discord-bots

[oblique laurel]

https://ah1rdy.github.io/botanica/

still under-development but i'd like your opinions :33

[unreal owl]

Is there a way to get if a player ran a command from another bot? (listener)

[unreal owl]

Kinda boring...

[sick birch]

If the bots are in different process it’ll be kinda annoying because you’ll need IPC

You could use sockets or a standalone message broker/queue

[unreal owl]

hm, never heard of these tbh... Like use case would be:
Someone bumps the server with /bump (disboard) and he gets like 1 vote key he can use somewhere

[fast osprey]

Interactions are sent directly to the bot. If you are interested in integrating with someone else's bot, you should contact them to establish a reliable api for doing so

[oblique laurel]

Well I guess maybe you should use the other bot token? And combine it with your current bot script??

Idrk about bots much cuz I’m new to this type of stuff so. 🤔

[stark ingot]

The interaction_metadata attribute of interactions has this information.
https://discord.com/developers/docs/resources/message#message-interaction-metadata-object
There is also the deprecated interaction attribute that still exists but is not recommended that contains the name of the command run.
https://discord.com/developers/docs/interactions/receiving-and-responding#message-interaction-object-message-interaction-structure

[fast osprey]

This assumes that the other bot responds non-ephemerally, that it continues to do so, and that the structure/name/id of the command doesn't change

[novel quest]

What's the best way to learn discord.py package cuz yt tutorials so outdated

[wanton current]

reading the docs and examples

looking at code

and asking for help when ur stuck

either here or preferably in the d.py server

[glad cradle]

there's also a good guide around

https://fallendeity.github.io/discord.py-masterclass/

[vapid parcel]

is there a way to upload images to the emoji area for the bot, through the bot?

idk if that makes any sense, but someone will understand hopefully lol

[quick gust]

Which library?

!d discord.ext.commands.Bot.create_application_emoji if dpy

[unkempt canyon]

discord.ext.commands.Bot.create\_application\_emoji

await create_application_emoji(*, name, image)```
This function is a [*coroutine*](https://docs.python.org/3/library/asyncio-task.html#coroutine).

Create an emoji for the current application.

New in version 2.5.

[quick gust]

Doesn't exist yet for disnake

[vapid parcel]

alr, ty

yeah, i only use dpy

[sterile eagle]

how can i make a terminal discord client with discord.py-self that i can view my DMS, group chats and also send messages on them on terminal without using the discord app

[fast osprey]

This is against tos

[naive briar]

Why though

-# why would they make that, I mean

[sick birch]

always wanted to make a TUI client like that but discord is mean

[timber dragon]

why would you ask about that here

[mental forge]

Is this an area to test discord bots

[tender bobcat]

no

[mental forge]

Ok

[tender bobcat]

For questions and discussions relating to Discord bot development with discord.py and other relevant Python libraries.
To test discord bot, go to your own server :)

[mental forge]

I understand it was just wondering because it's easier to get it if it can be on discord server itself so others can see the command output to beginners who don't have to go from one place to another in rapid succession

[tender bobcat]

It would make the server inherently unsafe if bot were allowed
E.g. automod would be bypassed for bot, can perform more action in rapid succession etc.

Can also malicious purpose like message listener and store in database for idk what usage

[hard fern]

Yo @ancient temple, you receive my email?

Also, please dm me.

[mental forge]

I'm sorry I thought there was a botcommand section
That might just be for pylance

How do I get the token

Where do I find the token?

[fast osprey]

What do you mean by the token

[mental forge]

client.run('my token goes here')

[fast osprey]

Have you followed your library's getting started guide?

[mental forge]

yes i have the code all typed up and that line uses a token

[fast osprey]

What guide are you using

[mental forge]

https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/intro.html

[fast osprey]

https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/discord.html#discord-intro

[mental forge]

Token collected

[quaint solstice]

how should i name this tool

[timber dragon]

"Webhook Manager" maybe?

[last cradle]

Webhook Man

this python bot has the option to show the users decoration on the avatar command how

also how to get the primary and accent of a nitro user

[stark ingot]

The user object has avatar_decoration_data and accent_color attributes https://discord.com/developers/docs/resources/user#users-resource

[woeful hill]

WeMan couldve been a banger name

[pure sequoia]

!e import antigravity

[unkempt canyon]

:warning: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

[No output]

[viscid hornet]

what

[viscid hornet]

i'm pretty sure it opens a browser page. that's why you get no output

[pure sequoia]

yuh

[paper monolith]

i dont understand something in making bots

can someone help

[sick birch]

only if you ask

[paper monolith]

ask what

[pale zenith]

If you need help, you need to ask for it. We aren't mind-readers so unless you tell us what you don't understand, we aren't going to be able to help you.

[paper monolith]

i dont understand how to make the bot i tried using discord.py in visual studio code but like idk

[sick birch]

Try giving this a read https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/intro.html

[paper monolith]

should i be honest

i really dont understand anything here

in that site

[timber dragon]

See these

https://automatetheboringstuff.com/ (for complete beginners to programming)

https://docs.python.org/3/tutorial/ (official tutorial)
http://python.swaroopch.com/ (useful book)
http://greenteapress.com/wp/think-python-2e/ (another decent book)

http://www.codeabbey.com/ (exercises for beginners)
https://realpython.com/ (good articles on specific topics)
https://learnxinyminutes.com/docs/python3/ (cheatsheet)

[stark ingot]

Discord bots are not a good first project for beginners. You should have a good understanding of the foundations of programming and preferably some knowledge of OOP concepts

[frank osprey]

^^oh and if you think after reading that you still want to ? well take it from me who did it and now im burned out and really struggling getting back in to python dont do it.

[tepid comet]

!e
while True:
print(hi)

[unkempt canyon]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "/home/main.py", line 2, in <module>
003 |     print(hi)
004 |           ^^
005 | NameError: name 'hi' is not defined

[tepid comet]

ops

!e
while True:
print('hi')

[unkempt canyon]

:x: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 143 (SIGTERM).

001 | hi
002 | hi
003 | hi
004 | hi
005 | hi
006 | hi
007 | hi
008 | hi
009 | hi
010 | hi
... (truncated - too many lines)

Full output: too long to upload

[timber dragon]

Nice try

[frank osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/whale-whale-sharks-gif-26141128

[lapis lintel]

How should I implement a webpage for my bot's settings? Post to a webhook the user settings to the bot? check the db for user settings on demand?

[sick birch]

yes, you should use a database which both the bot and webpage can query (through an API, most likely)

[tight obsidian]

https://discord.com/developers/docs/resources/message#create-message-jsonform-params

Message contents (up to 2000 characters)
This is ambiguous... What does Discord consider a character here? A codepoint? A byte? A grapheme?

[last cradle]

how to go about making commands that convert a video to a audio file and making a image transparent

no asking to be spoonfeed

[timber dragon]

Codepoint. Considering that ZWS, etc., count as one "character".

[tight obsidian]

That's strange, because if I try using 1000 ducks inside of a code block, it's telling me that I'm exceeding 2000 characters. Maybe it's Discord's client and the backend not agreeing on what length a message is?

(a 🦆 is a single Unicode codepoint, but two UTF-16 units)

[timber dragon]

Hm. I guess it's counted differently inside codeblocks

2000 ducks as plain text works fine

I never really questioned it

[tight obsidian]

When I try pasting 2000 ducks in a plain message, Discord just freezes

[timber dragon]

🦆*2000

Works fine lol

[tight obsidian]

maybe let's not spam in this channel

[timber dragon]

Ome duck counts as 2 chars apparently

[tight obsidian]

(maybe you have nitro, hence the 4000 character limit)

[timber dragon]

Oh yeah

But I did the same thing via a bot

[slate swan]

Hello

[unkempt canyon]

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For more information, take a read of the documentation. If you run code through your editor, check its documentation on how to make it use your virtual environment. For example, see the VSCode or PyCharm docs.

Tools such as poetry and pipenv can manage the creation of virtual environments as well as project dependencies, making packaging and installing your project easier.

Note: When using PowerShell in Windows, you may need to change the execution policy first. This is only required once per user:

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[last cradle]

dont be shy ;3

[fast osprey]

Converting files isn't at all discord related

[unkempt canyon]

Please react with ✅ to upload your file(s) to our paste bin, which is more accessible for some users.

[silent olive]

hey guys

I have a question im using visual studio code

my run button isn’t there anymore and im not sure what I should do

[bright oasis]

Hello, I need help with my anti-ban. When a member is banned, the bot does nothing and does not send any logs. https://paste.pythondiscord.com/XHKA

[brave niche]

I haven't used VS in a while, but have you tried right-clicking in the top right corner where it should be, and see if you can un-hide it? The other reason that comes to mind is if your file doesn't have a file-extension on it that VS recognizes?

Also does hitting F5 work?

[silent olive]

Lemme try

my f5 button is the mute button

[brave niche]

Function-F5 on your keyboard then perhaps?

F5 is 'run in debugger' by default in VS

[silent olive]

im new to coding

[brave niche]

Welcome to the jungle!

[silent olive]

thanks

I think it’s bc I downloaded the jupyter notebook

and then I deleted it then that’s when the runner got deleted

[fast osprey]

If you don't want someone banning people, they shouldn't be given that permission in the first place. Having your bot try to clean that up isn't going to do literally anything against someone who is actually motivated

[shell sinew]

helloo i am super new to coding, and I am trying to connect my discord bot to my code on virtual studio code and for some reason it is giving me a syntax error when i ran python3 with the name on the file in my terminal

[viscid hornet]

are you gonna show us the error?

and that makes me think you're probably not equipped enough to make a discord bot

[shell sinew]

yes yes sorry i opened a help ticket it was because i was still in REPL in my terminal

[shell sinew]

i said i am new 😭 im learning how to atm

[viscid hornet]

how to learn python or how to make a discord bot

[shell sinew]

both

[viscid hornet]

!res - learn python first then

[unkempt canyon]

Resources

The Resources page on our website contains a list of hand-selected learning resources that we regularly recommend to both beginners and experts.

[viscid hornet]

discord bots require some relatively advanced concepts (stuff like OOP, async programming, etc)

they are not intended for beginners

!projects - a few of these are, so i recommend those instead

[unkempt canyon]

Kindling Projects

The Kindling projects page on Ned Batchelder's website contains a list of projects and ideas programmers can tackle to build their skills and knowledge.

[shell sinew]

ahhh true true but i think i could probably figure it out over time, ill do those in the meantime to learn as i do the bot as well, i have some friends helping me as well but they are busy so i sought out help here, thank you tho!! i

[viscid hornet]

no problem

if you ever get stuck,
feel free to make a help post

[timber dragon]

https://discord.com/channels/267624335836053506/1356872804771041370 lol

[tender bobcat]

Also for reference, the package I referenced there is certifi
But I don't think it install that either

[rapid knoll]

is there an event for when somone boots your discord server?

[fast osprey]

Nope

[tender bobcat]

Messages/role change listener? For announcement message/booster role

[stark ingot]

^^
Not 100% accurate as you might not have those things set up. But this seems like a case that it is the users fault if they don't have it set up, not the bots fault

[fast osprey]

You can listen for the system message, this is brittle and will give you false negatives. I have yet to see a use case for this that isn't just repeating what discord does but with cuter language

[velvet jolt]

Guys, I need help. I use wispbyte.com to host my discord bot, and I deleted a server there that has the code scripts of the bot, they contain slash commands, after i deleted the server, the slash commands are still there appearing when I type '/', any way to remove them?

[woeful hill]

You need to sync again to notify discord these dont exist anymore

[stark ingot]

Not really your place to say what is/is not a valid use case unless it is breaking TOS.
It really does not matter if the user is reinventing the wheel, it is their project.

[fast osprey]

I'm entitled to my opinion, as you are yours. Nobody is claiming tos or that people can't do things

Feel free to make your case of what the use cases are that aren't met, but trying to systemically shut me up isn't really a good look

[tender bobcat]

I haven't find a way to delete booster role yet

[fast osprey]

discord automatically grants and removes the booster role in the server settings

[tender bobcat]

Might just be my phone app ig

(I mean changing the role)

[fast osprey]

as in changing the role that's given/removed?

[tender bobcat]

Yes

If it exist, then have to check if bot can see which role is booster role

[fast osprey]

What are you trying to accomplish with your bot?

[tender bobcat]

Not my bot but I'm thinking how can I help accomplish that
Just trying to think some more idea and in more depth

[unkempt canyon]

Available tags

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To show a tag, use /tag <tagname>. (Page 3/8)

[elder geyser]

hello i keep getting
log(logging.WARNING, "Command", "Update command failed: No embed to update.") File "/home/container/bot/mtg_cogs/cog_mtg_manager.py", line 16, in MtgEmbedManager self, ctx: discord.Interaction, content: app_commands.Option(str, description="The initial embed content.")): ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ AttributeError: module 'discord.app_commands' has no attribute 'Option'

i have app_commands imported though

and yes ive tried ai to fix but that dumb thing cant fix it either

[fast osprey]

What library are you using?

[brave niche]

https://github.com/Rapptz/discord.py/blob/master/discord/app_commands/commands.py#L79-L100 doesn’t show “Option” as one of the commands

[elder geyser]

import discord
from discord.ext import commands
import logging
from bot.common.utils import log
import bot.common.mtg_database as db
import os
from discord import app_commands

[brave niche]

Maybe you want “choices”? Not sure, haven’t used this lib

[fast osprey]

^

[elder geyser]

https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/interactions/api.html?highlight=option#discord.app_commands.AppCommand.options

[stark ingot]

I could not remember if you could disable the role, but I know you can disable the message

[brave niche]

You have Option though not “options” in your code

[elder geyser]

I've tried both

[fast osprey]

What library (and version) do you have installed

[elder geyser]

of discord?

[fast osprey]

yeah

[elder geyser]

I have 2.5.2

[fast osprey]

of what library

[elder geyser]

idk wym

discord and discord ext

[fast osprey]

discord ext isn't a library

discord is a mirror of discord.py though

Anywho, what are you trying to accomplish? This isn't how you do things in discord.py

[elder geyser]

main.py loads cogs in other directories, this is a cog that is supposed to create an embed in a specified channel then let me edit the embed from a second command

[fast osprey]

specifically what you're trying to do with option

[elder geyser]

it's in the command to give me the option to put content into the embed as well as create the embed

it has a database to store the message Id and channel ID

if u want I can give access on sparked host if you wanna look at it fully

[fast osprey]

are you just trying to declare a string parameter?

[elder geyser]

basically but I want it to show as an option

[fast osprey]

what do you mean by "as an option"

[elder geyser]

@app_commands.command(name="update_mtg_embed", description="Updates the persistent MTG embed.") @app_commands.guilds(discord.Object(id=int(os.getenv("GUILD_ID")))) async def update_mtg_embed( self, ctx: discord.Interaction, new_content: app_commands.Option(str, description="The new embed content.") ):

this is where it is being used

[fast osprey]

It's unclear what you're trying to do, in discord, that the user would see

[brave niche]

So you’re trying to prompt the user for a parameter named “new_content”?

[elder geyser]

this

but instead

whats shown above

[elder geyser]

im just trying to have it create the embed with this: @app_commands.command(name="create_mtg_embed", description="Creates a persistent MTG embed.")
@app_commands.guilds(discord.Object(id=int(os.getenv("GUILD_ID"))))
async def create_mtg_embed(
self, ctx: discord.Interaction, content: app_commands.Option(str, description="The initial embed content.")):
embed = discord.Embed(title="Persistent MTG Embed", description=content)
await ctx.response.send_message(embed=embed, wait=True) # Use ctx.response
db.store_ids(ctx.channel_id, ctx.channel_id)
await ctx.response.send_message("Embed created and IDs stored.", ephemeral=True) # Use ctx.response
log(logging.INFO, "Command", f"Embed created in channel {ctx.channel.id} with message ID from interaction")
where it asks for channel then stores message id and channel ID

then have the command before that edit it '

[fast osprey]

What do you want the user to input

[elder geyser]

for which one?

for create i want the channel id

[fast osprey]

You have one parameter

[elder geyser]

for the edit i just want it to edit the embed with what they type

[fast osprey]

called content

You want them to just type a string, like I asked earlier?

[elder geyser]

a string that goes into an embed

first command i want a channel

[fast osprey]

What you do with the parameter is irrelevant

you're having an issue just declaring the parameter

If you want the user to input a string, just typehint the parameter with str

nothing fancy, no Option or whatever

[elder geyser]

ok and what abt the channel ID one?

[fast osprey]

I have no idea what you're talking about

[elder geyser]

i want /create_mtg_embed (insert channel)

[fast osprey]

You want the user to specify a channel in the current guild?

[elder geyser]

then /update_mtg_embed (string)

[elder geyser]

yes

[fast osprey]

What kind of channel?

[elder geyser]

normal text channel

[fast osprey]

Then you can typehint with discord.TextChannel

[elder geyser]

i got it working, thank you

[rapid knoll]

I know discord has a form app like feature that discord bots can use, is there a way to use it in discord.py and if so whats the module for it or is it unavailable?

[woeful hill]

you meant modal?

[rapid knoll]

yeah

[languid jungle]

I think you're referring to modals https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/interactions/api.html?highlight=modal#discord.ui.Modal
This page is a 3rd party tutorial on how to use it: https://fallendeity.github.io/discord.py-masterclass/views/#modals

[woeful hill]

https://github.com/Rapptz/discord.py/blob/master/examples/modals/basic.py

official example

[rapid knoll]

oh yeah another thing slightly off topic from what I asked but for some reason things like app_commands and ui dont show up in the list of modules. but I have latest version, is that just an editor bug or did I do something wrong

[languid jungle]

which editor do you use? also, are you using a virtual environment?

[rapid knoll]

I am using Visual Studio Code with no virtual environment

oh and I have discord.py-message-components~=1.7.5.4 this installed too, I feel like this is the issue, but I wanted to ask before doing anything.

[woeful hill]

Likely

Can you do pip freeze

[rapid knoll]

ok I got it working discord.py-message-components uses an older version of discord.py and it replaces a bunch of stuff with its own stuff so I am now using a venv for my project and it all works now.

[languid jungle]

nice!

[hearty basalt]

t

[jolly geyser]

Hello devs!
Could anyone please explain how tools like https://discord.id work?

I find it interesting because many things that discord api provides requires authorization

[fast osprey]

Rather than us speculate what other devs are doing, have you tried asking them?

The discord api is pretty well documented, and while it does require authorization I'm not sure how that's relevant here unless you're assuming that they aren't authorizing

[jolly geyser]

Discord bot dev requires some interaction with the api ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[jolly geyser]

It is well documented, I did get everything from id except the account age (when the user created an account) when I was trying on my own.

[fast osprey]

https://discord.com/developers/docs/resources/user#user-object even the endpoint the site tells you to use doesn't provide account creation date

(however, the creation date of any snowflake id is baked into the snowflake itself)

[jolly geyser]

Yeah I was thinking to either find a way to get creation date via api or just reverse the snowflake id somehow

[fast osprey]

The api doesn't give it to you, but you can do some pretty simple bit operations to get it from the snowflake

[jolly geyser]

I just wanted to know if it's possible to get creation date via api
And now I know it's not!
Looks like it's time to reverse the snowflake!!
I saw in discord api docs how the snowflake is generated etc.

Anyway that's all
Thank you very much and have a great time!

[fast osprey]

good luck 👍

[jolly geyser]

Thanks!

[tender bobcat]

Account age is embed in the user id

In fact it's literally documented
https://discord.com/developers/docs/reference#convert-snowflake-to-datetime

[jolly geyser]

yes yes, I saw that. I just wanted to try to do it via API, which now I know is not possible.

[tender bobcat]

The point is discord don't expect people to need it because it's literally in the id itself, which you would have or already have

[jolly geyser]

yep

[south shell]

creation could be taken using the private discord api but is it allowed? no

[south shell]

you can, but forbidden but i suppose for personal use you'll never get banned but don't try

i dont even know if i'm allowed to tell you the api request

[jolly geyser]

oh

How does it even work by the way?

[south shell]

you mimic

[jolly geyser]

you mimic what? discord api?

[south shell]

discord api request

[jolly geyser]

so you mean spoofing?

[south shell]

nope

just copying and if you do it with discord token i think its selfbot and with discord bot is user impersonation whioch is also bannable

[jolly geyser]

oh that

I already did that

[jolly geyser]

However, I am not trying to get creation date from my own account, but from any. since discord.id tool can do it I wanted to try to make own, right now I am reversing snowflake to get the date

[south shell]

yeah you can get the creation date of any account usingf discord api

just forbidden

[jolly geyser]

I know what you mean now

[south shell]

as i look rn, discord does not give out the thing in the api and must ysue the snowflakes aswell

[jolly geyser]

link?

[south shell]

https://discord.com/api/v9/users/id/profile
BANNABLE

[jolly geyser]

oh you mean that
I though you were looking through docs

[jolly geyser]

I know it's bannable, I got banned 2 times

[south shell]

not a flex

[jolly geyser]

I was messing with the api, did every possible thing I could and it ended up with ban

[south shell]

that why iot's bannable

[fast osprey]

What are you all on about. This is a simple one line bit of math on the id. I even already linked the code to it

[south shell]

timestamp = (ID>> 22) + 1420070400000

[jolly geyser]

we are talking about the api, when I tried to get the creation date via api, like this
I was excepting to get JSON response XD

[fast osprey]

You shouldn't even want to use the api. Why would you want to wait for a network call when you already have the code written for you and it's instant

[south shell]

it is json response

[jolly geyser]

yep, already did that

[south shell]

discord use this aswell to calculate it on profile

[jolly geyser]

yeah, and I got 401 unauthorized, it requires token

[south shell]

yes, that discord private api

need either bot token but could be considered

[jolly geyser]

ik

[south shell]

human impersonation

or account token and could be considered selfbot

[tender bobcat]

!rule 5 why we have discussion of self bot and why it even matter lmao

[unkempt canyon]

Rules

5. Do not provide or request help on projects that may violate terms of service, or that may be deemed inappropriate, malicious, or illegal.

[jolly geyser]

yesterday did it with bot token, I got username, user profile picture etc. all in json format.
But I don't like messing with api, I like this offline way with math

[south shell]

Yeah, that what i was saying

[south shell]

you can do it, still forbidden and could lead to discord bot ban or account ban

i think when discord ban a bot it ban the account

[south shell]

yeah, math always better

[jolly geyser]

I didn't want to talk about that anyway

[jolly geyser]

idk

oh wait, yes yes

I remember I was fixing a bug in my discord bot, it was some kind of entertainment bot that I made for some people. it started spamming because I called a function inside a loop. and got my acccount banned, that was my second ban

since then I stopped developing such bots

ok enough bots and apis, and stuff against tos
math wins!!

[fast osprey]

You really shouldn't be suggesting these things in the first place. They're explicitly going against TOS, and saying "you can do this but you probably shouldn't 😉 " isn't a good idea. If it would be against the rules, you can just say "there's not a way to do this within tos" and leave it at that

[flint cipher]

hello i dont understand whats wrong with the code

[fast osprey]

You should reset your token

[blissful crane]

startswith*

[flint cipher]

NONONON

NOOOOO

sSHIT I FORGOT TO BLUR IT

[blissful crane]

it's fine bruh, just reset it

[stark ingot]

There is no such thing as discord private api. And stop recommending people to use self bots. If it is not allowed there is no reason to even mention it in the first place

[flint cipher]

oh

[flint cipher]

ok now the token is the problem

i reset it and it tells me that its not good

i pasted it into the code too

[blissful crane]

did you save the file?

[flint cipher]

what file

[blissful crane]

the file you're coding in

[flint cipher]

money.py?

oh i didnt

ah yes working now

thx

[fast osprey]

Strongly consider putting your token in a separate config file so you don't have to remember to blur it out when sharing your logic

[south shell]

i mean the undocumented one

[south shell]

at no point i recommend anything btw

[fast osprey]

You're severely misusing "undocumented" here

It's not undocumented because they didn't feel like it, it's undocumented because they have specifically told you not to use it with automation

[south shell]

still undocumented

[fast osprey]

That is a misleading term to use

[south shell]

https://tenor.com/view/ihnmaims-allied-mastercomputer-i-have-no-mouth-and-i-must-scream-amfly-am-gif-7025036317992776628

[brave niche]

"internal API" sounds more-correct to me

[viscid hornet]

what the fuck did i just walk in on

[south shell]

idk either

[jolly geyser]

don't worry that much, I am aware of self bots, discord ToS and guidelines. I just wondered if there is a way to display something like the user profile in json format, if you can view a profile, you can maybe concatenate is as json.

e.g.

{
  "username": "username",
  "discriminator": 0,
  "avatar:": "0123456789abcdefdeadbeef"
}

ok this is it from me
I do not want to continue talking about something that could be against ToS and/or server rules.

[stark ingot]

I am pretty sure you can get it without breaking TOS, i dont know why that user even brought it up

[jolly geyser]

prob because pretty much everything on discord is either discord.com/guilds or discord.com/api/v{version_number}

guilds is mostly for servers, while api is for everything else

also if anyone here thinks that I shouldn't talk about those URLs
it's very well documented in discord documentation

[stark ingot]

Yeah, using the get user endpoint in the API with a bot token can get the information you want, the bot does not need to be on a server with you or anything

https://discord.com/developers/docs/resources/user#get-user

[jolly geyser]

Yes, I know, I did it yesterday.

[timber dragon]

some users seem to think that anything that isn't supported by bots == userbot/bad/undocumented

[slate swan]

For anyone who's looking for command ideas, i made a repo with currently 2,000 command ideas, some may be duplicates but it's worth having a look if you don't know what else to add int your bot;

https://github.com/motionzlol/discord-bot-command-ideas

if you find any duplicates lmk ❤️

[fast osprey]

Are you looking for feedback or just sharing? There are several commands here if implemented as described are either harmful or violate TOS

[tender bobcat]

tempmute vs mute

[slate swan]

i'm just sharing them, it's just a list i have

[fast osprey]

I'd encourage folks looking over this list to think critically about the implications of some of these and to review the tos they have agreed to

[tender bobcat]

8, 350 name conflict

[slate swan]

i’ll add a disclaimer at the top of the file or something

[fast osprey]

I'm not sure why you'd put a disclaimer for things that violate the tos instead of just removing them

[tender bobcat]

purge duplicate

music potentially duplicates

I am done with checking this because probably ai gen anyway
Not worth the time

[tender bobcat]

Because he probably doesn't know what there are

[slate swan]

eh im to lazy

[fast osprey]

Right, so you're fine with making recommendations that people could follow and get banned for and you don't care. Neat

[tender bobcat]

!rule ai sound appropriate for this rule

[unkempt canyon]

Rules

10. Do not copy and paste answers from ChatGPT or similar AI tools.

[slate swan]

it’s midnight for me im to tired to remove every single one that may break ToS

[fast osprey]

Then maybe take it down and don't share it with people until you've done your due diligence

[tender bobcat]

There is a simpler solution: remove the link from the channel

[fast osprey]

It's not a problem to make a mistake, it's a problem to be confronted with that mistake and dig your heels in when it can cause harm to others

[slate swan]

im not making people use them it’s just a list lol it’s their own choice to use them

[tender bobcat]

Well clearly you are suggesting people to use your command list, which contain ToS breaking command

So don't post it here if it contain ToS breaking command?

[south shell]

People do whatever they want with there bot even if forbidden tho

He never said "make them"

[tender bobcat]

In the process of searching a moderator...

[fast osprey]

Just because you aren't going to their house and holding them at gunpoint to make these commands doesnt mean you don't hold responsibility for misleading people into losing their accounts (or harming their users with security flaws). You may have been unaware of that previously, which is fine, but now you are not unaware

[tender bobcat]

I mean pretty sure it's a form of providing help, passively

!rule 5 therefore

[unkempt canyon]

Rules

5. Do not provide or request help on projects that may violate terms of service, or that may be deemed inappropriate, malicious, or illegal.

[south shell]

Don't know, don't care, not my repository after all

But well

[tender bobcat]

I didn't even reply to you lmao

[tender bobcat]

Time to block one more person ig

[south shell]

Modified, by response is the cool dog sticker under

[fast osprey]

It's not something to freak out about, it's their call if they don't want to engage. Just worth mentioning when you see folks discussing things like that

[tender bobcat]

It's mainly the sticker make me uncomfortable, not the conversation

[south shell]

Poor moxxie and millie

[south shell]

I saw you act like "AI bad", but isnt your profile picture AI (Cant see much but still)

[timber dragon]

Tip: rename cmds.md to readme.md so that the commands are immediately visible instead of having to click into it

Unless you're planning to add a fancy README to it

[slate swan]

I think github limits the amount of stuff you can have on the readme

nvm they dont

[slate swan]

I'm working on a second file right now that are all compliant with ToS.

[timber dragon]

Oh nice

[south shell]

would be cool

because of my bored ass i'll make all of them in a working bot

is your repo updated already?

you should maybe add "explanation" for each command

[last cradle]

where to find the badges for public flags/available badges

[fast osprey]

It's all documented in the relevant section in discord's docs

The wrapper library you're using should have it as well

[stark ingot]

Do you mean the actual images? Or just what flags correspond to what badges?

[last cradle]

second one

[stark ingot]

https://discord.com/developers/docs/resources/user#user-object-user-flags
Your library probably has an enum for it as well

[last cradle]

like i cant find on discordpy

[stark ingot]

Sorry, i dont use discord.py

[timber dragon]

• https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api.html#discord.User.public_flags
• https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api.html#discord.PublicUserFlags
• https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api.html#discord.UserFlags

[last cradle]

tyyyy

[azure yew]

@app_commands.command(name="ping", description="Ping the bot's shard.")
@app_commands.user_install()
@app_commands.guild_install()```

```AttributeError: module 'discord.app_commands' has no attribute 'user_install'```

istg i have tried everything but i cant get this to work 😭

[brave niche]

You're not saving the 'command' return value anywhere, I would have expected that to be what has 'user_install()' on it? Haven't used this library, sorry

[azure yew]

huh

its discord.py

[fast osprey]

Can you show the output of pip freeze on your environment

[azure yew]

aiohttp==3.11.14
aiosignal==1.3.2
altgraph==0.17.4
annotated-types==0.7.0
anyio==4.9.0
asyncio==3.4.3
attrs==25.3.0
audioop-lts==0.2.1
beautifulsoup4==4.13.3
blinker==1.9.0
cachetools==5.5.2
certifi==2025.1.31
cffi==1.17.1
charset-normalizer==3.4.1
click==8.1.8
colorama==0.4.6
comtypes==1.4.10
DateTime==5.5
discord==2.3.2
discord.py==2.3.2
distro==1.9.0
dotenv==0.9.9
duckduckgo_search==7.5.5
exceptiongroup==1.2.2
ffmpeg==1.4
Flask==3.1.0
frozenlist==1.5.0
google-api-core==2.24.2
google-auth==2.38.0
google-cloud-vision==3.10.1
google-genai==1.8.0
googleapis-common-protos==1.69.2
groq==0.20.0
grpcio==1.71.0
grpcio-status==1.71.0
gTTS==2.5.4
h11==0.14.0
httpcore==1.0.7
httpx==0.28.1
httpx-ws==0.7.2
idna==3.10
itsdangerous==2.2.0
Jinja2==3.1.6
jiter==0.9.0
langdetect==1.0.9
lmstudio==1.2.0
logging==0.4.9.6
lxml==5.3.1
lyricsgenius==3.3.1
MarkupSafe==3.0.2
msgspec==0.19.0
multidict==6.2.0
mysql==0.0.3
mysql-connector-python==9.2.0
mysqlclient==2.2.7
openai==1.68.2
packaging==24.2
pefile==2023.2.7
pillow==11.1.0
primp==0.14.0
propcache==0.3.0
proto-plus==1.26.1
protobuf==5.29.4
psutil==7.0.0
py-dotenv==0.1
pyasn1==0.6.1
pyasn1_modules==0.4.1
pycparser==2.22
pydantic==2.10.6
pydantic_core==2.27.2
pygame==2.6.1
pyinstaller==6.12.0
pyinstaller-hooks-contrib==2025.2
PyNaCl==1.5.0
pynput==1.8.1
pypiwin32==223
python-dotenv==1.0.0
pyttsx3==2.98
pytz==2025.1
pywin32==310
pywin32-ctypes==0.2.3
PyYAML==6.0.2
requests==2.32.3
rsa==4.9
setuptools==77.0.3
six==1.17.0
sniffio==1.3.1
soupsieve==2.6
tk==0.1.0
tqdm==4.67.1
typing_extensions==4.12.2
urllib3==2.3.0
websockets==15.0.1
Werkzeug==3.1.3
wsproto==1.2.0
yarl==1.18.3
youtube-dl==2021.12.17
yt-dlp==2025.3.26
zope.interface==7.2```

oh for fucks sake

my discord.py was outdated

i see now great

[azure yew]

guys

in discord.py i have input as "@distant pawn" how do i replace this with the pinged user's username?

[fast osprey]

What do you mean by "input"?

[azure yew]

on message it takes the message content

for example i ping myself the input is: @azure yew

i want to use a input.replace() to replace this with the displayname

but have it use regex or smth so it works with everyone

[blissful crane]

use re.sub

[azure yew]

how do that?

[blissful crane]

!d re.sub

[unkempt canyon]

re.sub

re.sub(pattern, repl, string, count=0, flags=0)```
Return the string obtained by replacing the leftmost non-overlapping occurrences of *pattern* in *string* by the replacement *repl*. If the pattern isn’t found, *string* is returned unchanged. *repl* can be a string or a function; if it is a string, any backslash escapes in it are processed. That is, `n` is converted to a single newline character, `r` is converted to a carriage return, and so forth. Unknown escapes of ASCII letters are reserved for future use and treated as errors. Other unknown escapes such as `&` are left alone. Backreferences, such as `6`, are replaced with the substring matched by group 6 in the pattern. For example:

[fast osprey]

You shouldn't need to regex, you can use the mentions property on the message

though I really suggest you make a slash command instead

[azure yew]

huh??

how is that relevant

its an on_message to AI API

and it just sees the @orchid dock string

[fast osprey]

What AI?

[azure yew]

gemini 2.0 flash

from google

[fast osprey]

It is against tos to train ai on message content

[azure yew]

its not training tho lol

its not storing anything

[fast osprey]

And how are you guaranteeing that

[azure yew]

by seeing what google says about it

they claim it doesnt train

atleast the version im using

[fast osprey]

Paid version? Are users consenting to you sending their data to a third party?

[azure yew]

its an api??

legit every bot does this? what are you saying??

[fast osprey]

My bot doesn't do this

[azure yew]

so you are saying your bot uses no api's at all? that seems hard to believe

[fast osprey]

My bot doesn't send user data to third parties

[azure yew]

cool so explain to me how all those other AI bots arent getting banned?

[fast osprey]

Other people getting away with things doesn't mean you get to

or that it's acceptable to do

[azure yew]

opinions be opinions ig

[fast osprey]

It's not an opinion

[azure yew]

its not training on user data discord doesnt have a problem with it

[fast osprey]

this is a rule of this server

discord does have a problem if you are sending user data to third parties without recording their explicit consent

[azure yew]

their consent is adding the bot to the server and enabling the ai function

[fast osprey]

That isn't consent

server owners can't consent on behalf of individual users

[azure yew]

and enabling the ai function

this is a great first impression of the discord, i joined to ask a question because i needed help with someone and someone goes bitching about "wahhh you cant do this " and when i say its not doing what you say you contine, im outta here have fun!

[fast osprey]

👋

[jaunty cape]

Bro wtf is this conversation

[stark pulsar]

my global error handler: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/FZYA
my error from my bot.log file: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/B4EQ
my embed: https://paste.pythondiscord.com/EDGQ

why is the bot not gracefully handling cooldown errors? i want the cooldown embed to display as an ephermal, but it doesnt seem to work. i tried to integrate my cooldown handling into the /chat command as well, but nothing works lmao

[jaunty cape]

Yo do you know which channel I can get aiohttp support

[fast osprey]

if it's just general aiohttp calls, probably just a post in the help forum

The general examples in the aiohttp docs are good

[jaunty cape]

Mhm

Ok thanks man

[fast osprey]

I'd recommend doing some logging. You're doing some if statements and it's unclear how they're behaving just reading your code

[tender bobcat]

I mean, you shouldn't just assume they don't pay?

[fast osprey]

I didn't say they did. I even asked if they had the paid service or not

[rocky stag]

guys how can i hot my discord bot 24/7 for free ?

[tender bobcat]

!hosting

[unkempt canyon]

Discord Bot Hosting

Using free hosting options like repl.it for continuous 24/7 bot hosting is strongly discouraged.
Instead, opt for a virtual private server (VPS) or use your own spare hardware if you'd rather not pay for hosting.

See our Discord Bot Hosting Guide on our website that compares many hosting providers, both free and paid.

You may also use #965291480992321536 to discuss different discord bot hosting options.

[timber dragon]

do you think your pc/phone was free?
or the electricity that it uses

[tender bobcat]

Basically you cannot

[tender bobcat]

Well, electricity isn't free... So

[timber dragon]

lol

[rocky stag]

i was just asking

[tender bobcat]

Hmm, can the bot not read message snapshot source

[tender bobcat]

The answer is no because no one wants to pay for these for free and people just turn those machines into crypto miners if they were to ever exist

[grave sandal]

never a dull moment in this channel

[timber dragon]

I wonder if you can host something on a samsung smart fridge

[glad cradle]

I'm pretty sure you can lmfao

[finite salmon]

i bet someone's already ported doom on a samsung smart fridge so hosting something on it shouldnt be impossible

[wise mica]

lmao right

[pulsar scarab]

hey all im actually not sure if i can post / ask here, but uhm Im looking for a probot ish bot for my server , mainly that has a auto response option. Where u can put a command such as : " omw " , that wil trigger random chosen GIFs. Probot is down sadly, and after looking on the net its said that Python has a similar feature? So im here wondering how that works and if thats the case? My apologies in advance, if this isnt the right place for asking

[brave niche]

Here's what a lot of people are using. If you're brand new to it all there will be a fair amount of reading required, but people are generally succeeding it seems: https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/

[pulsar scarab]

yes thanks im trying

[fast osprey]

This channel is specifically for development of bots and presupposes you have the necessary skills. If you're looking for existing bots, there are better places.

You would have to implement this yourself, there's nothing out of the box in these libraries which does this

[pulsar scarab]

Yes my intention was to find a similar BOT to be honest, Where I would just add the link of different GIFS that would automatically trigger in the server when a member in that server would write a specific work (that would be the command). I believe this discord server is not the right place for it 😇

[fast osprey]

Best of luck on your search then

[brave niche]

Check out AxisBot or Carlbot maybe? Just from a quick google

[spice carbon]

how do yall typically structure your discord bots code

[sick birch]

this is how I do mine: https://github.com/Robin5605/discord-bot-template, there are a lot of variations though
@unkempt canyon is far more complex, here's how we do it for that: https://github.com/python-discord/bot

this reminds me that i should migrate to uv for my template

[stark ingot]

Could you be a bit more specific?
I generally have a main.py and then a cogs folder with my commands, and other folders with my utility functions. I probably should put all of that stuff in a "bot" folder

Some people like to put their views and components in separate files but I personally like to keep them near where they are used

[fast osprey]

Yeah project structure is an incredibly opinionated and subjective topic. As long as you aren't introducing circular dependencies and you can quickly search for the thing you want, it doesn't really matter. This is something I prefer to evolve organically if (and only if) I ever run into tangible issues rather than trying to preemptively optimize

[spice carbon]

thing is: i got involved in a youtubers community and the server is relatively big, they got ~2.5k members and i got tasked with the task to create a bot for them. i am a hobbyist and never maintained a big codebase which this projects aims to be, so i am kinda lost here... which stack should i use, how do i keep myself organized and keep it manitanable by others aswell? ive created plenty of bots before but idk maybe its just the pressure thats making me overthink?

been programming for a whole lotta of time aswell, 3-4 years iirc

[fast osprey]

A well organized code base that doesn't do anything is worthless compared to a messy code base that actually creates value

if you spend too much time preemptively optimizing, you push your feedback loop further back

[wanton current]

there's nothing bad about organizing your codebsae

[spice carbon]

thats true

[fast osprey]

Didn't say it was bad, just that people waste a lot of time agonizing about how long their file is or how many vowels are in their class name while their users get bored and leave

[wanton current]

true

i'd just make some simple folders to sort correlated files like cogs, utils, etc.

[fast osprey]

Moving things around is easy

Losing opportunity cost because you weren't building the right thing, or worse yet losing your user base, is what's expensive. I prefer to keep things as simple as possible and rearchitect when there's an actual need. Refactoring isn't fun, it feels frustrating, but the alternative is worse imo

You make a one file bot, it looks like crap, but then you find out people actually didn't want the functionality in the first place. No harm done

[spice carbon]

thats wise lol

thanks

[last cradle]

is there anyway to determine if a user has nitro other than if there pfp is animated, if they have a banner or status contains a animated or custom emote?

also can u determine if they have boosted a server

[merry cliff]

not really the best way probably is to catch the automatic message that gets sent when the server is boosted

oh this is new

you could try this property

https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api.html?highlight=member#discord.Member.premium_since

[fast osprey]

Discord doesn't tell you if they have nitro. This is by design.

Any approaches are merely guesses and will give you either false positives or false negatives

[young dagger]

You can only tell if they are boosting a server

[brave niche]

You can buy a boost without having Nitro too though right?

[young dagger]

Mhm

[last cradle]

mmm

[jolly geyser]

hello again

I have been here a couple days ago when I had some questions about discord user creation date, which can be extracted from ID.
I did it by doing (id >> 22) + discord epoch. I could even get the creation date from my discord token, tokens are made of three parts, base64 encoded id, base64url encoded timestamp, and the last part is just HMAC. then I wondered is it possible to reverse that second part of the token.
I tried by doing it in reverse, timestamp - epoch -> hex and then base64url encode
and didn't get exatcly the same, let's say my 2nd part of token is AbC-L and then if I reverse the process to encode it myself I would get AbC-A, why is that?
If I try to extract timestamp and other things from ID, I don't get the same as what I would get when I decode the token part. something's missing.

Does anyone here know better? I tried even with bot token,it's the same.

anyway, based on this, looks like discord tokens are almost just public information, the first two parts are just id and timestamp, while the last one is the critical one actually.

Good night

oh also, I forgot to mention, I was also playing with the token in this picture, and based on the numbers that are already written, I could reverse the process easily and get the exact results.

[fast osprey]

Why are you trying to manipulate tokens in the first place

[midnight oracle]

spicy

[sick birch]

i think they're just trying to learn the format and how it works

[fierce shoal]

hey if any discord developers are trying to work on a discord boost related project please message me

[full ether]

you should further elaborate on what

a discord boost related project
means

[fierce shoal]

a discord boost bot with features like : automated boosts with sellauth and other common discord provider seller websites, boost multiple servers, tls spoofing, threading, a token checker, and much more

[hearty basalt]

defo not against ToS lmao

[fast osprey]

token checker

Want to elaborate where you're getting tokens from that you need to "check"?

[fierce shoal]

Amount of days / boosts left on the tokens aswell if it’s verified how many servers it’s in it’s age and what type of verification it has

[tender bobcat]

!rule 5

[unkempt canyon]

Rules

5. Do not provide or request help on projects that may violate terms of service, or that may be deemed inappropriate, malicious, or illegal.

[tender bobcat]

As far as I am aware, _ and - is not valid base64
What did I miss?

[fast osprey]

That's not what I asked. I asked where you're getting these tokens from that you need to check them.

[velvet solstice]

I need help making a discord bot its really late for me so if anyone wants to help me out please dm me or put me in a ticket

[woeful hill]

Go fiverr if you want someone to code for you

In this server we help with your code

[jolly geyser]

It looks interesting, and the way it works is interesting as well. Imagine it as lego bricks, you take one brick, and add details with other bricks, and you get a whole structure. And the second part of tokens puzzled me so I wanted to try to reverse it. I am just tinkering with that discord weirdness (offline of course, I don't want to do something against ToS)

[fast osprey]

If it's for curiosity go nuts, but you won't ever be making discord tokens yourself. It's helpful to describe your end goal with open ended questions like these (whether it's achieving a purpose or just understanding how something works for the fun of it) so the answers can be more tailored

[grave sandal]

I am getting the impression that for some reason these people have access to the tokens to various accounts which have been made that have boosts or nitro that they can use to boost servers with. Probably somehow from a third party for cheaper and that they want to know if the account they were given by token has nitro or any boosts to use.

[fast osprey]

Two separate threads, but yes I was trying to get them to admit that

Bro just rattled off a list of tos violations and then left 😂

[charred estuary]

Excuse me sir, I want to ask something. I'm currently using an RDP with Windows Server 2019, but when I try to run a Nextcord script, it gives an SSL error. What should I do about it, sir?

That's the error I'm getting, sir.

[brave niche]

Server has some fairly strict security defaults, any chance that's being blocked by the firewall settings?

[charred estuary]

How do I check if it's being blocked by the firewall, sir?

[brave niche]

It SHOULD be in the Event Viewer, under uhh...

"Applications and Services Logs" > "Microsoft" > "Windows" > "Windows Firewall with Advanced Security" > "Firewall", I guess?

You might have to right-click on that and enable logging first, I can't remember if it's on by default

auditpol /set /subcategory:"Filtering Platform Packet Drop" /success:enable /failure:enable is apparently what you'd want to do to enable all the logging. I've always done it with the UI so I'm glad to learn that command.

e.g. https://superuser.com/a/1141671

[charred estuary]

Sorry sir, I couldn't find that.

[brave niche]

That's all inside the 'Event Viewer' app, which you'd want to launch first

[charred estuary]

okey sir

[charred estuary]

Apologies sir, could you please clarify what you meant? I'm not quite sure I understand. I have already located the section 'Applications and Services Logs' > 'Microsoft' > 'Windows' > 'Windows Firewall with Advanced Security' > 'Firewall'.

[brave niche]

You can right-click on "Firewall" and there should be some options. One of them is to enable the logging for that category. Just double-check that it's already enabled.

You might need to run those two auditpol commands from a Command Prompt from that superuser.com link I dropped, I'd have to try it myself to be sure.

[fast osprey]

At this point it's not remotely python related

[charred estuary]

Sorry sir, could you please explain what you mean by 'enabling logging for that category'? I’m afraid I don’t quite understand. And also, regarding the 'two auditpol commands' — could you let me know what those commands are?

[brave niche]

Sure, open an administrator command prompt (one way is the WindowsKey-X, like right-clicking on the Start Menu)

Then run these two commands one after the other:
auditpol /set /subcategory:"Filtering Platform Packet Drop" /success:enable /failure:enable
and then
auditpol /set /subcategory:"Filtering Platform Connection" /success:enable /failure:enable

[charred estuary]

But this is about a Discord bot, and my bot is built with Python. I really do need help.

[brave niche]

When you're done later, you can reverse that by running these two:
auditpol /set /subcategory:"Filtering Platform Packet Drop" /success:disable /failure:disable
and
auditpol /set /subcategory:"Filtering Platform Connection" /success:disable /failure:disable

[fast osprey]

You could use that argument to do anything

"I have a discord bot that trades stocks, so in this channel help me with how stocks work"

I'd suggest getting help from windows/networking resources if it's a windows/networking issue

[charred estuary]

Sorry sir, I don’t mean anything by it — I just really don’t know. This bot was developed using the Python programming language, and I’ve encountered a similar error before that was solved through Python. So if this issue ends up being something that needs to be solved through networking concepts instead of Python, I sincerely apologize. I genuinely need help.

[fast osprey]

You're good, I'm not scolding you just suggesting that you go to places meant to help with the thing you're having the actual problem with

[charred estuary]

Could you please let me know if there's a server or channel where I can get some help? I'm really having a hard time right now.

[jolly geyser]

Base64url change + and / into - and _, it also removes the == padding. So, those characters are not valid base64 but are valid base64url

[tender bobcat]

Ah

[charred estuary]

And I'm sorry sir, but I read the pinned message — as long as it's still related to Discord bots, it's allowed, isn't it? What I'm experiencing is still related to a Discord bot, it's just that the way to solve it is a bit different.

[fast osprey]

I'm not a mod, I'm not saying you can't do anything

just that this isn't the place for windows server expertise

[charred estuary]

Alright sir, thank you very much for your willingness to help. Perhaps we could move to the #networks channel, as this might also be related to networking.

[stark pulsar]

        embed.add_field(
            name=f"{EMOJIS['CHAT']} **__Match Details__**",
            value=(
                f"Channel: {voice_channel.jump_url})\n"
                f"Partner: {user2.mention if user1.id != user2.id else user1.mention}\n"
                f"Started at {discord.utils.format_dt(datetime.now(), style='f')}"
            ),
            inline=False
        )

        embed.add_field(name="", value="\u200b", inline=False)
        
        embed.add_field(
            name=f"{EMOJIS['DISCONNECT']} **__Session End__**",
            value=(
                "> *The session will continue until someone leaves the channel.*\n"
                "> *When that happens, the remaining person will be moved back to the queue.*"
            ),
            inline=False
        )
        
        return embed```

embed.add_field(name="", value="\u200b", inline=False) is still causing too big of a gap, any suggestions? i can't use newlines since discord strips them which is annoying

[brave niche]

Does "\u2009" work interestingly differently?

[stark ingot]

I suggest putting everything in the description, that way you can put newlines between the text, which won't be stripped

[vale anvil]

does anyone know what the url format for the desktop app is (discord://) ? trying to add a link in an embed

[viscid hornet]

there's a URL format for desktop discord?

[brave niche]

https://gist.github.com/ghostrider-05/8f1a0bfc27c7c4509b4ea4e8ce718af0

[viscid hornet]

oh it opens the link with disord

thats kinda cool

[vale anvil]

oh thank you 🙂

[brave niche]

My last message got deleted, just in case that was for policy reasons I won't re-send it. Hmm.

(Pretty sure what I said was fine but you never know)

[timber dragon]

discord://~/users/150665783268212746

[glad cradle]

huuh

[timber dragon]

<protocol> instead of the full url works too in url buttons and text. Not sure about embeds.

[smoky sinew]

hi snipy

[glad cradle]

Hiii

[timber dragon]

Hi mudkip

[woeful hill]

Is it really work with buttons because you (used to be able to, not sure if you still can) log out with just discord protocol

[tender bobcat]

Just try it :)

[wheat summit]

Hello! Does anyone know the command to edit a thread's name?

[blissful crane]

https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api.html#discord.Thread.edit
the name kwarg

[wise mica]

in discord.py flags, is there a way to check if a flag is used without an argument?

shiny: bool = commands.flag(default=False, aliases=["sh"])

i have this bool that I want to be False (or None, doesnt really matter) as default, but if added to a command like --shiny without any arguments for it to then be True, without the user specifying it to be True

i also cant just check the message content for it since its also being added into the arguments of other flags when ran without an argument

[fast osprey]

There's probably a way to do this, but personally if your commands are getting complex enough to warrant flags I'd strongly recommend just migrating to slash commands. It's unambiguous to the user and vastly easier for them to fill out

[wise mica]

i have slash commands as an option too, but users generally do not like slash commands so text is almost mandatory

[fast osprey]

I see this a lot, people rolling over to stubborn users. Slash commands are the supported way to do this, they're better in pretty much every way and people only resist because they hate change. Up to you if you want to go out of your way writing messier code to end up with a worse experience

If you wanted to go ahead with this, you might need to look through what's available in the context. Though as a user, I'd find this frustrating and unintuitive if there were two different defaults

[young dagger]

Use whatever makes you happy, I see nothing wrong with it

[limpid nexus]

Hey folks, I'll start by saying this server is very useful: it's helped me a ton already!

Now, I have a huge issue: I've successfully embedded deepseek in my Discord bot, but holy moly if it's slow. 2 mins only for the reply to be "sorry I can't help".
How can I overcome this issue? I'm running it on my machine, and it clearly isn't the way to go. Where could I host the AI to get fast (not saying blazingly fast, but not more than 5 seconds, lol) responses? And how different would the implementation be from running it locally? I know nothing about this topic.

[fast osprey]

How are you "embedding" it?

[limpid nexus]

I might've used the wrong term? What I mean is that I'm using deepseek in my Discord bot.

Via Ollama.

[fast osprey]

But how?

[limpid nexus]

Do you want the API?
I am importing from the ollama library some packages (chat, ChatResponse, AsyncClient), defining an async function to ask the AI what the user asks (when an !ask command event is being fired) and send it back to the user in the channel.

[fast osprey]

You may wish to review the developer tos and policy

[limpid nexus]

What's up with it?

[fast osprey]

It is against policy to train models based on user message content (which it seems deepseek does), and it is against tos to send any user data to a third party without specifically getting the user's consent and publishing that in your privacy policy

[limpid nexus]

Lol.

Who even talked about training deepseek?

[fast osprey]

You talked about sending user data to deepseek. And a very cursory googling says that deepseek trains based on input

[limpid nexus]

I talked about sending the user message to deepseek.

[fast osprey]

That's exactly what I just said

[limpid nexus]

It's ran on my machine in any case.

What's the matter with it?

In the worst case it'd be collecting my data.

Isn't it the case?

[fast osprey]

If you can guarantee that no data goes to a third party and the model isn't being trained, you're fine

[limpid nexus]

And I believe that users are aware of what's happening, when they invoke a command to explicitly ask deepseek.

[fast osprey]

Being aware isn't consent

They also cannot consent to the training of models

[limpid nexus]

I don't think deepseek can get any data from users besides their messages, since it's all ran locally on my computer.

So I guess I'm safe.

[fast osprey]

Their messages are protected data

[limpid nexus]

Lol.

[fast osprey]

Both of these need to be true

[limpid nexus]

Is this fr or you're trolling atp I don't know.

[fast osprey]

You can read the policy if you want to, which you should have already

[limpid nexus]

I don't think there's any violation going on.

[stark ingot]

Just add "Submitting this command will send your data to a 3rd party" to the description of the command or something

[limpid nexus]

There already is smth like that.

[fast osprey]

And again, it doesn't matter if there is consent or not, models cannot be trained based on user inputs period

[limpid nexus]

In the command description.

[stark ingot]

And no one ever said that it was!

[limpid nexus]

Anyways, back to my question, lol.

[limpid nexus]

This was it.

[fast osprey]

Either way, this isn't the channel for how to make your ai faster

Doesn't seem to be any issue with the discord wrapper, so long as tos are being met

[fast osprey]

Including me, it was left ambiguous and if you actually read the conversation they never confirmed what the settings on their model were

[limpid nexus]

I'm asking just if my AI would be connected to my Discord bot in a similar way as it's done locally.

Would I have to send https requests to the server to send and retrieve the data? I guess that's the only difference.

[fast osprey]

It's up to you if you want to farm that out to a separate process on different hardware

Could probably get better results, the actual process connecting to discord won't need many resources at all

You would have to factor in network latency at that point if it would offset any improvements

(Or just also host your discord process on that same faster hardware)

[limpid nexus]

Oh yeah.

Well thanks for the heads up.

Also for the tos thing.

[fast osprey]

Not being a dick here, data privacy is serious stuff so if you're going to be developing an app people use I highly suggest you read both the dev tos and dev policy very closely

[limpid nexus]

I understand it.

[jaunty cape]

Bro just get a stronger GPU

[limpid nexus]

😦

I definitely should.

[sick birch]

will probably have to use deepseek's API. not sure if it's free or paid, though

and yeah just make sure to do your due dilligence when it comes to data safety

https://api-docs.deepseek.com/quick_start/pricing

[limpid nexus]

God bless.

[sick birch]

these AI companies usually have dedicated hardware and are running the max parameter count so it will usually always be faster and better than what you do locally

[limpid nexus]

Yeah. Thanks for the link and the tip. 👍

[fast osprey]

4.3 In order to fulfill the requirements stipulated by laws and regulations or provide the Services specified in these Terms, and under the premise of secure encryption technology processing, strict de-identification rendering, and irreversibility to identify specific individuals, we may, to a minimal extent, use Inputs and Outputs to provide, maintain, operate, develop or improve the Services or the underlying technologies supporting the Services. If you refuse to allow us to process the data in the manner described above, you may provide feedback to us through the methods outlined in Section 10.

[limpid nexus]

Yeah I've chosen I'll stick with Claude tbf.

I like it more.

[fast osprey]

Our use of Materials. We may use Materials to provide, maintain, and improve the Services and to develop other products and services. We will not train our models on any Materials that are not publicly available, except in two circumstances:

If you provide Feedback to us (through the Services or otherwise) regarding any Materials, we may use that Feedback in accordance with Section 5 (Feedback).
If your Materials are flagged for trust and safety review, we may use or analyze those Materials to improve our ability to detect and enforce Acceptable Use Policy violations, including training models for use by our trust and safety team, consistent with Anthropic’s safety mission.

[tight shard]

I’m looking for people to give me feedback back on my new AI bot is this the right channel?

It’s a bot that analyzes bitcoin price trends and gives a detailed response about them and ends with a recommendation to buy/sell/hold

[fast osprey]

Aside from the horrible ethics of an AI giving financial advice on a volatile asset?

Depends if you're looking for critique on the code itself or the functionality

[sick birch]

not really, no

[tight shard]

Kinda both. Mainly just need users to check out what I have so far so they can tell me what they like/don’t like.

[tight shard]

Where would that channel be? I need devs opinions which is why I’m here

[sick birch]

we have a code review tag in #1035199133436354600 but its only really for reviewing the actual code itself rather than giving feedback on the ai bot

you might have better luck trying in a crypto discord server

[tight shard]

I disagree, maybe you don’t trust it but being that I developed it I understand how it works and the risk factor is actually going to be pretty low once enough data is logged. As of now it mainly says “hold” but I expect to see different predictions within the next month or so

[tight shard]

Got ban in some of those because they don’t line the buzz words like “AI” and “data analysis”

[tight shard]

Would rather not open source it since I eventually want to make some money with a subscription tier

But thank you for the help : )

[fast osprey]

Then how are you expecting feedback if you're not willing to share code?

[frail dust]

people around here won't pay for that also

code review is a w

[tender bobcat]

=basically advertising/j

[tight shard]

Not here to get customers. Here for beta testers

[tight shard]

Feed back on the finished product. Apple wouldn’t send you the schematics of an iPhone for feed back, they would send you the iPhone (the product)

[tender bobcat]

Just in mind that people here care about code, not cryptocurrency

So if you want feedback on the "product", not code, you are probably in the wrong place

[shadow vigil]

[tight shard]

It’s more that it’s easier to talk to developers since they know the language. They can say implement this library or this function

Not so much the content of the output more the structure

[fast osprey]

We aren't users of this thing you're making, and you refuse to share code. This isn't going anywhere

[wise mica]

Telling anyone to invest into crypto sounds like a crazy idea and a real clean way to end up being sued. Especially since you're wanting to sell this financial advice.

There's also a myriad of other issues you have, like the AI forgetting or not fully taking into account a users current financial situation, the real life situation of a crypto (like if you're only reading, but not what the real life players like the various leaders of countries)

Or since we haven't seen your outputs the idea that you're not taking a users financials into account and having them invest into something more secure or take proper margins

[timber dragon]

A subscription for a Discord bot that gives AI-powered advice on which crypto to invest into is wild.

[wise mica]

And also finally, the majority of your code should be about the AI and your discord bot should really just be an output of that code, which is relatively easy

And you're going to be competing with the smartest people in the world when trying to create any sort of product that's reading financial graphs. If a model could simply tell you what are good investments, then everyone would be following them

But also a piece of advice I would give you that's not "please don't do this" is to have the bot run in DMs and only run in DMs and delete any user message that isn't the DMs (or honestly delete them from DMs too)

You don't want users putting their financial info just in random servers

[wise mica]

That's all well and good but my issue was that I couldn't get it working so I couldn't use the "whatever"

[wise mica]

I asked in the dpy discord + some more research, it's just actually not possible without editing the library which 🙃

[timber dragon]

I mean

Subclassing and extending the functionality isn't really editing the library

[wise mica]

I haven't done it yet, but the library throws an error when I try so I assumed I have to get rid of that. What would a better descriptor be?

[tender bobcat]

Only if you give us the code we could help that
Otherwise we don't know what you have used and cannot give any meaningful feedback about this

[timber dragon]

What's was the error?

[wise mica]

That the flag required an argument. This was intentional I think to mimic slash commands more

[timber dragon]

with the custom subclass that allowed boolean flags?

[wise mica]

No. Boolean flags worked fine with the library, but they absolutely require you to set them to true in the command

When I wanted them to be true when passed without an argument

But passing them without an argument gives you an intentional error

[timber dragon]

That's what the subclass was for..

The library indeed doesn't have such option

#1359629358834384936 message

That class allows for stuff like --shiny

[wise mica]

Yes that's my thread where I asked there for help

[timber dragon]

Yes and it seems like you ignored the solution

[wise mica]

i thanked them and said that I would try it today

[tight shard]

I think what all do you are forgetting is that this is a new AI model that is designed with the sole purpose of analyzing trading data

[wise mica]

Yea that's fs never been done before

[tight shard]

Haters gonna hate ig 🤷‍♂️

[wise mica]

I wrote you a paragraph on why what you were doing is whack and that's your response

[fast osprey]

as much as I'm sure I'd love to dunk on the combo AI+crypto bro, this really isn't the place IMO. You're not asking for help on how to specifically implement something in python relating to a discord wrapper

if you're just fishing for opinions on the product itself, that's better done elsewhere

[crude tundra]

@Deleted User @Deleted User

[graceful gorge]

Hii

[scenic pike]

Is possible to bypass this or remove bcs i set task.loop to edit an embed in specific channel on 30 seconds

[sick birch]

No

Though editing once in 30 seconds should be fine. maybe check that it is in fact running once per 30 seconds and not more

[scenic pike]

Kk thanks

But its gave same warning on 30 sec

I think if i remove the edit message warning will be removed ? @sick birch

[stark ingot]

The ideal solution is to not edit a message every 30 seconds. Why do you need to do this?

[fast osprey]

if you're trying to post updates on a timer, sending it to a webhook is a lot more forgiving than repeatedly editing a single message

[warm stratus]

i keep getting this error SyntaxError: 'await' outside function im not good at scripting can sm1 help me fix it

[fast osprey]

You'll need to understand asyncio if you want to use it here

[warm stratus]

SyntaxError: 'await' outside function

what does this mean 🙏

[fast osprey]

it means you can't use await outside of a function...exactly what the error says

https://docs.python.org/3/library/asyncio.html

[warm stratus]

ok

[fast osprey]

awaits are only valid inside of async functions

[warm stratus]

yeah but

it is inside async function

[fast osprey]

that's not what your error says

[twilit grotto]

show your code @warm stratus

[warm stratus]

its literally inside async function what

[twilit grotto]

it is probably just an indentation issue then. shwo your code

[warm stratus]

ok

[fast osprey]

errors don't lie

[warm stratus]

wait i think i fixedit holon

[warm stratus]

dunno why u got an attitude fo

[fast osprey]

dunno why you're assuming I have an attitude

[warm stratus]

im not assuming u just do bro

[fast osprey]

whatever you say

[warm stratus]

om,,g this error is making me mad broeoa

[fast osprey]

The error should come with a traceback identifying the line that's an issue

[hearty basalt]

@warm stratus you from NY?

[slate swan]

Does forwarding a message have it's own event in discord.py? I didn't find anything like this in the docs

[fast osprey]

it just fires on_message no?

[slate swan]

Oh, okay

[viscid hornet]

wait how do you tell if a message is forwarded?

!d discord.Message - lets see

[unkempt canyon]

discord.Message

class discord.Message```
Represents a message from Discord...

[slate swan]

My bot is not behaving as expected with forwarded messages as opposed to normal messages, I guess it's worth trying to update dpy first

[slate swan]

I didn't spot anything for this, only a forward method

[viscid hornet]

ah it's in the flags

!d discord.Message.flags

[unkempt canyon]

discord.Message.flags

Extra features of the message.

New in version 1.3.

[viscid hornet]

!d discord.MessageFlags.forwarded

[unkempt canyon]

discord.MessageFlags.forwarded

Returns True if the message is a forwarded message.

New in version 2.5.

[slate swan]

thanks for the help

[warm stratus]

yea

[young dagger]

!d discord.MessageFlags.is_crossposted

[unkempt canyon]

discord.MessageFlags.is\_crossposted

Returns True if the message was crossposted from another channel.

[young dagger]

How does this even work?

What is considered crossposting?

[exotic hazel]

Usually it means the same message is posted in multiple channels (could be spam, for example), not sure how exactly this flag gets triggered though

[pliant minnow]

is_crossposted is for when you have a channel that follows another channel, an update channel on another server for example, and when they post in theirs it gets crossposted into your channel.

[young dagger]

That makes sense, thanks

[orchid hemlock]

let’s say in theory i’m doing something like mass adding emojis, how long would i have to sleep between emoji addition to make sure i don’t get the rl of eternity

[fast osprey]

Discord sends you the rate limits, and most libraries will respect these limits and slow down accordingly

you shouldn't need to do any limiting yourself

[tender bobcat]

For guild add emoji, I think it is 50/1h (or 30mins) probably per guild

No idea about application add emoji

[tender bobcat]

More issue is they don't always tell the exact limit
More need trial and error and see if it's RL or not
Library usually automatically respect global limit but since individual limit is not disclosed, it just use the 429 rate limit header thing to figure out how long to wait

[fast osprey]

Discord responds with the local limits. Modern libraries respect this. It's not a mystery

It just isn't a static limit that's true for everyone all the time, the API responds with the limits when you interact with it. The libraries read this response and throttle accordingly. You as the developer don't need to do that sleeping yourself

[sick birch]

does a tasks.Loop keep running the next iteration if an unhandled exception occurs? I have a loop error handler that logs out the error and does some extra stuff, but I want the loop to just run again the next time around, though I don't know if this is the default behaviour and I can't find more specific details about exception handling for tasks in https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ext/tasks/index.html

[loud socket]

It does not

[sick birch]

ah, unfortunate. so I'd just start the task from my exception handler then?

[loud socket]

Yeah that’s the easiest way to do it

[sick birch]

wouldn't it run immediately after? I can add an asyncio.sleep in the error handler before starting it again but it feels hacky

[loud socket]

It would, but as you said it would be hacky

[sick birch]

are there any more idiomatic solutions?

[loud socket]

There are a few let me pull up a resource real quick

This is not entirely accurate to your question but this is always good to read https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ext/tasks/index.html? and you could use a loop decorator

That’s what I would use atleast

[sick birch]

i've been referencing that, and i am using the loop decorators. I'm just looking for an idiomatic way to skip a run if there's an unhandled exception, but if there's none I'll just have to restart the task in the error handler

[graceful gorge]

@sick birchhii

[warm stratus]

im trying to use roblox api to fetch a users groups

but all of the apis i try just dont work

[scenic tendon]

Hi

I'm new here

[steel aspen]

This command instructs the bot to send a list of files from os.listdir
It for some reason doesn't like the letter L. how do i fix this?

[burnt quiver]

hai

[scenic tendon]

Please How are you doing

[burnt quiver]

good, you?

[steel aspen]

Amd its only if it at the end
"sma" is supposed to be "small"

[scenic tendon]

I'm fine.

[burnt quiver]

code?

[scenic tendon]

I want to know how to code the following:

I am a student who is eager to learn

[burnt quiver]

Check out the python docs

[scenic tendon]

Please send

[burnt quiver]

https://docs.python.org/3/

[steel aspen]

name_list = []
for file in file_list:
    if ".flf" in file:
     name_list.append(file.rstrip(".flf")
await message.channel.send(", ".join(name_list))```

[blissful crane]

the way .strip works is by removing any of the characters provided

"Hello".strip("Ho") will result in ell even tho there is no Ho at the start or the end

[steel aspen]

oh what i thought it was just from the eddge of the string

[blissful crane]

Yes that's what it does

But it checks if the character is in the string you provided and if it is, it removes jt

use str.replace or slice to remove the suffix

[burnt quiver]

^

noice

[dreamy geyser]

@bot.command()
async def babalarim(ctx):
em = discord.Embed(title = "Çağdaş", description =" ", color = #a11010)

em.add_field(name = "Babalarim", value = "@xDoly, @bigmac, @Emekli Padişah, @Omewii")

await ctx.send(embed = em) 

how to ping people here ?

doesnt ping here

[woeful hill]

use markdown or .mention if you have user objects

<@id>

[dreamy geyser]

so for example: em.add_field(name = "<@id>")

and it will ping the user?

[woeful hill]

it wont ping, it will just become a mention

also field name wont accept mention markdown

[dreamy geyser]

yeah wrong command sorry

em.add_field(name = "Babalarim", value = "<@id>")

[steel aspen]

Or use the user id
f"<@{userid}>"

[dreamy geyser]

em.add_field(name = "Babalarim", value = "f"<@{userid}>")

[woeful hill]

just the same as <@id>

[dreamy geyser]

like this?

[woeful hill]

one is you hardcode the ids to the field value, one is using f-string

both are still <@id>

[dreamy geyser]

alright

thanks

but it works inside the string too right?

[woeful hill]

they result the same

[dreamy geyser]

k thanks

[sick birch]

hmm?

[wise mica]

Worth noting that an embed won't ping people, it has to be sent outside of the embed

Inside an embed it'll just be a mention

[dreamy geyser]

yes yes i meant mention

[slate swan]

Loop.add_exception_type is what I used

[slate swan]

anyony

anyone send discord library doc

beginner - advanced

i need to start learn

[main idol]

wdym

[woeful hill]

https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/

[slate swan]

thanks

[graceful gorge]

I need help for making my discord bot

[burnt quiver]

with?

[graceful gorge]

I have code but some error is coming

[burnt quiver]

show us the error then

[graceful gorge]

Sorry but I don't have it right now

[graceful gorge]

Can I dm it later?

[digital owl]

I have made the bot recently and its working i think we can help you

[burnt quiver]

just send it here :)

?

[digital owl]

GOJO bot is name u can try it in my srvr

[graceful gorge]

Something is wrong Config file ig

[digital owl]

Okay DM me

[graceful gorge]

I am out of station right now soo I can't upload it

[graceful gorge]

Thanks

[fast osprey]

[burnt quiver]

me is confused too lmao😭

[fast osprey]

I'll never understand people who say they need help and then immediately that they can't share code.

[slate swan]

sometimes they can't share full code

cuz they don't want you to use yourself code or someone else

[fast osprey]

More so talking about the people that say they're away and can't share any details at all besides "I need help"

[dreamy geyser]

it says this in the terminal but its there

[slate swan]

i did not say, about any details they should share code erorr and error line

[slate swan]

what does this bot?

[dreamy geyser]

its a TTS bot

[fast osprey]

What's your current working directory? Also are you trying to use a json file as a database?

[dreamy geyser]

wdym

[fast osprey]

wdym wdym

Can't really elaborate if I don't know what you don't understand

[digital owl]

Try to use .env file rather than json

[dreamy geyser]

so should i change botdata.json to botdata.env?

[digital owl]

If u story ur token in json

[fast osprey]

It depends what this is being used for

[digital owl]

No just .env

[fast osprey]

How are you using this file

[dreamy geyser]

i am in bot.py right now

in VSS

[fast osprey]

The json file

[digital owl]

Okay keep it simple first tell me

[fast osprey]

What is is to being used for

[digital owl]

Json file is storing authtoken?

[dreamy geyser]

for the Bot Token, Server ID

yes

[digital owl]

Use .env for storing

All this

Just open vs code make a file name .env

[fast osprey]

If it's just static config it doesn't matter what file type they use

Env isn't any better and in some cases is worse

[digital owl]

I think in cases of bots env is better

[dreamy geyser]

and it says no customvoices.json

[fast osprey]

Anyways the issue is probably with your current working directory

[digital owl]

Cuz I have made my bot recently

[dreamy geyser]

but there is customvoices.json

[digital owl]

And its working perfectly with env

[dreamy geyser]

so how do we fix that

[fast osprey]

Do you know what a current working directory is to begin with?

[dreamy geyser]

no

[digital owl]

See ur folder structure

I think that's the problem

[fast osprey]

How are you running the code?

[digital owl]

Cuz ur calling files but the error is not found files

Maybe some folder structure problem or calling files logic problem

[dreamy geyser]

if i run normal it says this in the terminal but if i run debug it works but when i do the tts command it doesnt work

[fast osprey]

how are you running the code

Describe what you're doing to get this code to run, step by step

[dreamy geyser]

just this

[fast osprey]

Do you know what that does?

[dreamy geyser]

no?

it runs the script?

[fast osprey]

So when you run python, you do so in a directory on your machine. That is your current working directory, and everything in your script runs relative to that.

If you aren't picking it yourself, then this button is picking it for you and you have no clue what it's picking

[dreamy geyser]

how do we run it as the directory my folder is in right now then?

[fast osprey]

Either figure out what this button is doing and fix it to run python in the right directory, or just run your code yourself in a command line

[slate swan]

python bot.py (in terminal)

run

[dreamy geyser]

i did py bot.py because it doesnt recognize python

[fast osprey]

Just running it isn't sufficient. You need to do it in the right directory

[dreamy geyser]

wait i didnt understand that part like can you explain to me step by step what i need to do , to make it in the right directory

[digital owl]

@fast osprey it's not a run related error🤦

[dreamy geyser]

if i press the run python file button it says this in terminal

[fast osprey]

You don't understand what that button does

[dreamy geyser]

can you explain it

[fast osprey]

What do you think your current working directory is in that terminal?

[dreamy geyser]

ohh

C:\Users\Hasan

[fast osprey]

Yes. And your file isn't there

[dreamy geyser]

ohh so cd (File) directory

right?

[fast osprey]

You need to get your current working directory to be wherever you want your code to run from, cd'ing into it would work

[dreamy geyser]

alright done thanks

[fast osprey]

This basically just invokes your selected python environment on your current file, and itll use whatever working directory you already have in your terminal afaik

[slate swan]

without python async func knowledge, should i learn dc library?

cuz idk very well about async funcs

and discord is using async funcs

[fast osprey]

You will need to understand the fundamentals of asyncio to use these libraries effectively

[slate swan]

oh ok

it takes 2h?

[fast osprey]

Depends on the person

There are good articles and tutorials on the topic

[slate swan]

i am learning very easy

cuz i have good math knowledge

and i learnt very easy and understood python fundamentals

[fast osprey]

Async concepts aren't too terribly confusing in my experience, just have to understand the terminology and what's happening under the hood. A lot of people just slap awaits everywhere to make the errors go away without actually learning what these things do

[slate swan]

alr ty

[pallid meadow]

you can get pretty far by just slapping await on everything a good rule of thumb is if it's making a request to an external service. I.e the discord api or a database. You use async await. There's obviously a lot more that goes into it especially if you wanna have a scheduler and other things like that but you will defiantly be able to get away with just slapping async await on functions that make a call to an external service.

I can give you a quick explanation though, it basically allows your program to do other things while it's waiting for idk a timer to finish, a server to respond, pretty much an io bound tasks.

So here's a code example

[slate swan]

ty

[pallid meadow]

lol hold on

lemme get this example working

[slate swan]

is it hard to do program yourself which responds any message different things like ai sometimes

[pallid meadow]

no worries at all, if I say anything too complex just lmk I can re explain

[slate swan]

or take ai api and change things so you do not need to code yourself bot like ai

i am interesting about ai

how it works and machine learning

[pallid meadow]

that takes years of experience and schooling because a lot of it is just applied math

but here's the asyncio example

[slate swan]

i know like logarithms

i learnt it myself from yt

[pallid meadow]

!e

import asyncio
import time

async def say_hello():
    await asyncio.sleep(1)
    print("Hello")

async def say_world():
    await asyncio.sleep(1)
    print("World")

async def main():
    start = time.perf_counter()
    await asyncio.gather(say_hello(), say_world())
    stop = time.perf_counter()
    print(f"Total time: {stop - start:.2f} seconds")


asyncio.run(main())

[unkempt canyon]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | Hello
002 | World
003 | Total time: 1.00 seconds