discord-bots

[unkempt canyon]

Here's how to format Python code on Discord:

```py
print('Hello world!')
```

These are backticks, not quotes. Check this out if you can't find the backtick key.

[slate swan]

wont work

The issue is that you have multiple on_message events and only one will work, all the others will get overwritten and ignorred.

To fix that replace

@client.event

to

@client.listen()

ohhhhhhh

No, you read what the embed says

[slate swan]

but which one

it slike 100 of them

[slate swan]

This?

It says to pack your code in a message like that:

```py
python code here
```

ohhhhh

ok

[slate swan]

didnt work

@client.listen()
AttributeError: 'Client' object has no attribute 'listen' this comes upp

[fading marlin]

why do you have 2 on_message

[slate swan]

Oh yeah, use

from discord.ext import conmands

bot = commands.Bot(...)

[fading marlin]

use an elif block

[slate swan]

i am getting dizzy

Then replace all mentions of client to bot and remove the

client = ....

line

[slate swan]

where do i put that

Replace

client = discord.Client(...)

with that

[slate swan]

but i have to do client

But remove it

[slate swan]

ok

so i remove all client and replace them with bot

No reason to use client in your case

[slate swan]

Exactly

Then .listen() stuff will work

ok

[fading marlin]

actually, there's no point in using bot here , they're not using some spaghetti commands, and having 2 listeners is just pointless

[slate swan]

so what wa sthat elif

and where do i put it

[fading marlin]

a combination of else and if

[slate swan]

ohhh so where do i put it

if message.content == "...":
    # ...
elif message.content == "...":
    # ...

[fading marlin]

that's some basic python logistics...

[slate swan]

but huh where do i put it

[slate swan]

but i am a noob

In the on_message event

You pack two of them in one

thast the problem xd i am trying to learn python

Remove one and keep only one

[slate swan]

!resources

[unkempt canyon]

Resources

The Resources page on our website contains a list of hand-selected learning resources that we regularly recommend to both beginners and experts.

[slate swan]

so i remove one on_message and dont remove one

Might be worth knowing kore python before doing a bot just as side note

[slate swan]

Just keep one yeah

[fading marlin]

tackling discord bots probably isn't the best project to start with then

[slate swan]

ok

[slate swan]

ik but i really want to do it

And instead of using

test_channel = ...
await test_channel.send(...)

just use

await message.channel.send(...)

Will send the message in the current channel where you send the message, which is most likely what you want

why is it yellow

under the message

Don't know, can't guess your code

Krypton — Today at 21:52
if message.content == "...":
# ...
elif message.content == "...":
# ... when do i use these

Not your code

That's my message

    # ...
elif message.content == "...":
    # ...```

[slate swan]

ik

```py
your code here
```

Just copy paste that message above and place your code in the middle

i did

Your entire code

ohhhh

You probably have wrong indentation

ok

[unkempt canyon]

Hey @slate swan! I noticed you posted a seemingly valid Discord API token in your message and have removed your message. This means that your token has been compromised. Please change your token immediately at: https://discord.com/developers/applications

Feel free to re-post it with the token removed. If you believe this was a mistake, please let us know!

[slate swan]

Yeah without your token :)

Go ahead and reset your bot token please

from cgi import test
from math import degrees
import discord
import http

bot = discord.bot(intents=discord.Intents.all())

@bot.event
async def on_ready():

 test_channel = bot.get_channel(1032312979594682491) 
 await test_channel.send('Hello')

@bot.event
async def on_disconnect():
 test_channel = bot.get_channel(1032312979594682491) 
 await test_channel.send('Hello')
  
@bot.event
async def on_message(message):

    if message.content == "What day is it?":
        test_channel = bot.get_channel(1032312979594682491)
        await test_channel.send("The day is the 21th")

@bot.event
async def on_message(message):

    if message.content == "Thank you for telling me!":
        test_channel = bot.get_channel(1032312979594682491)
        await test_channel.send("No Problem AnyTime :)")


bot.run('')

there

You still have 2 events

[slate swan]

why did you see it?

Remove one and keep only one

[slate swan]

Can't you see the bot's message?

i did

[slate swan]

The bot removed your message and clearly said you posted a bot token

but it removed pretty quickly for me

[slate swan]

ik

That doesn't matter, there are people that use client modifications, which are not allowed, to still see those messages

So I definitely recommend to reset the token

i did

but i am confused

[slate swan]

You are missing the import and the bot creation is wrong

wdym

from discord.ext import commands

ohhhhhhhhhh

bot = commands.Bot(...)

so where do i put that

Case sensitive

At the top, with all the other imports

ok

bot = commands.Bot(...)

do i change that with this bot = discord.bot(intents=discord.Intents.all())

Yeah in the ... keep intents stuff

ok

But it's commands.Bot not discord.bot

ok now what

i need to add elif right?

Now you can remove an event

For example the last one

the @bot.event?

And add an elif in the one where you send the day

[slate swan]

That and the other lines below it

Just keep bot.run(...) at the bottom

so i change if to elif and await to elif

right?

await to elif
?

[slate swan]

yea should i remove await and then add elif

No, keep that

ok so what do i replace the elif with

can you like pls show me rq

In the end it will be like that

@bot.event
async def on_message(message):
    if message.content == "...":
        await message.channel.send("...")
    elif message.content == "...":
        await message.channel.send("...")

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

so i just add elif besides await and then add another await

Correct, as I showed above

and what for text should i add after the elif and at the elif

Well your things

Like

What day is it?

And then

await message.channel.send("The day is the 21st")

sorry if i am annoying you

[slate swan]

yea

but what do i add elif message.content == "...": here

It's fine, it's just that you're lacking of basic knowledge that is definitely required for bots

at the darts

[slate swan]

Your second message

[slate swan]

yea i will start learn tmr or in 2 days

Thank you for telling me!

And then .send("No Problem ...")

but now its showing somethign red under elif

Then there's something wrong in your code specifically

do i need to import elif?

No that's a built-in keyword

from cgi import test
from math import degrees
import discord
import http
from discord.ext import commands

bot = commands.Bot(intents=discord.Intents.all())

@bot.event
async def on_ready():

 test_channel = bot.get_channel(1032312979594682491) 
 await test_channel.send('Hello')

@bot.event
async def on_disconnect():
 test_channel = bot.get_channel(1032312979594682491) 
 await test_channel.send('Hello')
  
@bot.event
async def on_message(message):

    if message.content == "What day is it?":
        test_channel = bot.get_channel(1032312979594682491)
        await test_channel.send("The day is the 21th")

@bot.event
async def on_message(message):

    if message.content == "Thank you for telling me!":
        test_channel = bot.get_channel(1032312979594682491)
        await test_channel.send("No Problem AnyTime :)")
        elif message.content == "Thank you for telling me!":
        await test_channel.send("No pronelm Anytime :)")


bot.run('')

[slate swan]

ohhhhh so its already imported

See the difference between

if ...:
    await ...
    elif ...:
    await ...

and

if ...:
    await ...
elif ....:
    await ...

Above is your code, below is how it should be

ohhhhhh

shit my problem sorry

And remove the on_message above

You only need one

you see my friend is good at coding and we coded and he did the elif but i forgot

[slate swan]

ok

How to make a bot respond in a channel? and if it's in another channel say that you need to be in #bot-commands channel

[whole kite]

bot was working last night for some reason doesnt work

all the code is the same from last night

[slate swan]

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "\OneDrive\Skrivbord\Disocrd bots\Discord bot.py", line 7, in <module>
bot = commands.Bot(intents=discord.Intents.all())
TypeError: BotBase.init() missing 1 required positional argument: 'command_prefix'whats this for error msg

[slate swan]

For another channel, you need either the name or the ID of that channel and get a channel object from that

i fixed the eror

[slate swan]

You need to provide

bot = commands.Bot(command_prefix="something here", intents=...)

but now this came File "c:\Users\getbe.MOHAMADSDATOR\OneDrive\Skrivbord\Disocrd bots\Discord bot.py", line 7, in <module>
bot = commands.Bot(intents=commands.Intents.all())
AttributeError: module 'discord.ext.commands' has no attribute 'Intents'

[slate swan]

if ctx.channel.id == your_id:
# your code

Like that?

[slate swan]

discord.Intents.all()

[slate swan]

where

[slate swan]

That will execute the code below if the command has been executed in the channel with that ID

[slate swan]

You fixed it, that's fine

[obtuse blaze]

sry for ping but quick question you recommend VM or lightsail? on aws surely I didn't pinged wrong person to ask this before

[slate swan]

nvm

[slate swan]

And it's okay?

[slate swan]

You need

bot = commands.Bot(command_prefix="something here", intents=discord.Intents.all())

instead of what you had previously

[slate swan]

where do i provide it

[slate swan]

ohhhhhhhhhhhh

[slate swan]

Well, that's not what you want

[slate swan]

Mb !=

== => !=

That's what i want

Oh wait

I misspleded

Ye

You want to execute commands only if it's in that specific channel?

krypton

[slate swan]

Yes

Yeah then

if ctx.channel.id == ID:
    # Code

is fine

somethings wrong the bit wont reply to my "what day is it"

[slate swan]

Yeah as I said, you need to add that in the elif now

[dull terrace]

I use EC2 t3 micro for a bot of mine that has 1.5k servers and it handles it with about 5% of the cpu used, that one comes free for a year

[slate swan]

but i did at the bottom like you said

No you didn't

Your if and your elif both work only for

Thank you for telling me!

[obtuse blaze]

so VM alr thx

[slate swan]

yea i saw that

Then replace the text in your elif to be

What day is it

And replace in the .send() below the elif the message you want to send

Horrible stats tool

[dull terrace]

i imagine once i get past maybe 5k servers i would need to upgrade, but by then i should have a couple patreons

[slate swan]

yay krypton it worked i did it (we did it) tysm for the help

well i need to go to sleep i have school tmr and yet again tysm

And don't forget https://www.pythondiscord.com/resources/ :)

[dull terrace]

hmm

should i be keeping my instance name private

[slate swan]

yes ty

[obtuse blaze]

oh icic you using linux im assuming ?

[dull terrace]

windows

[obtuse blaze]

oh?

[dull terrace]

no reason why except laziness

[obtuse blaze]

im asking cause I don' have t3 free tier on windows

[dull terrace]

ohh my bad

[obtuse blaze]

t2

[dull terrace]

yeah

[obtuse blaze]

alr thank you

[slate swan]

Now if y'all don't mind I'll work on my projects

[obtuse blaze]

ohhh I just saw

it gives us 750h of free

so only 31 days? or im being dumb

[dull terrace]

basically one month of computing, so if you start a ton of ec2 you'd end up getting charged

per month

[obtuse blaze]

so we get 750 per month

[dull terrace]

you get one instance free basically

[obtuse blaze]

ah ic btw can I make you question about connection to it cause im having a problem that doesn't make sense

[dull terrace]

are you using windows?

[obtuse blaze]

mhm

im using RDC and it keeps giving connection error

[dull terrace]

did you download their rdp file to make sure you got details correct?

[obtuse blaze]

mhm

[dull terrace]

is the instance started?

[obtuse blaze]

yup

[dull terrace]

should see that, needs to have done the checks too

[dull terrace]

and you decrypted the password and used it to connect?

[obtuse blaze]

it doesn't even ask for it

error shows up even before login is asked

[dull terrace]

hmm maybe im forgetting a step, you might need to allow access, i thought that was done by default though

click on your instance, go to the security tab

click on the security group name that's linked

one of the rows should have this

[obtuse blaze]

looking for it 1 sec

[dull terrace]

with a source name and port

[obtuse blaze]

it has the default one

idk if this is correct but still not working

[dull terrace]

are you on the inbound rules?

[obtuse blaze]

mhm

[dull terrace]

that's very weird it has that by default on yours

[obtuse blaze]

ikr never seen this

[dull terrace]

i would delete that rule, you don't want all inbound traffic accepted

https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/WindowsGuide/authorizing-access-to-an-instance.html

[obtuse blaze]

what should I put on source?

my ip only?

well it worked now

[dull terrace]

yeah, bare in mind that your ip can change every once in a while if you have a dynamic ip

[obtuse blaze]

tysm

[slate swan]

Wondering what that has to do with Discord bots development

[dull terrace]

np, took me hours to figure that out on my own with little experience in setting this stuff up

[dull terrace]

discord bot ʰᵒˢᵗᶦⁿᵍ

[obtuse blaze]

its for host bot

[dull terrace]

[obtuse blaze]

smh only bad thing about this free stuff is that pc is laggy af

[slate swan]

Channel is for bot development if you read the description of it

Alternatively there is a thread in this channel for hosting

#965291480992321536

[obtuse blaze]

its still bot related- well nvm, im sry if it was annoying for you

[slate swan]

Quoting the channel description

For questions and discussions relating to Discord bot development with discord.py and other relevant Python libraries.

There is a thread for bot hosting, it was not made for decorating

[obtuse blaze]

once again I already said im sry.. idk what you expect more with this? me kneeling or what

[slate swan]

its still bot related

You apparently still believe it belongs to this channel

[obtuse blaze]

And you still keeping typing

[slate swan]

Why would I be disrespectful and not reply to your question?

[obtuse blaze]

[slate swan]

yea i have that dude blocked we should just report him at this point

[south coyote]

how do you make a discord bot specifically a tipbot

[primal token]

Who krypton?

[slate swan]

yup

dude is a weirdo and has a massive ego

[south coyote]

can someone link me

[primal token]

I wouldnt say that from what I've seen

[south coyote]

save the drama for yo mama

[slate swan]

i mean if another person is having issues with him then its something he is doing wrong

[primal token]

Because he's experienced and is ruthless doesnt mean he has an ego

[slate swan]

ruthless? nah straight disrespectful

[bold surge]

[primal token]

Well, if you think that you should report it to @novel apex

[slate swan]

you can know ur shit and not being a weird ab it

[south coyote]

anyways

[primal token]

I doubt you will get far as moderators havent muted or banned him

[slate swan]

he is just like half of the dpy staff lmao. all egotistical weirdos who think they know anything

and shame you if you say something they dont like

[primal token]

May i ask how the assumption of half of the staff in the dpy server are "weirdos"

[south coyote]

you realize you are committing slander right

can someone help me find information on building a discord tipbot that is compatible with avalanche tokens?

[primal token]

Knowing your stuff and being ruthless isnt really being weird, i see it allot in the programming community across platforms, doesnt mean its correct but thats just how people behave

[south coyote]

im sure the feeling is mutual so quit acting like you are the better one

[primal token]

?

[south coyote]

he probably doesn't like you either jaymart

[primal token]

I think krypton doesnt even know who he is, from what I've seen

[south coyote]

so just leave each other alone and let it be

[primal token]

Yeah, i agree

[slate swan]

yeah he does lmao i have him blocked for a reason

[south coyote]

this isn't a courtroom

jaymart you aren't helping your case

[primal token]

I do know the feeling as some experienced developers help you in a weird manner but lets change the topic

[south coyote]

please quiet down

[primal token]

If you feel that sure, but lets change topics

[hollow quarry]

this is enough, please stop being rude to people. if you have concerns about a user, DM them to @novel apex.

and please avoid using ableist language

[livid kindle]

guys i need your help , i live in iran and now they locked everything but I still can connect to discord web's voice channel but in app it stuck in RTC, is there a way that i could use to copy the ip that web version uses so i could paste it somewhere in app then maybe i can connect to voice channels (in app)?

like can i copy the .js file on web and paste it on app?

[dry fox]

is there discord library for python2?

[wary shadow]

Hopefully not. py2 is long dead.

[dry fox]

Yeah but it would really help my case because then i need to mess around with oauth (rather then borrowing already working from a friend)

[tight obsidian]

can you explain in more detail what you're trying to do?

[dry fox]

#help-peanut

basically simple for personal use discord bot communicating with my school's site

[royal wind]

Hello, I have a pretty general question:

It's been some time since I last worked on my super basic bot. I want to redo things from almost the ground. I am thinking of using database to track stuff like server pts, account id, warnings, etc. I am thinking of using SQL instead of online database like MongoDB. I have an old desktop that I plan to use for this server running 24/7. I will be writing using Python. I heard Python has built in SQL or something like that. Does that mean it's possible? Is there any good beginner tutorial for this?

[sick birch]

I think there's a bit of a misconception here between SQL and "online database like mongo"

SQL is only the language, not the database and mongodb is not necessarily an online database (though the company does provide DaaS for you)

[royal wind]

Probably yes. I'm currently taking basic of database class, and I start to learn a little bit, but just a little bit.

But I believe database for discord bot should be relatively simple (adding entry if doesn't exist, modifying entry, deleting entry)

[sick birch]

You're right, though the first step should be to figure out exactly what you want

From what you've said earlier, I think an SQLite database along with aiosqlite is what you're looking for

[royal wind]

SQLite was actually the thing I used in class. I thought SQL is more popular, thus I wanted to go there. But if SQLite is perfectly fine, then that's even better

What is AIOSQLite? Is that a second type of database?

[sick birch]

There is no distinction between SQL and SQLite

SQLite is the "engine" while SQL is the interfacing language

Other databases also use SQL: PostgreSQL (colloquially known as "postgres"), MS SQL Server, MySQL, etc

All of these use SQL to interface with the engine

If you know SQL you can really work with all of these

[sick birch]

It just lets you interface with an SQLite database asynchronously

[royal wind]

Is SQL something like

CREATE TABLE {
....
}

FROM * SELECT ...

etc etc?

[sick birch]

Yup

Though I hate writing SQL queries

[royal wind]

Ok so let's say I want to use that. how do I incorporate it with Python language discord bot?

[sick birch]

I much prefer an ORM

Type safety and ease of use

[royal wind]

Do I use SQL syntaxes inside the Python IDE?

[obtuse blaze]

Robin since you here can I make 2 quick questions?

[royal wind]

Probably, but for now, as a complete beginner, I think I'll stick to one slowly until I understand before moving on

[sick birch]

You'd use something like
sql.execute("Select * FROM table_name ...")

[royal wind]

Aah

[sick birch]

Given you have everything else set up properly

[sick birch]

Fire away

[royal wind]

Ok, is there any specific module(s) I need to import? Is it just import sql?

[sick birch]

import sqlite3 if it's not in a discord bot

It's part of the stdlib

[royal wind]

Ah, ok. So I don't have to install the sqlite or something into the machine

[sick birch]

SQLite is pretty simple so it's just a database file

[obtuse blaze]

So I just adquire free tier AWS to host bot 24/7, and since I have host now I was thinking of switching for something else besides SQlite but idk what and if it's worth it what do you recommend? also is there a way to make bot auto update, cause I was using GitHub to keep track of updates etc but now that bot is hosted on VM i feel like drag and drop every update is kinda "not efficient"

[royal wind]

Also when you say this, why isn't the file .sqlite but .sql?

or did I just misremember it?

[sick birch]

Use AWS RDBMS

And GitHub CI/CD pipeline for updates

[obtuse blaze]

RDBMS?

[royal wind]

This was from my assignment. sqbpro

[sick birch]

Relational database management system

Mouthful, I know

[obtuse blaze]

sheesh

[sick birch]

Doesn't really matter

[slate swan]

why is commands a function

[obtuse blaze]

is it hard to set up?

[sick birch]

Not sure if you know this but file extensions don't mean a whole lot

[sick birch]

Most things on AWS are a royal pain in the ass to set up

[obtuse blaze]

alr I will give a look into it thank you

[royal wind]

I have a suspicion that that's the case

But now you say that, it's confirmed

[obtuse blaze]

imma try it ig tysm

[sick birch]

Hmm..?

[royal wind]

Thank you too Robin. very helpful

[sick birch]

My pleasure

[slate swan]

it works if i just set it as commannd

[obtuse blaze]

do like _commands

[sick birch]

The name of the function?

[slate swan]

that would work but i dont want to type /_commands

[sick birch]

It's probably shadowing from discord.ext import commands

[sick birch]

Pass in name="commands" into the decorator

[slate swan]

commands get connected with this

[sick birch]

Yeah name clashing just use underscore as mentioned

[royal wind]

Ah, is this to make sure only admins can do specific things like ban or the like?

[slate swan]

then i would need to do /_commands

[royal wind]

I need to remmeber that

[slate swan]

yeah

but i wan everyone to me avable to do/commands

[sick birch]

Not if you pass in name kwargs

[royal wind]

@royal wind To specify role permission for a method

[sick birch]

@client.command(name="commands")
async def _commands(...):

@slate swan ^

[royal wind]

Oh btw robins

When I started out doing discord bot, I remember the first tutorial that I followed was using client. But I found out that it was very limiting on what I could and could not do. Another example did it with ctx. What's the difference between these?

[slate swan]

invalid syntax

[sick birch]

I hope you didn't copy paste that

[slate swan]

ehrm

maby

im dumb ok

[sick birch]

bot is a subclass of client which means bot has everything client had and more. With bot it makes it easy to create commands and whatnot

[sick birch]

It was just meant to show where the name kwarg goes

Remove the copy paste and edit your existing code so it looks similar

[royal wind]

Ah ok. Thank you. Back then, I was so frustrated because nobody really explained what the difference. They only said to use specific method to start an easy bot

So that's why bot can do lots more. Because it inherits everything from client + its own stuff

[sick birch]

Yeah tutorials often do that, I don't recommend them

[royal wind]

Do you know a channel that has pretty good tutorial for discord bot?

[sick birch]

Most of them are pretty bad

[royal wind]

Shot, I thought so

[slate swan]

ok tysm

[sick birch]

See the pins in this channel for resources

[royal wind]

I kept jumping back and forth. It was so hard

[slate swan]

it works now ty @sick birch

[sick birch]

Np

[wary shadow]

A lot of what makes a discord bot is just knowing the basics of the language. Everything a bot does comes down to the usual handling data, conditionals, and loops.

[royal wind]

Ok, thank you

[royal wind]

I can see that. But until now I only start taking advanced class with python. Like, it's the first time I understood what that @blablabla mean. Then again, my understanding is still very limited. I believe my code from like a couple months ago was just pure spaghetti code. I'm trying to straighten all of them (at least many of them if all isn't possible)

Ah wtf, there's someone with name blablabla

Also, those of you who have Discord Bot deployed, I wonder how you guys deal with XP and level..

My first idea (and perhaps not good at all), is to keep track of ACCOUNT LEVEL that has ACCOUNT_ID, ACCOUNT_XP, and ACCOUNT_LEVEL. But I figure it's bad because ACCOUNT_LEVEL is just calculated ACCOUNT_XP.

My second idea was to go with ACCOUNT_ID and ACCOUNT_XP. But I wonder how can you make incremental XP requirements. Lv. 1 to Lv. 2 needs 100, but Lv. 2 to Lv. 3 needs 150. Lv. 3 to Lv. 4 needs 180, and so forth.

[sick birch]

Exactly. Store XP and calc level from it

[sick birch]

This is a bit of math

[royal wind]

Hmm

[sick birch]

Find a pattern if you can

Eg each consequent level takes twice as much XP

[royal wind]

Let's say that the next level requires 25% more xp than the previous requirement

If I were to do it this way, I would still need to keep the base line (100XP). If a person just made it to 385XP. I would have to go from beginning:

385XP - 0XP = 385XP
385XP - <basereq>100XP = 285XP
285XP - <prevreq>*1.25 = ...

Do this on a loop until the XP would go below 0, then cancel.

Ok, I think I got it

[sick birch]

Sounds like a simple linear equation

Actually mmm

[royal wind]

Is it possible to not make it linear?

[sick birch]

No I think it's exponential

[royal wind]

It would've looked something like this

[sick birch]

How are you getting these numbers?

[royal wind]

That's starting xp + requirements to advance

[royal wind]

That's just manually calculated using hand

[sick birch]

What's starting xp?

I thought it was just the previous * 1.25

[royal wind]

So to get to Lv. 1, you need 0 XP (everyone starts at Lv. 1)

To be lv. 2, you need at least 100 XP (yeah, that's something I need to fix by the math screenshot)

To be Lv. 3, you need to have 225 XP (Lv. 2 starting being 100 and 125 XP requirements to advance)

[sick birch]

Ohh

[royal wind]

Requirement to advance is calculated from the previous requirement * 1.25

[sick birch]

I was only thinking of how much more you need

So it's cumulative

[royal wind]

Cumulative. Because the ACCOUNT_XP will only get bigger

[sick birch]

Ugh I was never good at math

[royal wind]

So you can be good at programming and not with math?

There's hope for me

[pliant gulch]

Can you say the problem your having again? Just got on

[sick birch]

Not really a problem

We're brainstorming how to make an exponential leveling system

Trying to think of an equation that does it

[pliant gulch]

You would raise to X power

That would be exponential, sorta like a porabola

[royal wind]

It was a problem. Now no longer. At least hopefully. If you see me popping back, then it's because it's still a problem.

It was related to how to make dynamic xp requirement instead of just "every 100xp, raise level by one" thing

[pliant gulch]

I don't think you'd want an exponential leveling system though

It'll get super super hard to level up the further you go

[royal wind]

True, but I think it'll be fine if I can put some reward system that's pretty beneficial (and I can think of some since it's related to MMO game)

[amber ether]

Hey guys. how do i make that so ex: i do /test id and if they do the same id It will send an Error Used Id?

[sick birch]

Isn't that the point

[pliant gulch]

Okay, then it would still be pretty simple though just raise it to a power

[sick birch]

The thing is its cumulative

So it needs to add the amount of XP needed for the last one

[pliant gulch]

Let's say you start off with Level X which needed 100 EXP, the next level would be Level z WITH 100**2

[sick birch]

Recursion maybe?

[royal wind]

Oh, no no. I'm not doing THAT kind of exponential. It's just whatever requirement from previous level multiplied by 1.25 (25% increment in requirements)

It's more like a curve, but not exponential curve I say

[sick birch]

I think we can borrow the equation from compound interest and tweak

After all the scenarios are quite similar

Just instead of money its XP

[royal wind]

Right

isn't my approach more like compounding increment then?

[pliant gulch]

Okay, if your just multiplying by some number that would just be linear growth

[royal wind]

Yep, thanks for verifying.

[pliant gulch]

You have different types of exponential growth, linear, cubic, then exponential like x^2

[uncut tendon]

can someone help me whit my command? i have try in 4 hour i fix so u need a role to run a command but i want the bot to reply if u dont have the role how did i fix that?

[pliant gulch]

There is probably a few more that I'm not remembering

[royal wind]

Cubic is just exponential, but with 3 instead of 2 right?

[pliant gulch]

Yea, x^3

But cubic even though the power is higher, it grows slower than x^2

[royal wind]

Huh?

[royal wind]

Since we're talking positive numbers only, I don't think cube can be beaten by power of two unless you're talking about that first X values

Ah yes

But as the x -> inf, it would overshoot it by a lot right

Now the question is, how can I make sure account_xp isn't updated if it was last updated within x seconds (basically cooldown for spammer to not get xp so fast)?

[pliant gulch]

You can probably use timedelta

[royal wind]

timedelta? Never heard of it before

You mean to literally put a last_update date?

To check if it's within x seconds?

[pliant gulch]

!e ```py
from datetime import datetime, timedelta

last_leveled_up = datetime.utcnow()
cooldown = timedelta(seconds=20)

if datetime.utcnow() + cooldown < datetime.utcnow():
print("Foo")

[unkempt canyon]

@pliant gulch :warning: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.

[No output]

[pliant gulch]

Basically, create a timedelta object, delta meaning difference right? So then you can add that offset to check it from the current time

[royal wind]

Ah, makes sense.

[royal wind]

Yeah. I thought timedelta was just some module name that's encompassing ALL time related stuff in Python

Okay, that's perfect, I can use that for a lot of things probably

[pliant gulch]

👍

[royal wind]

@royal wind To give "cooldown" for an action

[pliant gulch]

It could be either < or > I forgot but you could probably figure that out

But I'm pretty sure to check if some timed passed it's passed < before

[royal wind]

Shouldn't this line comes from the databse btw?

datetime.utcnow() I assume would give us current time

[pliant gulch]

If your using a RDBMS they almost 100% have a timestamp data type or something similiar

[royal wind]

RBDMS? Relational B... Database Management System?

[pliant gulch]

datetime.utcnow() then do a query to append to your database at that location with TIMESTAMP for example

Like in PostgreSQl

[pliant gulch]

Yes

[royal wind]

I'm planning to use SQLite

[pliant gulch]

Okay, you won't have a specific time data type in SQLite

But they give you time functions

So you'd just store via TEXT or something

[royal wind]

Yeah, I believe it's DATE type something like 2022-10-20 05:00:00

[pliant gulch]

ISO8601 Formatted

[royal wind]

But can the same command datetime.utcnow() process that information? Won't different format mess things up?

[pliant gulch]

There should be no problem if you format with ISO8601

[royal wind]

Okay

[pliant gulch]

!e ```py
import datetime; print(datetime.datetime.utcnow().isoformat())

[unkempt canyon]

@pliant gulch :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.

2022-10-21T00:00:32.584967

[royal wind]

All these things are all new territories for me.

[fading marlin]

is this for the leveling cooldown mentioned earlier?

[royal wind]

Ok, so I theoretically now know about:

Database to use (SQLite with DB Browser)
The database table for leveling (ACCOUNT LEVEL = {ACCOUNT_ID, ACCOUNT_XP, LAST_UPDATE})
The time method and verification method before adding XP

I should be able to make the leveling system now

[fading marlin]

why're you using a database to store the last time it was updated?

[royal wind]

If I don't store when the xp was last updated, how can I know if it was within spam zone (e.g. within 5 seconds)?

[pliant gulch]

Oh, yea the time can be turned back into a datetime instance which you'll need

[amber ether]

Hey guys. how do i make that so ex: i do /test id and if they do the same id It will send an Error Used Id?

[fading marlin]

use a dictionary for that instead, it'll probably save you time. And perhaps use time.time() instead of timedelta

[pliant gulch]

!e ```py
import datetime; print(datetime.datetime.fromisoformat("2022-10-21T00:00:32.584967"))

What

[royal wind]

Isn't dictionary a data structure inside Python and not the database?

[fading marlin]

save the somewhere, and check if they're the same?

[unkempt canyon]

@pliant gulch :white_check_mark: Your 3.11 eval job has completed with return code 0.

2022-10-21 00:00:32.584967

[fading marlin]

correct

[mighty pilot]

anybody able to help me accomplish this? im currently using mysql.connector and not quite sure how i would open and close the connection in each command i want to use

[pliant gulch]

That would make your data non-persistent now

You'd need to populate somehow which makes no sense to store temp inside memory

[royal wind]

Do you have any idea why I would prefer to use dictionary? I personally can't think of a reason why.. Unless it's to separate:

year : 2022
month : 10
...
}```

But I don't see the usability from using dictionary for this purpose

[fading marlin]

why would you need the last time a message was sent to be persistent anyway? Sure, use a database to store user and levels, but not the last time a message was sent. It'll probably be quicker to just check if a key exists inside a dictionary rather than opening a connection

[pliant gulch]

Not the time a message was sent, the most recent time a user has leveled up

If the bot turns off you lose all your cooldowns to the next lifetime

So now your cooldown doesn't work and people can spam to level up

Or at least once before a new cooldown is added

[fading marlin]

ah, sorry for my misunderstanding then

[royal wind]

Huh, I am not following that logic andy.

[pliant gulch]

If you use a dictionary to store the cooldown times, it'll disappear when your bot shuts off

Since the dictionary is in memory strictly for the lifetime of your bot there is no data persistence

[royal wind]

Right, that makes sense. Because the information isn't in physical layer, but only stored in RAM

[pliant gulch]

Yea, meaning database is 100% way to go since it persists the data

[mighty pilot]

and he doesnt want that because then it wont prevent spamming when the bot restarts

[royal wind]

Right, but the thing that I was not following was the statement, "you lose all your cooldowns to the next lifetime"

Won't the cooldown be triggered again after the user sends a message? Because a new dictionary is to be created?

[pliant gulch]

Or at least once before a new cooldown is added

I added that last part cause I just realised that too

[royal wind]

Ah, I understand now.

[fading marlin]

doesn't that mean that the user will be able to gain xp from spam right until the last part, when they're about to level up?

[royal wind]

Now the question is, why would Lee recommended using dictionary? Is it to reduce the amount of data stored?

[fading marlin]

I initially recommended it because it was quicker if you were storing the last time a user sent a message (spam detection system-thing). However, if you're going to be storing the last time a user leveled up, then it'd be best to use a database. Thought I'm not quite sure why you'd do that in the first place

[royal wind]

I was not thinking of storing last_update for user level up. I was using it for when the last message was sent by that user.

[pliant gulch]

I'm not sure exactly what the algorithm does for their case but. All I know is setting a cooldown and adding a check to prevent leveling up would work

There also has been some stuff with discord gateway based events using dynamic cooldown mappings via discord.py

But that's probably a whole other thing

[mighty pilot]

anyone have experience opening and closing mariadb connections inside a command?

[fading marlin]

if you're going to check when was the last time a user sent a message, using a dictionary to store user id and time would probably serve you better than connecting to a database and checking stuff there. In that case, you wouldn't need the data to be persistent either way, because it's just spam

[royal wind]

Right... but say the scale is pretty big, won't it occupy lots of memory?

Note: not that my server is big. This is just hypothetical question because I am also learning how to program a good software

[fading marlin]

depends on how you access the data on the dictionary, and you could probably dynamically remove the users from the dictionary

[sick birch]

On the database?

Or in mem

[royal wind]

No, he was suggesting me to use memory-based Python's dictionary to keep track of user's last sent msg date

[mighty pilot]

my situation is im trying to use a temporary table in mariadb to create a way to check rank in your server, and to effectively use temporary tables i need to close the connection, which means i will need to open the connection again when a message is sent or command is issued

so do i put my mysql.connector.connect(...) and define a cursor in each block then close at the end? or is there an easier way

[royal wind]

Hmm, ok. I guess it's fine using memory for now. I guess even in real world, when situation changes, things get changed anyway

[sick birch]

hmm

Why do you need the date?

For what functionality, I mean

[fading marlin]

^ that's the other thing, you'd probably be better off using time.time() instead of an actual date

[sick birch]

heck what am I asking I'm supposed to help people with what they want to do not tell them to not do what they want to do

[mighty pilot]

lmao

[royal wind]

Let's say I want to make sure user only gets XP once every minute. If they send 2 messages within 1 minute, Only the first one counts.

[sick birch]

I see

What I would do in this situation

Include last update on the database but on bot startup load it into cache

And then periodically dump to DB or on bot disconnect

[royal wind]

"not tell them to not do what they want to do"

OMG I love you for this. So many 'tutors' blast newbies for doing things wrong by giving super brief but hard to understand explanation and just disappears. People learn from mistakes too

[sick birch]

This thing will run on each message, yes?

[royal wind]

That makes sense too.

[royal wind]

This runs on each person. If I send a message now, then under my ACCOUNT_LEVEL table at column LAST_UPDATE the message date would be recorded. If I send another message, and it's within 1 minute, I don't gain xp again. If you send a message 3 secs after I do, you still get message, then you get a LAST_UPDATE too

[sick birch]

You may as well be storing the users current XP in memory and perform the same bulk dump to DB

[slate swan]

this is what I do. It works pretty well

[royal wind]

Yeah, good idea

[pliant gulch]

COOLDOWN = commands.CooldownMapping.from_cooldown(RATE, PER, commands.BucketType.member)

class Bot(commands.Bot):
  def __init__(self, *args: Any, **kwargs: Any) -> None:
    super().__init__(*args, **kwargs)

  async def on_message(self, message: discord.Message) -> None:
    cooldown_bucket = COOLDOWN.get_bucket(message)
    if retry := bucket.update_rate_limit():
      return # Don't give EXP
    
    member.author.give_exp()
``` A different way of fixing this problem I guess

[amber ether]

Hey guys. how do i make that so ex: i do /test id and if they do the same id It will send an Error Used Id?

[pliant gulch]

Instead of having a cooldown for leveling up, have a cooldown for getting exp

[sick birch]

Good solution without storing any data

[slate swan]

thisssszzzs

[royal wind]

Oh yeah, I don't even have ACCOUNT_LEVEL attribute. ACCOUNT_LEVEL is a table name

I probably should've specified that to avoid confusion.

[pliant gulch]

I don't know if this still works it's been like hella long time since I've used discord.py so this is basically off memory and some source diving

[royal wind]

The actual account level is mathematically calculated

[pliant gulch]

but face value it looks like it'll work

[slate swan]

it does. I currently use something similar for presence updates event

[royal wind]

Okay, so it looks like I have all the recipes to make the level system

[sick birch]

funny joke

in memory off memory

[mighty pilot]

id still go with a dictionary then just add and remove members from the dictionary as the cooldown is triggered with datetime.timedelta personally

[royal wind]

Thank you @pliant gulch @fading marlin @sick birch

[pliant gulch]

👍

[mighty pilot]

can i get help with mariadb connections now?

[sick birch]

I would say it might be more suited for #databases but we just had a long conversation with @royal wind about databases here so I guess I can't say that lol

[mighty pilot]

i thought it might be better to ask here because im trying to open and close database connection inside of commands and on_message

so i can utilize temp tables

[fading marlin]

mariadb kinda sucks btw, consider using another db

[mighty pilot]

current setup: i connect to the database upon starting my bot and use cursor for whatever i need to do, the problem with this is that in order to use temp tables i need to close connection to automatically get rid of the table. then the connection isnt open again until the bot restarts

[mighty pilot]

im already 500 lines of code into this bot im not changing now lol

theres 40 database interactions id have to change at this point

[royal wind]

Bro, I can feel that 💀

Though I am now revamping my code

[mighty pilot]

maybe later down the road i can change it up but right now ive got too much planned to start changing the entire structure ive got already

[royal wind]

This may seem silly, but I used to host my discord bot on repl.it. I just did import discord. Now that I'm hosting on my server (old desktop PC), I can't run import discord:

[hushed galleon]

repl.it has a feature that tries auto-installing third party packages based on the imports you write in your code

so for your server you'll have to manually install those packages

[royal wind]

I see

[mighty pilot]

you need to install any packages you use in your code to your pc

[royal wind]

I just did this on my PyCharm. However, it doesn't seem to do anything

It did download and install stuff, but I am still facing the same error

[hushed galleon]

have you set up a virtual environment for your project?

[hushed galleon]

hm thats a weird place to put your script

[royal wind]

Is it?

I don't really understand what even VENV mean, so I might get that wrong. Could you explain?

While I'm just getting started

[hushed galleon]

virtual environments let you run projects with their own dependencies (i.e. packages) rather than installing packages globally to your system interpreter

e.g. one project might use discord.py while another uses disnake, and installing them in their own virtual environments means they wont interfere each other

[royal wind]

Ok, I understand that part now.

[hushed galleon]

so in your case it seems you have a virtual environment created

[royal wind]

Right

[hushed galleon]

i forgot how it interacts with pycharm and its builtin terminal, but assuming you want your packages inside that virtual environment, the idea would be "activating" your virtual environment so that pip will install to it and for py/python to have access to it

this is off topic so a help channel would be more appropriate for continuing the discussion

[royal wind]

Ok, let's move there

If you don't mind helping me

[sick birch]

The pycharm terminal should have the venv activated by default

A surefire way would be to add packages through pycharm's UI

oh didn't notice yall moved

[royal wind]

Yeah, was suggested to move. Anyway, I think the error is fixed now that @hushed galleon helped me. Thanks

[amber ether]

how is it undefined

[jaunty musk]

Anyone know why this:
await message.channel.send(f'![logo](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/230438859752603650.webp?size=128 "logo")')

is giving me this:
:logo:

When trying to get my bot to use custom emoji's?

[amber ether]

wdym??

it will sednd the emoji

[jaunty musk]

its not...

[amber ether]

give ss

[amber ether]

try not putting f

maybe

[jaunty musk]

it has the right perms

[amber ether]

.

[jaunty musk]

Yea that just breaks the code

[amber ether]

yep i dont know lot about py bc im a js dev

Anyone

[chilly dove]

first your token is visible and you need to reset and second you are importing that as cs so cloudscraper is not a variable

[amber ether]

OH SH

i forgot

[chilly dove]

@jaunty musktry using this https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/api.html#discord.Client.get_emoji then use the is_usable method on it to make sure you can actually use it then you can string the instance to the get correct output that can be used in a message

[jaunty musk]

Now I'm dealing with this:
discord.errors.Forbidden: 403 Forbidden (error code: 50013): Missing Permissions

[chilly dove]

get_emoji shouldnt be returning that

[jaunty musk]

Oh I ended up just adding all the emoji's to my server itself just to not deal with custom emoji shit

[chilly dove]

well then without knowing that context of the forbidden error i cant help

[slate swan]

hello! i need help with this, im making a discord bot that allows you to talk as a member for fun from the terminal, to avoid tos, and a fun thing!
but i keep getting this 'str' error.

    await message()
TypeError: 'str' object is not callable```

code:

```py
@bot.command()
async def talk_enable(ctx):
    await ctx.reply("Successfully enabled! look in terminal :eyes:")
    await message()



async def message():
    xx = bot.get_channel(1031719193902592040)
    message = input("message: ")
    await xx.send(message)
    await message()

[jaunty musk]

  File "C:\Users\Gimmesamoa\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310\lib\site-packages\discord\client.py", line 409, in _run_event
    await coro(*args, **kwargs)
  File "Z:\Library\Projects\Code\freya\main.py", line 203, in on_raw_reaction_remove
    await payload.member.remove_roles(role)
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'remove_roles'```

[sick birch]

you'd still be breaking ToS

aside from that, input() is blocking so it's not a good idea to use it in your bot

and from what i'm hearing the asynchronous solutions are pretty janky

[slate swan]

yes i know, i was gonna do another solution, by using it in cogs because its alot cleaner, and better.

[sick birch]

it's still not going to be an ideal solution

[sick birch]

payload.member was not found for whatever reason

Might be an intents issue

[jaunty musk]

Would it be cool for me to post my entire code here? I'm just not really sure what to do. 😅

[sick birch]

No need, the issue is right there

[slate swan]

so how do i go around from that?

[sick birch]

that's up to you. You could make a command where users can broadcast their messages from one channel to another, e.g
!say #another-channel <message>

[hushed galleon]

@jaunty musk see the disclaimer for payload.member in the documentation:

!d discord.RawReactionActionEvent.member

[unkempt canyon]

discord.RawReactionActionEvent.member

The member who added the reaction. Only available if event_type is REACTION_ADD and the reaction is inside a guild.

New in version 1.3.

[jaunty musk]

What's a guild? This stuff is kinda confusing o.O

[hushed galleon]

a synonym for a discord server, you'll see it used often in discord bot development

[sick birch]

"server" has a different meaning when it comes to developing so they call it a "guild" to avoid confusion

[jaunty musk]

alright, sooo what should I be looking for... heh

[sick birch]

Only available if event_type is REACTION_ADD and the reaction is inside a guild.
Perhaps the reaction is coming from a DM?

[hushed galleon]

Only available if event_type is REACTION_ADD ...
given that you're using an on_raw_reaction_remove event, the payload wont have this reaction_add type which means member will always be None

[sick birch]

i believe the error is in on_raw_reaction_add

[hushed galleon]

the traceback says otherwise

[sick birch]

looks like they've already accounted for it by not using payload.member in on_raw_reaction_remove

ahh

[hushed galleon]

actually good point, the code seems to be outdated

[sick birch]

i saw

await payload.member.remove_roles(role)

and looked at the on_raw_reaction_add, my bad :p

though I don't see await payload.member.remove_roles(role) on line 203 though

[jaunty musk]

is there some better code to use 😬

[hushed galleon]

i assume that for-loop was your attempt at fixing the bug?

instead of that, you can fetch the member object from the guild instead

[jaunty musk]

honestly im just trying to hack some shit together tbh. It's hard to find updated python code for this imho. I'm not the best coder in the world

im a systems guy, not a coder haha

[royal wind]

This is my discord bot life LMAO. That's why my code looked like mummies

[hushed galleon]

e.g. py guild = bot.get_guild(payload.guild_id) member = await guild.fetch_member(payload.user_id) await member.remove_roles(...)

[sick birch]

simple solution: delete the whole thing and re-write it in rust ||/s||

[jaunty musk]

o.O

[limber pagoda]

/s = sarcasm?

[jaunty musk]

lol I kinda rely on Github Copilot. I'm dyslexic af so I'm super garbage at writing code.

[hushed galleon]

what have other people's experiences been with using copilot for discord bots/API?

[sick birch]

if i'm to guess it probably regurgitates shitty code it found off random github repos and youtube tutorials

[chilly dove]

uhh bot.fetch_member isnt a thing and shouldnt be using fetch if you can help it

[hushed galleon]

right, guild.fetch_member

its a bit of a necessity if the cache doesnt contain the member

[chilly dove]

why wouldnt the cache contain the member?

[jaunty musk]

so im trying to figure out how I should write this cause I'm a bit confused.

async def on_raw_reaction_remove(payload):
    if eligible_for_action(payload):
        role = interpret_emoji(payload)
        if role == None:
            return
        for member in client.get_all_members():
            if member.id == payload.user_id:
                user = member
        await user.remove_roles(role)
        print(
            f"The user {user.name} was removed from the role {role.name}")```

[sick birch]

you only need bot here

the others are for oauth apps

[jaunty musk]

so how should I add this?

[hushed galleon]

yknow what, i cant actually recall any source describing that the member cache can definitively leave out members from the cache, and i dont work with a large bot so i cant tell if there's a difference with the cache at scale

[chilly dove]

i think when you are working with large guilds then some members can not be in the cache but you should always do a check in the cache first before using a api call

[hushed galleon]

well itd be in your on_raw_reaction_remove event, replacing the code you have that's setting the user variable

if only discord.py had a getch method :(

[jaunty musk]

async def on_raw_reaction_remove(payload):
    if eligible_for_action(payload):
        role = interpret_emoji(payload)
        if role == None:
            return
        for member in client.get_all_members():
            if member.id == payload.user_id:
                guild = bot.get_guild(payload.guild_id)
                member = await guild.fetch_member(payload.user_id)
        await member.remove_roles(role)
        print(
            f"The user {member.name} was removed from the role {role.name}")```

So like that?

[hushed galleon]

er no, you're mixing up the two solutions

[jaunty musk]

😅

[royal wind]

I heard there's an update for discord intents, anyone knows what's suitable for my code:

[hushed galleon]

the goal is getting the Member object corresponding to the person that removed their reaction so you can call remove_roles on them

[hushed galleon]

this example does entirely that in two lines, so there's no need to have a for-loop going through every user

[hushed galleon]

usually the default intents + message_content (since you're using commands.Bot) is sufficient

depending on what your bot does, you might need members and/or presences enabled too

[chilly dove]

you must pass in intents as of 2.0 https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/migrating.html#intents-are-now-required

[jaunty musk]

async def on_raw_reaction_remove(payload):
    if eligible_for_action(payload):
        role = interpret_emoji(payload)
        if role == None:
            return
        guild = bot.get_guild(payload.guild_id)
        member = await guild.fetch_member(payload.user_id)
        await member.remove_roles(role)
        print(
            f"The user {member.name} was removed from the role {role.name}")```

Is this closer? Sorry, this is not my strong suit. 😛

[royal wind]

It's using discord clients, i'm not using that

[hushed galleon]

yup that looks about right

commands.Bot is a subclass of discord.Client, so their example still applies

[jaunty musk]

should I use client.get_guild instead?
client = discord.Client(intents=intents)

[chilly dove]

applies to ALL

[royal wind]

Can I do this this way instead?

[sick birch]

not if you want message contents

[jaunty musk]

again, I'm dyslexic, not the best at understanding words and shit.

[sick birch]

not sure if the factory method accepts arguments

[royal wind]

I'm confused now. How should I do it? It used to not be like this

[chilly dove]

yup that gets you the default with the exception of the privileged ones

[hushed galleon]

thats how you defined your client so sure, that would replace bot

[jaunty musk]

kk thought so

[royal wind]

So how should I fix it to avoid the privileged message content intent missing?

[sick birch]

Yeah intents have become required in 2.0 to get users to actively think about their intents and deciding rather than letting the bot do it for them

intents = discord.Intents.default()
intents.message_content = True # important

client = discord.Client(intents=intents)

You should also enable it in your dev portal

[chilly dove]

if you want you can do Intents.all()

[jaunty musk]

...

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Users\Gimmesamoa\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310\lib\site-packages\discord\client.py", line 409, in _run_event
    await coro(*args, **kwargs)
  File "Z:\Library\Projects\Code\freya\main.py", line 189, in on_raw_reaction_add
    await payload.member.add_roles(role)
  File "C:\Users\Gimmesamoa\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310\lib\site-packages\discord\member.py", line 1014, in add_roles
    await req(guild_id, user_id, role.id, reason=reason)
  File "C:\Users\Gimmesamoa\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310\lib\site-packages\discord\http.py", line 738, in request     
    raise Forbidden(response, data)
discord.errors.Forbidden: 403 Forbidden (error code: 50013): Missing Permissions
2022-10-20 23:18:37 ERROR    discord.client Ignoring exception in on_raw_reaction_remove
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\Users\Gimmesamoa\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310\lib\site-packages\discord\client.py", line 409, in _run_event   
    await coro(*args, **kwargs)
  File "Z:\Library\Projects\Code\freya\main.py", line 202, in on_raw_reaction_remove
    await member.remove_roles(role)
  File "C:\Users\Gimmesamoa\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310\lib\site-packages\discord\member.py", line 1059, in remove_roles
    await req(guild_id, user_id, role.id, reason=reason)
  File "C:\Users\Gimmesamoa\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python310\lib\site-packages\discord\http.py", line 738, in request        
    raise Forbidden(response, data)
discord.errors.Forbidden: 403 Forbidden (error code: 50013): Missing Permissions```

[royal wind]

Where

[sick birch]

Bot

[royal wind]

Found it, thank you

[hushed galleon]

apparently the bot doesnt have permissions to add the role to whoever added the reaction

[jaunty musk]

That I can't figure out then... it has administer as well as all the other stuff

[royal wind]

Thank you it's online now.

[hushed galleon]

who's reacting, you? what role is it adding, and is that role above or below the bot's role?

oh and if its you, are you the server owner

[jaunty musk]

oh man

I think it was cause the role was at the bottom of the list

🙄

moved it up towards the top and it works now haha

[hushed galleon]

the bot's role was at the bottom? that would make sense

[jaunty musk]

yea, didn't know that it needed to be higher

makes sense tho

[hushed galleon]

robin with the sacred power of using reactions in #discord-bots >.>

[hushed galleon]

my last occurrence has been with someone asking for help with copilot-generated aiohttp code that made a request to a "/v10/users/@me/library" endpoint, mistakenly thought it was a user-account endpoint until i realized it probably doesnt exist

[vast gale]

i think it used to exist

i'm curious, why did you choose to switch back to discord.py?

[hushed galleon]

fanboyism

[royal wind]

@hushed galleon Also, remember when I said it took a long time? I did this, and I noticed it took a LONG time from Importing modules to Modules imported successfully

[vast gale]

ah :^)

something which is basically impossible to develop against

wasn't sure if it was something we could change lol

[royal wind]

I have a question about discord bot + database (finally). First, do I need a dedicated Database cog to handle all the tasks? Say I have another cog file (level.py) that will communicate with database. In this instance, should I give the task over to independent database.py or just handle it inside level.py?

[sick birch]

The way I'd do it, is you will eventually have more than one cog using the database, yes?

So i'd extract all database functionality into it's own file

Properly typed and documented

[amber ether]

Guys why is it giving me this error? its already defined.

[royal wind]

Right, so let's say I have level.py where it's now time to increment ACCOUNT_XP by 3. If I were to distribute the database scripts, I would just do the script there, with many cog files importing sqlite3 module. But in this situation, since everything will be handled with database_manager.py, how do I write it inside level.py to tell it to use some modules in database_manager.py? Should database_manager.py even be a cog file or just normal Python file which will be imported by each individual module?

[sick birch]

why are those crossed out? it'd be very helpful to know which variables are not defined

[amber ether]

its a package that i crossed out

i cant show it

[sick birch]

Right, so let's say I have level.py where it's now time to increment ACCOUNT_XP by 3
In my database.py file, I'd have this:

def increment_xp(user_id: int, xp: int) -> int:
  """ Increments a user's XP points in the database and returns the new XP """
  raise NotImplementedError

[royal wind]

So inside level.py, when it's time to call the increment_xp function, how would it do it?

[maiden fable]

Damn, what an important and complex piece of code

[sick birch]

Just increment_xp(ctx.author.id, 3), for instance

[sick birch]

oh shut up you

[royal wind]

This would mean I have to import database_manager right on the level.py file?

[sick birch]

sure but that's not really an issue

[maiden fable]

You're Welcome 😄

[sick birch]

your*

[royal wind]

Oh, so the database isn't always active. When that increment_xp function is called, then the database_manager.py will access the database.db and make the modification then exiting?

[maiden fable]

You are*

[sick birch]

You might want to make it so that you have a database class that manages it's own internal connection objects

[royal wind]

Could you elaborate more?

So the database_manager.py that has increment_xp() function will call another module/function?

[sick birch]

can I assume aiosqlite for the sake of brevity?

[royal wind]

If they're conceptually the same (only different syntax)

[sick birch]

yup

[royal wind]

Because I fear I might just gonna get confused.

[royal wind]

Ok, that's fine.

[sick birch]

so you'll probably just create the connection object in your setup_hook or equivalent, pass it into your Database class, which resides in the database_manager.py

[royal wind]

Wait wait, so in python, one .py file isn't a class on its own?

[chilly dove]

@royal windyou can also make it an extension and when the extension is loaded you add a db attribute to the bot instance which can contain a instance of a db class then you can run any function anywhere you have access to bot

[royal wind]

I am completely lost with this suggestion. What do you mean by extension?

[sick birch]

class MyBot(commands.Bot):
  ...
  async def setup_hook(self) -> None:
    connection = await aiosqlite.connect(...)
    self.database_manager = DatabaseManager(connection=connection)

database_manager.py

class DatabaseManager:
  def __init__(self, *, connection: aiosqlite.Connection):
    self.connection = connection
  async def increment_xp(user_id: int, xp: int) -> int:
    # update database using `self.connect` here

@royal wind I know that might be a little bit, take your time to process it

[amber ether]

Anyone please

[chilly dove]

extensions are separate files that you can load into a bot which extends functionality of it

https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ext/commands/extensions.html

[royal wind]

I am trying to understand it right now

[chilly dove]

look at this for an example

[sick birch]

Not sure about this one. You want to be able to hot-reload extensions whenever, but you don't want to keep making new database connections

[royal wind]

That sounds like cogs.

[sick birch]

The two are very closely tied

An extension is a collection of cogs

[royal wind]

Ah

[sick birch]

Though I'm not sure if it's the best for this usecase

[sick birch]

This is the most common method I see or the one that makes the most sense

[royal wind]

While we're on the topic of cogs, is it okay if I were to use cog files to separate functionality (e.g. level.py is a cog file, economy.py is a cog file, etc)?

[sick birch]

yup that's how it should be

[royal wind]

Ok, just making sure I use it properly.

[chilly dove]

eh you probably right not the best thing to do

[royal wind]

Ok, I've taken my time, and I have several questions:

1. What is class MyBot? Is that your main.py?
2. In this case database_manager.py is not a cog file, correct?
3. Since I will be controlling the logic for XP in level.py, on the line where I would increment the XP, how should I tie it together with these?

[flat pier]

have you imported bloxflippredictor

[amber ether]

nvm

i did from {package} import * then i did import {package}

[sick birch]

1. class MyBot is an extension of discord.Client, so it's client at the core but with a few things tacked on (e.g our setup hook). And yes, it's in the main.py. It replaces client = discord.Client(...) with client = MyBot(...) (sorry bad naming)
2. No, database_manager.py is it's own helper file. Not a cog.
3. Let's say you have an on message in a cog:

class Levelling(commands.Cog):
  def __init__(self, bot: MyBot) -> None:
    self.bot = bot
    self.database_manager = bot.database_manager

  @commands.Cog.listener()
  async def on_message(message: discord.Message) -> None:
    xp_gained: int = ... # let's say this is how much XP the user should gain
    new_xp = await self.database_manager.increment_xp(message.author.id, xp_gained)
    await message.channel.send(f"Hey, {message.author.mention}! You now have {new_xp} XP!")

Once again, take your time to understand it and let me know with any questions you may have

The great thing about this approach is all your database stuff is in one file

So if you ever need to change how anything related to your database works, you don't need to hunt down every time you change the database in every command and cog and change it

This is a fundamental concept of creating good, clean, maintainable code

[dull terrace]

It's costing me 4c in adverts to get one new user for my bot if 1 in 300 people subscribe to my patreon for two months on average I'll earn my money back, think it's doable?

[sick birch]

That depends on your bot really, so only you can be the judge of that

[royal wind]

Yes, which is what I really want to do. Clean, organized, and avoiding spaghetti as much as possible. I'm still trying to understand it

[sick birch]

Quality of the bot, and I don't just mean how many cool features it has, while that is a part of it

[dull terrace]

It's a game bot which has higher subscribe rates but idk if it has the longevity to keep people hooked long enough

[sick birch]

Take your time. I'd rather you understand it fully

[flat pier]

people will love anything that doesn't have stupid updates that change what the user liked (unless it was broken)

[dull terrace]

I literally just made an update to it

The update has doubled retention rates so far though, people are playing twice as long and coming back twice as much

[flat pier]

im not saying dont make updates, just dont do what some bots do and rewrite it for no reason and end up with a completely different bot from what the previous user base enjoyed, updates a great 👍 (should've worded this better but meh my brain is fried so sorry about that lmao)

[dull terrace]

I was exploring some other bots recently and the most crazy thing is the amount that have 100 slash commands

Impossible to tell what you're even supposed to do

[royal wind]

1. For this to happen, inside this Levelling.py, you must do import database_manager.py, right?
2. Since you said MyBot class is an extension of discord.Client, the fact that you have that means you modify it. Do you just slap class MyBot(commands.Bot) line along with everything nested in it into your main.py? If the answer is yes, that means you're either defining non-defined setup_hook function or you're overriding the default setup_hook function. Is this assumption correct?
3. Does the class name have to be MyBot? Is that something Discord determined or that's just something you come up with?

[flat pier]

usually they start off with a tutorial or something to make it easier to get into but yea i get that its like trying to use dank memer when you've never touched a discord bot sometimes tbh

[dull terrace]

I'm not gonna say which, but one bot had tons of commands and then I did /help and it sent me three pages of embeds to read

[sick birch]

1. ☑️
2. You're right, you're overriding the default setup hook. This is how the internal discord.py default setup hook looks like:

 async def setup_hook(self) -> None:
        pass

3. MyBot is something I came up with

https://github.com/Rapptz/discord.py/blob/master/discord/client.py#L524-L544

Those are the lines of interest

It's basically just a bunch of documentation and a pass

[royal wind]

Right, which means code-wise, it does not do anything.

[sick birch]

exactly

it's the user's job to override it with anything useful

[royal wind]

Now my next question is.

Unless you somehow specify that you have this class called MyBot or something I can call like CustomSetupHook since it's just random naming, how can you tell the system that this is meant to override that? or is it intelligent enough to tell since the name of the function setup_hook is the same?

[sick birch]

Actually the name of the class can be whatever you want. The actual method name, setup_hook, has to be the same

If it's anything else Python will think it's just some function you came up with, not an override

[royal wind]

Right, okay I understand. So since this is in your main.py, then at some lines, you have to invoke this class too right?

[sick birch]

There is another method where you can use setuphook (which doesn't have to be called that) and not use a subclass though i don't recommend it:

client = discord.Client(...)
async def custom_name_setup_hook() -> None:
  ...
client.setup_hook = custom_name_setup_hook

[sick birch]

yes, it's similar to doing client = discord.Client(...) but you'd instead do client = MyClient(...) or whatever you called the class

[royal wind]

Mine is setup this way. since someone says Bot inherits client, then I should still be able to do it

[sick birch]

If you did

class MyBot(commands.Bot):
  ...

MyBot would inherit commands.Bot which inherits discord.Client.. weird, right?

But it works! And it's good!

[sick birch]

You could replace this with something like

class MyBot(commands.Bot):
  def __init__(self) -> None:
    intents = discord.Intents.default()
    intents.message_content = True
    super().__init__(command_prefix="!", intents=intents)

[royal wind]

OH right. My brain. My brain is still used to Java, so I thought we're passing commands.Bot parameter

[sick birch]

Ahaha, nah. We're just subclassing it

Or "inheriting" it for you java folks

[royal wind]

IF I use it this way...

[shut rock]

how do you add custom server emotes in embed?

i totally forgot

[royal wind]

Doesn't it mean my main.py will consist of import lines, the class MyBot and its content, and that's it?

But wait no. I need to find a way to invoke that class and execute it

[sick birch]

# import lines here

class MyBot(commands.Bot):
  ...

bot = MyBot()
bot.run()

simple as that

[royal wind]

I think I am a bit confused on Java vs Python right now. The class system is a bit weird. In Java, as far as I understand, MainClass.java will have one class

But in Python, it seems that main.py can have multiple classes

[sick birch]

Not just main.py

You can have many classes in any one file

[royal wind]

Oh yeah yeah

I just happened to take "main" as an example of file name

[shut rock]

can i get help 😭

[sick birch]

Yup. In our case though we still only have one class per file

[royal wind]

Good clarification though to make sure it's proper concept

[royal wind]

Oh, I know the answer to this

[shut rock]

i forgot

i don't exactly remember how

[royal wind]

replace 'Cash' with the name of the emoji

[sick birch]

This is actually relevant with respect to extensions - one extension (a .py file) can contain multiple related cogs (ideally), that you can hot-reload at will

[shut rock]

yes but it needs to be in an embed

[royal wind]

Since you have the object containing the custom emoji, can't you just put it normally?

[shut rock]

i'm going to find that out

i'm using hikari so it's a bit different

[royal wind]

I don't think I have personally done it with embed, but I imagine it would be relatively straight forward. What is even hikari when I'm still strugglign with Python lmao

[shut rock]

Unresolved attribute reference 'emojis' for class 'BotApp'

[sick birch]

Yeah it's going to be wildly different in hikari

[shut rock]

yeah

that's what i'm struggling with

[royal wind]

1 .py file contain multiple related cogs. In other words, one cog file (level.py), contain multiple cogs inside??? I'm not following that

[flat pier]

going off naming alone i assume client has no emotes, you'd still need a guild object to access that data

[sick birch]

I'm trying to think of an example. More times than not you won't need multiple classes per file. What I mean is that one extension (level.py) (the differentiation is important) can contain multiple cog classes

[shut rock]

yeah i can't find it anywhere in the hikari discord server

i know how to do it in normal discord.py just not hikari

[royal wind]

COG refers to a class that handles specific task for Discord bot.

filename.py (aka python file) is referred to as extension?

or it's still a python file, but acts as an extension?

[flat pier]

https://www.hikari-py.dev/hikari/index.html i'd try searching the docs rather then the server

[sick birch]

A cog is a collection of commands and events
An extension is a collection of cogs. It's also just a python file

[sick birch]

spot on

[royal wind]

An extension is a Python file that contains a collection of cogs.
A cog is a collection of commands or event handlers.

economy.py is an extension.
class Economy is a cog. This is because it contains several collections of commands and event handlers (e.g. async def balance(), async def withdraw(), async def deposit())

[sick birch]

you hit the nail on the head once again, my friend

[royal wind]

Ok, that makes more sense now

So main.py is not an extension because it doesn't contain a collection of cogs, right?

[shut rock]

nobody answering 😭

plus the doc is confusing, i don't think there is one for emotes anyways

[sick birch]

Well an extension, conceptually, is a collection of cogs (or just one). But discord.py doesn't know that - so technically a cog is a python file with an async def setup(bot): function

Again the distinction is important

We're only worried about it conceptually

discord.py is worried about it technically

[sick birch]

Unfortunately Hikari users are far and few between, so support is a bit thin. I'm afraid it may take a while

[royal wind]

I don't see async def setup(bot) function on my main.py. Unless, whatever I am about to write here inside main.py is considered one.

EDIT: That's not even async def.

[shut rock]

yeah there's a bunch of people in here who know hikari so i'll just have to wait

[sick birch]

a setup function is what makes a regular python file an extension

without it discord.py will panic

well, panic in a reasonable manner. it'll tell you the file doesn't have an async def bot method

your main.py isn't an extension - it shouldn't. doesn't make much sense for it to be one

[shut rock]

do you know anyone who know's hikari? or should i just keep opening help channels

[sick birch]

None, sorry. Best bet is to open a help channel and wait

Or try your hand at the docs

[tacit storm]

If you already have a GatewayGuild object, you can call the function fetch_emojis which will return a sequence (or list) of KnownCustomEmojis (All emojis the server has) https://www.hikari-py.dev/hikari/guilds.html#hikari.guilds.PartialGuild.fetch_emoji https://www.hikari-py.dev/hikari/emojis.html#hikari.emojis.KnownCustomEmoji

using that returned Sequence/list, you can iterate through them

This is all assuming you have a GatewayGuild object already, if not use bot.rest.fetch_guild(guildid) to get one. https://www.hikari-py.dev/hikari/api/rest.html#hikari.api.rest.RESTClient.fetch_guild

I recommend going to the hikari support server for more questions like this as they will be able to help you better and more in depth and will also be able to explain the docs properly.

[sick birch]

Anyway @royal wind, I'm off for the night. If you've got any questions please do feel free to ping me and I'll answer them in the morning. Cheers 😄

[royal wind]

Right, so my understanding of it being not an extension is correct.

[royal wind]

Thank you! I probably will. Writing the code to avoid as much spaghetti and using proper convention and clean is hard as hell

[shut rock]

i hate the docs

SO MUCH

[tacit storm]

same they get confusing at times

[shut rock]

they're so confusing

i know it's a simple piece of code

[slate swan]

yo can anyone help me

i am just wondering why my bot doesnt send the embed i have done nothing wrong in the code

[slate swan]

can you help me?

[amber ether]

why am i getting missing access?

[slate swan]

@frigid trellis can you help me?

!codeblock

[unkempt canyon]

Here's how to format Python code on Discord:

```py
print('Hello world!')
```

These are backticks, not quotes. Check this out if you can't find the backtick key.

[chilly dove]

@slate swancan you show where you create the embed instance and where you send it?

[slate swan]

why?

i create the embed using python in vscode

[chilly dove]

well i will kinda need to see the code to know whats wrong

[slate swan]

ohhhh

ok

dm me

from cgi import test
from math import degrees
from multiprocessing.sharedctypes import Value
import site
import discord
import http
from discord.ext import commands

bot = commands.Bot(command_prefix="!", intents=discord.Intents.all())

@bot.event
async def on_ready():

test_channel = bot.get_channel(1032312979594682491)
await test_channel.send('Hello')

@bot.event
async def on_disconnect():
test_channel = bot.get_channel(1032312979594682491)
await test_channel.send('Hello')

@bot.event
async def on_message(message):

if message.content == "What day is it?":
    test_channel = bot.get_channel(1032312979594682491)
    await test_channel.send("The day is the 21th")

if message.content == "Thank you for telling me!":
    test_channel = bot.get_channel(1032312979594682491)
    await test_channel.send("No Problem AnyTime :)")

    myembed = discord.Embed(title="Splunk", description="The bot is running", color=0x00ff00)
    myembed.add_field(name="Site", value="v1.0.0", inline=False)
    myembed.add_field(name="Date released", value="october 21th, 2022", inline=True)
    myembed.set_footer(text="This is a sample footer")
    myembed.set_author(name="Splunk")

bot.run('')

[amber ether]

Why am i getting Missing Access?

[slate swan]

like nothings wrong but i the embed wont be send

to the server

[amber ether]

..

bc u didnt send the embed

[slate swan]

ik

but how do i do that

[amber ether]

jeez your bot is messed up

await ctx.send(embed=myembed)

[slate swan]

how sit messed up

[slate swan]

where do i put that

nvm

but whys it yellow under ctx

[amber ether]

After u said myebed.set_author(name="Splunk")

[slate swan]

yea ik but whys my ctx yelllow

[amber ether]

????????????????????????

[slate swan]

yea see this

[amber ether]

just try and run the bot

[slate swan]

ok

[slate swan]

but it still doesnt send my embed

[amber ether]

bc u didnt create a command

thats why i told u ur code is messed up

[slate swan]

ohhhhhhhhhh i am watching yt vid so thast prob why

and how do i make an command of what

see @amber ether name 'ctx' is not defined

nvm someone helped me fix it

ty

[chilly dove]

@amber ethermissing access? are you getting a error?

[amber ether]

yeah thats my error

[amber ether]

prob watch more tut

Earlier it was working now my bot is not turning on, getting missing access, cant use slash

[chilly dove]

can i see the traceback?

[amber ether]

i cant bc i closed vscode for some reason

[chilly dove]

well then idk without more context to the issue nothing i can help with

[amber ether]

man fu

[chilly dove]

missing access could mean a variety of different issues without context there is nothing to do but speculate

[amber ether]

Even a Verified bot cant use Slash wtf

[chilly dove]

@amber etherare you sure that first the bot has the required permissions within the server and second that you are syncing the commands?

[amber ether]

yes!!

I even used a alt to add AdminBot

[chilly dove]

can you send one of the commands here including the decorator

[amber ether]

when i change application off then on again

its shows for 1 second and after that gone????/

WTF weird

[chilly dove]

well once commands are synced it shouldnt matter if the bot is on or not should always show the command in the list

i would double check permissions as if both the bots are not showing up any commands there is something weird going on there

[amber ether]

but when i use JS it all works perfectly fine without errors

[chilly dove]

does the error happen when you sync?

[amber ether]

ig yea

[chilly dove]

can i see full trackback?

[amber ether]

Dms

[amber ether]

Slash command not showing?

[amber ether]

OFC

[vale wing]

Raise the exception and give full traceback

Also you should really learn about cogs

[vale wing]

What lib

[amber ether]

nvm

[obtuse blaze]

sry for ping, is there any guide on how to set up this?

[slate swan]

I think you can make something for bot to ignore itself or just make a ignore message count for bot

[blazing star]

async def streaming(ctx):
    await ctx.channel.send('What would you like to stream?')
    status = await bot.wait_for('message', check=lambda x: x.author == ctx.author)
    stream = discord.Streaming(
        name=status.content,
        url=''
    )
    await ctx.send('Streaming: ' + status.content)
    await bot.change_presence(activity=stream)``` it doesnt change the activity

[rugged shadow]

i think it's because you didn't set a url param

you have to put in a valid url

[zealous jay]

Why do I keep getting "unclosed client session" in my console

Could this be related to my bot getting ratelimited for some reason?

[brazen raft]

What's the traceback