auctions-general

[low hinge]

yea one second

the CPM auction is having some weird payment things for non-rounded numbers

kinda weird that i didn't see this in any of the tests

[somber iris]

lmao that's funny, 42 times

it repeated 42 times

[reef saffron]

velds tests are porp just

payBidsTest() {
assertTrue(true)
}``` ![smirk](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/585884287320981554.webp?size=128 "smirk")

best test since it can never fail

[distant sparrow]

xD

[low hinge]

[final sluice]

@low hinge i know you said all bids show but i still dont see mine

[honest locust]

took mine a few minutes to show up ^

[final sluice]

veld said it was fixed and others reported seeing it

[jagged basalt]

@low hinge when does the promotion spot for CPMs go effective once paid?

do you have to wait for all of the higher bidders above you to pay first?

[violet sand]

#580510490074152961

[jagged basalt]

this is about the new CPM system.

[night narwhal]

I already paid, but now it says this... What should I do xd

[jagged basalt]

#580510490074152961 does not clarify it at all

[astral moat]

its the same

[violet sand]

I see
People who paid a higher CPM than you will be shown first, once their budget runs out and if theres still impressions left you will be shown instead

[jagged basalt]

oh that's gonna suck

[rigid knoll]

[reef saffron]

you can calculate it with some quick maths

[jagged basalt]

gotta wait 6 hours for higher bidders to pay before even mine is reached

lmao

[astral moat]

no

[reef saffron]

got an excel spreadsheet on it

[violet sand]

i do

[astral moat]

even if they pay right now, it wont go into effect till tomorrow like all other tags

[violet sand]

sort of

[reef saffron]

took like 3 seconds to make

[violet sand]

Some graphs on the CPM stats on the Top Page slots compared to last week
These graphs assume the estimated impresions are correct and everyone will pay

Both Slots: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/396848636081733632/838859230614257674/unknown.png
Slot 1: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/396848636081733632/838859684567056404/unknown.png (estimated cutoff at $1.7 CPM)
Slot 2: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/396848636081733632/838860200734621723/unknown.png (estimated cutoff at $1.55 CPM)

Revenue on Slot 1 increased by 50%
Most impressions on Slot 2 went for a bit less than last week, however all losses were nullified by whoever was bidding literally 2x

[reef saffron]

is it a new feature on dblstatistics?

[astral moat]

lmao i didn't even know there was 2 slots. they aren't together on the list

[violet sand]

We don't support Auctions at all rn
We're still waiting for an actual Auctions API for that but I dont know how long thats going to take

[tulip wharf]

uh is this known

it has like 2 pages of the same thing lol

[somber iris]

its broken

[night narwhal]

[tulip wharf]

ah ok

[somber iris]

also congrats you got as much as mines

lmao

i got 43 dupes

ctrl + f = slot 1

how many results?

[fathom dust]

540 .-.

[somber iris]

HAHAHAHAAHA

what's the total price of that lmfao

[fathom dust]

now check ctrl + f = bug

[somber iris]

i know its a bug

its just funny

[neat valley]

why is there 2 of the same bids

Saying I need to pay for lol

[fathom dust]

bug

[neat valley]

ah

[distant sparrow]

Bit confused now, are u able to see cpm related payments on page?

[neat valley]

pog mines fixed

[fathom dust]

no, I guess you pay them when they will show up

[distant sparrow]

Ahh that's nice ..!

[violet sand]

i'm pretty sure you were supposed to pay them in the same window aswell iirc

[fathom dust]

really?

cause not showing for me

[distant sparrow]

Same

[fathom dust]

but my bid is like 6th or 7th in the row

[night narwhal]

@violet sand could you help me with something?

I just paid, but it still shows this... What should I do?

[fathom dust]

bug

just ignore

[violet sand]

ping veld in #auctions-support about that

[fathom dust]

.-.

[night narwhal]

I paid like 10 minutes ago

[fathom dust]

oh

so...

what did u guys bid on?

this week

[night narwhal]

He ignored me sadly

[night narwhal]

Anime tag

[fathom dust]

wow

[violet sand]

pretty sure literally everyone had issues
if you got missed just try again

[fathom dust]

this one is expensive

[night narwhal]

I already got charged xd, I don't want to pay 150$ more

[vital thicket]

yeah everyone had issues

he was busy fixing everything

[fathom dust]

most people on support than on general p-p

[distant sparrow]

xD it's more entertaining

[fathom dust]

lmao

Veld must be tired rn

[distant sparrow]

He is! I hope he doesnt have another main job and this as part time or something , its alot to do, RIP completely

[fathom dust]

probably this is his job

[distant sparrow]

Ohh

[fathom dust]

Music Devs makes him rich haha

[distant sparrow]

Yeah could be

[lilac copper]

missed bidding, oops

why do I feel like I'm going to be paying for second place here lol

[distant sparrow]

Yeah but it's also a partnership so again alot of things which he has to do himself or with a very short team

[neat valley]

this site finna make like at least 3000 dollars today

Let alone the other ways they make income

[rigid knoll]

All goes to the mothership

[distant sparrow]

More than 3k xD

[fathom dust]

ModBot was miss click?

[neat valley]

u right

[distant sparrow]

But I guess even they have to pay to their team for helping and stuff

[neat valley]

im sure they make a nice commission

something like that

[lilac copper]

was it?

[fathom dust]

idk, cause you said you were going for 2nd slot

and I guess you are Dank's dev

.-.

[rigid knoll]

[fathom dust]

or probably I missunderstood

[rigid knoll]

that made no sense

[lilac copper]

I said I have a feeling I'll get second place, that looks like a troll bid who won't pay

[fathom dust]

oh, ok

[distant sparrow]

Ofc but again they also had an idea and worked on implementing it ,growing userbase and stuff ..that's alot of hardwork

And getting partnerships

[neat valley]

mhm

[rigid knoll]

partnerships with who

[fathom dust]

partnerships with Oliver is stonks

[neat valley]

there’s a whole page of partnerships at the bottom

[fathom dust]

he bids for a few bots every month

[lilac copper]

@vital thicket hey rude bitch, mantaro is cool and all but that's rude

<3

[distant sparrow]

xD I mean with their ads or discord or other people its alot of work and then developing things, pitching ideas and code, test ,resolve everything within a small team is tough

[rigid knoll]

medal aka the mothership

[fathom dust]

when dank dev get's mad because he got outbid

[lilac copper]

I'm not mad lol

[fathom dust]

just kidding lmao

[vital thicket]

hi cutie

[fathom dust]

.-.

[distant sparrow]

Yeap!

[rigid knoll]

Medal vampire the funds top.gg makes lul

[distant sparrow]

Wait are u part of Dank development team ? @lilac copper

[lilac copper]

does kode ask for this advertising or are you just being a dope person

[fathom dust]

he is the team 😎

end user is pro

[vital thicket]

read bmg lol

i'm just giving them out

i have no use for them

[lilac copper]

ah credits

fair

[fathom dust]

[vital thicket]

[fathom dust]

make giveaway on Pokétwo's server

[rigid knoll]

it's free real estate

[distant sparrow]

Well I am glad I joined this server!! @lilac copper love it!!! And jeez hes so sarcastic love the humour and how greedy he is xD

[fathom dust]

imagine getting 3000 USD Auction Credits per month

[fathom dust]

just like the bot

[distant sparrow]

I was talking abt the bot 🤣 🤣 🤣

[fathom dust]

if you be active here everyday you will see all big devs

[fathom dust]

oh

I thought you were talking about Melmsie

.-.

[distant sparrow]

Idk if end user is like that ,I hope he is xD

[fathom dust]

definitelly

he looks like

[distant sparrow]

Pepe xD

[fathom dust]

.-.

so

what is your bot called Sangs?

or server

idk

[distant sparrow]

Hahahah I have a server made it few days ago :) Bel Air

And tbh I am surprised most of bots are developed by people in school or idk university level

[fathom dust]

yeah

[distant sparrow]

And how they try to help others in learning how to code and stuff

[fathom dust]

that's not a "job", so

[distant sparrow]

And code checkins

[fathom dust]

nice

I've learnt by my own Js just to make a bot

[distant sparrow]

Yeah its not a job but this is a good community

[fathom dust]

yeah

[distant sparrow]

Omg that's great well I did learn some coding in university then changed my career to something else xD

[fathom dust]

xD

[distant sparrow]

Yeah maybe I will give it a shot someday! And make a bot perhaps xD

[fathom dust]

nice

good luck 🙂

[distant sparrow]

Yes sir ty!!!!

[fathom dust]

what is bmg btw?

[lilac copper]

private server for large bots

[fathom dust]

oh

large how

10K+ servers?

probably something around that

[lilac copper]

100k

[fathom dust]

wow

ok, not for me haha

[pseudo cedar]

10k is not very large

[fathom dust]

for me it is

nowadays it's so hard to make a bot grow

[rigid knoll]

not really

[pseudo cedar]

Discord is the largest its ever been

[fathom dust]

your bot has to be unique and awesome

[lilac copper]

people said the same thing in 2017, here I am now

[pseudo cedar]

theres more room to grow now than ever

[rigid knoll]

if the bot is actually semi decent it'll grow

[fathom dust]

.-.

[fathom dust]

well, I think mine is pretty good, but it grows like 3 servers per week

[rigid knoll]

If it's another multipurpose bot, music bot without funds or moderation bot though, it';s probably gonna die

[fathom dust]

only last week, with a 13 USD bid it grow more

[fathom dust]

it is a multipurpose bot, but with some "unique" features

not exactly unique, but different than the others we know

[rigid knoll]

personally if it was me i'd ditch all the multipurpose stuff and drive the unique

people really dont care about having a couple more bots in the server

[fathom dust]

the unique is small like

a small part of the bot

[pseudo cedar]

my philosphy is to do 1 thing really good and not 100 things poorly

[rigid knoll]

[fathom dust]

pro

[reef saffron]

^

i rather have 10 different bots doing stuff perfect than one bot doing everything mediocre

[fathom dust]

I guess my bot is good for my coding tier, but it's nothing compared to what you guys make

[rigid knoll]

bro I swear you ditch name.com and they just keep coming back

[lilac copper]

what if I do one thing poorly

[rigid knoll]

The loophole no one ever knew

[fathom dust]

do it again, and it becomes Dank Memer

[rigid knoll]

but ngl yes it'll grow

and i sadly know that from experience

[fathom dust]

I hope so

I bid 30 USD this week

[rigid knoll]

You make a bot that quotes the bible and kicks you when you swear its just

[fathom dust]

.-.

[pseudo cedar]

its important to really nail the ux flow

to make sure that the user can figure as much stuff out by themselves as possible

[rigid knoll]

and remember

[fathom dust]

😐

[rigid knoll]

users are dumb as fuck

[fathom dust]

.-.

we are users

[rigid knoll]

you give them any more than two buttons to press they're like

[fathom dust]

lmao

[hardy imp]

its hard to innovate with a bot when its pretty limited overall in what you can do, but I would say there is still room to excel. Even then it will not grow just like that, you have to invest in advertisment too

[rigid knoll]

hell i gave them one button and they struggle sometimes

[fathom dust]

yeah

[reef saffron]

not really, theres ton of stuff you can do

[fathom dust]

the problem is that, at least during this pandemic I don't have money to spend, so I can just use my credits

[rigid knoll]

you dont necessarily have to be brand new design never been seen before, you just have to do it better than any of the competition

[hardy imp]

you would be rich if there is ton of stuff to do still

[fathom dust]

which I get only 30 USD per month

[rigid knoll]

You really dont need to spend money on auctions to grow a bot though

[fathom dust]

15 from my bot and 15 from my server

[rigid knoll]

they give you a temporary boost

but if the bot sucks you'll loose the userbase as quickly as you got it

[fathom dust]

well, it's not a poggy bot, but I guess there is no reason why people would hate it

except if people doesn't like pokémon

[rigid knoll]

what do you do better than say poke2 or another bot?

[fathom dust]

I have a project, but only for next year. I can't tell it, so people wont steal it to me, and I cant do this year

it will only work next year

[low hinge]

[fathom dust]

so for now only pokémon

[rigid knoll]

trust me i doubt people are gonna go out of their way to steal it

[fathom dust]

hmmm

[rigid knoll]

like when i see people asking how to obfuscate their bot code but keep it open source to 'stop people stealing it'

[fathom dust]

ok

well

my idea is

making a World Cup Trading Cards simulator

like

the sticker album

[hardy imp]

basically pokemon but football

[fathom dust]

lmao

no

[hardy imp]

I think it could work, I just dont know if football fans are on discord that much

[reef saffron]

✅ new project started ;P

[fathom dust]

😐

[reef saffron]

jk

im way to lazy

[fathom dust]

yeah, that's a problem

[reef saffron]

i need to update my bot

havent updated it since december

[hardy imp]

damn is world cup next year ? Somehow it feels like a decade since the last LMAO

[reef saffron]

so its basically a passive income

[fathom dust]

but for now I'll only try growing my bot

[fathom dust]

yes lmao

2022

[hardy imp]

I swear it feels so long ago

[fathom dust]

haha

so

what is your bot about?

and he is gone

[reef saffron]

f

[rigid knoll]

lul

[hardy imp]

who were you asking

[fathom dust]

you

.-.

and ChillFish

[rigid knoll]

oh

[hardy imp]

oh, raid-helper -> scheduling bot https://top.gg/bot/579155972115660803

[rigid knoll]

I run your generic anime bot https://crunchy.gg

[fathom dust]

nice

[fathom dust]

I know this bot lmao

[hardy imp]

😄

[fathom dust]

I saw it somewhere on top.gg

mine is BulbaBot: https://top.gg/bot/773308821518680084

[hardy imp]

best of the starter pokemon 👍

[fathom dust]

trying to get 200 servers

[rigid knoll]

I dont do pokemon so idk what it is but 👍

[fathom dust]

yeah

[fathom dust]

lmao

[vital thicket]

lol why is it tagged CSGO

[fathom dust]

it has a CSGO stats command

.-.

[vital thicket]

wtf

why

[fathom dust]

idk .-.

I made this command for my friends

[vital thicket]

lol

ok

[fathom dust]

and I wanted to add it

[fathom dust]

.-.

oliver checking my bot

never imagined that

[timber chasm]

Tfw people pay $19 more when they could have bid $31

[rocky ether]

lol.

[vital thicket]

hey tbf

i was bidding on like a bunch of stuff for a bunch of bots

and didnt know if i was gonna be able to come back

and it was w credits

[neat valley]

@Builderb#0001 because why not

🤷‍♂️

[final sluice]

$19 is literally nothing

[neat valley]

shit I forgot to pay

[supple cove]

well so did i i thought but i didn't get the pay notice for the new CPM bidding system, tbh i'm kinda worried i just missed it xd

i'll see when the bot tags me

[neat valley]

i just payed

phew

[supple cove]

i'm probably too late

and ye notifications would rly aid in reminding xd

ah well, let's see if i get banned or not

[rocky ether]

i was going to pay

in 30 mins

cuz i was not at home.

but its ok

[violet sand]

The green ones are the ads that should get shown on the CPM tag at least once this week

(red ones failed to pay)

[supple cove]

interesting how the big boys hog all the impressions they can for cheap xd

very smart strategy

[hardy cloud]

oops wasn't sure how payment work for that and read somewhere about it going over budget and paying

[reef saffron]

how did someone fail in slot 2 when there was no way to pay?

it is the same bot but in slot 1. Its under Chillbot

[violet sand]

i just went off what #bids said

you were able to bid on both slots

which also means that in theory you could have both slots at once

[tender hinge]

Don't add get shown and then you get asked to pay after?

[reef saffron]

not this week

i think they wanted a credit system. That way they can guarantee that they get the money

[tender hinge]

Based on conversations I've seen if the tag gets more than estimated then the person who got shown without paying has to pay what they got based on the CPM they requested

So realistically if slot 2 was active ads would show and then the people pay after the fact based on whatever impressions they got (max being their budget ofc)

[reef saffron]

yea i think it will be a system like that in the future. This system would use credits. Aka you would need to have enough credits to cover the budget. Atm i could technically have bid with 5 CPM and 25000 and then just yeet after.

[distant sparrow]

Cpm ads have started or payments period is still going on?

[jagged basalt]

I mean

I already paid my bid

Despite the bot saying I didn't

[distant sparrow]

Ahh well think they will fix it.

[jagged basalt]

Transword should be green

I already paid

[violet sand]

I went off #bids which said you didnt

[jagged basalt]

Wack

I can send receipt in dms

[violet sand]

You should probably ask Veld if it actually went through

[jagged basalt]

I'd hope so

Considering $100 was taken out of my bank account

@violet sand should be good

[mellow finch]

Hm...

I don't see my bot on the levelling page even though I won and paid.

[hardy imp]

read #580510490074152961 again

[mellow finch]

Bruh.

[neat valley]

@mellow finch the pages are being updated in like

20 minutes

[mellow finch]

Ohhh, alright.

[severe elbow]

its my first time winning a bid, i really wanna see my bot promoted xDD

[mellow finch]

Me too.

[severe elbow]

ohhh xD

[neat valley]

it’ll be anywhere from like rn to an hour

[severe elbow]

oh noicee

[fathom dust]

just give time for caching

like 30 mins to remove the current ads and 30 mins to add the new ads

[neat valley]

mhm

can’t wait for my 30k impressions lmao

[severe elbow]

ohh damnn xD

im happy with 2k

^^"

[fathom dust]

hm

I dont even know how much is mine

Twitch Tag

I guess 50K

idk

[neat valley]

Oh I have utility

I wanted game too

But it got too high to do both

At least for this week

[fathom dust]

utility is good

utility says medium 3K impressions .-

and 224 clicks

twitch 6K impressions and 1K clicks

🙂

but it is also higher so

[fathom dust]

what tag did u bid?

-bots @severe elbow

[lean whale]

mastergox#3051

Bots

@harsh mural

[severe elbow]

i bid on valorant tag

[fathom dust]

nice one

low impressions but high clicks

your bot is "Razy", right?

[severe elbow]

ohh thats goood

[severe elbow]

yuup

[fathom dust]

nice

my dream is one day winning Pokémon Tag

but this goes so high

[severe elbow]

ohh yee

i went on valorant cuz all others were so high

[fathom dust]

yeah

[hardy imp]

top page does not look well

[violet sand]

yeah veld is fixing it rn

[low hinge]

fix should be in the deploy pipeline

[neat valley]

veld to the rescue

[mellow finch]

Our hero.

https://tenor.com/view/meme-our-now-gif-21036569

omg wtf is that gif

[neat valley]

lmao

[mellow finch]

😂

[hexed iron]

"hey i'm going to bid on anime tag this week"
auction bots: no. wrong.
https://i.imgur.com/AzW3Tz0.png

K GUESS ILL DIE LMAO https://i.imgur.com/dBoFbN8.gif

[neat valley]

@hexed iron lmao

[low hinge]

lmao

What are you guys' opinions on CPM so far?

little bit of a rocky start, but overall I expected worse from a complete rewrite of how auctions works :)

[hexed iron]

seems pretty good tbh

what a travesty, my anime server has been outbid on Valorant time to put some voter credit to good use https://i.imgur.com/zNQMS9R.png

[low hinge]

Ooo

those work now?

[hexed iron]

they've been working for a few months iirc

[low hinge]

oh

great

I wasn't sure

[bright falcon]

yep

[hexed iron]

since whenever i was first approved to use auctions

[low hinge]

I need to write a test for them :P

[hexed iron]

[bright falcon]

I always find it funny whenever working and the 30min reminder appears

[hexed iron]

actually on second thoughts i'm not going to pay $25 for a tag i don't need lmao

[neat valley]

@hexed iron kbbq guy is rich

Some of the tags aren't worth the amount he bidded

I was pissed all of my shit was out bid while i was sleeping

[hexed iron]

i agree, @primal lake stop spending money

[low hinge]

[hexed iron]

i tagged the wrong sensei

@neat valley *

[astral moat]

Now that I understand how it works, seems like a great idea and can’t wait for it to roll out to other tags

[severe elbow]

I like it tbh, is that gonna replace the old auctions system in all tags?

[hardy imp]

I like it but it needs a preventive measure against last second bids

[remote ember]

shizzz

my $5 bid on the roleplay tag just started a war

[candid lily]

last second bids aren't bad, the auction just gets extended

[hardy imp]

not on the cpm bidding they didnt

[neat valley]

[abstract yoke]

is there any way to see the list of bids for last weeks Top Page - Slot 1?

[distant sparrow]

@abstract yoke

[abstract yoke]

thanks

[south shore]

h

[fathom dust]

@pseudo cedar I need to DM you

important thing

but your dm is closed

[pseudo cedar]

this better be important

[hardy imp]

narrator: it was not 😄

[fathom dust]

nvm, I said it on Groovy's further assistance chat

🙂

but yeah, definitely important

[abstract yoke]

Installs from Top Slot 1 ad

[astral moat]

show it again in a week, that's the true test

[abstract yoke]

I exhausted all my impressions in less than 7 hours.

[astral moat]

Yes. But getting people to add your bot is easier than getting people to keep your bot

[abstract yoke]

it's flat now

[abstract yoke]

i see

[low hinge]

oo not bad

[abstract yoke]

this is what happens with no ads(circled in red)

[low hinge]

Im finally doing some improvements to the analytics page

it's gonna be pog

very minor tho

[astral moat]

Improvements meaning showing proper data? Or visual changes?

[abstract yoke]

i used to love playing pogs

[astral moat]

Also how do you plan on distinguishing between vote credits and non-expiring refund credits from new auction format?

[low hinge]

that has been implemented ever since we built credits

[astral moat]

Ok. Never experienced a refund so had no way of knowing.

[abstract yoke]

showing the cost per impression and cost per click would be pretty pog perhaps. if pog is good.

[fathom dust]

Hi guys

Does anyone have extra Auction Credits, or knows someone who has and wont use them?

I only get 15 Credits per month, and this is basically for 1st week bid, and I always wanted to go for better bids that are related with my bot, such as Game Tag, Pokémon Tag and Anime Tag

If this is not allowed just tell me and delete those messages

🦧

[astral moat]

there is no way to transfer credits

[fathom dust]

Not transfering, but bidding

Just like Oliver does

🙃

[sly pagoda]

Well Oliver does that because they're friends of each other? Nobody would really going around giving money away to random people

[violet sand]

unless you're called mr. beast

[fathom dust]

oh, I thought they were just random Devs he decided to give the credits

[sly pagoda]

No lol

[fathom dust]

.-.

[hexed iron]

lmao pain https://i.imgur.com/hzUSgiS.gif

[neat valley]

F

[frozen viper]

F

I dont really like how mee6 just cashdumps a lot of the spots :/ welp it is what it is.

[dense zephyr]

[lilac copper]

Welcome to what an auction is? Don’t like it, outbid them.

[low hinge]

hey guys

wanna see something hot?

[stray hedge]

a pic of you?

[low hinge]

no

[coral bramble]

#bids message

[low hinge]

?

[coral bramble]

What is usd cpm

[low hinge]

us dollar

cost per mille

means per 1000 impressions

[coral bramble]

O

Dope

[exotic helm]

wait a minute why is cpm cost per thousand? a mile is not a thousand of anything

[low hinge]

mille

it's latin

[exotic helm]

oh

I see im just blind

[silver pivot]

Damn we getting raided

[regal eagle]

#mod-logs 👀

[oak whale]

I can talk here pog

[silver pivot]

[exotic helm]

hi Xiuh

[dull ibex]

hi xiuh

[oak whale]

Hello

[candid lily]

lmao auctions do be chilling

hi Xiuh, miss you

[mighty cradle]

can we request features for luca? like the ability to use a range of case numbers to set a reason? its painful to see Aurel going thou all of them one by one

[regal eagle]

We have totally 100 banned people from raid uhm

[neat valley]

F

[neat valley]

[candid lily]

[remote ember]

cool update!

[low hinge]

some screenshots because nobody has data yet

[thin garnet]

swaggin

[remote ember]

meanwhile me getting outbid on everything

[neat valley]

Can i have that $1000

[low hinge]

also

[candid lily]

Shit that's looks cool

[south thistle]

imagine have 1k$ lol

[neat valley]

👉 👈

[south thistle]

going to deposit 37$ rq

[low hinge]

the pay page is fully aria-compliant, screenreader + keyboard only support

[south thistle]

so veld, now fastspring isn't required anymore?

[low hinge]

It's the only payment method we support right now

but I hope to scale this

[south thistle]

i mean, i can just add funds and it will pay automatically if i win a bid or something like that?

[low hinge]

Not automatically yet

But you can press "Pay all using credit" instead

[south thistle]

alr, still cool is ;)

when i became rich, i'll bid trillions on top.gg

[remote ember]

i think basically its so u can add balance to ur account before making any bids so u have a faster time when paying

[blissful axle]

hi

[low hinge]

https://streamable.com/vt34ze

[neat valley]

@south thistle can i have a couple trillion

[candid lily]

Just looks so pog

[thin garnet]

eth/btc payment gateway when

[low hinge]

wtf

[low hinge]

We're considering supporting crypto in the near future.

[neat valley]

If I go to my Past Redemption i should have collected $105.83 but my wallet is showing $30.21 is it supposed to be like this

I have never did an auction since I was collecting it

[violet sand]

vote credits expire after 31 days

[thin garnet]

les go veld

[neat valley]

Ahh I forgot about that

thx

[low hinge]

Btw

We're still hiring for our team

Please mail me if interested or if you know people interested

[violet sand]

havent you been looking for someone the past few months

[lilac copper]

xoxo thanks veld

any word on payments being auto-subtracted from your balance so we don't even need to be here on bid days

[low hinge]

Not yet, will happen soon

[lilac copper]

[low hinge]

The changes got quite big

Wanted to make sure all the stuff was in prod first

Now I can extend the payments framework

Some ideas I have:

• automatic payments
• multiple wallets to share (for e.g. teams)
• real-time payments over payment requests (e.g. you pay your amount in impressions automatically over the span of your campaign)

[fathom dust]

Nice update Veld

Thanks🦧

Also the Multiple Wallets is a Genius idea

[subtle plank]

what positions are you hiring for?

[neat valley]

^^

[abstract yoke]

Does mail mean DM?

[river raptor]

That would be awesome

[dense bramble]

Love it

[worldly cedar]

damn the new wallet update looks clean

But my wallet looks kinda empty anybody wants to deposit sum amount?

[low hinge]

Full time, frontend react and backend typescript/C#

I didn't mention it but I also updated the analyze page

[loud girder]

Me, when frontend CSS: cry

[rigid knoll]

[brisk horizon]

Veld balling https://i.imgur.com/7vT3MPA.png

[snow plank]

sheeeesh

[rocky ether]

wallets are so yes moment.

time to charge mom's credit card. 💳 🤚

[hard escarp]

anyone here made an economy or game bot or anything else that people can get 'addicted' to and wants to have a serious discussion about addiction to games/repetitive processes with me in dm?

[rocky ether]

@hard escarpu left mod team.

why...

[hard escarp]

i have some concerns about my own bot and how its played and the effect it has on players

@rocky ether i was dropped from mod team months ago, as i didnt have time to review bots

[rocky ether]

Add a custom server economy shop.

;-`)

[hard escarp]

hm, damn i thought i was in #general

[reef saffron]

@hard escarp i want to

I have had one user go as far as saying it's been harming him. So had to deal with that shit

[hard escarp]

ok

[tawdry kelp]

@reef saffron @hard escarp Please invite me to the discussion as well

[subtle plank]

I'll keep yall in mind

[warm marlin]

Hey, sorry if this is not allowed, but I am looking for a really good bot developer to be a developer in my server. I pay well. Dm for more info.

[candid lily]

-needdev

[lean whale]

You seem to be asking for something you don't have experience for or something that hasn't been done yet, but really need for your bot/server.
You can hire developers from Fiverr or Freelancer to code the things you need for your bot/server.

[edgy star]

[low hinge]

Hi Gamers

I updated the automation page to be in the same UI style as the new pay tab

[hardy imp]

am I missing something btw or is there no way to see all reviews of a bot ? Doesn't show "next page" or anything

[low hinge]

This is being launched with our beta design soon

[hardy imp]

gotcha

[low hinge]

stinky:

beautiful:

[hardy imp]

just a little bit too dark for my taste but its ok. More concerned for the rest of the design, idk I just really like the current style of the front page for example 😄

[neat valley]

i feel the same

i personally like this

but the colour and the fact that the replies aren't indented messes with me lol

that's my opinion tho

[hardy imp]

yea the avatar is a bit smaller to indicate its a reply but its far from clear enough imo

[rigid knoll]

the real question is, do they actually paginate like you'd expect instead of cutting off at like 20

[candid lily]

they will very likely

[low hinge]

ofcourse

[coral bramble]

do auctions end tmr?

also whats the deadline for payments?

[oak whale]

#580510490074152961

[neat valley]

@low hinge

[low hinge]

He got denied then

Just reapply but with all of the form filled in

[reef saffron]

do you even care about budget

[low hinge]

Most of the time the budget doesn't even correlate with what the person actually bids

[reef saffron]

i think i put 200 lmao

[exotic helm]

having the names below the profiles makes it look strange to me tbh

[astral moat]

Especially when it gets put onto a second line

And I agree the indentation for replies is nice on the current design

[low hinge]

agreed, we're changing this

[exotic helm]

pog

I mean

ok

[ripe veldt]

[edgy star]

that actually looks cool but the dark theme is too dark to me

it can be a little lighter

[candid lily]

Dark mode too dark

[edgy star]

[glossy flower]

Why does always compete for top spot default to on

[final sluice]

some people want to compete for top spot

it's a 50/50 choice, so they just have to pick one

[spring forum]

yah lol

[scenic orchid]

Do I really have to bid $87 for rust server tag?

[dense zephyr]

Don’t

That minimum bid requirement for rust tag is a bug

[glossy flower]

default to off would be nicer

so when someone puts their max bid immediately it doesn't mean you also pay the same price

i feel like most people would have expected it to default to off not on

[astral moat]

What are you talking about?

[glossy flower]

that the default for automations was bid for top spot rather than just being in top 2

[hardy imp]

why is there a minimum bid anyway ? Just let the market balance it out

[glossy flower]

i mean for most tags the minimum is basically $15 anyway because of the vote rewards

[hardy imp]

its just not necessary anymore imo

[glossy flower]

its just to create a barrier to entry

it also means that a tag can't sell for less than that

not that it ever would but it means that stuff like top page can't go for less than $200

[hardy imp]

it really never does so its just redundant

[violet spear]

when is the exact time that auctions finish

[astral moat]

#580510490074152961

unless it's delayed a bit like last week

[low hinge]

It shouldn't be

[hardy cloud]

Time to get the popcorn out?

[hexed iron]

https://i.imgur.com/8kikXTA.gif

[low hinge]

I can definitely make it less spammy

[scenic orchid]

That means I can't bid on rust right? @low hinge

[low hinge]

You can

[scenic orchid]

You mean bidding 87 USD?

[low hinge]

refresh your page

[scenic orchid]

Phew

[distant sparrow]

Is is possible to get server description updated if we win a spot in auction?

I added server prod for CPM but would would wanna edit it if in case we get impressions

[pseudo cedar]

alright the emails are too consistent now

how the heck do i turn them off

[brisk horizon]

Bid 50 grand then Veld will turn them off for you

[supple cove]

Outbid again on the top page slots

Rip xd

[tender hinge]

[supple cove]

At least no payment options so i assume the 200 and 500 caps arrived

[spring forum]

very pog champ i won my bid

[glossy flower]

wait can i get my bid moved to a product from the bot page

even tho ive already paid for it

[spring forum]

no

bids closed

[glossy flower]

rippity bipity

[grim wagon]

230 on moderation without a verified bot lol

[supple cove]

Next week I'll have to do 2 cpm minimum i guess xd

[glossy flower]

@low hinge i take it that is true and you can't move it from bot to product?

[supple cove]

High budget ppl be hogging all impressions under that amount xd

[south shore]

the cpm bids are way overpriced

[glossy flower]

actually i should have checked if it was on product or not first

oops

[grim wagon]

my bot was submitted on 4/23 and they're on like the 10-15th rn i think

[south shore]

compared to the others

[supple cove]

Depends highly on your budget

For us its expensive

For high budget it's a top page slot for cheap

[austere steppe]

Cant these anime servers tell that outbidding a crypto server would just make them pay more for no reason, cause beating them isn't easy

[glossy flower]

ok it just doesn't say if im bidding with product or bot on the actual automation

so i have no idea if ive won it for the bot or for the product

[reef saffron]

its not that expensive when its free

[supple cove]

Lol

[glossy flower]

it says if the tag is for the bot or not but not if what ive bid with was bot or product

[grim wagon]

[glossy flower]

[supple cove]

In your perspective that's true xd

[south shore]

eh, the top one is going for $15 for 1000 impressions, thats like 370 clicks for $15 or 4 cents a click or more

sry for ping

[glossy flower]

@candid lily I can't find out if ive won a bid for product or bot

[low hinge]

You gotta reach out if you wanna change your product

[supple cove]

Thats the top but it slowly iterates down

[austere steppe]

end it

[south shore]

tru

[supple cove]

Until it reaches the 500$ budget bids

And the rest is unlucky

[glossy flower]

can I have it changed from bot to the product version, I've no idea which one it's on

[frozen viper]

Damn man bidding gets hot quick

[glossy flower]

but I think it was bot

[supple cove]

@low hinge just wanna check.
How is the cpm bidding gonna develop in the future

[brisk horizon]

Spending so much on unverified bots is kinda pointless imo. I guess if you've been increased to the 250 limit it isn't as bad since you can still gain a lot but if you spend 230 on a bot that can have 100 servers and probably already has like 50 ish then you just don't gain as much as you could

[low hinge]

We're rolling out more this week

[grim wagon]

yh ill just let myself be outbidded

[supple cove]

So it's going to be the standard over time?

[hardy cloud]

When do we get asked to pay for top page slot 1 cpm

[neat valley]

i won two other tags

but they aren't coming up

[supple cove]

It estimates if your bot is gonna get impressions based on the bids placed higher than yours. If it thinks it won't reach it it won't ask you to pay

[brisk horizon]

Do the people who are spending hundreds on server advertisements make money from having a server? How do people make money from servers, I guess through like paid roles etc like patreon or something?

[abstract yoke]

have you noticed that the rounded corners are rounder for the wallet div than the open payments div

[spring forum]

maybe pay that first?

[hardy cloud]

Gotcha

[supple cove]

Patreon perks, merch etc.

[grim wagon]

i applied on the 23rd of last month, and in 2 days ill have been waiting for 3 weeks. my friend waited 3 weeks and 4 days but that can change for me. I expect my bot to get verified maybe next week or sometime this, if not patience is key lol

[abstract yoke]

that is bothersome

[supple cove]

Lol they should hire me for css styling xd

Or better yet

Install bootstrap and make ur life a bit easier

xd

[frozen viper]

What happens when someone fails to pay

[supple cove]

Lower limit or ban

[frozen viper]

Does the runner up get the spot?

[supple cove]

Yes

[frozen viper]

Ok

So don’t spend the money on other advertising until it’s confirmed

[abstract yoke]

it wont be confirmed until it's too late to pay

[supple cove]

Yeah the notifications are still rusty

[grim wagon]

my friend is saying if i dont get verified this week, next week for sure

🤞

[ripe veldt]

I have the same problem.

I guess it will come up when all biddings in other tags are done too?

[grim wagon]

im annoying moderation tag

it'll be a while lol

[harsh monolith]

@grim wagon why are you spending 400$ on a bot with 200 servers and a description that is barely 2 sentences long?

[grim wagon]

why not

[spring forum]

lol

[harsh monolith]

I don't think there is an explanation needed for that, it's very obvious.

[spring forum]

they arnt groupflows outbid lmfao

[grim wagon]

ill let groupflows outbid me

next time ill be verified lol

and then it will be my spot

[abstract yoke]

i forgot to bid this week.

whoops

[grim wagon]

u got 5s

[harsh monolith]

yeah but there is a difference between a well established bot with a decent website and a new bot with a 2 sentence description.

[grim wagon]

gg groupflows

[spring forum]

lol

gg

[harsh monolith]

Just seems reckless to me

[grim wagon]

well

i put 130 on fun tag

went from 21 servers to 230 first time

[spring forum]

bruh

[grim wagon]

so u tell me that

[harsh monolith]

Just be responsible my man

[abstract yoke]

are you tracking deletes?

[grim wagon]

we have a dev only channel where it sends the guild join/leave alert

and its status just says the number of guilds too

[violet sand]

Stats Man coming in for another week of CPM bidding

Slot 1 only: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/670753818966884383/841390291886014474/unknown.png
Slot 2: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/670753818966884383/841390960755867648/unknown.png
Both slots:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/670753818966884383/841396471345578034/unknown.png
(note that these graphs are comparing to the average of last week)

Slot 1 gained, Slot 2 lost
Overall 7% revenue increase

People that are expected to recieve impressions this week are highlighted in green here:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/670753818966884383/841392137451208765/unknown.png

[south thistle]

[trim pike]

ooo

[spring forum]

v nice

[harsh monolith]

thank you stats man, you're a true super hero

[spring forum]

vn nice

[honest marsh]

these are horrible stats

[spring forum]

Thanks pog stats man

[grim wagon]

sir i think you have the wrong message

[south thistle]

imagine watching your laptop screen for 1h, going to last 3 min of the auction, be happy because you have 43$ and the max bid is 38$, but the last 5 seconds you bid 43$ and after 1s comes someone bidding 255$ and another with bidding 250$

[dense zephyr]

[grim wagon]

daishiky ill paypal u 1k eur

[south thistle]

yes

next year maybe

[grim wagon]

yes

[honest marsh]

dude paypal me

[grim wagon]

[honest marsh]

i spend 30$ on meme tag and get 400-500 servers

each time

top page 3.2k servers
fun tag didnt try but i assume around 700-1.2k

[spring forum]

Im spending 17 on utility

I hope for some servers but who knows

[south thistle]

.__.

he really sent me 1 cent

for real.

[ripe veldt]

Good guy he is

[grim wagon]

hey @candid lily

[candid lily]

ID?

[grim wagon]

545881064074379294

@neat valley

[candid lily]

yup thanks

[grim wagon]

yw

[south thistle]

oh no

my nitro expire in 4 days

f, i just boosted this server 10min ago without seeing when my nitro runs out

nvm, another month

[violet spear]

oop

[edgy star]

[hexed iron]

thank u please do (it also seems i got a notification for every tag i’ve bid on, including ones where i was outbid multiple days ago)

[plush fulcrum]

I won too but it isn't showing up

[north spear]

What happens if you failed to pay?

[plush fulcrum]

I cant pay cuz it's not showing up

[hexed iron]

you die

[north spear]

💀

[plush fulcrum]

[neat valley]

yea idk it's weird

I ended up having it pop up, but only the next morning so I had to force myself to wake up at 6am in order to pay

[plush fulcrum]

[low hinge]

Read the CPM docs, we only make people pay if there's impressions estimated

We don't have the data for slot 2

[plush fulcrum]

O

When will the bot be posted

[low hinge]

same time as always

[reef saffron]

@low hinge so its free?

[low hinge]

no

you pay afterwards

please read the CPM doc

[reef saffron]

well, i guess that did not work then

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[low hinge]

no the ad is still running

[glad jay]

What happens when someone on Top Page failed to pay (like for the other bots who didn't reach the 9 potential people to receive impressions, will they move up and get asked to pay the estimated)?

[violet sand]

they will move up, if they recieve more than they originally paid, they will be asked to pay the difference next week (up to their original limit obviously)

[neat valley]

If I fail to pay, Do I get banned from the auctions or banned from the whole site and bot get deleted?

[violet sand]

depends on veld
but usually the worst you can get is just a auctions ban

[neat valley]

Oh

[violet sand]

iirc if its just a very small value he tends to give another chance

[neat valley]

Is it a permanent ban or there is way to appeal?

[violet sand]

well you can reapply for auctions

[neat valley]

Oh Ok

Ty!

[unkempt sigil]

if i payed the bid i won

how much is left for the bot to appear on the page?

[tender hinge]

20 minutes + 30-60mins for caching

[unkempt sigil]

already payed yesterday .-.

[unkempt sigil]

oooh today

thanks thanks

[spring forum]

3 mins ?

[spring forum]

Eyy my ad posted

[tulip wharf]

@low hinge Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't auctions be running by now?

[low hinge]

15 minutes

[tulip wharf]

Ah my bad

[reef saffron]

it was free

should maybe get fixed for this weeks auction

[low hinge]

oh i guess i'll have to make the payment requests myself

😔

[tender hinge]

Oof

[frozen viper]

auctions has auto-bid?

i never knew

oh wait

there is an automation tab

👨‍🦯

[storm anchor]

Helloo

[river gulch]

lol

[neat valley]

sounds like front page to me @pseudo cedar

[pseudo cedar]

@neat valley go for it 🤷

[proud dew]

Ello

[empty wolf]

how does the whole cpm vs max bid work

which is more important

[astral moat]

Both are equally important

First number is how much $ you are paying per 1k views

Second number is the total $ you are bidding

Second number is what you pay, second number divided by first number is potentially how many thousand views the ad will get if

[empty wolf]

but like

how does it work lol

[astral moat]

Each page gets a certain number of views each week by people like you and me

You’re bidding to have your ad up for a certain number of those views, once the views you pay for are reached, the next person in line has their ad shown

Top bid gets their ad shown first etc

[empty wolf]

okok

and is cpm = cost per thousand?

and does it go by views or clicks

[dense zephyr]

cost per mille so yeah the amount you're paying per thousand impressions

https://support.top.gg/hc/en-us/articles/1500008565702

[lilac copper]

I can't be the only one who always reads that as cost per MILE

[astral moat]

How many miles would an impression stretch if an impression could stretch miles?

https://tenor.com/view/geico-geico-commercial-geico-wood-chuck-wood-chuck-chucking-gif-16412432

[exotic helm]

I do every time

[modest mural]

hello mr non metric system

[neat valley]

Wel

Hərə chats goes

that happened

@candid lily hi gamer

[candid lily]

hey gamer

[neat valley]

Welp

chat is gone

[reef saffron]

not really, since you guys use metric / american stuff all over the application. Not really a lot of consistency

[neat valley]

Ah shit here we go again

auctions chat gamering

😎

Yes

[reef saffron]

top.gg king of not having consistency

[oak whale]

what is going on

[neat valley]

raid

@candid lily keep general locked, auction chat gamering 😎

[candid lily]

hey gamer

[neat valley]

hi gamer

hru

#general message no dont make religion with poker

[round lily]

at least this channel isn't locked

[neat valley]

@low hinge we could just talk in auctions chat lol

[brisk horizon]

Haha we can speak here

[neat valley]

yes

[midnight grail]

;p;

;p;

[lilac copper]

it's not my fault my country is stupid

[modest mural]

agreed

[rocky ether]

[exotic helm]

this

[neat valley]

honestly I feel that

[swift gyro]

Hmm

[hardy cloud]

lol

[hardy imp]

ads don't show at all on the beta design yet or am I missing them ?

[split rock]

[neat valley]

can this elongate guy stop

no1 wants to buy ur rugpull token

hes literally ID verified and advertising a rugpull token, mans gonna end up in jail 😭

[violet sand]

@neat valley they arent in this server btw

[neat valley]

Figured that out after I tried to ping them

still gonna rant to ab him

[violet sand]

also if there's something wrong about a auctions ad (like its illegal etc) then you should probably contact veld

[neat valley]

what's rugpull?

[neat valley]

he has a token/crypto but holds a large majority of the supply, when it reaches x price he’ll dump it

it’s illegal since he doesn’t disclose he owns those tokens

Some ik did it

He’s on the run now but got 300k outta it

Yikes

@clever shore Bid $1750 USD on Front Page - Top Voted - bot

you been bedding a lot...

@neat valley What is E-Girl Heaven?

[neat valley]

Server

How come you did Front Page - Top Voted - bot?

cuz it’s front page lol

for bots

But it’s main page

idk you can bid on the front bot page with a server.

I thought you only could do the server front page

which is was cheaper

rn

[oak whale]

you can use products to bid anything on any tag

[neat valley]

I got around 1k members/day with that

Testing to see how I’ll preform with a front page on top.gg

[neat valley]

GOD DAM

How do you have over 1k do

@neat valley Did your community server make $1750?

or you got money

[neat valley]

May I have link.

[neat valley]

Def not

It’s running at a loss since day one