web-development

[serene prawn]

You're creating new model, not getting one from db

[hard whale]

Maybe you can show an example of how to do it properly?

no idea why it's not on fastapi docs

[serene prawn]

stmt = select(Item).where(Item.id == some_id)
item = (await session.execute(stmt)).one()

session.delete(item)
await session.commit()

[hard whale]

thanks, i'll try that! and for update?

[serene prawn]

Hm, actually it's better to use scalar or just raw delete statement here, HTTP Delete should be idempotent

[hard whale]

i couldn't find method for it

[nimble berry]

not exactly, and we use asymmetric encryption on the client side with replay protection to encrypt the passwords with a public key before sending them to the service

[serene prawn]

stmt = delete(Item).where(Item.id == some_id)
await session.execute(stmt)
await session.commit()

[serene prawn]

Select your model from database, update it's properties and save it

[nimble berry]

@serene prawn so anything in-between would be blind to the password

[serene prawn]

Well, using encryption here sounds ok, but how exactly do you prevent replay attacks?

Also in case of mitm attack won't attacker be able to substitute his own public key?

[nimble berry]

i don't have all the details in my head right now
but if someone where to compromise the infrastructure as such that the would be able to control the content that is received by our clients when they visit the site no amount of encryption would help
at the very least one has to compromise different parts of the infrastructure to do something like that since the static content including the javascript and the public key of the SPA comes from a different places then the services that receive them, and then there is tls on top of all that
for the mobile apps it's already a part of the client application that is signed and distributed through apples app store and google play

[serene prawn]

I think in this case encrypting password at client side doesn't really make sense?

[nimble berry]

if i remember it right, the client gets nonce and some other data which is signed with the service's private key and checks the signature before it uses that data to encrypt the password and reply to the service

[serene prawn]

Even google sends password as plaintext to the server/backend, i don't think encryption at client side makes any sense here

You're trying to mitigate mitm attacks by encrypting the password, which you're still vulnerable to (at least it seems like to me)

[nimble berry]

depends, it's an added layer of security that helps in some situations but not others, if the client is fully compromised not much will help
it's not just username and password as we are using different forms of MFA as well and are trying to move away from passwords all together, but it can be hard to retire passwords with a big user base that can be quite ridged to change and not all customers are technical enough, so we do the best we can 🤷‍♂️

[nimble berry]

it depends on where the mitm would happen and in what way
mitb/c would be a problem that we can't really protect against
i don't think anyone can that has the larger public as a user base

[hard whale]

@serene prawn ```
device_delete = delete(device).where(device.id == location)
NameError: name 'delete' is not defined

I got this 😦

@app.delete("/device/del/{location}", response_model=DeviceRequest)
async def delete_device(location: str, db: Session = Depends(get_db)):
    device = Device()
    device_delete = delete(device).where(device.id == location)

    db.execute(device_delete)
    db.commit()

[serene prawn]

from sqlalchemy import delete

and device_delete = delete(Device).where(device.id == location)

Device, not device

[hard whale]

Does it matter if i mention device = Device()

?

[serene prawn]

You don't need to create new model here

remove that line

[hard whale]

ok

@app.delete("/device/del/{location}")
async def delete_device(location: str, db: Session = Depends(get_db)):
    device_delete = delete(Device).where(Device.id == location)

    db.execute(device_delete)
    db.commit()


    return {
        "code": "success",
        "message": "device deleted"
    }

This looks correct?

[serene prawn]

Yep

You can change url to /device/{location}

[hard whale]

Strange.. Doesn't delete anything

[serene prawn]

change Device.id to Device.location?

[hard whale]

I have GET for /device/{location}, won't they conflict?

[serene prawn]

Nope

They use different methods

[hard whale]

facepalm -_- , I need some rest i guess

[serene prawn]

Rest recommends using uri's to identify specific objecst, e.g.
/items/{itemId}

And you can use different verbs to get, update, patch and delete it

[hard whale]

Nice, thank you for all the info and help, now it works!

PUT/update left and i'm done for today

I wish I started this project with SQLModel)

[serene prawn]

I personally preferer sqlalchemy

[hard whale]

any benefits?

i just like the docs for fastapi and sqlmodel, very newbie friendly

good examples are the best way to learn

[serene prawn]

sqlmodel uses sqlalchemy under the hood, it just simplifies model creation

also sqlalchemy docs have a lot of examples for different use cases

[hard whale]

Yeah, now they don't seem so useless to me, they just need some background for understanding

BTW as long as I have all I need on my server part could you share some ideas regarding client? Server will return json message to client device, what would I need on client side to receive json after sending request to server API and and to drag variables from it?

I mean which modules/libs i should use

[serene prawn]

Depends on what your client is

@hard whale

[hard whale]

@serene prawn just a python script that will knock on the server to let him know he is online and his main goal is to receive some variables from server to do some calculations and return back to server after

[serene prawn]

use http client, like httpx or requests

[hard whale]

@serene prawn

import json,urllib.request
data = urllib.request.urlopen("url").read()
output = json.loads(data)
print (output)

somewhat like this?

[zealous sorrel]

Hello, I am using xhtml2pdf to convert my template into html but bootstrap doesn't seem to work, any ideas?

[golden hamlet]

yo bois, should i first do flask and then django?

i'm done with python basics so i wanna move on to web-dev

[uncut lark]

i think yes django is bit confusing start with flask

[rigid laurel]

I would advise doing whichever one best fits your needs. I don't think there's much value in learning flask purely for the sake of learning, there might be value in learning Django for the sake of it though

[golden hamlet]

thing is.. i don't have a clear goal like make this website or make that website you know

my goal is to get a backend junior job by september

[still laurel]

Hi, I'm currently learning Django and wanted to allow users to edit and delete their own comments but I'm unsure how to go about doing this, I've tried looking online for answers but yet to find anything that makes sense to me. Any help would be greatly appreciated

[rigid laurel]

Pursuing specific Frameworks doesn't seem like the most efficient way to get there. But there are more Django jobs than the are Flask ones, although still not very many

[serene prawn]

I'd say it doesn't really matter, i'd go for FastAPI, it's more modern than flask and you shouldn't have much problems migrating to flask later if you have to

Django is quite dated too, but all frameworks are similar, so you shouldn't have much problems with it either

Focus on learning about (Rest) API's and SQL

[mystic wyvern]

Hi guys i've been learning django for almost 2 years i've cover most of concepts that relate to web dev like, rest api and the front end use react Js
Idk when I can take my first job bcz everyday I found something new to learn

[rigid laurel]

My suggestion would be to just start applying ASAP rather than worrying too much about your skills - and make sure you're comfortable talking about what you do know. Unless you have a degree or relevant experience, the hardest part really will be getting in the door for an interview, so you probably want projects on Github or something to demonstrate your skills

[mystic wyvern]

Freelance dosen't refine my skills to be my first experience in work?

[ocean slate]

you have to use relationship tables for that

[rigid laurel]

I'm not 100% sure on what you're asking, but yeah, freelance would be relevant experience and would help you refine your skills

[ocean slate]

Hello, do u know flask?

[rigid laurel]

A little. Your best bet is to just ask the question here and hope someone with relevant experience comes across it

[ocean slate]

How can I make changes to flask app after deployment

if I want to add new tables and some features by using html css on site(flask app) which is hosted then how can I achieve this without loosing records of the existing database on the serve

[inland oak]

Learn Code Quality ;b Knowing Django is nothing without knowing Code Quality

[mystic wyvern]

wdym about code quality?

[mystic wyvern]

Yeh that what I meant

[inland oak]

The book more or less recommend what to read next

[lavish prism]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied mute to @inland oak until <t:1651171691:f> (9 minutes and 59 seconds) (reason: attachments rule: sent 8 attachments in 10s).

[white stratus]

!unmute 370435997974134785

[lavish prism]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: pardoned infraction mute for @inland oak.

[inland oak]

Sigh

[white stratus]

Might want to share less links per message lol

[inland oak]

dammit. whole message is gone

[inland oak]

could you copy paste me it to DM?

[white stratus]

Uno secundo

[inland oak]

0. learn what are the data structures and algorithms, book Groking Algorithms
1. Learn how to git https://learngitbranching.js.org/
2. Learn 5 best practices about Git, try for them to sink into your soul https://deepsource.io/blog/git-best-practices/
3. Learn how to unit test your code, book Unit testing Principles practices and patterns (+ start to use Pytest if you did not yet)
4. Learn advanced unit testing: TDD, with TDD kent beck book (recomended in the previous one)
5. Read what is clean code (the book named simiarily, author Robert Martin)
6. Start learning what is Design Patterns (and parallely somewhere what is inheritance and other OOP things, but technically the design patterns book should be good intro), with book Head First Design patterns ↵
7. Start reading Clean Architecture in your code (author Robert Martin)
   (---alternative path for starting from reading clean code and few others the book --- https://www.amazon.com/Code-Complete-Practical-Handbook-Construction/dp/0735619670 Code Complete by McConnel, instead of reading Robert Martin, some people say McConnel is more readable, shrugs)
8. (Bonus-Backend only) Reading about transforming monolith to microservices book by O'reilly
9. (Bonus-Backend only) Building microservices O'Reilly
10. (Bonus-Backend only) Reading about building event-driven microservices O'reilly
11. Advanced Code Quality bonus: Reading stuff about Domain Driven Design (original author Erik Evans)

P.S. and a bit of infrastructure tools at least bare minimum. How to use docker and docker compose to setup your local dev env

[mystic wyvern]

I already knew some of these like oop and algorithms and design patterns and more. But I will get into the other concepts

Thanks a lot💓

[ocean slate]

anyone

?

[mystic wyvern]

sorry for annoying you,my pc is not running docker bcz it's weak is there any alternative

[inland oak]

U a welcome.
P.P.S. I just remembered I missed some important book from the list. When starting some projects, there is necessarity in planning... how to plan developing projects, and transforming user/business requirements into what needs to be done from technical side?
System analysis and design book is the answer https://www.amazon.com/Systems-Analysis-Design-Alan-Dennis/dp/1119496500

[inland oak]

Sorry, no. Docker is already lightweight solution in virtualizations. How weak your PC is?

[mystic wyvern]

Mmm..., it's so weak that you can't run curl on it (:

[inland oak]

docker run -it alpine:latest /bin/bash

you can't use even curl there?

😱

[inland oak]

May be you have just a lot of garbage installed on PC?

perhaps reseting it to low consuming in resources Linux

something like Lubuntu/Xubuntu

[mystic wyvern]

Yeah I'm suffering a lot

[inland oak]

i think PC like is just not meant to be use. I mean common, ancient 2 core CPU machines from 12-15 years ago, are already enough to work with

[mystic wyvern]

Yep sometime I watch tutorial without practice

[mystic wyvern]

I think I can't use a lot of tool bcz of win7

[inland oak]

hey... you can't install docker to win7

[mystic wyvern]

Yes

I try a lot but in vain

[inland oak]

get used to Linux. If you are backend dev, you meant to use Linux

use as main dev machine 🤷‍♂️

life will be easier

[mystic wyvern]

But I want os that fit to my pc

[inland oak]

Linux can fit to anywhere windows fits and even more

[mystic wyvern]

Ok I will install it very soon

Thank you man u helped me a lot

[inland oak]

Excellent. Linux Linus Torvalds approves

[ionic raft]

I use WSL 2.0 in Windows 10. You need to turn CPU virtualization on in bios (if it's not already on). After that, you have a great Linux box inside Windows, including full on SSH authentication if you want

[mystic wyvern]

I'll give a shot

[mystic wyvern]

but wait a second ..

i use win 7 (:

[ionic raft]

In that case, I am very sorry 😦

Win7 is a deprecated OS. I appreciate that we are sometimes constrained in such choices, but remaining on Win7 opens you to a whole host of security issues and vulnerabilities. Windows is dodgy enough as it is. Being on an unsupported flavour, that's a whole different level of risk, for many, many reasons.

My suggestion, learn Linux, start with an accessible Linux Desktop distribution and move away from Win7 if $ is the constraint.

[hidden marten]

@mystic wyvern you can upgrade win7 to win10 for free via https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=799445 and then use WSL that way

[native tide]

If you have an app that hosted on localhost. how do you connect it to a server

[daring jay]

Are you looking to host your application on a cloud hosting service?

[native tide]

I have a Windows 10 VM with windows server 2012 installed

[daring jay]

Hmmm...not sure I understand what you are trying to do.

[native tide]

Attach the app to run on the server. I can run it on local but need to attach a url to it so other people can use it.

The app is like Django called otree. It generates urls for players to play games

[hidden marten]

@native tide re #help-coconut message, the error is about rows in the join table, not in the workspace table

[digital osprey]

How to resolve this error in django

[dusk totem]

!traceback

[lavish prism]

Please provide the full traceback for your exception in order to help us identify your issue.
While the last line of the error message tells us what kind of error you got,
the full traceback will tell us which line, and other critical information to solve your problem.
Please avoid screenshots so we can copy and paste parts of the message.

A full traceback could look like:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "my_file.py", line 5, in <module>
    add_three("6")
  File "my_file.py", line 2, in add_three
    a = num + 3
TypeError: can only concatenate str (not "int") to str

If the traceback is long, use our pastebin.

[dusk totem]

Since it's Django, please use a pastebin

!paste

[lavish prism]

Pasting large amounts of code

If your code is too long to fit in a codeblock in discord, you can paste your code here:
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/

After pasting your code, save it by clicking the floppy disk icon in the top right, or by typing ctrl + S. After doing that, the URL should change. Copy the URL and post it here so others can see it.

[digital osprey]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/elemitaviy

how to resolve this error please help me

[serene prawn]

install debug toolbar?

[full badger]

hey do you guys know how to link a python file to html

like run a .py file on html

[wooden ruin]

you can't, this also presents lots of security vulnerabilities

[dusk thorn]

Can Anyone help me with this Javascript Question, The question already print out an output

function main() { 
    var year = parseInt(prompt(), 10); 
    var month = parseInt(prompt(), 10); 
    var day = parseInt(prompt(), 10);

console.log(getWeekDay(year, month, day));
} 
function getWeekDay(year, month, day) { 
    var names = ["Sunday", "Monday", "Tuesday", "Wednesday", "Thursday", "Friday", "Saturday"]; 
    var d = new Date(year, month, day); 
    console.log(d)
    //Function start
}
main()

[dusk thorn]

I need to find the Dateday from the question

The output is already working just need to find the date from output

[serene prawn]

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Date/getDay

[serene matrix]

Hello I need some django help please.

My logout works well except when used from a model based view.

For instance when you're in someone's profile, it says it can't find the url because it checks for:

localhost/app/<primarykey>/logout

Instead of

localhost/app/logout

Def logout(request):
logout(request)
app.views.logout(request)

All this code is from my head but it's pretty accurate. Please suggest something you think might be wrong

[serene matrix]

This is open in #help-kiwi please.

[manic frost]

Can someone share their experience in adding warnings to HTTP responses? For example, to warn about deprecations or nearing rate limits. I've seen that there's a deprecated 'Warning' header, but it seems like something unrelated

I guess the main issue is how do you make people consider these warnings.

Send a "ping" warning and require an acknowledgement on it?

Or some other header like X-Warnings-Acknowledged: 3

[manic garnet]

Anyone who likes PHP here?

[waxen tulip]

Hi, Im trying to change the background color of a section by clicking a button (“button 1”), then when I click another button (“button 2”) , it turns the same background section a different color. I’m attempting to use the sec2.classList.add(“color”) for one button , then for the other button I used sec1.classList.toggle(“other color”). The two buttons are supposed to toggle the two colors of the section back and forth, but I’m not entirely sure how the toggle method works.

[normal nacelle]

What languages does a full stack web dev use?

[rigid laurel]

JavaScript/TypeScript for the front end is by far the most common, JS/TS are also both fairly common on the backend, but pretty much any language can be used for backend web dev, so: Golang, Python, Java/other-JVM-langs, C# etc are all very common

but if you're looking for one language that makes up the entire stack, then your only realistic option is JavaScript

[frank shoal]

The only reason I'd use JS/TS on the backend is for SSR, but that's technically frontend.

[rigid laurel]

JS is incredibly common for Rest APIs, and pretty nice to use for it

[serene matrix]

I guess just start and you'll end up with a "languages". You don't choose a language, the language chooses you.
If you're working on something eventually you'll meet a language that'll make your heart race and your fingers jitter. And then you'll end up settling down with the language after a number of daylight dates and sleepless nights with it. You have your frustrations no doubt and sometimes it'll feel like the language is trying to ruin your sanity, you might even threaten to walk away to leave the language for its cousin but you won't because this language is really the one. Eventually after all the stress, the language will finally come around and you'll see that all the fuss was just a simple misunderstanding. And you'll be in love once more.
Trust me... I know.

I just had to🙈

[normal nacelle]

❤️ 😁

[sour tulip]

Hi guys! What I should learn fastAPI or Django?

Btw I have 0 knowledge about APIs, should I learn it before web development?

[native tide]

Are there any particular projects you want to work on, or jobs you want to apply to, etc? That would affect what you should learn

They are two different tools, each with things they are better suited for, so there isn't a right answer here

[sour tulip]

I see, there are not projects I want to work on tbh
I just want to learn more because every job request web development

Knowing only python is not enough to get a job

[native tide]

What you learn will depend on what the job wants. In general, fastapi is a newer and popular technology, so some employers may want you to know that. Others might want you to know stable technologies, or technologies they are already using such as django. Some employers will care about neither and want something completely different (javascript, java, c-sharp, ...)

Django is also larger in general than fastapi, but that may not be relevant to you.

[devout sparrow]

Hi

ANyone can help with adjusting margin of html

I want to do smth like dis

[frank shoal]

looks like a table

[devout sparrow]

This is what I have now

I am not sure how to adjust it

I tried adjusting margin

https://pastebin.com/wDrueK43

This is what I have

[sour tulip]

Hmm I'm not sure what job I want but I'm sure web development is every time more important and requested.
I think I should start with something to have a little of knowledge of web development, what do you recommend me to start off with?
I didn't know fastAPI until I saw it here but I was interested in Django

[devout sparrow]

@frank shoal

[frank shoal]

bootstrap should be doing it all for you.

[devout sparrow]

Can u help

adjust the margin

[frank shoal]

Try commenting out all your table css. Maybe use the bootstrap defaults

[devout sparrow]

whr

can u help

[frank shoal]

oh wait, this isn't about the table. It's about the table's margin.

[devout sparrow]

its about the

table floating in the middle

I want it to not touch the edge

[frank shoal]

wrap the table in a <div class="container">

[devout sparrow]

I want it to have space between the

whr

OHHH

IT WORKS

[frank shoal]

Why are you using bootstrap 3?

https://getbootstrap.com/docs/5.0/layout/containers/

[devout sparrow]

Notsure

I copied the template

Omgg

u r life saviour

@frank shoal ❤️

[native tide]

pycharm community is good?

[frank shoal]

yes

but no javascript support.

pycharm professional includes javascript

[daring jay]

Ah…got it. Not sure how to do it for that use case, off the top of my head

[open sierra]

so i am trying to scrape 3 urls, different pages of different websites although all have the same contents. however, this only scrapes the first page. i cannot share the 3 urls but know that the 3 urls are all correct

URL = ["url 1", "url 2", "url 3"]
gpu = input("Enter desired GPU ")
maxPrice = input("Enter max price ")

for url in range(0,2):    
    page = requests.get(URL[url])
    soup = BeautifulSoup(page.content, "html.parser")
    results = soup.find(class_="list-wrap")
    container = soup.find_all("div", class_="item-container")

    print()
#Test 3080 for 1000

    for containerElement in container:
        brandingElement = containerElement.find("div", class_="item-branding")
        titleElement = containerElement.find("a", class_="item-title")
        title = str(titleElement.contents)
        priceElement = containerElement.find("li", class_="price-current")
        price = str(priceElement.text)
        ratingElement = containerElement.find("i", class_="rating")
        if gpu in title and price <= maxPrice:
            for char in title:
                title = title.replace("[", "")
                title = title.replace("]","")
                title = title.replace("'", "")
            for char in price:
                price = price.replace("\xa0","")
                price = price.replace("–", "")   
            print(title.split("GDDR")[0])
            print(price.split("(")[0])
            if ratingElement != None:
                rating = brandingElement.find("i", {"class":"rating"})["aria-label"]
                print(rating.capitalize())
            else:
                print("No rating")
            print()         

i fixed it by increasing the size in range

[carmine cipher]

Hey guys , I am a full stack web developer , I want to switch to mobile app with java and kotlin . Assume I am a hardworking person then how long that can take me to learn it and make a app on my own ?

[native tide]

Yes understood.
But what I'm wondering is: why does it only happen in the context of tests ?
It wouldn't make sense to just call clear on all relationships when I'm testing.
Also, I tried to clear these relationships from the django admin site, and when I track them in the db, the relations get deleted correctly

I even tried to track the test db, but I don't even see the records 😦

[hidden marten]

🤷‍♂️

does sqlite have nested transactions or something?

[native tide]

I don't know.
But I tried switching to a Postgres db, and it's the same thing lol

I just don't get it ahahahahahah

Thanks for trying !

[hidden marten]

one option could be to turn on debug logging for all sql statements and reason from there @native tide

[native tide]

I'll try that rn

I found something interesting @hidden marten, care to know ?

[hidden marten]

sure?

[ionic raft]

PyCharm Community is good. It'll get you core IDE functionality. However, I switched to Pro because I like the expanded support. I've tried VSCode, Sublime and PyCharm, and when it comes to Python I've yet to see anything better than PyCharm. In particular, the suggestions it makes for ORM queries in particular has taught me a lot and saved me much time.

[tiny ermine]

hi guys, this is the functionality i'm trying to achieve,

<form>
                <button type="submit" class="btn btn-primary btn-lg" onclick="dataButtonClick()">Get Data</button>
            </form>

            <div class="card">
                <div class="card-body">
                    <p id="data field"></p>
                </div>
            </div>


            <script>
                function dataButtonClick() {
                    var data = JSON.parse('{{ get_data([1, 34, 12, 76, 18, 22])|tojson }}');
                    var p = document.getElementById("data field");
                    p.textContent = "data"
                }
            </script>

however, when i test this on my flask server, it appears in the thing for 1 second, then it disappears

[hidden marten]

wait dataButtonClick is not sending a request to flask. flask templated the data into the html in the initial page load

[tiny ermine]

huh

[hidden marten]

also are spaces even allowed in ids? I think you want data-field instead @tiny ermine

[tiny ermine]

okay

im just very confused as to how to do this

[tiny ermine]

because this is my website

I have a generator that returns a dictionary of data

every time the user clicks the button

I want the next value to be in that card below the btuton

can you help me please

i have been stuck on this for a long time and I can't understand what to do

even after searching

[hidden marten]

you mean the generator yields a dict?

can you show the gen?

[tiny ermine]

def bubble(array: list) -> dict:
    index_length = len(array) - 1
    swap_counter = -1
    while swap_counter != 0:
        swap_counter = 0
        for i in range(index_length):
            yield currentframe().f_locals
            if array[i] > array[i+1]:
                array[i], array[i+1] = array[i+1], array[i]
                swap_counter += 1
        index_length -= 1

[hidden marten]

are you sure you don't just want ```js
const data = JSON.parse('{{ get_data(...)|tojson }}');
let index = 0;
const p = document.querySelector('#data-field');
p,textContent = data[i];
function dataButtonClick() {
i++;
p.textContent = data[i];
}

[tiny ermine]

it doesn't work

[hidden marten]

you need to elaborate. "doesn't work" doesn't tell us anything

[tiny ermine]

it don't show up on the website

[hidden marten]

ok... is there an error in the devtools console?? what happens instead?

[tiny ermine]

it only shows get requests

[hidden marten]

not the terminal running flask. the browser's devtools console

[tiny ermine]

still nothing

[shell dragon]

Hello

Anyone familiar with django?

[tiny ermine]

sent

[fossil kayak]

Sup guys anyone know selenium….

Uhh if u do pls dm me

I need help clicking a button….

Sounds simple but it’s not I’ll explain in dms

Uhh so if anyone knows selenium pls pls pls dm me and help me out

Thanks

[river glen]

Can someone help me: I want to be able to detect when a web browser is done loading a tab, opened by the webbrowser module.

I don't own the website I just open it through python. (just p.s.)

[native tide]

yes i'm 'familiar' to some extent

[native tide]

💀 no one gonna DM u uk.. just drop your question already.. or open a help channel

[fossil kayak]

I did….servers kinda slow

[native tide]

uhh

can't help then lmao. i'm myself not familiar with selenium at this point

[river glen]

r u talking to me?

[native tide]

i said 'selenium' it's related to IamNotDrunk guy above

[river glen]

oh

when i was researching my issue I saw a lot of selenium

[native tide]

lmao

so your main issue is just to find out if page has been loaded?

[river glen]

yes

more specifically to wait until then but thats simple enough

[native tide]

🤔 i see

nvm even i'm seeing a lot of selenium shit on google related to this

[river glen]

ikr

[native tide]

uh yeah

[river glen]

I dont understand it either

any suggestions?

@native tide ^?

[native tide]

uhh idk honestly

[river glen]

k

[native tide]

looks like you need to get grip of selenium in this case

[river glen]

ok

[native tide]

other than this. i've no idea

[river glen]

k

thx

[viral pumice]

Hii, I have some questions regarding discord oauth2 that i am not sure i understand it right, and i am not sure where to ask so i asked here

https://discord.com/developers/docs/topics/oauth2#authorization-code-grant-refresh-token-exchange-example
in this function, what should i pass?

[cold wagon]

hey guys i need help w/django #help-cherries

[ionic moss]

Hi guys İ am trying to deploy a django app with, when i type "git push heroku master"on cmd on windows 10, it gives me this error. anyone can help

[mental summit]

I’m not sure but I think it might be because the branch is now called main not master

[ionic moss]

i have tried "git push heroku main", i have tried to dowload "psycogp2" again.

but it didnt work

thanks anyway

[trail axle]

what’re backends for?

is it solely for databases?

[dusk portal]

git push --force

@ionic moss

def index(request):
    data={
        'name':'Aryan',
        'age':18
    }
    return JsonResponse(data)```

@api_view(['GET'])
def index(request):
    data={
        'name':'Aryan',
        'age':18
    }
    return Response(data)```

class Index(APIView):
    def get(self,request,*args,**kwargs):
        data={
        'name':'Aryan',
        'age':18
        }
        return Response(data)```

class Index(generics.ListAPIView):
    def get(self,request,*args,**kwargs):
        data={
        'name':'Aryan',
        'age':18
        }
        return Response(data)```

4 ways

of doing

same thing

wtf should i do

(context drf)

[dusk portal]

just yt it

u'll be more clear

[dusk portal]

ignore the 1st method cuz it isn't part of drf

but what about these three

which method is better

n which method should i use

for whichcase whichone is better

[trail axle]

well i find people doing stuff like a todo app in just backend
and then i looked at fastapi (which is backend?) and it’s very different

[dusk portal]

the server side stuff

more likely

related to database

but not actually only the db

it's a theory

just see
treehouse video on yt of backend

n u will get

better understanding

[trail axle]

no i just never use databases so that's a good enough answer

[jaunty depot]

hey guys
I'm trying to query my database for some records and add their content to a dictionary

def get_cat(cat):
    products = Product.query.filter_by(category=cat).all()
    prod_list = []
    listofdict = []
    product = {}

    for prod in products:
        product['name'] = prod.name
        product['id'] = prod.id
        listofdict.append(product)
        prod_list.append(prod.name)

    print("list of dict:", listofdict)
    print("prod list:", prod_list)
    
    return jsonify(prod_list)

however this code returns such output:
list of dict: [{'name': 'banan', 'id': 7}, {'name': 'banan', 'id': 7}, {'name': 'banan', 'id': 7}, {'name': 'banan', 'id': 7}] prod list: ['daktyl', 'jabłko', 'konfitura jagodowa', 'banan']

I can't see what I'm doing wrong - I don't want my dictionary to have only copies of the last element of the list - I wanted to have a list of dictionaries for each element

when I add print(product) inside of loop then it prints out each dictionary correctly
but why they are not appending to the list but only the last gets appended four times?

[unborn flame]

Create a new dict in each loop. The way it is now, you are creating a single dict, creating multiple references to it in the list and just keep overwriting its contents.

[jaunty depot]

damn it worked ❤️
thank you so much

ahh now I understand it
thank you also for explanation

[covert yew]

class User(db.Model, UserMixin):
    id = db.Column(db.Integer, primary_key=True)
    email = db.Column(db.String(150), unique=True)
    username = db.Column(db.String(150), unique=True)
    password = db.Column(db.String(150))
    first_name = db.Column(db.String(150))
    last_name = db.Column(db.String(150), nullable=True)
    date_joined = db.Column(db.DateTime(timezone=True), default=func.now())
    
    following = db.relationship('Follower', backref='user', passive_deletes=True)
    followers = db.relationship('Follower', backref='user', passive_deletes=True)
    
    
class Follower(db.Model):
    id = db.Column(db.Integer, primary_key=True)
    author = db.Column(db.Integer, db.ForeignKey('user.id', ondelete="CASCADE"), nullable=False)
    user = db.Column(db.Integer, db.ForeignKey('user.id', ondelete="CASCADE"), nullable=False)

how can I make a relationship to the same table twice and should I create a table for that or user something else?

[agile pier]

hii guys, does anyone know how to get the user's leetcode stats using api?

[plucky wadi]

How i do solve Permission denied when running django makemigrations command.(migrate command works tho )

[serene prawn]

Create custom join condition. for following you'd join on user.id == follower.user, for followers you'd join on follower.author ( i guess )

https://docs.sqlalchemy.org/en/14/orm/join_conditions.html

[lavish prism]

Rules

9. Do not offer or ask for paid work of any kind.

[calm plume]

@barren dust As was said, please don't advertise yourself here.

[thorn igloo]

why do you need two relationships for 1 table if i may ask?

[dry obsidian]

So in my public folder I have all these favicons to support most of the platforms. However they take up a lot of space (they have a size of 40 kb combined).

When I visit my website on my computer will all the favicons get downloaded?

So will it affect my website response time or is it the same thing as having only a favicon.ico

[covert yew]

I want to create a follow model for following users and I want to have follower_id and user_id

[thorn igloo]

what is author there?

[thorn igloo]

the person with a follower

?

[covert yew]

follower is the person that follows

and the user_id is the ones he follows

[thorn igloo]

ahh, i see

[covert yew]

any other way to do this?

like any better way

[thorn igloo]

im thinking about that

[covert yew]

should it even be a model in the database or its just not efficient doing that?

[thorn igloo]

it makes sense to model it

but here's my idea

why not give a user a follower id for example

and basically use that to track who they follow if that makes sense

[covert yew]

I see

[thorn igloo]

like in your follower table, you'd have

the user id foreign relationship

[covert yew]

like generate another id like the normal one just for following?

[thorn igloo]

when someone follows you just use the follower id

let me reword that

user id for foreign relationship
follower_id to see follower

[covert yew]

id = db.Column(db.Integer, primary_key=True)
follower_id = db.Column(db.Integer, unique=True, autoincrement=True)

[thorn igloo]

yea, i guess

doesnt need to be a primary key tho

but it works i guess

[covert yew]

why not?

ohh

[thorn igloo]

you already have id as primary

[covert yew]

fixed

[thorn igloo]

yea, nice

[covert yew]

how do I make it auto generate it?

like the primary key?

[thorn igloo]

auto increment?

let me google how to do that in sqlalchemy

[covert yew]

yes

btw do you have any tool to see/edit databases?

[thorn igloo]

just use autoincrement=True in the field

[covert yew]

alright ty <3

[thorn igloo]

yeah, i use dbeaver

very nice UI

[covert yew]

1 second ill check that out

alright thank you

[hard whale]

Ayo guys, is peewee still working learning or it's old and replaced by newer more flexible orm?

[worn crystal]

is Smtplib a good way to send verification emails to users?
I have a flask app that I want to send verification emails to users when they sign up and so I was curious to know if this is a "good" way of doing it

[grizzled swan]

Yeah i guess so

[fickle fox]

Hey guys, how would you save image file in db with flask

[pallid hill]

Does anyone know how to disable Javascript and WebRTC in PyQtWebEngine? I want to have a privacy centered Web Browser that I made so that's why I want to know this.

[obtuse robin]

if the image is something online, you can save the url as something in the db

im not sure how if you mean something downloaded

[steady turret]

x3 is it possible to write in the browser console with quart/flask ?

would be fun

[native tide]

I can't find a damn download for the tor client and I can't use my linux machine

[gusty marsh]

@crisp hound bro i m back and this time u cant bl

[native tide]

why can't I find it lmao

[viral pumice]

hiii, i have a question about django
so i have a link that will redirect the user to this
http://localhost:port/reviews/edit/<user_ID>/<review_ID>
from http://localhost:port/reviews
inside the html file

 <div class="card-header">
                      <ul class="nav nav-tabs card-header-tabs">

                            <li class="nav-item">
                                <a class="nav-link" href="{{current_path}}edit/{{user.id}}/{{review.id}}">Edit</a>
                            </li>
                            <li class="nav-item">
                                <a class="nav-link " href="{{current_path}}delete/{{user.id}}/{{review.id}}">Delete</a>
                            </li>
                      </ul>
                  </div>```
The issue is that i can't make the same thing as `current_path` inside the `urlpatterns`
```py
urlpatterns = [
    path("", views.home),
    path('admin/', admin.site.urls),
    path("home/", views.home),
    
    path("/edit/<int:user_id>/<int:review_id>", views.edit_review, name="edit_review"),
    path("/delete/<int:user_id>/<int:review_id>", views.delete_review, name="delete_review"),
]

is there a way to make it inherit from the current path?

[native tide]

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[craggy flax]

Guys can anyone give code for image encryption using convolutional neural networks?

[covert yew]

Its not generating anything, I tried googling it but I found nothing

[sonic sky]

https://pyscript.net/

https://pyscript.net/examples/simple_clock.html

<!DOCTYPE html>
<html lang="en">
<head>
<meta charset="utf-8" />
<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width,initial-scale=1" />
<title>PyScript Hello World</title>
<link rel="icon" type="image/png" href="favicon.png" />
<link rel="stylesheet" href="../build/pyscript.css" />
<script defer src="../build/pyscript.js"></script>
</head>
<body>
Hello world! <br>
This is the current date and time, as computed by Python:
<py-script>
from datetime import datetime
now = datetime.now()
now.strftime("%m/%d/%Y, %H:%M:%S")
</py-script>
</body>
</html>

Now this is cool

[random spindle]

django or flask

whats better

for beginner

[abstract birch]

I'd like to know that too

[ruby sorrel]

easier to teach django according to dr charles severance. but both are good.

[abstract birch]

I've a DB on mongo cloud already working with some other application, but I want to make web version of that application, which would be better ?

[ruby sorrel]

can't say which is technically better as far as how low level implementations of built in classes and their methods but i think flask is quicker to get up an running from scratch.

[agile pier]

query = """
      { 
        matchedUser(username: "adityag28") {
          username
          submitStats: submitStatsGlobal {
          acSubmissionNum {
          difficulty
          count
          submissions
          }
        }
      }
    }
    """

variables = {'username': 'sanskarchandra26'}

url = 'https://leetcode.com/graphql/'
r = requests.post(url, json={'query': query, 'variables': variables})
print(r.status_code)
print(r.text)

how do I use the variable username in the query?

[ruby sorrel]

is your query variable supposed to be json? coz it looks like a function to me

[agile pier]

this is the graphql api format
i m also very new to this

[ruby sorrel]

ive never heard of graphql but there must be some sort of way to key inside it.
like how you would access, purple (for example) in this this dictionary

my_dict = {
    "fruits": {
        "apples": "red",
        "grapes": "purple",
        },
    "name": "adityag",
    }

by doing

print(my_dict["fruits"]["grapes"])

or are you trying to do it from string in the query variable? coz i would just use .split() or regular expressions

[native tide]

http://xijcct7hu2gu6pkozsaf6ugytlz2bcl3bups3rxaozylj5gkz3s3a6ad.onion/
Check out my first onion site

[abstract birch]

anyone that knows flask can help me to understand how to build my project?
I want to build some kind of interactive database from mongodb, that will allow to filter stuff and the ability to export

[native tide]

You mean sudo apt install tor doesn't work?

[dusk portal]

Heyyy

[native tide]

under source code

the site is there

check it out

no

why not

why not ninja

[fickle fox]

anyone knows how to fix this bug??

<form action='{{url_for("create_com")}}' >
<input type="text" name="comment" id="content">
<input type="submit" name="submit" value="Post">


</form>


@app.route("/create/comment/<int:id>", methods=["GET", "POST"])
def create_com(id):
    if request.method=="POST":
        comment=request.form("coment")
        author=current_user.fname
        makecomment=Comments(ccontent=comment, cauthor=author, blogid=id)
        db.session.add(makecomment)
        db.session.commit()
        return redirect(url_for("open", id=id))
    else:
        comments = Comments.query.filter_by(blogid=id).all()
        return render_template("post.html", comments=comments)

werkzeug.routing.BuildError: Could not build url for endpoint 'create_com'. Did you forget to specify values ['id']?

aaah nvm fixed it

[hollow dune]

could anyone suggest an app for making html pages like in VS or Rider, where you just drag and drop parts and arrange them and its simple, cuz i dont want to have to write everything by hand.

[rich warren]

that sounds like you need some database library like MongoAlchemy, pymongo, etc..

[abstract birch]

do you know some kind of example of this thing? Like how to implement it on web application with flask or django?

[rich warren]

no clue, ask to #databases and once you know how works you can try to implement it in flask

[keen inlet]

import functools

user = {"username":"jose", "access_level":"admin"}

def make_secure(func):
  @functools.wraps(func)
  def secure_function(*args, **kwargs):
    if user["access_level"] == "admin":
      return func(*args, **kwargs)
    else:
      return f"no admin premmission for {user['username']}."

    return secure_function

@make_secure
def get_password(panel):
  if panel == "admin":
    return "1234"
  elif panel == "billing":
    return "seper secure password"


print(get_password("billing"))

 line 23, in <module>
    print(get_password("billing"))
TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not callable

Hi someone can help me to figure out why the error occurs 🙏

[autumn creek]

return secure_function should be indented to the same level as the make_secure body. you have it indented one level too far.
note that that error may be easier to spot with 4-space indents instead of 2

[random spindle]

ok

javascript or python for web dev

[dense cedar]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[dense cedar]

You can choose both

[random spindle]

but dont they do the same thing?

back end web dev

[dense cedar]

Yes. It's just about writing a code

You know Django?

I won't prefer anything nor I am going to compare. But Django would be a great choice

[random spindle]

nah i dont know django

i know pure/default JS

i know python

thats it

i dont know any other type of JS like node

just the default js

[dense cedar]

Okay

[random spindle]

JS is a beautiful language

but i know python more than JS so maybe django is better choice

[frosty aurora]

I am returning to confess that sesssion management isn't easy, but I'd also like to add that it's mostly because I didn't realize how many possible states in the flow existed

[ember fossil]

anyone know how to stop a uvicorn (fastapi) server cleanly in code?

[dense cedar]

Now node is awesome but Django is much easy

In Django, You generate a boilerplate and start writing code

Wheras in node you have to start from scratch. Or you can use express to serve webpages

[dense cedar]

Wheras in node you have to start from scratch. Or you can use express to serve webpages

[stone sandal]

What’s a boilerplate

[native tide]

Yeah, came here to talk about this

as a noob, I was scared of mixing JS with python so I focused on python alone.

[frosty aurora]

Would be much more excited about an all-Python stack if it didn't mean adding 5 seconds of latency on page load

[frosty aurora]

Is there anything wrong with sys.exit()

!doc sys.exit

[lavish prism]

sys.exit

sys.exit([arg])```
Raise a [`SystemExit`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/exceptions.html#SystemExit "SystemExit") exception, signaling an intention to exit the interpreter.

[native tide]

anything else that you notice that's bad? I thought of learning flask with brython.

[frosty aurora]

If you're learning to learn, go for it! This tech stack is probably only going to get better over time, but I'd be surprised if employers are gonna be asking for Python frontend any time soon.

I haven't audited it thoroughly, but like any other new ambitious project, be ready to deal with "rough edges" like missing documentation

[native tide]

yeah, guess I have to stop nitpicking and try it. better than learning JS from scratch

[frosty aurora]

It'll be much less friction on the syntax, but if you already don't know some of the "weirdness" behind how a browser works then I'd spend a little extra time seeing how they do stuff that's usually a bit of a headache to do from inside WASM, e.g. messing with the DOM API

[native tide]

looking forward to the day we can run pygame on browser

[agile pier]

how do I return image/svg+xml in django?

[golden hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?app=desktop&list=PLQnljOFTspQUNnO4p00ua_C5mKTfldiYT

[gleaming heron]

Hey guys

I waw learn basic of python now i wanna learn back end so which is the best? I will learn python or shift on php,laravel?

Which language is best for back end and easy too

[serene prawn]

Python is fine for backend, look whatever is more widely used in your area/country

And if you want to learn php

[gleaming heron]

No I anna learn python if php will easy than python so I can switch 😁

I wanna learn easy language 😶

[dusty mesa]

Has anyone completed the web Development course by johns Hopkins University on coursera?
I'm Looking to get into web dev and found this course as a starting point

[dusk portal]

which type of view is more preferable while using django rest framework

it has alot of options

function based views

class based views

n generic class based views

tbh i'm using function based views

in my django web application

but some people told me on rest framework class based views r better

so what should i do

any suggestion pls

def index(request):
    data={
        'name':'Aryan',
        'age':18
    }
    return JsonResponse(data)```

@api_view(['GET'])
def index(request):
    data={
        'name':'Aryan',
        'age':18
    }
    return Response(data)```

class Index(APIView):
    def get(self,request,*args,**kwargs):
        data={
        'name':'Aryan',
        'age':18
        }
        return Response(data)```

class Index(generics.ListAPIView):
    def get(self,request,*args,**kwargs):
        data={
        'name':'Aryan',
        'age':18
        }
        return Response(data)```

class Index(generics.ListAPIView):
    queryset=BlogPost.objects.all()
    serializer_class=BlogPostSerializer

class Index(APIView):
    def get(self, request, *args, **kwargs):
        qs = BlogPost.objects.all()
        serializer = BlogPostSerializer(qs, many=True)
        return Response(serializer.data)```

same output

what should a person use

n does it matter

[latent cosmos]

hey, I am trying to set a local JS file:

<script src="https://static.cdn-website.com/SOME_JS.min.js"></script>

so instead this https I am giving my path with that js with the same content as that from domain, and it does not work, all animation on the website stops... Any idea how is it possible, if the local content is the same as that on domain?! Local path is correct too!

(please ping me when answering, appreciate help)

[serene prawn]

Generic views are nice to use if you need to add pagination, etc quickly, i'd go for that in some cases

APIViews are for something more complex

Didn't really use function based views though

[gusty sky]

Hello guys, I have problem with CORS when trying to reach backend with frontend. I am using Vuejs (+ router and axios) and Fastapi (+uvicorn, pymongo). I have tried to allow it in axios via axios.defaults.headers.common['Access-Control-Allow-Origin'] = '*'; but it does not work. I have tried to allow it at the backend level as well, but it still does not work.

[dusk portal]

ohh
don't u use function based views also while working with pure django (not drf)

[serene prawn]

I don't work with pure django 🙂

[gusty sky]

Cross-Origin Request Blocked: The Same Origin Policy disallows reading the remote resource at http://127.0.0.1:8000/api/host/get_data. (Reason: CORS request did not succeed). Status code: (null).

[serene prawn]

I wish i never worked with django or drf

[gusty sky]

Now i am happy that I use fastAPI

[dusk portal]

why so

why

so what u guys use

[serene prawn]

[dusk portal]

ohh

u also use fastapi?

ohh it's getting popular i see

[gusty sky]

its the fastest.

[dusk portal]

when i was a flask dev everybody was saying learn django

[serene prawn]

FastAPI > Flask

[dusk portal]

but people say
"wtf u're making web app in py == slow"

[dusk portal]

u will get gigs

now when i'm good at django

ppl are saying learn fastapi

[gusty sky]

Can any1 help me plz?

[dusk portal]

n today itself i got a call from a hr

he said he want me to work on flask

i mean wtffff man

[serene prawn]

You should add cors on fastapi side

[dusk portal]

why am i so unlucky

[serene prawn]

FastAPI and flask are quite similar

But fastapi is just better 🙂

[dusk portal]

ohh

[gusty sky]

origins = [
    "http://localhost:8081/",
    "http://192.168.0.105:8081/"
]

app.add_middleware(
    CORSMiddleware,
    allow_origins=origins,
    allow_credentials=True,
    allow_methods=["*"],
    allow_headers=["*"],
)

[dusk portal]

but ig

companies dont use

[serene prawn]

127.0.0.1 != localhost

[dusk portal]

fastapi

[serene prawn]

We use it 😦

[gusty sky]

Daaamn son. u got me, thanks

[dusk portal]

ohh

[serene prawn]

actually a lot of companies use fastapi

[dusk portal]

ohh

so

it's worth it

to learn fastapi

i was thinking to learn js n then MERN

[serene prawn]

Again, it's similar to flask but has more features overall

[dusk portal]

but i was quite sad cuz

my python basics r better

it's fast then js too? @serene prawn

[serene prawn]

I'd recommend learning python to comfortable level first, then picking up different languages shouldn't be that hard

iirc js is faster, but that's usually not the main concern

[gusty sky]

Uncaught (in promise) 
Object { message: "Network Error", name: "AxiosError", code: "ERR_NETWORK", config: {…}, request: XMLHttpRequest, response: XMLHttpRequest, stack: "" }```

[rigid laurel]

If you do (or plan to do) a lot of web development, I'd recommend getting familiar with how CORS actually works. The key thing is that before you make a cross-site request, the browser will send out another OPTIONS http request to see whether or not the server supports CORS, and if the server doesn't respond it won't work.

[dusk portal]

it isn't hard but i don't like it cuz

i worked so hard

learning frameworks

[serene prawn]

port also matters

[dusk portal]

like django

flask

etc.

[serene prawn]

There's no place like http://127.0.0.1:8000

[dusk portal]

?

[serene prawn]

iirc js is faster

[gusty sky]

if __name__ == "__main__":
    uvicorn.run('web:app',
                host="127.0.0.1",
                port=8000,  # default port is 8000
                reload=True)

[serene prawn]

That's not a good metric to choose a language, otherwise everyone would be writing machine code

[dusk portal]

Initial release date: 5 December 2018

damnnn

new

[gusty sky]

but in backend i shoud allow 8081 which is frontend, shouldnt I?

[dusk portal]

actually why not
i'm surely gonna

learn it

[serene prawn]

Hm 🤔 I'm not actually sure, i think so

[gusty sky]

i tried both f.e. and b.e. ports, still nothing 😄

[serene prawn]

Does it work if you allow all origins?

Also you can check Host header on your request

[gusty sky]

well, yes

[serene prawn]

Try checking host header

If your frontend is on http://localhost:8081 then it should work 🤔

ah

trailing slash?

[gusty sky]

yup now it works.

origins = [
    "http://localhost:8081",
    "http://127.0.0.1:8081"
]

removed the slashes at the end

😄

[serene prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-king-arthur-black-knight-ive-had-worse-bad-situation-gif-6118886

[gusty sky]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-ok-see-what-i-did-there-jim-carrey-thumbs-up-gif-15801589

[hazy night]

Im not quite familiar with this tag.. I know its pulled from a javascript function for it to pop up but not sure how i can select it since its an alert that doesnt last long

does anyone know a bit about it? im using selenium at the moment and am trying to automate a process where when this pops up it would wait a couple seconds before beginning my loop again

nevermind i froze DOM to pull the javascript in time

[agile pier]

does anyone know how does github readme markdown work?

https://github-readme-stats.vercel.app/api?username=adityagoel28&show_icons=true&theme=tokyonight
Like when adding this to the readme, it shows the stat
ig it works when the return type is svg

if anyone know pls help

[native tide]

so i have a html page ive already created and css, how can i use django to grab the values of the form? without using widgets etc in views.py

[hollow dragon]

been learning Flask for a couple of weeks now and trying to tweak this to-do-list with new features. i was able to add "timestamp" as a new class, migrate it to the db and using Flask-Moment to show it on the app

i know its not super interesting but coming from only frontend, working with Flask is so interesting

[gusty lynx]

wow thats great, looks neat in my opinion
i just straight up went for django when i wanted to learn web dev, didn't care about flask
but i think django would be kind of heavy for simple projects.
flask wouldn't be practical for large scale applications, but for simple projects like these, i think its pretty good

[hollow dragon]

thank you mate! yeah, I'm going to learn django down the road, I'm just focusing on Flask at the moment because I've got an internship opportunity and the company works in Flask. The internship starts in a couple of months so I'm trying to learn as much as possible beforehand. 🙂

[hazy night]

Hi, im looking for help with selenium.. Below is my current code(snppet) and what I wish to do is that if txn_e is present wait, but if it is not continue to the sell and confirm and loop on until txn_e is present to then wait (atm i have it set for 5 second).

The tricky part with this is that uni-toast is an alert of sort that appears when your balance is below a certain amount. but when i use my try/except it returns as false(empty element list).

while True:
    create_order = driver.find_element(By.XPATH, '/html/body/uni-app/uni-page/uni-page-wrapper/uni-page-body/uni-view/uni-view[4]/uni-button').click()
    try:
        txn_e = driver.find_elements(by=By.CLASS_NAME, value='uni-toast')
    except NoSuchElementException:
        print("No element found")
    else:
        print("Below $5.. Please wait")
        time.sleep(5)
    if txn_e is True:
        sell = driver.find_element(by=By.XPATH, value='/html/body/uni-app/uni-page/uni-page-wrapper/uni-page-body/uni-view/uni-view[7]/uni-view/uni-view/uni-view[6]/uni-button[2]').click()
        time.sleep(10)
        confirm = driver.find_element(by=By.XPATH, value='/html/body/uni-app/uni-page/uni-page-wrapper/uni-page-body/uni-view/uni-view[8]/uni-view/uni-view/uni-button').click()
        time.sleep(10)

[inland oak]

No idea what your question is, but I would prefer if you fixed how you find your values

/html/body/uni-app/uni-page/uni-page-wrapper/uni-page-body/uni-view/uni-view[8]/uni-view/uni-view/uni-button writing using long path like that is unacceptable

u a supposed to use only some sort of identifiers from the end of the path

like unique class of the uni-button object

[hazy night]

im using the full xpath

[inland oak]

u a using it wrongly

[hazy night]

is there a way to shorten it?

[inland oak]

yes

correct path would be looking out of 1-3 sub levels at the deepest end of the DOM. Not the 10 of them like u have from the root

[hazy night]

got it, like me clean it up some. thanks for the tip will be back

[inland oak]

usually people find objects by #unique_id or .class_names

if it is possible to find only by .class_names, and they are more than one of them, they add going into it from the parent class

something like

.uni-view -> .unit -> button

correct usage requires knowing CSS basics at least, how to use CSS selectors basically, or just finding objects by class/ids in Selenium, it is possible without CSS selectors i think

[terse niche]

hey does anyone know how can we host django website and mysql database for free? Please

[hollow dragon]

heroku?

[terse niche]

can we host mysql database too?

[hollow dragon]

as far as I know

[random spindle]

any1 tried this course?: https://www.udemy.com/course/the-complete-web-development-bootcamp/

is udemy any good

[hollow dragon]

i mean

I would rather read books about the topic

and apply the knowledge on a project

[hazy night]

ive cleaned up most of my XPATH while also working on the loop at hand.. but im having issue with shortening this XPATH for a button
element : <uni-button data-v-2fa3158e="" class="" type="primary">Sell</uni-button>
XPATH : /html/body/uni-app/uni-page/uni-page-wrapper/uni-page-body/uni-view/uni-view[7]/uni-view/uni-view/uni-view[6]/uni-button[2]

Ive written //uni-view[7]/uni-view/uni-view/uni-view[6]/uni-button[2] and a couple variation but continue to get the element is not interactable error

[inland oak]

Give a reading to Head first CSS book

[nimble wraith]

Hello python community! : )

I have my little Flask project and it's currently running with the given IP.
I did some research because I want to use a custom domain but couldn't find any helpful answers ("PyCharm Flask use custom domain"). So I want to ask you guys if you could help me to use a custom domain in PyCharm using Flask.

Thank you!

[inland oak]

Domain is not in anyway IDE or programming language attached

Just find smth like Namecheap how to configure A record

Or better get domain in Cloudflare perhaps

[nimble wraith]

I'm currenly using cloudflare to connect my IP to the domain

But I dont know how to use it in pycharm

[swift sky]

is it possible to save a pdf to a tempfile

im having a hard time finding good examples online

everything i see tries to write a string to bytes

[native tide]

What does a cli actually do? Does it pass arguments to the server?

[frank shoal]

Like with a flask cli?

@app.cli.command() will run the command on the host you ran it on. The only connections it will make are ones you specifically make and database connections if needed.

[random spindle]

yeah but books = $$$$ and hard to find

[frank shoal]

!resources

[lavish prism]

Resources

The Resources page on our website contains a list of hand-selected learning resources that we regularly recommend to both beginners and experts.

[frank shoal]

if you buy a book on full stack, it will be outdated in a month

[random spindle]

yeah

[hollow dragon]

sorry but what do you mean by: "custom domain in PyCharm"

lmao

if you want to deploy your flask project I'd recommend https://blog.miguelgrinberg.com/post/the-flask-mega-tutorial-part-i-hello-world

I learned everything about Flask thanks to Miguel's book

even deployment

[frank shoal]

You could use yoursite.localhost

[nimble wraith]

I'm actually trying to connect to a dns server

[hollow dragon]

Ah ight

[frank shoal]

Who is your provider?

[nimble wraith]

dns server is cloudflare

[frank shoal]

No, that's your dns server, not your provider.

ex: you can use google, aws, namecheap, etc

[nimble wraith]

I am using PyCharm to create the flask application and use cloudflare as an dns server

[frank shoal]

What exactly are you trying to achieve? Putting a hostname in the url and getting your app?

i.e http://your-awesome-host.com/

[nimble wraith]

I am trying to connect my flask applicatrion with a domain

yes

[frank shoal]

You will need a host then.

[nimble wraith]

wich for example

[frank shoal]

heroku can host a single app for free with limited capabilities.

[nimble wraith]

I am already using an KVM vServer for that

[frank shoal]

on your local machine?

[nimble wraith]

on dashserv, but there are so many other hosters

[frank shoal]

Is it a static ip?

Find your domain with this.
https://dashserv.io/domain-registrieren

ex

You'll need to pay 5 euros for it, plus there's a renewal fee each year.

[nimble wraith]

I do already own some domains

[frank shoal]

And you're trying to link it to pycharm?

[nimble wraith]

exactly

[frank shoal]

are you trying to debug your production machine?

Is it pycharm community or professional?

[nimble wraith]

community

[frank shoal]

pycharm community doesn't support remote connections

https://www.jetbrains.com/help/pycharm/remote-development-starting-page.html

[nimble wraith]

well I should have known that before, are there any other IDEs that support it?

[frank shoal]

vscode does

[nimble wraith]

thank you for letting me know that

[frank shoal]

via an extension

btw, your question should have been:

I have a server. How do I connect Pycharm to it?

An alternative could be to mount your code onto a shared NFS volume, though that tends to impact file watcher performance.

[native tide]

I see, how do you attach it to an ASGI server like Daphne or Uvicorn.

[frank shoal]

cli is just for the flask cli

[bitter ravine]

Can anyone help me fix this error. The django modules don't seem to be here, although I have done every setup right

[remote prawn]

is django installed and is your ide pointing to the correct venv?

[charred cedar]

how do i use math.ceil() in my jinja template? I want to round up a passed param, but don't want to make another parameter to send to the template.

[remote prawn]

what is the context in which you want that implemented

in your template

[charred cedar]

<h2>Only {{ math.ceil(contract_remaining.weeks) - 1 }} more {{ today.strftime("%A") }}s left!</h2>

It's a countdown that has a dataclass passed to it that i access in the template. This is the line im trying to round up.

[remote prawn]

and the dataclass passes succesfully?

[charred cedar]

oh ya, this works just fine

    <table>
        <thead>
            <tr>
                <th>Days</th>
                <th>Weeks</th>
                <th>Hours</th>
            </tr>
        </thead>
        <tbody>
            <tr>
                <td>{{ contract_remaining.days - 1 }}</td>
                <td>{{ contract_remaining.weeks }}</td>
                <td>{{ contract_remaining.hours }}</td>
            </tr>
        </tbody>
    </table>

[bitter ravine]

I installed it in the virtual environment I created.

Anyway, thanks. I've figured it out😉

[remote prawn]

no worries

[remote prawn]

it's been a minute since I did this but I think you need to {% math.ceil(contract_remaining.weeks) -1 %}

sorry if that doesn't help anything at all

iirc {{}} is for variables and {%%} is for other stuff

[charred cedar]

hmmm but its both a variable and "other stuff"

ill try it out

nah, didn't work

[remote prawn]

well I suck sorry man

[charred cedar]

No you dont lmao thanks for trying though <3

[remote prawn]

my very cursory google search seems to indicate that the best practice is to put the maths in your view and then pass it to the template but that doesn't sound like it would work well for you

[charred cedar]

i went ahead and did something similar, i dont think its possible for a template to do anything more than stock python, the rest needs to be passed to the template

[acoustic summit]

Hi guys

what library you recommend to convert list object to array json?

[charred cedar]

do you mean write a list to json text file?

[acoustic summit]

i need response to get method with list json

[charred cedar]

ill need more context

[acoustic summit]

I retrive a list object from database using sqlachemy

i need build an endpoint than reponse with list json

[remote prawn]

do you really mean list or do you mean dict

if list I think it's doable if you define fields and then add teh values

then you can easily go from dict to json

as a dict it's basically already json

[acoustic summit]

aList is a list of objects

[remote prawn]

oh ok yeah you are creating a dict

[acoustic summit]

I look a library to convert aList to list json

[remote prawn]

or rather you are making a list of dicts

feels like you could just make a dict that then gets those values then json.dump that dict

or return it or send it to a client or w/e

in which case you would skip the list step

[jovial mortar]

Anyone have the slightest idea as to why the hell fastapi is rounding my integers to the nearest 10 in responses?

occasionally it rounds to 4 or 6 as well

[native tide]

I see, I have a lib that is based on Django. But doesn't have the wsgi.py and uses asgi, it has the asgi.py inside the lib of it's package but also Uvicorn and starlette. Been trying to figure out how to attach it to the web.config in place of the wsgi_handler

[jovial mortar]

FYI this only happens with larger numbers for some reason...

[jovial mortar]

I've able to consistently reproduce with numbers greater than ten quadrillion (10_000_000_000_000_000), with reproduction as simple as ```py
import random
from typing import List

from fastapi import FastAPI

app = FastAPI()

@app.get("/", response_model=List[int])
async def test():
values = [random.randint(10_000_000_000_000_000, 100_000_000_000_000_000) for _ in range(5)]
for value in values:
print(value)
return values

[remote prawn]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/31462595/how-to-avoid-rounding-of-a-long-value-on-client-side

could have something to do with length of the long int

it it really rounding when you inspect it

or is it just displaying rounded

also do you have a legit need for values that large?

@jovial mortar ?

[jovial mortar]

well

yeah

i use snowflake values for my object ids, identically to how twitter and discord do it

i suppose if it's just to do with the displaying of the values, I can work around it, but it's quite annoying

[remote prawn]

I can't be sure if it is, personally, but it seems like that's what is happening

[jovial mortar]

I actually just figured that out, and yeah it is.

[remote prawn]

ahh

[jovial mortar]

Maybe I should serve the user IDs as strings and convert them back when received by the client

I guess that's why discord does it that way

[remote prawn]

that'd make sense

kind of annoying to have to do tho

sorry bro

[jovial mortar]

yeah it is. thanks though

[hexed solstice]

Hi Pythonistas! Got a question that might be a silly one, please bear with me!

I'm hoping to move all my web development into Python. I know that Django is a great framework for full-stack, and Flask and FastAPI are close seconds. But I wonder is there a way to do full-stack development with Python where there's a good separation of concerns? I don't really want to build everything in the 1 framework since that makes it hard to scale and use the API for different things. But I haven't really found a Python front-end framework.

What's out there? What have you found, or used before? Or is it just pretty common for Python web devs to do everything under 1 framework? Or do we use python for API and server, and something else for front end?

Cheers!

[inland oak]

Firstly, be careful with marrying python Frameworks. Better to try keeping your code isolated if possible from them.

Secondly, all Python Frameworks provide working as JSON REST API at least, then they serve as backend only

It is assumed that proper frontend will be made in React/Vue.js/Angular

Recommending Vue.js for Frontend part, as it is easiest to learn and work with

Frontend in python is not possible.
Just some limited frontendiness with Jinja2 templating library
And possible usage of vanilla js, jQuery or even statically linked Vue.js. that is it. For full frontend go to js frontend frameworks installed with js package managers

[hexed solstice]

Thanks for your answer so far @inland oak ! I've come to realise that there aren't any python frontends, and it's all just templates. Looks like Python is all backend only.

I am familiar with Vue and React so I guess I'll stick with them!

This definitely helps me keep to the separation of concerns.

[obtuse robin]

are you able to submit a form to flask without the page refreshing

there are going to be multiple forms in this one page i want to build but they arent very "refresh worthy" and are simple things just intended to give a bit of data to my database

[inland oak]

With vanilla js, jQuery or with statically linked vue.js.
For a full power for that, to go into frontend frameworks

That is the purpose of js. Doing stuff without refreshing.

[obtuse robin]

are you able to add something to a database using just vanilla web js?

i thought i would need to know node js or somethign

[inland oak]

Yes u can, but it is much more painful than using full frontend framework with node.js stuff

Vanilla js syntax is horrible

But it can do the trick

[obtuse robin]

i see

wait so is what im trying to do too much of a hassle with flask? should i just make the app with node js instead, or am i able to use both

[inland oak]

Obviously, js just calls backend endpoint of backend framework in order to make request to db

[inland oak]

Literally answered just above you, to user RachelJ

[obtuse robin]

ah okay

[inland oak]

Essentially yes. People use backend and frontend at the same time.
Backend can be python, frontend is js

U can of course try doing it in flask, but u code will become more and more shitter with every addition of vanilla js

[static patio]

Hi everyone, is anyone familiar with apache2?

[nimble wraith]

Okay, now after I know pycharm commumity doesnt support virtual connections and I should use vscode, I've installed it and it works again but my question is still the same; How do I connect my flask application with my dns server to use a custom domain?

[small coral]

You need to get a DNS record for yourself from a registrar

[nimble wraith]

So I have a domain, use cloudflare as an dns server (I am using the A record type) and I have my Flask application. But I don't know how to connect my flask application with this record. Is it the IP adress from the "Running on: xxIPxx" print when running the application,..?

[inland oak]

Nginx is better ;b I think it is just even more popular

[inland oak]

U get server or PC with public IP accessable from outside world
U install your flask app there
U point your DNS records to this public IP.
Profit

Get server from something like DigitalOcean for example

[serene prawn]

Traefik 🤔

[inland oak]

for caching!

Haproxy for load balancing!

Nginx for reverse proxy and static assets server ;b

[serene prawn]

Traefik doesn't have anything to do with caching really? It's a reverse proxy

[inland oak]

does it? Nginx is reverse proxy but can be used for caching as well

some features are available in free version, and some only in premium

to my understanding Traefik just has more free to use features for caching

[serene prawn]

Traefik is mainly a reverse-proxy, i'm pretty happy with it compared to nginx

Mainly because of service discovery in docker swarm / docker compose

With configuration looking like this:

version: "3"
services:
  my-container:
    deploy:
      labels:
        - traefik.http.routers.my-container.rule=Host(`example.com`)
        - traefik.http.services.my-container-service.loadbalancer.server.port=8080

[native tide]

So

I am going to use djiango

wish me luck

[serene prawn]

What for?

[native tide]

for my personal website

I know a free hosting service but I would like to know what is your recommendation

[serene prawn]

I don't really like django but if you're building a personal website using templates then it's ok

You can get vps for like 5 eur/mo

[native tide]

why

u prefer flask?

or u use nodejs/php

[serene prawn]

It's just kind of outdated

I mainly use fastapi

[native tide]

outdated 0-0

It is actually newer than some api

[serene prawn]

?

[native tide]

I dont think it is outdated, it is among the young api

anyway

fastapi

[serene prawn]

It's 16 years old, fastapi is quite new

[native tide]

djiango is mature but not that old

[serene prawn]

It's really hard to use compared to fastapi though

[native tide]

I see

so the take here is hard to use

thx for the opinion

[serene prawn]

Well, it doesn't use modern features like type annotations, async (it's getting there), so it's somewhat outdated

[native tide]

I have never tried fastapi so I cant tell

but flask is indeed easier than djiango

[serene prawn]

Especially the DRF that most people use with django to create rest api's

Also orm is lacking support for more complex queries

[native tide]

Wow fastapi is a 2018

3 years old

[native tide]

Is fastapi production ready ?

[serene prawn]

Yeah, i use it in production

Many people use it actually

[native tide]

Hmm

[serene prawn]

Compared to django it's really just easier:

class Item(BaseModel):
    name: str
    description: str | None = None
    price: float
    tax: float | None = None


app = FastAPI()


@app.post("/items/")
async def create_item(item: Item):
    return item

[native tide]

I have no problem with difficulty as long as it gets the job done

[serene prawn]

You can use assembly then 😅

[native tide]

I am a little bit higher so I am using c/c++

C++ to be exact*

anyway

[serene prawn]

I meant to say that fastapi is more modern but it's a microframework meaning you'd have to choose an orm and implement things like authentication yourself

[native tide]

You vouch for fastapi

[native tide]

Oh

I see

[serene prawn]

But if it's a personal site that would just render some templates i think you can use literally anything

[native tide]

so fastapi is minimal*

[serene prawn]

Yep, like flask but on steroids

[native tide]

templates, blogs, and most likely comment section

[serene prawn]

Seems pretty simple, go with django

[native tide]

Yup

unfortunately not 100% static

if it was I would just host on github

[native tide]

wait not fastapi?

[serene prawn]

Yep, your app seems pretty simple, for something more complex i'd use fastapi

[native tide]

I see

[gusty hedge]

it actually depends on your needs. If your app needs intensive use of SQL operations and you don't want to take too much decisions about code organization, choose Django. If your business logic is simple and don't need "all batteries included" or DB is nonsql, choose, FastAPI, Flask, etc

[native tide]

🔋 🔋

I dont know if they are good or not

[serene prawn]

I'd argue that it's better to not use django if you have any intensive sql operations or complex business logic

[native tide]

maybe staying minimal is good and simpler

[serene prawn]

django orm isn't that great

[native tide]

Honestly, i dont expect alot from a 3 years old api

[gusty hedge]

yeah, it also depends on dev team skills. If writing and maintaining SQL statements is ok. Go for something lighter

[native tide]

in my current situation flask, djiango, and fastapi are all usable*

[serene prawn]

Or you can use sqlalchemy and don't touch sql directly at all?

[gusty hedge]

yeah, there are plenty of options out there. Stuff to have in mind when choosing (at least what I follow): skills, time/budget and requirements

[native tide]

Good point

[serene prawn]

I'd argue if it's a long-term project it's better to use something minimal that you can tailor to your needs

[gusty hedge]

I'd seen people forcing Django to work with nonsql DB. Definitely money is not a problem 😂

[native tide]

idk but i see djiango in itself is worth learning

[serene prawn]

Well, it is, but it's just a bit outdated

[gusty hedge]

if team is good to keep code organized. Otherwise it will be a mess. I'd seen teams in transitions from .NET and Java stacks moving to Python (using Flask) and result is a mess

[serene prawn]

It's not a problem with specific framework

[native tide]

why would they move out of .Net and java

[cloud path]

how do i check if some letters are in the name of a string? like "Book", and I give an input of "Bo", and it will give me the field that contains "Book"?

[gusty hedge]

I wasn't there when decision was taken. I got into the team a year later

[native tide]

maybe .Net and Java devs are just getting more paid

if money was not the issue then idk

[gusty hedge]

yeah, I don't know...

[serene prawn]

.NET Core is actually quite good, i'm not sure why you'd move to python

[gusty hedge]

yeah, no idea. My guess is that some tech lead convenced bosses

[native tide]

in conclusion it is a djiango

[serene prawn]

fastapi :D

jk, just take a look at it, compare with django

[native tide]

You really remind me of those who advertise Rust on the C++ server

[native tide]

this is said, I will keep it in mind

is there any good lecture about djiango or a straight to documentation

djiango is old so I think its documentation will be less modern

[serene prawn]

You should be able to find tutorials on YT, docs also should have a tutorial

[native tide]

[serene prawn]

haha

[native tide]

while fastapi is quite young so I am less likely to get alot of guides

[serene prawn]

Take a look at sqlalchemy docs

[native tide]

If you follow the documentation, you would be lost. There are a lot and lot of things that Django offer (Its Turing Complete), Start by focusing on what you need to do and do a project based learning.

[serene prawn]

Django is a framework, what do you mean by turing complete? 😅

[native tide]

wow so it is just set up a project and face the problems head on

before even learning

[native tide]

You can build all types of web applications using Django

[serene prawn]

It doesn't mean turing complete

I can build all types of web applications with python

[native tide]

Yup, facebook proved that

[serene prawn]

Facebook doesn't use django though

[native tide]

Not all frameworks offer everything required, Like Django does. In that context it is turing complete

[serene prawn]

Well, that doesn't mean you can't use something else instead, like flask or fastapi

or starlette, sanic, etc

In my opinion django tries to handle too much things (templating, orm, migrations) not the best way

And there's a lot of boilerplate involved

[native tide]

Yup

[native tide]

Instagram was built using Django, Not sure what changed recently

[native tide]

yeaa

another question

any free hostin service

Im goin on budget now >->

[serene prawn]

I didn't really use free services but basic vps is quite cheap

~5 eur

[native tide]

You can try AWS Lightsail, VPS for 3.5 USD per month (First 3 months free)

thats about 40+ usd yearly

anyway

thx for suggestion

[serene prawn]

Well, yeah, but you can host multiple websites there

And 40 usd early isn't that much 🤔

[native tide]

how does that compare with google cloud

[native tide]

subscriptions keep stacking up though

[serene prawn]

Again, you can host multiple services on single vps

[native tide]

Yes

I also believe that website will be on very low traffic for a while

Fine

JUST another subscription, this the last one!

@native tide can you tell us what your goal is, there might be something we can suggest

[native tide]

personal website

It would be static right ?

[serene prawn]

no

Blog type thingy

[native tide]

Ooh

I will leave it dynamic ;-;

I mean I can use Jekyll

I can help you do that using Wordpress

Yeaa

[gusty hedge]

vultr has $2.5/m boxes

[native tide]

I have wordpress set on local

[native tide]

thanks

Im actually not good at frontend

I understand how CSS works, but design and frustration is endless

whoever created CSS is evil

You can pick a theme in Wordpress

no need to design it yourself

elementor is op

I will come here to ask alot of things about webdev >->

I hope i get help and thanks in advance

[serene prawn]

no no no

[native tide]

wordpress hater?

I mean I met alot of people who dislikes wordpress

[fleet vector]

Which tool is commonly used for serverless in Python?
Zappa, chalice, serverless framework or the aws sdk?

[native tide]

[fleet vector]

I used the serverless framework while working in JS but it's mainly a js libary

[serene prawn]

Didn't have any experience with serverless, mostly use fastapi/strawberry 🤔

[amber ember]

The counterpoint being I've seen more than one Flask (and Sinatra on the Ruby side) app that just ends up being a shittier duct-taped version of Django/Rails

[fleet vector]

Most jobs want experience building API's on AWS and that's what I want to branch to. It was easy to do in Node but seems python is pretty lacking.

[serene prawn]

Ehm, not really

[amber ember]

I'm speaking from experience

[serene prawn]

You can make a mess in both django/flask

[native tide]

You can AWS Lambda for that

[amber ember]

it's always humorous to me to see devs that think "Django is too heavy" and then 18 months later they've recreated it, but worse

[serene prawn]

How can you make it worse? 😅

[fleet vector]

The framework builds on Lamda and provides an interface. I guess it's not commonly used. Thanks still

[native tide]

By trying to make it simple I guess 😄

[amber ember]

I guess I can only speak from my personal experience and what I've seen

definitely seen some bad apps that started out with that exact mindset

[serene prawn]

My coworkers find fastapi easier to use than django when building api's

[amber ember]

then ended up getting ported to the big framework eventually

[serene prawn]

You can use whatever orm you like, and you don't really need anything else

[amber ember]

lol ok

I see you speak for all devs and all apps everywhere

[serene prawn]

That's just my opinion

@amber ember
Django has many batteries included but they're bad quality 🙂
ORM is lacking support for many use cases - cte's, no direct support for group_by or having, long spanning string joins, e.g. user__comments__text__contains=...
Test system - why? We have pytest
No type annotations

DRF specific:
ViewSets are great, unless you need something more than CRUD
Again, no type annotations?
Serializers - they're old, pydantic does validation better, also for some reason serializers responsible not for just validation your data but also for creating it

[native tide]

Actually, it is good to have that enthusiasm and passion to promote an API or a programming language. This is one way to make it popular. As for the case with any open source project, the more popular it becomes the better it gets refined.

[serene prawn]

I'm not saying django is bad, it just has a lot of problems or outdated features

and some of them aren't addressed for years

[native tide]

outdated >> dated/experimental/beta-testing

I would vote for old features rather than new ones, personally

[native tide]

I hope there are solutions and work around those problems uwu

[serene prawn]

Why? Is it better to work with serializers rather than pydantic/other models that would have type annotations?

[native tide]

I prefer old because normally it is well tested and most of its problems already have a solution somewhere on the internet, and importantly it is more stable and consistent

[serene prawn]

Well, fastapi/pydantic are well tested

They're not week old

[native tide]

but trying new ones is not bad either

modern solutions are also usually smarter

what I like about the new apis is the ease of use

[serene prawn]

Django started quite a long ago, when we didn't have modern features like async or type annotations, so it lacks in these
As i said async is coming to django, but it's a bit too late

[serene prawn]

You mean frameworks/libraries

[native tide]

ya

[native tide]

next year?

[serene prawn]

I don't know