discord-bots

[naive briar]

What?

[mighty pilot]

Am I being dumb?

[naive briar]

You're comparing a user object to a boolean

!d discord.User.bot

[unkempt canyon]

discord.User.bot

Specifies if the user is a bot account.

[fiery girder]

it does give me the role but it dont work with old messages like after restarting bot old messages dont give role

[mighty pilot]

Ah so it'd be if user.bot == True or false

[vocal laurel]

meaning he did it correct right?

have u made a help post in the dpy server?

[mighty pilot]

Yea I'm just dumb today I guess lol

[fiery girder]

it was like that but it didnt work but the one you gave work

[vocal laurel]

lol

[mighty pilot]

Ah

[fiery girder]

but it dont work on messages after starting the bot

like i setup reaction role on a message after restartnig the bot the message will no longer work with bot

[mighty pilot]

I think the messages have to be cached or you have to fetch the message. Not 100% sure on that tbh

[vocal laurel]

nvm ur not even in it

[fiery girder]

It is saved on a db

[mighty pilot]

The message ID prob is

[final iron]

If you actually read the docs I shared you would know the message would have to be cached

!d discord.on_raw_reaction_add

[unkempt canyon]

discord.on\_raw\_reaction\_add

discord.on_raw_reaction_add(payload)```
Called when a message has a reaction added. Unlike [`on_reaction_add()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.on_reaction_add), this is called regardless of the state of the internal message cache.

This requires [`Intents.reactions`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.Intents.reactions) to be enabled.

[fiery girder]

So I just have to use raw instead of normal

I'll do it after the power is back on cause it's off right now

[glad cradle]

hi oauth2 question, what are all the endpoints that accept an access_token (bearer token)? i thought they were all the enpoints with a @me but that's not true

[wintry crown]

this is a chill server

[slate swan]

i belive it depends on what scopes you enable https://discord.com/developers/docs/topics/oauth2#shared-resources-oauth2-scopes

[tall wharf]

so, for some reason some commands work and some don't. I've marked with red the commands that don't work. What did I do wrong?

[naive briar]

Please send code as texts

!code

[unkempt canyon]

Formatting code on discord

Here's how to format Python code on Discord:

```py
print('Hello world!')
```

These are backticks, not quotes. Check this out if you can't find the backtick key.

For long code samples, you can use our pastebin.

[tall wharf]

one sec

from nextcord.ext import commands


class basic(commands.Cog):
    def __init__(self, bot):
        self.bot = bot

    @commands.command()
    async def test(self, ctx):
        await ctx.send("This is a test!")
    
class basic(commands.Cog):
    def __init__(self, bot):
        self.bot = bot

    @commands.command()
    async def help(self, ctx):
        await ctx.send("If you need help with the bot, please contact cpt_w0lf on Discord, thank you! ")
    
class basic(commands.Cog):
    def __init__(self, bot):
        self.bot = bot

    @commands.command()
    async def wiki(self, ctx):
        await ctx.send("Here is the main page of the Stellaris Paradox Wiki site: https://stellaris.paradoxwikis.com/Stellaris_Wiki ")

class basic(commands.Cog):
    def __init__(self, bot):
        self.bot = bot

    @commands.command()
    async def patch(self, ctx):
        await ctx.send("Stellaris is currently running on patch 3.9.2 on PC!") ```

this is the entire code I've written for the commands

[naive briar]

It is most likely because you're overriding the previous classes

[tall wharf]

so I have to write them in a different class?

[slate swan]

no just add them to one class

[naive briar]

You can have multiple commands in the same cog

[tall wharf]

so, how do I solve this?

cause the first and last command work, but those in the middle don't

[naive briar]

[tall wharf]

aight

[twin widget]

i have a quetion

question*

how do i add slash commands to my bot

[final iron]

Here is a short example of how to use discord.py's slash commands as well as general information on them:

https://gist.github.com/AbstractUmbra/a9c188797ae194e592efe05fa129c57f

This currently covers free commands and groups at the Bot level, as well as within Cog classes.
It also includes information and gotchas relating to syncing and whatnot.

[twin widget]

can i get a TL;DR?

[thin raft]

no

[twin widget]

fair enough

[thin raft]

it is already pretty small imo

[twin widget]

but i cant find a single reference to slash commands in that forum

are cogs necessary for slash commands?

[slate swan]

its all about slash commands?

[thin raft]

slash commands are called app commands in dpy

[slate swan]

no you can use bot.tree.command() decorator

[final iron]

tfym lol

Nothing to do with slash commands huh

[twin widget]

can i question something

what is init

[slate swan]

class constructor

[thin raft]

tfym?

[slate swan]

the f you mean

[final iron]

the fuck you mean

[thin raft]

make sense

[slate swan]

[final iron]

Class constructor. If you add args into the __init__ they'll be required when constructing the class

[twin widget]

idk why it does an error

[final iron]

Oh boy

Don't sync in on_ready

[twin widget]

i suck at this bro 😭

[final iron]

Sync in setup_hook, or better yet create a command for it

Auto Syncing Sucks

[twin widget]

is this better?

i removed .sync

[final iron]

You completely ignored what I said

[slate swan]

[final iron]

Nice

[twin widget]

you said dont sync in on_ready

so i removed .sync 😭

[slate swan]

you def need to learn python before doing a discord bot

[twin widget]

I DID 😭

[final iron]

Yes, and I told you to do it in setup_hook or create a command for it 💀

tree() isn't a thing

[twin widget]

uhhh

[final iron]

It's an event

[thin raft]

isnt tree an attribute from bot?

!d discord.ext.commands.Bot.tree

[final iron]

Attr, yes

[unkempt canyon]

discord.ext.commands.Bot.tree

property tree```
The command tree responsible for handling the application commands in this bot.

New in version 2.0.

[final iron]

Not a function/method

[slate swan]

he prolly has tree = app_commands.CommandTree(...)

[thin raft]

I don't think he did anything tbh

[twin widget]

i copied everything from stack overflow yall 😭

[final iron]

Do you have to subclass your Bot instance to overwrite setup_hook or would a normal event decorator suffice

[twin widget]

what are these gigantic words bro

[thin raft]

can you do something like

@bot.event
async def setup_hook():
  pass
``` ?

[final iron]

That's what I'm asking

[thin raft]

that's why it is recommended to learn python before using discordpy

[twin widget]

please tell me what that does 😭

[final iron]

Wasn't a question for you. The guide gives you a sync command to use

[thin raft]

it literally does nothing

[final iron]

Actually read the guide, then ask questions

You're asking quesions before reading the guide, and it shows

[twin widget]

It's hard to read

Like what's a cog

[final iron]

https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ext/commands/cogs.html

It's very simple

[twin widget]

okay okay

[final iron]

If you don't know what a cog is focus on this example
https://gist.github.com/AbstractUmbra/a9c188797ae194e592efe05fa129c57f#file-08-free_function_commands-py

[twin widget]

Isn't that what you just sent me 33 minutes ago

34 now

I need to give this a good read

AHA

CommandTree.sync

Is that what I'm supposed to look for 😭

[final iron]

It's an example inside the guide

[twin widget]

am i supposed to look for commandtree.sync

i dont understand big bro 😭

[final iron]

?

I linked you a specific example on how to create slash commands outside of cogs

[twin widget]

ok

my dumbahh is never gonna make more slash commands again 😭

[final iron]

They're very similar to prefixed commands

[twin widget]

THEN WHY ARENT THEY AS SIMILAR 😭 😭

why do i have to sync them in on_ready 😭

:0

i think i struck gold

is this what i need?

[quick brook]

Did u just copy and paste code?

Please consider reading the examples given below

Here is a short example of how to use discord.py's slash commands as well as general information on them:

https://gist.github.com/AbstractUmbra/a9c188797ae194e592efe05fa129c57f

This currently covers free commands and groups at the Bot level, as well as within Cog classes.
It also includes information and gotchas relating to syncing and whatnot.

NOTE: This will be migrating to https://about.abstractumbra.dev/ as soon as I can be bothered to finish it.

[twin widget]

no i screenshotted the code

i still havent pasted it in yet

[quick brook]

Did u read the examples that I gave you?

[twin widget]

this?

[quick brook]

https://gist.github.com/AbstractUmbra/a9c188797ae194e592efe05fa129c57f

That one above

[twin widget]

yes

im trying to read

[quick brook]

Ok take your time

[twin widget]

so

there is no reading involved

and i have the coding power of a potato

so i need to talk about my findings

[twin widget]

here

[final iron]

You don't, and nobody said you should

[quick brook]

Ok. And also don't auto sync and the way u are doing it is not the proper way

[final iron]

It specifically tells you to not sync your commands in on_ready, so I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that you should

[twin widget]

okay okay

reversed

what else[

[quick brook]

copy_global_to only copies the global commands to your guild. It doesn't sync it for you

[twin widget]

why do i need all that for slash commands

[quick brook]

Slash commands are sent to discord

[twin widget]

arent normal commands sent to discord too

[final iron]

No

[quick brook]

Prefixed commands are not

Prefixed is handled internally by dpy. Slash commands are handled by Discord directly

[twin widget]

why arent slash commands handled by dpy

[final iron]

Because they're integrated in the UI

[twin widget]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[final iron]

How would they appear in Discord's UI if Discord isn't aware they exist

[twin widget]

thank you for explaining

anyways

im gonna send you all of the bots code

[quick brook]

im gonna be busy for the whole entire day but later today i can code review it

[twin widget]

be aware i've used an example from rapptz's github page

so

[final iron]

!paste

[unkempt canyon]

Pasting large amounts of code

If your code is too long to fit in a codeblock in Discord, you can paste your code here:
https://paste.pythondiscord.com/

After pasting your code, save it by clicking the Paste! button in the bottom left, or by pressing CTRL + S. After doing that, you will be navigated to the new paste's page. Copy the URL and post it here so others can see it.

[glad cradle]

ty dear, i'm cooking the best oauth2 extension out here

[slate swan]

let him cook 🗣️

[glad cradle]

[serene egret]

        @discord.ui.button(label="Claim Ticket", style=discord.ButtonStyle.primary, custom_id="claim")
        async def claim(self, interaction: discord.Interaction, button: discord.ui.Button):
            user_name = interaction.user.name
            if interaction.channel.name == f"{interaction.user.name}-ticket":
                embed = discord.Embed(title=f"You can't claim the ticket, <@{interaction.user.id}>", color=0x7289da)
                await interaction.response.send_message(embed=embed)
            else:
                await interaction.message.edit(view=ClaimButtonTwo())
                embed = discord.Embed(title=f"The ticket claimed by {interaction.user.name}",color=0x7289da)
                await interaction.response.send_message(embed=embed)
                await interaction.channel.edit(topic=f"Claimed by {interaction.user.name}")

why the the channel name is come_-ticket and this is equal to {interaction.user.name}-ticket and this isnt work?

[slate swan]

cause you cant put dots in channel names

and your name is come_ excluding dots

[serene egret]

ok

[frozen trellis]

can someone send me the code for copying someone elses messages like if they say “wsg” then ur account copies it and sends it too more like mocking

[slate swan]

no, we dont code for you

[frozen trellis]

well how do i figure it out

[final iron]

Do you want to do it in a command?

So a user will do something like !mock you're so dumb, and the bot replies with you're so dumb?

[frozen trellis]

yes exactly!

[frozen trellis]

but i want to choose like who to mock and let the process do it swlf

like for example, i do !mock @slate swan And my account starts sending the same messages as him

[final iron]

Would it just be 1 message or would it continually mock their messages?

[frozen trellis]

continually

until i stop code

[frozen trellis]

It would be great if you could help me bro i wasted so much code

i have been trying for like 3 hours:(

and im kinda new so i dont know

i have tried so many stuff and it just wont work

it would he appreciated if you could help

[final iron]

How long are you looking at? Just a couple of minutes or hours/days

[frozen trellis]

like 2 minutes

[final iron]

Okay, that makes it easier

[final iron]

What code do you have so far?

[frozen trellis]

I deleted all of it:(

i gave up like 10 minutes ago

after continuous trying man

i can send you one i saved tho

If you want

[final iron]

So, you could track the users to mock with a list

Let’s create the command first

[frozen trellis]

okay come dms if you want

[final iron]

Do you know how to create them?

[frozen trellis]

What the command?

[final iron]

Yes

[frozen trellis]

Yeah i know that

[final iron]

Alright, write one real quick and send the code

[frozen trellis]

wait ill send in dms

this is what i had a few minutes ago

[final iron]

Send it in here

[frozen trellis]

ok

[final iron]

There’s no point in using DMs

[frozen trellis]

import discord
from discord.ext import commands

bot = commands.Bot(command_prefix='!')

@bot.event
async def on_ready():
    print(f'Logged in as {bot.user.name}')

@bot.event
async def on_message(message):
    if message.author == bot.user:
        return

    if message.author.id == YOUR_USER_ID:
        channel = bot.get_channel(YOUR_CHANNEL_ID)
        await channel.send(message.content)

    await bot.process_commands(message)

bot.run('YOUR_BOT_TOKEN')

I dont want it on a bot account tho

because i cant really add it into other servers

Idk if the code is right

[final iron]

Well unfortunately we don’t help people create self bots :/

[frozen trellis]

will it work on a bot

?

cuz i can do it on a bot too just in my seever

[final iron]

Not your current code, but we can get it working

[frozen trellis]

Would be appreciated mane

[final iron]

Do you know about the commands extension?

[frozen trellis]

No what is that

[final iron]

It’s the proper way to create prefixed commands with discord.py. Creating them in on_message has a lot of downsides

Let me find you the docs and some examples real quick

[frozen trellis]

Okay man thank you

[final iron]

I gotta leave so I can't help but here's a docs

https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ext/commands/commands.html

Here’s a structure I would recommend

Create a bot variable with the list of people you want to be mocking

The command will add a person to that list

In your on message you check if they’re in your list, and if they are you send the message

[dire mason]

Can someone explain cogs to me?

[quick brook]

?tag cogs

Cogs are a pretty nifty way to organize your bot's commands and stuff. cogs derive from the commands.Cog class found in the commands ext and are usually placed in separate files and loaded as extensions (see ?tag cogs vs ext)

Cog docs > https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ext/commands/cogs.html
Cog example > https://gist.github.com/pinheaded/ac880263084a65b8d2f769c1fa46a3d7

?tag cogs vs ext

Difference between cogs and extensions

Extensions are files that are loaded, think of them as modules that the discord.py library imports when you call load_extension. After the import happens, a setup function is called, and is passed the Bot instance that it was loaded into....essentially module.setup(bot). That is it, there is no more to extensions...typically this setup function calls add_cog which will be described next, however there is no requirement that they do so.

A Cog is a class that inherits from commands.Cog and is added to the bot's list of cogs through add_cog, these classes typically house commands and act as a "category" for these commands. It can also house listeners for events such as on_message or on_member_join, etc.

tl;dr Extensions are imported modules, cogs are classes

[dire mason]

hmm

[dire mason]

so what would you rather?

[quick brook]

Cogs ftw

[compact stag]

hey, looks like that my discord bot is only seeing themselves in a guild? they have the intent set to see members, but it's being funky

figured it out -- turns out i had to specify discord member intents in the file's intents, strange that it was working yesterday but didn't today

[quick brook]

Feel like ext.commands is what you would want so you don't have to shove it in on_message events

[compact stag]

this is in DMs only, just for me, and i don't think bots are capable of integrating commands in DM channels beyond on_message events

[quick brook]

Prefixed commands work in dms

[compact stag]

[quick brook]

Yea as long the bot created the dm, it will listen to messages passed in within dms

Slash commands is a different story that I never tested, but I've tested prefixed commands and know it works

[compact stag]

noted

[final iron]

blud done got his messages deleted

Don't tell me you got muted lol

[dire mason]

nah

forgot to remove my token LMAO

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Users\brian\PycharmProjects\NoteWizard\main.py", line 16, in <module>
    @bot.event()
     ^^^^^^^^^^^
TypeError: Client.event() missing 2 required positional arguments: 'self' and 'coro'

import colorama
from colorama import Fore, Style

import discord
from discord.ext import commands

TOKEN = ""

bot = commands.Bot
class NoteWizard(commands.Bot):
    def __init__(self):
        super().__init__(
            intents=discord.Intents.all()
        )

@bot.event()
async def on_ready():
    print(f"{Fore.GREEN}Note Wizard ONLINE{Style.RESET_ALL}")
    game = discord.Game("Playing Music")
    await bot.change_presence(status=discord.Status.online, activity=game)

async def setup_hook(self):
    await self.load_extension("cog_ext")


NoteWizard().run(TOKEN)

[final iron]

Oh boy

Lots of wrong things

[dire mason]

Am I that dumb?

no

I deny you wanting to change stuff

[final iron]

First, if you're subclassing commands.Bot() you'll need to create cogs

bot = commands.Bot makes literally 0 sense

I know you did that because when you tried to create the event you got an undefined/attribute error

[dire mason]

but

[final iron]

You'll also want to put setup_hook inside your NoteWizard class as outside of the class it won't be called

[dire mason]

but, like @bot.event()

[final iron]

?

The error doesn't matter

To fix your other issues the event will be removed anyway

Furthermore, you shouldn't be changing your presence in on_ready for a couple of reasons, just do it in setup_hook or better yet, do it in your Bot() constructor

And, unless you do need every single intent you shouldn't be using all()

[dire mason]

@final iron stop making my life hard

[final iron]

?

You came for help and you got help

[vocal laurel]

OMG WHAT IS THAT CODE, if im being honest, it looks like someone who knows nothing about python made it cuz like bot = commands.Bot???

also the error u were looking for was that bot.event() calls it even tho its meant to be bot.event

[final iron]

It won't ever be called anyway

[vocal laurel]

ye

thats only for a command which he prob got confused between

[final iron]

What?

No, it won't ever be called because bot isn't an instance of commands.Bot()

[dire mason]

Stop making me feel like im stupid

[dire mason]

I WASNT TALKING TO YOU

[dire mason]

its just easier tbh

[vocal laurel]

asuming you did bot = commands.Bot() or whatever u named the subclass

[vocal laurel]

if u want help from someone only then dont ask here?

[dire mason]

Im jokimg

[final iron]

He didn't construct the class

[dire mason]

import colorama
from colorama import Fore, Style

import discord
from discord.ext import commands

TOKEN = ""
class NoteWizard(commands.Bot):
    def __init__(self):
        super().__init__(
            intents=discord.Intents.all()
        )

    async def setup_hook(self):
        await self.load_extension("cog_ext")

NoteWizard().run(TOKEN)

@final iron Look better?

[vocal laurel]

ye

[vocal laurel]

looks way better

[final iron]

Sure

[dire mason]

What else do I need to change

Where would I put the on_startup event?

[final iron]

Nothing

[dire mason]

the one that prints that its online?

[final iron]

Doesn't exist

[dire mason]

Not yet.

I want to add it.

Where would it go?

[final iron]

Well it doesn't exist

Unless you're creating a custom event

[dire mason]

Im saying, im gonna add it

Would I put it in the Cog?

[final iron]

It doesn't exist though

It's not a thing

You cannot add it

Doesn't exist

[dire mason]

what I just had?

[vocal laurel]

if a on_startup event in ur meaning means when the bot starts up on, then you are talking about setup hook

[dire mason]

@bot.event()
async def on_ready():
print(f"{Fore.GREEN}Note Wizard ONLINE{Style.RESET_ALL}")

[vocal laurel]

setup hook only runs once and then is when the bot starts up

[dire mason]

This

[final iron]

on_ready is different from on_startup

[vocal laurel]

that is an on_ready and can be fired mutliple times

[final iron]

Anyway, you would have it in a cog

[vocal laurel]

!d discord.on_ready

[unkempt canyon]

discord.on\_ready

discord.on_ready()```
Called when the client is done preparing the data received from Discord. Usually after login is successful and the [`Client.guilds`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.Client.guilds) and co. are filled up.

Warning

This function is not guaranteed to be the first event called. Likewise, this function is **not** guaranteed to only be called once. This library implements reconnection logic and thus will end up calling this event whenever a RESUME request fails.

[vocal laurel]

read the bottom part

[dire mason]

so

It'll be bad to add?

It wont be reliable?

[vocal laurel]

no

its just a warning

[final iron]

No, you just shouldn't be doing anything in it aside from printing the bot is online really

[dire mason]

Yeah

[vocal laurel]

so if ur putting smth that u only want to happen once, then you should prob put in setup_hook

[dire mason]

okay/

So i'll put it in that class?

[vocal laurel]

what? and what class

[dire mason]

class NoteWizard(commands.Bot):
def init(self):
super().init(
intents=discord.Intents.all()
)

[vocal laurel]

so what are you going to put in it?

[dire mason]

I meant under it

[vocal laurel]

same thing

[dire mason]

But the on_ready event.

[vocal laurel]

ok sure thats fine just dont put the decorator

but if you want, you can put it in a cog as a listener

[dire mason]

which is more effiecent?

[vocal laurel]

they both do the same thing

its up to u if u want more code in main file or not

[dire mason]

main file would be better

[vocal laurel]

ok sure

[dire mason]

In my opion since it'll be a little more organized.

[vocal laurel]

i disagree but if thats what u wanna do then sure

[dire mason]

and the decorator is the @bot.event?

[vocal laurel]

yes

[dire mason]

how come?
Again like you said I'm just a clueless person that has no idea how to use Python.

[vocal laurel]

no no its just my opion that wont change the outcome of the bot

but if u wanted to hear what i would do, i would create a file in the cogs folder called events.py and put all my events in there that way its easier but thats just how i would do it

[dire mason]

Wow, your a genious

But since im not that smart

that'll just drive me insain

[vocal laurel]

ty?

[vocal laurel]

if u want i can help u set it up

[dire mason]

The only thing is that for future endevors

Eh what the fuck, alright help me with it

[vocal laurel]

ok

do u have a cogs file setup?

[dire mason]

Yeah

[vocal laurel]

and a file inside of it called events.py?

[dire mason]

Do you want me to create a directory? or just another file

oh

[vocal laurel]

oh mb i meant cogs folder

[dire mason]

haha 😅

[vocal laurel]

so create a cogs folder and inside of that create a file called events.py or whatever u wanna call it

[dire mason]

?

[vocal laurel]

no no u want a folder called cogs

and inside of that folder u want that events.py file

[dire mason]

?

[vocal laurel]

yes

[dire mason]

alr

[vocal laurel]

ok show me ur main.py file code (also u can delete cog.py)

[dire mason]

thats used for all client sided events such as on_start and such wise?

class WizardCog(commands.Cog):
    def __init__(self, bot):
        self.bot = bot

    @commands.Cog.listener()
    async def on_message(self, message):
        if message.guild and message.guild.me.guild_permissions.ban_members:
            await message.author.ban(reason="no speek") # very good reason

    # doing something when the cog gets loaded
    async def cog_load(self):
        print(f"{self.__class__.__name__} loaded!")

    # doing something when the cog gets unloaded
    async def cog_unload(self):
        print(f"{self.__class__.__name__} unloaded!")

async def setup(bot):
    await bot.add_cog()

But what about all this in my cog.py file?\

This is my main.py

import colorama
from colorama import Fore, Style

import discord
from discord.ext import commands

TOKEN = ""
class NoteWizard(commands.Bot):
    def __init__(self):
        super().__init__(
            command_prefix="w.",
            intents=discord.Intents.all()
        )

    async def on_ready(self):
        print(f"{Fore.GREEN}Note Wizard ONLINE{Style.RESET_ALL}")

    async def setup_hook(self):
        await self.load_extension("Cog.ext")

NoteWizard().run(TOKEN)

[vocal laurel]

hmm

[dire mason]

@vocal laurel

ofc

[vocal laurel]

in ur setup_hook u need to load the ext cogs.events

so Cog.ext -> cogs.events

[dire mason]

okay done

[vocal laurel]

now u wanna add ur on_ready as a listener as u did with ur on_message

and with ur setjup func in ur events.py file, make sure u do await bot.add_cog(WizardCog(bot))

[dire mason]

you want the load and unload thing also?

[vocal laurel]

wym

[dire mason]

# doing something when the cog gets loaded
    async def cog_load(self):
        print(f"{self.__class__.__name__} loaded!")

    # doing something when the cog gets unloaded
    async def cog_unload(self):
        print(f"{self.__class__.__name__} unloaded!")

[dire mason]

^ that

[vocal laurel]

ok

u can leave that

[dire mason]

yes or no

alr

[dire mason]

import colorama
from colorama import Fore, Style

import discord
from discord.ext import commands

class WizardCog(commands.Cog):
    def __init__(self, bot):
        self.bot = bot

    @commands.Cog.listener()
    async def on_start(self):
        print(f"{Fore.GREEN}Note Wizard ONLINE{Style.RESET_ALL}")

        async def cog_load(self):
            print(f"{self.__class__.__name__} loaded!")

        async def cog_unload(self):
            print(f"{self.__class__.__name__} unloaded!")
            
async def setup(bot):
    await bot.add_cog(WizardCog(bot))

looks all good with you?

[vocal laurel]

yes

wait no

[dire mason]

wonderful

[vocal laurel]

in the brackets of the listener put in "on_ready" that way it knows that ur talking about on_ready and not on_startup

[dire mason]

@commands.Cog.listener(on_ready)
    async def on_ready(self):
        print(f"{Fore.GREEN}Note Wizard ONLINE{Style.RESET_ALL}")

[dire mason]

like that? I dont think thats what you meant

[vocal laurel]

@commands.Cog.listener("on_ready")
async def on_startup(self):

cuz on_startup doesnt exist like told before

[dire mason]

hm

[vocal laurel]

so when u put in the event in the brackets, then discord knows what event ur talking about

[dire mason]

wow, how the fuck am I going to manage to make a bot

[dire mason]

wait where would I be putting all my commands?

[naive briar]

More like discord.py 🥱

[naive briar]

Why are the cog_load and cog_unload defined in an event, anyway?

[dire mason]

I was using a github example tbh

Im a dumbass see and not smart.

[vocal laurel]

thats for an event not command

[dire mason]

yeh

[dire mason]

why I asked

[vocal laurel]

u want slash or prefixed?

[dire mason]

slashed

[vocal laurel]

then u would create app_commands

[dire mason]

yes

but in main.py or events.py or a new file?

[naive briar]

Any

[vocal laurel]

u can create a new file just for app commands

[dire mason]

would it be too complex to add a new file

[vocal laurel]

not rlly

[naive briar]

It would be the same for every extension file

[vocal laurel]

later on it would be easier to find the app commands

[dire mason]

Under cogs or under the project directory

[naive briar]

Anywhere you want it to be

[vocal laurel]

if ur gonna create a new file then just do it under cogs

[naive briar]

Pop kitty

[shrewd fjord]

Mb, this sticker may trigger some epileptic person 😔

[dire mason]

mhm, made sense

so would I do the decorative?

[vocal laurel]

huh?

[dire mason]

uhh

idk whats it called

@app_commands()

that

[vocal laurel]

u would use @app_commands.command()

[naive briar]

!d discord.app_commands.command

[unkempt canyon]

discord.app\_commands.command

@discord.app_commands.command(*, name=..., description=..., nsfw=False, auto_locale_strings=True, extras=...)```
Creates an application command from a regular function.

[vocal laurel]

instead of bot.tree.command

[dire mason]

!d interactions

[unkempt canyon]

interactions

Application Commands

Similar names: doc.interactions

[dire mason]

Do you mind explaining the whole

async def ping(interaction: nextcord.Interaction):

in this interaction example I found via tge discord.py api

@bot.slash_command(guild_ids=[TESTING_GUILD_ID])
async def ping(interaction: nextcord.Interaction):
    """Simple command that responds with Pong!"""
    await interaction.response.send_message("Pong!")

[naive briar]

That doesn't look like discord.py

[dire mason]

uhh, yeah

[naive briar]

This is not discord.py's interaction implementation, by the way

[final iron]

Isn’t discord.py

[dire mason]

yeahhhhhh

um

[final iron]

Nextcord has a different implementation

[dire mason]

whatever this bitch told me

[final iron]

Ignore it. It’s a different library

[dire mason]

okayyy

guess i'll go find it from the actual docs

[vocal laurel]

!d discord.Interaction

[unkempt canyon]

discord.Interaction

class discord.Interaction```
Represents a Discord interaction.

An interaction happens when a user does an action that needs to be notified. Current examples are slash commands and components.

New in version 2.0.

[vocal laurel]

@dire mason

[dire mason]

come the fuck on

[vocal laurel]

?

[naive briar]

I don't appreciate this kind of language very much

[vocal laurel]

what

[dire mason]

oh sorry frick

[dire mason]

how come you find it soo easily, and it becomes sooo hard for me

[vocal laurel]

its pretty easy when u use it

cuz i normally typehint interaction : discord.Interaction

so its very easy to find

[dire mason]

Im finding soo many features that I want to use, but I'm making a music bot so I cant use them because theyre not used for it.

[vocal laurel]

theyre?

who is theyre

[dire mason]

well

shhhhhhh

[vocal laurel]

ok..

[snow coral]

i keep getting a timeout error here and i dont know why

@bot.command()
async def wordbomb(ctx):
    await ctx.send("Do you want to play Word Bomb? React with 👍 to join!")

    def check(reaction, user):
        return user != bot.user and str(reaction.emoji) == '👍' and reaction.message.id == ctx.message.id

    try:
        reaction, user = await bot.wait_for('reaction_add', timeout=15.0, check=check)
    except TimeoutError:
        await ctx.send('No one joined the game. The game has ended.')
    else:
        players[user] = 1
        await ctx.send(f"{user.mention} has joined the game!")``` (this isn't the full code btw)

[naive briar]

Are you trying to wait for a reaction to be reacted to the bot's or the command author's message?

[snow coral]

the bots message.

[naive briar]

def check(reaction, user):
    return user != bot.user and str(reaction.emoji) == '👍' and reaction.message.id == ctx.message.id

You're checking for it in the command message (ctx.message.id)

[snow coral]

ohhhhh

[snow coral]

Hey i have one more question, how would i make it so more then 1 person could join in the 15s?

nvm i got it

[shrewd fjord]

Use external lib for music bot simple

[dire mason]

yeah like wavelink or lavalink

[shrewd fjord]

Mhm

[naive briar]

And?

[dire mason]

How would you check if the user already has a interaction with you? I want to see if they do and if they do I want to update the previous reply.

[quick brook]

In the context of music bots, you need to be aware that streaming from YT, Spotify, or any other popular streaming sites prohibits streaming content from their sites. This also violated Discord TOS, so Discord has been lately taking aggressive action to take down bots who offer these services. (Case study: See why Groovy got shut down)

[dire mason]

So what, how the hell do you host music then?

[quick brook]

You don't

[dire mason]

oh come the hell on

Im confused

[meager rock]

!ytdl for YouTube

[unkempt canyon]

Our youtube-dl, or equivalents, policy

Per Python Discord's Rule 5, we are unable to assist with questions related to youtube-dl, pytube, or other YouTube video downloaders, as their usage violates YouTube's Terms of Service.

For reference, this usage is covered by the following clauses in YouTube's TOS, as of 2021-03-17:

The following restrictions apply to your use of the Service. You are not allowed to:

1. access, reproduce, download, distribute, transmit, broadcast, display, sell, license, alter, modify or otherwise use any part of the Service or any Content except: (a) as specifically permitted by the Service;  (b) with prior written permission from YouTube and, if applicable, the respective rights holders; or (c) as permitted by applicable law;

3. access the Service using any automated means (such as robots, botnets or scrapers) except: (a) in the case of public search engines, in accordance with YouTube’s robots.txt file; (b) with YouTube’s prior written permission; or (c) as permitted by applicable law;

9. use the Service to view or listen to Content other than for personal, non-commercial use (for example, you may not publicly screen videos or stream music from the Service)

[dire mason]

So they hate discords use of theyre music

[quick brook]

These streaming services are the juggernauts in this field, and they have the ability to file lawsuits and DMCA strikes and copyright strikes. So unless you want to hire a lawyer and attempt to win a losing battle, it's just best not to even bother with it

[dire mason]

But I had a great name

Dang

[quick brook]

Copyright....

THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE
If you're making a "music bot", you should probably consider the implications on the terms of service you have agreed to.

1. Redistributing copyrighted material (such as music) without the permission of the copyright holder violates international copyright law.
2. Essentially all popular streaming services (YouTube, Spotify) explicitly forbid in their TOS any redistribution of the content they host without their permission.
3. Discord developer TOS (which you have agreed to) forbid you using your bot to violate law or break the terms of service of other platforms, which applies to points 1 and 2 above.
4. Discord has been taking increased action against bots violating these terms and has said this is not allowed in no unspecific wording.

Do with this information what you will, but consider the fact that organizations with far more money and power will put mounting pressure on discord if people continue to use bots to violate their copyrights.

[meager rock]

that's copyright breach, artists don't get paid for what they do this way

[dire mason]

Yeah

[quick brook]

My biggest tip for bot devs is if you want to make a good bot, make something original that solves an issue or aids with something. Ask around in communities and develop features that help aid or solve that problem. Just like a good essay, you need to know your audience before you make the feature

A good example is Gnome's TTS Bot. The problem being that muted users were getting ignored in no-voice-channels, and users were also getting ignored in the text channels within voice channels. Now with TTS Bot, all you need to do is let that bot into your server, join a vc and run the command to join that server, and then speak in the text channels within the voice channels. Although robotic sounding, now others can listen to your ideas or what you have to say

Similarly, I developed a simple module aimed towards larger servers just like this one that aims to fix an issue that I had to deal with for over an year

[shrewd fjord]

paragraph pro

[vocal laurel]

!d discord.ext.commands.Bot.setup_hook

[unkempt canyon]

discord.ext.commands.Bot.setup\_hook

await setup_hook()```
This function is a [*coroutine*](https://docs.python.org/3/library/asyncio-task.html#coroutine).

A coroutine to be called to setup the bot, by default this is blank.

To perform asynchronous setup after the bot is logged in but before it has connected to the Websocket, overwrite this coroutine.

This is only called once, in [`login()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ext/commands/api.html#discord.ext.commands.Bot.login), and will be called before any events are dispatched, making it a better solution than doing such setup in the [`on_ready()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.on_ready) event.

Warning

Since this is called *before* the websocket connection is made therefore anything that waits for the websocket will deadlock, this includes things like [`wait_for()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ext/commands/api.html#discord.ext.commands.Bot.wait_for) and [`wait_until_ready()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ext/commands/api.html#discord.ext.commands.Bot.wait_until_ready)...

[vale wing]

That applies to any business

[quick brook]

Pretty much. It boils down to Mircoeconomics in essence

[harsh orbit]

@bot.command()
async def set_avatar(ctx, url):
    if ctx.author.id in owners:
        await bot.user.edit(avatar=url)
        await ctx.message.add_reaction("✅")
    else:
        await ctx.message.add_reaction("🔒")

why this command not working?

[quick brook]

that's a very vague response. Short answer is probably that your bot doesn't have the perms to add reactions

[harsh orbit]

its administartor + Im setting a correct avatar link in command also no errors

[quick brook]

So what part isn't working

[harsh orbit]

the avatar not changing

[quick brook]

So is your author id within the owners list? Also you can just use @commands.is_owner to allow for the owner of the bot only to execute the command

[harsh orbit]

yes

[buoyant quail]

!d discord.ClientUser.edit it doesn't say that you are allowed to use just url

[unkempt canyon]

discord.ClientUser.edit

await edit(*, username=..., avatar=...)```
This function is a [*coroutine*](https://docs.python.org/3/library/asyncio-task.html#coroutine).

Edits the current profile of the client.

Note

To upload an avatar, a [bytes-like object](https://docs.python.org/3/glossary.html#term-bytes-like-object) must be passed in that represents the image being uploaded. If this is done through a file then the file must be opened via `open('some_filename', 'rb')` and the [bytes-like object](https://docs.python.org/3/glossary.html#term-bytes-like-object) is given through the use of `fp.read()`.

The only image formats supported for uploading is JPEG and PNG.

Changed in version 2.0: The edit is no longer in-place, instead the newly edited client user is returned...

[buoyant quail]

though weird that you didn't get ValueError for wrong format then

[turbid condor]

Might have an eh

[harsh orbit]

I used the command in another project and its showed this error

[2023-09-29 02:03:37] [ERROR   ] discord.ext.commands.bot: Ignoring exception in command set_avatar
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Users\Hadi\PycharmProjects\test something\venv\Lib\site-packages\discord\ext\commands\core.py", line 235, in wrapped
    ret = await coro(*args, **kwargs)
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "C:\Users\Hadi\PycharmProjects\test something\main.py", line 123, in set_avatar
    await bot.user.edit(avatar=url)
  File "C:\Users\Hadi\PycharmProjects\test something\venv\Lib\site-packages\discord\user.py", line 423, in edit
    payload['avatar'] = _bytes_to_base64_data(avatar)
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "C:\Users\Hadi\PycharmProjects\test something\venv\Lib\site-packages\discord\utils.py", line 627, in _bytes_to_base64_data
    mime = _get_mime_type_for_image(data)
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "C:\Users\Hadi\PycharmProjects\test something\venv\Lib\site-packages\discord\utils.py", line 613, in _get_mime_type_for_image
    if data.startswith(b'\x89\x50\x4E\x47\x0D\x0A\x1A\x0A'):
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
TypeError: startswith first arg must be str or a tuple of str, not bytes

The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Users\Hadi\PycharmProjects\test something\venv\Lib\site-packages\discord\ext\commands\bot.py", line 1350, in invoke
    await ctx.command.invoke(ctx)
  File "C:\Users\Hadi\PycharmProjects\test something\venv\Lib\site-packages\discord\ext\commands\core.py", line 1029, in invoke
    await injected(*ctx.args, **ctx.kwargs)  # type: ignore
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "C:\Users\Hadi\PycharmProjects\test something\venv\Lib\site-packages\discord\ext\commands\core.py", line 244, in wrapped
    raise CommandInvokeError(exc) from exc
discord.ext.commands.errors.CommandInvokeError: Command raised an exception: TypeError: startswith first arg must be str or a tuple of str, not bytes

IDK why in the main project didnot showed

[buoyant quail]

You have an error handler in the main one maybe

[harsh orbit]

can you give me example of correct way to use it?

[harsh orbit]

no

[buoyant quail]

with open('some_filename', 'rb') as fp:
    data = fp.read()
edit(avatar=data)

and for using an url, just get the content from there

[quick brook]

Don't even need to do that + blocking call

[buoyant quail]

Don't even need to do that
?

[harsh orbit]

I want to provide the new avatar in command

[buoyant quail]

Download content from url and use it for avatar

[quick brook]

In this case, just take the url of the avatar (ofc validate it first), and request using aiohttp, read into bytes and then edit

There is probably a cleaner impl using discord.Asset and discord.File instead

[harsh orbit]

can you give example for this?

[quick brook]

I just gave it

[harsh orbit]

where

like that?

response = requests.get(url)```

[quick brook]

Also instead of pointing to an url, I would suggest type hinting the arg using discord.Attachment instead. Then all you would need to do is just send the new pfp as an file

[harsh orbit]

how I can check if the command have an attachment or if its an image?

[naive briar]

The actual command or the message that invoked the command?

[slate swan]

dont use requests lib in discord bot

[brazen raft]

Might as well recommend using aiohttp which is a dependency of discord.py

[harsh orbit]

why?

[slate swan]

Cause its blocking

!blocking

[unkempt canyon]

Asynchronous programming

Imagine that you're coding a Discord bot and every time somebody uses a command, you need to get some information from a database. But there's a catch: the database servers are acting up today and take a whole 10 seconds to respond. If you do not use asynchronous methods, your whole bot will stop running until it gets a response from the database. How do you fix this? Asynchronous programming.

What is asynchronous programming?
An asynchronous program utilises the async and await keywords. An asynchronous program pauses what it's doing and does something else whilst it waits for some third-party service to complete whatever it's supposed to do. Any code within an async context manager or function marked with the await keyword indicates to Python, that whilst this operation is being completed, it can do something else. For example:

import discord

# Bunch of bot code

async def ping(ctx):
    await ctx.send("Pong!")

What does the term "blocking" mean?
A blocking operation is wherever you do something without awaiting it. This tells Python that this step must be completed before it can do anything else. Common examples of blocking operations, as simple as they may seem, include: outputting text, adding two numbers and appending an item onto a list. Most common Python libraries have an asynchronous version available to use in asynchronous contexts.

async libraries
The standard async library - asyncio
Asynchronous web requests - aiohttp
Talking to PostgreSQL asynchronously - asyncpg
MongoDB interactions asynchronously - motor
Check out this list for even more!

[undone lion]

Hi, I was wondering if someone knows what the rate limit/frame rate you can achieve by editing a message over and over with a bot?

[final iron]

Should be listed somewhere in the discord API docs

[shrewd apex]

its mostly based on number of requests rather than over an endpoint global limit per second is 50 requests iirc

https://discord.com/developers/docs/topics/rate-limits#:~:text=global"%3A%20true%20%7D-,Global%20Rate%20Limit,per%20second%20to%20our%20API.

[sick birch]

5 edits / 5 seconds from what I observe

[naive briar]

Rat robot

[fiery girder]

!d discord.on_message_delete

[slate swan]

How can I make the event ignore some function or temporarily disable it?

[naive briar]

Ignore what function and what's the event?

[naive dragon]

New here, have just a general question.
I've gone through most of the basic concepts in Python, and am looking to get started in working on a bot project;
what's the general roadmap that new self-learners take while trying to make something on their own?

I've looked at youtube but there's mostly just out of date stuff that's like older than 1.50 so it's missing info about intents etc.

[sick birch]

The documentation and examples are great resources

But discord.py is more of an advanced library so it's generally expected that you know your way around Python pretty well and you know how to read documentation efficiently

[naive dragon]

I see. So what would be advised for some projects to work on then before a discord bot in your opinion?

I already have a bot connected to discord and all that and the only resource i have is theDocs which is why I came here because yeah I realized it's all just very technical (spending just hours long loops of googling and not actually even touching code)

[sick birch]

!projects has a list of many project ideas you can try

[unkempt canyon]

Kindling Projects

The Kindling projects page on Ned Batchelder's website contains a list of projects and ideas programmers can tackle to build their skills and knowledge.

[sick birch]

Don't take this to mean I'm telling you not to write Discord bots, though. I'm merely pointing out what's typically expected

Plenty of people make discord bots as beginners

[naive dragon]

I'm sure, I realized today though I am just definitely not one of those people lol

thank you for the response, appreciate it

[sick birch]

Personally I learned Python by writing Discord bots. They weren't that great the start, and I had a fair bit of trouble but I did get the hang of it eventually

In the early stages of learning it helps to have a goal or something to keep you motivated. If you're learning just for the sake of learning, you'll probably end up getting burnt out quite fast

[naive dragon]

the projects thing you listed is good for me for sure.

I want to learn to work with python more whether it's making discord bots or pausing on that for the moment to learn and do something else.
As long as I feel I'm progressing and not wasting my time. just reading for hours on google about issues in bots for 4+ hrs out of my day without touching my code editor makes me wanna give up which is why I came to this Discord for extra advice on it.

[sick birch]

What do you mean by

just reading for hours on google about issues in bots
?

[slate swan]

The best way to learn a language is practice

[sick birch]

Yeah. Pretty much anything you do will get you closer to that goal

[naive dragon]

I get an unexpected outcome in my bot > I google / look in thedocs to check individual parts of my strings to try and figure it out > google / thedocs uses language I don't understand > google each word I don't understand > endless cycle

[sick birch]

Yeah. That seems like a lack of experience with the language itself

[naive dragon]

and ultimately i learn nothing if i dont apply it

So then how did you learn through starting with discord bots?

assuming by starting, you mean at the same level i am now which is very minimal

[sick birch]

Pretty much what you did, but I stuck with it for long enough for stuff to start clicking. Learning is exponential, the more you already know, the easier it is to pick up new things
Though I honestly would not recommend that way of learning

[naive dragon]

You just read theDocs ?

and then could construct it?

[sick birch]

No, it took about a year or so

It's a much slower process and also has room to learn bad habits and practices

[naive dragon]

before you could make anything work?

[final iron]

It’s much easier learn about individual topics like functions, async programming, OOP and just the basics overall

Especially with discord bots, basically every single tutorial either uses bad practices or outdated code

[sick birch]

Well, I could make things work by googling the parts that weren't working, but I wouldn't really understand why or how it worked. That's really the intuition that needs to be developed before you can start building things fully on your own, and fixing things without having to google it

[naive dragon]

yeah i realized this which is why im stuck and came here to ask for different types of advice from people. Thanks for the previous reply too, that makes more sense to me. I've gone through Harvard CS50's 15+hr intro to Python vid and I've also gone through freecodecamp's intro vid and they go over every concept you mentioned

[slate swan]

15 hours tutorials

[naive dragon]

in total almost 20 hrs of videos that just kind of feel like lectures on just the basic concepts

[slate swan]

that's my definition of pain

[final iron]

Tbh you’ll gain more knowledge if you’re actually doing mini projects, instead of watching lectures

[naive dragon]

I was also writing along with them

if i was just staring at the screen without doing anything else i'd forget it the next day

don't most people do that when learning? take notes to reinforce or also write the code using said concepts yourself?

[slate swan]

Not everyone nope

Some people watch some 24 hours tutorials named "PYTHON FULL COURSE IN 24 HOURS 2023" and hope that at the end of the video they know everything

[naive dragon]

I gues you're insinuating that's what I am.

Alright anyways, thanks for the responses yall take care

[glad cradle]

you reinforce a lot of what you have learned while coding

[slate swan]

Nope, if you're taking notes etc. it's amazing

Meant some people that come in this channel asking help, and they did exactly that

[compact stag]

alright, so i'm working on a discord bot that streams a certain application, but it looks like in discord.py that isn't supported, unless i'm missing something in the docs, can anyone confirm?

[buoyant quail]

bots can't stream videos, that's the discord api itself

[quick brook]

YT streaming? don't bother with it

[compact stag]

shit

[compact stag]

meaning streaming something from the screen

[quick brook]

oh bots can't do that

[compact stag]

shit.

[glad cradle]

also it's pretty useless since there's the YouTube Activity

[compact stag]

yeah but i wouldn’t be streaming youtube videos, it’d be my screen

i’ll just stream it myself for now and just have people send inputs while watching my stream instead of the bot’s stream

[quick brook]

kinda still useless imo since twitch exists for that

[latent pier]

My cog isn't responding it was working before but not anymore neither i made any changes

My cog

class anti(commands.Cog): 
  def __init__(self, client: MyBot):
    self.client = client

  async def on_ready(self):
    print('Anti is loaded')

  @commands.command()
  async def Hello(self, ctx):
    await ctx.send('done done')

My __init__ file

from .commands.anti import anti
from core import MyBot

async def setup(bot: MyBot):
  await bot.add_cog(anti(bot))

MyBot() is my bot's subclass

[meager rock]

what's your file structure?
do you use bot.load_extensions on the folder where the init.py is located?

the setup function is usually supposed to be in the extension file itself

[latent pier]

It was working before but suddenly stopped working

[meager rock]

• um do you have proper intents in the bot? (Message Content intent is the required one here)
• Does the "Anti is loaded" part get stdout-ed

[latent pier]

I'm using discord.Intents.all()
And no it is not printing Anti is loaded

[hushed galleon]

i would guess it might be getting ratelimited like usual for replit, but you cant tell because client.start() doesn't setup logging

[latent pier]

Same issue in VSC

[shrewd apex]

load_extension("cogs") - didn't u have to pass the file path seperated with .

[meager rock]

No

[shrewd apex]

oh ok the init.py

[meager rock]

cogs here is acting as a module itself since it has a setup function in the init

[hushed galleon]

hmm, can you add discord.utils.setup_logging() just before starting the client?

[shrewd apex]

just scrolled

[shrewd apex]

are u allowed to have a command with capital letters? iirc u cant in slash i forgot for normal ones

[meager rock]

you can in normal commands

[hushed galleon]

^ though it's case sensitive by default unless you use case_insensitive=True

[latent pier]

I'll try

[latent pier]

case_insensitive = True yes ✓

[quick brook]

case_insensitive is for prefixed commands

[shrewd apex]

🙏 i see

[latent pier]

I have both type of commands

[shrewd apex]

weird but ok 👀

[quick brook]

it would only work for prefixed but not work for slash

[latent pier]

You don't have to type anything for slash commands they're just like choose and use

Makes sense

[quick brook]

the reason why is you are supposed to have the setup coro at the end of your cog. Might want to see this example on cogs

[shrewd apex]

there is one in the init of cogs module

[hushed galleon]

they're loading the cogs package directly, so it should be reading the setup() from cogs/__init__.py

[quick brook]

ah

[latent pier]

I added logging.basicConfig(filename="bot.log", level=logging.INFO, filemode="a")

What next?

[latent pier]

Or should I change my setup() location based on this?

[hushed galleon]

run your bot as usual, tell us if your command works, and show the log output

oh yeah didn't notice it the first time but your on_ready() won't print without a @commands.Cog.listener() decorator

[latent pier]

Ohh my bad

I got it confused with bot subclass

[latent pier]

Command worked just by adding logging to bot 😭

How

[hushed galleon]

i would still guess discord ratelimited your bot, you just didn't have a way to tell if it was happening

i can't recall how writing to files work in replit so i suggest using discord.utils.setup_logging(), or at least don't specify a filename in basicConfig()

[latent pier]

I've been facing this issue since yesterday and maybe no resson for rate limit because it's just temporary testing bot

[latent pier]

Oh i see

I never used logging before

Is there a way i can print it? Like if i want to make it log on console instead of file?

[hushed galleon]

that's what setup_logging and basicConfig does by default

!d discord.utils.setup_logging

[unkempt canyon]

discord.utils.setup\_logging

discord.utils.setup_logging(*, handler=..., formatter=..., level=..., root=True)```
A helper function to setup logging.

This is superficially similar to [`logging.basicConfig()`](https://docs.python.org/3/library/logging.html#logging.basicConfig) but uses different defaults and a colour formatter if the stream can display colour.

This is used by the [`Client`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.Client) to set up logging if `log_handler` is not `None`.

New in version 2.0.

[latent pier]

Ohh okay

Thanks for help

[kindred epoch]

any free recommended places to host a bot?

[quick brook]

i know

Please make sure you read this fully

When you look for hosting your bot, you might be tempted to use free services or providers that claim to support hosting discord bots (eg PebbleHost and others). Do not use them. Why? Let me explain.

Free hosts and tiers always have drawbacks - The point of a free tier or a host is to get the user to use their product, and upgrade for all of the good features. Hosts such as replit use shared cpus, oftentimes will run into ratelimits, and have "gotchas" that make you tempted to upgrade to their paid tiers. They also literally remove all control out of how you run your bot. Think about it: Hosts need to make money somehow in order to either break even or gain profit. So naturally they will tempt you into upgrading in order to do that. This is basic economics and quite literally how businesses run.

If you are still looking for a host after reading this, then you have some options. And here are them:

1. Pay up - Pay up and use a VPS provider. My pick is Heznter, but see ?tag vps for the full list (if you are on the Python discord server, then see !hosting for your options). More than likely if you are not an eligible HS or college student, this is your option.

2. Self Host - If you are able to self host your own server, then go for it. This is really the only "free" way if you already pay for your electricity bill and have the equipment to do so. Raspberry Pis oftentimes are great for this.

3. GitHub Student Developer Pack - IF you are a enrolled student in an HS or college (you will need to either provide an valid student ID or proof of education of your HS or college), then you may apply for this deal. More info about this can be found here. The deal offers $200 free credits on DigitalOcean for 1 year, so if you are a student and need to host your bot, go for it.

@kindred epoch read the message above

[kindred epoch]

lol alr ty

[quick brook]

np lol

[late reef]

How would you make your discord bot send a message with this kind of format? Like with the line on the side, and the darker shaded background? (OWO bot for reference)

[sick birch]

This is just a normal embed

[late reef]

How would I go about that, good sir?

Also nice PFP

[sick birch]

!d discord.Embed

[unkempt canyon]

discord.Embed

class discord.Embed(*, colour=None, color=None, title=None, type='rich', url=None, description=None, timestamp=None)```
Represents a Discord embed.

len(x) Returns the total size of the embed. Useful for checking if it’s within the 6000 character limit.

bool(b) Returns whether the embed has any data set.

New in version 2.0.

x == y Checks if two embeds are equal.

New in version 2.0...

[sick birch]

Note the colour kwarg

[late reef]

Hmm, I've never used one of those before. Have any examples of how I would apply that to a message?

[sick birch]

What do you mean, "apply it to a message"?

[late reef]

Idk, I'm just trying to make my discord bot send a message in that format. Say I wanted to send:

Hello!
I am a bot!
I do bot things!

but as an embed

[quick brook]

inline=False for embed fields

by default it is enabled

[hushed galleon]

assuming you're using discord.py, you would construct an Embed object with whatever attributes/parameters you want it to show, and then use the embed= parameter for whatever send() method you're calling

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/381963689470984203/1014330043507408896/unknown-2.png

[late reef]

Can you edit embeds?

[quick brook]

you would have to replace the embed with a new one

[hushed galleon]

well, embeds can be modified in-place but you still need to edit the message for your changes to take effect

[quick brook]

true

[hushed galleon]

for example: ```py
embed = discord.Embed(description="Hello world!")
message = await channel.send(embed=embed)

embed.description = "foobar2000"
await message.edit(embed=embed)```

[stray mural]

so I have an issue with making an activity for my bot
this is the code i use

intents = discord.Intents.all()
bot = commands.Bot(command_prefix="_", intents=intents)
client = discord.Client(intents=intents)

async def load():
    await bot.load_extension(f"cogs.<COG-NAME>")

async def main():
    activity = discord.Activity(type=discord.ActivityType.competing, name="working again!")
    await bot.change_presence(status=discord.Status.online, activity=activity)
    await load()
    await bot.start("<TOKEN>")

asyncio.run(main())

the console returns me the following error AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'change_presence', implying that the bot object is non-existent which doesnt make sense as the cog I load works flawlessly, which uses the botobject.

[quick brook]

you know.... you can set the activity directly instead

and also you dont need line 3

[final iron]

You shouldn't have 2 bot instances

Your intents variable is also useless as you could just pass discord.Intents.all() as your intents

[stray mural]

how do I do that?

[stray mural]

thanks for pointing that out

[final iron]

!d discord.ext.commands.Bot

[unkempt canyon]

discord.ext.commands.Bot

class discord.ext.commands.Bot(command_prefix, *, help_command=<default-help-command>, tree_cls=<class 'discord.app_commands.tree.CommandTree'>, description=None, intents, **options)```
Represents a Discord bot.

This class is a subclass of [`discord.Client`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.Client) and as a result anything that you can do with a [`discord.Client`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.Client) you can do with this bot.

This class also subclasses [`GroupMixin`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ext/commands/api.html#discord.ext.commands.GroupMixin) to provide the functionality to manage commands.

Unlike [`discord.Client`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.Client), this class does not require manually setting a [`CommandTree`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/interactions/api.html#discord.app_commands.CommandTree) and is automatically set upon instantiating the class.

async with x Asynchronously initialises the bot and automatically cleans up.

New in version 2.0.

[final iron]

activity and status kwargs

[stray mural]

thanks

[slate swan]

async def on_timeout(self):
  print("timeout")
  embed= discord.Embed(
      title = "❗ | 시간초과",
      description = f"답장이 너무 오래걸려 프로세스가 종료되었습니다.",
      color = discord.Color.from_rgb(255, 0, 0)
  )
  embed.set_footer(text=f"{Ftmsg}")
  await interaction.response.edit_message(embed=embed,view=None)
  return

How do I fix it to work?

[quick brook]

fix what to work

like fix the canbus to allow the cancoders to work?. Point is i dont know what you want that should get fixed and idk the error as well

[slate swan]

I'm trying to modify the existing embed at timeout in discord.ui.View, but there is no interaction in on_timeout, so I can't modify the embed by the way I know it.

[quick brook]

u cant (found a way)

actually nvm found a way

https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/faq.html#how-can-i-disable-all-items-on-timeout

[fiery girder]

i want to test something on my bot can anyone help me test

[quick brook]

what you would need to do is to edit the message itself, not the interaction. refer to the link (https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/faq.html#how-can-i-disable-all-items-on-timeout) for more info

[slate swan]

Test yourself

Create a second account, etc.

[slate swan]

Does it work on discord.py 2.0 as well?

The documentation is for 2.x so take guess

[slate swan]

That document doesn't solve it

I looked at that document and tried it for 40 minutes

But I couldn't find an answer.

[quick brook]

the docs doesn't give you answer explicitly. it guides you torwards it

i already know of a way to pretty much do what you want, but i want to let you figure out your own implementation of it

[slate swan]

😢

view.message = await interaction.response.send_message(embed=embed,view=view)

Is it correct to use this code?
Continuously self.message value is shown as None

[quick brook]

send_message returns None, so you will probably want to modify it to take in an InteractionMessage instead. Note that all interactions can only be responded to once unless you make a followup request

[slate swan]

await interaction.response.send_message(embed=embed,view=view)
view.message = await interaction.original_response()

I understand up to here
But I'm not sure how to use self.message

The value of self.message is <InteractionMessage id=123 channel=<TextChannel id=123 name='channelname' position=0 nsfw=False news=False category_id=None> type=<MessageType.chat_input_command: 20> author=<Member id=123 name='bot name' global_name=None bot=True nick=None guild=<Guild id=123 name='server name' shard_id=0 chunked=False member_count=123>> flags =<MessageFlags value=0>>

These value were obtained using print()

[naive briar]

Like any other message objects

[naive briar]

That is the representation string of the object

!d discord.InteractionMessage

[unkempt canyon]

discord.InteractionMessage

class discord.InteractionMessage```
Represents the original interaction response message.

This allows you to edit or delete the message associated with the interaction response. To retrieve this object see [`Interaction.original_response()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/interactions/api.html#discord.Interaction.original_response).

This inherits from [`discord.Message`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.Message) with changes to [`edit()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/interactions/api.html#discord.InteractionMessage.edit) and [`delete()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/interactions/api.html#discord.InteractionMessage.delete) to work.

New in version 2.0.

[slate swan]

ohh i got it

thank you Noelle, Catlover

[quick brook]

Np

[strong venture]

Hi, i have a little issue with the reaction listener. So when I generate a new region message and i react to it everything works fine adding me the roles i selected. The issue starts when i reload my bot, it's like it ignores the reactions from that message or idk.

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/KLVA

[slate swan]

!d discord.on_reaction_add

[unkempt canyon]

discord.on\_reaction\_add

discord.on_reaction_add(reaction, user)```
Called when a message has a reaction added to it. Similar to [`on_message_edit()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.on_message_edit), if the message is not found in the internal message cache, then this event will not be called. Consider using [`on_raw_reaction_add()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.on_raw_reaction_add) instead.

Note

To get the [`Message`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.Message) being reacted, access it via [`Reaction.message`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.Reaction.message).

This requires [`Intents.reactions`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.Intents.reactions) to be enabled.

Note

This doesn’t require [`Intents.members`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.Intents.members) within a guild context, but due to Discord not providing updated user information in a direct message it’s required for direct messages to receive this event. Consider using [`on_raw_reaction_add()`](https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.on_raw_reaction_add) if you need this and do not otherwise want to enable the members intent.

[slate swan]

See the first paragraph

Explains why it's not dispatching the event

[slate swan]

And the code is?

[slate swan]

Modals cannot contain user selects

Modals can only contain text inputs

!d discord.ui.TextInput

[unkempt canyon]

discord.ui.TextInput

class discord.ui.TextInput(*, label, style=<TextStyle.short: 1>, custom_id=..., placeholder=None, default=None, required=True, min_length=None, max_length=None, row=None)```
Represents a UI text input.

str(x) Returns the value of the text input or an empty string if the value is `None`.

New in version 2.0.

[young dagger]

Anyone else getting [Errno 111] Connection refused with mongodb?

[mighty pilot]

Can you change the button style inside on_timeout? I gave it a try and it didn't work, just wondering if there's some workaround

[real oriole]

ok so i have a proplem with

@client.command()
async def pack(ctx):
packs = {
"Bronze": 10000,
"Silver": 15000,
"Gold": 25000,
"Special": 50000
}

pack_list = ', '.join([f"{pack}({price})" for pack, price in packs.items()])

await ctx.send(f"Available packs: {pack_list}\nPlease reply with the pack name.")

def check(m):
    return m.author == ctx.author and m.channel == ctx.channel

try:
    reply = await bot.wait_for('message', check=check, timeout=30)
except asyncio.TimeoutError:
    await ctx.send("You took too long to reply.")
    return

selected_pack = reply.content.capitalize()

if selected_pack not in packs:
    await ctx.send("Invalid pack name.")
    return

cost = packs[selected_pack]

# Check if the user has enough money
user_id = str(ctx.author.id)

db = sqlite3.connect("data.db")
cursor = db.cursor()

cursor.execute("SELECT money FROM info WHERE id=?", (user_id,))
user_money = cursor.fetchone()[0]

if user_money < cost:
    await ctx.send(f"You don't have enough money. You currently have {user_money}.")
    cursor.close()
    db.close()
    return

selected_card = random.choice(cards_in_pack)

embedVar = discord.Embed(title=f"Unpacking a card from {selected_pack} pack",
                         color=0xff00ff)
embedVar.add_field(name=f"Card Name", value=selected_card[0], inline=False)
embedVar.add_field(name=f"Score", value=selected_card[1], inline=True)
embedVar.add_field(name=f"Position", value=selected_card[2].upper(), inline=True)
embedVar.add_field(name=f"Price", value=f"${selected_card[3]}", inline=True)
embedVar.set_image(url=selected_card[4])

await ctx.send(embed=embedVar)

at the start as u see it should detect the reply

but it doesnt detect

how can i make it detect the reply?

[mighty pilot]

!code

[unkempt canyon]

Formatting code on discord

Here's how to format Python code on Discord:

```py
print('Hello world!')
```

These are backticks, not quotes. Check this out if you can't find the backtick key.

For long code samples, you can use our pastebin.

[lunar vine]

discord.py

send docs

[mighty pilot]

!d discord.Interaction.response

[unkempt canyon]

discord.Interaction.response

Returns an object responsible for handling responding to the interaction.

A response can only be done once. If secondary messages need to be sent, consider using followup instead.

[maiden fable]

iirc u could
Don't bots change the button style to disabled?

[mighty pilot]

None of my buttons have changed on timeout

[maiden fable]

Code?

[young dagger]

Nvm firewall issue

[mighty pilot]

Not at my computer rn, daughters nap time so I need to get her to sleep. But it's nothing abnormal I set a view timeout to 5 sec with a green button for testing and on timeout the button is unchanged, but will error on press. But if I try to change self.children[0].style in the on_timeout it doesn't error and doesn't do it

[turbid condor]

I meant to say that u should just use a button callback which uses interaction response instead of bot.wait_for

[lunar vine]

                user_identification_view = UserIdentificationView()
                await interaction.channel.send(embed=identification_embed, view=user_identification_view)
                await asyncio.sleep(20)
                break
             except asyncio.TimeoutError:
                # Handle the case where the user did not respond within the specified timeout
                await interaction.channel.send("Interaction timed out; go ahead and use this one.")
            while True:
             def amtcheck(message):
                 return (
                    message.channel == interaction.channel
                    and message.author == interaction.user
                    and message.content.strip().isdigit()  # Ensure the response is a valid number 
                    )
             
             try:
                    amount_embed = discord.Embed(
                    title="Amount",```

these are two diff embeds and they r sending at the same time

[sick birch]

Theoretically yes, on_timeouts are just a discord.py thing

[lunar vine]

but idk what u mean by wait for

[maiden fable]

Well I'll have to see some code because I remember changing the style to disabled when I used to code. I'll try finding some code which does the same but u sharing the code would be really helpful

[sick birch]

Because of that, though, you're not provided with an interaction object

[lunar vine]

me or him

robin u didnt actually spend money on discord shop?

[sick birch]

Why does it matter?

[mighty pilot]

Let me slap something together rq on my phone lol

[lunar vine]

thought it was just a money grab but; are u talking 2 me or him

[maiden fable]

Him

[lunar vine]

because we are both dealing with interactions

[quick hatch]

Can i ask how to made self bot?

[lunar vine]

no!1!

[quick hatch]

Why?

[lunar vine]

tos!1!

[quick hatch]

What?

[lunar vine]

its against terms of service

[quick hatch]

Oh ok

[lunar vine]

also whats the point of selfbotting its just a waste of time

[quick hatch]

Srry

[lunar vine]

whatever u can do a bot can do way better

[quick hatch]

Okk

[quick hatch]

Tnx for helping

[lunar vine]

No problem

[mighty pilot]

@bot.tree.command()
async def test(interaction:discord.Interaction):
    await interaction.response.send_message(view = myview(timeout=5))

class myview(discord.ui.View):
    @discord.ui.button(style = discord.ButtonStyle.green, row=1, label = 'testing')
    async def mybutton(self, interaction:discord.Interaction, button:discord.ui.Button):
        await interaction.response.send_message(content= "pushed the button", ephemeral= True)
    async def on_timeout(self):
        self.children[0].style = discord.ButtonStyle.grey

Button stays green on timeout

Oh I need to edit the response. Nvm.

[sick birch]

Also you can do self.mybutton.style = discord.ButotnStyle.grey

[maiden fable]

yea.... u gotta tell Discord that u edited the style lol

Was finding the docs for that, kinda forgot where they were

[mighty pilot]

Yea I tried both ways. Just realized I'm a big dumb and never edited the response lol

[real oriole]

uh how will that help

[mighty pilot]

Helps people read your code, instead of it looking like a bunch of text on a screen

[real oriole]

ok wait

[mighty pilot]

Also, have you tried putting in some prints to see what's getting triggered, if the bot is detecting a reply at all? And do you have message content intents?

[real oriole]

https://paste.pythondiscord.com/VHVA

[real oriole]

i enabled all intents
intents = discord.Intents.all()
client = commands.Bot(command_prefix="-", intents=intents)

[mighty pilot]

So you're getting the timeout message whether you reply or not?

[hushed galleon]

hmm, command is decorated with client but you're accessing the wait_for method from bot...

those aren't two bot objects you're using, right?

[mighty pilot]

Ooo good catch

[real oriole]

uh im using client

not bot

[final iron]

You have bot.wait_for though

So you have 2 instances

[real oriole]

so i should change it to client.

[mighty pilot]

No error because it's in a try block

[mighty pilot]

Yes

[real oriole]

then it will detct the message?

[mighty pilot]

Try and see?

[real oriole]

ok

[final iron]

You still shouldn’t have 2 bot instances

And your commands.Bot instance shouldn’t be called client as discord.Client exists

[slate swan]

a discord admin ?

it says claim your account, am logged here

[final iron]

what

[quick brook]

what is this

[languid siren]

What's some reasonable price to host a discord bot online?
For example a simple one that scrapes some data and shows them in discord (no databases etc).

I am using pythonanywhere with 6.5€/month but I'm not satisfied. The consoles keep crashing.

I'm new in hosting my bots. They are actually the first things I make myself that are useful to more people (not just me, running a script when I want to).

[cloud dawn]

Netcup vps

Depending on how many servers it is in Discord bots use little resources.

[quick brook]

Henzter

[languid siren]

Isn't it way too expensive for a simple bot? I'll check it's tiers. Thanks.

[quick brook]

No their cheapest plans are 4 euros per month

[languid siren]

Ok that will do it then. Thanks 👍

[quick brook]

Np

[languid siren]

Do they reset their consoles?

[cloud dawn]

netcup is cheaper tough

[quick brook]

Also questionable

[quick brook]

No you pay for a vps and ssh into it

[languid siren]

I want something that runs 24/7 without resetting its consoles like pythonanywhere (it only gives you the always on feature for just one app).

[quick brook]

Henzter does that

[cloud dawn]

Not really german servers are heavily subsidized.

[quick brook]

Their servers run 24/7. All you need to do is to ssh into it, and set it up

[languid siren]

I am sure it's a pain for a beginner, right? Pythonanywhere was really simple. But I think it's worth it.

[quick brook]

You can use something like systemd to run your bot as a process and manage it via that way

[languid siren]

I don't even know what ssh is lol. Will learn.

[cloud dawn]

Remote terminal

[cloud dawn]

You could get one that is a bit more expensive for a UI but honestly if you plan to do this more often I recommend learning it now.

[slate swan]

ssh is wonderful

[feral timber]

[upbeat star]

wasn't discord.py discontinued

[quick brook]

No

Discord.py is maintained

[upbeat star]

oh so just no more updates

[quick brook]

Updates are happening

[upbeat star]

tf

so then why the big announcement on the discord.py server ages ago

[quick brook]

Check the GitHub repo

[quick brook]

That was 2 years ago

[upbeat star]

yeah lol i don't use discord much

[quick brook]

In short terms dpy is maintained and has full support for stuff like slash commands and all of the other discord features

last commit was 24 minutes ago on the discord.py repo

[final iron]

Danny was being a little bitch (no diss) because of Discord changes so he quit

Then like 8 months later he came back

[upbeat star]

oh lol

[final iron]

I think it had to do with how he thought the other forks were shit

[sick birch]

No I think.. he just had other responsibilities

[final iron]

He made it seem like the leave was permanent

[hushed galleon]

<t:1630036800:d> https://gist.github.com/Rapptz/4a2f62751b9600a31a0d3c78100287f1
<t:1647921600:d> https://gist.github.com/Rapptz/c4324f17a80c94776832430007ad40e6
as per the newer gist:

... as time went on it became increasingly clear that the Python bot ecosystem has been too fragmented. I was hopeful that after half a year that there would be a clear alternative library that most users can transparently migrate to, but it seems that this never ended up materialising. In order to prevent more turbulence in the ecosystem, it made sense to try to remedy the current, unfortunate, situation.

[final iron]

My motivation to work on Discord has been dwindling over the past year, since the verification system was introduced. Persistent tone deafness, deadlines, lies, gaslighting, and rapid changes without proper consultation by the Discord employees make it hard to have the motivation necessary to work with the frequent changes and the limitations being placed on me.

tldr intents and just Discord staff being ass is what got him all worked up

[hushed galleon]

arguably it might be a safer choice to use an alternative given that danny didn't have any major contributor of the library that was willing to take over development when he left, but i believe it still remains as the most popular library for python discord bots, hence why most of the help here involves it

[formal basin]

How can I stop my discord bot getting rate limited in the future when it grows? I have on_message events

[meager rock]

1. don't use replit
2. don't make too many requests in a short time frame
3. shard your bot, look into discord.AutoShardedClient/ discord.ext.commands.AutoShardedBot

[idle lantern]

Hi I've been getting this everytime I login to discord

Did i messup with my bot?

[shrewd apex]

whats this screenshot of? a modal?

[quick brook]

is this some figma design?

[formal basin]

its been rate limited for 2 hours now

and i cant put it back online

[glad cradle]

hi, "Application Role Connection Object" these are linked roles of third party apps right?

[shrewd apex]

yeah prolly tho not 100% sure

[formal basin]

when does the rate limit go?

[shrewd apex]

nothing u can do

[formal basin]

its been 2 hours

[shrewd apex]

it depends on discord

bots are ratelimited by application id and tokens

so u can just wait it out

[formal basin]

I dont have 2000+ guilds

only 160

[shrewd apex]

were u using replit?

[formal basin]

so i cant shard

[formal basin]

no

[shrewd apex]

or do u have some task which makes a bunch of requests?

[formal basin]

well i have on_message events and active servers can maybe rate limit my bot using them

[shrewd apex]

might be that then why not work on optimisation of ur bots events aspects then

add some cool down bucket or limiter

[formal basin]

idk what to add. What would count as a request?

[shrewd apex]

anything that makes a request to the discord api

[formal basin]

reading a message?

[shrewd apex]

generally when ur awaiting and requesting something

[shrewd apex]

if u have the message object already then no

[formal basin]

getting the message content?

[formal basin]

Anything???

so like awaiting something from a different api?

[shrewd apex]

say await bot.fetch_channel() any data ur requesting from discord

[shrewd apex]

thats fine

[formal basin]

oh ok

[formal basin]

if the something needs to be done by the message, My on_message event awaits 4 times only

[shrewd apex]

i mean based on any active server say 2-3 messages per second thats like 12 requests

and thats 160 servers

so u might log the requests a bit

[formal basin]

you know delete_after=Int

would that be an request?

[shrewd apex]

yes

it sends message then sleeps and deletes again so 2 reqd

[formal basin]

Ok ill delete that

[shrewd apex]

reqs*

[formal basin]

i dont really need it

[glad cradle]

ty honey

[meager rock]

well you asked for when it grows so I answered likewise
make sure you're not making too many reqs

Sometimes your host can also be the problem if they use shared IPs

[glad cradle]

d.py ratelimit implementation is shit

[formal basin]

we have shared IPs but tbe port is different

@shrewd apex is getting a user id or user permission a request?

if message.author.id == self.bot.user.id or message.author == message.author.bot:
             return
     ```

how many requests per second?

a verified bot can have?

[shrewd apex]

no

[formal basin]

if message.author.guild_permissions.ban_members:
              return

[shrewd apex]

i said when ur awaiting right here u already have the object ur just accessing properties

[formal basin]

what about that

oh

how many requests per scond can a verified bot have?

[buoyant quail]

The same amount as not verified

https://discord.com/developers/docs/topics/rate-limits

[formal basin]

50?

[buoyant quail]

ye

[formal basin]

wait

I thought if your bot is verified its harder to get rate limited?

[quick brook]

50 is the global rate limit. the rate limits are dynamic iirc

[formal basin]

I just realised

my host is having issues

thats why its rate limited

[quick brook]

then what hosts are you using

[formal basin]

diva hosting

[quick brook]

wtf is that one. it sounds like some sus host

[formal basin]

its not

its a good host

[buoyant quail]

Free and good don't exist together :p

[quick brook]

nah i looked it up. shit host compared to DO

[formal basin]

theres a paid plan

[quick brook]

you are better off moving to a proper vps provider instead

[buoyant quail]

And you are using it?

[formal basin]

bro my websocket ping is like 22 all the time

with them

[formal basin]

no

[quick brook]

it's hosted in nj lol

anyways, see your options here

Need to run your bot 24/7? Get a cheap VPS.
https://www.scaleway.com/ EU https://www.time4vps.eu/ Lithuania.
https://www.digitalocean.com/ US https://www.vultr.com/ US
https://www.ovh.co.uk/ EU/Canada https://www.hetzner.com/ Germany/US
Self-hosting: Free hosting: Kinda free:
Any computer. Heroku dead 🦀 GCP, AWS have one year free micros.

[formal basin]

well theres no free ones

[quick brook]

that's the point. Do i have to draw the ATC, AVC, and MC graphs for that market?

[formal basin]

im telling you diva hosting is good

its free

and good ping

[quick brook]

disagree

[quick brook]

you ain't convincing me btw

[formal basin]

i got 2.5 GIB disk

[quick brook]

Please make sure you read this fully

When you look for hosting your bot, you might be tempted to use free services or providers that claim to support hosting discord bots (eg PebbleHost and others). Do not use them. Why? Let me explain.

Free hosts and tiers always have drawbacks - The point of a free tier or a host is to get the user to use their product, and upgrade for all of the good features. Hosts such as replit (see ?tag replit for more info) use shared cpus, oftentimes will run into ratelimits, and have "gotchas" that make you tempted to upgrade to their paid tiers. They also literally remove all control out of how you run your bot. Think about it: Hosts need to make money somehow in order to either break even or gain profit. So naturally they will tempt you into upgrading in order to do that. This is basic economics and quite literally how businesses run.

If you are still looking for a host after reading this, then you have some options. And here are them:

1. Pay up - Pay up and use a VPS provider. My pick is Heznter, but see ?tag vps for the full list (if you are on the Python discord server, then see !hosting for your options). More than likely if you are not an eligible HS or college student, this is your option.

2. Self Host - If you are able to self host your own server, then go for it. This is really the only "free" way if you already pay for your electricity bill and have the equipment to do so. Raspberry Pis oftentimes are great for this.

3. GitHub Student Developer Pack - IF you are a enrolled student in an HS or college (you will need to either provide an valid student ID or proof of education of your HS or college), then you may apply for this deal. More info about this can be found here. The deal offers $200 free credits on DigitalOcean for 1 year, so if you are a student and need to host your bot, go for it.

[formal basin]

The paid plan just has more storage

and ram

thats the difference

[quick brook]

i can mount 50GB for $2 on Henzter

I only pay like $7 in total

for a VPS provider that actually knows what they are doing. Triple RAID replication, GDPR complaint, etc

[formal basin]

you can buy extra server without paid plan

[quick brook]

can you stop shilling that shitty host?

[formal basin]

I'm telling you its good

[quick brook]

because the next time you ask for help, don't expect it from me anymore

[formal basin]

the went bankrupt because everyone was using the free plan and only 6 people were using paid

thats how good the free plan is

[quick brook]

proves how jackshit it is

[formal basin]

1,000 using free plan

[quick brook]

you have 6 people using your paid plan, you make no profit

[quick brook]

again, can you stop

[formal basin]

Yeah i know

they had to use their own computer

[quick brook]

can you stop about shilling that host. i'm being serious. i dont give two shits about your fucking shitty promotions

[formal basin]

Ok

but im not changing

[glad cradle]

bruh

it's his choice, i don't see anything wrong there

[naive briar]

Me when #code-of-conduct 😔

[slate swan]

yoo its _snipy_

my fav dunder person 😺

[quick brook]

Sorry...

[meager rock]

port doesn't matter tho

[glad cradle]

huh, ty

[burnt coral]

🤔

the software you host are bounded to a port, that's where you access your application, it certainly does matter

[glad cradle]

ports are things only in the local computer so it doesn't matter, ratelimits are shared across same IP addresses

[meager rock]

it has nothing to do with the ratelimits of an API, IP is all that matters

atleast for the discord API

[burnt coral]

oh, that i cannot speak for, apologies

[burnt coral]

the first part of that sentence is absurd, ports are a "thing" on every machine with a NIC

[glad cradle]

i mean ports are under that same IP address

[shrewd apex]

ports would matter if ur using third party webhooks and such which requires either domain or ip and port an example is topgg

[quick brook]

Probably gonna stop helping people on this channel