#General Cartoon Discussion

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thorny solstice
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His name is Carver ya’ll

opal trail
dusk terrace
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Al Roker

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You mean the genie thats just Al Roker?

foggy pulsar
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You mean THE pirate who likes sunsets and kittens?

limber thistle
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The mailbox from Robots

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Is Wylde Pak not that chill?

bitter lava
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I'll be honest, I'm surprised "Ha Ha, You Clowns" would be hated.

dusk terrace
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What do you mean hated?

bitter lava
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Like it would be one of the most despised [adult swim] shows like Mr. Pickles. I did do some research. The premise actually sounds really sweet.

opal trail
strong spoke
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||/j ofc||

weary gust
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oh hey im just now finding out rps is now on its 2nd season which started 3 weeks ago

keen bear
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There was this recent show on Max called Young Love.

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Nothing supernatural AFAIK.

lean rapids
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Not all Charlie Brown specials are off television

thin falcon
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I got like 40 of them on dvd

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They just released the 75th anniversary set

thorny solstice
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I saw that in Walmart just earlier today. I didn’t even know Peanuts has 40 TV specials.

lean rapids
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I know 4 movies are owned by paramount

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  • a boy named Charlie Brown
  • snoopy come home
  • race for your life Charlie Brown
  • Bon voyage Charlie Brown (and don’t come back!!!)
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That’s why they can air on tv I think

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I should get the dvd

bitter lava
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Cool.

weary gust
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watching peanuts the last day before break and having a lil class party hits different

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elementary school was pretty fuckin trash lookin back on it

lean rapids
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I keep finding memes about this 😭

weary gust
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was the movie that bad

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also i like how the loud house would destroy someones character in an episode, because it has the same tell the truth moral in every episode 🙂

keen bear
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I just imagine they ran out of ideas and had to resort to fantasy and sci-fi plots.

lean rapids
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GUYS 😭

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LOOK AT ONE OF THESE TRACKS

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WHAT THE FUCK

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I THOUGHT IT WAS A JOKE

warped halo
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Nope, it's real

dusk terrace
lean rapids
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BUT WHY THAT ONE 😭

hidden portal
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It’ll get clicks

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Cuz any mention of furries is bound to get attention

thorny solstice
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Instant buy

limber thistle
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RIP to one of the franchise’s most intriguing antagonists

lost anchor
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Like for example here's the tracks for Dawn of the Planet of the Apes

thin falcon
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No but like, whatever the fuck sister it is during april fools day?

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How is she not the worst

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Did the movie even explain what Lincoln did that was so bad?

wide glacier
lost anchor
thin falcon
wide glacier
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Loud House casually turns into Nickelodeon Smiling Friends

vast cave
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nahhh

lost anchor
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I bet the next Loud House movie is gonna involve space or smth

thin falcon
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That’s when you know you’ve jumped the shark

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I say as the Big City Greens movie was space

thorny solstice
# foggy pulsar Luan

I haven’t seen this show in years but I would way sooner do this plot with Luan or Lisa before even considering Lincoln.

foggy pulsar
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Lisa probably wouldn't believe in Santa, though. Luan could be believable as the lead here or maybe Lynn

thorny solstice
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Or wait, no I got them confused. I meant Lola

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I’m a fake fan

foggy pulsar
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She could work too

lost anchor
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I've seen every episode of Loud House Seasons 1 to 4

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I stopped watching around Season 5 and the first movie

opal trail
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I think I stopped watching after Lincoln temporarily went to school in Canada or something

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That or the movie

lost anchor
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oh yeah the season 5 premiere was quite dumb

thorny solstice
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It was probably the movie for me. I kept hearing about the Canada episode but never actually got to watch it.

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I watched No Time to Spy when it premiered and I have not looked back since.

limber thistle
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I have yet to see it

thin falcon
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I think so

opal trail
weary gust
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all ik from the later seasons (talking bout whatever season it was on in 2021 or 22 since i stopped caring atp, casagrandes is better) is that i think it pulled a chloe

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like yk how sam is apart of lincoln's friend group, yea there's some girl named kara or smth

lusty basin
sleek python
thin falcon
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That’s my point

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I’m waiting for the day that after a day of April fools pranking, they just go “Luan, you’re grounded”

sleek python
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I think it's a case of the plot having to revolve around the straightman MC, even when it makes no sense for that to be the case

thin falcon
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I mean I understand that

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But then in that case, for the movie, wouldn’t you ramp up his behavior so him being the naughtiest child is justified

sleek python
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Exactly

thin falcon
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Apparently in the movie the worst thing he’s done is turn someone’s drink green?

sleek python
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You could easily just have Lincoln cause nothing but trouble throughout the movie

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Like things that can't just be easily fixed or waved away as a joke

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Shit that has consequences

bitter lava
wide glacier
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Forbes

weary gust
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huh

weary gust
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😓

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yk smth, chris savino was glazed back in the day

limber thistle
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What do you mean?

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As far as I know, he was pretty much known for being in charge of the later seasons of Dexter’s Lab and PPG Classic, which are regarded as inferior to what came before

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The only other thing he worked on that was at least considered good was Kick Buttowski

clever birch
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I just wrapped up a marathon

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I give it a yeah that was fine

weary gust
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ollie's pack is too slice of lifey for it's own good 🙁

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its cool & all, but it definitely needed another season or two🤷‍♂️ (its basically a seralized show with only filler episodes)

weary gust
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im bored im gonna talk about thanksgiving in #gen-chat

limber thistle
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Potential glazing or a sign of good things to come?
Who knows for certain

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But hopefully this proves me wrong

vast cave
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oh yeah it's tomorrow

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if it turns out really good and worth it, I can expect people discussing about the movie online

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similar to Puss in Boots The Last Wish (although without the whole Animation is Cinema discourse)

thorny solstice
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I’m guessing because it’s Disney and they don’t suddenly want to forgive everything about this company over one good movie?

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Or seeing people get angry this movie is making money because sequel bad. Original movie good. Like, can we not just enjoy movies anymore?

weary gust
weary gust
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looks better than wha i expected

lusty basin
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But in all seriousness I have decent hopes for this movie

thin falcon
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Ngl

I kind of wish this series got picked up

midnight cosmos
lusty basin
weary gust
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guys guess what day it is today

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thats right, FOP was supposed to end 19 years ago today

opal trail
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It would've ended with a lot of respect had it ended after Channel Chasers

sleek python
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Channel Chasers isnt a good finale

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I'd have much rather the show ended S6 after Poof got added in

opal trail
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I think it is

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The show started because of Vicky's cruelty to Timmy which is how he got fairies in the first place

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She actually makes sense to be the final threat to Timmy

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His parent's realize how badly they messed up after believing Vicky's lies causing their son ran away and in turn learning about how evil Vicky is

thin falcon
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Do I want to see Zootopia 2 today

foggy pulsar
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Yes

wide glacier
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limber thistle
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¡El Chapulín Colorado, está de vuelta y no viene solo! Conoce a Los Colorado, una familia que viene a salvarnos con mucha astucia. 🦗🔴 Nueva serie próximamente, solo en HBO Max y Cartoon Network

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Why does CN LA get the cool stuff?

weary gust
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7 years ago today🕊️💔

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fun fact: mighty b takes place in 2016

lean rapids
limber thistle
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What?

lean rapids
lean rapids
limber thistle
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It works fine for me

lean rapids
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Cuz I live in America

fading cloak
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Kyle is too?

lean rapids
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And it’s probably not available

fading cloak
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You have to click on it to see the full post

lean rapids
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Well I guess mark zuckerberg is screwing with my Instagram

limber thistle
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The link you sent is not even identical to the one I sent

lean rapids
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Doesn’t work for me

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Idk why

limber thistle
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Strange

thin falcon
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Zootopia 2

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Pretty damn good

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Might be better than the first one

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Still flip flopping

lost anchor
lusty basin
lusty basin
thin falcon
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I dunno if the metaphor is handled better

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But the villain was

thin falcon
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Who she’s attracted to is never stated or addressed in the movie btw

thin falcon
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Wait it’s a joke, my bad lmao

I’m so used to Disney doing this shit

hallow fulcrum
thin falcon
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I have been pranked

hallow fulcrum
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Lmao

vast cave
# thin falcon

"first openly gay character"
what happened to that police woman in Onwards?

thin falcon
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It’s not real

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Is a joke

vast cave
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lol

strong spoke
# thin falcon

i know its a joke, but didnt strange world have a gay character

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wait hoppers is pixar

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onward did it first pensiveface2x

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WAIT someone already mentioned it

weary gust
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didnt lightyear have 1

lusty basin
vast cave
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lol

weary gust
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im bored so guess the show

lusty basin
weary gust
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yes 😄

limber thistle
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That’s the dog show episode

thin falcon
keen bear
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The artstyle looks flatter than I remember.

weary gust
keen bear
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Guess the show (you won't).

thin falcon
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The Real Ghostbusters?

keen bear
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..........Okay, maybe you will.

thin falcon
weary gust
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crit is so smart

sleek python
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Holy glaze

thorny solstice
wooden halo
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I really liked the movie but not as much for the show

weary gust
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ngl i felt as there were a million tmnt movies & shows since rise

wooden halo
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I think the reasons are

  1. The artstyle is suited for 3d styalization
  2. There's not as much improv
wooden halo
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Every time a TMNT dies and the next one starts, there is a big internet hate/tear wave over it

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Rise got a bunch of hate for being a "bad reboot" soley because 2012 fans (I am one but I never) felt like it got canned in order to make Rise

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The Mutant Mayhem backlash was a lot more reasonable and less toxic though, mostly complaints about the artstyle and April being dark and overweight

thorny solstice
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April being black was also a complaint but Mutant Mayhem kind of got a bigger response.

lean rapids
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This 😭

wooden halo
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Ironic because April was mixed race in the original comics, so neither her being white or black is a raceswap/big change

thin falcon
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She actually wasnt

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It depends on who you ask

lost anchor
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yea she was white in the original TMNT Mirage comics

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ROTTMNT was the first time she was portrayed as African-American

weary gust
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wait so rise isnt canon then

lost anchor
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Also I finished Superman: The Animated Series

weary gust
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was it good

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better than the batman one

lost anchor
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Didn’t like it as much as BTAS, but it was still a very good show

wooden halo
thin falcon
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That’s if you ask one creator

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You ask the other creator, he’ll say April is meant to be white with a perm

wooden halo
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Yea

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Its conflicting so I say all versions are valid

lean rapids
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okay guys I need help solving this

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Scooby says ruh roh

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Shaggy says zoinks

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Velma says jinkies

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And Daphne says jeepers

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what did Fred say?

dusk terrace
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I cant find the original post to be funny and explain the punchline "Fred says fuck"

lean rapids
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HE DID NOT

dusk terrace
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You know then :)

dusk terrace
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Hold on. Hold every phone and communication device.

Didn't they say this about Inside Out 2? How it was also a "great sequel to a great movie"?

limber thistle
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Disney, not Pixar

dusk terrace
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Hm. Still I feel its kinda just...absurd

midnight cosmos
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Yea it feels

weary gust
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i thought zootopia 2 would be trash

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but yet again its zootopia

dusk terrace
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Its probably fine. I liked the first movie but I think people are just hyping it up to hype it up or its that "wow thats amazing!" first impression without really letting it sorta settle and they think about it beyond it being flashy and cool

weary gust
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inside out & this came out 9 years after the OG and they turned out to be good, maybe studios should give producers more time when producing sequels so they can turn out good🤔

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goddamn it its happening again

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFaff7zbr7c now that the trailer's 10 years old the movie looks like shit

The new trailer for Zootopia is here! Watch now and see the film in theatres in 3D February 2016!

The modern mammal metropolis of Zootopia is a city like no other. Comprised of habitat neighborhoods like ritzy Sahara Square and frigid Tundratown, it’s a melting pot where animals from every environment live together—a place where no matter ...

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i mean uh it doesnt look as realistic

dusk terrace
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So are you just saying that for the funnies or

weary gust
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naw

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im saying i dont like how dated CG is when its around 10 years old

dusk terrace
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Do you actually just believe these things? Do you not realize literally 3d animation in the past 15 years still generally looks very good

weary gust
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they were more realistic when i was younger, and its not because i was younger and my perception on things were different

wide glacier
dusk terrace
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Realism isnt a measurement of quality

wide glacier
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There’s maybe a 10% chance of that like comparing the first Toy Story with Toy Story 4 but even then it’s not that extreme

weary gust
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i wonder if spider verse is gonna start having the same effect cuz it turns 8 this year

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pretend its 2026 rn

wide glacier
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I don’t think it will because nobody’s been saying “gee ever since Zootopia 2 came out the first Zootopia looks awful now”

dusk terrace
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I dont think thats a flex

sleek python
lost anchor
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Chat is My Little Pony: Friendship is magic worth watching?

dusk terrace
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Yes

midnight cosmos
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YES! YES! YES!

weary gust
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the last classic nick show 🥹

thorny solstice
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The last classic Nick show and it’s based off a property they don’t own.

lost anchor
weary gust
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should i binge it someday👀

lost anchor
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Anyways I'm binging The New Batman Adventures, which is the short-lived sequel series to Batman: The Animated Series

keen bear
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But I loved the show when it aired on the main channel.

weary gust
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i miss 2010s nicktoons 🙁

lilac pewter
lilac pewter
weary gust
lilac pewter
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Had no idea it was that old

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Thought it started around 2012

dusk terrace
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I thought it did too

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What the heck

lilac pewter
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That is mad

limber thistle
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I remember seeing a preview for the series when I rented Monsters vs. Aliens

weary gust
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the movie or show

limber thistle
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The movie

vast cave
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Last Kaito Kid movie premiering in the TMS's channel for the event
https://youtu.be/poSvWYVgspM

Detective Conan: The Lost Ship in the Sky

Conan’s arch-nemesis the Phantom Thief Kid is at it again, this time intending to steal the jewel “Lady Sky” aboard the world’s biggest airship. But Conan’s attempts at catching him are complicated by an even worse threat when bioterrorists hijack the ship. Can Kid and Conan really work togeth...

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weary gust
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guys fop s10 is gonna be the same age as chloe in about a month and a half

dusk terrace
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Get ready for the most festive celebration ever as Chuck E. and his friends (Helen, Jasper, Munch, Bella and Pasqually) team up to throw Santa Claus a surprise party to lift Christmas spirits across the North Pole and beyond! But just as the preparations kick into high gear, a mischievous elf named Leggymos decides he doesn’t want the holiday ...

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strong spoke
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i find it funny that the christmas movie says "coming this thanksgiving" lol

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also that girl has two hihats and no snare pensiveface2x

dusk terrace
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Forget the turkey, consume movie about christmas

weary gust
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and vail said it looks bad

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smh

strong spoke
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same dude who called sanjay and craig a regular show ripoff

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bro isnt entitled to serious opinions /j

weary gust
limber thistle
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It’s not being renewed?

weary gust
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no

lusty basin
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I'll miss these bears

thorny solstice
junior ruin
vast cave
thorny solstice
vast cave
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now CN got only two original shows running

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Tiny Toons Looniversity and We Baby Bears have been finished

dusk terrace
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"I Hate it! Trash!"

That's the voice of Bubble Bass himself Dee Bradley Baker. When I went up to show him the print I had of Bubble Bass as me he said "I've been signing a whole bunch of these today. I kept asking who the fuck is this guy?" I'M the fuck that guy! Thanks for being such a good sport...and, you know, years of being a voice acting ...

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weary gust
vast cave
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oh

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so one series now 😭

limber thistle
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Shouldn’t Fionna and Cake count since it is CN produced?

dusk terrace
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Its on Max, not the channel

lusty basin
weary gust
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sadly

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pov: a show that technically isn't even there's that ruined a network is the only one that's still standing

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ngl its the fact that loud house, ttg & bcg (oh wait) have been running for 10+ years now, i'd expect shit like AT or RS to as well

weary gust
lusty basin
thin falcon
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Four animation legends. One special. Adult Swim's "The Elephant" premieres Dec 19 | Next Day @HBOMax
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︀︀Pendleton Ward, Rebecca Sugar, Ian Jones-Quartey, and Patrick McHale joined forces for an epic experiment. Each created their part of the animation without knowing what the others were making. Get ready for a wild ride in storytelling!
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limber thistle
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The idea of Dexter being really excited about the GameCube and specifically Sonic Adventure 2: Battle is kind of funny

thorny solstice
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Here’s a different kind of quiz: Guess the movie this piece of concept art was originally made for:

thin falcon
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Hercules?

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It’s either that or some kind of weird Crash Bandicoot concept

thorny solstice
thin falcon
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Hmm

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Princess and the frog feels wrong too

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This looks like something out of The Wall

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And the same person who did the animation on that worked on Hercules

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So idk

thorny solstice
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First time I saw it, I thought Emperor’s New Groove but this is actually Aladdin.

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Well specifically I thought this looked like a character in Emperor’s New Groove, I was already watching Aladdin earlier this evening and just wanted to peek at the bonus features.

thin falcon
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Reeeeeealy

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You know what, now that you said it, I can see it

thorny solstice
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I can see where you’re coming from with Hercules though. That skull admittedly would come off as a dead giveaway.

thin falcon
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It was the exaggerated body type and the design of the sword for me

thorny solstice
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Also true, he does give Minotaur vibes.

dusk terrace
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But youre WB.....the fact Gumball isnt there to begin with is weird

lilac pewter
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That’s interesting, Sky acquired the IT show before HBO Max

vast cave
fading cloak
lilac pewter
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It came out before it’s US release date

dusk terrace
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But its WB produced? Shouldnt they have it first?

lilac pewter
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Not sure, it’s odd

weary gust
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guys i have a theory 😮

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lincoln loud is actually an old man and the loud house is just his memories as an 11-year-old boy living with his sisters which explains the white hair

hidden portal
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Like, the hair color at his age could likely simply be a genetics thing

warped halo
lusty basin
silver shadow
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Those endings feel like a cop-out

hidden portal
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I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s how The Loud House finally ends

lusty basin
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The most UNORIGINAL and OVERUSED Theory in all of cinema..

dusk terrace
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Actually the most overused one is the coma theory

wooden halo
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I saw some videos saying The Simpsons is getting better again. Can anyone who's seen the new seasons confirm or deny it?

wooden halo
lost anchor
strong spoke
dusk terrace
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My personal theory is that hes an anime protagonist

bitter lava
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My theory: Lincoln inheirted his white hair from Albert.

lost anchor
bitter lava
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There could be a chance he had it when he was young.

lost anchor
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true

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I don't think we've seen any flashbacks involving him iirc

lean rapids
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nope wait it says Hulu goddamnit

dusk terrace
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No its warnerbrothers

weary gust
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guys i know now

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its because lincoln is dying and is gonna be a ghost

lost anchor
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I presume the actual reason his hair is white is so he can stand out from the rest of his siblings

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in the same way Lucy's hair is black, so she looks more distinct

lusty basin
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Someone said "how did he think she DIDN'T cheat when the kids look/act NOTHING like him"
That comment stuck w me smh

dusk terrace
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Does anyone remember that this show was originally in concept about rabbits?

lost anchor
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I do

lusty basin
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Really??

lost anchor
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I used to be a massive Loud House fan when I was like 10-12, so I do remember a lot of stuff

foggy pulsar
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Wasn't there an episode like that?

lost anchor
dusk terrace
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So the actual answer is his hair is white as a reference to that in some way iirc

opal trail
lusty basin
amber merlin
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My new favorite thing to do after work:
reading PPG fanfics

vast cave
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Paramount has accused Warner Bros of an unfair bidding process to buy the studio.
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︀︀They add that WB’s management is appearing to favor Netflix's offer.
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︀︀(Source: www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/12/04/paramount-questions-warner-bros-discovery-sale-process-letter.html))

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dusk terrace
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So apparently the mr beast show was just gonna be on YT

limber thistle
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You’d think that with one of his shows on Prime Video, they would have this on their service

dusk terrace
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Yeah thats what I thought

dusk terrace
limber thistle
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Yes!

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If Coyote vs. ACME is somehow successful, I wouldn’t mind if this leads to other stand alone Looney Tunes movies

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At least ones that don’t entirely focus on Bugs

wooden halo
lean rapids
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I found my old iPod and I’m crying 😭

thorny solstice
vast cave
vast cave
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thank you for the raw footage coming from Paramount

thorny solstice
# lean rapids https://tenor.com/view/fadding-baby-cry-gif-13060743193639102619

This is that horribly annoying crying sound effect from the great game Yoshi's Island on the Super Nintendo. You should all remember this from your childhood if you had this game. This sound should be great for bothering friends and enemies, coworkers, girlfriends, wives, boyfriends and husbands and basically anyone you know and even yourself. I...

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thorny solstice
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Paramount Paramount He’s our man if he can’t do it GREAT!

bitter lava
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Damn!

thin falcon
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Ok so like

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Will the stuff that got taken down be back up on Netflix?

limber thistle
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Better question
Will HBO Max merge with Netflix ala Disney+ and Hulu?

vast cave
# thorny solstice

they confirmed that they'll still be releasing the movies at theaters if the deal is finalized

keen bear
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Netflix is actually my least favorite streaming service of the ones I own.

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Cause it's super laggy (at least on my TV) and it forces you to skip closing credits.

wooden halo
amber merlin
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It is official

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The fate of Warner Bros now belongs to Netflix

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What does this mean Cartoon Network shows and their IPs?

Well, they just become Netflix IPs

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Adventure Time, Looney Tunes, Regular Show, Powerpuff Girls, Scooby Doo

ALL properties of Netflix

fading cloak
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When do they switch over?

thorny solstice
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New details on Netflix’s acquisition of Warner Bros:
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︀︀• Claim they will continue theatrical releases for films
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︀︀• Netflix will keep HBO Max around while also periodically adding WB/HBO content to Netflix
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︀︀• Deal will not close until Q3 2026 after Warner Bros has split its networks into a separate company

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Could probably take longer than this but a decent estimation.

fading cloak
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So HBO will still stay?

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Or is it a partnership type thing where if you upgrade Netflix you get HBO? Kind of like Paramount and prime

thorny solstice
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I mean for now, Netflix seems to just be interested in the movie/show division so I guess they’re gonna leave HBO Max to Discovery and whatever networks they decide to keep as well. I know the fate of Cartoon Network isn’t really important here but depending on what happens, it might not be a happy ending.

vast cave
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I think Cartoon Network might officially cease to exist unfortunately

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especially since the channel is in life support right now

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I just wish they can keep up the brand since how important it was for American animation

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and Warner Bros. Discovery has fucked up them more

lean rapids
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K Pop demon baby hunters

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(we baby bears joke)

bitter lava
lusty basin
vast cave
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just the Cartoon Network part of things

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i can only assume [adult swim] will still exist as a brand

sleek python
lusty basin
hidden portal
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Y’all really think that’ll solve everything, huh?

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Like

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What if a shittier head takes over should Zaslav step down?

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Careful what you wish for

sleek python
lusty basin
hidden portal
lusty basin
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God this is like the education system around here.. sad

sleek python
lusty basin
hidden portal
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Y’all wildin fr 😭

keen bear
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Netflix also doesn't really like animation, so we'll still barely be getting any cartoons.

limber thistle
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They could’ve been one of many havens had it not been for the pandemic

keen bear
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It arrived!

limber thistle
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Why’s everyone so pissed?

dusk terrace
lusty basin
silver shadow
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Jax is gonna abstract soon I feel

keen bear
wooden halo
rough steppe
silver shadow
silver shadow
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Paramount are coming in with a hostile buyout of Warner Bros

amber merlin
rough steppe
silver shadow
lean rapids
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paramount

silver shadow
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We just have to see how it plays out

thorny solstice
thorny solstice
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You know, maybe if they blocked the WBD merger, this wouldn’t need to happen

limber thistle
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Tbf, I can see the merger being blocked on the grounds of the followers of those on high already hating Netflix

thorny solstice
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But they don’t want Paramount buying them either so I don’t know what exactly it is they intend to accomplish.

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WB is in way too much debt to continue independently and if they stay as WBD, all that means is more projects are gonna get canned

thorny solstice
lean rapids
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Speaking of paramount

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what the fuck

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I can’t afford one paramount

dusk terrace
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Its literally just a documentary trying to educate people that furries arent bad people

lean rapids
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I still can’t afford one

dusk terrace
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What do you mean

lean rapids
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I can’t afford a fursuit

dusk terrace
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Oh yeah those are a dream item to own

thorny solstice
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Why do you want a fursuit?

lean rapids
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it’s a joke

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lol

warped halo
dusk terrace
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Apparently this upset someone in the furry community despite being very well recieved bc it made him look bad I guess lol

lean rapids
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so let me get this straight

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the film was made to educate people that furries aren’t bad

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and then this guy

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made him look bad 😭

dusk terrace
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Specifically its a student's thesis film and the guy Samuel Conway must be just not a cool dude somehow and the director made it a point to be clear he wasnt someone he considered good(for whatever reason, I did not find out specifics).

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And then it pissed off said guy and he just used the ban hammer for the sake of "STUPID DOG YOU MADE ME LOOK BAD"

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After a quick google, apparently he really hates anything that talks about him being kinda just a massive jerk and controlling about basic things happening at conventions.

sleek python
dusk terrace
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Liked by furries but not the public I guess

sleek python
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You just described furry culture in that sentence lol

weary gust
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Cn shows won’t be lost media anymore and be on Netflix instead of max

vast cave
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one thing I'm glad about the early announcement before they go for it is that a lot of people will start manifesting against Netflix acquisition

wooden halo
wooden halo
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I am on the East Coast, and Bluesky was our only big studio to work at; Disney purchased it and got rid of it, so the East Coast mostly has smaller studios

lean rapids
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Question for everyone

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When you go to the movies

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Do you get anything other than popcorn and a soda

keen bear
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Yes I get anything else.

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Many things are tastier than popcorn.

lean rapids
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Cuz I ordered a pizza when I went to see fnaf 2

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And it came in a special box with Freddy on it

foggy pulsar
lean rapids
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I got crunch bites

limber thistle
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Nachos

thorny solstice
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Candy is also something I would consider but they’re often too big, too expensive, or both. If I want it that bad, there’s usually a 7-11 or something in the same parking lot.

lean rapids
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The one I got was at an amc

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it was like fast food pizza like Pizza Hut or 711

weary gust
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idk i havent been to the movies in a while cuz im boring 🙁

dusk terrace
lean rapids
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When I went to see sonic 3 the amc I went to had mac and cheese bites and oh my god it is delicious

foggy pulsar
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They should've served chili dogs

lean rapids
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By the way there’s no food chat so I thought since it’s about movies I should talk about it here

stiff thorn
lean rapids
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I don’t drink a lot of slurpees

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At all

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Only on July 11th

bitter lava
frozen sandal
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Nick:Spongebob and Loud House

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CN:Gumball and Teen Titans Go!

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Disney:Mickey Mouse and ???

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FOX:The Simpsons and Family Guy

weary gust
thorny solstice
thorny solstice
# dusk terrace Was it a pizza hut or offbrand one bc I know one theater is partnered with pizza...

Cineplex usually does off brand and funnily enough, some of their theatres actually do serve burgers and fries. Other theatres in Canada though, most notably Landmark usually has Pizza Pizza in their theatres which is one of the pizza joints we have here. I’ve never had that either as there are no Pizza Pizza locations near me but it’s under the same ownsership as Pizza 73 so I imagine it’s probably very similar.

dusk terrace
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Ahh I see, I didnt know that. We have Pizza Hut providing little personal pizzas and cheesy sticks I think?? Finger food basically

thorny solstice
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Yeah makes sense, ours usually does the same with pepperoni and I think cheese (At the very least, I think they’re about the size as one of those mini pizzas you can buy at the store.) and I think there’s also those pretzel sticks?

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I don’t know if you guys have Rustica pizzas where you are but I’d say that’s a fair estimation.

dusk terrace
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I havent heard of that brand

weary gust
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ykw i keep forgetting

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that avatar movie thats coming out the same day as the spongebob one

thorny solstice
#

I forgot there was a Five Nights at Freddy’s movie out around the same time and the fact that it could make more money than SpongeBob… Well, I wouldn’t say it upsets me as much as it does whelm me.

weary gust
strong spoke
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i genuinely cant fathom how anyone can look at that and feel any sort of positive emotion

lean rapids
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Dropped a what

sleek python
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Poor choice of words

weary gust
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cough cough 1941

lean rapids
#

Holy shit

wooden halo
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Geez

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Also, uhh

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"Nuke in Japan" when talking about an American movie...

lean rapids
#

It gets worse 😭

amber merlin
limber thistle
#

Was Gaston even present in the original fairy tale, or was he a Disney fabrication?

thin falcon
#

Gaston is an original character

limber thistle
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Ok that’s what I thought

thin falcon
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There probably was a Huntsman or something in the original story

foggy pulsar
lusty basin
lean rapids
#

This is so hilarious 😭

vast cave
amber merlin
foggy pulsar
thin falcon
#

Villains aint allowed to be villains anymore

hidden portal
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Lowkey

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I’m kinda intrigued with that concept

warped halo
weary gust
thorny solstice
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I don’t think it warrants making an entire movie about those two but there’s an idea.

bitter lava
wooden halo
wooden halo
dusk terrace
thin falcon
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This isn’t the Disney version

dusk terrace
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I know

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But what I mean is Disney gave them a good happy ending and it was fine

foggy pulsar
#

Only one of the stepsisters did that though

weary gust
#

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spongebob on a non-nick channel D:

lilac pewter
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How it’s ended up on CBBC is very odd

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Fairly sure they have never aired anything from Nick before this

dusk terrace
#

Netflix dropped the entire artbook on a website for free

vast cave
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nice

thorny solstice
vast cave
weary gust
#

does this mean we're gonna get the movie after all, in like 2030 and TWWWOG is just filler

vast cave
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does this answer your question?

weary gust
#

maybe

dusk terrace
wide glacier
dusk terrace
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Nothing in a story is "unimportant" or filler wasting your time. That is the time you get to know the characters more so it matters when they are in danger.

weary gust
#

but too much filler is a thing

dusk terrace
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Depends on what is too much for the story since each story is different

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Also does nobody just like to see characters exist in situations anymore??

Are you all just demanding constant angst and fights and world ending plots??

I want useless plots! Things that teach us about their house, family, daily life, likes, dislikes, preferences in food. Thats what makes a character fun!!

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Go to the beach like a normal friend group in 90s anime!

weary gust
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thats why i love s1's

weary gust
dusk terrace
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No you werent

thorny solstice
weary gust
sleek python
rough steppe
#

A Cyber Monday we’ll spent! With that, I have started my DVD/Blu-ray collection!

rough steppe
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I kept saying to myself I’d eventually (re)start my physical media journey to combat owning Jack squat in this day and age of streaming. I have now put my money where my mouth is, but I still have a long ways to go. Wish me luck!

thin falcon
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I have many physical media

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Ive got to buy DVD binders even tho I like to display all of my DVDs cause I might be moving soon and I cant take them all with me nko_cry_tears

weary gust
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i gotta question for those who have/had max

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did yall cancel ur subscription once 95% of the cn shows were gone or yall still have it

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at least p+ still has their iconic shows (rip fanpeak & chumpeak😔) 🤷‍♂️

strong spoke
foggy pulsar
thin falcon
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I still have Max

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For adult swim, DC, and the occasional good/shitty animated movie

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And also cause my sister uses it from time to time for the kids

limber thistle
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One piece of physical media I would love to acquire is the Disney 100th anniversary Blu Ray box set

weary gust
thin falcon
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I was able to snack mine on eBay for 300 below market value

weary gust
#

interesting so wha theres 100 movies in it

thin falcon
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Yes

weary gust
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woah

thin falcon
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And a lithograph of Wish

weary gust
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a wat

thin falcon
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And 100 codes for the digital versions

thin falcon
weary gust
thin falcon
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And it was supposed to come with crystal Mickey ears but mine didn’t

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The point is I got mine and I beat the scalpers

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Then the real one dropped in price nko_cry_tears

weary gust
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what a collectors item

thin falcon
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I’m all about those

thorny solstice
thin falcon
#

Yes

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And a couple of misc stuff

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Like James and the Giant Peach, Nightmare Before Christmas, A Goofy Movie, etc

thorny solstice
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Yeah makes sense.

thin falcon
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Cause Disney Animated Movies and Pixar by themselves don’t add to 100

thorny solstice
#

I’ve seen a number of Disney 100 Blu-Rays in stock though it’s usually stuff like Up or Nightmare Before Christmas so go figure.

thin falcon
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Yeah those were the releases for the 100th anniversary

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None of the sequels were included btw

thorny solstice
#

Not even the theatrical ones?

thin falcon
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Obviously those

thorny solstice
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Oh

thin falcon
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You know what I mean

limber thistle
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The only direct to dvd movies in that collection are almost all the Winnie the Pooh movies (except Pooh’s Grand Adventure), Tinker Bell, and the Planes series

strong spoke
rough steppe
rough steppe
lusty basin
weary gust
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when u gotta rewatch the first 5 episodes cuz u love the flash animation in em so much

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also damn the first and second season finales had me at the edge of my seat

lusty basin
weary gust
#

yo anyone else noticed how a lot of 2010s shows have that techno style music

dusk terrace
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Yeah its cause literally the 2010s was all about club techno music

weary gust
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2016 was peak club techno music

frozen sandal
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2010s

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Has anyone seen this video

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the entire of nickelodeon

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after spongebob

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Epic Family:(Grabs Spongebob and throws spongebob and kills him)

vast cave
lean rapids
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Twitter timeline this week

vast cave
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it's all doomposting about "the end of the industry"

limber thistle
#

Meanwhile the Geoffrey’s are tomorrow

limber thistle
#

Dudes
Jeff Garcia died

lean rapids
#

it’s not the end of WB why are people thinking this way 😭

hidden portal
#

Anger drives clicks

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The culture of much of social media is just one of misery

thorny solstice
#

The death of movie theatres will be like the death of cable.

lean rapids
#

I mean MGM is owned by Amazon

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And they still make movies in theaters

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Not all of them are Amazon prime exclusives

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Didn’t Netflix say they’ll still release WB movies in theaters

bitter lava
thorny solstice
#

But Paramount hasn’t exactly been much better in that regard. I don’t think any of their movies even stay in theatres for more than a month anymore.

dire wadi
lusty basin
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"Filler" and it's just basic storytelling..

dire wadi
#

The word filler is kinda annoying. Like not everything has to contribute to an overarching story. Somethings can just have their own individual smaller story.

lusty basin
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When the plot stops for 1-2 episodes it's a filler smh 🤦‍♂

thin falcon
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Filler is a completely anime concept

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Filler is used to describe stuff for an anime that isnt in the manga so that the manga can have time to get ahead and allow the anime to adapt more stuff

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It doesnt apply to western cartoons at all

thorny solstice
#

Sorry to keep kicking it while it’s down but you watch Hazbin Hotel once and there’s a show you’d absolutely welcome some filler into it.

thin falcon
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That wouldnt be filler though

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Anything that helps enhance characterization even if it doesnt move the plot along isnt filler

thin falcon
#

Fuck Warner Bros

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Cause my nephew fell in love with the original Ben 10 series and now it’s nowhere to be found legally

weary gust
#

fuck danny for lying

weary gust
undone sand
bitter lava
lusty basin
bitter lava
#

HUH?!

dusk terrace
lusty basin
rough steppe
fading cloak
#

Rest in peace to both of them 🙏

thorny solstice
#

This is an extremely random question but:

lean rapids
#

I made this image two days ago

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controversial I guess?

thorny solstice
#

Peacock: What shows?

foggy pulsar
#

Ted

thorny solstice
limber thistle
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A lot of DreamWorks shows

weary gust
#

curious george

limber thistle
#

The new Caillou

rough steppe
thorny solstice
#

Whoever’s in charge after the Paramount Skydance merger has been very obedient with the current presidency let’s say.

lean rapids
#

which makes sense cuz pbs kids is an American channel but

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It’s not a Disney show

weary gust
#

just realized pbs kids barely has any original shows to begin with

lean rapids
#

Or was it the Disney channel

weary gust
lean rapids
#

several pbs kids shows has production from pbs member stations

weary gust
#

hm who mentioned me in #gen-chat

vast cave
#

at least it let you watch some shows for free

thin falcon
#

First trailer for Andy Serkis’ animated adaptation of ‘ANIMAL FARM’
︀︀
︀︀Starring Seth Rogen, Gaten Matarazzo, Steve Buscemi, Glenn Close, Laverne Cox, Kieran Culkin, Woody Harrelson, Jim Parsons, Kathleen Turner and Iman Vellani.
︀︀
︀︀In theaters on May 1, 2026

**💬 398 🔁 453 ❤️ 6.0K 👁️ 432.3K **

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Oh this

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This is terrible

foggy pulsar
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I remember my parents getting an advanced screener of this on the Angel Studios app. I watched it with them for about 5 minutes before I peaced out

thin falcon
#

You shouldve stayed

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Bask in the cringe

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Bruh, when this shit comes out, 1000% I'm making a video about it

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Shit I might make a video now

vast cave
limber thistle
#

I’m sure most of us have read the book at least once when we were all in the 9th grade, and this is nothing like the book

dusk terrace
wide glacier
#

wasn't an original thing made by them

limber thistle
#

I’m willing to give this movie the benefit of the doubt since advertising nowadays have not been that great ahem TF One

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Especially for animated films

weary gust
#

it was mostly just a writing class

warped halo
#

as in, "did they just steal the name" levels of different

thorny solstice
# thorny solstice
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For those who watch it, how do you prefer to watch Family Guy?

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total_votes

11

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2

victor_answer_text

Short/OOC Clips

foggy pulsar
#

My updated Amazing Digital Circus ranking (best to worst):
6, 3, 7, 1, 5, 2, 4

strong spoke
lusty basin
lusty basin
dusk terrace
#

The mormon animation studio that has openly made basically propoganda about their own religion and big statements on socialism vs capitalism sure as hell isnt going to understand how to adapt a story that warns about classism.

lusty basin
#

Is this how the original story went??

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I see it's not but how did it originally go..

dusk terrace
#

The original story to animal farm is simple. Animals overthrow the farmer and run the farm under "equal" terms. No one should be on two legs or wear clothes like humans did. Every animal is equal. But once they started getting successful, the pigs started putting themselves in important places. Higher than the animals. Over time they wore clothes, walked on two legs, lived in the farmers house. And later on cause the death of one or more animals for their own greed. THey became just as bad as the human they kicked out.

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It went from "everyone is equal, we trust each other!" to "actually were more important you should trust us" and went downhill from there

lusty basin
#

Ohhh...yikes..

dusk terrace
#

So I dont think I want to hear my lesson about classism from a company that produced a tuttle twins episode about how socialism is evil and bad and capitialism "always works"

thin falcon
#

It’s an allegory for communism

dusk terrace
#

I dont want to hear an allegory of communism from people who propagated capitalism as better than socialism in the worst way possible.

thin falcon
#

Snowball is Lenin, Napoleon is Stalin

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And I think Old Major is Tolksky? Or however it’s spelled?

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Or Marx?

dusk terrace
#

Yeah I understand that. I just dont trust that studio to tell the story

thin falcon
#

Oh that’s what you meant

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I thought you were talking about Orwell himself lmao

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Yeah nah tho, they completely miss the point of the story

dusk terrace
#

Ive seen the other animated version so I get the idea of the story and its horrific yes, but well done to get the point across

thin falcon
#

There’s also a Hallmark version with Patrick Stewart and Kelsey Grammer that was pretty good

dusk terrace
#

What

thin falcon
#

Yup

thin falcon
#

It’s live action

#

And the robotics on the puppets look really good actually

thin falcon
#

Yup

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I might make this video after all

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Copyright wouldn’t be on my ass as hard for this one

dusk terrace
#

I need to watch this later

#

The hallmark one

limber thistle
#

The original animated film does change the ending however

dusk terrace
#

Elaborate bc I didnt read the book nor was made to

limber thistle
#

I don’t remember exactly, but in the book it ends with the other animals just kinda going mad because of all the changes, while the movie changes it to the animals rebelling against Napoleon’s regime

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It’s only like that because the film was partially funded by the CIA

dusk terrace
#

Ahh

thin falcon
#

The other movie ends with ||Napoleon’s whole empire collapsing and a whole new family coming in to buy the farm||

rough steppe
#

Hey speaking of animals, just got back from Zootopia 2. Pretty enjoyable overall. I lit up when I heard Patrick Warburton as the new mayor! He's become one of my favorite VAs X)

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Also, ||The avians are coming, the avians are coming!||

weary gust
#

are there that much adult jokes in it as ppl say

rough steppe
#

I’d say no, or rather I didn’t really notice, though the movie did get a few chuckles outta me

#

I will also say that I feel this was some sort of omen because I've gotten back into animals in recent times since when I was a kid, moreso animal classification/taxonomy. What makes it an even bigger omen is the fact that--Hmm, how do I say I've gravitated towards mammals without coming off as a furry

weary gust
#

this show's so mean-spirited towards eric its not even funny

lilac pewter
#

Reminder of the name, it looks familiar

weary gust
#

sidekick

lilac pewter
#

Oh right

vast cave
#

as a kid, I'd feel frustrated if a character doesn't deserve it

dusk terrace
#

The character has to at least deserve it somehow like Johnny Bravo

bitter lava
dusk terrace
#

Fun fact: Eric Cartman was based on the idea of Archie Bunker. The guys who made it were inspired by the character Archie Bunker who was a cranky racist old man and ended up learning things through experience and changed at major times. Otherwise he stayed to his own choices.

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But Cartman was meant to be punished and not really change half the time bc the point is hes stubborn

foggy pulsar
dusk terrace
#

I dont know that actually

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He's written in the same idea but his intention is more line with the times Archie listens and changes compared to being stubborn like cartman

vast cave
#

I'm so sorry, ArcherOnSpace

thin falcon
#

Good thing I have them downloaded

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Well…not the blissmas or the Hack A Ween

#

Should probably get on that

dusk terrace
#

Sigh
I wonder if they'll be put up on peacock

thin falcon
#

Id sail the seven seas jsut to be safe

dusk terrace
#

Whats that thing about how kids cant access cartoons now bc its all being taken away?

#

Yeah

foggy pulsar
#

They're Netflix originals. Where do they have to go?

dusk terrace
#

Yes and no

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THeyre made by dreamworks so they can put it on peacock

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NBC owns it

vast cave
lost anchor
#

Got around to finishing yet another cartoon, this time being the Cartoon Network show Megas XLR.

I heard people say it's an underrated gem, and I'll say, it was a fun watch.

weary gust
#

guys 6 more days 🐞 🐈‍⬛ 1️⃣0️⃣

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yo rmbr when it was on nick

junior ruin
#

yep

rough steppe
#

Quick draw after hearing his passing... When I was a kid, I thought Pip and Sheen’s voices were completely different at the time.. probably due to the personalities and tone exhibited. (Sheen being more energetic and unhinged while Pip being more neutral and laid back) That’s how I learned about voice actors and their ability to come up with...

Likes

63856

lean rapids
#

I tried a recreation

weary gust
#

oh shit i just found out pucca's originally from the family channel (rip) & not jetix

weary gust
#

guys its now december 15 ykw that means 😮

#

thats right, bunsen is a beast (and the flash fop episodes) was greenlit 10 years ago today 😄

dusk terrace
#

My reaction to that information

foggy pulsar
strong spoke
#

this might be the greatest day in animation history

vast cave
#

it only lasted like one season

amber merlin
#

So here’s a curious question

#

Do y’all prefer NickToons, Cartoon Network or Disney Channel Animation when it comes to handling Romance?

fading cloak
#

Cartoon network

#

Its more varied id say

amber merlin
#

I feel like NickToons does have more realistic romance that I could think of

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Jimmy And Cindy are top tier in that regard

dusk terrace
#

Nick focuses on funnies, not kissing

keen bear
#

For Rigleen and Bubbline.

dusk terrace
#

Bubbline that wasnt allowed and had to subtly be hidden for YEARS

thorny solstice
#

Don’t forget Garnet who pretty much got the show cancelled until it was allowed a epilogue season

dusk terrace
#

Bubbline was even before that

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The door episode and "The Sky Witch" were the two that cemented any vague idea the two were dating or had dated in the past with tensions.

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It wasnt until later seasons they just started showing them holding hands alot as """"Friends""""

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and in the finale finale kiss since the show was over anyways

lost anchor
#

Finally finished Season 1 of Wonderfully Weird World of Gumball

rough steppe
#

And I finally finished Inside Job

weary gust
#

granted the old shows were nearing the end of their rerun life around this time and nicktoons became trash but still

rough steppe
#

Literal trash

bitter lava
#

And most of Nick's timeslots are taken up by movies.

thorny solstice
#

While not the first time Paramount has done something like this, it still feels like Paramount thinking this is the first SpongeBob movie

junior ruin
#

i find it kinda cool

thorny solstice
lean rapids
#

What the fuck

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Not this one apparently

#

Oh look another one

weary gust
lean rapids
weary gust
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yk smth

lean rapids
#

Here’s another one

warped halo
lean rapids
weary gust
warped halo
lusty basin
keen bear
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No way.....

lost anchor
dusk terrace
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Alot of people will. Trust. You do not comprehend how lazy people are and how enticing this sounds

thorny solstice
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And as I assume with a lot of “Disney adults”, they probably aren’t on social media enough to really be aware of deeper implications of this

dusk terrace
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They are and aren't. If Instagram is a good pool of samples of how people act, I noticed some do care and others dont and will use whatever pleases them because they dont want to understand or just cant

thorny solstice
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But at the same time, they probably won’t think that much about and just find it funny that the machine is trying to act like Tigger.

lost anchor
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anwyays which cartoon should I watch next chat?

hidden portal
hidden portal
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Which…

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Blech

thorny solstice
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Yes, watching fat people break things with boulders must be barrels of laughter

hidden portal
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At least, that’s the last AI-generated thing I recall him watching

weary gust
sleek python
thin falcon
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My brain is going to fucking explode

weary gust
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🙁

vast cave
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oh damn

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is Netflix not paying for licensing these shows or something?

weary gust
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ngl the show was better than the shit nick was airing at the time

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at least from what i rmbr

vast cave
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I've seen some Dreamworks shows be leaving off the platform, with their release to other platform being unknown

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which it's frustrating for people who want to watch them legally

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and proves more how streaming services aren't guarantee for accessibility

thorny solstice
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But to be fair, neither is physical because it’s unrealistic you can make a DVD for every show that exists.

vast cave
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but at least, you can watch as long as you can in DVD

weary gust
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imagine making a show for a streaming service only for it to become lost media years later

thorny solstice
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Don’t pretend I didn’t see that flag. I’m not even sure if piracy is safe from any flaws.

weary gust
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naughty ads 🥺

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like always those no other ones :/

dusk terrace
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I would suggest you dont pirate then

thorny solstice
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Always the chance the website gets nuked.

dusk terrace
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Also in general you should use adblock to get rid of ads to begin with

weary gust
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these websites are tracking down of em nowadays

thorny solstice
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Yes, but in a way, that’s the upside of your average pirate. Determination.

midnight cosmos
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DETERMINATION!!!

thorny solstice
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Even if it does sort of become an endless cycle

vast cave
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I was going to discuss about this, but I don't want to be warned by the mod yet again over piracy

thorny solstice
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Fair enough.

vast cave
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yeah, it's generally recommended using an AdBlocker (uBlock Origin is what I recommend) to block any bad ad around, not just piracy websites

vast cave
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I feel like they'd need to stop overly focusing on taking down piracy websites and focus on trying to get the customers to pay for the products they make, because the root of the problem is their service

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make the stuff accessible, make the stuff convenient, easy and comfortable to use

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give the customers more options

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all they ask is a good service and content

dusk terrace
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Captain Underpants, they sleep
She-ra, they riot

limber thistle
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Meanwhile the He-Man shows are still on there

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I think

dusk terrace
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Its most likely a dreamworks thing bc of the deal with Paramount and WB

limber thistle
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Are the RttE seasons of the Dragons series still on there?

dusk terrace
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I dont know

weary gust
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guys today's the day 👨👩👦👧👶🐕 3️⃣6️⃣

weary gust
thin falcon
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I mean I’ll save them for preservation purposes

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But I fucking hate Pinky Malinkey lol

thin falcon
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Here’s something interesting for you btw

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Kipo and the wonderbeasts is on dvd

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The whole series

dusk terrace
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Now do it with Captain Underpants, Dreamworks