#auctions-general
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Sure it was stupid and he should have been banned from auctions but, you shouldn’t ban him when you don’t ban anyone else
I agree, start banning anyone from the server who fake bids on purpose
I got 100 votes on my bot. Where can I redeem the Auction Credits?
forget, just found it
Discord is taking almost one month to verify my bot 😩
I'll wait until it gets verified to start biding, otherwise I'll lose my credits for nothing
@candid lily how can I use my Auction Credits on my friend's bot?
I saw some people do that
What role management is popping off, unless this is fake
Literally 12k impressions in the first day
Less then first day
@low hinge are these numbers real since it was supposed to have 16k imp and 2k clicks in the week. I'm just really confused lol. I haven't figured out if I'm getting the growth though.
Does it include last week's auction? It was a different tag tho
Also sorry for ping I regret doing that after I sent it
these are likely the numbers from last week
That's what I thought
because new ads arent even live yet
yes, it switches too early
weird
Clicks mean that this is how many people (without ad block) have clicked on your promoted card
No it's last week's probably
But it's just showing the wrong red
Tag
But that's also a lot more impressions and clicks than the old tag was supposed to get
whats * DST is not being honored by auctions, so keep that in mind.?
@candid lily
aka mr cool mod
DST is a timezone
ohh ok
DST is not a timezone 🤔
That's the only thing that comes up in my head when reading DST
Yeah, but it's not a timezone 👀
Am I right thinking they are going live in just over 15 minutes?(clocks going forward have confused me lol)
15 + about 30 min for cache to update everywhere
So you should see them update everywhere in 45 mins

it can take up to half an hour
Fake impressions?
It's a distributed cache
So whilst you're not seeing it yet
Other people might be
That'd be the last users impressions on that tag
hmmm
It'd still be in the process of wiping all the caches
ok
Yea it took mine a bit to show up
i suddenly have to pay places that i got outbid
Runner up if you are 3rd and either 1st or second didnt pay
i now pay'd. when i will get the spot?
so i lost money? 
@real abyss I can set up your product if there's space
Amazing
Did the front page - top voted spot really go for $10,000+?
it was rythm and some bread making bot
I dont see Mee6 getting 2nd on the live site.
nah front page went to rythm and mantaro
https://top.gg/list/top went to mee6 and another bot
Mee6 was second, did they fail to pay?
Rythm was at 10200 and mee6 was at 10000
which tag?
Yea mee6 just disappeared lol
i guess mee6 didn't decide to be the runner-up after kaj got removed from auctions
i guess Mantaro decided to runner-up instead
I'm not sure if runner-ups work too if the first runner-up doesn't want to
Dang I’m surprised Mee6 dipped and didn’t decide to take the runner-up bid

Probably Floriane giving up after kaj's bid 
but mee6 got the top voted bot one
not the front page one
;-;
ok
What's a decent ctr?
But mee6 was actually moved into the number 2 spot after the person was banned.
no clue what happened otherwise then 
Thing is that was after the auctions ended
Out of pure curiosity and that I've been stalking this chat for fun why where they banned?
@candid lily Sorry for pinging. I just wanted to know if even using Auction Credits I have to pay anything with real money
if you bid more than you have in auction credits, you have to pay with real money
If not, I don't?
no
For example: I have 15.21 dollars on Credits
then you can pay using your credits
And want to use 15
Ok
Auction Credits
What are they?
- If enough people vote for your bot or server per month, you have the ability to get credits that you can then use for auctions.
- Don’t know what auctions is? See here for how to apply.
- These auction credits can be used to pay for any winning bids you may make
- You CANNOT “withdraw” them for real money
How does the System Work?
- Each month, bot monthly votes reset
- If you get 100 votes on your bot in the month, you can redeem $15 worth of voting credits (can’t redeem till you actually get 101 votes)
- Any vote after 100 will be worth $1 per 1000 votes (or $.001 per 1 vote)
How Can I Redeem Them?
- At the end of the month, you will be eligible to redeem your credits (you redeem them on your bot or server's
Votespage on your bot’s dashboard). You will have 30 days to redeem them before they expire. - After you redeem them, you have 31 days to use them before they expire (so you can technically stack 2 months worth)
**How can I Use them to Pay? **
- When you pay for your winning bid, you have the option to use your credits
- If your winning bid cost is more than the amount of credits you have, make sure to apply the credits first and then pay the rest with the supported payment providers
A more simplified, less detailed version can be found in #580510490074152961 after you get auctions access and any questions can be asked in #auctions-general.
Thats good, cause atm I don't really have money to spend with it
Ok
Thanks
The only problem is that DISCORD NEVER VERIFIES MY BOT
They are taking more than 3 weeks
😐
Yea, look at the makers of mio
Millions of people are waiting for discord to hurry up to get mio in their servers ever since Eli died
18k to be exact
Only 75 people got mio so far
So ya
lmao 18 million
also eli is still active
Lmao
Photoshop skills may be 11/10 but aren’t the bottom 2 supposed to be the same in that meme format 
do you guys think I should bid for next week expecting that my bot gets verified before it?
because it's like 3 weeks, and probably finishing soon
🤔
If it's not verified while you have a spot it won't be worth it
So up to you to take the gamble
yeah, that's my fear
I personally wouldn't, just wait until it's verified and then go for a spot
my bot is already on 100 servers
yeah, I'll probably do that
but I have 15 dollars in auction credits
and they expire next week
Shrug
I have given up for the one spot I want
which was
Music tag
Now rythm, mee6 and groovy take it mmlol
they bid more than 100 dollar on that sh*t
yeah, I mean, 100 per time
ic ic
Yes 

it's the less laggy music bot
chip and groovy
this one, right? https://top.gg/bot/614109280508968980
Hi xig
Eh I have fine growth without auctions
youtube tag you can win for like 20 dollars
which you can easily get with auction credits
I just wait for the day that they forget about auctions once and then I take it
lmao
Happens rarely these days though with automation now
F
Issa fine
Let's hope so, I guess
yeah
🙏
my dream is bidding one day for Pokémon tag
but they make it so expensive
october 2020 it was like 30 dollars win
40 dollars
now they finish with 1000
¯_(ツ)_/¯
¯_(ツ)_/¯
what scares me the most is Oliver
he bids like almost 100K on a bot that it isn`t even his
lmao people started dueling for Crypto
CSGO Tag seems active
It's only Wednesday
why?
I mean, 90% of the bids are placed on Monday
@low hinge Is it possible to get an available spot (say meme page) for the remainder of this week advertising period for some reasonable price?
yea sure
what price though 
lmao
How much is that this week
then we can look at how much time is lost on the current week
Would make sense
Discord, not topgg
oof
definitely host a giveaway for this spot, that couldn't possibly go wrong 
yes
is this part even ever being used?
picking where we wont our ad?
no
the display part
It shows the same thing as the right bar
but it's taking up way more space
oh
what part?
I mean it looks nice but yeah it just shows whats on the right so its not really needed imo
the cards
oh, I think it makes it more beautiful and easier to check for example the medium viewers
in my opinion it should stay there
I guess it does make it easier for new ppl to know what their exactly bidding for. But once you know what your bidding for I dont think you would need it
oo spending limits
Pog updates

wait what's the default limit 
What is actions?
hi veld, thank you for the ping but i really dont appreciate this. many thanks
2500
Damn, can only spend $2,500.
Per bid
how will 2,5k solve anything
What is auctions
thanks for the update, good shit
when most people failt at 5
isn't front page over that regularly nowadays

yes
Interesting
stops the fake 10k bids lol

What is auctions
where can you see your limit?
And i dont want randoms to break the bidding limit
Wondering what my limit is
What is auctions
finally
What is auctions
this is to ensure that people don't loose us 10k like what happened last auction
@lilac copper you see the error here.
Past Campaigns should show how much the tag was purchased for 😉
ty
how much does it increase/decrease per success/fail
What is auctions
quick, bid 2500 on music and front page and you have a guaranteed 1st place next week
What is auctions
now you just create false security
What is auctions
people will still troll it

can you stop
What is auctions
this is what you'll get if you try to bid over your limit
idiot
-m 740633806569996358
🤐 Muted dragon_cai#7105 (@solemn yew)
Damn I was gonna. Do it
What's the default limit?
- @mental ridge
if i bid 2.5k it can still look legit even though im trolling
this is just stupid ngl
oh good it can be increased manually 
Sounds a bit sideways for someone like me that'll bid nothing most weeks then randomly high digits 😁
limit should be 20$ + credits and it will grow if you pay
dont ping me ever again
but it's still a step in the right direction
all or nothing 😩
why do you always have something negative to say
that's ridiculously low

"fix" its not a fix at all. Its just ima do something so they think i do something.
First day everyone will be contacting admins
If you don’t like the way the system works, feel feee to not use it
So... they implement a limit instead of no limit and you complain that the limit is not enough because people will still troll?
The limit on past campaigns should be way higher
Yes you can still troll and get banned
@karmic osprey yea, they got payment history so no. Just a few aggregations and you can up the limit for people that have stayed here for a while
dont u see the error now
Yes, I'll be adding a "load more" once i have an api route for this 
10k was fake, 100%. But now 2.5 k may look legit.. Therefore making people bid against it if they can
thats just worse
Do I get grandfathered into a higher bid limit?
I see someone complaining about a major step in the right direction for something that can't ACTUALLY be solved fully
yea
how do u propose fixing it @reef saffron
Oop just checked the clock I'm past my time with arguing with idiots online.
My bids have often exceeded 2.5k
sorry man maybe tomorrow
aw man I wanted a turn
if you do not see this get an education plz
@reef saffron let’s not be rude
I have an education thank you
k, but been there done that.
I like to think we are capable of a civil debate without resulting to insults here
oh and mel
does this mean that $24 is the limit for the Social Tag and it won't bid any more than that?
xD
Yep
@low hinge how do we check bidding limit? 
it's on the bid page
@rough wraith 2.5k
Unless you check that box
by default
oki cool tysm
I'm still setting increased bidding limits for large bidders @rough wraith
Oh, I see it now
but it shows once you log in

I said like 20$ + credits. If they want more they need to contact admins. Users that want to bid more at start needs to contact admins to verify their fundings. When you pay the limit goes up. Long time users get a limit higher since you can just run aggregations on the payments adn see that they can pay for it.
Feels a little high, but I respect it. 😤
still stops the random 10k bids
i think that would stop a lot of fake bidders. Who got the time to go trough a system like that ...
Yeah, I'd only expect 5 people to have limits that high. :^)
sounds like what theyve just built
2.5 k is the limit 
but you dont impose a tiny limit for a first release
Yeah, that slot does numbers on my budget. 🙏
my guy that's the default limit
yes you can, you just go through old data. Aka this would mostly affect new users
the screenshot literally said contact support if you need it increased past that
- the limit would be around 35 since credits
aka enough for many small tags for small bot devs
except the limit includes credits, it's a bidding limit
sure, i agree with you
but dont expect perfection 5 mins after the announcement
he wants $20 limit alex
yea i know, having a default at 2.5k is just making trolling more effective
ngl
wtf do u think, if you're randomly bidding 2.5k and not paying ur still getting beaned
20$ limit?
but you can't just up the important tags (front page, music) to 20k and not pay
I mean placing it at $20 = a lot more support tickets to protect a lot less money
it's like we want people to not spend money at auctions
If you are in a position to actually pay in the thousands, having a troll cut off at 2.5K is going to be way better than cutting them at 10k. That’s 7.5K saved from trolls
the limit totally makes sense
I was expecting like $750 or $1k, but $2.5k seems fine. 
dbl should be a charity 
wtf? If someone bids 2.5k that looks more legit than a 10k bid aka making people think that they need to outbid it
Winning bids are either $20-60, $200-500, or $2.5k+
a random 10k bid is like OH its fake ima chill
so... it's all whatever
when was music or front page top voted below 2.5k last weeks?
ofc it can be changed adn will change drastically if they pay
Realistically if you don’t like the system, don’t participate. No one is forcing you to put up with all this
I think we got front for 1.8k the other week? idr
hostile
yea, it doesn't affect the average bidder's life
there are other tags + this is price jump just happened this year tbh
It's to protect higher bidders
whatever happened to that tinder bid, was it fake
veld do u plan to tune this limit once u see the effects
might do it for new users
^and thats the point which top.gg tried to achieve
people who fail to pay get automatically their limit lowered
people to pay get a higher limit
it's all based on whether you pay or not
so, no more auction removals for not paying?
whats the benefit of keeping non paying users?
yes still auction removals if people don't pay
but normally I don't take action for small bids
runner up auctions a day later for tags no one paid for when
I'll sell them all for u
alright I'll take them all
i'll take them for 1$
i'll take them all for 1 credit 🙏
yes still auction removals if people don't pay
but normally I don't take action for small bids
So, the limit is set high and goes down if you don't pay... but if you bid anywhere near your limit you'd be removed from auctions anyway for not playing?

(because that's not a small bid anymore)
moment
think the point is obvious trolls will be removed, people who forgot to pay will be slightly penalized
Just poking at anything I find, I'm happy with the changes. 😂
If you don't pay a 1k bid yes

Anyway, all of this is why I expected a lower limit - I recognize how that'd be a handicap anyone trying for front page or music tag though. 
The spread of costs for different tags is insane, but I guess the clicks/views explains why. 
frontpage and music is over 2.5k now
Yeah, I spent 10k on frontpage on Monday. :^)
Pog
raven did you have credits or is that real money
it's rythm, it's real money
tru
o yea they have barely any votes ur right
was thinking since they were partnered
use the big brain method and give rewards for voting, rather than locking
does even rythm need votes? lmao, they got the word of mouth treatment
I used to have a token system for my bot but it didn't make sense. There's not really a way to give rewards with my bot
so I votelock stuff (but very little ofc)
More viewership is never a bad thing. 
How many servers do you normally get /week compared to a week with topgg ads?

I mean compared to the people seeing it in other servers
btw raven
make sure to update your top.gg server count once per week
for search v2 we have a slider for growth
Are you mentioning this because we do it too little or too much
me either
i know you guys do it for every number Ks
Yeah, we do that
hi jet :o
they do it every 100k iirc
Looks like it's updated rn
Sounds like a nice addition 👌🏻
doge how r ur rust bots going
https://img.marcorennmaus.de/xBgXjnKx considering they have a huge lead - i dont think it matters if they update it every 50k, 100k or 200k 
@low hinge yeah, currently rocking with an update every 100k. 
over a mill guilds
Which is uh... 3-4 times a week?
omega dtonks
idk
wrote almost 1k loc the past 2 days so im death rn
every 3 days it seems
In the redesign?
any data buffs in the chat can extrapolate growth numbers from that
https://img.marcorennmaus.de/eFr-2BI7
rythm dead confirmed /s
defo
rythm is gone

Wdum
Lol
Realy

Are the click counts accurate?
Nah they're made up /s
Yes they're accurate but afaik they dont include if someone in the past 4 weeks use a custom product instead of a bot/server
O nice so no more ban should one miss a payment
is this just the default number? https://img.editid.xyz/ofCIqyqk.png
or is this from any bids i've paid before
default
ok
seems quite high, if someone was just going to bid without paying, 2.5k is enough to probably not want others to want to bid on the tag
which is probably why if you fail to bid that much in the first day it'll decrease faster or they'll just be banned
e.e

max bid is only 2.5k for top voted bot page?
your max bid is 2.5k ^^
ohhhh
so you can bid over 2.5k?
how does it determine who can bid over 2.5k
nvm just read #557980216883150849
does that mean that if someone doesn't pay, they won't get banned? their limit will just go down?
it depends on how much they bid
veld stated that for smaller bids, their limit will go down
for larger bids, its still a removal from auctions
i dont know personally but yeah basically
i see ok thanks
what makes you eligible to have your spending limit raised?h
having a lot of servers?
failing to pay = spending limit lowered
paying in time = spending limit raised
automatically?
But if you fail to pay you get banned from auctions so why does it matter
If you decide to pay a very high amount and not pay it = yeet
if you miss paying a small amount, your spending limit just gets lowered
K
unless you're a repeat-offender of not paying bids, then you get yeeted too
K
Mee6 should get kicked lol
Out of the top.gg website
Cuz
The bot u have to pay for know
Like
To use mee6 you have to pay the devs
So i say just ban mee6 from top.gg
I remmber when mee6 was useful
You dont have to pay to use mee6
You can pay for some extra features
but certain parts of the bot are free
what makes you think that?
lol
some ppl get banned from topgg
...
it all really depends on the circumstances
I vote to kick mee6 💪
imagine liking your own discord message
I had forgotten the new update existed and I had thought this was the min bid and was going to drop bidding in 0.2 seconds
Lmao
if you bid on 3 tags and u pay 2 will that increase or decrease ur limit?
k
Hello
k
Hey is the auction page broken ?
@cerulean holly @golden zenith try refreshing the page
if you haven't done so, issue was resolved
nevermind it wasn't
pensive
lol
read above
Oh, good to know. I was almost worried
Auctions end when
1 day ig
Are you guys having issues bidding?
such as?
hewo
Why do I need to reapply to advertisting?
You... dont?
There was an auth issue recently but veld fixed it #557980216883150849
@indigo trench go to https://auctions.top.gg/ directly for now
Thank you but why can't you enter via "Advertising" on top.gg?
it's something im fixing now
You'll be able to pay at https://auctions.top.gg/pay
FUCK its noon now I forgot
It's in an hour 
320 for games tag?
bet silver help doesn't pay up
tell you what I'm not going to try and out bid it, there's lessons to be learned.

Last 15 mins
im being hopeful for winning the levelling tag
because i know mee6 is gonna drop 200 at 5 to 8
Today auctions is awfully quiet
yeah
Half the people probably can’t access it 
Ope
You might've jinxed it because Rythm is now here as well 
hope it stays that way
LMAO
🍿
ez
Lol watching the automations between mee6, groovy and rhythm is fun
http://i.kitchengun.solutions/FluffyMelodicWideAlex.png I love how that is literally just a battle of which automation runs quicker
its not based on speed
its actually more just coincidence
since the automations are processed in a particular order
serially
ohhh
Melonpan is back?
to prevent sniping
sniping is where someone waits til the last 2-3 seconds and then bids higher
sniping is great 
@low hinge I won 3 tags and I'm only able to pay 1 wha, it doesn't show the others
yes that's the point pepega, auctions that allow sniping are fun bc it's an actual bid war not just taking turns extending the time for $2 lmao

yea this is dumb
http://i.kitchengun.solutions/SparklingBelovedAgitatedAlex.png oh shit they changed it
I'm just getting second place, ask whoever else is bidding
nah that's normal
ive always been able to pay right after ive won a tag
same lol
🤷
mine isnt showing up either
and two of my tags ended 10 minutes ago
see!
he is not confirming what you said
yes its what i mean
http://i.kitchengun.solutions/MediumQuestionablePowerfulAlex.png fuck i almost dont wanna bid
if you get an email telling you that you won and you cant pay rn it's just a bug
that's what I meant to say
sorry 😞
why you do this
i got railed by dank memer and co on the other tags 😎
are analytics showing for you guys?
😂
none of mine do 😦
auctions should stop extending time after a certain # of minutes passes
or require higher $ increments
they do
it does
2 hours
thats... a bit long
its annoyingly long
15 min? 30 min?
auctions do be like ludwig subathon
LMAO
ok i like the $2500 limit
thats reasonable for someone to start sniping, though
wdym?
the whole point of the extensions is to prevent sniping, yeah?
ye
so if someone just bumped you by 1 dollar for like 15 min
tehy can just snipe you again
i mean
more like to let people keep bidding up more money :)
a min bid increment would def help though
yes
please
but it'd be unfair
Eh
would it?
why dont groovy mee6 and rythm make a schedule of like who gets what tags when
ez save moonies
it should be a different value for specific tags something like 5% - 10% of the highest bit
What would the minimum be? 🤔
$5
oh i see, this is why veld doesnt like me
when literally anyone says "unfair" in the context of an auction I can't take them seriously
5% of the previous bid? 
5% of the max bid
your bot is too big and its unfair, please hand it over
thanks
less exposure 
its worth spending it
wondering, right like do the bids make the money back right in the week, or just make money back in terms of exposure?
or like from direct links?
exposure is money
What’s the over/under on how many more people ask about not being able to pay?
its hard to quantify
inb4 karens paying in exposure to all of her 20 followers on facebook

yeah I will bid 10k on music tag veld, is it fine if i pay you back in exposure 
I mean you joke, but that's what the voting credits are lol
my favourite type of exposure is where you let more light in
i mean people who click on your bot for the first time wont buy premium
it just doesnt make sense
thats not true
yeah, but those people have friends
my favorite kind of exposure is the public indecent kind 😈
and their friends invite bots to their servers
and their friends friends invite bots to their servers
lmao
also wondering, this week im bidding with a product
that sends users to bot add page
I have regularly people buying premium before they even tested the bot properly
u have it to groovy.bot?
no
i have it go straight to the oauth screen
less things for users to mess up
@low hinge i won an auction but cannot pay
@pseudo cedar do you have to pay veld for that?
velds aware 😊
I figure it works with music bots + bot that are extremely known like yours
or is it something you can do on the bot page
@honest marsh how much is it?
pay for what
big brain
53$ meme page but i have 15$ credits
you can link whatever you want 
o
i mean why did you then?
wym
make a product
and in the link
put oath page
in create
Create tab
proucts also good
oh
bc u csn bid on server tags
nik wats ur opinion on server tags also>
How do so many people manage to develop without the ability to read. Somebody teach me these ways.
known issue
OHHHH
yes, veld is aware, hes fixing it
aight
yeah same
they suck for bots
oh
i already payed hundreds of $$ in advertisment

u think i cannot pay 53-15
they suck for bots
xD
They suck for bots, makes sense. Now I know how they got them
wait bids ended 26 minutes ago? i thought it was- oh wait time zones and daylight savings, never mind lol
I've had fairly good ROI on server tags, especially if in my direct niche
But for me its all about the retention, my server doesn't make a dime, its all expenditure
yeah thats why i held off from bidding on server tags, i have no idea how they perform
Nah those server click rates are way off, not sure why
ah gotcha
@pseudo cedar so in your opinion bids are totally worth it?
why would i pay for something that isnt worth it
👀
flex
uhhh but when u started with bids?
you started big or like went up?
like did you bid with the "this is a investment" mindset or the "eh i got extra money why not" mindset?
if your bot is good, its worth. If its shit, it might still be worth in some cases
could be because people go to server list for servers and bot list for bots
mee6 in the corner: 
alr cya guys
gl with yall's ads
except the guys who outbid me, to you i wish bad luck xD jkjk
perhaps, but that CTR looks ludicrously low
what's pogging over here
atveld 

don't upload big images?
gosh sam how could you be so ridiculous
wdym
which page
yeah i thought so haha
Veld failed to pay 
Where to pay??
just click the "pay using credits" button
Veld is a cutie 
it takes some time to update the page that youve paid
known issue
why are there tags you can't bid for?
becuase some tags are simply not included in auctions, this will change in the near future

that failed to pay notice is new
not really
then i'm stupid
i don't remember it being there the first time i participated in auctions tho...
lol kk
Congrats
Thx!🦧
25 minutes till everyone freaks about ads not being live 
lol
did no one win the gaming tag last week?
It's still going up
cant bid on that tag yet
gaming tag is not available for bids yet, only the "Game" tag is available
ah, tricky.
https://top.gg/tag/game
=/=
https://top.gg/tag/gaming
Are the new spots up yet?
not yet
I had the same tag last week and my new analytics are including the old ones
And my last week's one isn't in the past campaigns
As well as all my other old bids
@low hinge is something up or.. why am i not seeing the developer tag for my server?
It may still be in the process of changing the ads
Lol gl
it's still syncing the historical stuff
@digital moat your automations are bidding on role management. You didn't pay for this week's so I'm letting you know just in case it's a mistake
I failed to pay because I did not receive my emails
I was not aware I won
My automations are supposed to be enabled :p
Ah ok
If you check for emails can’t you just check the site once?
Well I bid 3 days before this one ended and still won and if I haven't l hadn't gotten the email I wouldn't have checked since I bid so low
Yeah, I dont usually hang around on auctions for no reason. I totally missed the auctions end. If I'd have received my emails which I get via push notification on my phone, then I'd have noticed that I have won and then I'd have paid



















