👋 Goodbye Monthly Vote Reset, It's Been

[daring mica]

🧵 👦

[hidden marsh]

ok

[daring mica]

ok

[hard talon]

Very nice, thank you Veld 🙂

[marsh stratus]

that seems like a very interesting change!

[cerulean knot]

How are endpoints to get voters etc gonna work

[silent wind]

W!!!

[daring mica]

Nothing here changes

[umbral pollen]

Within the 31 day window presumably lol

[distant oar]

YESS

[floral mango]

What does it mean? Someone please explain

[thorny star]

no more vote resets

[exotic jackal]

so you mean it's still gonna look if the user voted less than 12 hours ago?

[white sonnet]

👋 👋 👋

[daring mica]

Yes, users can vote every 12 hours, but votes last on your count for 31 days

[floral mango]

It will stay forever? What about ranking

[daring mica]

so if I vote on my birthday (Jan 15), your bot will keep this vote until Feb 15

[bitter leaf]

So rankings change more often?

[exotic jackal]

oh okay so the users can vote once in every 1 month?

[marsh stratus]

it will use the last 31 days vote count

[wind hemlock]

every 12h, still

[daring mica]

no

[runic bobcat]

Sounds interesting

[dusty ice]

wohooooooo

[daring mica]

The voting process does not change

[latent shale]

Does that mean the current months votes won't disappear

[daring mica]

this score changes

[wind hemlock]

im surprised how hard it is to read tbh

[exotic jackal]

so you mean the number stays for 1 month

[floral mango]

oh okay

[obsidian bolt]

itll be a rolling count of the last 31 days, not month based

[slim salmon]

So it’s very similar to the current system it just doesn’t reset on the first of every month but rather just gets the last 31 days

[bitter leaf]

Hi Xiuh😁

[obsidian bolt]

omg youre still a certified clown

[exotic jackal]

oh is it? @daring mica

[latent shale]

Yeah I get that, but will the votes clear for this month before the update or not

[scenic trail]

Good! I hope the next feature will be localization for bot pages. 👀

[bitter leaf]

Been so long 😭forgot I still had this

[daring mica]

lets say your bot launches jan 1st. your chart for votes would look like this now (bottom)

assuming you keep the same amount of votes in feb

[hidden marsh]

this update will help a lot of bots, mine too

[pliant vigil]

[bitter leaf]

So it’s more rewarding to those that have consistent voters

[obsidian bolt]

I don't believe the current votes will reset and instead itll start the 31 day window reset starting this evening

[whole kelp]

So you can still loose votes?

[errant forge]

bro they stopped voting on new month or what 😭

[latent shale]

Great 👍🏻👌🏻

[daring mica]

yes ofcourse they expire after 31 days

top.gg keeps a list of every vote made for your bot. we show you the count of all votes in the last 31 days

[steady cape]

Basically instead of it going to 0 each month, singular votes have an expire date of exactly one month.

[daring mica]

Yes

[misty edge]

Nice change, absolutely

[tranquil torrent]

Im so confused lol

[errant forge]

oooooooooohhhhhhhhh

[misty edge]

Server webhooks next? 🙌🙌

[latent shale]

It will show the votes for the last 31 days without resetting

[nova bone]

huge

[daring mica]

VERY soon

[steady cape]

Veld promote me to community manager for that explanation thank you very much ❤️

[jagged wagon]

Nice draw

[misty edge]

Is a day considered like est, gmt…?

[daring mica]

@obsidian bolt get this man his mod role back

[tranquil torrent]

But it will just keep going off and not reset? Like this confusing me so much

[daring mica]

ur cooked now

[nova bone]

gj veldy

[rigid ermine]

I can see that this is going to be botted with some accounts and scripts

[obsidian bolt]

i miss u miyuka

[pliant vigil]

want that style for ur icon?

[jagged wagon]

That a nice update

[steady cape]

Miss yall too ❤️

[daring mica]

thank u cassie i now have 2 more things to manage in google cloud

[jagged wagon]

[nova bone]

:3

[scenic trail]

no. bot page localization, pls

[nova bone]

grats

[warm whale]

Ic so if someone voted on 5 jan for xyz their vote will disappear after 31 days ( if no more votes from that user )

[obsidian bolt]

We take vote botting very seriously and address it as needed

[fast agate]

each vote individually lasts 31 days

[latent shale]

How do you guys identify bots voting on the sites and inflating the votes tho

[misty edge]

🙌

[steady cape]

Lets say I vote today and again in a week from now.

The vote today expires on 2/30/26 and the vote a week from now expires 3/7/26 or whever it would be.

[bitter leaf]

W explanation

[warm whale]

Ah got it thanks

[tranquil torrent]

OHHHHH so if I vote now, I will be gone after 31 days

[topaz rivet]

🙏🙏🙏

🙏🙏🙏

🙏🙏🙏

🙏🙏🙏

🙏🙏🙏

[tranquil torrent]

Unless I vote again

[misty edge]

Ok bro

[bitter leaf]

We get it

[topaz rivet]

thanks

thanks

thanks

thanks

🙏🙏🙏

[misty edge]

Someone ban this kid

[obsidian bolt]

please stop spamming

[bitter leaf]

I think felps is happy

[topaz rivet]

oh, sorry...

[floral mango]

My Vexel Bot died btw

[tranquil torrent]

OHHHHH so if I vote now, I will be gone after 31 days Unless I vote again?

[obsidian bolt]

regardless if you vote again the counter will expire in 31 days

[fiery grove]

thanks veld

[misty edge]

Kinda, it’s a window of 31 days. It’ll just see what votes happened in the last period

[steady cape]

Your votes accumulate on the counter. It's just when A vote hits 31 days (1 month) it will be removed from the bots page.

[tranquil torrent]

So it just removes a vote after 31 days? And not every vote at the end of the month?

[obsidian bolt]

good visual

[tranquil torrent]

It made me more confused lol I’m having a big brainfart

[tardy saffron]

[latent shale]

Random question but how do you have a gazillion hours on tts

[wind hemlock]

addiction

[latent shale]

[tranquil torrent]

Okay so when I vote today, my vote gets removed after 31 days? So just my vote ?

[daring mica]

yes

every vote has its own expiration time now

instead of all at the start of the month

[tranquil torrent]

Ohh now it makes sense!

[misty edge]

What’s considered a day btw is it gmt -> gmt, est -> est?

[daring mica]

timezones are fake

24 hours is a day

[hidden marsh]

i believe this update was the best for small bots

[latent shale]

We need a webhook to fetch current votes for analytics purposes ✋🏻

[rich grotto]

Question. So the total votes will now show instead?

[prime grove]

What is the process you're referring to when you say a score will be calculated?

[misty edge]

The number votes which happened in the past 31 days, that’s it

No longer in one month, past 31 days

[latent shale]

Would be great to monitor the growth over time

[misty edge]

Is there not an analytics section on the dashboard

[prime grove]

It won't reset, right?

[misty edge]

No, it’s a window over the past 31 days

[latent shale]

I don't think it displays vote stats or I haven't explored it enough, but a webhook to pull the data would be better

[daring mica]

use api

[latent shale]

Does it return the current vote count?

[daring mica]

yes

[misty edge]

It does though

[daring mica]

https://docs.top.gg/docs/API/v1/projects/#get-current-project

[latent shale]

Cool didn't know this existed thanks for it

[prime grove]

?

[prime grove]

?

[daring mica]

what score

[misty edge]

Last 31 days. If you’re confused elaborate

[wind hemlock]

wont bother to spend mroe time

[lilac charm]

yeah well it looks nice at first but the thing is now large bots will be on top always since they are will have more votes always

[steady cape]

haven't they've always been on top anyways? lol

[gleaming relic]

[ruby jetty]

Do votes expire on a per day basis or hourly?

[gleaming relic]

Votes expire?

[ruby jetty]

Every 31 days

[gleaming relic]

Yeah btw wdym on a per day basis or hourly?

[ruby jetty]

Do all votes made on the same day expire immediately after 31 days have passed or will a vote made at let's say 11am also expire at 11am after 31 days

[obsidian bolt]

A "day" is 24 hours so itll be 31 days to the hour

[tranquil torrent]

Quick question: I have a feature that needs a vote for extra options, but does that mean they now need to vote once every 31 days? Or still the 12 hours?

[misty edge]

12 hours it’s only the COUNT on the site which won’t reset at the end of the month. The COUNT on the site is counted in a 31 day window

[misty edge]

^

[tranquil torrent]

Oh, so it does not change?

[misty edge]

No, as said multiple times before it’s only the fact the count on the site doesn’t reset at the end of the month

How often a user can vote hasn’t changed

[cinder widget]

[spare sable]

So if I understand well, each new day add up on the vote count. But at the same time, it deletes the votes from 32 days ago?

and how do I get the project creator role? I wasn't pinged on this announcement, and would love to! 🙂

[whole kelp]

I’ve given the role, server owners aren’t given the role yet by default only bot owners

[whole kelp]

Correct

[spare sable]

Thank you! 🙏

[spare sable]

Gotcha! 👍

[gusty estuary]

I don’t understand why the number of votes no longer increases when a person votes?

[obsidian bolt]

Its likely that they're voting at the same timeframe that you lose one from 31 days ago

[hard talon]

No, I think that there's a bug. I've looked bots on topstats, and they're all losing votes they got the month before and don't get any. Today, I should've got 403 votes, but lost 889 overall. I didn't get 1.2k votes last month in a day, probably just 800 since it was a weekend.

Screenshot of mudae :

And it's not a bug with topstats, as the vote count reflects what I see on top.gg

[daring mica]

Heya @hard talon, I've been monitoring this and double checking the query logic for our tiered system here. The query logic right now seems correct, however, before the fixes post-launch the data wasn't refreshed yet. That's on me, thanks for simply pressing this to get me to triple check myself, because there was a divide from launch until the fix

Will run our script to get everyone re-synchronized to the numbers they should be on

Funny thing, in the event things like these do happen, we re-backfill for up to 48 hours, but ofcourse. this got launched more than 48 hours after launch 😂

[hard talon]

Thank you Veld 🙂

[daring mica]

Fix was pushed, Will re-sync it again

I did some more digging

We batch our "fast" version of the counter hourly, but we "lock" those batches hourly as well. I scheduled those for ~XX:30 since we have jobs running on each hour. And I dont want to overload the db every hour.

Turns out the query did not take into account that it could recieve half data due to now() not being an hourly only figure.

you should see a decent chunk of votes re-appear now

Serious apologies for that!

[daring mica]

Man, that being said - it's crazy it broke exactly on midnight after the weekend ended

[split dagger]

I would prefer there was a counter for every month instead of a sliding window. why can't top.gg store old votes?

[daring mica]

What do you mean?

we store each individual vote 🤔