discord-bots

[vapid parcel]

in most cases yes. Im not saying you truly need it to make hybrid cmds work, but in almost all cases you will be using a keyword only marker.

[tawny junco]

In my example here I don't even need to use it. because I don't need to pass more than 1 arguments. I just always use it just in case lol

[vapid parcel]

Yeah, but thats the pain of it, you are always using it. But in reality, app cmds or slash cmds do not need them. Which just makes life easier

[tawny junco]

Meh. It's just 1 single character. I don't see how it makes life hard 🤣

[vapid parcel]

and another thing is, using ctx with interaction for an example, its another painful thing, for views n stuff when you have to pass in ctx. I always hated that.

[vapid parcel]

Cuz I don't have to worry about if I put * and making sure the cmd works

[tawny junco]

💀

[vapid parcel]

also with hybrid, it makes argument arrangement more important because of the keyword only marker.

[tawny junco]

I actually remember why I use it

Because the dictionary jisho can query words in 2 ways. For example if you search for same then what happens is, it gives you sa-me the word for shark in Japanese lol. So you gotta search for "same" instead

So yeah if you wanna include quotation then * is the way to go

[vapid parcel]

making it a keyword only marker, which i have stated

but okay 😭

[tawny junco]

why are you adding "but okay" at the end

You do realize I'm not arguing right

[vapid parcel]

I never said we were arguing, I would never argue over something like this, I am just having a conversation, but you completely ignored the statement I made earlier, and then bring it back up at the end as if I didnt mention it earlier.

[tawny junco]

What did I ignore?

[vapid parcel]

[vapid parcel]

You brought up "so yeah if you wanna includ quotation then * is the way to go" meaning me saying its a keyword only marker was completely ignored.

[tawny junco]

That's a wild assumption

[vapid parcel]

Well you brought it up back at the end almost as if you just figured it out 😭

so assuming that is pretty valid imo

[tawny junco]

I was simply correcting myself for stating my example doesn't need it

[tawny junco]

Here I said this

[tawny junco]

Then correction

I was not ignoring you in anyway

I was more acknowledging your point

[vapid parcel]

Idk, just seems like you ignored that statement and then brought it backup

[tawny junco]

Hence why I say "so yeah"

[quick gust]

miscommunication guys it's okay move on

[timber dragon]

[quick gust]

@viscid hornet how's the fishing bot going

[tawny junco]

If I were using my statement as a counter-argument then it would make you win the argument

[wanton current]

[viscid hornet]

havent opened the folder in a looooong time

[vapid parcel]

i thought we werent arguing 😭

[quick gust]

as expected

[tawny junco]

an argument and arguing are 2 different concepts

[vapid parcel]

Bro dips all the projects he makes unless his friend asks for it. Smh

[vapid parcel]

Debates are a valid thing.

[tawny junco]

arguing has the nuance of heated debate. an argument is just one side of a debate

[quick gust]

[vapid parcel]

[timber dragon]

Bros are arguing about what an argument is 💀

[vapid parcel]

idk bro, he replied to my message that was sent like 3 days ago

it was the most random thing

[timber dragon]

Smh

[tawny junco]

Is anything wrong with that tho?

[quick gust]

[tawny junco]

If you scroll up for 10 seconds you can find his message from 3 days ago

this chat is slow

[tawny junco]

Less than 10

[vapid parcel]

alright, we get it 🙏

[tawny junco]

Who is we

Am I included

[vapid parcel]

all the voices in my head

[viscid hornet]

[vapid parcel]

thats whos WE. Trust

[viscid hornet]

not necessarily

[vapid parcel]

caps

did you ever FINISH the AI?

doubting hard rn

bro def never finished it

[viscid hornet]

what AI?

[vapid parcel]

for the uhhhhhhhhh

connect 4?

i think

[viscid hornet]

oh no i never got that working

[vapid parcel]

😭

[viscid hornet]

tried like 8 times and eventually just gave up

[vapid parcel]

bro gave up, sad

[viscid hornet]

cant say i didnt try

[viscid hornet]

yeah?? cuz its 8 times??

[vapid parcel]

bro couldve tried ONE MORE TIME

9th time is the try

[vapid parcel]

trust me. The voices in my head told me 🙏

[vapid parcel]

HOLY SHIT I HAVE NOT SEEN THE CLIP BOARD IN AGES

[viscid hornet]

im gonna move your clip down

think about it

[vapid parcel]

Nooo pls dont 🙏

[viscid hornet]

[naive briar]

What's happening

[vapid parcel]

talking about AI in py projects

thats all.

[viscid hornet]

wow you must really like cats

[vapid parcel]

no

I think they hate cats, just assuming ofc

[viscid hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shake-gif-19831790

shut up

[vapid parcel]

ilyt bro

[wanton current]

that's it

i'm moving your clip down

[slate swan]

quick question. how do i make a command that is something like
.help <other info thing>
i have the prefix set up its just the command needed and i dont know how to

[fast osprey]

You may want to consider migrating to app commands, where documentation is embedded into when the user runs the command

[slate swan]

and how do i do that?

[fast osprey]

depends on the library you're using

[hearty basalt]

if you're using discord.py you could create a slash command group which would be exactly what you're looking for

or do you want to specifically use a prefix command?

[loud socket]

In d.py call @bot.command(name="name") assuming you using discord.ext to import commands

Or you can use @bot.commands() with async def <command name> (cxt):

For slash commands that I highly recommend you can use @bot.tree.commands() with a similar way to @bot.commands but also make sure to bot.tree.sync()

[crisp tree]

@anyone can someone help me creating a discord bot

i am almost complete

but due to various issues i cant complete it

for example everything was going well until my openai ran out

im currently using replit

i want my bot to send specific replies

how do i do all of this

can someone suggest an ai which is freee

[slate swan]

you won't get an ai suggestion here so that you can code a bot with pure ai and having zero knowledge of what you're doing. this channel (server) is not made for that.
it's made for people who want to actually learn the language and build something with their knowledge, and not copy paste whatever random words an LLM throws at you.

[south shell]

Hello everyone ! does anyone knows how to send a message to the user when it add my app to there account?

[woeful hill]

don't do that

if they add the bot to their account, they know what they are doing, you don't need to send an instruction on how to use the bot

[slate swan]

worth mentioning that it may lead to your bot getting into quarantine for spam/suspicious behavior

[south shell]

fair

[timber dragon]

You can subscribe to the webhook event for it tho
https://discord.com/developers/docs/events/webhook-events#event-types

[south shell]

okkayy thanks you

[south shell]

how to make the bot say thanks you for inviting me or something like that when it join a discord server

[quick gust]

!d discord.on_guild_join

[unkempt canyon]

discord.on\_guild\_join

discord.on_guild_join(guild)```
Called when a [`Guild`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api.html#discord.Guild) is either created by the [`Client`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api.html#discord.Client) or when the [`Client`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api.html#discord.Client) joins a guild.

This requires [`Intents.guilds`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api.html#discord.Intents.guilds) to be enabled.

[south shell]

is there any way to get the channel id?

[quick gust]

what channel id?

[south shell]

where the bot join

like the first one it shows

[quick gust]

a bot joins a server not a channel

[quick gust]

not that I'm aware of

[south shell]

aww, ig i'm just gunna check for system_channel

[slate swan]

You can use that or for example search for a general name channel, or just any channel where the bot has permissions to send messages in

[south shell]

i'll just do

try system_channel
if no
check all channel until works

[slate swan]

No need to try to send the message, check if the bot has permissions

[south shell]

yes

thanks you

[fast osprey]

Or just don't send random messages people haven't asked for

[south shell]

How to use custom bot emoji (like the one uploaded to the bot?

[slate swan]

Like any other custom emoji

<name:id> / <a:name:id>

https://discord.com/developers/docs/reference#message-formatting

[south shell]

Had to use
discord.PartialEmoji(name='', id=)

[viscid hornet]

what?

just write it literally?

[south shell]

Now it works, like to add reaction from custom bot emojis

I used this

[viscid hornet]

ah ok makes sense

i thought you meant for sending them

[viscid hornet]

discord issue with discord-rpc
-# yes i know it's a JS library, but the main focus isnt JS

what the hell is this: ```ts
{
code: 5000,
message: 'OAuth2 Authorization Error: Unknown Error'
}

i've genuinely never seen a more uninformative error message

[slate swan]

A standard OAuth2 error occurred; check the data object for the OAuth2 error details.

You have that data object?

[viscid hornet]

yeah that's the entire data object

Error: [object Object]
    at RPCClient._onRpcMessage (C:\Users\james.griggs\Desktop\i hate programming pt 2\typescript projects\testing-purposes\node_modules\discord-rpc\src\client.js:178:19)
    at IPCTransport.emit (node:events:519:28)
    at C:\Users\james.griggs\Desktop\i hate programming pt 2\typescript projects\testing-purposes\node_modules\discord-rpc\src\transports\ipc.js:138:18
    at decode (C:\Users\james.griggs\Desktop\i hate programming pt 2\typescript projects\testing-purposes\node_modules\discord-rpc\src\transports\ipc.js:92:5)
    at Socket.<anonymous> (C:\Users\james.griggs\Desktop\i hate programming pt 2\typescript projects\testing-purposes\node_modules\discord-rpc\src\transports\ipc.js:120:7)
    at Socket.emit (node:events:519:28)
    at emitReadable_ (node:internal/streams/readable:832:12)
    at process.processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:81:21) {
  code: 5000,
  data: { code: 5000, message: 'OAuth2 Authorization Error: Unknown Error' }
}

[slate swan]

there should be a body with the details

otherwise show the code, even though it's js

or you can go in https://discord.gg/djs

[viscid hornet]

thats all it gives me

[viscid hornet]

import { Client } from 'discord-rpc';
import { CLIENT_ID, CLIENT_SECRET } from './vars.js';

const client = new Client({
    transport: 'ipc'
});

client.on('ready', () => {
    // console.log(`Logged in as ${client.application!.name}`);
    console.log(`Authed for user ${client.user!.username!}`);
});

async function main() {
    await client.login({
        clientId: CLIENT_ID,
        //  clientSecret: CLIENT_SECRET,
        // scopes: ['rpc', 'rpc.activities.write']
    });
}

main();

for the login i was tryna copy discord-vscode since that seems to work

[viscid hornet]

14k online HAS to be a lie. i haven't had a reply in over an hour

no

nearly two hours

[slate swan]

tried https://github.com/discordjs/RPC/blob/master/test/rp.js?

the .login() part you shouldn't use that require thing but rather your current way of doing it

same for the imports, keep your currents

also make sure the client id is a string

[south shell]

is there anyway to get all the user that added my discord bot to there APPs?

[timber dragon]

Nope

[south shell]

Aww, sad

[sonic island]

hello

[south shell]

Yes?

Oh you're asking here

Rules
Do not offer or ask for paid work of any kind.

Use something like fiverr

[slate swan]

!rule paid work

[unkempt canyon]

Rules

9. Do not offer or ask for paid work of any kind.

[south shell]

Or on any marketplace

[slate swan]

go to fiverr or upwork

[sonic island]

oh

[south shell]

Or any discord that accept this

[sonic island]

ok

[south shell]

Like disboard and search for marketplace or idk

[sonic island]

This interaction failed - when i press 1 button

[unkempt canyon]

Click here to see this code in our pastebin.

[viscid hornet]

wheres the code from

also why are you adding buttons manually

you dont even set a callback on any of them

[south shell]

How to explain a command

@app_commands.command(name="set_verification", description="Set verification role, challenge level, and optional verification channel.")

to explain which is what

founded

@app_commands.describe(
first_value='The first value you want to add something to',
second_value='The value you want to add to the first value',
)

[fast osprey]

Can also use docstrings

[viscid hornet]

yeah docstrings are the easiest way

[cunning blade]

Hello, everyone?
Anyone knows how to get user's bio information using discord bot?

[fast osprey]

Bots are not given access to that

[cunning blade]

So, you mean we can't get that information?

[fast osprey]

Not with a bot, no

[stark ingot]

Automod can access it if you are looking to do some simple moderation of it

[south shell]

If you use discord Prívate API you can, but is it allowed I do not know at all but the V10/User something does work

[fast osprey]

"Private api" here means impersonating a user, which is against tos

[unreal bay]

https://discord.com/channels/267624335836053506/1349683160425693215

[south shell]

How to detect when someone reply to your bot??

[naive briar]

on_message and check if the sender of message.reference is your bot

!d discord.Message.reference

[unkempt canyon]

discord.Message.reference

The message that this message references. This is only applicable to message replies (MessageType.reply), crossposted messages created by a followed channel integration, forwarded messages, and messages of type...

[south shell]

Thanks!

[frosty thorn]

whats the best way to integrate music functionality to your discord bot? i've tried ydtl with ffmpeg and doesnt seem to be working

[slate swan]

!ytdl

[unkempt canyon]

Our youtube-dl, or equivalents, policy

Per Python Discord's Rule 5, we are unable to assist with questions related to youtube-dl, pytube, or other YouTube video downloaders, as their usage violates YouTube's Terms of Service.

For reference, this usage is covered by the following clauses in YouTube's TOS, as of 2021-03-17:

The following restrictions apply to your use of the Service. You are not allowed to:

1. access, reproduce, download, distribute, transmit, broadcast, display, sell, license, alter, modify or otherwise use any part of the Service or any Content except: (a) as specifically permitted by the Service;  (b) with prior written permission from YouTube and, if applicable, the respective rights holders; or (c) as permitted by applicable law;

3. access the Service using any automated means (such as robots, botnets or scrapers) except: (a) in the case of public search engines, in accordance with YouTube’s robots.txt file; (b) with YouTube’s prior written permission; or (c) as permitted by applicable law;

9. use the Service to view or listen to Content other than for personal, non-commercial use (for example, you may not publicly screen videos or stream music from the Service)

[frosty thorn]

what about any free music api's?

[slate swan]

It's not about being paid or free

Music is copyrighted, we won't help you breach copyright laws

Will also likely lead to your bot getting terminated, eventually discord account as well, so don't do it

If not, then you'll likely get a C&D letter from the service you're breaching the ToS, e.g. Google

[fast osprey]

There is unlikely to be an api that hosts things for you for free that consists entirely of music that artists have signed away their copyrights to. They get absolutely nothing from doing that, and even then it's not going to be music you or users will want.

There are already music sharing services that properly compensate their artists. Do something else with your time

[sage flint]

hello

where do I go to get help configuring a Solana trading bot with Py

[south shell]

how to make so my commands does not show on other discord server (app)

@app_commands.allowed_contexts(guilds=True, dms=True, private_channels=True)
@app_commands.user_install()

i use this

but even when i remove them they stiull shows up

[timber dragon]

Wdym "other discord server"

Do you want it to only show up in...

• certain servers?
• thr bot's dm?
• anyone's dm?
• dm group?
• any combinations of the 4?

[south shell]

found

@app_commands.guild_only()

okay no it does not work

just want to make app command to only works on guild

because like it is installed on account and dont want them to show up there

[timber dragon]

Make sure you've synced

[south shell]

@bot.event
async def on_ready():
try:
await load_cogs()
except Exception as e:
print(e)
await bot.tree.sync()

I got this but my bot use app_commands

so feel like bot.tree.sync

like it updates the commands but not the status

maybe they should be synced in the cogs too?

[fast osprey]

You shouldn't be doing any of this in on_ready

read the docs for it

[timber dragon]

Try reloading your app

[south shell]

I reloaded it 10 times haha

i've maked eeverything app_commands so no more tree

[timber dragon]

What

[south shell]

@app_commands.guild_only()
@discord.app_commands.command(name="", description="")
@app_commands.choices(action=[
app_commands.Choice(name="enable", value="enable"),
app_commands.Choice(name="disable", value="disable"),
app_commands.Choice(name="status", value="status")
])
@app_commands.default_permissions(administrator=True)

like this

[timber dragon]

@bot.tree.command() is the same as @app_commands.command(), with the addition that it also adds the command to the tree.

Else you need to add the command to tree manually if not inside a cog

[south shell]

there all inside a cog

[timber dragon]

Ah

[south shell]

async def setup(bot):
await bot.add_cog(MuteCog(bot))

here how it looks in case

[timber dragon]

Make sure they're all intended correctly and that the extension is actually loaded

[south shell]

yep there all loaded

[timber dragon]

And manually sync them

[south shell]

how?

[timber dragon]

Preferably using a prefix command

Call <bot>.tree.sync and check the output

[south shell]

okkay

let me try

all of them still shows

[timber dragon]

Did sync return the command that you're trying to sync

[south shell]

@bot.command(description="sync all global commands")
@commands.is_owner()
async def syncslash(ctx: commands.Context):
if ctx.author.id == 1219523120919220225:
try:
await bot.tree.sync()
print("Synced")
except discord.Forbidden:
await ctx.send("Unexpected forbidden from application scope.")
else:
await ctx.send("You must be the owner to use this commands

it printed out Synced

wait

now, nothing shows up

my bad i removed the on ready

@discord.app_commands.allowed_installs(guilds=True)
@app_commands.allowed_contexts(guilds=True, dms=False, private_channels=False)

[timber dragon]

you don't need to set everything to False explicitly

just like you didn't for installs

[stark pulsar]

dont do that, dont put ur bot.tree.sync() in the on_ready event

[stark pulsar]

@discord.app_commands.allowed_installs(guilds=True) is fine

u dont have to add @app_commands.allowed_contexts(guilds=True, dms=False, private_channels=False)

[south shell]

i dont see the bad thing

like only if you have a lot of things to sync

[fast osprey]

Do you understand how on_ready works?

[smoky sinew]

Only discord py devs have a problem with this

Every other lib does it fine

[slate swan]

Not really, that's just people misunderstanding the event

It doesn't matter which library, the events are sent by Discord the same way for everyone

Other libs have some on_connect or whatever event where they also auto-sync in the background, which does what people think the ready event does. It doesn't mean discord.py is the issue, it's just devs not reading the docs and assuming what an event does

Maybe other libs do some checking in the background to see if it effectively needs to sync the command(s) again, but I guess that would involve other requests or something to get the current commands.

If they don't, which I doubt when they implement an auto-sync, then it's a great way to get rate limited for the day

[timber dragon]

Ya afaik the dpy forks check the current commands against those in the code on startup and reloading etc requires manual syncing

[slate swan]

Then it's definitely some convenience and personal choice, I'd prefer the bot to sync its commands when I want it to sync

[timber dragon]

someone in dpy is looking into a reliable way to optionally auto sync using hashes: https://discord.com/channels/336642139381301249/1326219331050147940

[naive briar]

I did something like that a year-ish ago

It's for an argument if I remember correctly

[dark holly]

hey yall, its my first time trying to make a discord bot, im following this tut on youtube and I wrote all code the same way he did but for some reason there is a bunch of errors in the terminal that dont make sense to me... Could anyone be able to help me?

[fast osprey]

People on YouTube make shit up or just flat out lie. I strongly suggest you don't use that as a foundation

It's a bunch of kids in their basement guessing at stuff for internet points. You're much better off following the official documentation and examples from the library you're using

[dark holly]

alright thanks,

[shrewd apex]

https://github.com/FallenDeity/discord.py-masterclass/blob/master/examples%2Fsmart-sync%2Futils%2Ftree.py I was experimenting with something similar for smart sync, via building a diff object between the current commands and the global synced commands, not sure how sound the current impl is but last i checked it was working for most stuff

[humble nacelle]

!e print('hello')

[unkempt canyon]

:white_check_mark: Your 3.12 eval job has completed with return code 0.

hello

[dry kelp]

Could this type of comparation issue? using a boolean comparasion and a XOR check?

[quick gust]

What's your question?

[fast osprey]

Also discord already grants a role when someone boosts that you can customize and/or grant permissions to. There shouldn't be a need for you to track this

[dry kelp]

If that could potentially issue.

[dry kelp]

I do know that, we're allowing users to customize they're own award roles (multiple)

[slate swan]

honestly props to you because we barely see code like that in this channel

most of the time it's code thrown by an llm or copy pasted off 5 years old tutorials

[fast osprey]

There's not a functional reason to make more roles, when you're already given one role that does what you want and can be customized. But you do you

[dry kelp]

bahahahah, we've spoken in the past, i dont know if you remember, check dms 🤣

[dry kelp]

Welp, some people like to grant additional roles while someone boosts... so why not making it... costs me nothing...

[fast osprey]

Your call what to do with your time. People want all sorts of trivial useless junk that doesnt actually mean anything

[dry kelp]

If i remember correctly you also said making antinukes is useless

and i remember we've argued about that

but sadly discord cannot do this, and neither limit actions, i do love the threshold logical system into limiting the actions, since discord does not provide and actual limitations towards that

[viscid hornet]

counting bot

[quick gust]

What does this do differently/better than Xenon?

[fast osprey]

Anywho you shouldn't be looping and calling add_roles or remove_roles multiple times with one role each time. Just send them all at once

[dry kelp]

Automated recovery too, that happens in the security protections, and because xenon has a cooldown of how long? 24 hours?

[dry kelp]

• if you wanna see, you can read here: https://spookybot.net/docs/security/antinuke-premium

[quick gust]

What are the recovery percentages based upon? and how are you estimating it?

[dry kelp]

It's an estimation made base of myself, in between the things we can / don't / can't do

That we do mention in tier differences, as in free we mention channel protection may work in limited scenarios

if a category gets deleted, we do not re-edit childs to parent

For level 2, we use the bulk restore method of the saved snapshot into our database, to ensure everything gets back as it was previously saved

[dry kelp]

• we use signoz for more infrastructure monitoring

and we actually manage to recover big servers, as you can see in home page, our bot may not be in a lot of servers, but it is in lots if big servers used as main bot

[hearty basalt]

you seem fun at parties :Dd

[tawny junco]

ayo that's sick

[tawny junco]

Does it give the members back their roles

[viscid hornet]

he has a point. it's not really about being a killjoy, it's more about investing in something practical as opposed to reinventing the wheel

[tawny junco]

I do agree tbh. If you already have an automatic role that a booster receives, just edit that same role to fulfil the purpose of a reward role. It just feels right.

But the antinuke I gotta give you credit for lol. It looks satisfying

[dry kelp]

I mean, if anti role remove protection is enabled, of course, we've also made the authorization possible in case of mass bans / kicks the bot can re-add members abck to the server

but that's members choice, if they want to authoritize the bot.

[tawny junco]

Wym "re-add"? Don't you have to invite first?

[dry kelp]

• we're also trying to create custom profiles

[dry kelp]

If authorization is allowed members will be automatically be re-added

[tawny junco]

Interesting

[dry kelp]

This is work in progress still, might take some time, since im currently doing a re-polish over the files

[dry kelp]

we do mention it here

[tawny junco]

Messages will be forever lost tho right

[dry kelp]

there is no point to restore messages

• it would be very very bad

[tawny junco]

What about faqs and rules list

resources

all gone

[dry kelp]

So, the only problem i see doing that it's

1. Affecting user's privacy

2. Lots of data stored (if big servers, multiple channels, storing even 100 messsages per channel its already a big nono)

[dry kelp]

really easy to get done back, and most people to embeds... so...

i might finish up the embed creator feature by today, since i've already globalized the ui

This type of editor, 1 developer that sadly is not in the team anymore, done this for us, but he done it just for welcomer, i've already revamped it and globalized it, so for our booster message we use the same builder

[hearty basalt]

ay wsg spooky

[dry kelp]

Hey!

oh ic ur in memeified

[hearty basalt]

i have no clue what servers im in

😭

[dry kelp]

memeified 😭

it's one of our biggest supporters

[hearty basalt]

got like 8 folders

most of the servers ive joined are for stickers n emotes lmao

[dry kelp]

it's a big server that supported me a lot 🙏

[hearty basalt]

W

i remember i joined memefied for exactly 1 or 2 stickers

[dry kelp]

Yeh, it's very nice ppl

really supported me a lot, and they mostly main bot for features, including our security

[hearty basalt]

i remember you showed me get to get a user's discord badges

rahhh

[dry kelp]

i dont remember 😭

i stopped my dms

had so many dms one day i just couldn't keep up

[hearty basalt]

famous

[dry kelp]

na bro, i really dont act holywood

most ppl on this app act hollywood

like they selena gomez or sum shit

[hearty basalt]

im jus fuckin around on bandlab cs im way too bored

[dry kelp]

i been spending the last hours refactoring some docstrings and im still not done

not fun

[slate swan]

the amount of files

[hearty basalt]

seems exciting

[dry kelp]

multi purpose... what can i do....

we globalized everything we could of had

there's no such as repetitive code

[hearty basalt]

the first bot i made i put everything in main.py cs i didnt know how cogs work 🗣️ 🗣️

[slate swan]

yeh it's just overwhelming

[hearty basalt]

neither do i now 🗣️

[dry kelp]

This is all globalized used in multiple files 😭

[slate swan]

i tend to split projects in various repos to prevent that

[dry kelp]

bahahhaa

[dry kelp]

i mean... that's personal preferences

[slate swan]

yeah definitely

[dry kelp]

im used to this file tree, if you would spend 30-40 mins reading it, im 100% sure you'll understand it

[slate swan]

oh yeah that's not the issue, i just find it like too much - not a personal fan of monorepos

though if i'd make a project in a monorepo pretty sure i'd get used to it fast

[dry kelp]

i mean, ofc website is on a different repo bahahahhaa

[dry kelp]

what do you think of coolify?

[slate swan]

ah, the bot folder at the top probably confused me

[slate swan]

never heard of

[dry kelp]

Ohhh, it helps us to have 0 downtime

whenever a new commit is done, it gets queued, then deployed

[slate swan]

mmkay, looks nice

[dry kelp]

old instance will run till the new one is ready

[slate swan]

yeah i use k8s etc.

[dry kelp]

bot will dispatch once on_ready is fired

[slate swan]

it probably uses k8s in the background tbh

[dry kelp]

also easy to manage databases, for testing

since the production bot is connected to an actual database cluster

[tawny junco]

You're not using cogs? is this dpy?

[dry kelp]

we're using disnake

[dry kelp]

ofc we do have cogs bahahahhaha

they load inside of the init files

[slate swan]

would be one hell of a mess otherwise

[tawny junco]

oh

[dry kelp]

i agree LMFAO

i also need to make these docstrings omfgggg

and i need to find out how to delay dispath method by 10 seconds

last time i tried, it never dispatched

[hearty basalt]

are docstrings the things that popup when youre using a function

the luh description

[dry kelp]

docstrings is whatever you see inside of the """

[slate swan]

yeah

[dry kelp]

it helps to understand the purpose of that specific thing

[slate swan]

i hate how it's in python tbh

[dry kelp]

BAHAHAHAHAHAH

[slate swan]

the fact that it's below the function definition and not above

when you have a long function definition, pain

[dry kelp]

i'll have lots of fun

[slate swan]

when it's relatively small, yeah sure

but otherwise, pain pain

[dry kelp]

for me, this looks way better

i've refactored this already

food arrived, quick break

[south shell]

Is there any on_webhook_create?

[dry kelp]

yeah

its all related to webhook protection

[dry kelp]

that one means whenever a webhook gets created, bot will punish and delete webhook

[dry kelp]

ah shi i thought u meant on my file tree

what you are looking for is on_webhook_update, thats what keeps track of created webhooks

[south shell]

Haha, yes that what i was thinking

I'm working on multipurpose bot too

Thanks !!

[dry kelp]

no problem 😉

[dry kelp]

good luck!

[south shell]

Haha yes

[dry kelp]

its not easy😭😭

[south shell]

Rn I have custom antirais

Antiraid, spam

Now gotta do bot, webhook

[dry kelp]

yeah, these are basic rulers, can easily keep track

i ll get into anti raid soon

but the antinuke is really master done

[south shell]

You check like for 3 channels deleted

And it bans

[dry kelp]

no

lol

[south shell]

It would work

[dry kelp]

we have threshold system

[south shell]

Yes logiv

[dry kelp]

to adapt to the users needs

[south shell]

Logic

[dry kelp]

we also have this

being sent rn

we reduced api calls, all existing checks for params to only update, if not existing it creates

[south shell]

I will work on this too

[dry kelp]

but ofc we have a priority list, so we can sort channels and categories

good luck, i spent 50 hours doing a refactor on it

and base was started by another in the development team and took like a week

can raise so many issues

[south shell]

Oh lol

[dry kelp]

its easier if you make a safe execute and u pass the coro in it

and dont do try except pass, use contextlib instead

you save up some lines

[frosty thorn]

how do i keep my bot on replit running for 24/7?

[timber dragon]

Pay up

[quick gust]

Don't use replit

[timber dragon]

Or rent an actual host

[quick gust]

No point paying for replit just to be able to host properly, buy a cheap vps at that point

[frosty thorn]

there is no way around? there is no public url for uptime

[fast osprey]

The way around is to use an environment designed for what you're trying to do

[stark ingot]

They changed how the projects stay online. Uptime robots no longer work

[frosty thorn]

what other alternatives are there except railway?

[fast osprey]

.

[stark ingot]

Like said above, a VPS or hosting it yourself on your own hardware

[sick birch]

!discord-bot-hosting

[unkempt canyon]

Discord Bot Hosting

Using free hosting options like repl.it for continuous 24/7 bot hosting is strongly discouraged.
Instead, opt for a virtual private server (VPS) or use your own spare hardware if you'd rather not pay for hosting.

See our Discord Bot Hosting Guide on our website that compares many hosting providers, both free and paid.

You may also use #965291480992321536 to discuss different discord bot hosting options.

[sick birch]

some popular ones are AWS, Azure, Digital Ocean and Hostinger

personally I prefer AWS but it's a bit pricey

[keen dune]

I'm learning AWS specifically to host my bot and it's dashboard

I used replit before but the downtime was atrocious

[sick birch]

nice. aws downtime should be minimal

[dry kelp]

I suggest you using hetzner

it's very cheap, and very good and safe

personally we run our application on ipv6, thru firewall you can allow connections that you only want to connect

and a pro top, for max security if you have a website, use clouflare 20$ tier

very safe

@slate swan

[scarlet tiger]

GalaxyGate is also very good, I've been using their service for a year

[dry kelp]

don't ask about vape feature...

86k commands usage in 4 days 🤣

[timber dragon]

What does the vape command do 💀

[dry kelp]

so only 1 person can claim the vape

then they can steal from each other

while vaping, with default vape u have a chanhe to earn spukies

u can buy better vapes, earn more money

we also post unique limited vapes

there is also achievements

[quick gust]

💀

[timber dragon]

Oh god

[quick gust]

were there no better options for an item than a vape

[timber dragon]

That's amazing

[dry kelp]

its honestly a feature that got lots of people addicted

and these achicements will be badges on our custom profiles

https://spookybot.net/profile/spooky

[dry kelp]

vape its like a branch of economy system

[timber dragon]

So can you prevent it from being stolen?

[dry kelp]

items coming out soon, with different abilities

its overall a nice feature

[timber dragon]

Nice

[dry kelp]

and we dont display limited vapes in store

just people inventory

@timber dragon as u can see thats how limited vapes get displayer

displayed

[timber dragon]

Ooh

[dry kelp]

thats embed of user inventory

[timber dragon]

Good stuff

[dry kelp]

i made it in less than a day tbh

and to keep a easy track, all vapes are inside of an enum, they're marked with 1,2 etc. to keep an easy track of user inventory

and if i change the enum with the attributes, it will change very easily

i just need to add the docstrings... but it's what im currently working on

i just finished doing it on economy

been doing it for a long time and im just half done...

[timber dragon]

Nice nice

[fast bane]

Is there a channel where I can sort of advertise a need for a dev for a bot? If so is this it?

[dry kelp]

I don't know that aspect, but if you'd like, you could dm me.

[south shell]

is there any way to set guild image from url

because

because url under /icons are blocked to be seen

[dry kelp]

I think i know what your problem is

you're trying to reverse the action as anti icon and anti banner?

[south shell]

restore

[dry kelp]

cdns of discord now expire, once image is changed, the old image cannot be retrieved anymore

[south shell]

well it seem to still

[dry kelp]

its not possible

[south shell]

or maybe it is in cache

of discord

[dry kelp]

reason why we've set it to premium security to level 1, and we store the assets bytes

[south shell]

oooh okay

[dry kelp]

Nope... once image of guild changed

it's not possible to retrieve it anymore

You can get current one, that's set, but if that's changed, old one is unfindable

[south shell]

remove so no flood

it still shows

guild icon is not the same

[dry kelp]

I may didn't understand your point, but if your point, is to get an old icon, that got changed, you cannot retrieve it

[south shell]

nooo

update the image from url

[dry kelp]

welp, u need to convert it to image bytes

[south shell]

ah

[dry kelp]

so u need to use aiohttp

to get that url

[south shell]

oooh okay

i undestand but the url is blocked by discord

[dry kelp]

and to convert u could do a variable, as image_bytes = response.content response being the response from aiohttp

[south shell]

like you can't get it from only the url it goes to image-1 cdn

[dry kelp]

what do you mean?

[south shell]

like when you try to get the response from the website

so the https://cdn.discordapp.com/icons

you can't because it only shows if you go on a sub domain with some kind of token behind

[dry kelp]

yeah but u need the actual url of the image

not this

or i may just not understand what you're trying to do, since im so fucking tired

and im still doing docstrings... ill dream of docstrings tonight

[south shell]

me on google it is not able to scrap it

[dry kelp]

i mean you can make this much easier if it's an actual cdn that never expired

by reading it

[glad cradle]

or if they have the actual url to the asset they just need to make a GET request to it

[vapid parcel]

Is discords API down?

[dry kelp]

https://discordstatus.com/

everything looks operational

[slate swan]

it has issues

[vapid parcel]

Things are returning a 503.

that status page is not up to date.

[slate swan]

oauth2 and interactions have issues

[vapid parcel]

Alr, thank you

Interactions were the issue on my end

Love the API issues sometimes lmao

[slate swan]

it's weekend + middle of night at discord, probably will get updated in some time

[vapid parcel]

yeah

[slate swan]

sounds like a friday deploy :^)

[vapid parcel]

like next year

[dry kelp]

i see

[slate swan]

the only things at discord that they try super hard to get to 100% uptime

[vapid parcel]

This is funny asf actually

I love this dude 😭

points out something ive never noticied and I fucking love that its THOSE 2 things out of EVERYTHING lmao

[slate swan]

gotta be realistic right :^)

[vapid parcel]

i love you bro, god thats actually crazy.

Love this company lmao

[buoyant saffron]

just business things lmao

[slate swan]

obv

[dry kelp]

discord store is very lame

can't even access it from a phone, only thru link is accesible

[wise mica]

is there a way to edit just a single part of an embed from a different command?

[wise mica]

server subscription stuff payment is also locked to US only lol

[dry kelp]

you mean only people from us buy?

I don't think that's true, since we use that on our bot

[wise mica]

not on bots but on the server itself

[dry kelp]

ohhh

[wise mica]

dont suppose you know the answer to this, just so it doesnt get lost @dry kelp

[fast osprey]

You don't edit embeds. You edit messages. You can pass whatever embeds you want to be on the message after the edit

[wise mica]

nevermind i figured it out, had to use the . to change rather than overwrite

[glad cradle]

that's not true

[wise mica]

https://creator-support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/10424143128343-Creator-Revenue-FAQ#h_01GJGZ0VGMAM0ESAGGWGAMF7JQ

[wise mica]

my issue was more so i was i didnt know how to edit a specific field and instead setting the embed to just be the new field

[vapid parcel]

well they were talking Discord Store, not Server Subscription

But yes, Server Subscription is only locked to the US, but Discord Store is not.

[wise mica]

yea, i was adding onto what was said, hence why i used the word also

[vapid parcel]

ah alr, mb

[dry kelp]

My bad, didn't see

Yes, you can edit the embed message

just certain parts

[wise mica]

yea i got it working, ty though

[dry kelp]

my apologies for late reply 🙏

[wise mica]

i was trying to do it via field="whatever

rather than embed.title = "whatever"

[dry kelp]

i mean im quite sure u had to check old content then update to the desidered content

[wise mica]

yea i had that i was just rewriting over it

[dry kelp]

i see i see, im happy u got it working, not something i've personally done..,

[vapid parcel]

its easier to make an embed builder, and then an embed editor

[dry kelp]

agreed

waiting for buttons in embed

[wise mica]

i agree, i should do that, but i would find it easier to do it this way

[wise mica]

it doesnt seem like most people have since info on it is somewhat scarce

[vapid parcel]

Something like this ^

[wise mica]

unless im missing something i couldnt add that into my code though ?

[vapid parcel]

Why is that?

thats just an embed builder lol

[wise mica]

im making a trade command and id want the embed to reflect changes when a user adds or removes stuff, how would the embed builder enhance that ?

[vapid parcel]

oh, i thought you were talking about an embed editor n embed builder

mb

[wise mica]

all good i can be bad at explaining things, i appreciate the help always

[vapid parcel]

Yeah ofc

I just love that embed builder a lot though, so I thought thats what you meant tbh

[wise mica]

im hoping i can get someone else to design my embeds for me after im done with everything, since design is not my speciality at all

[vapid parcel]

it should be easy

[wise mica]

my first thought of embed builder was a function that takes all the arguments youd want in an embed and then spits it back out without typing all the embed syntax every time lol

[vapid parcel]

ah,i was thinking of an actual embed builder for users to use lmao

ig im slow xD

[quick gust]

this is what I do for that:
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/XSQA

[timber dragon]

Why are author etc supposed to be in **kwargs instead of being part of the signature?

[south shell]

i saw some discord bot that are able to read discord message to detect keywords is there any way (it worked on javascript) (discord apps)

[fast osprey]

Sure it is possible. It depends what you're trying to do

[stark ingot]

It should just be a simple on_message event that checks if "keyword" in message.content

[quick gust]

Because I'm not adding an author in majority of the embeds. The only arguments which are a part of the signature are the ones I will be using 99% of the time

[south shell]

no

because when i do on_message and send any message in dm it does not print at all

[stark ingot]

DM with the bot or some random user?

[south shell]

random user

[stark ingot]

well... how would a bot see your DMs with a different user

[south shell]

discord apps

[timber dragon]

I still don't see why it can't just be part of the signature, when the function always checks if the key exists in the dict.

[south shell]

i saw a bot do this

[stark ingot]

Bots cant read your DMs with other users

[south shell]

and apps can? or not

[quick gust]

Personal preference, it looks cleaner that way
This is supposed to be a private project so it's not like, adding all those in the signature for the IDE autocomplete to detect, is useful either

[stark ingot]

technically there is a way but you need to be a partner with discord. I think only xbox or something is allowed to use that feature

[south shell]

hmm okay ! by checking it back it seems to not work, or maytbe i'm just crazy haha

[stark ingot]

You can use app commands in DMs but you cant view random messages

[south shell]

Yea, fair

is it allowed to make a discord app join a discord server on add?

just a 1 time join no spam or those goofy backup bot

[fast osprey]

Humans have to add bots to servers

[south shell]

I mean like when you add the bot to your personal app with the join server for you permission

[stark ingot]

If you are talking about a bot that adds a user to a server:
You need to get the users permission.

[fast osprey]

That lets the bot make you join servers

That doesn't let the bot join servers

[south shell]

yes, with the "join server for you" permission, but any idea how to make so when they accept, it makes them join the server? using discord.py or requests idk

[fast osprey]

That's an oauth operation, not a gateway bot operation

[stark ingot]

I think that is out of scope for most discord bot libraries but I dont use discord.py. You can look to see if there is a python OAUTH library

[south shell]

client = discordoauth2.Client(849930878276993044, secret="very-secret-code",
redirect="https://findingfakeurlsisprettyhard.tv/oauth2", bot_token="bot-token-only-required-for-guild-joining-or-updating-linked-roles-metadata")
app = Flask(__name__)

client.update_linked_roles_metadata([
    {
        "type": 2,
        "key": "level",
        "name": "Level",
        "description": "The level the user is on"
    },
    {
        "type": 7,
        "key": "supporter",
        "name": "Supporter",
        "description": "Spent money to help the game"
    }
])

@app.route('/')
def main():
  return redirect(client.generate_uri(scope=["identify", "connections", "guilds", "role_connections.write"]))

@app.route("/oauth2")
def oauth2():
    code = request.args.get("code")

    access = client.exchange_code(code)

    access.update_metadata("Platform Name", "Username",  level=69, supporter=True)

    identify = access.fetch_identify()
    connections = access.fetch_connections()
    guilds = access.fetch_guilds()

    return f"""{identify}<br><br>{connections}<br><br>{guilds}"""

app.run("0.0.0.0", 8080)```

like this lib?

But you don't need a website domain?

[stark ingot]

I have never worked with OAUTH ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[south shell]

like it run on 0.0.0.0 but this https://findingfakeurlsisprettyhard.tv/oauth2

[south shell]

XDD, sad

[fast osprey]

Oauth flows require you to host a site for the callback redirect so that discord can send you the token

[south shell]

ye that what i think

[fast osprey]

What's the actual goal you're trying to accomplish here?

Typically you really only need this oauth scope if you're actively gating a sensitive server behind custom verification

Otherwise people can just join on their own or be given a link

[stark pulsar]

can someone help me design this ugly ass embed

im ass at designing

[stark ingot]

looks fine to me, you might want to include the ID of users as well. Also the timestamp in the embed is not needed if the time that the message was sent is the same

[timber dragon]

Last field looks unnecessary

[shadow vigil]

last field can be a link something like "click here to view chat log" or a jump link, where it jumps to the chat

also make use of the author part

[timber dragon]

I would put everything in the description instead to make it smaller

Reporter: mention (ID)
Reported by: mention (ID)
Reason: repr()
Thread: ... (ID: )

But I am also bad at designing lol

[stark pulsar]

we delete the threads because this bot will be implemented in a server with 700k members so it might flood the archives

[stark pulsar]

oooh

[stark ingot]

you can have unlimited archived threads

[timber dragon]

Yeah you don't need to delete it all haha

[shadow vigil]

why don't you guys make use of chennel threads instead? they can be private and hidden from members and mods so they don't flood as you say. also a dm to the user to be able to access it anytime (assuming mods would have a logs channel)

[stark pulsar]

i didnt want to delete them either, but the owner of the server was insistent

[stark ingot]

fair enough

[stark pulsar]

yeah i wouldve preferred that

but archived threads delete after 7 days, and i suppose he wants a permanent transcript

[stark ingot]

archived threads delete after 7 days
this is not true

There are threads that are 3-4 years old in a server I am in and have been inactive for that long as well

[fast osprey]

I think you're confusing auto archiving with auto deleting

[vale bough]

need help anyone?

@tight obsidian

[naive briar]

[vale bough]

can you help me?

[naive briar]

Sure

[vale bough]

i have one slash command bot is not syncing that command

let me send here

[vale bough]

see

[south shell]

do you bot.tree.sync() at some point?

[hearty basalt]

also if it's a new command make sure to ctrl r

[hearty basalt]

if you've synced it like Cyn said

[south shell]

anbd yes restart discord too

[vale bough]

yes

i restart bot so many times

and discord toobut not working

try:
synced = await bot.tree.sync()
print(f"Synced {len(synced)} command(s)")
except Exception as e:
print(e)

await bot.load_extension("commands.owner")
print("Owner commands Loaded!!!")

[shrewd apex]

did it print the amount of commanda synced?

[vale bough]

yes

[shrewd apex]

did it match with the amount of commands you have, you might wanna print that resulting list and check

[vale bough]

yes

[south shell]

you restarted discord

like the command don't show up at all?

[shrewd apex]

!paste the code here then

[unkempt canyon]

Pasting large amounts of code

If your code is too long to fit in a codeblock in Discord, you can paste your code here:
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/

After pasting your code, save it by clicking the Paste! button in the bottom left, or by pressing CTRL + S. After doing that, you will be navigated to the new paste's page. Copy the URL and post it here so others can see it.

[vale bough]

in termimal command succesfuly syced

but in discord not

ok

wait i will send full cog

[shrewd apex]

are u sure ur checking the correct server and the bot was added with application.commands scope

[slate swan]

have you done a ctrl+r

[vale bough]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/X3UA

[slate swan]

you still haven't replied to that

[vale bough]

yes when i make otner comannd that synced succesfuly on discord and on terminal

[slate swan]

alt+f4 discord and start it again

[vale bough]

i did

many time

[slate swan]

then one of the questions above was answered wrongly

[vale bough]

which one

[shrewd apex]

which command is not syncing?

[vale bough]

last one

/give-account

[dry kelp]

Seems like you using discord.py, i am quite sure they handle them and they will sync, always... You could either force sync them, but from the looks of it, you either didn't load cog, or didn't refresh discord, since you need to restart you discord for the interaction commands to update

[shrewd apex]

discord.py dosent auto aync

u always need to sync manually

but yeah prolly something wrt to the latter is true

[south shell]

arez the cogs loaded?

[vale bough]

from in that cog

other command working fine

see

and i already restart discord and bot

[south shell]

Nothing shows in console

no cogs error?

[vale bough]

nope

[timber dragon]

How have you restarted the discord app?

[vale bough]

yes

i did

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[timber dragon]

How

[vale bough]

https://tenor.com/view/do-over-reset-button-gif-15165273

[timber dragon]

Very helpful

Goodluck then

[dry kelp]

oh that's very bad then

@vale bough since you seem to be a begginer using ai to code, i recommend swapping to disnake library

[shrewd apex]

how would ai help in either case?

[dry kelp]

if you want to focus on interaction commands

[dry kelp]

from the code they've sent, it seems like they use AI to code, so it wouldn't be a big deal to swap to disnake

since disnake it's much better for interaction commands, and the library i personally use for my bot

[shrewd apex]

but how would that help with coding using ai? wouldn't it better to recommend resources to learn how to develop?

[dry kelp]

Dude, the code they've sent, it appears that AI coded that

this is the code they've sent

Why would u put an comment saying "# Optionally include more info if available"

[vale bough]

bro i gave that to ai to fix that error

[dry kelp]

as a developer if you do something, and dont even knwo the data you have, it's already a bad start

[shrewd apex]

i am not saying its not ai generated code

[vale bough]

he wrote every thing

and modify the code

[dry kelp]

@vale bough Yeah, i am not blaming you, i am suggesting you, to swap to disnake, if your bot it's not an prefixable bot

[shrewd apex]

but how would disnake resolve the issue of a beginner attempting to code using ai

[slate swan]

since you seem to be a begginer using ai to code, i recommend swapping to disnake library

Just recommending to use disnake as it's easier (won't comment on that) and they won't need AI to use it, unlike what they're doing now.
Not recommending to use AI whatsoever in that message

[dry kelp]

disnake it's much better for interaction

[shrewd apex]

fair enough that i agree with

[dry kelp]

Disnake is friendly for interactions, MUCH more friendly

and you don't need all that sync logic, force sync or whatsoever

[shrewd apex]

i like the interaction client concept

[dry kelp]

Yeah, overall d.py is good, especially for prefixable bots.

But since i am planning to stand on interaction commands, i would rather use disnake

and not a big deal creating custom methods in case i really want an extra

[vale bough]

bro when i create other command bot sync that command smoothly

wth litterly

[dry kelp]

cause d.py is not so good for interaction, but i cannot give you an logically explanation, besides you surely done something wrong.

But since you use AI promts, i recommend swapping to disnake the whole bot, shouldn't be a big change overall, just the way you use interactions

No need for that @app route, with all tree logic, i personally didn't look into and can't understand

[vale bough]

now i need to change 50+ files

[dry kelp]

this is how easy you can create interaction comamnds using disnake

[dry kelp]

You sent this image, are you using 50 files for 33 commands?

that's very bad practice and definitely not recommended

[vale bough]

😂

just kidding

[dry kelp]

most imports are very similiar

[vale bough]

ok i will change to this

[dry kelp]

It's just an recommandation tho, but you do you.

[wise mica]

Have you tried a reset by doing ctrl + r?

[dry kelp]

Yeah, but discord.py doesn't auto sync commands.

apparently, don't have information on that, but that's what it seems, and what they've mentioned in above messages.

[viscid hornet]

@vale bough btw automod exists, so you dont need antilinks

[dry kelp]

Ummm, i am quite positive discord limits regexes allowed...

[wise mica]

Maybe, I didn't read all of his messages but some of his commands have to be synced?

[viscid hornet]

it seems they do. i take it back

[dry kelp]

From the looks, and i am not blaming him for using AI, but that code looks mroe likely AI, so for a beginner it may be a challenge to fix that.

[wise mica]

Also based on his print counting the commands he has, I wouldn't be surprised if his code is the same as mine that I got from a tutorial some time ago

[dry kelp]

I mean 50 files for 30 commands, it's a big no no 😭

i mean we have this massive tree, but shit, 300 commands

[wise mica]

Yea that's a separate issue and one that he's only really going to learn from by doing and making the mistakes

[dry kelp]

very important how cogs managed... especially for public applications, if they are planning to create a public application

1 more thing i've noticed is that they use mongodb, mongo is fine, for a private bot, but not when it comes to a public application...

Personally for a public application, i would recommend PostgreSQL database cluster (or locally thru psql) since they're made perfectly for long term storing data.

[wise mica]

I use mongodb too, even for a public app it should be fine. Poketwo is a huge public app and it uses mongo

[dry kelp]

That's prefereces, if it satisfy they're needs, most bots should work on long/large storing data.

So an option is definetely PostgreSQL

[wise mica]

Sure, but I don't think mongo is a bad choice at all

Especially since it means he won't have to learn SQL alongside learning python

[dry kelp]

There are ORMs, that automatically migrate / upgrade / downgrade database for you

It may slow down a bit the process, but don't think it's a 10 minutes delay, it's a few miliseconds

So no, you don't need to learn "SQL" (would be helpful for query for hand modifications if needed all these can be found online) but what you would need is to read another library that handle this.

[dry kelp]

https://www.sqlalchemy.org/

[fast osprey]

Mongo is a horrid choice, especially if your data is relational

[dry kelp]

• agreed, i wanted to say this but i didnt want to sound like a dick, i didn't know how to formulate 🤣

[fast osprey]

Takes about 5 min of googling to find legions of posts regretting they chose mongo. It's absolutely not a decision someone should make without knowing what relational data even means. But that's very much a #databases subject

[dry kelp]

^^

[wise mica]

What even is there bot

[dry kelp]

?

[wise mica]

Like, what's it's goal

[dry kelp]

Which bot are you talking about?

[wise mica]

Pikachu's, that's the bot we were talking about, no?

[dry kelp]

Oh, he doesn't seem to be among us anymore

🤣

[unreal owl]

@commands.Cog.listener()
    async def on_message(self, msg):
        print("message received")

Anyone got an Idea why msg is always empty?

[wanton current]

do u have message content intent

[unreal owl]

good call, will check now

[fast osprey]

Your code doesnt even check the content

[unreal owl]

@commands.Cog.listener()
    async def on_message(self, msg):
        print("message received")
        # Ignore messages from bots, DMs, empty messages, or very short messages
        if msg.author.bot:
            print("Message is from a bot")
            return
        if not msg.guild:
            print("Message is a DM")
            return
        if not msg.content:
            print("Message content is empty")
            return
        if len(msg.content) < 3:
            print(f"Message too short: '{msg.content}'")
            return

[fast osprey]

🤨

[unreal owl]

Do I need to add them in every class or only the main one? Cuz if only in main I got that

[unreal owl]

?

[fast osprey]

What is this code trying to accomplish, this just does some prints

[unreal owl]

Yeah, dont wanna post the whole code... My question is about the content being empty nothing else, so I dont see a reason to flood this channel with unnecessary code

Fixed the problem tho

[fast osprey]

If you're unwilling to even describe what you're trying to do with peoples' messages, that's not a good look

[unreal owl]

Yeah... But my problem was that the content was empty and nothing else...

I dont get that point tbh

[wanton current]

!intents

[unkempt canyon]

Using intents in discord.py

Intents are a feature of Discord that tells the gateway exactly which events to send your bot. Various features of discord.py rely on having particular intents enabled, further detailed in its documentation. Since discord.py v2.0.0, it has become mandatory for developers to explicitly define the values of these intents in their code.

There are standard and privileged intents. To use privileged intents like Presences, Server Members, and Message Content, you have to first enable them in the Discord Developer Portal. In there, go to the Bot page of your application, scroll down to the Privileged Gateway Intents section, and enable the privileged intents that you need. Standard intents can be used without any changes in the developer portal.

Afterwards in your code, you need to set the intents you want to connect with in the bot's constructor using the intents keyword argument, like this:

from discord import Intents
from discord.ext import commands

# Enable all standard intents and message content
# (prefix commands generally require message content)
intents = Intents.default()
intents.message_content = True

bot = commands.Bot(command_prefix="!", intents=intents)

For more info about using intents, see discord.py's related guide, and for general information about them, see the Discord developer documentation on intents.

[fast osprey]

The point is that if you're asking a question for the purpose of building something you're not even willing to talk about, that's problematic

And people might want to be aware of that before helping

[dry kelp]

😂

[dry kelp]

please... dont do this.... 😭

[dry kelp]

let's not mention of all the early returns ....

please annotate your codes!

[dry kelp]

First of all, in that code you're doing LOTS of early returns, this could be simplified much more just by doing a if elif minigame yk? Besides, you're expecting the msg from on_message, PLEASE add the annotation to msg, as Message from your library, and since you're expecting to get the content, right, print(msg.content) should do the job, it's either you never loaded the Cog with this event, or you never Enabled the message_content intent on the bot, discord dev portal, and using it to wherever you define your bot in the baseclass, ALSO consider if you verified your bot, which can be quite easily done now, you need approval from discord to receive that intent with a valid reason + demonstration.

[quick gust]

they already fixed the problem

[last cradle]

how to determine if a user has a banner set and if they bave a custom emoji in there status and bio

[south shell]

user = await bot.fetch_user(user.id)
banner_url = user.banner.url

and for the bio you can't without acting liek a real user, and using user api

[fast osprey]

Which is against tos

[south shell]

Yes forgot to add this xD

Still dont know why they allow bot token to do request like this, and same for discord account doing bot stuff

[fast osprey]

they don't allow it

[slate swan]

Because otherwise you wouldn't be able to use discord? And there would be only bots?

@stone dust selfbot

[south shell]

Just vlocking bot token on user request, and blocking user token on bot request wont be that hard

[fast osprey]

They do

not sure what you're on about

[slate swan]

Bots and users share the same endpoints

There's not a separate API for that

There are restrictions where bots can't use endpoints like users, hence why the bio of users is not retrievable as a bot, the other way around wouldn't be possible, otherwise you, as a user, wouldn't be able to use discord at all

[dry kelp]

i've done a code that checks the user's status

it's such a pain in the ass, i aint even gonna lie

[last cradle]

hm

im jst tryna find a work around for displaying if user has nitro

[hearty basalt]

Some ways of checking are if a user has a custom server pic, if they have a banner, if they’re boosting the server (these r the ones i used)

[fast osprey]

discord won't tell this to you by design. Anything else mentioned is a guess

people can see if someone has nitro anyways already

[wanton current]

no!

i need a bot to tell me

[young dagger]

Guild avatar with member.guild_avatar
https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api.html?highlight=member guild_avatar#discord.Member.guild_avatar

You need to fetch user for the banner
https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api.html?highlight=user banner#discord.User.banner

Nitro boosting with premium_since
https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api.html?highlight=member premium_since#discord.Member.premium_since

[stark ingot]

You can buy standalone boosts tho
You can also just not set a banner/pfp even if you have nitro

[shadow vigil]

can you say that in clearer matter?

[stark ingot]

I can buy a boost and apply it to a server without having nitro
If I have nitro I can also choose not to set a custom banner or set a per server profile picture

[shadow vigil]

ah okay

[fast osprey]

Looking for people doing nitro things gives false positives and false negatives on whether or not they actually have nitro. It's not a particularly meaningful thing to worry about anyways

[timber dragon]

You can't buy boosts without nitro?

[slate swan]

there are single boost plans

[timber dragon]

Ah it says "Nitro + xxx" when you have nitro

[timber dragon]

Couple of reliable ways:

• animated avatar
• custom emoji in status
• has sent animated emoji or an emoji outside guild this month
• has sent sticker from outside guild this month

[quick gust]

Its not reliable if it's not guaranteed to not give false negatives/positives

Plus it's really not worth all that work to actually code something like that when

1. It can give false negatives
2. I can just open your profile to see if you have nitro

[timber dragon]

Reliable as in if the user has nitro, it should be true

And 2 isn't relevant here

[slate swan]

You can only get false negatives with that, not false positives, and you'll get more accurate results

[stark ingot]

The last 2 will result in false positives because you don't know if they sent it on the first day or last day of nitro

Also for number 2, does discord clear your status when nitro runs out?

[slate swan]

They should all be checked together

[quick gust]

I still don't see how that's gonna get you accurate results
People don't always have an animated profile picture or have an emoji in their bio even if they have nitro

You're only making guesses

[fast osprey]

It's a bit of a moot point, people really don't need to know this at all in the first place. They'll probably accept whatever guesses they need to because it makes their carbon copy user info command look cooler

[slate swan]

It never got said it'll be 100% accurate, you'll get some positives but as mentioned multiple times; you cannot be sure a user has nitro, these are ways to know if a user may have nitro.

[fast osprey]

Not sure what the use case is for "this user might have nitro, we just guessed" when someone can literally get a 100% answer in one click

[slate swan]

yeah, just like most commands in bots are useless; e.g. userinfo, ban, mute, kick, timeout/mute, etc.

People like to have them, we offer ways to deliver

[quick gust]

Yeah, if someone wants to put in that effort just to make a guessing system then I guess that's their choice 🤷

[drifting arrow]

Uhh

[unkempt trellis]

I have been learning python for the last two weeks and would like to learn to do discord bots using discord-y, would y’all recommend it and how could I start learning?

[drifting arrow]

I usually pair those commands up with other actions, is why I have them

Also it's great to force people to put a reason

[stark ingot]

Wolfy Was Banned Reason:sijgisuch to bad that this probably happens

[stark ingot]

Whatever you do please do not follow YouTube or online tutorials that are not specially recommended by the library you use. I went through the top 10 Google results for discord bots and not a single one was up to date. I personally do not recommend discord.py but I am biased. You can find a list of all of the major libraries here https://libs.advaith.io/#python

[dry kelp]

first tip, is decide what you want your bot to be, so you can properly choose libraries you want to use

first of all, if you wwnt a prefixable bot, use d.py, if you want an interaction bot having / commands, definitely choose disnake

[drifting arrow]

You can have slash commands in discord.py

[dry kelp]

you clearly dont know the differences between those 2, inform yourself, google is not too far

[sick birch]

you don’t have to be rude about it

[dry kelp]

sowwy, had same subject yesterday, without considering he is a different person

[wise mica]

A few of these are kinda just there for legacy reasons when they werent in discord natively. But having a ban/kick/mute command allow you to save logs is super useful when in a years time someone wants to dispute it, you don't have to go purely on a reason like "troll"

[dry kelp]

but it wasnt said in any rude ways

[sick birch]

disagree with choosing disnake for app commands though, discordpy will be fine for the most part

[wise mica]

But also ban command allows additional functionality like being able to ban someone not in the server

[dry kelp]

Then you clearly have no idea of the differences between those 2, and disnake is clearly much friendly with new users

why would someone waste time learning to do all that stupid tree as @app.tree groups and whatever they have

[sick birch]

again, I don’t know why you’re trying to be rude

[drifting arrow]

Everything can be solved by saying "Google it". But that's not the point of online forums like this. These promote discussion, feedback. perhaps people dont know what to google. Offer a guiding hand. Offer examples. Explain why.

[dry kelp]

had same subject yesterday, explaining why

It's a high visible difference between how d.py and disnake manage interaction commands.

[quick gust]

That's not a good explanation for why disnake is better for application commands?

[sick birch]

and yes, I am aware that the interface is simpler

[quick gust]

But if your goal is to learn, you shouldn't go for the simple things imo

[dry kelp]

On d.py you need to follow a logic tree as @app. etc. using disnake, has much easier ways to handle commands, in the attached screenshot is a code of mine, showing HOW SIMPLE the interaction commands can be used and managed

With a MUCH more friendly interface faced to d.py

[stark ingot]

If your goal is to make a discord bot while learning I would choose the simpler way if it accomplished the same thing

[sick birch]

when does disnake sync with discord?

[dry kelp]

Instant + automatic, no need to sync commands on your own.

[stark ingot]

^ by default, you can change it if you want

[dry kelp]

u js ctrl + r your discord lol

d.py requires you to sync commands

another -

[tender bobcat]

Sorry, can I not prefer manual sync? I don't like the argument of one interface is better than another than another when it's personal preference

[dry kelp]

There are varius option, where you can also sync commands just for a certain guild.

So they basically are life savers, and you expect to make an interaction bot, without syncing the commands you do, why even making a bot?

If you don't want your commands to be on discord, then don't code it 🤷‍♂️

[tender bobcat]

Well, I don't like how you say one thing is better than another, and insult the other who disagree

[sick birch]

yeah personally i prefer explicit by default but i guess for someone new making a discord bot they don’t really care about it

[dry kelp]

Insult? Please reply to the message where i've insulted anyone, thank you.

[stark ingot]

You can prefer all you want, but the user was asking for recommendations and likely has no preferences as of now. If they have strong preferences they can choose the library they want

[dry kelp]

I only came with an example why disnake it's better than d.py for interaction commands.

[sick birch]

it’s better according to you, subjectively. It depends on what the user is looking for in a framework

[dry kelp]

Clearly preferences, but don't say stuff as this:

disagree with choosing disnake for app commands though, discordpy will be fine for the most part

Because it can affect a beginner choice

[sick birch]

literally all of your messages come off as hostile

[dry kelp]

Ig it's my way of talking, they've mentioned insult, i have never insulted anyone.

[sick birch]

I recommend being far more cognizant of how your messages come off to people then

[dry kelp]

hostile != insult

[dry kelp]

I came on pc to explain differences, i was on phone.

[drifting arrow]

mans using big words ;-;

[dry kelp]

And this is basis sense, why wouldn't u want ur commands to auto sync??? That makes no sense for me.

[sick birch]

because some people want control and some people don’t care

[dry kelp]

Why wasting lines to sync them yourself 🤣

[sick birch]

it’s situational

[dry kelp]

You can control using disnake so easier...

various options

[stark ingot]

you can just disable auto sync ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dry kelp]

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[sick birch]

Yeah sure, you can configure it with discordpy too

most of these libraries have the same feature parity so it just comes down to preference