development

[solemn latch]

looking at some verified bots and dont see any public privacy policy or TOS on many of them

[elder jewel]

idk, but im just annoyed rn since my bot is full, ppl can't use it
and most likely after waiting for a few weeks ill be told no since it grew to fast

[elder jewel]

shows up when you add them

[solemn latch]

on the invite page correct?

[dry imp]

it is a recent changes

[solemn latch]

ah okay

[dry imp]

i think

[sudden geyser]

people will go far to get a badge

[solemn latch]

good change

[sudden geyser]

in some ways it's actually smart

[elder jewel]

then they deserve it

[dry imp]

good and bad

[sudden geyser]

my friend was offered $1.4k for their account just for the badge

[dry imp]

too complicated for devs who do this just as a hobby

[elder jewel]

this though, im already annoyed since I know its going to happen

[sudden geyser]

verification is just so discord can say "yeah you can have x, y, and z"

[elder jewel]

no its not

[sudden geyser]

not so you can feel special because you have a blue badge and torture yourself writing html

[dry imp]

make your bot sucks so that it will grow "organically"

[elder jewel]

most servers do not trust unverified bots

[elder jewel]

Yeah, its like the most scuffed thing ever
"show growth, but not fast growth"

since fast growth is bad how?

[dry imp]

it used to be for the badge abuse

[solemn latch]

that flag is probably just to limit people submitting

yeah

[dry imp]

thats why the badge is limited

[elder jewel]

no, its not to limit submitting since they tell you weeks after you apply

[dry imp]

ppl abusing the system as always

[elder jewel]

there is no badge to be earned

like, do I really have to slow down growing my bot to be verified

[dry imp]

some ppl say they can change the ppl who review the bot by emailing them again, but some dont

[elder jewel]

yeah, and wait another few weeks whilst no one can use your bot

it can effectively kill all growth

[dry imp]

thats why you should make your bot sucks, so it will grow to the point that dsc approves it, then you make the changes

[elder jewel]

if it sucks, you can not get in 100 servers

[solemn latch]

👀 can you still request a 250 guild cap?

[sudden geyser]

you serious or joking

[elder jewel]

yeah, after waiting for weeks again

discord is not big on fast replys

[dry imp]

half

[solemn latch]

sounds like your issue with the system is discords reply time more than anything else

[elder jewel]

Yeah

I'd have no issue if it took them 2 days to say something about the bot

but no, they stop you from growing

and you may end up waiting 3 months

[sudden geyser]

it basically kills your bot's best window of becoming popular

[elder jewel]

^^

you work hard to grow it to the number needed to apply

and your shut down.

[solemn latch]

I disagree with that tbh

[sudden geyser]

because after those 2-3+ weeks your bot's initial popularity will fade away

[elder jewel]

I hit the 100 today, ive had 8 server owners join my discord and leave since they can not add it

[sudden geyser]

and after that good luck promoting it

[dry imp]

when is your bot submitted?

[solemn latch]

I would agree with that, if you are talking about something like a video game.
I dont think that applies for bots

[elder jewel]

when you enter a new server, ppl see it and add it to their servers
if you have a time where no one can add it, there is no one seeing it after that

[elder jewel]

today.

[elder jewel]

it really does though

[dry imp]

lmao dsc be like

[solemn latch]

otherwise, get verified kick all the servers your bot is in and restart lol

[dry imp]

@elder jewel you get 100 server in one day?

if so then it will obvsly get flagged

[elder jewel]

I got a lot of steam going for my bot
and now its artificially stopped

[elder jewel]

no

[sudden geyser]

isn't it not allowed to try republishing your bot on top.gg

[elder jewel]

I applied today

[dry imp]

how many server that you got this week

[elder jewel]

ugh 100

well, in last 11 days

100

[solemn latch]

you cannot reapply just to get more servers.

[dry imp]

well thats kinda hard

might get flagged

[elder jewel]

which I think is stupid, as all the servers it is in are real

[sudden geyser]

then how does getting verified, kicking all servers, and restarting work

unless you mean something else

[elder jewel]

thats a silly idea

[solemn latch]

the argument you all seem to suggest is that starting from zero is easier than starting with 100

[elder jewel]

yes, wipe away all progress since thatll stop you loosing your progress for them taking super long to accept/deny

[solemn latch]

(after verification)

[elder jewel]

that is not my argument

its that, you gain steam
and are forced to stop

[solemn latch]

I dont think bots, on a small scale have any steam

[elder jewel]

speak for yourself

oops did I do a bad

[solemn latch]

probably best not to leak private information

[elder jewel]

yeah, forgot user IDs are in that

[dry imp]

yeah and the photo is stuck in my browser

[solemn latch]

client mods banned /j

[elder jewel]

well, you get the point

[dry imp]

[elder jewel]

rn I keep having ppl join my discord, try to invite, and then leave

[dry imp]

you could try promoting it later

[solemn latch]

^^

thats generally what discord recommends(or implies) you should do

[sudden geyser]

I think I'm on a different page than you. The process right now goes:

Develop bot > publish on top.gg > get popular > hit 100 server limit > wait 3+ weeks for discord to verify > initial popularity has died, now you're stuck

compare this with the traditional path:

Develop bot > publish on top.gg > get popular > after some time, popularity wears down and you have the boost top.gg gave you

As such, Discord is practically kneecapping bots at 100 servers, killing their chance of becoming popular. Steam's process would be more like the second one. I don't understand why you two are fine with such an abysmal system.

[dry imp]

cant you just use auctions and promote it as usual?

[elder jewel]

I havent paid a dime in advertising

I made a bot ppl like

[sudden geyser]

That requires money, and this is just initial popularity after being added.

[dry imp]

vote credits

[elder jewel]

I got into a server, and he got all his owner friends to add it

I only got verified on top.gg yesterday, after my bot was already in like 70 servers

[earnest phoenix]

Vote credits are hard to earn, they won't help you much

[sudden geyser]

Vote credits as in regular votes?

[dry imp]

100 votes = $15 credit

[earnest phoenix]

Vote credits are auctions credits gained from monthly votes

[elder jewel]

the point still stands

[sudden geyser]

Ah

Yeah that's still a half baked solution.

[elder jewel]

Discord ruins the growth bots have by making them wait a few weeks to keep growing

[earnest phoenix]

First 100 monthly votes gives you $15 worth of auction credits, after that, every 1000 votes is $1

[sudden geyser]

Because you could've gotten many more vote credits if your bot hadn't been kneecapped at 100

[earnest phoenix]

So yea, it doesn't help much

[dry imp]

true but thats an alternative to promote your bot due to discord verification system

just gotta deal with it ig

[elder jewel]

My bot is a moderation bot that is not seen often, and requires basically no action from admins to work, how would I get votes from that?

The issue still stands of growing a bot, and getting popular only for it to be toppled by a 100 server limit.

[left finch]

My bot's confirmation form didn't go

[sudden geyser]

Like, imagine if GitHub published recently created repositories for exposure but after 50 stars required a 3+ week long verification process. By the end of it, your repo's out of trending and you're stuck at 50 when you could've had 500. It's like a dunning kruger graph except instead of a gradual decline you straight up stop for 3 weeks.

[dry imp]

trust me you dont need vote only commands to get votes, if you bot is that useful ppl will vote it anyway if there is an option to

[earnest phoenix]

The problem here is attention, people seeing the bot and adding it, and interacting with and supporting it in various ways, people won't be able to vote your bot if it doesn't even get attention to be seen and acknowledged

[elder jewel]

like
today I had 3 servers announce my bot since they like it a lot

but it cant do anything as it is full

[elder jewel]

EXACTLY

my bot rarely does anything that someone other then a staff member would notice

even then, its rare when a staff member is using it

[earnest phoenix]

After the bot is out of the trending cycle, it's basically soft-locked in most cases, as the Discord server limit for the verification clause would block more and more growth of the bot, which will lead to unpopularity and demise of the bot

[dry imp]

so your bot is a moderation bot? @elder jewel

[sudden geyser]

basically this

[elder jewel]

kind of, it only handles moderation of links

[elder jewel]

yep

[sudden geyser]

I feel bad for the devs who go through this every day

[elder jewel]

and then you add on top
"your bot has grown too quickly, try to apply in 3 weeks"

after waiting however long

[dry imp]

no wonder ppl make multipurpose bot since they knew this was going to happen

[elder jewel]

then you face another issue
if your bot does too much, people will not trust it if it needs certain permissions

since its not verified

[dry imp]

handle the error then

[elder jewel]

what error?

[sudden geyser]

Like, Discord could at least revoke intents but still allow bots to grow until it's verified.

[dry imp]

bot not having perms

[elder jewel]

wdym??

[sudden geyser]

It doesn't completely stop malicious bots, but is an improvement.

[elder jewel]

Im saying, if the bot needs certain perms to work, people will not trust it

[elder jewel]

or just limit it

[sudden geyser]

Nah, straight up revoke it until verified.

[dry imp]

they could just disable the perms if they dont trust it

[sudden geyser]

that's what they want

[elder jewel]

bruh

lets add dyno, and not let it do anything

why add it?

[dry imp]

lmapo

[elder jewel]

a bot without the perms its need is useless

[sudden geyser]

daff the issue is users won't trust unverified bots compared to verified bots

[dry imp]

bruh

i know

[elder jewel]

this

[dry imp]

but people could disable specific perms upon adding the bot

[sudden geyser]

A user would rather not invite it.

[elder jewel]

^

[dry imp]

thats not the bot's problem then

[elder jewel]

Yes

[sudden geyser]

Yes it is

[elder jewel]

it literally is

[sudden geyser]

That's one less server.

[dry imp]

....

then what can you do abt it?

[elder jewel]

No servers add it since it is not verified
but you cant get verified unless servers add it

[earnest phoenix]

The trust in bots have significantly diverged since the verification process was introduced, which adds even more problems to the table of problems, piling up the cesspool of problems which can lead to the demise of the bot

[elder jewel]

My bot literally needs
• manage messages
• send messages
• embed messages
and people still have lots of trouble trusting it

[earnest phoenix]

Most Discord users aren't understanding of these problems and the ways they handle things, which is the cause of it

[elder jewel]

^

[dry imp]

then the problem is in the users

[elder jewel]

no

its the bots

it is literally the bot developers issue if no one will use it

[dry imp]

then it is your problem not discord?

[elder jewel]

there is probably hundreds of people with good intentions, and a great bot who will never make it since they cant grow

[dry imp]

well this issue was known long ago and there havent been any improvements, so you just gotta suck it up and deal with it ig

[sudden geyser]

That's such a terrible response

[dry imp]

literally nothing can be done

[sudden geyser]

"Oh, this platform is still screwing you and hundreds of other small bots over? Just suck it up"

This is what's wrong with the process

[elder jewel]

sounds like something a politician would say on any complicated issue

[sudden geyser]

pull yourself up by those bootstraps

[dry imp]

ppl complaint for a long time and discord doesnt improve it, do you think they will improve it now?

thats what im saying

[elder jewel]

to be fair, discord tries to improve

they just make the wrong move like youtube

[dry imp]

thats true

[earnest phoenix]

The problems now differ, in the old times where these problems (or at least most of it) didn't exist, these bots were easily able to obtain the popularity they were seeking for, after the verification process was introduced, Discord users are less likely to use unverified bots, and trust them in any way, which just kills the goal of the bot, and it's ways to overcome these problems and adapt to the current "meta" of how these things work, Discord server limit, intents, permission issues, concerned users, and much much more

[elder jewel]

yes

[earnest phoenix]

And the queue times being in the way, and all of that, and the ways to promote the bot just significantly reduces by a shit ton

[elder jewel]

its not only the queue time, its them saying after youve waited "No, youve grown to quickly, try again later"

like, with this logic you can stop a bot from getting verified by announcing it in a large server

how is the developer supposed to regulate how fast it grows

[earnest phoenix]

The way they handle "suspicious growth" is outright incorrect, they've even automated it, to check how fast it is being added to servers, which the suspicious growth is just the killing hammer for the bot and it's popularity

[elder jewel]

THIS ^

today I gained like 20 servers in a hour or two, nothing I did caused it

now im probably going to get screwed

:/

[slender thistle]

The current verification system is the main reason I have gone away from maintaining public bots in the first place

[sudden geyser]

same

[elder jewel]

ive been waiting a day, and Im already highly annoyed at it

[earnest phoenix]

what do i do here

i tried to do the webhook thing

of top.gg

[orchid nebula]

How can someone be sooo true

[azure walrus]

how do i make a vote reminder like this?
i use djs fyi btw

[near stratus]

you can use redis (easy approach)
you can use any db you like and keep checking every few minutes if the time ran out

Start by making a vote api (see docs https://docs.top.gg/libraries/javascript/#webhooks)

Save the time along with user id

Check every few minutes if the time for vote ran out

If time ran out then dm the user and delete the entry from db

[azure walrus]

vote api docs?

also thanks

[gilded plank]

This channel is ONLY for the Top.gg API!
This channel is only for: suggestions/help/bugs to do with official API libraries and API docs found at: https://docs.top.gg
Any Off-Topic conversation may get deleted and muted.

If you need help with development about your bot or development in general, feel free to use #development.

[near stratus]

I've put the link now

[azure walrus]

sorry

[lunar palm]

no

It has the link

Should've just gotten the link instead of posting that

https://docs.top.gg/

[signal estuary]

How can I edit an existing Field?

embed.setFields()

how does the setFields property work?
I wanted to change an existing field:

embed = embed.setFields([`Size`, 'value'])

but it gives me an MessageEmbed-fields-must-be-non-empty-strings error

[pale vessel]

I don't think setFields() is valid?

[earnest phoenix]

https://discord.js.org/#/docs/main/stable/class/MessageEmbed?scrollTo=addFields

[earnest phoenix]

ey can u help?

this

[boreal iron]

It is but I’m basically doing the things myself, it always has been like this, so it’s just another kind of experience to gather

I’m actually really optimistic how it already looks and feels

It’s the first time ever I’m working with a css framework and I pretty much like it

At least now I got some predefined structures and don’t need to design anything myself, except the fact I’m still typing each line code myself

[signal estuary]

How can I create a channel in a category?
This doesnt work for me - setParent() is not a function

let channel = inter.guild.channels.create('new-general', { type: 'text' })
channel.setParent(category.id)

[earnest phoenix]

"nuke the entire earth so we won't have any more bad guys"

• basically discord

[calm stone]

hi

how can i make vote log ?

sends a message when someone vote to my bot

[calm stone]

let channel = inter.guild.channels.create('new-general', { type: 'text' , parent: 'ID'})

[quartz kindle]

await inter.guild...

[timber fractal]

I have this code, so if the array already includes a value, it will remove that from the array and update a mongoDB schema Code: ```js
if(response.disabledCmds.includes(value)) {
console.log('includes')
await guildSchema.findOneAndUpdate(
{
guildId: guild.id
},
{
blacklistRole: response.disabledCmds.remove(value)
}
);

        console.log(response.disabledCmds.remove(value));

        return true;
    }``` on the console, it shows ```

includes
[]``` but after it updated the schema, the exact same array is still there. Any solutions?

[feral aspen]

Tim, I have a question on await continuing to last time.

const user = message.mentions.members.first() || await bot.users.fetch(args[0]).catch(() => {});
console.log(user.user.username);
````TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'username')`

This is returning an error when I input an ID like `!bugreview 342963104306429954`.

[quartz kindle]

message.mentions.members.first is a Member

members have member.user

bot.users.fetch is a User

there is no user.user

[feral aspen]

Oh, damn.

[quartz kindle]

what is response.disabledCmds? what type of object is it?

[timber fractal]

array

[quartz kindle]

arrays dont have .remove()

[timber fractal]

Array.prototype.remove = function() {
            var what, a = arguments, L = a.length, ax;

            while (L && this.length) {
                what = a[--L];

                while ((ax = this.indexOf(what)) !== -1) {
                    this.splice(ax, 1);
                }
            }
            return this;
        }```

it would give me an error if remove was undefined right?

• when i console.log the array with removing the value it gives an empty array, so without the removed value cause i removed that element

[solemn latch]

That's inorganic not suspicious.

Inorganic imo is handled the right way

[timber fractal]

anyone?

[raw nest]

If I have 1 route f.e. /api/items and I want to be able to create, get, update etc. on it and everything just depends on the request method. But let's say if I want to only get them. I heard that you shouldn't put important body (which changes the output) into the request when making a get request. How do I do it then? Make an extra param?

I could also make:
api/get/items
api/post/items
and so on

[earnest phoenix]

@rustic nova

[rustic nova]

russian this time lmao

[quartz kindle]

wdym important body?

[raw nest]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/978061/http-get-with-request-body

[quartz kindle]

like if you want to put the item you want to request in the body?

theres nothing preventing you from doing that

its just not semantically correct

but you're free to do it

[raw nest]

oh okay

[quartz kindle]

if you want to be semantically correct, a GET request should have all its data in the url, either in the path or in query params

[raw nest]

because then my thing would be much simpler xD just change request method and the params etc.

[quartz kindle]

to send a body, a POST request should be used, even if its only used to retrieve data

but theres nothing stopping you from sending GET requests with a body

[raw nest]

okay alright thank you Tim^^

[quartz kindle]

the only possible issue you might run into is that if someone uses a very strict http library that does not allow sending body with GET requests, they will have issues using your api unless they change their library or do the request manually

[raw nest]

well it's not a public api but yes that's true I already had such a problem once and that's why I even asked

[hollow oak]

for my discord bot i was given these intructions to set up the api could you explain it a bit more fr me

    "{}To find your API key:\n"
    "**1.** Login on Top.gg <https://top.gg/login>\n"
    "**2.** Go on your profile <https://top.gg/me>\n"
    "**3.** Click on `Edit` on one of your bot.\n"
    "**4.** Scroll to the bottom of the edit page, in `API Options` section, "
    "then click on `Show token` and copy the token.\n"
    "**5.** Use in DM `[p]set api dbl api_key your_api_key_here`\n"
    "**6.** There you go! You can now use DblTools cog."
)```

it is a bit outdated

[quartz kindle]

edit page > webhooks > token for this bot

[hollow oak]

how to remove the webhook url box and authy box

i have contents in box when i try to remove it dosent let me

[feral aspen]

0|attitude  | Error [SHARDING_READY_TIMEOUT]: Shard 0's Client took too long to become ready.
0|attitude  |     at Timeout.onTimeout (/root/bot/node_modules/discord.js/src/sharding/Shard.js:166:16)
0|attitude  |     at listOnTimeout (node:internal/timers:559:17)
0|attitude  |     at processTimers (node:internal/timers:502:7) {
0|attitude  |   [Symbol(code)]: 'SHARDING_READY_TIMEOUT'
0|attitude  | }

This error keeps coming up, along with this one. https://srcb.in/LvMS3vbeW5

Am I doing something wrong, it keeps crashing my public bot.

[solemn latch]

personally I would increase the timeout

[feral aspen]

How, so?

I read an online github issue, didn't understand what they meant by timeout?

require('dotenv').config();
const { ShardingManager } = require('discord.js');
const manager = new ShardingManager('./src/index.js', { token: process.env.TOKEN, totalShards: 'auto' });

manager.on('shardCreate', shard => {
    console.log(`[SHARDS]: Launched shard ${shard.id}`)
});

manager.spawn();

[solemn latch]

the timeout means if it takes too long to be ready it will fail.

increasing the timeout increases the time before it fails

[feral aspen]

What's the default timeout?

[solemn latch]

15 seconds iirc

[feral aspen]

How can I know how long it will take mine?

My bot is in 1,000 servers, supposedly.

What should I be putting each parameter?
https://discord.js.org/#/docs/discord.js/stable/typedef/MultipleShardSpawnOptions

[solemn latch]

I would increase delay to 10000 and timeout to 60000
seems the default is 30 seconds, which is strange to have it take so long for a bot with 1000 servers.

[feral aspen]

Like this, correct?

manager.spawn({ delay: 10000, timeout: 30000 });

[solemn latch]

yep!

[feral aspen]

I don't understand, yet, the difference between them. I have read the documentation but what, does it take time to spawn each shard?

[hollow oak]

pushing this to the top as it is slowly getting left behind

[solemn latch]

like for the topgg webhook?

[hollow oak]

on the webhook section

there are 3 boxes one is a url box the other an authy and the other a token

how do i remove the contents in the authy and url box

[feral aspen]

Error [SHARDING_READY_TIMEOUT]: Shard 0's Client took too long to become ready.

[solemn latch]

I dont think they can be empty once you place something there.
I would set the url to something useless.
such as http://0.0.0.0/ and test

[elder jewel]

Good morning

[simple stump]

When trying to delete a channel via another method, I get this error:

throw new DiscordAPIError(data, res.status, request);
            ^

DiscordAPIError: Unknown Channel
    at RequestHandler.execute (/home/container/node_modules/discord.js/src/rest/RequestHandler.js:298:13)
    at runMicrotasks (<anonymous>)
    at processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:96:5)
    at async RequestHandler.push (/home/container/node_modules/discord.js/src/rest/RequestHandler.js:50:14)
    at async TextChannel.delete (/home/container/node_modules/discord.js/src/structures/GuildChannel.js:547:5) {
  method: 'delete',
  path: '/channels/939911034708299936',
  code: 10003,
  httpStatus: 404,
  requestData: { json: undefined, files: [] }
}

To prevent this I have this statement:

          if (interaction.channel != undefined) {
            interaction.channel.delete();
          }

However the error still persists. Would I have to add a .catch statement to prevent this or is the code I have sufficient?

[lament rock]

might want to just catch because the channel could be deleted before your cache gets updated or something on Discord's end happen because lol Discord isn't so stable

also, what you want to check for is Channel.deleted

also don't need to specify != undefined. undefined, null, "" all lead to falsy values

Earlier versions of node do not support optional chaining

Try doing that in the middle of production without a fallback server

delete is undefined

ah nvm.

missed the object brackets

I just woke up

Other people probably find that haha funny and don't care, but I care

Would appreciate not insulting my skills

[raw nest]

Some one quite familiar with the npm package nanoid? Whenever I'm using it I'm feeling quite scary because it says the strings are unique but my question is how they did it? You can do something with timestamp + crypto and then it's unique for sure but still... Is it better to check for uniqueness?

[sudden geyser]

The ID is just randomly generated.

[raw nest]

but also unique

[sudden geyser]

It is using crypto internally to generate "pseudorandom data"

[lament rock]

You can increment specific portions of the string to make sure everything is unique always

[raw nest]

with my custom Alphabet this got calculated xD This really let's me feel better everytime but I'm curious lol

[sudden geyser]

I'd argue the point of nanoid is not to make collisions next to impossible, but to make generating IDs more convenient than the alternative (i.e. uuid). The collision rate is negligible, and even if there was one, there's a good chance the format you're storing it in will block collisions (e.g. database).

That range is huge though. I'd suggest something smaller, like 4-8 characters.

[round cove]

Guids can't even collide if you use the default time based guid.

[signal estuary]

Is it smart to write a file, upload it and delete it then?

                                let data = ''
                                messageCollection.forEach(msg => {
                                    data += msg.author.tag + ': ' + msg.content + '\n'
                                })

                                await fs.writeFile("transcript.txt", data, (err) => {
                                    if (err) { console.log(err) } else {
                                        console.log('file written successfully')
                                        let file = new Discord.MessageAttachment('./transcript.txt')
                                        if (file) inter.channel.send({
                                            files: [file]
                                        }).then(() => {
                                            fs.unlink('./transcript.txt', (err) => {
                                                if (err) { console.log(err) } else {
                                                    console.log('file unlinked successfully')
                                                }
                                            })
                                        })
                                    }
                                })

Or is there a better solution?

[sudden geyser]

Nah

I'm pretty sure you can store it in memory as a buffer.

Like Buffer.from(data, "utf8") and add it as a value in files: [...]

[elder jewel]

when you have to watch a 1 and a half minute ad to vote

[sudden geyser]

They're still doing that? I thought they canceled that.

[elder jewel]

I guess not

[quaint rampart]

anyone know ab express?

i’m trying to redirect /e:id to /cdn/embed:id
how can i achieve this? i tried res.redirect(“/cdn/embed/${req.params.id}”) but it didn’t work

[earnest phoenix]

wdym didnt work

[quaint rampart]

nvm i got it to work i didnt do /:id instead of :id which was a dumb mistake

[signal estuary]

I wanna upload a txt file but this here uploads a png file. How can I change the file type?

data = 'just a string'
let file = new Discord.MessageAttachment(Buffer.from(data))
if (file) inter.channel.send({
  files: [file]
})

[sudden geyser]

you can give it a file name

[signal estuary]

how?

[sudden geyser]

by following this structure https://discord.js.org/#/docs/discord.js/stable/typedef/FileOptions

so instead of files: [...] you go files: [{...}]

[slender wagon]

what the fuck is this data thingy

and does it change

[sudden geyser]

it's just metadata an app provides for itself

has no effect on the page. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Global_attributes/data-*

[slender wagon]

hmm

does it prevent webscrapping

[sudden geyser]

not really

[slender wagon]

okay good

[sudden geyser]

if a scraper can figure out what it means they can find it useful

[nocturne sail]

Has anyone an Solution? No error comes in the Console.
The Bot only want to edit the Message.
I cannot send an Embed without the "MANAGE_MESSAGES" Permission. Idk why

Without "MANAGE_MESSAGES" Permission
https://uploadi.ng/52csd5Wq

With "MANAGE_MESSAGES" Permission
https://cdn.upload.systems/uploads/owr2L5b4.png

(JDA)

[sudden geyser]

You should only need Send Embeds to send an embed.

[pale vessel]

did they change the perm name?

it was embed links

[solemn latch]

embed links are the embeds when you post a link

[pale vessel]

also applies for embeds sent by bots

[nocturne sail]

jep. This Permission has my Bot.

[spark flint]

i love when my permission has my bot

[nocturne sail]

?

[sudden geyser]

probably still named that

meant to say that

[nocturne sail]

https://uploadi.ng/QDFugyPR

My Bot has the Perm

but when i removing him the MANAGE_MESSAGES its not working.
Other Embed working. But in this one Command not.

[cold shell]

whenever i send a command fthrough my bot it sends the response twice

[solemn latch]

sounds like you may be running the bot twice

[cold shell]

this is the code (its python)
`` import discord
import os
from keep_alive import keep_alive

client = discord.Client()

@client.event
async def on_ready():
print('We have logged in as {0.user}'.format(client))

@client.event
async def on_message(message):
if message.author == client.user:
return

if message.content.startswith('.hello'):
await message.channel.send('Hello!')

if message.content.startswith('man i really want to listen to roblox horror music'):
await message.channel.send('https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpeMpyG-ryE'')

keep_alive()
client.run(os.getenv('token'))
my_secret = os.environ['token']``

[earnest phoenix]

will startswith even work for that second one

[cold shell]

yeah its worked for the past few days

[earnest phoenix]

mmm

[proven lantern]

epic is probably right. there is probably a ghost process running

[earnest phoenix]

You might have a double instance of the bot running other then that I see no reason why it'd respond twice

[solemn latch]

typically thats what happens

[cold shell]

yeah

i'll restart the bot see if that fcixed it

fixes*

[earnest phoenix]

Doesn't matter if you restart it, there will still be that ghost process

[proven lantern]

check the process manager. are you using windows or linux?

[woeful pike]

um sir... this is not what deprecation means

typical golang developer

[solemn latch]

is retaining Prometheus data for a year actually viable? 👀

[earnest phoenix]

idk seems legit to me

[woeful pike]

looks like a breaking change to me

[cinder patio]

why is go syntax so quirky

[earnest phoenix]

cause ur quirky

[sudden geyser]

syntax looks fine imo

[woeful pike]

syntax is whatever

as long as you're not writing APL it doesn't really matter

[sudden geyser]

apl looks cool though

[cinder patio]

The square brackets before the type... return type right after arguments (no delimiter like most languages with return type after args), tuple not wrapped in parentheses. Not saying it's bad but

it makes you wonder

[woeful pike]

definitely... unique

[sudden geyser]

please tell me that's not valid apl

[woeful pike]

very valid

[sudden geyser]

why are all examples without syntax highlighting

okay here

[earnest phoenix]

wtf is that

[sudden geyser]

apl

[earnest phoenix]

it looks bad

[sudden geyser]

it's very foreign

I'd like to learn it some time in the future

[earnest phoenix]

I wouldn't

[woeful pike]

for people who want to roleplay being a scribe in 2000 BC in ancient egypt

[earnest phoenix]

Looks like i'd go through a mental meltdown trying to make sense of it

[earnest phoenix]

Do you want to roleplay being a scribe in 2000 BC ancient egypt?

[woeful pike]

this is another insane one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_(programming_language)

The function below can be used to list all of the prime numbers between 1 and R with:

2_&{&/x!/:2_!x}'!R

I know someone who uses both of these languages to solve coding challenges, actually cracked

[cinder patio]

ah yes very concise

[earnest phoenix]

I dont even want to begin to try and understand that

:p

[woeful pike]

they're not even joke/esoteric languages like brainfuck

just a very different paradigm

[sudden geyser]

that you'll actually find in production systems

[woeful pike]

yes

array based languages? is the name I think

[sudden geyser]

array-oriented

[woeful pike]

is that the same as stack oriented

[sudden geyser]

or just array

eh all the names mean the same

[woeful pike]

forth is like the most sane of these languages

every other one I've seen is some alien hieroglyph

like J lmfao

[cinder patio]

2!!7!4

[woeful pike]

at least with J I can kind of see the flow

[cinder patio]

Why did these people thought that this would be a good idea? I'm curious what the thought process was? Functional languages are nice, but should be readable. I don't get it. Unless there are some major space restrictions where the source code must be as small as possible

But that lang was made in '93

[woeful pike]

this isn't functional

https://learnxinyminutes.com/docs/forth/ this kind of explains the concept

in the most readable way

all the other languages are some kind of extreme end of this idea

[cinder patio]

Might as well just write python bytecode by hand

[woeful pike]

well yeah forth is meant to be an assembly

low level but more readable imo

tho I've never written assembly so I don't know

[surreal needle]

Hey uh im new to sequelize and im struggling a lot

i dont know what im doing wrong but nothing is working anymore

Im using discord.js, sequelize and mariadb

If anyone knows how to help, please lmk

[earnest phoenix]

We cannot help you if you don't tell us what is wrong and show the error & code

[surreal needle]

ive only been working with discord.js and javascript in general for about a week

functions is in the main folder and warn is in the command folder

hence the ../ on the import

im having trouble with my "guildTableCreate" function

it doesnt seem to be creating anything. When i create and then try to fetch it, it just outputs "null"

my userTableCreate function works fine so this is giving me a headache

https://github.com/Radiicall/rajikaru-bot

Here's my entire bot

console output when doing warn command

[split hazel]

lets do some debugging

what line of code is in warn.js at line 44?

[surreal needle]

if (guildtable.get('maxinfractions') <= 1) {

[surreal needle]

the null in bold here is where i try to print guildtable

[split hazel]

think i may know the problem

any operations performed on the database such as guildtable.get take time to complete

so you have to add await before them

otherwise the value will not be ready yet and your program continues to execute

[surreal needle]

console.log(guildtable = await guildTables.findOne({ where: { name: guildTableName } })); what about this outputting null?

[split hazel]

sequelize returns null if it cant find what you requested

so the query returns nothing

meaning the entry does not exist

[surreal needle]

that line is after the create function

[split hazel]

thats because you arent awaiting it

that could be the first problem

[surreal needle]

hmm okay

wait ill try to await in the if statement

[split hazel]

so it attempts to get the entry before it has even been created

referring to this by the way guildTableCreate({ name: guildTableName });

you might want to also practise using promises and when to use await or not as it is a big part of javascript

[surreal needle]

still same error on the if statement

[split hazel]

did you add await to this?

[surreal needle]

no.. ill try that too

Still getting null in the if statement

added await to guildtable.get() and createGuildTable()

[split hazel]

show the updated code just so i can keep up to date

[surreal needle]

highlighted

also if you have a better way of doing any of this, i would appreciate some input haha

[split hazel]

are you able to check the database itself?

to see if the entries were added

[modern sphinx]

hi im new in top.gg

i added my bot

[surreal needle]

i was wondering how to do that

i know how to check tables and describe them

but checking contents, idk

The database and the tables are there

i know that much

[modern sphinx]

my bot not starts if checked this is the error

[split hazel]

execute SELECT * FROM guildTables LIMIT 10;

[surreal needle]

i checked, executed the command and checked again

nothing both times

[split hazel]

that means theres nothing in the database

strange

[surreal needle]

yeah im not having this issue with my other table

which is what's so frustrating

it works fine here

[split hazel]

can you log guildTableName just to make sure

[surreal needle]

console.log it?

[split hazel]

oh wait

you're messing up your query

[surreal needle]

hm?

[split hazel]

the create function expects this

you're giving it an object instead

[surreal needle]

are you talking about the name?

i do const guildTableName = String(interaction.guild.id);

[split hazel]

so instead of guildTableCreate({ name: guildTableName }) you need to do something like guildTableCreate(guildTableName, 10, role, role) filling out the other fields with what they're supposed to be

[surreal needle]

hm

well you see

I need to find it 1 sec

[split hazel]

and also some of your columns are labelled as required so you have to provide them too (not just name) otherwise make them nullable

[surreal needle]

i did that

and it didnt work

i just set them to a string that contained the word null

to test and it didnt change anything

[split hazel]

you're still doing it wrong

it should be guildTabelCreate(guildTableName, 2, 'null', 'null')

because thats what the function expects

if you want to use objects you need to query the model directly

like guildTables.create({ ... })

[surreal needle]

i didnt know there was a difference between those two, thats interesting

i thought when using {} you could define what you're actually assigning a value to

[split hazel]

you can do that but youd need to make the function like function guildTableCreate({ name, max, manrole, modrole }) { ... }

[surreal needle]

ahh

[split hazel]

that way you can directly query the data

[surreal needle]

okay

Yeah this will probably work then

i didnt know that it had to be like that

OH MY GOD

THANK YOU DUDE

IVE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT ALL DAY

It's been driving me nuts

[split hazel]

glad to see that! i'd recommend you take some javascript courses to learn some of the syntax

otherwise you're kind of just guessing

[surreal needle]

I have tried taking courses before and i can tell you that i cant get the motivation

i learn from doing and looking up issues

[split hazel]

and continue trial and error because i think thats the best way to learn

[surreal needle]

asking friends for help along the way

[split hazel]

yeah you should also try to apply the things you've learnt because you'll forget them quickly

[surreal needle]

haha i think im doing pretty well for only having used javascript for a week

I used to code my bot in python and then switched to javascript for more control over what im doing

[split hazel]

my first week of javascript i was begging some guy in dms to give me code for stuff

[surreal needle]

mm i usually find out myself, im a linux guy so im used to no one knowing what the issue actually is

[dry imp]

@surreal needle which one do you think is easier for beginner py or js?

[surreal needle]

definitely python imo

also if you're gonna go javascript then eslint is great for not making subtle mistakes that dont actually show up as mistakes

[marble juniper]

ruby though

[split hazel]

if you're used to that try developing an operating system 💀

shit just crashes and glitches with no clues or leads

[surreal needle]

my friend tried coding an os in C

[marble juniper]

code an os in B when

[surreal needle]

i think he's gone insane

[rigid lark]

me using java

[surreal needle]

i watched a video on B once

it looked pretty cool

[split hazel]

i've gone insane so can confirm

[surreal needle]

kotlin gamers

[rigid lark]

ew

[marble juniper]

the floor is java!

[dry imp]

anyone using java is a masochist

[rigid lark]

naah

if you need to run a js bot you need like a vps and node and blah blah

[marble juniper]

when log4j allows you to do remote code execution

[rigid lark]

that issue has been fixedd.

[dry imp]

hacking from minecraft moment

[surreal needle]

or just have your own server and dont cry about node (this is a joke dont be mad pls)

[rigid lark]

i know smt about that

[marble juniper]

but god knows if the billion devices already updated

[rigid lark]

not mad, i have my own vps and it's fine

[rigid lark]

hopefully

[marble juniper]

You know many pcs often get hacked because they don't frequently update them

[rigid lark]

i know but that's not java's fault

[marble juniper]

Ye

[surreal needle]

my bot got rejected because my idiot ass was debugging this while someone was reviewing it, i didnt know when it was gonna happen so i was just changing the code and then i broke everything

[dry imp]

java s fault for being bad

[marble juniper]

Many people seem to switch to functional programming anyways

[surreal needle]

Time to add modrole checks and make my commands even more bloated

[marble juniper]

Writing a bot to test ur bot is the real shit

[split hazel]

i update manjaro once a year because their frequency of updates is fucking abysmal

[dry imp]

quick tip for applying in queue: dont change anything abt the bot and just make sure the uptime is good

[split hazel]

and they're multiple gbs in size

[surreal needle]

I cant help myself, I've been so motivated recently

[marble juniper]

Or just

submit the bot untill its actually done

[dry imp]

this aswell

but its better to submit now ig

[surreal needle]

When is a bot 'done' though

i need a userbase

[dry imp]

wait time now is so much shorter

[surreal needle]

im running out of stuff to add

[marble juniper]

You probably don't wanna ship an unfinished product

[dry imp]

true

[surreal needle]

i need ideas, which is why i wanna get it up on sites like top.gg

[dry imp]

copy other bot

[surreal needle]

lmao

thanks for the input

[dry imp]

make a discord bot so that it can cook rice at 5 am and fry chicken nuggets at the same time, ill invite that bot

[surreal needle]

on it

[sudden geyser]

kuuhaku: sinks into the floor

[surreal needle]

Should the warn command have a permission check or should it just check for the mod role?

[marble juniper]

You should use permission checks where possible lol

[split hazel]

honestly dont trust discords command permission system

they've fucked it up a few times already

use it mostly for shows but keep an internal permission check

[sudden geyser]

wdym

[split hazel]

i meant if you're gonna be using discords permission system

[sudden geyser]

oh the permission in general? like using bits?

I've just been using sets of enums in my app

[surreal needle]

if (interaction.member.roles.resolveId(guildtable.get('modrole')) == member.roles.resolveId(guildtable.get('modrole')))

does this work?

I'm honestly just guessing how i could check something like this

I want to check if both users have the modrole and if they do then return;

[lyric mountain]

interaction.member.roles -> member.roles I fail to see what ur doing there

[surreal needle]

im getting a role id from a database table

i want to check if they both have that role

not if one has more roles than the other

[boreal iron]

True I had to redo permissions and reinvite my bot many times caused by permissions issues

[lyric mountain]

ok, what does member stands for?

interaction.member I imagine is the user that pressed the button

[surreal needle]

its the person that sent the command

and member is the mentioned user in the command

im using discord.js

[lyric mountain]

first of all, save guildtable.get('modrole') to a variable

no need to call it twice

second, you could just check if both users have the role

instead of getting it from each one and comparing both

idk what resolveId does tho

[surreal needle]

the role is stored as an id in the database

OH wait

i know how to turn it back

its been right in front of me

i can do RoleManager.fetch(id)

and then check that

[exotic shard]

node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:936

  throw err;


  ^

Error: Cannot find module '../../functions'


Require stack:


- /home/node/commands/uptime.js



- /home/node/index.js


- /etc/917358002070224936m938887546786676836.js


    at Function.Module._resolveFilename (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:933:15)


    at Function.Module._load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:778:27)


    at Module.require (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1005:19)


    at Module.newFunc (/etc/node_modules/appmetrics/lib/aspect.js:101:26)


    at Module.newFunc [as require] (/etc/node_modules/ibmapm-embed/appmetrics-zipkin/lib/aspect.js:101:26)


    at require (node:internal/modules/cjs/helpers:102:18)


    at Object.\u003canonymous\u003e (/home/node/commands/uptime.js:4:22)


    at Module._compile (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1101:14)


    at Object.Module._extensions..js (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1153:10)


    at Module.load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:981:32) {


  code: 'MODULE_NOT_FOUND',


  requireStack: [


    '/home/node/commands/uptime.js',


    '/home/node/index.js',


    '/etc/917358002070224936m938887546786676836.js'


  ]

}```

Voici le code

const Discord = require("discord.js");
const config = require('../config.json');
const { MessageEmbed } = require('discord.js');
const { parseDur } = require('../../functions');

exports.run = async(bot,message,args) => {

const duration = parseDur(client.uptime);
		message.channel.send('⌛ Loading...').then((msg) => {
			const embed = new MessageEmbed()
				.setTitle('📥 Online for')
				.setColor('BLUE')
				.setDescription(
					`**${duration}**`,
				);
			msg.edit(embed);
		});
	}```

[exotic shard]

Bonjour j'ai une problème

@rose warren

[boreal iron]

No need to ping random guys

It obviously says it can’t find your module functions

What type of module is it?

Do you maybe miss the file type?

Is the path valid?

[quartz kindle]

you dont need to fetch roles

[surreal needle]

Im storing the role in a database using the id

so im fetching the role object using interaction.guild.roles.fetch()

[quartz kindle]

unnecessary

[surreal needle]

eh?

[boreal iron]

I mean it doesn’t matter if it’s cached, it will first check the cache before fetching anyways if you don’t enforce it

[surreal needle]

Why is that unnecessary?

[quartz kindle]

if you have a member object, you have its roles

all member objects have a roles array

array of role ids

in discord.js its stored under member._roles

[boreal iron]

Oh you’re speaking about members lmao

Nvm then

pleb out

[surreal needle]

wait so member._roles returns id's?

[quartz kindle]

array of role ids

[surreal needle]

yeah

[quartz kindle]

that array will always exist since it comes directly from the api

so it doesnt matter if you cache roles or not

you can have all roles disabled and uncached, and members will still have that array

[surreal needle]

so i could do something like this

[quartz kindle]

not has

includes

[surreal needle]

oh nice thanks

[feral aspen]

Hey @quartz kindle ! I'd like to ask a question about interactions. You see, I know for a fact that when you .reply(), you will have to do it via 3 seconds or else it would error and exit out the process. Although, sometimes. I .deferReply() and .followUp() but an error always comes about Error [INTERACTION_NOT_REPLIED]: The reply to this interaction has not been sent or deferred..

Always, when the error comes, it restarts/exits the process making my public bot restart, I mean, this used to never happen before and keeps continuing, even when the error occures, but when I started working on sharding, that type of habit started appearing. To prevent it from erroring and restarting.. do you think I should do something like. .reply().catch(() => console.log("Failed to Reply")); and .deferReply() .followUp().catch(() => console.log("Failed to Reply"));?

It's getting annoying seeing the bot restart because of an error.

[round cove]

When you defer you have to edit the reply.

IIRC?

Because you didn't really "reply" to it yet.

[feral aspen]

I don't think that's how it works.

[round cove]

Thankfully it works for me then (:

[earnest phoenix]

You can't send a follow up when you never sent an initial response

[feral aspen]

You .followUp() although sometimes it errors crashing the bot because of the Error [INTERACTION_NOT_REPLIED]: The reply to this interaction has not been sent or deferred.. error restarting the bot from PM2.

[feral aspen]

Works for me?

[round cove]

Clearly not lmao

[feral aspen]

Always been?

[earnest phoenix]

You're literally encountering an error about it

[feral aspen]

How is it supposed to work, then?

[round cove]

I just said.

You reply first.

Then you can edit the reply.

Or follow up.

[earnest phoenix]

When you defer the reply to an interaction, you must send a reply before sending a follow up, as Dylan said

[feral aspen]

I'm sorry? I've never seen .deferReply() and then .reply()?

[round cove]

Where do you see any deferReply examples?

[earnest phoenix]

[round cove]

deferReply is LITERALLY to ensure the interaction doesn't expire in 3 seconds and gives you a 15minute window to reply.

[earnest phoenix]

There's a reason it's called "deferReply"

[feral aspen]

When do people use .followUp then?

[boreal iron]

When you defer you have to edit the reply.

That’s exactly how it works.
Think of the deferring like an actual message you send.
It’s in fact not a message but the UI will show "Bot is thinking…"
See this as your “loading message” you sent until you edit the reply (which is you thinking-message)

[round cove]

Right.

[earnest phoenix]

You can't send multiple replies to an interaction, after the initial response is sent, you must send a follow up

Basically, following up the chain of replies to the initial response

[feral aspen]

await interaction.deferReply();
interaction.reply({ content: "Hello" });

After then, what? Where do I put .followUp()?

[round cove]

😔

[boreal iron]

That’s wrong in the first place

[earnest phoenix]

After those calls, you can call <CommandInteraction>.followUp() to send a follow up

[boreal iron]

You can’t reply as you already replied with the deferring

You need to use editReply()

[earnest phoenix]

That's not how it works FakE

[boreal iron]

For his case it is

[earnest phoenix]

You must send a reply, not edit it, you can't edit something that does not exist

[boreal iron]

I’m not speaking about the followUp

[earnest phoenix]

I know what you're exactly talking about, after you defer the reply to an interaction, you must send a reply, not edit the reply, because there's no reply in the first place

[feral aspen]

Anyways, at all cases, I'm .deferReply()ing all my interactions.

if (interaction.isCommand()) await interaction.deferReply({ ephemeral: false }).catch(() => {});

[earnest phoenix]

// Invalid.
await interaction.deferReply();
await interaction.editReply(...);

// Invalid.
await interaction.deferReply();
await interaction.followUp(...);

// Valid.
await inteeraction.deferReply();
await interaction.reply(...);
await interaction.editReply(...);

// Valid.
await interaction.deferReply();
await interaction.reply(...);
await interaction.followUp(...);

[boreal iron]

First isn’t invalid

[feral aspen]

Dude, I've just did the second Valid one, that's not how it works, and the first Invalid is valid?

[boreal iron]

Test it yourself, first case is valid

[feral aspen]

Fourth case? The fourth one doesn't work for me?

Error [INTERACTION_ALREADY_REPLIED]: The reply to this interaction has already been sent or deferred.

[boreal iron]

Auto correct

[feral aspen]

I usually use the second case.

.. and it works pretty pretty fine for me?

Although, sometimes the interaction fails causing an error 10% of the times.

[boreal iron]

Yeah Voltrex is wrong here

[feral aspen]

// Valid
await interaction.deferReply();
await interaction.editReply(...);

// Valid
await interaction.deferReply();
await interaction.followUp(...);

// Invalid
await inteeraction.deferReply();
await interaction.reply(...);
await interaction.editReply(...);

// Invalid
await interaction.deferReply();
await interaction.reply(...);
await interaction.followUp(...);

I believe this is how it should be?

There is absolutely no way you can use .reply() after a .deferReply()?

[feral aspen]

It errors for me. ^ Error [INTERACTION_ALREADY_REPLIED]: The reply to this interaction has already been sent or deferred.

[boreal iron]

As I said deferReply() then reply() doesn’t work as deferring is already the reply, you need to edit your reply (deferred message)

That’s how it works

[feral aspen]

Exactly.

.. or you can defer reply and then follow up?

[boreal iron]

Not sure about that one tbh

[feral aspen]

Works according to tutorials.

Okay, back to my point whether I use your way or my way.

[boreal iron]

But you should be able to as in no case a folloeUp message would make sense

[feral aspen]

I mean second case works pretty fine for me.

I've been using it since September.

[boreal iron]

I’m using the first case

[feral aspen]

Anyways, your case or my case. Do you sometimes get errors when the interaction fails?

[boreal iron]

The opposite between a followUp message and the bot responding to your interaction should be understandable

(Using editReply())

[boreal iron]

When it fails?

[feral aspen]

Yes, most of the times, when you use the commands of the second case, it sometimes fails but the action has been done.

await interaction.deferReply();
killBob()
await interaction.followUp(...);

It doesn't follow up but killBob() has been executed.

[boreal iron]

I mean there’s actually no response to followUp for the bot

[feral aspen]

It has been working pretty fine for me since 5 months?

[boreal iron]

The only message is the “Bot is thinking…”

[feral aspen]

So? That's considered a message?

[boreal iron]

This is only visible in the UI and will be gone once you send the followUp

[feral aspen]

That's what I wanted?

[boreal iron]

That means without sending an actual reply or editReply this will always error

[feral aspen]

.. because of the .followUp()?

[boreal iron]

Yes

[feral aspen]

Okay, makes sense. How about if I added .catch(() => {})?

[boreal iron]

You should always use the first case when deferring

[feral aspen]

If it fails, it just silently fails.

[boreal iron]

The interaction will still fail

Not in your code but in the UI of the client

[feral aspen]

But it doesn't error and crash the bot, correct? Although, yet fails?

[boreal iron]

I wouldn’t do it

[feral aspen]

I wouldn't as well.. but is this true?

[boreal iron]

It’s not meant to be used like that and might be fixed in the future

[feral aspen]

If it fails, it silently fails and not error and crash the bot but it would say This interaction failed? (if I use .catch(() => {});?)

[boreal iron]

Don’t know for sure without testing
Once you’re suppressing errors in your code you know something is wrong
The error discord shows in his client has nothing to do with you suppressing API errors

[feral aspen]

Ah, no worries. 👍

[boreal iron]

Think of it as if Discord does not get the right response to the interaction it will say Interaction failed in the client or as API error

Suppressing is a bad idea here

[feral aspen]

Yeah, true.

.. so do I just use the first case?

[earnest phoenix]

After doing some tests, the first 2 ways seem to be working now, they didn't use to work before
This is how things are handled now:

// Invalid.
await interaction.deferReply();
await interaction.reply(...);

// Valid.
await interaction.deferReply();
await interaction.editReply(...);

// Valid.
await interaction.deferReply();
await interaction.followUp(...);

I suppose what you're encountering here is something that is silently unhandled, I've encountered this issue before but the cause was of some interaction not being unhandled correctly

It if fails randomly, I can't think of anything else causing it other than Discord API issues

[feral aspen]

Yup, exactly. This is the issue.

[boreal iron]

I’m using that way since I can think of tbh, not sure where’s your issue here.
We might have used different djs versions

[earnest phoenix]

Probably

[boreal iron]

But as I said replying after replying with a defer causes an API error

[feral aspen]

Anyways, what's the final difference between .editReply() and .followUp()?

[boreal iron]

I mentioned above

[feral aspen]

Kind-of lost it.

[boreal iron]

See this:

[boreal iron]

That’s a reply to your message

A followUp is a reply to the bots first reply (response )

He actually replies to itself not to you

[feral aspen]

No, not really?

[boreal iron]

Yes

[feral aspen]

Nope.

[boreal iron]

Wait I will show

Gimme a second

[feral aspen]

This is via the third case.

[earnest phoenix]

The editReply() method edits the initial response, when deferred, the initial response is considered as the "thinking" state, the followUp() method however, replies to the bot's initial response (if deferred, it edits the "thinking" state)

[boreal iron]

Ah

[feral aspen]

Well.. what is better preventing future errors?

[boreal iron]

I feel like that has changed

[earnest phoenix]

It wasn't, maybe you didn't realize the outputs as that, we confuse things with each other as how interactions work can be confusing

[earnest phoenix]

It doesn't matter if the reply to the interaction was deferred, both edit the "thinking" state

[feral aspen]

Sometimes. Both methods can error due to you mentioning about this, is .catch(() => {}); a fix for this?

[feral aspen]

Sweet, last question is above.

[earnest phoenix]

It can definitely be a fix, random errors like that are mostly caused by the Discord API rather than your code

[boreal iron]

Yeah that’s probably the case

[feral aspen]

Yup. ^

I appreciate it a lot.

[boreal iron]

Send an eval real quick with a followUp which edited the deferReply thinking message before deferred the eval output was send

So yeah that’s how it is

[feral aspen]

Not sure what you meant by here.

Thanks a lot everyone.

[boreal iron]

Sure np that actually helped Voltrex and me, too as we’re back up to date as well

[earnest phoenix]

Cumulative update to ourselves when trying to help

[boreal iron]

Aye a win-win situation

[boreal iron]

Since I had 5 minutes, a quick explanation in pictures (what Voltrex already explained)

Is the same as:

(only when deferred)

[earnest phoenix]

does anyone know how to recieve vote data when the bot is hosted on heroku?

        self.dblpy = dbl.DBLClient(self.bot, self.token, webhook_path="/dblwebhook", webhook_auth = f"{self.auth}", webhook_port = 6000)

i can use that on repl.it

but whats the webhook url for heroku?

[boreal iron]

When not deferring, followUp actually is a follow up message of the first reponse
As you can see the bot is responding to itself

[solemn latch]

it would be your public url

[earnest phoenix]

um whats my public url?

dashboard.heroku.com?

[boreal iron]

And the last use case...
This case also shows that followUp() is a reply the first webhook the bot has send (editReply() in this case)
It does not mention the interaction user
@feral aspen

[earnest phoenix]

https://mayybots2.herokuapp.com/

is it this?

[solemn latch]

By default, a Heroku app is available at its Heroku domain, which has the form [name of app].herokuapp.com. For example, an app named serene-example-4269 is hosted at serene-example-4269.herokuapp.com.

[boreal iron]

huh

[earnest phoenix]

oh yes

[solemn latch]

then the path added at the end

[earnest phoenix]

so the link is

https://mayybots2.herokuapp.com/dblwebhook

?

[solemn latch]

yep

[earnest phoenix]

also

when i go to that link it shows this

is this supposed to happen?

[boreal iron]

reply target failed

[solemn latch]

stinky woo

[boreal iron]

[solemn latch]

the url is for a post request, so getting it in your browser wont work

[earnest phoenix]

thank you

[earnest phoenix]

    def __init__(self, bot):
        self.bot = bot
        self.token = os.environ.get("TOPGG_KEY")
        self.auth = os.environ.get("TOPGG_AUTH")
        self.dblpy = dbl.DBLClient(self.bot, self.token, webhook_path="/dblwebhook", webhook_auth = f"{self.auth}", webhook_port = 6000)
        self.update_stats_channel = self.bot.get_channel(938674473094246433)
        self.update_stats.start()

    def __init__(self, bot):
        self.bot = bot
        self.token = os.environ.get("TOPGG_KEY")
        self.auth = os.environ.get("TOPGG_AUTH")
        self.dblpy = dbl.DBLClient(self.bot, self.token, webhook_path="/dblwebhook", webhook_auth = f"{self.auth}", webhook_port = 6000)
        self.update_stats_channel = self.bot.get_channel(938674473094246433)
        self.update_stats.start()

does not work

https://mayybots2.herokuapp.com/dblwebhook

is the link i set the webhook url too

[solemn latch]

do you have a web dyno enabled?

[earnest phoenix]

which one is web dyno

There is one dyno

[earnest phoenix]

do i need 123dyno?

[solemn latch]

nope, unless you need the scaling already(which would be unusual)

[earnest phoenix]

what am i supposed to do

[solemn latch]

https://devcenter.heroku.com/articles/dynos#dyno-configurations

I'm not a heroku user, so I can only really link to the docs.

[earnest phoenix]

alright

[earnest phoenix]

so basically i need two Procfiles?

[solemn latch]

I dont think so, I think multiple dynos can be enabled within one

[earnest phoenix]

so basically

i have two lines

one for worker

one for web

[solemn latch]

yep

[earnest phoenix]

idk how to get a web procfile

web dyno*

[lyric mountain]

Running two dynos is risky if ur bot is hosted there

It effectively halves your free time quota

[earnest phoenix]

oh

so what am i supposed to do

[lyric mountain]

Well, that's one of the drawbacks of running free

You could technically use something else for the api alone

Like glitch or replit

[earnest phoenix]

oh yes

so like

run topgg seperatel

on replit?

[lyric mountain]

Then process votes there or somehow send data to ur bot

[earnest phoenix]

i use mongodb

[lyric mountain]

Regardless of what u use, you'd need to notify ur bot that someone voted

[earnest phoenix]

so i can use replit to process votes?

[lyric mountain]

Unless u don't do vote messages

[earnest phoenix]

oh true

[earnest phoenix]

how am i suppoesd to do that

[lyric mountain]

Get creative

[solemn latch]

you can realistically forward it to a discord webhook using replit

and get the message with your bot

[earnest phoenix]

hmm

yes

il prob do that

thx

[lyric mountain]

Can also use the database as a message queue and have the bot periodically check if there are new entries there

[solemn latch]

thats probably more reliable

[lyric mountain]

Many ways to solve that

[earnest phoenix]

il go with a vote helper webhook for now

[lethal trout]

i want to make a thing like when i type a command in the terminal it will make a new project for me like i open a new folder for making a bot and i want it to automatically add the pre made handler and events..

[lyric mountain]

Like git clone <insert template url here>?

You could also make a script to pregenerate such files, but at that point git will be easier and more reliable

If u use an ide, some allow you to create project templates too, at least I know that in intellij it's possible

[lethal trout]

OHHHHHHHH

YES

YES

THANKS

@lyric mountain UR GREAT

[lyric mountain]

You...please tell me you already used git in ur projects

Like, it's way too dangerous not to use it, and u can use it as a template repository

Just remember to switch detach the origin once u finish cloning the template

[elder jewel]

how can I add things like servercount, or a communities tab on my top.gg page

[lyric mountain]

Get the number of guilds and upload using top.gg api

Further info in #topgg-api

[bright hornet]

errmm why if(!user === undefiend) is not working?

const user = message.mentions.users.first();
    
    if(!user === undefined) {
      message.channel.send("Tag someone")
    } else {
      const messages = await Messages.findOne({
        guildID: message.guild.id,
        userID: message.mentions.users.first()?.id
      })
      const member = message.mentions.users.first()
      message.channel.send(`${member} has ${messages.messageCount} in total.`)
    }```

Keep sending error in console log `messageCount` is undefined

[earnest phoenix]

Remove the ! from the conditional in the if statement's expression, as it converts the user variable into a boolean value

[bright hornet]

ohhh right i forgot

[feral aspen]

Yup, indeed. Anyways, many thanks on the answer to the question.

It has confused us all but was able to achieve the answers and understand it.

[bright hornet]

erm when i pinged someone with the command their username shows up, but if use their id it shows undefined

try {
      const Messages = require('../../messagesSchema');
      const users = message.mentions.users.first() || message.member.id;
      const member = users.username || message.member.id
      if(!users) return message.reply("Tag someone.")
      const messages = await Messages.findOne({
        guildID: message.guild.id,
        userID: message.mentions.users.first()?.id || message.member.id
      })
      
      message.channel.send(`${member} has ${messages.messageCount} in total.`)
    } catch {
      message.channel.send("This member doens't have any records yet.")
    }``` 

Am i missing something?

[lament rock]

string.username is not a valid accessor

just pass message.member instead of message.member.id

Your code is also rather illogical and doesn't make sense from a strictly type perspective

if (!users) will never run because it will fall back to the guild member issuing the command unless this command is being run in DMs which you should be checking anyways.

In your database findOne, you use a logical OR expression to retrieve a value you already have access to users.id assuming users is a GuildMember.

Assignment of variable member is unnecessary since you can just access users.user.username

[covert slate]

how to solve

[pine nova]

[dry imp]

whisper to your device slowly and gently hey, i love you please work uwu 4 times

[covert slate]

🤔 i don't understand your message but
I have resolved it

[dry imp]

your welcome

[covert slate]

I haven't told you thanks 😂

[boreal iron]

Tried that so many times… but this sucker, my PC, doesn’t care.
…oh smashing your head on the keyboard doesn’t work as well.
just to say

[dry imp]

gotta be more gentle fake

[boreal iron]

I can’t… I’m dead inside
Can’t feel anything

[raw nest]

If I have a mysql table with mutliple columns f.e. x, y, z.
And I make an API route where you can send patch requests to. How should I do the params to patch multiple values? Should I make like columns + values and both are arrays so I can map in the backend over'em. Or like for every change a request in the backend?

[boreal iron]

I would use the same structure for all request methods
Instead of an array a JSON stringified object as body to provide the data makes more sense
Where the key is the column and the the value, guess the value

Concert the body back to an object in your backend to check if it’s a valid object

Then escape both the key and the value and build your database query

[spark flint]

how can i set permissions on a slashcommand using SlashCommandBuilder with discord.js

I want it to appear disabled for everyone but me

[feral aspen]

Should this be an issue forwarded to the Discord Developers server or something?

[modest maple]

Never try escape data in order to build a query

[earnest phoenix]

Probably

[feral aspen]

What should be the main issue I should talk about?

Since this has been getting annoying, errors just crashing the application when it's a Discord API issue.

I mean I mentioned the issue, they want proper evidences, do I just show them the code example?

[earnest phoenix]

The subject should be of what you're encountering, as you've said before, you seem to be encountering random Discord API errors, you can ask what the cause of this can be while showing the error you get on those random errors

Yea

[feral aspen]

Sweet.. I'll do so.

[boreal iron]

Well he can also use prepared statements
I just wanted to mention it in the case he doesn’t know

[slender wagon]

member.guild.channels.find(channel => channel.name.includes === "welcome")
how can i check if the channel name includes welcome

ik this isn't correct

[lyric mountain]

how so?

[boreal iron]

.includes(“search string”)

[quartz kindle]

some databases dont support prepared statements for column names

i know sqlite doesnt

[boreal iron]

What a random statement

[quartz kindle]

what i do is manually filter the keys by colum names

[boreal iron]

[boreal iron]

That’s what I said god damn

#development message

Stop being so old, Tim

[quartz kindle]

you said escape the name and value

i didnt say that

[modest maple]

Most

I dont actually know of a single db that does tbh

None of you mainstream dbs do

[boreal iron]

I mean the object key can’t actually be any SQL injection as it wouldn’t be a valid object key anymore after parsing the stringified data

[modest maple]

errr no don't rely on that idea

[boreal iron]

Alright I said escaping them - was wrong, now not escaping them - is wrong to, fuck you all

[quartz kindle]

im talking about filtering, not escaping, ie have an array of actual clumn names that actually exist in the db, then remove all keys from the json that dont exist in that array, before building the query

[boreal iron]

Looks like you didn’t press reply

[boreal iron]

Yeah don’t worry, I got it

[modest maple]

You just shouldn't try to escape anything like that

[boreal iron]

If you don’t use prepared statements of course you escape the value

[modest maple]

No

[quartz kindle]

well, only if somehow your db/lib doesnt support prepared statements

[boreal iron]

Yeah, if

[modest maple]

You should never try to be smart and escape the data

Also prepared statements does not equal parameterized statements

[boreal iron]

No? You just send unescaped values along with your query to risk an injection?
I’m not

[modest maple]

[boreal iron]

Im still not speaking about prepared statements, my gosh

Said this the 3rd time now

[modest maple]

I know

Hence why i said dont try to be smart and escape it

Because thats playing with fire

However what you are doing is lumping prepared statements with parameterized statements

[boreal iron]

How is escaping the value in your query string dangerous?
Not doing it, is dangerous

[modest maple]

I dare you to try escape it correctly

Without someone being able to bypass it

[boreal iron]

Of course I do

[quartz kindle]

the danger is not using the better solution

[boreal iron]

You can’t bypass the escape function

[modest maple]

🤨 what escape function

[boreal iron]

Depends on the language you’re using

One is part of PHPs mysqli extension

Oh I see

[modest maple]

🤨 i have never heard of anything having a direct escape function that makes your data a okay to just send as if its harcoded in the query

[quartz kindle]

php actually does have native escaping functions

parameterized queries were introduced quite late

[modest maple]

Php also has two of the same functions because the first didnt work

[boreal iron]

One is part of PHPs mysqli extension

[quartz kindle]

yes i was confirming what you said

so fish doesnt think you crazy

:^)

[modest maple]

I know what he's talking about now

Although php is a good example of why it's a bad idea

[boreal iron]

Provide an example, please
PHP indeed has lots of functions doing close to the same but they have significant use case differences and speed differences