development

[woeful pike]

literally $2/month

it's so strange like people will spend much more money every week on going outside with their friends just messing around but when it comes to buying things they actually need for their hobby they're like nah king I need this to be free?

[earnest phoenix]

I hate github pages now

I am doing exactly what they are telling me and making a CNAME record that is pointing to <username>.github.io and they say my DNS records are invalid

[woeful pike]

dns can take a while to propagate sometimes

[earnest phoenix]

Mmm ic

I didn't know DNS also took a bit to propagate

Mmm but it seems it doesn't agree with my angular project it doesn't show my website's content 😢

[slender wagon]

bruhh fuck that pug language it's sooo annoying

each val, i in highlighted```
what the heck is this supposed to be

[woeful pike]

just use jsx

all other templating engines are worthless

[slender wagon]

i will but i am trying to convert this to ejs first

[woeful pike]

no stop

[split hazel]

watch me add random cpu throttling ima be rich

[slender wagon]

i have to

[woeful pike]

ejs is nightmare too

[slender wagon]

well it's way better than fking pug

[woeful pike]

they're equally shit

[slender wagon]

https://pugjs.org/language/code.html just look at this

[woeful pike]

I've used pug before it's meh

[split hazel]

what's wrong with ejs i find it great for small projects

[slender wagon]

i am trying to go away from pug at least

but idk how to convert most of this shit pug js to ejs js

[woeful pike]

templating languages always have some cringe limitation. For example ejs doesn't even support the concept of components

[earnest phoenix]

Wtf bro I got it working earlier and I made a few changes and repushed and now this shit again 😢

[woeful pike]

you have to either copy paste code or implement the concept of children or slots using a dynamic import inside a layout file

totally disgusting

[slender wagon]

<div class="col-md-4">
       each val, i in highlighted
        if i < 2
           each articleVal, i in articles 
             if articleVal._id == val.article_id 
              a(href=`/article/${articleVal.num}`)
                .article
                  each catVal, i in category
                    each subcat, i in subCategory
                      if articleVal.category_id == subcat._id
                        p.category-label= subcat.name
                    if articleVal.category_id == catVal._id
                        p.category-label= catVal.name
                  img.img-thumbnail(src= `/uploads/${articleVal.image}` alt='image')
                  h5= `${articleVal.title.substring(0, 60)}...`
                    p= `${new Date(articleVal.date).getDate()}, ${new Date(articleVal.date).getMonth()+1}, ${new Date(articleVal.date).getFullYear()} `
                      span.fa.fa-clock
        
      </div>

just look at thiss

how is my little brain gonna go through this

[earnest phoenix]

What the actual fuck is that

[woeful pike]

dude wyd

you need to do this pre-processing in your controller

send data to your view that's ready to be rendered

don't put this business logic in your templates

[slender wagon]

shid

[woeful pike]

you can much more easily manipulate objects and arrays in regular js, send it to pug and simply render the data there in a clean way

[slender wagon]

i just wanna get rid of pug

convert this to actual js

[woeful pike]

it's not really a pug problem here tho

[slender wagon]

and not pug ejs

the code isn't mine

if it was mine i would've converted it awhile ago

[slender wagon]

the problem is that i know shit about pug

[woeful pike]

you do need to convert this into js by moving this whole thing into a data structure you build up in your controller

ejs isn't the solution here

[slender wagon]

yes that's where i wanna get to

yeah but still i wanna turn it into actual js

not some each val, i in highlighted

like tf is that

[woeful pike]

ejs sucks just as much it's just syntax difference

in fact I'd probably use pug over ejs cuz it has actual features

[slender wagon]

i wanna get rid of pug at this moment

[woeful pike]

if you don't need i you don't need to declare it btw

each x in y

[slender wagon]

wish i could understand pug

is there a way i could convert this pug js to actual js tho

without me having to learn an entire templating language

[woeful pike]

you're only getting the first 2 elements from the array. So go do

const selected = highlighted.slice(0, 2)

in your controller so you don't need this i < 2 check. Use a nested .find so you don't need the article ID check in the template etc

templates are for taking in data and returning html. If you have all of this crazy transformations in here it means your template isn't accepting the data it actually needs

[slender wagon]

<% const selected = highlighted.slice(0, 2) %>
this would be on ejs

[woeful pike]

no

const selected = highlighted.slice(0, 2)
res.render("template", {
  selected
})

pass the data your template needs, not whatever you happen to have

[slender wagon]

ohhh so i can define it from the router

[woeful pike]

yes that's what a controller is

[slender wagon]

gotchya

[woeful pike]

it looks like your template is trying to render something like

const data = [{
  article: {
    category: [...],
    image: "...",
    titlePreview: "...",
    startDate: Date,
    endDate: Date,
  }
}]

but because you're not passing it that data you need to do a ton of noisy transformation on it

[onyx socket]

What does this mean?

[woeful pike]

in a templating language that's not designed to do that kind of thing

[woeful pike]

just please for the love of god don't do this. This was the entirety of top.gg codebase when I joined and it's an absolute nightmare of copy paste. Put your transformation logic inside regular javascript so you can reuse business logic and can include your templates as components where you need it

[woeful pike]

means you kept sending bad data to discord (like an empty message that can't be posted) that made discord error out so they preemptively banned you to prevent you from triggering more errors

[slender wagon]

ty vm for all the suggestions appreciate it ❤️

[gleaming solar]

const app = express();
const port = 8080;

app.get('/', (req, res) => res.send('Hello World!'));

app.listen(port, () => console.log(`Example app listening at http://localhost:${port}`));
'use strict';

const { ShardingManager } = require('discord.js');

const manager = new ShardingManager('./index.js', { token: process.env["TOKEN"], respawn: true });

manager.on('shardCreate', shard => console.log(`Launched shard ${shard.id}`));


manager.spawn({ timeout: Infinity })```

This is my code but a shard died not too long ago and did not respawned why is that?

[spark flint]

mae sure its const not onst

[gleaming solar]

@spark flint in my code it was const I just didn’t copy it right

[old cliff]

What's the issue?

[gleaming solar]

When a shard dies it does not respawn

[old cliff]

Strange

[gleaming solar]

Why?

[old cliff]

It should according to the code

[gleaming solar]

I will keep watch on it if it ever goes down

[feral aspen]

respawn: true? I've never seen that property and I don't use it and I usually CTRL + C to restart. Although, what does the property do?

[gleaming solar]

it should be true by default

[old cliff]

respawn option does exist

[feral aspen]

What does it do, exactly? I'll check documentation.

[old cliff]

It's for the sharding manager

[feral aspen]

It is self-explanatory, but I need some slight bit of more information.

[feral aspen]

I'm aware.

[gleaming solar]

if a shard dies it should respawn because of it being true

[old cliff]

What's the version of djs you're using?

[feral aspen]

Well, how would it die, exactly?

[gleaming solar]

v13

[gleaming solar]

Either by an error or a ram issue

I am not too sure tho

[spark flint]

i've made a great achievement sorta

i'm on r/programminghorror

[old cliff]

Nice

[spark flint]

https://www.reddit.com/r/programminghorror/comments/sj4nz7/jsonstringifyapplicationjson/

because i did an accidental and purpose mistake

res.error == "true" was intented to annoy akshit

JSON.stringify("application/json") wasn't tho

[old cliff]

You deserve programmer hell jail

[spark flint]

ok

[gleaming solar]

@old cliff Do you know a tutorial for Lavalink and JDA? Or Nodejs?

[sharp saddle]

no

[dry imp]

yes

[slender wagon]

@woeful pike ${articleVal.title.substring(0, 60)}... sorry to bother but what are the 3 dots in here used for

I've seen it in a few cases in pug

[pale vessel]

that's just formatting

Here's a Long Titl...

[slender wagon]

so it's just text?

[pale vessel]

yeah

[slender wagon]

it doesn't matter if i get rid of it

[pale vessel]

don't think so

[slender wagon]

oki good ty

[pulsar bone]

if '69' in message.content:
     while db['que']==True:
        await asyncio.sleep(10)

as per my knowledge this code isn't reacting with discord api so I don't think it can get my bot temp banned just asking before implementing

using it so that only one command can be active at a time since my bot commands take more than 2hours to complete

[lyric mountain]

== True you never ever need to compare something to a raw boolean

I don't think it can get my bot temp banned
ye, you only get temp banned if you call the api too many times

discord (or any other service) doesn't care what you do behind the scenes

that said, that piece of code is a pipe bomb

I'd at least limit who can run it

[quartz kindle]

the heck do you do that takes two hours?

[raw nest]

Quick question I was thinking about.
What if there would be a decentralized login system. Like if you have a company and the accounts are saved in a blockchain. Wouldn't that be very secure and quite interesting to have? (Hypothetically)

[slender wagon]

sleep and eat

[quartz kindle]

also very slow

[slender wagon]

const pug = require('pug');
const ejs = require('ejs')
router.set("view engine", "pug");
router.set("view engine", "ejs");

is using 2 view engines like this a thing

[raw nest]

slow? Why, I mean the Solana Blockchain takes just a few seconds and everything's done

[quartz kindle]

highly doubt it

[pulsar bone]

broadcasting news in 1000 diff channels with cooldown of 1 sec before sending a message

using the above code to make it broadcast 1 news first and 2 news will be in queue until broadcast of 1st news doesn't end and turn the boolean into false

[slender wagon]

hmmm

i gotta use both for testing

[quartz kindle]

a few seconds vs a few miliseconds to connect and check a dedicated database

[raw nest]

well okay true... but you don't need to login all the time, do you?

[quartz kindle]

also, wouldnt you need to pay to store a new user in the chain?

[raw nest]

If you would have an own blockchain you can choose this by your own...

[quartz kindle]

yeah but if you use an existing chain like solana

[raw nest]

yes then you would have to pay.

[modest maple]

👏 Its a bad idea

dont do it

dont buy into the web3 shit

[quartz kindle]

creating a whole new blockchain just for logins sounds like overcomplicating something simple

[raw nest]

I won't I was just wondering about it xD

[raw nest]

With this I can not agree

[raw nest]

yes true but as I said everything hypothetically xD

[boreal iron]

Regarding the discussion of last night, complicated is exactly what he wants to have

[quartz kindle]

would be better to run the next item in the queue, if it exists, at the end of the previous job, instead of checking whether the job is done every x time

[raw nest]

Nah I found a simple "workaround" 🤷‍♂️

[boreal iron]

[pulsar bone]

tutorial source?

[quartz kindle]

you dont need a tutorial for that, its just simple logic

just do something like this

queue = [];
running = False;

on command:
  add job to queue
  if running == False:
    send_news();

def send_news():
    news = queue[0];
    running = True;
    for channel in channels:
      await channel.send(news)
    remove item from queue
    running = False;
    if queue size > 0:
      send_news();
``` idk python so idk the exact syntaxes

[modest maple]

mass message™️

[quartz kindle]

well, nothing wrong if they are properly subscribed to them

but yeah

[modest maple]

yeah

although webhooks so be your friend

[tribal crow]

Hey! My bot won't go online after starting it. It doesn't go online and the ready event isn't triggered

[boreal iron]

Check if you got banned for 24h for too many login attempts

[tribal crow]

How?

[earnest phoenix]

You missed () like client.once('ready', async () => {

[tribal crow]

shouldnt be the problem, has always worked like yhat

[boreal iron]

Catch the client login if you don’t handle errors yet

[tribal crow]

client.login(process.env.TOKEN).catch(console.error);

already do

[boreal iron]

No error, nothing not even after a few seconds?

[tribal crow]

nope, i've waited a few minutes now

[boreal iron]

If you have the chance try to start the bot on a different PC with a different IP address

[tribal crow]

ait

hmmmm

that works...

[dry imp]

banned?

[tribal crow]

wdym?

The bot isn't banned

Can't be if it works from another ip

[dry imp]

banned ip

rate limit?

[tribal crow]

how do i know?

[dry imp]

if it works from different ip then its either banned ip or rate limited

[tribal crow]

Idk how it may be rate limited

cuz

[boreal iron]

I’m theory you should receive an error if your IP got banned temporarily

[tribal crow]

or i mean

[dry imp]

it should

[boreal iron]

It might be some sort of connection issue or really an IP (range) ban even if that’s not your fault

Give it a few hours or at least 24h and try again

Host the bot meanwhile on a different IP if possible

[dry imp]

if it is on development then you could use replit and do kill 1 everytime this happens ig

[tribal crow]

its repl.it yes

[dry imp]

do kill 1 in terminal

or shell

or whatever replit called it

[tribal crow]

shell

now what

[dry imp]

if so then that might be why you get rate limited

[tender violet]

Yes.

[dry imp]

you've kill 1?

[tender violet]

Kill 1 always works for me

[tribal crow]

yes

[dry imp]

try again

starting your bot

[tribal crow]

ty

ily <3

[dry imp]

cuz replit sucks ass

np

[tribal crow]

yeah

[boreal iron]

At the end any free service has major downsides

[dry imp]

true

[quartz kindle]

async is a reserved word, its incorrect to use it like that

client.once('ready', () => { would be correct

also, you can see what exactly your bot is doing by using the debug event:
client.on("debug", console.log)

[earnest phoenix]

not in node v16

[ember gust]

what does this log though

everything?

[quartz kindle]

it logs discord.js's internal things, like connecting to the websocket

[old cliff]

You can use erlea.js for node

It has a tutorial

[tulip ledge]

Hi, im trying to make a bot for clash of clans which will send clan messages to our discord, I already made such thing using minecraft but I used an already existing yarn package for the actual bot in minecraft, does anyone have an idea on how to make a bot in coc?

Pls ping me if u answer

[tribal crow]

To use buttons, do i need a onclick event?

like if i want a certain code to be executed

[old cliff]

I don't think you will have access to coc messages.... is there a developer api for coc?

[ember gust]

for bots? no buttons use a collector for disc bots

[lament rock]

buttons fire the interaction event

[boreal iron]

guess hes speaking about buttons in a website

[ivory siren]

any ideas why am I getting this error on my new vps (it was working fine on the prev one tho)
Language: Python
Library Used: Pycord (a fork of dpy)

client_connection: Connection<ConnectionKey(host='gateway.discord.gg', port=443, is_ssl=True, ssl=None, proxy=None, proxy_auth=None, proxy_headers_hash=None)>

[royal herald]

ok idk how tf but it says "Error: Cannot find module 'lodash/get'"

but

loadash/get isnt a module on npm

and theres loadash.get but i need loadash/get

[pine nova]

u have loadash installed?

loadash/get probably means requiring the get dir/module from parent module i.e. lodash

[royal herald]

oh

[royal herald]

i do

[pine nova]

just require it then

[royal herald]

oh

[pine nova]

require('loadash/get`)

or wtv lodash

o wait it doesnt have a dir /get

[tulip ledge]

yes, but not messages that's why I was thinking of making a bot but I don't know how as I can't use pupeteer for a mobile game

[tribal crow]

Hey! How would i check if the user who clicks a button is the same user that executed the command?

[boreal iron]

Do you speak about interactions?

[tribal crow]

Yes

[boreal iron]

You could fetch the intial interaction reply

interaction.fetchReply()

https://discord.js.org/#/docs/discord.js/stable/class/ButtonInteraction?scrollTo=fetchReply

[lament rock]

You don't have to fetch the reply. You can assign callbacks to button custom_ids in your own code and then check that in the callback

The easiest way to deal with buttons is to make your own callback system

[boreal iron]

But the button interaction does not contain any information about the inital reply

The custom id doesn't change the fact it can be used by anybody.

[lament rock]

This is true, but you can use a "nonce" system with unique custom_ids

[boreal iron]

I mean you could send an ephermal error if the user ID pressing the button isn't the one you expect

[lament rock]

https://github.com/AmandaDiscord/CallbackComponents/blob/main/index.js

This is a sample system I made which makes the relation of the Discord.js MessageButton Constructor and callbacks in code

ThunderStorm is my remake of Discord.js, but cacheless

[tribal crow]

using this example, reply.what?

[boreal iron]

huh what?

[tribal crow]

  .then(reply => console.log(`Replied with ${reply.content}`))
  .catch(console.error);```

reply.content only returns the message i'm replying with

same with just reply

[lament rock]

You should probably avoid using that because it would not scale well and you would hit rate limit buckets

[tribal crow]

oh ok

[lament rock]

The best way to do it is the way I suggested

[tribal crow]

can you explain that a bit easier?

[lament rock]

Not directly using what I linked though since that's for my own lib

You should read through the code and try to pick apart what you need

[tribal crow]

alr

[lament rock]

ThunderStorm is basically the same as Discord.js so it's just a drop and rename kinda deal

[boreal iron]

You should really cache the member ID which executed you command and compare it to the user ID of your custom button ID

[lament rock]

That would still require some relation to be made. Buttons should be callbacks anyways

[boreal iron]

Yeah you could add it to the guild cache or channel cache

That would be the easiest way

[lament rock]

what

[boreal iron]

The next member executing the command would overwrite the ID then

[lament rock]

[boreal iron]

Store the member ID as property of your cached channel, my gosh English is bad today

If a button interaction is used check if the property exists in this channel, if yes, compare the value (user ID) to your button interaction member ID

Couldn't be easier

It would be a good idea to store a map of the interaction ID and the user executed the command

To make sure multiple users running the same command can still interact with the button after

[tribal crow]

ok

so

could you try to explain how?

like what to do?

[lament rock]

Everyone's code is different so that's largely up to you

I showed you what I believe to be the best and easiest way to go about things without doing anything jank and dependent on ideal conditions

[tribal crow]

ok

but

[tribal crow]

u mean this link right?

[lament rock]

Yes

[tribal crow]

Wait

dev or main branch?

[lament rock]

I haven't bothered looking into v14-dev yet, so main

Oh. wait. dev on my repo

dev is outdated

use main

[tribal crow]

ok

uhm

sorry but i dont understand anything of this

[split hazel]

same

[lament rock]

// exclude customId from data you pass since it gets overwritten
interaction.reply({ components: [new Discord.MessageActionRow({ components: [new BetterComponet(dataForComponent).setCallback(() => code()).toComponent())] }] });

Then you just pass the MessageComponentInteraction to the lib handle and it takes care of the rest

[hybrid roost]

is it requires Message Intent if I ping my bot?

If your bot requires reading the contents of a message, such as for registering a complaint, a user can ping your bot by doing @KartonMaid, and then your bot will be able to read anything within that message.

Discord sent me as answer to my application

[wheat mesa]

if your bot is mentioned in a message then the content will be sent to your bot without needing the message intent iirc

[hybrid roost]

okay, thanks

cause I got a little misconception about it while reading email

[shy turret]

little question: would ws or fastify-websocket be faster at handling websocket connections?

(ping me back pls, NPMs [node.js] btw)

[woeful pike]

uWebsockets.js

but it replaces your entire webserver so maybe only use it for the ws handling on a separate webserver

[earnest phoenix]

how do I define the function that is called when a button is clicked?

[sudden geyser]

Depends on what library you're using

When using the API, you give Discord a structure for what the components (buttons) will look like. You can't just send Discord a function to run when the button is clicked since Discord only cares about the data on that button.

When a user clicks a button, you'll get some data and indicators for what button was clicked (usually through a custom ID you set).

[sonic tusk]

how do i log votes

[sudden geyser]

Some libraries may streamline this process for you so you can provide a function, but, under the hood, it's doing what I've outlined.

[sudden geyser]

You may be interested in using the webhooks API. https://docs.top.gg/resources/webhooks/

[sonic tusk]

ok

[round cove]

Are you fr rn

[split hazel]

you make a loop to dm ppl

[round cove]

Speedy

[split hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-pilled-gif-19289988

[earnest phoenix]

Im trying to make this command where if i type the command in the chat and i mention the user it sends a direct message to the user. but ive tried the things that i know and i kept on getting errors. so anyone that knows the code to it please reply to this message

[solemn latch]

we do not spoonfeed code here

best to show the error instead

[earnest phoenix]

well i tried different codes and kept getting errors

[solemn latch]

probably best to fix the error rather than replace the code entirely

[boreal iron]

Well randomly copy and pasting code won’t get you far

The stuff you can find on the ‘net is most likely outdated

[earnest phoenix]

i did this code but it didnt work message.author.send(dm);

[solemn latch]

what error did you get?

[boreal iron]

Well you’re the message author

Not an user you specified

[earnest phoenix]

yeah i just realized that i didnt put user

[boreal iron]

You gotta get the member/user object from the message mentions

[earnest phoenix]

i got this error Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'send')

[boreal iron]

Show the associated code

Basically the whole command

[earnest phoenix]

require('discord-reply')

module.exports = {
    name: 'dm',
    async execute(client, message, args){

        let user = message.mentions.members.first() || message.guild.members.cache.get(args[0])

        const dm = new Discord.MessageEmbed()
        .setTitle('test')
        .setDescription('Test')

        message.user.send(dm);
    }
}```

[boreal iron]

You define user as your var

Why do you wanna send the message to the message.user then?

user represents your member object

Use it to send the message

Also why do you import discord-reply?

You shouldn’t import stuff you don’t use

[wheat mesa]

saw this on a tutorial for working with postgres, isn't this a terrible terrible idea? Connecting and then releasing each time?

[solemn latch]

doesnt that defeat the purpose of a pool? 👀

[boreal iron]

I let my pool connection open until the process exists

[boreal iron]

It does

[earnest phoenix]

i am going to use it so it replys to the user that used the command

[boreal iron]

message.user.send() sends a message to the user who has executed your command

[modest maple]

also as an fyi you wont release the connection if you error on that query

[boreal iron]

You wanna send your dm to the member you mentioned

Therefore it’s user.send()

Based on your code

[earnest phoenix]

dont i use let user = message.mentions; or i have to change it to var

[solemn latch]

has nothing to do with let, var or const

you are accessing message.user, but havent assigned anything to message.user

you assigned it to just user

https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/understanding-variables-scope-hoisting-in-javascript

[wheat mesa]

so I've never really worked that much with postgres before but I'm trying to move away from mongo because it's a hot mess

is it possible to make a string key and object value in postgres?

if that makes sense

[solemn latch]

afaik, postgres has no object value, but you can always store it as a string and convert to an object

[wheat mesa]

oh yeah that's probably a good idea

[shy turret]

~~i've been dying for the past few hours. how do you get UintContents?
||I found https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/TextDecoder, but I'm not using utf8, nor can find a way to just decode the numbers in Uint8Contents... or maybe I'm blind.||
I'm trying to find a way to send Int8Array() to a websocket then decode that Uint8Contents into an array like [2, 4].

what I'm sending:

let array = new Int8Array(2);
array[0] = 2;
array[1] = 4;

ws.send(array);

what I'm receiving:

ArrayBuffer { [Uint8Contents]: <02 04>, byteLength: 2 }

I'm assuming I need to put something inside TextDecoder().

let string = new TextDecoder().decode(message);
console.log(string)

-> the result i want: create an array [2, 4] (which is based off the received values). ||all i need is the numbers in Uint8Contents as an array.||
-> actual result: outputs (i think) 2 blank spaces.~~

solution: new Int8Array(message);

[wheat mesa]

also how do I query postgres safely without accidentally doing a funny injection attack

nvm I think I figured it out

nevermind again, I'm big stupid

never done much with SQL in general

[boreal iron]

Var is the short form of variable
In your case let user… is a var you declared

that’s the reason why var is called var

[spark flint]

I think my computer science teacher is el stupido

[wheat mesa]

now I'm just incredibly confused

I can't even get a basic query to work lmao

[spark flint]

Exam:
Write an SQL statement to select all fields from the results table where the students are in the art class
My answer:
SELECT * FROM Results WHERE "Class" = "Art"
Mark scheme:
Correct
My mark:
Wrong

[boreal iron]

You values need to be strings

[wheat mesa]

tried it both ways, same errors

[boreal iron]

Never saw test being an integer

[quartz kindle]

single quotes

'test'

[wheat mesa]

that was it

I officially hate sql

[spark flint]

mongo >>>>>>>

[boreal iron]

Postgres exclusive?

Usually it doesn’t matter if double or single quote

[wheat mesa]

time to figure out parameterized queries, and the best way to store an object

[surreal knoll]

You guys know how to update replit version?
All yt vids dont work 😕

[boreal iron]

But I’m not a Postgres user

[dry imp]

wdym replit version

[quartz kindle]

idk i dont use postgres either

[boreal iron]

JSON stringify it even if I don’t get why you would store an object

[surreal knoll]

node version

spelling err

[quartz kindle]

.nix method

[boreal iron]

Might be the app he’s using, SQL syntax doesn’t care about single or double quote actually

[wheat mesa]

I'm using pgadmin for testing some queries, that's probably a postgres thing

[boreal iron]

Yeah so the app might be the issue here

It may expects single quotes for strings

[earnest phoenix]

Mongo > 🤮

[boreal iron]

You can’t compare document based databases to complex relational (table based) databases

[earnest phoenix]

how do I give buttons functionality

[sharp saddle]

hey, what's is happen with discord.js?

all of my projects is giving a fetch error

[earnest phoenix]

Maybe you updated to v13?

[earnest phoenix]

[boreal iron]

True

[earnest phoenix]

so true 😂

[sharp saddle]

is in v13

[boreal iron]

You subscribe to the interactionCreate event

[sharp saddle]

i use mongodb

[boreal iron]

Pressing a button will trigger that event

[earnest phoenix]

hmm okay I will search that up thank you

[boreal iron]

Your client receives that event

[earnest phoenix]

Yes

[boreal iron]

The event comes with the interaction object, in your case a button interaction which contains all infos about your interaction

[dry imp]

its okay

[frigid robin]

@lyric mountain I made lots of fixes and noticed that the bot is usually at 0.5%-2% CPU usage, but from time to time (matter of a few hours) it suddenly spikes to 100% and that's when it dies. I looked and I really have no potential infinite loops or something like that. I had many unhandled exceptions which I fixed now. I noticed the CPU doesn't go slowly up so I doubt it's a mem leak or something like that. It's about 0.6-2% for hours and could spike to 100% in a few seconds and then stay at that. I have 2 guesses now

1. Maybe someone is stressing the bot? It died twice or 3 times at night and works pretty much flawlessly the rest of the time
2. Can it be related to me using async wrongly? I do call some synchronous functions in my code. Namely using sqlite and querying my database for every message received.. should I be using aiosqlite (Sqlite for AsyncIO) (just found about it now)?

[lyric mountain]

just use official (?) sqlite lib

but that shouldn't cause spikes

[frigid robin]

yep I'm using the official one for now

[lyric mountain]

try using a profiler to see where it spends the most time processing

[frigid robin]

hmm nice idea. I thought in the direction of cpu monitoring but this is also an idea

ty

[tiny token]

how do i get guild roles for a dashboard ?

using Oauth2

[lyric mountain]

also, make sure not to have many async tasks at once

remember it all runs in a single thread

[earnest phoenix]

How can I edit a previous sent message when I click a button

[tiny token]

get message , edit message

on button click ^

[earnest phoenix]

bruh

tHaNks

xD

but any Idea how I can get the message?

[tiny token]

nO pRoBlEm

[earnest phoenix]

??!!

[tiny token]

what library ?

[earnest phoenix]

dcjs

13

[tiny token]

pretty sure you need the message reference / id

[earnest phoenix]

Yes but how do I get that ID

[tiny token]

then do channel.messages.fetch()

[tiny token]

you either have to get all the messages in the channel then filter them to find the one you want

or parse a link to the message

or have the message id stored from when it was sent

you cant just manifest an id from nothing , there must be some kind of start point

[earnest phoenix]

Yeah I am trying it rn with this one

Yes it worked

[earnest phoenix]

@wheat mesa shut up kthxbai <3

So me and waffle have been having issues lately when using typeorm. We get this error No repository for "Tag" was found. Looks like this entity is not registered in current "default" connection? after the connection is formed and we then run a command that utilizes the table to create an entry.

[rose lance]

yo, I am currently experimenting with a combination of flexboxes and grids to achieve some kinda layout, but somehow my flexbox seems to rather like to have some space in between instead of using the space to have no line breaks

[sharp saddle]

FetchError: request to https://discord.com/api/v9/gateway/bot failed, reason: connect ECONNREFUSED```

???

discord.js giving this error

[lament rock]

Discord's API just sometimes goes out. Something you have to deal with. Discord.js is not at fault

[sharp saddle]

oh

so isn't it DISCORD.JS?

oke

[lament rock]

it is not, correct

[sharp saddle]

how do i fix this error? Or is there no way?

[lament rock]

Try again later

[sharp saddle]

this has been going on for over 2 hours

[sharp saddle]

should i worry?

[green kestrel]

https://dpp.dev/cpp-eval-command-discord.html

^^ for the curious and those who enjoy pain

[round cove]

Brain coming in

Okay Brain now make even more docs for D++ and examples :^)

[green kestrel]

lmao

have you seen how many examples there are 😄

[round cove]

Has it changed since I last checked? I swear there were only a handful.

[green kestrel]

theres about 30 lol

expand the example programs section

and also third party libs that go alongside it for stuff like youtube streaming

[sudden geyser]

Is there really no C++ interpreter you can pull up instead of raw compiling?

[wheat mesa]

still stuck on this, not sure why. here's our entity: ```ts
import { Entity, BaseEntity, PrimaryGeneratedColumn, Column } from 'typeorm';

@Entity('tags')
export class Tag extends BaseEntity {
@PrimaryGeneratedColumn()
_id!: number;

@Column({ name: 'name', type: 'text', nullable: false })
name!: string;

@Column({ name: 'description', type: 'text', nullable: false })
description!: string;

@Column({ name: 'thumbnail', type: 'text', nullable: true })
thumbnail?: string;

@Column({ name: 'color', type: 'integer', nullable: true })
color?: number;

}

[earnest phoenix]

The entity itself isn't the issue here

I can almost guarantee that it is how we are creating the connection

[wheat mesa]

Most likely

[green kestrel]

nah, C++ isnt an interpreted language

and even if there was such a thing, it wouldnt have access to the native compiled bot

ive seen a few such "interpreters" but generally theyre trash

e.g. they dont support even C++03

[lyric mountain]

Imagine an interpreted c++

Ngl that's nightmare fuel

[sudden geyser]

Yes, but how about running an interpreted version of it? I haven't used C++, but Cling looks interesting. Plus, you can embed it (so maybe it can access the bot instance)

[lyric mountain]

Oh, you mean that

Java can do it

Tbh, jvm can run anything on it

[sudden geyser]

Pretty much any language should be able to do it

It's just about shipping the compiler (and runtime potentially) with the program.

[lyric mountain]

In the case of c++ it can be run almost directly by java and kotlin (idk abt other jvm languages)

Cuz JNI

So you can make a two-way communication between both languages on same runtime

[sudden geyser]

What you're talking about seems to be more concerned about communicating across languages (externals)

and not about how to make dynamically evaluating C++ code not take a century to load

[white anvil]

c++ was never meant to be interpreted, it has no vm like c#/java/js

hell it doesn’t even have a runtime

everything is dynamically linked at compile time

[sudden geyser]

It wasn't meant to, but that doesn't mean it can't. :p
I'm interested in if what I've described is possible and has a less atrocious output than what's currently available.

[white anvil]

yeah it’s possible, but that doesn’t mean it will ever be practical

[sudden geyser]

But will it be more practical than the current implementation?

[white anvil]

yeah probably but not enough to warrant using it

interpretation will always be slower than native execution and it’s just not worth it in the context of a single command for a discord bot

[sudden geyser]

All of the time right now is being spent on compiling (9 seconds), so interpreting that so it takes, let's say, 0.3 seconds, would be a net positive. Even for one command, you might as well not have it given the compile time is too slow to be useful.

Not having it is probably the solution, but live, dynamic evaluation of code is useful, but at odds with C++.

[white anvil]

yeah the design philosophy is just different

it’s cool to see traditionally compiled languages turned into an interpreted version but the debate of interpreted/jit compiled vs traditional compilation is a lengthy one

personally i am a huge fan of compile time errors over runtime errors and it’s not something i would ever want to give up

[sudden geyser]

I don't see it as a debate. I see it more as an integration—run a compiled bot, but, for convenience, test it dynamically. It's a different story for REPL-driven environments like lisps, but that's irrelevant here. It's just about running code and getting a response. Some platforms are just too slow or don't offer the support for that, so interpreters pop up.

[white anvil]

The issues caused by having a runtime be the source of errors is not something i think a lot of people would want to experience even in development

and anyway techniques like incremental compilation and optimisation strategy mean that compile times can be very minimal without an interpreter

[sudden geyser]

There are a lot of good things about having a runtime though. You can run and test a program interactively and not have to restart from the very beginning. Heck, lots of software like React's hot reloading and Discord.js examples on creating a reload command came from wanting to develop quicker and more lively rather than editing, compiling (can take a while, but depends, like you mentioned), and running, and still having a chance of hitting a runtime error even with a static type system.

[lyric mountain]

No, like, imagine something like python and cython

[lyric mountain]

Rython

[sudden geyser]

Iython

[woeful pike]

kekw klay having to defend dynamic typing yet again

[sudden geyser]

it is a hill I've died on many times

but as I sank into the ground, someone pulled me up, and whispered in my ear, "typescript sucks"

and I was reborn and kept walking

but my preference of dynamic typing doesn't have to do with this discussion.

[solemn jolt]

const data = {},
      coede = client.randomCode(6)
data[message.author.id] = coede;

why i have error in data[message.author.id]

[earnest phoenix]

What is the error

I don't think you can assign stuff like that to an object

[solemn jolt]

data[req.user.id] = coede;
^
TypeError: Cannot set properties of null (setting '735874386200100974')
at /workspace/src/routers/dashboard/create.js:17:21
at processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:96:5)
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this is the error

[earnest phoenix]

coede is null it seems

[solemn jolt]

no i test it in console code is get me random code like qcr3h6

[boreal iron]

data[req.user.id] as in your error is not data[message.author…] as you wrote above

[earnest phoenix]

Well the error seems to be saying you are trying to set that as null value

[boreal iron]

The code he shows is not causing the error

[solemn jolt]

this is the same thing becouse ithis is node error not discord.js error

[earnest phoenix]

I notice that now

[earnest phoenix]

Mmm but what you are doing there could be entirely different so show the proper code

create.js line 17

[solemn jolt]

const data = {};
  let coede = "";
  const possible = "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789";
  for (let i = 0; i < 6; i++) {
    coede += possible.charAt(Math.floor(Math.random() * possible.length));
  }
  data[req.user.id] = coede;

this is the code

[earnest phoenix]

okay are you sure coede is actually what you think it is

[solemn jolt]

yes

[earnest phoenix]

Have you loggedd it

[solemn jolt]

yes

[boreal iron]

Please log data and coede and show us the results
Please add this line, too before logging both vars
data.test = true;

[solemn jolt]

ok

[boreal iron]

Either I’m blind or this error doesn’t make sense tho

cough

[solemn jolt]

TypeError: Cannot set properties of null (setting 'test')
at /workspace/src/routers/dashboard/create.js:12:13
at processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:96:5)
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npm notice

error again

[boreal iron]

What about the log results?

[solemn jolt]

nothing just the error

[boreal iron]

Wut

[solemn jolt]

const data = {}
  data.test = true;
  let coede = "";
  const possible = "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789";
  for (let i = 0; i < 6; i++) {
    coede += possible.charAt(Math.floor(Math.random() * possible.length));
  }
  console.log(coede)
  console.log(data)

[earnest phoenix]

What

That makes no sense

[boreal iron]

Wtf

Please change the keyword of data to let instead of const

[solemn jolt]

i now

[boreal iron]

Even if that doesn’t make any sense

[solemn jolt]

ok ill try

[boreal iron]

If that doesn’t work please declare data as non-empty object

For example: let data = { test: "something" };

Will brb

[solemn jolt]

data.test = true;
^
TypeError: Cannot set properties of null (setting 'test')
at /workspace/src/routers/dashboard/create.js:12:13
at processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:96:5)
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npm notice

again same error

[earnest phoenix]

🤔

[solemn jolt]

i try it before this is not giving me error

my luck in code = %0🥲

[boreal iron]

Dunno why shouldn’t be able to set properties to an empty object

Weird

[earnest phoenix]

I feel like smth else is going on here

[solemn jolt]

i dont now this is error with no reason 🥲

[earnest phoenix]

Mmmm

[solemn jolt]

const app = require('express').Router();
const { Client } = require("discord.js")
const client = global.Client;
const db = require("../../database/models/user.js");
let data = {}
app.get("/create", global.checkAuth, async (req, res) => {
  let data = await db.findOne({ userID: req.user.id });
  if (data) return res.redirect("/dashboard");
  if (!client.guilds.cache.get(config.server.id).members.cache.get(req.user.id)) return res.redirect("/error?code=403&message=To do this, you have to join our discord server.");
  let coede = "";
  const possible = "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789";
  for (let i = 0; i < 6; i++) {
    coede += possible.charAt(Math.floor(Math.random() * possible.length));
  }
  data[req.user.id] = coede;
  res.render("dashboard/create.ejs", {
    code: coede,
    bot: global.Client,
    path: req.path,
    config: global.config,
    user: req.isAuthenticated() ? req.user : null,
    req: req,
    roles: global.config.server.roles,
    channels: global.config.server.channels,
    data,
  })
})

app.post("/create", global.checkAuth, async (req, res) => {
  const {
    botTOKEN,
    ownerID,
    verify,
  } = req.body;
  if (verify !== data[ownerID]) return res.redirect(`/dashboard/create?error=true&message=You need to type verify code.`)
  const cllient = new Client();
  await cllient.login(botTOKEN)
    .then(async cl => {
      const tt = await db.findOne({ token: botTOKEN })
      if (tt) return res.send({ error: true, message: "The token is already added before" })
      await new db({
        userID: ownerID,
        botID: cl.id,
        Date: new Date(),
        token: botTOKEN
      }).save()

    }) // success
    .catch(error => res.send({ error: true, message: "The token is invaled." + error })); // error
})

module.exports = app;

this is the all code

[earnest phoenix]

I think I see the issue now

Tho I can hardly tell cause that code is bleh

[solemn jolt]

whats it

[lapis cliff]

How do I setup multiple status for the bot?
javascript

[proud oracle]

why am I getting this error?

[earnest phoenix]

To me it looks like you are defining data twice so it likely doesn't know which one to use

You define it in a global scope for that file and then inside that function scope

Why are you replying to me with that

[solemn jolt]

no i get it 😅

ill fix it

[earnest phoenix]

try renaming one of those variables

that might fix it

[proud oracle]

is this right?

[earnest phoenix]

as of right now it probably thinks you are trying to use the one in that function call

[proud oracle]

pls help

[earnest phoenix]

try it and see

[proud oracle]

not working

[earnest phoenix]

Then its not right

Do you get any errors?

[proud oracle]

no

[proud oracle]

wait yes

[earnest phoenix]

Then post the error

[earnest phoenix]

You are giving it an invalid token when logging in

[proud oracle]

I added the valid token still it's showing error, I just removed to show you

[earnest phoenix]

...

It obviously isn't a valid token if it is erroring and saying so

Unless djs fucked up their login method again

[lunar palm]

It's working for my bots

[earnest phoenix]

Then it is likely you are not providing a valid token Jethalal

So please make sure you are

[solemn jolt]

work thank you

[earnest phoenix]

No problem

[proud oracle]

I solved the old error but I got a new one

[earnest phoenix]

What are you doing

[proud oracle]

I am making my command work only for voters

upvote command

using top.gg sdk

[earnest phoenix]

I assume that is a top.gg sdk erorr but the looks of it

So you need a api token for it to work

[proud oracle]

so what I need to do now?

[earnest phoenix]

Get your api token and use it

[proud oracle]

ok

[proud oracle]

this?

[earnest phoenix]

yes

[proud oracle]

ok

[proud oracle]

I'm already using it

[boreal iron]

Yikes didn’t expect he already defined the var

[earnest phoenix]

nor did i

[boreal iron]

Oh I see he has overwritten data with his database result

Hardly to see the scopes on mobile

So it wasn’t an empty object anymore

[earnest phoenix]

yep

[earnest phoenix]

How do I add more that 1 button to an Action row

By making more than one button and adding that other button

[earnest phoenix]

🧠 🧠 🧠

[boreal iron]

Just by adding a second button object to the array

[onyx socket]

what is the most preferred way of adding slash commands in python bots...Like there are many libraries, discord-py-slash-commands, disnake etc..

which one should i use

[slender thistle]

Try out all of them and see which one you like

[onyx socket]

...

[boreal iron]

"components": [
                {
                    "type": 2,
                    "label": "Click me!",
                    "style": 1,
                    "custom_id": "click_one"
                },
                {
                    "type": 2,
                    "label": "Click me!",
                    "style": 1,
                    "custom_id": "click_second_button"
                }
            ]

[boreal iron]

Didn’t you cry last time when I gave such an answer, I do remember

[dry imp]

py-cord

[onyx socket]

o

[dry imp]

dont use third party lib that is specific just for slash

it will get outdated and you would need to refactor your code

[onyx socket]

hmm

[onyx socket]

thanks for the input-

[bright hornet]

can i ask here a question?

I have a code for fetching all members with the given role. But it keeps giving me an error like this Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'members') Here's the full detail of the code.

module.exports = class TestCommand extends BaseCommand {
  constructor() {
    super('test', 'testing', []);
  }

async run (client, message, args) {

  const roles = message.mentions.roles.first();

  if(roles == undefined) {
    message.channel.send("Wrong syntax. Please try again")
    } else {
      const ListEmbed = new MessageEmbed()
  
      .setTitle(`Person who have this ${roles} role is:`)
      .setDescription(message.guild.roles.cache.get(role => role.name == roles).members.map(m=>m.user.tag).join('\n'))
      .setColor('RANDOM')
      .setTimestamp()
      message.channel.send({embeds: [ListEmbed]}).catch((err) => {
        console.log(err)
        message.channel.send("Something went wrong")
      });
    }
  }
}

[digital lotus]

  at Api._request (C:\Users\aweso\Desktop\Mursy\node_modules\@top-gg\sdk\dist\structs\Api.js:76:19)                                   
    at runMicrotasks (<anonymous>)                                                                                                      
     at processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:96:5)                                                               
    at async Api.postStats (C:\Users\aweso\Desktop\Mursy\node_modules\@top-gg\sdk\dist\structs\Api.js:99:9) {                           
  response: Response {                                                                                                                  
    size: 0,                                                                                                                            
     timeout: 0,                                                                                                                         
   [Symbol(Body internals)]: { body: [PassThrough], disturbed: true, error: null },                                                    
    [Symbol(Response internals)]: {                                                                                                     
     url: 'https://top.gg/api/bots/stats',                                                                                             
    status: 524,                                                                                                                      
      statusText: undefined,                                                                                                            
      headers: [Headers],                                                                                                               
  counter: 0                                                                                                                        
     }                                                                                                                                  
   }                                                                                                                                 
 }  ```

I just received this error

[pale vessel]

handle your errors

it's a site issue

[digital lotus]

ok was just curious first time I ever received this error and wasnt sure what was going on

[dusty wave]

Is AI based toxicity filter a good idea of a bad idea?

[modest maple]

bad

I doubt you'll have enough CPU power to make it reliable and fast

[woeful pike]

this is a good writeup for why it's not a good idea https://github.com/almostSouji/sentinel

[dusty wave]

Hmm No I have a custom AI

[woeful pike]

then it's definitely nowhere as good as perspective

[dusty wave]

It uses perspective

[woeful pike]

[dusty wave]

but it been trained

for discord

[modest maple]

I think

you dont quite realise

just how much load that can entail

[dusty wave]

i do thats why I am wondering if its a good idea

[woeful pike]

how do you have an AI that uses an existing machine learning model API but is also trained by itself

[modest maple]

its not a good idea

[woeful pike]

I think if you have an ML model capable of understanding the nuances in everyday conversations without being overbearing you need to create a business not a discord bot

[dusty wave]

Its not a single AI thats the point.
Its made of 2 AI

[woeful pike]

that's like an actual billion dollar problem

[modest maple]

thats...

2 AI does not fix things

it generally makes it far worse

because then you have two places where the computer can loose it's mind

[dusty wave]

the other AI is only few kb and is capable of learning on the fly from the main ai
Which helps decrease performance costs and increase response speed

[woeful pike]

2 AIs be like

if (await ai1.isToxic(message)) {
  return yikes()
}
if (await ai2.isToxic(message)) {
  return yikes()
}

[modest maple]

that does not work like that

[woeful pike]

like I don't wanna rain on your parade but the thing you're trying to tackle is an incredibly difficult problem to solve correctly

but if all you wanna do is learn more about ML and use it on a bot then go for it sure

[dusty wave]

No it more like

          if(ai1.isToxic(message)){
              yikes();
          }else{
            if(ai2.isToxic(message){
                ai1.learn(message)
                yikes()
            }
          }

this is the general gist

but far more complex

[woeful pike]

so if ai1 doesn't understand the nuances you're screwed

[modest maple]

that

[dusty wave]

then you have good old filtering

[modest maple]

Okay, so basically you're using 1 AI to train another AI via Q learning?

[dusty wave]

to back that up for 50% 50%

[woeful pike]

good old filtering has never worked

[dusty wave]

Nope but it does do its job when all else fails
and the AI is uncertain

[dusty wave]

in a nutshell

yes

[woeful pike]

also you can't really have that because you're relying on perspective to be right, which often gets things wrong because it's designed for long messages not short texts

and you don't have any way of knowing what message is a false positive and what isn't

[dusty wave]

Thats my my version is trained on like 128 million discord messages

[woeful pike]

your version doesn't run until perspective runs

[dusty wave]

flagged by other ais as toxic

[modest maple]

Does Discord know about that data scraping

[dusty wave]

i didnt scrap

[modest maple]

128 Million Discord messages should be about what? 50-60GB of data or so.

[woeful pike]

I mean it's a cool project but it won't ever become a reliable tool because the problem is so crazy difficult and I don't think you happen to have a phd in artificial intelligence

[dusty wave]

so it not really my problem https://www.kaggle.com/jef1056/discord-data

[dusty wave]

no plus its more of a side feature to my bot

[modest maple]

Put that into an AI and thats about some 30GB model

[dusty wave]

atcaully its 4gb

along with reddit , movielines wikipedia

new article

movie reviews

etc

[woeful pike]

the problem is unlike a side feature like a dice roll command, this feature runs quietly in the background, incorrectly flagging conversations or letting obvious cases slip by

[modest maple]

That doesnt sound right, if you've fed it some 23GB of data your model generally should be about the same size or maybe just a little smaller

because you're creating word vectors with NLP like that

Which realistically generally produces more data than the original text if done correctly

[dusty wave]

This can be solved by adding context allowing reporting of flase positives and flase negatives

[woeful pike]

if even a big company can't get it right by flagging conversations about LGBT topics incorrectly then like I can't imagine you could get this to work without either being useless or false flagging too many things

[modest maple]

also, you fundamentally shouldn't be using Q learning for this task

[dusty wave]

I am using tansformer so the nlp is pretrained and is like 128 gb but its not my problem

[woeful pike]

"adding context" is like the most difficult ML problem lol

[modest maple]

You need to download said transformer though

which regardless Is probably going to be far too slow to keep up with the rate of messages unless you have some insane hardware

[woeful pike]

also I feel like users need to opt into having their messages analyzed in order to improve the model and I can't imagine discord would let you do that

also how are you planning on adding context if you're using a pretrained model

[dusty wave]

No, you can host it on huggingface and use its api

[dusty wave]

No like the user is given the choice

to report

[dusty wave]

Its done in the training of the model

[modest maple]

You think people will willing give correct information to your AI when asked?

[woeful pike]

idk man this sounds like a cool project to learn more about ML but not something that could even come close to being accurate in the real world. If any random bot developer could've solved this problem it would already be a successful commercial product

[modest maple]

also Hugging face charge $10 per 1 Million characters

[dusty wave]

Hmm no like it will be sent to a channel and then I can decide if to train or not to train

[modest maple]

so that is... Alot of money if you plan on having hugging face host / run it

[dusty wave]

if you obey rate limits and use second AI

then you like make only 100 querys a day

to it

[modest maple]

okay, but err. That is probably breaking some GDPR or atleast discord tos

[woeful pike]

wait 100 queries a day? what

[modest maple]

[woeful pike]

[modest maple]

You do understand though that you cant have an ai train another ai to be better than itself for this case though right?

[dusty wave]

Hmm no like when user repot it
A message is sent that this message is being logged for inspection by a team member and if it passes it will be updated

[modest maple]

And if you're not using hugging face then you need to run the model somewhere

[dusty wave]

the big model needs to be on huggingface

[modest maple]

yes... But a smaller model is generally less accurate

[dusty wave]

the other can run inside heruko or repl.it

[modest maple]

no.

no it cannot

[dusty wave]

it can

[woeful pike]

I guess if the goal is to create a worse perspective api then you could maybe get there with enough training

[modest maple]

Accurate AI depends on 2 things:

• How accurate the training data is
• The amount of accurate training data there is.

[woeful pike]

but perspective itself is not good enough to be used for chat messages. So why would you even have that as a goal

[modest maple]

if you're making a smaller model then realistically it's going to be far worse than the big model

but even then even if the model is semi functional

you cannot seriously run it on heroku or repl.it

[dusty wave]

Well no

you need 3 ais for best one

memory->causal -> general

[modest maple]

maybe if you did like... 3 messages an hour

instead of potentially hundreds of messages second

[modest maple]

that sentence doesnt make sense

this isnt some sentient being. Its just NLP. NLP that traditionally requires an insane amount of correct and accurate data and alot of resources to be used for the task you're talking about

[woeful pike]

I mean the best way for you to find out is to try and realize how difficult the problem space actually is

[dusty wave]

the memory ai is based on 2 thing an learning ai and an aiml bot
Causal ai is about 2gb (and can be hosted on google app engine for free), this is good for normal user convo like how are you etc
general ai is massive like 4-8gb this is when the user ask something really wierd like my socks smell funny

[modest maple]

[woeful pike]

5 minutes into machine learning: "I can't understand why noone hasn't done this yet"
5 days into machine learning: "I understand why noone has done this yet"

[dusty wave]

Fun fact the NLP are modelled after the human brain
with attention layers etc

[woeful pike]

[dusty wave]

Yup it took me one year to make an ai get the results i wanted

[dusty wave]

an d i had made this

monstorsity

well a good basic version

[woeful pike]

sounds like you're a pro dude, go and create that bot

[dusty wave]

now i am fine tuning

[woeful pike]

what's holding you back

[dusty wave]

to make that I did have to stop my current training of AI

[woeful pike]

toxicity detection as a service + heroku/replit in the same concept is just

[modest maple]

what could go wrong

[dusty wave]

I will wait for verification wait for a few days to see demand etc , then add ig

[modest maple]

I mean my only warning is, I think you underestimate this

[woeful pike]

yeah like significantly

[modest maple]

Im pretty sure just the word tokenization is enough to put significant strain on the system at larger amounts of servers

even if you use fast wordpiece

[woeful pike]

there are certain fields of ML where you could piggyback off existing tech like face detection and recognition etc but the toxicity recognition thing is still a field that's developing and unless you're making fairly groundbreaking research I can't see this becoming usable outside of test cases because of how much it impacts conversation when it's wrong

considering how wrong or inaccurate the existing technology that runs on proper infrastructure and not on repl.it is

[modest maple]

Its hard enough making a naive search engine be relevant let alone trying to detect toxicity in languages

[dusty wave]

Well I do have a small beta version of the toxicity recognition running in like 15servers to see load etc

Lol

[woeful pike]

it's a cool project but yeah I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you

[dusty wave]

I aint

[modest maple]

It sorta sounds like you are

but 👐

[dusty wave]

Eh i am split on adding it to the main bot

Performance is amazing

But I am afraid of demand after verification

[modest maple]

mmm General rule of thumb, If your performance is amazing your model is probably not very accurate

[modest maple]

Even on the image detection side it's still pain

[woeful pike]

I'm living with the pains of this as we speak

[modest maple]

What are you doing with it

[earnest mural]

https://i.imgur.com/rjEVTgl.png I'm trying to make a command where you can search for a guild through its guild name. but im getting a return of member not found when i use "message"

[bright hornet]

Can someone give me some tips with this error?

[earnest mural]

and yes its in discord.py cause stupid school

[modest maple]

Why... Why do you store each user data by their name / message content??????

you know how insecure that is????

[earnest mural]

[woeful pike]

https://kiyomi.io/image/q9RlyVWihljc7yfD

[earnest mural]

ik but its just for my school project thingy then i can work on making it more secure later you know

[modest maple]

nice

[dusty wave]

It better than all other alternatives but i messes every one in 50 or so.

Which is way better than almost all other ones which miss almost all

[earnest mural]

as well as i don't really know what else i could do

[woeful pike]

sounds like incredible cherrypicking

[dusty wave]

Make it secure first then.

Trust me you may forget until its too late

[modest maple]

As someone who has worked with Google to build AI's, I doubt yours is better than "All other alternatives"

[dry imp]

also why dont you use fstring

[dusty wave]

Security first

[earnest mural]

cause my brain is stupid

[dusty wave]

Its ain't but on discord yes. Like look at mee6 yagpdb auto mod

Like if it manages to some load of the admin

Its worth it

Its not meant to be perfect

[delicate zephyr]

depends on how many false positives

[modest maple]

they dont use AI they use defaulto is word in x

[earnest mural]

no idea how though

[dusty wave]

That the whole point

[delicate zephyr]

using AI is risky tho

[modest maple]

I mean does your AI respond correctly to CJK languages?

[dry imp]

ok so what are you trying to do?

[bright hornet]

I keep getting ignored lmao

[dusty wave]

Word in x is even more false positive.

Plus you can be super toxic with using any of the bad words this can detect kt

[delicate zephyr]

roles.members is undefined

[earnest mural]

im making a command that searches for the desired guild name that a user wants to search for but it returns me with https://i.imgur.com/HyIgcNC.png when i want to search for the hmm guild

[dusty wave]

It doesn't do anything it stays netrap

[dusty wave]

You need user id

[dry imp]

so hmm is the member or the guild name?

[earnest mural]

guild name

[bright hornet]

Does that mean is the bot cant find the role or what?

[earnest mural]

https://i.imgur.com/yxHU61U.png

[delicate zephyr]

basically

[earnest mural]

since im formatting it with json files like that

[bright hornet]

But im actually using an args, then im pinging the role :/

[dusty wave]

Are you pining the user when using the command

[quartz kindle]

you should really be using at least a database like sqlite

json will just give you problems in the future

[dry imp]

i think it is just for school project

[quartz kindle]

are those "guilds" actually discord guilds? or something external like an mmorpg?

[earnest phoenix]

dont use json as a database

[dry imp]

okay @earnest mural so you want to search the name through the same guild command, correct?

[woeful pike]

unless it doesn't understand nuance in conversations in which case it creates even more work for the admin

also different communities have different definitions of what toxicity is

some might say it's swearing, some might say our city our ciiiittyy

[dusty wave]

You can modify the ai using different tags

And thresholds

[woeful pike]

but it's not a linear scale

[earnest mural]

yes

[woeful pike]

I'm curious if this is even possible to automate even theoretically

cuz there are just so many factors. Language, culture, strictness, subtext, memes

[earnest mural]

mmorpg

[dry imp]

the error pops cuz u use hmm not in the right field

[woeful pike]

how the hell does anyone automate that even with the most brilliant researchers out there

[earnest mural]

[dry imp]

it is assigned to member instead of message

[dusty wave]

Its impossible

[dry imp]

thats why the error tells you "Member 'hmm' not found"

[earnest mural]

ohhh

[woeful pike]

so yeah I guess the goal is minimizing false positives and not maximizing detection

how companies like https://twohat.com/ do it is beyond me

[earnest mural]

cause im thinking about either pinging a user or searching the guild's name would be able to find the information of the guild being searched

[dusty wave]

Exactly

[dusty wave]

They must have massive models

[quartz kindle]

they probably train them with decades old books, texts, movies and conversations

because everything is offensive today

[woeful pike]

[quartz kindle]

you have to go back in time to actually listen to proper gentleman-like speech

lmao

[dusty wave]

....

[woeful pike]

there's just too much context involved

humans do a terrible job already for something that we should be better at than machines with what we know about ML today

and yet

[dusty wave]

True

[quartz kindle]

thats the beauty of language, its basically turing complete, you can say anything and make it mean anything with words, intonation, context, etc

[dusty wave]

It did never work

The ai did be confused.
The ai needs to have the latest data

[quartz kindle]

buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo

[modest maple]

So your AI is useless to anyone who doesnt use whitepsace separated languages?

[dusty wave]

Well yes but if I wanted to support other one I will need to make a sperate ai

Its better for many reasons like less soze

Size etc

[modest maple]

but that does mean I can just be toxic in some other language and the bot wont notice

also you shouldn't really need to have an entirely separate model for each language, you need a good set of data and a good tokenizer sure. But generally.

[dusty wave]

Then the size of the ai grows exponentially to compensate

[modest maple]

yes

but you get that regardless

the additional downside you get from splitting them up is then that they cant understand compound sentences which contain diffrent languages

and that defeats the purpose of your entire ai

because ultimately you're trying to detect sentiment

[woeful pike]

you are banned for toxicity

[vagrant prairie]

is there any example code for like voting in d.js v13

[quartz kindle]

noooooo

[marble juniper]

you said everything is offensive? how dare you that is offensive \s

[sudden geyser]

depends on what you want it to do

If you want to receive votes, you're in luck, because that doesn't involve Discord.js.

See https://docs.top.gg/libraries/javascript/#webhooks for more info

[vagrant prairie]

const express = require('express')
const Topgg = require('@top-gg/sdk')
const fetch = require('node-fetch')
const app = express()
const webhook = new Topgg.Webhook('me password')
app.post('/vote', webhook.listener(vote => { 
    console.log("User with id - " + vote.user + " Voted!")
    let value = JSON.stringify({
        embeds: [
            {
                title: "Voted!",
                description: `<@${vote.user}> (${vote.user}) Just Voted For \`Disminer!\`!!`,
                color: "8388736"
            }
        ]
    })
    fetch("https://discord.com/api/webhooks/me webhook", { 
        method: 'POST',
        headers: {
            'Content-type': 'application/json',
        },
        body: value
    }).catch(e => console.log('Error occured while posting webhook : ' + e))
}))
app.listen(3000)``` is what im using rn, it was a template and isnt working

[spark flint]

are you sure that webhook sould be correct

formatting doesn't seem right

[quartz kindle]

does console.log("User with id - " + vote.user + " Voted!") log anything?

[vagrant prairie]

the link is correct, im using the auth path in the first one

[vagrant prairie]

nope

[quartz kindle]

did you configure the webhook url in your bot's top.gg settings?

[vagrant prairie]

yeah

i have the ip

does it need to have port as well?

[quartz kindle]

yes

[vagrant prairie]

oh

[quartz kindle]

where is your bot hosted?

[vagrant prairie]

then thats probably the problem, one sec

[vagrant prairie]

witherhosting

so url would be http://myip:3000

[spark flint]

http://myip:port

OOHHH i kno

[quartz kindle]

yes, assuming your hosting doesnt do any kind of routing or proxying

[spark flint]

const express = require('express')
const Topgg = require('@top-gg/sdk')
const fetch = require('node-fetch')
const app = express()
const webhook = new Topgg.Webhook('me password')
app.post('/vote', webhook.listener(vote => { 
    console.log("User with id - " + vote.user + " Voted!")
    let value = JSON.stringify({
        embeds: [
            {
                title: "Voted!",
                description: `<@${vote.user}> (${vote.user}) Just Voted For \`Disminer!\`!!`,
                color: "8388736"
            }
        ]
    })
    fetch("https://discord.com/api/webhooks/me webhook", { 
        method: 'POST',
        headers: {
            'Content-type': 'application/json',
        },
        body: value
    }).catch(e => console.log('Error occured while posting webhook : ' + e))
}))
app.listen(pterodactyl assigned port)```

then http://myip:pterodactyl assigned port

[vagrant prairie]

ou yeah

[spark flint]

i had same issue yesterday

[vagrant prairie]

does the port need to go in the url as well?

probably ima test now ty

[spark flint]

yeah

[vagrant prairie]

still nothing

could it be a code problem posivly?

ima try the official example

[spark flint]

what is your ptero ip and port?

gonna see if its publicly accessible

feel free to delete after

[vagrant prairie]

wait let me try smth

[spark flint]

2 secs

leme send a test from my bot

[vagrant prairie]

kk

[spark flint]

did that do anything

[vagrant prairie]

nope

[spark flint]

whats the webhook auth?

needs to match

set to "password"

?

[vagrant prairie]

let me try smth first

[spark flint]

alr

[nocturne grove]

Repost. Please ping 🙂

[vagrant prairie]

the webhook discord url supposed to go here right

[spark flint]

no

http://38.75.137.229:19590/vote is

[vagrant prairie]

oh

i didnt have /vote before

[spark flint]

ah

[vagrant prairie]

works now ty!

[spark flint]

good to hear

[valid sierra]

Hey, i want to make a music bot but like i don't want to use youtube cause of the issues and etc
i am not sure if you can stream spotify songs via discord bots or not cause ig i read somewhere that you can't
so i was wondering how do the bots like hydra and etc play songs? like is there a platform that allows us to stream songs without downloading them and etc?

[pale vessel]

there are other platforms like Soundcloud and Bandcamp that you could use as substitutes for YT

playing from Spotify isn't possible and even if you could get pass the DRM protection it's illegal

[quartz kindle]

most bots use lavalink/lavaplayer

which comes with support for several streaming services built in

[valid sierra]

Is there like a library I can use in python to stream them? I don't want to download the songs

[valid sierra]

Oh yeah I read about it somewhere before but I wasn't sure if it was true or not

[pale vessel]

install lavalink and use a wrapper

[valid sierra]

Oh sorry for my lack of knowledge but I can use lavalink in python?

[pale vessel]

the lavalink server is in java, you have to install it on your VPS/dedi

[valid sierra]

I used to see it connected a lot with JavaScript tbh

[pale vessel]

there are wrapper in many languages

[valid sierra]

Oh okay, I will look it up

Thanks a lot

[pale vessel]

https://github.com/PythonistaGuild/Wavelink is one of them

[valid sierra]

Wow thanks lol

Do you use it? So like if I struggled with it may I ask for your advice again?

I am outside rn so I can't really test it

[pale vessel]

I don't use it, I only used Shoukaku and that was in node.js

[valid sierra]

Ooh okay tho thanks for responding to me

[bright thorn]

What about erla

[pale vessel]

erela.js?

isn't that in node.js

[bright thorn]

Yeah

Lol

Then it is in?

[valid sierra]

I do use python lol

[rigid maple]

function outputs before logging console.log() inside the function 😃

what can I do

[wheat mesa]

you haven't provided any code, it's difficult to say what you're doing wrong

[rigid maple]

this function

this use

  console.log(await client.sendFiletoWeb())

this output

function output is before log console.log() when the function is running

[wheat mesa]

because you have a setTimeout that schedules it to be run after 5 seconds

[rigid maple]

unfortunately there is no other way to find out if the result is out

or i don't know

[wheat mesa]

setTimeout isn't blocking

you can return within the setTimeout if you wish, or you can use a sleep function that uses promises

[quartz kindle]

why do you even need the timeout there?

[rigid maple]

analyzes and outputs the file after uploading it to the site