ot0-no-stealth-portals-please

[deep heath]

Yes. And I said why were contunuing the talk - because you continued it

[odd mural]

What do u want me apologising again?

[deep heath]

No

[odd mural]

Well we can't send links here how ur gonna get collabs on repos also

[golden lynx]

fgs?

[deep heath]

I just ask you not to continue the topic, at least for now

Changing topic to catto

[odd mural]

I'm going

[golden lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/panda-slide-cute-playing-gif-16649621

[sick olive]

wonderful

[royal jetty]

Cat pick are always good

What?

[golden lynx]

Nicky i recommend to drop the matter.

[deep heath]

You complained that were discussing your hiring over and over. I just said that you shouldn't continue the topic and people will eventually drop it.

[magic tendon]

Let's drop that topic indeed, please

[odd mural]

I'm sorry I won't continue that and keep in mind the rules and regulations

Dats it

End

[lofty cypress]

But youre free to share links to open source projects if you want to get collaborators or contributors

Ok thats it from me, moving on

[fast viper]

within reason. you cannot abuse that right.

[copper nimbus]

caht <3

[fast viper]

crossing over to spamming territory will get it shut down.

[golden lynx]

I agree with mariosis, it's also that people can see your own work and if the project has potential.

[golden lynx]

Obviously.

[lofty cypress]

I noticed people dont know how to sell up their project, they just drop a link and then leave

Thats not how you do that

[odd mural]

Well I do have a project

https://github.com/PineCode-Corp/AsCord

Here it is
Basically it is a pypi package to generate readymade discord bots and makes discord py development easy

I'm open to contributions

;)

[short oyster]

the worst is when their project README doesn't hype up the project either. You get like two lines saying what it does and that's it

like noooo, tell us what it does! Add pictures! Describe it! Code examples!

[odd mural]

It is a pypi package

And I release it todah

U can like have a look at it?

[copper nimbus]

Why have token as a parameter in the function header?

[olive wigeon]

Sorry for interrupting, but where can I ask for python code formatting tips since help channels are on cooldown for me and it doesn't feel all too practical to use a help channel for that?

[sick olive]

why are you asking for the bot name ? you should get it from the token

[copper nimbus]

!pep 8

[obtuse swallow]

**PEP 8 - Style Guide for Python Code**

Link

Status

Active

Created

05-Jul-2001

Type

Process

[sick olive]

cute

https://github.com/PineCode-Corp/AsCord/blob/main/ascord/ascordfuncs.py#L5

https://github.com/PineCode-Corp/AsCord/blob/main/ascord/ascordfuncs.py#L5-L10

[obtuse swallow]

ascord/ascordfuncs.py lines 5 to 10

# embed script
import discord
from discord.ext import commands

bot = commands.Bot(command_prefix = f"{c_prefix}")
# Generated using Astro Cord```

[sick olive]

why does it look like its commented for me

also whats the point of importing discord when you are making your own one ?

wait

are you making a bot ? or a fork

[rain cloud]

Hey

Any good VPN with yearly or one time payment (preferred)?

[sick olive]

one time payment i dont think so

[rain cloud]

My brother had one

[sick olive]

i had a nordvpn account i was subbed for a year , do you want it ?

i dont want anything in return i just don't use it

[tepid echo]

that's how it it supposed to be

[sick olive]

cuz of this

https://github.com/PineCode-Corp/AsCord/blob/main/ascord/ascordfuncs.py#L3-L6

[obtuse swallow]

ascord/ascordfuncs.py lines 3 to 6

def ncord(bot_name, c_prefix, token):
    script = f'''
# embed script
import discord```

[sick olive]

fix this

[copper nimbus]

what?

[quasi cape]

unclosedmultilinefstring

[copper nimbus]

just a comment

[sick olive]

i dont think it should be a comment

uh

maybe

[rain cloud]

Sure

[odd mural]

It's all working and Fully functional

The package

And I don't think we can get bot name using its token

[tepid echo]

dam

[odd mural]

@sick olive u can make any pull request if u want and I will have a look at it

And tnx I will see if I can get the bot name using the token

[sick olive]

sure , i can also contribute , i'll test it in a sec , studying physics

[sick olive]

also are you trying to make a fork ?

[odd mural]

Fork?

It's a pypi package which generates bot scripts

[sick olive]

ohh

[odd mural]

I'm trying to simplify discord.py development

[sick olive]

sure

fair

i think we can get rid of the dpy part

since we can make bare requests to the API itself

i'll discuss it in a sec

[odd mural]

Ya sure

[sick olive]

is this a comment ? , i also suggest adding doc strings and type hint stuff

https://github.com/PineCode-Corp/AsCord/blob/main/ascord/ascordfuncs.py#L61

[obtuse swallow]

ascord/ascordfuncs.py line 61

await self.client.change_presence(status = discord.Status.idle, activity=discord.Activity(type=discord.ActivityType.watching, name='Developed by Astro Inc. || m!help'))```

[sick olive]

too long , try making it

await self.client.change_presence(status = discord.Status.idle,
activity=discord.Activity(type=discord.ActivityType.watching,
name='Developed by Astro Inc. || m!help'))```

yk , unless you don't follow pep8

[odd mural]

Can u do a pr?

And remove that prefix I by mistake wrote that it seems

I will fix it tmr after school in the package as well

[sick olive]

pr ?

[odd mural]

Pull request

Actually I m not on the pc right now

[sick olive]

to the project ?

[odd mural]

Yes

[sick olive]

oh fair also idk how to use github much lmao sorry

[odd mural]

I would like contributions

[odd mural]

Well that's the same case here

But I'm pretty good at it now tbh

[sick olive]

1 sec , let me login

i wanted to learn but eh

[golden lynx]

Also the fact that you should not change presence inside an on_ready event.

[sick olive]

yeah

how do i create a pr lmao

[cursive agate]

:((

[odd mural]

Go to the repo and click on pull request

[odd mural]

New

New pull request

[sick olive]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/834110741506031677/899023664710819902/image0.gif

[thick widget]

a classic

[lofty cypress]

gifs or embedded videos

[serene dagger]

so my bf is a panda

[ocean walrus]

Wat

Oh lol

[pliant canyon]

lol

[lofty cypress]

:t:est

Is it just me or is this channel not updating

[deep heath]

what do you mean?

[solid prawn]

thats one way to say chat ded xd

[serene dagger]

xd

[deep heath]

both ot0 and ot2 were dead for ~15minutes

[quasi cape]

ot1 for an hour

[lofty cypress]

Ok it just updated, it was stuck on old messages

[prime mist]

Friends, is it possible to add Rich Text Toolbar to Emacs org-mode?

[sick olive]

instagram is so poorly coded it's actually unbelievable

[tepid echo]

do you just watch this kindaf vids all the time lmao

[thick widget]

what kind of vids

[tepid echo]

just this kind

[thick widget]

what is "this kind"

[tepid echo]

I asked you some time ago to send me "this kind" of vid

[thick widget]

lol

ye i do watch those kinds of vids a lot

nowadays

[ocean walrus]

What's a good tutorial for learning nasm

[sick olive]

uh

aboo :D

[ocean walrus]

Hm?

[sick olive]

do yk how i can send a pull request

[ocean walrus]

In github?

Well, if you have a fork

You'd click on the pull request tab of the repo

And then click the new pull request button

[sick olive]

yeah i was stuck here

[ocean walrus]

Do you have a fork

If so, do you see the compare across forks button?

Click that

And then select your repo

[sick olive]

@ocean walrus how long did it take you to learn rust

[ocean walrus]

Hm

A month or so to get the basics down

And to get through a decent bit of the book

[sinful frost]

is movl and movq same instructions

[chrome zinc]

mov i know is basically copying a value to another one

so maybe or maybe not

[toxic jay]

@river condor sup

wench

:3

[river condor]

You’re a wench

[toxic jay]

no im a wrench

[river condor]

Do I even wanna know what you mean by that?

[ocean walrus]

Hm

[toxic jay]

im being random smh

[river condor]

Sureee

[toxic jay]

its true smh my head

[sick olive]

is it hard?

[ocean walrus]

It has a learning curve, yes

One you get past the initial concept of borrowing/ownership though, it gets easier

[sick olive]

i don't even know what i would use rust for tbh

[ocean walrus]

Web dev, systems dev, concurrent programming

[sick olive]

i'll probably learn rust after golang

[sick olive]

what tasks do systems devs use rust for?

[royal jetty]

Update to people that know: They were hella mad and I'm going to take a extra classes :sad_and_bored:

[prime girder]

today was a good day

[ocean walrus]

Good

[sinful frost]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1658294/whats-the-purpose-of-the-lea-instruction

hmm interesting

[prime girder]

o no, x86

[tepid echo]

hello

[ruby trellis]

alright kids
i have been through hell and back.

learning to parse MP3 files.

[tepid echo]

interesting

with C

[limber scaffold]

good evening gamers

[onyx ice]

Hola señor

[glad grove]

Salutations

[eternal trail]

Greetings

[limber scaffold]

https://blog.cloudflare.com/sizing-up-post-quantum-signatures/

good blog post

[sick olive]

It's only noon, not evening in my TZ

[onyx ice]

It's 5 o'clock somewhere

[serene dagger]

2pm here nerds

[sinful frost]

too much assembly makes me wanna puke

and i still have lots of things to study

[sterile stump]

You have too much bile in your body

[sinful frost]

since now im in 3rd undergrad. i dont see algorithms etc. courses anymore

xd

i see worse courses like system programming, programming languages ( lex,yacc stuff)

[sterile stump]

Learn post quantum signatures

[sinful frost]

i wish there would be course on how to play video games

i would love that

[sterile stump]

There is

[sick olive]

@limber scaffold i see you use rust quite a lot on github, i'm thinking about learning it. what do companies mainly use it for/what is it used for in production?

[limber scaffold]

all sorts of things is the answers hahaha, it's great for fast services that you need to be performant, it's great for embedded platforms, it's a good alternative to C/C++ with a different memory model that is a bit more forgiving (and harder to segfault with)

discord use it in production for making things that need to be fast faster

they write systems in Elixir, another language, but where they need things to be really fast they actually have the elixir system communicate with a Rust system, use case they've written about is the member list on the right https://blog.discord.com/using-rust-to-scale-elixir-for-11-million-concurrent-users-c6f19fc029d3?gi=bbcea34516cb

[sick olive]

perfect explanation, thanks

i guess it's time to learn rust then

[lyric pivot]

Roses are red, violets are blue. Omae wa mou shindeiru.

[teal storm]

rust is guud :>

[dim flicker]

Smh, this is an English only speaking server. I expected better from a staff member

[onyx ice]

Oui oui. Ich hatte auch bessere Erwartungen. Maybe one day I'll stop being a disappointment to the people of PyDis. но сегодня не тот день

[ocean walrus]

Hi :D

[serene dagger]

oui oui gimme ciggy eiffel tower baguette

[ocean walrus]

Wat

[serene dagger]

im asking for a french cigarette

[ocean walrus]

Oh

Wat

[serene dagger]

?????????????

[ocean walrus]

?!?!?! @@##$$

:

[mystic mauve]

Man I wish shitcord would fix blocking

But I think Avery is aging in reverse

[ocean walrus]

You what

[mystic mauve]

At least I'm assuming that's just Avery with a new name

[ocean walrus]

Avery becoming younger??

[onyx ice]

nah thats Starcy

[ocean walrus]

Lmao

[barren cape]

I just joined to say python is bad

[ocean walrus]

Welcome

[onyx ice]

Cool

[mystic mauve]

I dunno man it seems all the people who act like that have the same profile pictures lol

[serene dagger]

true

[mystic mauve]

I only have like two people blocked and they keep changing their names and profiles

[onyx ice]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ocean walrus]

Didn't you block Avery

[mystic mauve]

Correct

[ocean walrus]

Aha I'm genius

[serene dagger]

imagine getting blocked for saying something about amongus

[onyx ice]

The latter

[ocean walrus]

I'm just too kind

[eternal trail]

no

[mystic mauve]

I block anyone who never contributes to conversations and causes problems

[eternal trail]

the former

[ocean walrus]

So I don't get blocked

[onyx ice]

It is ninety - four

[ocean walrus]

Lies

[mystic mauve]

Brad nine zero four

[ocean walrus]

It's both

[mystic mauve]

That's how I read it

[onyx ice]

lol

[ocean walrus]

90 4 Brad

[serene dagger]

yes a young one oh wait what year is it 💀

[onyx ice]

I reject your reality and substitute my own

[ocean walrus]

Amateurs

[sonic glacier]

i was about to say "hah oldd"

[ocean walrus]

Imagine not being every age at once

[serene dagger]

ive never got blocked by anyone that mattered ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[onyx ice]

🧓

[ocean walrus]

Lmao

[sonic glacier]

they mean different things

[ocean walrus]

Braeard

[serene dagger]

having 19 on your ID aint old ok

[onyx ice]

"(This) may be important as well." or Also, (this) may be important."

[sonic glacier]

are the other things definitely important

[ocean walrus]

Ep

[sonic glacier]

its not about the importance, it's about the certainty

[onyx ice]

I may or may not have a beard and enjoy making bread. I could open a business as:
Bearded Brad's Bread Bakery

[ocean walrus]

Genius

Brad's beard bakery

[sonic glacier]

Brad's Beard's Breard n Breakfast

[serene dagger]

is it a hot beard tho?

[ocean walrus]

Ofc

[onyx ice]

.bm future business reasons

[ocean walrus]

Brad's world wide business

Wat

[onyx ice]

My wife tends to think so, that's enough for me

[sonic glacier]

would you say that the other thing "may include" or that the other thing "definitely includes"?

[serene dagger]

i dont think i wanna eat breard tho

[limber scaffold]

hype

the official book is a great resource

rust by example is also cool once you've got stuff understood

[serene dagger]

based and beardpilled

[onyx ice]

...sure? I'm not hip with the lingo

[serene dagger]

.source I'm not hip with the lingo

[median swallow]

That was a mistake.

Your input was invalid: Unable to convert I'm not hip with the lingo to valid command or Cog.

Usage:```
.source [source_item]

[serene dagger]

[limber scaffold]

i trimmed my beard so i no longer look like ted kaczynski

[onyx ice]

Well now that cardboard cutout isn't going to make as much sense

[limber scaffold]

true... true...

[ocean walrus]

Lmfao

[sick olive]

about to start reading it now - thanks! 🙂

[ocean walrus]

The official rust book is nice yes

[serene dagger]

mmm i need to buy a beard

[ocean walrus]

My beard is several miles long

[serene dagger]

werent u 14?

[limber scaffold]

oh i think i have a before and after

hmmmmmm

let's see

[serene dagger]

impressive

[limber scaffold]

before

there is no good after

i will take one

or in infra-red

[onyx ice]

Same lanyard? Nice continuity

[limber scaffold]

ya lol i can barely get around without lanyard

access control for the win

need my lanyard to get dinner

[onyx ice]

This is me:

[limber scaffold]

people in the library are giving me great looks

[eternal trail]

okay but why do you need my soul

[onyx ice]

Well if you are giving them those kind of looks, sorta understandable

[limber scaffold]

lmfao

i have uhh

where did i put it

"a day in the life of an arch linux user"

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/886662163618484255/905961650501341254/unknown.png?width=1178&height=736

[stone gyro]

i sent you a screenshot please respond

[onyx ice]

But where's the rice

Gotta have some bspwm or i3 going on with an A E S T H E T I C theme

[limber scaffold]

lmfao

yeah

fuck CNN

hacker news is where it's at

if it wasn't for hackernews how would i know thta a spoonful of sugar helps the radioactive oatmeal go down

(dropping the shitposts, that is actually a great article https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/spoonful-sugar-helps-radioactive-oatmeal-go-down-180962424/ )

golang core team

sadly not

oh there was another really cool thing i saw on HN about phones giving websites access to accelerometer data

https://www.mysk.blog/2021/10/24/accelerometer-ios/

There also have been some research to develop novel accelerometer applications: estimating heart rate, breathing rate, or even as a rudimentary audio recorder using just the accelerometer.
like holy shit

[serene dagger]

yeah cereal has been sussy from the beginning of time

[limber scaffold]

the extended versions were wild as well

it's a great article, and that's why i read HN lol

[ocean walrus]

Spooky

[neat sparrow]

Computer Science project be like

Wish I could upload a selfie of myself here lol

but some people are creepy

So I tend not to upload personally identifying information. At least until I have a stable identity (non minor)

@limber scaffold I noticed that your laptop has an IR camera. Do you know of any good libraries to utilize them?

Asking cause I searched for some yesterday and they were for external IR devices

[hollow holly]

Not the ; o_O

[neat sparrow]

lol

Couldn't help it

[serene dagger]

wtf u pay the same for ketchup as fries

[neat sparrow]

There's some oil rice my dad made in the fridge

gonna heat some up with a chicken drumstick and a porkchop

Would slap with salad but that ran out

gonna crack open one piece and chill a bit after a long day of school

[serene dagger]

dammm hipster bait

[neat sparrow]

If you want organic food, come to Africa

The media makes it look like we don't have food and stuff, but we have more than enough

fucking media

If the media only showed the poor parts of the US, you can guess what the outlook would be like

[serene dagger]

dunno i have to be careful with laws n shit in half of the world which is fun 😩

[neat sparrow]

I think I might be atheist

idk

[onyx ice]

Maybe agnostic then

[neat sparrow]

yeah agnostic theist

[rain cloud]

Does someone live in Philipines?

[serene dagger]

i was atheist until i joined the cult that adores me as a god, no going back from there 😩

[neat sparrow]

like, I do not 100% believe in the existence of God

[limber scaffold]

no idea, I’m just using regular old mpv with /dev/video2

[neat sparrow]

I just can't

I wanted to create my own facial recognition thing for linux

when I found out that the IR camera could be used to map certain things like faces

I'll hit you up if I find anything @limber scaffold. Seems fascinating

hehe, even better if there is a Rust api

[serene dagger]

mmm yes the atheist religion that follows the teachings of the organization, the CEO is hatsune miku

[neat sparrow]

tbh I wouldn't even want to classify myself as anything

I don't like the titles

Nowhere in the bible do you hear about religion

[pale mesa]

why is there a ir camera on laptops

[neat sparrow]

facial recognition unlock

[pale mesa]

oh ye, that windows hello thing

[serene dagger]

my cheapass laptop camera has like 3 pixels no good for facial recognition 😩

[pale mesa]

i appreciate some philosophies from different religions but i dont follow any personally

[deep heath]

also depth recognition. it allows for virtual greenscreen by getting your distance

[neat sparrow]

Yeah I just stopped caring about hell after a certain point

It contradicts the merciful nature of God

[deep heath]

xbox kinect also uses IR camera for depth recognition

[serene dagger]

but hey cheap ass camera is a better filter than stuff from instagram so i'll take it

[neat sparrow]

not that I'm going to be a bad person. You should have good morals even without religion.

I heard once that some people would become bad people if they found out God wasn't real because then they have no moral compass to stick to. That would mean that they were never good people to begin with

[serene dagger]

just be as good as the rules allow for and if u want to be gooder than that change the rules ez

[pale mesa]

the only day i believe in god is the day before my exams

[neat sparrow]

lol

[pale mesa]

[neat sparrow]

fr

I better go heat up that food though I could eat an ass

[serene dagger]

thats not hunger

[neat sparrow]

wait shit, I don't want to get muted

I meant like, a baby donkey.

That's what I pictured in my mind before typing that

[serene dagger]

im the center of the universe thats based ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[neat sparrow]

What if every living thing is just an extension of the universe

zoom out far enough and you get an image that looks like the brain

[serene dagger]

no thats boring

im off to eat stickers bai

[neat sparrow]

Have you seen "The egg"

interesting story

What if I am every human on this earth, but in different incarnations, and until I live every single one of their lives, I can't become a god

So according to the egg theory, this is my universe

not that I believe it. Just an interesting story

lol

[onyx ice]

http://www.galactanet.com/oneoff/theegg_mod.html

Not a good idea

[neat sparrow]

I probably shouldn't talk about religion anywhere tbh

Some people are extreme af

Have you guys seen the video of that egyptian atheist who got kicked off of live tv without even finishing talking

[onyx ice]

Yeah, that's why its a thing to avoid talking about politics and religion unless you know people well

[neat sparrow]

politics is a no for me. dangerous af

[onyx ice]

Because some people are wild and fanatical about their beliefs

[neat sparrow]

Don't even mention politics

I've learned a thing or two about spilling political beliefs in the past year

some people have gotten killed because of it

I can envision the porkchop entering my mouth

[onyx ice]

And they will fight to be "correct"

There

[ocean walrus]

Hm

Hi :D

[pale mesa]

imagine having an authoritarian government and a nanny state so politics is boring asf in my country

literally just that one party dominating for the past 50 years

[neat sparrow]

damn

no democracy?

like, do the people vote for a representative?

[ocean walrus]

amateurs, imagine voting

[onyx ice]

You still have a few years

[pale mesa]

we are democratic ye, we vote, but everyone ends up voting for the same party

[neat sparrow]

In my country, voting was done online once. It went smoothly too

but there are too many old heads in the government these days

They are disconnected from the current generation

Like, me for instance, I don't give af about how lgbt people conduct themselves, but older people think it's some taboo

[ocean walrus]

Indeed

[deep heath]

I've seen this. I've seen it in some twitter thread about how some religious people go that 'if you're atheist, then nothing's stopping them from killing as much as you want'. OP wrote that they said "yeah, I kill how much I want, which is 0"

[neat sparrow]

I'm treading lightly in this convo. Only speaking on general things

hehe my hair grew back overnight

Olive oil is the best

[ocean walrus]

Salads are nice

[viral hull]

People who say things like that are essentially admitting that the only reason they don't kill is because they believe God will be mad, which seems... Unhinged.

[neat sparrow]

I add more salad than my main dish to my food

It literally overfills the plate

[ocean walrus]

Salad is good

[neat sparrow]

Sometimes, I'm so hungry that I eat it like a dog, no hands style

[ocean walrus]

Croutons are love

[lofty cypress]

Thats so flimsy

[ocean walrus]

I mean, it's a fair reason

[lofty cypress]

You dont need some guy, whether divine or not, to tell you that killing others is bad

Its not their mind, its what others programmed them to believe it is

[ocean walrus]

Hm,

[viral hull]

well, can they point to a religious text that says animal abuse is bad? And, if not - do they abuse animals?

[lofty cypress]

Theres no point arguing with religious people about this tbh

Not like they'd reconsider

[viral hull]

If they don't know whether their religious texts say animal abuse is bad, but they still choose not to abuse animals, it shows that they must have some understanding of morality independent of scripture

[neat sparrow]

oop, the convo has reached the red limit

[ocean walrus]

There are religions texts that say that yes

[neat sparrow]

What I think is that, religion should stay out of government legislative decisions and its principles should not be enforced on people. It should be left as a private thing

[lofty cypress]

Sadly thats not how religion grows hence religious people would be entirely against it

[ocean walrus]

Wouldn't moral values depend on where you were raised, and the society you live in

[neat sparrow]

Of course, people should know right from wrong, so I'm not referring to the ten commandments or any guidelines here

[stone gyro]

~~tax the hell out of the churches too 👀 ~~

[neat sparrow]

There's a religion that believes that dark skinned people are cursed

[ocean walrus]

If you were born into a society that wholeheartedly believed murder was right, then wouldn't you believe that too

[neat sparrow]

The way I laughed my ass off

nice take on that. I didn't think about it that way

[viral hull]

I'm not arguing whether everyone ought to agree on what is moral. There's plenty of room for disagreement there. I'm arguing that everyone ought to agree that someone who doesn't believe in their scripture can still behave morally.

[ocean walrus]

Ah OK

Yeah, that's true

[lofty cypress]

If religion is a big part of your identity maybe get a better set of character traits?

[frank musk]

yo,

Anyone interested in sentiment analysis, entity linking, wikidata knowledge graphs, named entity recognition!

I have an open source project I have been working on to build a CLI tool to scrape news articles and populate a sqlite database with entity mentions, sentiment and entity features pulled from wikidata.

Would love if people would try it out and give me some feedback or even contribute.

The goal is to build an easy to use CLI where you just need to extend it via implementation of a scraper class.

https://github.com/jordanparker6/newsreader

[ocean walrus]

What's wrong with religion being part of your identity

[lofty cypress]

big

[ocean walrus]

That's like, a main point of being religious

[lofty cypress]

Ofc its going to be part of it but if you cant go a minute without talking about it thats a problem

[viral hull]

implying that those who don't follow your religion must be immoral is a rhetorical technique that many religious fanatics use, and it is inherently harmful.

[onyx ice]

Those damn Pastafarians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster

[lofty cypress]

Its like vegans shouting about their veganism

[ocean walrus]

Pushing religion on people sucks yes

[lofty cypress]

Or well shudder arch users

[ocean walrus]

Yeah, being religious doesn't mean you should push people into it

[neat sparrow]

😂

[deep heath]

yep. that twitter thread ended with this realisation. I heard that 'argument' about only religion equaling morals before... but that "how much you want" phrase was what made me realise that such phrases are not ignorance but could be reflection

[neat sparrow]

y'all heard about the conspiracy theories about Travis Scott's concert being a satanic sacrifice ritual

[ocean walrus]

What

Lmfao

Well I'm out for now, bye :D

[neat sparrow]

I used to believe that stupid shit as a kid, but I've grown past that

[lofty cypress]

I walk away from people when they volunteer information about their religion because it always ends up them being judgmental and i got better things to do

[neat sparrow]

To each their own, just don't push your stuff onto me, is my motto

[rain cloud]

Um, can someone from india help me get a spotify account? thanks ^^

[neat sparrow]

mmmm meat is so good

[lofty cypress]

If my friend gave up a source of good protein for some arbitrary set of rules i'd be worried to be honest

[rain cloud]

Cant

[pale mesa]

that doesnt sound like modern satanism

[neat sparrow]

?

[rain cloud]

spotify got the vpns and i need a card from there (so i tried getting a paypal from there, but, oh wow, error)

[neat sparrow]

satanists don't even believe in God

[lofty cypress]

This discussion is still going on so i dont see why you think this

[deep heath]

"my god prohibits me from X"
vs
"my god prohibits YOU from X"

[neat sparrow]

discussion about religion isn't really "banned", it just sometimes gets too heated

[serene dagger]

my god prohibits you from believing in anything that isnt catgirl supremacy

[viral hull]

we don't ban it, but we do require that everyone remain respectful.

and it is a topic that often leads to people becoming rude and breaking the code of conduct.

[lofty cypress]

Python is a language for grown ups, if you cant be a grownup in offtopic too thats when theres a problem

What

[serene dagger]

lets be honest here catgirl is just a superior lifeform in every way

[neat sparrow]

@sick olive Don't worry, I think they were just mentioning that in general for everyone

[lofty cypress]

Wait what

[viral hull]

what's hypocritical about that?

[lofty cypress]

People changing their diets for no good reason is a bad thing

Why wouldnt i worry about my friends

It is, in my opinion

[neat sparrow]

I mean, it's kinda useless to give up certain foods because of religion, but if that's what they want to do, so be it

[jade wedge]

Well it's true

[lofty cypress]

An all powerful being judging you for what you eat all day doesnt click with me

Because i care about my friends? Im not talking about strangers lmao

[serene dagger]

idk i only have a problem with people enforcing gender roles and thus dumping expectations on my face because they have been normalized to their own life ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lofty cypress]

Except theres absolutely no reason to do any of that

Yea well lots of things are symbolic, doesnt mean you should do them

Back when i was in uni all my mulsim friends would not eat pork because of their religion but somehow smoking cigarettes and weed seemed ok with them

[serene dagger]

i see nothing wrong with this statement

[viral hull]

possibly, but not necessarily. There are religions that forbid eating certain foods under all circumstances - several religions forbid pork in all cases, others forbid beef. When it's your entire life, it's not symbolic.

[lofty cypress]

Just cause something is symbolic doesn't mean its good for you or that you should do it

[viral hull]

sure. Other people believed that a spaceship would come to take them to a new world as long as they drank some poison kool aid to leave their earthly body behind.

we should be able to agree, in principle, that beliefs can be harmful, even if they're truly held.

were we?

[serene dagger]

can i make a blanket statement that all beliefs that enforce gender roles bad?

[lofty cypress]

People drive nails through their palms because its symbolic

[viral hull]

I don't think anyone mentioned lent before now, and only you mentioned a time-limited sacrifice.

you literally just brought it up 🙂

[jade wedge]

What¿¿¿¿¿?????

[viral hull]

in any event, if we can agree that beliefs can be harmful, even if truly held, then it's reasonable to think that people should be allowed to be concerned for their friends over beliefs that seem harmful.

[lofty cypress]

My grandma is 80 years old and still fasts to this day because she thinks it'll make her a good christian even though she can barely get up in the morning, thats symbolism right?

[neat sparrow]

I stopped paying tithes

[jade wedge]

Hmm are you living in a jungle. Christians don't fast lol

[neat sparrow]

The money goes to the church, not to God, so why pay it

[viral hull]

Inappropriate.

remember our code of conduct, you absolutely cannot call other people stupid.

[neat sparrow]

Christians do fast

[jade wedge]

Let me change my langue

[lofty cypress]

Christians do fast lmao, what

[ruby trellis]

@visual helm behold. the reason why namespaces exist.

SYMBOLISM

[visual helm]

@ruby trellis ok that I cannot read

that looks insane

[jade wedge]

I don't and I am a christian lol

[ruby trellis]

lol that is like, 10% of the ncurses functions.

[lofty cypress]

Youre not all christians my guy

[ruby trellis]

ncurses defines like a billion fucking functions.

[short oyster]

you do understand that you don't represent all christians and sects of christianity, right?

[jade wedge]

Yes

[visual helm]

ncurses python package?

[ruby trellis]

it exists, but the Python package is like, WAYYYY more compressed.

[visual helm]

damn my neighbors be smokin...

[short oyster]

cool, so next time don't assume you do and say something incredibly disrespectful and rude and also wrong

[ruby trellis]

tbh i would not be surprised if some Christians fasted. Christianity has its roots in Judaism (obviously) and fasting is a pretty big there i believe, so i imagine it carried over in some places.

[deep heath]

my friends say that they once saw some Muslims in the park near dorms, praying in the evening. when they finished, one took beer from their bag and said "Allah doesn't see" (as it was past sundown, apparently?)

[lofty cypress]

Christians are supposed to fast, its not a minority thing

[ruby trellis]

what happens after sundown stays after sundown.

[visual helm]

I hate to jump into a convo middway, but some Christians definitely fast

[lofty cypress]

I dont even mention religion in that post

[ruby trellis]

well unfortunately Mariosis, consenting adults are allowed to do whatever the fuck they want. 🥴

because, you know, they should be able to.

[viral hull]

because it's respectfully expressing a personal opinion.

[lofty cypress]

Theres no reply attached to that post

Im making a general statement

[visual helm]

wonders if I want to know how all this started

[ruby trellis]

religion is not my thing but if somebody wants to fast and they are not being forced against their will to, why stop them?

[lofty cypress]

I literally never actually said that

[jade wedge]

But u meant that

[ruby trellis]

going up to them and saying 'Hey Bro Stop Fasting Rn Because I AM CONCERNED.' might come off as rude, for obvious reasons i think.

[lofty cypress]

You dont know what i meant cause you dont even know that christians fast

[viral hull]

can you quote that message, then? I don't see it.

[ruby trellis]

actually sorry no, religion is my thing. Dennis Ritchie.

[neat sparrow]

I zoomed out of the screen then realized how ridiculous this conversation looks from afar

[visual helm]

I know this OT, but conversation about religion amongst strangers never ends well

[deep heath]

that's actually an interesting difference between Christianity and Judaism+Islam... one just goes with fasting and doesn't mention anything. the other two have clear rules about health being more important than religious rules (there is a list of exceptions to fast, you can take meds with gelatin in it...)

[neat sparrow]

It won't go anywhere

[lofty cypress]

I wish i could just remember to not engage in religious conversation from the start

[stone gyro]

I have second-hand experience of a Muslim student who had no trouble with drinking throughout her student days. Reportedly, she claimed the Qu'ran says one must not drink wine, but says nothing about vodka.

[ruby trellis]

talking about religion is fun

[serene dagger]

my meds have sugar in it rip my fasts

[jade wedge]

Well leave now

[lofty cypress]

Are there any other beliefs about religion i could express lmao?

You yourself said its a personal belief

Everything is a personal belief

[visual helm]

!ssh

[lofty cypress]

Also im not going out preaching about this lmao

[ruby trellis]

not in a million years, bro.

[lofty cypress]

I couldnt care less what you eat or drink

Im talking about my friends and family

[ruby trellis]

what about them?

are you concerned about your family not getting the health benefits they need?

[lofty cypress]

If they picked up some strict religion that had a diet plan attached then i would be worried

[visual helm]

@lofty cypress It isn't a diet plan, it isn't meant to be done all the time

[lofty cypress]

Doesnt matter if its meant to be all the time

[deep heath]

I interpreted it as person just converting and dropping something from their diet the next day. hence "gave up" and a friend, and being worried about them.
if someone does their research and have good reasons to change their diet (know why they're doing it and how to do it safely!), then ok. if they just drop something "because X told me to" (where X can be religion but also a person), it's really worrisome.
there are a lot of people who non-religiously become vegan, it's the same - if they do it without research and reason, it's worrisome

[neat sparrow]

A lot of these yearly fasting traditions are done because the prophets mentioned in the holy texts did it

[ruby trellis]

yeah, so, people are allowed to have their beliefs, is the thing.

what mariosis is saying is understandable to some degree. somebody potentially not getting the nutrition they need can be concerning, but in the end there is a point where you are restricting a person's freedoms because of your anxieties.

[lofty cypress]

Yea well back then people starved to death, thats where fasting comes from
Now they dont have to

[visual helm]

Jesus himself did it, assuming you believe the Bible, etc..

[jade wedge]

@lofty cypress see this

[deep heath]

no. chicken was mentioned waaaay later.
actually, that single message didn't mention religion at all. and around that time of discussion, veganism (and pushing it) was mentioned... sooooo

you mentioned chicken way down

[short oyster]

I mean, I think part of having friends and family is looking out for each other and expressing concern if something concerning pops up. Like if I get into a depressive episode my fiance will express that concern. I wouldn't save that's restricting my freedom.

[lofty cypress]

I dont understand why youre so bothered by this, it doesnt affect you in the slightest

[deep heath]

but mariosis didn't reply to this, did they? it was a general message because the stuff was mentioned before

[ruby trellis]

that is true, but a big part of this is individual consent.

[short oyster]

I don't think that invalidates a person's concerns though

[ruby trellis]

i imagine you would not like a depressive episode.

it does not

[jade wedge]

Well u started it

[ruby trellis]

like if you want to make sure somebody actually knows what they are doing, and you talk with them about it, i see no issue with that at all, but if you are continuously trying to get somebody to stop following their religious beliefs, i dunno that seems wrong to me.

i absolutely do think that religion can be a harmful thing, though.

[lofty cypress]

Bro stop replying to me you havent the skightest clue what youre talking about

[serene dagger]

society already takes away your individual consent if you do sussy things to yourself ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[visual helm]

This is why they say never discuss politics, religion, race with strangers

[jade wedge]

Ur talking about religion

[ruby trellis]

i feel like i am contradicting myself here so i will stop talking now and go back to drawing my cicles.

[deep heath]

they wrote it after your message but didn't reply. the message could be directed at the discussion before. which you were also part of, yes, but not only

[short oyster]

religion isn't some untouchable thing that no one can criticize or discuss...

[lofty cypress]

So what, i mentioned that i dont do this for just anyone but my close circle, im not out there proselytising

[visual helm]

Go back to your mp3s, or did you finish that?

[viral hull]

targeting religion isn't inherently "not right". People are entitled to the opinion that religion is a dangerous thing and therefore watching someone become more religious is worrisome.

[ruby trellis]

not yet

[jade wedge]

If you are continuously trying to get somebody to stop following their religious beliefs, i dunno that seems wrong to me.

[lofty cypress]

Bro stop pinging me i swear to god (pun intended) im going to report you

[visual helm]

ok I'm out, too toxic of a convo

[ruby trellis]

while i am on the front of religion freedoms, denying that religion can lead to genuine harm is dishonest.

kutiekaj's comment is making me question where the line should even be drawn, though.

[lofty cypress]

You cant enter a conversation insulting me and then try to converse with me

[jade wedge]

I gonna report u for religion hating

[viral hull]

As a moderator here, I disagree.

[deep heath]

you're the one who came here insulting others...

[viral hull]

You took offense, but I don't believe offense was intended.

[deep heath]

they literally said "my friend" in their original message

[lofty cypress]

My replies about me caring about my friends?

[short oyster]

I didn't take it as something offensive

[visual helm]

dude! what the actual fuck, I just came in here to see someones ot code, I didn't insult a single individual

[ruby trellis]

at what point does somebody fasting become dangerous to the point where their religious freedoms should be ignored to prevent them from starving themselves?

[visual helm]

I dunno if you are confusing me with someone else

[lofty cypress]

I feel like i've said i would only worry about my friends and family way too much for this to keep going

[ruby trellis]

the line is blurry so that is fucking lovely.

[jade wedge]

Done now stop talking about religion pls

[neat sparrow]

aight this convo has to cool down a bit before we all get muted

[ruby trellis]

nobody is doing that, though.

[neat sparrow]

not a good reason to report someone

[viral hull]

Your example was "I gave up chicken for my religion" - you didn't mention a few weeks until later on.

[jade wedge]

Yes

[visual helm]

Wasn't til someone called me out for saying shit I didn't

[jade wedge]

So that's good

[lofty cypress]

Is this a mod ping or a modmail thread

[short oyster]

I guess to me, because I buy into the inherent power of symbolism and that kind of thing, it's when the religion compromises your safety or there is no leeway for health.

[ruby trellis]

religion is not and should not be off the table for discussion.

there is a difference between having a civil discussion about it and insulting each other.

[jade wedge]

Discord report

[deep heath]

and we already discussed it? you're cherry-picking messages that look right to you. the context was friends, you just took message without the context that 'people' in there ==friends mentioned before

[short oyster]

but none of the messages so far meet discord's threshold for that report type

[ruby trellis]

i think that is a fair assessment. do you think that fasting should not be allowed at all, or do you think that there is a limit to when it should be allowed?

[short oyster]

I think a limit imo. It depends on what people consider fasting. 8 hours? 16 hours? 24 hours? longer?

[viral hull]

If one of my friends came to me next week and said "I gave up pork for my religion", I'd be concerned, given that they previously ate pork.

[jade wedge]

Well they check the whole chain of replies

[visual helm]

@deep heath can you please point out when I attacked or insulted someone?

[serene dagger]

i do 16 or 24 pretty much everyday its based

[onyx ice]

Damn, I can't even get a drive in from work? Last I was here I linked a Wikipedia article about the flying spaghetti monster

[ruby trellis]

i do agree now actually that when it comes to fasting it can be dangerous, so good job.

[short oyster]

yeah, nothing in the chain of replies meets discord's criteria for that type of report

[jade wedge]

New message by him might met?

[deep heath]

I confused you with another person, sorry. but at least one of your messages before that looked kinda out of context and I assumed you were that person from before

[lofty cypress]

Link it again for funsies

[ruby trellis]

hey instead of the flying spaghetti monster, do you have a moment to hear about our lord and savior Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson?

[jade wedge]

Cz they also check new message sent by him

[visual helm]

oh, well fair enough, sorry if I over reacted

[onyx ice]

I've got a minute

[onyx ice]

.wiki flying spaghetti monster

[median swallow]

Wikipedia Search Results

Flying Spaghetti Monster
The Flying Spaghetti Monster (FSM) is the deity of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or Pastafarianism, a social movement that promotes a light-hearted

The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is a satirical book written by Bobby Henderson that embodies the main beliefs of the parody religion of the

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[ruby trellis]

Guido Von Rossam is the anti christ.

[lofty cypress]

Oh shit theres a gospel

[viral hull]

Satirical? How dare they.

[ruby trellis]

i want to see what he would think of this sticker.

[short oyster]

I fucking love that sticker

[ruby trellis]

Guido hugs me in a loving embrace.

and softly whispers into my ear, 'i will be your C boy'

[deep heath]

I guess to me, because I buy into the inherent power of symbolism and that kind of thing, it's when the religion compromises your safety or there is no leeway for health.
oh, that's actually also scientifically proven that symbolism works! psychology went into it in 19th century already, Carl Gustav Jung analysed religions in context of psychological archetypes and universal symbolism!
and that last point... exactly. as I said some time above, Mariosis' message seemed more like person changing overnight (friend, "gave up") and without research which is a valid thing for concern

[lofty cypress]

Is it too late for him to adopt me

[stone gyro]

one of the prototypes

[visual helm]

I'll adopt you

[ruby trellis]

fix error

[serene dagger]

try the 16hr fast thing everyday, stop feeling hungry and lose weight ez it just werks

[ruby trellis]

i want the context.

[fleet epoch]

exit()
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
NameError: name 'exit' is not defined

[ruby trellis]

all of it, preferably.

[jade wedge]

Lol

[ruby trellis]

also holy shit i actually just watched a religious conversation go down without the mods shutting it down. it must be a full moon.

[lofty cypress]

It do be like that sometimes

[visual helm]

i think Daylight saving time has kinda messed with people a little

[onyx ice]

It was touch and go for a little while, but we made it out the other side ok

[jade wedge]

No one ping mods

[deep heath]

opinion still should be founded on something. unfounded opinions are often superstitious or based on stereotypes

[ruby trellis]

we made it out alive

[viral hull]

possibly a repl from python -S

[ruby trellis]

and i have not been banned yet.

[fleet epoch]

👏

[ruby trellis]

oh hey speaking of being banned, i have not been banned in two weeks or so.

[visual helm]

You get banned, I leave

[lofty cypress]

It still is completely fine because nothing i said is controversial

[ruby trellis]

🥴

[lofty cypress]

Mods think otherwise

[visual helm]

Nah, but you cool

[lofty cypress]

🤷

[ruby trellis]

the first time was somewhat justified.

[deep heath]

new moon, actually. maybe that's why? less energy according to some beliefs ;P

[ruby trellis]

INFINITE POWER

[lofty cypress]

Now this is kinda rude

[visual helm]

@sick olive we can't hear the difference in inflection through text, lmao

[stone gyro]

there are few places on the internet where that is possible, yeah

[ruby trellis]

this is why tone tags exist.

[lofty cypress]

If you have a problem with me you dont have to wait for mods to step in, you can just @fossil smelt

[short oyster]

@sick olive Just because you disagree with mods doesn't mean the mods are incorrect

[ruby trellis]

is this one of them

[deep heath]

what

there were literally mods participating in this discussion

[ruby trellis]

we will soon enter a peaceful era, where i can live peacefully.

speaking of, i was reminded that my mouth should be in intense pain right now.

[visual helm]

diff peace piece

[viral hull]

Why do you say that?

[visual helm]

if it's a tooth, don't sleep on that shit

[ruby trellis]

sigh

[deep heath]

nobody said that

[short oyster]

I mean, many people here disagree with you and you're taking a lot of statements out of their original context

[jade wedge]

Ok imma go bathing

[deep heath]

you're taking a lot of statements out of their original context
Kat said this and I said this before already^

[sick olive]

Hey guys. i have an question that is a bit off topic. i typed some random ips at this site here, https://ipapi.co/ and it always gave me an result of where the ip is located, but these ips weren't existing. i pinged them, and the only information i could find about the ip were the location. now I assume that the website extracts the location from the ip, and the ip is like a code for a location. but what rules follows the website? how does it know what 'code' each ip has??

[deep heath]

the person was responding in context, while you're analysing their response as general thing

[ruby trellis]

am i though

i was there. i saw it with my own four eyes.

[jade wedge]

All IP u check are reserved but not used so a ping check fails

[deep heath]

it doesn't extract anything. all ips are registered by ISPs who 'own' them. the location is given by ISP

[stone gyro]

it likely knows what sections of the ipv4 address space belong to which ISPs, but I don't know any more info than that.

[ruby trellis]

i think we mostly all agreed that there is a point where fasting is 'okay', and a point where it is 'not okay.'

i think

well, no.

but i try to

[deep heath]

...nobody said it is?

[ruby trellis]

i agree with them though.

[sick olive]

so it basicly asks the isp?

and why is there no provider named then

[ruby trellis]

i was paraphrasing what i thought the conversation as a whole was about.

[sick olive]

there need to be one if the site asks the isp

[ruby trellis]

you silly misunderstood fucking goose

[viral hull]

Alright, that's enough. Everyone has made their points, no one's mind is changing, let's stop the discussion.

[visual helm]

Can we pls stop fighting

[ruby trellis]

Aight

[jade wedge]

Why would they list the isp out

[viral hull]

code. of. conduct.

[deep heath]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIPE_NCC#The_RIPE_Database

[lofty cypress]

Theres literally @fossil smelt for this

[short oyster]

lmao I love this phrase, stealing it

[ruby trellis]

🥴

[visual helm]

it's so counter-productive, we have a common goal

[lofty cypress]

The mod in the chat asked you to stop

[viral hull]

asked everyone to stop.

So let's all stop.

[onyx ice]

If you wish to say something directly to the moderators without pinging them, dm @fossil smelt

[lofty cypress]

.topic please let this be good

[median swallow]

**What is the most satisfying thing you've done in your life?**

Suggest more topics here!

[short oyster]

Okay, so I need ideas for what to name an etsy shop

[cursive agate]

guys good morning!!!!

[ruby trellis]

hey instead of religion how about we talk about how epic Owl City is

[sick olive]

What a channel

[visual helm]

We're all here to become better programmers, let's not beef with each other! There of plenty of trolls who invade and do that

[cursive agate]

shush religion is bad, end of discussion zzzz

[deep heath]

Kutie Kats

[lofty cypress]

Owl city the band?

[viral hull]

No one promoted anything. People expressed their opinions. Many people had different opinions than you.

[lofty cypress]

Never heard of them

[ruby trellis]

no owl city the owl

[onyx ice]

What's the Etsy product?

[ruby trellis]

https://open.spotify.com/track/6kIpxmFQ35wgI3cK77LKbx?si=823f639b85694825

[deep heath]

what

[visual helm]

@onyx ice just what I was gonna axe

[lofty cypress]

Unironically fireflies is the only song i know from them

[ruby trellis]

one of his best songs. OH HAVE ANY OF YOU WATCHED GUARDIANS OF GAHOOLE? (the movie not the books)

[lofty cypress]

And its trash

[ruby trellis]

i think that is the only song most peop-

[serene dagger]

2 kinds of people

[ruby trellis]

^^

[deep heath]

there's no anonymity in modmail

[onyx ice]

Then what's the Id

[lofty cypress]

Yes

[short oyster]

lmao listen I'm not a mod and people in communities with a worse code of conduct need this said to them

[viral hull]

that's an interesting perspective, but I'm not particularly anonymous. It takes very little time on google to find out who I am.

[stone gyro]

I'm not a mod
mm-hmm

[cursive agate]

i was an Owl City fan but after 2015 im no longer a fan

[deep heath]

I love when people assume/judge stuff without knowing it or even trying

[ruby trellis]

brrrrrr why

wanna hear their BEST song.

https://open.spotify.com/track/3IUOmGcY3AyZTNpVz4A8o5?si=6951eeb9446d404a

[viral hull]

ah, I see. modmail isn't anonymous, actually. You should know which mod is speaking

[short oyster]

metal coasters

[visual helm]

are they vaporwave?

[ruby trellis]

they are absolutely not vaporwave

[lofty cypress]

Can we get some actual good music in here please

[cursive agate]

tastes change. ngl Gold was one of my fav and Hot Air Balloon

[visual helm]

oh

[ruby trellis]

[lofty cypress]

Lmaoooo

[onyx ice]

It's tough to alliterate with K

[viral hull]

it's possible to send anonymous messages through modmail, but it's not the default, and we rarely do.

[short oyster]

I might do House of Orion

[ruby trellis]

you are making coasters?

[short oyster]

fiance is, I just love design and overall management of a thing

[visual helm]

I want to send a love letter to one of the mods, can I use mod mail?

[deep heath]

define "good music"

[cursive agate]

i make people

[ruby trellis]

the music i listen to

[cursive agate]

im good at it too

[lofty cypress]

Not owl city i guess haha?

[neat sparrow]

dang I want to get married

[ruby trellis]

making people is like. the most unproductive thing ever.

[serene dagger]

anything made when <person> was 14 years old

[ruby trellis]

you want to know what is not unproductive? coding in C.

[cursive agate]

dont get married. unless youre ready to accept dirt

[visual helm]

@ruby trellis what are you, a nihlist?

[short oyster]

here's some good rock music https://open.spotify.com/track/78SCmQ8A7KQSMdkem2SwBP?si=b31a82a6db72481b

[ruby trellis]

quite the opposite

[jade wedge]

Dm the mods

[ruby trellis]

Måneskin

are you comparing me to an ant?

[visual helm]

making new ppl is literally our oldest function

[ruby trellis]

i will have you know i am about 100 times taller than an ant.

[onyx ice]

Vulcan's Forge

[deep heath]

hmmm... what do you think about this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxBKsbcSXGo

[short oyster]

ooooh I like that

[visual helm]

😮

[cursive agate]

i define good music in a particular moment in their lives when their ears think this music is like drugs or probably onions

[deep heath]

Gangnam Style

[ruby trellis]

is 5'9 100x taller than an ant?

okay maybe not 100x then. maybe 200x.

[cursive agate]

fuckkkkkk whyyyyy

[dusty aspen]

ooh that's an amazing name for something

[onyx ice]

It's a Latin god from the Roman Pantheon

[visual helm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8klW9trVTQ

[ruby trellis]

name your Etsy shop Lead Zepplin.

[lofty cypress]

I used to like this kind of music but now im more of a downtempo ambient electronica kind of guy

[ruby trellis]

after the band, not the blimp.

[deep heath]

it's youtube's fault! I was listening to some old stuff, like 90s music I know from radio/music cds... and yt showed me gangnam style in recommendations. and I've seen it was released 10 years ago

[serene dagger]

oh i forgot ya'll kinda young

[onyx ice]

Or Lead Balloon and take it full circle

[short oyster]

are you into triphop at all?

[ruby trellis]

LEAD BALLOOOOOON

[visual helm]

oppa gangnam style

[ruby trellis]

alright fine, you all want some fire music?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPGf4liO-KQ

take it or leave it.

[lofty cypress]

I could mayhap get into it, depends on the artist really

[ruby trellis]

this song gives me a lot of nostalgia for some reason.

[short oyster]

portishead, start with glorybox

[deep heath]

ambient electronica is not my style, but I sometimes listen to nightcore remixes. but that's usually kinda far from ambient...

[ruby trellis]

HOLY SHIT

[lofty cypress]

Ah yes i've listened to portishead, my current favourite is Bonobo

[visual helm]

Boards of canada is some good downtempo / ambient

[cursive agate]

hmmmm why are u blaming youtube? it is just doing its job. it also has feelings ;((

[deep heath]

gangnam style does not belong with 90s music

[serene dagger]

also wdym 90s music "old"

[visual helm]

90's music is old, it's literally on the oldies station in my area

it pisses me off

[lofty cypress]

90s kids are 30ish now

[ruby trellis]

i can call myself a 2010's kid and i am proud.

[serene dagger]

ok time to die

[short oyster]

90s music is old
excuse me while I go die in a corner

[deep heath]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8lGvisP-Sg this nightcore mix is nice. it doesn't have too heavy stuff mixed in (sometimes nightcore remixes have too much beats added, it just thumps instead of being music). and it's actually older than 2013, it was reuploaded.

[ruby trellis]

nightcore

we are not 12 okay

[deep heath]

very good for programming

[ruby trellis]

i will have you know i passed my nightcore phase a week ago.

[visual helm]

music with lyrics is not good for programming IMO

[toxic jay]

thank god

[lofty cypress]

Did you turn 13 then?

[ruby trellis]

nope

[visual helm]

I was listening to Tool and it was too distracting

[ruby trellis]

i will be 17 soon and that is scary.

i do not want to be an adult.

[sonic glacier]

wow they're really good

[dusty aspen]

I love music with lyrics while programming/reading, but only if it's not some type of loud rock or whatever, it's more calm-ish

[ruby trellis]

what DO YOU READ.

[toxic jay]

b*tch im about to turn 18 thats the true scary number

[serene dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/congratulations-omedetou-evangelion-neon-genesis-evangelion-gif-18965404

[ruby trellis]

i know such an achievement

[dusty aspen]

Me? A heck ton of fantasy.

[visual helm]

@ruby trellis fast forward to my age, and god what I wouldn't give to start over, even at 17

[short oyster]

fucking fantastic, listen to zitti e buoni next

[ruby trellis]

have you ever read guardians of gahoole?

[lofty cypress]

Tool is great i wish i could see them live

[ruby trellis]

i feel that is common among old people.

[visual helm]

@lofty cypress Oh I agree, just can't code to them cuz I keep focusing on the lyrics

[dusty aspen]

nope

[ruby trellis]

aw

[short oyster]

Under no circumstances do I want to relive my 17-20 years

[lofty cypress]

Yea i would too tbh, thats why i go for electronica

[ruby trellis]

why not what is the worst that could happen?

[visual helm]

I did see them in the 90's at lollapollooza or however it is spelled

[deep heath]

the lyrics are more in the background. nightcore is basically faster+effects, making it more upbeat and higher in pitch. the rhythm is what makes me going when I'm in the flow, keeping me focused on what's on the screen

[sonic glacier]

if you have any other good contemporary rock recommendations, im all hears cuz i've got one foot in the "rock is dead" camp

[lofty cypress]

But 90s didnt have 10000 days or lateralus

[cursive agate]

hey dont remind me about my embarrassing start on adulthood

[short oyster]

I survived once, fuck going through that again. I very much enjoy my life now

[lofty cypress]

Or fear

[visual helm]

contemporary? mm kinda struggling there

[serene dagger]

bullying, self hate, self harm, dissociating yeah no

[visual helm]

@deep heath I will check it out then

[ruby trellis]

[visual helm]

I see lotsa anime thumbnails

[deep heath]

do you want/need a hug?

[visual helm]

@serene dagger aw I am sorry to here that yo

[ruby trellis]

collective hug from everyone in this server.

[visual helm]

@ruby trellis Yiss, yall my peoples

[ruby trellis]

and from Guido

[ruby trellis]

Yiss

[deep heath]

[sick olive]

thx. i read the wiki and even tried it on their site. and i am still impressed by this. but on the website, they are talking about an public aviable database. i want to check mulitple servers and don't want to overload and bring unnecessary traffic to ther service.

[short oyster]

maneskin, bmth's last full album, tom morello is coming out with new stuff it's awesome, the used produces some alright stuff, wolf & bear, foals (less rock but they produce amazing music), vukovi

Also, what subset of rock do you like?

[lofty cypress]

My teens were pretty uneventful idk what yall doing

[ruby trellis]

mine have been pretty uneventful outside of somebody threatening to jump me.

[short oyster]

sketchy shit tbh

[visual helm]

@lofty cypress whew don't ask

that is why I wouldn't mind a do-over

[ruby trellis]

give us the sneaky deets

[serene dagger]

society failed me ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[visual helm]

I would tell you, cuz u r smart and wouldn't glorify it

[ruby trellis]

[deep heath]

whois is the command/tool to check whois database. if you have linux/wsl, you can use it directly

[ruby trellis]

speaking of, i forgot to go back to drawing circles in ncurses.

[serene dagger]

but hey everything was cool and fun until like 12 thats when the expectations kicked in

[sick olive]

Some teenagers just like to bully others who are weaker than them😑

[deep heath]

my teens are a blur because of depression and memory gaps because of it... so, yes, also "uneventful"

[visual helm]

You can automate whois calls with a text file, bt you have to compensate for making sure you don't blast the whois server, cuz they will temp ban for that

[ruby trellis]

you telling me you do not know what to do with your life at the exact stroke of the day you hit 13?

inconcievable.

[sick olive]

oh, i even know this command. but i am still connecting to their servers right? i don't want to get in trouble when i check some more servers.

[lofty cypress]

I didnt even know what i wanted to do until i got hired recently i still dont know

[deep heath]

that's late for expectations, tbh.
12-13 was sui ideation for me already
what do I win?

[visual helm]

@deep heath I assume ur talking about chop suey?

[serene dagger]

well that was middle school, i dont talk about middle school lol

[deep heath]

sui||cidal|| ideation

[visual helm]

Ironically there are no rewards for surviving life to any point. I am not being fescitious...Life is hard.

[ruby trellis]

what is your advice for a bucko like me

[visual helm]

wwho me?

[ruby trellis]

yes

give me your musings

[serene dagger]

my reward was things did get better later so it was worth :B

[lofty cypress]

Be like the praying mantis, get it on once and then die for nutrients

[ruby trellis]

is that what they do?

[lofty cypress]

My 5 year plan

[ruby trellis]

[deep heath]

that depends on your partner, then

[visual helm]

Actually right now, you seem to have a good head on your shoulders, almost suspiciously so. You are focused and goal oriented. So that being said, I'd ask if you feel unfulfilled in anyway

[ruby trellis]

hmm

[serene dagger]

you dont eat yours? weird

[dusty aspen]

wait starcy your partner is a sticker you eat wtf wtf

[sonic glacier]

anything other than metal pretty much

[ruby trellis]

i think the only thing i really feel unfulfilled about is stuff like dating i guess.

[short oyster]

what are your feelings on:

• pop punk
• pop runk
• emo

[deep heath]

being a queer person it's hard to decide who's gonna eat whose head

[visual helm]

sheet, that doesn't get any easier

[ruby trellis]

why not eat both?

[serene dagger]

based

[ruby trellis]

as i expected 🥴

[sonic glacier]

• good
• idk what that is
• im a 90s kid

[deep heath]

if it wasn't PG13 server, I could have some nice response

[ruby trellis]

how do you not know what pop runk is

[visual helm]

plenty of nights at the bar, I'm thinking "she's been sending signals" yet wake up alone. That being said, the media tells us it's a numbers game, like the higher your body count the better person you are. I think that is utter shit

[ruby trellis]

because i sure as fuck do not either.

i think that is kind of the expectation it places on people. in my opinion we should just let people do their thing.

[serene dagger]

the hell is pop runk that sounds like something non pg13 you find on urban dictionary

[visual helm]

I miss skate puunk as a 90's kid

[ruby trellis]

alright how many of you went through your skater kid phase

[visual helm]

this guy

[ruby trellis]

i want to know because i do not have the balls to ride a skateboard.

[sonic glacier]

like pop rocks past their best-by date

[deep heath]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runk ???

[sonic glacier]

😵‍💫 love the feel of pop runks in my mouth

[ruby trellis]

R O M A N I A

[visual helm]

I duno man, I just did it

tho I have lots of ankle issues now

[ruby trellis]

is that related

[visual helm]

yeah, you roll your ankle a lot skating