dont know what im doing wrong Kane wrath online wont launch

[rugged fern]

Hey guys can someone tell what im doing wrong i already installed everything but still it wont launch
i have a account and everything but still when i enter the good password/username i say this (traduction in english, Connexion to kane's wrath impossible)

[cunning mango]

http://server.cnc-online.net/downloads/NATNegTest.rar Download and extract that. Run the .bat file and show me the output.

Through a screenshot of the output

[cunning mango]

Steam or EA app btw?

[rugged fern]

steam

which of them u want to launch?

[cunning mango]

the .bat file

[mighty belfry]

GG @rugged fern, you just advanced to level 1!

[cunning mango]

ok, your network setup seems to be ok

have you adjusted KW in any way with mods or tweaks?

[rugged fern]

nope

i installed the game and added right away cnc online and it asked me to install i think a patch or something but thats it

[cunning mango]

Ok, can you download the tacitus installer from the C&C:Online website to reinstall Tacitus?

Maybe that is the issue

[rugged fern]

alright ill try again

[cunning mango]

Maybe the auto-updater did something wrong

can you confirm that the old C&C:Online launcher has been removed from your computer?

[rugged fern]

i didnt have it

[cunning mango]

oh, you meant the LAA patch

[cunning mango]

ok, try this and if that doesn't work, I hope others might have an idea

[rugged fern]

Yea thats what it downloaded right after i launched the game with tacitus

is there a way to uninstall tacitus do? so i can reinstall it afterwards

[cunning mango]

it doesn't download it, but apply it by itself

[rugged fern]

ah okay

[cunning mango]

yeah, running the dowloaded installer should give the uninstall option

If I'm correct

[rugged fern]

no option to uninstall 😭

[tardy flax]

runn as admin

[fluid kernel]

Double slash error (again)

[mighty belfry]

GG @fluid kernel, you just advanced to level 6!

[tardy flax]

runn the installation as an administrator

[rugged fern]

alright

[rugged fern]

same thing

[fluid kernel]

Open regedit and navigate to :
Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Electronic Arts\Electronic Arts\Command and Conquer 3 Kanes Wrath

From there, you should see a "InstallPath" entry.

Normaly you only need to remove one / in the end of the value inside

[rugged fern]

with administrator privilege

[rugged fern]

alright let me check

[fluid kernel]

can you give me a screenshot before apply the edit?

[tardy flax]

if you dont know how to, a simple script that do it for you

[fluid kernel]

I would* like a proof of steam version having a double slash

[rugged fern]

i just tried the script

[mighty belfry]

GG @rugged fern, you just advanced to level 2!

[rugged fern]

thats my version of steam

[fluid kernel]

I did mean the registry itself, but it doesnt matter dont worry

[rugged fern]

alright

[fluid kernel]

Try the installer again after applying the script

[tardy flax]

ok than try installing Tacitus again

run as admin

[rugged fern]

doesnt work still BUT the installer worked do

cus i got the menu

[tardy flax]

yeah it successfully installed, what doesnt work?

[rugged fern]

it says it cant connect

[tardy flax]

seems like firewall blocking it?

[fluid kernel]

Was it working before with the cco launcher?

[rugged fern]

didnt have it , i just installed it for the first time

im a first timer with cnc 🫣

[fluid kernel]

A user have the similar problem as you. Steam. Tacitus installation error. Once everything finally setup, online doesn't work neither

[tardy flax]

if you go to option ingame do you see version 1.3 on bottom left?

[rugged fern]

yap

[tardy flax]

go there

[rugged fern]

GOT IT

that was the prob it wasnt selecting the good IP

[tardy flax]

yeah

[fluid kernel]

Oh, great 🙂

[rugged fern]

thank u guys !!

[tardy flax]

Dont forget to join us in the 4v4 😄

[rugged fern]

not yet let me warm up first and surely imma get my ass whoop i suck at rts hahahaha

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-buisness-gif-26885105

[solar condor]

@tardy flax Mind if I link you to another support section?

[cunning mango]

Hey yeah, weird

[fluid kernel]

I do really wonder what's going on with that error. Is it just some users or every steam users face this problem

[hallow cairn]

I'm having a similar issue where I can get into a match but it won't connect.

Trying to play with my friend and the connection just dies.

[cunning mango]

I have the same issue with the trailing slash

Shall I put this maybe in the known issues list for CCHyper to analyze?

I have it also for tiberium wars

[fluid kernel]

It's when there is a double \\ in the end i do believe

One slash in the end is fine since it's like that with DVD version

And it worked flawlessly for me with TW and KW right from the first attempt

[tardy flax]

they already know

[cunning mango]

Oh, then my install path is ok right?

[fluid kernel]

Do you had error with the tacitus installer?

[cunning mango]

Yeah, but we are compiling an extensive known issues list to inform CCHyper better, but to also make it easier for us to tell the community whether an issue is known or not

[solar condor]

Yeah its fine no double slash

[cunning mango]

Testing again now

Nope

[fluid kernel]

I didnt had the chance to capture screenshot from player that had this error

As they quickly applied the fix and was repaired

[cunning mango]

here it already complains about one backslash at the end

but the issue is the double backslash yeah

[fluid kernel]

But steam was apparently reverting the registry, because i had to make the player close steam for it to work because as soon he try install it again, he didn't worked because of that

[cunning mango]

Curious as to what is causing this, suspect some kind of tweak or mod

Certainly isn't default Steam installscript behavior

[fluid kernel]

I suspect maybe old registry fix or maybe steam fixed the regedit, idk

[solar condor]

I suspect it could be some kind of steam install path error if this is the case

[fluid kernel]

There was in the past, and user had to fix registry, but now steam apply the correct one

So i do believe tacitus took the missing \ into consideration, but steam also updated it, so now it give error

[solar condor]

Ah okay makes sense

[fluid kernel]

It's my theory but i am not sure about it

[solar condor]

Its very weird for sure though

[fluid kernel]

And since they worked so hard these time, i assume first a end-user error from players

[cunning mango]

I see nothing strange here

So, see the issue happening at rare times, but with no pattern it is hard to note it down as a known issue

If anyone ever suspects a pattern, let me know

[mighty belfry]

GG @cunning mango, you just advanced to level 9!

[cunning mango]

https://tenor.com/view/toby-the-office-nobody-cares-no-o-ne-cares-gif-12308532

[solar condor]

I find it weird because my tib wars gave the dll error. Repaired via steam. Then ran as admin. Installer worked on the tib wars files. Ran the game. Got shoved into an error. Ran game as admin, all good

[cunning mango]

Weird

[fluid kernel]

Is the script execute one code for all platform?

[cunning mango]

Yeah, the installscript is for all platforms

There can be only one... installscript

[fluid kernel]

DVD version have one \ in the end. Need to know how steam registry installpath is

[cunning mango]

(not passive-aggressive, highlander reference)

[cunning mango]

Is the same, one backslach at the end

For me at least

[fluid kernel]

I do believe it was or missing one, or having a double backslash way long in the past for steam

What is strange, is when we do fixed one player registry with steam open or opening the game for testing if it still work before installation of tacitus, well the registry got reverted back and tacitus gave back the error, had to repeat the process with steam closed to be sure, install tacitus and then it has been installed fine

[cunning mango]

well, looked at the installscript from my backed up last version... backslashes are the same as in my existing installscript in the latest version

previous version

[fluid kernel]

It was for TW players btw, to be more precise

[cunning mango]

Well, KW players are suffering from it now haha

[fluid kernel]

i don't understand the %installdir%\\CNC3TW\\ why this cnc3tw reference when KW have only %installdir%\\

[tardy flax]

its the dummy file

[cunning mango]

This is TW previous version

[tardy flax]

kw needs TW to launch

[cunning mango]

This was KW

[cunning mango]

Yes my horse is correct

[fluid kernel]

Oh yeah, the standalone

[tardy flax]

it need the reg key and dummy files in CNC3TW

[fluid kernel]

yeah yeah, i builded my own after seeing how it was done to custom my filepath too

[cunning mango]

Then it must have been fixed with the launch of the new version of Steam, because apart from the newest version and the previous one, that is the only time the installscript file was adjusted; https://steamdb.info/patchnotes/13579768/

[tardy flax]

it's basically this https://kaneswrath.com/download/kanes_wrath_no_tiberium_wars_spoofer/

[fluid kernel]

Oh yeah you made it an installer too :p

[cunning mango]

The good/bad old days haha

[fluid kernel]

I did used an old standalone, but i couldnt choose the path, so i grabbed the ressource, the reg edit, and zipped that ^^

But what is exactly your script @cunning mango I didn't understood the context of it actually

[cunning mango]

Those were the official installscript files shipped with the Steam releases for proper installation, the part that I showed was regarding the proper setup of the registry keys

Not my work thus

[fluid kernel]

Oh, alright, got it

[cunning mango]

All games on Steam ship with it

Devs can adjust it for their games, like CCHyper did

[fluid kernel]

Oh yeah i see now, i just never opened any installscript from steam until now, haha thanks, you teached me something very interesting

[cunning mango]

Those are hella interesting haha, especially for more classic games

Which rely much on registry keys... and the circle comes round

[fluid kernel]

Can you show me the installscript for TW specifically?

the true one, not the dummy

[cunning mango]

You can open it with any text editor

Notepad++ is awesome

[fluid kernel]

yep yep i did it

i saw the firewall last line pointing to 1.09

its the previous one then?

[cunning mango]

Try again, lack of sleep is kicking in

[fluid kernel]

same file for me

[cunning mango]

ok, let me take a look

[fluid kernel]

But nvm, i was just curious if the 1.10 was adding firewall entry for TW

[cunning mango]

You are awesome, this is an error in the installscript

Might be the cause of connection issues

[fluid kernel]

o_O

[mighty belfry]

GG @fluid kernel, you just advanced to level 7!

[cunning mango]

no, people can't edit the installscript, it wil revert itself on boot

Gonna add this to the known issues list

[fluid kernel]

But even after manually adding that rule to a user firewall windows, online don't work

but maybe, maybe

[cunning mango]

pity, but this still isn't right

[fluid kernel]

show me the one for KW just to see if it's the same or not

[cunning mango]

Added as a known issue

[fluid kernel]

I honestly don't want to buy it again when i have bought the dvd version

[cunning mango]

what is latest KW version, 1.3 right?

[fluid kernel]

yep

[cunning mango]

Same bloody issue, I love you man

[fluid kernel]

Check ra3 while on this? while im not sure if that can interfer so much

[cunning mango]

ok, give me latest versions of CnC4, RA3 and Uprising

[fluid kernel]

I don't know them at all,i don't play any, but if kw is alike, the others are probably too

But it's only for user who use the default windows firewall

[cunning mango]

Uprising too

[fluid kernel]

Other firewall should popup a dialogbox for allowing transfer

But maybe, try telling some user to check their windows firewall and create a new rule to point the latest *.dat version of their game. If they don't use third party firewall, windows will never popup a dialogbox i think, and the connection is maybe denied actually

Because actually, when using the new version, it doesnt try to add the rule anymore, because the prior version, already did it, it's not asking anymore when you're actually going to multiplayer for the first time after installation

[cunning mango]

It will ask people for permission to go offline, but many people get scared by that or find it annoying, or confuse it with a UAC prompt and then click it away, causing all kinds of issues

Found firewall exception issues with Generals, ZH, TW, KW, RA3, Upr and TT

Generals and ZH forgot to add the main game.dat as an exception

others all pointing to old executables by accident

[fluid kernel]

The problem, with compatibility, we need both last version and new version to be allowed by the windows firewall

[cunning mango]

All documented in the known issues list

[fluid kernel]

Because of people switching back to that version, we cannot edit the old rule, need a one, so the script will require now the both

I don't know if any bat or ps file could create those rule automatically for lambda user

Or if we wait for steam to update the script

But this can explain a lot of user not being able to go online anymore, suggest them to use the tacitus switcher just to check if their previous *.dat have internet access, If yes, then you got the culprist there. If no, it's network/isp/vpn related

[cunning mango]

Added it to the known issues to add all executables as exceptions as well or at least the previous version

[cunning mango]

CCHyper has publicly stated he plans on hotfixes

[fluid kernel]

Nice to hear

[cunning mango]

Don't know when this would get pushed though

[fluid kernel]

It's more probably rest time for now, maybe few days. They deserve it

I already feel the pain of Edvin to read trough all that lol

[cunning mango]

Highly doubt honestly that this is the main issue, only probably for people who dumbly click no when that popup to be allowed to connect online pops up

[fluid kernel]

This is also probably interesting to read https://discord.com/channels/264522892455182346/1346142485964914809

They are probably a lot not paying attention to that firewall permissions

[cunning mango]

Ok, poor @gusty torrent: summary for you, the Steam installscripts contain errors; firewall exception issues with Generals, ZH, TW, KW, RA3, Upr and TT. Causes the game not to have their main game's executables added as a firewall exception during install. Only probably for people who dumbly click no when that popup to be allowed to connect online pops up this will result in issues, but a lot get scared maybe by it and hit no haha

[cunning mango]

Probably

CCHyper obviously forgot this in all the chaos, can't blame him. The poor man has to mostly do it alone in combination with one EA employee and few community helpers

[fluid kernel]

Well, we should probably stop here, i think we spammed it a bit too much as we completely derailed from main topic lol, DM me if you want

[cunning mango]

It might actually be the main cause of the original issue

[fluid kernel]

Yeah i absolutely understand, i saw a bunch of them working hard all the time on the discord activites

[cunning mango]

Edvin, if we derailed this topic in your opinion; bite me

Thanks for the help man @fluid kernel

You noticed the first sprinkle of the issue

[fluid kernel]

You're welcome, i desired to help where i actually can. My pleasure