discord-bots

[heavy folio]

yes

[final iron]

Wdym meme? Like using Reddit API to take memes from a subreddit?

[fickle turret]

yes

[final iron]

Also wdym rank

[fickle turret]

leveling system

[final iron]

Isn't a leveling system really complicated?

[fickle turret]

just do something basic

[slate swan]

nice I started like 2 weeks ago and I was kinda happy ngl cus I was learning stuff fast

But rip

[fickle turret]

actually nvm, ignore leveling for now

[final iron]

Also what's a good way to store values ie having a different prefix for every server?

[maiden fable]

Well, I started bot making with Discord Bot Maker. But then, I thought it's too basic. So I looked into making bots, first with js, then started seriously with Python

[fickle turret]

you should use an if statement to check if link is none or not and return if it is

[fickle turret]

A database, PostgreSQL or MongoDB are usually recommended

[heavy folio]

but i want it to check if link contains https://discord.com/ or http://discord.com or not, else send the error message

[final iron]

So nothing like a JSON file?

[fickle turret]

Above that, check if the user even entered the link, if they did then apply this check

[heavy folio]

i did that already

[fickle turret]

Json files aren't databases, they can be corrupted and aren't persistent, you can use mongodb, it stores data in bson which basically json format, not exactly sure about psql's json

[final iron]

Alright

[fickle turret]

Shouldn't have raised a NoneType error if it was handled

[heavy folio]

hold up

[light night]

sqlite works really well too lol

or postgresql

[fickle turret]

yeah, better than json

[light night]

yep well bye folks 👋

[fickle turret]

Cya

[heavy folio]

i did it in the if statement itself

still the same error

  if not link:
    if not link.startswith("http://") or link.startswith("https://"):
      https_embed = discord.Embed(title="Command Error!", description="your link needs to begin with `http` or `https`!", color=discord.Color.random())
      await ctx.reply(embed=https_embed)
    else:
      link_embed = discord.Embed(title="Command Error!", description="this command requires for a link to work!")
      await ctx.reply(embed=link_embed)

[fickle turret]

why are you checking if the link startswith if it is none, aren't you supposed to check if it is not none

[heavy folio]

oh yea

[maiden fable]

... If you want to apply for the message content intent, you cannot use it for command handling purposes; they will explicitly deny you the intent. Therefore, effectively everyone must move over to Slash Commands for their bot to function.

From that gist

Discord has been exposed

[crisp spindle]

Anyone here for discord.py help???

[maiden fable]

Sure

[crisp spindle]

first of all can u send me discord.py server link?

[maiden fable]

well, just saying, dpy will stop working from April 2022

[pale turtle]

Oh no

[maiden fable]

discord.gg/dpy

[pale turtle]

Danny quits

[maiden fable]

@pale turtle now u can make that bot vars PR of yours haha

[crisp spindle]

so what will happen after that?

[maiden fable]

U won't be able to use discord.py

[crisp spindle]

then any other way to make bots in python?

[maiden fable]

!pypi hikari

[unkempt canyon]

hikari v2.0.0.dev100

A sane Discord API for Python 3 built on asyncio and good intentions

[slate swan]

Rest in peace discord.py

[maiden fable]

Snekcord is also there

[dim vapor]

what are they talking about eod d.py?

like what should we move to then?

[crisp spindle]

ok so d.py help can i get channel id by user input of channel name?

like if u give

security

[slate swan]

Take a look at this: https://gist.github.com/Rapptz/4a2f62751b9600a31a0d3c78100287f1

[pale turtle]

I want to cry

[crisp spindle]

then can i get the id

[dim vapor]

okk

[gritty flame]

what happened

[maiden fable]

Same

[maiden fable]

https://gist.github.com/Rapptz/4a2f62751b9600a31a0d3c78100287f1

[gritty flame]

now just sum it up for me

[maiden fable]

Dude calm down

[pale turtle]

Me have to go djs

[maiden fable]

Hmm

[pale turtle]

We had a great run here 😢

[maiden fable]

Yup

[gritty flame]

what happened

sorry

[maiden fable]

Language

[dim vapor]

so u think someone will folk and redo?

[maiden fable]

But it won't be the same tbh

[pale turtle]

No idea

[gritty flame]

bruhh i said sorry what happened

[dim vapor]

yes

[gritty flame]

😐

guys just tell me

[maiden fable]

Breh

[slate swan]

Just read

[gritty flame]

no

[maiden fable]

Then dont

[gritty flame]

i just woke up

[slate swan]

Then don't complain and insult people here

[maiden fable]

Yup

[pale turtle]

For real, the only one who can match Danny level and understanding of discord api, ,is Joe

[languid jungle]

!warn 534403455201312793 Swearing at other members is unacceptable. PLease re-read our #rules and #code-of-conduct .

[unkempt canyon]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied warning to @gritty flame.

[maiden fable]

Huh?

[gritty flame]

ok

[maiden fable]

U know, Danny wasn't even a coder... He was a doctor or something

[fossil pumice]

you can read the faq section in the discordpy server
hopefully that helps@gritty flame

[slate swan]

The understanding for the discord API is not so complicated

[wheat prawn]

Python bot written is discord.py, discord.py called of, soon message intent will be introduced. will this bot keep working?

[slate swan]

Yes

[maiden fable]

Yup

[slate swan]

Because it's not over 100 servers

[maiden fable]

Read #dev-contrib

[gritty flame]

i did

[slate swan]

Message intent only affects verified bots

[maiden fable]

But I'mma shut down my bot :c

[slate swan]

Move to another language :D

[fossil pumice]

discord py isn't dead yet
you can make use of it with third party component libs

and wait till a contender comes out

if you wanna take the gamble*

[visual island]

make our own lib

[neat salmon]

Do we really want to keep using Discord though?

[languid jungle]

We will still need to enable message intent. (i think???)

[maiden fable]

Yes

[maiden fable]

But no way to enable it in code

[gritty flame]

ik.

[fossil pumice]

yea you do

[pale turtle]

You can easily enable messages intents if the bot is not verified

[languid jungle]

We can do it

[maiden fable]

How?

[slate swan]

[languid jungle]

yep

[pale turtle]

Here comes andy lol

[fossil pumice]

write a handler for message_content in the intents class?

[wheat prawn]

me too own a bot, and it has some games, i am wondering how would it be playing mini games using slash commands, ugh >_<

[maiden fable]

Ikr

Slash
Commands
Suck

[slate swan]

Time to leave

[maiden fable]

Nah

[pale turtle]

Yeah it's trash

I have no idea about javascript

[fossil pumice]

I personally hate slash commands

at the moment they're slow bloated and unresponsive on both desktop and mobile

[maiden fable]

@pale turtle we can just do something else in Python itself

[maiden fable]

Ikrrr

[fossil pumice]

that's not even addressing the fact that you have a 50 command limit

[fossil pumice]

i start typing / and it takes forever to fuzzy find my command

[maiden fable]

And big bots with over 100 commands... How would they work 🤦

[slate swan]

Discord is no more fun without dpy and I don't think working for something like dc is any good

[pliant gulch]

I'm rewriting my private wrapper rn maybe pushing it out soon next week

[fossil pumice]

[maiden fable]

Same

[pliant gulch]

[wheat prawn]

yes slash command bad, it is slow, sometimes unresponsible, literally anyone can use it, no permission checkksss, damn

[maiden fable]

There are permission checks....

[fossil pumice]

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/jT2peeQ40_V8YvqP7poEi0PURWT1eVEd9pKTDm7pDa8/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/336642776609456130/881075581570154506/unknown.png this is literally danny

[maiden fable]

True

@wheat prawn haha it's all fine. I know the feeling u r experiencing rn. The weird one. U can come back :D

[wheat prawn]

mhm

[maiden fable]

So what do u all think u gonna do now?

Also, anyone here got an idea what I can do about my AI API I made for my discord bot?

[wheat prawn]

make own, custom implementation of slash command, or switching to js

[pale turtle]

Maybe djs or something else in Python

Does JavaScript have circular imports shit?

[maiden fable]

Lmao

[visual island]

I think... No

[valid perch]

Likely move to hikari tbh

[pale turtle]

What is hikari

[visual island]

A lib like discord.py

[maiden fable]

!pypi hikari

[unkempt canyon]

hikari v2.0.0.dev100

A sane Discord API for Python 3 built on asyncio and good intentions

[maiden fable]

But it doesn't have that feel tbh. I think I'mma leave bot making for the foreseeable future

[visual island]

yeah, I'm currently planning to make whatsapp wrapper, cause discord's sucks

[maiden fable]

Huh

They also have one?

[visual island]

yeah

[maiden fable]

Can u send a link in DMs?

[visual island]

sure

[slate swan]

No more migration to other libs. Thanks dpy, the support server and this channel

[maiden fable]

Yes

[slate swan]

Me too @visual island Thanks :)

[upbeat otter]

Hey guys, how do i check if a person has a specific role or not

[valid perch]

Fair enough, the effort is gonna be meh

[maiden fable]

I can send u

[valid perch]

!d discord.Member.roles

[unkempt canyon]

discord.Member.roles

roles```
A [`list`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/stdtypes.html#list "(in Python v3.9)") of [`Role`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api.html#discord.Role "discord.Role") that the member belongs to. Note that the first element of this list is always the default [‘@everyone](mailto:'%40everyone)’ role.

These roles are sorted by their position in the role hierarchy.

[slate swan]

is there any way to throw slash commands or bypass?

[upbeat otter]

its roles?

and if i want to specify a number of roles?

[valid perch]

Thats the roles they have, you can check if your role object is in that list

[upbeat otter]

should i use a list or a tuple?

[upbeat otter]

oh

ok thanku

[visual island]

[shell wing]

@bot.event
async def on_message(message):
      if message.content.startswith('1') and message.channel.id == 880542597951655936:
            await message.author.send ("I have **given you** the support and the access to __[#880541760995094558](/guild/267624335836053506/channel/880541760995094558/) / [#880541781803036672](/guild/267624335836053506/channel/880541781803036672/)__")
            role = discord.utils.get(message.guild.roles, name="support")
            await message.author.add_roles(role)

Ignoring exception in on_message
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/opt/virtualenvs/python3/lib/python3.8/site-packages/discord/client.py", line 343, in _run_event
    await coro(*args, **kwargs)
  File "main.py", line 42, in on_message
    await message.author.add_roles(role)
  File "/opt/virtualenvs/python3/lib/python3.8/site-packages/discord/member.py", line 777, in add_roles
    await req(guild_id, user_id, role.id, reason=reason)
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'id'
``` need a quick fix pls

[maiden fable]

Why do u eat too many popcorns

[slate swan]

Damn

[maiden fable]

role is None

[pale turtle]

role is None, it couldn't find it

[shell wing]

i did define it

[pale turtle]

Pygame or js?

I am afraid to use js because I am about to learn web development(and c#) using html css and js

And I don't want to get confused

[slate swan]

If we want to make a bot and don't want slash commands, we can't request for message intents just to use normal commands
Discord sucks

[pale turtle]

Just say you are making anti-spam

And some other curse words stuff

[final iron]

Can somebody clarify something for me? When you make the bot command in the brackets what are you supposed to put

[slate swan]

@bot.command()

you don't need to put anything, but you can if you want to

[visual island]

umm, idk

[final iron]

But what does putting things there do

[slate swan]

Ngl even after people say tutorials are bad, I learnt a lot of dpy in starting from yours, carberra, and twt's vids... Thank you :)

[slate swan]

Kotlin?

[quiet rivet]

You can put cmd name, alias, description, help, usage... No need to put anything if you don't need to

[final iron]

Thank you

[pale turtle]

Me don't even know what it is

[maiden fable]

It's a programming language

[pale turtle]

I am more familiar with Js really

[maiden fable]

Like java it's used in Android deving

[pale turtle]

Yeah ofc it is lol

[slate swan]

Let's take it to ot's. I feel like !shh or !mute ..

#ot0-psvm’s-eternal-disapproval

[visual island]

!ssh

[maiden fable]

Lmao

[visual island]

what's ssh

[maiden fable]

Mute

[visual island]

oh

!shh

[tight obsidian]

!shh

[unkempt canyon]

✅ silenced current channel for 4 minute(s).

[tight obsidian]

!unshh

[unkempt canyon]

✅ unsilenced current channel.

[visual island]

oh

i see

[tight obsidian]

anyway... let's get back to something on-topic

[maiden fable]

Ah

[pliant gulch]

[maiden fable]

Isn't that just a simple request using aiohttp or something?

[pliant gulch]

I'm connecting to the discord gateway

[maiden fable]

With a bot instance?

[minor kestrel]

Pls can anyone make me a resume about what is happening with Danny and discord.py?? What do I need to do for ny bot to still work??

[maiden fable]

U can use enhanced discord.py

!pypi enhanced-dpy

[unkempt canyon]

enhanced-dpy v1.7.3.7.post1

A Python wrapper for the Discord API

[valid perch]

Haha, appreciate it

[spring flax]

https://gist.github.com/Rapptz/4a2f62751b9600a31a0d3c78100287f1

[slate swan]

anyone know how to make a on_command_completion that add 1 to a value every time a command is used and when the values reaches then it sends the message and then reset the value? i tried by making this:

commandscount = 0
@client.event
async def on_command_completion(ctx):
    commandscount =+ 1
    if commandscount == 10:
        await ctx.send("**Tip**: prova")
        commandscount - 10

[upbeat otter]

member = message.author
      if member.has_any_roles("Omnivert", "Extrovert", "Ambivert"):

Guys why is this giving me errors?

[neat salmon]

Someone should probably pin a message detailing D.py's future.

Also what worries me is this server's future.

[slate swan]

discord.py is not the only channel in this server you know

[valid perch]

This server will be fine haha

[slate swan]

discord bots*

[neat salmon]

True.

[slate swan]

also, it will remain relevant for anyone trying to use the api or the gateway

i doubt this channel will die

[maiden fable]

!d discord.on_command

[unkempt canyon]

discord.on\_command

discord.on_command(ctx)```
An event that is called when a command is found and is about to be invoked.

This event is called regardless of whether the command itself succeeds via error or completes.

[dense swallow]

Dpy is dying

I don't want it to :(

[dapper cobalt]

This works only if the command has passed all the checks and successfully got invoked.

[slate swan]

i've already read that, it doesn't help me

[minor kestrel]

What is the difference wth discord.py

[slate swan]

then what's the problem

[dapper cobalt]

Try storing the commandscount in a JSON file instead of a variable.

// commandscount.json
{
  "commandscount": 0
}

import json
@client.event
async def on_command_completion(ctx):
    with open("commandscount.json", "r") as f:
      load = json.load(f)
    load["commandscount"] += 1
    with open("commandscount.json", "r") as f:
      json.dump(load, f, indent=4)

    commandscount = load["commandscount"]
    if commandscount == 10:
        await ctx.send("**Tip**: prova")
        load["commandscount"] -= 10
        with open("commandscount.json", "w") as f:
          json.dump(load, f, indent=4)

@slate swan

Wait, I just realized a problem in your code.

Does it send the "Tip: prova"?

[slate swan]

no, that's the problem

[dapper cobalt]

You have commandscount =+ 1 it should be += not =+.

And at the end you have commandscount - 10 it should be -= 10.

[slate swan]

oh ok ill'try with that thank you

[dapper cobalt]

[lament mesa]

ig gotta manually connect to the ws and send http requests

[normal juniper]

Is discord.py Ending?

[slate swan]

It has been discontinued by the original owner yes, but a fork may be created by someone.

[normal juniper]

Thats sad.

[hardy yoke]

read the /topic

[hardy yoke]

you have until April 2022. There's plenty of time an things arern't clear atm at what will replace d.py if anything

[slate swan]

sorry if i disturb you but it says : io.UnsupportedOperation: not writable

[dapper cobalt]

Don't use a JSON file. Just fix the += and -= operations.

[slate swan]

i tried but it doesn't recognize commandscount

wait

idk probrably it is just bugged

[vagrant brook]

Try global commandscount first

[dapper cobalt]

@slate swan

[vagrant brook]

what's the point of pinging me for no reason

[dapper cobalt]

Oh my bad.

[slate swan]

got 2 new errors

[vagrant brook]

No, I mean global commandscount inside the function

[floral crypt]

@commands.has_permissions(manage_messages=True)
async def clean(ctx, member: discord.Member=None, amount=None):
    def check(m):
        return m.author == member

    if amount is None:
        if member is None:
            await ctx.send('Recuerda indicar de quien quieres borrar los mensajes y cuantos.', delete_after=3)
            await ctx.message.delete()
            return
        else:
            await ctx.send('Recuerda indicar el numero de mensajes que quieres eliminar.', delete_after=3)
            await ctx.message.delete()
            return

    else:
        amount = int(amount)
        await ctx.send('Mensajes eliminados.', delete_after=3)
        await ctx.message.delete()
        for channel in ctx.guild.text_channels:
            await channel.purge(check=check, limit=amount) 

Ok my clean command just clean if there arent any messages b4.
Example:
-me
+another person

-hi
+hi
+uwu
+uwu
+uwu
-stop man
+no
-ok
-!clean @+ 4

(Nothing happens)

[karmic sorrel]

global it in def

[vagrant brook]

To register commandscount as a global variable

[slate swan]

a

i got these errors now

[vagrant brook]

No

...

global commandscount

commandscount += 1

[slate swan]

without the = 0 ?

[vagrant brook]

global commandscount is for python to see commandscount as the variable you already defined outside the function

[slate swan]

is that what you mean?

i don't understand

@vagrant brook

[vagrant brook]

global commandscount should be inside the function

[slate swan]

oh

it works

thank you

[spiral mist]

no more discord.py?

bruh

[steep cape]

?

[eager beacon]

welp https://gist.github.com/Rapptz/4a2f62751b9600a31a0d3c78100287f1

[steep cape]

Oh d.py ending

[azure spindle]

everything is

at this point

[spiral mist]

😩

[bitter kite]

How can the bot delete his own command via reaction like here on channel?
Question is what event to use to catch the event upvote.
!e```
print("delte this")

🗑️ (oh no python here)

[serene coral]

@copper quartz maybe pin that gist?

[vagrant brook]

ctx.message refers to the message that invoked the command

[dapper cobalt]

Any errors?

[floral crypt]

Nop

[vocal plover]

if it's gonna be pinned i think it needs a bit more wording around it explaining that it doesnt mean immediate chaos and panic

[floral crypt]

Its on_raw_reaction_add

Or its other variant

[serene coral]

try amount: int = None

[floral crypt]

Ok

But the problem not there I guess

Cuz it deletes if the messages are consecutive and no other messages are after them

So I guess its that

[floral crypt]

Sorry yes

I got an error of a message not found

I think is something about the check

[spring flax]

Question: For the future of discord bots, they are going to all be using slash commands? So the prefix like ! won't be there anymore, but you can mention the bot as a prefix?

[serene coral]

correct

[dapper cobalt]

There are a few ways to bypass message intents restriction and slash commands. First, Discord has mentioned in the Q&A that the bot will be able to get content of messages where they're pinged, that means that you can set your bot's prefix as your bot's mention <@bot_id>. Second, Discord has mentioned also that moderation bots that need the intents for certain features such as chat filter, or anti advertising, are good to go and will get the intents after applying.

[brittle ingot]

To respond to the above. Danny will no longer be updating discord.py. It doesn’t mean the end of it like your bots will die out or anything. It means that you will need to use third party modules to interact with discord as new features come out. most likely someone will pick up the project and continue it. Danny laid some great ground work. We just need someone to pick up the torch and continue the legacy.

[spring flax]

What happens when you get the message intent?

[dapper cobalt]

!pypi dislash.py is a very great package

[unkempt canyon]

dislash.py v1.4.9

A python wrapper for message components and application commands.

[dapper cobalt]

It has buttons, slash commands, menus, and more

[dapper cobalt]

You get content of messages. Which means, you can still use the normal commands, since it's all about getting content of a message, and responding to it.

[spring flax]

so you are not forced to use slash commands?

[dapper cobalt]

@bot.command()
async def hi(ctx):
  await ctx.send("Hello")

Is basically:

@bot.event
async def on_message(message):
  if message.content.lower.startswith("!hi"):
    await message.channel.send("Hello")

[sweet pilot]

how can I send this kind of a message?

[dapper cobalt]

What package are you using?

[sweet pilot]

discord.py is the only matured one right?

or are there any alternatives?

[dapper cobalt]

There are other packages that features interactions since discord.py does not.

I suggest dislash.py

[brittle ingot]

Discord components

[dapper cobalt]

!pypi dislash.py

[unkempt canyon]

dislash.py v1.4.9

A python wrapper for message components and application commands.

[sweet pilot]

heard of that. but is it the one I should use to get the job done?

[dapper cobalt]

Last time I used Discord Components I don't remember that they support context menus. Do they support it now?

[dapper cobalt]

No. Dislash.py is like a "plugin" or an "addon" to your discord.py.

[bitter kite]

Thanks a lot (sorry for ping)

[sweet pilot]

no I mean can it send messages like the one I showed?

[dapper cobalt]

Yes, it supports slash commands.

[brittle ingot]

They support interactions like that and buttons really. Never delved deep into it to learn if they had context menus. Probably not though

There is also a module name discord.ui or something for interacting with the ui potions

[sweet pilot]

so you can send that type of a message using a slash command?

[dapper cobalt]

@client.slash_command()
async def hide(inter):
    await inter.reply("This is hidden to only the author", hidden=True)

[dapper cobalt]

Yes, only replies to interactions can be hidden.

[sweet pilot]

oh right

[brittle ingot]

Wish I knew enough python, I’d pick up the lib honestly. Just to be able to continue it for everyone

[floral crypt]

Np

[wheat nest]

I dont know if someone has read the news...but rapptz stepped back, because Discord wants that all Bots just use the Slash Commands

If you dont agree, would be super cool if you sign this Petition
https://www.change.org/p/discord-inc-don-t-require-slash-commands-for-discord-bots

[crystal fable]

Yes, the official maintainer of discord.py has announced they will be ceasing development.

What does this mean for discord.py?
It will still be usable for the foreseeable future for the features it currently supports. Any additional features that v2 beta (master branch) does not support will have to be sourced from other libraries that extend or implement the featureset you prefer.

Will someone else take over?
There is no official maintainer assigned to take over the project, however there will be and are forks and alternatives, and as time goes, things will settle into a select few choices, so feel free to ask others on preferred forks or libs. These answers will change over time, so I'll not maintain a list here.

Why is this happening?
There's an extensive writeup that I won't be pinning here, but can be found if you ask here or if you visit the official discord.py support server.

Is this the end of discord api support on Python?
Definitely not.

Please remember to keep civil when discussing anything and to avoid spreading any hearsay or abuse.

[sweet pilot]

and you mean buttons and menu's by interaction?

[dapper cobalt]

Buttons, slash commands, menus, and I don't remember what else is there, but yes.

[brittle ingot]

He changed? Last night he said 2.0 wouldn’t be released :/

[crystal fable]

did he? i'll double check then, as i can edit that part

[pale turtle]

For more information

[fierce skiff]

In gist he says he shuts down immediantly. But 2.0 was still in development

[sweet pilot]

then the library that is considered the best for the job is dislash I suppose

[vagrant brook]

I think buttons and menus in discord.py 2.0 works quite fine

Only thing that's missing is slash commands

[pale turtle]

They do

[dapper cobalt]

I can't confirm that. As there might be another packages that I haven't heard about. Tho, this is the best one I've used.

[crystal fable]

it seems you failed to actually read my post in full

[pale turtle]

You mean the part where you say to look in discord.py server?

[sweet pilot]

that's good enuf for me lol. btw I like your nick

[crystal fable]

the part where i explicitly state i'm not pinning that gist

[dapper cobalt]

Thank you! 😄

[river walrus]

So this is how legends die huh

[sweet pilot]

it's a clever one

[pale turtle]

😢

[river walrus]

Question is what happens to Carl bot

[sweet ether]

BRO WHAT!?!?! DISCORD.PY IS BEING DISCONTINUED!!!!!??!?!?!?!?!?!

[vocal plover]

Time to start shilling my discord libs

[crystal fable]

im unable to find any confirmation that he's not going to release v2. if you find one, feel free to ping me with it

[sweet ether]

HOW is no one talking about that!?!?!?!

[vagrant brook]

Isn't everyone talking about that?

[crystal fable]

they are

[sweet ether]

i don't know just saw the news

[crystal fable]

can't help someone unwilling to read

[vocal plover]

The repo is archived, so he cant really get 2.0 to a release stage without committing to it more

[sweet ether]

blooodyyyy heelll!!!!!!

[pale turtle]

Time to start html

[crystal fable]

i see hmm

[pale turtle]

No way I am going to djs

[spring flax]

So now bots like Dyno will be using slash commands once the message intents come out in 2022?

[sweet ether]

wow so 2.0 wont be officially releasing?

[river walrus]

Guess it's time to learn js

[vocal plover]

I cant confirm either way, but from danny himself it seems unlikely

[pale turtle]

um ig Dyno is a big bot so discord will give them messages intents, but for other bots, yeah

[sweet ether]

geeeezz

[sweet ether]

wow, bro this is just too.....

[crystal fable]

@vocal plover ive decided to just edit in a way that doesn't explicitly state it's gonna release then.

[vocal plover]

Its not based on size, rather function, discord will give bots who need access to message content that intent

[spring flax]

so if they get message intents, they will still have to be using slash commands or...?

[vocal plover]

I think for the most part - if not entirely - dyno will go over to slash commands

[crystal fable]

there's a lot of time for that transition tbh

[vocal plover]

even if you dont need to because you have the intent, everyone else will be moving over too, which means if you dont it will be a worse user experience and people will start looking for alternatives

[sweet ether]

woow mann an entire community taking the fall cuz of this

[hoary cargo]

"Therefore, effective immediately, I will be stepping down as maintainer of the project.....The code remains open, so if someone wants to fork it and work with it, then they are free to do so.However, mainline development will cease as of today"

[river walrus]

So prefixes are gone? Only slash commands?

[crystal fable]

thank you for that.

[pale turtle]

Well, if it's used for commands probably no, but they will get messages intents, they are one of the biggest moderational bots against spams or any curse words or stuff like that. For the commands itself, discord will probably force them to use slash commands

[crystal fable]

discord.py still works

[river walrus]

But will soon be out of date

[pale turtle]

I mean prefixes won't be a thing in April

Only / prefix

[peak rune]

they should hire devs to do it for him

[paper bane]

soon is 9 months time

[crystal fable]

please don't ping me for basic commentary

[sweet ether]

shitt man

[vocal plover]

he's a medical professional asa full time job, there's no incentive for him to hire devs and spend his own time if he doesnt feel its worthwhile

[maiden fable]

Hey @river walrus if u still want to use discord.py, u can use enhanced-dpy (that's what I think I am gonna use)

[river walrus]

Discord is stupid to think like that
Imagine a place where all the bots use the same prefix

[maiden fable]

Yes

[vocal plover]

while I dont necessarily share his views on some of the reasons he gave, it's his time and effort being used to maintain it, and its well within his rights to be like "i dont want to deal with this anymore, its not worth it"

[peak rune]

That's A Decent Point but you can still use it after development ceases right?

[river walrus]

I see, thanks

[pale turtle]

Yeah but you have a selection, and than select the bot

[sweet ether]

slash commands would be a pain in servers with 3-4 bots

[maiden fable]

Well, I don't know what's gonna happen with my AI Chatbot, cz it really needs those message content in order to work

[vocal plover]

yeah of course

[sweet ether]

like imagine 3- 4 bots with the exact same command name

how messed up would that be?

[peak rune]

like if you stick to v8/v9 it'll be available.

[vocal plover]

my prediction is that a bunch of people will fork it, and someone will make a good fork that catches on, and then life will resume as normal

[maiden fable]

Yes

But, discord.py (original) is really a huge part of my life and it's gonna be really sad without it

[vocal plover]

it's not like discord.py is gone, just that danny wont be maintaining it

[sweet ether]

sameeee

[hoary cargo]

Imagine the servers with 10-20 bots

[peak rune]

Thats a massive setback For discord bots.

[wild acorn]

hello

[sweet pilot]

wdym?

[sweet ether]

deadass deal breaker to use bots anymore

[hoary cargo]

Fr

[sweet ether]

no, the development of discord.py is discontinued

[peak rune]

no?

[sweet ether]

so, there wont be any mainstream changes

[maiden fable]

Well they will release 2.0

The last version

[peak rune]

No changes at all.

[sweet ether]

are you sure?

[sweet ether]

://

[peak rune]

https://gist.github.com/Rapptz/4a2f62751b9600a31a0d3c78100287f1

[vocal plover]

In danny's repo, doesnt mean someone cant fork it and have that fork become mainstream

[maiden fable]

Yup

[vocal plover]

which will happen, its too widely used not to

[sweet ether]

yeah i've seen that

[sweet ether]

true, lets just hope so

[pale turtle]

I'll just go to html

[vocal plover]

hey on the bright side if discord.py dies then my lib will become popular

[pale turtle]

lol

[peak rune]

so any discord.py bot/tool will stop working?

[vocal plover]

no

[sweet ether]

if there seems no hope in 2 months of time then i'm going js

[sweet ether]

send me the link

[hardy yoke]

90% of questions you may have arre answered by the gist

[peak rune]

LOL

[pale turtle]

Go to js now, and than see what will happen

[vocal plover]

the user friendly one isnt released yet, but github.com/vcokltfre/corded allows for very low level access to the api and little else

[sweet ether]

naah, i dont wanna loose hope this early

[maiden fable]

Well, for me... I will be using enhanced-dpy cz technically, it's just discord.py with some added features

[mild saddle]

add voice then we will talk

[pale turtle]

I have 15,273 messages here. All of them now for nothing

[peak rune]

this is an excuse for me to learn a new language

[mild saddle]

enhanced-dpy is getting 2.0 soon

[vocal plover]

discord.py isnt dead lol

[maiden fable]

Hey @sweet ether! Same for me. I am also not thinking to move away from bot making!

[sweet ether]

how do i check mine?

[peak rune]

im thinking Discord.GO maybe Discord.rst

[vocal plover]

rst is reStructuredText, do you maybe mean twilight-rs or serenity?

[maiden fable]

Hey @vocal plover, is @unkempt canyon accepting PRs for adding more modules to the docs command?

[sweet ether]

yeahh but if push comes to shove then discord.js i'm going

[pale turtle]

Top right the is a search bar, press from and in and enter what needed

[river walrus]

Discord.js is the strongest tho

[peak rune]

no?

[vocal plover]

no clue

[maiden fable]

Nope. U don't need to. You can use enhanced-dpy

[maiden fable]

Ah, ok. Sorry for the ping :c

[peak rune]

Discord.Go is faster If you need speed

[sweet ether]

1.9k lmao

[river walrus]

I mean it is coded in the language that discord is made in

[peak rune]

True

[peak rune]

oh.

[sweet ether]

yeah i know, i guess we'll see in the future

[pale turtle]

Me going to look for a good non-toxic html server -_-

[peak rune]

LMAO

[peak rune]

i know html

im taking a class for it rn

[maiden fable]

Well, that's what I'mma use haha

[river walrus]

Was hoping for discord.cpp eventually tbh

[sweet ether]

wow, so is slash commands supported in dpy right now?

[vocal plover]

why do you keep saying html?

you cant make a bot in html

[sweet ether]

yeahh

[peak rune]

Anarchy C# is fast for discord bots

[reef dock]

no not officially there is a 3rd party lib though

[river walrus]

Aight thanks
Which dlib is fastest tho

[pulsar stream]

first party development is no longer happening

[sweet ether]

yeah i do know that, but just seemed a little funny that dpy is abandoning us in a time of need such as this

[vocal plover]

probably something like serenity, twilight, or libdiscord

[peak rune]

no clue

[sweet ether]

it all makes sense now

[reef dock]

thats why i said 3rd

[vocal plover]

this isnt the reason

its just a coincidence

[maiden fable]

Lmao yes

[vocal plover]

I made an issue asking for it to be renamed so discussions of the discord api and other libs in general could be discussed, there was nothing to do with d.py being unmaintained

[sweet ether]

well, whatever it maybe

[sweet ether]

oooh, but are there any other libs for d bots dev?

any other's that people genuinely use

[vocal plover]

well discord.py is the defacto right now, but I assume in the coming weeks/months that other libs will get more popular

[sweet ether]

yeahh, it's gonna be chaotic as hell

dpy kept everything in order, maintaining a standard for everyone, but i guess that'll change pretty soon

though if people do fork it then things might not be as bad

but chaos, nonetheless

[slate swan]

there's no chaos

first party development abandonment happens with a lot of open source software

[vocal plover]

chaos is only there if you create it, and I'd advise not doing that to prevent, well, chaos

[slate swan]

and one of OSS's greatest virtues is being able to be continued by anyone with knowledge

[crystal fable]

just a heads up, it's this type of speculative assumptions that are a danger to spreading misinformation, so please properly evaluate conclusions you come to or rephrase it as a question to actually confirm things

[slate swan]

personally, I'm quitting the discord bot development scene indefinitely, as I disagree with their current plans and actions through these past years

[inner saddle]

we would have to shift to other langs to make discord bots

[sweet ether]

okay now?

[inner saddle]

unless someone re-creates it

and adds the / feature

[crystal fable]

all good, it wasn't major enough to actually cause a problem, but it's the behaviour i figured would be good to point out for future that's all. thanks for listening tho

[inner saddle]

oof

[crystal fable]

there's multiple forks that already do

[brisk helm]

async def perms_list(self,ctx,rola):
    db = sqlite3.connect("perms.db")
    curosor = db.cursor()
    curosor.execute("SELECT * FROM perms WHERE guild_id = ? AND rola = ?", (ctx.guild.id,rola.id,))
    wynik = curosor.fetchall()
    if not wynik:
        await perms_error(self,ctx,rola)
    else:
        for perms in wynik:
            if perms[1] == "allow":
                allow = "\n".join([f"{perms[1]}"for perms in wynik])
            elif perms[1] == "deny":
                Denied = "\n".join([f"{perms[1]}"for perms in wynik])
            embed = discord.Embed(title="",description=f"**Permissions for {rola.mention}**",color=ctx.author.top_role.color)
            embed.set_author(name=f"{ctx.author} Permss",icon_url=ctx.author.avatar_url)
            embed.set_thumbnail(url=ctx.author.avatar_url)
            embed.set_footer(text="Permissions list")
            embed.add_field(name="Allowd Commands",value=f"{allow}",inline=False)
            embed.add_field(name="Denied Commands",value=f"{Denied}",inline=False)

    
            return await ctx.send(embed=embed)``` How to do if tabel [1] in db have got allow it will print it in allow if deny it will print it in deny

[round dune]

eh will slash commands be the only feature in discord bots on april 2022, like i can still read message event right?

[inner saddle]

really?

[crystal fable]

yep, like enhanced-discord.py, a fork that's been mentioned here a few times already

can't say the name is good tho lol

[brisk helm]

??

[inner saddle]

lets hope for the best

[round dune]

if i can read message i can still make chat commands lol

[inner saddle]

interesting

[chrome edge]

uh

what happened to discord api

conpewsed

[sweet pilot]

what about conflicting slash commands?

[manic wing]

whats the next discord.py

[lament mesa]

What about a dpy pydis fork?

[maiden fable]

enhanced-dpy for me

[vocal plover]

my library

[maiden fable]

😂

[manic wing]

whats that

[bitter kite]

---

New question:
How can I go from ☝️ to \☝️ and vice versa?

So something like:
tostring(☝️) -> point_up
to_emoji("point_up") -> ☝️

TY

[maiden fable]

Hey Alec, I was seeing the source code of your lib. I was seeing the GatewayClient, but it doesn't have any start method. Can u explain what's happening in it?

[vocal plover]

https://github.com/vcokltfre/Corded/blob/master/corded/ws/client.py#L70-L81

[unkempt canyon]

corded/ws/client.py lines 70 to 81

async def start(self) -> None:
    gateway: GetGatewayBot = await self.http.get_gateway_bot()
    limit: SessionStartLimit = gateway.session_start_limit

    limiter = Ratelimiter(limit.max_concurrency, 5, self.loop)

    for shard in self.shards:
        await limiter.wait()
        self.loop.create_task(shard.connect())

    while True:
        await sleep(0)```

[maiden fable]

Oh

GitHub on mobile sucks

[vocal plover]

although corded isnt the lib im working on currently

[maiden fable]

Huh?

[vocal plover]

I'm trying to make a higher level one that can actually be an alternative to discord.py

which i started a few weeks back funnily enough

[maiden fable]

Ah, best of luck with that!

Is it open source already?

[vocal plover]

not yet

[maiden fable]

Oh, ok

[vocal plover]

I want to get to a basic release state first

[maiden fable]

Will it have the same syntax as dpy?

[lament mesa]

So you predicted this?

[vocal plover]

as soon as i can connect to the gateway I'll open it

[maiden fable]

Cool

[vocal plover]

no i just wasnt a massive fan of d.py already

[sweet pilot]

that's super cool bro

[sweet pilot]

y?

[maiden fable]

Well the only thing I can't understand is how do bots connect to the gateaway and send the list of commands and stuff

[vocal plover]

just does things in a way I dont like that much, often internally

for users i think its great - mostly

[manic wing]

what will you change compared to dpy

[vocal plover]

I can't remember all of the changes off the top of my head, but when I release I'll put a list of features and differences

[manic wing]

ok

[lament mesa]

I should learn about design before making my own lib 😂

[sweet pilot]

u mean the code quality and stuff?

maintainability?

[vocal plover]

partially

[crystal fable]

more likely just impl opinion

[maiden fable]

https://github.com/Rapptz/discord.py

It's archived already

[vocal plover]

there are some really convoluted and weird parts of discord.py that i'd like to remove, but thats abolsutely my opinion on it, not a fact that it's messy or whatever

[toxic flint]

So will my program with discord.py continue to work?

[sweet pilot]

wierd as in?

[vocal plover]

yes

[shut ocean]

until it doesn't right

[crystal fable]

dpy is quite clean tbh. but i agree that there's a large amount of implementatin details i don't agree with either. but i think we all kinda get to that point after using a lib for a long time

[vocal plover]

things like calling sorted() on the guild role list every time you access it

[sweet ether]

yes it will but not for long, like if you need your bot to function throughout then make it on slash commands

[dapper cobalt]

[sweet pilot]

ineffieciencies I suppose

[vocal plover]

yeah

[sweet pilot]

what about type hints?

[shut ocean]

I dislike magical typehints

[brisk helm]

Can you send me link to your bot

[vocal plover]

also I'm trying to make it as easy as possible to understand what's going on - in discord.py the http client is a bit hard to read, so I'm trying to make it very readable

[crystal fable]

nope

[toxic flint]

Ahh ok but what even the basic parts of discord.py like async commands and functions, will they stop working?

[chrome edge]

speaking of importance of reading, guess i failed to

thx anyway

[brisk helm]

Why😅

[lament mesa]

Me and capitalism started working on our own wrapper a few days ago....

[toxic flint]

Also, is there a slash command wrapper anywhere?

[sweet pilot]

which often tends to directly propotional to the maintainability

[sweet ether]

and your code wont be getting any updates either, like the 2.0 does have the threads but if discord releases anything such in the future then you'll have to add functionality for that yourself

[chrome edge]

i made a crappy wrapper too

[toxic flint]

For discord.py

[cloud dawn]

You want a wrapper for a wrapper?

[toxic flint]

No, just a wrapper sorry

[chrome edge]

[sweet pilot]

the better readability, the better maintainbility

[golden hamlet]

what is a wrapper

condom wrapper?

[shut ocean]

yeah, the entire bot will stop working, you will have to rewrite it using another library that supports slash commands, and has different methods for everything so your current code won't work

[cloud dawn]

discord.py

[golden hamlet]

oh

[sweet pilot]

!pypi dislash

[unkempt canyon]

Nope.

Package could not be found.

[golden hamlet]

LMAO

[sweet ether]

mfg

[dapper cobalt]

!pypi dislash.py

[unkempt canyon]

dislash.py v1.4.9

A python wrapper for message components and application commands.

[sweet pilot]

oops

[chrome edge]

dislawhut

[toxic flint]

Ok. How long until everything ‘breaks’ ?

[dapper cobalt]

https://dislashpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

[cloud dawn]

Basically you got the bare discord API and it can do a lot but takes long to code so they made that.

[hardy yoke]

just read the gist man

april 2022

[toxic flint]

I read it but when I woke up so didn’t process everything

[hasty iron]

so re-read it

[chrome edge]

how does it 'break'

[shut ocean]

your bot will stop seeing messages

[sweet pilot]

discord decides it
every discord decision that changes the api will bring doom to dpy

[chrome edge]

noted

[cloud dawn]

Took awhile.

[chrome edge]

all hail websocket

[cloud dawn]

How about wait_for tough?

[shut ocean]

discord doesn't want the bot to get messages, only slash commands

[chrome edge]

man

[cloud dawn]

Seems fair.

[chrome edge]

so limitative

[reef dock]

so they're basically killing prefixes

[shut ocean]

nobody asked, but I'm switching to another platform entirely

[cloud dawn]

What? Skype?

[haughty sedge]

Is discord.py being discontinued

[slate swan]

yes

[haughty sedge]

WTF WHY

[shut ocean]

back to irc

[slate swan]

please check the pins

[chrome edge]

not advertising, but vector.io

[sweet ether]

broo why do they even think sooo much about privacy!! like what!!!! this is just discord no one shares their card details here we share memes!!!!

[slate swan]

frustration in the owners life, disagreement with the latest decisions done by discord staff regarding the API

[shut ocean]

we should make opensource discord server that uses the current api

[cloud dawn]

I was thinking about making my own wrapper anyways.

[lament mesa]

You guys know that making telegram bots is a thing 👀

[reef dock]

yes

[dapper cobalt]

I have a telegram bot.

[slate swan]

if you're willing to put up with the bullshit discord is forcing down everyone's throat, I honestly envy you.

[haughty sedge]

Ohh, I never liked Danny (creator of dpy probably, he banned me from this server cuz i was slightly annoying)

[vocal plover]

I'm doing that too

[shut ocean]

do you have a invite for a large friendly python community in telegram?

[cloud dawn]

Can't even find it lool

[haughty sedge]

Atleast discord.py will still be supported as discord api for python

[dapper cobalt]

I think I was in one.

There is one. Just check the Telegram API wrapper.

[cloud dawn]

But to be fair most things are already in discord.py so you can just fork it and edit it.

[chrome edge]

element.io? forgot

[dapper cobalt]

!pypi telegram.py

[unkempt canyon]

telegram.py v0.3.1

An async API wrapper for Telegram bot API in Python

[slate swan]

I have nothing but respect for him.

Over these past years he never accepted donations or was even offered to begin with. Did a sizeable cut of the work alone, managed multiple discord servers regarding development and had to work a stressful job in the medical field

[chrome edge]

👀

[sweet pilot]

@vocal plover are you adding typehints to your wrapper?

[cloud dawn]

He did it for 5 years, i mean that is pretty dedicated.

Almost 6

[hardy yoke]

they're a company that wants to make money one day. obviously they have to care about privacy lol

[chrome edge]

its his hobby though

[sweet pilot]

without accepting or asking for any donations

[untold token]

I really hope that python server would take discord.py and maintain it

[dapper cobalt]

Telegram had slash commands and buttons before Discord did.

[shut ocean]

the domain name is available for sale

[vocal plover]

I like typehints more than @bitter halo

(ok almost as much as fisher because fisher is better than typehints, but typehints are awesome)

[slate swan]

We love you Danny

[chrome edge]

element.io? forgot

[cloud dawn]

So just because it's his hobby we should look over his work

[slate swan]

a hobby can still be extremely taxing to work with.

[sweet ether]

arghhhhh!!!!! it's called imagine a place cuz you can only imagine it

[hardy yoke]

irc had slash commands 20+ years ago it's not a new concept

[untold token]

because there are countless good developers here than can improve the library

[chrome edge]

yeah respect his work

[untold token]

Hello panda

[cloud dawn]

Hello

[sweet pilot]

lol. whos that btw 🥲

[lament mesa]

If discord cares they would have done it.

[shut ocean]

slash commands are cool, the bad part is that the bot can only see the slash commands and do nothing else

[cloud dawn]

I mean i could prob make my own wrapper but it'd just take awhile.. lol

[vocal plover]

fisher is friend, not food A staff member here, and one of my friends

[chrome edge]

not as hard as imagined

[shut ocean]

it's not wrappable

[vocal plover]

The hard bit of making an api wrapper is implementing all the tedious but easy bits, not the actual http/gateway logic, which is about a day's work

[chrome edge]

yeah

[untold token]

discord won't

[chrome edge]

(copy paste copy paste)

[lament mesa]

Yeah

[untold token]

discord is already maintaining discord API

[shut ocean]

you can't wrap the new api in a way that makes old bots work, so everybody will have to rewrite all bots anyway

[untold token]

so they won't take this burden

[sweet pilot]

if everyone is going to make a wrapper, the energy will be so spreaded out. if we concentrate on one wrapper. it's turn out better than ever

[sweet ether]

i guess i'll fork it and make changes to it that i feel that i actully need

[cloud dawn]

But to be honest Discord did screw the bot devs a bit lol
I mean imagine Python is a pretty big community, imagine what will happen to djs lol

[vocal plover]

its stuff like being willing to spend hour upon hour writing async def get_gateway_bot(self): ...

[untold token]

man I remembered the amount of people I helped with discord.py

good old times

[haughty sedge]

Ohhh

[untold token]

it was my first advanced lib in python

[sweet ether]

yeah first they take away the verified bot dev badge and now this

[sweet ether]

samee

[dapper cobalt]

Djs has slash commands implemented so

[vocal plover]

I dont agree with some of danny's choices with discord.py, but yeah I have a huge amount of respect for the amount of work he put into it for ~6 years

[untold token]

the badge thing was fair

[cloud dawn]

The verified badge thing was a good thing that they removed it imo

[sweet ether]

they golden

[sweet ether]

whyyyyyyy

[cloud dawn]

It's not a competition.

[chrome edge]

yeah

[sweet ether]

it does feel good though doesn't it

[vocal plover]

the badge just ended with elitism and "i wont use your bot unless you have the badge" stuff

[untold token]

people made bad bots that were abandoned later just for the the badge

[vocal plover]

not good for a bot ecosystem

[dapper cobalt]

They could've changed the requirements instead of removing it.

[cloud dawn]

I mean you would've gotten the badge around 200 servers that's just nothing these days.

[untold token]

^

[golden hamlet]

is there a way to look at all the available libraries

for discord

[sweet ether]

oooohhh

[cloud dawn]

Not without downloading them all

Some are pretty bad though

[dapper cobalt]

pip install every-discord-package-ever

[hardy yoke]

https://discord.com/developers/docs/topics/community-resources not a complete list

[vocal plover]

https://discord.com/developers/docs/topics/community-resources

that timing lmao

[cloud dawn]

I might make my wrapper in java anyways 😋

[untold token]

is JDA good?

[chrome edge]

the what

[vocal plover]

its not bad, lets put it that way

[cloud dawn]

decent

[haughty sedge]

Yess, I'm using it...it even got buttons

[untold token]

oh nice

[haughty sedge]

And its simple too

Beginner-Friendly

[untold token]

alright

[dapper cobalt]

A wrapper for nerds.

[cloud dawn]

How so?

[dapper cobalt]

Just kidding. Java is a cool language.

[echo jolt]

uh.. d.py has been achieved, no longer mantained

sad

[dapper cobalt]

!pypi disco is a similar library, but not async.

[unkempt canyon]

disco v1.40.4

Run Python jobs on the cloud using DISCO

[steady geyser]

until 2022 ,right?

[dapper cobalt]

from disco.bot import Bot, Plugin


class SimplePlugin(Plugin):
    # Plugins provide an easy interface for listening to Discord events
    @Plugin.listen('ChannelCreate')
    def on_channel_create(self, event):
        event.channel.send_message('Woah, a new channel huh!')

    # They also provide an easy-to-use command component
    @Plugin.command('ping')
    def on_ping_command(self, event):
        event.msg.reply('Pong!')

    # Which includes command argument parsing
    @Plugin.command('echo', '<content:str...>')
    def on_echo_command(self, event, content):
        event.msg.reply(content)

[echo jolt]

forever prob

[cloud dawn]

No almost instantly

[steady geyser]

hmm

[echo jolt]

danny said it will not continue it because discord forcing slash commands, and he don't like this

[untold token]

are you the developer of spoticord?

[vocal plover]

ngl, pretty good

[echo jolt]

now i need to find a discord.py fork mantained or fork my own and keep updating it.. pain

[shut ocean]

@echo jolt even if you do, you have to rewrite the bot too

[cloud dawn]

yea

[vocal plover]

if this announcement had only come out 2 weeks later i'd have had an alternative to offer people lmao

[echo jolt]

wym?

[cloud dawn]

What are you planning...

[untold token]

o what is it about

[shut ocean]

you can't maintain a fork that will keep existing bots working. You also have to rewrite the bot to use the new slash commands method

if this change really goes through (and no reason to think it won't), all discord.py bots will have to be rewritten, even if discord.py itself was to support the new method

[cloud dawn]

For now a really good base and dashboard. But since discord.py is stopping i might move my wrapper plan a few months earlier than expected lol

[untold token]

ah

it's a music bot?

[cloud dawn]

It does not have music no just the base and dashboard

[untold token]

well there is an another bot with the same name

[chrome edge]

dashboard?

[untold token]

it's a music bot that connects to spotify premium

and plays music

[cloud dawn]

webbrowser

[chrome edge]

huh.

[steady geyser]

hey what is fork and how can i make it?

[cloud dawn]

? What is the name of the bot

[chrome edge]

presumably same name

[cloud dawn]

You just go to github and fork a project

[steady geyser]

fork means?

[echo jolt]

everything related to d.py has stopped the development smh

[untold token]

spoticord

[cloud dawn]

My bot name is Spotipy since my original plan was to make a lyrics bot using the spotify api and lyrics sites.

[untold token]

ah

[chrome edge]

but again, if discord trying to push / cmds, why would discord py gets f[redacted] upped?

[dapper cobalt]

I've found this petition: https://chng.it/wHqVwvCPRn

[echo jolt]

yes

[untold token]

bruh petitions won't change a thing

[echo jolt]

but not if someone doesn't fork it and keep updating in relation of discord api updates

[cloud dawn]

Since it also removes some other things by 2022 and alters a lot. Almost everyone dislikes it.

[chrome edge]

i see

[dapper cobalt]

I know, but I just found it. It may at least get the attention of the Discord staff.

[chrome edge]

wont changing api version number solves the issue?

[chrome edge]

oh

[sweet ether]

what is it?

[frigid badge]

hey can someone suggest an alternative to dis.py as it has ended.

[cloud dawn]

Uhhmmm doesn't work like that.

[vocal plover]

discord.py has not ended, its no longer maintained by danny

[slate swan]

I'm not gonna nove to Slash commands anyway lol, even if my bot Is in more than 600 server

[frigid badge]

so my bot will still work ?

[sweet ether]

it hasn't ended, it's just lost a little hope but it can go on if someone can keep their fork updated

[chrome edge]

if they removed gateway access

[slate swan]

Yes

[chrome edge]

wait thats dumb

[cloud dawn]

You have no choice in 2022 since it won't accept messages anymore and the bot cannot read them.

[chrome edge]

discord said that?

[frigid badge]

oh , i thought the code will not work if i wrote it using dis.py

[dapper cobalt]

Your bot won't work then. Unless you get the message intents.

[slate swan]

I already have the message intent

[dapper cobalt]

What? How? It's not out yet.

[chrome edge]

lol

[midnight solstice]

Do classes refer to other classes like can i do .commands.context.message.author.name ?

[cloud dawn]

Pretty sure in 2022 no bot can read message even with intents.

[chrome edge]

all those intents stuff, ugh.

[modern pewter]

What's the use of intents?

[chrome edge]

time to move platform

[glossy edge]

What happened? Can someone please link a discord announcement?

[steady geyser]

what is intent

[frigid badge]

how can i add slash commands then ?

[chrome edge]

similar to permission

[slate swan]

Ah my bad i tought It was member intent

[cloud dawn]

https://gist.github.com/Rapptz/4a2f62751b9600a31a0d3c78100287f1

[slate swan]

Slash commands are horrible in my opinion

[modern pewter]

Lmao slash commands?

eew

[glossy edge]

Ah I've read that, but this?

[untold token]

crinj

[slate swan]

And how can someone use a help command if every bot you have in your server uses slash commands

[sweet ether]

yess samee

[strange ocean]

@untold token hoi

[chrome edge]

while it is not like the worst idea, but they should really give bot devs choices to use whatever they want

[frigid badge]

i dont know why discord is adding slash commands , i like normal text

[slate swan]

Same

It Is much better

[steady geyser]

change the name baba

[untold token]

ello

[sweet ether]

the person would have to use their keyboard to choose the bot who's help command they want

[slate swan]

Not replit has an inbuilt YouTube tutorial tab

*now

[cloud dawn]

I'm looking at the github and their Discord, seems like some contributors also stopped.

[slate swan]

That's horrible, isn't It?

[austere herald]

Essentially, this is a unanimous decision that the discord.py project will be ending.

[steady geyser]

@slate swan

[slate swan]

Why?

[steady geyser]

you can do other names

[frigid badge]

imagine in 2025 discord remove the feature of talking through text and we can only talk through voice

[cloud dawn]

25% of this screenshot is already banned so

[steady geyser]

so it will be unique cmd

[slate swan]

A

make an on_message event which sends help when the bot is mentioned

[chrome edge]

and it always bugged

[cloud dawn]

self botting is the onliest solution 😂

[slate swan]

it's practical , and messages can be read if the bot is mentioned

Are slash commands implemented in discord.py?

Not for now

[cloud dawn]

Not yet i think.

[slate swan]

that's one of the main reason why discord.py is closing

Then how TF can i use slash commands on my python bot

Lol

[cloud dawn]

But seeming that some wrappers take 2k+ lines it might never come to discord.py

[hoary gust]

guys which pi library shall i use

[dapper cobalt]

Groovy.

[steady geyser]

you meant this cmd like /About

[cloud dawn]

dislash.

[reef dock]

use a 3rd party

[slate swan]

!PyPi dislash.py

[unkempt canyon]

dislash.py v1.4.9

A python wrapper for message components and application commands.

[slate swan]

where tho?

[hoary gust]

guys suggest me a discord api library

[slate swan]

I Hope that someone Will Copy discord.py and continue to develope It

[slate swan]

Hikari

if not discord.py

[hoary gust]

is that a python module

[steady geyser]

@slate swan i tagged wrong sorry

[slate swan]

Yes

[hoary gust]

and is it similar to dpy

[slate swan]

Kind of

it's not same

[hoary gust]

can u show a bit of code

[dapper cobalt]

It has only interactions.

[steady geyser]

similar codes?

[slate swan]

Is It complicated to switch to Slash commands?

[dapper cobalt]

https://dislashpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

[tall niche]

@dapper cobalt wrong pypi link, you want https://pypi.org/project/disco-py/

[slate swan]

Just check on the PyPi page , you'll see the examples

can anyone help me please e

[dapper cobalt]

Oh my bad.

[reef dock]

depends on the type of command you have ig

[dapper cobalt]

https://dislashpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/examples.html

[slate swan]

What's your problem

[steady geyser]

you meant the prefix right?

[slate swan]

No, the slash commands

[steady geyser]

like?

[slate swan]

But what if i change the bot prefix to /

[cloud dawn]

discord.py's github now This repository has been archived by the owner. It is now read-only. 😳

[limpid walrus]

Bots can read all messages sent so it is a privacy risk. So Discord wants bots to use slash commands only.

[steady geyser]

that is what i am taking about

does this slash cmd

[slate swan]

I think It Is not considered as a slash command

[shut ocean]

if all your bot does is execute commands, then it can work with slash commands. You still have to rewrite it though

[steady geyser]

then

[slate swan]

i am trying to put them in but i have this probl

I came to know discord.py stops develop what is future now

[cloud dawn]

How about they fix that if you login to a dashboard bots like mee6 get your email adress. That's something they should fix.

[steady geyser]

it is blank

is that problem

[tulip frigate]

some people did forks and do their own dicsord.py, some people switch to js etc etc.

[cloud dawn]

Doesn't crash

[slate swan]

ok

[reef dock]

no its not considered a slash command thats just u changing the prefix

[cloud dawn]

I think i'm going to switch to js

[slate swan]

How to fork

[steady geyser]

IDK js

[pulsar nexus]

anyone made prominent forks yet?

[hoary gust]

suggest me a api library of another language that has slash commands

[dim wing]

im lazy to learn js lol

[cloud dawn]

It has been 12 hours lool give it some time.

[shut ocean]

These libraries have slash commands implemented

[pulsar nexus]

it's been more than 23 mins lol

it's been several hours

[steady geyser]

oh yeah

[slate swan]

How to fork

[cloud dawn]

Still

[hoary gust]

guys suggest me a api library

[dim wing]

what are you talking about?

[slate swan]

Discord.py

[cloud dawn]

Of the discontinuation of discord.py

[hoary gust]

is this for me

[dim wing]

damn

[reef dock]

people are making out like discord is the bad guy they're doing it for security/privacy reasons i dont see how thats wrong tbh

[dim wing]

it's sad

[steady geyser]

i think not

[slate swan]

How to fork discord.py

[shut ocean]

Go to https://github.com/Rapptz/discord.py and click the button

[tall niche]

click the fork button lol

[cloud dawn]

Most people are not, there are some out there.

[limpid walrus]

No there is commands only for bots now.

[hoary gust]

guys suggest me a discord api library

[tall niche]

its not as if the library is disappearing. You'll be able to pip install discord.py for ages

[slate swan]

discord.js / eris

[cloud dawn]

discord.js / JDA

[hoary gust]

guys which is the easiest api library after dpy that has slash cmds

[dim wing]

what's JDA?

[hoary gust]

java

[hushed glacier]

There will be enough forks. The question is, who takes over the discord.py name on pypi.

[dim wing]

mmh okay

[slate swan]

java discord api

[cloud dawn]

Probably no one if the library won't be taken over for security reasons.

[hoary gust]

anyone?

[hushed glacier]

Yea

[shut ocean]

nobody; The owner asked the people he trusts and nobody wants to take over so it will just die

[tall niche]

I don't think that'll happen, since they'll want discord.py == discord.py code and as the maintainer has said there are no sanctioned forks that anyone wanted to make

[dim wing]

is it long to learn javascript if I already know python?

[hushed glacier]

I see

[cloud dawn]

Yes.

[dim wing]

sad

[hoary gust]

anyone?

[cloud dawn]

I've coded in c# and php so i should be fine

[steady geyser]

IDK

[shut ocean]

probably discord.js

[cloud dawn]

dislash

[hoary gust]

which language is it written in

[steady geyser]

i hate you.......

[reef dock]

i dont really know which is the easiest

[tall niche]

Note that probably all libraries ATM act exactly like discord.py currently, and this current method will completely break in April next year unless you make sure to only use sanctioned stuff by the discord devs

[hoary gust]

which website

??

[reef dock]

https://gist.github.com/Rapptz/4a2f62751b9600a31a0d3c78100287f1

[tall niche]

IE if you wrote your bot in discord.js similar to how you wrote your bot in discord.py, it will break next year anyway just the same

[reef dock]

just keep scrolling down and you will see it

[cloud dawn]

python

[steady geyser]

HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLll