#auctions-general

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icy cipher
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Looks like gamer 4 lyfe might get the most assuming the first one doesn't pay.

zealous stone
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ohhhh

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so im capped at also 3k max

icy cipher
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Right.

zealous stone
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ah i see, thank you very much : )

mortal crag
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thank heavens

candid drum
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bid for fun thinking they will outbid you anyway
they don't
you have to pay quite a lot
MR_uncanny_1

candid lily
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auctions still requires phone verification, no?

candid drum
violet sand
half sphinx
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Impressions are the estimated amount of views on your ad, right?

half sphinx
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Let's say I bid for 1000 impressions... what happens to the ad if those are reached?

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I mean I read the article, but doesn't actually know what happens to the ad... Does it disappear (in my example) after 1000 impressions happened?

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According to the article, bidder 2 would be charged for his impressions then as there are more than 1000 estimated impressions

oak whale
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Yes, if you reach your limit of impressions your ad will be removed and the next will be shown

half sphinx
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Ah... alright, so you will never be charged for more than your max bid?

oak whale
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You will never be charged more than your max budget.

half sphinx
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Alright, ty fucked it up then but still got the slot lmao

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Guess I got it, now

neat valley
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@zealous stone looks like Traphouse hasn't payed lol

zealous stone
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oh

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but...

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i have not gotten the option to pay

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i checked tomorrow and i didnt had the option to pay

neat valley
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ask in #auctions-support

oak whale
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Considering i give support to auctions as a priority... girlshrug

amber meteor
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this true bro

oak whale
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why is your face oliy

neat valley
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what a meme stealer

inner condor
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Is there anyone who can explain to me how auctions actually work. My brain isn't large enough to work it out

oak whale
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Have you read our support articles already?

inner condor
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Am i seriously this blind

oak whale
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-auctions

lean whaleBOT
oak whale
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click the second "click here" :)

inner condor
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Thank you

oak whale
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You're welcome! And if those articles dont answer a question, feel free to come back and ask ThumbsUpSmile

ivory wave
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Hi

amber meteor
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fastsprings fraud detection system - 🤡

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they probably let actual fraudulent transactions through but block real transactions

tulip berry
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it is working Pog

native sluice
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🦆

neat valley
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do you guys know how to hack?

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I need my account back :<

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please help me

neat valley
neat valley
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thanks

mortal crag
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Do my DMs with this server need to be on?

candid lily
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Yes they do

neat valley
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Yo

long scroll
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@earnest geyser

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I have a req

formal bane
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Are Analytics as always known to be broken?

fallow lodge
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try #auctions-support

hoary flower
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I got the vote credits

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So like how much chance I have of winning

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The auction?

oak whale
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CPM makes it highly likely you'll get some kind of impressions

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So pretty likely

hoary flower
oak whale
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No, it goes until the tag runs out of impressions

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So several different people with several different ads end up getting something

hoary flower
fresh cloud
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I lost 700$

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😃

sly pagoda
icy geode
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Server Social tag 2 was a battle

half sphinx
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New Page still is a battle

nimble elbow
half sphinx
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finally

neat valley
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I forgot auction worry

river gulch
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The moment you forget bidding ASD_keke

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how doesn't

ancient pumice
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when does the auctions get refreshed? like i won a auction but when does it appear on the site

oak whale
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-auctionstimes

lean whaleBOT
ancient pumice
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do i have to pay agaiN?

oak whale
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If youve already paid then you wont need to pay again unless you get more impressions than estimated

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but you wont ever have to pay over your spending limit

ancient pumice
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i don't get the round 2 principle

oak whale
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Round 2 winners are if Round 1 winners dont pay

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like runner ups

ancient pumice
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ow okay

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but i payed so there is no need to worry

oak whale
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correct ThumbsUpSmile

ancient pumice
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and my ad runs from tuesday 19:00utc until next tuesday

oak whale
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itll run until you get all the impressions you paid for

coarse ermine
oak whale
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yes

ancient pumice
oak whale
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yep!

ancient pumice
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okay

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thanks for helping me

oak whale
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a click is when a user actually clicks on your ad b_nod

coarse ermine
# oak whale yes

how does that work for the last auction of the month since credits don't roll over into next month afaik?

oak whale
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credits that get refunded never expire iara_nod

coarse ermine
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but if i'm using vote credit and that gets refunded, are you saying that then becomes permanent credit?

oak whale
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until you use it

coarse ermine
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but vote credit that never gets refunded in this manner expires at the end of the month? sorry just trying to understand

oak whale
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So yeah, if you get vote credits now, they expire after 30 days.

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But a refund doesnt expire

coarse ermine
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so there's two buckets of credit, permanent and expires @ end of month. which credit gets used up first when bidding?

oak whale
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It creates seperate wallets in your account for you, im not sure if theres a specific order they get used in

coarse ermine
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i see, probably not related to this system but is it likely that "lunamusic" is going to get a refund? mushroom is getting over 2x impressions for the same total spend, not sure i understand why that is the way it is

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in my mind, if two people are spending the same amount they should get the same impressions, no?

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one would expect that by increasing CPM while leaving the total spend the same, they would lose impressions. but it seems like the opposite would happen for lunamusic in the example above. if they increase CPM to $8.11 while maintaining the same spend, they would actually gain impressions

half sphinx
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And people not only use vote credits

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Somebody being able and ready to invest more should also get more for his money

coarse ermine
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that's not what i'm talking about though. increasing the CPM doesn't mean you're increasing your total spend. if two users are spending the same amount, they should get the same impressions

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in the example above, lunamusic and mushroom are both spending $5000. yet mushroom is getting over 2x the impressions

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so they aren't getting "more for their money," they're getting more for the same amount of money

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which doesn't seem fair

half sphinx
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If the max spend value would decide the total impressions like you say no new guy to auctions could make it in with their 100 limit

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It’s totally fair as it is (now) imo

coarse ermine
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i'm not really seeing how it's fair to get 38% of the impressions that someone else is getting when you're spending as much as them on the same auction?

half sphinx
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He’s spending up to 5000 not 5000

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While bidder nr 1 spends in total 5000

coarse ermine
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that's why i was asking @oak whale if lunamusic is expected to get a refund

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because in a fair system, they would get a refund of ~$3000, no?

oak whale
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Impressions are received in the order of the CPM (cost per mile) - mushroom paid 8.10 CPM while lunamusic paid 8

half sphinx
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I wonder if he’s even being charged for 5000 or just the amount he impressing he can actually get for 8.0

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Since there only 232k left

oak whale
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so mushroom's ad will show first, then globalX, then Betty, and then LunaMusic

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since it shows white on your screenshot, i would assume its on a tag that has that many impressions to be given

half sphinx
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Xiuh he wants to know if Luna being charged for 5000

oak whale
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and yeah, theyre only charged up front for the estimated impressions they will receive (so no, they didn't pay 5k)

half sphinx
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And will get a refund

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There we go

oak whale
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its possible that they will get more than 232k impressions if the tag ends up getting more impressions than we expected

coarse ermine
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so if they get exactly 232k impressions, there is no refund?

oak whale
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in which case they would need to retroactively pay for those impressions until they have paid a maximum of 5k

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correct

half sphinx
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Does he has to pay for estimated impressions or 5000 ?

oak whale
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they will only get a refund if they receive less than 232k impressions

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he only pays for the estimated impressions

coarse ermine
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but they're spending $5000 for 232k impressions, while mushroom is spending $5000 for 617k impressions, hopefully you see my issue with that?

oak whale
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they did not spend 5k for 232k impressions

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they only paid for 232k impressions at 8 dollars per 1 thousand

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5k is their limit

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not how much they paid

coarse ermine
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if mushroom receives 617k impressions how much would they end up spending?

oak whale
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their whole 5k

coarse ermine
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if lunamusic receives 232k impressions how much would they end up spending?

oak whale
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however much 232 times 8 is

half sphinx
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232,7k impressions * 8,0 for Luna is what he being charged for

oak whale
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which is about 1.8k

half sphinx
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You will only be charged for the total spend amount if there are enough impressions existing for your CPM amount

coarse ermine
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i see, so based on the estimated numbers they're expected to receive ~$3.2k in credit next week?

half sphinx
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Confused me in the beginning too but is totally fair

oak whale
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no

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they didnt pay that money in the first place, so they will not receive any refund/credit

coarse ermine
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i think that part is what confuses me, what was their upfront payment then?

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the ~1.8k?

oak whale
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They only paid for the estimated amount of impressions - which was 232.77k. At a cost of $8 per 1k, they only are being charged today for $1,862.16

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correct

coarse ermine
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okay cool, that makes total sense now. sorry for such a long exchange, just really wanted to understand the system since we're bidding on it so frequently

oak whale
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no worries at all! im glad i was able to clear up any confusion mimu_love_heart

half sphinx
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In this example

coarse ermine
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right, but never over their max spend. i think i get it now

half sphinx
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But this can’t be calculated before as nobody knows how many visits actually happen

half sphinx
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If he would set a limit of 2000 for example and already payed 1800 he could only be charged for another 200 bucks

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If so many impressions would actually happen

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Which would be ~25000 impressions in my example he could get until his ad ends

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(200 bucks till 2000 * 8.0)

candid drum
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MR_canny_meh_stage gonna reach 200% CTR

neat valley
amber meteor
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pov you use JavaScript

candid drum
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MR_uncanny_10 someone explain me why i need to pay for "extra impressions" how this makes sense MR_canny_meh_stage wasn't supposed to be expressions in the budget limit

oak whale
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If you receive more impressions than you were estimated to receive, but you did not spend your whole budget/bid limit - you will be asked to pay for the extra impressions that you received over estimations.
You are never charged more than what you put your limit to be.

candid drum
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MR_canny_meh_stage basically in my wallet are 3$ and i need to pay almost 100$

oak whale
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It only charges you up to what you set your budget limit as for the previous week for extra impressions, so if you didn't have that money then why did you put your limit so high?

candid drum
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is there a budged for extra impressions ? quite odd

oak whale
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Its based off of your budget you set when you bid last week

earnest geyser
ripe briar
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wait so in the instance of retroactive charging, is the cap the max bid or the maximum amount of budget for that slot?

candid drum
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the budged isn't what i prepaid already ? MR_uncanny_10

oak whale
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The cap for retroactive charging is whatever you put your limit as for that tag when you originally bid. When you paid already, you paid for the estimated amount of impressions- which in this case, did not use up all of the budget. Since the tag got more impressions than estimated, but your budget was not used up, we continued to run your ad until your budget was used up

ripe briar
oak whale
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correct

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no

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wait

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yes

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the box in blue is the max you would ever be charged

ripe briar
oak whale
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so if you bid 1 @ 15

and you paid 10 dollars up front for estimated impressions
then you get more than what was estimated

the max you would be charged would be 5 dollars
for a total of 15

candid drum
limber kestrel
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what button?

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where do I click?

night sky
limber kestrel
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And I don't see my bot on that list.

night sky
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Well yes, it probably ended many hours/days ago

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👁️

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i dont know the language in your ss so i am not sure how to determine

lapis radish
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Even though it's been more than 3 days, my bot is still not in search

candid lily
barren tide
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I made a bid. What now? How does this work?

half sphinx
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You gotta wait till Monday when this campaign is over

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Which will probably require you to bid again as there’s a lot of time till Monday for others to bid too, may doing an higher bid

neat valley
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Hi @earnest geyser

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Are you the support here?

earnest geyser
buoyant jasper
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hi

trail imp
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any update on yeeting fastspring into the abyss and getting something good? 🥲

candid lily
# trail imp any update on yeeting fastspring into the abyss and getting something good? 🥲
trail imp
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i wanna start advertising again cri

amber meteor
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does mee6 bid on auctions still

candid lily
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Haven't seen it in a bit

amber meteor
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lol top.gg gonna have to file for bankruptcy

fallow lodge
serene harness
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q

patent kestrel
tulip berry
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@brittle carbon^

brittle carbon
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@thorny flame no ads please

storm kettle
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why am i unable to add my server to top.gg

candid lily
buoyant cove
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what happends if i run out of credits?

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like does it force me to pay?

neat valley
neat valley
tulip berry
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also mushroom

amber meteor
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without pouring tons of money in 😔

earnest geyser
# buoyant cove what happends if i run out of credits?

if you win an auction, you have to pay within 12hrs. if not, it’ll go to the runner-up and it’ll affect your rating negatively

if you have an open payment for extra impressions, you will have to pay this before being able to bid in auctions again

hoary flower
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Is there anyone who has got his bot famous due to auctions?

buoyant cove
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like hundreds of people will be able to see ur bot if u win

hoary flower
candid lily
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It mostly depends on how unique your bots features are, how interesting your ad spot is (for example people wont click on something that doesn't sound professional and boring)

Aswell as making sure that users actually stay on your bot is how you manage to get it to grow through auctions

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So you need something that actually keeps your bot users on the bot and just not kick it right after the first command

hoary flower
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Oh ok

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Thanks ☺️

candid lily
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speaking from a personal perspective, but auctions is a way to get your bot seen, not having it guaranteed that you actually get users to keep your bot. If your bot is boring and not worth keeping in the server, it would just get kicked again. The second part is up to the bot dev to succeed on

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Also why you might succeed more with a multipurpose bot than a utility one

hoary flower
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Magik

candid lily
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nah I didn't know that, just generally seeing multipurpose ones the most during queue

hoary flower
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btw can I become a part of auction research?

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@candid lily

candid lily
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Not sure what the requirements of auctions research is, probably actively using auctions or something

hoary flower
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Oh ok

obtuse ocean
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there seems ot be problem with voting and people not getting rank for voting

earnest geyser
neat valley
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In what timezone the auctions end? Thonk

oak whale
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the times listed are in UTC

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-auctionstimes

lean whaleBOT
fluid quail
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yay?

earnest geyser
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yay

serene harness
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man late bidders at it again

lean briar
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dang role management tag is expensive this week

meager cloud
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Good luck all

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To who bid

lean briar
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so I could be wrong, but it looks like if you bid your exact same bid again it extends the time. Accidently did that and got an extension, didn't see anyone else bid so idk

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Yeah so I was curious and tested it, you can in fact extend the time without actually submitting a "new" bid. If you just resubmit your existing bid, it extends the time

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Not sure if there is a place to report bugs or not

lone geode
steep thicket
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Lmao GGs

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Got 3rd place after all for the front page lmao

ripe bay
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Auctions are a pain in the ass ngl

lone geode
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yea

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people waiting to the last second to bid 10.01

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....

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come on

ripe bay
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This moron's bid extended the time even though it was below the threshold

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smh

lone geode
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thats just a bug in the system

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but also at some point you shouldnt be able to bid just .01 at a time

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sitting here for half an hour cause of that is just...

ripe bay
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it's just a really weird fucking system overall

lone geode
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mhm

ripe bay
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but there's no real other way to handle something like this either

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Maybe they should only increase 30/60second after bidding time is over

quartz radish
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there should def. a max amount of extension, like 10 minutes

woeful ruin
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the max is 3 hours I think

ripe bay
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that won't solve it ngl, people will just wait for it to happen

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and bid in last milisecond

steep thicket
steep thicket
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i left moderation slot 1 because front page had better cpm rate

ripe bay
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Just a shorter increase in time every bid, which keeps getting shorter every 1min

fresh helm
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Sup

lone geode
ripe bay
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oh thank fuck it's over

steep thicket
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what bot did you advertise?

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oh

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Oterlu AI

lone geode
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oterlu

steep thicket
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lmao i saw yes yes

lone geode
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I was getting like 1% on front page

steep thicket
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got 3rd slot lol

lone geode
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moderation gives me much better cpm

steep thicket
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I bet

ripe bay
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which category is that

steep thicket
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But I went with front page this time

lone geode
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mod slot 1

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mm

steep thicket
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Last time I had 12$ CPM on Moderation for about 4,6k impressions

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Had 7% click rate, let's see how it goes this time

lone geode
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i sit between 5-10%

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different every week

steep thicket
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It's my 2nd time on auction

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1st time my bot was unverified

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Now after 1 entire month of waiting, it got verified, and I could unlock that shitty 99 server cap

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Now I can take hundreds more, no problem lol

steep thicket
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Thanks CP_catyes

lyric hatchBOT
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🎉 | Entity2k3 leveled up!
blank | Extra rewards were added for missing levels

fallow lodge
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@violet sand bots can talk here

violet sand
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weirdchamp moment

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guess its fixed

steep thicket
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rip moment lol

fallow lodge
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if i don't get selected for the auctions research, pls lmk so i can send my question list KEKW

subtle plank
steep thicket
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Only MEE6 is familiar to me lol

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Wick, Oterlu AI, Captcha Bot seen often auctioning too lmao

hard relic
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Why server count is not working

lone geode
warm yew
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a

candid lily
candid lily
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There's not no

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You get chosen if you make successful bids perhaps

steep thicket
woeful ruin
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was that on main page?

steep thicket
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front page

woeful ruin
steep thicket
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I'll stick around with Moderation, because 5k impressions got me 300 invites

woeful ruin
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oh thats a good ratio

steep thicket
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Moderation last month

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Oh right

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Media doesn't work still lmao

woeful ruin
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smh my head

steep thicket
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XDD

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oop images back

coarse coyote
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can i have roblox acc

fallow lodge
coarse coyote
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plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz]

fallow lodge
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@raven egret

raven egret
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@coarse coyote stop begging

coarse coyote
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shut up

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@raven egret shut up

fallow lodge
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@oak whale

oak whale
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-b 788527534597734421 bye

lean whaleBOT
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upvote TaimiW2#1145 was successfully banned.

raven egret
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bruh

void seal
neat valley
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The roblox kid searching for free robux

tulip berry
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lmao

carmine ledge
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Hi.

finite nova
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Hallo.

lavish quail
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are impressions on your ads all "unique impressions" or can one person cause multiple impressions?

mortal crag
hoary flower
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where can I buy these?

limber kestrel
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How many credits do I have?

lean briar
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dang my click through rate is insane

mint trail
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This does not bode well for next week's campaign 😂

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What's going on?

rigid knoll
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Floating point numbers and broken code

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Unfortunately I'd probably say ignore the estimated impressions and just the analytics in general cuz they seem incredibly broken rn so not sure how much i would trust the numbers

mint trail
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OK! Thanks

fallow lodge
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@oak whale

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ads

oak whale
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@peak cobalt don't advertise here.

night sky
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Reminder that daylight savings begin in 1h 23m for us/ca Wiggle

tame vapor
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pogg

zenith sky
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Question, say you bid $1 cpm @ $100, but theres only 10k impressions, would you only have to pay $10?

earnest geyser
zenith sky
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Okay, was curious about how that was worked out

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my thought was at payment you would pay the amount of estimated impressions

earnest geyser
# zenith sky my thought was at payment you would pay the amount of estimated impressions

if you win an auctions, you do prepay for the estimated impressions based on your bid. if, at the end of the auctions cycle, it turns out that you received less impressions than estimated, you would be refunded. if you receive more impressions than estimated, the system would request a payment for the extra impressions. however, it will only charge you up to your max bid

zenith sky
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that makes sense thank you

earnest geyser
lone geode
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Looks like there are a few people who don't understand the bidding system this week.... 😕

zenith sky
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I started doing this yesterday

lone geode
earnest geyser
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zamn let them go crazy LMAOO

lone geode
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I mean, they aren't going to pay

earnest geyser
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it'll affect their auctions ratings negatively, so that's on them

lone geode
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I guess, but we can still underbid them so I guess it doesnt matter

earnest geyser
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yeah i mean if they don't pay, it'll go to a round 2 winner anyway

lean briar
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anyone else having issues with the bidding site right now? I can't select a promotable.

zenith sky
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I was encourtering that, but it appeared after ~30s

zenith sky
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Auctions end at 19:00 utc right? isnt that in... 5 minutes?

oak whale
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auctions does not follow DST, it ends in 1 hour and 5 minutes

zenith sky
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I am slow

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i think my utc is wrong

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there we go. i hate DST

earnest geyser
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dst do be doodoo

oak whale
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Please feel free to drop that at https://feedback.top.gg so that other people can upvote it mimu_love_heart

high ridge
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I just saw the desc

oak whale
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(and so it doesnt get lost in this channel)

high ridge
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;_;

oak whale
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no worries!

zenith sky
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oh boy, down to the wire

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I wonder if i will be outbid by large bots in the last 5 minutes

high ridge
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definitely will

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😄

spring scarab
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before i log on, are there any auctions-breaking bugs this week?

lime bone
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guys time to make some coffee, in 5 minutes lets sit down and get these auctions rollin yaaa

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my limit today is only 500$ cpm gl all

zenith sky
earnest geyser
zenith sky
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so yes

spring scarab
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gotcha

zenith sky
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#auctions-support message

thin forum
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there are 2 types of evil

  • murderers
  • people who bid +0,01 cent the last minute thinking theyre slick and making everyone else wait +30 minutes
neat valley
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Haha

zenith sky
thin forum
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lol

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but the most annoying is when they repeatedly do it

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and they wait for the last minute every damn time

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even when the time gets extended they do it again

zenith sky
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dear weird nft bot: please let me have at least a little bit of this category

thin forum
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wish people would just stop postponing their bid to the last second

zenith sky
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its like dominoes

neat valley
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Wow 50 seconds then back to 3 minutes

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😭

thin forum
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holy shit

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i somehow got it

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nice

neat valley
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Noice

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Congrats man

zenith sky
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omg i got some too

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now i need to make an actual ad

thin forum
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lmao

quaint edge
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Never got something that cheap 😄

spring scarab
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needing to clear your payments before bidding is ridiculous when bidding on multiple tags

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now we're going to miss out because i had to pay before bidding again and then go back to a promotable list that doesn't even load

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absolutely flawless system you have there

oak whale
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We will be looking into this

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I do not believe that was intended

neat valley
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Rip auction broke

wide barn
#

Shock, horror willy

neat valley
#

You can't select the product

tidal gorge
#

how do you guys think it's acceptable to refund people in credits in situations like this? i wasn't affected but that's concerning

fallow lodge
candid lily
#

iirc there was still no decision made about refunding, could be wrong

fallow lodge
oak whale
#

The only way we can issue refunds is in credits. It isnt possible for us to make refunds any other way

tidal gorge
earnest geyser
coarse ermine
#

not to be rude but in that case imo just move on, fix everything for next week and drop the talk about refunds etc. it's all done and in the past now

neat valley
#

@night sky should we pay auction or wait till theirs a desicion?

oak whale
#

please wait

neat valley
#

Ok np

earnest geyser
#

that is the only way we can issue refunds

tidal gorge
#

why?

coarse ermine
#

yeah surely you can refund in fastspring? not sure i understand that one

#

You or FastSpring Support can refund credit card transactions up to 6 months after an order. However, PayPal orders must be refunded within 3 months.

oak whale
#

All questions about cancellations, refunds, etc need to wait until we fix the issue first
SO please calm down and stop asking and we will get back to people as soon as we fix the issues first.

tidal gorge
#

this particular issue has been reported across several auction cycles though - is there an ETA?

fallow lodge
oak whale
#

What particular issue do you mean in this case?

wide barn
#

I also imagine, however, that in most countries you could argue their decision to refund in credit and get an actual refund. And take further action until they do. But that's a lot of effort that most people won't explore.

coarse ermine
#

idk, i think the valid option of a chargeback in the case of a credit refund would hurt their standing with the payment processor more than simply refunding everyone. regardless i don't think they'll end up going down this road anyways

tidal gorge
candid lily
#

if I remember correctly, that might possibly be caused by adblocker blocking auctions-essential scripts

#

seen users experience that before

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though cant 100% tell since I cant see if it affected the other sections

#

Yup was able to reproduce, my adblocker blocked the promotables list from showing up

coarse ermine
#

i had to dig in a bit more and it seems like the promotables actually come from the websocket connection... so i don't think adblocker would do anything

#

you really do just have to wait for it to show up

#

what i wonder is if they could just cache the response in the browser so that when we refresh, we have the local data which should be correct most of the time?

#

then at least we don't need to wait around to bid (i'd hope)

ember smelt
#

I do all bidding in incognito, so adblocker is always disabled. Still had the issue, but I had 20 tabs open for different tags out of habit so I just changed the tag on some of the extra tabs.

candid lily
#

am kinda leaning towards possibly having gotten ratelimited maybe?

#

could you perhaps open your inspect element console and check the network tab if you know how to do that

#

it should possibly mention somewhere a 429 code, meaning ratelimited

coarse ermine
#

the promotables data comes from the socket connection though, not an http request

#

this userinfo payload has all the promotables

#

you pretty much have to just wait around for that payload to be sent... so if there's rate limiting then it's probably on top.ggs own backend which is stalling their database query that pulls the user data or something

#

but there's nothing the end user can really do about it

#

something they gotta fix

zenith sky
#

lol

wide barn
#

Should specify in announcement auto-refund is credit only if that's the case as described earlier

oak whale
#

it does state that

wide barn
#

I'm illegally blind

gaunt yacht
#

mhm

mortal sinew
#

Me, who forgot to bid and now has a chance to do 😂

neat valley
#

yeah KEKW

zenith sky
#

Oh no

#

Did bidding just get extended

#

i literally had won

zenith sky
#

Man i totally got screwed with the extension

stray raft
#

I'm currenyly stuck fighting someone who's going for both DnD Slots, like come on let my bot have 1 please

zenith sky
#

actually no i didnt

#

i got 1k more for same price

zenith sky
stray raft
#

oof

#

I ended up going for the big price jump cause I need this to help grow my bot now that it's back

#

Ayy got em awesome

zenith sky
#

nicee

stray raft
#

Didn't realize there was extra fees though, not end of the world but oof made my thing $15 more expensive

thin forum
#

I've paid for the auction from before the rollback but now it's charging me again

spring scarab
#

yeah

#

dont pay again

#

wait for the refund to come through and if you have automatic payments then it'll do it automaticlaly

oak whale
#

You will need to pay again

#

the previous one will be refunded

#

So you will only pay once total

spring scarab
#

so are you saying that the refund is not likely before due time?

bright lily
#

aww come on, me and lofi were just having a nice moment doing meme numbers 😿

oak whale
#

The refund should be done before the payment window ends so you can use your refund to pay

bright lily
#

😎 👏

#

still the best auction of the night 😎

earnest slate
#

First auction ever, first place on the site successfully secured o.o

bright lily
#

👏

earnest slate
#

I just wonder where some people get so much money from pepowot

vapid bronze
earnest slate
#

Or are willing to pay so much money for a few impressions

zenith sky
earnest slate
#

True, some bots can pay their bills with their active "Premium users" but it would be interesting to know why people would pay $100 for not even 1000 impressions 😅

oak whale
#

Mostly because they arent familiar with how CPM works and don't read our articles on it

drowsy sorrel
#

I had a rly good bid but lost it due to the hour delay 😢

zenith sky
#

I mean people not knowing is a plus for you guys because you're likely getting paid more money

harsh monolith
#

Which makes it frustrating for everyone.

zenith sky
#

Yeah

#

Well

zenith sky
#

Oh wait but then that person has to pay and they didn't know they had to

earnest geyser
#

you should really only bid if you're certain you can pay what you're bidding

zenith sky
#

we are talking about people that don't know what they're doing, lol

earnest geyser
#

yeah, should is the keyword

mortal crag
zenith sky
#

yea

fallow lodge
# zenith sky 😐

Exactly why I suggested a warning feature when bidding a very bad CPM, and the suggestion was removed sad_cat

earnest geyser
fallow lodge
#

Not sure, its just not there anymore

#

Not merged either, or it would say that. it just says not found

earnest geyser
#

do you have the link for it?

fallow lodge
#

used to be valid

earnest geyser
#

yeah, i looked it up in our logs and it was moved to "planned"

fallow lodge
#

Not sure why the link is now invalid tho sus

earnest geyser
#

i can ask about it and then if you want, you can resubmit it

fallow lodge
#

yep probably will do

earnest geyser
#

thanks so much avoLove

#

sorry about that, really not sure what happened to it

neat valley
#

Lol my 35$ got removed from refund

#

Now I am unable to pay

earnest geyser
neat valley
#

sure

#

Before 2 weeks
I bidded on front page slot 2 ,but got oudbidded.But I recieved at tuesday the impression,since somebody was probs unable to pay.Since the next bidding was before it.I bidded last tuesday and got the slot and impressions.Now I will have to still pay the from the last 2 weeks and my 35$ got charged twice since I paid upfront

#

and my 35$ disappered ,really weird

earnest geyser
neat valley
earnest geyser
#

okay, so prior to the top most entry in your payment history, you had the $35?

neat valley
#

I had more earlier ,but after the refund it setted by balance to 35.
Afaik it was 38.03$

river gulch
#

Do you get charged extra when you get more impressions even if you bid on less?

earnest geyser
earnest geyser
#

so if you bid $1 @ $10, you would max get charged $10 in that auction

earnest geyser
#

it should be through now baldmisonod

neat valley
#

Thx worked

steel grail
#

I'm really wishing I could do bids again, but even after waiting a couple months it still won't let me put funds into my wallet, no matter what I do to try and fix it...

I know it was mentioned that you guys might go ahead and switch to a different payment service, is there any idea when that would happen?

zenith sky
#

#auctions-support

green nebula
#

@everyone

tulip berry
#

lol

earnest slate
#

This "BlueLine" bot developer must have a lot of money... KEKW

fallow lodge
#

I always question how devs have so much money to throw towards their bots growth

#

I can only just afford to host the bot, let alone advertise it

spring scarab
#

then cancel the nitro that youre using to boost this server lmao

fallow lodge
#

I won that from this server

earnest geyser
#

LOL

spring scarab
#

o OMEGALUL

fallow lodge
#

ew that url is ugly

neat valley
#

😂

earnest slate
fallow lodge
#

also true

keen knoll
#

when i top up my auction account, the taxes it calculates are from paypal or country based? because if they are country based it makes no sense

candid lily
#

Should be country based, check Fastspring

keen knoll
candid lily
#

nope is taxes depending on customer

simple plover
#

I wish there was a kpop and card game bot category to advertise bots in >_<

#

I want to advertise, but I can only advertise server rather than bot because of the few bot categories

#

And advertising servers gets so many trolls T_T

neat valley
#

Cpm based auctions interesting

neat valley
#

Has anyone here owned a bot and had success with mass marketing of that bot through the auction system? If so what was your pickup rate on that bot with a decent budget curious

simple plover
#

And also compared to server adverts which you can get free

#

But maybe if you are running the bot like a company, with a real budget, it can be a decent way

neat valley
#

But I'm not a strong believer in allocating a budget to one main strategy I do think however if the pickup rate is decent it could be diversified into a well rounded marketing strategy. However I'm curious of that pickup rate

#

I'd love to hear success stories for using this as a marketing medium

neat valley
#

Infinity

icy adder
#

hi

zenith sky
#

Honestly embarrassing

zenith sky
#

I feel like this ruins an auction

earnest geyser
#

what does?

zenith sky
#

like really? over $115 for 1k impressions?

#

and other people cant bid because of stupid high cpm

oak whale
#

they pay what theyre willing to pay for those impressions

#

you can bid lower than them and still get impressions

zenith sky
#

i must be misunderstanding it because i did and theres 0 impressions

#

do the budgets have to be higher?

oak whale
#

well with clover taking 59.1k impressions its likely there isnt anything left underneath them

earnest geyser
#

then there are no more impressions to be captured

oak whale
#

impressions are given in order of CPM bid

zenith sky
#

im not too sure why people want to pay over $100 for ~1k impressions

earnest geyser
#

because they want the impressions for their product

zenith sky
#

servers are op asf ngl

#

thousands of impressions for a few dollars

tired horizon
#

how does this impression thing work exactly

earnest slate
earnest geyser
earnest slate
spring scarab
#

impressions are the number of times your ad gets seen. nothing else to it

tired horizon
#

I just wanted to know what it meant. Because every server has impressions, some server has more than others. But I believe apex answered that question

earnest geyser
#

yeah, impressions are the number of views an ad gets

#

i've got an article that explains it a bit better, if you want to know more

#

it's in the supp article for how to use auctions as well

tired horizon
#

Yes please

earnest geyser
#

hold on

tired horizon
#

thank u very much Elle!!

#

Elle I have another question too but this isnt the support channel lmao. Should I go to the support channel if I have more questions

earnest geyser
earnest slate
#

Did I understand correctly that if the previous bidder does not pay, then automatically the next highest bidder will be able to place his ad?

earnest geyser
oak whale
#

the impressions trickle down until they run out iara_nod

storm oxide
#

how many bots will win from the leaderboard?

earnest geyser
#

so they'll initially win, but if any of them end up failing to pay, the impressions will trickle down to the product names in grey

storm oxide
#

okay but why does it says 8? there are way more than 8 bots in the leaderboard white

oak whale
#

That number is the amount of people currently looking at the tag to place a bid

#

Like, on the page right now looking at the tag

storm oxide
#

ah okay+

#

and when can I get outbid?

#

how does outbidding work?

earnest geyser
oak whale
#

A higher CPM bid ^

#

not a higher budget limit iara_nod

storm oxide
#

but there are people under me?

oak whale
#

Then those people have not outbid you iara_nod

#

you only bought so many impressions- there may be more left over for other people to get underneath you

storm oxide
#

okay. and how is it possible to get on the second winner list(the grey bots)

oak whale
#

if people bid higher than you and buy so many impressions that there aren't enough to go down the whole list, people turn gray when they will not receive any impressions

storm oxide
#

thanks

oak whale
#

youre welcome!

storm oxide
oak whale
#

You will not have to pay for impressions up front, but if the tag gets more impressions than expected or someone in front of you does not pay, then you may be charged retroactively next week

frozen fox
#

how it works the bidding?

earnest slate
glossy quiver
#

@pliant raptor you really want the meme tag huh cryingwithhand

pliant raptor
glossy quiver
earnest slate
#

Me sitting here and predicting that the developer in front of me does not pay

wicked moth
#

bidding is fun.

glossy quiver
earnest slate
#

Yes, but you still have to be careful 😅

#

At least they give you the chance to not pay which just affects your bidding rate

glossy quiver
#

i just get all my money from credits and bid what ever i have left in the overtime KEK

#

never spent any irl money on bidding other than like 3 bucks

wicked moth
#

there was a competition there for a good 5 mins
i am assuming the other guy just let me win kek

glossy quiver
#

me and @pliant raptor are after the meme tag non stop Cry

#

they wont stop

wicked moth
#

ty for letting me win this @twin crown
lol

glossy quiver
#

lume just isnt stopping cryIgnore

earnest geyser
glossy quiver
#

@pliant raptor that good enough for u?

pliant raptor
#

seems like we got a solution lemao

glossy quiver
#

🤝

#

was fun while it lasted KEK

#

NOOO

#

LUME

#

I THOUGHT WE HAD SOMETHING Cry

#

@misty harness why cryingwithhand

spring scarab
#

cant wait to watch the NEO guy not pay up

glossy quiver
#

LMAO

#

FR

#

hes bidding 100 on like every tag

earnest slate
glossy quiver
vapid bronze
#

imagine not having over $5000 already

glossy quiver
#

flushdoggo its you

earnest slate
#

I have never seen a developer bidding more than $1-2.000

earnest geyser
earnest slate
#

Oh, alright

vapid bronze
#

you must not watch #bids very closely then

glossy quiver
earnest slate
#

Okay, wow...

tulip berry
#

even mushroom lol

earnest geyser
#

yep

tulip berry
#

also autocode

vapid bronze
#

they're a bit crazy to pay 4x the average cpm OMEGALUL but thats my opinion

tulip berry
#

sometimes they go like 6k

earnest slate
#

I just keep an eye on the tags I want to bid on

glossy quiver
spring scarab
glossy quiver
#

2nd time actually spending irl money on bidding Prayge

oak whale
tulip berry
#

also is elle a new support agent? Thonk

fallow lodge
tulip berry
#

never seen them before

oak whale
#

me and elle are the support agents wiggle

tulip berry
#

iirc you were mod before

oak whale
#

still am ThumbsUpSmile

vapid bronze
#

elle and i im sorry please dont ban me

glossy quiver
tulip berry
#

I mean the highest role lol

oak whale
vapid bronze
#

/ban @vapid bronze r00d

oak whale
#

elle and i are the support agents wiggle

#

anyone with the Support Team role is part of the support team at top.gg

#

(official employees)

tulip berry
#

ah

vapid bronze
#

(official cool people)

oak whale
glossy quiver
earnest geyser
#

oh yes, hello friends

glossy quiver
#

hru elle

earnest slate
#

How is something like that even possible? xD

tired horizon
#

Guys I won my first auction and Idk what will happen but gg

glossy quiver
earnest geyser
tulip berry
fallow lodge
#

thats why my suggestion should be implimented yesyes

earnest geyser
#

people likely do it because they don't understand how the system works

tired horizon
earnest geyser
spring scarab
#

#auctions-general message this guy goes from asking how bidding works to dropping hundreds of dollars on tags they aren't gonna pay for kekw

earnest geyser
glossy quiver
night sky
#

im not sure what goes through their heads when they put it like that though - it literally says @
"120 at 100" how does that makes sense

earnest slate
#

Yes, these articles helped me a lot

night sky
#

like even if you didnt use cpm

glossy quiver
tired horizon
night sky
#

i dont see how that makes sense

tulip berry
#

sometimes it can happen accidentally though

glossy quiver
#

i understood it the moment it was released partially tj_tfShrug

earnest slate
#

It was just 5 minutes reading and then I got how it works 😅

#

Before that I was like "I am not sure, better read it"

glossy quiver
#

i still havent read it oop

earnest geyser
#

i guess it varies from person to person, but hopefully the supp articles should help

#

if not, please feel free to send us feedback on which parts require clarification, so that we can keep improving our articles avoLove

tulip berry
#

I learnt by watching other people lol

glossy quiver
fallow lodge
#

take notes yes

glossy quiver
oak whale
#

why those colors ew

earnest geyser
#

LOL

fallow lodge
#

ignore the colours KEKW

#

i'm fucking around with SweetAlert2 now so thought I would make that yesyes

fallow lodge
spring scarab
#

dark red and slightly less dark red

fallow lodge
#

not sure what the other red is tho

glossy quiver
mortal crag
fallow lodge
#

like $100 @ $100

mortal crag
#

Oh right

gleaming vector
#

Why are people paying like 1 dollar for each impression 🤔
How rich are they

#

also, why is there such a big difference between stream tag slot 1 and 2?

earnest geyser
#

thanks for flagging that! weird how they can vary so much

simple plover
#

Bidding is a prisoners dillema

#

If we cooperate, we win, if we don't, we all lose

gleaming vector
#

but how do we cooperate when there can only be one ad on display in a slot

simple plover
#

Well one way is the kind of passive, moral/social cooperation we normally do almost instinctively. Like we are almost all of us against some things and don't like people who do it

earnest geyser
gleaming vector
#

true I guess everyone can auction at a low quantity and at a low price for cooperation

#

but what if someone wants more impressions? Thats the problem

earnest geyser
#

then they just bid more

simple plover
#

Well I'm not expecting or hoping for more cooperation but just in theory

amber meteor
#

can someone give me 1 impression

#

just 1

neat valley
#

lol I got 40k impressions for a total of 81.20$ and only 30 ppl clicked

spring scarab
#

your ad must have been really bad lol

#

which tag out of curiosity

amber meteor
earnest slate
#

It is all about descriptions and your ad in general! 😄
I got 179 clicks out of 7540 impressions so far

#

And I payed about $30

candid lily
#

The impressions is basically anything on your ad, such as a view (aka anybody viewing that tag and seeing your ad)

#

the click is up to how you design your product, if your product doesn't look interesting at all, you'll likely get a small amount of clicks

#

if your product is interesting and seems to be useful for users, you'll get more clicks and thus a higher CTR

#

so for example
"Damn! I'm an artist and wish to engage with this community, sure will click on that ad"

#

and "Damn I'm not 18+ yet, so this isn't really a community for me, so I better not click on that ad"

#

also how is that ad up? CWS_Sus

#

and this one, this ad doesn't seem to give the viewer much information of what it is, what they can expect on it and nothing interesting. Only thing they know is that it is an anime based server and thats it

#

Its entirely up to you on how to actually design your products appearance on top.gg, the appearance is the key to getting a higher ctr

#

also on tags which you have no correlation to your product at all wont generate clicks either

neat valley
#

@candid lily I changed my discord bot name but it is not updated in top.gg website how to i update this

#

@earnest geyser

fallow lodge
earnest geyser
glossy quiver
#

just a stroke of luck ig

earnest geyser
#

its not necesarily luck though

#

lots of stuff go into crafting a nice and enticing ad

glossy quiver
#

true

#

but ima be honest my bot isnt the most appealing tj_omnomVerySad

glossy quiver
#

Im not very good at the whole "making stuff appealing" thing since i tend to keep everything as simple as possible

earnest geyser
#

simple is appealing to people though!

glossy quiver
#

yeah thats true i guess

earnest geyser
#

think about which parts of your bot usually attract people

#

there's a reason people are clicking and using your bot

#

i'm sure you can use all that good info to curate a nice ad!

glossy quiver
#

i just typed like an essay and forgot half way what i was gonna say Cry

#

but yeah i guess i could do that

earnest geyser
#

i feel that

#

LOL

wispy tinsel
torn sky
#

@brave dirge dont

tribal nova
#

Hey how can I setup this bot on my server?
Can anyone tell me?

mortal forge
misty rampart
#

Hey everyone

#

Any Indian here

oak whale
#

@shy ore dont be rude to other users, thanks.

leaden quest
radiant creek
#

hey i want to promot my bot

#

who can help me ??

candid lily
#

Because the auctions hasn't ended yet? Or have you already gotten a spot?

#

Aka already have paid after winning a spot

candid lily
mint trail
#

Totally possible.

earnest slate
#

Nope, such numbers should not be possible 😅

#

You want to pay 120$ but have a limit of $100 which is not possible at all

oak whale
#

it is possible and it does mean theyll get less than 1000 impressions

earnest slate
#

Oh, it is?

oak whale
#

yep

earnest slate
#

My bad then

oak whale
#

if i bid 10 at 5 then ill get 500 impressions

#

sorry

#

10 at 5

#

it doesnt make much sense, true. but it is possible

earnest slate
#

I was just confused because of this 😅

oak whale
#

im not sure if we are going to prevent it from happening in the future (aka "shouldnt be") but i know that is currently possible and works as it says it will - itll charge you what you stated and give you the impressions you bid for at that price

earnest slate
#

Yeah, true

fringe patrol
#

How can I add my bot (Can you reply by tagging me)

earnest geyser
lean whaleBOT
#

topgg Adding Your Bot To Top.gg

So you want to list your bot on Top.gg? We have a support article to help guide you through the process! If you need more help please contact us in #support!

topggDotRed Click here to follow our guide!

earnest geyser
#

for future reference, please note that this channel is for general auctions discussions. for questions related to other top.gg services, please use #support

river gulch
#

When will auctions end?
Sorry need to know, bc of dst.
In 5 hours?

earnest geyser
earnest slate
#

@woeful ruin <t:1648494000:R> (Just to have a counter here)

spring scarab
#

is everything running smoothly this week so far?

earnest geyser
#

if you're having any issues, please let us know and we'll look into it baldmisonod

spring scarab
#

sounds good

earnest geyser
#

-auctionstimes

lean whaleBOT
#

@stray bronze

earnest geyser
#

this week's ads haven't gone live yet

solemn tundra
#

How does the auctions work? When does it open & close etc? Is it weekly auction or?

earnest geyser
#
solemn tundra
#

Okey thanks!

earnest geyser
#

np avoLove

glacial stirrup
#

this also doesnt work

#

no mail or message from discord bot

candid lily
#

though dont put in something random and press that button because that will place a bid

#

which cant be removed yourself

#

also auctions recently ended aswell so you cant bid right now

glacial stirrup
candid lily
glacial stirrup
#

Before it used to send these messages

glacial stirrup
# candid lily

yea I know the auctions ended but before the auctions had ended I had placed a bid about 3 days ago with the notifications turned on but no notification came

glacial stirrup
candid lily
#

make sure your dms are enabled aswell

glacial stirrup
candid lily
glacial stirrup
candid lily
#

cant help then

glacial stirrup
earnest slate
#

@glacial stirrup

glacial stirrup
earnest slate
#

Hopefully this will be fixed for the next auctions 😅

neat valley
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azea

crude elm
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Auctions days must be stressful for topgg

stray bronze
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How to know when your turn will come at advertising slot

stray bronze
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Hello?

woeful ruin
stray bronze
woeful ruin
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I don’t believe so from what I’ve seen, you just kinda wait for the others to be done with no indication of it

earnest slate
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@lone geode Is this real? He really bid $250? 😳
(Referring to this: <#auctions-support message>)

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I have always wondered why users are still able to bid that high for a long time

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Because I have never seen a single ad going live from them

earnest slate
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I'd rather not say anything about my guesses, but this actually bugs me a bit that you see the user constantly throwing around high amounts, but he probably doesn't pay (At least I never saw an ad about his bot in the tags)...

lone geode
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In reality it doesnt change much, just odd that it keeps happening.

earnest slate
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System is maybe a bit buggy, which is sad, but we'll see what happens 😅

lone geode
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It also confuses people, I dont think these other two understand how the bidding works and it doesnt help when there is a bid for 250@1000

crude elm
crude elm
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I already reported to discord

lone geode
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there is some fishy stuff on their support server as well but this isnt really the place to get into that

earnest slate
lone geode
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1$

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but you are paying at a rate of 250$ per 1000 views, so, 4 views at 1$ 😄

sick goblet
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huh

zenith sky
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Tfw your bot gets verified the day after bidding ends so you have to wait till next week to advertise

zenith sky
tulip berry
lone geode
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at least its a cheap mistake 😄

void seal
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torpid surge
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0

earnest geyser
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for you server owners who run ads, what do you find makes users click your ads more?

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i'm asking as a server owner myself, looking to use auctions LOL

cursive sleet
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Sup

cursive sleet
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Dead server for

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Fr

neat valley
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How to add kano bot

earnest geyser
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oop

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swrong one

cursive sleet
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Oh shi thanks

earnest geyser
lean whaleBOT
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@neat valley

To find a bot that you need, please try searching the main feature you need on our website. You may have to refine your search term, but with just a little effort, you can find the bot you need. If you still haven't found a bot that suits your needs, then try searching Google for it.

earnest geyser
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also, please note that this channel is for general discussion regarding our auctions

neat valley
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I searched bot no bot of kano

earnest geyser
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sorry to hear that happened. perhaps there's something you could change within your server to retain members? the purpose of auctions is essentially to sell views on your ads rather than clicks / joins

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do you have a screenshot of this?

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oh, i see

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is there anything i can help you with rn then?

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sheesh KEKW

trail imp
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what does your ad look like?

nimble quail
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Xerill

quiet blade
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ui

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je t'aime

nimble quail
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Moi aussi ❤️‍🔥

quiet blade
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oh sorry ^^"

nimble quail
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Sorry :(

gleaming vector
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what will happen if someone don't pay for extra impressions?