development

[zealous trellis]

14 years ago there werent really a lot of debuggers anyways..

VS Code integrated terminal / debugger wouldve been a pipedream back then

[civic scroll]

also it has watchers too so you don't have to log multiple times to see its states changing

[boreal iron]

That’s correct and I didn’t change my editor my to code with since then

[civic scroll]

that's the convinience

man code for 14 years and still think websites can't fish people' data

[wheat mesa]

I mean 70 years ago it was common to die of polio but that doesn’t mean it’s a good thing

[civic scroll]

it's just unreal man

[boreal iron]

🤦‍♂️

[lyric mountain]

"enlarge ur dick today with 3 easy steps"

[civic scroll]

kuu

[wheat mesa]

I’m really bad with the debugger and I struggle with it, but as I use it more I learn more about it and realize how valuable it is

[civic scroll]

did you ever go into a website

[boreal iron]

U need to be careful today, any word can be used against u

[civic scroll]

that has ads which its hitbox spans entire viewport

[lyric mountain]

🚣‍♂️

[lyric mountain]

basically every anime site lul

[civic scroll]

and one touch redirects you anywhere

[lyric mountain]

or most movie sites

disgusting

[boreal iron]

Learning so much new stuff today

[civic scroll]

also kuu

i can't trust svg conversion anymore

[lyric mountain]

what am i looking at?

[civic scroll]

the logo on middle

[zealous trellis]

Just get an SVG Extension for Paint.NET, or export it from photoshop

:3

[lyric mountain]

you mean the lack of antialias?

[civic scroll]

it was a png, but

i converted it to SVG for standalone use

[zealous trellis]

oh.. you tried converting a PNG to an SVG?

euw

yeah

[civic scroll]

here is

[zealous trellis]

thats never going to give pretty results

[rose warren]

Use adobe illustrator

[civic scroll]

just a simple page with anims

[rose warren]

Either redraw or trace it

[lyric mountain]

also for some reason it gives me abstergo vibes

[zealous trellis]

yeah thats really the only choice, vectorize or redraw it

[boreal iron]

Watch out Kuhubakuwuku it might fish your discord data

[lyric mountain]

like those ultra hi-tech evil companies in movies/games

[civic scroll]

the icon was taken for foreign source, can't judge

[zealous trellis]

phish..

[civic scroll]

i was doing protagonist util

[zealous trellis]

not fish

XD

[civic scroll]

also that HTML file is safe

rest assured

[boreal iron]

lmao you guys don’t understand sarcasm yet it seems

[zealous trellis]

imagine not being able to see if an HTML file was "safe"

[boreal iron]

I always enjoy this shit show

[civic scroll]

i wrote it myself so i know

[zealous trellis]

cuz like, they can totally steal your discord credentials with HTML and CSS... totally

[rose warren]

I work in graphic design. The number of times I've just redrawn a client's low-res jpg logo just to save my own time trying to get a vector file I know they won't be able to provide me...

[boreal iron]

Yes you have to be careful

[lyric mountain]

always remember "enlarge ur d*ck with 3 easy steps"

[civic scroll]

here's what it looks like

[lyric mountain]

so many stolen credit cards

[zealous trellis]

you can actually draw in illustrator? lol I cant figure out how to make a square

lucky you

[lyric mountain]

bruh that's definitely a futuristic evil company desktop wpp

[civic scroll]

the only editor i used was clip studio pain

but that was intended for drawing anyway

[civic scroll]

the HTML file also contains animations too

[lyric mountain]

cool

[civic scroll]

remember to gimme your thoughts

[lyric mountain]

make a login animation like you see when the MC "hacks" the mainframe

[civic scroll]

yeah i have that idea

but

[lyric mountain]

then "Welcome [username]"

[rose warren]

Illustrator is op if can you learn it well enough

[civic scroll]

i know nothing about React

and CSS

[zealous trellis]

I do want to... I hate my shitty 4096x PNGs

[civic scroll]

SVG time

but idk why thr SVGs always fit in the center of the container box

[zealous trellis]

react I can understand why it would be hard, but CSS is just glorified JSON

[civic scroll]

is there any way to snap it down?

[civic scroll]

the thing is

[rose warren]

I do all my sites using SVG or WEBP files. No pngs or jpgs. Stinky file sizes. Ugly pixels.

[civic scroll]

so many things to learn

[civic scroll]

oh, i uh clip-path go brrrr

but because of that

[zealous trellis]

You mean the CSS Rules? yeah, theres probably a few hundred of em by now, but if you use them long enough, theyre pretty simple

[civic scroll]

i can't do shadow effects

it bugged me alot

[quartz kindle]

wdym stinky file sizes, my png icons have < 1kb each

[zealous trellis]

compressed?

euw

[rose warren]

Can't you just use a second object below it and blur filter?

[civic scroll]

for SVG, as described

[zealous trellis]

^^^^

[rose warren]

Like a psuedo element

[civic scroll]

the thing is, the object has opacity lower than 1

[rose warren]

Or just another svg

[civic scroll]

so the shadow is visible

[rose warren]

Just have another element underneath and tweak opacity and blur filter

[civic scroll]

but i just want the edges

[zealous trellis]

blur will take into account existing alpha

so itll be quite accurate

[civic scroll]

like so

[zealous trellis]

nothing wrong there...

[civic scroll]

for SVGs, that's easy

that's an SVG element

designed in Figma

so nothing wrong ofc

[lyric mountain]

figma

[civic scroll]

until you put it

into the main

[zealous trellis]

if you mean that the visible shadow underneith the SVG is making it dark

just use filter: brightness

on the top SVG

[civic scroll]

here's the fail auth interface

[lyric mountain]

looks odd

[zealous trellis]

ngl that red box is pretty ugly

and its not centered

[lyric mountain]

use a triangle and make the whole screen reddish

[rose warren]

Idk. I code everything manually. I use illustrator for wireframes and mockups then make the webpage from scratch.

[civic scroll]

adjustment will be done later

[lyric mountain]

⚠️ <-

[rose warren]

No figma

[lyric mountain]

but red

[quartz kindle]

ligma

[civic scroll]

yeah i will probably change the design later

but as for SVGs

idk

[quartz kindle]

nice

[civic scroll]

i use figma mainly for ideas

[zealous trellis]

gasp there are other people out there who actually write HTML by hand?

lol, all the "younger" devs these days are all like "just use bootcamp" or "just use a WYSIWYG template"

[civic scroll]

here is th main user interfa e

[lyric mountain]

heckin evil company vibes

[civic scroll]

i use a framework as that abstracts alot of thing for me

[boreal iron]

Yee every damn element

[civic scroll]

and i don't have to touch them

i don't need to

[rose warren]

Idk about figma or how it works but what I like about illustrator for mockups is you already have the svg elements ready. You can just copy paste some elements into the site and do the layout in html and css.

[civic scroll]

so a framework works for me

[zealous trellis]

So, are you making a website, a video game, or an operating system

I cant tell

:3

[lyric mountain]

yes

[civic scroll]

maybe yes

[zealous trellis]

< _ <

[civic scroll]

i will see what i can do

after all

it's there

now that i have to learn

but idk the starting point

[zealous trellis]

open source discord bot

script kiddies: hippity hoppity your code is our property

[civic scroll]

if they understand what i wrote

then yes

[zealous trellis]

lol

[lyric mountain]

open sourcing is quite tame if u know how to deal with it

[civic scroll]

but also i don't have illustrator

[zealous trellis]

Ill admit, I use github as more of a glorified free CDN / Backup / Storage service then a versioning tool

[civic scroll]

and it's not free, i'm assuming

[lyric mountain]

github as CDN, upvoted

[civic scroll]

version control is useful ngl

[zealous trellis]

I mean, if you use JSDelivr, cache your github links, it works really well

[rose warren]

Blank pages. I mainly do WordPress. I use my own modified version of a blank theme (i think it's called html5blank or something) but only to have extra functions i use regularly across client sites. Other than the functions file, there's nothing else. Page designs are all blank when i start. Too many agencies here charge a client €7,000 for a WordPress theme they bought like Divi for example and modified. Just seems lazy and less bespoke. I always explain that to my clients and explain my design will be bespoke for them and is crafted from nothing, no templates.

[zealous trellis]

github basically IS a cdn at that point

[zealous trellis]

oh... wordpress, alright I guess.

i prefer writing websites myself

all from scratch

CSS, JS, HTML, everything from zero

[civic scroll]

also the needs for frameworks actually depends on what you want

[rose warren]

And I always hire a copy writer to write the copy properly too

[civic scroll]

if you need the full control of website, you do from scratch
otherwise you just use frameworks as they abstract away the complexity

so learning curve reduced

[rose warren]

Yeah but most of my client base is already coming from a WP site so it's just easier when it comes to importing some content or them just not having to re-learn the interface.

[zealous trellis]

why abstract it away? ive always found it more fun coming up with my own dynamic APIs and CSS/JS Compatibility layers for platforms

albiet, it can be anoyying sometimes

but it improves my experience

[civic scroll]

if i need full control on something

i will do from 0

[rose warren]

💯

[zealous trellis]

[civic scroll]

otherwise, framework is a good place to start

[rose warren]

I have a SAAS side project I'll be building from scratch

[civic scroll]

each person has their own way of doing things

also mac

[zealous trellis]

Ive only ever used frameworks for large scale sites, or when I made one for other people

[rose warren]

But for clients, WP is fine

[civic scroll]

you do frontend right?

[rose warren]

Yeah

[civic scroll]

mind if i ask you about frontend sometimes?

[rose warren]

Sure

[civic scroll]

i just started building this 2 days ago

[rose warren]

I'll always answer if I'm free

[civic scroll]

thanks for the help

[civic scroll]

if for learning, well it's okay

[zealous trellis]

imagine having a dedicated frontend dev to help you

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-falling-fast-gif-18043850

[civic scroll]

i'm just 2 days into it

you had 5 years

:)

[zealous trellis]

2 years*

Ive only actively designed sites for 2 years

[civic scroll]

still

that's alot more than me

[zealous trellis]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Im also like... 16

[civic scroll]

@rose warren mind if i friend you?

i didn't code until i was 17.6

[zealous trellis]

I was basically still a babbling baboon of a child when i first started programming

:3

[civic scroll]

my idea was

it's my world

i can do everything in it

my world, presented in sequences of instructions

[zealous trellis]

yeah the developer-god feeling, I think thats what inspires most devs to get into programming

[boreal iron]

Sounds like a Bob Ross quote lmao

[zealous trellis]

I wanted to create whatever I wanted

so I learned JS XD

[rose warren]

I usually keep friends lists to colleagues and friends but feel free to ping me or DM if you want

[civic scroll]

js was a wack place to start btw

[zealous trellis]

little did I realize 3D modeling / art would give me more satisfaction

[civic scroll]

because you aren't used to strong-type discipline

so debugging in js

might be a pain

[zealous trellis]

yeah but now I have an unusual bond with it, and I can basically use it anywhere involuntarily, I rarely even think about the instructions or operators anymore... its natural... like speaking english, Ive been doing it since I was a kid

[lyric mountain]

strong-type is more verbose but damn I don't regret it

[zealous trellis]

its odd, no other language is the same, C# is nearly there, but I still struggle with it sometimes
JS is just so unnervingly easy

[civic scroll]

silly errors in developement > hard-to-fix errors in production

[lone creek]

😳 any help

[civic scroll]

you can try TS

[zealous trellis]

nah

[lyric mountain]

update node

[zealous trellis]

I tried it

multiple times over the years

[civic scroll]

repl: unsupported JS syntax

[zealous trellis]

and Ive never once had a happy experience with TS

[lone creek]

👀😳

[zealous trellis]

always "FUCKING HELL WHY DOESNT THIS WORK" with TS

[lone creek]

thx

[civic scroll]

TS strong-typed trait helps you write safer javascript

[civic scroll]

hover on the error, read it carefully

[zealous trellis]

Meh, ive been hearing that for years, never once found a good use for it

[lyric mountain]

I found java to be my sweet spot, js just feels weird for me

[civic scroll]

also if you know type manipulation, that can be powerful

[lyric mountain]

although I do program in js too

[civic scroll]

you see, for me, i did a few projects in ts

no regrets

[zealous trellis]

I just found programming in TS to be more complicated and irritating, when most of it was just transpiled back down to the same old JS

[civic scroll]

again, "safer code"

[zealous trellis]

Where

[civic scroll]

better safe than sorry

[zealous trellis]

give me an example

[civic scroll]

two words

[zealous trellis]

I suppose Ive never asked for an example before

[civic scroll]

statically typed

[zealous trellis]

but give me an actual working example

because no one has ever done that before

:l

[civic scroll]

actual working one?

[zealous trellis]

yup

[civic scroll]

https://github.com/sayuriu/Sayumi

there

a working one

[zealous trellis]

.-.

[earnest phoenix]

You sure sayuri is the right person to ask

They a big nub

[zealous trellis]

guess not

[civic scroll]

misty

[zealous trellis]

telling me to go look at an entire repository

of their fuckin TS bot

as an example

like wtf

[civic scroll]

?

man you asked for a "working example"

also the thing is

[earnest phoenix]

I mean it's a working example of ts in action

You got what you asked for

[zealous trellis]

no one has given me a STATISTICALLY WORKING OR EVEN COMMON example of a piece of JS that is "unsafe" that TS does better

[zealous trellis]

I asked for a working example of TS being superior, or fixing "unsafe" js

[earnest phoenix]

Okay one sec

[civic scroll]

it prevents you from assigning wrong types, referencing non-existence varibles and unsafe calls that would otherwise be normal in js

[earnest phoenix]

Pretty shit example but here we go

[zealous trellis]

Bruh... thats reported in a normal linter or debugger

.-.

[civic scroll]

linter doesn't help

btw

[zealous trellis]

does for me

[civic scroll]

try ESLint

doesn't

[zealous trellis]

Ive never once experienced any issues in JS that I couldnt solve in JS

[civic scroll]

you try calling non-existen variable

[zealous trellis]

JSHint can find those

easily

[round cove]

This dude has to be a troll lol

[zealous trellis]

I use a variety of web and modular linters

TS is literally useless for what I do

never found a purpose or reason to use it

[civic scroll]

then this wouldn't have happened

[earnest phoenix]

Thing with typescript is you don't need to use anything extra to get that, it tells you errors before runtime, type mismatch for example can be caught before running the code and a linter can't catch that

[zealous trellis]

I severely doubt that

it reported the error

[civic scroll]

no

[zealous trellis]

I dont see whats wrong in that scenario

[round cove]

Bruh

[zealous trellis]

that function doesnt exist

[civic scroll]

that error occured in runtime

[zealous trellis]

simple as that

[round cove]

This homie actually trolling

Sayuri don't take the bait

[zealous trellis]

No, youre just being a smartass, you could like, actually explain something if someone made a mistake

[earnest phoenix]

The error occured in runtime but ts could of caught it before hand likely if it's a type mismatch

[round cove]

They gave you reasons and you're dismissing them lol

[civic scroll]

in TS it will forewarn you that
Property 'deferUpdate' does not exist on type 'CommandInteraction'. (ts 2303)

[earnest phoenix]

Yep

[zealous trellis]

.-.

thats the exact same error

[civic scroll]

again, forewarn

[earnest phoenix]

But it happens before runtime

[round cove]

It tells you that before you even run the script is the point.

[zealous trellis]

and? thats why you test things?

[earnest phoenix]

So you get it before compile and running

[civic scroll]

you don't test

[zealous trellis]

TS is just a glorified Linter

[civic scroll]

...

[earnest phoenix]

What

[zealous trellis]

it finds errors before running the code
the same thing a linter does

[earnest phoenix]

You're actually dumb I'm sorry

[round cove]

Told y'all lmao

[civic scroll]

TS again is not a linter

it's a compile language

[earnest phoenix]

It's a super set of js

[civic scroll]

it behaves like every compiler language

[zealous trellis]

thats not the point, it behaves the exact same way a linter would

[civic scroll]

eg. C#

[earnest phoenix]

It adds type safety, decorators, interfaces, generics, etc

[zealous trellis]

coolio, I dont see a reason to use em

[civic scroll]

it does better than a linter
because this time it's the compiler that does the thing for you

[zealous trellis]

Im perfectly content with JS

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[earnest phoenix]

No one's saying you do

But if you don't know anything about the language then don't just call it a glorified linter

[zealous trellis]

I dont get the difference... a linter reports errors in code, a compiler language reports errors in code.

[civic scroll]

also using a superset of js with strongly-typed structures makes you more consitent and write better code

[zealous trellis]

semantically, theres no difference in those two behaviors

Im not saying its a linter

Im saying it behaves similarly

[civic scroll]

compiler errors gets reported before runtime and will REFUSE to compile if it finds type errors

[earnest phoenix]

Indeed

[civic scroll]

which means the program won't run at all

[zealous trellis]

I know this.

whats your point

[quartz kindle]

oh boy another js ts fight

[civic scroll]

in js + linter it will just run

until the error goes wack

[earnest phoenix]

Hello guardian of development

[quartz kindle]

hello church of ts

[civic scroll]

imagine not this
but a node error that crashes the process bcecause a top-level syntax wrror

[earnest phoenix]

I've changed to golang thank you

[quartz kindle]

xD

[civic scroll]

tim

[boreal iron]

Thinking about to extend it with PHP

[quartz kindle]

oh boy

[civic scroll]

i will script in lolcode thanks

[earnest phoenix]

Php has no opinions

[zealous trellis]

Honestly I could care less, as long as I get my errors reported before I publish to the build version.

I always extensively test my changes and my code as a whole before I make it public

[earnest phoenix]

Sorry

[civic scroll]

man too stubborn

[round cove]

sure lol

[earnest phoenix]

Sounds like extra work

[zealous trellis]

Im perfectly accepting of its behavior, Im just saying I see no reason to use it

[quartz kindle]

technically its "i couldnt care less" xD

[boreal iron]

[civic scroll]

you can't test for every cases and add caching functions to handle it

i'm just saying i'm not forcing you

plus

[zealous trellis]

sounds like extra work to learn a transpiled language and setup an entire new bot in TS just for some glorified bug reporting and fancy code.

its all compiled to JS in the end

[earnest phoenix]

Sayuri out here breaching ts when they were an avid js user just a few weeks ago

[civic scroll]

imagine you write ES2020

and run it on ES3 machine

[round cove]

omega

[civic scroll]

that's a problem with js

[earnest phoenix]

The fuck you mean it's not really even a new language at all tbh it's just JavaScript with types and some fancy stuff

[civic scroll]

you can't get compability

but anyways, man likes dynamic

[zealous trellis]

did you even read my entire comment

[civic scroll]

let him be

[earnest phoenix]

Yea I did bud

[civic scroll]

we will be expected to see more stupid runtime errors that could otherwise be forwarned

leave the man be

[quartz kindle]

no need to hate on js either

i prefer js over ts myself

[zealous trellis]

ya obviously didnt "bud" because you just said the exact same thing as I did. also, theres a reason I said "transpiled" language, its not a dedicated language on its own.. sheesh

[civic scroll]

if you have strong type discipline, no problem

but for those who are new to programming

that's a must

[quartz kindle]

i dont really agree with that

[civic scroll]

otherwise they will just struggle on relatively easy problems

i had it myself

[earnest phoenix]

I also don't agree with that

[civic scroll]

also dynamic lang makes it harder for me to track types

[quartz kindle]

if you are new to the language, jumping straight to ts will confuse the shit out of you, just like jumping straight to webpack to learn html

[earnest phoenix]

Cause Tim doesn't agree

[slender thistle]

Embrace Python

[civic scroll]

[zealous trellis]

why would I want to change all my code to TS... you guys act as if JS is a broken down car, and TS is a shiny new car.... when both are shiny new cars, TS just has some little dinky parts and extra switches/levers... whatever the hell that metaphor is supposed to mean

[earnest phoenix]

No python has no opinions here

[slender thistle]

Clearly it does cuz y'all are having beef

😎

[quartz kindle]

no clearly php is better

[slender thistle]

True

[earnest phoenix]

I'm out

[civic scroll]

but again, you do you
i could care less about what tech people code in and i can not give an f to it

[boreal iron]

Shut up if PHP isn’t allowed, Python isn’t as well

[quartz kindle]

again, technically its "i couldnt care less"

:^)

[civic scroll]

it is what it is

HOUJUU

[zealous trellis]

half the time its just a glorified debate, but somehow people interpret anger from text messages in a chatroom

[civic scroll]

update the assets thank you

[zealous trellis]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[civic scroll]

glorified

[slender thistle]

Who says PHP isn't

[civic scroll]

sure it is

[slender thistle]

you ok bro?

PHP clearly superior

[civic scroll]

but you will comeback to it eventually

[slender thistle]

@latent heron amirite?

[earnest phoenix]

Php sucks

[zealous trellis]

[slender thistle]

You suck

[earnest phoenix]

No u

[quartz kindle]

you know whats actually quite impressive?

nim

[boreal iron]

It is but we got a lot of weird people in here

[earnest phoenix]

Wanna know what else is quite impressive

[civic scroll]

you know what's more epic?
VSPunk 2077

[slender thistle]

nim?

[earnest phoenix]

The fact a lot of people can speak English and not have a stroke

[slender thistle]

Oh right

Yeah ngl

[zealous trellis]

what the hell are you doing?

[slender thistle]

nim is something... special

[zealous trellis]

executing a fractal?

[civic scroll]

VSPunk

2077

[zealous trellis]

er.. sure

[earnest phoenix]

44% of the gpu on vscode

[zealous trellis]

well go with that

[zealous trellis]

the big question is... whats his GPU

[civic scroll]

running a fractal costs you CPU

[earnest phoenix]

Lol

[civic scroll]

my GPU?

GTX 1660

[zealous trellis]

hehehe

[earnest phoenix]

A 1660

Nice

[zealous trellis]

meh

its pretty good

even in 2021

[civic scroll]

46% usage tho

[quartz kindle]

you would like it, its indented like py :^)

[zealous trellis]

I personally need a litttttttle bit more power

[civic scroll]

render 100 cards async @opaque fern

cool ig

[slender thistle]

👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀

[earnest phoenix]

Seems legit

[civic scroll]

i just need more ram

and a misty qe

and a houjuu

[earnest phoenix]

You can download more ram

[zealous trellis]

Ive got some laying around... want some?

[civic scroll]

and everyone in the team

[earnest phoenix]

Download more ram

[civic scroll]

the freq

[earnest phoenix]

It's ez

[zealous trellis]

https://downloadmoreram.com/

[civic scroll]

the freq is slow

[zealous trellis]

;3

[civic scroll]

i afraid it's not compatible

[zealous trellis]

im cultured

[civic scroll]

@earnest phoenix also

i honestly need a project manager

[earnest phoenix]

For what

[zealous trellis]

RTX 3080 has the highest Price : Power ratio actually... Even compared to GTX cards....

Atleast at MSRP, but like 99% of cards are NOT at MSRP anymore

[earnest phoenix]

I'ma get a 3090 to be like the cool kids

[zealous trellis]

no... dont

[earnest phoenix]

Once money starts growing out my ass ofc

[zealous trellis]

its really not worth it

[civic scroll]

skylark, needs better plan distribution

3090 for mining

[earnest phoenix]

Ha well I suck at planning so

[civic scroll]

[zealous trellis]

literally, its currently holding the #1 spot for the worst price : power ratio of any GPU

[earnest phoenix]

3090 with a threadripper to play Roblox

[civic scroll]

no

to play osu

at 680 x 480

px

30fps

bro imagine

[earnest phoenix]

ima make a virus that deletes osu and then itself from your system

[civic scroll]

ok

get pass

[earnest phoenix]

And it prevents you from downloading osu again

[civic scroll]

login page

[earnest phoenix]

Forces you to delete osu and never download again or else it activates again

[civic scroll]

okay

i will make a virus

that sends math to misty

auto misty repellant

[earnest phoenix]

I will never download anything you send me

So ha

[civic scroll]

i didn't say you have to download tho

[earnest phoenix]

For it to be a virus it'd have to infect my device no?

@drowsy crag

[rustic nova]

@everyone LOL

KEKW

[earnest phoenix]

Imagine that worked

I'd cry

Veld still won't respond to my dm

I'm sad

[quartz kindle]

dming veld is a skill issue

lmao

[wheat mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/diagnosis-skill-issue-diagnosis-skill-issue-draker-discord-gif-22231351

[boreal iron]

Damn just took a look into the convo and all I will remember of ts over JS is PHP is and will stay the superior leader

[boreal iron]

That’s because you’re saying things like this:

Php sucks
That will decrease your social points counter

[earnest phoenix]

How I can delete an attachment from a message?

[rose warren]

You have to delete the message

[earnest phoenix]

[solemn latch]

Does exposing a database publically(with authentication enabled) ever make sense?
I have a database which only will be accessed remotely and am making an api middleman(that's all it will do).
Does it actually matter at that point?

[quartz kindle]

if you have an api in front of the db then no

its the same principle as a reverse proxy

web <https> nginx <http> node
web <https> api <tcp/socket> db

the only time it would make sense is if you have a large project running on multiple machines and all of them need direct remote access to a central db

[boreal iron]

If you have static endpoints like I have for example, nodes of proxmox (VMs), just whitelist them in your database firewall and drop any other connections to the database.
The authorization should be an extra security layer anyways

[haughty bough]

Hello. How do I delete a slash command?

[boreal iron]

Sending a delete request to the API

Or using the corresponding method of your library if you use one

[haughty bough]

Oh, very simple. Thanks

[signal estuary]

I havent seen this error before:

node:events:353
      throw er; // Unhandled 'error' event
      ^

Error: Packets out of order. Got: 0 Expected: 2
    at Parser._tryReadPacketHeader (C:\Users\Flo\Desktop\Discord_Bot\node_modules\mysql\lib\protocol\Parser.js:470:15)
    at Parser.write (C:\Users\Flo\Desktop\Discord_Bot\node_modules\mysql\lib\protocol\Parser.js:33:29)
    at Protocol.write (C:\Users\Flo\Desktop\Discord_Bot\node_modules\mysql\lib\protocol\Protocol.js:38:16)
    at Socket.<anonymous> (C:\Users\Flo\Desktop\Discord_Bot\node_modules\mysql\lib\Connection.js:88:28)
    at Socket.<anonymous> (C:\Users\Flo\Desktop\Discord_Bot\node_modules\mysql\lib\Connection.js:526:10)
    at Socket.emit (node:events:376:20)
    at addChunk (node:internal/streams/readable:311:12)
    at readableAddChunk (node:internal/streams/readable:286:9)
    at Socket.Readable.push (node:internal/streams/readable:225:10)
    at TCP.onStreamRead (node:internal/stream_base_commons:192:23)
Emitted 'error' event on Connection instance at:
    at Connection._handleProtocolError (C:\Users\Flo\Desktop\Discord_Bot\node_modules\mysql\lib\Connection.js:423:8)
    at Protocol._delegateError (C:\Users\Flo\Desktop\Discord_Bot\node_modules\mysql\lib\protocol\Protocol.js:398:10)
    at Protocol.handleParserError (C:\Users\Flo\Desktop\Discord_Bot\node_modules\mysql\lib\protocol\Protocol.js:380:10)
    at Parser._tryReadPacketHeader (C:\Users\Flo\Desktop\Discord_Bot\node_modules\mysql\lib\protocol\Parser.js:478:10)
    at Parser.write (C:\Users\Flo\Desktop\Discord_Bot\node_modules\mysql\lib\protocol\Parser.js:33:29)
    [... lines matching original stack trace ...]
    at Socket.emit (node:events:376:20) {
  code: 'PROTOCOL_PACKETS_OUT_OF_ORDER',
  fatal: true
}

Seems to be an mysqld con. error. Any idea what could this cause?

[lyric mountain]

why when something wrong happens

it's always mysql

[tacit sundial]

does anyone know how to use columns as variable?
await sql.execute("UPDATE savedroles SET %s = %s WHERE userid = %s", (num, role.id, ctx.id)) this gives an error: TypeError: not all arguments converted during string formatting

[earnest phoenix]

cause mysql bad

is there a way to prevent select menu placeholder from resetting upon selection?

like keep the selected option as the placeholder

[boreal iron]

Not if you’re using template queries
You can still use columns to update the data field, for example:

(UPDATE database.table SET whatever = whatever + %i, integer)

Using column names as arguments you pass will not work

Oh nvm I see you’re talking about something else

Well no, this won’t work as there’s no reason to do so
Template queries are made to be used for an automated data type conversation nothing else

You have to write the actual column name into your query

Of course this will work, too:

"UPDATE database.table SET " + column + " = %s, string"

(or use template strings)

((before somebody cries again))

((()))

And yes I know they’re called prepared statements, fu

@boreal iron talking to yourself again?

Yee happens from time to time

leave me alone

[earnest phoenix]

So

I will be signing u up for therapy

[boreal iron]

U should visit one for talking trash about PHP & SQL

[earnest phoenix]

SQL is good

PHP nah

[lament rock]

string concatenation heresy!1!!

[earnest phoenix]

you cant use `` in sql anyway can you

Actually I am dumb

dont mind me

:)

[boreal iron]

(imagine I would point that gun emoji towards you)

Huh wtf where did my gun emoji go?!

Hello?

WTF

[lament rock]

[boreal iron]

What the fuck is happening …. Now it’s there

[lyric mountain]

your gun is gune

[lament rock]

👉👉 hands up

[boreal iron]

One day I will fucking throw that phone away and will nuke my ISP

[boreal iron]

Oldschool you know

There’s no syntax highlighting in npp for template strings

[lament rock]

pretty sure concatenated strings take up more memory since it has it's own entry in heapdump inspector and each string takes a base of 20bytes for alloc

[boreal iron]

Pff that’s just an issue for poor people can’t pay for enough RAM

[lament rock]

it adds up quickly

taking a look at Presences taking a fuck ton of memory

[boreal iron]

You don’t care if your average server has 128 GB

[lament rock]

Not everyone has the money to make that kind of investment especially for hobby projects. Until it turns professional

[boreal iron]

Right. That’s why I said I’m not gonna bother with micro optimization BUT that doesn’t mean I prefer string concating

Using template strings nowadays, too at least in newer projects

For example using shorthand statements inside the template string is a mess in my mind which causes me to string concat the statement

Which is just a "look and feel" issue for me, nothing else

[lament rock]

fair

[boreal iron]

I wouldn’t say professional tbh but server prices are damn low over here

And yeah I can only speak about me, doesn’t mean I generally disagree with what u say

[quartz kindle]

you can manipulate the js engine to get rid of concat strings

[boreal iron]

lmao is there anything you haven’t a solution for?

[quartz kindle]

lmao

its not worth it tho

concat strings are extremely important for performance

[boreal iron]

Huh they are?

[quartz kindle]

for example, building a string with a loop

if you "flatten" the string on every iteration, its gonna be like 100x slower

[latent heron]

^

a lot of it is about just making garbage collection performed as little as possible

[boreal iron]

Makes sense tho if the concerted string is already allocated to the memory

[earnest phoenix]

pew pew

[quartz kindle]

wanna see the code to "flatten" a string?

:^)

[boreal iron]

Well why not can only cause me to hit a tree eventually

[quartz kindle]

xD

[boreal iron]

Very "creative"

[quartz kindle]

also "moving target" "up to date"

[earnest phoenix]

Bro how do you do dat

[quartz kindle]

magick

[earnest phoenix]

teach me the ways of magick

[quartz kindle]

play magicka

[earnest phoenix]

magicka

is this skyrim

tf

[boreal iron]

Because you hate PHP you have to pay for the education services

[earnest phoenix]

shush

I dont

[boreal iron]

Gonna send you over some well educated PHP enthusiasts to make sure you will love it, too after their visit

(wearing a rona mask of course)

[quartz kindle]

does php have an engine similar to node?

that you can run php on an event loop in a cli thing

that would be cool

[boreal iron]

I think you can but you probably need an extension

Not sure if that’s build in natively

[quartz kindle]

imagine people start building desktop and mobile apps with php

give it an electron-esque UI capabilities

since php interops extremely well with html

that would be dope

[sudden geyser]

quit while you still can

[boreal iron]

Shhh we found a gap in the programming market

This will be revolutionary

[sudden geyser]

I exist to close that gap.

[boreal iron]

We’ve got educated employees to make you support our project
See: #development message

wooops pingy

[sudden geyser]

Ah, a baseball bat!

[latent heron]

can't imagine

this is a living facebook moment

[boreal iron]

Regarding your name you must be a little more optimistic

[winged mulch]

I want to scan for NSFW content in videos, however nsfwjs only supports images and gifs. How would I convert videos to GIFs without having to download it before converting it?

[lyric mountain]

Don't need to

It'd result in more processing than necessary

Just extract the frames from the video

About 1 frame every 1 second or so

And yes, you do need to download it

[earnest phoenix]

rip if its a 1gb download lawl

[lyric mountain]

Well, that's the toll for processing video ig

[flat copper]

?

[earnest phoenix]

Is the function embedbuilder async or does it return a promise

[marble juniper]

extract the frames from the vid and scan those

[marble juniper]

rip ur cpu if its a 4k vid

lol

it already takes multiple seconds to scan one large image with nsfwjs

don't wanna imagine how long it is for videos

[earnest phoenix]

Gonna code now

[feral aspen]

How do you destructure this.

var current = result[0].current;

[earnest phoenix]

destructure what

[pale vessel]

const [{ current }] = result;

[earnest phoenix]

destructure a destructure

[earnest phoenix]

doesn't that just get an array of currents?

[cinder patio]

It's the same as result[0].current;

[earnest phoenix]

hm

so how would you get the first element?

second*

[cinder patio]

you can't get the second element's current property

but you can get the second element

const [{ current }, secondElement] = result;

[earnest phoenix]

so basically

thats useless

unless you want just the first elements current property

[umbral lake]

  function check(msg) {
    return words.some(word => message.content.split(" ").includes(word.word))
  }
  if (check(message.content) === true) {
    message.delete()
  }
``` is same as:
```js
  if words.some(word => message.content.split(" ").includes(word.word)) {
    message.delete()
  }
```?

[fringe badge]

Do you guys know any good modules for uploaded file streaming?

Busboy and multer are shit

1st is old and 2nd is not supporting streams

[pale vessel]

Why not

Just call it something else

[cinder patio]

you can't call it something else afaik

[earnest phoenix]

why not

[cinder patio]

it has to be current

[vivid fulcrum]

you can iirc

[cinder patio]

hoooooooow

[vivid fulcrum]

property: variableName

[pale vessel]

const [{ current }, { current: current2 }] = result;

[earnest phoenix]

so its not useless

pog

[cinder patio]

nice

[feral aspen]

Hey, in slash commands, is this possible since I want to make a !deposit command.

I want the user in the first option to choose whether he wants to input an amount or the word all.

!deposit <amount/all>

[feral aspen]

👀

The first option was set as a type called Integer.. but that makes him only input an integer.

[pale vessel]

You can't do that without making the type string or using subcommands

[feral aspen]

Oh.

Sub-commands are really confusing.. god dammit.

[cinder patio]

you can make the amount optional and have a all boolean option which is also optional

[pale vessel]

Or make the amount optional

[earnest phoenix]

you can define a default value can't you?

[pale vessel]

If no amount provided, deposit all

In code, yes

[feral aspen]

Well.. I am reading the official Discord Documentation to get a better understanding about sub commands.

Can you have sub command groups inside of sub commands groups?

[pale vessel]

No

Only subcommands

Why in lord's name do you need that much nesting

[feral aspen]

Idk. 😂

!deposit <amount/all>

I'm trying to do this.. I'll check back in a few minutes to check if I did it correct or not.

[pale vessel]

If you're using subcommands then use !deposit all and !deposit amount <amount>

The base command can't exist if you have subcommands

Cause discord

[feral aspen]

I'm trying to make it like !deposit all and !deposit <amount>

.. or should I use type string?

[pale vessel]

Then make amount a string, that's the only way

[feral aspen]

DIscord..

[pale vessel]

You'd have to parse the integer yourself

[feral aspen]

Yikes.. parseInt()

and .toLocaleString() and some other stuff. 😐

[pale vessel]

Or Number() if you don't want the user to add unnecessary characters

[feral aspen]

🤷‍♂️

Thanks though!!

[near grotto]

how do I set method to post while sending a message through webhook

?

[earnest phoenix]

What are you using to send the request

typically any module would have a post method

[near grotto]

when I'm sending message using a webhook

[earnest phoenix]

Make sure you have the right webhook url

[near grotto]

I have it right

the method is not allowed

the allowed method is post

[earnest phoenix]

Show code

[near grotto]

@earnest phoenix here it is

[earnest phoenix]

Oh you are using discord.js

[near grotto]

ya

[earnest phoenix]

no idea then

[near grotto]

k

[earnest phoenix]

I dont use discord.js webhook client

bruh

Can I not send the discord.js server

[near grotto]

ok

[earnest phoenix]

I'd ask there

this dev channel is a bit slow at responding rn

[near grotto]

ya

[quartz kindle]

which token is that?

[near grotto]

the token in the webhook url https://discord.com/api/webhooks/${WEBHOOK_ID}/${WEBHOOK_TOKEN}

[quartz kindle]

and you're sure that webhook exists?

[near grotto]

yes

I created it

[quartz kindle]

which version of discord.js are you using?

[feral aspen]

Quick question, when I use an args[0] and use its number, I use parseInt for no decimals, right?

Since when I don't use it, it's adding to a string causing issues.

[quartz kindle]

if the user types a number with decimals, parseInt will remove the decimals yes

[feral aspen]

Sweet.

I used to not add ParseInt making it <string> + <number> merging.

I realised it real quick.

I know inputs like args[0] are always strings even if you input a number.

[quartz kindle]

ye

[feral aspen]

👍

[near grotto]

v12

[quartz kindle]

your code is for v13, not v12

v12 is like this

[near grotto]

ohh...what should I write in options?

[quartz kindle]

options are optional, not needed

just that the id and token are separate instead of an object

(id, token) instead of ({id:id, token:token})

[near grotto]

ohhhhh

an code for v13?

[quartz kindle]

what you had should work for v13

[crimson vapor]

v13 cringe

Doesn’t support LTS yet

[quartz kindle]

wut

[crimson vapor]

Doesn’t it force node 16?

[quartz kindle]

16 will become LTS in like a month

[crimson vapor]

Cringe

Can’t they just use typescript to compile down to support 14?

[quartz kindle]

djs doesnt use typescript

only for typings

[crimson vapor]

yeah but typescript can compile JS, no?

[quartz kindle]

idk

but babel can

[earnest phoenix]

you can use js files in a ts project and it'd get compiled down

idk if it would change whats in it or just basically copy it to the out dir

[crimson vapor]

It’s basically the same as putting any everywhere I would think

[quartz kindle]

well feel free to do it yourself lul

i believe someone here actually did

[crimson vapor]

I don’t see why djs won’t if it’s possible

[quartz kindle]

why should they?

they are free to support whatever node versions they want

[crimson vapor]

Yeah but when 90% of their users don’t understand the difference between 14 and 16, it just causes problems

[quartz kindle]

skill issue

[earnest phoenix]

tim

dont become like everyone else

saying skill issue

[quartz kindle]

lmao

[crimson vapor]

Skill issue

[quartz kindle]

most people should be able to upgrade to node 16

[crimson vapor]

I hope so

[quartz kindle]

it was the same thing in v12

[earnest phoenix]

There are still people who use v12

[quartz kindle]

people had to upgrade their node anyway

[earnest phoenix]

million

[crimson vapor]

Yeah but they had to upgrade to LTS I thought

[quartz kindle]

they decided to upgrade to the next LTS

[inland quail]

they are using node 16 features

[crimson vapor]

And guess what
Every single day we had like 3 people come in asking about Array.flat or something

[quartz kindle]

which will be soon

[crimson vapor]

I hope so

[quartz kindle]

im still on djs v12

but using node 16 unofficial builds just for pointer compression

[inland quail]

https://reds.is-inside.me/Heh6HRnK.png

it's gonna be LTS in 2 months

[earnest phoenix]

less then 2 months

[crimson vapor]

hmmm

[earnest phoenix]

month is almost up

[crimson vapor]

How is that less that 2 months

That’s in like 60 days

[inland quail]

26/10

it is 2 months

https://reds.is-inside.me/h5uXXl9M.png

[boreal iron]

He may lives in the future, who knows

[earnest phoenix]

ah right

I misread it

Lawl

why did they skip v15

v14 v16

[inland quail]

only even ones

[earnest phoenix]

Smh

that is oddest

wait v17 is an odd number

wym

[inland quail]

they will remove it when they release v18

[earnest phoenix]

smh

[inland quail]

they only make even ones lts

[earnest phoenix]

so rude

[tulip ledge]

Anyone knows why when I use a specific slash command it doesn't even trigger the interactionCreate event? But when I use a different one it does work

Discord is giving me this error

[lethal trout]

https://sourceb.in/5EJKbtwTet

const fullperms = cmd.reduce((accumulator, x) => {
                                          ^

TypeError: cmd.reduce is not a function```

[earnest phoenix]

In the past that has happened when the slash command you are trying to use id is different then what is registered (there are other reasons but I forgot em)

[tulip ledge]

wdym id?

[earnest phoenix]

when slash commands are registered they are given an ID iirc

[tulip ledge]

So if I kick my bot

and reinvite it?

[boreal iron]

Happens sometimes after editing a slash command and/or restarting a bot

[earnest phoenix]

^

[tulip ledge]

Yeah I didn't touch the code in liek a month

[earnest phoenix]

it re adds the slash command

[tulip ledge]

so idk what happened

[boreal iron]

Nothing you can do about it atm

[tulip ledge]

Bruh moment

[earnest phoenix]

you can delete all commands from the guild can't ya

and just re upload

[boreal iron]

Running the command a few moments later will work again, mostly at least for me

[tulip ledge]

how do I do that

[earnest phoenix]

🤷‍♂️

I dont use slash commands

[gentle sail]

how i change font at this :/

[boreal iron]

Make sure NOT to register the same slash commands any time your start your bot

[earnest phoenix]

How can i select top panel's and button' color with css?

[tulip ledge]

Thats why I do this

    for (const command of this.commands.values()) {
      let existingCommand = existingCommands.find((registeredCommand) => registeredCommand.name.toLowerCase() === command._options.name);
      if (!existingCommand || !this.commandsEquals(existingCommand, command)) toRegister.push(command);
    }

[boreal iron]

Register them only/edit them only if you have changed something

[lethal trout]

https://sourceb.in/5EJKbtwTet

const fullperms = cmd.reduce((accumulator, x) => {
                                          ^

TypeError: cmd.reduce is not a function```

[tulip ledge]

reduce only works on an array

cmd is most likely an object

[boreal iron]

You’re sure commandEquals does it’s job correctly?
I accidentally edit slash commands on each startup, too
Was comparing the fetched client commands with my locally loaded commands and their options and didn’t notice for some time the fetched commands are returning a string null for options while my loaded commands had the data type null in it

[earnest phoenix]

prob not

lawl

[tulip ledge]

  public commandsEquals(command1: ApplicationCommand, command2: BaseCommand) {
    return command1.description.toLowerCase() === command2._options.description.toLowerCase() &&
            this.commandOptionsEquals(command1, command2);
  }

  public commandOptionsEquals(command1: ApplicationCommand, command2: BaseCommand) {
    return JSON.stringify(command1.options) === JSON.stringify(command2._options.options);
  }

[boreal iron]

Stringifying the command options?
They usually return the string null if not set

I mean anyways not needed to discuss about it, you can simply log if an edit happens or not

At least that was an issue for me as I explained

Invalid commands even if they are existing are an issue on Discord’s side atm

I’m sure they will investigate that at some time

[tulip ledge]

Ye so I managed to fix it turns out I patched this bug a while ago in my other project but forgot to patch it in this one

What I'm doing now is removing all undefined properties and then doing checks and then looping over all the keys and checking if they're in the other object

[boreal iron]

Well there you go 👍

[eternal osprey]

how do i check if a message.content includes http, .com, .xyz etc etc

[calm stone]

const express = require('express')
const Topgg = require('@top-gg/sdk')

const app = express() // Your express app

const webhook = new Topgg.Webhook('topggauth123') // add your Top.gg webhook authorization (not bot token)

app.post('/dblwebhook', webhook.listener(vote => {
  // vote is your vote object
  console.log(vote.user) // 221221226561929217
})) // attach the middleware

app.listen(3000)

what is Top.gg webhook authorization?

[eternal osprey]

This guy is ghost pinging lmao

He straight up pinged community managers and deleted it. What a morron.

[calm stone]

[calm stone]

if (message.content.includes("https")) return;

[eternal osprey]

what if i have an array with mutliple words

[calm stone]

if (message.content.includes("https") || message.content.includes(".com")) return;

[pale vessel]

array.some(balls => message.content.includes(balls))

[eternal osprey]

do you know what an array is?

[eternal osprey]

tthanks flaz

[earnest phoenix]

here's a handy regex for that
https?:\/\/.+\..+

[slender wagon]

is there a way i could update nodejs from its console

[earnest phoenix]

Use nvm or download from a packager. The packages aren't always updated though

[slender wagon]

okay

[ocean jolt]

How do I make my bot send a DM to the user who has voted my bot on top.gg??

[rose warren]

#topgg-api check there for examples. On the vote event send a DM.

[ocean jolt]

Uh I can't find any examples....

[rose warren]

In the docs or in the pins

[ocean jolt]

Okay..

[pallid jungle]

const cooldowns = new Discord.Collection();
                              ^

TypeError: Cannot read property 'Collection' of undefined

Trying to update from v12 to v13

const { Discord, Client, Intents, Collection } = require('discord.js')
const client = new Client({ allowedMentions: { parse: ['users', 'roles'], repliedUser: true }, intents: [Intents.FLAGS.GUILDS]});

[pale vessel]

Discord is the default export

You can't destructure it like that

[gentle sail]

hehe

[pale vessel]

Isn't that h2

h2 {
    font-family: CustomFont;
}```

[gentle sail]

okay

[gentle sail]

how if at markdown type?

[pale vessel]

That's CSS

Use the <style> HTML tag

[gentle sail]

okay

[pallid jungle]

@pale vessel I fixed it now i want know how to fix this

throw new TypeError('CLIENT_MISSING_INTENTS');
      ^

TypeError [CLIENT_MISSING_INTENTS]: Valid intents must be provided for the Client.

const client = new Client({ allowedMentions: { parse: ['users', 'roles'], repliedUser: true }, intents: [Intents.FLAGS.GUILDS]});

[shrewd hazel]

Imagine having something called "bracket)

[pallid jungle]

@shrewd hazel where

[shrewd hazel]

Somewhere.

[signal estuary]

I have seen this error a lot and I am wondering what this causes and how to fix it:

    const token = this.client.token ?? this.client.accessToken;
                                     ^

SyntaxError: Unexpected token '?'

[earnest phoenix]

You are using an old version of nodejs

Discord.js v13 needs at least node 14

[near grotto]

my webhook isn't working....it's not showing any error but it's not working also

[pallid jungle]

Somewhere where?

[near grotto]

open the terminal and run npm uninstall discord.js then run npm i discord.js@12

[shrewd hazel]

Somewhere somewhere

[wheat mesa]

node 16

[wheat mesa]

You need to update node

[earnest phoenix]

wait what

[pallid jungle]

Where where the somewhere

[signal estuary]

I am asking for another guy and he is using replit. I think he has to update node version there

[earnest phoenix]

v14 has ?? and ?.

[near grotto]

This is for replit

[earnest phoenix]

try to read that again
you're telling the person to downgrade their djs version

big brain moment

[near grotto]

yes....because replit doesn't support djs v13

it supports v12 or lower

[shrewd hazel]

Open your vbs code

[pallid jungle]

I am in

[cinder patio]

https://discordapp.com/channels/264445053596991498/272764566411149314/878646945193807894

[earnest phoenix]

@signal estuary try transferring your code to a bash or deno repl

For some reason those ones have node v14 installed

[near grotto]

that's the different stuff

[earnest phoenix]

yeah it is

[near grotto]

message event is not recognized in that

[earnest phoenix]

but for some reason you can use node v14 in different language repls

replit team are 5heads

[near grotto]

my webhook isn't sending any message....how do I fix it?

[cinder patio]

what?

[near grotto]

client.on('message', message => {

})```

this is not recognized

the 'message' event

[earnest phoenix]

wtf

[cinder patio]

didn't v13 rename it

[near grotto]

idk

[pale vessel]

messageCreate I guess

[near grotto]

that also doesn't work

[pale vessel]

Check your intents

[near grotto]

I did

[wheat mesa]

Yes but not in that combination iirc, you need node 16 for that

[near grotto]

that version is having many problems

[pale vessel]

Naw

[earnest phoenix]

i cant help but say

what the fuck is wrong with you replit

[pale vessel]

??= needs v15

15 actually

I dunno what needed v16.6

[earnest phoenix]

v16.9

[wheat mesa]

Ah

[quartz kindle]

v69

[vocal trellis]

i am searching people who can install mongodb with authentication on my ubuntu server

[wheat mesa]

Why not do it yourself

[summer torrent]

^

[boreal iron]

_what could go wrong installing a database on a server without any clue especially about networking and firewalls _

Default inbound policy: ALLOW

[sudden geyser]

proceeds to drop database in production

[earnest phoenix]

discord.js related, can someone please for the love of god go to your package.json and just past your discord.js version here? pleasee

[vivid fulcrum]

little bobby tables!

https://xkcd.com/327/

xkcd: Exploits of a Mom

Her daughter is named Help I'm trapped in a driver's license factory.

[boreal iron]

lmao

[sudden geyser]

Bobby's friends with everyone

[quartz kindle]

?

[boreal iron]

If it’s up to date it should be: 13.1.0

[sudden geyser]

XY problem maybe

[boreal iron]

(if I’m up to date)

[ocean jolt]

ok, so I've got the token now...?