development

[round cove]

console.log(`${someVariable}`);```

[craggy pine]

this is just copy pasta code I had going from v12 -> v13 so Ik for a fact it worked b4

so it's something with v13 and fields

[round cove]

big version change

This why people need to use TS

[boreal iron]

Oh the options of your send() method are fine

[craggy pine]

mhm

[boreal iron]

But I don’t know about the helper methods like addField etc

[craggy pine]

I may understand why thinking about it

  try {
    if(args.length === 0) {
      let errorReply = await message.reply("You need to specify an anime!")
      setTimeout(() => errorReply.delete(), 10000)
    } else {
      let loadingMessage = await message.reply("Loading...")
      let animeSearch = args.join(" ")
      await mal.search('anime', animeSearch)
      .then(info => anime.animeResult = info.results)
      .catch(err => console.log(err));
      loadingMessage.delete()
    }

[boreal iron]

Why do you even use them?

[craggy pine]

I do this b4 the embed right

[boreal iron]

You’re close to creating the embed object yourself anyways?

[craggy pine]

But the embed is after the else{} so I think it tries to create it before the api can fully do the push to my array

[boreal iron]

embed.fields =
[
{ name: …, value: …. },
…
]

Is your field structure already

It’s just an array storing the field objects in it

[craggy pine]

[boreal iron]

Not necessarily, just to say

[craggy pine]

I could do it your not wrong. Main focus is just some of my main stuff working for now from the transition

[boreal iron]

Yeah unfortunately can’t figure that huge chunk of code out on mobile

[craggy pine]

haha no worries

Ya litterally doing String() made it work.

[round cove]

I mean the error did say non string

Xd

[craggy pine]

But why

They are strings

[round cove]

technically it's a number, boolean is a bool

etc etc

[craggy pine]

well I suppose

[round cove]

JSON is very picky.

[craggy pine]

Still lame but it worked regardless.

Kinda dumb that Title, Description, and image works no issues without String()

[earnest phoenix]

yes boolean is bool

[round cove]

This floor

[boreal iron]

Oh yeah I forgot about that
I had that issue too, the type is strict, means it must be a string

I remember…

v13 does enforce that

[round cove]

good

[boreal iron]

As it doesn’t convert your value anymore to something it should be

[round cove]

implicit conversion can be bad at times.

Especially for those who don't understand it or when it happens.

[boreal iron]

Yeah all the work for the lib dev to cover each type an user can pass if you don’t enforce a strict type

I mean a key lock which is supposed to be opened by a key also doesn’t expect to be opened by a candle

fuck that quote is awesome, gonna write that down somewhere

[onyx socket]

What is the performance impact of using custom prefixes where prefix data is stored on a mongodb database.

[boreal iron]

Well it literally has no no effect as you need to get your prefixes from the database and cache them when initiating your client.

One database request each time somebody executes a command to check if that prefix actually exists would be nonsense and quickly result in total chaos.

You gotta create a map/object with your guild IDs and their prefixes which you check if a command is executed or simply attach the prefix to the already cached guild object

But before thinking about custom prefix, think about to switch to slash commands (interactions).

Without mentioning the bot you won’t have access to the message content anymore, soon

(if you don’t have the privileged intent)

[feral aspen]

What would happen to my bot if I didn't apply for the message content privilege intent but I switched everything to slash commands?

[boreal iron]

Nothing?
Why would you still need the message content anymore after switching to interactions?

If you don’t switch and get the intent your common commands will not work anymore

As the message content received in event will always be null

Except somebody is mentioning your bot

[feral aspen]

What are some good example uses of message content?

My m8 used the stupidest reason and got accepted, so..

What are some good uses to it, I know anti-link system is good (something I'm developing)

[boreal iron]

That depends on what your bot does

Discord isn’t dump, they know anything about what your bot sends to the API

Getting the message content by lying will most likely end up in a report and you or your app being banned from the dev portal

So… if you don’t need it because the transition to slash commands is possible, then move to slash commands

or use your bots mention as prefix

(actually it doesn’t matter when you mention it in the content, could also be at the end)

[feral aspen]

Does this need the message content?

I think it's too early, right now. I have 2 more months to develop the commands I need.

[boreal iron]

No, mentioning your bot will send the message content with the event

As well as attachments, reactions and whatever it was

You can still listen to the message_create event but the content, attachments, reactions etc. will be null without the intent or somebody mentioning your bot in the message

[onyx socket]

Ok, so i am new to all this, but i just wanna know how my bot will be effected.. Currently my bot is based on commands and there is only one feature that actually requires to read the content from message object. So what will not work, if i choose to not apply for message intents, the later feature or what exactly?

[feral aspen]

Oh, this will be pain, then. I'll need the event, then.

[boreal iron]

I mean just read what I wrote above.
That fits for you, too.

[boreal iron]

You probably mean the intent, not event
If so you gotta provide a solid reason why

[feral aspen]

Yeah, putting a reason, I can write a newspaper, no problem with that.

[boreal iron]

That’s up to you

I heard people being denied will not get another chance if discord thinks your reason isn’t valid

[feral aspen]

I mean, not much of my commands need it, but my future features, does.

When does the message content apply, exactly.

[boreal iron]

April 30th I think

[feral aspen]

Broo.. I have a lot of time. 😂

[boreal iron]

Discord isn’t really fast when it comes to checking for privileged intents

Anyways it’s up to…

If you really need the message content, then apply for it if not, you will see what Discord will respond

[eternal cobalt]

hm

[flint phoenix]

Is there any was to make a bot slash commands not work in certain channels ?

[boreal iron]

Yes for example by configuring the channel permissions to remove the users ability to execute application commands.

Or by handling this inside your slash command handler, sending an user an ephemeral message for example, telling him he can’t use that command in that channel.

[cinder patio]

Just React + Chakra.UI give me a 300kb bundle size 😭

[modest maple]

One of mine is 158.37 kB in total

bulk moment

[frosty valve]

What’s a good image generation tool for node.js? So I can like change text and stuff like that depending on data

[lyric mountain]

canvas?

[winter pasture]

You tried Preact? Been working pretty well for me where I need to care about loadtime

[frosty valve]

Thanks

[lyric mountain]

as a note, replit has some issues with it

[winter pasture]

Not sure how well Chakra.uI gets tree-shaken and be server side rendered tho 🤷‍♂️

[frosty valve]

Isn’t preact like 12kB iirc?

[lyric mountain]

but canvas is pretty much the go-to

[winter pasture]

3kB last time I used it

https://preactjs.com/

[frosty valve]

Oh they decreased it even more

[winter pasture]

Kinda surprised how easy the switch was. API is pretty much 1:1 (https://preactjs.com/guide/v10/differences-to-react)

[cinder patio]

Ooh yeah I could switch to preact

[frosty valve]

I just pretty much care about packaging ngl. I never like setting up a bundle. So as long as I don’t need to do that for long times. Will I always try to optimize loading times

[cinder patio]

Using ChakraUI on the server side adds around 140KB

[winter pasture]

Humm... not great

[cinder patio]

And all I'm using is ChakraProvider

[winter pasture]

But to be fair, Chakra is pretty slick. So benefit VS cost

If I remember correctly ChakraProvider gives a massive spike in size, but components you add in code won't make it much larger after the original import cost

[cinder patio]

Tbh I am not really sure If I even need ChakraProvider on the client-side, since I'm using SSR 🤔

[dusk narwhal]

Hi!

[cinder patio]

or well, at least the ChakraProvider

[woeful pike]

they still force ship the large version of framer motion which really adds a lot

[civic scroll]

me meanwhile bing chilling with 516kb

💀

[hexed garnet]

Unless i want to port forward my ip i have to get a vps right?

[earnest phoenix]

nevermind, it works fine..
it crashed because voice channel doesn't have .send

[earnest phoenix]

because channel is undefined

Read the documentation.

i just posted similar issue

example

its pretty bad but it works ;d just a quick fix

thats what this does

oh also, add let done = false; above the loop

[hexed garnet]

For a bot.

To have a web hook

I think i do

[earnest phoenix]

Is there a way to bump server

From channel?

I have the bot I swear I read everywhere lol

Okay thank you

[hexed garnet]

Have you read the docs?

Websockets are for ping. If i want to recive a post command i need a webhook

[earnest phoenix]

yes

not sure if its allowed tho, should be

[spark flint]

What way?

[earnest phoenix]

post request?

[spark flint]

You mean you making a post request to the vote buttons url?

[earnest phoenix]

are we talking about server bump?

[spark flint]

Yeah

[earnest phoenix]

thi

[spark flint]

You can’t vote from discord

Only from the site

[earnest phoenix]

oh vote

[spark flint]

Webhooks are allowed

[earnest phoenix]

doesnt mean you cant do it tho

[spark flint]

Well you shouldn’t

[earnest phoenix]

of course

i said it "shouldnt be allowed"

[spark flint]

Yeah

@woeful pike are there checks to ensure votes come from the site and not just from someone sending a post request?

[woeful pike]

try sending a post request

[earnest phoenix]

im pretty sure you can vote with some work put in

[woeful pike]

yeah you can always get around restrictions with work put in

it's impossible to prevent "a post request"

but you can make it as painful as possible to figure out how which is where we're headed

[woeful pike]

if you can figure out how to send a valid vote with a post request I'll pay you $5

[spark flint]

[earnest phoenix]

its get, i see

you really complicated this xd

[split hazel]

pretty sure they use a "secret token" for that

signatures would be better

[woeful pike]

what do you mean by signatures?

[split hazel]

I see some high profile websites using it as well as some payment gateways

so basically the website holds a secret private key

and creates a signature from the request content and timestamp

the client can then verify the request content was actually sent by the website and not someone else via their public key by comparing the signature and body content

actually discord has that too for http interactions

[wheat mesa]

I believe most APIs do that so you can verify it from your end

[earnest phoenix]

If i make it, i expect 2 million worth of NFTs

[earnest phoenix]

Non Fungible screenshoT

[earnest phoenix]

You think it’s funny to take screenshots of people’s NFTs, huh? You must be a very immature person to steal someone’s property that they PAID for. Yeah, I said it. You’re the kind of person who thinks that property theft (a seriously illegal offence) is a joke. I don’t even know why you took that screenshot, because you didn’t pay 1000 dollars for it. I did. The blockchain doesn’t lie. Even if you try to save it, it’s my property. You’re just angry that you couldn’t afford this priceless masterpiece. Even if you could, your fingers couldn’t even click fast enough to get one of the 10000 NFTs sold. You’re just mad you don’t own what I own.

[cinder patio]

I'm pretty sure this is the vote endpoint, the payload the site sends to it is in binary so you can't make much of it and also it could be encoded in some way. CBA to investigate further. Even if you managed to send a vote programmatically, you'd still most likely need some authorization token that is stored in (most likely) a cookie, which prevents you from voting on behalf of other people, unless you make them give it to you, which would be a security concern.

Everything I said above is a speculation and may be untrue.

[earnest phoenix]

👎 nfts suck
👍 the stuff that people usually buy as nfts sucks

[earnest phoenix]

emulates an entire browser

literally

unless they use hcaptcha

puppeteer enters the chat

or recaptcha cuz p r i v a c y

[woeful pike]

that's the idea

[earnest phoenix]

as always, h captcha broken

[woeful pike]

"bruh just run puppeteer" is a huge bump for how much resources you need to abuse over requests

[earnest phoenix]

or send specially crafted http requests with the csrf token

[woeful pike]

that's not enough anymore

[earnest phoenix]

but it still does the job

[woeful pike]

sure

[earnest phoenix]

paid 5$ for 5 votes and one melted cpu :)

[woeful pike]

if you run a business selling fake votes to users, going from 100k requests to 100k browser windows is a gigantic hurdle

[earnest phoenix]

yet we all know how cringe videos on every facebook owned website get 100k likes

goal was to just bypass manual vote right?

ayo dr. fone just installed
time to hack my own phone

[cinder patio]

Best you could do with puppeteer is set up an auto voter which votes for your bot every 12 hours so you don't have to do it yourself

[woeful pike]

bare puppeteer doesn't work anymore either

[woeful pike]

well, kind of. If you have something add me as friend and show me

[earnest phoenix]

why dm when you can send here :)

[woeful pike]

hah

[earnest phoenix]

yes, give everyone the exploit

[woeful pike]

well there are ways where you can still do it but it's intentional

[earnest phoenix]

what do i get if i successfully find a vulnerability in top.geegee and report it like a responsible human being

[woeful pike]

paid

[earnest phoenix]

paid what

[cinder patio]

why send here when you can keep it to yourself and make a ton of cash

[earnest phoenix]

free nfts?

[woeful pike]

depending on the severity, an actual bug bounty

as long as you're disclosing responsibly

there are people who do this for a living

[earnest phoenix]

who would do such a thing

[woeful pike]

if you're good at web security it's a good way to make extra cash actually

[earnest phoenix]

so like:
#support
wendy we have a problem wendy we have a problem wendy we have a problem
@woeful pike @woeful pike @woeful pike @woeful pike @woeful pike @woeful pike
i haxed topgg

[woeful pike]

epic

[earnest phoenix]

people who hack stuff and don't use it for bad shit are called white-hat hackers

their whatsapp group chat nickname is free fire skin tool user ping for hacks

[earnest phoenix]

it was a joke but ok

the only person in this universe who didn't call me a hacker was my 8 year old cousin who knows the difference between a programmer and a hacker

doesn't jwt exist for it? to only sign/register request from a valid client

[quartz kindle]

some guy got paid 10k for fixing a bug in gta online

[earnest phoenix]

some guy didn't get paid for fixing a bug in apple's webkit

every 60 seconds in africa, i hate apple

chrome ended up paying the dude even tho webkit has nothing to do with chrome except ios

im a dev too nice

i'm disappointed in you

@rustic nova unmentionable username

ty

gm pls

how u doin

[quartz kindle]

Lol

[earnest phoenix]

accept google as your saviour and win a FREE PS4

[quartz kindle]

how much did the guy who discovered log4shell get paid?

[earnest phoenix]

idk
ask alibaba cloud team

[quartz kindle]

probably nothing

because communist china?

idk

he got paid in "you should be happy you get to contribute towards our nation"

[boreal iron]

Damn… my expectations got blown up
6 months ago I decided to buy 96GB of RAM as 12 8GB modules
Now 96GB are used to >90% and I retard can fucking invest into 16GB modules and need to sell the 8GB ones
Why didn’t I just buy 6 16GB ones lmao

[winter pasture]

I mean, at this point why report issues to Apple/Android when these 3rd party "security: firms pay a LOT more

[boreal iron]

Oh no… my mobile screen

[quartz kindle]

what would be an FCP zero click?

[winter pasture]

full chain with persistence

[earnest phoenix]

is zerodium legal

[quartz kindle]

which means?

in practical terms

[winter pasture]

I never recommend selling it to these firms. Kinda a scummy immoral thing to do

Legality, no idea. Ask your lawyer

[earnest phoenix]

since when do you not understand technical jargon

[quartz kindle]

because anything that is worth 10k+ is outside of my field of expertise

:^)

[boreal iron]

[winter pasture]

with persistence it stays around after reboot etc
Full chain I am a bit unsure exactly. I think it means the entire chain including cold boots are bypassable

So basically a hacker can run any code, and access the entire phone

[quartz kindle]

and zero click meaning without any user interaction?

[winter pasture]

Yep

So an SMS

Or App notification etc

[quartz kindle]

that infects you without you opening it

[winter pasture]

As soon as you get it, nothing you can do

Ye

[quartz kindle]

are those things even possible these days?

[winter pasture]

Was one from Whatsapp not long ago

[earnest phoenix]

arabic letters in ios sms notifications

[winter pasture]

Hacked some journalists i think

[quartz kindle]

its always journalists that get hacked

[earnest phoenix]

ofc even a journalist uses the biggest chat app for sharing misinformation

"mobile games cause coronavirus" i think you know why i am trying to recover data from my broken phone

[quartz kindle]

what if you discover a government-implanted backdoor and report it? do you still get paid in money? or do you get paid in bullets to the back of your head?

[earnest phoenix]

aaron swartz

[boreal iron]

Pretty sure that depends from country to country

[earnest phoenix]

well he didn't actually discover a vulnerability but still got steamrollered by the fbi

[boreal iron]

But the result is always the same

[earnest phoenix]

india once asked blackberry to add a backdoor

[quartz kindle]

pretty sure all phones in china have backdoors

[boreal iron]

Well the US don’t asks but forces any company in their country to do so

[earnest phoenix]

this is why you should shift to taiwan, the best country ever

[quartz kindle]

you mean east taiwan?

:^)

[earnest phoenix]

whatsapp can't do that but all other facebook apps can

even discord reads messages of public servers amirite?

[boreal iron]

A few years ago we would have said Hong Kong

But that story has ended

[earnest phoenix]

shift to north korea

[boreal iron]

lmao

[earnest phoenix]

no government bullshit it's just yo boi kim jong un

[boreal iron]

Every big app/company does as Snowden has explained

[earnest phoenix]

last photo of the person who reported the webkit bug and got paid nothing

[boreal iron]

Programs like PRISM search any keys through any app which data they collected

[boreal iron]

One moment after a very unlucky wind has blown him down

While falling down he somehow ran into a bullet

[earnest phoenix]

rest in peace, obama

[winter pasture]

Ah found them, https://www.nsogroup.com/

[boreal iron]

Yeah his unlucky winds are called drones

[winter pasture]

They sell phone spyware to goverments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7RcwWr_fhs Apple is suing them etc

[boreal iron]

I mean Israel is pretty known to sell such software to any country which wants to spy their citizens

[winter pasture]

Lol true

[boreal iron]

And they are pretty good in what they doing

[quartz kindle]

most ISPs have backdoor access to the routers they give you

[boreal iron]

Well or simply to the data they rout for you

[earnest phoenix]

vpns too

[boreal iron]

Knowing the source and target you packages go is already a big thing

[quartz kindle]

they can remotely change your router's configuration

[earnest phoenix]

someone found a way to do fingerprinting in css

[boreal iron]

I’m using a free router but the whole industry is made to spy customers and hide it… so who knows

[earnest phoenix]

@media (has-big-screen) {
  background: url("https://fingerprinter.china/has-big-screen");
}

[winter pasture]

my ISP kept calling me asking me to reset my router a few yeas ago. Why? Because I was blocking their public backdoor endpoint to my router...

[quartz kindle]

lmao

[winter pasture]

They concluded my router was broken...

[boreal iron]

Yeah i disabled the ports, too but knows if there’s not just another backdoor

[winter pasture]

They sent me a new one tho, so had 2 xD

[quartz kindle]

hahahah

[winter pasture]

One for guest network, one without their secret endpoint

[winter pasture]

To be fair, that is super limited 😛

[boreal iron]

The thing is the majority of people have no clue about all this and being watched permanently
That’s how our world is in 2022

[winter pasture]

Would not think there is enough of different CSS selectors to be able to get a reliable ID

[winter pasture]

Yeah, kinda given up atm

Stuff I want to keep private I don't say or do online 🤷‍♂️

[boreal iron]

Now since the Thread standard for IoT devices is on its ways to connect Anything to anything things will even get worse

[quartz kindle]

we all go through phases like being super worried about privacy and using a bunch of vpns and privacy tools, but after that phase is over we dont give a fuck anymore and let them spy on us anyway

[boreal iron]

That’s how it is, yeah as the latest generation grows up don’t bother with these things anymore

[winter pasture]

I mean, I work for a fraud protection platform. I know what data is collected. It is a lot

But it is to prevent fraud, deleted when it is no longer of use and never sold. But the same tech can be used to track people

[quartz kindle]

and at any point, either for money or due to being asked by the fbi, these companies can start selling that data and nobody will ever know

[winter pasture]

Yeah, hard to do something about

To give credit where credit is due, browsers have gotten a lot better at preventing basic fingerprinting

[feral aspen]

I have a directory.. which is https://www.<myURL>.com/socials/discord, and in the discord directory, I want to have an .htacess file that leads to a URL.
Anyone knows what's the code as everything I search, can't seem to find an answer.

[winter pasture]

Like blocking third party cookies, CORS, adblockers, PiHoles, randomising reported viewport etc

[spark flint]

like a redirect?

[boreal iron]

Or your country creates laws for the companies to store the data for a specific amount of time

[winter pasture]

You want to have a HTTP redirect?

[quartz kindle]

what webserver are you using? .htaccess only works for specific webservers

[spark flint]

Redirect 301 / https://discord.gg/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[feral aspen]

Supposedly, yes. Someone enteers the URL above, and it leads him to discord.com, let's say.

[feral aspen]

Plesk.

[quartz kindle]

then just make a route inside plesk?

[feral aspen]

Hosting provider is shit in helping.

[spark flint]

then change

[boreal iron]

If you're running the webserver yourself, then create a virtual host OR alias redirecting the source to the target

[spark flint]

the company i use always responds within 10-15 mins

[boreal iron]

Once you rent a product companies usually expect that you know what you do...

[feral aspen]

Do you think using .htaccess is beneficial?

[boreal iron]

It doesn't actually matter, you can also direct people by using it

[feral aspen]

.. and input this code?

[spark flint]

yeah

[feral aspen]

Let me try.

[boreal iron]

That requires your webserver's host configuration to allow overwrites (htaccess files) for this ressource/route

[feral aspen]

What do you mean?

[feral aspen]

I tried this before but it always leads to something like suppose i used google.com as the url, it would go google.com/discord.

[boreal iron]

wish me luck gonna shutdown the whole server instance o.O

Oh fuck I forgot that kills my internet lol

[winter pasture]

[feral aspen]

Kind-of didn't work for me. :/

[winter pasture]

What ya mean by kind-of?

[boreal iron]

What’s the result?

[feral aspen]

^^^^

[boreal iron]

you entered the full url with its protocol?

[feral aspen]

https://www.<myURL>.com/socials/discord with this in the .htaccess file in the discord directory: Redirect 301 / https://google.com leads me to google.com/discord.

[boreal iron]

Wut

[feral aspen]

I LOST MY BRAIN WITH THIS.

[winter pasture]

Try RedirectMatch maybe?

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/30165874/htaccess-redirect-without-the-path

[boreal iron]

What’s actually your webserver software?

Apache or NGINX?

[feral aspen]

How do I check?

[boreal iron]

Dunno not familiar with plesk tho

[feral aspen]

What's the difference?

Between up and down?

[winter pasture]

Last one also removed query params. ?search=xyz etc

[feral aspen]

Oh, I see.

[boreal iron]

One requires a mod, the first doesn’t

[winter pasture]

^

[boreal iron]

Aka extension

[winter pasture]

Did someone have a question around event listeners?

Seems like it got deleted 🤷‍♂️

[feral aspen]

Why in the world does it say Make sure to test this in a new browser.

It doesn't update on chrome, and it works on edge. ;-;

[winter pasture]

Cache?

301 = Moved Permanently

[boreal iron]

I saw that one, too
Most likely just created multiple listeners inside the listeners

[winter pasture]

And redirect is cached by the browser

[feral aspen]

Basically means what, exactly?

[boreal iron]

Oh good point, that’s also possible

[winter pasture]

301 means the file moved permanently

No file will also never be there in the future

So the browser caches the redirect

[boreal iron]

Try a different browser and clear your cache after changing that

[feral aspen]

I remember I didn't clear it once and it resetted like 15 minutes later or something. (After deleting the .htaccess file or something)

[boreal iron]

Might be a good idea to use 302 for…

Yeah don’t need to go on

lol

[earnest phoenix]

clear cache,everyone should know it .We are in top.gg ,thats routine

[boreal iron]

True

[earnest phoenix]

top.gg could just add one line,which automatically sweeps cache

[feral aspen]

Can it update without clearing cache?

[boreal iron]

That doesn’t mean the browser follows this

[winter pasture]

I mean, browsers does clear cache every so often. You may be better of clearing cache now instead of waiing

[earnest phoenix]

yeah thats problem

[winter pasture]

-cacheclear

[gilded plank]

In order to clear your cache for the site, press CTRL+F5.
If this does not work, try one of these resources below:

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[feral aspen]

Lastly, does .htaccess work locally?

[winter pasture]

If you are running a webserver locally, yes

[feral aspen]

👍

[winter pasture]

Well a webserver that supports .htaccess 😛

[feral aspen]

Yup.

[boreal iron]

#development message

Alright ladies… disconnecting the RAID controller from the power source

Let’s hope the backup battery does its job

[boreal iron]

Let’s pray…

failed to start zfs vmfs pool

please god... no!!!

PROXMOX WHY ARE YOU LIKE THIS

[blissful falcon]

Does anyone know what error this is and how to fix it?

 ! [remote rejected] master -> master (pre-receive hook declined)
error: failed to push some refs to 'https://git.heroku.com/mcoydebot123.git'```

[split hazel]

[boreal iron]

things are totally escalating

[split hazel]

what we all wish for in languages but doesn't exist
if (str == "test" || "foo")

[sudden geyser]

yuck

order of precedence sucks enough

[quartz kindle]

String.prototype.equalsOneOf = function(...args) {
  return args.includes(this);
}

str.equalsOneOf("test", "foo")

[split hazel]

watch me
["test", "foo"].includes(str)

[proven lantern]

const map = {"foo":true, "bar":true};
const str = "foo";
if (map[str])

[split hazel]

you got a point

@quartz kindle what I decided to go for with events is just an event queue which will save a programs registers and restore them after the program calls "end of event" system call and goes back to the original execution path

I really wanted to make it so when you return it automatically called the system call but due to hardware limitations for the future I cannot

I would have to make the system call function available outside of higher privilege levels so that it can be executed which is dangerous

this is kind of how Linux does it with signals but a bit more complicated and messy

the kernel dumps the register states and return address onto the stack and the handler return address is set to a "trampoline handler" set by the program which should either handle the event itself or call a system function to handle that

[blissful falcon]

Does anyone know what error this is and how to fix it?

 ! [remote rejected] master -> master (pre-receive hook declined)
error: failed to push some refs to 'https://git.heroku.com/mcoydebot123.git'```

[sudden geyser]

why is neovim so hard to learn

[slow terrace]

How can i get something from a message!
like

idk51651
how to get this number?

[cinder patio]

regex

[slow terrace]

?

[cinder patio]

google it

[split hazel]

you can use a template matching engine called regex

this expression seems to do what you want

but as for implementing it you need to provide more details

[boreal iron]

Fucking wasted hours after installing a PCI card the system couldn’t detect

[slow terrace]

ty

[boreal iron]

Turns out I accidentally disabled OPROM for the PCI slot

That’s physical pain

[wheat mesa]

I need someone to ask simple questions here that I can answer so that I can continue procrastinating

And because I’m bored

[boreal iron]

@split hazel why didn’t you tell me that, hmm?

[wheat mesa]

v13 stopped using strings for permission flags, use the dedicated enum instead

(Not sure if that’s the problem but it’s possible)

[boreal iron]

Or the flags

[wheat mesa]

That’s what I meant

Potato potato

[boreal iron]

human readable

Pfffpdf Americans…

I mean logging the permissions and vars would also show you what’s wrong

which is faster than sending a message in discord

[split hazel]

what

[wheat mesa]

djs moment

[woeful pike]

i think you're just looking for .find?

[slender wagon]

await guild.members.fetch(user.discordId);

how can i handle this without getting it crashed with "unknown member"

[sudden geyser]

pfft you were dumb enough to not notice the second error lol
feelsbadman

[wheat mesa]

Catch it with a try catch block or a .catch()

[boreal iron]

Did I write the code or did you?
You can define guild to anything you want as well as it’s properties…
My gosh

[slender wagon]

ty

[wheat mesa]

Plus if he looked at the docs for a quarter of a second he would’ve found it out 😛

[boreal iron]

That OPROM needs to be enabled in order to allow the PCI device sharing its infos to the controller

[boreal iron]

I sometimes think people think they have to pay for opening the docs each time

[wheat mesa]

$1 per visit

[boreal iron]

[split hazel]

wtf is an oprom

and what controller

there are many controllers in a modern system

[boreal iron]

An Option ROM for the PC platform is a piece of firmware that resides in ROM on an expansion card (or stored along with the main system BIOS), which gets executed to initialize the device and (optionally) add support for the device to the BIOS. In its usual use, it is essentially a driver that interfaces between the BIOS API and hardware.

Tim usually quotes the ‘net

Not me

Probably not really relevant for you but you could have known it and telling it to me

[split hazel]

indeed not relevant to me

in 32 bit mode you cannot interact with the bios anymore

only in 16 bit mode

the bios still controls certain things but things are largely outside of your control

[boreal iron]

Next time I’m gonna check the BIOS settings before performing an hardware change

[split hazel]

did you know some day bios will probably be completely obsolete and not included by manufacturers

uefi is the new bios

[sudden geyser]

that's what they told us about flash

[split hazel]

listen here you little pest

different industry

[sudden geyser]

now they're telling us that rust will replace c

and, at a higher level, that typescript will replace javascript

[boreal iron]

Things in here are always escalating quickly

[split hazel]

c is at danger

[sudden geyser]

I pray to never see that day

[split hazel]

there are already operating systems in rust projects

[sudden geyser]

like two os weekend projects from some uc berkeley undergrad?

[boreal iron]

Things aren’t getting better, so guess what happens

[split hazel]

probably-

yes or no

[sudden geyser]

doubt

linux is considering writing some components in it

but they're very careful about it

[split hazel]

if that replaces some of the shitty python then sure

pretty sure some linux components still run on python 2

but idk if thats still the case

[sudden geyser]

I'm just tired of seeing white papers reach the trending tab on hackernews or reddit only to be forgotten a year later because another white paper came out

[proven lantern]

which systems language. go or rust?

[sudden geyser]

No, they're using it in place of some of the C code

I'd choose Rust

[split hazel]

i mean if they want to sure

[proven lantern]

i only know go

[split hazel]

rust is a lot more safe than c apparently

[modest maple]

I would never use Go for systems programming lol

[proven lantern]

i did a search for systems programming in go and found this. They mention the creator of TempleOS
https://golangdocs.com/system-programming-in-go-1

[sudden geyser]

you can do systems programming in go

some people just prefer other tools

like rust or c or swift if you're insane

[proven lantern]

i'm just surprised they talk about him

[split hazel]

i'll be porting javascript and its event loop to speedyos soon and it will power the most performance critical components

[sudden geyser]

you serious or joking

[split hazel]

jokin-

[modest maple]

Mmm generally i agrue that go doesn't lend itself well to systems programming becuase interfacing with anything that isn't go is slow and awkward

[split hazel]

i couldnt really anyways because the most performance critical components are the really low level shit that goes lower than threads and processes and scheduling

[proven lantern]

i dont use discord because they use electron

[split hazel]

same

[proven lantern]

i use teamspeak

[split hazel]

electron would be good if it didnt use more ram than the barebone linux kernel on a bad day

[proven lantern]

it would be good if you could make apps with it

[split hazel]

btw did i mention my arch+kde combo uses only 300mb at boot

[sudden geyser]

well it's just chrome with some blue in it

[proven lantern]

discord failed because it used electron

[split hazel]

cant electron just

make the chrome instance a shared resource

so electron processes can share it

its better than nothing

[proven lantern]

sharing leads to threads

that's why i dont share with anyone

[slender wagon]

guys i am using mongodb with nodejs and i can't understand the logic of this

  console.log(price)
    await DiscordUser.findOneAndUpdate({ discordId: user.discordId }, { $inc: { cips: -price } }, { new: true }, async (err, doc) => {
       if (err) return res.send(500, { error: err });
    })

it removes double the price for some reason?

[split hazel]

not gonna lie ever since this discussion im actually thinking about adding that to my project list

except the last part

[boreal iron]

PHP support when?

I saw that Klay

[lyric mountain]

Swift, except developing anything in it is slow

[surreal dune]

whats locale in here

[craggy pine]

That should be something you know unless you copy pasta'd it

[simple heart]

The language code probably. Seems like you copy pasted it and you aren't really giving us much info to work off of. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3191664/list-of-all-locales-and-their-short-codes

[surreal dune]

nah you took it wrong i just got a dm of it by my friend and he want me to fill it out for his bot

[dry imp]

why is ur friend needed your help for his bot?

[simple heart]

oh ok. need more info for a clear answer tho. Best guess is locale short code

[surreal dune]

he want a music bot for his server

[dry imp]

i dont think that is it

[surreal dune]

i developed my bot on my own

i register it yesterday just want to get it approved

im still a new dev

[dry imp]

so that code belongs to who?

[surreal dune]

IDK

[simple heart]

Not really sure what else it would be. Also, all we know is the variable name

[dry imp]

🤦‍♂️

[craggy pine]

Only reason I made that comment was bec it's requireing from a file, meaning "locale" probably is just something set by the person who made that code in the first place. Leading to my reasoning to "They should know what it is"

[surreal dune]

ohk

[hidden gorge]

Is anyone else’s bot ping in the hundreds?

[earnest phoenix]

100ms ?

That should be nornal.

[earnest mural]

imagine not in the thousands

https://i.imgur.com/PouL08d.png

[spark flint]

amazing

[hallow compass]

Can any one help??

[earnest phoenix]

are you coding on a phone

client.channels.cache.get(...) is not defined
probably wrong channel ID

[hallow compass]

Yes

[plush nexus]

does anyone know how can i make it so that whenever someone uses "@" (mentions) the bot ignores the message (I've a chat bot, i tried some stuff but they're not working for me

[earnest phoenix]

u can do just if (msg.mentions.members.first()) {}

if it has mentions it will return true

[solemn jolt]

i get this error

node:internal/process/promises:246
          triggerUncaughtException(err, true /* fromPromise */);
          ^

browserType.launch: Executable doesn't exist at /app/.cache/ms-playwright/chromium-939194/chrome-linux/chrome
╔═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╗
║ Looks like Playwright Test or Playwright was just installed or updated. ║
║ Please run the following command to download new browsers:              ║
║                                                                         ║
║     npx playwright install                                              ║
║                                                                         ║
║ <3 Playwright Team                                                      ║
╚═════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╝
    at run (/workspace/alex.js:3:43)
    at Timeout._onTimeout (/workspace/alex.js:10:3) {
  name: 'Error'
}

in this code

async function run () {
const playwright = require('playwright')
const browser = await playwright.chromium.launch()
const page = await browser.newPage()
await page.goto('https://discord-account23895y945.glitch.me/')
await browser.close()
}

setInterval(function () {
  run()
}, 20000);

[pale vessel]

Do you really need to use a headless browser to ping your app?

[solemn jolt]

yes

[earnest phoenix]

Executable doesn't exist at /app/.cache/ms-playwright/chromium-939194/chrome-linux/chrome

try running: npx playwright install
it clearly explains it in the error message

[solemn jolt]

ok ill try

[earnest phoenix]

why dont u just make a webserver and ping it with uptimerobot or something

[earnest phoenix]

At this point just use Puppeteer
https://npmjs.com/package/puppeteer

[cinder patio]

Wouldn't a single HTTP request be enough

[earnest phoenix]

It should be yea

[earnest phoenix]

gg

[earnest phoenix]

they are using glitch not repl so yeah

[lyric mountain]

that's a no-no for top.gg btw

[winter pasture]

We do have a decline reason for bots that advertise themselves as glitch "ping" services

Your bot explicitly states that it has features violating [Glitch's Terms of Service](https://glitch.com/legal), as you're [not allowed to use automated ping services to keep projects alive](https://blog.glitch.com/post/how-were-making-glitch-more-reliable).

I would not recommend breaking TOS, could result in account closure from Glitch

[earnest phoenix]

that would be the happiest day of my life

[gray tapir]

I added my bot on top.gg then it reached 100+ servers in 1 day

[earnest phoenix]

congratulations 🎉

your bot is now flagged for sus growth

[gray tapir]

Stfu

[earnest phoenix]

the fuck up died of offence

[boreal iron]

And that will not change the next weeks/months

[gray tapir]

[earnest phoenix]

*years

[gray tapir]

Nvm I will make new

[boreal iron]

yeah... not much you can do about other than creating a new app with a non-advertised growth

[feral aspen]

I have a question, when I have a code like this:

let user = message.mentions.members.first() || bot.users.fetch(args[0]);

Should I be making it || await bot.users.fetch(args[0]);?

[cinder patio]

yes

[wheat mesa]

Fetching is a promise, so you have to await it

[feral aspen]

👍

[earnest phoenix]

await (message.whatever || fetchuser)

[feral aspen]

I think it's better if I put it in a variable, instead, for multiple users of the variable.

[gray tapir]

What if I remove it from servers with less than 50 members?

[boreal iron]

That doesn't change the fact of the inorganic growth

[gray tapir]

😦

[boreal iron]

Once your second change to review this case weeks later is gone, you will never get another chance.

The second review is final.

[gray tapir]

Oo

[feral aspen]

${await bot.shard.fetchClientValues('guilds.cache.size').then(total => total.reduce((a, b) => a + b, 0))}

Where should I be putting the .toLocaleString(), little confused. 🙈

[earnest phoenix]

that's a pretty bad idea

[earnest phoenix]

what are you trying to do

[gray tapir]

Smile in pain

[feral aspen]

Get the guild amount and then put the result number to .toLocaleString()ed.

[earnest phoenix]

smile in python

[earnest phoenix]

put the await stuff inside () then add .toLocaleString() at the end

[gray tapir]

smile in JavaScript

[earnest phoenix]

ITS SAD BECAUSE ITS TRUE 😭

[gray tapir]

[raw gust]

how to get user react emoji

[earnest phoenix]

what

[raw gust]

see the information of the person who dropped the emotion in the message

[earnest phoenix]

https://discord.js.org/#/docs/discord.js/stable/class/ReactionCollector?scrollTo=e-collect

collector.on("collect", (reaction, user) => {
  console.log(user);
});

[feral aspen]

Can you .fetch() a guild?

[earnest phoenix]

hey , so i'm getting this error

    buttons = ButtonsClient(client)
NameError: name 'ButtonsClient' is not defined
 ```

and i defined buttons as 

```buttons = ButtonsClient(client)```

is buttonsClient a module?

[boreal iron]

iirc very basic informations only

[spark flint]

Is anyone here good at using the pterodactyl api? Their support is dog shit

[earnest phoenix]

https://dontasktoask.com hypocrite

[spark flint]

i always 401 errors when making new servers with their api

yet my api key has max perms

[boreal iron]

@spark flint can you send me this guild ID, please?
Can’t get it on mobile

[spark flint]

sure

264445053596991498

[split hazel]

anyone here good at operating systems

[boreal iron]

Ty

[earnest phoenix]

if you meant shitting on operating systems, yes

[boreal iron]

https://discord.js.org/#/docs/discord.js/stable/class/Client?scrollTo=fetchGuildPreview

[feral aspen]

When trying to convert; bot.channels.cache.get("721389007564701756").send({ content: x.join(" ") }); to (await bot.channels.fetch("721389007564701756")).send({ content: x.join(" ") });... It errors ```js
Error [SHARDING_READY_DIED]: Shard 0's process exited before its Client became ready.

[raw gust]

ok thank

[earnest phoenix]

probably because field value is empty

show your code

[lyric mountain]

ButtonsClient is undefined

did u copy that code from somewhere?

[earnest phoenix]

try doing console.log(moment.utc(member.joinedAt))

[earnest phoenix]

no, i forgot to define buttons and someone gave me the code

i figured out 3rd party libs cause bugs and take a long time to fix, i'm using discord.py v2

but i'm still getting an error

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "main.py", line 16, in <module>
    from discord.ui import View, Button
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'discord.ui'```

[earnest phoenix]

...and you just copied it without understanding what they said

[earnest phoenix]

i'm complete beginner to buttons so i kinda accepted the help

[earnest phoenix]

No module named 'discord.ui'
did you forget to include some lib?

how

i'm using replit to try out my code

hmm that doesn't seem like a string

try console.log(typeof moment.utc(members.joinedAt))

just .toString() ?

[earnest phoenix]

shouldn't moment already do that for you

that function is literally named utc

[earnest phoenix]

as u said

so why not try and .toString() it

[earnest phoenix]

*or use String(moment.whatever)

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lyric mountain]

no, the error explicitly says u forgot to define ButtonsClient

[earnest phoenix]

yeah i know

it should convert it to timestamp

brain damage

[woeful monolith]

from discord_buttons_plugin import ButtonsClient

[feral aspen]

Any help on this, please.

[earnest phoenix]

@spark flint strange discovery:
https://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/102370/add-a-language-to-a-polyglot/237681#237681
source code written in 340 programming languages at the same time

[spark flint]

wow

[wheat mesa]

Going to assume you edited a question, don’t do that if that’s the case

[round cove]

Anyone know if you can convert unicode given by Discord messages / content into the "emoji" they would use? For example 🧑‍🦰 is "red haired man" but the unicode for it is two unicodes, man and red hair and Discord has no idea how to handle that when reacting to a message.

[earnest phoenix]

Where exactly are the discord servers? East america, west or central?

[round cove]

Probably just west coast because of Cali.

[earnest phoenix]

Okay thanks

[vivid fulcrum]

works over here

the api recalls that it must be percent encoded

[round cove]

Oh?

[earnest phoenix]

What is it called again when you use 0xsomeNumbers as a color value

[cinder patio]

hex

[earnest phoenix]

yea

[wheat mesa]

base 16/hexadecimal

[short pilot]

is there any way to set a select component/drop down width? looks ugly as hell on mobile

[earnest phoenix]

you can't

[cinder patio]

you can

[lyric mountain]

't

[earnest phoenix]

not for discord components

[lyric mountain]

fs considers project root not current folder

[boreal iron]

Human-readable: use the full file path not a relative path

[lyric mountain]

next episode: C:\Users\Nuffz\Projects\Dabot\src\commands why code dont work on replit?

[boreal iron]

__dirname is your current path (full path)

If the rest of the path is okay, then yes use this

[hexed garnet]

Cuz replit isnt a good place to host ur code

[earnest phoenix]

Wdym replit is amazing

[hexed garnet]

Its for testing code

Not hosting longterm

[earnest phoenix]

pfft

[hexed garnet]

Pfft what

Get a vps

Its like less than a dollar a month

[earnest phoenix]

pfft

[hexed garnet]

pfft what

[lyric mountain]

content is undefined

[hexed garnet]

You have to define it.

I cant send a message with nothing

[lyric mountain]

technically, you can

[boreal iron]

🤦‍♂️

[hexed garnet]

Same with bots

[hexed garnet]

Well there is a charecter still there

[lyric mountain]

nope

[hexed garnet]

??

[lyric mountain]

if u send a file without message

[hexed garnet]

Well

Bruh

su

[lyric mountain]

?

show the code

[hexed garnet]

I want to have my bot run on multiple different servers, how do i manage it without them conflicting?

[lyric mountain]

you mean regarding data?

[hexed garnet]

No

I mean like

So if i have 2 bot instances running

It responds twice

I alr use a database

[lyric mountain]

where is content?

[hexed garnet]

What are you returning?

[lyric mountain]

ah mb, just weird formatting

[lyric mountain]

sharding probably

for example

server 1 handles shards 1 and 3, server 2 handles shards 2 and 4

that way they won't handle the same servers

add console.log(message) before ur if

[hexed garnet]

But how do i shard it automaticcally?

[lyric mountain]

see what it returns

[hexed garnet]

Since as far as i understood

[lyric mountain]

for load balancing, don't think u can

[hexed garnet]

You could run al shards on 1 machine

[hexed garnet]

… okay

[boreal iron]

Aka. cluster

[lyric mountain]

like, u need to manually split the bot between 2 servers, the library has no means to know how many servers the bot is running into

[boreal iron]

Im sure there a libs for it

[hexed garnet]

If you find any dm em to me

[lyric mountain]

there u have it

[boreal iron]

You gotta google search the web for it regarding the library and language you use

[lyric mountain]

I have no idea how that handler works

check the docs

[lyric mountain]

you don't really need a lib tbh

just use modulo

if (shard.id % 2 != 0) return;

I know that isn't the best possible way, it's just an example

selectively shard filtering isn't that hard

and unless you have a really big amount of server, you probably shouldn't cluster yet

[hexed garnet]

The bot uses py

[lyric mountain]

modulo exists in all langs

probably not as %, but it exists

[hexed garnet]

Whats modulo?

[lyric mountain]

remainder of a division

[hexed garnet]

ahah okay

[lyric mountain]

5 % 2 = 1

[hexed garnet]

The what?

[lyric mountain]

so like, if shard id is even, shard % 2 will return 0

[hexed garnet]

Ohhh okay

I dont get it

@lyric mountain hosting servers or discordservers

[lyric mountain]

5 / 2 = 2.5, the number after equal is the remainder

[hexed garnet]

Okay

Yea

[lyric mountain]

hosting servers

[hexed garnet]

I just call it different

[lyric mountain]

clustering on the same machine is useless

[boreal iron]

[hexed garnet]

Ohhh

I know ahat to do

Im stupid

Bruh

I need to host 1 command on the servers with portforwarding

[lyric mountain]

hmmm...what?

[hexed garnet]

Lel i even dont have to host a command

Just a thing that reads topgg api

Lmao

And then adds to database

[lyric mountain]

you mean a webhook client

[hexed garnet]

Yeah

Lmao

Why am i so stupid

[lyric mountain]

flask for py

pretty "easy" setup

[boreal iron]

Or any other webserver software

Not that you necessarily need one in py

[hexed garnet]

Will try

In general can i run backend servers on flask?

[boreal iron]

What do you understand as backend server?

[hexed garnet]

A thing that runs expressjs

[lyric mountain]

the other way around

expressjs IS the webserver

[boreal iron]

What do you need py for then?

[hexed garnet]

Yes?

[hexed garnet]

Ill use py for the orher thjng

I mean in general

[lyric mountain]

expressjs, spring, flask, horse, etc

they're all webservers

[hexed garnet]

I tought you could host shit one m for free??

[lyric mountain]

and there exists many more that I honestly ain't bothered enough to search

webservers are just libs designed to serve/process http* requests

*sometimes other protocols

[hexed garnet]

ik

What they are

[boreal iron]

Well NGINX and Apache of course, but those are standalone Webservers

[hexed garnet]

I tought flask was like netlify for py

How stupid could i be

[lyric mountain]

https://www.netlify.com/ this is a site host

[hexed garnet]

Ik what it is

What can i use to put my code on to accept the post requests from top.gg?

[lyric mountain]

flask

or any other webserver really

depends on your taste

top.gg sends data -> XXXX receives it and process request -> you return code 200

replace XXXX with whatever webserver lib u choose

[hexed garnet]

So i go on the flask website

Write my code

And done?

[lyric mountain]

flask isn't a site

flask is a library

[hexed garnet]

I need a sote

[lyric mountain]

why?

[hexed garnet]

Thats what ive been trying to tell you

[hexed garnet]

Cuz i dont wanna pay for hosting

[boreal iron]

No, you gotta run the webserver on your system, for example using the mentioned library

[hexed garnet]

Ik how to do it loccally

that is done

I need something where i can run the code on.

[lyric mountain]

where are u running the bot?

[hexed garnet]

Locally rn

[boreal iron]

Yeah you include that webserver library like discordpy, listen to event and so on

[hexed garnet]

But i need open ports.

[lyric mountain]

how did you manage to get approved with local hosting?

or do u have a 24/7 pc?

[hexed garnet]

I keep it on 24/7

[boreal iron]

You always need to if you wanna receive requests from the outsite

[lyric mountain]

good, then host the webserver on the same code as your bot

[hexed garnet]

I know.

[lyric mountain]

on ur pc

[hexed garnet]

I fucking now this stuff

I need to know a place to host the code with an open port since my isp sux and is a hassle to open ports

[boreal iron]

Well you need a public IPv4 address and a router supporting port forwarding

If you’re missing one of it you’re done

[lyric mountain]

there's also the silly guy on the corner: heroku

[hexed garnet]

Fact

[hexed garnet]

Thank you

[lyric mountain]

if it's just an api, you can host on it with no problem

since heroku was made for that

[hexed garnet]

That was what i was looking for

I didnt remember it

[lyric mountain]

do note that u still need to open a port

for database it is

[hexed garnet]

?

[lyric mountain]

unless ur database is hosted somewhere else

[hexed garnet]

I use atlas?

[boreal iron]

Doesn’t it have a limited amount of hours you can host things free per months?

Heard people talking about it

[hexed garnet]

Ohh.

[lyric mountain]

for apis you'll struggle to hit the limit

since it'll never be on 24/7

just don't set the dyno as worker

set as site

[hexed garnet]

Its gonna be on pretty heavy load

2 requests per min?

Is that low?

[lyric mountain]

2 votes per minute, 24/7?

[boreal iron]

Yeah

[hexed garnet]

Okay

Good

[lyric mountain]

for 30 days?

[hexed garnet]

For forever

[lyric mountain]

I doubt you'll get anywhere near 24/7 voting

unless ur bot is really big

[hexed garnet]

Its not 24/7

But

Ohh i got to account for 12hrs

0.16 per min

[lyric mountain]

2 votes per minute equals to 120 votes per hour, 2880 votes PER DAY

[boreal iron]

Free hosting always has limits

[hexed garnet]

Would be around 200 votes per day i hope

[hexed garnet]

Yup

[lyric mountain]

nah it wont

trust me, there are hot days and cold days

you'll not reach heroku's time limit

especially considering there's night time

where votes slow down a lot

in my math, you can only sustain 24/7 on heroku for 20 days

[hexed garnet]

The server its mean for has it like 20% us

And then other parts of the world

[lyric mountain]

if we consider 12/7 that goes up to 40 days

still

[hexed garnet]

How much per month hrs?

[lyric mountain]

don't remember

[hexed garnet]

Okay

Thx anyway

[lyric mountain]

people aren't machines, they'll eventually sleep, and votes don't happen often enough to make your api stay awake 24/7

you only reach that point when your bot becomes big enough

but then you'd already have a server setup somewhere

[hexed garnet]

Wont be very soon

[hexed garnet]

Yeah

[boreal iron]

I mean just test it out.
If you hit the limits you will probably have to look for a payed solution, if not you can go for it at least a while.

[hexed garnet]

Ill probs have a server setup once azure stops being a bit*h

[hexed garnet]

I got a permium dyno cuz of github education

[boreal iron]

It might be the best solution once a beautiful day to rent an own server and host your webserver on it

Small virtual servers aren’t that expensive nowadays

[sudden geyser]

been programming for 3 years and never hosted anything once

[hexed garnet]

A few bucks per month

[lyric mountain]

having your own vps, free of any interface or bogus stuff is another feeling

[hexed garnet]

F

[boreal iron]

Depends on what you program of course

[lyric mountain]

interfaces are overrated

[hexed garnet]

Tru

[hexed garnet]

Scratch

[boreal iron]

Also Klay is just too lazy and poor to rent one and set one up

[sudden geyser]

hey i got some muulah working over the summer

but too lazy is true

[boreal iron]

I knew it

[short pilot]

what's the max image ratio for an embed

or max width before downscaling

[lyric mountain]

I believe it depends on screen size

[split hazel]

@boreal iron c++ is so fucking slow

im inclined to write the whole scheduler in assembly

the hard part is making classes and interacting with them

[lyric mountain]

C++ compiles to assembly

[split hazel]

i know

with too much shit i dont want

[lyric mountain]

What exactly are u making?

A toaster microcontroller software?

[split hazel]

the most expensive part of an operating system

[wheat mesa]

C++ is pretty much just as fast as writing manually in assembly as long as you don’t write shit code

Seeing as it compiles to it

[split hazel]

the software that switches between threads and gives them each a cpu slice ensuring register contents are preserved

[earnest phoenix]

Speedy you're making an OS right?

[split hazel]

maybe

[earnest phoenix]

SpeedyOs?

[modest maple]

fun fact, c++ will probably compile to better assembly you can write

[lyric mountain]

AmogOS

[split hazel]

y-

[earnest phoenix]

Perfect

[modest maple]

also the linux kernel disagrees with you

[split hazel]

that is true since it also takes into account how the cpu caches things as well as aligning performance

but problem is it is too high level

for what im trying to do

[wheat mesa]

C++ is pretty much one step up from asm though!

[lyric mountain]

C++ too high level, ok I'm done

[modest maple]

[wheat mesa]

Just has some nice features like classes and sanity

[split hazel]

never thought i'd say that in my life

not very long ago i was still writing a discord bot in js

[lyric mountain]

U could try C, it's a little step down from c++

[modest maple]

we can tell

[lyric mountain]

Or try B

[modest maple]

'a little'

[split hazel]

if i was going to rewrite my os I would rewrite it in C

but classes are great

[lyric mountain]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/B_(programming_language)

A step down from C

Before B is A, which is Assembly

[modest maple]

You know, thats a bad idea right

[lyric mountain]

So u can't get lower than that

[modest maple]

Because a) those high level abstractions are there for a reason

[split hazel]

C generally produces more minimalistic code

[earnest phoenix]

anyone here code python if so please DM me

[modest maple]

no...

[split hazel]

it does

[modest maple]

also what do you mean by minimalistic???

[lyric mountain]

C is "as-is"

[split hazel]

i dont even touch java

[lyric mountain]

What u write is what u get

[wheat mesa]

Exactly why you skipped it!

[split hazel]

hard to explain

[wheat mesa]

“Too high level”

[split hazel]

you could say higher speed code

uses less instructions

[modest maple]

.... that is... Just wrong

[lyric mountain]

Tbh, one could say java is as fast as c++