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wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 12:59 AM

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but that's tripping me up

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 1:00 AM

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I always create a snake game everytime I start a new lang

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I'd give a search, but am on mobile data

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:01 AM

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I found a tutorial, I'm gonna see how they do it

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I usually don't like going through video tutorials because they just give you all the answers without needing you to think about it

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but I'll make an exception for this one

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 1:02 AM

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A great thing is that video tutorials from 1990 are still valid today

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:03 AM

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lol not wrong

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 1:03 AM

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Cuz java is fully backward compatible unless using JNI or obscure sun packages

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:03 AM

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not to mention swing probably hasn't changed all that much since then anyways

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 1:03 AM

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Ye kekw

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You can notice for how it still use Graphics instead of Graphics2D

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Btw

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Use fillRect instead of drawRect

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So u get a filled rect instead of outline

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:12 AM

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Yeah I got that down

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 1:13 AM

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Since it's a game, u can also set rendering to fast

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So u get faster rendering by sacrificing quality

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But it's a blocky game, so u can afford it without issue

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setRenderingHint

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:15 AM

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so turns out this guy is doing it vastly different than I am

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I think he's about to add a keylistener to the actual frame/panel

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 1:16 AM

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U can add it to the paddle too probably

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:16 AM

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he's got a proper game loop

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I probably should've put more thought into this initially but I didn't expect it to be too much of an issue lol

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 1:17 AM

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Go easy

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Make it work, then optimize

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For game loop u can probably use a ScheduledExecutor

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:17 AM

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this guy kinda pains me though

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 1:17 AM

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Set to loop every 200ms or so

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:18 AM

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he manually types out his imports every time

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instead of just using the intellij suggestion

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 1:18 AM

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Ah, caveman method

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Common among old devs

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My teacher used to force us to use np++/sublime so we had to type it all manually

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He said becoming dependant on IDEs is bad

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:20 AM

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we're forced to use replit/JCreator

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it's terrible

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 1:20 AM

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No wonder everyone finish college hating java

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:20 AM

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neither of them are lightweight, but neither of them actually provide useful features

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I'd be fine with one or the other

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 1:20 AM

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no one takes java in college and likes it

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 1:21 AM

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Any lang gets ruined by college kekw

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I remember our C classes

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:21 AM

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I installed intellij idea on one of the school computers and I could tell my teacher was internally proud

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 1:21 AM

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Had to use DevC++

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That shitty compiler made our work harder than necessary

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 1:22 AM

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been using sublime for java more recently

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:22 AM

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idk why schools decide to use the most obscure IDEs for languages where a good IDE can make a world of difference

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I take autocomplete for granted until I don't have it

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 1:22 AM

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at first I was just building the project to get it to spit out errors

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then a linter

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 1:22 AM

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EOP best method

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 1:23 AM

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then gave up from there

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 1:23 AM

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Error Oriented Programming

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 1:23 AM

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how about guardrail driven development

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:23 AM

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my current CS class starts off assuming you know nothing about programming previously

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which to be honest it's done a pretty good job for those who didn't know much

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 1:24 AM

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but they're teaching you java?

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:24 AM

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yup

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a different high school in a neighboring city has to learn swift KEKW

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 1:24 AM

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would rather do that

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plus creative

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 1:24 AM

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Isn't swift ios?

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 1:25 AM

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it's not restricted to ios

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that's just it's main market

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:25 AM

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I'd say java is one of the best languages to learn whether you like it or not at this point

elder wolf Mar 20, 2022, 1:25 AM

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python

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 1:25 AM

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Heard apple puts out breaking changes all the time

elder wolf Mar 20, 2022, 1:25 AM

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python is good tho

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:25 AM

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I'm not talking about good or bad

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I'm talking about usefulness

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 1:25 AM

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I haven't seen Apple put out one

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:25 AM

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Java is universal to pretty much every platform

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if it has a jvm, it can run java

elder wolf Mar 20, 2022, 1:26 AM

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ah ok

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:26 AM

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Not to mention it's great at teaching OOP

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and data structures

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 1:26 AM

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It has the C strictness but more readable on the long run

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:26 AM

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much easier to understand in terms of errors

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perfect intro lang

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 1:27 AM

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eh, if I were to personally recommend a language to newcomers, I'd pick python

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 1:28 AM

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I'd say try all 3

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Java JS Python

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 1:28 AM

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but this is for beginners

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 1:28 AM

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Yes

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 1:28 AM

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there is only one pick

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:28 AM

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java is perfect for beginners

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it teaches types, objects, C-like syntax, and is useable basically anywhere

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 1:29 AM

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but so does python while removing all the complexity and stuff people don't like about java

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except the c type syntax

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:29 AM

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I see people that go from js/py to a strictly typed language like java and they struggle a lot with the concept of types

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 1:29 AM

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Python might be too abstracted

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People get dependant on writing little code and not thinking how it works inside

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 1:29 AM

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isn't that a good thing

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:30 AM

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In my opinion, types are one of the first things you should learn about programming

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because it's useful in every language

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 1:30 AM

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sudden geyser isn't that a good thing

Not for beginners, else u get lazy devs

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:30 AM

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even if you don't have to explicitly declare them in said language

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 1:30 AM

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that's like suggesting someone learn traditional chinese first because simplified chinese will be easier than the other way around

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:31 AM

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I don't know if I would compare it to a real language

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real languages have WAY less structure

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 1:31 AM

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I mean, python is so off the curve that you have harder time learning more standardized langs

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:31 AM

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(well, technically they're very structured but there's always exceptions to rules in real langs)

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python is unique in comparison to most langs out there

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in syntax at least

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 1:31 AM

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Like ruby

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 1:33 AM

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wheat mesa I don't know if I would compare it to a real language

head on, yes, real languages are harder to compare, but I meant it by the thought that you should learn the harder, more detailed language (Java) first before learning the simpler language, even if it has the same or more usage (Python)

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:33 AM

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I don't think that Java is necessarily "harder"

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 1:33 AM

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For beginners, it certainly is 🙂

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:33 AM

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It's just that python does some work to abstract certain things away from you

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python makes sense at first for beginners but then you switch to a different lang and you're perplexed because the syntax is so foreign and types and all that

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 1:35 AM

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in terms of familiarity, yes, python is harder, agree there

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but for beginners to learn what programming is like and being able to apply it, I think Python does what people want from Java but without all its baggage.

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In my CSA class, for example, I know a lot of people who were well off learning Java because they learned JavaScript/Python beforehand

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:36 AM

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I think python is a good beginner language as well, I just think that Java builds some of the most crucial foundational knowledge that will be applied to many other languages

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my CS1 class didn't dive right into java

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:37 AM

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js best lang for beginners

woeful pike Mar 20, 2022, 1:37 AM

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beginners are not a monolith

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:37 AM

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they explained some of the things that lead to thinking about why java is why it is (if that makes any sense)

woeful pike Mar 20, 2022, 1:38 AM

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different languages appeal to different kinds of people based on how and what they like to learn

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:38 AM

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I definitely think python is less intimidating

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print("hello world!")
``` is probably way less scary than ```java
public class Main {
  public static void main(String[] args) {
    System.out.println("hello world!");
  }
}

woeful pike Mar 20, 2022, 1:39 AM

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someone who wants to understand how computers work probably isn't going to enjoy starting with python and a beginner who wants to make discord bots probably won't want to begin with C

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:39 AM

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the more simple and abstracted the language, the better to start with

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its the same principle everywhere else in education

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you start with a basic overview of biology, physics, math, etc

woeful pike Mar 20, 2022, 1:39 AM

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terrible principle

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:40 AM

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then as you progress, you dive deeper and break down things into more complex things

woeful pike Mar 20, 2022, 1:40 AM

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begin with what excites you, not the simplest

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:40 AM

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I agree with that

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 1:40 AM

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Most don't dive deep after meeting the easy

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:40 AM

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people are much more prone to learning if they're motivated and excited about the content

woeful pike Mar 20, 2022, 1:40 AM

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lyric mountain Most don't dive deep after meeting the easy

yeah because a lot of beginners are forced to learn dumb shit and not what motivates them to learn more

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:41 AM

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yeah, and diving straight into something complex like a low level language is often gonna be a turn off

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:41 AM

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woeful pike yeah because a lot of beginners are forced to learn dumb shit and not what motiv...

(my cs1 class)

woeful pike Mar 20, 2022, 1:41 AM

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depends on what your goals are. I know plenty of people who went into programming to understand how computers work

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:41 AM

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they made us spend 3 weeks learning how to convert binary to decimal and vice versa

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I understand why it's useful but that's one of those things that I don't think is entirely necessary to spend that much time on

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 1:41 AM

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woeful pike yeah because a lot of beginners are forced to learn dumb shit and not what motiv...

That's why, at the beginning of all this debate, I said college ruins programming for everyone not already in the area

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They force u to make dumb stuff using dumb means

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And dumb tools

woeful pike Mar 20, 2022, 1:42 AM

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and complexity isn't a linear thing. C is a dead simple language in some sense and complex in other ways

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:42 AM

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personally I love cs because I was able to get an early start in it rather than having to wait until college to get useful courses

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 1:42 AM

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75% of the class you spend trying to setup the tools you'll be using

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20% typing

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5% actually thinking

woeful pike Mar 20, 2022, 1:42 AM

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lyric mountain 75% of the class you spend trying to setup the tools you'll be using

I mean that's pretty realistic tho lol

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 1:43 AM

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woeful pike I mean that's pretty realistic tho lol

I hate u for saying the truth KEKW

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:43 AM

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lyric mountain 75% of the class you spend trying to setup the tools you'll be using

I'm just lucky to have CS classes in high school I suppose, I'm grateful for that, so I don't really mind this sort of thing

woeful pike Mar 20, 2022, 1:43 AM

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my hot take is dont teach programming in cs courses until like 3rd year or whatever

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:44 AM

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granted we use pretty much 2 tools

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you guys wanna know something really dumb though?

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the APCSA exam

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:44 AM

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lyric mountain 5% actually thinking

how much % repeating things instead of actually thinking?

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:44 AM

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that shit is stupid

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 1:44 AM

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No

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AP CSP

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more of a joke

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:44 AM

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never took it

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APCSA isn't a joke, it's just stupid

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It's memorization

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And tedious work

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 1:45 AM

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CSP is worse

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Download the exam

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:45 AM

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It's just literally doing the work that the compiler was literally invented to do for you

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for the AP CSA exam, you pretty much just have to be the compiler

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 1:45 AM

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It’s to prove understanding but it’s a shitty test

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 1:45 AM

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I'm sitting in both classes this year and massively favor CSP over CSA as a class

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:45 AM

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Which I think is incredibly stupid

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 1:45 AM

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both exams are still stupid

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 1:45 AM

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sudden geyser I'm sitting in both classes this year and massively favor CSP over CSA as a clas...

At the same time??? Lucky as fuck

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 1:45 AM

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quartz kindle how much % repeating things instead of actually thinking?

One thing I once read that I'll never forget is: "you're not a programmer for memorizing and typing, you're a programmer for solving problems"

woeful pike Mar 20, 2022, 1:45 AM

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I hate how every programming debate boils down to 2 people going "no nuance, only correct answer angy "

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:45 AM

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I don't think that one exam should determine your understanding of an entire class

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 1:46 AM

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i had to take CSP this year and next year CSA

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:46 AM

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Taking CSA this year

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Haven't really learned much I didn't already know

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 1:46 AM

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i hate the way my school does it

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:46 AM

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But I'm still glad to be taking it

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 1:47 AM

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CS is a 3 class program with classes that don’t need to be taken in any order

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except they force progression

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:47 AM

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Yeah it's funny

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 1:47 AM

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and lock it to an “academy”

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:47 AM

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CSP requires no knowledge, CS1 requires no knowledge, CSA requires no knowledge

woeful pike Mar 20, 2022, 1:47 AM

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this is a formal education problem not a cs problem

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:47 AM

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the only cs class offered at my school that has prerequisites is CS3

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 1:47 AM

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I heard they might not offer CSA next year because not enough kids are taking I

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:47 AM

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which is a data structures course

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 1:48 AM

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what is CS1

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I don’t have such a class

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:48 AM

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basically intro to CS

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 1:48 AM

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We have “IT Fundamentals”

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:48 AM

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not csp tho

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I'm surprised we have a data structures course offered

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I'm very lucky for that

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Gonna gladly snatch that up next year

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 1:49 AM

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I’m just taking CS at the state college as well

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except I had to take CGS1100 or some shit

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:49 AM

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taking cs at my high school

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 1:49 AM

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Me not understanding what those terms mean: 👁️👄👁️

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 1:50 AM

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basically I have to take Microsoft word before I take intro to programming before I take programming in C

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thank you education system

woeful pike Mar 20, 2022, 1:50 AM

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wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:50 AM

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computer science principles = csp, computer science 1 = cs1, advanced placement computer science A = csa/apcsa, etc

woeful pike Mar 20, 2022, 1:51 AM

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psh A levels

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 1:52 AM

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try asking your counselor if you can just skip up the ladder of classes

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In 11th grade I was taking intro to programming and robotics and wanted to take AP but would normally require I take honors first

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didn't want to do that, asked, pray, get in, profit

austere surge Mar 20, 2022, 1:53 AM

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woeful pike

is it supposed to look like that

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:53 AM

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I would've skipped to CS3 this year, but an AP credit is free college credit

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 1:53 AM

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It is

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:53 AM

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not to mention I also get a math credit for taking ap

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 1:53 AM

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so is dual enrolling

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 1:53 AM

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yeah but you need to find a college that actually accepts it

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:53 AM

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no dual credit cs at my school unfortunately

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 1:53 AM

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and lots like not doing that so you take their class regardless

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:53 AM

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most colleges accept it

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depending on your score

woeful pike Mar 20, 2022, 1:53 AM

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austere surge is it supposed to look like that

I think your discord needs a restart... or an exorcism

austere surge Mar 20, 2022, 1:53 AM

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yeh

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 1:53 AM

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so if they let you for free, take college composition or something easy

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:54 AM

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most colleges accept a 4/5 on the apcsa exam

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 1:54 AM

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Music appreciation

woeful pike Mar 20, 2022, 1:54 AM

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oh hey I took music appreciation

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 1:54 AM

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yeah but even if it's a 4, I've heard lots of colleges that still force their students to take their class regardless

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 1:54 AM

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[...] or an exorcism

lmao

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 1:54 AM

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Lmao

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 1:54 AM

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so I'd argue it's something to consider

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 1:54 AM

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i never took it

woeful pike Mar 20, 2022, 1:54 AM

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I learned some music theory stuff on the side by making a program for it

simple stump Mar 20, 2022, 1:55 AM

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How would I get the time left in an audio stream?

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 1:55 AM

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wheat mesa not to mention I also get a math credit for taking ap

For CSA?

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:55 AM

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next year I've loaded my schedule with as much college credit as possible

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:55 AM

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crimson vapor For CSA?

yup

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 1:55 AM

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wheat mesa next year I've loaded my schedule with as much college credit as possible

Same lmao

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7 classes, 6 AP

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:55 AM

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6 classes, 2 AP, 2 dual credit

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 1:56 AM

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Lang,
Physics C,
Calc BC,
Econ/Gov,
CSA,
HUG

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I’m taking intro to programming over the summer as a free college class

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then I take c programming and probably Java

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 1:57 AM

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sounds painful

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:57 AM

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AP calc BC
AP Physics 1/2
Dual Credit Gov/Econ
CS3 Honors
Dual Credit Eng Lang
Digital Electronics (had nothing else to take)

woeful pike Mar 20, 2022, 1:57 AM

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https://replit.com/@xetera/Music lol I still have it

replit

xetera

Music

A Haskell repl by xetera

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 1:57 AM

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it’s not

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 1:57 AM

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wheat mesa AP calc BC AP Physics 1/2 Dual Credit Gov/Econ CS3 Honors Dual Credit Eng Lang D...

ENC?

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i took ENC1101 this year

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:58 AM

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idk

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 1:58 AM

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joke of a class sadly

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 1:58 AM

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haven't looked at the actual name

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my high school just calls it dual credit eng lang

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 1:58 AM

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It’s like college composition 1 or something

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ah

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 1:59 AM

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sudden geyser sounds painful

Gonna elaborate on this actually, imho AP classes are so much easier than honors classes because the teachers are actually competent for the most part

woeful pike Mar 20, 2022, 2:00 AM

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man I didn't have a single programming class as an option in the IB

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cringe

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 2:00 AM

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I think that dual credit is infinitely easier than ap imo

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 2:01 AM

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It is

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 2:01 AM

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all you have to do is pass the class and you get credit for it

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in AP your college credit all hangs on one test at the end of the year

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 2:02 AM

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crimson vapor It is

it’s unfortunate imo

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these college classes should be harder

quaint rampart Mar 20, 2022, 2:03 AM

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couple kilobytes, on a vps, https://ogp.me/, no

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 2:07 AM

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quaint rampart couple kilobytes, on a vps, https://ogp.me/, no

example url?

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can dm if you dont want it public

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 2:08 AM

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crimson vapor Gonna elaborate on this actually, imho AP classes are so much easier than honors...

CS is the only non-college prep class I've taken so I don't know how true that is where I am

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My teacher does a fine job teaching but is aggressive about the class being an AP class

quaint rampart Mar 20, 2022, 2:09 AM

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quartz kindle can dm if you dont want it public

done

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 2:13 AM

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quaint rampart done

i dont see anything wrong with them, they load fast for me. the only thing i noticed is that your tags are using relative url, im pretty sure the opengraph spec asks for absolute urls

quaint rampart Mar 20, 2022, 2:15 AM

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it only loads fast cuz discord already has the embed for the link

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lemme send u one w/o embed

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 2:17 AM

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still fast enough

quaint rampart Mar 20, 2022, 2:19 AM

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i’m not sure then soentimes it’s just laggy

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 2:19 AM

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if you suspect the issue is in your server, you can try benchmarking / stress testing it

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see how many requests per second it can serve

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there are several tools for that

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otherwise its either a discord issue or a network issue in general

simple stump Mar 20, 2022, 2:50 AM

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How do I get the length of an mp3 or audio file?

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 2:51 AM

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Metadata

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Don't ask me how to extract it tho

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 3:24 AM

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let mut x = 0;
let mut y = 1;

// Wouldn't it be fucked up if this could modify y?
x = 2;

println!("{y}");
``` I love how this very well written rust article about an unsafe pointer overhaul just has this comment in the middle of it

plucky imp Mar 20, 2022, 3:25 AM

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yes

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 3:29 AM

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foreshadowing

rocky hearth Mar 20, 2022, 3:29 AM

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The only difference bw, C malloc and calloc, is that calloc creates memory with default of 0, right?

hoary apex Mar 20, 2022, 3:33 AM

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Helpp

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 3:37 AM

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displayAvatarURL doesn't return a promise.

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It's just a string.

hoary apex Mar 20, 2022, 3:39 AM

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But it was working fine yesterday I didn't changed the code

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 3:40 AM

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highly doubting that it was "working fine yesterday" without changing the code like that

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you can only use .catch on promises

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 3:42 AM

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this could be code for something like logging, which would only have the issue on some events

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oh wait it shows file doesn't it

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oh index

hoary apex Mar 20, 2022, 3:45 AM

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crimson vapor oh wait it shows file doesn't it

It's my chat bot

rocky hearth Mar 20, 2022, 4:33 AM

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what wud be the output of this c snippet?

  char x;
  x = getchar(); // given b as input
  
  switch(x) {
    case "B" || "b": 
      printf("this is b");
      break;
    case "a": 
      printf("this is a");
      break;
    default: 
      printf("this is none");
  }

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 4:35 AM

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this is b?

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no

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 4:35 AM

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Well, what’s getchar();?

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 4:36 AM

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never this is b?

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 4:36 AM

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Can you even do switch cases like that?

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 4:36 AM

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could be a

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probably this is none

rocky hearth Mar 20, 2022, 4:36 AM

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sorry, I updated now

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 4:36 AM

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this is none

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 4:36 AM

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I don’t think you can do switch statements like that so I’m gonna go with this is none

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 4:37 AM

#

do

case 'B':
case 'b':``` instead

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' for char in C iirc

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and "B" || "b" will just be true

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iirc

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 4:37 AM

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Oh wait wouldnt that be an error? The switch case is on a char but your cases are char* technically

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 4:38 AM

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could be an error

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I would assume it just never works

rocky hearth Mar 20, 2022, 4:38 AM

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yes I'm getting this error on case "a"
error: case label does not reduce to an integer constant

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 4:38 AM

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I don’t know enough about the very specific areas of C to answer this question with 100% accuracy

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Yeah

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 4:38 AM

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yeah thats because a string isnt an int

elder wolf Mar 20, 2022, 4:38 AM

#

hm

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 4:38 AM

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because a char is just an abstraction of an int?

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 4:38 AM

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char is just an unsigned integer type

elder wolf Mar 20, 2022, 4:38 AM

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does anyone know how to make a lobby

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in python

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 4:39 AM

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lobby?

elder wolf Mar 20, 2022, 4:39 AM

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on a discord bot

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yes

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 4:39 AM

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no like

elder wolf Mar 20, 2022, 4:39 AM

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like a lobby create and join option

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 4:39 AM

#

elaborate

elder wolf Mar 20, 2022, 4:39 AM

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ok so you do /start lobby

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it creates a lobby

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then people can join it

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 4:39 AM

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and what does said lobby do?

elder wolf Mar 20, 2022, 4:40 AM

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it waits a few moments

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Like 60 seconds

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Then starts

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and then runs a function

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a extremely long function

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 4:40 AM

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what does said function end up doing

elder wolf Mar 20, 2022, 4:40 AM

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ends up playing a game

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 4:40 AM

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ok

elder wolf Mar 20, 2022, 4:40 AM

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a whole story game

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and choice and stuff

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 4:40 AM

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so just displays text or something?

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 4:40 AM

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Make a lobby class

elder wolf Mar 20, 2022, 4:40 AM

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and different people do different things

elder wolf Mar 20, 2022, 4:40 AM

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wheat mesa Make a lobby class

I did that

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pov: you learn classes 12 hours ago and u start using it

rocky hearth Mar 20, 2022, 4:41 AM

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crimson vapor yeah thats because a string isnt an int

So how do make x, treated like a string.
I want to compare those strings with x

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 4:41 AM

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Classes are just bags of data that can manipulate themselves

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 4:41 AM

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rocky hearth So how do make x, treated like a string. I want to compare those strings with x

Just use chars?

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 4:42 AM

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idk python

class lobby
lobby(timeout) // creates lobby
join(id) // adds person to lobby

elder wolf Mar 20, 2022, 4:42 AM

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yes but like

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how does it know how many people are in it

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unless I create a database for it

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Every single time someone makes a lobby

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and what if someone just left

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went afk

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 4:42 AM

#

switch(x) {
    case 'b': // do something
}

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 4:43 AM

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rocky hearth So how do make x, treated like a string. I want to compare those strings with x

why strings? just keep them as ints

  char x = getchar();
  
  switch(x) {
    case 'b':
    case 'B': 
      printf("this is b");
      break;
    case 'a':
    case 'A': 
      printf("this is a");
      break;
    default: 
      printf("not a or b");
      break;
  }```

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 4:43 AM

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Single quotes indicate character literals, double quotes indicate a character pointer in C

elder wolf Mar 20, 2022, 4:43 AM

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ooohs it’s Java

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 4:43 AM

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That’s C

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Not Java

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 4:43 AM

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c

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java

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same shit

elder wolf Mar 20, 2022, 4:44 AM

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ok

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 4:44 AM

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Same shit different ass

rocky hearth Mar 20, 2022, 4:44 AM

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wheat mesa Single quotes indicate character literals, double quotes indicate a character po...

ooh, yes single quotes. I forgot that

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 4:45 AM

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yes

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thats a good saying

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 4:45 AM

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elder wolf how does it know how many people are in it

store an array and then just use the size of the array

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 4:45 AM

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Just remember that there’s technically not a “string” in C and that it’s always just a block of characters

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 4:46 AM

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idk python

class lobby
func:
lobby(timeout) // creates lobby
join(id) // adds person to lobby
prop:
people = [] // array of people or ids or something

rocky hearth Mar 20, 2022, 4:46 AM

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and how does, c evals 'b' || 'B' in cases of switch?
How C treats them like?

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 4:46 AM

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true

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idk ascii of b or B but assume its 1 and 11

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1 || 11

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thats just true

rocky hearth Mar 20, 2022, 4:46 AM

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oohk

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 4:47 AM

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I don’t think you can have a logical OR in a switch case but if you can it’s just the same as it would be treated elsewhere

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 4:47 AM

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crimson vapor thats just true

And no

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I don’t think so

elder wolf Mar 20, 2022, 4:47 AM

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crimson vapor store an array and then just use the size of the array

Oooh ty

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 4:47 AM

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is not?

rocky hearth Mar 20, 2022, 4:47 AM

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yeah, the program successfully ran the default case this time

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 4:48 AM

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If you can have an OR in a switch case it’ll just be evaluated as x matches b OR B

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Not always true

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 4:48 AM

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oh

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 4:48 AM

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I’ve been looking into getting into C more but no classes hurts me so I stay with C++ instead

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 4:48 AM

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so x == b || B

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 4:48 AM

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x == b || x == B

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 4:48 AM

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oh?

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 4:49 AM

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But again, I don’t think that works in a switch case

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 4:49 AM

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that works in switch cases?

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 4:49 AM

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I don’t think a logical OR would be in a switch case

rocky hearth Mar 20, 2022, 4:49 AM

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like
case 'b' || 'B':
and
case 'b':
case 'B':
are both same thing?

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 4:49 AM

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Just let it fall through

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Yeah the OR thing doesn’t work

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It doesn’t crash but it doesn’t have the intended behavior either

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 4:51 AM

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I don't know I assumed it would be

case 'b' || 'B':
// or 
case 98 || 66:
// or basically
case true:

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 4:52 AM

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That wouldn’t make logical sense

#

That would be trying to match a Boolean to a char

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 4:52 AM

#

but the

case 'b' || 'B':
// same as
x == 'b' || 'B'```

#

makes sense

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 4:53 AM

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I don’t know why you would write code like this in the first place

#

No real reason to do the job of the compiler on whether it works or not :p

#

#

#

just let it fall through like that

#

that's the switch equivalent of OR

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 4:57 AM

#

Alright.. after 12h of frontend I necessarily need vacation now

#

pandasad

dry imp Mar 20, 2022, 5:01 AM

#

no u dont

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 5:01 AM

#

boreal iron Alright.. after 12h of frontend I necessarily need vacation now

now you get to enjoy your 12h of driving

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 5:02 AM

#

Now I’m gonna enjoy 12h of sleep

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 5:02 AM

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gn fake, don't let the java bugs bite

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 5:03 AM

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will dream of my outstanding progress

#

freerealestate

stable nimbus Mar 20, 2022, 5:09 AM

#

I'm currently updating my deprecations inside of my applications, but when I fix them all, all I get is errors and my project no longer starts when I update to latest, however, when I revert to a depreciated version (such as embed.setAuthor or embed.setFooter) everything works fine, any thoughts?

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 5:10 AM

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I don't know what's wrong, you should probably show some errors and code

#

That would help

rocky hearth Mar 20, 2022, 5:10 AM

#

What is this method of printing floating number

printf("%+010.2e", 0.7234); // gives +7.23e-01

What r these called?

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 5:11 AM

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formatting identifiers

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unless that's not what you mean

stable nimbus Mar 20, 2022, 5:13 AM

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wheat mesa I don't know what's wrong, you should probably show some errors and code

TypeError: embed.footer is not a function
    at init (B:\Coding\rpbot\bot.js:60:8)
    at Object.<anonymous> (B:\Coding\rpbot\bot.js:224:1)
    at Module._compile (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1097:14)
    at Object.Module._extensions..js (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1149:10)
    at Module.load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:975:32)
    at Function.Module._load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:822:12)
    at Function.executeUserEntryPoint [as runMain] (node:internal/modules/run_main:81:12)
    at node:internal/main/run_main_module:17:47

const embed = new MessageEmbed();
    embed.title('Restart Soon');
    embed.color(0xA1EE33);
    embed.footer(config.copyright);
    embed.timestamp();

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 5:14 AM

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that's not how you do that

#

you have to use setFooter and stuff like that when you're using the builder functions

#

https://discord.js.org/#/docs/discord.js/stable/class/MessageEmbed

Discord.js

Discord.js is a powerful node.js module that allows you to interact with the Discord API very easily. It takes a much more object-oriented approach than most other JS Discord libraries, making your bot's code significantly tidier and easier to comprehend.

stable nimbus Mar 20, 2022, 5:15 AM

#

Okay, that makes some sense. I will look into it further, thank you.

wheat mesa Mar 20, 2022, 5:15 AM

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np

rocky hearth Mar 20, 2022, 7:29 AM

#

is it not possible to do data encapsulation and abstraction in , C++ structs?

cinder patio Mar 20, 2022, 8:13 AM

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rocky hearth is it not possible to do data encapsulation and abstraction in , C++ structs?

Use classes for that? Structs just group data together

earnest phoenix Mar 20, 2022, 9:40 AM

#

hi, how can i fetch all interaction slash command name + id

austere surge Mar 20, 2022, 9:49 AM

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i think Interaction#guild.commands is the applications command manager or whatever its called

rocky hearth Mar 20, 2022, 9:56 AM

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cinder patio Use classes for that? Structs just group data together

ik, but im asking for the possibility.

#

Can built-in functions be overloaded in c++

earnest phoenix Mar 20, 2022, 10:09 AM

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austere surge i think `Interaction#guild.commands` is the applications command manager or what...

i want to fetch my global slash command, so i have log interaction for get the command id and after fetch them :

console.log(client.application?.commands.fetch("the id of the slash command here"));```

Note: i have tried with `interaction.id` and `interaction.commandId` but my bot returns `DiscordAPIError: Unknown application command` how can i do please ?

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 11:01 AM

#

can i ask for help about html and djs?

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 11:34 AM

#

earnest phoenix i want to fetch my global slash command, so i have log interaction for get the c...

You will get the application ID any time the command is triggered.

#

It’s part of your interaction object

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 11:42 AM

#

hushed patrol can i ask for help about html and djs?

@boreal iron

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 11:43 AM

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Don’t ask to ask, just ask

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 11:43 AM

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i wanna make a select element with all the guild's channel name

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and for each channel name its a button

hybrid cargo Mar 20, 2022, 11:45 AM

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just map the channel objects to construct array of select menu objects and add it into the action row... also remember that one select menu can have only 25 options and a single message can have a max of 5 select menus considering that you dont have any other components in that message

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 11:46 AM

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Wut a select menu or a button?

hybrid cargo Mar 20, 2022, 11:46 AM

#

I think the button he is talking about is the select menu option

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 11:46 AM

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Both doesn’t make sense considering the limits

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 11:46 AM

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hybrid cargo I think the button he is talking about is the select menu option

Yeah probably

hybrid cargo Mar 20, 2022, 11:47 AM

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boreal iron Both doesn’t make sense considering the limits

exactly... even tho you can fit a max of 125 channels in just select menus.. its really not predictable... most servers have more channels than that

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 11:48 AM

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Well since channels are cached by default, choices or autocomplete is the better option here

rustic nova Mar 20, 2022, 11:49 AM

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or go the very user-unfriendly way by telling them to provide the id of the channel

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 11:49 AM

#

not that it would be a big deal to fetch them anyways

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 11:49 AM

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i want a select menu and in it buttons which each one have a channel name

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 11:49 AM

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hybrid cargo just map the channel objects to construct array of select menu objects and add i...

message.guild.channels.cache.map(channel => channel.name)?

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 11:50 AM

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rustic nova or go the very user-unfriendly way by telling them to provide the id of the chan...

Err why if you can select CHANNEL as interaction option

hybrid cargo Mar 20, 2022, 11:50 AM

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boreal iron Err why if you can select CHANNEL as interaction option

EXACTLY

harsh vault Mar 20, 2022, 11:51 AM

#

1 mn translate

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 11:51 AM

#

hushed patrol i want a select menu and in it buttons which each one have a channel name

Those aren’t called buttons but (select) options

hybrid cargo Mar 20, 2022, 11:51 AM

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hushed patrol message.guild.channels.cache.map(channel => channel.name)?

Map it to construct a select menu object
https://discord.com/developers/docs/interactions/message-components#select-menu-object-select-option-structure

Discord Developer Portal

Discord Developer Portal — API Docs for Bots and Developers

Integrate your service with Discord — whether it's a bot or a game or whatever your wildest imagination can come up with.

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 11:51 AM

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To stop the confusion

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 11:51 AM

#

oh ok

harsh vault Mar 20, 2022, 11:51 AM

#

Where can I see my bot's dbl token?

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 11:51 AM

#

in webhook tab

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 11:52 AM

#

harsh vault Where can I see my bot's dbl token?

Topgg site > login > edit bot > webhooks (left menu)

harsh vault Mar 20, 2022, 11:54 AM

#

boreal iron Topgg site > login > edit bot > webhooks (left menu)

Token for this bot -> here?

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 11:54 AM

#

You can find it there, yes

harsh vault Mar 20, 2022, 11:54 AM

#

boreal iron You can find it there, yes

Thanks bro. I love you :D

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 11:55 AM

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hushed patrol oh ok

Keep in mind to map the channel names as option name and better use the channel ID as value

#

You will see the option name when opening the select menu but your code will receive the channel ID as selected option

#

Easier to work with than the channel name

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 11:56 AM

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boreal iron Those aren’t called buttons but (select) options

yeah how to?

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 11:57 AM

#

boreal iron You will see the option name when opening the select menu but your code will rec...

can u give code?

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 11:57 AM

#

Well the select menu is just an array of objects which are your options

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 11:58 AM

#

hushed patrol can u give code?

please idk html alote

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 11:59 AM

#

let options = [];

…map((channel) => options.push({ label: channel.name, value: channel.id }));

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 11:59 AM

#

hushed patrol please idk html alote

Wtf that isn’t html

#

Those options need to be added to your select menu and that’s it

#

For example when pressing a button or using a slash command

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 12:06 PM

#

boreal iron let options = []; …map((channel) => options.push({ label: channel.name, value: ...

ok nice ty

cinder patio Mar 20, 2022, 12:13 PM

#

boreal iron let options = []; …map((channel) => options.push({ label: channel.name, value: ...

Why are you using map here that's not it's purpose 🤔

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:14 PM

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Because people always cry if I respond with a for loop

earnest phoenix Mar 20, 2022, 12:15 PM

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Why not just map it to that object instead of pushing to a new array

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:16 PM

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Because I always provide simple examples to let them understand what it does

earnest phoenix Mar 20, 2022, 12:16 PM

#

const options = ...
  .map((channel) => ({ label: channel.name, value: channel.id }));

#

I don't see how that's simpler than this

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 12:17 PM

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he probably means more familiar, although I disagree that it is

#

forEach would be better here anyway

#

or just a for of

#

or a regular old for

#

or specifying the indexes manually smirk

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:18 PM

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I feel like there’s a battle going on of micro optimizing each possible answer here oldEyes

earnest phoenix Mar 20, 2022, 12:18 PM

#

sudden geyser or specifying the indexes manually <:smirk:585884287320981554>

That's what we do in the core of our Node.js runtime, to avoid mangled iterator symbols troll

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 12:18 PM

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yeah well you're forced to do that

#

me, an application? hell nah

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:19 PM

#

earnest phoenix ```js const options = ... .map((channel) => ({ label: channel.name, value: cha...

But I like to push things!!1!

earnest phoenix Mar 20, 2022, 12:19 PM

#

I'll push you into a pool of Java

hybrid cargo Mar 20, 2022, 12:19 PM

#

boreal iron I feel like there’s a battle going on of micro optimizing each possible answer h...

I mean you literally using map.. which does the exact same thing that you are trying to do.. create a new array from another array... So it doesnt make sense to push elements into an array from the callback of map

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:19 PM

#

pepowot

hybrid cargo Mar 20, 2022, 12:19 PM

#

earnest phoenix I'll push you into a pool of Java

💀

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:20 PM

#

I know, I know I wanna repeat here

But I like to push things!!1!

hybrid cargo Mar 20, 2022, 12:20 PM

#

boreal iron But I like to push things!!1!

Just replace map with forEach and you are good to go with that code 💀

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:20 PM

#

KEKW

#

Arrrrrrrrr FakE is aware of map returning an arrrrrrray, stop blame FakE

#

FakE likes to complicate things

harsh vault Mar 20, 2022, 12:21 PM

#

Upvote with top gg did not apply code.

earnest phoenix Mar 20, 2022, 12:21 PM

#

You were unaware! FakE news

harsh vault Mar 20, 2022, 12:22 PM

#

const client = new Discord.Client();
const DBL = require("top.gg");
const dbl = new DBL('TOKEN HERE', client);
 

module.exports.run = async (client, message, args) => {
     emirhan.hasVoted(message.author.id).then(voted => { 
        if (!voted) {
            message.channel.send( new emran.MessageEmbed()
.setTitle("Hata")
.setColor("RED")
.setDescription("Sunucumuz da özel role sahip olabilmen için ilk öncelikle oy vermen gerekiyor!")
.addField("Oy Vermek için:", `[Buraya Tıkla!](https://top.gg/bot/${client.user.id}/vote)`)
.setFooter(client.user.username)
)

        } else {
  message.channel.send( new emran.MessageEmbed()
.setTitle("Başarılı!")
.setDescription("Sunucumuz da başarılı bir şekilde rolünüz verildi!")
.setColor("GREEN")
)
            message.member.roles.add("954094782534258698")    //Vericek rol id.
        }
    })
}
exports.config = {
  name: "votes",
  guildOnly: true,
  aliases: [],
  permlevel: 1
};```

#

I wrote a vote code with the top gg module and it didn't work.

hybrid cargo Mar 20, 2022, 12:23 PM

#

boreal iron FakE likes to complicate things

#development message

earnest phoenix Mar 20, 2022, 12:23 PM

#

The https://npmjs.com/package/top.gg library you're using is deprecated

npm

top.gg

An official module for interacting with the top.gg API. Latest version: 2.3.2, last published: 2 years ago. Start using top.gg in your project by running npm i top.gg. There are no other projects in the npm registry using top.gg.

slender thistle Mar 20, 2022, 12:23 PM

#

Plus unofficial

earnest phoenix Mar 20, 2022, 12:23 PM

#

Use https://npmjs.com/package/@top-gg/sdk instead

npm

@top-gg/sdk

Official Top.gg Node SDK. Latest version: 3.1.3, last published: 4 months ago. Start using @top-gg/sdk in your project by running npm i @top-gg/sdk. There are 7 other projects in the npm registry using @top-gg/sdk.

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:23 PM

#

hybrid cargo https://ptb.discord.com/channels/264445053596991498/272764566411149314/907836084...

Well nice try but I can’t open JS files on mobile

harsh vault Mar 20, 2022, 12:23 PM

#

Neden

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:25 PM

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earnest phoenix You were unaware! FakE news

Soon you’re the one having a pipebomb in your mailbox angeryBOYE

harsh vault Mar 20, 2022, 12:25 PM

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earnest phoenix Use https://npmjs.com/package/@top-gg/sdk instead

Did you tell me?

earnest phoenix Mar 20, 2022, 12:26 PM

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harsh vault Neden

Just said the reason, the one you're using is deprecated and no longer official, as it was maintained by a banned member rather and it's structure was too outdated and inconsistent to maintain

harsh vault Mar 20, 2022, 12:26 PM

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ok thanks. Which spider changed my name? Please correct my name.

slender thistle Mar 20, 2022, 12:27 PM

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It won't be changed because your name starts with an exclamation mark

earnest phoenix Mar 20, 2022, 12:27 PM

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boreal iron Soon you’re the one having a pipebomb in your mailbox <:angeryBOYE:5884925657126...

Unfortunately sir, before you'll be able to place any pipe bombs, I've strapped an exclusive atomic bomb on your car

slender thistle Mar 20, 2022, 12:27 PM

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Exclamation mark = !

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 12:28 PM

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and he'd still be texting while driving

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:28 PM

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Aye he will

harsh vault Mar 20, 2022, 12:28 PM

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slender thistle It won't be changed because your name starts with an exclamation mark

Then put my name without an exclamation point. Batu write. pls

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 12:28 PM

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try asking a mod

earnest phoenix Mar 20, 2022, 12:28 PM

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Imagine hoisting bro

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Deadass

harsh vault Mar 20, 2022, 12:29 PM

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Why, there are good people.

harsh vault Mar 20, 2022, 12:29 PM

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earnest phoenix Deadass

what

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 12:29 PM

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top.gg doesn't like hoisters since it clogs the member list

earnest phoenix Mar 20, 2022, 12:29 PM

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It has no relation to the said people being good or bad, hoisting is something else entirely

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Trying to place yourself on top of the members list is just outright attention seeking

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:30 PM

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Unlike people trying to fuck off FakE as soon as he answers freerealestate

earnest phoenix Mar 20, 2022, 12:31 PM

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Because you spread FakE news mmLol

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:31 PM

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earnest phoenix Because you spread FakE news <:mmLol:356831697385422848>

You Sir… soon smirk

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 12:32 PM

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Again, try asking a mod

earnest phoenix Mar 20, 2022, 12:32 PM

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Goodbye FakE, the atomic bomb on your car... soon

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 12:32 PM

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Such as Thor

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:32 PM

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Iranian terrorists are everywhere ffs

harsh vault Mar 20, 2022, 12:32 PM

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earnest phoenix Trying to place yourself on top of the members list is just outright attention s...

I'm not doing that for this server. I just mean correct my name without an exclamation point. Do not exclamation. Write my name properly. Please mate.

dry imp Mar 20, 2022, 12:33 PM

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anyway why people hoist using their username

earnest phoenix Mar 20, 2022, 12:33 PM

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harsh vault I'm not doing that for this server. I just mean correct my name without an excla...

My guy I'm not a mod, ask a mod

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 12:33 PM

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dry imp anyway why people hoist using their username

is this a rhetorical question

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:33 PM

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dry imp anyway why people hoist using their username

Better question is why are people still buying nitro

dry imp Mar 20, 2022, 12:33 PM

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no i mean

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why not just use nickname

harsh vault Mar 20, 2022, 12:33 PM

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I get confused. OK

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 12:34 PM

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because you can't change it here

dry imp Mar 20, 2022, 12:34 PM

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therefore you wont get fked when u can't change name

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but thats the dudes problem

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 12:35 PM

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personally I don't think hoisting is a problem

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what is are unmentionable names

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:35 PM

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quite white name

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 12:35 PM

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you all looking down on us because you know we're better than you

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:36 PM

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KEKW

dry imp Mar 20, 2022, 12:36 PM

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ok green name who loves driving

earnest phoenix Mar 20, 2022, 12:36 PM

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That guy's nickname bro

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☠️

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 12:36 PM

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gotten worse

dry imp Mar 20, 2022, 12:36 PM

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damn

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 12:36 PM

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oh he changed his username too

dry imp Mar 20, 2022, 12:36 PM

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who did it this time

harsh vault Mar 20, 2022, 12:36 PM

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ya

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whay name

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:37 PM

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KEKW

harsh vault Mar 20, 2022, 12:37 PM

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whay name change

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 12:37 PM

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at least it's unique KyoukoLaugh

harsh vault Mar 20, 2022, 12:37 PM

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o god

earnest phoenix Mar 20, 2022, 12:37 PM

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You wanted a name change, there you go

harsh vault Mar 20, 2022, 12:37 PM

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thanks

dry imp Mar 20, 2022, 12:37 PM

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yay its back

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 12:37 PM

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aw fun over

harsh vault Mar 20, 2022, 12:37 PM

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earnest phoenix You wanted a name change, there you go

sen bad boy

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 12:37 PM

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just regular batu

earnest phoenix Mar 20, 2022, 12:38 PM

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harsh vault sen bad boy

I'll bat you to the Java land

harsh vault Mar 20, 2022, 12:38 PM

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sudden geyser aw fun over

I'm getting offended, little friend:

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:38 PM

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harsh vault sen bad boy

That’s so true

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 12:38 PM

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boreal iron let options = []; …map((channel) => options.push({ label: channel.name, value: ...

i evaled it and it show the channels count

harsh vault Mar 20, 2022, 12:38 PM

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earnest phoenix I'll bat you to the Java land

H-hey

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:38 PM

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hushed patrol i evaled it and it show the channels count

Wut

harsh vault Mar 20, 2022, 12:39 PM

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boreal iron That’s so true

Say a few sentences in Turkish.

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:39 PM

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The level of confusion this morning is just remarkable

harsh vault Mar 20, 2022, 12:39 PM

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Have fun

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:39 PM

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harsh vault Say a few sentences in Turkish.

Le baguette

dry imp Mar 20, 2022, 12:39 PM

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yardim

#

as

harsh vault Mar 20, 2022, 12:39 PM

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boreal iron Le baguette

what, ıt espaneol

dry imp Mar 20, 2022, 12:39 PM

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sa

harsh vault Mar 20, 2022, 12:39 PM

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dry imp sa

ooo sa is hi

harsh vault Mar 20, 2022, 12:39 PM

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dry imp yardim

is help

dry imp Mar 20, 2022, 12:39 PM

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i dont understand

earnest phoenix Mar 20, 2022, 12:40 PM

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Guys guys guys this isn't #general-int !!!

dry imp Mar 20, 2022, 12:40 PM

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okay voltrus

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 12:40 PM

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earnest phoenix Guys guys guys this isn't <#751966421101182996> !!!

it is now

earnest phoenix Mar 20, 2022, 12:40 PM

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daffus

harsh vault Mar 20, 2022, 12:40 PM

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dry imp i dont understand

the meaning of what she said

dry imp Mar 20, 2022, 12:40 PM

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TakozillaPat

harsh vault Mar 20, 2022, 12:40 PM

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earnest phoenix Guys guys guys this isn't <#751966421101182996> !!!

oky

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:40 PM

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Can we votekick voltrox pls

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Evil boy

harsh vault Mar 20, 2022, 12:40 PM

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No

dry imp Mar 20, 2022, 12:40 PM

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votekick fake

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:41 PM

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Shut

earnest phoenix Mar 20, 2022, 12:41 PM

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I'm gonna vote kick you with that atomic bomb you got in your car!

dry imp Mar 20, 2022, 12:41 PM

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vote him out of his car

harsh vault Mar 20, 2022, 12:41 PM

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earnest phoenix I'm gonna vote kick you with that atomic bomb you got in your car!

broo this isn't #general-int

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 12:41 PM

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boreal iron Wut

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:42 PM

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Hmm because you don’t return options as output

atomic kindle Mar 20, 2022, 12:42 PM

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Why are you using map to update values of another array?

earnest phoenix Mar 20, 2022, 12:42 PM

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That white codeblock though

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 12:43 PM

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hushed patrol

why not just map it to the object directly

atomic kindle Mar 20, 2022, 12:43 PM

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Exactly.

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 12:43 PM

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instead of pushing to another array

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 12:43 PM

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quartz kindle why not just map it to the object directly

leme try

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:43 PM

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People we like to push things

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The nightmare begins once again

earnest phoenix Mar 20, 2022, 12:43 PM

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earnest phoenix ```js const options = ... .map((channel) => ({ label: channel.name, value: cha...

Tim I already explained, but FakE loves to push things

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 12:44 PM

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quartz kindle why not just map it to the object directly

like js const options = message.guild.channels.cache.map((channel) => ({ label: channel.name, value: channel.id }));

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 12:44 PM

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what a pushover

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xD

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:44 PM

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The one miss take I never come back from

earnest phoenix Mar 20, 2022, 12:44 PM

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I'll just push this detonate button just like FakE likes to push things, that atomic bomb in your car FakE

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:44 PM

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topggSob

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 12:45 PM

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hushed patrol like ```js const options = message.guild.channels.cache.map((channel) => ({ labe...

undefined

earnest phoenix Mar 20, 2022, 12:45 PM

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Access the options variable

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 12:45 PM

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how?

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i evaled it

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.eval const options = message.guild.channels.cache.map((channel) => ({ label: channel.name, value: channel.id })); returned undefined

earnest phoenix Mar 20, 2022, 12:45 PM

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Put options as the last line in your code

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 12:48 PM

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objects

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 12:48 PM

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if you just want to eval it, you dont need the const options anyway

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just eval message.guild.channels.cache.map((channel) => ({ label: channel.name, value: channel.id }))

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well it depends on how your eval code works

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if it supports implicit return or not

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:49 PM

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@earnest phoenix Now you’re getting fucked Sir, enjoy it

dry imp Mar 20, 2022, 12:49 PM

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🤨

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ambiguous

earnest phoenix Mar 20, 2022, 12:49 PM

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boreal iron <@456226577798135808> Now you’re getting fucked Sir, enjoy it

Sorry can't hear you with the beep beep of that atomic bomb you got in your car

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 12:50 PM

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[
[Object], [Object], [Object],
[Object], [Object], [Object],
[Object], [Object], [Object],
[Object], [Object], [Object],
[Object], [Object], [Object],
[Object], [Object], [Object],
[Object], [Object], [Object],
[Object], [Object], [Object],
[Object], [Object], [Object],
[Object], [Object], [Object]
] what i get

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:50 PM

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I yet don’t know how to fuck about Tim… but that’s a job for the next generation I guess KEKW

atomic kindle Mar 20, 2022, 12:50 PM

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stringify it

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:50 PM

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earnest phoenix Sorry can't hear you with the beep beep of that atomic bomb you got in your car

Literally any second sentence using that word
I highly guess you’re on top of the nsa key word list

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 12:50 PM

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atomic kindle stringify it

how?

atomic kindle Mar 20, 2022, 12:51 PM

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the stringify function

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 12:51 PM

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idk whta is that

slender thistle Mar 20, 2022, 12:51 PM

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Time to push these nuts in your mouth

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 12:51 PM

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.eval const options = message.guild.channels.cache.map((channel) => ({ label: channel.name, value: channel.id }));
options what i did

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 12:51 PM

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slender thistle Time to push these nuts in your mouth

me?

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 12:51 PM

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hushed patrol [ [Object], [Object], [Object], [Object], [Object], [Object], [Object], [O...

the output is correct

earnest phoenix Mar 20, 2022, 12:51 PM

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boreal iron Literally any second sentence using that word I highly guess you’re on top of th...

Can't escape the fate you've locked into

slender thistle Mar 20, 2022, 12:51 PM

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Nah

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:51 PM

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pepowot

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 12:51 PM

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if you want it to show more than that, you have to increase your inspect depth level

#

but also check if it doesnt go beyond the character limit

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 12:52 PM

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hmmm

#

wait

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:52 PM

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Why do you actually waste time on evaluating it?
Thought you wanna use them as options in your select menu?!

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 12:53 PM

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i am seeing if it works first

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:54 PM

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lol

#

Of course it does

#

FakE only responds with working solutions

#

freerealestate

#

Perfectly optimized ofc

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 12:58 PM

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ok then respone with my actually solution

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which is a select element with each channel name as a option and value channel id

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 12:59 PM

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lmao

#

We're not writing the code for others here

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:00 PM

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what if there are more than 25 channels?

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 1:00 PM

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const options = message.guild.channels.cache.map((channel) => ({ label: channel.name, value: channel.id }));

#

That's like your entire options array already

#

The rest is a response to a slash command or button for example

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 1:00 PM

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quartz kindle what if there are more than 25 channels?

i did it in a server with 2 chnanels still show objects

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 1:00 PM

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Including that select as option

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lmao

#

perfectly answers Tims question

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:01 PM

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hushed patrol i did it in a server with 2 chnanels still show objects

im not talking about that, im saying that select menus can only have max 25 options to chose

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 1:01 PM

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xD

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 1:01 PM

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quartz kindle im not talking about that, im saying that select menus can only have max 25 opti...

hmmm

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:01 PM

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i already answered why it only shows object, because your depth level is too low

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youre likely using depth:0

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 1:02 PM

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I think we're back to the inital try to add it as select option

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 1:03 PM

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quartz kindle youre likely using depth:0

whats depth level

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:03 PM

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in your eval code, you're using inspect right?

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 1:04 PM

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idk wait

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yes i am

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yes

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const { inspect } = require('util')

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:04 PM

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the inspect function has a depth option that tells it how deep to go

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 1:05 PM

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wait brb

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 1:07 PM

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quartz kindle youre likely using depth:0

i am

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what to put

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10?

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:07 PM

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depends how deep you wanna go

#

depth:1 will be enough to show your objects

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 1:08 PM

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ok

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 1:08 PM

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Might be a good idea to add depth as (optional) parameter of your eval command

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:08 PM

#

for example, lets say you want to eval an object like this: {a:{b:{c:{d:{e: 10}}}}}

#

with depth level 0, it will show {a: [object]}

#

with depth level 1 it will show {a: {b: [object]}}

#

with level 2 it will show {a: {b: {c: [object]}}}

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etc

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 1:09 PM

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i set it as 10 xD

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:10 PM

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now, depending on what you are evalling

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it might return more than the message character limit

#

so you need to deal with that as well

#

if result.length > 2000

#

either retry with a lower depth level, or slice the string

hybrid cargo Mar 20, 2022, 1:11 PM

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or just console.log and make sure to open your console before you do the eval

#

Ez

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 1:11 PM

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lol

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 1:12 PM

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yeah

#

now for the select element thing

#

as i have the options which returns [
{ label: 'exclamationrules', value: '810825516462112788' },
{ label: 'server-update', value: '814024291674488902' },
{ label: 'general', value: '857617987019735070' },
{ label: 'robotbot-command', value: '857618573852934154' },
{ label: 'notesmusic-command', value: '857619126734159872' },
{ label: 'voice channels', value: '857619676057436221' },
{ label: 'music', value: '857619718609305620' },
{ label: 'private 1', value: '857619783763361792' },
{ label: 'private 2', value: '857619823467298836' },
{ label: 'important', value: '857620026672021545' },
{ label: 'loudspeakerheadquarters', value: '857623562164895775' },
{ label: 'staff', value: '857629582974124082' },
{ label: 'cyclonestaff-chat', value: '857629772229115975' },
{ label: 'cyclonestaff-commands', value: '857629914714996756' },
{ label: 'boostest', value: '857910682947026954' },
{ label: 'envelope_with_arrowwelcome', value: '859506503982776340' },
{ label: 'incoming_envelopeleave', value: '859506663840546866' },
{ label: 'staff-music', value: '870230858609594418' },
{ label: 'pencilmod-logs', value: '884150735376355328' },
{ label: 'ticket', value: '893776986583994388' },
{ label: 'ticket-ticket', value: '899212177007869952' },
{ label: 'earth_asiachat', value: '903302479066845275' },
{ label: 'MODMAIL', value: '919165170322931773' },
{ label: 'white_check_mark-verify', value: '921312403705184266' },
{ label: 'mutemuted-rules', value: '932173908914872361' },
{ label: 'muted', value: '934405966496145428' },
{ label: 'mutemuted-chat', value: '934407361282576394' },
{ label: 'reported-bugs', value: '946784267474731048' },
{ label: 'transcriptchannel', value: '947068267854438400' },
{ label: 'general2', value: '952219917099364452' }
]

hybrid cargo Mar 20, 2022, 1:13 PM

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Oh god

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 1:13 PM

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xD

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i cannot do like options.value

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or options.label

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 1:14 PM

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Now that's your options array you add to your select menu component

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 1:14 PM

#

but i only wanna add the labels

#

and for each one a option

#

only if i could do options.label.forEach

#

but i cannot even do options.label

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its undefined

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 1:15 PM

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ofc it's undefined

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:15 PM

#

you dont need any of that

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 1:15 PM

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The objects are inside your array

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:15 PM

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are you using discord.js?

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 1:16 PM

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yes

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 1:16 PM

#

array[0].label

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:16 PM

#

messageSelectMenu.setOptions(options)

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 1:16 PM

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Is your first item

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:16 PM

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done

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 1:16 PM

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boreal iron array[0].label

so objects[0].label?

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 1:16 PM

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quartz kindle messageSelectMenu.setOptions(options)

....

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i wanna add it to my website as a select element

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:16 PM

#

your website?

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 1:17 PM

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wtf

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:17 PM

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so its not discord.js lol

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 1:17 PM

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you should eventually tell that BEFORE 1 hour of discussion starts

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:17 PM

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how are you sending this data to the client side?

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 1:17 PM

#

quartz kindle your website?

yes

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:17 PM

#

rendering with ejs or something?

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 1:17 PM

#

quartz kindle rendering with ejs or something?

ejs yes

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:18 PM

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you probably want to map it to html select element

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 1:19 PM

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I mean you can still pass the channel IDs as option value, to make sure working with the channel ID, not the name when handling the form submit

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 1:19 PM

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yeah

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 1:20 PM

#

<select name="channel">
  loop:
  <option value="channel-id">channel name</option>
  :end loop
</select>

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:20 PM

#

<select name="channels" id="channels">
  <%- options.map(item => `<option value="${item.value}">${item.label}</option>`).join("") %>
</select>

#

or something like fake said

#

i dont use ejs

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 1:20 PM

#

Neither do I lol

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 1:21 PM

#

hmm

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:22 PM

#

or like the example from the ejs docs

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 1:22 PM

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where are the ejs docs?

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:23 PM

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  <% options.forEach(function(option){ %>
    <option value="<%= option.value %>"><%= option.label %></option>
  <% }); %>

atomic kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:23 PM

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https://ejs.co

EJS -- Embedded JavaScript templates

'E' is for 'effective'. EJS is a simple templating language that lets you generate HTML markup with plain JavaScript. No religiousness about how to organize things. No reinvention of iteration and control-flow. It's just plain JavaScript.

#

ig

#

oh yes...

hushed patrol Mar 20, 2022, 1:23 PM

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ok leme see

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:24 PM

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having to use the ejs marker on every line of a loop is the weirdest thing ever

#

imagine if php did that

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 1:26 PM

#

I mean I'm opening and closing the tags, too instead of using an entire template scheme

#

#

as in this particular use case I don't wanna use a template build

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:28 PM

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well yes, but you dont do shit like this ```php
<? forEach() { ?>
<a><? a ?></a>
<? } ?>

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 1:28 PM

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KEKW

#

Nah... in that case I would print the anchor element inside the php tags

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:29 PM

#

exactly, something like this is much better ```php
<?
forEach() {
print something
}
?>

spark flint Mar 20, 2022, 1:30 PM

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<% <array>.forEach(function(variablename) { %>
<h1><%= variablename %></h1>
<% }) %>

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 1:30 PM

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You usually parse your entire template files just by replacing for example <p>{{php var here}}</p>

spark flint Mar 20, 2022, 1:30 PM

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Something like that

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am on mobile so hard to format

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 1:31 PM

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But template builds have a lot of disadvantages when you wanna add some code to the template file for exampling handling a form instead of throwing everything into a config file etc.

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In theory the template file only contains your final vars which will be parsed and rendered

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But eww that's too much work

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:33 PM

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imo ejs should be able to do something like this instead ```js
<%-
let str = "";
for(...) {
str += "..."
}
return str;
%>

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 1:36 PM

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wouldn't make me a fan of it anyways

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glad I'm using php

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smirk

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 1:37 PM

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php > ejs

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everyone can agree on that

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 1:39 PM

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please just add macros to javascript

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 1:41 PM

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quartz kindle php > ejs

I mean php is far more than a template engine

quartz kindle Mar 20, 2022, 2:17 PM

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tru

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 2:22 PM

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all the haters must be sleeping

pearl trail Mar 20, 2022, 2:39 PM

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more like all the haters dont want to chat afraid to get banned zoomeyes

spark flint Mar 20, 2022, 2:49 PM

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pearl trail more like all the haters dont want to chat afraid to get banned <:zoomeyes:39004...

New rules lol

rose warren Mar 20, 2022, 3:10 PM

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PHP - Pog Hi-level Programming sunglasso

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 3:11 PM

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dblMod

rose warren Mar 20, 2022, 3:11 PM

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(yeah ik. That was cringey af)

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 3:11 PM

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Need to add you to my special list now

rose warren Mar 20, 2022, 3:12 PM

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The block one?

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 3:12 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/483252234579083268/932614697780408330/unknown.png

rose warren Mar 20, 2022, 3:12 PM

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Almost every website I've made has been in PHP

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 3:13 PM

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Almost half of the visible internet still is in php

rose warren Mar 20, 2022, 3:14 PM

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And yet noobs be hatin

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 3:16 PM

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considering how much php moved forward the last years getting to something structured and well optimized instead of the chaos like 10y ago

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especially with php > 8

neat ingot Mar 20, 2022, 3:26 PM

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rose warren Almost every website I've made has been in PHP

ewwww really? php? 🤮

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I havent used php since like 2012 lol

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 3:27 PM

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proves you're not up to date

neat ingot Mar 20, 2022, 3:27 PM

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yea thats fair 😄

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tbh, I did enjoy writing in php when I used it 🙂

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its just so much more convenient to have your entire framework (front+back) written in js

near stratus Mar 20, 2022, 3:29 PM

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neat ingot its just so much more convenient to have your entire framework (front+back) writ...

no ?

neat ingot Mar 20, 2022, 3:29 PM

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near stratus no ?

how do you figure?

near stratus Mar 20, 2022, 3:30 PM

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It basically depends on the site's features

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"I don't have to learn another language" isn't a good cause to use js everywhere

neat ingot Mar 20, 2022, 3:30 PM

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what featureset would you argue would be more suited to another languages?

near stratus Mar 20, 2022, 3:33 PM

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neat ingot what featureset would you argue would be more suited to another languages?

Most of the cases you'll need more than one language
Let's say Discord
Everything can be done with js no problem there
But what about the server discovery / suggestion page ?
You need ml / ai for that (Here comes python)
You might need more security at the backend (Rust, Go)
Or you might focus on execution time / memory usage (C)

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 3:34 PM

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You can practically use JavaScript for everything (Atwood's law), but some languages are better than JavaScript in certain categories.

neat ingot Mar 20, 2022, 3:36 PM

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near stratus Most of the cases you'll need more than one language Let's say Discord Everythin...

why do you need ml for server discovery? what additional securities could rust/go provide over a website written in js? Ill grant you, if performance is a major consideration, you might want to use something lower level.

neat ingot Mar 20, 2022, 3:37 PM

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sudden geyser You can practically use JavaScript for everything (Atwood's law), but some langu...

100%! Javascript is incredibly versatile, and can run almost anywhere. Its not the fastest by far, but imo, versatility trumps performance (as long as performance isnt 'bad')

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 3:38 PM

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Agree with you there

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JavaScript was not meant to be good at a lot of things it's good at today, so people like to use it.

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Including me sometimes

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But to set a bar, I would suggest people not become too attached to the language, as other languages can you blow you away at what they're capable of and have had since day one.

neat ingot Mar 20, 2022, 3:40 PM

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imo, being able to spend more time in js (due to everything written in js) allows me to increase my js knowledge more, and become much better with that language ~ rather than using multiple technoologies (say php+sql), which would naturally mean my learning is split between those two.

neat ingot Mar 20, 2022, 3:40 PM

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sudden geyser But to set a bar, I would suggest people not become too attached to the language...

yea, thats probably fair. I am a bit of a js fanboi 😄

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everytime i go to use some lower level/more performant language, the speed of things is just so much faster

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i do honestly think though, if js was capable of multiple threads, it'd rival a lot of the 'bigger' languages out there

plucky imp Mar 20, 2022, 4:04 PM

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@sudden geyser i fell asleep why coding

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and now

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i have 8 hours in vsc

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 4:05 PM

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first time?

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I see lot of vsc activities up to 23 hours long

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but it's usually just the rich presence not pausing / resetting the timer on inactivity

near stratus Mar 20, 2022, 4:10 PM

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neat ingot why do you need ml for server discovery? what additional securities could rust/g...

how do you know which servers I'd like?
You'd draw a regression model based on the servers I'm in and predict which servers I'd be interested in
Just showing random servers cuz they got more ppl won't be that much helpful
(yt and steam works this way)

neat ingot Mar 20, 2022, 4:14 PM

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near stratus how do you know which servers I'd like? You'd draw a regression model based on t...

oooooohhhh. idk why, for some reason I was thinking of like, the native server discovery feature discord has that makes every website with said feature redundant 😄

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but yea, if you were doing such a thing, sure, ml could be used

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for argument sake though, there are ml libs for js 😂

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(not saying you should use them though...)

near stratus Mar 20, 2022, 4:18 PM

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neat ingot for argument sake though, there are ml libs for js 😂

finally someone spoke in favour of brain.js

neat ingot Mar 20, 2022, 4:24 PM

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I have used brain.js before. to create an ai to predict the location of the 'ball' when the opponent hits it (in a pong game i made) 😄

cinder patio Mar 20, 2022, 4:43 PM

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can't u just use math for that

ancient nova Mar 20, 2022, 4:52 PM

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would anyone be able to decrypt this?

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spark flint Mar 20, 2022, 4:53 PM

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uHH

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use https://deobfuscate.io/

JavaScript Deobfuscator

A simple but powerful deobfuscator to remove common JavaScript
obfuscation techniques

cinder patio Mar 20, 2022, 4:54 PM

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one thing you can do is replace hex numbers with some random letters, that'd make it a lot easier. Also unminify

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 5:03 PM

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reminds me of the dude trying to hide his client sided JS code

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freerealestate

neat ingot Mar 20, 2022, 5:34 PM

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cinder patio can't u just use math for that

yea, but wheres the fun in that? 😛

crimson vapor Mar 20, 2022, 5:35 PM

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trig is fun

worn sonnet Mar 20, 2022, 5:53 PM

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hello!
is there any lib just like this one
https://pypi.org/project/mee6-py-api/
for Invite Tracker https://invite-tracker.com/

PyPI

mee6-py-api

Unofficial Python API for the Mee6 Discord bot

Invite Tracker

A powerful Discord bot which offers many features such as invite tracking, giveaways, messages tracking and more.

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 5:55 PM

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As in, you want a library that manages the invite tracking logic?

worn sonnet Mar 20, 2022, 5:55 PM

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sudden geyser As in, you want a library that manages the invite tracking logic?

No no no

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 5:56 PM

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What sort of key is "$el"?
How would I be able to access it (plain JS)?

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 5:56 PM

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If it were a literal key, x["$el"]

worn sonnet Mar 20, 2022, 5:56 PM

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if you see the mee6 lib you can see it can fetch levels from mee6 leaderboards which I can use in my bot

cinder patio Mar 20, 2022, 5:57 PM

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boreal iron What sort of key is "$el"? How would I be able to access it (plain JS)?

object.$el

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$ is valid in identifier names

worn sonnet Mar 20, 2022, 5:57 PM

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similarly was wondering if there's a lib which can get the invites of a user which Invite-Tracker bot has of a user

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 5:58 PM

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cinder patio $ is valid in identifier names

Ah I see, ty

worn sonnet Mar 20, 2022, 5:58 PM

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more or less it's like accessing the DB of Invite tracker

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 5:58 PM

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I was just stupid enough to forget to escape the $

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object.\$el

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 5:59 PM

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Well, you may want to check if Invite Tracker has an API for that. I didn't know Mee6 offers an API.

worn sonnet Mar 20, 2022, 6:00 PM

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sudden geyser Well, you may want to check if Invite Tracker has an API for that. I didn't know...

nah mee6 doesn't offer API
this lib just scrapes the mee6 leaderboards from website

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https://mee6.xyz/leaderboard/953300942839775232
like this one

MEE6 - The Discord Bot

Install our Discord bot to set up leveling, moderation, music, Twitch, YouTube, and Reddit notifications for your Discord server.

old cliff Mar 20, 2022, 6:15 PM

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spark flint use https://deobfuscate.io/

obfuscator.io obfuscates it in such a way that even after using this its hard to understand

earnest phoenix Mar 20, 2022, 6:28 PM

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Do you know how I can get relation data using typeorms query builder?

vast cedar Mar 20, 2022, 6:30 PM

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Hey when i use fetchLogs, it return me an array with executor, target ect, but when i put UserManager: 0 on the MakeCache client options, the executor is null, how can i get the executor without caching everyone ?

rocky dagger Mar 20, 2022, 6:52 PM

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how can i send a message with a dynamic amount of elements in? if u have an array with a random number of objects i could do like the code under to for example log what i want js for (let x = 0; x < array.object.length; x++) { console.log(array.object[x].name); } but what do i do if i want to send all those elements in a message

cinder patio Mar 20, 2022, 6:54 PM

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channel.send(array.object[x].name)

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or

let content = "";
// Add each name to content in the for loop, and after the for loop send the content
channel.send(content);

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 6:59 PM

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Just map and join

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String concatting isn't good on a loop

cinder patio Mar 20, 2022, 7:03 PM

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That also works but there's nothing wrong with sting concatenation inside a for loop

vast cedar Mar 20, 2022, 7:18 PM

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vast cedar Hey when i use fetchLogs, it return me an array with executor, target ect, but w...

Someone know how ?

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 7:55 PM

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cinder patio That also works but there's nothing wrong with sting concatenation inside a for ...

There is actually, string concatenation is quite slow, and generally there's a better option for loops

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Like in java we have StringBuilder

cinder patio Mar 20, 2022, 8:00 PM

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lyric mountain There is actually, string concatenation is quite slow, and generally there's a b...

Methods like map and join tend to be slower because they perform type checks that just don't happen with a regular for loops (not a for...of).

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This is a micro-benchmark but it just goes to show that the string concatenation is not slow

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not saying a for loop is better here

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but if you're going for 100% performance a for loop is your safest bet

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 8:02 PM

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cinder patio Methods like `map` and `join` tend to be slower because they perform type checks...

Ig that's one of the drawbacks of being dynamically typed

woeful pike Mar 20, 2022, 8:05 PM

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if you're going for 100% performance it's time to stop using javascript

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.join is never going to be your bottleneck

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not sure why you'd bother even thinking about it

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also these micro-benchmarks are totally unreliable

cinder patio Mar 20, 2022, 8:07 PM

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woeful pike not sure why you'd bother even thinking about it

Because KuuHaKu said it's slower and I just wanted to show them that it is in fact not slower than a .join. Obviously .join should be used whenever possible.

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 8:07 PM

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In js at least

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In other langs I used it's the opposite

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Because of string being immutable thus needing to be recreated on each iteration iirc

woeful pike Mar 20, 2022, 8:09 PM

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wait you're not even testing the same thing

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you're testing appending a number in the first one with fixed-size allocation lol

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part of why microbenchmarks are terrible

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you have no idea if you're comparing apples to apples without manually going through the bytecode

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cringe

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 8:11 PM

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Just out of curiosity, what'd be the correct code for the loop?

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For of?

woeful pike Mar 20, 2022, 8:11 PM

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well for once you would have to append a string to it not a number

cinder patio Mar 20, 2022, 8:11 PM

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Using the array elements instead

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 8:12 PM

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Ic

woeful pike Mar 20, 2022, 8:13 PM

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oh your array is just an int array in the first place

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other website that shows otherwise because these results are meaningless

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oh no wait they swapped 1 and 2 around lmfaoo

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why tf would they do that

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 8:16 PM

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Kekw

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But ig that's an issue with not knowing value type beforehand

woeful pike Mar 20, 2022, 8:16 PM

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I don't think so

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I'm surprised because v8 usually optimizes native methods like these

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to the point where reimplementing them by hand isn't actually faster

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that's how it works with .forEach and .map etc

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still can't know if the benchmark is comparing the right things

raw nest Mar 20, 2022, 8:21 PM

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Is there an easy way to and a number with all values in an array and check if anything is true. Without doing a for loop? F.e. 16 & [2, 8, 16, 32] (= true)

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 8:22 PM

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Includes

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Or contains, depend on ur lang

raw nest Mar 20, 2022, 8:22 PM

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js

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 8:22 PM

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Includes

cinder patio Mar 20, 2022, 8:23 PM

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My only guess on why .join might be slower is because it does extra checks - if the array contains holes, maybe some other guards.

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 8:23 PM

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Isn't it possible to see the underlying code?

cinder patio Mar 20, 2022, 8:25 PM

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lyric mountain Isn't it possible to see the underlying code?

yes but the codebase is huge and if it'll take u a while to find it

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 8:25 PM

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Ctrl + click doesn't take u there?

cinder patio Mar 20, 2022, 8:25 PM

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Considering the codebase contains more than 600,000 lines of code, probably not

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oh no

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it doesn't since it's definitely implemented in C++ and not js

lyric mountain Mar 20, 2022, 8:26 PM

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Eh

cinder patio Mar 20, 2022, 8:27 PM

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raw nest Is there an easy way to and a number with all values in an array and check if an...

One way to do it is with every which does a loop so no it's not possible

split hazel Mar 20, 2022, 8:36 PM

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mogus

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anyone happen to know a stable and more supported version of wine?

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I tried using raw wine to run things but they either won't launch or completely broken

craggy pine Mar 20, 2022, 9:54 PM

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Does mysql have something similar to js's .includes() but for a WHERE clause?

Ex: A person select a playlist and wants to chose "My Playlist" and they type "My play" it would kind of assume it's my playlist

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 9:55 PM

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WHERE search LIKE '%laylist'

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WHERE search LIKE '%y Playl%'

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WHERE search LIKE 'My Play%'

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 9:55 PM

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I've always wondered—how would you protect that against injection?

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 9:55 PM

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Where % is your placeholder aka. wildcard

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 9:56 PM

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So the user can't insert % as a placeholder

boreal iron Mar 20, 2022, 9:56 PM

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At least not with prepared statements

craggy pine Mar 20, 2022, 9:56 PM

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ty

neat ingot Mar 20, 2022, 9:57 PM

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any suggestions for additional improvements? 🙂

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 9:57 PM

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maybe the ui

neat ingot Mar 20, 2022, 9:57 PM

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oh ffs ~ a delete button ~ duh

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 9:58 PM

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like aligning the titles and text inputs

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kind of feels too controlly

neat ingot Mar 20, 2022, 9:58 PM

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sudden geyser like aligning the titles and text inputs

aligning them to the text within the input, or the border of the input?

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too controlly? 👀

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 9:59 PM

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I'm talking about the edge here

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Would probably look better if the title (General) was aligned perfectly

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But maybe not

neat ingot Mar 20, 2022, 10:00 PM

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yea, but do you suggest aligning the general to the border of the input below, or to the position of the text below?

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 10:00 PM

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border of input

neat ingot Mar 20, 2022, 10:00 PM

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sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 10:00 PM

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hmm think

neat ingot Mar 20, 2022, 10:00 PM

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I had it somewhat in between both 😛

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 10:01 PM

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actually I think I like your original more

neat ingot Mar 20, 2022, 10:01 PM

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😄

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I hate designing gui's so much. I spend so much time doing this kind of pixel perfect placement of junk 😄

split hazel Mar 20, 2022, 10:03 PM

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this is why I stay away from front end

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you spend too much time with styling just for it to not be perfect

neat ingot Mar 20, 2022, 10:05 PM

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front end dev is the easiest ~ if you have a designer to actually design things, or a strong concept in mind. but trying to build it all from scratch with no idea where to begin ~ thats where it gets tedious imo 😄

sudden geyser Mar 20, 2022, 10:05 PM

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yeah

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we all want a system but creating a system is hard

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so we use designs that already exist (material), but then everyone uses it, need something more special/cool looking

neat ingot Mar 20, 2022, 10:09 PM

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ive never used material ui, nor react 😐

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i normally use raw bootstrap, which there is a material design kit for

spark flint Mar 20, 2022, 10:32 PM

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If I have an image link

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How can I make my bot spoiler it by default

simple stump Mar 20, 2022, 10:34 PM

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How do I get the length of an audio file

dry imp Mar 20, 2022, 10:43 PM

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spark flint How can I make my bot spoiler it by default

i dont think it is possible, you can do that by changing the filename tho

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or is it

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i forgor

vast cedar Mar 20, 2022, 10:55 PM

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spark flint How can I make my bot spoiler it by default

Make an Attachment with the url then rename it SPOILER_name.png

spark flint Mar 20, 2022, 10:55 PM

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Alright

vast cedar Mar 20, 2022, 10:56 PM

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spark flint Alright

channel.send({
   files: [{
      attachment: "imageurl",
      name: "SPOILER_FILE.jpg"
   }]
});

vast cedar Mar 20, 2022, 10:59 PM

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simple stump How do I get the length of an audio file

Check the npm package get-audio-duration on npm

split hazel Mar 20, 2022, 11:00 PM

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cant you just extract it from the file metadata

vast cedar Mar 20, 2022, 11:00 PM

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Yes you can

split hazel Mar 20, 2022, 11:03 PM

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bro that package is a wrapper which uses another wrapper 💀

neat ingot Mar 20, 2022, 11:11 PM

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I'm probably going to upload it to github/my site for others to use (free) when its finished.

heavy marsh Mar 20, 2022, 11:51 PM

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this.client.cluster.broadcastEval(c => [
c.cluster.process.memoryUsage().rss / 1024,
])

tells me ```
Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'memoryUsage')

pearl trail Mar 20, 2022, 11:57 PM

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process is undefined

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maybe try without c.cluster.

heavy marsh Mar 21, 2022, 12:08 AM

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pearl trail maybe try without `c.cluster.`

Seems to be running but nothing

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no error or logs

pearl trail Mar 21, 2022, 12:08 AM

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does it return the value that you want?

heavy marsh Mar 21, 2022, 12:08 AM

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No errors either

heavy marsh Mar 21, 2022, 12:29 AM

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nvm fixed it

simple stump Mar 21, 2022, 1:08 AM

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split hazel cant you just extract it from the file metadata

For some reason doing that and using the package music-metadata doesnt work. The duration is 0.007 or whatever which is weird.

simple stump Mar 21, 2022, 1:08 AM

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vast cedar Check the npm package `get-audio-duration` on npm

Okay; thank you.

bright hornet Mar 21, 2022, 1:20 AM

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newb question but how do you ping members on slash command?, i know how to use options but how

jaunty mason Mar 21, 2022, 1:20 AM

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Why the bot doesn't show it avatar?
https://top.gg/bot/574812330760863744

Top.gg

Doraemon Discord Bot | Top.gg

A cute bot with battle RPG, PvP gambles, text to speech, anonymous confession, temp voice channel, conditional giveaway, Among us, etc

sudden geyser Mar 21, 2022, 1:20 AM

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Well, you can do a traditional ping, like <@id>

lyric mountain Mar 21, 2022, 1:20 AM

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jaunty mason Why the bot doesn't show it avatar? https://top.gg/bot/574812330760863744

Press refresh data

sudden geyser Mar 21, 2022, 1:21 AM

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Of course, replying to the interaction is basically a ping.

jaunty mason Mar 21, 2022, 1:21 AM

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lyric mountain Press refresh data

still doesn't work

bright hornet Mar 21, 2022, 1:21 AM

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wait a min

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you mean

lyric mountain Mar 21, 2022, 1:21 AM

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...it isn't instant

spark flint Mar 21, 2022, 1:21 AM

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Takes 30 mins+

bright hornet Mar 21, 2022, 1:22 AM

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interaction.mentions.members.first()``` works too?