#discord-bots | Python | Page 410

burnt quiver Jun 18, 2025, 8:16 AM

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this ain't no python

full mango Jun 18, 2025, 8:16 AM

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burnt quiver this ain't no python

Yeah...

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😬

burnt quiver Jun 18, 2025, 8:17 AM

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uh consider .gg/djs

full mango Jun 18, 2025, 8:18 AM

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oh okay

jagged sparrow Jun 18, 2025, 10:14 AM

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javascript?

full mango Jun 18, 2025, 10:14 AM

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jagged sparrow javascript?

ye

jagged sparrow Jun 18, 2025, 10:15 AM

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lol

clear ledge Jun 18, 2025, 1:45 PM

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I need the help for my bot

fast osprey Jun 18, 2025, 1:45 PM

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what problem are you having?

clear ledge Jun 18, 2025, 1:46 PM

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I want to create a Roleplay bot for the community (console) but it's my first time so I'm struggling.

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and my English is really down the drain

fast osprey Jun 18, 2025, 1:47 PM

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Where are you stuck?

clear ledge Jun 18, 2025, 1:47 PM

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Uh actually, it's a project that I want to do and I want to know the beginnings, where to start, etc. I don't know if you see what I mean.

fast osprey Jun 18, 2025, 1:48 PM

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I don't, you need to be specific about what you have tried, what you want to do and where the problem is

clear ledge Jun 18, 2025, 1:48 PM

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Then I don't even know which language would be good, I've been told Js is better but I manage a bit with Py.

fast osprey Jun 18, 2025, 1:48 PM

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Well given this is a python community server, you should come here if you decide to use python

clear ledge Jun 18, 2025, 1:49 PM

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What are the basics for starting a bot already?

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I must admit I can't listen to tutorials since most are in English and that's not my language, so there you go.

fast osprey Jun 18, 2025, 1:50 PM

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Have a good solid understanding of the language you want to use. This is beyond just basics and includes things like classes and async
Pick a library you want to use (discord.py, pycord, disnake, etc)
Read the getting started guide for that library

clear ledge Jun 18, 2025, 1:51 PM

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I only created a Panel system, then I'm struggling.

fast osprey Jun 18, 2025, 1:52 PM

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Bots layer on multiple advanced language concepts like classes, async, and API's. It is suggested you learn those things before attempting to make a bot

clear ledge Jun 18, 2025, 1:54 PM

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Yeah that's true, can you just tell me if the beginning is good?

fast osprey Jun 18, 2025, 1:54 PM

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I have no idea what you're asking by that

clear ledge Jun 18, 2025, 1:55 PM

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I can send you my code and you can tell me what is wrong or what is good.

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?

fast osprey Jun 18, 2025, 1:57 PM

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You can send it here if you would like feedback

clear ledge Jun 18, 2025, 1:59 PM

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burnt quiver Jun 18, 2025, 2:02 PM

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you should subclass discord.ui.View() so it's much cleaner

clear ledge Jun 18, 2025, 2:05 PM

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How is that, excuse me I don't know how to do it I'm starting development lol

fast osprey Jun 18, 2025, 2:09 PM

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fast osprey Bots layer on multiple advanced language concepts like classes, async, and API's...

If you don't know what a subclass is, this applies

clear ledge Jun 18, 2025, 2:16 PM

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???

patent hull Jun 18, 2025, 2:21 PM

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add_command is not a decorator

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command is, add_command isn’t

compact ivy Jun 19, 2025, 3:50 AM

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Alright, I'm using discord.py, latest version, trying to make a logging command
in on_ready I'm getting the channel set with

log_channel = client.get_channel(LOG_CHANNEL_ID)
if log_channel == None:
    print(f"Could not connect to channel id {LOG_CHANNEL_ID}")

That print does not get called if LOG_CHANNEL_ID is valid, and does get called if LOG_CHANNEL_ID is invalid, I've tested this

The following code is used for the logging itself:

@client.event
async def on_message_delete( message ):
    print(f"Message deleted: {message.content}")
     DeletedEmbed = discord.Embed(
        title=message.author.name,
        description=message.content, color=0xFF0000
        )
    await log_channel.send(embed=DeletedEmbed)

The error I get is as follows:
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'send'

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Any ideas on what causes this?

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It's also worth noting that I put log_channel = None is in the global scope, before any functions are called

merry cliff Jun 19, 2025, 4:06 AM

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compact ivy Any ideas on what causes this?

you need to do global log_channel before using it in the on_message_delete function

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and same thing with on_ready

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otherwise it might be a local variable

compact ivy Jun 19, 2025, 4:07 AM

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that worked perfectly
always those little nuances that I mess up

abstract ibex Jun 19, 2025, 8:01 AM

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Are there any Discord bot developers here with a strong background in creating bots? I'd like to have a word with you

burnt quiver Jun 19, 2025, 8:05 AM

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abstract ibex Are there any Discord bot developers here with a strong background in creating b...

If you're considering hiring devs, try fivver, else you can ask for help here

full mango Jun 19, 2025, 8:07 AM

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How do you make a button permanently interactive even after restarting the bot?

timber dragon Jun 19, 2025, 8:08 AM

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Disable it?

full mango Jun 19, 2025, 8:08 AM

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timber dragon Disable it?

"interactive"

timber dragon Jun 19, 2025, 8:08 AM

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OH

burnt quiver Jun 19, 2025, 8:08 AM

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😔

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d! discord.ext.commands.bot.add_view

full mango Jun 19, 2025, 8:08 AM

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burnt quiver 😔

I swear it isn't JS this time

burnt quiver Jun 19, 2025, 8:08 AM

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bro

timber dragon Jun 19, 2025, 8:09 AM

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Listen for the specific custom_id in the on_interaction event

full mango Jun 19, 2025, 8:09 AM

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It's rust 😃

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(joke)

timber dragon Jun 19, 2025, 8:09 AM

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Surely you can listen for events

full mango Jun 19, 2025, 8:09 AM

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timber dragon Surely you can listen for events

yeah

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but I like my code in OOP 😔

timber dragon Jun 19, 2025, 8:10 AM

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But you're using djs

full mango Jun 19, 2025, 8:10 AM

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timber dragon But you're using djs

No i'm using disnake

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It's similar to d.py

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the syntax is the same

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js a different library in which you don't need to sync with the commandtree

timber dragon Jun 19, 2025, 8:11 AM

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Ooh

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Oh god

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I thought this was the ddevs server lmfao

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My bad

burnt quiver Jun 19, 2025, 8:12 AM

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😭

timber dragon Jun 19, 2025, 8:13 AM

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See https://github.com/DisnakeDev/disnake/blob/master/examples/views/persistent.py

full mango Jun 19, 2025, 8:14 AM

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Like this?

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(The view timeout is none and the buttons have custom IDs)

timber dragon Jun 19, 2025, 8:17 AM

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Ya

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on_ready can be called multiple times while running though

full mango Jun 19, 2025, 8:18 AM

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timber dragon Ya

it still doesnt workr 😢

timber dragon Jun 19, 2025, 8:19 AM

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Did you also send those view with the same custom id

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https://discord.gg/gJDbCw8aQy could join their server and ask there

full mango Jun 19, 2025, 8:22 AM

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timber dragon Did you also send those view with the same custom id

No they have different custom ids

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but theres no error

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Its js saying failed interaction everytime i restart the bot and try

timber dragon Jun 19, 2025, 8:24 AM

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full mango No they have different custom ids

Then it isn't gonna work lmao

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It dispatches based on the custom id

full mango Jun 19, 2025, 8:28 AM

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timber dragon Then it isn't gonna work lmao

wym same custom_id tho

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like the components of the view having the same custom button?

timber dragon Jun 19, 2025, 8:32 AM

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Sure

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Like the custom_id= kwarg for all the buttons

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You need to send the same view as you add to the bot

abstract ibex Jun 19, 2025, 11:47 AM

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burnt quiver If you're considering hiring devs, try fivver, else you can ask for help here

no

burnt quiver Jun 19, 2025, 12:06 PM

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uh then ask here

fast osprey Jun 19, 2025, 12:53 PM

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no

burnt quiver Jun 19, 2025, 1:03 PM

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Huh

fast osprey Jun 19, 2025, 1:25 PM

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perhaps

kind trellis Jun 19, 2025, 5:26 PM

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Uhhh, which one is better? edit_original_response or edit_message?

fast osprey Jun 19, 2025, 5:27 PM

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going through an interaction has much kinder rate limits where possible than alternatives that don't

tender bobcat Jun 19, 2025, 5:30 PM

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One thing noted is edit_original_response would edit the new message sent if the interaction already replyed with a mesage, where edit_message can pre-record the message and specifically edit it

kind trellis Jun 19, 2025, 5:30 PM

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Does it matter if it's ephemeraled or not?

tender bobcat Jun 19, 2025, 5:31 PM

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I am not sure, try refer it from the documentation

fast osprey Jun 19, 2025, 5:33 PM

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pretty sure you have to go through the interaction to mess with ephemerals at all

kind trellis Jun 19, 2025, 5:34 PM

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So, original?

tender bobcat Jun 19, 2025, 5:34 PM

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!d discord.Interaction.edit_original_response

unkempt canyonBOT Jun 19, 2025, 5:34 PM

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discord.Interaction.edit\_original\_response


await edit_original_response(*, content=..., embeds=..., embed=..., attachments=..., view=..., allowed_mentions=None, poll=...)```
This function is a [*coroutine*](https://docs.python.org/3/library/asyncio-task.html#coroutine).

Edits the original interaction response message.

This is a lower level interface to [`InteractionMessage.edit()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/interactions/api.html#discord.InteractionMessage.edit) in case you do not want to fetch the message and save an HTTP request...

split onyx Jun 20, 2025, 4:49 AM

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whats the best discord language??

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.py, json, disnake, etc??

viscid hornet Jun 20, 2025, 5:33 AM

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split onyx whats the best discord language??

it's an API

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they're just more human-interpretable methods of interacting with that API

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also uh

woeful hill Jun 20, 2025, 5:36 AM

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split onyx .py, json, disnake, etc??

In any of these
Only .py is a file extension of a programming language
json is another file extension to store static config (not really that good nowadays)
disnake is an api wrapper for discord, wrapping raw request into methods of objects

viscid hornet Jun 20, 2025, 5:36 AM

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JSON is a data format

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this

woeful hill Jun 20, 2025, 5:38 AM

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if you however meant js (javascript), this is a python server, there will not be a an objective answer to X or Y question in X's server

viscid hornet Jun 20, 2025, 5:40 AM

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woeful hill if you however meant js (javascript), this is a python server, there will not be...

discord.js and discord.py are just libraries that abstract discord's raw API. there isn't much difference besides the language they're implemented in and the coding style that comes from that

woeful hill Jun 20, 2025, 5:40 AM

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Back to python api wrappers, choose whatever you want, most people use discord.py, some uses py-cord, less use disnake, even 1 or 2 people uses hikari, interactions.py etc

viscid hornet Jun 20, 2025, 5:40 AM

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@bot.event
async def on_ready():
    print("ready!")

client.on('ready', () => {
    console.log("ready!");
};

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pick your poison joeshrug

jaunty cape Jun 20, 2025, 7:56 AM

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Real ones use arikawa

stark ingot Jun 20, 2025, 11:45 AM

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woeful hill Back to python api wrappers, choose whatever you want, most people use discord.p...

Interestingly, on my sample size of 1 hikari had the most active and quickest support.

viscid hornet Jun 20, 2025, 12:20 PM

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stark ingot Interestingly, on my sample size of 1 hikari had the most active and quickest su...

they're so eager to help because it's the first help post in 3 months

rose hull Jun 20, 2025, 12:24 PM

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Hikari is great idk why dpy users hate it so much

woeful hill Jun 20, 2025, 12:26 PM

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never seen people hating on it

fast osprey Jun 20, 2025, 12:27 PM

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Have literally never seen anyone say anything negative, unless you read "few people use it" as "hate"

woeful hill Jun 20, 2025, 12:28 PM

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acknowledgement = hate

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/739614945045643447.webp?size=48&name=blobpain

severe rampart Jun 20, 2025, 12:39 PM

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rose hull Hikari is great idk why dpy users hate it so much

as a discord.py user I have never heard of Hikari

fast osprey Jun 20, 2025, 12:43 PM

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AFAIK it's one of the few (maybe only) 'mainstream' library that is completely from scratch and not a fork of d.py

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wildly different design patterns

severe rampart Jun 20, 2025, 1:04 PM

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Neat

timber dragon Jun 20, 2025, 1:11 PM

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Hikari's design is wild yeah

woeful hill Jun 20, 2025, 1:13 PM

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Hikari design is very bright, i mean, it means light

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-# Pls laugh, i spent 1 hour on that

tender bobcat Jun 20, 2025, 1:19 PM

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woeful hill -# Pls laugh, i spent 1 hour on that

No

white citrus Jun 20, 2025, 1:44 PM

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Why doesn't my Discord bot respond to any commands anymore?

fast osprey Jun 20, 2025, 1:50 PM

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We'll need more details, preferably code

white citrus Jun 20, 2025, 1:57 PM

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fast osprey We'll need more details, preferably code

I thougt mayby is it discord?

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Beacuse the main bot is working

fast osprey Jun 20, 2025, 2:01 PM

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And how would we know that without seeing your code

woeful hill Jun 20, 2025, 2:02 PM

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probably overrode on_message event without process_commands()

white citrus Jun 20, 2025, 2:05 PM

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woeful hill probably overrode `on_message` event without `process_commands()`

Should i share bot.py with you?

woeful hill Jun 20, 2025, 2:05 PM

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Share it here

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I'm not the master dev that can solve everything, more people better help

fast osprey Jun 20, 2025, 2:09 PM

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Pretty sure you are

torn bone Jun 20, 2025, 2:09 PM

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hi anyone who has web scrapped rocket reach please help me

white citrus Jun 20, 2025, 2:09 PM

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woeful hill Share it here

https://pastebin.com/SR0w2aQa

Pastebin

import jsonimport osfrom datetime import datetime, timedelta, timez...

Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.

fast osprey Jun 20, 2025, 2:10 PM

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torn bone hi anyone who has web scrapped rocket reach please help me

you will not...engage in any systematic, automated, or excessive data collection or extraction activities (including, but not limited to, scraping, data mining, data extraction, and data harvesting) on or related to our Services or Lookup Information without obtaining our explicit written consent;

fast osprey Jun 20, 2025, 2:12 PM

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woeful hill probably overrode `on_message` event without `process_commands()`

Yup it's exactly this. Don't use an on_message event, use a listener

woeful hill Jun 20, 2025, 2:13 PM

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https://docs.nextcord.dev/en/stable/faq.html#why-does-on-message-make-my-commands-stop-working

white citrus Jun 20, 2025, 2:13 PM

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fast osprey Yup it's exactly this. Don't use an on_message event, use a listener

is that new, it worked before very well, and i use application commands

fast osprey Jun 20, 2025, 2:13 PM

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That's how it has always worked

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Events override the base functionality, listeners layer on top of it

white citrus Jun 20, 2025, 2:14 PM

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even if they are application commands?

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so i have to just add await bot.process_commands(message)

fast osprey Jun 20, 2025, 2:15 PM

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No, use a listener

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@bot.listen instead of @bot.event

white citrus Jun 20, 2025, 2:20 PM

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fast osprey `@bot.listen` instead of `@bot.event`

okay and n futher action is needed?

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or imorvements?

fast osprey Jun 20, 2025, 2:21 PM

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You should understand what this does and why it fixes it

white citrus Jun 20, 2025, 2:21 PM

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i will not change very much so i asked if it is that one thing

fast osprey Jun 20, 2025, 2:23 PM

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Do you understand what that does

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If you do, then you should be able to figure out if you need to change anything else rather than being told

white citrus Jun 20, 2025, 2:24 PM

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# do stuff here # do not process commands here

i have only db stuff and message stuff

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so i need just to change the header ig

fast osprey Jun 20, 2025, 2:25 PM

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fast osprey Do you understand what that does

^

white citrus Jun 20, 2025, 2:26 PM

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fast osprey ^

yeah it is a listener instead of the a that is bugged

white citrus Jun 20, 2025, 3:04 PM

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how can i use this in my bot code?

tender bobcat Jun 20, 2025, 3:06 PM

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<any_name:id>

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Or for animated I think it is <a:any_name:id>

white citrus Jun 20, 2025, 3:07 PM

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tender bobcat Or for animated I think it is `<a:any_name:id>`

and only the bot an use this?

tender bobcat Jun 20, 2025, 3:07 PM

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For bot emoji only bot can use it I think

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An application can own up to 2000 emojis that can only be used by that app.
-# Source: https://discord.com/developers/docs/resources/emoji

timber dragon Jun 20, 2025, 5:26 PM

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Only the bot can use the emojis yes

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No one else

fast osprey Jun 20, 2025, 5:35 PM

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Not with that attitude

timber dragon Jun 20, 2025, 6:03 PM

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very carefully

blissful kettle Jun 20, 2025, 6:19 PM

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hey can someone help me make this

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like an automated python script, that can be changed via discord bot. Ping me

fast osprey Jun 20, 2025, 6:21 PM

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A screenshot doesnt really describe the behavior you want

blissful kettle Jun 20, 2025, 6:21 PM

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what does that mean

fast osprey Jun 20, 2025, 6:22 PM

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It means you just sending this screenshot isn't much to go on

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We can't read your mind of what these buttons do

blissful kettle Jun 20, 2025, 6:23 PM

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oh I see, so i made a discord automated script via python. then I want to make the python script changeable via discord bot the (j.son file)

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@fast osprey

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u get it?

fast osprey Jun 20, 2025, 6:26 PM

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No

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"Discord automated script" doesn't mean anything

blissful kettle Jun 20, 2025, 6:28 PM

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ive written a code via python for the discord automated messages and i want to make a bot like the one ive sent (I want to change the json file via discord bot

fast osprey Jun 20, 2025, 6:35 PM

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What is "discord automated messages"

blissful kettle Jun 20, 2025, 6:45 PM

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fast osprey What is "discord automated messages"

like auto advertiser, auto message

fast osprey Jun 20, 2025, 6:47 PM

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It is against discord developer policy to target users with advertisements or marketing

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https://support-dev.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/8563934450327-Discord-Developer-Policy bullet 6

blissful kettle Jun 20, 2025, 6:49 PM

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oh I see

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thank u

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so basically the pic that I have sent is a custom made UI? if im not mistaken

fast osprey Jun 20, 2025, 6:53 PM

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No, it's a usage of built in UI components discord offers to bots

blissful kettle Jun 20, 2025, 6:54 PM

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sorry, im new to coding. I just coded this for 17 hrs and started to learn python. I'll delete this cuz it violates discord's TOS

fast osprey Jun 20, 2025, 6:55 PM

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Bots layer on lots of advanced topics. I would not recommend making one until you complete some more focused projects and learn the fundamentals

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And also familiarize yourself with the TOS and dev policy

blissful kettle Jun 20, 2025, 6:56 PM

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fast osprey Bots layer on lots of advanced topics. I would not recommend making one until yo...

but I made it worked so, is that goods for 17 hrs

fast osprey Jun 20, 2025, 6:57 PM

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It depends on what you learned and what practices you used

jaunty cape Jun 20, 2025, 8:49 PM

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woeful hill -# Pls laugh, i spent 1 hour on that

This message was funnier than the joke bro

timber dragon Jun 20, 2025, 9:27 PM

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woeful hill Hikari design is very bright, i mean, it means light

KEKW KEKW

fair topaz Jun 21, 2025, 4:45 PM

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too many hearts

mild zephyr Jun 21, 2025, 5:37 PM

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simple question. is there a "standard" way to format a discord project? "specific" ways to name folders

wanton current Jun 21, 2025, 5:43 PM

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no

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but many people have "cogs" folders, "utils", etc.

tender bobcat Jun 21, 2025, 5:45 PM

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Or ext

split onyx Jun 21, 2025, 6:30 PM

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mild zephyr simple question. is there a "standard" way to format a discord project? "specifi...

Cogs are the way

fast osprey Jun 21, 2025, 6:31 PM

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cogs have nothing to do with folders/files

split onyx Jun 21, 2025, 6:39 PM

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fast osprey cogs have nothing to do with folders/files

ummm yes it does?

fast osprey Jun 21, 2025, 6:42 PM

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It doesn't

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cogs are classes. You can put a million classes in a file.

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It's a very common and incorrect misunderstanding that cogs and extensions mean the same thing

split onyx Jun 21, 2025, 6:50 PM

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fast osprey cogs are classes. You can put a million classes in a file.

im aware of what cogs are, but lets not pretend that cogs aren't almost always used to call classes from other files for better organization of files/folder/commands.

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and this "misunderstanding" has no impact on the bot itself when using cogs

fast osprey Jun 21, 2025, 6:50 PM

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People almost always parrot what they see from some random youtuber. That doesn't mean it's right just because a lot of people say it

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organizing things into cogs and file structure are two entirely separate exercises

split onyx Jun 21, 2025, 6:51 PM

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the cogs are using to call the files in that structure

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Its like taking caramel and apples for caramel apples and saying that have nothing to do with each other for caramel apples.

fast osprey Jun 21, 2025, 6:52 PM

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what

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You dont' "call" files

split onyx Jun 21, 2025, 6:53 PM

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im aware

fast osprey Jun 21, 2025, 6:53 PM

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and yet you're saying it

split onyx Jun 21, 2025, 6:53 PM

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you call the class in that file

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and yet you understand what im saying

fast osprey Jun 21, 2025, 6:53 PM

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You also don't call classes

split onyx Jun 21, 2025, 6:54 PM

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mhm

timber dragon Jun 21, 2025, 6:58 PM

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Fml

deft sundial Jun 22, 2025, 2:41 PM

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I'm trying to make my bot's slash commands work in DMs and GCs but it simply doesnt work only in other servers

class CustomBot(commands.Bot):
    def __init__(self):
        intents = discord.Intents.default()
        intents.message_content = True
        intents.messages = True
        intents.guilds = True
        intents.dm_messages = True  
        super().__init__(command_prefix='!', intents=intents)
        
    async def setup_hook(self):
        await self.tree.sync()

i tried
Adding dm_permission=True to commands (got TypeError)
Using @app_commands.guild_only(False) (got AttributeError)
Setting self.tree.copy_global_to = None
Added DM intents

any advice on this problem? many thanks MrCoffee_Happy

viscid hornet Jun 22, 2025, 2:49 PM

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deft sundial I'm trying to make my bot's slash commands work in DMs and GCs but it simply doe...

!d discord.app_commands.allowed_contexts

unkempt canyonBOT Jun 22, 2025, 2:49 PM

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discord.app\_commands.allowed\_contexts


@discord.app_commands.allowed_contexts(guilds=..., dms=..., private_channels=...)```
A decorator that indicates this command can only be used in certain contexts. Valid contexts are guilds, DMs and private channels.

This is **not** implemented as a [`check()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/interactions/api.html#discord.app_commands.check), and is instead verified by Discord server side.

Due to a Discord limitation, this decorator does nothing in subcommands and is ignored...

viscid hornet Jun 22, 2025, 2:49 PM

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!d discord.app_commands.allowed_installs

unkempt canyonBOT Jun 22, 2025, 2:49 PM

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discord.app\_commands.allowed\_installs


@discord.app_commands.allowed_installs(guilds=..., users=...)```
A decorator that indicates this command should be installed in certain contexts. Valid contexts are guilds and users.

This is **not** implemented as a [`check()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/interactions/api.html#discord.app_commands.check), and is instead verified by Discord server side.

Due to a Discord limitation, this decorator does nothing in subcommands and is ignored...

viscid hornet Jun 22, 2025, 2:49 PM

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i have a helper deco that does both of these for me

deft sundial Jun 22, 2025, 2:51 PM

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viscid hornet i have a helper deco that does both of these for me

apperciate it, ima try use those decorators

blissful kettle Jun 22, 2025, 3:32 PM

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yes yes

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educational purpose only

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aight bet

tender bobcat Jun 22, 2025, 3:37 PM

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!rule 5

unkempt canyonBOT Jun 22, 2025, 3:37 PM

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Rules

5. Do not provide or request help on projects that may violate terms of service, or that may be deemed inappropriate, malicious, or illegal.

fast osprey Jun 22, 2025, 3:47 PM

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"s3lfb0ts"...honestly? Really? Is this tiktok?

cosmic elk Jun 22, 2025, 3:56 PM

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Can someone help me make my “first” discord bot? I say “first” in quotes bc I’ve made part of a bot but not a full one… if anyone has tutorials please feel free to send them my way… the main problems I am having is the best way to start and also how to use custom prefixes… like I don’t want the command to be ‘/command’ but I want it to be ‘%command’

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Anyone who responds plz ping me! Thx in advance!

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❤️

tender bobcat Jun 22, 2025, 3:56 PM

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You would have to show your code

cosmic elk Jun 22, 2025, 3:57 PM

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tender bobcat You would have to show your code

I don’t have any yet…

tender bobcat Jun 22, 2025, 3:58 PM

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fast osprey "s3lfb0ts"...honestly? Really? Is this tiktok?

I guess they are trying to circumvent a non existent filter in the dumbest way possible

tender bobcat Jun 22, 2025, 3:58 PM

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cosmic elk Can someone help me make my “first” discord bot? I say “first” in quotes bc I’ve...

Have a read in this https://fallendeity.github.io/discord.py-masterclass/

Discord.py Masterclass

A hands-on guide to Discord.py

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Also don't trust any DM request because no one would be able to cross check if they are doing something malicious

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If you are using discord.py

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!d discord.ext.commands.Bot

unkempt canyonBOT Jun 22, 2025, 3:59 PM

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discord.ext.commands.Bot

class discord.ext.commands.Bot(command_prefix, *, help_command=<default-help-command>, tree_cls=<class 'discord.app_commands.tree.CommandTree'>, description=None, ...)```
Represents a Discord bot.

This class is a subclass of [`discord.Client`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api.html#discord.Client) and as a result anything that you can do with a [`discord.Client`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api.html#discord.Client) you can do with this bot.

This class also subclasses [`GroupMixin`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ext/commands/api.html#discord.ext.commands.GroupMixin) to provide the functionality to manage commands...

tender bobcat Jun 22, 2025, 3:59 PM

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You can set the prefix there

woeful hill Jun 22, 2025, 4:27 PM

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fast osprey "s3lfb0ts"...honestly? Really? Is this tiktok?

W3 4r3 l1v1n9 1n 7h3 493 7h47 y0u n33d t0 wr173 1n number case or else you are not a beta

jaunty cape Jun 22, 2025, 4:39 PM

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Bro

woeful plinth Jun 22, 2025, 4:42 PM

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woeful hill W3 4r3 l1v1n9 1n 7h3 493 7h47 y0u n33d t0 wr173 1n number case or else you are n...

ok Terezi

jaunty cape Jun 22, 2025, 4:44 PM

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Do you see their server tag bro 😭

tender bobcat Jun 22, 2025, 4:48 PM

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jaunty cape Do you see their server tag bro 😭

snek, in reference to snekbox, which power !e

celest pelican Jun 22, 2025, 5:52 PM

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a) Don't spam this across channels, b) this is a Python server

woeful plinth Jun 22, 2025, 5:56 PM

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are you even old enough for discord?

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also what made you think that people from a python server would help you with c++?

woeful plinth Jun 22, 2025, 9:36 PM

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codebox?

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print('oo textt')

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this?^

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you wanna learn how to do the codebox?

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where code gets color?

fast osprey Jun 22, 2025, 9:40 PM

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what's your objective here?

timber dragon Jun 22, 2025, 9:49 PM

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!d discord.Message.system_content

unkempt canyonBOT Jun 22, 2025, 9:49 PM

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discord.Message.system\_content

A property that returns the content that is rendered regardless of the Message.type.

In the case of MessageType.default and MessageType.reply, this just returns the regular Message.content. Otherwise this returns an English message denoting the contents of the system message.

timber dragon Jun 22, 2025, 9:49 PM

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if you're using discord.py, it constructs the content for you there

split onyx Jun 23, 2025, 4:09 AM

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im interested in seeing some of the most "advanced" discord bots does anyone know any

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and open source would be cool

burnt quiver Jun 23, 2025, 4:23 AM

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split onyx im interested in seeing some of the most "advanced" discord bots does anyone kno...

There aren't many open sources advanced discord bots, but you can take a look at danny's https://github.com/Rapptz/RoboDanny

GitHub

GitHub - Rapptz/RoboDanny: A discord bot for servers that I like.

A discord bot for servers that I like. Contribute to Rapptz/RoboDanny development by creating an account on GitHub.

finite salmon Jun 23, 2025, 6:59 AM

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split onyx im interested in seeing some of the most "advanced" discord bots does anyone kno...

https://github.com/Ballsdex-Team/BallsDex-DiscordBot

GitHub

GitHub - Ballsdex-Team/BallsDex-DiscordBot: Collect and exchange co...

Collect and exchange countryballs on Discord. Contribute to Ballsdex-Team/BallsDex-DiscordBot development by creating an account on GitHub.

timber dragon Jun 23, 2025, 7:08 AM

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Have some more!

split onyx Jun 23, 2025, 7:11 AM

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Thank you all

jaunty cape Jun 23, 2025, 7:21 AM

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Let’s go bro I’m rocking the Python discord emblem

timber dragon Jun 23, 2025, 7:21 AM

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Snek

viscid hornet Jun 23, 2025, 9:16 AM

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timber dragon Snek

put it in a box

young dagger Jun 23, 2025, 10:27 AM

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Working on a verification bot that contacts an API, changes the profile picture and then lets them in

fast osprey Jun 23, 2025, 10:28 AM

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They have oauth it seems btw

woeful plinth Jun 23, 2025, 10:31 AM

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young dagger Working on a verification bot that contacts an API, changes the profile picture ...

why would you want it to change the pfp?

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well ig for inappropriate profiles

young dagger Jun 23, 2025, 10:32 AM

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woeful plinth why would you want it to change the pfp?

Because only the account owner can do that

fast osprey Jun 23, 2025, 10:33 AM

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Yeah authorization flows like this should absolutely use oauth when it's offered, way more secure and easier for both parties

woeful plinth Jun 23, 2025, 10:34 AM

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young dagger Because only the account owner can do that

yeah ik but for what purpose?

young dagger Jun 23, 2025, 10:34 AM

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woeful plinth yeah ik but for what purpose?

To verify that you are not a robot

woeful plinth Jun 23, 2025, 10:35 AM

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so if it cant change the pfp then that means its a bot?

young dagger Jun 23, 2025, 10:38 AM

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woeful plinth so if it cant change the pfp then that means its a bot?

It means you won’t be able to access the server and will be removed shortly

woeful plinth Jun 23, 2025, 10:39 AM

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wait explain

young dagger Jun 23, 2025, 10:42 AM

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Well, you need to complete the verification within a specified time

wise mica Jun 23, 2025, 10:42 AM

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woeful plinth why would you want it to change the pfp?

not discord pfp, their pfp in the game

woeful plinth Jun 23, 2025, 10:43 AM

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oooh

fast osprey Jun 23, 2025, 10:46 AM

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Wait...this is just to verify someone isn't a bot? Not to link an account?

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Just use an interactive captcha service

young dagger Jun 23, 2025, 10:46 AM

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Can be used for different purposes

fast osprey Jun 23, 2025, 10:47 AM

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If you want to link accounts, use oauth. If you want to verify a human, use an interactive service

tender bobcat Jun 23, 2025, 1:21 PM

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^^

tidal sentinel Jun 23, 2025, 1:57 PM

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Hello,

Can i edit messages via ID

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Is it possible?

woeful hill Jun 23, 2025, 2:04 PM

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why would you only store the message id in the view

tidal sentinel Jun 23, 2025, 2:05 PM

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woeful hill why would you only store the message id in the view

I mean i want to change it, example let's say i have class Button1, and i want to change it with class Button2

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After they select i want to change embed with another select class

young dagger Jun 23, 2025, 2:13 PM

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fast osprey If you want to link accounts, use oauth. If you want to verify a human, use an i...

This method is used by multiple well known bots. I see nothing wrong here

fast osprey Jun 23, 2025, 2:20 PM

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Just because people do it doesn't mean it's good. It means it's easy

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That method doesnt do either of the things I described well. It just does it easily

fast osprey Jun 23, 2025, 2:21 PM

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tidal sentinel Hello, Can i edit messages via ID

You need both message id and channel id to manipulate messages

wise belfry Jun 23, 2025, 7:30 PM

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Does anyone know how to connect my cog commadn to my main .py all help is appercited and I will sendwhatever you need to help me. Thanks 🙂
-# please ping me if you can assist me.

full lily Jun 23, 2025, 7:40 PM

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wise belfry Does anyone know how to connect my cog commadn to my main .py all help is apperc...

did you load the cog?

wise belfry Jun 23, 2025, 7:41 PM

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full lily did you load the cog?

Im not a coder, But I have the cogs in a ifle,

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this is my main with my cogs.

full lily Jun 23, 2025, 7:41 PM

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yeah so you need to tell your bot where the cogs are actually located, and load them. They don't load on their own

wise belfry Jun 23, 2025, 7:42 PM

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full lily yeah so you need to tell your bot where the cogs are actually located, and load ...

Okay, I have no idea how to do that is their any chance you can tell me what to do please?

full lily Jun 23, 2025, 7:42 PM

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https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ext/commands/api.html?highlight=load#discord.ext.commands.Bot.load_extension

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Here's the relevant method

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!d discord.ext.commands.Bot.load_extension

unkempt canyonBOT Jun 23, 2025, 7:42 PM

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discord.ext.commands.Bot.load\_extension


await load_extension(name, *, package=None)```
This function is a [*coroutine*](https://docs.python.org/3/library/asyncio-task.html#coroutine).

Loads an extension.

An extension is a python module that contains commands, cogs, or listeners...

full lily Jun 23, 2025, 7:43 PM

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somewhere in main.py you need to run this

wise belfry Jun 23, 2025, 7:44 PM

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full lily somewhere in main.py you need to run this

Okay one second can I get back to you?

full lily Jun 23, 2025, 7:44 PM

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yeah just ping me later i might be on

stark ingot Jun 23, 2025, 8:05 PM

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They have not stated what library they use so the above docs may be inaccurate.

stark ingot Jun 23, 2025, 8:54 PM

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There is no deadline to delete discord messages. Except for ephemeral messages, which require the use of an interaction token that expires after 15 minutes. This is universal to any language/library

timber dragon Jun 23, 2025, 9:28 PM

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bulk delete is limited to 14 days though

safe mist Jun 23, 2025, 10:01 PM

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can you only send 1 embed per message now?

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no matter what i do, i can only get the 1st embed to show, here is my raw body:

{
    "embeds": [
        {
            "title": "Overall",
            "fields": [
                {
                    "name": "**Seasonal Wins**",
                    "value": "944 wins in 1322 matches (71.4%)",
                    "inline": false
                },
                {
                    "name": "**Seasonal Kills**",
                    "value": "5,722 Kills, 15.14 KD, 4.33 KPM",
                    "inline": false
                }
            ]
        },
        {
            "title": "Gamemodes",
            "fields": [
                {
                    "name": "**Solo Wins**",
                    "value": "487 wins in 525 matches (92.8%)\n4,226 Kills, 111.21 KD, 8.05 KPM",
                    "inline": false
                }
            ]
        }
    ]
}

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also tried discord.py and same result

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sending both individually works fine

tender bobcat Jun 23, 2025, 10:13 PM

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wise belfry Does anyone know how to connect my cog commadn to my main .py all help is apperc...

Context in case anyone want to help differently: https://discord.com/channels/267624335836053506/1386132870426394695

fast osprey Jun 23, 2025, 10:56 PM

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What the

young dagger Jun 23, 2025, 10:59 PM

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safe mist no matter what i do, i can only get the 1st embed to show, here is my raw body: ...

Show full code

safe mist Jun 23, 2025, 11:02 PM

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young dagger Show full code

async with self.session.request(
    method="POST",
    url=f"https://discord.com/api/v10/channels/{channel_id}/messages",
    headers={
        "Authorization": f'Bot {token}',
        "Content-Type": "application/json"
    },
    json={
        "embeds": [embed1, embed2]
    }
) as request:
    data = await request.json()

The value of embed1 & embed2 are the exact same as my previous message. My current workaround is just to send them as 2 individual messages like this (which works fine so I don't think theres any issue with the embed structures):

for embed in [embed1, embed2]:
    async with self.session.request(
        method="POST",
        url=f"https://discord.com/api/v10/channels/{channel_id}/messages",
        headers={
            "Authorization": f'Bot {token}',
            "Content-Type": "application/json"
        },
        json={
            "embeds": [embed]
        }
    ) as request:
        data = await request.json()

tender bobcat Jun 23, 2025, 11:10 PM

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fast osprey What the

lol

full lily Jun 23, 2025, 11:45 PM

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whats up guys

tender bobcat Jun 23, 2025, 11:51 PM

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Perfectly fine

full lily Jun 23, 2025, 11:51 PM

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good

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that's the best way to be

tender bobcat Jun 23, 2025, 11:55 PM

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I believe so
Not like I can be a super human being, nor being such can be consider good anyway

vapid parcel Jun 24, 2025, 1:31 AM

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not possible to put a video inside of an embed still correct?

full lily Jun 24, 2025, 1:33 AM

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vapid parcel not possible to put a video inside of an embed still correct?

i dont think i've ever seen it

vapid parcel Jun 24, 2025, 1:33 AM

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aight figured lol

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L discord fr

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I remember not being able to set the video in an embed for awhile, but checking again just incase I missed something

full lily Jun 24, 2025, 1:34 AM

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although....

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I see some screenshots of what might be just that

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oh i wonder if its uh

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like youtube, steam, twitter preview

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facebook

vapid parcel Jun 24, 2025, 1:35 AM

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full lily I see some screenshots of what might be just that

thats a completely different thing

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thats website embeds, which discord bots don't use those embeds

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websites have special embeds or something where the API does not let you access ig

full lily Jun 24, 2025, 1:36 AM

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yeah seeing that now. The screenshot mislead me

vapid parcel Jun 24, 2025, 1:36 AM

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its not hard to do logic to avoid conflicts, but all being in embeds looks better than via content

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personal opinion ^

tender bobcat Jun 24, 2025, 1:37 AM

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I mean technically you can format such?

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Also have you checked component v2

tender bobcat Jun 24, 2025, 1:40 AM

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vapid parcel websites have special embeds or something where the API does not let you access ...

They are defined by specific field in the html

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Which isn't API oriented

vapid parcel Jun 24, 2025, 1:41 AM

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tender bobcat They are defined by specific field in the html

Yes I know that, but discord allows that to be embeded in discord. Which is technically controlled by API

vapid parcel Jun 24, 2025, 1:41 AM

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tender bobcat Also have you checked component v2

Not in DPY I don't think, so I will have to wait for that release unless i am wrong?

tender bobcat Jun 24, 2025, 1:42 AM

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Oh, I mean check whether component v2 is capable of that

vapid parcel Jun 24, 2025, 1:42 AM

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oh let me check

tender bobcat Jun 24, 2025, 1:42 AM

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You can update dpy to the pr commit

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To use a unstable version of it if necessary

vapid parcel Jun 24, 2025, 1:42 AM

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tender bobcat You can update dpy to the pr commit

yeah I rather wait for official releases though

tender bobcat Jun 24, 2025, 1:43 AM

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Fair

vapid parcel Jun 24, 2025, 1:44 AM

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from what I am seeing you can't do it in v2 either unless im reading it wrong

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I don't think its ever coming to discord for security reasons maybe, but I have no clue why

tender bobcat Jun 24, 2025, 1:47 AM

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I believe you can use media gallery component for that

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https://docs.discord4j.com/interactions/components/media-galleries
But only found on a weird library docs

Media Galleries | Discord4J

Media Galleries

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Other only mention as "media", including official, which is quite vague

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And example usually only provided as image

vapid parcel Jun 24, 2025, 1:48 AM

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tender bobcat https://docs.discord4j.com/interactions/components/media-galleries But only foun...

https://discord.com/developers/docs/components/reference#media-gallery

Discord Developer Portal

Discord for Developers

Build games, experiences, and integrations for millions of users on Discord.

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https://discord.com/developers/docs/components/reference#component-object

Discord Developer Portal

Discord for Developers

Build games, experiences, and integrations for millions of users on Discord.

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i am just very certain it won't be in v2 because they don't show examples of videos either, they only show images / attachments

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and if discord makes something new, they USUALLY show the preview

tender bobcat Jun 24, 2025, 1:51 AM

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vapid parcel i am just very certain it won't be in v2 because they don't show examples of vid...

Well, there are library maker who said it work on video

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And it would be weird to say image or media if it only support image

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Display images and other media

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So you could maybe try it in the future, maybe something to look for

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Maybe other source: https://x.com/danatationn/status/1914898706479841685

dan (@danatationn)

@advaithj1 can you embed videos now ?

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Doesn't mean it can be directly trusted, but ye

vapid parcel Jun 24, 2025, 2:03 AM

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tender bobcat Well, there are library maker who said it work on video

not exactly how that works, just because you make a wrapper / lib doesnt mean you can do anything. Discords API is set for all wrappers / libs

tender bobcat Jun 24, 2025, 2:39 AM

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vapid parcel not exactly how that works, just because you make a wrapper / lib doesnt mean yo...

I mean they wrote the library with this specified, so they probably test it out

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Instead of just speculation

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Which is what we doing

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I am not saying they make the feature exist, but they probably have verified that the feature exist

stark ingot Jun 24, 2025, 2:57 AM

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Videos work fine

tender bobcat Jun 24, 2025, 3:18 AM

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stark ingot

Thx

vapid parcel Jun 24, 2025, 6:55 AM

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stark ingot

ah alright, thank you

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How to gift an SKU to another person..? as developer_gift is a thing?

full mango Jun 24, 2025, 8:43 AM

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stark ingot

Did discord js have a new update or smth

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this embeds look cool

burnt quiver Jun 24, 2025, 9:08 AM

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It's just components v2

viscid hornet Jun 24, 2025, 9:45 AM

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stark ingot

waow components

white citrus Jun 24, 2025, 12:57 PM

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Hey i need some helping with my host. Basicly he is not autoupdsting the files

woeful hill Jun 24, 2025, 1:02 PM

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Wdym by not auto updating the files

white citrus Jun 24, 2025, 1:10 PM

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woeful hill Wdym by not auto updating the files

Pulling it from github

woeful hill Jun 24, 2025, 1:12 PM

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Yeah what about that that doesnt work

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What have you done, what it does, why is it not working

white citrus Jun 24, 2025, 1:21 PM

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woeful hill What have you done, what it does, why is it not working

When i start the host, it is not checking dor any updates in files between the local and github

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It has the git username a git Access token and the git repo adress

woeful hill Jun 24, 2025, 1:31 PM

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Still not enough of an answer, what have you done, also if you do it on bot start just do a quick git pull before starting the bot

white citrus Jun 24, 2025, 1:31 PM

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woeful hill Still not enough of an answer, what have you done, also if you do it on bot star...

It is

woeful hill Jun 24, 2025, 1:33 PM

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So i have to guess how you do it

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Sure

white citrus Jun 24, 2025, 1:33 PM

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woeful hill Sure

if [[ -d .git ]] && [[ "1" == "1" ]]; then git pull; fi; if [[ ! -z "" ]]; then pip install -U --prefix .local ; fi; if [[ -f /home/container/${REQUIREMENTS_FILE} ]]; then pip install -U --prefix .local -r ${REQUIREMENTS_FILE}; fi; /usr/local/bin/python /home/container/bot.py

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thats the startup

white citrus Jun 24, 2025, 1:34 PM

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woeful hill So i have to guess how you do it

what do you need?

viscid hornet Jun 24, 2025, 1:35 PM

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white citrus `if [[ -d .git ]] && [[ "1" == "1" ]]; then git pull; fi; if [[ ! -z "" ]]; then...

i recognise this command pithink

fast osprey Jun 24, 2025, 1:35 PM

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Has nothing to do with python

white citrus Jun 24, 2025, 1:36 PM

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fast osprey Has nothing to do with python

As i said it is a python discord bot

fast osprey Jun 24, 2025, 1:36 PM

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That doesn't mean your question is python related. Where's the python there

white citrus Jun 24, 2025, 1:36 PM

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...bin/python...

fast osprey Jun 24, 2025, 1:37 PM

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"I'm running my discord bot on a Samsung smart fridge, my fridge is broken so help me fix my fridge"

white citrus Jun 24, 2025, 1:37 PM

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Why do you make life difficult instead of helping?

fast osprey Jun 24, 2025, 1:37 PM

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Because this isn't the place for what you're asking

white citrus Jun 24, 2025, 1:37 PM

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either help or stay out of it

fast osprey Jun 24, 2025, 1:37 PM

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Or you could ask where you're supposed to

white citrus Jun 24, 2025, 1:38 PM

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Than just say, please ask in ....

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Is it so hard?

fast osprey Jun 24, 2025, 1:38 PM

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Nah I'm good

white citrus Jun 24, 2025, 1:38 PM

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viscid hornet i recognise this command <:pithink:652247559909277706>

From?

viscid hornet Jun 24, 2025, 1:39 PM

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white citrus From?

this one goofy hosting service

white citrus Jun 24, 2025, 1:40 PM

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viscid hornet this one goofy hosting service

It is just to test

viscid hornet Jun 24, 2025, 1:40 PM

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wise belfry

whatever this is

white citrus Jun 24, 2025, 1:40 PM

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viscid hornet whatever this is

So do you know how to help?

quick gust Jun 24, 2025, 1:41 PM

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You should try contacting the hosting support

viscid hornet Jun 24, 2025, 1:41 PM

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white citrus When i start the host, it is not checking dor any updates in files between the l...

well for a start, did you commit and sync whatever changes you want?

white citrus Jun 24, 2025, 1:42 PM

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viscid hornet well for a start, did you commit and sync whatever changes you want?

I doo from vs code to github commit and push

viscid hornet Jun 24, 2025, 1:43 PM

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what website is this?

white citrus Jun 24, 2025, 1:43 PM

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XeroHost

viscid hornet Jun 24, 2025, 1:43 PM

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does that container have a git repository

white citrus Jun 24, 2025, 1:43 PM

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Yeah

#

tender bobcat Jun 24, 2025, 1:45 PM

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Did you put a valid git access token in there

white citrus Jun 24, 2025, 1:46 PM

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Yeah a Personal Access token

woeful hill Jun 24, 2025, 1:46 PM

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Was trying to debug that bash but seeing that image, the host is auto update as it said, so go to their server for help lol

white citrus Jun 24, 2025, 1:46 PM

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woeful hill Was trying to debug that bash but seeing that image, the host is auto update as ...

They wonder themselves

quick gust Jun 24, 2025, 1:47 PM

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Not a very good hosting service then

woeful hill Jun 24, 2025, 1:47 PM

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Then you shouldn't use that hosting service

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Since even them don't know what theyre doing

white citrus Jun 24, 2025, 1:48 PM

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They now but it is not fixed yet

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There have been several attempts to solve the problem

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So I thought someone here could help me

tender bobcat Jun 24, 2025, 1:49 PM

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It's clearly not a python code issue, and therefore you shouldn't ask here pithink

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They should be the best in knowledge to understand this

white citrus Jun 24, 2025, 1:49 PM

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where else?

tender bobcat Jun 24, 2025, 1:49 PM

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Your hosting provider

quick gust Jun 24, 2025, 1:49 PM

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That question has already been answered. Their support server

tender bobcat Jun 24, 2025, 1:50 PM

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Who provide this specific feature and have issue with the specific feature

white citrus Jun 24, 2025, 1:50 PM

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So no one can help here

quick gust Jun 24, 2025, 1:50 PM

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They know how their hosting works and if they don't, then you shouldn't be using that hosting service anyways

tender bobcat Jun 24, 2025, 1:53 PM

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fast osprey "I'm running my discord bot on a Samsung smart fridge, my fridge is broken so he...

Fr best analogy

fast osprey Jun 24, 2025, 2:13 PM

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Really it shouldn't be the responsibility of the hosting service to abstract things away from you; they're just giving you a vm and running the infra. Any automation should be fully in your control, ideally through something like a process manager

severe rampart Jun 24, 2025, 4:11 PM

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interesting

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feels very similar to templates though

timber dragon Jun 24, 2025, 4:12 PM

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"AI server builder" come on..

tender bobcat Jun 24, 2025, 4:14 PM

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Seem very unnecessary pithink

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If they know how to add your bot, they probably know how to setup a server in such way that AI can

digital rampart Jun 24, 2025, 4:15 PM

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Is a time focused tool. I know plenty of people tired of setting up servers. And templates lack customization . Thanks for your opinions tho.

fast osprey Jun 24, 2025, 4:15 PM

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Read documentation and learn systems: drakeNo

Hope a random LLM guesses right what you want: drakeYea

tender bobcat Jun 24, 2025, 4:16 PM

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Tired of setting up server:

How many time do you have to setup server🥴
Also server template already exist if they are tired of setting up server

timber dragon Jun 24, 2025, 4:17 PM

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Templates can create channels and roles.. basically what you're doing?

tender bobcat Jun 24, 2025, 4:18 PM

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Also did you setup role permission for each channel? Just making sure

timber dragon Jun 24, 2025, 4:18 PM

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?? You decided to showcase something in a public channel where anyone can say whatever they want...

Criticism isn't equal to toxicity or lame or "no life".

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Yep deleting your messages is totally the right thing to do 473513617950638081 prettythumbsup

tender bobcat Jun 24, 2025, 4:21 PM

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timber dragon Yep deleting your messages is totally the right thing to do 473513617950638081 <...

pithink Which

timber dragon Jun 24, 2025, 4:21 PM

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The video and calling us toxic, lame and low lifers has been deleted https://images.soheab.com/MxiKcvVzF90.jpeg

tender bobcat Jun 24, 2025, 4:21 PM

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Oh it just reload

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My discord just haven't load the change for whatever reason before I go to a different channel and back

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They also left so well

timber dragon Jun 24, 2025, 4:22 PM

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Amazing

woeful hill Jun 24, 2025, 4:35 PM

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me when i cant handle truth 🥀

tender bobcat Jun 24, 2025, 4:39 PM

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lol

split onyx Jun 24, 2025, 5:31 PM

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# -------------------- Imports -------------------- #
import os
import asyncio
import logging
from dotenv import load_dotenv
from pathlib import Path

import nextcord
from nextcord.ext import commands

from bot.config import DEFAULT_SETTINGS
from bot.database.db import init_db

# -------------------- Logging -------------------- #
logging.basicConfig(
    level=logging.INFO,
    format='[%(asctime)s] %(levelname)s: %(message)s',
    handlers=[
        logging.FileHandler('bot.log', encoding='utf-8'),
    ]
)
logger = logging.getLogger('bot')

# -------------------- Load Environment -------------------- #
load_dotenv()
TOKEN = os.getenv("DISCORD_TOKEN")
if not TOKEN:
    raise RuntimeError("❌ DISCORD_TOKEN not found in .env")

# -------------------- Init Database -------------------- #
init_db()

# -------------------- Intents -------------------- #
intents = nextcord.Intents.default()
intents.message_content = True

# -------------------- Bot Class -------------------- #
class DiscordBot(commands.Bot):
    def __init__(self, *args, **kwargs):
        super().__init__(*args, **kwargs)
        self.cog_dir = Path("cogs")

    async def setup_hook(self):
        await self.load_cogs()

    async def load_cogs(self):
        for cog_file in self.cog_dir.glob("*.py"):
            if cog_file.stem.startswith('_') or cog_file.stem.startswith('__'):
                continue
            cog_name = f"cogs.{cog_file.stem}"
            await self.load_extension(cog_name)
            logger.info(f"✅ Loaded cog: {cog_name}")

# -------------------- Bot Instance -------------------- #
bot = DiscordBot(
    command_prefix=DEFAULT_SETTINGS["general"]["default_prefix"],
    intents=intents
)

# -------------------- Run Bot -------------------- #
async def main():
    await bot.start(TOKEN)

if __name__ == "__main__":
    asyncio.run(main())

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No terminal print loaded_cog message. I have tried multiple variations of these same actions and im not sure why its not loading the cogs or sending any success message.

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Also I am not familiar with nextcord as much but I dont see what would need to change.

woeful hill Jun 24, 2025, 5:39 PM

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you set the logger to log into a file 🤔

split onyx Jun 24, 2025, 5:44 PM

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woeful hill you set the logger to log into a file 🤔

indeed

woeful hill Jun 24, 2025, 5:49 PM

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so have you checked the file

split onyx Jun 24, 2025, 5:51 PM

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📎 message.txt

unkempt canyonBOT Jun 24, 2025, 5:51 PM

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split onyx

Click here to see this code in our pastebin.

split onyx Jun 24, 2025, 5:51 PM

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[2025-06-24 10:37:34,044] WARNING: Shard ID None heartbeat blocked for more than 530 seconds.
Loop thread traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Users\braed\Desktop\Nextcord Bot\main.py", line 65, in <module>
    asyncio.run(main())
  File "C:\Users\braed\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python313\Lib\asyncio\runners.py", line 195, in run
    return runner.run(main)
  File "C:\Users\braed\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python313\Lib\asyncio\runners.py", line 118, in run
    return self._loop.run_until_complete(task)
  File "C:\Users\braed\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python313\Lib\asyncio\base_events.py", line 712, in run_until_complete
    self.run_forever()
  File "C:\Users\braed\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python313\Lib\asyncio\base_events.py", line 683, in run_forever
    self._run_once()
  File "C:\Users\braed\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python313\Lib\asyncio\base_events.py", line 2004, in _run_once
    event_list = self._selector.select(timeout)
  File "C:\Users\braed\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python313\Lib\asyncio\windows_events.py", line 446, in select
    self._poll(timeout)
  File "C:\Users\braed\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python313\Lib\asyncio\windows_events.py", line 775, in _poll
    status = _overlapped.GetQueuedCompletionStatus(self._iocp, ms)```

severe rampart Jun 24, 2025, 6:00 PM

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split onyx ```py # -------------------- Imports -------------------- # import os import asy...

cool comment styling

split onyx Jun 24, 2025, 6:04 PM

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severe rampart cool comment styling

thanks

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anyways I tried to just keep the basic stuff until I could identify the problem for now

stark ingot Jun 24, 2025, 6:18 PM

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It seems you have blocking code. The main 3 culprits are

Image manipulation
Non-async API requests
Non-async database calls

brazen raft Jun 24, 2025, 6:31 PM

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Or just a busy sync loop

stark ingot Jun 24, 2025, 6:53 PM

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stark ingot It seems you have blocking code. The main 3 culprits are - Image manipulation -...

~~main~~ most common in discord bots

tender bobcat Jun 24, 2025, 7:01 PM

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I think most common issue is beginner not listening to the advice of not picking discord bot as first project

split onyx Jun 24, 2025, 7:38 PM

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tender bobcat I think most common issue is beginner not listening to the advice of not picking...

lol

severe rampart Jun 24, 2025, 7:39 PM

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you could do asyncio.run_in_executor()

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i think maybe; my memory on that isn't too great atm

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It's been a long time since i've had to do that

split onyx Jun 24, 2025, 7:43 PM

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ive awaited the init_db() in main instead that didnt help

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[2025-06-24 12:43:15,100] INFO: logging in using static token
[2025-06-24 12:43:15,101] INFO: Allowed 1 rate limits to be garbage collected.
[2025-06-24 12:43:15,606] INFO: Shard ID None has sent the IDENTIFY payload.
[2025-06-24 12:43:15,754] INFO: Shard ID None has connected to Gateway: ["gateway-prd-us-east1-d-g0k9",{"micros":69868,"calls":["id_created",{"micros":788,"calls":[]},"session_lookup_time",{"micros":1255,"calls":[]},"session_lookup_finished",{"micros":14,"calls":[]},"discord-sessions-prd-2-48",{"micros":67412,"calls":["start_session",{"micros":55146,"calls":["discord-api-rpc-5c89788f78-9xvzh",{"micros":41836,"calls":["get_user",{"micros":5256},"get_guilds",{"micros":3472},"send_scheduled_deletion_message",{"micros":14},"guild_join_requests",{"micros":3},"authorized_ip_coro",{"micros":11},"pending_payments",{"micros":1066},"apex_experiments",{"micros":3},"user_activities",{"micros":2},"played_application_ids",{"micros":1}]}]},"starting_guild_connect",{"micros":44,"calls":[]},"presence_started",{"micros":5784,"calls":[]},"guilds_started",{"micros":62,"calls":[]},"lobbies_started",{"micros":1,"calls":[]},"guilds_connect",{"micros":1,"calls":[]},"presence_connect",{"micros":6351,"calls":[]},"connect_finished",{"micros":6354,"calls":[]},"build_ready",{"micros":19,"calls":[]},"clean_ready",{"micros":0,"calls":[]},"optimize_ready",{"micros":1,"calls":[]},"split_ready",{"micros":0,"calls":[]}]}]}] (Session ID: 6429e57d07e65395fbc463f279cc3658). Resume URL specified as wss://gateway-us-east1-d.discord.gg
[2025-06-24 12:44:05,281] WARNING: Can't keep up, shard ID None websocket is 49.7s behind.
[2025-06-24 12:44:06,879] WARNING: Shard ID None heartbeat blocked for more than 10 seconds.
Loop thread traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Users\braed\Desktop\Nextcord Bot\main.py", line 66, in <module>
    asyncio.run(main())
  File "C:\Users\braed\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python313\Lib\asyncio\runners.py", line 195, in run
    return runner.run(main)
  File "C:\Users\braed\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python313\Lib\asyncio\runners.py", line 118, in run
    return self._loop.run_until_complete(task)
  File "C:\Users\braed\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python313\Lib\asyncio\base_events.py", line 712, in run_until_complete
    self.run_forever()
  File "C:\Users\braed\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python313\Lib\asyncio\base_events.py", line 683, in run_forever
    self._run_once()
  File "C:\Users\braed\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python313\Lib\asyncio\base_events.py", line 2004, in _run_once
    event_list = self._selector.select(timeout)
  File "C:\Users\braed\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python313\Lib\asyncio\windows_events.py", line 446, in select
    self._poll(timeout)
  File "C:\Users\braed\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python313\Lib\asyncio\windows_events.py", line 775, in _poll
    status = _overlapped.GetQueuedCompletionStatus(self._iocp, ms)

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idk

stark ingot Jun 24, 2025, 8:06 PM

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What library are you using to connect to your database?

split onyx Jun 24, 2025, 9:24 PM

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stark ingot What library are you using to connect to your database?

sql

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I switch to aiosql to see if that was an issue as well

woeful hill Jun 24, 2025, 11:29 PM

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is sql a library

tender bobcat Jun 24, 2025, 11:30 PM

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!pypi sql

unkempt canyonBOT Jun 24, 2025, 11:30 PM

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sql v2022.4.0

DB API 2.0 for Humans

Released on <t:1646546896:D>.

tender bobcat Jun 24, 2025, 11:30 PM

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I guess so...

vapid parcel Jun 25, 2025, 2:54 AM

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so why when doing SKUs can you only have User Subscriptions or Guild Subscriptions, you aren't allowed to do both on the store?

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Not really related to this server, but maybe someone in here might know..

raw arrow Jun 25, 2025, 7:29 AM

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Anyone got any suggestions

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https://paste.pythondiscord.com/4DVQ

fast osprey Jun 25, 2025, 9:39 AM

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Just use server templates?

fast osprey Jun 25, 2025, 10:19 AM

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Because that seems to be what their code is doing

viscid hornet Jun 25, 2025, 10:47 AM

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unkempt canyon

this is surprisingly really good

viscid hornet Jun 25, 2025, 10:47 AM

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fast osprey Because that seems to be what their code is doing

cant you also just make and handle a server template yourself in code?

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!d discord.Template pithink

unkempt canyonBOT Jun 25, 2025, 10:48 AM

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discord.Template


class discord.Template```
Represents a Discord template.

New in version 1.4.

viscid hornet Jun 25, 2025, 10:48 AM

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!d discord.Guild.create_template

unkempt canyonBOT Jun 25, 2025, 10:48 AM

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discord.Guild.create\_template


await create_template(*, name, description=...)```
This function is a [*coroutine*](https://docs.python.org/3/library/asyncio-task.html#coroutine).

Creates a template for the guild.

You must have [`manage_guild`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api.html#discord.Permissions.manage_guild) to do this...

viscid hornet Jun 25, 2025, 10:48 AM

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thank god for dpy having normal names

merry cliff Jun 25, 2025, 10:53 AM

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lol

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 7:21 PM

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Hi, looking to sell some Discord bots made with Pycord then compiled using Nuitka for compatibility and privacy of my source code. Now I am into keeping the check logic for the bot to be safe enough against reverse-engineering. I heard that storing the SERVER_ID directly allow some people to access it from the memory. What about this logic:

# A hashed + salted server ID.
SERVER_ID = "825c491944682dae4ee43cf82f7f6da5d187eda3b8a5471cfba3b9a9f3b3f9b7"


# A function to get the salt, which is should never stored;
# the salt is obtained by converting unicode code points to chars.
def salt():
    part1 = [codes here]
    part2 = [codes here]
    part3 = [codes here]
    return "".join(chr(n) for n in part1 + part2 + part3)


# A function to convert a text into a hash with the required salt.
def hash(text: str) -> str:
    return hashlib.sha256((salt() + text).encode()).hexdigest()

Then compare the bot that the bot in and the and SERVER_ID in the hash function. This way: Never storing the actual ID, instead a hashed+salted server ID string, and the salt itself is also non stored. What do you think? Hope this works and make things at least safer.

sick birch Jun 25, 2025, 7:35 PM

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kind olive Hi, looking to sell some Discord bots made with `Pycord` then compiled using `Nu...

what even is the point

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there isnt really anything crazy you can do with an id

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 7:38 PM

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sick birch there isnt really anything crazy you can do with an id

I know, but it's for them, not the bot. The bot should work with only 1 ID. And being hard to change in the bot logic, if changed means they could use the bot for other servers.

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A client comes, give me their server ID, I hash it with salt, include it in the bot source, and then compile. Got it?

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When someone is looking at the memory and could find and modify the SERVER_ID variable, the bot will hash it with salt and compare with existing guilds.

Look at this:

    for guild in bot.guilds:
        if hash(str(guild.id)) == SERVER_ID:
            logger.debug(f"Bot is connected to the target guild: {guild.name}")
            break
    else:
        logger.warning("Bot isn't connected to the target guild; logging out.")
        await bot.close()

sick birch Jun 25, 2025, 7:50 PM

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kind olive When someone is looking at the memory and could find and modify the SERVER_ID ...

if someone is determined enough to do memory manipulation then there isnt much you can do to stop them from using your bot lol

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hashing the id doesnt really do anything

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if anything you're just wasting cycles

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 7:52 PM

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sick birch if someone is determined enough to do memory manipulation then there isnt much y...

My question, can they modify the check logic? After that we talk about what hashing can really do.

sick birch Jun 25, 2025, 7:52 PM

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kind olive My question, can they modify the check logic? After that we talk about what hash...

they can modify anything

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if you hand over your code they can change anything and do whatever they want with it, given they're determined enough

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 7:53 PM

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How? The if hash(str(guild.id)) == SERVER_ID: is editable?

sick birch Jun 25, 2025, 7:53 PM

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sure. they have the executable, they can change any instruction they want to

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can also modify any piece of memory they want to

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 7:53 PM

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What tools/methods?

sick birch Jun 25, 2025, 7:54 PM

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anything to read and write to binary files

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as for viewing and modifying process memory, not sure. i've never done that but im sure there are tools

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 7:54 PM

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sick birch sure. they have the executable, they can change any instruction they want to

My goal is; making it safe as possible. Not being totally impossible to reverse engineer, so hashing adds a layer of security?

sick birch Jun 25, 2025, 7:55 PM

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i guess? hiding the ID does nothing

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its their own server, they know the ID. and even if it wasnt an ID isnt good for much without context

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you're treating the ID like it's some super secret piece of information when its not

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 7:57 PM

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sick birch its their own server, they know the ID. and even if it wasnt an ID isnt good for...

I think you still didn't get the point;

I know they know the ID, what my code is doing is having a hashed+salted string of the ID trying to block them from using the bot on multiple servers. Which makes any average reverse engineer at least a bit more complex.

sick birch Jun 25, 2025, 7:57 PM

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it barely makes a difference

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 7:58 PM

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Ok here we go, they knew it's hashed with SHA256, they tried to hash another ID and replace. Now the check logic hashes both IDs (the one the bot in and the one given) using salt.

sick birch Jun 25, 2025, 7:59 PM

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dont even have to do all that

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 7:59 PM

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):

sick birch Jun 25, 2025, 7:59 PM

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if you cared enough just find where in the bytecode the comparision happens and remove it

fast osprey Jun 25, 2025, 8:00 PM

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why try to sell packaged code/software? Just sell SaaS

sick birch Jun 25, 2025, 8:00 PM

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just leave it be and spend this effort on making other features or something

fast osprey Jun 25, 2025, 8:00 PM

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Trying to obscure code you're giving to people is obscenely fruitless when there's a clear other business model

sick birch Jun 25, 2025, 8:01 PM

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if you turn it into a service theres pretty much nothing they can do

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 8:02 PM

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sick birch just leave it be and spend this effort on making other features or something

I programmed that layer already, will keep it as is. You don't know when Jesus will make someone stop trying to reverse engineer by that logic.

sick birch Jun 25, 2025, 8:03 PM

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no point beyond just compiling your code if you're trying to prevent reverse engineering

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diminishing returns, waste of time and effort

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 8:04 PM

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sick birch no point beyond just compiling your code if you're trying to prevent reverse eng...

I am not compiling to prevent reverse engineering. Just for client side compatibility. And the target clients are not into tech a lot, so making things simpler download and run is better.

fast osprey Jun 25, 2025, 8:05 PM

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Wouldn't just using a service already running for them be even easier?

sick birch Jun 25, 2025, 8:05 PM

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real

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 8:06 PM

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fast osprey Wouldn't just using a service already running for them be even easier?

wdym? Like a website control panel?

fast osprey Jun 25, 2025, 8:06 PM

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It's a discord bot? So just run it?

sick birch Jun 25, 2025, 8:06 PM

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kind olive wdym? Like a website control panel?

maybe if it needs configuration that you can't do through the bot itself

jaunty cape Jun 25, 2025, 8:07 PM

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My guy can’t they just remove the lines that prevent the bot from being used

sick birch Jun 25, 2025, 8:07 PM

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but just have them fill out a google form or something explaining what bot they need, send them the bot's invite link, and that's that

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 8:09 PM

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I still think download and run easier, I don't want to host myself, not for saving that 1KB RAM, but I don't have 24/7 electricity.

fast osprey Jun 25, 2025, 8:09 PM

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How is that easier for your users to download, run, and figure out hosting themselves

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it's easier for you, not them

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 8:11 PM

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My target clients are very familiar with that, you don't know about Arab server owners. Btw everything in the bot is automatic, all they have to do is passing the token in a .json config file.

jaunty cape Jun 25, 2025, 8:11 PM

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Bro why would they hire you to make a bot for them if they could write it themselves

fast osprey Jun 25, 2025, 8:11 PM

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kind olive I am not compiling to prevent reverse engineering. Just for client side compatib...

So somehow they are magically technically advanced enough to do that, but also somehow not technically advanced enough for this. Convenient

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 8:12 PM

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jaunty cape Bro why would they hire you to make a bot for them if they could write it themse...

They cannot, they're not programmers. + I am not only selling custom bots, ticket managers, etc..

jaunty cape Jun 25, 2025, 8:12 PM

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So they’re very familiar with running Python files but can’t write it somehow?

fast osprey Jun 25, 2025, 8:12 PM

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If they're not programmers, why are you worrying about them decompiling?

jaunty cape Jun 25, 2025, 8:12 PM

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are we serious rn

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 8:12 PM

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fast osprey So somehow they are magically technically advanced enough to do that, but also s...

Not the point, I am talking IF someone is buying the bot (or got the files from their friends who bought) to do reverse engineering

fast osprey Jun 25, 2025, 8:13 PM

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If you're worried about reverse engineering, do SaaS

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that's the answer

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 8:13 PM

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fast osprey If they're not programmers, why are you worrying about them decompiling?

It's possible that it end up between an expert's hands.

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The files

jaunty cape Jun 25, 2025, 8:13 PM

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Get a load of this guy

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 8:14 PM

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Guys I am just taking advices, I am not saying I am 100% right.

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I got into some points I didn't think about after this

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This is what I am looking for

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ONLY

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 8:16 PM

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jaunty cape So they’re very familiar with running Python files but can’t write it somehow?

Bruh? It's compiled using --onefile. 1 mouse click could run it XD

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No Python needed

fast osprey Jun 25, 2025, 8:16 PM

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Once you hand it off to users, it's not yours at that point. If you don't want them to pick it apart, don't give it to them

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Or charge them more and act like a programming contractor where they own the product you build

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 8:18 PM

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fast osprey Once you hand it off to users, it's not yours at that point. If you don't want t...

Got it

jaunty cape Jun 25, 2025, 8:19 PM

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Right some server owner is definitely gonna run a random executable from a guy with 1 commit in a private repository

fast osprey Jun 25, 2025, 8:20 PM

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I mean I would never pay someone to make something, obscure me from seeing what it does while they refuse to run it as a service for me. Incredibly naive buyer if they'd accept that

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 8:22 PM

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jaunty cape Right some server owner is definitely gonna run a random executable from a guy w...

They're fine it's not your business, I know a service doing the exact same thing with +1,000 sells. You don't understand anything about the targetted clients. They're all Arab server owners.

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 8:22 PM

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fast osprey I mean I would never pay someone to make something, obscure me from seeing what ...

Ik sounds weird, but for my target clients it's fine

fast osprey Jun 25, 2025, 8:22 PM

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It's not fine, if they accept that they're fools

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and are just begging to get ripped off

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 8:23 PM

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fast osprey It's not fine, if they accept that they're fools

idc, I am doing my business. 90% of dildo sellers don't use it

jaunty cape Jun 25, 2025, 8:23 PM

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What does them being Arab have to do with your product

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My guy if you don’t want your product to be reverse engineered then just write the bot in Go

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 8:24 PM

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jaunty cape What does them being Arab have to do with your product

It's kinda complicated thing, but Arab server owners always prefer that way

jaunty cape Jun 25, 2025, 8:24 PM

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Pyinstaller doesn’t actually compile your program

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 8:24 PM

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jaunty cape Pyinstaller doesn’t actually compile your program

I already know

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I use Nuitka, it's designed for hiding the source code.

fast osprey Jun 25, 2025, 8:25 PM

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idk you do you. You can't reasonably have a result where you give them a black box and prevent them from opening it. Your options are SaaS, act on contract and sell the code, or pretend there's a third option

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 8:25 PM

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Pyarmor make it even harder, but it's not for commercal use unless paid

fast osprey Jun 25, 2025, 8:25 PM

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From a purely business perspective, you make more money with SaaS

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 8:27 PM

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Btw you guys forgot the trust concept. Even popular programs are compiled and at the end they found out that they steal info from you.

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Like that anti virus program i forgot it's name

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What i am doing is very common, acts like activation.

fast osprey Jun 25, 2025, 8:30 PM

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Popular programs are written by swarms of highly paid, experienced engineers

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not a rando asking for help in a discord server

sick birch Jun 25, 2025, 8:30 PM

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yes, we're aware of the discord bot buying/selling "business" space. the consumers there are not technical, and most of the products are unfortunately sloppy.
for your case in particular, you really only have 2 options

hand over an executable to end users, but be 100% fine with them doing whatever they want with it
Run a SaaS and charge a recurring fee to host infrastructure and code

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for your case in particular, there is a negligible difference whether you hash your ID or not. your efforts are better spent elsewhere

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 8:31 PM

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fast osprey not a rando asking for help in a discord server

Nobody mentioned the skills except you who's chatting also on Discord, it's on trust no experienced.

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I know how to build trust in my case because the clients are targetted not random

fast osprey Jun 25, 2025, 8:31 PM

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What does trust have to do with this

sick birch Jun 25, 2025, 8:31 PM

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i also don't see why it's your problem if they decide to run the bot on multiple servers

fast osprey Jun 25, 2025, 8:31 PM

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your entire point here is on not trusting them

sick birch Jun 25, 2025, 8:32 PM

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give them the source code, collect your money and be on your way

jaunty cape Jun 25, 2025, 8:32 PM

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There’s never a dull moment in this channel

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I now declare myself the mayor of #discord-bots and am seceding this channel from the rest of the server

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 8:33 PM

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sick birch give them the source code, collect your money and be on your way

To wake up on some people making a tutorial on how to run my bot in general with the source.

stark ingot Jun 25, 2025, 8:33 PM

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Is each bot different?

fast osprey Jun 25, 2025, 8:33 PM

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Then you don't trust them

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I know how to build trust in my case

I am worried about them doing something I specifically tell them not to

what

sick birch Jun 25, 2025, 8:34 PM

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kind olive To wake up on some people making a tutorial on how to run my bot in general with...

so it's one bot that you're basically selling access to?

jaunty cape Jun 25, 2025, 8:34 PM

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Build trust my ass

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 8:34 PM

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Ok guys ur right ,

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Maybe just letting them have a control panel in the purchase ticket to control the bot.

fast osprey Jun 25, 2025, 8:35 PM

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Running it SaaS isn't going to be as complicated as you might think

sick birch Jun 25, 2025, 8:35 PM

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sick birch so it's one bot that you're basically selling access to?

if this is true you're overthinking it and all you need is a whitelist lmao
fairly easy to implement and pretty much unbypassable

stark ingot Jun 25, 2025, 8:36 PM

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kind olive Ok guys ur right ,

Is the code for each bot different?

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 8:36 PM

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stark ingot Is the code for each bot different?

yes. But what I am working on rn is the template of each bot.

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jaunty cape Jun 25, 2025, 8:39 PM

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Idk about you, but I wouldn’t buy from someone that’s just giving me a random executable and has one commit in a private repository

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That’s just me though

stark ingot Jun 25, 2025, 8:40 PM

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TBH that is not relevant to the question/problem

sick birch Jun 25, 2025, 8:41 PM

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its not and the consumer base doesnt care either

fast osprey Jun 25, 2025, 8:41 PM

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We've already established that these customers are somehow incompetent enough to accept a product like this while also being smart enough to decompile code

sick birch Jun 25, 2025, 8:41 PM

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truly an interesting set of people

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anyway.. you need to be fine with people doing whatever they want with your code

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you dont really have a choice

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 8:42 PM

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Okay fine

fast osprey Jun 25, 2025, 8:42 PM

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Another thing to consider is that you can license this product that you give them, and then you can sue the pants off of them if they do try to redistribute it. Rather than trying to lock it down (which won't work)

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 8:42 PM

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I am here to take opinions only

sick birch Jun 25, 2025, 8:42 PM

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its the tradeoff you pay for not having your own infrastructure

kind olive Jun 25, 2025, 8:43 PM

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Thank you all

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I will be making it more open source and not locked for clients.

fast osprey Jun 25, 2025, 8:44 PM

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Good luck prettythumbsup

sick birch Jun 25, 2025, 8:44 PM

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kind olive I will be making it more open source and not locked for clients.

based

fast osprey Jun 25, 2025, 10:45 PM

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looks like an unstable connection

young dagger Jun 25, 2025, 11:23 PM

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That is normal

tender bobcat Jun 26, 2025, 2:11 AM

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It's a little bit too frequent than nornal

timber dragon Jun 26, 2025, 11:23 AM

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Every minute isn't normal lmao

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 2:10 PM

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You probably don't want to be using on_ready for anything. It runs repeatedly and randomly

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If you know then why are you trying to do it thonk

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Will need to see more of the code

quick gust Jun 26, 2025, 2:13 PM

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!paste paste it here and send the link

unkempt canyonBOT Jun 26, 2025, 2:13 PM

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Pasting large amounts of code

If your code is too long to fit in a codeblock in Discord, you can paste your code here:
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/

After pasting your code, save it by clicking the Paste! button in the bottom left, or by pressing CTRL + S. After doing that, you will be navigated to the new paste's page. Copy the URL and post it here so others can see it.

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 2:14 PM

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It's not

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Any other code in that file (or potentially others) could interfere with what you sent us

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That's how python works

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We'll need to see the rest of the file at minimum

lyric echo Jun 26, 2025, 2:19 PM

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someone knows maybe how to fix old af bot in discord.py (which was done in times we were all scared it will be deleted tbh…) to work right now? i get such things:

hacknorris@fedora:~/Pobrane/tux-update-cogged$ python3 main.py 
/home/hacknorris/Pobrane/tux-update-cogged/main.py:40: RuntimeWarning: coroutine 'BotBase.load_extension' was never awaited
  bot.load_extension(command)
RuntimeWarning: Enable tracemalloc to get the object allocation traceback
2025-06-26 16:13:25 INFO     discord.client logging in using static token
2025-06-26 16:13:27 INFO     discord.gateway Shard ID None has connected to Gateway (Session ID: 0e0f8ffcfb835ded878a5ad615e20845).
2025-06-26 16:16:55 ERROR    discord.ext.commands.bot Ignoring exception in command None
discord.ext.commands.errors.CommandNotFound: Command "man" is not found

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 2:20 PM

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lyric echo someone knows maybe how to fix old af bot in discord.py (which was done in times...

You should follow the 1.0 -> 2.0 migration guide in the docs

lyric echo Jun 26, 2025, 2:20 PM

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how to download 1.0 then?

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 2:20 PM

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You don't

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The API is turned off

lyric echo Jun 26, 2025, 2:20 PM

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so bot dead, yep?

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 2:20 PM

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You upgrade it to 2.x

lyric echo Jun 26, 2025, 2:21 PM

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if i need to rewrite like 2/3 code i'd rather make it dead…

quick gust Jun 26, 2025, 2:21 PM

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lyric echo so bot dead, yep?

If you don't migrate it, yes (which should be pretty straightforward)

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 2:21 PM

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Nobody said it would be 2/3

timber dragon Jun 26, 2025, 2:21 PM

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v1 to v2 isn't that big of a change

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 2:21 PM

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At least give it a read

lyric echo Jun 26, 2025, 2:21 PM

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depending. i have this old gem : https://codeberg.org/hacknorris/tux-update-cogged

Codeberg.org

tux-update-cogged

update version of my main public discord bot

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(that flask thingy to keep uptime on replit when it was still free)

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YES

timber dragon Jun 26, 2025, 2:22 PM

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still not much

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 2:22 PM

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Extensions, soheab

timber dragon Jun 26, 2025, 2:22 PM

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only two changes for extensions

quick gust Jun 26, 2025, 2:23 PM

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You shouldn't

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 2:23 PM

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Yeah not recommended

lyric echo Jun 26, 2025, 2:24 PM

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everyone does that

quick gust Jun 26, 2025, 2:24 PM

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Doesn't mean its the right thing to do

timber dragon Jun 26, 2025, 2:24 PM

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no?

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 2:24 PM

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A lot of people do, and a lot of people blindly copy paste from YouTube mouth breathers without reading docs

woeful hill Jun 26, 2025, 2:24 PM

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everyone = you and the other person

lyric echo Jun 26, 2025, 2:24 PM

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how you did await without def?

timber dragon Jun 26, 2025, 2:25 PM

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or just use setup_hook

lyric echo Jun 26, 2025, 2:25 PM

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you did :(

timber dragon Jun 26, 2025, 2:25 PM

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why is that bool even global..

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then assign a value above?

quick gust Jun 26, 2025, 2:26 PM

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Doesn't excuse bad bot structure. If you're having issues with something, ask for help

woeful hill Jun 26, 2025, 2:26 PM

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why do you need to make it global

lyric echo Jun 26, 2025, 2:27 PM

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i also always make globals tbh…

timber dragon Jun 26, 2025, 2:27 PM

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basic = "python"
print(basic) # python
basic = "learn it"
print(basic) # learn it

def change_basic():
  basic = "please!"

change_basic()
print(basic) # please!

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 2:27 PM

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notlikecatgoogly

woeful hill Jun 26, 2025, 2:27 PM

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all of this fool proof to make it not run a second time can just be bring to setup_hook

lyric echo Jun 26, 2025, 2:27 PM

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timber dragon ```py basic = "python" print(basic) # python basic = "learn it" print(basic) # l...

that thing actually is a useful thing…

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 2:29 PM

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Could even do it with advanced setup by starting the event loop yourself and then loading extensions, setup_hook isn't the only way but repeatedly checking some bool at random intervals for the entire lifecycle of the bot ain't the play

timber dragon Jun 26, 2025, 2:29 PM

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💀

quick gust Jun 26, 2025, 2:29 PM

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You definitely do not need to be making so many global variables

lyric echo Jun 26, 2025, 2:29 PM

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sometimes it's required to keep actual status

timber dragon Jun 26, 2025, 2:30 PM

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especially when you can assign attrs to the bot instance

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 2:30 PM

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It's never required

lyric echo Jun 26, 2025, 2:30 PM

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for example. or like a constant data…

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yeah, this too

timber dragon Jun 26, 2025, 2:30 PM

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bot instance can store state too

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 2:30 PM

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It's a crutch for not making proper use of objects

quick gust Jun 26, 2025, 2:30 PM

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lyric echo sometimes it's required to keep actual status

No it's not, a global variable is probably the worst thing you could use for that

woeful hill Jun 26, 2025, 2:31 PM

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c programmer

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 2:31 PM

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I made shitloads of globals when I was starting in python because it's what you get when you Google stuff like "share value in python" and it's "intuitive"

woeful hill Jun 26, 2025, 2:31 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1323277083820163143.webp?size=48&name=sadge

lyric echo Jun 26, 2025, 2:31 PM

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same

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 2:31 PM

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And the subtext there is that you think it works until it doesn't, and you have no idea why

lyric echo Jun 26, 2025, 2:32 PM

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and now at me stopped working due to @#%#^@$^$% discord.py

woeful hill Jun 26, 2025, 2:32 PM

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when the problem is yours but you want to blame others

lyric echo Jun 26, 2025, 2:32 PM

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no because earlier it was working without problems…

timber dragon Jun 26, 2025, 2:32 PM

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oh no! changes!

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 2:33 PM

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Discord discontinued the backing api. It's not the library's fault

woeful hill Jun 26, 2025, 2:33 PM

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welcome to being a dev ig

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 2:34 PM

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And you can't reasonably expect a service to promise upholding every version of an api they ever published for perpetuity

lyric echo Jun 26, 2025, 2:34 PM

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woeful hill welcome to being a dev ig

i like to make things i can write, have it written and it will always work same

woeful hill Jun 26, 2025, 2:34 PM

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yeah and youre making like a literature book or something

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 2:34 PM

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Then you'll need to adjust your expectations when the thing you build is on top of a live service you don't control

viscid hornet Jun 26, 2025, 2:35 PM

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lyric echo and now at me stopped working due to @#%#^@$^$% discord.py

we can say "fuck" here btw

lyric echo Jun 26, 2025, 2:35 PM

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i built on top of discord.py which is a lib

woeful hill Jun 26, 2025, 2:35 PM

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technology evolves

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fun fact

quick gust Jun 26, 2025, 2:35 PM

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lyric echo i like to make things i can write, have it written and it will always work same

that's a crazy standard, you shouldn't be expecting that if you're using an external service

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 2:35 PM

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Which is just a wrapper over the discord api

viscid hornet Jun 26, 2025, 2:35 PM

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fast osprey Discord discontinued the backing api. It's not the library's fault

whats the "backing api" pithink

viscid hornet Jun 26, 2025, 2:35 PM

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quick gust that's a crazy standard, you shouldn't be expecting that if you're using an exte...

should just tell bro to write his own discord

quick gust Jun 26, 2025, 2:35 PM

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yeah pull off an andrew tate

lyric echo Jun 26, 2025, 2:35 PM

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viscid hornet should just tell bro to write his own discord

once been helping in making alternative but it failed

woeful hill Jun 26, 2025, 2:36 PM

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one of the problems is too much vulnerabilities since you dont want to update it

viscid hornet Jun 26, 2025, 2:37 PM

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quick gust yeah pull off an andrew tate

andrew tate is a cutie patootie

lyric echo Jun 26, 2025, 2:37 PM

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i mostly run it for myself and if there was a token it was resetted n times…

viscid hornet Jun 26, 2025, 2:38 PM

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viscid hornet > andrew tate is a cutie patootie

@quick gust the hackers spammed the emoji picker on every guild with emoji messages like that

quick gust Jun 26, 2025, 2:38 PM

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deserved

viscid hornet Jun 26, 2025, 2:38 PM

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viscid hornet whats the "backing api" <:pithink:652247559909277706>

solstice pls

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 2:39 PM

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dpy hits a version of discord's api, discord discontinued the version of the api that dpy 1.x used

viscid hornet Jun 26, 2025, 2:40 PM

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fast osprey dpy hits a version of discord's api, discord discontinued the version of the api...

wait soooo

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OP's using like a 3yo version

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and then complaining that it doesnt work anymore?

timber dragon Jun 26, 2025, 2:41 PM

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4*

lyric echo Jun 26, 2025, 2:41 PM

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i know i was writing this when covid started, yea

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 2:42 PM

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It would be nice if apis worked eternally but that's just not practical and would severely limit dev velocity

lyric echo Jun 26, 2025, 2:43 PM

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so next project to trash, okay…

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 2:44 PM

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I mean if you throw it away that quickly without even looking at the migration guide, you really didn't care about it

lyric echo Jun 26, 2025, 2:46 PM

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i cared when i was working on it

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 2:46 PM

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That's fair, it's your call

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No, you shouldn't be using on_ready

timber dragon Jun 26, 2025, 2:49 PM

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what do you need that bool for

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 2:49 PM

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Not sure why you're wasting time changing everything but what we're telling you matters

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You don't want to use on_ready

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You might as well make a loop that runs at random intervals

timber dragon Jun 26, 2025, 2:51 PM

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you don't need on_ready, use setup_hook as we have saiid multiple times.. it's not that hard..

# subclass of commands.Bot called MyBot
class MyBot(commands.Bot):
  # override setup_hook to do stuff
  async def setup_hook(self) -> None:
    # load extension(s)
    await self.load_extension(...)

# create instance of MyBot called bot
bot = MyBot(
  command_prefix=...,
  intents=...,
  activity=...,
  status=...
)
# run bot
bot.run(...)

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no attrs or globals bs needed when you know its only called once

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 2:53 PM

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Major XY problem

timber dragon Jun 26, 2025, 2:53 PM

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why do you want to use on_ready?

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who is forcing you to use an event that can be called multiple times at runtime and is generally not recommended for doing any sort of api calls in

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 2:53 PM

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You will accomplish your actual goal if you listen to us telling you the right solution instead of deciding you already know the solution

neon veldt Jun 26, 2025, 2:54 PM

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question ?

I been trying to make my own app but it needs AI and I'm too poor to pay, would it work worth it if I use discords bots that already have to fix this issue ?

timber dragon Jun 26, 2025, 2:55 PM

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wdym by "it needs ai"?

neon veldt Jun 26, 2025, 2:56 PM

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trying to make a app that that uses AI for live reaction on gameplay and also be able to generate models like stuff for blender

viscid hornet Jun 26, 2025, 2:56 PM

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timber dragon you don't need on_ready, use setup_hook as we have saiid multiple times.. it's n...

cant you also just have setup_hook as an event?

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or is that just "it's better to just subclass atp"

timber dragon Jun 26, 2025, 2:57 PM

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no? setup_hook is called by the library after login

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it's not an event

viscid hornet Jun 26, 2025, 2:57 PM

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timber dragon it's not an event

stare

quick gust Jun 26, 2025, 2:57 PM

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pretty sure you can, although it's not the intended use

timber dragon Jun 26, 2025, 2:57 PM

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@bot.event literally calls setattr so yes that would work but no

viscid hornet Jun 26, 2025, 2:57 PM

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does it not just bind it to the bot

viscid hornet Jun 26, 2025, 2:58 PM

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timber dragon `@bot.event` literally calls setattr so yes that would work but no

yeah thats what i thought

timber dragon Jun 26, 2025, 2:58 PM

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still doesn't make it an event

viscid hornet Jun 26, 2025, 2:58 PM

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either way, gotcha thumbsup

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it's something that happens to work

quick gust Jun 26, 2025, 2:59 PM

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something that happens to work but shouldn't be used because it'll stop working and you'll be clueless

timber dragon Jun 26, 2025, 2:59 PM

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it'll be lovely to see that break in 3.0 maybe

neon veldt Jun 26, 2025, 3:02 PM

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question ?

If i want to add a free AI to a discord bot would it be better to make my own ?
any suggestions would be much appreciated.

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 3:03 PM

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You may want to review the discord dev policy and tos before you get too deep into that

neon veldt Jun 26, 2025, 3:06 PM

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fast osprey You may want to review the discord dev policy and tos before you get too deep in...

would it better to add a bot that already has AI to work with my bot or should I review the discord policy and make my own based around that

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 3:07 PM

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You should read the things you have agreed to before you do anything

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To save you a little time, it's against policy for any AI model to be trained off of user content, and it's against TOS to send any user content to a third party without that user's explicit instruction to do so

tender bobcat Jun 26, 2025, 3:16 PM

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Or just read it yourself
We are not lawyer or at least not your lawyer(at least I assume)
And out interpretation might not be correct

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 3:37 PM

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Incredibly lazy trolling

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You have been explained this multiple times

tender bobcat Jun 26, 2025, 3:39 PM

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We said it multiple time
It might get executed, it might never get executed and it can execute at multiple time randomly

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 3:39 PM

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Because there is a specific place (multiple actually) that definitively run once. You are choosing not to use them, for no reason, and instead choosing a place that runs randomly so you can check a boolean flag thousands of times

woeful hill Jun 26, 2025, 3:40 PM

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Spent time achieving something which is achievable with just moving it to setup_hook

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Crazy work

timber dragon Jun 26, 2025, 3:42 PM

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did yall just take the bait lol

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unless they're actually next level stupid

woeful hill Jun 26, 2025, 3:43 PM

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Willingly be stunlocked, while they try to make a better bait i already watched 10 youtube videos

fast osprey Jun 26, 2025, 3:43 PM

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Using on_ready here is like

did_the_thing =False
while True:
  if not did_the_thing:
    do_the_thing()
    did_the_thing = True

We're telling you to

do_the_thing()

brazen raft Jun 26, 2025, 4:39 PM

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Your definition of ready should not be when on_ready executes (read up on when it does here: https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api.html?highlight=setup_hook#discord.on_ready ).
Even if it is, most set-up steps can and are intended to be done in setup_hook.
If setup_hook is defined, the bot will call it after logging in, and crucially, exactly once for the entire duration of the bot uptime thereafter, and before any event or other action that has to do with Discord. Just don't make an API call and don't wait on Discord related events in it so you won't hang forever trying to.
There are counter arguments against using on_ready to set your bot up, but to sum it up if you're lazy to read and comprehend the docs I shared up above, just understand that this event can fire too late, leading to problems such as relying on unset state and thus raise exceptions, and that it gets fired upon every reconnect, leading to problems such as resetting/unsetting existing important state which will lead to similar exceptions or even deadlocks because you'd be relying on an event incorrectly.
With setup_hook you deal with none of this headache for the price of being unable to rely on Discord data and events for setting things up. Loading extensions/cogs in setup_hook is better unless some part of doing so requires Discord data or events, which is quite cursed in itself but whatever.
It'd be better for users to have most if not all of the functionality of the bot and its foundation fully working as soon as it goes responsive rather than deal with a waking bot with some of the functionality half ready (could lead to bad state too in this timeframe) every single time it goes online again after maintenance or arbitrary and unexpected downtimes.

timber dragon Jun 26, 2025, 4:58 PM

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You can use an asyncio task if you need to do blocking calls in setup_hook and optional even wait until ready in one them for cache:

async def on_ready_once(self):
    await self.wait_until_ready()
    ...

async def setup_hook(self):
    asyncio.create_task(self.on_ready_once())

jaunty cape Jun 26, 2025, 5:08 PM

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No

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If it works, but it works poorly there’s always a better solution

woeful hill Jun 26, 2025, 7:05 PM

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if it works don't touch it
the code:

def is_even(x):
    if x == 0:
        return True
    elif x == 1:
        return False
    elif x == 2:
        return True
    elif x == 3:
        return False
    ...

jaunty cape Jun 26, 2025, 7:27 PM

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💀

timber dragon Jun 26, 2025, 8:04 PM

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Fr

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Not even elif most of the times

viscid hornet Jun 27, 2025, 12:55 AM

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timber dragon Not even elif most of the times

let it recursively call itself by minusing two for each call and catching 0 and 1

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bonus points for inefficiency by using it with negative numbers

burnt quiver Jun 27, 2025, 2:54 AM

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woeful hill >if it works don't touch it >the code: ```py def is_even(x): if x == 0: ...

Use enumerate to generate the python code :D

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wait will that even work lol

burnt quiver Jun 27, 2025, 3:14 AM

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def custom_enum(iterable, start=0):
     count = start -1
     odd = True
     for item in iterable:
            count += 1
            if not odd:
                   yield count, item,odd
                   odd = True
            else:
                   yield count, item, odd
                   odd = False

for i, item, value in custom_enum(range(5)):
       print(f'if x == {i}: return {value}')

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It works and I did it on mobile :P so we dont talk about the indent lol

shrewd apex Jun 27, 2025, 5:44 AM

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just use % 2 == 0 😭

jaunty cape Jun 27, 2025, 6:07 AM

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no bro you don't understand

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obviously generating a 16 million line python script just to make a bunch of if statements is best practice

balmy spear Jun 27, 2025, 11:25 AM

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jaunty cape obviously generating a 16 million line python script just to make a bunch of if ...

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1 million lines of amazing code

drifting arrow Jun 27, 2025, 2:53 PM

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balmy spear 1 million lines of amazing code

How test it.
Set N1 == 578 and N2 = 666

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How long it take.

brazen root Jun 27, 2025, 4:06 PM

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That's my kinda hyperfixation task.

golden plank Jun 27, 2025, 4:32 PM

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what is going on here

balmy spear Jun 27, 2025, 5:18 PM

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drifting arrow How long it take.

oh brother it will show result maybe after 15 minutes

vocal kayak Jun 28, 2025, 2:23 PM

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Anyone know a good place to find python videos specific to discord bots? I drive alot and like to listen to them while on the road to learn but having trouble finding ones specific to discord bot making

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No real need for advanced videos as I'm beginner level

fast osprey Jun 28, 2025, 2:24 PM

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Don't watch videos to learn. Read docs and articles

vocal kayak Jun 28, 2025, 2:54 PM

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Can't do that while driving. Either podcasts or videos.

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Been slowly working my way through docs at home. But I spend most of my time on the road.

fast osprey Jun 28, 2025, 2:55 PM

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Text to speech exists

burnt quiver Jun 28, 2025, 2:56 PM

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More importantly, driving safe is what you should focus on

vocal kayak Jun 28, 2025, 2:56 PM

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No less safe than listening to the radio....

fast osprey Jun 28, 2025, 2:56 PM

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But coding is the sort of thing that benefits massively from being able to experiment alongside what you're learning. It's not the sort of thing most people can passively consume and just remember

vocal kayak Jun 28, 2025, 3:05 PM

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Yes. But this is not intended to be my sole way of learning. Just to fill gaps during down time when I can't sit on my PC and dedicate my full attention to it. Things that will talk about concepts and use cases for things I may already have a grasp of. I feel the question has started being pulled away from the original context.

rapid knoll Jun 28, 2025, 3:07 PM

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is it possible to get a guild that the bot isn't in, i'm not looking for much just member counts and simple stuff like that

fast osprey Jun 28, 2025, 3:14 PM

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No, all you get is what's on the guild preview if it has one

wise mica Jun 28, 2025, 3:21 PM

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vocal kayak Anyone know a good place to find python videos specific to discord bots? I drive...

You're probably going to struggle a lot finding this content, there's not a lot of great content for discord bot in general. And pretty much everything I have seen pretty much requires a visual element.

You would be better of learning python in general, or maybe long form stuff on async

scenic pike Jun 28, 2025, 4:31 PM

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How can i get random video from tiktok with specific tag than send it to specific channel

viscid hornet Jun 28, 2025, 4:58 PM

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scenic pike How can i get random video from tiktok with specific tag than send it to specifi...

check if tiktok has a public API

stark ingot Jun 28, 2025, 7:21 PM

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vocal kayak Anyone know a good place to find python videos specific to discord bots? I drive...

Are you planning on making a bot from scratch or using a library?

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I agree with what midget said above. Discord Bots are not a deep enough topic to have more than a little bit of podcast style content.
The core things they use are APIs, rate limits, web socket connections, event handling, and sometimes databases. None of these things are specific to discord bots but can be explored individually

vocal kayak Jun 28, 2025, 8:38 PM

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stark ingot Are you planning on making a bot from scratch or using a library?

I would like to be able to make one from scratch if needed but I would use libraries for handling specific things like ui elements . But like I said before I am a beginner . I know the basics of python. But I am using discord bot as a way to learn how to use it. And how to learn working with api's and libraries. Possibly how to handle info that would be saved based on the user ( like coin flip game that saves how much money you have ) these things I can look up individually and learn as people have suggested. And I do intend to as I get the time. But until I get the chance to sit down at my PC I would like something I could listen to.

young dagger Jun 28, 2025, 8:57 PM

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Should I be using pytz or zoneinfo for timezone objects?

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I want to keep track of a specific time zone including DST

timber dragon Jun 28, 2025, 9:18 PM

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I don't see why you wouldn't use the stdlib over a package

hallow nova Jun 29, 2025, 7:28 AM

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hello guys

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who need an discord bot

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I can create it for like 10-15 dollars

jaunty cape Jun 29, 2025, 7:33 AM

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hallow nova who need an discord bot

Wrong indefinite article

hallow nova Jun 29, 2025, 7:33 AM

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?

jaunty cape Jun 29, 2025, 7:33 AM

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Also

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!rule 9

unkempt canyonBOT Jun 29, 2025, 7:33 AM

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Rules

9. Do not offer or ask for paid work of any kind.

hallow nova Jun 29, 2025, 7:33 AM

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ohh

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I didn't know

jaunty cape Jun 29, 2025, 7:33 AM

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hallow nova ?

I said wrong indefinite article Ibn kalb

hallow nova Jun 29, 2025, 7:33 AM

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my bad

desert cosmos Jun 29, 2025, 10:45 AM

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Which one is more recommended discord.js or discord.py, for speed and feature richness ?

timber dragon Jun 29, 2025, 10:46 AM

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djs for speed and dpy for features IMO

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But these are two different languages

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Also there are more python libraries than just dpy btw

desert cosmos Jun 29, 2025, 10:48 AM

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Actually I used to use dpy some 2 3 years ago now I am learning js for work and stuff so I have been pondering over options.
Also djs has some reputation for consistency which discord.py has lost over past years. (thats what google says)

timber dragon Jun 29, 2025, 10:49 AM

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Isn't it the opposite?

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I heard that djs often changes things in minor version bumps

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Sure dpy has been "slow" lately but that's also because it's maintained one person vs a whole team

desert cosmos Jun 29, 2025, 10:50 AM

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I heard that dpy was discontinued and then people started exploring other alternatives and then it was reinstigated.

desert cosmos Jun 29, 2025, 10:51 AM

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timber dragon Sure dpy has been "slow" lately but that's also because it's maintained one pers...

I wonder why don't they add more members to the core team, I am sure many might be willing to contribute.

fast osprey Jun 29, 2025, 10:53 AM

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desert cosmos I heard that dpy was discontinued and then people started exploring other altern...

This was several years ago, and discord loves parroting old Reddit posts

timber dragon Jun 29, 2025, 10:53 AM

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Yes it was discontinued for ~6 months and continued when there were no good alternatives according to the maintainer

For more information, see:
[2021-8-28] Danny stops dpy development: https://gist.github.com/Rapptz/4a2f62751b9600a31a0d3c78100287f1
[2022-3-06] Danny starts dpy development again, after announcement of v10: https://gist.github.com/Rapptz/c4324f17a80c94776832430007ad40e6

timber dragon Jun 29, 2025, 10:53 AM

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desert cosmos I wonder why don't they add more members to the core team, I am sure many might ...

Not sure either

fast osprey Jun 29, 2025, 10:59 AM

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timber dragon djs for speed and dpy for features IMO

Also "speed" requires a little more nuance here, as in 99.9% of cases this is imperceptible on the order of fractions of seconds. It really doesn't matter

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Unless your discord bot is a wrapper over like low level hardware architecture somehow

stark ingot Jun 29, 2025, 12:10 PM

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fast osprey This was several years ago, and discord loves parroting old Reddit posts

Old does not really matter. That event will be relevant to people choosing a library for many more years.

fast osprey Jun 29, 2025, 12:13 PM

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O...kay?

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People are welcome to use whatever criteria they want, doesnt mean they're good criteria

sage abyss Jun 29, 2025, 12:56 PM

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g

hollow yacht Jun 29, 2025, 1:04 PM

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how can i save each users last two mesages?

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for each user

tender bobcat Jun 29, 2025, 1:06 PM

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Use a database
Also why?

hollow yacht Jun 29, 2025, 1:06 PM

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cuz i want like anti spam system so if mesages same it would delete mesage before and how to use database im new

tender bobcat Jun 29, 2025, 1:09 PM

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-# Note 1: It would be better to use any well established product than implement it by just yourself. For example, if my first message and second message have a single (a space character) difference, it won't get deleted. Or if a user send Hi 30 days apart, it's considered spam.
-# Note 2: If you are new, you shouldn't take discord bot as a first project. It is the most often told and most often ignored advice

You would have to learn SQL

hollow yacht Jun 29, 2025, 1:10 PM

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no i meant not to python but python bots

tender bobcat Jun 29, 2025, 1:12 PM

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?

hollow yacht Jun 29, 2025, 1:12 PM

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the new part

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im not very new to python more like middle

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but new to discord bots

tender bobcat Jun 29, 2025, 1:13 PM

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So what is OOP, async?

hollow yacht Jun 29, 2025, 1:13 PM

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well not that advenced

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i can say

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but like def while etc

tender bobcat Jun 29, 2025, 1:14 PM

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Function?

hollow yacht Jun 29, 2025, 1:14 PM

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def

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if im right

tender bobcat Jun 29, 2025, 1:14 PM

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How much do you know about function?

hollow yacht Jun 29, 2025, 1:15 PM

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not very much i learnt about def not too long ago

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like this month

tender bobcat Jun 29, 2025, 1:16 PM

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Anyway, you should still:

learn about OOP
Read at least 1 or 2 article about async
Learn SQL
Learn more about function
Learn how to use a async library for database with SQL in python
Read the tutorial on how to create a bot in discord.py documentation

hollow yacht Jun 29, 2025, 1:16 PM

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okay thanks

slate swan Jun 29, 2025, 1:32 PM

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tender bobcat -# Note 1: It would be better to use any well established product than implement...

can be prevented by checking send date of both msgs but @hollow yacht dc itself prevents spamming and if someone still manages to spam smh then put the server's mods to work lol

tender bobcat Jun 29, 2025, 1:33 PM

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slate swan can be prevented by checking send date of both msgs but <@1187666046044356608> d...

This assume you know the existence of both messages
Which mean you still need a database

fast osprey Jun 29, 2025, 1:35 PM

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And if you're storing message content, you'll want to read the TOS closely on what your obligations are

tender bobcat Jun 29, 2025, 2:01 PM

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fast osprey And if you're storing message content, you'll want to read the TOS closely on wh...

Regardless, you should still read the ToS closely

stark ingot Jun 29, 2025, 5:20 PM

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Just use a cache, no need for a database if you are detecting spam.

civic bobcat Jun 29, 2025, 5:20 PM

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guys

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I am trying to make a discord wrapper from scratch. I am having problems with websockets handling

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I wanted to make a custom wrapper just for me and learn as well. Anyone here have experience with websockets library?

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particularly 1006 error code (Abnormal close)

tender bobcat Jun 29, 2025, 8:22 PM

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Have you managed to establish websocket connection that isn't to discord? (Like just any, maybe your code communicating with your code)

unkempt galleon Jun 29, 2025, 9:08 PM

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how do i fix this python error C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\Boost Bot V3 SRC\main.py:293: SyntaxWarning: invalid escape sequence '['
os.system("clear && printf '[3J'")
C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\ Bot V3 SRC\main.py:315: SyntaxWarning: invalid escape sequence '\ '
/\ == \ /\ \ /\ \ /\ \ /_ \ /\ == \ /\ \ /
C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\ Bot V3 SRC\main.py:564: SyntaxWarning: invalid escape sequence '\ '
/\ == \ /\ \ /\ \ /\ \ /_ \ /\ == \ /\ \ /
there is a invalid excape sequence

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how do i fix that? im pretty sure thats easy for a coder. Im not a coder

full lily Jun 29, 2025, 9:08 PM

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whats the context of that line

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why do you have a bunch of backslashes and slashes and dashes

unkempt galleon Jun 29, 2025, 9:09 PM

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full lily why do you have a bunch of backslashes and slashes and dashes

i didn't code it

full lily Jun 29, 2025, 9:09 PM

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you should make it a raw string. The backslash has a special meaning

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r"this is a raw string"

unkempt galleon Jun 29, 2025, 9:09 PM

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where do i input that

full lily Jun 29, 2025, 9:09 PM

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but its hard to tell whats going on in that line

unkempt galleon Jun 29, 2025, 9:09 PM

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could you call for 2 seconds

full lily Jun 29, 2025, 9:09 PM

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line 315 and 564

unkempt galleon Jun 29, 2025, 9:10 PM

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ill share my screen for second

full lily Jun 29, 2025, 9:10 PM

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you can send a screenshot

fast osprey Jun 29, 2025, 9:11 PM

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If you're not a coder, are you just hoping we'll fix it for you?

unkempt galleon Jun 29, 2025, 9:11 PM

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fast osprey If you're not a coder, are you just hoping we'll fix it for you?

im askinf for help

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calm the heck down lol

fast osprey Jun 29, 2025, 9:11 PM

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Nice projection

full lily Jun 29, 2025, 9:11 PM

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Can you send a screenshot of what's around those two lines?

unkempt galleon Jun 29, 2025, 9:12 PM

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full lily Can you send a screenshot of what's around those two lines?

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full lily Jun 29, 2025, 9:15 PM

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you need to make that whole thing a raw string

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r"""
booster
"""

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note the r

unkempt galleon Jun 29, 2025, 9:15 PM

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which line

full lily Jun 29, 2025, 9:16 PM

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before the quotes

unkempt galleon Jun 29, 2025, 9:16 PM

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full lily before the quotes

on 320?

full lily Jun 29, 2025, 9:16 PM

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no the starting quotes

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not ending ones

unkempt galleon Jun 29, 2025, 9:17 PM

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print("\033[95m")
print("""

                                LOGIN PAGE

""")
print("\033[0m") # Reset color

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on one of these correct?

full lily Jun 29, 2025, 9:19 PM

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The reason why you're getting an error is because python is trying to use the bacsklash in your ascii art as an escape character, but it's not valid. To make python ignore backslashes as being special inside of a string, you make it a raw string. So you prefix the string with an r

"i am a string"
r"i am a raw string"

r"""
I am also a raw string
"""

unkempt galleon Jun 29, 2025, 9:20 PM

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What is the string i don't know anything about python, im just wondering if you could inform me on what line to input that in.

full lily Jun 29, 2025, 9:21 PM

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strings are sequences of characters

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like words, letters, sentences

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it's a fundamental type

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You know it's a string if it's surrounded by quotes

unkempt galleon Jun 29, 2025, 9:22 PM

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unkempt galleon

would i input it on 294 or 321

full lily Jun 29, 2025, 9:23 PM

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Line 321 is fine. The stuff you see inside of that string tells the terminal to display text that comes after it in a certain colour

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or to remove the colour in that case

full lily Jun 29, 2025, 9:24 PM

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unkempt galleon how do i fix this python error C:\Users\Administrator\Desktop\Boost Bot V3 SRC\m...

your errors are on line 315 and 564

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so go to the two strings that are on those lines and prefix them with an r

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the r should go before the first quote

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I'm sure you already know this, but it's not a good idea to run code from untrusted sources if you don't know what it does

unkempt galleon Jun 29, 2025, 9:27 PM

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full lily I'm sure you already know this, but it's not a good idea to run code from untrus...

yea im running it on a vps to be a little extra safe i appreacite that advice though

unkempt galleon Jun 29, 2025, 9:29 PM

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full lily the r should go before the first quote

did i do that right lol

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would you be able to input it if i copy and pasted the code please

full lily Jun 29, 2025, 9:30 PM

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idk man. Try it

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run the code

unkempt galleon Jun 29, 2025, 9:32 PM

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full lily idk man. Try it

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i think i did it wrong for sure

full lily Jun 29, 2025, 9:33 PM

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your error is on line 293

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oh yeah you did it wrong. No space after r

unkempt galleon Jun 29, 2025, 9:33 PM

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full lily oh yeah you did it wrong. No space after `r`

the code went red when i did that

fast osprey Jun 29, 2025, 9:33 PM

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They want you to paste the correct code so they can copy it, they don't know how to code and they said that

full lily Jun 29, 2025, 9:33 PM

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and you have another error on line 293 it seems. Not sure what's supposed to be there though. It's an ansi escape code for colour formatting so you could remove it and it would work fine

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!e

r"""
test
"""

unkempt canyonBOT Jun 29, 2025, 9:34 PM

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full lily !e ```py r""" test """ ```

:warning: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 0.

[No output]

full lily Jun 29, 2025, 9:34 PM

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yeah no error so should be valid

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are you running python 2?

unkempt galleon Jun 29, 2025, 9:34 PM

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no im running python 3.11

full lily Jun 29, 2025, 9:34 PM

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!e

r """
test
"""

unkempt canyonBOT Jun 29, 2025, 9:34 PM

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full lily !e ```py r """ test """ ```

:x: Your 3.13 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 |   File [35m"/home/main.py"[0m, line [35m1[0m
002 |     r [1;31m"""[0m
003 |       [1;31m^^^[0m
004 | [1;35mSyntaxError[0m: [35minvalid syntax[0m

full lily Jun 29, 2025, 9:34 PM

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ah yeah look

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no space

unkempt galleon Jun 29, 2025, 9:35 PM

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os.system("clear && printf '\e[3J'")

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could you paste it in there

full lily Jun 29, 2025, 9:36 PM

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you got it bro

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make it a raw string. Same as the other one

unkempt galleon Jun 29, 2025, 9:37 PM

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os.system(r"clear && printf '\e[3J'")

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like that?

full lily Jun 29, 2025, 9:37 PM

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give it a go

unkempt galleon Jun 29, 2025, 9:38 PM

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doesn't that mean its a error? when it turns red

full lily Jun 29, 2025, 9:38 PM

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don't trust whether it turns red or not. Yes, it's supposed to help you spot syntax errors but if you haven't configured your code editor then I wouldn't trust it

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the real test is to just run the code and see if the interpreter spits out an error

unkempt galleon Jun 29, 2025, 9:41 PM

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print("\033[95m")
print("""

/\ == \ /\ __ \ /\ __ \ /\ \ /_ \ /\ == \ /\ __ \ /_ \
\ \ < \ \ /\ \ \ \ /\ \ \ _ \ //\ / \ \ __< \ \ /\ \ //\ /
\ _\ \ _\ \ _\ /_\ \ _\ \ _\ \ _\ \ _\
// // // // // // // /_/
LOGIN PAGE
""")
print("\033[0m") # Reset color

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it says error on 315 and 321

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anyway you could just input it bro im like a toddler learning to speak when it comes to coding.

full lily Jun 29, 2025, 9:43 PM

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yes but you won't learn if I do it for you

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did you save the files? I feel like you modified these lines already? Or was that a different line?

unkempt galleon Jun 29, 2025, 9:44 PM

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yes i saved it ctrl s

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that was a differnt line i didn't touch those yet because i don't know what im doing

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i have to leave for work in 30 minutes im just trying to get this running

full lily Jun 29, 2025, 9:44 PM

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you do know. I explained to you how to find what line the error is on, and you already fixed a couple of these successfully

fast osprey Jun 29, 2025, 9:44 PM

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If you want someone to fix it without you showing any effort to learn, you should hire someone or go to whoever wrote this code

full lily Jun 29, 2025, 9:44 PM

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it's the same thing over :)

unkempt galleon Jun 29, 2025, 9:45 PM

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fast osprey If you want someone to fix it without you showing any effort to learn, you shoul...

bro im trying to learn i just don't understand lol

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im trying to understand what he is saying i don't though

full lily Jun 29, 2025, 9:45 PM

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you need to make it a raw string again

unkempt galleon Jun 29, 2025, 9:45 PM

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so how are you gonna tell me im not trying like get a life and quit spectating discord chats buddy

full lily Jun 29, 2025, 9:45 PM

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because the backslashes are treated as special characters (which you don't want in this case)

fast osprey Jun 29, 2025, 9:46 PM

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You need to have fundamental python knowledge to make these changes. There isn't a shortcut

full lily Jun 29, 2025, 9:46 PM

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unkempt galleon im trying to understand what he is saying i don't though

I can reiterate if you tell me what you're confused about

unkempt galleon Jun 29, 2025, 9:47 PM

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full lily I can reiterate if you tell me what you're confused about

Okay im confused about a string like is it the print?

full lily Jun 29, 2025, 9:47 PM

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print is a function which takes a string. The string is everything that's wrapped in quotes

unkempt galleon Jun 29, 2025, 9:47 PM

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fast osprey You need to have fundamental python knowledge to make these changes. There isn't...

i mean there is for sure a shortcut if you can get some help i understand you don't like helping but thats not my problem keep it moving bud.

fast osprey Jun 29, 2025, 9:48 PM

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I'm not going to be silenced by you

unkempt galleon Jun 29, 2025, 9:48 PM

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fast osprey I'm not going to be silenced by you

💀 anyways....

unkempt galleon Jun 29, 2025, 9:49 PM

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full lily print is a function which takes a string. The string is everything that's wrappe...

okay i think i understand that so /033 would be the string since its wrapped it qoutes here?

full lily Jun 29, 2025, 9:49 PM

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yes

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the backslash here is used for an ANSI escape code which the terminal uses to give formatting