yeah
#development
ancient nova
why tf does isNaN check true if the object is empty???????????????
boreal iron
maybe ~~private~~ deleted?
Probably
sudden geyser
why tf does isNaN check true if the object is empty???????????????
does so even if the object has properties
ancient nova
does so even if the object has properties
is NaN = empty = false
is NaN = adahdhaidad = false
is NaN = 2.4 = false
is NaN = 24 = true
is that not how it behaves?
I want to check for the object being a number
sudden geyser
is NaN = adahdhaidad = false
this is true
ancient nova
is there not anything else I can do then?
ancient nova
> is NaN = adahdhaidad = false
this is true
how come???????????
sudden geyser
wdym by checking if it's a number
ancient nova
I'm getting real confused
sudden geyser
can you describe what you're trying to really do
sudden geyser
yes but what do you want it to do
boreal iron
Should work with a non empty array, too
sudden geyser
how about typeof
ancient nova
typeof is better thank you
ancient nova
how about `typeof`
how do I use typeof in an if statement again?
plucky imp
like
sudden geyser
then you can just check if it's === "number"
sudden geyser
yuh
plucky imp
if(typeof_amount === "number") {
}
except lowercase N
ancient nova
aight
ancient nova
heh
sudden geyser
beat you both 
plucky imp
ues
plucky imp
sudden geyser
google and stackoverflow are your best friends
plucky imp
to help me with args
ancient nova
google and stackoverflow are your best friends
I did
I searched
I didn't find anything đ˘
plucky imp
google and stackoverflow are your best friends
even stackoverflow couldn't help
lolll
and the only thing that was wrong
ancient nova
even stackoverflow couldn't help
frl đ˘
sudden geyser
even stackoverflow couldn't help
I mean, I found the solution searching for "js variable is number"
plucky imp
instead of ('||')
sudden geyser
but google has gotten worse recently 
went searching for something last month and all I was getting were referral links to amazon
sudden geyser
show issue
sudden geyser
that does not involve typeof though
ancient nova
yep, but the amount is the thing typeof checked for
sudden geyser
ah
so the condition reads, "(if amount is zero and error is falsely) or there is an error"
what exactly is wrong with the code you shared
ancient nova
basically
plucky imp
bruh
what do you have installed?
like extensions
if you have jslint it can make things break alot
ancient nova
I have a thing, it asks a question
rl.question("how many times? "), async (amount) => {
if (typeof amount === "Number") return; // this just checks if amount is a number.
var Interval = setInterval(() => {
//then I use that to determine when interval stops.
amount -= 1;
console.log(amount);
if (amount === 0) return; //if it hits 0 it stops.
}, 250);
})
```and it worked until I added the typeof check instead of isNaNWHY
ancient nova
if you have jslint it can make things break **alot**
nothing lol, I'm executing it in terminal
plucky imp
hm
plucky imp
sexism?
plucky imp
I have a thing, it asks a question
```js
rl.question("how many times? "), async ...
what is rl again?
earnest phoenix
nah
ancient nova
"bruh" girls be like
what you mean lol
earnest phoenix
what you mean lol
idk myself just it remembered me that I once read somewhere something about bruh girls
sudden geyser
this looks suspect
earnest phoenix
this looks suspect
amogus sus
earnest phoenix
the world's flat
sudden geyser
that return in the setInterval won't work by the way
plucky imp
if (amount === 0) return;
}, 250);
yeah jus noticed it lol
sudden geyser
you'd need to use clearInterval(Interval)
ancient nova
you'd need to use `clearInterval(Interval)`
ik ik I just used that as an example
I sent a screenshot above of what I actually do intead of return
sudden geyser
oh yeah
ancient nova
this
plucky imp
is Interval defined
ancient nova
yep
plucky imp
plucky imp
to confusing for mii
earnest phoenix
klay moment: 𤨠ok
wheat mesa
I have a thing, it asks a question
```js
rl.question("how many times? "), async ...
I use typescript so I donât have these problems, but arenât you supposed to check if(typeof(something) === 'number')?
plucky imp
ancient nova
I use typescript so I donât have these problems, but arenât you supposed to chec...
OMG I
I think so
holy shit
give a sec
wheat mesa
Also just saying, NaN is still technically a number... ironically
ancient nova
const isNumeric = function (_float) {
return /^-?\d+$/.test(_float);
}
I just started getting the REGEX
sudden geyser
oh no
wheat mesa
Wtf why did you make a regex for that????
ancient nova
Also just saying, NaN is still technically a number... ironically
might have to hardcode it to block it
ancient nova
Wtf why did you make a regex for that????
BECAUSE NOTHING ELSE WORKED
sudden geyser
no no no, the typeof is fine
please use something like typeof x === "number" && !isNaN(x)
wheat mesa
Wouldâve taken you a quick 10 second google search or just testing typeof(10) to figure it out instead of looking for an obscure unreadable regex
earnest phoenix
and regex are not the fastest way
ancient nova
Wouldâve taken you a quick 10 second google search or just testing `typeof(10)` ...
I actually have least 3 regex functions in my script right now just cause I couldn't find anything else
wheat mesa
Regex is very slow in comparison to a quick type check yeah
I avoid regex at all costs personally
ancient nova
holy shit it worked
wheat mesa
If youâre using regex a lot, the probability is that youâre likely doing something wrong
ancient nova
you're amazing @wheat mesa
ancient nova
If youâre using regex a lot, the probability is that youâre likely doing somethi...
yeah 100% lol
wheat mesa
Regex is good in some situations but it can be avoided most of the time
ancient nova
my longest regex is prolly the IP check
/^(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)$/
ancient nova
it works so who am I to complain lol
sudden geyser
imb4 someone suggests you write your own ip compiler
wheat mesa
I mean you could use that or you could split by dots and try to parse them as valid numbers 
But regex is probably fine for that
sudden geyser
yeah now have fun figuring out what numbers make sense there
wheat mesa
Regex is perfectly fine for that use case
ancient nova
I mean you could use that or you could split by dots and try to parse them as va...
I feel like that would be harder to do than it was to do using regex
ancient nova
Regex is perfectly fine for that use case
my worst regex use? prolly an ip correction thingy
sudden geyser
you should see some email validators
sudden geyser
saw one that was 170k characters long
ancient nova
ayooo
wheat mesa
it corrects IPs from like 1..1..1....1 to 1.1.1.1
That... is also probably not the right use case for that
ancient nova
That... is also probably not the right use case for that
plus it looks... rather
not nice
wheat mesa
I have not seen a ânice lookingâ regex in my life
ancient nova
I have not seen a ânice lookingâ regex in my life
I mean you can make it look good
I could shoot you can example
if I find it
sudden geyser
I have not seen a ânice lookingâ regex in my life
How about (?:--?(\w+)(?:=(?:(\w+)|"(.+?)"))?)
ancient nova
also how would I make a range check? if value is less than 250 and larger than 5000 for example
ancient nova
How about `(?:--?(\w+)(?:=(?:(\w+)|"(.+?)"))?) `
ah yes, regex
wheat mesa
also how would I make a range check? if value is less than 250 and larger than 5...
Less than 250 in length or as a value
ancient nova
as a value
wheat mesa
Just do a simple of check
lament rock
in regex?
wheat mesa
If*
Also your sentence doesnât make sense actually
Less than 250 AND larger than 5000 isnât possible
dry imp
lmao
ancient nova
Also your sentence doesnât make sense actually
how come?
if value is less than 250 don't execute, and if it's larger than 5000 also don't execute
also found some rather nicely readable regex, it's neat if you sort it
wheat mesa
You said AND not OR
ancient nova
You said AND not OR
my bad
wheat mesa
Important distinction to make :p
Just do exactly as you said
if(value < 250 || value > 5000) return;
ancient nova
Important distinction to make :p
I'm pretty braindead today
lament rock
I have not seen a ânice lookingâ regex in my life
/((?:.[\w_.<>]*)? ?(?:.[\w_.<>]*)? ?\[(?:as)? ?(?:.[\w_.<>]*)\])? ?\(([^*?"<>]*):(\d+):(\d+)\)/
this regex is to pick apart an error stack frame
well. A specific frame
ancient nova
this regex is to pick apart an error stack frame
I've seen worse
lament rock
I bet
sudden geyser
github keeps recommending me node-ipc and peacenotwar in the explore tab
I think this is a sign
austere surge
what
plucky imp
github keeps recommending me node-ipc and peacenotwar in the explore tab
would you rather use
ESLint or Jslint
sudden geyser
ESLint since I'm more familiar with it
Maybe JSHint if I learned about it
But ESLint has a lot more knobs and stuff so it's attractive
plucky imp
ty
sudden geyser
either one probably works
wheat mesa
I feel like those frameworks werenât really designed with ts in mind at first so it might be finicky
But Iâll look into it
I was about to set up my pc but tornado sirens are going off so I suppose Iâm gonna have to delay that 
plucky imp
@sudden geyser any good bottums name?
sudden geyser
what's the bot's subject
plucky imp
probably gonna make it an economy one or like gacha
spark flint
<@!345539839393005579> any good bottums name?
moodae - a cow parody of mudae
sudden geyser
probably gonna make it an economy one or like gacha
then how about treasure since that's an actual name
plucky imp
hMMM
sudden geyser
or you could just flip open the reliable greek dictionary, flip to a random page, and look up a word in there
sudden geyser
emeraldas
sudden geyser
good candidate 
dry imp
Hakos
dry imp
or you could just flip open the reliable greek dictionary, flip to a random page...
this is true for real lmao
dry imp
why greek word sounds so cool
woeful pike
ÎşĎ Î˛ÎľĎνΎĎΡĎ
sudden geyser
kubepvntns
I don't know about you, but I'd take that bot name before anyone else does
pearl trail
kubernetesâ˘ď¸
quartz kindle
kubepvntns best name
maiden swan
anyone know why Slash commands wouldnt show up after an hour in a non guild_ids server? I invited my bot with Application Commands scope as well and it still hasnt appeared
alright. Just tested and im getting 0 errors when i push my code. I reinvited so now ill just wait a bit
wheat mesa
is there a way to make webstorm format automatically/on save or do I have to use prettier like I would normally do on vscode
boreal iron
alright. Just tested and im getting 0 errors when i push my code. I reinvited so...
Did you even push them globally?
Not accidentally to a guild?
bright hornet
How do i get image using axios? res.image is enough right?
plucky imp
abcdefghijklmopqrstuvwxyz
maiden swan
Did you even push them globally?
Not accidentally to a guild?
I think so? isnt that just if you dont include a scope?
nvm that helped me. I figured out what i did wrong
wheat mesa
How do i get image using axios? res.image is enough right?
depends on what you want to do with it, seems to me like the image prop on that is just a url
actually sending a curl request to that url seems to give the binary data back
boreal iron
nvm that helped me. I figured out what i did wrong
Alright
The invitation scope doesnât differentiate between global and guild commands
Thatâs just up to you how you register them
bright hornet
curl?
quartz kindle
defense curl
neat ingot
iron defence is much stronger.
quartz kindle
instead of axios, im going to use curl?
curl is a linux command line program
proven lantern
is there a good way to write integration tests for discord bots?
bright hornet
curl is a linux command line program
because i was trying to get the image using axios, but nothing happens
lyric mountain
is there a good way to write integration tests for discord bots?
We have junit
Idk what for js
quartz kindle
because i was trying to get the image using axios, but nothing happens
what is the url you are fetching with axios?
bright hornet
what is the url you are fetching with axios?
this is how i do ```js
Axios.get('https://randomfox.ca/floof/?ref=apilist.fun')
.then((res) => {
const embed = new MessageEmbed()
.setTitle('FOXY!')
.setImage(res.image)
.setColor('RANDOM')
.setTimestamp()
message.channel.send({embeds: [embed]})
})```
i have a fancy pipeline now. it wants unit tests and integration tests
quartz kindle
this is how i do ```js
Axios.get('https://randomfox.ca/floof/?ref=apilist.fun')
...
does axios return json by default?
if so that should work
lyric mountain
i have a fancy pipeline now. it wants unit tests and integration tests
Don't think u can do that for a discord bot
Since it depends on user interaction not just some automated tests
quartz kindle
its strange cause the embed not showing
console.log res and see
and read axios docs
bright hornet
okok
proven lantern
i was thinking i could save a request and send that to my interaction endpoint, but i dont think that works if i'm logged out
or the security token thing will expire
lyric mountain
Fill it with unit tests, they'll be pretty enough to assert it's working properly
Since commands are isolated by definition
proven lantern
then i shouldn't really have an integration environment
bright hornet
console.log res and see
console.log not showing too
proven lantern
straight to prod
lyric mountain
Ye, integration tests feel weird for discord
lyric mountain
Just make sure all commands and modules are working (unit tests)
If all pass you're dog
bright hornet
let RN = Math.floor(Math.random() * 100) - 1
if(RN > 25) {
} else if(RN > 50) {
} else if(RN > 75) {
} else {
}``` is this right or nayou should work backwords
if(RN > 75) {
} else if(RN > 50) {
} else if(RN > 25) {
} else {
}
oh
neat ingot
what you have would return the first check anytime over 25, even if 50 or 75
bright hornet
i see isee thanks
neat ingot
no worries đ
rocky hearth
What is this code in md files
---
lang: JavaScript
syntax: javascript
title: JavaScript is to Java what Cupboard is to Cup!
author: umng01
---
What that block is called?
wheat mesa
How do I get an electron app to log to the WebStorm console instead of the application's devtools console?
neat ingot
why webstorm?
neat ingot
fair enough. if you use most of the technologies it supports
wheat mesa
I usually use vscode for stuff like this, but I wanted to give webstorm another chance
neat ingot
yea, it doesnt look bad. i hadnt heard of it before đ
wheat mesa
the only problem being my console in devtools keeps getting overwritten which means I can't see my logs
wheat mesa
well, the electron app is logging to its own devtools window
but there's a warning about a security issue (that I don't care about at the moment) that keeps overwriting whatever I log to the console
I can see the data pop up for a brief moment, then disappear in the console
neat ingot
not sure if it will help, but you could do this:
const {createWriteStream} = require('fs');
const {Console} = console;
// new FileTransport({filename, options});
class FileTransport extends Console {
constructor(file_options) {
const {filename="", options={}} = file_options;
const log_stream = createWriteStream(filename, options);
super({stdout: log_stream, stderr: log_stream});
}
}
to create an instance of a custom 'console like' object, that you can do 'console.log' etc with, that will save the output to a file
wheat mesa
I might resort to that if I absolutely have to, but I'd prefer to use the built in console if possible
wheat mesa
here's a gif of what it's doing
you can see the console get rewritten
it's supposed to be logging the form
wheat mesa
which I've seen it do a few times, it just gets pretty much immediately overwritten
ah
wheat mesa
how would one cancel said event
I never really do frontend but I'm hoping electron can get me more into it
neat ingot
function logSubmit(event) {
log.textContent = `Form Submitted! Time stamp: ${event.timeStamp}`;
event.preventDefault();
}
const form = document.getElementById('form');
const log = document.getElementById('log');
form.addEventListener('submit', logSubmit);
<form id="form">
<label>Test field: <input type="text"></label>
<br><br>
<button type="submit">Submit form</button>
</form>
<p id="log"></p>
^ html for that js
neat ingot
I never really do frontend but I'm hoping electron can get me more into it
electron-forge is a nice package
it basically handles the build/install/updating etc etc
wheat mesa
using preventDefault and now it logs, thanks!
neat ingot
yay! no worries đ
i added a markdown -> html converter to help make a help page quickly
but now i have an easy way to load child windows that show markdown ~ which is nice
cloud bough
For some reason, presence doesn't work on my ubuntu server?
wheat mesa
what type of presence
wheat mesa
for your account or a bot account
cloud bough
bot account
wheat mesa
can't do that
cloud bough
dnd works itself
cloud bough
yeah
neat ingot
getting someone elses info or setting your own?
wheat mesa
nvm then
cloud bough
like luca
wheat mesa
you get any errors?
wheat mesa
and can you show your code
cloud bough
sure one sec
wheat mesa
you might be trying to set it too quickly if you're changing it a lot
but that would trigger a ratelimit error so you'd probably notice that
cloud bough
module.exports = async (Bot) => {
games = Bot.config.presence.games
setInterval(function() {
game = games[Math.floor(Math.random() * games.length)]
presence = {
"status":Bot.config.presence.status,
"activity": {
"type":game.type,
"name":`${game.name} | ${Bot.guilds.cache.size} Servers.`
}
}
Bot.user.setPresence(presence)
}, 30000)
}```node.js still accepts them
wheat mesa
use a declaration like let
craggy pine
games = Bot.config.presence.games
cloud bough
and it works on windows
Games is an array, with objects in it
like this
[{"type":"WATCHING", "name":"jj2neat!"}]
wheat mesa
// Set the client user's presence
client.user.setPresence({ activities: [{ name: 'with discord.js' }], status: 'idle' });
don't think so, and just because nodejs accepts it doesn't mean you should get into a habit of that btw :p
you should ALWAYS declare variables with one of those keywords
neat ingot
always const unless you need let ~ imo
wheat mesa
^
cloud bough
^^^
I got into the habit of that months ago
but I coded this little module about a year ago on v11
neat ingot
var if your a heathen who likes to live on the dark side đ
cloud bough
or v12
wheat mesa
there are some very niche use cases for var
neat ingot
blasphemy!
cloud bough
does var use more ram then let?
cloud bough
and yeah I figured that out when I had multiple games running on my bot
cloud bough
what about huge database objects
neat ingot
function roughSizeOfObject( object ) {
var objectList = [];
var stack = [ object ];
var bytes = 0;
while ( stack.length ) {
var value = stack.pop();
if ( typeof value === 'boolean' ) {
bytes += 4;
}
else if ( typeof value === 'string' ) {
bytes += value.length * 2;
}
else if ( typeof value === 'number' ) {
bytes += 8;
}
else if
(
typeof value === 'object'
&& objectList.indexOf( value ) === -1
)
{
objectList.push( value );
for( var i in value ) {
stack.push( value[ i ] );
}
}
}
return bytes;
}```^ code to get the rough size of an object
src: https://stackoverflow.com/a/11900218
cloud bough
ew var
wheat mesa
an example of why var is bad btw:
neat ingot
yup
wheat mesa
compared to let
cloud bough
the bad thing is var in message listeners
neat ingot
^ this imo
wheat mesa
that's why that array got null in it
neat ingot
you should never be able to access a variable before its declared
wheat mesa
whereas if you used let you would find that pretty quickly, since it would error
wheat mesa
not that I know of
it's still bad practice in 99/100 cases
it's also function scoped compared to let's block scope
neat ingot
// WITH VAR
console.time("var-time")
for(var i = 0; i < 500000; i++){}
console.timeEnd("var-time")
// WITH LET
console.time("let-time")
for(let i = 0; i < 500000; i++){}
console.timeEnd("let-time")
cloud bough
var-time: 2.521ms
let-time: 1.633ms
wheat mesa
thing when using let would be limited to the block scope it's in
neat ingot
lol thats hax
wheat mesa
```js
// WITH VAR
console.time("var-time")
for(var i = 0; i < 500000; i++){}
con...
probably not the greatest way to measure performance tbh
cloud bough
as its a loop
neat ingot
indeed, but it shows that var is indeed slower
wheat mesa
although var seems to be consistently slower on my machine too
neat ingot
https://stackoverflow.com/a/40070682
decent writeup there on the differences etc
wheat mesa
not really surprised, it's older and hasn't been changed all that much
cloud bough
I mean it makes sense from the interpreter
wheat mesa
I'm not an expert on interpreters or the implementation of v8, but in theory you would think it's fundamentally the same thing
it's likely because it has to be allocated for longer since it's hoisted to function scope
neat ingot
seems like a reasonable assumption
neat ingot
there could have also been some additional performance improvements made that for some bacckwords compatibility reason var cannot have
wheat mesa
also an interesting difference, but small enough to be explained by differences in system processes
after a few tests it seems like let is very very slightly faster
I'd need more data to make an actual assertion though
and a better testing method
more stable environment
etc
neat ingot
i wonder if for looping down instead of up is still faster
cloud bough
javascript has some weird quirks when it comes to speed
neat ingot
for (let index = array.length; index; index--) {
const element = array[index];
}
for example
wheat mesa
I don't think so but I could be wrong
from an interpreter standpoint I would think that they both use while loops internally
neat ingot
// WITH VAR
console.time("for-up")
for(var i = 0; i < 500000; i++){}
console.timeEnd("for-up")
// WITH LET
console.time("for-down")
for(let i = 500000; i; i--){}
console.timeEnd("for-down")```oh fml, still var there
wheat mesa
lol
cloud bough
you should try for and while
wheat mesa
const arr = Array(50000000);
console.time('up');
for (let i = 0; i < arr.length; i++) {
}
console.timeEnd('up');
console.time('down');
for (let i = arr.length; i; i--) {
}
console.timeEnd('down');
results when arr has 5000000 elements: ```
up: 4.093ms
down: 3.16ms
results when arr has 50000000 elements: ```
up: 20.957ms
down: 20.291ms
wheat mesa
seems to be more negligible with the more loops that are done
neat ingot
yea thats what im seeing too
wheat mesa
in reality it's not gonna affect it much
neat ingot
yea, considering were all using discord.js anyway 
cloud bough
lmao
quartz kindle
there should be zero difference between those
wheat mesa
it's probably the environment
quartz kindle
you're likely just seeing v8 being quirky
neat ingot
theres a clear difference between for/while/do-while though
wheat mesa
also this is probably just a fluke but prefix is consistently faster on my machine ```js
const arr = Array(500000);
console.time('suffix');
for (let i = 0; i < arr.length; i++) {
}
console.timeEnd('suffix');
console.time('prefix');
for (let i = 0; i < arr.length; ++i) {
}
console.timeEnd('prefix');
suffix: 2.433ms
prefix: 1.512ms
faster on mine too
wheat mesa
but again the difference fades with more loops
it's probably something weird with the timing tbh
neat ingot
its close though
yours seems to have a wider range
oh, it was slower that time! đŽ
lol
neat ingot
lmao, well, moral of the story: do more loops?
wheat mesa
const arr = Array(500000);
console.time('loop-1');
for (let i = 0; i < arr.length; ++i) {
}
console.timeEnd('loop-1');
console.time('loop-2');
for (let i = 0; i < arr.length; i++) {
}
console.timeEnd('loop-2');
loop-1: 2.323ms
loop-2: 1.549ms
const arr = Array(500000);
console.time('loop-1');
for (let i = 0; i < arr.length; i++) {
}
console.timeEnd('loop-1');
console.time('loop-2');
for (let i = 0; i < arr.length; ++i) {
}
console.timeEnd('loop-2');
loop-1: 2.356ms
loop-2: 1.537ms
it's just the environment
craggy pine
what does ++i vs i++ do exactly
neat ingot
yea same, second loops faster here
wheat mesa
nothing in js
craggy pine
ah
neat ingot
++ increments. either before, or after you read the value
wheat mesa
iirc in c++ ++i mutates the reference to i but i++ creates a copy of i and then mutates it
neat ingot
let value = 1;
console.log(value++);
console.log(--value);```Both log 1
```js
let value = 1;
console.log(value++);
console.log(++value);
```First logs 1
Second logs 3
(for c++)
once the code is compiled to asm there's no difference though
in terms of performance
Canât wait to get into more complex performance stuff
cloud bough
what about creating a copy of an array
wheat mesa
I love this type of thing, just havenât learned enough about it to be knowledgeable
wheat mesa
Iâm not sure if js takes arrays by reference or copies
I would assume it creates a copy because... itâs js
cloud bough
reference
wheat mesa
Are js references similar to Java
cloud bough
its very weird, tried making a connect4 ai and it was like
let arr1 = ["test1"]
for() {
let copy = arr1
copy.push("test2");
}
Where everything but primitives is âpass by referenceâ
cloud bough
arr1 includes test1 and test2
wheat mesa
(Though technically Java is ALWAYS pass by value)
neat ingot
Where everything but primitives is âpass by referenceâ
im sure this is the case yea
could be wrong đ
cloud bough
Im not very technical in javascript, but I do know my way around a workplace, classes functions objects and more stuff like that
wheat mesa
All of my formal education is in Java
cloud bough
theres tricks that I pick up on but ive never really learned the most efficent ways of doing things
wheat mesa
Iâve never really looked into the way js handles references and that sort of thing
Ok so from what Iâve gathered on a quick search, all primitives are assign by value, and objects/arrays are assign by reference
So pretty similar to Java
cloud bough
I really wanted to learn java but it just seems complicated
especially because I started in javascript
just very.. different..?
wheat mesa
Java isnât that hard tbh
cloud bough
I use javascript and python, did abit of ruby
wheat mesa
Itâs definitely gonna be different if youâre not used to OOP and statically typed languages
earnest phoenix
wheat mesa
But itâs an oddly satisfying structured harmony
I used to hate Java but I actually quite like it now
neat ingot
$ruby.is_a?(Object) {|oriented| language }```
^ prints truebest line of ruby code ever!
that line literally won some ruby code contest in 2013 lol
i've been in awe of it since đ
cloud bough
Is it kinda like discord.js in a way
wheat mesa
I really wanted to learn java but it just seems complicated
Bottom line, I would definitely recommend it
cloud bough
like how the objects work?
wheat mesa
Objects are everything in Java
cloud bough
and classes im assuming
wheat mesa
Yes, classes are skeletons for objects
Or factories of objects would be another decent comparison
People bag on Java a lot (cough cough fake) but itâs honestly a great language to learn
Extremely useful, easy to learn, and teaches a lot about programming concepts
Enforces organized code (most of the time at least)
cloud bough
and faster id assume then javascript
wheat mesa
Depends on what it is
cloud bough
and more powerful
wheat mesa
V8 is really fast
Java is mostly faster than js just because itâs (mostly) compiled
But I wouldnât necessarily say itâs more powerful than js, thereâs pros and cons compared to an interpreted language
Though Java is sort of interpreted
cloud bough
okay
wheat mesa
Nodejs uses bytecode technically right?
quartz kindle
nodejs uses v8, the same engine as chrome/chromium/webkit
v8 uses multiple different compilers depending on the situation
wheat mesa
Ah okay
wheat mesa
Itâs possible but I think youâd lose your mind before actually getting close
quartz kindle
wheat mesa
All ends up as bytecode either way according to that
quartz kindle
you dont really "compile to assembly"
wheat mesa
Well, they generate assembly
quartz kindle
assembly is just a way of representing bytecode
cloud bough
c++ looks way more complicated then java and js
wheat mesa
It is
wheat mesa
Thereâs a lot less lenience in C/C++ than there is in Java and Js
But once you know how to use it, itâs a pretty nice language
Especially considering the speed
quartz kindle
who would ever use it
every language has its purpose
you use the best tool for the job
wheat mesa
C and C++ are the kings of most modern programming languages
Theyâre used basically everywhere you could think of
wheat mesa
V8 is written in C++
wheat mesa
Windows is probably a mix of asm, C, and C++
quartz kindle
same with lots of parts of linux and mac
wheat mesa
C++ is basically the best trade off between low level code and sanity
quartz kindle
large software is made up of lots of smaller components
windows is not one big thing, its a mix of thousands of small things
each thing can be done by different teams and people
and also different languages depending on the situation
cloud bough
im guessing c++ is natively installed on win
wheat mesa
Writing a large performance critical program with a few hundred thousand lines of assembly? Nope. Use C++ and save yourself some sanity
quartz kindle
im guessing c++ is natively installed on win
not really afaik
to compile c++ on windows you need to install a compiler like cmake or visual studio tools
wheat mesa
I donât think thereâs a native C++ compiler on windows yeah
The OS itself is already compiled and ready to go so thereâs no real âneedâ for a compiler to be natively installed
Since 99% of people wonât ever use it
quartz kindle
yeah even on linux
most linuxes do include stuff like gcc, but you likely still have to install build tools to be able to compile stuff
quartz kindle
c# is pretty popular for discord bots
wheat mesa
Itâs a very good choice for bots
quartz kindle
not as much as python and js tho
wheat mesa
Itâs more in depth though
austere surge
c# is pretty popular for discord bots
i rarely hear about it
wheat mesa
Since C# async/await is a bit more complex than js and py
Iâd say itâs probably the 4th most popular choice for discord bots, behind js, py, and Java
quartz kindle
C# is pretty much the best choice for writing software to run on windows
C# + dotnet
wheat mesa
Made for Windows by Windows
Itâs got all the tooling youâll ever need for windows software
quartz kindle
ever wondered why 90% of games out there require you to install vcredist/dotnet/etc
wheat mesa
C# is also a really popular game development language
austere surge
unity
austere surge
what does UE use
wheat mesa
C++
austere surge
ok
wheat mesa
Most competitive games use mostly C++ for their games due to the performance being critical
But indie games in particular are largely made in C#/Unity
Stardew Valley was made in a mix of a custom game engine and Unity with C# by one dev
Really impressive
wheat mesa
Good games that are made singlehandedly never failed to impress me once I figured out how difficult the process was
quartz kindle
also, zun
wheat mesa
Before I started programming I would probably take a look at stardew valley and be like âThat doesnât look like itâs that hardâ, but now I realize the amount of depth, complexity, and thought that was put into that game to make it a masterpiece
quartz kindle
all hail zun
wheat mesa
lol
quartz kindle
yeah, cant talk about this without mentioning him
dude made an entire game series with 10+ games by himself
austere surge
wow
wheat mesa
Thatâs insane
quartz kindle
and composed all the music by himself as well
quartz kindle
Since 1995,[1][2] the team's member, Jun'ya "ZUN" Ĺta, has independently developed programming, graphics, writing, and music for the series, self-publishing 18 mainline games and five spin-offs as of May 2021
wheat mesa
I think it was 3 people, one dev, one music, one art
austere surge
18 wow
wheat mesa
But I could be wrong
wheat mesa
Oh nevermind it was just Toby Fox in the beginning of undertale
quartz kindle
while the west is busy partying and drinking, asians are working on their dreams and goals 24/7 for decades nonstop
wheat mesa
Yup
Thereâs big cultural differences between western culture and Asian culture that contribute to things like that
Anyways though, Iâm gonna catch some sleep before I have to wake up in 5 hours. Thanks for the conversation, it was really interesting
earnest phoenix
if user want to execute warn command what's the permission required? MANAGE_MESSAGES or MODERATE_MEMBERS?
rocky hearth
I want to make some contribution for a github public repo.
I directly cloned that repo, without forking it first.
Now I had already made many changes.
But cant push it.
What do i do?
Is it possible to fork it now, and change the remote on my machine?
civic scroll
> Since 1995,[1][2] the team's member, Jun'ya "ZUN" Ĺta, has independently devel...
i hope one day i will be able to reach that level
civic scroll
Is it possible to fork it now, and change the remote on my machine?
yes
civic scroll
if user want to execute warn command what's the permission required? `MANAGE_MES...
recommended: moderate
you can try role-based action commands
woeful pike
while the west is busy partying and drinking, asians are working on their dreams...
man cmon don't play into that model minority stuff. That's a harmful stereotype 
split hazel
man cmon don't play into that model minority stuff. That's a harmful stereotype ...
so you're saying bros wrong?
earnest phoenix
Hi guys,
I need a bot which assign automatically a role by holding specific tokens in BSC
spark flint
Hi guys,
I need a bot which assign automatically a role by holding specific tok...
I believe theres a good bot for that
called Grape
earnest phoenix
called Grape
do you have a link for that? there is alot of Grape bot out of here
bright hornet
How do i get the message.URL of the embed and post it to MessageEmbed?
.setDescription(`Your suggestion posted in **[Suggestion Channel](${msg.url})**`)``` gives me error
```js
Scheme "null" is not supported. Scheme must be one of ('http', 'https').```https://grapes.network/ i believe
we use it in a server i mod
earnest phoenix
https://grapes.network/ i believe
completely wrong link. this is just grape network seems
bright hornet
https://grapes.network/ i believe
this is the nicest website ive seen so far ngl
pulsar bone
whats this error covering the entirety of my console
boreal iron
How do i get the message.URL of the embed and post it to MessageEmbed?
```js
.s...
The var message you mentioned and the one I see in your code are different
Is that supposed to be like that?
message.url is not msg.url
civic scroll
How do i get the message.URL of the embed and post it to MessageEmbed?
```js
.s...
property url of msg is null
atomic kindle
Cloudflare ban
pulsar bone
what is this
i am asking the same thing
civic scroll
whats this error covering the entirety of my console
HTTP 429 error: skill issue: you didn't throttle network and do request everytime the program is refreshed, and now you are rate limited
dry imp
or u use replit
civic scroll
man literally copied the whole html in F12
civic scroll
or u use replit
that's exactly what happened
dry imp
i mean you can always kill 1 
atomic kindle
Not Replit i guess
split hazel
whats this error covering the entirety of my console
thanks for the html bro I needed a template for my website
dry imp
thanks for the html bro I needed a template for my website
lmfao
atomic kindle
Context missing.
pulsar bone
i mean you can always `kill 1` <:troll:945379443508150363>
can i automate replit to auto kill 1 on error
dry imp
dk
civic scroll
assume lib "discord.js"
assume lang js
define async fn onMessage(message: DiscordJSMessage)
get message.Mentions.Roles.First -> roleId
await call discordFetch(guildId) -> data
data.users filter (roles in user has roleId) foreach user:
call sendMessage(user.name)
"i use python"
dry imp
u always give pseudocode
civic scroll
lemme fix
split hazel
```sayuri-pseudocode
assume lib "discord.js"
assume lang js
define async fn onM...
Bro this ain't rust change that fn to function right now
civic scroll
define async function onMessage(message: DiscordMessage)
get message.Mentions.Roles.First -> roleId
await call discordFetch(guildId) -> data
data.users filter (roles in user has roleId) foreach user:
call sendMessage(user.name)
when command.IsUsed -> call oneMessage(...params)
@earnest phoenix
ig they gave up because my code is unintelligible
spark flint
i'm making a login system and I need to be able to lookup users based on their email or username
how can i basically combine await accounts.findOne({ email:req.body.email }) and await accounts.findOne({ username:req.body.username }) into one statement?
i want to check if **either **the users username or email exists in the db
pearl trail
afaik you can do that in one obj,
findOne({email, username})
civic scroll
isn't that find both?
split hazel
yeah both
civic scroll
i want to check if **either **the users username or email exists in the db
you can try existOne
for each condition
wait lemme lookup api docs
pearl trail
guess im wrong in understanding her question
spark flint
afaik you can do that in one obj,
`findOne({email, username})`
i wanna find either one or the other
login page with allow either usernames or emails
spark flint
alrighty
civic scroll
take the latest one
but you will have to implement in your language with whichever library you are using
quartz kindle
man cmon don't play into that model minority stuff. That's a harmful stereotype ...
lel sorry, you're right
spark flint
@oak cliff -needdev
oak cliff
-needdev
gilded plankBOT
spark flint
@wide widget ^
dry imp
cloud bough
Hey, I'm aware that discord is moving to slash commands in april
wide widget
python
cloud bough
How do you think that they're gonna inforce it? And not break let's say leveling bots in the process
cloud bough
How would you get message intent
wide widget
pls help
cloud bough
đ discord api
wide widget
it is music bot like rythm
lyric mountain
lyric mountain
oh god
simple stump
File "main.py", line 7
for i in range{len{cogs{)]
^
Syntax...
You have an invalid syntax. Also Python đ
lyric mountain
in what kind of mind state did you think { and ( are the same thing?
lyric mountain
range{len{cogs{)]
wide widget
can you fix
lyric mountain
idk what to say, how did you reach such point?
I mean, it wasn't by copying probably
your issue is that you mixed ( and {
do you know how programming works or is this your first time?
@wide widget I won't go and fix it for you, you'll be doing that yourself
marble juniper
What is yall favorite programming language
spark flint
No language / library wars - anyone involved will be muted.
careful
we will get topgged
radiant kraken
What is yall favorite programming language
Assembly x86
lyric mountain
What is yall favorite programming language
english
radiant kraken
we will get topgged
you will get topgged instead for minimodding
spark flint
lol
radiant kraken
code
wheat mesa
<:topggDotRed:921606879107502130> No language / library wars - anyone involved w...
nobody ever gets punished for that anyways
earnest phoenix
Hi, i am looking for a bot verifying NFT holders of BEP 1155 on Binance smart chain (similar to collab.land). Is there an existing solution?
boreal iron
nobody ever gets punished for that anyways
aye... that's like 50% of this channel anyways
lyric mountain
Hi, i am looking for a bot verifying NFT holders of BEP 1155 on Binance smart ch...
what
don't think there's a bot for that
but you could try using the search bar on top.gg
cloud bough
is it possible to transfer an advanced command handler with cooldowns, and all sorts of permission checks like botInVC and isEnabled
to slash commands
and is there any reasonable resources where I can learn more on implementing them, because it seems very very different
needing to build a slash command like an embed
boreal iron
Well the handling of slash command responses isn't different, at least code wise
You just need to use the proper methods and need to add slash command registration/removal to your handler
boreal iron
Of course, that's why you register them
boreal iron
They will fail if you don't respond properly
boreal iron
so before it shuts down I should remove them
Oh god, no!
Deploying global slash commands can take up to an hour or more to be pushed to all guilds
cloud bough
oh god
boreal iron
There's no need to remove them
cloud bough
what if you remove the command all together
should I make a command like /remove global command "play"
or something
boreal iron
If you have the bot scope (an active gateway connection) your app will be shown as offline and users will receive a "interaction failed, didn't respond" eroor
cloud bough
discord just had to make this change
this gonna make lots of ppl stop coding bots lmao
boreal iron
Nope, this is actually way better than a gateway connection
cloud bough
Yeah im not really sure about the backend of d.js
but I'd assume the gateway connection is where the heartbeat is
boreal iron
Interaction (like slash commands) will actually send a request to your endpoint, don't require a gateway connection, either you answer to the request or not (interaction failed)
cloud bough
okay
boreal iron
so they're completely shutting down the gateway
No they don't
You can still use the scope bot
and/or application-commands
cloud bough
so a command like /add global command "name" and /rem global command "name"
is a must
for stuff like that
boreal iron
I don't see any sense
cloud bough
what if you add more guilds
boreal iron
You register the commands in your code once
They are deployed after anywhere
At any time
cloud bough
yes, but if your in the middle of coding something
boreal iron
Until you remove them again
cloud bough
and you decided to delete lets say an 8ball command from your code
Im sorry im trying to wrap my head around these new methods
boreal iron
You can deploy guild commands (only available in a guild of your choice) to develop and test commands, then deploy them globally
boreal iron
When using common commands in modules you can also add properties let's say to deploy a command in one guild
If you don't need a command anymore you delete it, yes
cloud bough
okay
cloud bough
so basically just like a regular command handler, but you also want to load the commands one time
like:
cmds.map((cmd) => {
build slash command here
});```An example:
This would only be deployed to guild X
Requiring permissions Y
My command handler will register them once the bots start OR update (if needed) if they are already registered
cloud bough
so like in the ready event
boreal iron
Once guilds are null in my case, the command will be deployed globally
cloud bough
okay thats cool
boreal iron
so like in the ready event
I'm calling the registration in the ready event, yes
Only after that you have access to all guild objects
Also to guild commands etc.
cloud bough
okay im starting to understand abit more now
boreal iron
But as I said you don't necessary need a gateway connection
You could also register them once
manually
cloud bough
oooof
boreal iron
No gateway connection, no ready event, nothing
waxen cloak
my bot invite links are showing "Invalid Permission(s) provided" but I have not changed anything can someone please help
boreal iron
Yeah that's no must
You can still use the normal gateway connection and application.command scope
cloud bough
okay
do you know the new event for slash commands?
isn't it interactionCreate or something
boreal iron
boreal iron
Yeah lots of properties messages come with are also available for interactions
author actually isn't one
cloud bough
its interaction.user
boreal iron
Aye
cloud bough
okay thank you for the help
boreal iron
np
cloud bough
ima make a small bot with a test command handler
cloud bough
đ ik
boreal iron
You will need to watch a few examples here and read the docs to get into them accurate
boreal iron
And play around a little bit with guild slash commands
you register on your test guild
btw. registering guild commands are instant available
cloud bough
okay thank you
cloud bough
also true, yeah
neat ingot
any yall do freelance work on any site like fiverr/upwork/flexiple ? Wondering what like the experience is for the developer đ
lyric mountain
from what I heard, terrible
neat ingot
yea, but bad news travels quicker than good, so folks always hear about the bad stuff first đ
i too find lots of negative reviews on such services
lyric mountain
I believe the issue comes not from the platform, but from having to interact with customers
earnest phoenix
but you could try using the search bar on top.gg
Thank you but i could not find a solution. Is there anyone willing to develop such solution?
neat ingot
~ is currently seeing freelance work ~ if your paying feel free to dm me details on your request lol
lyric mountain
~ is currently seeing freelance work ~ if your paying feel free to dm me details...
#development message details
oak cliff
this isn't a place to find developers or advertise yourself as a developer
please refrain from doing so
neat ingot
lol sorries, wasnt purposely trying to advertise đ
quartz kindle
any yall do freelance work on any site like fiverr/upwork/flexiple ? Wondering w...
been on fiverr for over a year
never got a single job from there
cinder patio
Market is oversaturated for bots at least
woeful pike
every job I've ever had came from connections. I recommend just reaching out on discord in servers that allow it
neat ingot
yea, thats fair. most of the jobs i've got has been through word of mouth etc
neat ingot
never got a single job from there
that sucks! is this for bot creation services? i looked on fiverr and there are WAAAAYYYYY too many people clearly selling edited open source bot code for pennies lol
quartz kindle
that sucks! is this for bot creation services? i looked on fiverr and there are ...
for coding in general