auctions-general

[dull junco]

how tho

[kind helm]

oh they gunna

lol

[dull junco]

they do

they do it last minute

every week

[supple cove]

Every time

Unless u have a tremendously large budget try some lesser sought after tags first

[finite nova]

I came in 2nd behind Mee6 last time I bid

[supple cove]

Nice

[dull junco]

@finite nova what small server will need a global ban bot when there will be literally no overlap. and any big server already has substantial antiraid so they dont need it either

[flat relic]

@honest marsh you ALWAYS outbid me lol

[kind helm]

seconds not bad

[finite nova]

on the same spot xD

[dull junco]

just how i see it

[finite nova]

The hundreds of servers already using it 🙄

[dull junco]

as you bought ads on topgg?

im not tryna shit on ur bot

i just want to understand it

[normal flame]

auctions are so expensive this week i swear

[supple cove]

Well the idea behind his bot is great but as previously mentioned it needs a bigger community to become effective

[dull junco]

but bigger communities have antiraid

which is why i am confused

[supple cove]

Alongside having altdentifier and watchdog as competition

[finite nova]

I doubt I would be spending a few thousand on top.gg ads if it wasn't going to be used

[flat relic]

Lest say, if you start with 0 servers and the bot is verified (so no limits) how many servers would you gain with top voted and trending new?

[kind helm]

a few thousand

:l

[finite nova]

^

[kind helm]

mee6 is hereeee

[dull junco]

u cant just assume it will be used cus u think it will

[finite nova]

lol

[dull junco]

im asking a serious question

[finite nova]

Time to watch the bids

[nimble pelican]

Huh mee6 got among us server?

[supple cove]

Potentially thousands

[kind helm]

and there we go

[nimble pelican]

[kind helm]

its going insane

[finite nova]

they get everything

[flat relic]

cool haha

[dull junco]

i run a few larger communities and I am completely willing to add the bot to my server but i dont get it

[supple cove]

Mee6 has awoken

[kind helm]

@finite nova u probot?

[flat relic]

mee6 oh no

[supple cove]

So has groovy

[kind helm]

groovy is here too

[finite nova]

xD

[flat relic]

mee6 and groovy always destroy my bids :C

[finite nova]

atDramex, may the best bot win

[supple cove]

Just save a few months and then try again xd

[flat relic]

my parents don't let me spend money

[dull junco]

then make ur own money

e z

[flat relic]

i do

[kind helm]

y r u bidding

:l

[supple cove]

It's a massacre out there xd

[finite nova]

lol

[dull junco]

every week is

[kind helm]

lmaoo

[flat relic]

yes with votes

[kind helm]

they got some cashee

[amber ledge]

Lol

[finite nova]

🤣 the automations are lagging now

[dull junco]

i have about 40k bans across all servers

lmao

[nimble pelican]

hm

[kind helm]

none of my servers have more members than 150

[supple cove]

Someone took my spot so i took another one xd

[dull junco]

among us is still this expensive?

i thought the tag was dying

[supple cove]

Some of mine are over a thousand

[kind helm]

:l

[reef saffron]

i get around 100+ members / day

[kind helm]

brUh

how

[neat valley]

something like the top page how many members would you get if you start from 0

[reef saffron]

@kind helm through my bot

[finite nova]

75 xD

[kind helm]

:l

[finite nova]

Cause you would get verified locked

[kind helm]

is ur bot a j4j

[dull junco]

dat is pretty good

[reef saffron]

yea grew like 7k members in 2 months

[steep scaffold]

Y'all cute

[reef saffron]

no ads

[steep scaffold]

[dull junco]

mine depends ont he server

[supple cove]

Damn i have to fight now for spots xd

[dull junco]

i think it is 500, 3k, and 400 a day

or smthn

[reef saffron]

the problem with server ads is that you get raiders and people that just want to cause harm

the only time i got raided i had a server tag

[kind helm]

great

[reef saffron]

the day after i got veld to cancel it

since it was a huge waste

[kind helm]

i got a rly good antiraid

[reef saffron]

rather get more nice members

[kind helm]

im goood

[reef saffron]

it does not stop dm ads

[kind helm]

ooh

[neat valley]

buying tags get you raided

[kind helm]

damn

[dull junco]

^

[reef saffron]

@neat valley for servers yea

[dull junco]

if it is new accs u can get it stopped

[reef saffron]

but if you do bot then inv to server its good

[kind helm]

i got anti alt

[supple cove]

I lost one valuable spot xd

[kind helm]

and antispam

[dull junco]

same

[reef saffron]

since then you only get the users you want

[supple cove]

Rip

[dull junco]

i have a bot that protects against new members or ppl w no pf

pfp

[reef saffron]

the problem is that it does not protect against dm raids etc

[kind helm]

^

[dull junco]

well idk what accs are dm raiding ur server that do not have no pfps or are new accs

lol

[kind helm]

ima start verifying all new members

[reef saffron]

they are smarter than that lmao, most of them got hot girls

[kind helm]

uh-

[dull junco]

those r usually new accs

and ik what u r talkin ab

lol

[reef saffron]

i got raided by 3 months old accounts lmao

[supple cove]

Mee6 about to reach 1k

[finite nova]

welp I am out xD

[kind helm]

imagine being so dedicated

that u create alts 3 months in advance

[supple cove]

You can still secure some lower budget tags xd

[reef saffron]

yup

and then getting stopped so fast lmao

[finite nova]

not worth it xD

I won utility one week and got 0 servers out of it

[dull junco]

yay we r bidding for funsies

sinful stop bidding

:(

[white cove]

How many members does ur server have

[reef saffron]

8k

[dull junco]

mine has 50000000000000000k

mayb we r gonna win w 320

[supple cove]

Ye mrbeasts server doesn't have that much

[steep scaffold]

OMGG

[dull junco]

that would be sick

[steep scaffold]

🥰

@white cove HI

[white cove]

LOOOL

[supple cove]

Wat

[neat valley]

are bidding for server tag auctions even worth it

[reef saffron]

lmao everyone that goes into my server and does something weird gets banned in mr beast etc

[supple cove]

Idk

[reef saffron]

i love just sending them a message with ids etc

[supple cove]

First auction this weel

[reef saffron]

[tulip wharf]

I have 212

And 60% retention

[kind helm]

its not endninngig

[tulip wharf]

Best stats ever!

[white cove]

shitt

ii got 100

[tulip wharf]

ye cus when someone bids it goes on for 2 more mins each time

[kind helm]

dev go away lol

[white cove]

100% retentionn

[tulip wharf]

😏

[reef saffron]

i got about 20% retention but with 250+ joining each day its not easy

[kind helm]

bruh its never gunna end?

[finite nova]

xD

[tulip wharf]

someone will stop soon

[kind helm]

oh so its gunna go up to hundreds

great

[finite nova]

lol

[dull junco]

oh fax?

:)

[dull junco]

yeah 250 is so much

omg

that is like

a bajillion

[neat valley]

how tf you be advertising

[reef saffron]

yea ik lmao

[dull junco]

i have never even gotten 250 members in a server

[white cove]

same

i'm trying to get 500

u think it possible

[reef saffron]

rly??

[dull junco]

yes i didnt know it was possible

omg

holy shit

[tulip wharf]

ok @kind helm i'm stopping now

you win

lmao

[finite nova]

My anxiety rn: 📈

[kind helm]

SICK

DUDE

[dull junco]

@neat valley u good bruv?

[kind helm]

DEV

GG

[hardy imp]

wow I actually won front page did the big bots fall asleep

[supple cove]

7 tags secured =D

[kind helm]

THATS MORE THAN I WANTED TO SPEND

[supple cove]

Now for payment

[reef saffron]

where do these servers get this money from lmao

[finite nova]

lol

[kind helm]

ugh

[tulip wharf]

sorrryyy

[kind helm]

lol

[tulip wharf]

i really wanted it but

[reef saffron]

who the fucks donates to a free discord server

[tulip wharf]

theres always next week

[dull junco]

idk i have never seen money before

[kind helm]

i was gunna stop rly soon

[reef saffron]

ima get impostor 3% more

[finite nova]

$517 USD

[kind helm]

i was so dedicated to beating a 60k server

sheeesh

i got issuesss

[reef saffron]

im so sad because they fixed the bug that made it so i could max everyones budged on autobidding

[dull junco]

xkijux has like the biggest server ever

[reef saffron]

no lmao

its small

[dull junco]

yes omg

u get so many joins

[reef saffron]

true but not everyone stays

[tulip wharf]

uh i payed for my auction win but like

i didnt get a confirmation

is there some way to make sure i did it or

[kind helm]

what tag u win

[tulip wharf]

economy

[supple cove]

my tags have been paid

[kind helm]

oh yea i saw u outbid me for that

🙄

[dull junco]

for among us tag bro

what is discord

[kind helm]

lol

bruh

[royal timber]

damn

deep pockets sheesh

[supple cove]

how did they get this money

[oak whale]

being adults... having a job...

etc

[royal timber]

i assume donations?

[nimble pelican]

paid promos too

[oak whale]

or donations too

[supple cove]

way to point out the obvious

[royal timber]

or otherwise monetized

[supple cove]

i meant donations xd

[nimble pelican]

some servers charge like 100$ week for a dm welcome

[supple cove]

wat

[nimble pelican]

yup

[neat valley]

meanwhile me sad about 1$

[supple cove]

bruh

[reef saffron]

whats that?

im confused

[royal timber]

tf?

[supple cove]

i lost about 30€ for 7 smaller tags

[neat valley]

third world be like

[royal timber]

like someone personally dms you welcome every time?

[supple cove]

i'm pretty happy with the results

[nimble pelican]

basically when u join a server u get dmed a by a bot to join a server

and servers pay the server to get put on the dm welcome

[reef saffron]

ah ok

[dull junco]

lol

we charge $40 a day

[nimble pelican]

then people pay for @/everyone pings for promos too

[dull junco]

[flat relic]

i did lose every bid

[reef saffron]

@dull junco how many joins?

[kind helm]

how long till it shows

[nimble pelican]

40$ a day

[dull junco]

lmao

[supple cove]

damn

[dull junco]

lot of monay

[nimble pelican]

they get a lot tbh

[kind helm]

wait do i gotta pay daily :l

[reef saffron]

How many joins do you get jxsh?

[nimble pelican]

dm welcomes are very good

[dull junco]

we get 3k+ joins a day

[supple cove]

me with an at most 15$ patreon tier for perks and supporting my bot xd

[dull junco]

to our server

[flat relic]

pff

[reef saffron]

nice

[neat valley]

what even are dm welcomes

[dull junco]

very nice

[flat relic]

gg :)

[kind helm]

how long till my server shows on the tag

[nimble pelican]

basically when u join a server u get dmed a by a bot to join a server

[tulip wharf]

😦

[reef saffron]

@kind helm 24 hours

[neat valley]

me with just "pls donate to bitcoin" command and got 0 btc in last 3 months

[kind helm]

k

[supple cove]

got 5$ in the last month xd

[neat valley]

why you get paid for that

[flat relic]

One day i will grow my bot :)

[neat valley]

how big is your bot

[kind helm]

i only pay once right

[nimble pelican]

BC it gets servers members

[supple cove]

114 servers atm

[flat relic]

It just is overkill with the prices big bots bid hahah

[neat valley]

whaa

my bot is in 1200 servers

maybe i should open patreon

[supple cove]

damn nice bro

[wanton jewel]

Hi

[supple cove]

you probably should xd

[neat valley]

idk about perks it would have

it's science bot

with math commands and stuff

[supple cove]

my perks are mostly in the support server

[nimble pelican]

ye there's 1 server where you can spend 150$ a month and you get anywhere from 1000-5000 joins in a month from the dm welcome 🤥

[flat relic]

I can open a donation system but no one is going to donate i think, maybe offering better premuim

[flat relic]

pfff

[supple cove]

i'm working on a main feature i have planned for a year now so i can add some decent perks xd

[neat valley]

where?

[blissful torrent]

My bot is in 6000 servers, I have 12 customers for my premium version, Patreon works good you should open a page

[neat valley]

will i get 15$ for free every month if i hit 200 votes?

[nimble pelican]

crumb

[neat valley]

oh yea

[neat valley]

nice

[supple cove]

that would cut my costs in half if that were true

sadly i never reached 100 votes xd

45 was the record i think

[neat valley]

i really don't know about premium version though, it's like not something made to be very built in discord but still very unique

[knotty palm]

isn't it 100 votes for 15$

[neat valley]

oh

then ez

[blissful torrent]

What is your bot about?

[neat valley]

i get like 100 votes per 10 days

[supple cove]

neat

[nimble pelican]

101 votes 15$ credit

[neat valley]

http://utix.dimden.dev/

[blissful torrent]

it is

[nimble pelican]

u sadly need 101 not 100 😭

[royal timber]

why isnt there captcha on votes yet?

[knotty palm]

there is

[royal timber]

there are some bots where the vote count is... a little sus

oh there is?

[supple cove]

nice webpage

[knotty palm]

sometimes when you vote on incognito tabs

[royal timber]

ah nice

[dull junco]

joe

[nimble pelican]

mama

[royal timber]

a recaptcha on all votes wouldnt hurt though right

[blissful torrent]

Bro that's probably the coolest bot I've ever seen on discord hahaha

[neat valley]

it has lots of commands ngl

[blissful torrent]

How much time did it take

[slow laurel]

do you get $15 for the first 100 votes each month or just once?

[neat valley]

it was made in 2018, and slowly was adding more commands

[blissful torrent]

Each month for the first 100 votes

[blissful torrent]

How do you only have 1.3K servers

[slow laurel]

oh that's neat then

[knotty palm]

it's each month

[neat valley]

no idea 😔

[blissful torrent]

Gonna add it to my server

[neat valley]

it's hard to get servers when you can't pay for ads bc third world and poor

[royal timber]

same, your bot seems hella cool

maybe add a vote link at the bottom of your help page?

[neat valley]

already has at top

[royal timber]

in the bot command i mean

[neat valley]

oh

maybe

i get most of votes from my server

idk if it'll do anything

ppl are lazy

[royal timber]

i think it will

[neat valley]

and don't want to support

[reef saffron]

pro tip

[royal timber]

you could also incentivize votes by locking features but i hate doing that

[reef saffron]

get vote streaks

[blissful torrent]

Add Vote Tracker

[reef saffron]

i remember i started really early

[royal timber]

vote leaderboard? haha

[reef saffron]

1 week after everyoen had it

[blissful torrent]

Vote tracker grants reward roles to voters, I went from like 150 votes per month to about 600

[neat valley]

wtf

what's vote tracker

[royal timber]

i give my users small rewards for votes, its worked wonders

[neat valley]

oh it's about server

[blissful torrent]

It's connected via webhook to DBL

[neat valley]

i already have rewards for voting

i made it in my server special bot

[blissful torrent]

You can set up voting for bots as well

[finite nova]

Welp, it was nice talking to y'all. See ya in 3-6 months when I return for another ad

[kind helm]

lol

[neat valley]

i already did

[blissful torrent]

Oh ok

[neat valley]

it gives server currency

for voting

[nimble pelican]

nitro giveaway for voting in servers is great too if ur server is a good size

[neat valley]

too poor to buy nitro

[royal timber]

thats smart

[neat valley]

nitro i have rn is gifted

[blissful torrent]

Yeah

[nimble pelican]

just even 5$ nitro from server funds or bot funds anything

lemme see

[blissful torrent]

@neat valley does your bot use a website

For some commands

[neat valley]

API?

[blissful torrent]

Cause mine does and I run ads, that makes quite a lot of money

You could like create a web tool for some commands

And use AdSense

[karmic osprey]

I've been thinking of using my dashboard for ads

[nimble pelican]

we've 987 votes and around 80-100+ votes everyday bc people keep voting for a chance to win 1 5$ nitro and pinged everyone at the start of the month

[wanton jewel]

@blissful torrent u mean dashboard?

[blissful torrent]

Not necessarily, can be any page your bot uses. Mine is a verification bot so every joining members has to see the ads

[neat valley]

my current website gets 120 views per month

[royal timber]

i personally feel like the effort into building a dashboard isnt worth the adsense revenue

since more and more people have adblock anyways

and dashboard wouldnt really make sense for my bot anyways lol

[nimble pelican]

don't some websites make u turn off and block or smth

[wanton jewel]

I use adblock too

[neat valley]

i'll think of making patreon but i doubt anyone will get it

only 1k servers

[royal timber]

you should make it

takes <10 min and why not

[blissful torrent]

I have 12 people subscribed to my Patreon and only 6k servers

go for it

[royal timber]

even if 1% of users look at it it'll be worth

[nimble pelican]

patreon fees are so expensive 😩

[blissful torrent]

Yeah

[wanton jewel]

You won't know without trying

[royal timber]

you could use the discord donation bot too

i think its run by the same people who run topgg

[blissful torrent]

But I think Patreon is more user friendly than FastSpring for ex

[royal timber]

no fees supposedly

[neat valley]

if i'll get patreon i'll have to limit some features to make premium

[nimble pelican]

ye no fees for that

linked to paypal

or even a donations channel with a PayPal link in ur bot support etc

[neat valley]

and also the thing is paypal is not supported in my country, but ig i can ask my best friend to get and then send money

[nimble pelican]

oh rip

[neat valley]

i wish i wasn't born here

pain

[nimble pelican]

😭

[wanton jewel]

In my country paypal has limited features

[neat valley]

same

i only can send but not receive

or store

which makes it basically useless

[royal timber]

maybe consider crypto donations?

[neat valley]

i already have that

[nimble pelican]

I had to get a new debit card to withdraw money into my bank with PayPal

[royal timber]

ah nice

[neat valley]

but me when literally no donations in last 3 months

[royal timber]

crypto is just annoying as hell to conver to and from

[wanton jewel]

Mine is opposite. I can only receive can't send

[red vale]

so we have 12 hours to pay?

[nimble pelican]

Yes

[red vale]

ok cool

[nimble pelican]

12 hours from 7pm utc

[neat valley]

funny thing is that here it's very popular and easy to convert

you can get your money without any documents in few minutes

[nimble pelican]

7 am UTC tomorrow no payment

[neat valley]

the guys that bid 1800 are gone lol

[royal timber]

interesting

[red vale]

i have to transfer money between some of my banks cuz my payroll debit card is getting rejected for some reason

[royal timber]

here in my country we have KYC till tomorrow...

[neat valley]

the guy that bid $1800 left negative review on Utix lol

[royal timber]

bruh

[neat valley]

now banned, karma

[royal timber]

pog

[nimble pelican]

oh those ppl

[neat valley]

https://edge.dimden.dev/7c75c6465c.png

[blissful torrent]

Yeah it's my server haha

My bot's support server actually

[nimble pelican]

Nice

[amber meteor]

that arrow is satisfying

[royal timber]

whats the average yall get for daily server adds?

for bots

i get anywhere from 10-20 and i have no idea if thats high or low

[spice forge]

what ads did u buy

[royal timber]

not for ads, just regular

but i did get an ad this time

[blissful torrent]

About 100

[royal timber]

jeez

thats impressive

[blissful torrent]

Not that much really

I only have 6K servers I don't think that's very high haha

[neat valley]

i get like uh 5 servers

per day

[royal timber]

well thats way higher than me lmao

ok same dimden

[neat valley]

[blissful torrent]

I can tell you precisely maybe 100 is an overestimate

lemme check on datadog

[neat valley]

this is first time i'm getting auction so maybe finally some boost in server gain

i got 1k in like half year

[blissful torrent]

Yeah about 100

[royal timber]

incredible

do you do auctions a lot?

[spice forge]

ah i see

[blissful torrent]

I don't do auctions for now

I will start next week

I bid a bit this week to see if I could win

[royal timber]

ah gotcha

[blissful torrent]

But I couldn't

[royal timber]

yeah i just do it ~1ce per month to spend that ad credit

[blissful torrent]

My budget was $150, not enough for the moderation tag apparently

[neat valley]

how you get so many servers without auctions

[karmic osprey]

moderation is very high

I got most of my servers through natural growth

find a community and build a feature they really want

[nimble pelican]

Omg I love your Bernese mountain dog pfp squidtoon

[blissful torrent]

I run a verification bot that sends a DM to all joining members in all servers. So I have the invite link in every DM and I have like 150K visitors on my website every month as a result

[royal timber]

yep i dont focus too much on server count, im just building my community first off

[lilac copper]

god damn, I've been using datadog for like 3 years but my boards don't look anywhere near that good

[neat valley]

need popular discord server ehhhhhhh

[royal timber]

that's just a good bot though

[nimble pelican]

Maybe ask around in a support server for homework?

[karmic osprey]

ty

she's the best

[nimble pelican]

Or suggest it

[royal timber]

provides a solution for something you really need

i might add it to my server 😂

[neat valley]

even if they'll add, it's just +1 server

[blissful torrent]

Haha thanks a lot 😄

[wanton jewel]

I run a small bot with like 100 servers. I got rejected 3 times on top.gg till now

[nimble pelican]

I love Bernese mountain dogs so much

[blissful torrent]

I love Datadog

[karmic osprey]

I wish I had one ;(. this ones my cousins

[nimble pelican]

You never know, if one person likes a bot in a big server people would invite it and the cycle keeps going

[lilac copper]

Mind sharing what that cpu graph is showing? @blissful torrent

[neat valley]

lemme see if homework help servers even exist lol

[lilac copper]

the shadow thing is new to me

[nimble pelican]

Ooo I have one myself

Yep they do

There's a lot of them

[karmic osprey]

definitely

[nimble pelican]

Your bot would've blown up over the lockdown tbh

[neat valley]

https://edge.dimden.dev/7ef76cb04a.png

[nimble pelican]

If ppl knew about it

Do u want me to DM u one

[royal timber]

maybe more math-sci oriented servers?

[nimble pelican]

Mhm

[royal timber]

ie college level

[karmic osprey]

but how would you provide hw help 0-0

[royal timber]

theyd love something like your bot

[nimble pelican]

check vanity urls

[karmic osprey]

that'd be interesting maybe something like gg/math or gg/physics

[neat valley]

maybe

[karmic osprey]

what does your bot do?

[blissful torrent]

Sure mel

[neat valley]

joined gg/math

big

i'll try dming admin or something

[royal timber]

best of luck

[dull junco]

yay discord

[finite nova]

When the banks fraud department calls 👀

[royal timber]

oh dear

[kind helm]

lol

i forgot that usd != cad

uhm'

it was $50 instead of 30

so thats cool

[finite nova]

The charge was in USD but the charge was made in Netherlands xD

So they thought it was fraud 🤣

[blissful torrent]

@lilac copper so it's basically just the system.cpu.user metric with the built-in "basic" anomaly overlay. You can choose your bounds and the line will be in a different color outside these bounds. And you can set up automated monitors that warn you whenever the metric has been out of the bounds for x minutes

My bounds are a bit tight btw

[honest marsh]

hehe, well i didnt get any bids this time

[dull junco]

e

[tulip wharf]

e

[hollow iris]

What happens if we can't pay for everything? (I paid half but I don't have the rest)

[tulip wharf]

then you get banned

from auctions

[finite nova]

xD

and lose your half

Maybe

[red vale]

big oof

[hollow iris]

bruh

[red vale]

i think if u talk to someone about it then they wont ban u depending on ur reason

why would u even bid something u know u cant pay?

[hollow iris]

I hadn't seen that the vote credits were getting back to 0 each month

[red vale]

ah

well

yea maybe uh try to find a staff member to talk to?

cuz i think the bans are automatic if u dont pay by the deadline

[wanton jewel]

We have 12 hours to pay right?

[hollow iris]

Yes

[hollow iris]

They don't answer me...

[wanton jewel]

@hollow iris how much more left for you to pay?

[hollow iris]

15$

[dull junco]

mayb read?

[flat relic]

I never won one

[unborn isle]

Oops I slept through auctions

Mm still got a tag

[neat valley]

dad

[dull junco]

hello jupple

[neat valley]

sexy

[neat valley]

maybe try getting them again in your bots Votes menu

[hollow iris]

I've already redeemed them

[finite nova]

@hollow iris DM me.

[hollow iris]

#557980762675085333

[lilac umbra]

How long do we have left to pay?

[dense zephyr]

You get 12 hours so I'm assuming a couple more hours

[lilac umbra]

do u know what time they finished at?

[oak whale]

3 hours ago

so you have 9 hours more

its also in #580510490074152961

[lilac umbra]

thanks

ok feww

Its 5 pm for me when i need to pay bye

[red vale]

hey so i paid is there any confirmation iimm supposed to get?

[dense zephyr]

You'll get the receipt sent to your email

[red vale]

coolio. on the pay page it still says i need to pay, is this normal?

[dense zephyr]

Yeah

Give it about 5 minutes or so

[red vale]

okii

[unborn isle]

That's 'normal' yeah

[dense zephyr]

Known issue but just don't end up making a duplicate payment by paying twice

[red vale]

yeah haha

[glad jewel]

What time do ads goes live?

[dense zephyr]

Tomorrow around 2 PM EST or so

[glad jewel]

5am Wednesday morning?

[glad jewel]

cool 😎

[candid lily]

Ping

[nimble pelican]

congrats on trial mod <3 well deserved

[candid lily]

Thanks

[dull junco]

[dense zephyr]

@candid lily Congrats

[jade shale]

My I ask why I'm unable to place a bid?

[nimble pelican]

it's payment hours

[jade shale]

Sorry my first time doing this.

[nimble pelican]

bidding starts 7pm utc

#580510490074152961

[jade shale]

OK

[nimble pelican]

and end on Monday next week 7pm utc^^

[jade shale]

Thanks!

[frosty relic]

mee6 wins bids on every category? do they really pay that amount every week?

I think one bot should be restricted to participate a number of categories, that will give other bot owners some room

right now it looks like mee6 has permanent ad spot

[muted vigil]

That would defeat the purpose of auctions

Biggest bank wins

[frosty relic]

yeah

i think top.gg is not only a marketplace but a great platform for new bot owners as well, but if the purpose is only to earn then yeah it will defeat the purpose

[finite nova]

The auctions are not required to use Top.gg

Its at your own risk, the same as any other auction

[red vale]

^ i was able to gain about 500 servers without auctions by just having my bot on top.gg

[finite nova]

For that matter, the fact that Top.gg offers free advertising is a feat of itself

They could very easily charge you $29.99/month to use the platform

[red vale]

i like the idea of bidding for spots

if u rlly want a top spot then u should be ready to cough up some cash

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[finite nova]

Its a premium advertising spot that can get hundreds of thousands of clicks in the right spots

It should be expected that its gonna cost a lot

I spent $553 USD today on the top page alone 🤣

and I wasn't even in 1st place for that page

mee6 was

[red vale]

i spent $95 and i won the Fun tag so

[jovial ravine]

Do the top bots earn free credits as well, though?

Or is that capped?

[finite nova]

It was debated but as far as I know they still get the same credits as other bots

[jovial ravine]

$1 per 1,000 votes

[finite nova]

Some top bots don't get as many votes as others though, such as Mee6

Yes

[jovial ravine]

Right

[finite nova]

Mee6 has under 1K votes rn

[jovial ravine]

Dank Memer prob gets enough to buy ad spots ... but they don’t 😂

Free advertising alone is probably sufficient enough

[finite nova]

Just hearing "Dank Memer" and most people know what it is ;rofl

[jovial ravine]

Facts

MEE6 as well though, tbh

[finite nova]

I mean

Mee6 is plastered everywhere on Discord

[jovial ravine]

Lol

Their marketing is 👌🏻

Here I am with a little “fun” bot trying to break even

[finite nova]

🤣

A good ad speaks 1000 volumes

A bad ad speaks 10,000

[jovial ravine]

I normally however around the 6% - 8% CTR range

Assuming that’s fairly average 🤷🏻‍♂️

[finite nova]

I think my last Top Page campaign was roughly 36% or so

[jovial ravine]

Top page is different, imo

[finite nova]

🤣

Very different

It gets a lot of traffic

[jovial ravine]

All the smaller categories don’t get that high if CTR from my experience

[finite nova]

Most people don't search by category unless looking for something extremely specific

[jovial ravine]

Or my ad is just bad, lmao

[finite nova]

The big categories get clicks from "new" users

[jovial ravine]

What’s your bot if you don’t mind me asking?

[finite nova]

Since they are looking for bots in general rather than a specific kind

Sentinel

[jovial ravine]

Nice! Good job with your bot.. assuming it has done well considering you placed an ad on the front page for it

[finite nova]

😒 I just realized the shards broke my DBL stats posting 🤣

[jovial ravine]

Rip

[finite nova]

It says its in 116 servers

[jovial ravine]

Imagine

[finite nova]

Good thing my own API shows the live info

https://cdn.thecutefoxxy.com/qWGCwC

[jovial ravine]

Mine reports the shards correctly 🤔 - are you using the new API?

[finite nova]

xD

its reporting the guild number

Its probably cause I am using the pre-sharded method

[jovial ravine]

226 total guilds .. but you’ve advertised on the front page before?

Ah, I’m not doing preshard

[finite nova]

Yes, verification lock with a workaround and then loss over time

We were at around 500

[jovial ravine]

Omg that’s a gigantic rip

Sorry to hear that

[finite nova]

Then lost a bunch during our data migration

😒 Since its so difficult to click a different link

[jovial ravine]

My bot just surpassed 2.2k guilds

[finite nova]

Oh nice.

I am currently in the middle of sharding mine to prepare for the guild influx tomorrow xD

[jovial ravine]

Good luck!

[finite nova]

Its....painful

[jovial ravine]

It actually wasn’t a super trivial task for me

[finite nova]

xD me and the dev I hired have been here for hours

[jovial ravine]

Especially since I used the discord.Collection() object.

[finite nova]

Around 6-8 hours actually

[jovial ravine]

I switched to leveraging Redis for my cache .. then it pretty much fixed all my troubles

Since there was one consolidated data store

Sorry - kinda forgot this was auctions

[finite nova]

rofl

I mean its auctions general

Luckily the core features on Sentinel allows us to shard without breaking the core features

So we can perform maintenance without breaking the stuff that the bot is based around

[wanton jewel]

@finite nova what do u use for sharding?

[finite nova]

The Discord.js sharding manager?

[lilac umbra]

Hi, I paid for my Auction & on the Pay page it has;t disappeared, Is anyone able to help? I do have a bank statement as proof.

@violet sand are you able to help?

[violet sand]

how long ago did you pay?

[lilac umbra]

About 7-10 min ago

[violet sand]

I'd probably wait 10 more and then DM Veld

[lilac umbra]

Ok, I already Dm'ed veld so idk

does veld manage the auctions?

[violet sand]

IIRC theres the possibility that the payment webhook failed but auctions is supposed to refetch the payment status every few minutes

[violet sand]

AFAIK yes

[lilac umbra]

hmm ok, does it email you when successful?

[violet sand]

I dont think it does

[lilac umbra]

okay, thanks for ur help!

[gray shoal]

I got an email when I paid 🤷‍♂️

[sly pagoda]

Probably not from Top.gg put from whatever payment provider you used to send the payment

[gray shoal]

Oh yeah I got it from FastSpring, my bank sends push notifications, not emails

[dull junco]

e

[wanton jewel]

I think it eats resources too much

[red vale]

I use JDA’s DefaultShardManager without issue

[slow laurel]

how long does it take until the ads go live?

[reef saffron]

#580510490074152961

[shell yew]

uhh my bid isnt there https://i-love.helper.wtf/Im93pXm.png

https://i-love.helper.wtf/5N1bvpj.png https://i-love.helper.wtf/4DBvZET.png

[spice forge]

did you already pay?

[shell yew]

no

i just want to give top.gg my money

[candid lily]

You missed your chance to pay then it seems, lucky that you weren't removed from auctions i guess

just make sure it doesn't happen again

[shell yew]

huh

i thouht u had 24hrs to pay it oops

[candid lily]

You have 12 hours to be able to

[shell yew]

aaahhh okay icic

[supple cove]

my advice: set an alarm near auction ending

[mint wave]

can I sign up for auctions?

wait I can already participate in auctions?

[sly pagoda]

The fact that you have access to this channel means you already have access to auctions

Read #580510490074152961 and start bidding :)

[shell yew]

i def will next time xd

[supple cove]

beware of mee6

[mint wave]

thanks

[mint wave]

that bot is taking votes cuz it's on home page
and it's on homepage cuz it has votes to get money

eze business

[supple cove]

• a ton of revenue

[mint wave]

So I can bid from tuesday?

[supple cove]

bidding should open in about 4 hours

[mint wave]

okay..

[supple cove]

around the time the new ads go live

[mint wave]

So my add will be there for 1 week?

[supple cove]

yes

[mint wave]

dayumm.. that'll be expensive

top.gg stonks ⬆️

[supple cove]

well 1k for a million impressions is not a bad deal

[unborn isle]

Got front page top voted for 500 bucks a little while ago

That was a good deal

But only because the 2nd spot didn't pay

[finite nova]

xD

Top page is pretty good too

[abstract yoke]

i won a bid, but i dont see anywhere to pay for it

[spice forge]

you were late

[abstract yoke]

too late?

[spice forge]

you only had 12 hrs to pay for it

[abstract yoke]

does that mean i'm going to be banned?

[finite nova]

Probably

[kind helm]

F

[red vale]

uhh so ads should be live now, right?

[candid lily]

potentially, unless veld decides to give you another chance

[candid lily]

yeah, keep in mind that caching etc may delay that

[kind helm]

yea developer server tag ads arent showing yet

[neat valley]

CTRL+SHIFT+R doesn't work 🥺

[candid lily]

cloudflare caching stuff, not browser stuff

[red vale]

might be cloudflare cache

[neat valley]

ah

[red vale]

yeah

[neat valley]

ouch

and it's back

[blissful torrent]

Went down for a few seconds

[neat valley]

https://edge.dimden.dev/b92264cd4c.png

[fallen tartan]

My ad was placed on top.gg, but is now reverted back to the old ones? xD

[candid lily]

Yeah caching

ctrl+f5

[fallen tartan]

Gone again, lolz

Prob a bit glitchy here

[candid lily]

yeah stinky caching

[fallen tartan]

Oh, you're a trial mod now

Congrats

[candid lily]

Thanks

[kind helm]

now lets hope my $50 is worth it

[finite nova]

xD Can't tell if its my cache or if its Cloudflare's cache

cause CTRL+F5 doesn't do anything, same with CTRL+SHIFT+R

[candid lily]

what tag and what bot name?

[finite nova]

Top Page - Sentinel

Its showing up every like 15 refreshes

but then goes away when I go back to the page

[supple cove]

beautiful innit?

[candid lily]

Wait what?

Not even the runner ups paid?

[gilded kernel]

Lol?

[supple cove]

apparently xd

[candid lily]

The auctions experience

[supple cove]

i thought this was my cache but apparently its not XD

[gilded kernel]

Didn't mee6 win that?

[candid lily]

mee6 won the front page ones

[gilded kernel]

I thought they were bidding on top voted too

[supple cove]

this was the front page

[mint wave]

Can you just that bot from top.gg 😂

[candid lily]

this is front page, the tag itself isn't front page

wait lol

caching sucks

[tender hinge]

yea

[supple cove]

i reloaded the page

it was indeed my cache xd

[candid lily]

Nah mee6 and sentinel are the ones on the front page

[supple cove]

this is interesting however

[gilded kernel]

Maybe it's a bug

[tender hinge]

Nah

caching sucks

I reloaded after CTRL+R and its like that for me now

[supple cove]

i reloaded quite a few times that spot still is empty xd

[dull junco]

nah sum ppl didnt pay

one of the server spots didnt pay as well

[candid lily]

Both places on top tag weren't paid for

[tender hinge]

they were

is caching being fucky

because all slots but one on front page of DBL is filled

[finite nova]

when your $500 ad spot gets 15K impressions but only like 150 clicks

😒

[tender hinge]

its dependant on your ad

if your ads doesnt hit that target audience its going to do bad, its how advertisements work

[finite nova]

I mean I find it strange considering the last time, we got hundreds of clicks an hour

Same ad and description

[tender hinge]

which page

[finite nova]

Top

[tender hinge]

hm

[finite nova]

Thats what I said xD

Top normally gets hundreds of clicks

We have gotten like 150 with a click through rate of 2.3%

[tender hinge]

tbf

its only wednesday

see how it is tomorrow

[finite nova]

Thats what I plan on checking

Wouldn't be suprised if I see a spike through the night

[mellow finch]

I like the fact that top.gg just removed all my credits even though I claimed $15 at 1/2/2021

[oak whale]

I hate date formats

Jan second or Feb 1st

[mint wave]

can I cancel my bid?
and what If I bid and not able to pay on time?

[kind helm]

why are bids back

dont i have a week of ad spot?

[oak whale]

You cant cancel a bid

If you dont pay you will be removed possibky

@kind helm you do, the next week auction runs during this week

[kind helm]

ah ok

[oak whale]

Auctions last a week

[kind helm]

oh k

i thought it was 3 days

[oak whale]

Mostly people bid on the last day

But they run for a week

[mint wave]

I wanted to bid with a different bot 😅
I hope I get outbid xD

can I change bot after I bid?

[oak whale]

You can rebid with a different thing the same amount and it will overwrite

[mint wave]

so I bid with another bot with same amount and it'll overwrite?

[oak whale]

Mhm

[mint wave]

means yes?

[oak whale]

Yes

Sorry

[mint wave]

1. that's helpful for my situation
2. doesn't sound fair 😂

[oak whale]

I mean either way you have to pay what you bid if you win

Doesnt matter what bot it is

[mint wave]

oh.. so only I can overwrite my bid with same amount?

[dense zephyr]

I think your bid for Role Management tag will get outbid by Monday so you don't have to worry about it

[mint wave]

point 😂

If I bid with another bot.. for $10
Will it override my bid for JSL or it'll go there for runner-up spot?

https://prnt.sc/yxekfs

[finite nova]

It will overwrite it

You can only have 1 active bid per tag, regardless of if the product is different

[mint wave]

thanks

[mossy robin]

Hi lol

[austere steppe]

hey

How to buy the golden spot for a server?

[dull ibex]

golden spot?

[opal geyser]

just go to bid section, then click the selector and scroll down to server tags, choose a category that you want to advertise

then you'll see your server on bid section

[austere steppe]

Do you accept paypal balance in the bids payment or do you take money through card in paypal?
(Sorry, this is our first time bidding and since we don't want to lose we want to be fully prepared)

[violet sand]

i remember being able to use my balance

[lilac umbra]

Since there is not other bot beside mine did the other bot not pay?

[thorny silo]

Yes, you can use your paypal balance.

[reef saffron]

@lilac umbra correct the other bot did not pay, feels bad man

[neat valley]

Will my credits get removed automatically if my bot is in the top 2?

[gilded olive]

unless you use them all

I don’t think they would

[neat valley]

Okey...

[ornate spire]

Hmm

[rocky ether]

hello

[ornate spire]

Hi

[unborn isle]

This has nothing to do with the auctions payment. In your PayPal settings you can choose where PayPal gets the money from you (e.g. Balance, bank, credit card)

[austere steppe]

It does, sometimes websites don't accept paypal balance (I can send screenshots)

They take money through the card linked

Also, the websites says credit cards are accepted, does that actually mean that you guys wont accept any debit card?

[candid lily]

That isn't something related to the website then, that could be related to paypal not allowing you to pay through your bank/credit card because of security measures. I had to deal with that for several months

[candid lily]

https://fastspring.com/docs/payment-methods-accepted-by-fastspring/ anything supported by fastspring (the payment processing used by top.gg) can be used

[pseudo cedar]

How is the minimum bid calculated?

[astral moat]

25% of winning bid from previous week is what I’ve heard in the past

[pseudo cedar]

That's what I thought, but the minimum bids have not updated from last week

[white cove]

its been constant

[gilded kernel]

@pseudo cedar Able to DM?

[pseudo cedar]

?

[gilded kernel]

Could we DM

[pseudo cedar]

sure go for it

[pure mica]

Can you bid on the certified page or pages like it if you are not certified?

[candid lily]

yes

you can

[hard escarp]

I think major ad blockers are blocking the bot ads on top.gg.
for the last 2 weeks I've seen a significant drop in traffic even though I'm running ads.
this week I stopped running ads and my views,. invites, etc hand remained the same, as measured through Google analytics.
my only conclusion is the ads are being blocked by the majority and for me aren't as useful, can this be investigated and a workaround put in place? it's a bit arsey to adblock the paid slots.

[candid lily]

uorigin doesn't seem to block the promotion slots on my end, can you tell me one adblocker that might do?

[hard escarp]

mine doesn't either

[blissful torrent]

Not on my end either, using Adblock

[gilded olive]

my adblocker never blocked them either

[hard escarp]

I use ublock origin

but it's the only conclusion I can come to, others have reported the same odd drops in the graph, on the top.gg graphs they show as an odd boob like or camel hump like shape

similar drops in voting too which makes no sense as my bots gameplay drives voting not top.ggs promotion

but even the peaks of that graph and all graphs are half of January

[quaint island]

Hmm finally someone has spoken about this, I just figured I'm deluded or my bot is shit, but I've seen this impact since December, votes, views in ads stopped receiving their normal counts

I just stopped buying ads for real money as of now

[hard escarp]

same!

SOMETHING is wrong. ads on other platforms haven't had the same decrease

nor has organic traffic

in fact I'm still getting the same organic 200+ new servers a day

is it possible that top.gg has lost some Google positioning or something

you're like 4th random person to agree with me

[dense zephyr]

I've noticed the stats seem to be lower too compared to before

[hard escarp]

can we possibly get confirmation from a bigger fish like Brandon or mel

@low hinge can you please confirm if there's an issue, because it seems to be

[quaint island]

Hmm that's a good possibility, I doubt adblocks have any part in this except for voting, many people are just too lazy to turn them off, instead of voting they will just keep playing the bot

[hard escarp]

we aren't getting same value for money out of ads and this is partial why I didn't bid this week

[quaint island]

I really look forward for the new premium system that Veld been promising, I really hope its some good. I don't expect like insanely huge perks, but I'm just interested

[finite nova]

I am experiencing it too, same ad, same bot and same spot but with a difference in clicks and CTR of over 50%

[low hinge]

We're still growing every day, so views should increase too

[hard escarp]

nope they've shrank for a lot of us

I'd say approximately halved

[low hinge]

Oh since when?

[hard escarp]

from 390 invites a day and 1800 views to 900 views and 220 invites

and halved votes

[low hinge]

we did do this for views:

[hard escarp]

also now every time I vote im challenged by Google to find fire hydrants

[low hinge]

every time?

cc @dreamy summit

[hard escarp]

yes

but only on mobile, even though same network as WiFi on laptop

[quaint island]

cool I get boats 😂 👏

[dreamy summit]

I get captchas when searching on google every time on mobile too

[hard escarp]

fire hydrant is such an Americanism, we don't get them in the UK

[dreamy summit]

wE dETEcTeD sUspiCiOUs aCtiVITy

[finite nova]

reCaptcha hates people in general

[low hinge]

wtf I never get captchas

[finite nova]

I rarely get a captcha with hCaptcha

[hard escarp]

it used to be fine for me

[finite nova]

but recaptcha is litterally everytime

[dreamy summit]

hcaptcha is the worst shit

[hard escarp]

it's been the past 2 weeks or so

[dreamy summit]

way way worse than recaptcha

[hard escarp]

for challenging me

I hate hcaptcha

it put me off reviewing bots

[low hinge]

well there you go

[finite nova]

🤣 At least hcpatcha doesn't constantly challenge users and then ban their IP