if his ip address is dynamic he might get locked out
#development
boreal iron
How can he get locked out if we don't touch the input policy? Wtf
cinder aspen
Hi
proven lantern
I'd have to destroy everything i own and forget my name and ssn to get locked out of my hosting
shut sky
Im devlopere bot give mi role
proven lantern
fake is selling his account
shut sky
boreal iron
... was close to say something, Sir!
proven lantern
my uppercasing skills are lacking
look at how small my lambdas are now
can someone else finish refactoring my code
each slash command has it's own github repo and ci/cd pipeline
instead of one big project with all the commands. so much better
boreal iron
Feels like 0G
coral sigil
How can I calculate the permissions from the channel objects' array of overwrite objects returned from GET /channels/{channelId} from discord api?
split hazel
yeah it is quite slow
I've had to use it as a main driver one day
the good old days
aren't some states in the US dropping support for 2G now?
boreal iron
Mobile carriers have managed to fuck up the internet here the last 5 years.
3G has been shut down, more and more areas basically have no connection at all etc.
It’s just a joke
Am I’m the retard paying for that shit
earnest phoenix
2G is still a thing?
split hazel
oh right 3gs been shutting down not 2
split hazel
2G is still a thing?
yeah in most areas
earnest phoenix
Pain
split hazel
I don't get why they're shutting down 3g
boreal iron
Of course it is
boreal iron
You have to support all possible devices
earnest phoenix
I have a phone that emits radiation
split hazel
a couple of years ago my daily phone was one without 4g support haha
boreal iron
Yeah mine too
earnest phoenix
I have 5G
boreal iron
Don’t need to upgrade if the phone still works
earnest phoenix
Cause I'm kool
split hazel
I'm on a really weird network where 3g is faster and more reliable than 4g
only reason I'm on it is because has the cheapest non contract unlimited data
boreal iron
It was here as well but got shut down to deal as antennas for 5G
At an area 4G already has a really bad coverage
earnest phoenix
What
slender wagon
WOOOPS
split hazel
mobile networks are so inconsistent
boreal iron
mobile networks are so inconsistent
Yeah
If you don’t live in a big city you’re fucked
split hazel
I also do wonder if some day access to Internet will become completely free
it's practically a necessity nowadays
if you want the same opportunities
boreal iron
Well maybe at the time anything has been censored due discrimination because any word is offending nowadays
split hazel
that'd probably also be the case
boreal iron
Because humanity nowadays means stupidity
split hazel
though I don't know if the government(s) would be too willing to kill the broadband market
maybe if you'd want faster speeds
boreal iron
Why should they… it’s the perfect mass spy fundation
split hazel
and delicious tax cuts
boreal iron
The free internet is dying anyways since providers have began to threat packages differently looking into them where they come from to sell services whitelisting any consumer portals instead of routing any package anonymously, meaning dealing exactly the same with every package
In the future any available service can be whitelisted if you pay for it and the rest of the packages will be dropped due bandwidth limitations
That also allows to censor and filter the whole internet by just dropping packages coming from not by the government whitelisted sources for examples
I mean China is the best example
split hazel
would tor be our only escape
boreal iron
And I mean it’s even a conspiracy theory, we can already see how it goes and Snowden has told us why, when, etc.
split hazel
the future of society is looking quite grim
boreal iron
would tor be our only escape
I don’t think so… if the whole world enforces it, Tor will be shut down fast
boreal iron
the future of society is looking quite grim
Tbh yeah absolutely
split hazel
through entities trying to control something that doesn't realistically belong to them
boreal iron
Total control by your government, more and more rights and freedom is gone, anything you say can be discriminating because of any over sensible fucker out there and non-well payed jobs and increasing live costs are already the reality
split hazel
very true
boreal iron
A really, really great future, yeah
split hazel
there are too many people that are completely blindfolded to all of this happening or simply do not care
boreal iron
With the background, they tell us, to protect us 
split hazel
thinking the government is on their side 😂
proven lantern
things will be better after the war
boreal iron
thinking the government is on their side 😂
Yeah they all seem to grow up with the all this shit and don’t actually care about
It’s more important to introduce 20 different genders and remove any bad word or critism around the net to hope nobody ever feels bad reading some unrelated fucking opinion
split hazel
all the shit that doesn't matter in the long run
and im sure they know all about it and try to keep them satisfied
youtube comments are the biggest censorship definition I have ever seen
boreal iron
So sad sometimes to look back and see how shit has lots of stuff become
split hazel
for example they quietly delete comments their ai thinks has the smallest tint of criticism or bad language
or shadow them
boreal iron
lol
Where are the good old days you could call somebody an asshole and both laughed and moved on
split hazel
yeah I can imagine
boreal iron
Looks like anything "negative" needs to be controlled, fined and removed
split hazel
luckily all of the people I know in real life are very open to dark humour and just overall banter
and don't immediately get offended
lyric mountain
most people irl don't really care abt dark humour and laugh af
boreal iron
I read about people thinking of killing themselves just because there are millions of bad comments in their whatever.. Instagram account
Not that this is a joke but WTF why has the whole internet need to change or being censored because there’s somebody with mental illness?
I would better try to help that person and stop him/her from using that platform instead of censoring anything related to it
split hazel
yeah
boreal iron
But that’s where we are
split hazel
I read about people thinking of killing themselves just because there are millio...
the newer generations have really weak mental health
lyric mountain
the issue is that behind the internet noone will know who you are
boreal iron
the newer generations have really weak mental health
Yes, 1000000% true
lyric mountain
being anon makes some people go crazy
split hazel
I'd rather have someone harass me anonymously than lose my right to privacy
boreal iron
Yeah that doesn’t change the fact the hate and criitsm hits people who are somehow need to present themselves on the net
sudden geyser
But how far are you willing to go for privacy
boreal iron
If you do that and share you life with the whole world that CAN happen
We wanna censor the whole internet just because of a minority feels like they can’t deal with he "pressure"?
split hazel
and to think this world for humans used to be about trying to survive in the wild and hunting animals for food as well as looking for shelter
boreal iron
I mean wtf
split hazel
now there's a modern equivalent to that
split hazel
see ya
lyric mountain
tbh the root of all evil is twitter
split hazel
yes
sudden geyser
what about facebook
lyric mountain
facebook is mild
split hazel
yes too
boreal iron
Most social platforms tbh
lyric mountain
twitter is what made the internet become what it is now
split hazel
Facebook just wants to harvest your data
sudden geyser
Most social platforms tbh
including this one?
split hazel
or shall I say meta
split hazel
including this one?
any platform which aims to make a profit is probably like that or will eventually become that
boreal iron
Well discord is more localized than global tbh
sudden geyser
or shall I say meta
at least in a few years we'll have this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibm3WhfLk08
split hazel
at least in a few years we'll have this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibm3WhfL...
oh dear
next zuck can track and store the amount of times you take a shit every day
lyric mountain
at least in a few years we'll have this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibm3WhfL...
were the zuckertits really necessary?
like, we all know zuckerberg is a twig
boreal iron
It’s just hard to see what slowly happens but be the reality in a few years in terms of privacy loss, censorship and so on
split hazel
I've been on some tor network forums
the people there are very different
it actually feels somewhat free in some sense
lyric mountain
what, meta?
meta will be free afaik
and some people are already selling land there
novel snow
Bruh
I been tryna do this for ages now;
How the hell do I delete guild specific commands from my bot?
split hazel
if anything is free nowadays that's a red flag on its own
split hazel
I been tryna do this for ages now;
How the hell do I delete guild specific comma...
I think you just send an empty array when posting commands to the api
oh guild specific hm
not sure
novel snow
Tried just sending a different array not including any other commands and just 1 help command, Still piles up a fuck ton of my previous commands
It is so confusing and idk how to fix it
Tryna use this;
rest
.get(Routes.applicationGuildCommands(client_id, '324195889977622530'))
.then(data => {
const promises = [];
for (const command of data) {
const deleteUrl = `${Routes.applicationGuildCommands(
client_id,
'324195889977622530'
)}/${command.id}`;
promises.push(rest.delete(deleteUrl));
console.log('Wacko ' + deleteUrl);
}
return Promise.all(promises);
});
Doesn't work sadly
Doesn't log anything either
split hazel
did you try sending a post request for specific guilds with an empty commands array
if its just your test server reinvite the bot?
wheat mesa
novel snow
if its just your test server reinvite the bot?
Tried that too
For some reason the commands persist
novel snow
let me check
wheat mesa
Have you tried reloading your discord :p
proven lantern
you need to kick and reinvite or wait an hour
novel snow
How imma get a command id breh
wheat mesa
Guild specific commands update immediately do they not?
novel snow
Guild specific commands update immediately do they not?
They do
How would I get the id of a command?
earnest phoenix
Or /guilds/GUILD_ID/commands instead of /commands
proven lantern
oh yeah, that will get you the guild level commands and not the global commands
novel snow
Lemme test
DiscordAPIError[0]: 404: Not Found
at SequentialHandler.runRequest (C:\Users\jaspe\Projects\Axo's BGN Bot\node_modules\@discordjs\rest\dist\lib\handlers\SequentialHandler.js:198:23)
at processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:96:5)
at async SequentialHandler.queueRequest (C:\Users\jaspe\Projects\Axo's BGN Bot\node_modules\@discordjs\rest\dist\lib\handlers\SequentialHandler.js:99:20) {
rawError: { message: '404: Not Found', code: 0 },
code: 0,
status: 404,
method: 'get',
url: 'https://discord.com/api/v9http://discord.com/api/v8/applications/897590420387815485/guilds/324195889977622530/commands'
}
.-.
I think I am just dumb
pale vessel
You sure you got the correct guild ID?
novel snow
Positive
324195889977622530
Now using this;
rest
.get(
`http://discord.com/api/v8/applications/${client_id}/guilds/324195889977622530/commands`
)
.then(data => {
const promises = [];
for (const command of data) {
const deleteUrl = `${Routes.applicationGuildCommands(
client_id,
'324195889977622530'
)}/${command.id}`;
//promises.push(rest.delete(deleteUrl));
console.log('Wacko ' + deleteUrl);
}
//return Promise.all(promises);
});```
earnest phoenix
Get rid of everything before /applications I guess
earnest phoenix
You need the slash
pale vessel
You're right, I didn't see that it already prepended the v9 base URL 
earnest phoenix
At the beginning
earnest phoenix
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
sudden geyser
why does the url even require a slash
when every call is going to require one anyway
novel snow
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
yes
novel snow
I mean I still gotta get the ID of a command for it to work I think
Where do I even get a command ID
shadow frigate
Does anyone plan their discord bot, or not really?
Like I have a google drive full of documents and shit for my bot
spark flint
Does anyone plan their discord bot, or not really?
No
I just get an idea and try get as far as I can coding it
shadow frigate
I just get an idea and try get as far as I can coding it
I got weekly checklists for my bot, as well as a checklist for hiring new support team members
spark flint
Nice
shadow frigate
Even got a google group lmao
Idk if I’m going too far with it tho
But my bot be growing hella fast
jolly notch
Does anyone plan their discord bot, or not really?
yeah
shadow frigate
So could be useful 🤷♂️
spark flint
My Christmas bot was coded in a day without any real plan
shadow frigate
What do you use to plan it?
spark flint
I just said fuck it, I’m coding
shadow frigate
I use google sheets and do a
Do a
Docs
If you go with a discord project (bot), it’s probably better to have it planned
sudden geyser
I stopped using google sheets and docs. I switched to excel and word
Pain.
jolly notch
I feel like it's better
shadow frigate
Better collaboration
jolly notch
I don't collaborate
shadow frigate
What’s wrong with google docs lol
shadow frigate
I stopped using google sheets and docs. I switched to excel and word
What do u use excel for?
spark flint
Ohhh
shadow frigate
Fair enough
spark flint
I thought you said you illegally used it
jolly notch
What do u use excel for?
I just have it and don't touch it
same with the full adobe suite(creative cloud)
shadow frigate
I use trello for tasks and project management
sudden geyser
You could also use GitHub issues
jolly notch
You could also use GitHub issues
Sometimes you wanna keep it secret from the public if your bot is open source
jolly notch
Depends on the feature
If I find a moderation bug I am not going to disclose it to the world before I patch it
sudden geyser
For those issues, sure. But I guarantee 99% of bots won't need private issues. Most often it's just for privacy, but being open can't hurt that much given the bot's open source 😛
earnest phoenix
Can slash commands have more than 1 command in a command?
like /break **request** and then in another line /break **accept**
Ik how to do it in a Normal command, but do slash commands allow that?
Such as a uh, sub-command...?
sudden geyser
Can slash commands have more than 1 command in a command?
like `/break **reques...
Are you referring to subcommands?
earnest phoenix
Yep^
sudden geyser
Then yes.
earnest phoenix
Sweet! Will go follow up with the docs, ty!
sudden geyser
quartz kindle
is autocomplete not released yet?
boreal iron
I mean in combination with nesting
quartz kindle
ah
but you can just use a text command and have your own subcommands in it no?
parsing the autocomplete yourself
boreal iron
Don’t even get what you mean by auto complete. Auto compete commands or values?
quartz kindle
the autocomplete interaction
boreal iron
quartz kindle
i mean, i never tested it, but assuming it works like i think it works
boreal iron
Still all commands pop up even without calling the specific sub group
If you have 1000 sub commands and enter the slash, have fun finding something
quartz kindle
thats why im saying, get rid of sub commands and parse them yourself
boreal iron
the autocomplete interaction
Ah ok I thought something else is meant by that
boreal iron
thats why im saying, get rid of sub commands and parse them yourself
No if nesting comes alive you will only see config as command and if you select it or enter it, the sub groups will pop up
That’s at least what Discord explained how it should work
in the future
sudden geyser
thats why im saying, get rid of sub commands and parse them yourself
that'd be worse on the user imo
quartz kindle
not if the autocomplete works the way it should
boreal iron
Let’s see what the future brings if Discord ever moves forward
boreal iron
not if the autocomplete works the way it should
Does it work for multiple parameters?
sudden geyser
but what benefit would autocompletion bring over the built-in search for subcommands
boreal iron
I mean what I’m speaking about is exactly what auto complete is but built into the UI
quartz kindle
for example, my bot has literally millions of possible input combinations, i cant possibly use subcommands or built in autocomplete
if i can receive autocomplete interactions and respond autocomplete suggestions to be shown to the user, then i could make my own system entirely
thats what i understand from the docs
Autocomplete interactions allow your application to dynamically return option suggestions to a user as they type.
round cove
quartz kindle
what
sudden geyser
would be a lot cooler if it did
woeful pike
why would anyone want to create a new C repo/project in this day and age
proven lantern
can i get some feedback on this architecture for slash command hosting.
start with a routing lambda that has an api gateway attached to it that is used as the interaction endpoint url. The routing lambda looks at the request and invokes a lambda to handle that logic asyncly. (There is a separate lambda with it's own codebase and ci/cd pipeline for each command) The routing lambda then acks the request.
woeful pike
wait why is every command its own codebase what
solemn latch
seems flawless to me
proven lantern
wait why is every command its own codebase what
yeah, creating a lambda app creates a codebase that is ci/cd with the lambda
the lambda that is 15MB has all the logic in it currently.
if i split them up then cold starts will be faster
quartz kindle
i mean, depending on what your commands do, thats very cool
you can independently host different commands for extra redudancy
but if your commands require looking up a centralized database, that will likely make everything slower
idk if they do database replication, i know cloudflare functions dont, they just cache locally
proven lantern
but if your commands require looking up a centralized database, that will likely...
the lambdas are in the same datacenter as the database. us-east-2
quartz kindle
yes but arent they replicated on their edge network?
well, not that it makes any difference
since its all coming from discord
proven lantern
i think you can pay more to do edge network stuff with dynamodb
but i dont really need that
im cheap
quartz kindle
it would be completely useless in this case anyway
in general i like your idea
just worried about database latency
also are you using free lambdas or paid?
because if you're going paid, they will be more expensive than a vps, so that would be another downside
literally this #development message
they have their own input options
inside them
proven lantern
also are you using free lambdas or paid?
sorry, got pulled away for a sec. these are all free lambdas, but if i start getting millions of requests it'll start costing money
proven lantern
just worried about database latency
do you want the database to be on the same machine as the code?
quartz kindle
depends on the scale
proven lantern
the lambda is in the same datacenter as the database so the latency is going to be smol
quartz kindle
yeah should be good enough
i think anything below 100k guilds shouldnt warrant a dedicated server for a database
but also depends on the workload
im still using sqlite for all my projects anyway
proven lantern
my setup should scale from 0 to infinity. the lambdas take almost no time to spin up so they can scale up and down super quick. they can even scale down to 0 when there is no traffic
sudden geyser
but are you really going to need it?
solemn latch
I think as a concept its worth looking into
proven lantern
the lambdas and the database both auto scale
and i have like 15 separate databases that each scale independently
quartz kindle
you can see which commands are most popular based on how much each lambda is costing you
xD
proven lantern
built in analytics
proven lantern
but are you really going to need it?
if the bot grows i'll need it. i'm over 1k servers already
boreal iron
Does auto complete also include a match requirement?
Meaning if you enter a value you didn’t predefine in your code you can’t send interaction.
quartz kindle
Does auto complete also include a match requirement?
Meaning if you enter a valu...
no, you receive anything the user types
but its set per option
so you only receive them for the specific options you enable it for
and only when the user is typing inside that option
boreal iron
But can’t I force the input to match my options?
quartz kindle
wdym
proven lantern
But can’t I force the input to match my options?
yeah, with choices
woeful pike
cloudflare workers has like a 30x higher free tier cap
proven lantern
cloudflare workers looks super cool
the lambdas all share the same instance
isolates or something like that
quartz kindle
but cf workers are on their edge network, which is a complete waste if you only use it for discord lul
woeful pike
lol
boreal iron
yeah, with `choices`
Yeah but do they support autocomplete?
Or do they pop up as option if I type?
quartz kindle
you dont need custom autocomplete for choices
they have built in autocomplete
thats the whole point of choices
boreal iron
Yeah but I want to force a 100% match of my autocomplete value
quartz kindle
if you enable choices, the user can only pick those choices, nothing else
proven lantern
Yeah but I want to force a 100% match of my autocomplete value
only add autocomplete options that map to the choices options
quartz kindle
but doesnt the interaction invalidate if the choice doesnt exist?
proven lantern
yeah
quartz kindle
so yeah
proven lantern
i think you cant even send the request\
quartz kindle
exactly
proven lantern
but it is still like a forced auto complete. you start typing and the choices are filtered down
quartz kindle
yeah its built in
boreal iron
What’s autocomplete even based on? Your previous inputs?
quartz kindle
command history is a different thing
what im talking about is when you are in the middle of typing a command
boreal iron
Wtf is it me or …?
quartz kindle
and it shows you available options based on that partial you already typed
proven lantern
i should make a command with yes and no as the choice and then have autocomplete map yes to no and no to yes
quartz kindle
lul
i dont think you can do that with choices, i mean, you can reverse the value, but the user doesnt see it until they submit
boreal iron
and it shows you available options based on that partial you already typed
Available options you predefine like choices?
proven lantern
i dont think you can do that with choices, i mean, you can reverse the value, bu...
perfect, so they dont get a chance to fix it
quartz kindle
Available options you predefine like choices?
if you enable custom autocomplete in a string option, you receive an autocomplete interaction event for every character the user types (while focused on that string option), and on each of those events, you can reply with a list of options for the user to see in their autocomplete UI
quartz kindle
yes
idk if its any char or if it has a small timer on it
but i typed abc, and got 3 events
but this is nothing compared to presence updates, so...
¯_(ツ)_/¯
quartz kindle
yes love querying
boreal iron
live querying
quartz kindle
:^)
boreal iron
I did that after 3 chars entered live querying the database with any char entered
quartz kindle
yes
boreal iron
Turns out to be a lot of traffic
boreal iron
When tausounds of users of my community panel entered stuff simultaneously
Ya ya I did just took a while to figure it out and notice
Learning by doing, you know
quartz kindle
for me its not much of an issue, since im using sqlite, a LIKE query on 20k rows takes < 1ms
and my db is smol
compared to yours
boreal iron
Just didn’t got the difference between choices and autocomplete before you mentioned the event
Yeah the player database which was queried was huge
And indexing was complicated as I had to store lots of text and JSON
jasons
quartz kindle
just tested again
its not every character
i think its one event when the user starts typing
and nother when it stops typing
solemn latch
I bet typing speed bots could use that
boreal iron
Live searching possible values to enter in my database or by using any API
quartz kindle
its gonna be a huge upgrade to my bot
since the user can select from hundreds of thousands of options
solemn latch
I was thinking of making a new game bot with gifs, no art or anything this time just for fun
quartz kindle
currently the user needs to use a separate command to find the id of an object by name
with autocomplete they wont need that anymore
proven lantern
i'll be using the autocomplete to show a list of members in the server and things like that.
boreal iron
Yeah compared to what I know it does, that feature seems to be perfect for you
sudden geyser
Sometimes it fires autocompletion multiple times without additional input
Which is annoying
boreal iron
I still want command nesting tho! I want it! I want it! I want it!!!
quartz kindle
could be from focusing/unfocusing on the option
proven lantern
i wish each command had it's own interaction endpoint
and then you could move the command to a new group or subgroup without needing to update code
it'd be so modular
sudden geyser
but that's for the sake of convenience
you can still get modularity
with the current design
boreal iron
Sometimes it fires autocompletion multiple times without additional input
Might be a good idea then to cache your last response to not send the same response over and over again
proven lantern
yeah
sudden geyser
I think most people just end up coupling the definitions and implementation (like me)
sudden geyser
Might be a good idea then to cache your last response to not send the same respo...
yeah I could
I've been avoiding cache but that would work
boreal iron
At least the last response
proven lantern
i do this to make it modular
proven lantern
i just make sure the command name is unique across all categories
then i can move it around without code changes
lyric mountain
i do this to make it modular
options.options[0]?.options
boreal iron
I've been avoiding cache but that would work
Yeah I don’t implement that in my backend, too if I can avoid it but it seems like a good solution here
lyric mountain
Just so you save null checking up there
proven lantern
i dont think that's in the standard
lyric mountain
Also, NOT || NOT?
proven lantern
where do you see these things?
lyric mountain
lyric mountain
It can be reduced to !options.options[0]?.options
lyric mountain
?. is optional chaining, so if the former is null it'll also result in null
proven lantern
is there a quick way to see what the resulting js is?
proven lantern
boreal iron
Also, NOT || NOT?
proven lantern
lyric mountain
How much data will you handle, the required performance, server capacity, knowledge, etc
sudden geyser
any database will probably work
sudden geyser
unless you're doing local storage on the user's device
in which you got powerful localStorage
woeful pike
sqlite won't work if the platform you're on wipes your filessysem after every deploy
but other than that the db doesn't matter
lyric mountain
Why, don't u like to kill ur data after using it?
woeful pike
useful for banks and stuff
lyric mountain
Yeah
Sites will be 80% of the time frontend + backend
Unless u want plain static pages
Frontend will be only visual stuff/user interaction
While backend will be the number crunching part
Either REST or websocket
woeful pike
that's not necessarily true I mean you have machine learning and stuff on the frontend
lyric mountain
that's not necessarily true I mean you have machine learning and stuff on the fr...
How does that even work?
sudden geyser
assistive technology probably
boreal iron
Why would you need an API at all?
lyric mountain
To establish a communication between both ends
Unless u run both front and back from the same code
boreal iron
Put the content you fetch from your bot into a database and query it
woeful pike
How does that even work?
webassembly
lyric mountain
Database ops on frontend 
sudden geyser
One day the utopia of the browser talking directly to the database will come true
boreal iron
Oh he means an interactive dashboard?
lyric mountain
Probably
boreal iron
Ah ok
woeful pike
One day the utopia of the browser talking directly to the database will come tru...
you mean firebase
sudden geyser
except that one
lyric mountain
While you can, anything visible to the user is also accessible by the user
Keep that in mind
boreal iron
Thought we’re just speaking about some numbers he wanna publish he got from his bot
lyric mountain
Either rest or websocket
quartz kindle
you can share the database
boreal iron
While you can, anything visible to the user is also accessible by the user
2nd time that flash back today, you know which one
quartz kindle
you dont need a connection
you run a webserver, and you simply open the same database in the webserver
for example if your webserver is node.js + express.js
just open sqlite in there
and open the same file as your bot
boreal iron
Pay the support invoice before!
By editing your zone file or dns records
Whatever the panel offers
lyric mountain
You buy domain, then assign AAAA or tf I forgot how it's called to the ip
boreal iron
A
lyric mountain
Note, freenom is big trap
lyric mountain
AAAA is IPv6
And AAA is for association of anonymous alcoholics
boreal iron
Wtf 20$
lyric mountain
There're cheaper domains
boreal iron
Which tld?
quartz kindle
a usual .com domain costs 11-15 per year
org domains are cheaper
xyz are super cheap
proven lantern
I have an embed with 2 columns, but discord has 3 columns by default. I add a blank field to make sure the fields show up in two columns, but it takes up some space still and is very noticeable on mobile. is there a better way to make 2 column embeds?
name: "\u200b",
value: "\u200b",
inline: true
},```
boreal iron
Yeah or less if it’s a special offer
lyric mountain
I have an embed with 2 columns, but discord has 3 columns by default. I add a bl...
Ye, that's the only way
sudden geyser
is there a better way to make 2 column embeds?
No.
quartz kindle
I have an embed with 2 columns, but discord has 3 columns by default. I add a bl...
no other way
sudden geyser
so you have more questions to ask us 😛
quartz kindle
it would be cool if discord supported markdown in embeds
proven lantern
oh yeah
quartz kindle
or at least tables
lyric mountain
It'd be cool if discord supported markdown at all
Not that half baked highlighting
Imagine tables
proven lantern
content title and description support half baked markdown
boreal iron
Tables and horizontal lines
quartz kindle
imagine the rich content you would output if discord allowed sending markdown pages
sudden geyser
markdown tables are annoying
lyric mountain
Ngl I use more html tables than md ones
sudden geyser
would a built-in table editor look better
lyric mountain
Cuz better customization
woeful pike
lyric mountain
That's what scratch said
lyric mountain
currently ranked #5 in popularity
Cuz it's cheap
quartz kindle
the cheapest popular domain is .top
grim aspen
Don’t take the cheapest tho
Mine was $2
quartz kindle
at ~4.5 usd (renewal)
boreal iron
Godaddy also is damn good
lyric mountain
Sus name
quartz kindle
.top is ranked #9 in popularity
boreal iron
Some providers rely on external name service providers taking hours until a dns update is live even with a low TTL
Sometimes a day or longer
Hmm which tld do you want?
lyric mountain
Good game
boreal iron
.gg is expensive af
Yeah the registrar owning that shit wants to make moneys of that popular tld
quartz kindle
if you want cheap, go for .top .in .eu
boreal iron
Capitalism, you know
lyric mountain
.club
boreal iron
.net is cheap
quartz kindle
Yeah the registrar owning that shit wants to make moneys of that popular tld
its actually a country tld
lyric mountain
What country is gg?
quartz kindle
.gg is the country code top-level domain for the Bailiwick of Guernsey.
boreal iron
Uh yeah
lyric mountain
There's also .wtf
quartz kindle
quite expensive at 21 bucks
grim aspen
<https://tld-list.com/>
Oh heck I can buy godaddy.co for .01
boreal iron
Omg
grim aspen
What if I just
boreal iron
Took me 4 years to collect all of my xxdns tld
grim aspen
Yoink all domains
lyric mountain
That's what google did
boreal iron
Lots of services buying cheap unpopular domains trying to sell them for big money if the popularity increases for similar domains
grim aspen
I’m planning on making my meme website redirect to my bot
lyric mountain
Lots of services buying cheap unpopular domains trying to sell them for big mone...
Those placeholder sites with 3-4 ads right?
boreal iron
some shitty discord bot took my bot's domain name
I waited 2 times until the one I wanted expired
Like I said just took 4 years
But now it’s mine until I forget to pay for it
lyric mountain
Wasn't there a dude who bough a google domain after they forgot to renew it?
Then sold to them for big money
boreal iron
I heard about that, too
solemn latch
the cheapest popular domain is .top
top.top
boreal iron
Sounds promising
quartz kindle
Like I said just took 4 years <:KEKW:727825308404940800>
lmao
solemn latch
lyric mountain
Do like elgooG
lyric mountain
Buy gg.pot
boreal iron
lmao
I know but once a beautiful day my ddns service gets popular if I ever build a website for it I got lots of domains for it, all tlds
probably never
quartz kindle
lel
i dont like buying domains too soon, because more often than not they will just sit there and be abandoned
boreal iron
But multiple domains from different providers are needed anyways for a redundant dns system
Even if only my infrastructure uses it
Omg I hate autocomplete
boreal iron
How about astroapp?
quartz kindle
most of those combinations are already taken
i bought astro.watch though
gonna do something with it eventually
boreal iron
That sounds like something you can sell to the NASA
boreal iron
I have FINALLY finished so much stuff the last days I still had to do since I moved the dedicated server
quartz kindle
ayy
boreal iron
Yeah finally some progress and some stuff being finished at all
lyric vapor
I need help
sudden geyser
Feel free to ask a question about it
errant flax
any suggestions on how i can i add a delay on a loop?
earnest phoenix
any suggestions on how i can i add a delay on a loop?
For which programming language?
earnest phoenix
You can work with promises:
// Declare a function to return a promise which will lock the code execution until the promise is resolved when you await it, this can be used outside a function but we're doing for the sake of readability and usability in other files or areas as well.
function wait(milliseconds) {
return new Promise((resolve) => {
setTimeout(resolve, milliseconds);
});
}
// Now with the `wait()` function we declared, we can add a delay in-between iterations, remember that have to use the `await` keyword for that to work properly, which can only be used in the top level of modules and in async functions.
for (...) {
// Some code here.
// Wait 5 seconds before going into another iteration.
await wait(5000);
}
lmao
earnest phoenix
yea, you did; just explaining it 
errant flax
lolz
eternal sierra
hey guys
i am just starting out to create my own bot in python, but it seems that i have an issue with ti, can anyone help me out
kek
solemn latch
token leak, please reset your discord bot token
solemn latch
otherwise other users will have access to your bot
sudden geyser
You should capitalize bot
So it refers to the class (https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ext/commands/api.html?highlight=discord.ext.commands.bot#discord.ext.commands.Bot) rather than the module with the same name but different casing.
sudden geyser
At the same time, are you using Discord.py, or some fork of it, like nextcord?
eternal sierra
im using visual studio thingy and ig i am using discord.py coz i installed it in my tetminal
the files needed for discord
sudden geyser
Although you seem to be new, you may want to use something else like Pycord or Nextcord since Discord.py has been deprecated.
sudden geyser
Nope
eternal sierra
ohh
sudden geyser
Pylance (assuming you're referring to https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=ms-python.vscode-pylance) helps you write Python code in your editor.
eternal sierra
yea i am using that in my VS so got confused with em lol
help me how to use pycord bro, imma better dm u
if u have no prblm
sudden geyser
It's more convenient to ask your questions here so others can help you.
eternal sierra
kk
then help me out with using pycord bro
what should i do
i am using linux btw
sudden geyser
You should follow the installation instructions on their website (https://docs.pycord.dev/en/master/). As Pycord is a fork of Discord.py, the process should be familiar.
I haven't used it myself, but I've used Discord.py.
eternal sierra
ohh lemme check it
hey bro btw the code seems to be right now
but bot isnt online yet
sudden geyser
If I had to assume, that's due to a bug in your code (<#development message>). client.run(...) is indented under the on_ready function, which is wrong, as it won't be called until your bot starts (which client.run(...) does, but that won't be called in its position).
The solution? De-dent it (remove the space behind it) so it sits at the top-level.
Python uses indentation to determine scope.
eternal sierra
ohhhh
ahh man thanks a lot, it worked!!
if any doubt i will post it here then!!
earnest phoenix
this is why im never using python
sudden geyser
I don't get why people complain about indentation
You'd still indent it regardless
earnest phoenix
it always runs in a different scope so it won't interfere with other scripts
which is why every single module bundler uses iife instead of directly outputting the code
sudden geyser
The only thing I've seen it used for is top-level async/await
How's it any different than a named function you may only call once
earnest phoenix
var (minified variable name) = Object.someFunction
every bundle has this
which can cause interference
slender thistle
If you know your shit it's not a problem
lament rock
I just stay in my own lane and let people suffer in their own ways. Not to say I'm not suffering from my language choices
stray gulch
I'm going to hate myself for trying to train a neural network for wakeword huh
getting the data is... interesting
split hazel
getting the data is... interesting
this is the part I hate the most
you also never know if you have enough or don't have enough
you have to kind of guess
eternal sierra
whats the error in this
earnest phoenix
Indentation, wrong init naming, wrong thing to inherit, wrong object to get the listener attribute from
woeful pike
are any of yall doing advent of code
quartz kindle
wuts that
simple bough
...
earnest phoenix
Some challenges I guess
novel jetty
Anyone know how i can fix this?
hollow depot
Anyone know how i can fix this?
try channel.type == “nsfw”
delicate zephyr
Anyone know how i can fix this?
What library
delicate zephyr
try channel.type == “nsfw”
that wont work
because the type is like text,voice
nsfw is a boolean
but DM's dont hold that
hollow depot
nsfw is a boolean
oh right
rustic nova
Yupyup
earnest phoenix
lyric mountain
Invite no work
bot not approved yet
rustic nova
-upto
gilded plankBOT
earnest phoenix
bot not approved yet
How aplroved
lyric mountain
read the embed above
novel jetty
@lyric mountain I somehow got it but im stuck here, i tried pretty much everything but cant seem to be able to fix
rustic nova
Not related to me, but probably message.channel
lyric mountain
you didn't define channel
novel jetty
lyric mountain
dm cant have guild
novel jetty
Its not a DM
lyric mountain
it is
add if (channel.type === 'DM') return; above that line
I mean, that's how I think it is to check if it's dm
quartz kindle
type casting
if(message.channel.isText()) {
const channel = message.channel as Discord.TextChannel
}
or const channel = <Discord.TextChannel>message.channel
quartz kindle
its not a getter?
earnest phoenix
Should i lie to my verification assigned person and say that i made it for 30d or I actually implement it? It's too hard and there isn't a straight way to do it as you guys said to me
he can't accept it for 1y (a lie that i made it for 1y)
and has to be 30d
this is the thing to implement
spark flint
Should i lie to my verification assigned person and say that i made it for 30d o...
i wouldn't lie
earnest phoenix
yeah i wouldn't too
but i already did it with a person's advice so i can't say him straightly that i lied
any advice?
spark flint
just say that you've reconfigured how the data is stored
and it auto deletes after 30d
earnest phoenix
that's a lie (?)
spark flint
true
boreal iron
Store the data for 30d only?
earnest phoenix
nope
store the data forever but if the user leaves the bot (entirely and doesn't have it in any mutual servers) delete data after 30d
boreal iron
What's the issue of adding a "last_seen" or "last_usage" timestamp to your data and add a routine removing that data after 30d?
earnest phoenix
that's not the thing
earnest phoenix
store the data forever but if the user leaves the bot (entirely and doesn't have...
that's the thing
boreal iron
doesn't explain why you can't remove the data... as long as user is associated with your bot, not data deletion is required, if he's not anymore, delete the data after 30d
earnest phoenix
how to check if the user is not in any server with the bot
boreal iron
As I explained above add a user last seen/usage timestamp to your data storage, a routine clearing users after 30d but actually before removing the user data, fetch the user to check if he's still associated with your bot - if so don't remove it, if not remove it
earnest phoenix
he's still associated with your bot
fetch always gives you a user's basic info how do i check that? All is done like 1 week ago the thing is the mutual servers or if the user is associated with the bot check
boreal iron
By fetching the guild member the user is associated to to check if he's still a member of that guild(s)
Which does require to save all guild IDs of an user using your bot's commands in your database
which shouldn't be a big deal if you wanna deal correctly with the user data
boreal iron
Ok step by step...
When do you begin to store any user data in your database?
If an user enters a guild (member intent) or if an user uses your bot's commands the first time?
earnest phoenix
tim said that
earnest phoenix
If an user enters a guild (member intent) or if an user uses your bot's commands...
bot's command, i don't have member intent
boreal iron
Alright. Just store the guild ID(s) in your database.
boreal iron
Just the guild IDs the user has used a command in
earnest phoenix
ok
boreal iron
Without fetching all guild members (without the intent) it's impossible to check if a user is still a member in a guild of your bot
earnest phoenix
and then?
boreal iron
But that's not important
earnest phoenix
then I ask for the intent in ticket?
boreal iron
If he's not a guild member of the guilds he has used your bot's commands in (for 30d) data deletion is justified
earnest phoenix
so if I use the bot in a server and then in another and leave in one and I stay in another, the bot will delete data anyways?
boreal iron
Nah as I said, after not using any command for 30d, you gonna check if the user is still a member of the guilds you store in your database, and if so do nothing, if not delete the user data
I don't see an easier way if you wanna deal correctly with the user data
Except just saying you do...
stray gulch
this is the part I hate the most
I made a web page for it using the media recorder api
So I'm just collecting stuff atm
quartz kindle
so if I use the bot in a server and then in another and leave in one and I stay ...
example:
on member join (or on first command), add user data to database, with a list of guilds, for example { userid: id, guilds: [guildid here] }
when the member joins another guild, check if the user already exists, it it does, add the new guild to the list: { userid: id, guilds: [guild1, guild2] }
when a member leaves, remove the current guild from its list: [guild1, guild2] -> [guild1]
when you do this, check if the list becomes empty. if the list is empty, for example [guild1] -> [], then delete the user
boreal iron
That would require the member intent tho
quartz kindle
no?
boreal iron
At least the part of knowing if a member left a guild
boreal iron
You explained almost the same I did
boreal iron
if he doesnt have the intent, then there is no way of checking
Well there actually is
After not seeing the user for 30d, fetch the guild member object of the guilds stored in your database the user is in
boreal iron
If he's still in a guild, no deletion is required
boreal iron
If he's not, delete the data
delicate zephyr
then I ask for the intent in ticket?
ask for the intent and explain your use case
they'll likely give it for that as it's hard to implement without especially at scale
boreal iron
that use case would require member intent
True but the way I mentioned isn't complicated to do at all
delicate zephyr
no
but its not scalable
at all
you'd hit global ratelimit after having to check 60 users lol
unless you did like 1 user per second
which isnt really efficient
the intent would make more sense
since you get it directly from the gateway
boreal iron
That’s about right but I doubt the users using commands at the same time, then not for 30d for example, will all need to fetched at the same time
That may get an issue if the bot is really in 100000s or millions of guilds I assume
delicate zephyr
doesn't really matter, but after a certain scale you will hit that limitation
boreal iron
Yeah that’s for sure
delicate zephyr
even with 2k guilds you could hit that limitation
there's too many factors at play that would risk API Ratelimits, which means it's more of a risk to implement it like that
not saying your idea isn't right, just logically it wouldn't make sense to use it if you want to build for scale
boreal iron
I mean djs should do queueing the requests for him anyways
It could just end up in a short delay before the deletion happens
delicate zephyr
Yea, but still not really scalable at all
boreal iron
But yeah the intent is the easier solution here
delicate zephyr
especially considering you have more than just those requests happening
nearly* all api requests count towards the global rl
send messages, fetch guilds, fetch user etc
boreal iron
Let’s agree to the fact that is plan B if the intent gets rejected for some reason
boreal iron
If he wants to deal correctly with the user data
delicate zephyr
ye
wheat mesa
Can data be saved permanently if the user has an easy way to request a deletion of it?
Seems like something discord would approve of
urban moon
i
just started discord.js
its showin
this
Error: Cannot find module 'node:events'
can anyone help?
split hazel
I doubt they'd care but pretty much all data protection laws request the data has some kind of expiration date
earnest phoenix
ask for the intent and explain your use case
ok asked
earnest phoenix
example:
on member join (or on first command), add user data to database, with ...
thx this helps
sudden geyser
I doubt they'd care but pretty much all data protection laws request the data ha...
[citation needed]
split hazel
time to lie about deleting the data
delicate zephyr
Although the general rule is that you cannot hold personal data indefinitely ‘just in case’ it might be useful in future, there is an inbuilt exception if you are keeping it for these archiving, research or statistical purposes.
You must have appropriate safeguards in place to protect individuals. For example, pseudonymisation may be appropriate in some cases.
This must be your only purpose. If you justify indefinite retention on this basis, you cannot later use that data for another purpose - in particular for any decisions affecting particular individuals. This does not prevent other organisations from accessing public archives, but they must ensure their own collection and use of the personal data complies with the principles.
delicate zephyr
You'd have to abide by that regardless lol, since you store data for users outside of russia
jolly notch
https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-data-protection/guide-to-the-gener...
is it bad leaving billing details on an insecure database?
jolly notch
just address and name and that
jolly notch
We haven't been hacked yet so like it works
split hazel
get another company to handle that so when they have a data breach you have nothing to do with it lmao
delicate zephyr
You know you can be fined hundreds of thousand for a databreach right
most companys that arent huge that get hit
go bankrupt
or just cease existing
sudden geyser
> Although the general rule is that you cannot hold personal data indefinitely ‘...
Do they state how long at most you can keep it, as that looks quite vague
For example, I wouldn't want to delete a user's account because some guy at the GDPR thought they were inactive for too long
delicate zephyr
For example, I wouldn't want to delete a user's account because some guy at the ...
As per the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), any personal data must not be kept any longer than it is necessary for the purpose for which the personal data is processed. This further means there is a time limit on how long customers' data can be kept intact. Though there is no specified time limit.
sudden geyser
So there's no explicit time limit
But still want you to keep it for as short as possible
delicate zephyr
ye
sudden geyser
Seems more targeted towards analytics/short-lived data like a command usage
But long term data like accounts can exist forever
jolly notch
For example, I wouldn't want to delete a user's account because some guy at the ...
Mod logs can exist forever
But then any data a bot holds shouldn't really be deleted as I may leave a server being level 86 and come back a few years later expecting to have the same level unless the server reset it
(websites are different)
simple stump
When attempting to register slash commands and running node deploy-commands.js, I get the message, “Successfully registered application commands.” But the commands don’t appear in the server.
Code: https://sourceb.in/nJ5yRstSKQ
boreal iron
As I already explained yesterday, get rid of that fucking code copied of the djs guide, it's trash, trash, trash
Registering commands over and over again is nonsense, not to say bullshit
Also registering global commands can take up to an hour until they're pushed to all guilds
That's the reason they don't appear in the guild
And registering them over and over again will always cause the same issue and can end up with multiple commands with the same name show up and all interactions will fail
lethal trout
if (data) data.delete();
simple stump
Also registering global commands can take up to an hour until they're pushed to ...
Ah Mb. Ty
simple stump
if (data) data.delete();
data.delete() isn’t a function
lethal trout
data.delete() isn’t a function
even i can read.. that has come even once so why did it come
quartz kindle
how are we supposed to know? its your code
you need to figure it out, first of all console.log(data) to see what it is
boreal iron
sullen tartan
Did anyone has a Slash Command Handler for me?
spark flint
find one online
sullen tartan
I don't find one online
sullen tartan
I don't want to install packages just for Slash Commands
quartz kindle
make your own like everyone does
boreal iron
I wonder what's so difficult to make your own? Nothing different to a common command handler...
novel jetty
Is there anything wrong with this code?
Even though the channel is NSFW, the bot says that its not
if(!message.guild) return
let { channel } = message
if (channel.type === 'DM') return;
var errMessage = "This is not an NSFW Channel";
if (channel.isText() && channel.guild.nsfwLevel !== 'AGE_RESTRICTED') {
message.react('❌')
return message.reply(errMessage).then((msg) => {
setTimeout(() => msg.delete(), 3000);
});
}
tulip ledge
```ts
if(!message.guild) return
let { channel } = message
if (channel.ty...
isn't it channel.nsfw? This should return a boolean
the guild.nsfwLevel checks if the guild is age restricted, not the channel
spark flint
app.post("/deltodo", async function(req, res) {
console.log(req.body)
const userId = req.body.userID
const todoId = req.body.todoID
users.updateOne({
_id: userId
}, {
$pull: {
todos: {
todoId: todoId
}
}
})
res.redirect("/todo")
})```why doesn't that save any data to the db
split hazel
```js
app.post("/deltodo", async function(req, res) {
console.log(req.body)
...
what mongo library are you using?
spark flint
const MongoClient = require('mongodb').MongoClient;
that
I usually use MySQL but we're using Mongo for this project
split hazel
what is $pull supposed to do?
split hazel
im not too experienced in advanced mongo syntax but I'm sure an update query shouldn't require that?
grim aspen
It’s pulling the information needed to a table
split hazel
would be easier to know what exactly the code is trying to achieve
spark flint
its meant to delete the todo id from the database
split hazel
delete the attribute or the document
split hazel
that was a question
split hazel
Is there anything wrong with this code?
Even though the channel is NSFW, the bot...
what library version are you using?
solemn elk
```js
app.post("/deltodo", async function(req, res) {
console.log(req.body)
...
Use the api
spark flint
will do
spark flint
not for what i'm using it for
delicate zephyr
Ah
spark flint
when you click the "Mark as complete" button it needs to remove it
users.updateOne({
_id: userId,
}, {
$pull: {
todos: {
todoId: todoId
}
}
})```thats my current code
old pebble
hi, someone know hot to get member info in JS for a dashboard ? I make it in python, but in JS I understand nothing ,-,