#auctions-general
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Right.
ah i see, thank you very much : )
bid for fun thinking they will outbid you anyway
they don't
you have to pay quite a lot
never bid for fun
auctions still requires phone verification, no?
well, i had a budget anyway, but i just got too competitive
pretty sure it does, yea
Impressions are the estimated amount of views on your ad, right?
Let's say I bid for 1000 impressions... what happens to the ad if those are reached?
I mean I read the article, but doesn't actually know what happens to the ad... Does it disappear (in my example) after 1000 impressions happened?
According to the article, bidder 2 would be charged for his impressions then as there are more than 1000 estimated impressions
Yes, if you reach your limit of impressions your ad will be removed and the next will be shown
Ah... alright, so you will never be charged for more than your max bid?
You will never be charged more than your max budget.
@zealous stone looks like Traphouse hasn't payed lol
oh
but...
i have not gotten the option to pay
i checked tomorrow and i didnt had the option to pay
ask in #auctions-support
this true bro
what a meme stealer
Is there anyone who can explain to me how auctions actually work. My brain isn't large enough to work it out
Have you read our support articles already?
There are support articles?
Am i seriously this blind
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You can access auctions via top.gg/advertise.
click the second "click here" :)
Thank you
You're welcome! And if those articles dont answer a question, feel free to come back and ask 
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Yo
Are Analytics as always known to be broken?
try #auctions-support
So the person on the top of the auction only gets impression and not anyone else?
No, it goes until the tag runs out of impressions
So several different people with several different ads end up getting something
Oh okay thanks!

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I forgot auction 
when does the auctions get refreshed? like i won a auction but when does it appear on the site
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do i have to pay agaiN?
If youve already paid then you wont need to pay again unless you get more impressions than estimated
but you wont ever have to pay over your spending limit
i don't get the round 2 principle
correct 
and my ad runs from tuesday 19:00utc until next tuesday
itll run until you get all the impressions you paid for
does this mean that you also get credited at the end of the week when you get less impressions than estimated?
yes
impression is just a user who visited the page where the advertisement is in right?
yep!
a click is when a user actually clicks on your ad 
how does that work for the last auction of the month since credits don't roll over into next month afaik?
credits that get refunded never expire 
but if i'm using vote credit and that gets refunded, are you saying that then becomes permanent credit?
until you use it
but vote credit that never gets refunded in this manner expires at the end of the month? sorry just trying to understand
So yeah, if you get vote credits now, they expire after 30 days.
But a refund doesnt expire
so there's two buckets of credit, permanent and expires @ end of month. which credit gets used up first when bidding?
It creates seperate wallets in your account for you, im not sure if theres a specific order they get used in
i see, probably not related to this system but is it likely that "lunamusic" is going to get a refund? mushroom is getting over 2x impressions for the same total spend, not sure i understand why that is the way it is
in my mind, if two people are spending the same amount they should get the same impressions, no?
one would expect that by increasing CPM while leaving the total spend the same, they would lose impressions. but it seems like the opposite would happen for lunamusic in the example above. if they increase CPM to $8.11 while maintaining the same spend, they would actually gain impressions
Actually not as the guy with an higher total bid amount is about to spend more money on the ad
And people not only use vote credits
Somebody being able and ready to invest more should also get more for his money
that's not what i'm talking about though. increasing the CPM doesn't mean you're increasing your total spend. if two users are spending the same amount, they should get the same impressions
in the example above, lunamusic and mushroom are both spending $5000. yet mushroom is getting over 2x the impressions
so they aren't getting "more for their money," they're getting more for the same amount of money
which doesn't seem fair
If the max spend value would decide the total impressions like you say no new guy to auctions could make it in with their 100 limit
It’s totally fair as it is (now) imo
i'm not really seeing how it's fair to get 38% of the impressions that someone else is getting when you're spending as much as them on the same auction?
that's why i was asking @oak whale if lunamusic is expected to get a refund
because in a fair system, they would get a refund of ~$3000, no?
Impressions are received in the order of the CPM (cost per mile) - mushroom paid 8.10 CPM while lunamusic paid 8
I wonder if he’s even being charged for 5000 or just the amount he impressing he can actually get for 8.0
Since there only 232k left
so mushroom's ad will show first, then globalX, then Betty, and then LunaMusic
since it shows white on your screenshot, i would assume its on a tag that has that many impressions to be given
Xiuh he wants to know if Luna being charged for 5000
and yeah, theyre only charged up front for the estimated impressions they will receive (so no, they didn't pay 5k)
its possible that they will get more than 232k impressions if the tag ends up getting more impressions than we expected
so if they get exactly 232k impressions, there is no refund?
in which case they would need to retroactively pay for those impressions until they have paid a maximum of 5k
correct
Does he has to pay for estimated impressions or 5000 ?
they will only get a refund if they receive less than 232k impressions
he only pays for the estimated impressions
but they're spending $5000 for 232k impressions, while mushroom is spending $5000 for 617k impressions, hopefully you see my issue with that?
they did not spend 5k for 232k impressions
they only paid for 232k impressions at 8 dollars per 1 thousand
5k is their limit
not how much they paid
if mushroom receives 617k impressions how much would they end up spending?
their whole 5k
if lunamusic receives 232k impressions how much would they end up spending?
however much 232 times 8 is
232,7k impressions * 8,0 for Luna is what he being charged for
which is about 1.8k
You will only be charged for the total spend amount if there are enough impressions existing for your CPM amount
i see, so based on the estimated numbers they're expected to receive ~$3.2k in credit next week?
Confused me in the beginning too but is totally fair
no
they didnt pay that money in the first place, so they will not receive any refund/credit
i think that part is what confuses me, what was their upfront payment then?
the ~1.8k?
They only paid for the estimated amount of impressions - which was 232.77k. At a cost of $8 per 1k, they only are being charged today for $1,862.16
correct
okay cool, that makes total sense now. sorry for such a long exchange, just really wanted to understand the system since we're bidding on it so frequently
no worries at all! im glad i was able to clear up any confusion 
@coarse ermine If the total impressions are higher than what topgg calculated he will be charged after the ad ends
In this example
right, but never over their max spend. i think i get it now
But this can’t be calculated before as nobody knows how many visits actually happen
Yes
If he would set a limit of 2000 for example and already payed 1800 he could only be charged for another 200 bucks
If so many impressions would actually happen
Which would be ~25000 impressions in my example he could get until his ad ends
(200 bucks till 2000 * 8.0)
gonna reach 200% CTR
pov you use JavaScript
someone explain me why i need to pay for "extra impressions" how this makes sense
wasn't supposed to be expressions in the budget limit
If you receive more impressions than you were estimated to receive, but you did not spend your whole budget/bid limit - you will be asked to pay for the extra impressions that you received over estimations.
You are never charged more than what you put your limit to be.
basically in my wallet are 3$ and i need to pay almost 100$
It only charges you up to what you set your budget limit as for the previous week for extra impressions, so if you didn't have that money then why did you put your limit so high?
is there a budged for extra impressions ? quite odd
Its based off of your budget you set when you bid last week
your budget for auctions is your bid limit
wait so in the instance of retroactive charging, is the cap the max bid or the maximum amount of budget for that slot?
the budged isn't what i prepaid already ? 
The cap for retroactive charging is whatever you put your limit as for that tag when you originally bid. When you paid already, you paid for the estimated amount of impressions- which in this case, did not use up all of the budget. Since the tag got more impressions than estimated, but your budget was not used up, we continued to run your ad until your budget was used up
so the budget in this instance would be the blue one, is that correct? so the maximum amount I would have to pay is the amount I input in the the box in blue
okay, thanks for the clarification!
so if you bid 1 @ 15
and you paid 10 dollars up front for estimated impressions
then you get more than what was estimated
the max you would be charged would be 5 dollars
for a total of 15
alright, got it! thanks again

you should check https://auctions.top.gg/pay instead pls
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And I don't see my bot on that list.
Well yes, it probably ended many hours/days ago
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i dont know the language in your ss so i am not sure how to determine
Even though it's been more than 3 days, my bot is still not in search
I made a bid. What now? How does this work?
You gotta wait till Monday when this campaign is over
Which will probably require you to bid again as there’s a lot of time till Monday for others to bid too, may doing an higher bid
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any update on yeeting fastspring into the abyss and getting something good? 🥲
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yeah i saw that it said it was planned, just wasn't sure if there was anything new yet
i wanna start advertising again 
does mee6 bid on auctions still
Haven't seen it in a bit
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@brittle carbon^
@thorny flame no ads please

autocode is still there
also mushroom
can I be an auction research participant
without pouring tons of money in 😔
if you win an auction, you have to pay within 12hrs. if not, it’ll go to the runner-up and it’ll affect your rating negatively
if you have an open payment for extra impressions, you will have to pay this before being able to bid in auctions again
Is there anyone who has got his bot famous due to auctions?
alr
helps a lot ig
like hundreds of people will be able to see ur bot if u win
Yes currently I am at the top and the bid is ending in one day
It mostly depends on how unique your bots features are, how interesting your ad spot is (for example people wont click on something that doesn't sound professional and boring)
Aswell as making sure that users actually stay on your bot is how you manage to get it to grow through auctions
So you need something that actually keeps your bot users on the bot and just not kick it right after the first command
speaking from a personal perspective, but auctions is a way to get your bot seen, not having it guaranteed that you actually get users to keep your bot. If your bot is boring and not worth keeping in the server, it would just get kicked again. The second part is up to the bot dev to succeed on
Also why you might succeed more with a multipurpose bot than a utility one
Yo, how do you know I have a multipurpose bot
Magik
nah I didn't know that, just generally seeing multipurpose ones the most during queue
Not sure what the requirements of auctions research is, probably actively using auctions or something
Oh ok
there seems ot be problem with voting and people not getting rank for voting
In what timezone the auctions end? 
yay?
yay
man late bidders at it again
dang role management tag is expensive this week
so I could be wrong, but it looks like if you bid your exact same bid again it extends the time. Accidently did that and got an extension, didn't see anyone else bid so idk
Yeah so I was curious and tested it, you can in fact extend the time without actually submitting a "new" bid. If you just resubmit your existing bid, it extends the time
Not sure if there is a place to report bugs or not
not just this, but there was someone bidding below the top bid and extending the time for me, you can check it it the bids log. Moderation Tag - Slot 1 - bot
Auctions are a pain in the ass ngl
thats just a bug in the system
but also at some point you shouldnt be able to bid just .01 at a time
sitting here for half an hour cause of that is just...
it's just a really weird fucking system overall
mhm
but there's no real other way to handle something like this either

Maybe they should only increase 30/60second after bidding time is over
there should def. a max amount of extension, like 10 minutes
the max is 3 hours I think
that won't solve it ngl, people will just wait for it to happen
and bid in last milisecond
yup
wick bot lmao
i left moderation slot 1 because front page had better cpm rate
Just a shorter increase in time every bid, which keeps getting shorter every 1min
Sup
interesting I had the opposite
oh thank fuck it's over
oterlu
lmao i saw yes yes
I was getting like 1% on front page
got 3rd slot lol
moderation gives me much better cpm
I bet
which category is that
But I went with front page this time
Last time I had 12$ CPM on Moderation for about 4,6k impressions
Had 7% click rate, let's see how it goes this time
It's my 2nd time on auction
1st time my bot was unverified
Now after 1 entire month of waiting, it got verified, and I could unlock that shitty 99 server cap
Now I can take hundreds more, no problem lol
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if i don't get selected for the auctions research, pls lmk so i can send my question list 
Holy shit that Luna bot
Only MEE6 is familiar to me lol
Wick, Oterlu AI, Captcha Bot seen often auctioning too lmao
I have this problem too
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#topgg-api @hard relic
0,86%, 1 invite and 8k impressions used within 15min lmao

o.O
was that on main page?

I'll stick around with Moderation, because 5k impressions got me 300 invites
oh thats a good ratio
can i have roblox acc
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The roblox kid searching for free robux
lmao
Hi.
Hallo.
are impressions on your ads all "unique impressions" or can one person cause multiple impressions?
<@&817055174613794826> good question
where can I buy these?
How many credits do I have?
dang my click through rate is insane
Mine is better 
https://cdn.thecutefoxxy.com/t26I2t.png
Floating point numbers and broken code
Unfortunately I'd probably say ignore the estimated impressions and just the analytics in general cuz they seem incredibly broken rn so not sure how much i would trust the numbers
OK! Thanks
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pogg
Question, say you bid $1 cpm @ $100, but theres only 10k impressions, would you only have to pay $10?
theoretically, i would say so
Okay, was curious about how that was worked out
my thought was at payment you would pay the amount of estimated impressions
if you win an auctions, you do prepay for the estimated impressions based on your bid. if, at the end of the auctions cycle, it turns out that you received less impressions than estimated, you would be refunded. if you receive more impressions than estimated, the system would request a payment for the extra impressions. however, it will only charge you up to your max bid
that makes sense thank you
np! 
Looks like there are a few people who don't understand the bidding system this week.... 😕
I started doing this yesterday
I don't mean you, I mean the people bidding 100@100
zamn let them go crazy LMAOO
I mean, they aren't going to pay
it'll affect their auctions ratings negatively, so that's on them
I guess, but we can still underbid them so I guess it doesnt matter
yeah i mean if they don't pay, it'll go to a round 2 winner anyway
anyone else having issues with the bidding site right now? I can't select a promotable.
I was encourtering that, but it appeared after ~30s
Auctions end at 19:00 utc right? isnt that in... 5 minutes?
auctions does not follow DST, it ends in 1 hour and 5 minutes
dst do be doodoo
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I just saw the desc
(and so it doesnt get lost in this channel)
;_;
no worries!
oh boy, down to the wire
I wonder if i will be outbid by large bots in the last 5 minutes
before i log on, are there any auctions-breaking bugs this week?
guys time to make some coffee, in 5 minutes lets sit down and get these auctions rollin yaaa
my limit today is only 500$ cpm gl all
promotables are not loading
our site is generally being slow at the moment, but our devs are looking into it
so yes
gotcha
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there are 2 types of evil
- murderers
- people who bid +0,01 cent the last minute thinking theyre slick and making everyone else wait +30 minutes
Haha
- large bots that increase CPM by X10 last minute
lol
but the most annoying is when they repeatedly do it
and they wait for the last minute every damn time
even when the time gets extended they do it again
dear weird nft bot: please let me have at least a little bit of this category
wish people would just stop postponing their bid to the last second
its like dominoes
Never got something that cheap 😄
needing to clear your payments before bidding is ridiculous when bidding on multiple tags
now we're going to miss out because i had to pay before bidding again and then go back to a promotable list that doesn't even load
absolutely flawless system you have there
Rip auction broke
Shock, horror 
You can't select the product
how do you guys think it's acceptable to refund people in credits in situations like this? i wasn't affected but that's concerning
I do agree with this - refunding with credits does seem quite unfair
iirc there was still no decision made about refunding, could be wrong
The only way we can issue refunds is in credits. It isnt possible for us to make refunds any other way
probably means a decision on if people will even be refunded at all, unfortunately
we are still looking into whether we can extend auctions. if this is possible, we will be looking into refunding users who have already paid for won auctions
not to be rude but in that case imo just move on, fix everything for next week and drop the talk about refunds etc. it's all done and in the past now
@night sky should we pay auction or wait till theirs a desicion?
please wait
Ok np
right, but in credits
that is the only way we can issue refunds
why?
yeah surely you can refund in fastspring? not sure i understand that one
You or FastSpring Support can refund credit card transactions up to 6 months after an order. However, PayPal orders must be refunded within 3 months.
All questions about cancellations, refunds, etc need to wait until we fix the issue first
SO please calm down and stop asking and we will get back to people as soon as we fix the issues first.
this particular issue has been reported across several auction cycles though - is there an ETA?
i think this person has no clue how bids work https://capy-cdn.xyz/G0odmKOK.png
What particular issue do you mean in this case?
I imagine it's not that they can't, it's that they won't.
Fastspring refunds probably have to be done individually
A bunch of paypal/fastspring refunds gets them in trouble
There's fees involved
So refunding by credit can be done in bulk, doesn't affect their payment gateway 'reputation' and has no additional fees for them.
I also imagine, however, that in most countries you could argue their decision to refund in credit and get an actual refund. And take further action until they do. But that's a lot of effort that most people won't explore.
idk, i think the valid option of a chargeback in the case of a credit refund would hurt their standing with the payment processor more than simply refunding everyone. regardless i don't think they'll end up going down this road anyways
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these examples, which happened again today
if I remember correctly, that might possibly be caused by adblocker blocking auctions-essential scripts
seen users experience that before
though cant 100% tell since I cant see if it affected the other sections
Yup was able to reproduce, my adblocker blocked the promotables list from showing up
i had to dig in a bit more and it seems like the promotables actually come from the websocket connection... so i don't think adblocker would do anything
you really do just have to wait for it to show up
what i wonder is if they could just cache the response in the browser so that when we refresh, we have the local data which should be correct most of the time?
then at least we don't need to wait around to bid (i'd hope)
I do all bidding in incognito, so adblocker is always disabled. Still had the issue, but I had 20 tabs open for different tags out of habit so I just changed the tag on some of the extra tabs.
am kinda leaning towards possibly having gotten ratelimited maybe?
could you perhaps open your inspect element console and check the network tab if you know how to do that
it should possibly mention somewhere a 429 code, meaning ratelimited
the promotables data comes from the socket connection though, not an http request
this userinfo payload has all the promotables
you pretty much have to just wait around for that payload to be sent... so if there's rate limiting then it's probably on top.ggs own backend which is stalling their database query that pulls the user data or something
but there's nothing the end user can really do about it
something they gotta fix
Should specify in announcement auto-refund is credit only if that's the case as described earlier
I'm illegally blind
mhm
Me, who forgot to bid and now has a chance to do 😂
yeah 
Same
Man i totally got screwed with the extension
I'm currenyly stuck fighting someone who's going for both DnD Slots, like come on let my bot have 1 please
yea i got snuffed out by this dumb waifu bot
oof
I ended up going for the big price jump cause I need this to help grow my bot now that it's back
Ayy got em awesome
nicee
Didn't realize there was extra fees though, not end of the world but oof made my thing $15 more expensive
yeah
dont pay again
wait for the refund to come through and if you have automatic payments then it'll do it automaticlaly
You will need to pay again
the previous one will be refunded
So you will only pay once total
so are you saying that the refund is not likely before due time?
aww come on, me and lofi were just having a nice moment doing meme numbers 😿
The refund should be done before the payment window ends so you can use your refund to pay
First auction ever, first place on the site successfully secured o.o
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I just wonder where some people get so much money from 

Or are willing to pay so much money for a few impressions
big bots can be paid shit tons of money, especially subscriptions
True, some bots can pay their bills with their active "Premium users" but it would be interesting to know why people would pay $100 for not even 1000 impressions 😅
Mostly because they arent familiar with how CPM works and don't read our articles on it
I had a rly good bid but lost it due to the hour delay 😢
Yeah, i just started doing auctions yesterday and the first thing i did was look at the articles.
I mean people not knowing is a plus for you guys because you're likely getting paid more money
Or those people just don't pay?
Which makes it frustrating for everyone.
How? If they don't pay it will just go to the next person
Oh wait but then that person has to pay and they didn't know they had to
if people bid on something, then they should be prepared to potentially pay
you should really only bid if you're certain you can pay what you're bidding
should
we are talking about people that don't know what they're doing, lol
yeah, should is the keyword
yesn't, it inflates prices or whatever. its annoying as fuck, but it'll happen.
Exactly why I suggested a warning feature when bidding a very bad CPM, and the suggestion was removed 
was it archived or deleted?
Not sure, its just not there anymore
Not merged either, or it would say that. it just says not found
do you have the link for it?
yeah, i looked it up in our logs and it was moved to "planned"
Not sure why the link is now invalid tho 
i can ask about it and then if you want, you can resubmit it
yep probably will do
hey, could you please provide some more detail on this?
sure
Before 2 weeks
I bidded on front page slot 2 ,but got oudbidded.But I recieved at tuesday the impression,since somebody was probs unable to pay.Since the next bidding was before it.I bidded last tuesday and got the slot and impressions.Now I will have to still pay the from the last 2 weeks and my 35$ got charged twice since I paid upfront
and my 35$ disappered ,really weird
do you have automatic payments on?
Sadly yes
okay, so prior to the top most entry in your payment history, you had the $35?
I had more earlier ,but after the refund it setted by balance to 35.
Afaik it was 38.03$
Do you get charged extra when you get more impressions even if you bid on less?
i've checked the system and it seems that prior to the top most history entry, your wallet had $35 on there. what i can do is advise that you turn off automatic payments and then i can refund you the $35 as well
if your ad receives more impressions than esitmated, you will only be charged up to your max bid
so if you bid $1 @ $10, you would max get charged $10 in that auction
ok I turned it off
okay, i will process the refund just now!
it should be through now 
Thx worked
I'm really wishing I could do bids again, but even after waiting a couple months it still won't let me put funds into my wallet, no matter what I do to try and fix it...
I know it was mentioned that you guys might go ahead and switch to a different payment service, is there any idea when that would happen?
#auctions-support
@everyone
lol
This "BlueLine" bot developer must have a lot of money... 
I always question how devs have so much money to throw towards their bots growth
I can only just afford to host the bot, let alone advertise it
then cancel the nitro that youre using to boost this server lmao
I won that from this server
LOL
o 
😂
Some also may not know how Auctions work and spend money they do not have 
also true
when i top up my auction account, the taxes it calculates are from paypal or country based? because if they are country based it makes no sense
initially it makes sense, but if you think about it topgg pays taxes only for the country of the company, unless fastpring does something else
nope is taxes depending on customer
I wish there was a kpop and card game bot category to advertise bots in >_<
I want to advertise, but I can only advertise server rather than bot because of the few bot categories
And advertising servers gets so many trolls T_T
Cpm based auctions interesting
💀
Has anyone here owned a bot and had success with mass marketing of that bot through the auction system? If so what was your pickup rate on that bot with a decent budget curious
I think it pales in comparison to people spreading bots they like naturally because they like it
And also compared to server adverts which you can get free
But maybe if you are running the bot like a company, with a real budget, it can be a decent way
Yeah true. Depends on how far someone wants to take it
But I'm not a strong believer in allocating a budget to one main strategy I do think however if the pickup rate is decent it could be diversified into a well rounded marketing strategy. However I'm curious of that pickup rate
I'd love to hear success stories for using this as a marketing medium
hi
Honestly embarrassing
I feel like this ruins an auction
what does?
like really? over $115 for 1k impressions?
and other people cant bid because of stupid high cpm
they pay what theyre willing to pay for those impressions
you can bid lower than them and still get impressions
i must be misunderstanding it because i did and theres 0 impressions
do the budgets have to be higher?
well with clover taking 59.1k impressions its likely there isnt anything left underneath them
then there are no more impressions to be captured
impressions are given in order of CPM bid
Oh i see
im not too sure why people want to pay over $100 for ~1k impressions
because they want the impressions for their product
how does this impression thing work exactly
Some also do not understand auctions, sadly. However, there is still a chance to get impressions e. g. someone does not pay
is there anything in particular that you're wondering about?
You will be advertised on the corresponding page, or what do you want to know? 😄
impressions are the number of times your ad gets seen. nothing else to it
I just wanted to know what it meant. Because every server has impressions, some server has more than others. But I believe apex answered that question
yeah, impressions are the number of views an ad gets
i've got an article that explains it a bit better, if you want to know more
it's in the supp article for how to use auctions as well
Yes please
hold on
this is our supp article on auctions in general: https://support.top.gg/support/solutions/articles/73000508264-how-do-i-use-auctions-
thank u very much Elle!!
Elle I have another question too but this isnt the support channel lmao. Should I go to the support channel if I have more questions
i believe we'd usually divert all questions and stuff to #auctions-support, so it might be better if we go there
Did I understand correctly that if the previous bidder does not pay, then automatically the next highest bidder will be able to place his ad?
if a round 1 winner (product shown in white on the bidding list) fails to pay, then a round 2 winner (product listed in grey with highest bid on the bidding list) will be chosen instead
the impressions trickle down until they run out 
how many bots will win from the leaderboard?
all the product names in white are considered round 1 winners
so they'll initially win, but if any of them end up failing to pay, the impressions will trickle down to the product names in grey
okay but why does it says 8? there are way more than 8 bots in the leaderboard white
That number is the amount of people currently looking at the tag to place a bid
Like, on the page right now looking at the tag
it's when someone bids more than you
but there are people under me?
Then those people have not outbid you 
you only bought so many impressions- there may be more left over for other people to get underneath you
okay. and how is it possible to get on the second winner list(the grey bots)
if people bid higher than you and buy so many impressions that there aren't enough to go down the whole list, people turn gray when they will not receive any impressions
youre welcome!
When I am on the grey line, I have not to pay something or?
You will not have to pay for impressions up front, but if the tag gets more impressions than expected or someone in front of you does not pay, then you may be charged retroactively next week
how it works the bidding?
@pliant raptor you really want the meme tag huh 


Me sitting here and predicting that the developer in front of me does not pay
bidding is fun.
it rlly is 
Yes, but you still have to be careful 😅
At least they give you the chance to not pay which just affects your bidding rate
i just get all my money from credits and bid what ever i have left in the overtime 
never spent any irl money on bidding other than like 3 bucks

there was a competition there for a good 5 mins
i am assuming the other guy just let me win kek
ty for letting me win this @twin crown
lol
lume just isnt stopping 
well, it will affect whether you get approved for raising your bid limit to $5000+
@pliant raptor that good enough for u?
seems like we got a solution 
🤝
was fun while it lasted 
NOOO
LUME
I THOUGHT WE HAD SOMETHING 
@misty harness why 
cant wait to watch the NEO guy not pay up
Did someone ever request this? 😳

imagine not having over $5000 already
its you
I have never seen a developer bidding more than $1-2.000
yes, plenty of people do
Oh, alright
you've never seen mee6? they always be bidding the cap 
Okay, wow...
even mushroom lol
yep
also autocode
they're a bit crazy to pay 4x the average cpm
but thats my opinion
sometimes they go like 6k
I just keep an eye on the tags I want to bid on
uh oh 
yeah but there's only like a 60% chance they'll actually pay 
I think they do

also is elle a new support agent? 
never seen them before
me and elle are the support agents 
iirc you were mod before
elle and i im sorry please dont ban me

I mean the highest role lol

/ban @vapid bronze r00d
elle and i are the support agents 
anyone with the Support Team role is part of the support team at top.gg
(official employees)
ah
(official cool people)


oh yes, hello friends
How is something like that even possible? xD
Guys I won my first auction and Idk what will happen but gg
idk why people do that 
it shouldn't be and it doesn't really make sense LOL
first time auctions user moment
thats why my suggestion should be implimented 
people likely do it because they don't understand how the system works
Thats a mistake I would do
im good, thank you
hope youre doing well
#auctions-general message this guy goes from asking how bidding works to dropping hundreds of dollars on tags they aren't gonna pay for 
our supp articles on auctions will be super helpful!!
I am thanks! Glad your doing good 
im not sure what goes through their heads when they put it like that though - it literally says @
"120 at 100" how does that makes sense
Yes, these articles helped me a lot
like even if you didnt use cpm

Yeah I read the article about CPM :)
lmfao-
i dont see how that makes sense
sometimes it can happen accidentally though
i understood it the moment it was released partially 
It was just 5 minutes reading and then I got how it works 😅
Before that I was like "I am not sure, better read it"
i still havent read it 
i guess it varies from person to person, but hopefully the supp articles should help
if not, please feel free to send us feedback on which parts require clarification, so that we can keep improving our articles 
I learnt by watching other people lol
same lmao
https://capy-cdn.xyz/PgINX26g.png this is what we need 
take notes 

Looks like a good solution
LOL
ignore the colours 
i'm fucking around with SweetAlert2 now so thought I would make that 
what even are the top.gg colours 
dark red and slightly less dark red

that’s going to be annoying as fuck. atleast make a “don’t show this again” option
only to show on odd cpms
like $100 @ $100
Oh right
Why are people paying like 1 dollar for each impression 🤔
How rich are they
also, why is there such a big difference between stream tag slot 1 and 2?
LOL i'll forward this to our devs
thanks for flagging that! weird how they can vary so much
but how do we cooperate when there can only be one ad on display in a slot
Well one way is the kind of passive, moral/social cooperation we normally do almost instinctively. Like we are almost all of us against some things and don't like people who do it
multiple people can get a piece of the impressions pie
true I guess everyone can auction at a low quantity and at a low price for cooperation
but what if someone wants more impressions? Thats the problem
then they just bid more
Well I'm not expecting or hoping for more cooperation but just in theory
lol I got 40k impressions for a total of 81.20$ and only 30 ppl clicked
bro got scammed 💀
It is all about descriptions and your ad in general! 😄
I got 179 clicks out of 7540 impressions so far
And I payed about $30
The impressions is basically anything on your ad, such as a view (aka anybody viewing that tag and seeing your ad)
the click is up to how you design your product, if your product doesn't look interesting at all, you'll likely get a small amount of clicks
if your product is interesting and seems to be useful for users, you'll get more clicks and thus a higher CTR
so for example
"Damn! I'm an artist and wish to engage with this community, sure will click on that ad"
and "Damn I'm not 18+ yet, so this isn't really a community for me, so I better not click on that ad"
also how is that ad up? 
and this one, this ad doesn't seem to give the viewer much information of what it is, what they can expect on it and nothing interesting. Only thing they know is that it is an anime based server and thats it
Its entirely up to you on how to actually design your products appearance on top.gg, the appearance is the key to getting a higher ctr
also on tags which you have no correlation to your product at all wont generate clicks either
@candid lily I changed my discord bot name but it is not updated in top.gg website how to i update this
@earnest geyser
#support and click refresh data on bot page
I got the most clicks ive ever had before from a tag completely unrelated to my bot so 
just a stroke of luck ig
its not necesarily luck though
lots of stuff go into crafting a nice and enticing ad
what amkes you say that
Im not very good at the whole "making stuff appealing" thing since i tend to keep everything as simple as possible
simple is appealing to people though!
yeah thats true i guess
think about which parts of your bot usually attract people
there's a reason people are clicking and using your bot
i'm sure you can use all that good info to curate a nice ad!
i just typed like an essay and forgot half way what i was gonna say 
but yeah i guess i could do that
lol
@brave dirge dont
Hey how can I setup this bot on my server?
Can anyone tell me?
If you're talking about @zealous fjord there's no setup
@shy ore dont be rude to other users, thanks.
yes we are all around
Because the auctions hasn't ended yet? Or have you already gotten a spot?
Aka already have paid after winning a spot
You can likely read more about it here https://support.top.gg/support/solutions/articles/73000508264-how-do-i-use-auctions-
Sorry to necro but shouldn't that just mean they'll get less than 1000 impressions?
Totally possible.
Nope, such numbers should not be possible 😅
You want to pay 120$ but have a limit of $100 which is not possible at all
it is possible and it does mean theyll get less than 1000 impressions
Oh, it is?
yep
My bad then
if i bid 10 at 5 then ill get 500 impressions
sorry
10 at 5
it doesnt make much sense, true. but it is possible
I was just confused because of this 😅
im not sure if we are going to prevent it from happening in the future (aka "shouldnt be") but i know that is currently possible and works as it says it will - itll charge you what you stated and give you the impressions you bid for at that price
Yeah, true
How can I add my bot (Can you reply by tagging me)
-addbot
Adding Your Bot To Top.gg
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Click here to follow our guide!
When will auctions end?
Sorry need to know, bc of dst.
In 5 hours?
yep, it'll end in <t:1648494000:R> 
@woeful ruin <t:1648494000:R> (Just to have a counter here)
is everything running smoothly this week so far?
seems so!
if you're having any issues, please let us know and we'll look into it 
sounds good
-auctionstimes
@stray bronze
this week's ads haven't gone live yet
How does the auctions work? When does it open & close etc? Is it weekly auction or?
if you haven't already read our support article on auctions, i'd recommend going over that and related articles first. hold on, let me find the links
https://support.top.gg/support/solutions/articles/73000508264-how-do-i-use-auctions-
https://support.top.gg/support/solutions/articles/73000508235-how-does-cpm-bidding-work-
https://support.top.gg/support/solutions/articles/73000508280-how-the-auctions’-bid-limit-works
https://support.top.gg/support/solutions/articles/73000528198-using-your-vote-credit
What’s CPM? CPM, also known as cost per mille, is the amount you’re willing to pay per thousand impressions on your advertisement on our page. For instance, if you bid $2.00 CPM, that means you have to pay $2.00 per 1000 impressions of your prod...
Before reading this article, please read our Auctions Overview here to understand how advertising on Top.gg works. To access your auctions profile, first navigate to the Advertise page located here. Your auctions profile will present you with in...
What are Vote Credits? Vote Credits are exclusively used for Auctions which is Top.gg’s Advertising product. Every month, when your entity (Discord Server, Discord Bot, or DAO) reaches over 100 votes (i.e. 101), you’ll be able to claim $15 USD w...
Okey thanks!
np 
Uhh I am unable to change the avatar of the ad
this also doesnt work
no mail or message from discord bot
you need to enter something first there before it shows up
though dont put in something random and press that button because that will place a bid
which cant be removed yourself
also auctions recently ended aswell so you cant bid right now
I did
I had enabled this option when using this
Before it used to send these messages
yea I know the auctions ended but before the auctions had ended I had placed a bid about 3 days ago with the notifications turned on but no notification came
before it came correctly here
make sure your dms are enabled aswell
Its all enabled
Its allowed
cant help then
Thanks for trying
@glacial stirrup
Oh thank you so much
Hopefully this will be fixed for the next auctions 😅
Indeed
azea
Auctions days must be stressful for topgg
How to know when your turn will come at advertising slot
Hello?
When your impressions go up
Any other way
I don’t believe so from what I’ve seen, you just kinda wait for the others to be done with no indication of it
@lone geode Is this real? He really bid $250? 😳
(Referring to this: <#auctions-support message>)
I have always wondered why users are still able to bid that high for a long time
Because I have never seen a single ad going live from them
That server literally breaks tos
I'd rather not say anything about my guesses, but this actually bugs me a bit that you see the user constantly throwing around high amounts, but he probably doesn't pay (At least I never saw an ad about his bot in the tags)...
wdym breaks tos?
In reality it doesnt change much, just odd that it keeps happening.
System is maybe a bit buggy, which is sad, but we'll see what happens 😅
It also confuses people, I dont think these other two understand how the bidding works and it doesnt help when there is a bid for 250@1000
They where giveaway old account and saying u need invites to enter in to some of the giveaways
ah, yea thats not allowed
I already reported to discord
there is some fishy stuff on their support server as well but this isnt really the place to get into that
"Read the articles" is all we can say here 😢
4 impressions 😭
how much to pay is it 250+1?
huh
Tfw your bot gets verified the day after bidding ends so you have to wait till next week to advertise
um… #bids message
at least its a cheap mistake 😄
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for you server owners who run ads, what do you find makes users click your ads more?
i'm asking as a server owner myself, looking to use auctions LOL
Sup
How to add kano bot
this channel is for general discussion regarding our auctions. #general is likely the channel you're looking for 
oop
swrong one
Oh shi thanks
-how2search
@neat valley
To find a bot that you need, please try searching the main feature you need on our website. You may have to refine your search term, but with just a little effort, you can find the bot you need. If you still haven't found a bot that suits your needs, then try searching Google for it.
also, please note that this channel is for general discussion regarding our auctions
next time, please use #support 
I searched bot no bot of kano
sorry to hear that happened. perhaps there's something you could change within your server to retain members? the purpose of auctions is essentially to sell views on your ads rather than clicks / joins
do you have a screenshot of this?
oh, i see
is there anything i can help you with rn then?
sheesh 
what does your ad look like?
Xerill
Moi aussi ❤️🔥
oh sorry ^^"
Sorry :(
what will happen if someone don't pay for extra impressions?










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