#要决心忘记,我便记不起 need help parsing

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raw carbon
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Even if I'm determined to forgot

I can't seem to remember?

Wtf does that even mean.

snow depot
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I am determined to forget certain things, I will forget them completely.

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This is a song lyrics by Faye Wang called 约定, she is a popular Chinese pop singer. Here is the full lyrics:
"忘掉天地彷佛也想不起自己,仍未忘相约看漫天黄叶远飞,就算会与你分离凄绝的戏,要决心忘记我便记不起"

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To understand this completely, we have to combine the lyrics from the contents of the song. This lyrics means that: I can forget everything, even myself and it caused me to lose myself. It seems like there is only you in my world, you occupy everything in my world. Even there is one day that I will forget about you, it will be dramatic of course, but if I do want to forget about you, I will completely forget about you and everything besides you.

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So Faye Wang is trying to describe the determined heart by lovers (in this situation is the female or girlfriend). Since the date I love you (boyfriend), I could even lose myself since I am too crazy about this love and you (bf). If we break up I could even go crazy that I would not even recognise and be afraid of myself. So I have to forget about you before the part where we have to be separated.

raw carbon
raw carbon
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Ughhh so thanks for your detailed response! I get like what the song is talking about now, but I still find the sentence a little bit hard to understand

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Here one second

snow depot
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Faye Wang is girl. She is describing the situation in the perspective of woman.

raw carbon
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Ohh

snow depot
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Better way to describe it is:

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After all the times we had been together, it was a remarkable and unforgettable memories. But I (the gf) couldn’t lose you (the bf), because if I lose you (the bf) I will lose my mind. Instead of experiencing the sad time after breaking up, I am going to forget about you now and never recall it again.

raw carbon
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忘掉天地仿佛也想不起自己
仍未忘相约看漫天黄叶远飞
就算会与你分离 凄绝的戏
要决心忘记我便记不起
明日天地 只恐怕认不出自己

Even if I forget everything, I still can't seem to remember myself

Still haven't forgotten our rendez-vous - we planned to go see the yellow leaves floating in the sky

So even if I be separated from you, this miserable scene. If you (is this you or I?) decide to forget, I won't remember the world of tomorrow.

I'm only afraid I can't recognize myself

raw carbon
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That's so crazy

snow depot
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Remove the last lyrics then it’s a complete story.

raw carbon
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which last lyric

snow depot
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明日天地

raw carbon
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Is 我便记不起 and 明日天地 linked

snow depot
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忘掉天地仿佛也想不起自己
仍未忘相约看漫天黄叶远飞
就算会与你分离 凄绝的戏
要决心忘记我便记不起

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Nope

raw carbon
snow depot
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listen to the music

raw carbon
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Here's the song on Spotify

snow depot
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two seperate groups

raw carbon
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hm okay

snow depot
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one is 副歌 part 1 one is part 2

raw carbon
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Is it 我决心忘记

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or

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你决心忘记

snow depot
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我决心忘记你和我一起的故事

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还有"你"这个人,也会在我的脑海里不复存在

raw carbon
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我便記不起你????

snow depot
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约定这首歌 is very hard to understand if your first language is not Chinese tho.

snow depot
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如果我决心忘记, 我便记不起(你)

raw carbon
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wait okay so why is there a 就算 in the 就算會與你分離 then

raw carbon
snow depot
raw carbon
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就算相當於even嗎

那為啥要說

就算你肯能會離我而去

我要決心忘記,我便記不起

感覺跟據你之前的解釋

It should be smth like 因為 ur gonna leave, I wanna forget u

snow depot
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it literally means 'even tho'

raw carbon
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Even in english I don't understand it 😭

snow depot
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Uh.

raw carbon
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Even though you are going to leave, I have to forget you ?

snow depot
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It’s… a Chinese thing… it is what it meant in Chinese

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I usually say it like that too

raw carbon
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Okay I get actlly lol

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Oops

snow depot
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就算你今天出门,你可能还会回来

raw carbon
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就算 is more like if ?

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hypothetical

snow depot
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就算我没有赢得这个奖状,我依旧是班级最棒的

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I would say if and although

raw carbon
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Yeah but it's different here right

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because

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Here ur saying despite XYZ I will continue doing what I planned on doing

snow depot
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Don’t try to dig into the meaning between every word. You have to understand it in between context.

raw carbon
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but when we say 就算你離開了,我會忘記你 or smth it sounds like

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U were tryna forgot them already?

snow depot
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I am going to*

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Rather than I try to*

raw carbon
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Doesn't the 就算 give an impression that it's an obstacle to u do doing smth but ur still gonna do it?

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我本來就想把你忘掉。就算你要離開了,我依然是想把你忘掉.

This impression (?)

snow depot
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It sounds more like: if I have made a decision to forget you, I am going to forget you. (But I haven’t made the decision YET)

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I will or maybe make the decision to forget you, because I don’t know whether I (singer) want to forget about you( boyfriend)

raw carbon
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okay lemme think

snow depot
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Sure sure, lmk if you still need my help. But try to understand the meaning in between context rather than literal meaning

raw carbon
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i get the context i j like it when I understand everything 😭

snow depot
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It’s hard to understand if you literally try to understand the literal meaning rather than figurative

raw carbon
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Ahh

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I'm still stuck on the 就算 💀

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idk what it's doing in the sentence

snow depot
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It’s just what we say usually

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It doesn’t mean something just like emphasising

raw carbon
snow depot
raw carbon
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若想忘记,我是可以的

snow depot
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对对对差不多

raw carbon
snow depot
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是一样的

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"的话" 结尾一般是说 if...

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我要是去上班的话 = if i am going to work

raw carbon
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这里不是指if吗?

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要决心忘记

snow depot
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对的

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是可以的

raw carbon
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理解了

snow depot
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你对于一句话可以有无数的联想,才能证明这个歌词是颇有兴趣的,是很美丽的歌词

raw carbon
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平时听歌时我不会去仔细的听歌词😂

snow depot
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所以这就是为什么歌手以前写的歌词都特别好听,而且可以有很多种解释的办法

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我可以给你一个例子

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青花瓷 - 周杰伦
天青色等烟雨 而我在等你

snow depot
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夜曲 - 周杰伦

当鸽子不再象征和平
我终于被提醒 广场上喂食的是秃鹰
我用漂亮的押韵 形容被掠夺一空的爱情

snow depot
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如愿 - 王菲 Faye Wang

而我将 爱你所爱的人间
愿你所愿的笑颜
你的手我蹒跚在牵
请带我去明天
如果说 你曾苦过我的甜
我愿活成你的愿
愿不枉啊 愿勇往啊
这盛世每一天

raw carbon
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但是有的時候感覺歌詞是為了好聽而寫的 完全沒有意義

snow depot
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我建议你去听一首特别难理解的歌曲,现在暂时没有人给一个正确的解释,因为那首歌有无数个解释办法

snow depot
raw carbon
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你觉得毛不易的歌怎么样

snow depot
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我推荐的歌是 我也很想他 - 孙燕姿

raw carbon
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好的

snow depot
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毛不易的一首歌我很喜欢

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给你给我

raw carbon
raw carbon
snow depot
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孙燕姿最好的歌我认为是 我怀念的

raw carbon
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但是沒有刻意得聽歌詞😂

snow depot
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还有 Realize / 我很好

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The Dark Day我也推荐你去听

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这个歌词也是特别好 特别有蕴意

raw carbon
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👌👌”

raw carbon
snow depot
raw carbon
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還沒

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你聽過赵雷的歌吗

raw carbon
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她吐词比较清楚

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周杰伦我有的时候真的完全听不懂💀

snow depot
snow depot
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成都,我还会弹唱这首歌

raw carbon
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我也会😂😂

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我特别喜欢

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这首听过吗

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首*

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中国歌就这一点比美国歌好

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歌词更优雅一点 更美

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感觉美国的很多歌都很俗

snow depot
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听过 南方姑娘特别好听

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美国的歌不能算俗,是通俗易懂。

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美国的歌你一听就知道什么意思,不会去使用别的词和句子来美化意思