I’ll reformat it
#development
split hazel
yeah include fields for each like the specs, price/free tier eligible and maybe free trials
maiden nimbus
why most slash commands don't show emojis?
split hazel
and drawbacks perhaps like card required
boreal iron
why most slash commands don't show emojis?
wut?
spark flint
yeah include fields for each like the specs, price/free tier eligible and maybe ...
Yep
And because I’m online too much I can update when needed
maiden nimbus
@boreal iron Why don't I show emojis on most slash commands
spark flint
wdym
maiden nimbus
multi-guild
boreal iron
Asking the same question again doesn't make it more understandable
spark flint
Lol
spark flint
Nope
maiden nimbus
I made slash commands on my public bot, updated it and set it up for everyone to use. In embeds on my slash commands, the bot doesn't want to show the emojis it displayed on regular commands.
@boreal iron
boreal iron
custom emojis?
split hazel
i'll make a raw list of my host experiences (not much)
boreal iron
Nah dude, I totally disabled and blocked most assets like emojis, and stickers off discord
spark flint
Smart
boreal iron
as they're fucking annoying
spark flint
I wanna block gifs
maiden nimbus
But, what I can do about it??
split hazel
azure - free $100 student credit every once a while (not sure how frequently) if your school has a microsoft account for you or you apply for it
contabo - good specs for a good price (sus tho)
aws - 12 month free VM instance and other goodies (please remember to cancel before 12 months)
about all i have right now
maiden nimbus
any idea?
boreal iron
make sure your bot actually has access to the emoijs
maiden nimbus
make sure your bot actually has access to the emoijs
bot have access
otherwise there would be no work on regular commands
spark flint
azure - free $100 student credit every once a while (not sure how frequently) if...
I’ll add those, will make sure to put to remember to cancel
split hazel
aws makes it very difficult to turn/delete resources off lmao
spark flint
Yeah
split hazel
so make sure to keep a track of them
spark flint
They randomly charged £250 once
quartz kindle
WTF
spark flint
Luckily refunded because they admitted it was their fault
They counted bandwidth for something which I cancelled 2 months prior
split hazel
im gonna start using virtual credit cards soon for cloud providers
quartz kindle
google compute engine changed their free tier from f1micro to n1micro or soemthing like that, free tier went from 512mb ram to 1gb ram
but they didnt change my account
split hazel
yeah they changed it
quartz kindle
so they started charign me normal price for the f1 micro
spark flint
Oh the fun’s of free shit
quartz kindle
lmao
quartz kindle
imagine paying more for less power
split hazel
they also set the default disk to a premium disk which made me accumulate a 4 pence charge before i noticed
boreal iron
imagine paying more for less power
you dont care anymore if you're rich, sir
maiden nimbus
can someone send link for auctions
boreal iron
split hazel
lmao
boreal iron
why hiding your email address?
split hazel
that is scary
boreal iron
we will take care of it, trust us
split hazel
im gonna double check my aws to make sure i deleted all of my free usage stuff
spark flint
why hiding your email address?
I get enough spam as is 😂
Nah seriously though, I get so much spam
split hazel
honestly though a cloud provider like aws can easily fuck people over
even big businesses
charge extra and claim its because they had a spike in traffic
sudden geyser
Luckily refunded because they admitted it was their fault
I've seen most hosts be generous about accidents whether by the host or the user
sudden geyser
From a few hundred dollars to $48k because someone used your account to mine bitcoin
spark flint
Ah shit ignore me leaking my non proxied addresses
quartz kindle
I get enough spam as is 😂
lmao
split hazel
should i just pay my fuck up or dispute it lmao
boreal iron
Ah shit ignore me leaking my non proxied addresses
already uploading on 4 chan
sudden geyser
dispute it
split hazel
i mean its only 4 pence-
sudden geyser
you should be petty about money
spark flint
This is a good deal tho (an 8gb ram server and 3 2gb ram servers for €12 a month)
split hazel
i'll dispute it then lmao
boreal iron
invest them in 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000001 bitcoins tho
split hazel
i'll gamble my 4p bill in bitcoin
bitcoin totally crashed right now which totally means it will totally go up
boreal iron
which totally means it will totally go up
which means it will totally crash after again
split hazel
you're just dead 💀
you dont know the way of crypto like an ambitious almost adult native person
boreal iron
you can't sell it if the value is high (enough) as nobody wanna buy it, and more and more governments are banning crypto stuff
that's how the world is
the average idiot thinking he can get rich by investing into bitcoin usually looses most or anything
boreal iron
that's how it is, dude
don't expect an OS dev to know things about the real world aka. realitiy
split hazel
earnest phoenix
...
can I put array as type?
it seems obvious but idk
in my schema, in the cards: ```js
cards: {type: Array, default: {}}
ok
quartz kindle
why is the default an object tho?
earnest phoenix
why is the default an object tho?
nope it's not empty, i just put it as example
round cove
Ah
earnest phoenix
it'll be like this: ```js
{"Giant", "Archers", "Minions"}
my bad
boreal iron
wouldn't even be a valid obj tho
round cove
Exactly
rocky hearth
do I need to enable DIRECT_MESSAGES intent to dm a user?
earnest phoenix
cards: { common: {type: Array}, epic: {type: Array}
}
``` something like this?no, is there even such an intent? i dont think so
round cove
```js
cards: { common: {type: Array}, epic: {type: Array}
}
``` something like t...
You can create an object that matches what you want.
So in this case for mongoose you'll just say it's type object.
Outside of that (and probably your default) you'll give it a body with values.
orchid nebula
no, is there even such an intent? i dont think so
There is one.
rocky hearth
no, is there even such an intent? i dont think so
yes there is. but I think it only enables dm message event
boreal iron
yeah might be the case
earnest phoenix
Outside of that (and probably your default) you'll give it a body with values.
ty
boreal iron
lmao, that's how development works
solemn cipher
bug 420
earnest phoenix
I think mongodb is easy now
all the inventory (80% info) in a few lines
it'll be less in vsc, it's in replit's test bot
neat ingot
mongodb is king
earnest phoenix
yeah
neat ingot
but you need to neaten your formatting 😛
earnest phoenix
yeah
earnest phoenix
I think mongodb is easy **now**
my eyes
well it's in a test bot
will make it better when passing to vsc
Can I add data to it later?
I have some things planned to add (chests..., i want to add them later in the profile not now
cinder patio
The callback doesn't get instantly called
at first asd will always be undefined
You should check if asd is undefined, and if it is render something else
earnest phoenix
I have some things planned to add (chests..., i want to add them later in the pr...
can I?
rigid maple
You should check if `asd` is undefined, and if it is render something else
Can I do something like giving a loading screen until the data comes in?
lament rock
or pre-render the page and then polyfill the data in later
sudden geyser
Is it possible to forcibly block on a promise as opposed to using await
lament rock
block the whole thread?
sudden geyser
yes
lament rock
There was something cursed flaze sent where it used a while loop. You could hook in where it detects while a value is undefined
or spawn the logic off onto another thread. Idk if it offers a pause function
sudden geyser
Actually that gives me an idea. So something like this.
function block(promise) {
let value;
promise.then((val) => {
value = val;
});
while (!value) {};
return value;
}
But then you'd have to block on that thread
cinder patio
why would you ever want to do something like this
wheat mesa
flaz sent this a few days ago
sudden geyser
why would you ever want to do something like this
for science
marble juniper
anyone knows docker and postgres
cuz im seriously frustrated lol
no point in me explaining the situation if nobody can help me
wheat mesa
I know some postgres with typeorm but I don't know docker
marble juniper
Well
Actually all I need to do is copy all the data from one remote postgres server to another remote postgres server
but idk how to do that
And yes I searched for this online
But didn't find anything helpful
That would also work on windows
boreal iron
dumb the database and import it?!
boreal iron
HUH?!
marble juniper
boreal iron
just login as database user or root and export the database
boreal iron
marble juniper
how do I install pg_dump on windows
boreal iron
there's nothing to install
all of it as for any other database engine is already on board
marble juniper
Bruh wdym
boreal iron
you gotta hop into your bin dir, open a command prompt and call the pb_dump.exe yourdatabase > filetostore.sql
may requires you to authentificate yourself, not sure here
you will see
marble juniper
The postgres server is not on my machine
im trying to dump the data from another machine
you know
boreal iron
well you can also do a remote dump
boreal iron
if you're fully broken and have no clue, then use any app, login into your remote db and let it do the job for you, using the UI
marble juniper
Fine ig
lyric mountain
it's quite easy to take a dump with postgres
boreal iron
How can you actually have no access to pg_dump?
lyric mountain
is there a bare minimum postgres install option?
maybe it doesn't come with any plugin
there's a way to make a backup without pg_dump, you just get way less options to customize what u dump
boreal iron
I think like he actually has no ssh access to his database machine
lyric mountain
tf
lyric mountain
like, maybe u can disable dump for some users
spark flint
getting my mongo hacked
lyric mountain
but that'd mean s/he doesn't have root access
boreal iron
STOP GUESSING, HE DIDN'T TELL US
That's why I asked
How can you actually have no access to pg_dump?
just let him use any sort of phpmyadmin tool, navicat or however they're all called
spark flint
how can i automatically get the userid from this message
@empty scarab Bump done! :thumbsup:
Check it out [on DISBOARD](https://disboard.org/server/886667952617844826).```nodejs
marble juniper
Probably gonna use pgadmin
marble juniper
how can i automatically get the userid from this message
```
<@7982451884138168...
regex
spark flint
ignore the fact i'm making a bump tracker - its specifically for private use to credit people for bumping
boreal iron
just get the mention?
marble juniper
Do you use discord.js or not
spark flint
the userid is always in the same place
discord.js
and its in embed description
so its not a mention
is it not
marble juniper
I think discord.js has parsers for it
boreal iron
It has
lyric mountain
Probably gonna use pgadmin
pgadmin won't dump without pg_dump
boreal iron
is it not
well yeah, then stick with regex, without global flag
which means it takes the first result only
you should also cover the nickname mentioning format
<@USER_ID> and <@!USER_ID>
marble juniper
pgadmin won't dump without pg_dump
Actually nah I will use datagrip and use that instead cuz its a gui tool lol
its a jetbrains product btw
lyric mountain
its a jetbrains product btw
ik, its feature are also embedded on intellij
marble juniper
Im pretty sure datagrip can just install the binaries necessary to operate the stuff
lyric mountain
not on remote
marble juniper
bruh
Well my situation is a bit more complicated cuz im using supabase
Which is a backend as a service
and the database is on there so yeah
Whatever im gonna ask in thier server instead
Cya
boreal iron
earnest phoenix
so in mongodb, $inc is increase, then $dec is decrease?
spark flint
well yeah, then stick with regex, without global flag
i just did message.embeds[0].description.split('>')[0].replace("<@", "")
ik its cringe
i also added ! removal underneath
spark flint
even better
message.embeds[0].description.split('>')[0].replace("<@", "").replace("!", "")
wheat mesa
even better idea: use substring and indexof so your eyes don't burn
spark flint
my intention was to blind every dev
boreal iron
even better
How about using match and a capture group?
const str1 = "@empty scarab Bump done! :thumbsup: Check it out [on DISBOARD](https://disboard.org/server/886667952617844826).";
console.log(str1.match(/<@!?([0-9]+)>/));
// Array ["@empty scarab", "798245188413816833"]
regex is slow
boreal iron
you're slow
wheat mesa
and unreadable
boreal iron
you're unreadable
wheat mesa
true
personally if it's in the same spot every time, the substring will do the trick quite easily
boreal iron
waff... wall... wuff.. fflee.... I CAN'T
spark flint
How about using match and a capture group?
```js
const str1 = "<@79824518841381...
nah who needs regex when you got big buns .replace.replace
shy turret
just a random poll sorta: do you guys prefer jwts or sessions?
acoustic reef
bruh i got ads in dms from a dude in this server
@fathom drift
fuck
can i just make a ticket somewhere or some stuff
sudden geyser
contact some mod
spark flint
<@!944898787531427871>
earnest phoenix
import __prismaClient from '@prisma/client';
const prisma = new __prismaClient.PrismaClient();
async function main() {
prisma.$on('beforeExit', async () => {
console.log('disconnecting from database');
await prisma.$disconnect();
console.log('disconnected from database');
});
console.log('connecting to database');
console.time('connected');
await prisma.$connect();
console.timeEnd('connected');
console.log('connected to database');
}
main();
Console:
connecting to database
connected: 1:05.683 (m:ss.mmm)
connected to database
why it takes so long?
lyric mountain
datbase is on the same server?
earnest phoenix
is a mongodb cluster
earnest phoenix
```ts
import __prismaClient from '@prisma/client';
const prisma = new __prismaC...
schema.prisma:
// This is your Prisma schema file,
// learn more about it in the docs: https://pris.ly/d/prisma-schema
datasource db {
provider = "mongodb"
url = env("MONGO_URL")
}
generator client {
provider = "prisma-client-js"
previewFeatures = ["mongoDb"]
}
model User {
id String @id @default(dbgenerated()) @map("_id") @db.ObjectId
email String @unique
name String?
}
I am redoing my portfolio and I want to know if this looks good (mostly speaking about the tabs up top) I want to know if the tabs look good or if I should just go with a typical nav
cinder patio
I like it
sudden geyser
The UI looks fine imo, except for the white bar at the top (but that's probably not intentional)
Though you could fix some of the grammar, like capitalizing "name" in the title and specifying what kind of developer you are
lyric mountain
Though you could fix some of the grammar, like capitalizing "name" in the title ...
nononono, Typing Like This Is A Serious Issue
just lowercase "My" and everything is fine
sudden geyser
That's how titles are written
lyric mountain
no
sudden geyser
At least formally.
sudden geyser
No, titles work like that too.
They could make the "My" lowercase if they wanted.
But formal titles use lots of capitalization.
cinder patio
my should be lowercase here though
uppercase letters are only used at the start of the sentence
or in names
sudden geyser
This is about titles.
not sentences
If I ever become an English teacher and see a student write "Hamlet's fight against Denmark" I will immediately fail them.
earnest phoenix
```ts
import __prismaClient from '@prisma/client';
const prisma = new __prismaC...
boreal iron
uppercase letters are only used at the start of the sentence
And in titles where every word starts with a capital letter
sudden geyser
Can bots use other bot's slash commands? For some reason, it's a permission on the developer portal.
boreal iron
Err no only clients should be able to
boreal iron
By storing the timestamp when somebody votes
If somebody runs the command again check if 12h are already passed
torn salmon
thankyou for your answer
earnest phoenix
just lowercase "My" and everything is fine
yea I already fixed that
https://lynnandtonic.com/ okay so this is pretty cool
@lyric mountain So apparently klay is either correct or every dev site i've seen is wrong cause a lot of people do it like "Hello My Name is Mistyy"
earnest phoenix
I guess it comes down to preference
spark flint
yeah
spark flint
this looks better to me
this looks better
wheat mesa
and are a beginner frontend dev
marble juniper
this looks better to me
Did you just change the spelling or what did u change
marble juniper
I see
Besides what is it that you are working on
Just a portfolio website or something?
marble juniper
What u making it with
earnest phoenix
Nextjs + Mantine
marble juniper
Im always interested in website development so thats why im asking
marble juniper
Nextjs + Mantine
Yooooooooo
earnest phoenix
earnest phoenix
It really is
earnest phoenix
import type { NextPage } from 'next'
import {Container, Tabs} from "@mantine/core";
import About from "./about";
import Home from "./home";
const Main: NextPage = () => {
return (
<>
<Container>
<Tabs grow position="center" variant="outline">
<Tabs.Tab label="Home"><Home /></Tabs.Tab>
<Tabs.Tab label="About"><About /></Tabs.Tab>
<Tabs.Tab label="Projects" disabled>Third tab content</Tabs.Tab>
</Tabs>
</Container>
</>
)
}
export default Main
This is the entire "home" page
marble juniper
I personally love that I can just easily configure a primary color in mantine
earnest phoenix
It is how I display the content of different sites
marble juniper
Thats kinda what I wanted in other frameworks as well
earnest phoenix
I probably shouldn't be doing this as it doesn't change the url to that page it just stays on /
marble juniper
just like a single setting to change the primary color for everything
earnest phoenix
Yeee
marble juniper
My idea for mantine is to use it to make like a google docs
wheat mesa
I started messing around with mantine earlier, I like it but I have almost 0 experience with frontend frameworks so I still need to learn how react works in general
marble juniper
Same
I barely have any experience with react
Or actually web development in general
sudden geyser
what's that thing called when your app is fully rendered on the client side
marble juniper
Never really looked into it much but I wish I did
sudden geyser
I think it starts with an s
wheat mesa
Shitty?
marble juniper
Server side rendering?
sudden geyser
no but a good description of it
marble juniper
that wouldn't make sense though
sudden geyser
no not that either
earnest phoenix
I have 0 experience with react really I just know some stuff based on what i've seen other people use
wheat mesa
It’s called “something” 
marble juniper
I don't use mantine with nextjs lol
earnest phoenix
You should
marble juniper
nextjs is a bit overkill imo so I just use vite
earnest phoenix
how is nextjs overkill?
marble juniper
Vite is pretty poggers
earnest phoenix
So I assume you don't use react all at do ya
marble juniper
how is nextjs overkill?
If im just trying out mantine I don't need a full framework like next.js
earnest phoenix
Isn't vite a vue tool
sudden geyser
I want to go back to writing websites that receive all their UI and data from the server
earnest phoenix
Ah I see
marble juniper
vite is a tool for anything ngl
earnest phoenix
I heard it was a vue tool
sudden geyser
but there was this really interesting paradigm someone brought up in a video about the differences
boreal iron
I want to go back to writing websites that receive all their UI and data from th...
Imagine going back to the basics and write all code yourself instead of using frameworks 
marble juniper
Vite can be used in vue, react and also svelte
sudden geyser
Imagine going back to the basics and write all code yourself instead of using fr...
I still want a framework, but all the client side rending and handling has been cancerous for me to try getting right
History API, reloading, state management, security, etc.
marble juniper
I feel like if im just trying out mantine I don't need to use something like next.js
Besides im not doing anything on a production level
Thats all
boreal iron
I wasn’t speaking about JS at all my gosh
boreal iron
What has php to do with frontend
marble juniper
But sure if you wanna use next.js go ahead I aint stopping you
boreal iron
Wtf is wrong with you
marble juniper
I personally just prefer vite
sudden geyser
what's wrong is I can't remember the word I'm looking for
earnest phoenix
what's wrong is I can't remember the word I'm looking for
Single Page Application?
sudden geyser
YES THAT
earnest phoenix
Lmao
boreal iron
Tell me the word and i will remind you
earnest phoenix
It is what I currently do with my old portfolio
sudden geyser
yes that's what's been giving me a pain
earnest phoenix
How come?
sudden geyser
this #development message
I was also looking for this video https://youtu.be/860d8usGC0o
earnest phoenix
that link looks sketch /s
boreal iron
Video ads you genius
coral sigil
ublock origin 😏
boreal iron
Something is wrong with you
earnest phoenix
Video ads you genius
I can still block ads in videos
brave does it
You just have to ask it nicely three times and click ur heels as well
boreal iron
That’s no network wide solution
earnest phoenix
No but it is a solution
boreal iron
It’s nothing
coral sigil
i haven't been able to get pihole to block video ads, thats why i use ublock origin on top of that
boreal iron
Shhh… you’re too young to understand how the internet works
wheat mesa
Fake has been around since Pangea split
boreal iron
lmao
lyric mountain
<@!350836145921327115> So apparently klay is either correct or every dev site i'...
I only ever saw everything titlecased when it was real titles, like movies or books, where the title is actually a name
it looks VERY weird on anything else tbh
earnest phoenix
This works, but how do I add a line break?
coral sigil
This works, but how do I add a line break?
\n
earnest phoenix
\n
guild.systemChannel.send(`Hello, I'm Universe List. Thanks for inviting me! /n test`)
like that?
barren anchor
no
coral sigil
like that?
that will put "test" on another line
earnest phoenix
that will put "test" on another line
ok ty!
coral sigil
oh, sorry, u need \ not /
barren anchor
guild.systemChannel.send(`Hello, I'm Universe List. Thanks for inviting me! \n test`)
He could risk something, doing something totally crazy and use uppercase on the whole line 
half bear
how can i use emojis and other things for github readme?
lyric mountain
how can i use emojis and other things for github readme?
windows + .
earnest phoenix
my discord bot sends this message: Use the command -help to see what I can do!
lyric mountain
isn't it supposed to?
earnest phoenix
isn't it supposed to?
How can I make the -help in code blocks
without breaking the bot
lyric mountain
```
text
```
and "without breaking the bot" makes me worried that u don't know what ur doing
earnest phoenix
I'll show u what i mean
guild.systemChannel.send(`Use the command -help to see what I can do!`)
thats the code so far
lyric mountain
so?
earnest phoenix
but I can't add double ` inside that code
earnest phoenix
look, so can I do:
guild.systemChannel.send(`Use the command `-help` to see what I can do!`)
would that work?
boreal iron
Escape it
earnest phoenix
no right?
earnest phoenix
ohhhh ok ty
lyric mountain
```
guild.systemChannel.send(`Use the command `-help` to see what I can do!`)
``...
use 👏 "
spark flint
or just do js guild.systemChannel.send("Use the command `-help` to see what I can do!")
boreal iron
lyric mountain
or just do ```js
guild.systemChannel.send("Use the command `-help` to see what I...
that's what I said
boreal iron
What she said?
Might not be the best idea tho to send a message into a random channel even if it’s supposed to be the system channel
spark flint
that's what I said
my god awful wifi says ur welcome
boreal iron
Are you on crack?
spark flint
nah
earnest phoenix
Might not be the best idea tho to send a message into a random channel even if i...
sorry I was fixing it
I didn't know what channel I should send the welcome message to tho
boreal iron
I wouldn’t send a message at all tbh
But that’s up to
Don’t forget to check if you actually have the permissions to send a message at first
earnest phoenix
mhm the bot has the SEND MESSAGES permission
boreal iron
And if a system channel exists anyway
Doesn’t mean Someone inviting your bot also grants him that permission
earnest phoenix
Doesn’t mean Someone inviting your bot also grants him that permission
true
boreal iron
When coding you always need to try to cover any possibility
earnest phoenix
When coding you always need to try to cover any possibility
ok, that helps me tysm
spark flint
MongoNotConnectedError: MongoClient must be connected to perform this operation
but
mongo is connected
ah it works now
quartz kindle
magick
fallen holly
if i make my slash command multi guild and wait an hrs to test the cmd. and change the slash cmd do i have to wait another hr to retest the cmd
wheat mesa
you can specify a guild id when creating a slash command to test it instantly
fallen holly
you can specify a guild id when creating a slash command to test it instantly
yea ik that but just asking
if the cmd is already registered do i have to wait hr to test it
wheat mesa
no? You can specify a guild id like I said
for testing
if you're for some reason testing in production, then it may take up to an hour for global slash commands to appear
but just specify a guild id and your changes will appear instantly
boreal iron
Updates on commands are mostly instant but no guarantees on that as I experienced delays my own already
fallen holly
for testing
ik i'm doing that. when i publish my bot globally and change code do i need to wait hr to use that cmd
wheat mesa
Updates on commands are mostly instant but no guarantees on that as I experience...
This ^
You shouldn’t need to change your code very often in prod anyways, only for updates and bug fixes. If it’s a severe bug then take your bot offline and fix the issues before putting it back up
fallen holly
aight
sudden geyser
ik i'm doing that. when i publish my bot globally and change code do i need to w...
It depends. The 1 hour cooldown is only really important if the command doesn't exist beforehand or if it exists but hasn't been refreshed.
wheat mesa
It can take up to 1 hour, but it doesn’t always take that long
sudden geyser
In the case of the latter, running the command should trigger an error for the user, but reappear and work just fine the next time.
wheat mesa
Discord is usually pretty fast with it now, but it’s not guaranteed
boreal iron
Im wildly guessing any guild does frequently do updates (with Discords backend) - in this case every hour - based on its creating date, in order to that not all guilds do backend requests in the same second
If you luckily register your command close before that update happens, I guess that’s the case it doesn’t take an hour
boreal iron
Wut?
bright hornet
message.users.cache.fetch(args[0]) is not working :v
austere surge
message.users ?
boreal iron
No
bright hornet
Wut?
i mean i wanted to use id instead of pinging them, like ?message <id> <message>
boreal iron
You wanna fetch an api user?
boreal iron
i mean i wanted to use id instead of pinging them, like `?message <id> <message>...
Yeah and you wanna fetch that user by its ID after?
Is the user a guild member or just a random discord user you wanna fetch?
bright hornet
Is the user a guild member or just a random discord user you wanna fetch?
guild member
bright hornet
Yeah and you wanna fetch that user by its ID after?
ye?
boreal iron
guild member
Oh a guild member
Wrong link then
it’s guild.members.fetch(id) then
There we go
bright hornet
Ill look for it thanks
fallen holly
what is wrong with this
const commands = [];
const commandFolders = readdirSync('./slashCommands');
for (const folder of commandFolders){
const commandFiles = readdirSync(`./slashCommands/${folder}`).filter(files =>files.endsWith('.js'));
for(const files of commandFiles){
const command = require(`../slashCommands/${folder}/${files}`);
commands.push(command.data.toJSON());
}
}
err is
commands.push(command.data.toJSON());
^
TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'toJSON')
command.data is undefined
Why would You actually push that as JSON to an array?
What do you wanna archive?
fallen holly
that code is just to have subfolders inside of the main folder like slashCmd > moderation > ban.js
bright hornet
@boreal iron sorry for ping, but there's any documents for set-config? for channels instead using name or id to set?
fallen holly
No I mean why do you push command.data to an array?
idk what it does it was in discord.js guilde to make slash cmd
https://discordjs.guide/interactions/registering-slash-commands.html#guild-commands
quartz kindle
idk what it does it was in discord.js guilde to make slash cmd
https://discordj...
as it says in the guide, that code is to register slash commands
also as it says in the guide, it only works if your command files are made exactly like the command handling part of the guide says
more specifically, it requires all your commands to have this
your error basically means that you have one or more commands that do not have the above structure
fallen holly
aight thx
fallen holly
huh
boreal iron
The data of the example above simply is an object, you can write yourself instead of using this ugly, shitty, dirty, useless, … builder tools
boreal iron
data:
{
name: ping,
description: "Replies with Pong!"
}
That’s literally what your data is after using the useless builder tool
boreal iron
<@!243443167704121344> sorry for ping, but there's any documents for set-config?...
Wdym?
boreal iron
Oh you wanna create a set-channel command?
Does it create a channel, move or edit one or …?
novel canopy
hello
boreal iron
like ?set-channel for curtain command
You gotta be quick… going to sleep in a few minutes
bright hornet
Does it create a channel, move or edit one or …?
no no, after using set-channel, only there can use the commands of my bot
zinc condor
waifu.pics 
Damn I havent been checking on the stats for that thing in a long ass time, it got this big?
I should update it
left osprey
lol
boreal iron
no no, after using set-channel, only there can use the commands of my bot
Sorry I don’t get it
You wanna overwrite the channel permissions?
Is that what you mean?
zinc condor
pretty sure they are saying that bot commands would only be usable if they set that channel
to prevent the bot from being entirely useless for events using channel perms but also preventing bot spam
boreal iron
I feel like he wanna set a channel the bot is listening to exclusively
(for commands)
@bright hornet
Is that what you wanna do?
bright hornet
<@!431099770212319232>
Is that what you wanna do?
yep
boreal iron
Well once somebody runs the command, you verify the channel he mentioned, then put the channel ID into your database (associated with the guild ID)
After that you create a property for this guild defining the channel the bot should listen to
(e.g. guild.commandChannel = channel_id)
On an app restart you read the database and update the guild property
Once somebody executes a command you gotta check if the guild property commandChannel exists and if the current channel matches the one defined in the property
Sounds complicated but is actually pretty easy
earnest phoenix
https://i.kawaii.sh/hZib7TC.png
Damn that is pretty cool!
That project looks rather interesting I was just looking at the waifu-api repo is that all the code for the api?
If so I am interested in how it all works as I am limited on my knowledge of go and I haven't really made many apis in it so I am curious how you're actually serving the files
zinc condor
That project looks rather interesting I was just looking at the waifu-api repo i...
yep, hasnt been updated in a while though, was thinking of rewriting it soon to add some more stuff like custom image lists and exclusion lists and all that
with optional custom tokens
earnest phoenix
I see
zinc condor
Im uploading the images to S3 and serving it through the S3 api
earnest phoenix
Ah
zinc condor
So go uploads to s3 and cloudflare caches it so i dont pay for 20tb of traffic monthly
earnest phoenix
kek
zinc condor
so yeah its not very expensive to run, 8$ a month?
zinc condor
Go very fast and scales on multiple threads so I can run it on a VPS (contabo since high spec and cheap). S3 is handled by S3 and uploads are the only thing i pay for
boreal iron
That is pretty cheap
Didn’t you already cry about a 5$ vps today
zinc condor
Since downloads are cached by Cloudflare after one time and discord auto caches images too
earnest phoenix
Didn’t you already cry about a 5$ vps today <:KEKW:727825308404940800>
That wasn't me
That was someone else
I haven't talked here much today
lmfao
boreal iron
Ahh nvm then, I’m old
zinc condor
anyway if i was to write waifu.pics today I would have used rust
Go is a little funky structured
boreal iron
At least I remembered something
earnest phoenix
Since downloads are cached by Cloudflare after one time and discord auto caches ...
Ah, that is pretty sweet
I have been looking for projects to try and contribute to (with my limited knowledge of course)
zinc condor
https://github.com/JSH32/Backpack this is a project im working on now
Although its kind of... not a starter project. Its based on the similar things as Waifu.pics but selfhosted and not for public image serving
zinc condor
Yeah its like pomf or lolisafe (bad name) if you have heard of it
basically screenshot tool uploads to it or its like anonfile but with accounts
earnest phoenix
Ah, nah I have never heard of them sadly
waifu pics is an interesting project though
zinc condor
yeah i need to update it since popularity
earnest phoenix
Is the entire service just user's uploading their own pics to it?
zinc condor
people upload pics to it and it goes to dashboard for me to sort through or approve
i need to make a thing that says that since lots of ppl get confused
no way in hell would people keep the upload box free from garbage without manual veritifcations 
earnest phoenix
Ah I was thinking how you'd manage making sure someone doesn't mark a nsfw as non nsfw
zinc condor
Yeah i look thru it. I also make sure that nothing is like nekos.life with the loli pics and whatnot
earnest phoenix
Are you the only one who does verifications?
zinc condor
yeah, not many uploads come in surprisingly
every month or so i get 150 images total
earnest phoenix
Yeah i look thru it. I also make sure that nothing is like nekos.life with the l...
Oh god I stopped using nekos.life recently cause I found that
I still have yet to remove it from a bot im using it in tho
zinc condor
yeah this was created because i had a huge discord bot project i was making before that i gave up on (i got tired of discord bot dev honestly) but i made waifu.pics for this reason
nekos.life too much questionable content
first it was written in shitty js code overnight but i rewrote in go later so it could serve mass requests to the public
earnest phoenix
I am also getting tired of discord bot development and am trying to find projects I can contrib to so I can further my experiences
zinc condor
try making some sort of content management system, a basic one
like Backpack is meant for files and pastebin like stuff, but you could do articles too
earnest phoenix
I don't really want to make anything of my own since I don't have money to spend right now
Which is why im looking for projects I like to contrib to
zinc condor
what does money have to do with it? Writing code is free
earnest phoenix
Well yes but I wouldn't be able to host any of it
zinc condor
Ah, here its like 12 (US)
I was going to suggest oracle cloud, it gives you two free intel VPSs running with 2gig of ram each and 1cpu core
earnest phoenix
12?
zinc condor
Yeah
earnest phoenix
What state do you live in
zinc condor
Illinois
earnest phoenix
Cause here in Washington it is 18
:^)
Unless I have a legal guardian sign off
and I don't trust my dad with access to my money
zinc condor
I was going to suggest oracle cloud, it gives you two free intel VPSs running wi...
it gives you 4cores and 24 gigs of ram which you can split 4 ways how you want
Ah fair enough, difficult situations.
I hope you have physical money saved up to put into your account then next year
earnest phoenix
Nope
My dad got my social security card stolen so I can't get a job
I am as broke as a joke rn
And due to covid I can't get an appointment to get a new one
zinc condor
My dad got my social security card stolen so I can't get a job
as in he stole it or it got stolen from him?
boreal iron
I see I should sell my unused system resources to < 18yo dudes
earnest phoenix
It got stolen from him
boreal iron
Taking their soul as payment
zinc condor
Have you tried calling social security administration?
earnest phoenix
I see I should sell my unused system resources to < 18yo dudes
I will give my soul :)
earnest phoenix
Have you tried calling social security administration?
Indeed
They put me on hold for an hour and a half and then hung up on me
zinc condor
I see I should sell my unused system resources to < 18yo dudes
this guy needs an identity theft lawyer not server space 
earnest phoenix
twice
I've decided I will just have to wait a bit cause I can't ever get through to em
Either way it doesn't stop me from taking online gigs like bot dev (ew but whatever)
boreal iron
this guy needs an identity theft lawyer not server space <:ASpeepoWeird:69794812...
Or somebody who doesn’t care about his personal information but about his money
earnest phoenix
I still have a paypal and a cash app my dad gave me
so I have two ways of storing money
boreal iron
Gimme money and I will create a vps with the resources you need, I got too much unused left
earnest phoenix
Welp it sucks I am broke
I have an old laptop that shuts off if the screen is placed wrong
If I open it too far or too little it shuts off
earnest phoenix
Cool you got a server
boreal iron
Aye
earnest phoenix
I also have some server space my friend lets me use but I can't host anything major on it
Only a website or a bot
And bots are what I wanna stay away from
boreal iron
I’ve got quite a lot of resources left after upgrading it recently
earnest phoenix
Nice
@zinc condor should I continue studying go to make fast apis or should i just say screw it and keep using ts
zinc condor
<@!462828548080664577> should I continue studying go to make fast apis or should...
do whatever you like, theres Go, TS, Rust. All of them are super in demand
earnest phoenix
Mmm I was just wondering what you'd suggest
zinc condor
Web APIs wont go away so either way you are set in terms of skill
earnest phoenix
thanks tho
zinc condor
Well, TS is the easiest and is clean
earnest phoenix
But at a certain point it will get slow wont it?
zinc condor
Go is messy as fuck till you get used to it but its really fast
Rust is the hardest but it makes extremely clean code
zinc condor
But at a certain point it will get slow wont it?
So, TS is a bit weird here
V8 which runs JS code (which TS compiles to) is a JIT compiler and concurrency makes things run fast
Its the slowest out of the 3 (slower than Java too, its a misconception that java is slow, minecraft is just written like garbage) but its still incredibly fast
earnest phoenix
I see
So I am fine using typescript for a good while before I would notice any performance issues assuming I wrote my code properly
zinc condor
the only performance issued you would notice are if you write games or threaded code
earnest phoenix
Ah I see
zinc condor
Most languages have multiple threads which lets you do two things at once but JS has one actual calling thread for anything other than FS/HTTP tasks
quartz kindle
how you write your code matters much more than which language you use
zinc condor
so promises or async functions you make are still run on one thread. Its just that waiting for http requests runs on multiple because node or chrome runs separately and resolves promises
quartz kindle
many people write shit js code then blame the language for being slow or bloated
zinc condor
many people write shit js code then blame the language for being slow or bloated
actually, JS is optimizing after multiple passes so most people blame the language for being slow when its not even slow in the first place
Unless they just write stupid code, then their code is written to be slow
boreal iron
Not only shitty JS code
quartz kindle
and people take npm modules as the standard, while tons of npm modules are actually garbage
zinc condor
But yeah one benefit to compiled languages or even Java over JS/TS is multithreading, which does theoretically exist in Javascript for IO tasks but doesn't exist anywhere else
Which is why a JS based game engine doesn't really exist in big games outside of simple scripts
Lua does exist in that world because LuaJIT is almost as fast as C, its quirky for scripting
quartz kindle
well for a game engine you wanna access the gpu more than anything, so you need langs that can do that, js is too abstracted for that
zinc condor
well for a game engine you wanna access the gpu more than anything, so you need ...
Mmm youd be surprised, the only API you need to render to the gpu is OpenGL or vulkan
Node to JS bindings exist for that already
Thats what everything is based on and thats all you need
quartz kindle
yeah but its an extra layer of abstraction
calling native code from js is not cheap
zinc condor
True but abstraction doesn't matter as much anymore, CPUs are fast and its cheaper than you think (ive embedded V8 in programs before, lots of misconceptions about JS)
In fact, it would be pretty easy to make an engine in C++ and define scripting API for entities in JS, its just usually not proffered over C# or Lua
The reason a pure JS game engine cant exist easily is because you need many threads to handle many things. Like physics cant be handled on the main thread
that will absolutely kill the performance
zinc condor
calling native code from js is not cheap
Although, you could get around that by making bindings to a physics engine in C++ that uses threading and resolving promises, just like IO in JS, but doing it natively in just Node is impossible
In fact getting anything on the screen is impossible without C bindings
that goes for any scripting language
earnest phoenix
What are your opinions on using a framework like nestjs for apis
Do you think people should use them or just go with just something like express, koa or fastify
zinc condor
What are your opinions on using a framework like nestjs for apis
Nestjs is very nice
It simplifies handling for Middleware and auth with recievers. here in rust with actix we have the same thing and it's hailed as a design choice
From what I've seen nest is both light while giving you features of swing routing so I'd use that
Plus nestjs uses express under the hood
Well OK scratch that
Updates made it use fastify
zinc condor
Yeah
earnest phoenix
So we are the same you dont see it as a bad choice to use in production apps?
quartz kindle
they are not bad choices, but at the same time they are clear examples of npm useless bloat
you can easily make a good webserver using the built in http/https/http2 and it will pretty much outperform all of those npm modules
its basically convenience in exchange for performance
quartz kindle
there are plenty of examples
pale vessel
require("http").createServer((req, res) => { ... }).listen(port, cb);
zinc condor
they are not bad choices, but at the same time they are clear examples of npm us...
It builds on top of the native http APIs. the scripts are small enough that the performance difference will be so little
If you really cared about performance you wouldnt use JS or any scripting language for that matter, you would use Go or Rust
As for performance bloat, I agree, dont use modules for everything, only when it makes sense
quartz kindle
It builds on top of the native http APIs. the scripts are small enough that the ...
try it, you'd be surprised
zinc condor
I use Rust with actix, nothing will surprise me anymore, 1ms response times on localhost
Fastest framework I think is Drogon for C++ with some other ones in the middle and then actix is #3 top speed
quartz kindle
i mean, you'll be surprised just how bad npm libs can be compared to doing it yourself
zinc condor
Well its true for a lot of cases, nestjs is not one of them
quartz kindle
a simple example is the well known ws package for websockets
its pretty much the standard
until i made my own websocket using net and it turned out to be 10x faster
many of "defacto standard" libs are just not good enough to be considered standards
zinc condor
maybe so, i stick away from Node for server apps
My primary use case for JS/TS is frontends and simple apps I dont deploy anywhere outside of personal use or scripting
or embedding
https://github.com/diatomfn/tranquil did a whole thing on that actually
replaced it recently with ivm native portion
quartz kindle
yes, my point is a lot of issues with js are blamed on the language, when it should be blamed on the ecosystem
zinc condor
yeah
lament rock
send help
zinc condor
interesting choice in theme
lament rock
my fingers are on fire from remaking my typings package for the past 5 hours
theme is called sweet.
austere surge
icon theme looks realy nic
pale vessel
probably just the icons though
earnest phoenix
until i made my own websocket using `net` and it turned out to be 10x faster
Im not as smart as you to make my own stuff
:^)
I still don't even know how websockets work when making a chat app
zinc condor
https://i.kawaii.sh/yHAouz-.mp4 rate webdesign
radiant kraken
decent
pale vessel
i saw something suspicious
austere surge
very cool
zinc condor
took two years to finish the UI because im bad at UX and i kept project hopping
then did a rewrite of the UI in like 2 days
earnest phoenix
https://i.kawaii.sh/yHAouz-.mp4 rate webdesign
looks pretty damn good
austere surge
the vents in the roof wym
earnest phoenix
until i made my own websocket using `net` and it turned out to be 10x faster
You need to understand that not everyone is as skilled as you
pale vessel
zinc condor
You need to understand that not everyone is as skilled as you
I just make my own scripting language with threading and http library
earnest phoenix
https://i.kawaii.sh/yHAouz-.mp4 rate webdesign
is that pure css?
zinc condor
wasnt very fast, did it for experience
zinc condor
is that pure css?
used chakra + react with customizations
zinc condor
hey Riku have you heard of mantine?
the pokemon?
earnest phoenix
no the react comp+hook lib
feral aspen
Is it possible to manually launch 2 shards instead of setting it to "auto"?
sudden geyser
https://i.kawaii.sh/yHAouz-.mp4 rate webdesign
feels very teleport-y
but looks nice
earnest phoenix
Is it possible to manually launch 2 shards instead of setting it to "auto"?
you give it the amount of shards you want it to spawn iirc
zinc condor
no the react comp+hook lib
oh this actually looks nice, might use in future
feral aspen
you give it the amount of shards you want it to spawn iirc
At 1,060 servers, how many shards should I be launching, supposedly?
earnest phoenix
At 1,060 servers, how many shards should I be launching, supposedly?
1
feral aspen
What happens if I launch 5, let's say?
earnest phoenix
Waste of resources
feral aspen
Meaning?
earnest phoenix
At max launch 2
quartz kindle
You need to understand that not everyone is as skilled as you
its not about people being as skilled as me, its about library developers being conscious about performance
zinc condor
I use it currently *very poorly but*
mf i wish i knew about this like a week ago
im not rewriting again
feral aspen
Doesn't sharding decrease the use of ram or?
earnest phoenix
It increases the amount of servers the bot can handle
earnest phoenix
Doesn't sharding decrease the use of ram or?
at huge amounts of guilds yes but not at all for small number of guilds
^
zinc condor
if you have a really big bot sharding lets you split the workload to multiple physical bot servers
I did it with my old bot
feral aspen
at huge amounts of guilds yes but not at all for small number of guilds
Can I manually launch 2 shards at 8 servers, the testing bot?
zinc condor
One program would connect to get shard count and split shards on multiple servers
earnest phoenix
I wish I had a bot that was somewhat successful then I wouldn't feel like i've wasted 4 years
earnest phoenix
Can I manually launch 2 shards at 8 servers, the testing bot?
idk ask tim(othy)
zinc condor
I wish I had a bot that was somewhat successful then I wouldn't feel like i've w...
anime bots get big, use anime pfp
quartz kindle
sure you can
earnest phoenix
anime bots get big, use anime pfp
I will use waifu.pics :^)
quartz kindle
you can launch 9999 shards with 1 server
earnest phoenix
You can launch tim with 1 server
*1 tnt cannon
earnest phoenix
you can launch 9999 shards with 1 server
do you mind if I launch u?
quartz kindle
lmao
zinc condor
you can launch 9999 shards with 1 server
well yes, but only one shard will be doing anything
wheat mesa
You cannot launch tim with one server
earnest phoenix
WAFFLE WHEN TF ARE U GETTING BACK
zinc condor
actually i dont think it will slow anything down since still only one websocket
wheat mesa
I was home like 3pm-6pm but I was tired so I took a nap instead of doing react with you
fallen holly
no errs but the / cmd is not registering
earnest phoenix
I've been sitting here waiting
wheat mesa
Yeah I would’ve but I fell asleep
quartz kindle
<:catbruh:781312261473304586> actually i dont think it will slow anything down s...
yeah its great for testing, you can launch a single shard with only your guild in it, logs in super fast
earnest phoenix
😔
slender thistle
Ti-Ti-Timo Timo, Ti-Timo Timothy~
wheat mesa
Now I’m at a friends house watching them play fucking super Mario bros on the wii
earnest phoenix
Ti-Ti-Timo Timo, Ti-Timo Timothy~
Hi shiv my precious brother
slender thistle
Hi bro
wheat mesa
earnest phoenix
That sounds boring
wheat mesa
It’s fun
earnest phoenix
Ti-Ti-Timo Timo, Ti-Timo Timothy~
w- wil-will you switch to python senpai
wheat mesa
Nah it’s fun
earnest phoenix
Do you ever get the urge to slam your hand down on a thumb tack?
wheat mesa
No
quartz kindle
Ti-Ti-Timo Timo, Ti-Timo Timothy~
shivaco is that you?
quartz kindle
senapi
earnest phoenix
span ei
I was typing fast
stfu
the "fuck up" is now sad
I will come to all ur houses and eat your bread and leave only the end pieces
slender thistle
shivaco is that you?
You never know
earnest phoenix
why did you shut him
wheat mesa
I will come to all ur houses and eat your bread and leave only the end pieces
Jokes on you I don’t own bread
fallen holly
no errs but the / cmd is not registering
earnest phoenix
You never know
You radiate python energy
You're clearly shivaco
wheat mesa
I don’t own bread because I can’t eat it lul
quartz kindle
pythonk
slender thistle
I radiate the gay also
earnest phoenix
no errs but the / cmd is not registering
Sorry but we don't help here we talk about gluten
quartz kindle
ghey
wheat mesa
you gluten free or smth?
Precisely!
fallen holly
Sorry but we don't help here we talk about gluten
the channel name is development
lol
fallen holly
lol
earnest phoenix
Im kidding ofc, have you made sure the bot has permissions, reloaded the client?
Sometimes it can be a visual bug
fallen holly
the bot has permission
earnest phoenix
Try reloading the client
fallen holly
what u mean by reloading
rose warren
Are they global slash commands or guild commands?
fallen holly
guild
earnest phoenix
Try checking in the bots dms if slash commands appear
If so then they might not be loading properly in the guild
earnest phoenix
Can you show how you're loading the commands?
fallen holly
rose warren
Did you invite your bot to the server with the applications.commands scope?
quartz kindle
https://sourceb.in/YsCS8pjWpz
you're not actually putting anything inside the commands array?
fallen holly
just to make sure
lament rock
@quartz kindle waiting for the day when you at me with that Discord compliant ws module that's tons faster
Already did a gateway v10 update D:
quartz kindle
<@!180112943612952577> waiting for the day when you at me with that Discord comp...
i mean, its been on github for months
wheat mesa
you're not actually putting anything inside the commands array?
This ^^^^
earnest phoenix
just to make sure
yea like tim said commands is an empty array so it wont load any commands to begin with
lament rock
Standalone?
rose warren
Yep
fallen holly
you're not actually putting anything inside the commands array?
this is what it is showing
commands.push(command.data.name, command)
^
TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'name')
Doesn't push only take one prop?
sudden geyser
yes no but what's wrong is that command.data.name
quartz kindle
this is what it is showing
```
commands.push(command.data.name, command)
...
command.data still doesnt exist
rose warren
Looks like it's command.name based off what you sent
quartz kindle
Standalone?
its not standalone as a websocket, its standalone as a raw discord shard
lament rock
is it tiny-discord websocketshard?
quartz kindle
ye
earnest phoenix
tim you're still working on tiny-discord?
rose warren
Oh Tim my bot uses djs-light in production now 
quartz kindle
kinda, there not much left to do with it for my use cases at the moment