any user can invite the bot and access that info
#development
solemn latch
sharp geyser
spare me the suffering
no
ancient nova
😭
pale lily
Guys anyone developer of bots can help me with something?
sharp geyser
Mmm, at this point I do see where you are going with it
sharp geyser
Guys anyone developer of bots can help me with something?
Not with a question like that no
Don't ask 2 ask
simply state the issue, provide the relevant code and error
someone who can answer will eventually answer
real rose
sharp geyser
kek
pale lily
Not with a question like that no
How to upload a file of discord bot to visual studio
sharp geyser
@solemn latch In some cases though I do see having my own
wtf I swear to god I meant to delete that
sorry woo
Accidentally hit enter ig instead of deleting what I was going to write before thinking it over
sharp geyser
How to upload a file of discord bot to visual studio
What are you talking about
pale lily
What are you talking about
How i can get file of code discord bot in visual studio
To put token bot and host it
solemn latch
you write the code yourself
pale lily
But i have it in file?
sharp geyser
Visual studios is not a hosting service
pale lily
node?
solemn latch
visual studio is a text editor
pale lily
Run install.bat then once all the modules are installed run run.bat
YOU NEED THE NODE.JS```i got this from GitHub told you how to make bot and give you file
Where i have to upload the file
sharp geyser
If you want to keep it running forever either use an old pc that you won't use and will constantly stay awake, or use a vps which you'll have to pay for
pale lily
but listen what site i have to put the code of bot?
sharp geyser
You dont...?
pale lily
Dont what
sharp geyser
How the hell am I supposed to tell you what it is
you quoted the github repo
so obv run.bat is included with the github stuff
so follow its instructions
solemn latch
we dont know the repo you're looking at so we cant really tell you how to use it.
If you're unsure what to do make an issue on github for help, or see if they have a support method
quartz kindle
i got this from GitHub told you how to make bot and give you file
show the github
quartz kindle
h
sharp geyser
h
ancient nova
this looks sus
pale lily
i cant run it?
quartz kindle
and why not?
pale lily
so how pls
ancient nova
make a bot by learning js not stealing someone's code lol
quartz kindle
oh, i thought that was a rethoric, you saying that "i cant run it because it doesnt work"
pale lily
🔝 @echo off
npm i
npm i discord.js
npm i node-html-to-image
npm i puppeteer
npm i mime
npm i fs
npm i path
goto top
quartz kindle
if its a genuine question, yes you can run it, even if its old, but some things might not work anymore
pale lily
what is this
quartz kindle
the commands that are executed
pale lily
where i have to put this?
ancient nova
just doing npm i would install everything
pale lily
cmd?
ancient nova
make sure the cmd is cd'd to the same file path the json file is in
quartz kindle
where i have to put this?
you literally double click the .bat file
and it runs them for you
ancient nova
what it says, it can't install cause there is no package.json
ancient nova
make sure the cmd is open in the same file path the bat file is in
cd FILE_PATH
npm i
node MAIN_FILE.js
pale lily
I can't understand
pale lily
`cd FILE_PATH`
What file path mean?
quartz kindle
did you double click the bat file?
pale lily
did you double click the bat file?
No
ancient nova
What file path mean?
??? wdym
quartz kindle
and why not?
pale lily
double click in which one?
ancient nova
open file explorer and copy the file path of the folder u downloaded
pale lily
Can i stream for you guys?
quartz kindle
whats so hard about following instructions? >.>
pale lily
how to following them
ancient nova
whats so hard about following instructions? >.>
lol
pale lily
Screenshot or something
quartz kindle
how to following them
dude are you trolling rn?
quartz kindle
what is so hard about "run install.bat"
like how can you not understand what that means?
pale lily
1. download folder from github by doing git url
I did its .zip
wheat mesa
bottum compress
ancient nova
I did its .zip
bruh u have to extract it
pale lily
Then how
ancient nova
I JUST TOLD U HOW TO
pale lily
Ok i need to download winrar
spark flint
quartz kindle
network included?
spark flint
yeah
quartz kindle
then yes its good
spark flint
ok good
quartz kindle
but a better metric would be to measure the api performance without network
since network is 90% latency caused by distance
quartz kindle
as i said, you didnt need winrar, but you didnt listen so whatever.
anyway extract everything into a folder
pale lily
i did?
quartz kindle
then you can close winrar
pale lily
ok
quartz kindle
and open the folder where you extracted everything to and double click install.bat
pale lily
when i double click on install cmd says global or local and close
pale lily
quartz kindle
that means its installing
pale lily
ok what next
quartz kindle
did it create a "node_modules" folder?
quartz kindle
thats not what i asked
if you dont have a node_modules folder, then the install failed
hold shift and right click on an empty area inside your folder, and click on "open command window here"
quartz kindle
then run cmd and navigate to your folder
quartz kindle
do you know the cd command?
ancient nova
cause u aren't forwarding it to a filepath...
quartz kindle
you see how it says C:/Users/liyass?
pale lily
could have just answered "no"
i dont see yur msg sorry man
ancient nova
quartz kindle
thats the folder where your current cmd is right now
ancient nova
replace the index.js with your main file
quartz kindle
the cd command lets you change this folder to what you want
for example
if your files are in a folder called "mybot"
and this folder is inside Users/ilyass
then you do cd mybot
and your cmd will enter that folder
pale lily
i have to do cd my folder name?
ancient nova
you can also use push and popd if u are 1 folder below ur filepath
quartz kindle
i have to do cd my folder name?
yes
ancient nova
do pushd foldername
wheat mesa
wtf are these checkmarks
quartz kindle
what you type in the cd command depends on what your folder is named, where your folder is, and which folder cmd currently is
quartz kindle
wtf are these checkmarks
shared with google drive? idk
wheat mesa
they just appeared randomly
ancient nova
wtf are these checkmarks
ur files have now become verified lol
wheat mesa
I looked it up and it says something about onedrive, but I have never used onedrive
and my onedrive is empty
spark flint
wtf are these checkmarks
syned to onedrive usually
but the icon looks different
right click --> properties
should say
quartz kindle
wheat mesa
quartz kindle
how do you add the red marker?
im using lightshot
ancient nova
im using lightshot
pretty cool
wheat mesa
sharex my beloved
spark flint
lol
pale lily
@quartz kindle this is so hard thank you for helping
I cant do this
@ancient nova thank you too
ancient nova
<@392035788004524043> thank you too
np
you should first learn JS and basics of the discord.js library next time before attempting to create bot
message.guild.bans.fetch().then(bannedMembers => {
const bannedList = bannedMembers.map(user => `${user.user.username} (${message.user.id})`);
if (bannedList.length >= 10) bannedList.slice(0, 10);
const bannedEmbed = new MessageEmbed();
bannedEmbed.setTitle("Terminated Users List");
bannedEmbed.setDescription(bannedList.join("\n,"));
return message.channel.send({embeds: [bannedEmbed]})
}).catch(message.channel.send("Could not find any banned users in this server."));
``` so I'm trying to fetch bannedMembers, I was wondering what would be the best way to do pages? So if there is more than 10 users I could just list the rest of them in a book like system^ also it doesn't appear to slice
lyric mountain
```js
message.guild.bans.fetch().then(bannedMembers => {
const banne...
Chunkification
Basically you split the list into smaller lists
ancient nova
Basically you split the list into smaller lists
yeah but how would I know when to change a page
lyric mountain
Are u using buttons?
lyric mountain
...that's still buttons for this matter
ancient nova
well I still don't really want to use them for this
maybe doing something like
command <value> and <value> would be a page indicator?
lyric mountain
Doesn't matter, there are 2 ways of doing it: either buttons or index specification
ancient nova
that seems easy enougb but not quite sure how to convert it
lyric mountain
No, that's pretty bad since you'd be re-fetching the ban list each time the user wants to change the page
ancient nova
No, that's pretty bad since you'd be re-fetching the ban list each time the user...
I could fetch all of them into a variable without slicing
and slice only based on input?
still, that sounds quite complicated
lyric mountain
I could fetch all of them into a variable without slicing
User still would need to specify index on each command run
ancient nova
User still would need to specify index on each command run
default would be the first page
lyric mountain
You'd take a single page and discard the rest, inefficient
ancient nova
You'd take a single page and discard the rest, inefficient
but I'm already doing that
so paging would be an upgrade
try {
await message.guild.bans.fetch().then(bannedMembers => {
let bannedList = Array.from(bannedMembers.values()).map((user, index) => `${index + 1}. ${user.user.tag} (${user.user.id})`);
if (bannedList.length >= 10) bannedList = bannedList.slice(0, 10);
const bannedEmbed = new MessageEmbed();
bannedEmbed.setTitle("Recent Terminated Users List");
bannedEmbed.setDescription(bannedList.join("\n"));
return message.channel.send({embeds: [bannedEmbed]})
});
} catch {
return message.channel.send("Could not find any banned users in this server.")
}
that's my current code
it only goes from 1 to 10
and if I do command 2 I want it to go from 11 to 20
is that not possible?
lyric mountain
Make the command fetch the entire list, chunky it.
After that, show the first page and add interactive buttons to allow navigation without having to fetch the list again
Each next button increments chunk index by 1, previous decrements
When you change index, update the page
lyric mountain
For-loop + remainder operator
var chunks = []
var currChunk = []
for (int i = 0; i < list.length; i++) {
// If this isn't the first pass and it reached the defined chunkSize
if (!i > 0 && i % chunkSize == 0) {
// Add the current chunk to chunk list
currChunk << list[i]
chunks << currChunk
// Clear current chunk to start the next
currChunk.clear()
continue
}
// Add current item to current chunk
currChunk << list[i]
}
// If there're leftover items in an incomplete chunk, add to the chunk list
if (!currChunk.isEmpty()) {
chunks << currChunk
}
Groovy example, without stream or map whatever
There's a smaller way of doing it with reduce in js, but I don't remember
ancient nova
that seems quite confusing, I wish you'd add comments to that lol
how do I integrate that into the list?
lyric mountain
This is just an example to understand the concept
ancient nova
I see
lyric mountain
There
Chunks will be something like
list = 1..23
chunkSize = 5
[
[1,2,3,4,5],
[6,7,8,9,10],
[11,12,13,14,15],
[16,17,18,19,20],
[21,22,23]
]
List being the original list, chunk size being the maximum amount of items per chunk
ancient nova
I think I get the basics of how that works but I don't think I know enough to put that into practice
I'd rather try to make a function out of it
something like
const Chunkify = function(...) {...}
try {
await message.guild.bans.fetch().then(bannedMembers => {
let bannedList = Chunkify(Array.from(bannedMembers.values()).map((user, index) => `${index + 1}. ${user.user.tag} (${user.user.id})`));
if (bannedList.length >= 10) bannedList = bannedList.slice(0, 10);
const bannedEmbed = new MessageEmbed();
bannedEmbed.setTitle("Recent Terminated Users List");
bannedEmbed.setDescription(bannedList.join("\n"));
return message.channel.send({embeds: [bannedEmbed]})
});
} catch {
return message.channel.send("Could not find any banned users in this server.")
}
and use it like
lyric mountain
Forget slice
ancient nova
Use reactions/buttons to allow navigation
I don't want to over complicate that
single page is fine, really
lyric mountain
By not overcomplicating you'll be doing a lot of unnecessary api calls
ancient nova
however I'm still not quite sure how the Chunkify function would fully work
ancient nova
By not overcomplicating you'll be doing a lot of unnecessary api calls
it's fine, discord isn't gonna kill me for that
lyric mountain
You don't need to chunkify if you'll be sending a single page
ancient nova
plus the command is only restricted to server owners
lyric mountain
plus the command is only restricted to server owners
Anyone can be a server owner btw
ancient nova
You don't need to chunkify if you'll be sending a single page
I do, I still don't know how to slice the array into pages tho
lyric mountain
You won't slice into pages, you'll just get a range of it
.slice(pageSize * page, pageSize * (page + 1))
Subtract 1 if u consider page 1 as first page
Remember tho, this is a BAD way of showing a potentially huge list
ancient nova
`.slice(pageSize * page, pageSize * (page + 1))`
okay, explain where exactly to put the .slice and where all these variables come from
lyric mountain
okay, explain where exactly to put the .slice and where all these variables come...
The variables are pretty much self-explaining no?
ancient nova
Remember tho, this is a BAD way of showing a potentially huge list
I don't think it's gonna be that big?
lyric mountain
You set them to whatever u want
lyric mountain
I don't think it's gonna be *that* big?
A server I am moderator of has more than a thousand bans
Maybe tens of thousands, but I'm not counting it, just estimating
It takes minutes to go from the top to the bottom of it
ancient nova
A server I am moderator of has more than a thousand bans
just how big is that server
lyric mountain
And you'll be fetching every single user in that list every time someone runs that command
Then discarding it the very next moment
ancient nova
okay what is the pages and page variables supposed to signify
lyric mountain
The page number
lyric mountain
Whatever you pass as argument
lyric mountain
and what does `pages` do?
Typo
lyric mountain
just how big is that server
I'd say on the lower end of "average"
ancient nova
bannedEmbed.setDescription(bannedList.slice(10 * (args[0] || 0), 10 * (args[0] + 10 || 0)).join("\n"));
so
lyric mountain
You can't do math operations with strings
ancient nova
...um is that good enough
ancient nova
I'd say on the lower end of "average"
impossible it has this many bans then 😐 you'd have to get raided by anonymous to get this many bans lol
lyric mountain
...um is that good enough
If we consider only terrible choices, ye it's good enough
lyric mountain
impossible it has this many bans then 😐 you'd have to get raided by anonymous t...
Not really, just have a long livrd server
Is there any way to get ban number on discord without resorting to eval?
ancient nova
Is there any way to get ban number on discord without resorting to eval?
ban number?
lyric mountain
😭
Like, you really shouldn't be making the user rewrite the command every single time they want to change the page
This is terrible both on UX side and on code side
ancient nova
lyric mountain
ban number?
So I can screenshot it for u
ancient nova
well
ancient nova
So I can screenshot it for u
pretty sure the ban has a counter in the guid settings
wheat mesa
I thought something happened to the bans endpoint didn’t it?
ancient nova
if not, then eval may be the only way
wheat mesa
Didn’t they take down the ban fetching endpoint or was that something else?
ancient nova
I thought something happened to the bans endpoint didn’t it?
it changed from fetchBans() to bans.fetch()
wheat mesa
No not djs
ancient nova
No not djs
well either way it doesn't seem like they taken it down
so I think it's something else
lyric mountain
No ban number on mobile, but whatever, here's only 5 raid reports from my antiraid system on that server
ancient nova
let bannedList = Array.from(bannedMembers.values()).map((user, index) => `${index + 1}. ${user.user.tag} (${user.user.id})`);
//if (bannedList.length >= 10) bannedList = bannedList.slice(0, 10);
const pageNumber = !args[0] ? 0 : args[0];
const bannedEmbed = new MessageEmbed();
bannedEmbed.setTitle(`Terminated Users List (Page ${pageNumber})`);
bannedEmbed.setDescription(bannedList.slice(10 * pageNumber, 10 * pageNumber).join("\n"));
return message.channel.send({embeds: [bannedEmbed]})
``` idk I'm trying to fix itThose 5 alone are almost a thousand banned users
wheat mesa
Apparently this is what I was thinking of:
Guild Bans Pagination
Today we've made a breaking API change to improve reliability and stability of the GET /guilds/{guild.id}/bans endpoint. Starting today, a maximum number of results will be returned in the response (configurable via a limit parameter). before and after can be supplied with a user id to paginate the response from the endpoint. You can learn more about the new endpoint parameters over on our docs site: https://discord.com/developers/docs/resources/guild#get-guild-bans
ancient nova
oh how to limit???
that'd be amazing if the guilds have too many bans
I can limit it to 100
wheat mesa
This was a while ago
wheat mesa
I believe it was due to some guy constantly fetching like 425k bans every now and then and nearly taking down the DAPI with it 
lyric mountain
Future itsokaybee
ancient nova
Future itsokaybee
shhh 😠
lyric mountain
wheat mesa
ancient nova
lmao
lyric mountain
Ban lists can become huge, it's a serious issue if u fetch it every time a command is ran
ancient nova
Ban lists can become huge, it's a serious issue if u fetch it every time a comma...
try {
await message.guild.bans.fetch().then(bannedMembers => {
let bannedList = Array.from(bannedMembers.values()).map((user, index) => `${index + 1}. ${user.user.tag} (${user.user.id})`);
//if (bannedList.length >= 10) bannedList = bannedList.slice(0, 10);
const pageNumber = !args[0] ? 0 : args[0];
const bannedEmbed = new MessageEmbed();
bannedEmbed.setTitle(`Terminated Users List (Page ${pageNumber})`);
bannedEmbed.setDescription(bannedList.slice(10 * pageNumber, 10 * (pageNumber + 10).join("\n")));
return message.channel.send({embeds: [bannedEmbed]})
});
} catch {
return message.channel.send("Could not find any banned users in this server.")
}
doesn't work
I don't know how to fix it
:c
ancient nova
huh no I thought it was how many people are showed per page
lyric mountain
That's the number before multiplication
ancient nova
then
I'm confused
if I remove it it will be the same as the first one
so nothing will fetch anyway
lyric mountain
No it wont
ancient nova
??? wdym it will not
lyric mountain
Because you're doing page + 1
.slice(10 * page, 10 * (page + 1))
If we consider page as 0, this will be:
.slice(10 * 0, 10 * 1)
Or "items from 0 to 10"
Aka first page
lyric mountain
Because your code is broken
ancient nova
how
lyric mountain
!args[0] is a boolean conversion
!args[0] ? 0 : args[0] will make it always pick the second option unless user DOESN'T supply a page
Because any non-zero, not-null/undefined value in js is true
ancient nova
that's what I want.. at least I think so
every number return the number and if the user doesn't prove a number return 0
0 being the first page
my head hurts
lyric mountain
coalescing operator
If the first value is null/undefined, return the second value
Else return itself
lyric mountain
ancient nova
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Operators/Null...
surprisingly works
thanks for da help
lyric mountain
There's also elvis, which is similar to coalescing operator
ancient nova
how does it look and what does it do?
seems there is plenty I don't know about JS yet
lyric mountain
Elvis doesn't exist in js afaik, but it kinda works like coalescing op
value ?: alternative
If value is null return alternative
Else return value
Both are short for value == null ? alternative : value
lyric mountain
It's the same as js' ??
ancient nova
😭
ancient nova
It's the same as js' `??`
oh
quartz kindle
i wish js had a ?? that could be used in place of !
something like if(??variable) { do something }
lyric mountain
Isn't that base js boolinization of variables?
Like, anything put inside a condition without any other context is supposed to be either true or false
ancient nova
i wish js had a ?? that could be used in place of !
it does tho
quartz kindle
no?
the ?? operator was introduced to deal with situations where you want 0 and "" to be valid values since || would consider them false values instead. the ! operator behaves like || and considers 0 and "" to be false values and there isnt any null-coalescing NOT operator that would give the same behavior as ?? gives but in a ! situation
ancient nova
so what you're saying ?? always returns some value?
quartz kindle
no
0 ?? 10 = 0
0 || 10 = 10
|| considers 0 as a false value
?? only considers null and undefined as false values
wheat mesa
wha
ancient nova
! is gonna reverse whatever output ?? gives
ancient nova
Am I understanding something wrong
not sure myself I'm kinda tired
sharp geyser
! is gonna reverse whatever output ?? gives
trying to educate tim is like trying to educate a brick wall
it is pointless
wheat mesa
except that brick wall is a walking living javascript spec book
quartz kindle
im talking about this situation specifically:
var a = 0
var b = null
if(!a) do something
if(!b) do something
both a and b conditions will do something, but i want only the actual null condition to do something, like like ?? only considers actual null and undefined
ancient nova
im talking about this situation specifically:
var a = 0
var b = null
if(!a) do ...
understood
I was thinking you were talking about something completely different
quartz kindle
so for example, if(!something) works on both null and 0, but it would be cool if there was something like if(?something) that only works on null and undefined, and not on 0 and ""
ancient nova
so for example, if(!something) works on both null and 0, but it would be cool if...
ahhhh
makes sense
quartz kindle
isn't it, if the left hand is null/undefined it will use the right hand?
yeah, so you could do some shenanigans with it to achieve the same thing
quartz kindle
double negative with bitwise NOT lmao
sharp geyser
looks weird
quartz kindle
ever seen how to remove a flag from a bitfield?
quartz kindle
bitfield &= ~flag
sharp geyser
yes lets not
sharp geyser
djs does that
https://www.typescriptlang.org/docs/handbook/release-notes/typescript-4-0.html#short-circuiting-assignment-operators this shows the ??= and shit that ts 4.0 adds support for
quartz kindle
??= was already in node 16+ i believe
sharp geyser
Yea but ts didn't add support for it until 4.0
quartz kindle
eslint still doesnt support static methods on classes
sharp geyser
👀
I am thinking I should read the typescript handbook to learn more about the language I constantly use but who cares
quartz kindle
theres like a several years old issue about it and they just tell you to use a plugin
sharp geyser
kek
quartz kindle
im playing around with jsdoc and enabled type checking for js in vsc
pretty much the same tyoe safety and type errors as ts lel
quartz kindle
trying to educate tim is like trying to educate a brick wall
also, yes im a stubborn prick
gn!
sharp geyser
gn kek
wheat mesa
ok
ancient nova
phishing scam don't click link
manic basin
rustic nova
-b 526435656482684948 compromised account
gilded plankBOT
Glare#3843 was successfully banned.
sharp geyser
Seems like that is a webhook or smth
rigid maple
this is not webhook
earnest phoenix
That's just a codeblock with the ANSI language, you can color anything you want
rigid maple
Is there a source where I can look at examples or features?
earnest phoenix
rigid maple
♥
\u001b[0;40m\u001b[1;32mThat's some cool formatted text right?
or
\u001b[1;40;32mThat's some cool formatted text right?
I think it is no longer supported
earnest phoenix
You need to copy the \u001b character from the mentioned website in the Gist, or just look it up and copy it from a different website
You don't need to copy it for bots, just for yourself
rigid maple
oh thanks now i understand
upper current
Before I dig too far into it, is it possible to make a command to vote for your bot? or do they have to actually go to the website.
earnest phoenix
They have to go to the website
upper current
thanks
winter pasture
Before I dig too far into it, is it possible to make a command to vote for your ...
Yeah they would need to visit the website https://top.gg/bot/735842992002433084/vote
No way to do it in-line
You can then either pull votes by checking if they have voted using https://docs.top.gg/api/bot/#individual-user-vote
Or receiving incoming votes by listening to our webhooks https://docs.top.gg/resources/webhooks/
boreal iron
Yeah they would need to visit the website https://top.gg/bot/735842992002433084/...
nvm
got deleted
upper current
Yeah they would need to visit the website https://top.gg/bot/735842992002433084/...
https://hiekki.me/crjGxeExg doing the webhook now. just didn't know if i could make it easier for the users to just do /vote or not. in the command, you could pull the user ID and obviously the bot's information to send it to the correct place. but since you can't do that, a simple link and threatening asking them nicely to vote is all i can do 🙂
boreal iron
That’s all you can do, yes
upper current
yeah, i gathered that, thanks
earnest phoenix
Just force your users to listen to BTS until they go to the website and vote for the bot
winter pasture
Lol. Some people have voted locked commands or features to incentivise voting. Just make sure the majority of the bot isn’t voted locked xD
split hazel
trying to educate tim is like trying to educate a brick wall
lmao where did that come from
earnest phoenix
Lol. Some people have voted locked commands or features to incentivise voting. J...
Bot developers on their way to vote-lock the help command
upper current
None of it will be locked due to that, lmao.
boreal iron
lmao where did that come from
Older people already know everything
We don’t need to be educated
upper current
However, i do see a blacklist feature coming soon™️ if they don't vote. it's a win/win, really.
boreal iron
Aye
Require administrator permissions then force them to vote or delete one channel every hour
Sounds about right
earnest phoenix
Threaten the users to nuke the server if they don't vote, problem solved
boreal iron
else have a wonderful day; i love you;
Ok Sir, support is over now!
Please pay the invoice we have sent to you or we will delete your server
upper current
!pay theMan already
boreal iron
Support has been going on for 5 mins, means you gotta pay 1 hour
earnest phoenix
FakE with their FakE payment request
upper current
buh duh tss
boreal iron
FakE with their *FakE* payment request
Shhhh i will pay you off if I got the money
upper current
if, clearly he hasn't been paid his dues from his toe pics yet this month
boreal iron
earnest phoenix
**if**, clearly he hasn't been paid his dues from his toe pics yet this month
Leaked OnlyFans?
upper current
if (!toePics) force vote();
if (!vote) force unfriend();
if (unfriend) force block;
exactly
i forgot one
if (blocked) insert 
;
earnest phoenix
upper current
lmao where did that come from
hey, this guy found your brick wall
alright, i got my answer a while back. i'm out. lol. thanks for the entertainment and information
entermation
or infortainment
split hazel
Older people already know everything
talk about operating systems he doesn't know everything
last time I asked him about programming the ACPI I was rather disappointed
earnest phoenix
I'm pretty sure Tim is around his 30s
boreal iron
lmao
boreal iron
I'm pretty sure Tim is around his 30s
That’s what we say to hide our midlife crisis
still storm
Is it possible to change that embed that shows from link using description CSS??
boreal iron
No
indigo kindle
What programming language can I use to code discord bot? Can I use C#?
boreal iron
Is it possible to change that embed that shows from link using description CSS??
That can be done by changing the (HTML) meta tags
still storm
Can you tell me how, me stupid
split hazel
never knew Facebook had its own tag
still storm
Thx
indigo kindle
What programming language can I use to code discord bot? Can I use C#?
stable eagle
What programming language can I use to code discord bot? Can I use C#?
You can use a variety of languages, and yes, also with C#. C# has a library, Discord.NET
split hazel
discord.asm
indigo kindle
You can use a variety of languages, and yes, also with C#. C# has a library, Dis...
Thanks
I thought I can use only Python
Or js
wheat mesa
You can make discord bots with basically any language
indigo kindle
Nice
carmine talon
Can anyone help me with this error?
This is when i write git init on the visual studio terminal :/
vivid fulcrum
...install git?
carmine talon
that's what i thought it was but i have it already installed i guess
pine nova
np
carmine talon
its saying the same after the installation
pine nova
its saying the same after the installation
did u add it to path? ig there is an option to add to path during installation
carmine talon
did u add it to path? ig there is an option to add to path during installation
the path to my bot?
pine nova
no, in the system path variable
carmine talon
yeah it was installed there
pine nova
hmm
try restarting ur computer if that doesnt work idk then or maybe u installed it incorrectly
split hazel
restart it again
eternal osprey
hey guys is it possible to specify am/pm in node-cron?
Like: 9:00am
split hazel
no
lyric mountain
just add 12 when dealing with pm
boreal iron
Imagine not using 24h or the metric system or anything else that’s cool
sage bobcat
What programming language can I use to code discord bot? Can I use C#?
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quartz kindle
but you need glasses to use C# because otherwise you wont be able to C# (see sharp)
overused joke, i know, but im old, i can
pine nova
jovial sparrow
hello
fossil crater
How do you paginate through the /users/@me/guilds endpoint?
Cant seem to find solid documentation
solemn latch
pagination is not needed, discord returns all user guilds on request.
This endpoint returns 200 guilds by default, which is the maximum number of guilds a non-bot user can join. Therefore, pagination is not needed for integrations that need to get a list of the users' guilds.
https://discord.com/developers/docs/resources/user#get-current-user-guilds
unless you're limiting the size, then you'll want to use the after query string
fossil crater
Gotcha, well im hitting the endpoint for the bot user
solemn latch
yeah, I didn't think about that.
you'll want to use the after query string,
the last guild returned from the first page will be what goes in the after query string
for page 2 for example*
fossil crater
I see.
Yeah Im trying to return mutual guild results, filter the nonbot users results with the bot user's results to determine, if the bot is in a guild as well as the user with perms is in the same guild
I guess ill have to figure out how to get the id of the last result and pass as a param in next query
lyric mountain
you could just make an endpoint for ur bot and request guild info from it
fossil crater
Very true....
lyric mountain
that also doubles as an online status checker
if the api stops answering, the bot is off
quartz kindle
are you not running a websocket or you have guild cache disabled?
boreal iron
You know that you need to have some cash on the card to pay bills with it?
Also paying money to Oracle?
Wtf is wrong with you 
split hazel
You know that you need to have some cash on the card to pay bills with it?
BRO I HAVE 1000+ ON IT
split hazel
i changed the quoted reply to this
spark flint
lol
split hazel
but seriously that is the most appalling support i have ever experienced aside from the discord verification process
"yeah something went wrong but we cant tell you what now go away"
pine nova
💀
simple stump
I'm using minecraft-protocol and want to create an "overlay" that get's the chat messages of the current logged in client. I know how to create fake bots, but if the user launches an instance of Minecraft, how can I intercept the packets of that instance rather than create an entirely new one? TLDR, how can I use NodeJS to intercept packets of a currently launched instance of Minecraft?
quartz kindle
and include a letter with your account info
quartz kindle
I'm using minecraft-protocol and want to create an "overlay" that get's the chat...
you need a mod that opens some port or something that another process can listen in
simple stump
you need a mod that opens some port or something that another process can listen...
Yeah I'm using Electron. I've gotten far enough to get the access token of the user once they login and also creating a separate server, but I'm stumped on how to get the packets of the current instance the user has open.
quartz kindle
if the current instance is unmodified, you cant
simple stump
Or wait are you saying that the Minecraft instance needs to listen on the port? Ex. an electron app won't work because it's not Minecraft?
quartz kindle
the new instance is probably modified in some way to allow it
so you need the current instance to also be modified, via a mod or something similar
simple stump
ah ic. so the best solution would be to modify any current instance the user has open via a mod or smth?
simple stump
dang it okay. thanks
simple stump
https://github.com/PrismarineJS/node-minecraft-protocol-forge
oh yeah i havent taken a look at that yet. tysm ill look into this
cloud bough
Hey guys im moving over to slash commands, is this a pretty decent handler for latest d.js? I kind of have a grasp on these but pretty new to the slash commands
Each command looks something like this ```js
module.exports = {
aliases:[],
description:"Play music.",
enabled:true,
name:"play",
avaliability:"global",
options:[
{
name: 'song',
description: 'Song name/url',
required:true,
type: Discord.Constants.ApplicationCommandOptionTypes.STRING
}
],
//Extra Handler
userInVC:true,
botInVC:false,
needsQueue:false,
botPERMS:36751424n,
usrPERMS:0n,
cooldownType:'user',
cooldown: 5,
async execute(interaction) {```
just noticed the spelling mistake also, fixing that
fossil crater
you could just make an endpoint for ur bot and request guild info from it
Got it working with this. Thanks!
lyric mountain
nice
viral spade
Is it true that discord.js is bad when it comes to scaling?
split hazel
send them an envelope with the money by mail
lmao i'll ask them if i can do that
"can i send the dollar via mail?"
lyric mountain
Is it true that discord.js is bad when it comes to scaling?
yes
split hazel
speedyos update: speedyos user namespace now supports async
int data = async<int>(some_long_operation).exec(some_parameter).await().value();
or if you want a solution which does not use await and does not park the thread while it waits:
auto promise = async<int>(some_long_operation).exec(some_parameter);
while (!promise.completed()) {};
int data = promise.value();
thread pool version of async coming soon
you can also cancel promises by calling the destructor (mainly because i cant be bothered to add a dedicated method)
promise.~promise();
but thats quite dangerous since it will abruptly kill the thread which might be in the middle of drawing something or writing some data
woeful pike
scenic kelp
speedyos update: speedyos user namespace now supports async
```cpp
int data = as...
goddamn you're still working on that?
split hazel
goddamn you're still working on that?
yea but not every day anymore
simple stump
Alright I don't really know where to ask this, but I'm creating a proxy between my Electron app and Minecraft. I've gotten pretty far already, but now am just having issues sending packets between the two. My code is pretty simple:
// Once someone logs into the server...
server.on('login', ((client) => {
client.on("connect", (packet) => {
console.log("Client connected.");
const bridge = mc.createClient({
... // Creates a client with the same account details
});
bridge.connect(25565, "play.endran.net"); // private server
bridge.on("connect", () => {
console.log("Bridge connected to the server.");
});
client.on("packet", (packet) => {
bridge.write(packet.name, packet.data);
});
bridge.on("packet", (packet) => {
client.write(packet.name, packet.data);
});
});
});
However, I get a bunch of errors (see the screenshot). Is there a better way to do what I'm doing?
Libraries: electron, minecraft-protocol. I'm coding in NodeJS.
opaque acorn
embeds have been changed in v13?
quartz kindle
Alright I don't really know where to ask this, but I'm creating a proxy between ...
did you console.log packet to see what it is?
on both bridge and client
split hazel
wait can you make a minecraft server in node
if not someone needs to make that
native node
quartz kindle
technically you can, but good luck doing that
quartz kindle
i mean, there are many alternative minecraft servers, like paper, pufferfish, purpur
pretty sure they are open source
split hazel
but nodejs
quartz kindle
so you could remake them in node
split hazel
the legendary
idk why they all write the servers in java
i saw someone wrote a c++ minecraft server but its not complete
perhaps could use that under the hood with node-gyp
cinder patio
Isn't a minecraft server just a TCP server?
quartz kindle
well yes, but it does need to control every aspect of the game
like chunk generation and sync, entities, etc
cinder patio
I'm surprised nobody has made a framework for node.js yet
wheat mesa
probably just too much of a pain
quartz kindle
apparently there is a big difference between java and bedrock editions of the game
such as that even their servers are entirely separate projects
cinder patio
who plays bedrock
lyric mountain
apparently there is a big difference between java and bedrock editions of the ga...
aka "original minecraft" and "bugrock"
cinder patio
and mobile too
split hazel
who plays bedrock
and turks without a pc
lyric mountain
in bugrock there's a common bug where your death is delayed
like, you fall a huge mountain but suffer no damage
cinder patio
I have MC on my PS3 and there are literally no servers 😭
lyric mountain
a few minutes later, you're wandering then suddenly you die
split hazel
one thing they do is they log every single packet that comes through
its filtered by default but still
a lot of overhead
talking about the above project
quartz kindle
a few minutes later, you're wandering then suddenly you die
lmao
that just sounds like packet loss
does it also happen locally/offline?
lyric mountain
it happens specifically offline
quartz kindle
lmao
lyric mountain
there are many other grotesque bugs, but this is one that happen relatively often
lyric mountain
maybe, idk how they did it but they did somehow
also you don't get the best part of minecraft that is modding
quartz kindle
wait can you make a minecraft server in node
have fun https://wiki.vg/Protocol
split hazel
bro this is like the safe version of osdev
doesnt look all that bad at first glance
i might consider a terraria server tho
i see no one attempted to write one yet
but then terraria already has a server written in c# (vanilla) which is good enough
quartz kindle
make a server in rust
split hazel
maybe
im still looking for a good long project to work on in rust
god minecraft has a lot of shit
no wonder java is on life support when playing it on a medium spec pc
lyric mountain
make a server in rust
make a rust server in rust
split hazel
theres also so many objects which are made then destroyed which makes the garbage collection of java a huge performance killer
lyric mountain
theres also so many objects which are made then destroyed which makes the garbag...
that's why stuff like sodium exists
minecraft is like windows
quartz kindle
make a rust server in rust
never played rust
lyric mountain
they have A LOT of legacy code that's strapped with duck tape
quartz kindle
im running a purpur server and a fabric client filled with performance mods lol
lyric mountain
never played rust
don't, it's basically Arc but tenfold toxic
lyric mountain
im running a purpur server and a fabric client filled with performance mods lol
wish I could migrate to fabric, but most mods I use are still in forge
they're slowly moving to fabric tho
quartz kindle
rip
i just start from scratch everytime we decide to play mc again
its like a periodic thing
lel
boreal iron
oof
An old men talking about minecraft
Things are going crazy if I can’t watch you guys
simple stump
did you console.log packet to see what it is?
Yes I believe it’s undefined, but I’ll have to double check.
simple stump
wait can you make a minecraft server in node
There’s some libs for it that are pretty cool. PrismarineJS made Minecraft-protocol and flying-squid
quartz kindle
how tf do i add acid compliance to my db
add a bunch of safety shit to it
split hazel
i already have atomic operations since only one thing can happen at the same time when reading or writing
split hazel
add a bunch of safety shit to it
but how when you are inserting, deleting or updating records?
i know most would use a journal for that
but what would you store in that journal
quartz kindle
for consistency you can try something like checksums before and after writing to confirm that the write succeded
for isolation i guess versioning
for durability also checksumming
quartz kindle
once restarted, the checksum will fail and that write should be cleaned and invalidated
split hazel
my idea would be write some data to the journal, do the operation, remove from journal
quartz kindle
also ^ yes
quartz kindle
but the same should be applied to the journal itself
if it crashes in the middle of writing to the journal
quartz kindle
Minecraft on mobile while driving?
build a minecraft computer to drive for you
split hazel
yeah crashes when writing to journal shouldnt be an issue
boreal iron
boreal iron
Tim always has the best ideas tho
quartz kindle
lmao
quartz kindle
what should i store in the journal when writing/updating?
for updating maybe delta differences are enough
split hazel
for now ima focus on inserting
gets a bit complicated
so if anything happens ima just cancel and revert
thats fine
it gets complicated because i have strings and records in separate files
quartz kindle
i enabled type checking for js in vsc and now all my shit is red
split hazel
should each record contain a checksum
quartz kindle
probably
the journal entry should contain the files affected, and the checksums expected for each one
split hazel
hm ok i have thought of a potential solution now
when inserting, create a checksum of the whole record by adding all the values and strings into the checksum
then write the record location and checksum to the journal
actually no thats unnecessary
as soon as anything is found in the journal it will just clear the affected areas
reset them to nothing
it will step through the record to check for any string pointers and when one is found it will just clear it
quartz kindle
or write a copy of the data itself to the journay, then write to disk, then read from disk, and check if it equals the data written in the journal
split hazel
yeah but wouldnt it be easier to just cancel the entire write if its still present in the journal completed or not
the strings complicate things a lot
quartz kindle
ah also
the journal would need to have a copy of the previous data
so that a rollback is possible
split hazel
yeah thats what i was thinking too since in some occasions i will be overwriting old areas
for example writing a shorter length string to the dedicated string area instead of making a new one
i will probably have two journal files one for strings and one for the record
the journal will probably contain the locations of the affected areas in the actual data file(s) and then a copy of the old record
2x performance decrease but who cares about write perfomance
slow terrace
await schema.findOneAndUpdate({ userID: message.author.id }, { $inc: { quest: +1 } });
Why it's not adding 1 to current?
It's just setting it to 1
quartz kindle
```js
await schema.findOneAndUpdate({ userID: message.author.id }, { $inc: { que...
that query makes no sense for that data stucture?
quests is an array inside the progress object
which quest do you want to increment?
slow terrace
Oh sorry the quest is
let quest = data.progress.quests.find(x => x.id == 4).current;
With the id 4
quartz kindle
so you need to create a query that increments the field "current" for the quest item with id 4, inside the progress object
sick agate
```js
await schema.findOneAndUpdate({ userID: message.author.id }, { $inc: { que...
My first though was it was recognizing +1 as normal 1
slow terrace
My first though was it was recognizing +1 as normal 1
1 not working too
sick agate
Yeah
quartz kindle
the issue is that your query does not specify what you want it to do
sick agate
Yeah
quartz kindle
it cant guess what you want because you didnt specify its inside the progress object, and inside the quests array, and has the id 4, and the field that should be incremented is called "current"
slow terrace
so you need to create a query that increments the field "current" for the quest ...
But when i log the quest variable it logs the number
quartz kindle
that has nothing to do with it?
slow terrace
it cant guess what you want because you didnt specify its inside the progress ob...
Bro this is the full code
const schema = require('../../schema/Economy-Schema')
let data;
try{
data = await schema.findOne({
userID: message.author.id
})
if(!data) {
data = await schema.create({
userID: message.author.id
})
}
} catch(err) {
console.log(err)
}
let quest = data.progress.quests.find(x => x.id == 4).current;
await schema.findOneAndUpdate({ userID: message.author.id }, { $inc: { quest: +1 } });
But i don't see any wrong in it
quartz kindle
i already told you whats wrong lol
await schema.findOneAndUpdate({ userID: message.author.id }, { $inc: { quest: +1 } });
^ this code has no idea that progress exists, that quests exists, that you want the quest item with id 4 and that the value you want to update is called current
"find and update what? object with userID X, yes, but that object does not have a quest field?"
thats what your database is thinking
await schema.findOneAndUpdate({ userID: message.author.id }, { $inc: { quest: +1 } });
^ this code would work if your schema was like this: ```js
{
userID: "...",
quest: 1
}
but your schema is not like that
your schema is like this: ```js
{
userID: "...",
progress: {
quests: [
{ id: 4, current: 1 }
]
}
}
do you understand the difference?
slow terrace
your schema is like this: ```js
{
userID: "...",
progress: {
quests: [
...
But how to make it work with this way?
quartz kindle
you need to build a more specific query
i dont use mongo so i dont know the correct syntax, you need to check the docs
according to the docs you could use a positional operator
slow terrace
i dont use mongo so i dont know the correct syntax, you need to check the docs
Link?
quartz kindle
maybe something like this could work, i dont know ```js
await schema.findOneAndUpdate({ userID: "...", "progress.quests.id": 4 } , { $inc: { "progress.quests.$.current": 1 } });
slow terrace
maybe something like this could work, i dont know ```js
await schema.findOneAndU...
@quartz kindle Yes it's working thank you
Best support 💯 ⭐ 
split hazel
https://www.mongodb.com/docs/manual/reference/operator/update/positional/
speedb better tho
split hazel
bro c++ is confusing me
its calling the destructor for classes in my os in random places
idk if c++ treats using a reference to the class from a method as going out of scope
quartz kindle
split hazel
exec returns a reference to the class itself and i would assume the compiler is smart enough to know it isnt actually going out of scope
sharp geyser
isn't c++ that one language you can do funky things with async?
I saw a snippet of code once where async was used at least 10 times in one line
sharp geyser
im sorry for ur loss
quartz kindle
lmao
sharp geyser
and idk what you mean
I basically saw someone do async async async async async function
split hazel
why tho
sharp geyser
🤷♀️
quartz kindle
public class var {
async async async(async async) => await async;
}
😔
split hazel
idk if c++ treats using a reference to the class from a method as going out of s...
when i put the exec on a line of its own it works fine
sharp geyser
what da fuck
quartz kindle
beats me
split hazel
aight c++ lesson y'all
sharp geyser
beats me
Give me something to read related to programming
I wanna learn and become smarter
dusk vault
day 5 of trying to get banned on this server /s
quartz kindle
Give me something to read related to programming
learn about how messagepack works
sharp geyser
day 5 of trying to get banned on this server /s
we usually wait for day 7 before fulfilling it
dusk vault
lmao
split hazel
// this will be fine and will not call the destructor until the `value` call completes causing defined behaviour
auto task = async<string>(some_long_string_join_operation_function).exec("Speedy").await().value();
// This will unexpectedly destruct early causing undefined behaviour.
auto bad_task = async<string>(some_long_string_join_operation_function).exec("Speedy").await();
// the class has been released and destructed at this point and the below function call will result in undefined behaviour
bad_task.value();
quartz kindle
```cpp
// this will be fine and will not call the destructor until the `value` c...
weird
dusk vault
```cpp
// this will be fine and will not call the destructor until the `value` c...
wow that's actually stupid
split hazel
i think the compiler loses track of whether the class is still in scope or not as soon as you finish the chaining
something like
auto task = async<string>(some_long_string_join_operation_function);
task.exec("Speedy").await().value();
will be fine also
i think i just need to be careful about this behaviour
i wonder if i'll get any compiler warning about this
nope no warning even when all + extra enabled
wheat mesa
why bother with trying to support async like that when you can modify your compiler to support async/await keywords :troll:
split hazel
i'll just ignore that
that is odd
it calls the destructor twice
once after the chaining and second when the function ends
wheat mesa
seems like a funny issue that rust would be good at solving
sharp geyser
you use rust once and instantly become a fan boy
sharp geyser
so was what I said sped
split hazel
clang also has this issue
i would report this except these gcc/clang devs think they're too cool for public collaboration on github and only have public mirrors
so the issue reporting process is hard
earnest phoenix
Hm
slender thistle
because rust is great
You're based
slender thistle
I got bored and looked at php
Dumbass
sharp geyser
pfft
What else to do I have 0 time to work on anything that takes a lot of effort
finals coming up
😔
slender thistle
Work on your finals
sharp geyser
Work on your finals
Is it worth learning how docker works
quartz kindle
Idk what the finals are until the day of the finals
impress them with your amazing knowledge of pokemons
slender thistle
Never had to
sharp geyser
impress them with your amazing knowledge of pokemons
No
Cause idk any pokemons beside Charizard, Pikachu, Squirtle, and that cat one
quartz kindle
meowth thats right
sharp geyser
Ain't no way Perl devs get paid more then everyone else as of 2020 (old report but that is insane to me)
tropic swift
Is anyone working on or planning to work on bots useful to medical students? I'm looking for general biology, A&P, microbiology and the like.
cant seem to find any other than "med-bot" which just links general info from wiki, but does not have full range of specific information.
slender thistle
I highly doubt it
vivid fulcrum
med students don't have the time to chill on discord tbh 🥲
sick agate
Yeah
vivid fulcrum
but it's an original idea anyway, i've yet to see something like that
earnest phoenix
https://discordjs.guide/oauth2/#a-quick-example
i did this example but everytime i click auth button i am getting redirected without access token
solemn latch
https://discordjs.guide/oauth2/#a-quick-example
i did this example but everytime...
Implicit grant or application code grant?
earnest phoenix
Implicit grant or application code grant?
quartz kindle
earnest phoenix
And...?
When i did that it says unauthorized code 40001
earnest phoenix
<!DOCTYPE html>
<html lang="en">
<head>
<meta charset="UTF-8">
<meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=edge">
<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0">
<title>Document</title>
</head>
<body>
<div id="info">Hoi!</div>
<a id="login" style="display: none;"
href="https://discord.com/api/oauth2/authorize?client_id=848292306088230922&redirect_uri=http%3A%2F%2Flocalhost%3A3000%2F&token=code&scope=identify">
Identify Yourself
</a>
<script src="scripts/script.js"></script>
</body>
</html>
window.onload = () => {
const fragment = new URLSearchParams(window.location.hash.slice(1));
console.log(fragment.toString())
const [accessToken, tokenType] = [
fragment.get("access_token"),
fragment.get("token_type"),
];
if (!accessToken) {
alert("Error");
return (document.getElementById("login").style.display = "block");
}
fetch("https://discord.com/api/users/@me", {
headers: {
authorization: `${tokenType} ${accessToken}`,
},
})
.then((result) => result.json())
.then((response) => {
alert(response)
const { username, discriminator } = response;
document.getElementById(
"info"
).innerText += ` ${username}#${discriminator}`;
})
.catch(console.error);
};
where did you get this from?
earnest phoenix
i just replaced response_type with token
near stratus
......
quartz kindle
then why does your code above have &token=code and doesnt have any response_type?
near stratus
then why does your code above have `&token=code` and doesnt have any `response_t...
he replaced "response_type" with "token"
quartz kindle
lmao
near stratus
not response_type=token
opaque acorn
what is happening here?
solemn latch
what is happening here?
What's your folder structure?
solemn latch
Op sorry I didn't scroll down enough ^_^
Looks like you are requiring a directory? I dont think that works.
opaque acorn
Op sorry I didn't scroll down enough ^_^
Looks like you are requiring a directo...
things inside
solemn latch
You're not requiring the things inside, just the directory itself.
vivid fulcrum
playing around with dalle right now
this is so fucking funny
im looking into training the model locally
but my specs are uh
not really up for that
4chan has some leaks
so that's fun
simple stump
I'm trying to create a proxy between two servers using minecraft-protocol. How I achieve this is relatively simple, but now I'm having trouble sending packets to the client. I get the error in Minecraft, "Malformed data: JSON". Code: https://sourceb.in/UdUFo9dt7n
Oh, I'm also working with Minecraft version 1.8 which is why client.write is a bit different from the example on GitHub.
lyric mountain
does someone still play 1.8?
quartz kindle
things inside
you can require a directory if the directory contains an index.js
ie, require("./folder") is a shortcut for require("./folder/index.js")
earnest phoenix
does someone still play 1.8?
1.7.10 and 1.8.9 are the most popular mc versions
i believe
simple stump
yeah
split hazel
im looking into training the model locally
you can also hire some guy to train it for you
you really need powerful gpus to train a model in an okay amount of time
or rent out a Google cloud tpu/gpu
earnest phoenix
changing the status of a bot every 5 minutes
is it allowed or no?
read the pins and it kinda confuses me
ancient nova
changing the status of a bot every 5 minutes
probably not allowed, my bot was always going offline after a couple minutes
split hazel
it sounds like broken code 💀
slender thistle
Exactly
ancient nova
it sounds like broken code 💀
😭 naa
I just had a timeout func and setStatus method inside of it
nothing could possibly be broken
vivid fulcrum
or rent out a Google cloud tpu/gpu
yup, was looking into that
if gcp still has those free credits i might cop them with a new account
since i have a new ccn