#web-development | Python | Page 152

jagged sphinx Apr 29, 2021, 5:11 AM

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Hi,
I was asked by a person to make an e - commerce website
This is the first time I am making a website for someone else, any advice for me

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 5:30 AM

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hii

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i am testing my views with postman. I am not able to retrieve the data i send in a post request

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glitch

vestal hound Apr 29, 2021, 6:27 AM

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AWS Elastic Beanstalk

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Google App Engine

spark swan Apr 29, 2021, 7:42 AM

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Yes I have used them before. They are very powerful together. I recommend u use DRF for the Django APIs

shy bane Apr 29, 2021, 8:23 AM

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yoo bro i've a doubt

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how can i become a backend developer after learning python

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what do i have to do next i've compleated full begineer course

dusk portal Apr 29, 2021, 9:00 AM

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@shy bane just first learn flask as it is good for begginers in that u will learn about databases and little php learn that and u should know little html and css so do all these stuff and after all this go to Django and learn that + keeping practicing and making projects day by day u will become pro in it

dusk portal Apr 29, 2021, 9:02 AM

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dusk portal <@!776725416450326549> just first learn flask as it is good for begginers in th...

here this is for all who want to learn web dev from python and go to advanced

hoary brook Apr 29, 2021, 9:02 AM

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Hello, I'm trying to create sign in functionality for my Django website, but even if I enter valid information, I get an error. How can I fix this?

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dusk portal Apr 29, 2021, 9:03 AM

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can i know error?

hoary brook Apr 29, 2021, 9:04 AM

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I'm not getting an actual error, but an error message is created from my for loop instead of redirecting me when the information is valid

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The information is valid, but Django keeps telling me that the information doesn't match.

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Maybe I'm using the wrong input fields?

dusk portal Apr 29, 2021, 9:05 AM

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hoary brook Maybe I'm using the wrong input fields?

yes maybe

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listen 1 idea

hoary brook Apr 29, 2021, 9:06 AM

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I'm using the default AuthenticationForm though...

dusk portal Apr 29, 2021, 9:06 AM

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rename this in ur templates folder bro so if it shows temp not found so it means prblm was in html

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do that

hoary brook Apr 29, 2021, 9:07 AM

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That's not the error I am getting though.

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The views all work, it's that it doesn't recognize that the passed info is valid

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Even though the form is valid, it prints the errors instead of logging me in correctly.

patent cobalt Apr 29, 2021, 9:18 AM

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The form will throw this error if the authenticate call failed for some reason

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Specifically, here:


        if username is not None and password:
            self.user_cache = authenticate(self.request, username=username, password=password)
            if self.user_cache is None:
                raise self.get_invalid_login_error()
            else:
                self.confirm_login_allowed(self.user_cache)

hoary brook Apr 29, 2021, 9:20 AM

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I'm very new to Django and following a tutorial by Corey Schafer, the only notable difference I have is that I split up the form instead of plotting it all at once (so I can style it)

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So I'm quite lost as to how I can prevent this..

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ah... now it worked... It seems I need to show the view like this

inland copper Apr 29, 2021, 9:42 AM

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yes

loud bridge Apr 29, 2021, 12:43 PM

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hey i am using beautiful soup to parse some data

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but there are too many div tags used

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so i checked the div and class of the specific data and got None

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then i checked the parent div

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which has triple dots at many places

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i want the info inside it

loud bridge Apr 29, 2021, 12:44 PM

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loud bridge

how to view the child tags inside this span

sharp marten Apr 29, 2021, 1:01 PM

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wlr#9602: wlr#9602`: wlr#9602: ``wlr#9602: ``Stehack_#7605: !code`````

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wlr#9602: wlr#9602`: wlr#9602: ``wlr#9602: ``Stehack_#7605: !code`````

hoary brook Apr 29, 2021, 1:19 PM

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How can I get a value from one model and show it on another model in Django?
My User's Profile model has a boolean value of user_verified, and I want to display this on my Product model.
(My final goal is to show on a product whether the author is verified or not using a badge icon)

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If someone can help me, feel free to @ so I don't miss it :)

inland oak Apr 29, 2021, 2:09 PM

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I just want to say, that I like this image

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it is magical

inland oak Apr 29, 2021, 3:04 PM

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urgh, those damn static files

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why can't they be shown in Gunicorn correctly%?
I already even collected them to one folder

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I don't want raising nginx for this, it still sort of development

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 3:24 PM

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inland oak I don't want raising nginx for this, it still sort of development

whitenoise!

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gunicorn + whitenoise is a quick and easy combo for simple apps

inland oak Apr 29, 2021, 3:25 PM

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wooden ruin whitenoise!

already 'hacked' django settings to do that

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I'll be sure to remember a better way though

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better to write into issues

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 3:26 PM

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yup

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 3:27 PM

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hoary brook How can I get a value from one model and show it on another model in Django? My ...

your product should have a ForeignKey to the User model, where you can simply call it like:
Product.objects.get(...).author.user_verified for example

inland oak Apr 29, 2021, 3:53 PM

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wooden ruin yup

thanks. easy to use way)

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I guess it is less dumb way than writing

# url(r'^static/(?P<path>.*)$', django.views.static.serve,
    #     {'document_root': settings.STATIC_ROOT}),

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I feel like it is almost the same though

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oh, it has caching and etc

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all right, perhaps it is not the same

terse vapor Apr 29, 2021, 4:16 PM

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is there a route for this?

hoary brook Apr 29, 2021, 4:24 PM

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@wooden ruin I can't get it to work, this is my current situation:

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wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 4:29 PM

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Why don't you link author to profile instead of user?

hoary brook Apr 29, 2021, 4:30 PM

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I'm following a tutorial which linked it to User (to display the name). I also can't seem to import Profile unless I use apps.get_model

sage estuary Apr 29, 2021, 4:30 PM

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prob better to ask here

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 4:31 PM

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hoary brook I'm following a tutorial which linked it to User (to display the name). I also c...

Check for any circular dependencies

sage estuary Apr 29, 2021, 4:31 PM

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if i wanted to try web development should i learn django or flask

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i have no idea

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what they are

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i just searched it up on youtube and all the tutorials have one of them

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 4:31 PM

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sage estuary if i wanted to try web development should i learn django or flask

Dont go into flask or Django if you're completely new to web dev, learn html and css first

sage estuary Apr 29, 2021, 4:32 PM

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html and?

hoary brook Apr 29, 2021, 4:32 PM

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No circular dependencies, these are my only imports in both models.py files:

from django.contrib.auth.models import User```

sage estuary Apr 29, 2021, 4:32 PM

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or just html

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 4:32 PM

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sage estuary or just html

html css javascript

sage estuary Apr 29, 2021, 4:32 PM

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hmmm

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this is

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where idont try making a website

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 4:33 PM

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hoary brook No circular dependencies, these are my only imports in both models.py files: ```...

Did you set AUTH_USER_MODEL in settings?

hoary brook Apr 29, 2021, 4:33 PM

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What does that do?

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I didn't create a custom User model, I'm using the default one and just adding a Profile model to it

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 4:35 PM

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it can expose your chosen model to get_user_model()

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also, you should use Profile in the Product foreign key because you can get a User from their profile, letting you access both properties

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 4:37 PM

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sage estuary where idont try making a website

you can build simple HTML pages and style them with CSS. i suggest you start messing around with what you can do in a webpage with just that first, then move on to things like javascript

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from there you can start learning frameworks, but its important to get the basics first

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and i suggest starting with flask once you're ready :)

hoary brook Apr 29, 2021, 4:39 PM

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Do I just set AUTH_USER_MODEL = 'User' if I'm using the default user model?

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Ah wait, I should probably expose users.profile?

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 4:40 PM

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no need to specify an AUTH_USER_MODEL if you're just using the one provided django. if you are extending from a class, such as:
class User(get_user_model()):
you would want that one to be your default user model

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and unless you want User and Profile to stay separated, i strongly suggest just extending from the class

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also keep inmind, your profile model inherits from User, yet sets a foreign key to User

hoary brook Apr 29, 2021, 4:42 PM

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I want my user to have a variable amount of credits and a verified bool, that's all I need.
So should I create e.g. CustomUser and inherit from User?

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 4:49 PM

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if all you want to do is just add a few properties then you should probably extend from the User class.

hoary brook Apr 29, 2021, 4:53 PM

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Maybe I should start with a simpler framework and go back to Django when I have a better understanding of the general way things work

dawn heath Apr 29, 2021, 5:09 PM

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what is the best way to handle the following structure? how can I connect the following ? https://dpaste.org/Sm5c

terse vapor Apr 29, 2021, 5:16 PM

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do you mind share it?

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u didnt add the user = User(...)

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then commit and save to db

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@app.route('/register',methods=['GET','POST'])
def register():
    form = Registration()
    if form.validate_on_submit():
        user = User(Firstname=Form.firstname.data...)
        db.session.add(user)
        db.session.commit()
        return redirect(url_for('home'))
    return render_template('register.html', title='Register', form=form)```

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I believe this will solve the problem

hardy cosmos Apr 29, 2021, 5:35 PM

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Hi all, I’m trying to use requests to extract an image from a GET request but I’m not sure how to get the image url, as the request content only returns html data and not the image which is sent separately according to my developer console. The website is https://codegena.com/generator/background-image-generator/ I’d appreciate any help 🙂

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trim pike Apr 29, 2021, 5:38 PM

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terse vapor Apr 29, 2021, 6:25 PM

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...

terse vapor Apr 29, 2021, 6:25 PM

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trim pike

u are so funny

opaque rivet Apr 29, 2021, 6:32 PM

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hoary brook Do I just set `AUTH_USER_MODEL = 'User'` if I'm using the default user model?

AUTH_USER_MODEL by django default is already User. Having a one-to-one field is fine, and you will be able to access any User objects via that field - what seems to be the issue?

Also, "extending" the user model means that you will have one model with all of the User's fields and methods, instead of having a seperate model having a relationship to the User model. It's pretty simple to setup:
https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/3.2/topics/auth/customizing/#django.contrib.auth.models.AbstractUser

Customizing authentication in Django | Django documentation | Django

opal dune Apr 29, 2021, 6:48 PM

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trim pike

lmao instead of cookies

glossy arrow Apr 29, 2021, 8:06 PM

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Hey guys, does react-admin have a data provider for the Django REST framework?

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 8:54 PM

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can somebody help m

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wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 8:56 PM

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native tide can somebody help m

don't ask to ask, just ask your question :)

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 8:57 PM

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so im making a youtube view bot

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as my first project

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and the problem is that the tabs dont close

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so eventually my pc will crash because of 1000000 tabs

violet briar Apr 29, 2021, 8:58 PM

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I am looking for a good feature-rich JS IDE, should I use JetBrains webstorm or should I use VSCode (with extensions)

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 8:58 PM

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@wooden ruin

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 8:58 PM

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violet briar I am looking for a good feature-rich JS IDE, should I use JetBrains webstorm or ...

i use pycharm

violet briar Apr 29, 2021, 8:58 PM

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native tide i use pycharm

pycharm doesn't support js

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 8:58 PM

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ok

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does anybody help here

violet briar Apr 29, 2021, 8:59 PM

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violet briar pycharm doesn't support js

oh, wait, it actually does, just not as feature rich though

opaque rivet Apr 29, 2021, 9:00 PM

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violet briar oh, wait, it actually does, just not as feature rich though

pycharm is very good for JS development

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you won't be missing out on any "features"

violet briar Apr 29, 2021, 9:01 PM

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opaque rivet pycharm is very good for JS development

ah, good

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thank you

opaque rivet Apr 29, 2021, 9:01 PM

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pycharm pro comes with pre-builds for react etc.

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:01 PM

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violet briar I am looking for a good feature-rich JS IDE, should I use JetBrains webstorm or ...

webstorm if you can afford it, but vscode is a good all around editor imo

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:01 PM

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native tide so eventually my pc will crash because of 1000000 tabs

what libraries are you using?

opaque rivet Apr 29, 2021, 9:01 PM

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you can get all jetbrains products for free with a student email acc, if you don't have one you can buy it for $2

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:01 PM

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uh this is my script

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import webbrowser, time
url = input("Enter url: ")
duration = input("Enter duration: ")
for i in range(5):
webbrowser.open_new(url)
time.sleep(int(duration))

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@wooden ruin

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:04 PM

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use something like pyautogui or pykeyboard to close the tab manually. webbrowser doesn't have a method to close the tab yet.

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:04 PM

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?

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what

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im new sorry

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how do i do that

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:05 PM

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basically, you can't close the tab using the webbrowser module which you are using.

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you will need to manually close thme

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u can do this by hand or by code

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:05 PM

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uh i just want the bot to afk

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unless i use autoclicker to use them

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close them*

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il see how that goes

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:06 PM

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you want to make this as automated as possible, there's a library called pyautogui which you can use to close the window

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:06 PM

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how do i do that

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do i just add import pyautogui at the start

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:07 PM

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kind of

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pyautogui is a module

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:07 PM

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how do i install pyautogui

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:07 PM

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which you import

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pip install pyautogui

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read the documentation of how it works here

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https://pyautogui.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:08 PM

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do i need to restart my pycharm

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where do i install pyautogui, cmd?

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:09 PM

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cmd is a terminal

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:09 PM

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it says i already have it

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but in pycharm i dont

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oh i have it

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sheeeeeeeeesh

violet briar Apr 29, 2021, 9:09 PM

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small question, as I learn JS, HTML and CSS, should I also build some small (no GUI) python side projects on the way or should I focus fully on JS, HTML and CSS?

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:10 PM

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yea thats the module for you @native tide , go to the website i sent and go thru how it works

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:10 PM

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ohk

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bruh have u read this

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:10 PM

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violet briar small question, as I learn JS, HTML and CSS, should I also build some small (no ...

if you want to get into web frameworks written in Python, you will need to learn at least the basics of python and have a good sense of programming

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:10 PM

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i dont know the coordinates of my mouse lmao

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:11 PM

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you don't need to right

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its at the top right

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the x is the highest and most to the right thing on ur screen

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right

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violet briar Apr 29, 2021, 9:11 PM

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wooden ruin if you want to get into web frameworks written in Python, you will need to learn...

I know quite a lot about python, or it's just dunning kruger effect, but I at least know the basics and worked on a few complex projects

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:12 PM

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but it opens a tab

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not a browser

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oh i can just do it witha closed browser

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and it will keep opening browsers and closing them

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but my pc is too slow to open the tab fast and it wont go on the site

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:13 PM

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violet briar I know quite a lot about python, or it's just dunning kruger effect, but I at le...

that's good, and javascript will give you a solid foundation of front-end programming. do you have any web frameworks in mind right now?

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i suggest starting with Flask

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:13 PM

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native tide but my pc is too slow to open the tab fast and it wont go on the site

if that's a case, you might not want to run this program on your pc

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:13 PM

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i will

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dont worry

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everything is possible

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:13 PM

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thats 100% correct

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in fact

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you can deploy your program to a cloud service

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so you can really afk get views

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:14 PM

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im too stubborn to not get what i want

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a cloud servicec?

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:14 PM

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basically running your code on someone else's pc

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cool right

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:14 PM

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yeaa

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but i dont have a 2nd pc

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:14 PM

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u dont have to

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:14 PM

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can i do it random peoples pc

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wtf

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:15 PM

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there are companies that can do this for you

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:15 PM

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first i need to create the code 🙂

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:15 PM

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yup

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:15 PM

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that site is useless

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i dont even know whats happening when i read it

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:16 PM

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its literally the official documentation of the module

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it's not useless, you just have to understand what's going on

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:17 PM

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I crashed my pc !!

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I'm talking on my phone

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:17 PM

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oh gosh

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can u send the code

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probably an infinite loop that crashed it

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:18 PM

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Yea it was

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:18 PM

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how many times did u loop

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:18 PM

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Uh

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:18 PM

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or expect to

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:18 PM

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Forever

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:18 PM

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how much apart were the intervals

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:18 PM

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The what

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:19 PM

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like how often did it open the browser

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:19 PM

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I'm screwed

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:19 PM

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wooden ruin like how often did it open the browser

Like every half second

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:19 PM

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right so you should probably wait like 10 seconds before doing the next one lol

naive summit Apr 29, 2021, 9:19 PM

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Rip ram

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:19 PM

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native tide import webbrowser, time url = input("Enter url: ") duration = input("Enter durat...

time.sleep(10)

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:19 PM

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Should I turn off my pc

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It might blow up

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:20 PM

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that pc's ram is gone

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u have to restart ur pc lol

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:20 PM

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Omg

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U just scared me

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:20 PM

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lmao

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the reason why its so slow is because you literally ran out of ram

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:20 PM

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It's not even starting !!

naive summit Apr 29, 2021, 9:20 PM

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Yea

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:20 PM

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Restarting

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:20 PM

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so the pc started taking ram from ur storage

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which is ridiculously slow

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:21 PM

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I have 1 tb

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Of ram

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:21 PM

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no

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:21 PM

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Omg!!!!

naive summit Apr 29, 2021, 9:21 PM

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Rom?

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:21 PM

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u have 1 tb of storage

naive summit Apr 29, 2021, 9:21 PM

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Yea

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:21 PM

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And no pc

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:21 PM

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ram is not storage

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lmao

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:21 PM

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No it literally wont turn off

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:21 PM

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just turn it off and let the pc cool down

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:21 PM

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Dont do coding kids

naive summit Apr 29, 2021, 9:21 PM

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Close your browser

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:21 PM

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Bruh

naive summit Apr 29, 2021, 9:21 PM

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Try

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:22 PM

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native tide No it literally wont turn off

well because it needs to close all those tabs first!!

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:22 PM

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Bruh this is a 10 year old pc

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:22 PM

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hit the power off

naive summit Apr 29, 2021, 9:22 PM

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Or try torefresh

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:22 PM

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I have no graphics card basically

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I. Spamming turn off with my foot

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:22 PM

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just unplug that pc

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:22 PM

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No

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That will Fry it

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:22 PM

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it wont

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ill do it right now

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chill

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:22 PM

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It literally fried my ram

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Last time

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:22 PM

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it didn't

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:22 PM

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It did

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:22 PM

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right now your pc is getting worse

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its still opening tabs

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:22 PM

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It's already bad

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I'm so screwed

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:23 PM

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your pc is not damaged

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:23 PM

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It wont even turn off

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Omggg

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:23 PM

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do u not get that

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its just really slow because all the RAM is used

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:23 PM

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But its gonna slow down

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Even more

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:23 PM

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you need to do a hard shut of

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hold the power for 10 seconds

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:23 PM

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Dw

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No

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That's what I did last time

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And it didnt work

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So I took one of the ram sticks out

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And it works

naive summit Apr 29, 2021, 9:23 PM

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Unplug your pc

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:24 PM

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native tide So I took one of the ram sticks out

thats the dumbest thing u can do

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just unplug the pc

naive summit Apr 29, 2021, 9:24 PM

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Yea

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:24 PM

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nothing bad is gonna happen

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:24 PM

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No

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No

naive summit Apr 29, 2021, 9:24 PM

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Well rip pc

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:24 PM

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Ok

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Pinky finger

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:24 PM

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if you refuse to listen then your pc will never get better

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:24 PM

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You pay for new pc

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:24 PM

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yes

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:24 PM

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If this breaks it

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:24 PM

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ill buy u a 3090

naive summit Apr 29, 2021, 9:24 PM

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Lol

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:24 PM

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Ok I did it

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:24 PM

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good

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:24 PM

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Let's pray

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Why can I hear electricity

naive summit Apr 29, 2021, 9:24 PM

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Plug it again

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:25 PM

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plug it in again and restart

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:25 PM

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It worked !!!

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Woo

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I have a computer

naive summit Apr 29, 2021, 9:25 PM

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Don't forget to refresh it

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:25 PM

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What

naive summit Apr 29, 2021, 9:25 PM

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Refresh

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:25 PM

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I'm not even turning it on

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I need to go to sleep

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:26 PM

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ok

naive summit Apr 29, 2021, 9:26 PM

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Ok

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:26 PM

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I just wanted 1m views overnight

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And I have 1m dead brain cells now

wooden ruin Apr 29, 2021, 9:26 PM

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🤨

native tide Apr 29, 2021, 9:27 PM

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Can I dm you

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So you dont forget about me

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And I know who to text

digital mango Apr 29, 2021, 9:50 PM

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yo wait could i also get some help for web development?

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h1 {
  font-size: 60px;
}

section h1 {
  font-size: 40px;
}

figure-1 {
  width:50px;
  height:50px
}

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so the first chunk of code is my index.html

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the second one is the style.css

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im having trouble setting the size for the first one

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with css

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could someone help me out?

violet briar Apr 29, 2021, 10:28 PM

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I can't find javascript/typescript bundled plugins in pycharm, can anyone help?

digital mango Apr 29, 2021, 11:04 PM

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yea its the one above this @formal geode

formal geode Apr 29, 2021, 11:04 PM

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ok

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so your sizing the HTML with the CSS?

digital mango Apr 29, 2021, 11:05 PM

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yea sry im kinda new to this

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yea

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someone told me that ur supposed to do that?

formal geode Apr 29, 2021, 11:05 PM

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well, is it the whole <html> or a <div>

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and I do see an error in the CSS

digital mango Apr 29, 2021, 11:06 PM

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no im trying to get the picture to change size with css

formal geode Apr 29, 2021, 11:06 PM

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ok

digital mango Apr 29, 2021, 11:06 PM

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formal geode and I do see an error in the CSS

wait were should i fix?

formal geode Apr 29, 2021, 11:06 PM

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figure-1 {
width:50px;
height:50px
}

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there is no ; in height:50px

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it should be heigth50px;

digital mango Apr 29, 2021, 11:07 PM

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so height:50;

formal geode Apr 29, 2021, 11:07 PM

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*height:50; yeah

digital mango Apr 29, 2021, 11:08 PM

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k let me try that

formal geode Apr 29, 2021, 11:08 PM

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k

digital mango Apr 29, 2021, 11:08 PM

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yea na it didn't change

formal geode Apr 29, 2021, 11:09 PM

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ok,

digital mango Apr 29, 2021, 11:09 PM

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formal geode k

does it not work with figures?

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its a figure within a section

formal geode Apr 29, 2021, 11:09 PM

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well, lets see, HTML or HTML5

digital mango Apr 29, 2021, 11:09 PM

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HTML5 i think

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bc isn't that the new defalt?

formal geode Apr 29, 2021, 11:10 PM

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yeah

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I dont think figure is in HTML5, I have never seen that in common CSS

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Try styling the image or whatever with an inside style, aka style="/* whatever*/" inside the tags

digital mango Apr 29, 2021, 11:11 PM

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alr

formal geode Apr 29, 2021, 11:11 PM

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incase its not supported in HTML5

digital mango Apr 29, 2021, 11:11 PM

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and how do i determine the position?

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of the image?

formal geode Apr 29, 2021, 11:13 PM

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you can use <center> tags and css padding-top: 0px;, that's how I usually do it.

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or any padding css command

digital mango Apr 29, 2021, 11:13 PM

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yea but wut if i want to line the photos up side by side?

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wait do i just determine it with

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top:0x;

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right:0x;

formal geode Apr 29, 2021, 11:14 PM

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no

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padding-top: 0px;

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and

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padding-right: 0px;

digital mango Apr 29, 2021, 11:14 PM

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k

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is ther a left and bottom?

formal geode Apr 29, 2021, 11:14 PM

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yes

digital mango Apr 29, 2021, 11:15 PM

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k thx man

formal geode Apr 29, 2021, 11:15 PM

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any way you need it, its there

digital mango Apr 29, 2021, 11:15 PM

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thx man

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god bless

formal geode Apr 29, 2021, 11:15 PM

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also there is a padding: 0px; for all sides

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your welcome, anytime

formal geode Apr 29, 2021, 11:39 PM

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@digital mango WAIT

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another way to fix your problem is doing

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.figure-1 {
width:50px;
height:50px
}

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insted of

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*instead

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figure-1 {
width:50px;
height:50px
}

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But I hope you got it figured out

digital mango Apr 29, 2021, 11:44 PM

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formal geode <@!662920643087564813> WAIT

oh thx man

formal geode Apr 29, 2021, 11:44 PM

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your welcome

violet briar Apr 29, 2021, 11:50 PM

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this is my first time with js and I am really confused, I edit the js code in pycharm, but what next, how do I run it?

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I can't find "open in browser" option

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and no, I don't use HTML/CSS, I am just learning the basics of JS first

vale shuttle Apr 30, 2021, 1:03 AM

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Hey guys, I'm new to development but I know enough to piece together stuff. I've been playing with writing my own REST api with flask, and was wondering: Is there some good resource or guide explaining the basic "best practise" way to set up a fully functional website, which details kind of a basic structure? Like, is it all just separate containers running nginx and flask (or nodejs or whatever), and how would you structure the back end of a basic web site/service from scratch?

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 1:08 AM

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vale shuttle Hey guys, I'm new to development but I know enough to piece together stuff. I've...

You mean, best way to have wiki for API?

vale shuttle Apr 30, 2021, 1:10 AM

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no, more in terms of, let's say I want to build my whole back end from scratch. Set up a server, write the API endpoints, run webservers, etc.. Is there somewhere you learn how to build that environment in the most up to date way?

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basic security no-no's, what kind of services that might be separated into different containers so if one goes down not everything breaks etc

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or is it just service providers all have their own infrastructure, or builds one custom for a client?

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 1:17 AM

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Um, you are looking to read several books at least:

I know, there is book for django that cover most of your needs. Set up server, write api end points, run web servers, basic secirity and etc

You are also mentioned microservice architecture, it is separated book to read about this

If one goes down, not everything breaks. You are looking for a devops stuff now, like kubernet

vale shuttle Apr 30, 2021, 1:18 AM

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Ok I'll see what I can find. I know about kubernetes though i've never set it up.

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 1:18 AM

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Three separated topics basically

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I would recommend conncentrating on first topic

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Reading books about django from beginner to professional level

vale shuttle Apr 30, 2021, 1:20 AM

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basically, I got into python to write a discord bot for my csgo surf server, so it would fetch server records and user info from the sql server. I wanted to serve them to my website and then I got into flask. Wrote a separate API so that the bot and my website could fetch the data. But I just know I'm not structuring things the "right" way, and want to learn more.

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if i wanted to scale it up, have a login page and maybe some web apps, I would have to consider a basic setup before clustering with kubernetes

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 1:22 AM

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Do you have already existing mysql database

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Which you have access for

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Already filled with data and working in some service

vale shuttle Apr 30, 2021, 1:23 AM

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yeah I have a VPS running ubuntu, with a stack with apache mariadb and all that jazz for the main site and flask serving the sql data

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that not really the point, I just want I flowchart of sorts i guess. some pointers into structuring a full back end for something that could run many different web apps

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maybe not the right place to ask

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 1:25 AM

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May be, you are looking for docker compose

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It helps packing with easy into multiple containers

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Makes your whole infrastructure, as one small script to build everything

vale shuttle Apr 30, 2021, 1:26 AM

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no i mean the architecture, never mind what i use for clustering or load balancing

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just, what is the common setup when running a basic back end serving both html and webservices and api endpoints

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i think i need to think about this and word it better

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 1:28 AM

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Sounds like good book about chosen framework

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They cover stuff like that

vale shuttle Apr 30, 2021, 1:29 AM

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who cover?

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 1:31 AM

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Authors of framework books explain common good setups for the chosen framework

vale shuttle Apr 30, 2021, 1:31 AM

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oh right, like in general

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i'll see what i can find, thanks 🙂

vestal hound Apr 30, 2021, 1:44 AM

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vale shuttle no, more in terms of, let's say I want to build my whole back end from scratch. ...

this is kind of hard to learn

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in isolation

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usually you get that kind of knowledge/experience

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from working somewhere

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but feel free to ask specific questions

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I'll answer whatever I can

vale shuttle Apr 30, 2021, 1:45 AM

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yeah suspected that. I've worked in IT but never with development and certainly not infra on that level

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i dunno, I just found this guide to flask environment that was kind of illuminating, it breaks down the basics of how in a flask framework you have to set up all the parts yourselves whereas in django you have kind of a basic setup to work with, database and all..

vestal hound Apr 30, 2021, 1:47 AM

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yeah

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all that is on the app level though

vale shuttle Apr 30, 2021, 1:49 AM

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i guess I just cant shake the feeling that some where some one drew a box diagram with a basic structure of all the different containers and then I could figure out how to construct my own site in a way where i wouldn't over look a huge security flaw or a stupid solution 😛

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 1:51 AM

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vale shuttle i guess I just cant shake the feeling that some where some one drew a box diagra...

That is why I like Django.
We have even command to check for stupidity in security settings there.

python manage.py check --deploy

vale shuttle Apr 30, 2021, 1:51 AM

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😄

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 1:52 AM

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Plus books are great, explaining common bad solutions for django

vale shuttle Apr 30, 2021, 1:52 AM

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and that's probably what i SHOULD be spending my time with but i'm just curious i guess

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i like the idea of building everything from scratch

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it gives me so much insight when i need to troubleshoot IRL

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 1:53 AM

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It is great for first experience

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You appreciate more, framework with everything inbuilt

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After that

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I started with flask/quart microframeworks and only after that jumped to rails from the box django

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Flask gives more freedom. That what should be learned first I guess

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To try different solutions on your own

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Before jumping to think in box solutions

vale shuttle Apr 30, 2021, 2:00 AM

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vestal hound I'll answer whatever I can

Thanks man. A broad qeastion: everyone seem to talk about running nginx and flask or or other stuff instead of the old apache/php, stuff. Is it normal to serve everything from small light weight webservers in containers in loadbalanced clusters etc? Would a huge website like twitter or fb use just a huge farm of containers running nginx or something like that?

spiral loom Apr 30, 2021, 3:03 AM

#

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Badly need help haha

wooden ruin Apr 30, 2021, 3:44 AM

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spiral loom

How much experience fo you have with html, css and JS?

dusk portal Apr 30, 2021, 4:40 AM

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inland oak Do you have already existing mysql database

yo

native tide Apr 30, 2021, 6:59 AM

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Can someone help me I just added a user model and this happend

#

#

models.py ```from django.db import models
from .utils import get_manga_info
from django.contrib.auth.models import AbstractUser

class User(AbstractUser):
pass

class UserReader(models.Model):
user = models.OneToOneField(User, on_delete=models.CASCADE)

# def __str__(self):
#     return self.user.username

class MangaTracker(models.Model):
url = models.URLField(unique=True)
title = models.SlugField(max_length=255, blank=True)
img = models.URLField(max_length=255, blank=True)
description = models.TextField(blank=True)
latest_chapter = models.FloatField(blank=True)
latest_chapter_link = models.URLField(blank=True)
latest_upload = models.SlugField(max_length=255, blank=True)
latest_views = models.IntegerField(blank=True)
reader = models.ForeignKey(UserReader, on_delete=models.CASCADE)

def __str__(self):
    return self.title

def save(self, *args, **kwargs):
    title, description, img, latest_chapter, latest_chapter_link, latest_upload, latest_views = get_manga_info(self.url)
    self.title = title
    self.description = description
    self.img = img
    self.latest_chapter = latest_chapter
    self.latest_chapter_link = latest_chapter_link
    self.latest_views = latest_views
    self.latest_upload = latest_upload
    self.latest_views = latest_views
    super().save(*args, **kwargs)

native tide Apr 30, 2021, 7:04 AM

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native tide

i feel like the problem here is how I made migrations and migrated

native tide Apr 30, 2021, 7:40 AM

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native tide i feel like the problem here is how I made migrations and migrated

then just delete all the migrations folder and the db file and try to migrate it again or do you have a non-local db?

wispy quail Apr 30, 2021, 7:55 AM

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vale shuttle Thanks man. A broad qeastion: everyone seem to talk about running nginx and flas...

You can run Flask with Apache btw, the cheapest option for hosting and serving your flask app

quasi relic Apr 30, 2021, 8:03 AM

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hey guys , need help with flask ... so my problem is when I link css with html and then if I use in my template url_for(‘static’ , filename=‘style.css’) for some reason it doesnt work , any suggestion?

nimble dawn Apr 30, 2021, 8:04 AM

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i am making a login page

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i want to store the data entered by the user

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like it should come to me

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how can i do that

vestal hound Apr 30, 2021, 8:48 AM

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vale shuttle Thanks man. A broad qeastion: everyone seem to talk about running nginx and flas...

hm

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that's actually

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a few things that are related but distinct

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so

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first, horizontal scalability is important

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second, full VMs are often too heavyweight

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that leads to stateless, and therefore fungible, containers that can be easily replicated

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which is why you see container orchestrators (most common example: k8s)

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and, yes, load balancing plays into that

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Flask vs PHP is more a choice of backend technology

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same for nginx and Apache with regard to server choice

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though they can be combined

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that said, the trend nowadays is towards IaaS/PaaS

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where all these things are managed for you

quasi relic Apr 30, 2021, 8:56 AM

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nimble dawn like it should come to me

what do you mean it should come to you? if it is to store the data on your pc then you should create a database

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 9:04 AM

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apperently datetime.datetime is not serializable

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found funny solution to work around

#

    def serialize(date):
        return repr(date).replace('datetime.datetime(', '').replace(')', '')

    def deserialize(json_value):
        return datetime.datetime(
            *[int(item) for item in json_value.split(",")])

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literally one string solutions ;b

quasi relic Apr 30, 2021, 9:06 AM

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what are you creating?

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dark

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 9:08 AM

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mm, Django REST API to work with user database

after user login I create token? to which repeated access can be used
the token I generate from Dictionary with several values (ID to database, user email, and few other parameters) and encode with SHA256

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I wished to have also datetime.datetime stored in token

quick cargo Apr 30, 2021, 9:08 AM

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You can just use Orjson or Ujson for this

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Which supports this serialization

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 9:09 AM

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huh.

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looks good

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I would have to encode/decode to SHA256 with few additional strings then

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but I guess it should be better may be

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PyJWT jsonified and encoded for me

quasi relic Apr 30, 2021, 9:11 AM

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sounds good 👌 so is it necessary to encode email and username as well?

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isnt enough with password?

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 9:11 AM

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mm... only password is encoded in order to be stored into database

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this encoding I use to generate tokens, which are just temporal things for cookies I guess

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email is encoded into token there as additional layer to verify token after decoding

unreal knot Apr 30, 2021, 9:13 AM

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Can you install a package to a live server while its running?

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pip installing something to the venv

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 9:13 AM

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sure

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deployment is fully in my hands

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VPS

unreal knot Apr 30, 2021, 9:15 AM

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but the only way to intall a package is to activate the venv ( which I'm assuming is already running ) wouldn't that interupt it?

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 9:15 AM

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to be honest, I don't understand, why would you wish to install package during runing server

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what's the point?

quasi relic Apr 30, 2021, 9:15 AM

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dark have you been using flask or started with django?

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 9:15 AM

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you will not be able to run tests

unreal knot Apr 30, 2021, 9:15 AM

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because I am adding a contact form page

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 9:15 AM

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quasi relic dark have you been using flask or started with django?

used before Flask, currently working with Django

unreal knot Apr 30, 2021, 9:16 AM

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and i dont want to bring the sevrer down

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 9:16 AM

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can you run a copy of server?

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just test it there

unreal knot Apr 30, 2021, 9:16 AM

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ive done it locally

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it works

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just need to upload the files to the production server but never have done it with a file that needs a package the server doesnt have

quasi relic Apr 30, 2021, 9:17 AM

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inland oak used before Flask, currently working with Django

so should I use sessions or just leave it , or depends on the website?

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 9:18 AM

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quasi relic so should I use sessions or just leave it , or depends on the website?

I know nothing about your project

quasi relic Apr 30, 2021, 9:20 AM

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inland oak I know nothing about your project

ye just asking whats your opinion ..

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 9:21 AM

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my answer: not enough information to answer

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usually sessions exist in some form or another anyway
but I have no idea what you are doing there, so not sure if you need

quasi relic Apr 30, 2021, 9:22 AM

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inland oak my answer: not enough information to answer

lets say I just started with flask a month ago , dont need to go in depth just wanted to know something about sessions

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I know this is not the Q. channel but it happened a lot that noone answered me so I tried to ask you

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 9:24 AM

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if you want your user being travelling between pages with memorized login state

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you should use sessions

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if all your users are guests and authentication is not needed or any other information about user between pages switching, you can skip sessions

quasi relic Apr 30, 2021, 9:26 AM

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inland oak if all your users are guests and authentication is not needed or any other infor...

alright, appreciate it thanks 🙏 so basically for a website where is no user information stored it is useless

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 9:26 AM

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in 98% cases, yes

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but sometimes websites secretly autologin users to temporal user accounts

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in this case it would be still needed

quasi relic Apr 30, 2021, 9:31 AM

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okay thank you 😎

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 9:34 AM

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all right, all is left to find encoding decoding algorithm which works in both ways

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HS256

nimble dawn Apr 30, 2021, 9:42 AM

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quasi relic what do you mean it should come to you? if it is to store the data on your pc th...

How to do that

vestal hound Apr 30, 2021, 10:32 AM

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inland oak apperently datetime.datetime is not serializable

ISO format?

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 10:36 AM

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vestal hound ISO format?

can it be deserialized back?

#

serialized = repr(date).replace('datetime.datetime(', '').replace(')', '')
deserialized = datetime.datetime(*[int(item) for item in serialized.split(",")])

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I currently do in this way)

vestal hound Apr 30, 2021, 10:45 AM

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inland oak ```py serialized = repr(date).replace('datetime.datetime(', '').replace(')', '')...

WTF

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no

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 10:45 AM

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vestal hound WTF

>>> a = datetime.datetime.utcnow()
>>> print(a)
2021-04-30 10:45:00.660008
>>> b = a.isoformat()
>>> c = dateutil.parser.isoparse(b)
>>> print(c)
2021-04-30 10:45:00.660008
>>>

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thanks, it works

vestal hound Apr 30, 2021, 10:45 AM

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inland oak thanks, it works

you can use datetime.datetime.fromisoformat

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 10:46 AM

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huh, even better

vestal hound Apr 30, 2021, 10:46 AM

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inland oak ```py serialized = repr(date).replace('datetime.datetime(', '').replace(')', '')...

this is p mad LOL ngl

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but it’s okay we’ve all been there

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 10:46 AM

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giggles

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agree

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thanks for pointing to the right way

glad patrol Apr 30, 2021, 12:07 PM

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ca someone tell me how to hide label text after 2 seconds in asp.net webforms

spiral loom Apr 30, 2021, 12:34 PM

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wooden ruin How much experience fo you have with html, css and JS?

Im just a newbie

pearl magnet Apr 30, 2021, 12:52 PM

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difference between react and vue? I've been looking into both recently

native tide Apr 30, 2021, 1:04 PM

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how

verbal tiger Apr 30, 2021, 2:00 PM

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Hi guys, I have a Rails app where I use devise as authentication solution, I would like to create a simple python Flask API and authenticate the API with the preexisting user table, what would be the approach, any advise?

serene prawn Apr 30, 2021, 2:02 PM

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verbal tiger Hi guys, I have a Rails app where I use devise as authentication solution, I wou...

Wdym by "devise as authentication solution"?

verbal tiger Apr 30, 2021, 2:03 PM

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serene prawn Wdym by "devise as authentication solution"?

devise is ruby gem for users authentication

serene prawn Apr 30, 2021, 2:04 PM

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Well, i'm not familiar with it 🙂

verbal tiger Apr 30, 2021, 2:07 PM

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serene prawn Well, i'm not familiar with it 🙂

👍

serene prawn Apr 30, 2021, 2:08 PM

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I mean how can i possibly help you if you're using some ruby specific library 😉

violet briar Apr 30, 2021, 2:12 PM

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do y'all think it's better to use node.js for back end or is it better to use python?
or should I use both?

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 2:12 PM

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violet briar do y'all think it's better to use node.js for back end or is it better to use py...

Python for back, Node.js for front

serene prawn Apr 30, 2021, 2:12 PM

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violet briar do y'all think it's better to use node.js for back end or is it better to use py...

It depends on what you're more comfortable with

violet briar Apr 30, 2021, 2:12 PM

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serene prawn It depends on what you're more comfortable with

I like both

serene prawn Apr 30, 2021, 2:12 PM

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inland oak Python for back, Node.js for front

How would you use node.js for front? 😅

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 2:13 PM

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React ;b

serene prawn Apr 30, 2021, 2:13 PM

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js is not node.js

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 2:13 PM

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hmm, really? I thought it uses node

violet briar Apr 30, 2021, 2:13 PM

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well, flask can handle requests asynchronously, right?

#

if not, I'll have to use node.js

serene prawn Apr 30, 2021, 2:13 PM

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violet briar well, flask can handle requests asynchronously, right?

It can, but it's not async

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 2:13 PM

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violet briar well, flask can handle requests asynchronously, right?

a bit of trouble it has with it

#

better to choose some Async framework

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Sanic or something
Closest analog to Flask is Quart

violet briar Apr 30, 2021, 2:14 PM

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serene prawn It can, but it's not async

how does netflix, for example, use flask to handle requests

serene prawn Apr 30, 2021, 2:14 PM

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It can handle concurrent requests but it doesn't use asyncio

violet briar Apr 30, 2021, 2:15 PM

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so I won't have to make my program asynchronous? flask will handle it for me? good

serene prawn Apr 30, 2021, 2:15 PM

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I would recommend fastapi over flask though

violet briar Apr 30, 2021, 2:16 PM

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is it as easy as flask?

serene prawn Apr 30, 2021, 2:16 PM

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It's similar

violet briar Apr 30, 2021, 2:16 PM

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I want something that has similar syntax and structure to vanilla python, not something that has its own syntax like django

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 2:16 PM

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serene prawn I would recommend fastapi over flask though

btw, FastAPI is rails out of the box type?

serene prawn Apr 30, 2021, 2:17 PM

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inland oak btw, FastAPI is `rails out of the box` type?

More like flask with extra features

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 2:17 PM

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urgh. I like rails

serene prawn Apr 30, 2021, 2:17 PM

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You still have to choose and orm if you want to use one 🤔

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 2:18 PM

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I'll prefer to override rails to suit me ;b

serene prawn Apr 30, 2021, 2:18 PM

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I'm not familiar with rails

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 2:18 PM

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I mean

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Django has everything out of the box

#

like you are already train on rails

serene prawn Apr 30, 2021, 2:18 PM

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I know but it's awful for api's

violet briar Apr 30, 2021, 2:19 PM

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wait, what's the difference between web applications and backend applications?

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a simple google search says node.js is better for web applications, where python is better for backend applications

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 2:19 PM

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huh

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 2:20 PM

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violet briar a simple google search says node.js is better for web applications, where python...

looks hard to understand

violet briar Apr 30, 2021, 2:20 PM

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https://www.google.com/search?q=python+or+node.js+for+backend

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first result snippet

serene prawn Apr 30, 2021, 2:21 PM

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js isn't node 😅

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 2:21 PM

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Looking at their tables

serene prawn Apr 30, 2021, 2:21 PM

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What's this

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 2:21 PM

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tbh, no idea

serene prawn Apr 30, 2021, 2:22 PM

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There's like just unrelated columns really

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 2:22 PM

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yeah

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 2:22 PM

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violet briar https://www.google.com/search?q=python+or+node.js+for+backend

give us your first link

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we have different ones

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due to different advertisement settings

violet briar Apr 30, 2021, 2:22 PM

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https://www.guru99.com/node-js-vs-python.html

Node.js Vs Python: What's the Difference?

What is Node.js? Node.js is a server-side platform built on Google Chrome's JavaScript Engine. It uses a non-blocking, event-driven I/O model. It allows developers to create data-intensive real-time a

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 2:22 PM

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for our google account/ip address

violet briar Apr 30, 2021, 2:23 PM

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just use an adblocker and VPN xd

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 2:23 PM

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I guess I am not familiar enough with Node.js

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to say anything

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I only worked closely with python

serene prawn Apr 30, 2021, 2:24 PM

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What you would use with node for api though?

violet briar Apr 30, 2021, 2:24 PM

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I don't know, I am still learning it

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 2:24 PM

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the biggest thing I did there, I was forced quickly to find how to deploy React app to production ;b

nimble dawn Apr 30, 2021, 2:25 PM

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What is react used for?

serene prawn Apr 30, 2021, 2:25 PM

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nimble dawn What is react used for?

Frontend applications

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 2:25 PM

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nimble dawn What is react used for?

basically for GUI of web site

nimble dawn Apr 30, 2021, 2:25 PM

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Ok

inland oak Apr 30, 2021, 2:25 PM

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with all backend logic moved to Python APIs for example

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React only fetches results

nimble dawn Apr 30, 2021, 2:26 PM

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Currently is react needed

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To learn

serene prawn Apr 30, 2021, 2:26 PM

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nimble dawn Currently is react needed

It depends

nimble dawn Apr 30, 2021, 2:26 PM

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Ok

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I will just focus on css and Python for now

verbal tiger Apr 30, 2021, 2:34 PM

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serene prawn I mean how can i possibly help you if you're using some ruby specific library 😉

LOL I understand, what about authenticating users on flask api with the preexisting users table?

violet briar Apr 30, 2021, 2:34 PM

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so ye, I like both python and node, but I am still wondering if it's a good idea to use both in back end

serene prawn Apr 30, 2021, 2:34 PM

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verbal tiger LOL I understand, what about authenticating users on flask api with the preexist...

Depends on type of authentication 😅

verbal tiger Apr 30, 2021, 2:35 PM

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serene prawn Depends on type of authentication 😅

email and password

serene prawn Apr 30, 2021, 2:35 PM

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And what you want to return really?

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Plus why would you handle it in separate app?

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When you have rails app

verbal tiger Apr 30, 2021, 3:02 PM

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serene prawn And what you want to return really?

The return would be user's company information like sales orders status, items and debts, very simple; I would like to have separate because I already have an internal flask API to make some data analysis (in this case I dont use authentication because it is only accessible internally)

serene prawn Apr 30, 2021, 3:23 PM

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I think you can use sqlalchemy as an orm and fetch data you need from your tables 🤔

boreal elk Apr 30, 2021, 3:24 PM

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hy can u gimme a whole code for webpage

versed python Apr 30, 2021, 3:39 PM

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boreal elk hy can u gimme a whole code for webpage

https://bootstrapmade.com/

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merry olive Apr 30, 2021, 4:55 PM

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Hello, I was in #help-corn and they said my question should fit more over here, if anyone can help me 😮

native tide Apr 30, 2021, 5:41 PM

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hey, is it possible to make a wtforms custom validator that can receive 2 arguments?

rich warren Apr 30, 2021, 5:56 PM

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Hey guys I'm building a webapp with flask and I want to do kind of like a catalogue but my FE skills are terrible... any recommendations of what kind of css framework to use to hide that fact???

quick cargo Apr 30, 2021, 6:10 PM

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Tailwindcss makes it pretty easy

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very nice framework to use

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or Bootstrap templates

rich warren Apr 30, 2021, 6:33 PM

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Thanks, I'm not planning to use nodejs in my project so I guess I'll have to go for the classic bootstrap

quick cargo Apr 30, 2021, 6:33 PM

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you dont actually need nodejs for tailwind

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you can just use the CDN link

rich warren Apr 30, 2021, 6:34 PM

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https://tailwindcss.com/docs/installation#using-tailwind-via-cdn they don't recommend it, just for demos

quick cargo Apr 30, 2021, 6:35 PM

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unless you really want to customise it, its fine

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but yes

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you will get better build sizes using the CLI

loud depot Apr 30, 2021, 6:38 PM

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hi it's a general question i'm using javascript (even though its a python discord but any help will be appreciated.

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So this is a very simple login form

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I'm using php to submit the form data and it takes the user to the new page

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    let e_user = "<?php echo $_GET["username"] ?>";
    let e_pass = "<?php echo $_GET["password"] ?>";

</script>```

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This is what i'm using to get the data in JS varaibles.

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It is basically a login to an admin portal.

thorn igloo Apr 30, 2021, 6:40 PM

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but isn't tailwind like css rules but classes tho? wouldn't you be building components from scratch with it?

loud depot Apr 30, 2021, 6:41 PM

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It will have only 1 password and 1 username. I want it to check if the entered password matches the password i want to set for it. What is a safe way to do it ?

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I can just use conditionals to check for-example if e_user == "admin101" and e_pass == "somepassword" but that will be in the source file.

thorn igloo Apr 30, 2021, 6:43 PM

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loud depot I can just use conditionals to check for-example if `e_user == "admin101"` and `...

you can store the details in a database

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remember to always store the passwords as hashes for security reasons

loud depot Apr 30, 2021, 6:44 PM

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I don't know how to use node.js in web development , i just use simple js or php. Is there a place to learn it ?

rich warren Apr 30, 2021, 6:44 PM

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@thorn igloo yes, tailwind seems to look for classes in the markup to add some styles but some of them uses javascript that's why the nodejs 😦

loud depot Apr 30, 2021, 6:44 PM

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I mean, to connect to mysql ill need the mysql.js right

thorn igloo Apr 30, 2021, 6:44 PM

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php is a backend language no? I think you can connect a database to it. it's not a nodejs specific thing

loud depot Apr 30, 2021, 6:45 PM

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hmm i'll check

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oh thanks found this https://www.w3schools.com/php/php_mysql_intro.asp

rich warren Apr 30, 2021, 6:45 PM

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*any *language can connect to a DB tho

loud depot Apr 30, 2021, 6:45 PM

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didn't know php could do that

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thanks

quasi relic Apr 30, 2021, 6:58 PM

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can anyone tell me how to clear a sqlalchemy database from tables?

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looking for an answer but nowhere can find

terse vapor Apr 30, 2021, 7:18 PM

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Is it ok to set dashboard as home page for clinic web?

raven apex Apr 30, 2021, 7:19 PM

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can someone tell me why my website doesn't open when i send it to other people

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but works when i open it

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ping if reply

thorn igloo Apr 30, 2021, 7:26 PM

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quasi relic can anyone tell me how to clear a sqlalchemy database from tables?

do you want to drop all tables?

calm plume Apr 30, 2021, 7:26 PM

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Using Python, what's the easiest way to implement website search that searches through HTML and markdown files?

thorn igloo Apr 30, 2021, 7:28 PM

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raven apex can someone tell me why my website doesn't open when i send it to other people

sounds like you're probably hosting it locally

thorn igloo Apr 30, 2021, 7:29 PM

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calm plume Using Python, what's the easiest way to implement website search that searches t...

what do you mean by search through html and markdown?

calm plume Apr 30, 2021, 7:30 PM

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thorn igloo what do you mean by search through html and markdown?

I'm making search, and I need it to find whatever the person is searching for. And I'm searching through html and markdown files for that text

calm plume Apr 30, 2021, 7:30 PM

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raven apex can someone tell me why my website doesn't open when i send it to other people

Did you deploy the website?

thorn igloo Apr 30, 2021, 7:32 PM

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calm plume I'm making search, and I need it to find whatever the person is searching for. A...

maybe beautifulSoup might help you but I'm not sure if it supports markdown

calm plume Apr 30, 2021, 7:32 PM

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Thank you!

terse vapor Apr 30, 2021, 7:45 PM

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thorn igloo sounds like you're probably hosting it locally

make sense, prob 127.0.0.1 or localhost

raven apex Apr 30, 2021, 7:55 PM

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thorn igloo sounds like you're probably hosting it locally

i probably am(i'm new to flask and python)

raven apex Apr 30, 2021, 7:55 PM

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calm plume Did you deploy the website?

how does one......

calm plume Apr 30, 2021, 7:56 PM

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raven apex how does one......

What did you make the website with?

raven apex Apr 30, 2021, 7:56 PM

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python

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i used flask

calm plume Apr 30, 2021, 7:56 PM

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And that's the url in the search bar when you're on the website?

raven apex Apr 30, 2021, 7:57 PM

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wdym?

terse vapor Apr 30, 2021, 7:57 PM

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show us ur url

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like the url u get access with

raven apex Apr 30, 2021, 7:57 PM

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it was something like this http

terse vapor Apr 30, 2021, 7:58 PM

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no wonder why

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thats ur local machine

raven apex Apr 30, 2021, 7:58 PM

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o

terse vapor Apr 30, 2021, 7:58 PM

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so u can only access with ur computer

raven apex Apr 30, 2021, 7:58 PM

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right

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so i needa make it public?

terse vapor Apr 30, 2021, 7:58 PM

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u can use pythonanywhere or google cloud

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or something

raven apex Apr 30, 2021, 7:59 PM

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i'm trying to run this on python only

pure gull Apr 30, 2021, 7:59 PM

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guys, is python excellent for back-end web dev (with intent of linking that backend to android or ios apps), or is it better I consider .net or java or nodejs or the like? I'm new to all these languages anyways ;p

raven apex Apr 30, 2021, 8:00 PM

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idk i'm new to this

terse vapor Apr 30, 2021, 8:00 PM

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raven apex i'm trying to run this on python only

ik, so use the platform to host it

raven apex Apr 30, 2021, 8:00 PM

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terse vapor ik, so use the platform to host it

pls explain

terse vapor Apr 30, 2021, 8:00 PM

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https://www.pythonanywhere.com/

Host, run, and code Python in the cloud: PythonAnywhere

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u register an account and put ur code into it

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jbdkOlf4cY

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raven apex Apr 30, 2021, 8:01 PM

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do u have to pay?

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thanks for ur help

violet briar Apr 30, 2021, 8:16 PM

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do y'all think I should learn node.js or js first? I don't know much about HTML/CSS and I am not interested in them for now, but I won't using JS for server-side stuff that much either

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are the concepts I learn in node.js all usable to js (excluding server-side concepts of course)?

summer echo Apr 30, 2021, 8:23 PM

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Honestly, is js better than python for web development?

quick cargo Apr 30, 2021, 8:30 PM

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well it depends, use what ever language you prefer on the backend

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on the frontend you cant use Python (no brython is not a option) so you kinda gotta go with JS or TS

native tide Apr 30, 2021, 8:34 PM

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Hi does some ond usd pythonanyehere

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I want to test my scriot from python on there

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To see how it works

wary trench Apr 30, 2021, 8:39 PM

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guys i got a question. Does anyone know if i can "wait" for a respose (certain text or popup) in python selenium?

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like if i want to signup in a website and i have multiple emails and i want to try them one after another

wooden ruin Apr 30, 2021, 8:49 PM

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violet briar do y'all think I should learn node.js or js first? I don't know much about HTML/...

node.js is awesome and has frameworks for both front-end and back-end. (vuejs > react btw). however, it's best that you have a solid understanding of HTML, CSS, and basic JS before moving on to node.js. once you have a solid understanding, i'd say the choice is up to you whether to start learning front end or backend. if you want to use python, use it in the backend (brython sucks). there are tons of node backend frameworks such as express, fastify, nestjs, nextjs, and nuxtjs

crisp oyster Apr 30, 2021, 9:35 PM

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hello can someone help me real quick. I have to code on a local server with some python. (make a game with python and show it on a webpage) how can I do that? I have already made a server but I don't know how I could show the code. Do I have to make a html file and use a script node to implement the code?

terse vapor Apr 30, 2021, 10:13 PM

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raven apex do u have to pay?

u can choose free version

vestal hound Apr 30, 2021, 11:00 PM

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violet briar are the concepts I learn in node.js all usable to js (excluding server-side conc...

you can just think of Node as something that lets you use JS as a backend language

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historically, JS only ran in the browser.

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so, more or less, yes.

grave star Apr 30, 2021, 11:08 PM

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can webscaping questions go here? specifically why can't I find an element by xpath in selenium when I'm looking right at it? lol

vestal hound Apr 30, 2021, 11:09 PM

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grave star can webscaping questions go here? specifically why can't I find an element by xp...

either your xpath is wrong

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or the element hasn't loaded yet

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well, those are the two most common causes

rustic pebble Apr 30, 2021, 11:12 PM

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Is there a way I can redistribute pods once a new node has been added? I have a node pool of lets say X nodes, and I have made a custom scaler that adds/removes nodes based on certain conditions, but I would also like the pods to be rearranged when a new node is added

grave star Apr 30, 2021, 11:12 PM

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yeah. I thought the element hasn't loaded might be the cause, because that is what happened to me before, but I navigated to the page through the terminal, so I can see it has loaded before using

floodZone = driver.find_element_by_xpath("//*[@id='fz']")

vestal hound Apr 30, 2021, 11:17 PM

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grave star yeah. I thought the element hasn't loaded might be the cause, because that is w...

wait sorry I don't understand

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can you see the element in the actual Selenium driver window?

grave star Apr 30, 2021, 11:17 PM

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yeah

vestal hound Apr 30, 2021, 11:18 PM

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can you find it

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in that window

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using xpath?

grave star Apr 30, 2021, 11:18 PM

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yes

vestal hound Apr 30, 2021, 11:18 PM

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huh.

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🥴

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so

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you can find it from the window

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but not programmatically?

grave star Apr 30, 2021, 11:18 PM

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yeah

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lol

vestal hound Apr 30, 2021, 11:19 PM

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well

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compare

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hm.

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check the page source

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make sure it reflects what you see

grave star Apr 30, 2021, 11:24 PM

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ok, right click inspect shows it, which is where I normally steal the xpath. but view page source shows much less.

vestal hound Apr 30, 2021, 11:29 PM

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grave star ok, right click inspect shows it, which is where I normally steal the xpath. but...

that's Weird

ornate field Apr 30, 2021, 11:32 PM

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"view source" shows you what the server sent. "Inspector" shows you what it looks like "now" (i.e. after client-side Javascript has modified it)

grave star Apr 30, 2021, 11:33 PM

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That's what I thought, which is why I need to use Selenium vice BeautifulSoup, based on my rudimentary understanding of the two lol

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The website I'm looking at is

https://www.mymanatee.org/departments/building___development_services/floodplain_management/floodzone/flood_zone_information_tool ```

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and you can use the generic address they give you, 1112 Manatee Ave W, to search. I'm trying to get the flood zone information.

vestal hound Apr 30, 2021, 11:37 PM

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ornate field "view source" shows you what the server sent. "Inspector" shows you what it look...

yes but

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if you're accessing it through the driver

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it should show the rendered HTML

ornate field Apr 30, 2021, 11:39 PM

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You might have better luck calling the API that feeds that page: https://www.mymanatee.org/gisbads/rest/services/flood/flood/MapServer/0/query?f=json&where=((PRIMARY_ADDRESS LIKE UPPER ('1112%25') OR PRIMARY_ADDRESS LIKE UPPER ('%251112ND%25'))%20AND%20PRIMARY_ADDRESS%20LIKE%20UPPER(%27%25MANATEE%20AVE%20W%25%27))&outfields=PARCEL_ID%2C%20PRIMARY_ADDRESS%2CPROP_CITYNAME%2C%20HASHID&returnGeometry=false&returnTrueCurves=false&returnIdsOnly=false&returnCountOnly=false&returnZ=false&returnM=false&returnDistinctValues=false&returnExtentsOnly=false&orderByFields=PRIMARY_ADDRESS

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To find that, open Developer Tools, click on "Network" then do your search. You'll see that request in the list.

vestal hound Apr 30, 2021, 11:46 PM

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^

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if you can find how the page actually gets the data

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that is often easier

grave star Apr 30, 2021, 11:49 PM

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ok, I see the information I want, I just need to figure out how to get it.

ornate field Apr 30, 2021, 11:49 PM

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awesome - have fun!

grave star Apr 30, 2021, 11:51 PM

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lol thanks. Any reason why Selenium can't access this?

ornate field Apr 30, 2021, 11:51 PM

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I don't know enough Selenium to answer that

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If you want HTML instead of JSON, you can (apparently) change "f=json" to "f=html" in that query string and get an HTML form. Submit the form and the response has the same data, but in HTML.

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Maybe that would be a more comfortable starting point?

grave star Apr 30, 2021, 11:59 PM

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Maybe. API's is something I haven't tried to interact with yet. I do have the Arc API reference up, and can start playing with that. We'll see if I end up in jail or not lol.

ornate field May 1, 2021, 12:01 AM

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With all the references they have published, I think they're happy to have you use it, but yeah - check to see if they have rules and follow those 🙂

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good luck!

grave star May 1, 2021, 12:02 AM

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Thanks again.

grave star May 1, 2021, 12:29 AM

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So I went back a bit in the elements and found:

<iframe src="https://gis-publicportal.s3-us-gov-west-1.amazonaws.com/floodzone.html" width="100%" height="1600px" title="Resident Information Tool address lookup" frameborder="0"></iframe>

I followed that URL and was able to interact with it with Selenium and pull the data I needed.

ornate field May 1, 2021, 12:34 AM

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Sweet!

native tide May 1, 2021, 3:31 AM

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Is front-end dev in python as powerful as other techs like html+css+js or frameworks like ReactJS?

vestal hound May 1, 2021, 4:22 AM

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native tide Is front-end dev in python as powerful as other techs like html+css+js or framew...

well

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that's kind of a weird question because

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React is still JS

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and

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well

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there are two ways to use Python in the frontend, basically

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one is Brython (transpiles to JS)

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I can't remember the name of the other one but it's a Python interpreter running in JS, basically

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both are p immature

inland oak May 1, 2021, 4:37 AM

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what about using Jinja stuff with Ajax/JQuery stuff?

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will it be a reasonable equivalent?

fathom prism May 1, 2021, 4:38 AM

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anyone familiar with gunicorn and memory management? I'm curious why when when a gunicorn with sync workers w/ gthreads respond to requests, they make threads that don't seem to ever get recycled until another request comes in.

is this the intended effect? I'd imagine the threads would just die immediately after they're used to free memory.

inland oak May 1, 2021, 4:39 AM

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fathom prism anyone familiar with gunicorn and memory management? I'm curious why when when a...

I am not familiar with it enough
But I know that deleting and creating threads is heavy task, that made async solutions more popular in comparison to threading
it is possible that it is intended effect in order to cut time for those tasks

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also, heavy applications can be reaallly long time initialized, it can be also intended in order to cut down this time as well

fathom prism May 1, 2021, 4:42 AM

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that is interesting @inland oak . That does sound like it makes some sense. I had a server with 9 workers and 25 threads on a 4core/16gb ram machine and it was chewed up quick

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i ended up just forcing processes to reset after "x" amount of requests

inland oak May 1, 2021, 4:43 AM

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fathom prism that is interesting <@!370435997974134785> . That does sound like it makes some ...

in some frameworks, like Quart it is possible to rewrite a little bit their framework code, to limit amount of PoolThread workers to suit yourself better
as far as I know, standard value at least in asyncio 5*amount of core processsors for worker limit

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it is possible to regular this value in Quart at least, with a little bit diving into their code and rewriting

native tide May 1, 2021, 4:43 AM

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vestal hound that's kind of a weird question because

aaaaah
it was actually focused on Django and Flask
I meant if it was worth learning them or if should I learn other tech like a JS framework for web development

inland oak May 1, 2021, 4:46 AM

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fathom prism i ended up just forcing processes to reset after "x" amount of requests

from concurrent.futures import ThreadPoolExecutor
import multiprocessing
pool = ThreadPoolExecutor(max_workers=multiprocessing.cpu_count() * 5)

in quart framework utils.py file for run_sync function

fathom prism May 1, 2021, 4:47 AM

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yea gunicorn allows a user to change the workers as well

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they recommended 2*cpu + 1

inland oak May 1, 2021, 4:47 AM

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sounds reasonable

fathom prism May 1, 2021, 4:48 AM

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yea, the thread portion is the one i had to experiment with i suppose

inland oak May 1, 2021, 4:48 AM

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fathom prism yea, the thread portion is the one i had to experiment with i suppose

some simple DDOS attack makes possible to overload server with enough of amount of new created threads for requests

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having them limited to the level your server can process in a queue is a good idea

fathom prism May 1, 2021, 4:52 AM

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so im still a bit of a noob with threads, but if I'm running "top" and a process is showing 4 threads, is that really 4 OS threads although gunicorn is using gthreads?. Or is it 4 threads where each thread is running gthread on top of it

vestal hound May 1, 2021, 4:54 AM

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native tide aaaaah it was actually focused on Django and Flask I meant if it was worth learn...

well

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depends on what you want to do.

vestal hound May 1, 2021, 4:54 AM

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fathom prism so im still a bit of a noob with threads, but if I'm running "top" and a process...

yes

fathom prism May 1, 2021, 4:55 AM

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@vestal hound , thanks. I obviously have to re-read my dinosaur OS book

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:p

vestal hound May 1, 2021, 4:55 AM

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fathom prism <@!171929073063297024> , thanks. I obviously have to re-read my dinosaur OS book

huh why

fathom prism May 1, 2021, 4:56 AM

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mostly because the concept of such as "virt" and "res" is still a bit foreign to me

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and how that ties in with threads

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like if I see a process with 4 threads, and each one shows 1.0% MEM usage, I'm assuming that's 1.0% of the process, or is it 1.0% x 4 within the process?

vestal hound May 1, 2021, 4:57 AM

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hm

fathom prism May 1, 2021, 4:57 AM

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since threads share memory with a process?

vestal hound May 1, 2021, 4:57 AM

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I actually don't know the answer to that

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rather outside my sphere of expertise

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but

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I would assume that it's the former???

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I have no idea 🥴

inland oak May 1, 2021, 4:58 AM

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Perhaps

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regular thread is created within some function, completes the task and is usually finished or something

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Flask is meant to be scaled with creating your multiple applications running at the same time

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I assume Gunicorn makes exactly that

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each Gunicorn thread contains independent running full copy of your application

vestal hound May 1, 2021, 5:00 AM

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inland oak Perhaps

uh

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from what I understand

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Gunicorn uses green threads

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like async/await so process-managed threads except it preempts them

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but

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each OS thread

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can have its own green threads

inland oak May 1, 2021, 5:02 AM

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sounds interesting

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If only I knew it before that

fathom prism May 1, 2021, 5:02 AM

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yea, that's my understanding.

gunicorn forks a process, and say we have 4 workers, thats

(main process) -> 4 child processes -> x threads

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it also has the option for "preloading" flask into the main process

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or if you don't preload, all 4 processes (workers) will have a copy of the app

native tide May 1, 2021, 5:16 AM

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vestal hound depends on what you want to do.

what about just Front-end

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pithink

inland oak May 1, 2021, 5:18 AM

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native tide what about just Front-end

sounds like React framework

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javascrypt, preferably used typescript

native tide May 1, 2021, 5:22 AM

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thaaanks @inland oak

lost heath May 1, 2021, 9:56 AM

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any1 know how i can access 'name'

native tide May 1, 2021, 9:56 AM

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can django run python code while the website is running, or does it run all the code at the beginning?

lost heath May 1, 2021, 10:05 AM

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lost heath any1 know how i can access 'name'

the html looks like this

thorn igloo May 1, 2021, 10:30 AM

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native tide can django run python code while the website is running, or does it run all the ...

django runs in a python environment, so yes, you can do other python related stuff while it's running

native tide May 1, 2021, 10:32 AM

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thorn igloo django runs in a python environment, so yes, you can do other python related stu...

So polling a database is possible, right?

thorn igloo May 1, 2021, 10:32 AM

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yes

native tide May 1, 2021, 10:33 AM

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Do i need a host for making my website "online" if i made it with django?

thorn igloo May 1, 2021, 10:38 AM

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yes

native tide May 1, 2021, 10:55 AM

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anyone here who knows a bit about wtforms?

thorn igloo May 1, 2021, 10:58 AM

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native tide anyone here who knows a bit about wtforms?

what's your issue? i've used them before

native tide May 1, 2021, 11:00 AM

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thorn igloo what's your issue? i've used them before

im trying to make a custom validator with 2 inputs, but i cant find anything in the documentation to make a validator with 2 inputs

thorn igloo May 1, 2021, 11:00 AM

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what do you mean by two inputs?

native tide May 1, 2021, 11:00 AM

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def validate_subreddit(self, subreddit, userid):

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like this

thorn igloo May 1, 2021, 11:01 AM

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are these coming from the form or externally?

native tide May 1, 2021, 11:01 AM

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it only works with 1 input so: def validate_subreddit(self, subreddit):

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both form the form

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atleast i think so i tried to use hiddenfield for userid\

thorn igloo May 1, 2021, 11:02 AM

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from one form, from one input?

native tide May 1, 2021, 11:02 AM

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its like this:

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class SubredditForm(FlaskForm):
    userid = HiddenField()
    subreddit = StringField('Subreddit', validators=[DataRequired()])

thorn igloo May 1, 2021, 11:03 AM

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ok, i have a question, what's the userid field for? given that it's hidden

native tide May 1, 2021, 11:04 AM

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i need to do a query and i need the userid for it

thorn igloo May 1, 2021, 11:04 AM

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you want to query inside a validator?

native tide May 1, 2021, 11:05 AM

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yeah, but i need 2 things in the query the userid and the subreddit

thorn igloo May 1, 2021, 11:08 AM

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native tide yeah, but i need 2 things in the query the userid and the subreddit

ok, uhm, have you tried giving the function itself two arguments?

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the validator function

native tide May 1, 2021, 11:08 AM

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yeah that didnt work

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it tries to run the validator with just subreddit then

thorn igloo May 1, 2021, 11:09 AM

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dont you just want the value from userid?

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you're confusing me now

marble spade May 1, 2021, 11:09 AM

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I have the following div:

<div id="texts"></div>

And it outputs the following image:

Screen_Shot_2021-05-01_at_9.09.40_pm.png

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Is there a way for me to get each of those images & texts into a seperate box?

native tide May 1, 2021, 11:10 AM

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thorn igloo dont you just want the value from userid?

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userid needs to be userid.data btw

thorn igloo May 1, 2021, 11:10 AM

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native tide userid needs to be userid.data btw

yes, so why are you passing userid instead of userid.data?

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in the chooseuser function

native tide May 1, 2021, 11:11 AM

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that was a mistake, but it still doesnt work, because the validator inputs this: validate_subreddit(subreddit) instead of validate_subreddit(subreddit, userid)

thorn igloo May 1, 2021, 11:13 AM

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native tide that was a mistake, but it still doesnt work, because the validator inputs this:...

bro, you can do this: subreddit = StringField('subreddit', validators=[your_validator(userid = userid)]

native tide May 1, 2021, 11:13 AM

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okay thanks bro im gonna try that

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will it work?

thorn igloo May 1, 2021, 11:16 AM

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native tide will it work?

that's the idea, in theory it should

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also, how are you defining your validators? in the form or separately?

native tide May 1, 2021, 11:16 AM

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cant run the app.py to start flask

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its in the class of the form

thorn igloo May 1, 2021, 11:17 AM

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ok, if it's in the class form should'nt you be able to like access all the fields in there?

native tide May 1, 2021, 11:18 AM

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i think it is because it isnt in a function or something

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thorn igloo May 1, 2021, 11:19 AM

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you dont need to specify it like that if it's a class method, wait, let me show you what i'm talking about

native tide May 1, 2021, 11:19 AM

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okay

thorn igloo May 1, 2021, 11:23 AM

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native tide okay

native tide May 1, 2021, 11:24 AM

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thanks bro im gonna try it

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thankss its working now

thorn igloo May 1, 2021, 11:28 AM

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alright

wheat skiff May 1, 2021, 12:26 PM

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hi, i really need help with building a chat app in django. i built already the site now i need to make the chat with socket or django channels. can some one help me with it?
im very new to django so it is very difficult for me to do this app
(i tried lots of tutorials but its hard for me to understand when i cant ask questions)

toxic echo May 1, 2021, 12:47 PM

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what is more used in django, function or class based views?

wheat skiff May 1, 2021, 12:50 PM

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class based views

toxic echo May 1, 2021, 12:52 PM

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thanks

opaque rivet May 1, 2021, 1:24 PM

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toxic echo what is more used in django, function or class based views?

depends on the developer. there's no difference between them. I prefer functional

toxic echo May 1, 2021, 1:25 PM

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oh i see thanks

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i will try both then

wheat skiff May 1, 2021, 2:27 PM

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wheat skiff hi, i really need help with building a chat app in django. i built already the s...

can some one help me with it please?

tribal pewter May 1, 2021, 3:42 PM

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wheat skiff hi, i really need help with building a chat app in django. i built already the s...

you should probably start with the basics of Django before really jumping to the more advanced stuff

glad patrol May 1, 2021, 3:53 PM

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i have this page when i enter information in it then if i go back using browser and then come back to same page again all the fields are empty
how do i save them so if i close the browser of come back to page all the entered inforamtion comes auto

nimble dawn May 1, 2021, 4:39 PM

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For what sql is used?

hoary brook May 1, 2021, 4:51 PM

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nimble dawn For what sql is used?

SQL is a type of database, it's used for example in web development to manage users.

nimble dawn May 1, 2021, 4:51 PM

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Ok

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Thanks

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So if i want to store data entered by a user i have to create a database for the website

summer shoal May 1, 2021, 4:53 PM

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Generally, yes, but there are lots of different options

manic frost May 1, 2021, 4:59 PM

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nimble dawn For what sql is used?

SQL is a query language. It's used for manipulating data in relational databases.

terse vapor May 1, 2021, 5:33 PM

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nimble dawn So if i want to store data entered by a user i have to create a database for the...

sqlalchemy

manic frost May 1, 2021, 5:45 PM

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nimble dawn So if i want to store data entered by a user i have to create a database for the...

You don't have to create a database database. For example, you could have a directory with files, where each file has the user ID as its name and store some JSON data about the user. It's a database, even if a primitive one.

If you want to make a sightly more complicated database, you should check out SQLite. It's a database management system that uses a single file for storage. There's a tutorial by Corey Schafer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd-0G0MigUA

opaque rivet May 1, 2021, 6:36 PM

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wheat skiff hi, i really need help with building a chat app in django. i built already the s...

Django channels is the option. What are you stuck on?

wooden ruin May 1, 2021, 6:56 PM

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wheat skiff hi, i really need help with building a chat app in django. i built already the s...

django channels is the way to go. daphne is officially supported by django and makes deploying semi-easy

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do know that channels uses redis

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so if you want to scale, use redis

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if you are just deploying for fun, you can stick with the in memory channel layer

silver totem May 1, 2021, 6:57 PM

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Ey up

calm plume May 1, 2021, 6:57 PM

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Imo, React is only good for SPAs. If you're a react person and want to make multi-page, use Next.

silver totem May 1, 2021, 6:58 PM

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I don’t like react.

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And i do a lot of react.

wooden ruin May 1, 2021, 6:58 PM

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i like vue router for things like SPA's

noble spoke May 1, 2021, 6:58 PM

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Why dont you like it

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Asking as a beginner who finds it enjoyable

calm plume May 1, 2021, 6:59 PM

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React isn't bad

noble spoke May 1, 2021, 6:59 PM

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I like it a lot but i dont make complicated stuff

wooden ruin May 1, 2021, 6:59 PM

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they are also a good learning opportunity, personally i prefer vue over react but they each have their advantages and drawbacks

calm plume May 1, 2021, 6:59 PM

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I hate pure React though

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I will use Next if I have to do something React-like

wooden ruin May 1, 2021, 7:01 PM

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is it better to deploy your react/vue app standalone using something like express, or deploy it directly to your api?

silver totem May 1, 2021, 7:01 PM

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noble spoke Asking as a beginner who finds it enjoyable

State management is convoluted using contexts. Global state is iffy at best. It still uses a vdom which is slower than not using it, and there’s enough evidence that it isn’t a good solution anymore. It’s also not compiled into js. It’s just transpiled thanks to Babel and still carries an overhead that isn’t necessary. But for all the shit I give react - it’s popular and well tooled. So it’s not necessarily the devils butthole, but I just think there’s better alternatives if you don’t mind the lack of ecosystem.

toxic umbra May 1, 2021, 7:01 PM

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Hello

calm plume May 1, 2021, 7:01 PM

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I kinda want to learn Vue

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Since I've seen some Vue code, and it seems to be much more like HTML than React is.

wooden ruin May 1, 2021, 7:02 PM

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i like vue because each component has its own html, css, js, and vuex/vue router is straighforward

manic frost May 1, 2021, 7:02 PM

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well, vue has vuex, which is similarly a giant global variable

wooden ruin May 1, 2021, 7:02 PM

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ts support is horrible tho for vue

silver totem May 1, 2021, 7:03 PM

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Honestly imma sound like a shill, but try Svelte.

calm plume May 1, 2021, 7:03 PM

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Next ain't bad.

silver totem May 1, 2021, 7:03 PM

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Or elm.

manic frost May 1, 2021, 7:03 PM

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I tried svelte, it's nice

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but I haven't built anything medium/large in it

calm plume May 1, 2021, 7:03 PM

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Honestly, React is popular, but it's not really the best

manic frost May 1, 2021, 7:03 PM

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svelte seems to have great TS support

calm plume May 1, 2021, 7:03 PM

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Really?

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Sounds nice

silver totem May 1, 2021, 7:04 PM

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manic frost svelte seems to have great TS support

I think it supports ts by default. As a base.

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They encourage it afaik.

wooden ruin May 1, 2021, 7:04 PM

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nestjs uses ts by default right?

manic frost May 1, 2021, 7:04 PM

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svelte also has single-file components with scoped CSS, just like vue

calm plume May 1, 2021, 7:04 PM

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Imo, JS has enough frontend frameworks.

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But it's kinda lacking in good backend ones

wooden ruin May 1, 2021, 7:05 PM

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calm plume Imo, JS has enough frontend frameworks.

^^^^

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nodejs has so much support its crazy

calm plume May 1, 2021, 7:05 PM

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JS has nothing equivalent to something as good as Django from what I've seen

silver totem May 1, 2021, 7:05 PM

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That’s why I love it. It’s fast, it’s got a great concept of state, great way of handling performance and most of all it doesn’t relegate stuff to virtual Dom and instead just neatly compiles down to JS

wooden ruin May 1, 2021, 7:06 PM

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django is a batteries included kinda framework, so if you don't need the features that django has you have the option of going for something lighter like flask

calm plume May 1, 2021, 7:06 PM

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calm plume JS has nothing equivalent to something as good as Django from what I've seen

I just wish there was a JS version of Django.

wooden ruin May 1, 2021, 7:06 PM

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like the django session and authentication middleware, that fact that it's all taken care of for you, is crazy

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@manic frost can i dm u abt smthn pls

manic frost May 1, 2021, 7:06 PM

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why?

calm plume May 1, 2021, 7:06 PM

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wooden ruin like the django session and authentication middleware, that fact that it's all t...

Django is absolutely amazing

silver totem May 1, 2021, 7:06 PM

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I remember the days long gone when I used turbogears. Anyone remember that??

calm plume May 1, 2021, 7:07 PM

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The amount of work put into it is phenomenal

wooden ruin May 1, 2021, 7:07 PM

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manic frost why?

that guy who was in general talking about using tor or whatever dm'd me saying he was 12 which is against tos

manic frost May 1, 2021, 7:07 PM

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You should contact @hexed spoke

wooden ruin May 1, 2021, 7:07 PM

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ok thank you

calm plume May 1, 2021, 7:08 PM

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Is svelte worth learning?

manic frost May 1, 2021, 7:08 PM

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totally

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It has a great interactive tutorial:
https://svelte.dev/tutorial/basics
although it gives too much attention to animations for whatever reason, so you can skip that if you want.

silver totem May 1, 2021, 7:09 PM

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calm plume Is svelte worth learning?

I recommend it.

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#notashill

wooden ruin May 1, 2021, 7:09 PM

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wbt graphql?

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i've also heard people say that passport sucks and all this but is it good for an authentication library?

calm plume May 1, 2021, 7:10 PM

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manic frost It has a great interactive tutorial: <https://svelte.dev/tutorial/basics> althou...

Thank you!

silver totem May 1, 2021, 7:11 PM

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wooden ruin wbt graphql?

What’s your use case for it tho? Graph Ql is great if you provide api as a service, but if you run the front end as well as the backend, then you just tailor your api to give your front end what it wants. Why use graphql and add the overhead when you’re the one designing both sides.

spiral gate May 1, 2021, 7:48 PM

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Hello people, I'm currently working on a project developing a website and have some basic questions about that topic/would like to get some general advice on further steps. I hope that this is something you can ask about on this server 🙏🏽

silver totem May 1, 2021, 7:49 PM

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spiral gate Hello people, I'm currently working on a project developing a website and have s...

Shoot

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What questions?

spiral gate May 1, 2021, 7:55 PM

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so first of all, I work with a group of people who have no experience in programming whatsoever and I tasked them to write a front end html script for our website. After that a web developer friend of mine told me, that if they only write in html they won't be able to acces data from the backend script/data base. I did some research and saw, that in django you can use {{}} to do some simple coding in the html files, but I was wondering if that is something smart to do or that you usually would write functions elsewhere and add them to the html file. I myself am a beginner at coding but i have to manage a group of non programmers rn.

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At the moment i'm learning on how to connect the db to the website, which seems fairly simple

silver totem May 1, 2021, 7:57 PM

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Well.. from what I know about Django is that it will generate html based on templates. Which is the {{}} syntax you mention. So really it’s - Server>template > html> front end. But all interactivity is done via JavaScript or at worst - forms via submit\post.

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What is the goal there? If you can share that

spiral gate May 1, 2021, 7:58 PM

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sure

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uhm