development

[green kestrel]

thats some of lugaru

[raw gust]

If I use the mute command or it is reported as lacking permissions, is there a way to check the bot's permissions with the rights of the person who is muted?

[latent heron]

that's not bad source code

[green kestrel]

it is 😄

[latent heron]

that's an atrocity of mankind and programmers alike

there's a difference

[green kestrel]

its completely unmaintainable, unreadable

[latent heron]

one of them has a basic level of being distinguishable

the other one is what i would see my sleep paralysis demon write

and that is the latter

[green kestrel]

http://hg.icculus.org/icculus/lugaru/file/97b303e79826/Source/GameTick.cpp#l7276

go read this lol

i mean thats one of many 10,000 line source files

but the entire game logic, its models, its animations, everything is hard coded into the games C++ code 😄

[cinder patio]

typical for old games

[latent heron]

oh my god

it's so mortifying and bad

[boreal iron]

Looks like a lot of tabs lmao

[earnest phoenix]

how do I fix this repl process died unexpectedly: signal: killed

[vivid fulcrum]

you're running out of memory

[earnest phoenix]

I deleted all my repls

[latent heron]

you know it's bound to be bad when your RAM usage flies up to 90% with it open lmao

[earnest phoenix]

I only have one repl running and still it says that

I don't get it

wym

[vivid fulcrum]

rent a proper vps 🤷‍♂️

[green kestrel]

that one repl is too much memory

or there are too many other beginners using repl

[earnest phoenix]

well I will but for now what do I do

[vivid fulcrum]

optimize your bot's ram usage

[earnest phoenix]

how do I do that

[vivid fulcrum]

🤷‍♂️

don't cache unnecessary things

[earnest phoenix]

well

[vivid fulcrum]

and don't use node

[earnest phoenix]

I'm using py

[green kestrel]

"i cant get food in my mouth"
"use a fork"
"how do i do that"

this is as much a silly question as "how do i optimise my code" - you tell us, your code!

[earnest phoenix]

bruh I mean I don't even understand what you mean by "optimize your bot's ram usage" here

[green kestrel]

make it use less memory

[boreal iron]

How much RAM do you even have?

[earnest phoenix]

8 Gb

[boreal iron]

Brain is still alive. Haven’t seen you for a while.
Hmm haven’t seen Erwin, too for a while now

[vivid fulcrum]

not your pc lol, the vps

[boreal iron]

Would be funny if he repeats that

[vivid fulcrum]

assuming they're using repl free plan

they have 500mb

[green kestrel]

its repl

[boreal iron]

Oh for free nvm then

[green kestrel]

its like complaining theres no space in your home, but then you find out youre on the 'home free plan', which is a small wooden box on a street

@earnest phoenix turn off any and all caching, wherever you can. sorry, cant tell you how, as i dont do python

[near stratus]

Erwin dumped up

[green kestrel]

hey there @boreal iron 😄

[boreal iron]

Dumped up?

Hello 👋

[near stratus]

yea
for some time I thought he's ded
but then I found him in detritus server all activ

[earnest phoenix]

500 mb

[earnest phoenix]

yea

[earnest phoenix]

lemme try that

[green kestrel]

we're preparing to move home, so discord has been lower down the priorities, just keeping triviabot ticking over really till im settled in new place. its got a literal man cave!

17080s cellar with sandstone walls!

[boreal iron]

Sounds poetic

[green kestrel]

dunno how im gonna even get cat6 down there mind

or power lol

[boreal iron]

God thanks I have placed cat 6 cables into each wAll when I was renovating my house and garage

As well as sat cables and others
Found out later I was a genius doing that earlier

[boreal iron]

But all that doesn’t matter if you just have 50Mbit/s upload like me at home
Damn EuroDocsis3.1 but that trash upload cause my ISP sucks

[shrewd hazel]

1PB

[slender thistle]

client is missing "GUILD_VOICE_STATES" intent"

[midnight oriole]

i have a simple python script that draws text n stuff using pillow

but the text gets kinda weird if i run it on windows

like this for example

i think the text gets a bit wider and there is a 12px y offset whenever i draw one

can anyone help me if they have an idea

[slender thistle]

I wonder if it has to do with DPI

Or API calls

[low bone]

Something like that

let maxSymbols=15
let bar="emoji1".repeat(maxSymbols).split('').map((v,i)=>i==Math.trunc((playedTime/duration)*maxSymbols)?"emoji2":v).join('')

Replace emoji one and emoji two
And try
Sry I'm on phone so can't code long one
playedTime and duration should be replaced with your variables

[worthy ivy]

then i display bar in the embed?

[low bone]

Yeah

It will be string

[worthy ivy]

so like

[low bone]

Put it anywhere you want

[worthy ivy]

.addField() the bar variable right?

[low bone]

Yeah or in description

[worthy ivy]

i see

thanks!

[low bone]

or even footer

[worthy ivy]

ill just check what on earth every function does

btw

should it be in like

a specific time?

[low bone]

There's another version but I can't write it since I'm on mobile

[worthy ivy]

not formatted tohh:mm:ss

[low bone]

playedTime and duration should have same unit

Seconds or minutes

And be number not text like 55:44

[earnest phoenix]

you do realize they spoonfeeded you

[worthy ivy]

that is true

but i will be still learning on how it works

[midnight oriole]

doesnt seem like it

[brave garnet]

can i have a fast question here very NOT related to bots? but about development =p

[vivid fulcrum]

yes

[brave garnet]

someone know how to install apple configurator ON LINUX ? wine i have broken btw

👀

•_• noone? ;-;

[green kestrel]

https://dpp.brainbox.cc/buildwindows.html
finally updated my windows build instructions... feedback welcome, after someone who isnt a C++ dev to have a look and see if it makes sense

[green kestrel]

whats apple configurator?

[brave garnet]

for making profiles for ios. official downloads are ONLY for macOS, i found replacement for windoz but have also broken wine so i can execute it lmao

[green kestrel]

sounds hacky lol

[earnest phoenix]

Use brainfuck

I've said my peace thanks for coming to my tex talk

[green kestrel]

you mean ted talk

or is it in texas

[earnest phoenix]

No it's tex talk

Budget cuts had to change our name

[brave garnet]

a little. but app is generally legal. nothing else except wine for linux? or something to install macos appstore app under this linux?

[green kestrel]

no

[brave garnet]

;-;

or other linux version?

[cinder patio]

broken wine?

[green kestrel]

you cant run an osx app under linux, unless its made to run in linux and you have source code to rebuild it

[high crown]

what to do with it.....I'm completely clue less

[brave garnet]

i installed dotnet 40 but when i try to install dis shit it throws that i dont have service pack of dotnet 3.5

[earnest phoenix]

Dotnet 40?

[brave garnet]

so i just have it broken

yep

[green kestrel]

dotnet 4 doesnt replace 3.5

[brave garnet]

prefix both 32 and 64

[green kestrel]

they all install alongside each other

you can have dotnet 1, 2, 3, 3.5, 4 and 4.5

[brave garnet]

yep

[green kestrel]

iirc

[brave garnet]

but shouldnt 4.0 install also previous versions?

[green kestrel]

no

[brave garnet]

?!

wut?

[green kestrel]

theyre like versions of java

having one doesnt imply you need the ones before it

[vivid fulcrum]

the same way windows 10 doesn't install previous versions of windows

[brave garnet]

god. pls no JAVA !!!!!

[vivid fulcrum]

it doesn't make sense

[quartz kindle]

theres already dotnet 5 and 6 lol

[brave garnet]

this ik also

[high crown]

guys pls

[vivid fulcrum]

.net framework is different from .net core which is different from dotnet

[earnest phoenix]

dotnet 40 when

[brave garnet]

dotnet. and service pack 1

[green kestrel]

it kinda does, in that windows 10 has like 90% of the code from windows 95 in it

[brave garnet]

from 3.5

[high crown]

can anyone help me?

please

[vivid fulcrum]

at least it isn't dos based ™️

[green kestrel]

as far as we know

[brave garnet]

all windoz is dos based?

[vivid fulcrum]

no

[brave garnet]

all versions. even 11

[green kestrel]

havent you found that bit of code that hides the dos stuff

[vivid fulcrum]

from windows xp and beyond it no longer runs on dos

[high crown]

can't you read my messages?

hello?

[brave garnet]

wut?

[green kestrel]

windows NT and windows 2000 didnt have dos either

the command prompt is not DOS

[brave garnet]

SO HOW FCKIN CMD WORKS ?!

[vivid fulcrum]

you have a misconception

[green kestrel]

command promot is just uh... a command prompt 😄

[vivid fulcrum]

dos is a kernel

[earnest phoenix]

Magic

[brave garnet]

yep. same as unix and linux :/

[green kestrel]

wanna see something funny?

[brave garnet]

unix - kernel , linux - system 😂

dos - kernel , windoz - system

now u know?

[green kestrel]

this is a hex edit of cmd.exe

[near grotto]

wht to do?

[earnest phoenix]

Do fizzbuzz in brainfuck

[slender thistle]

Br9

Bto

Bro

[brave garnet]

wai... WUT ?

[slender thistle]

If something required is missing

What do we do?

[near grotto]

get it

[quartz kindle]

lol

[near grotto]

but how to get that?

idk wtf is it

[green kestrel]

send the intents you need

[quartz kindle]

which library are you using?

[near grotto]

djs

[quartz kindle]

which version?

[near grotto]

latest

[quartz kindle]

which is?

[near grotto]

lemme see

[high crown]

Need help

[near grotto]

v13

[quartz kindle]

The HyperText Transfer Protocol (HTTP) 410 Gone client error response code indicates that access to the target resource is no longer available at the origin server and that this condition is likely to be permanent.

[quartz kindle]

so you should have a little place in your Client that says intents

[near grotto]

where?

[quartz kindle]

where you create the client

[high crown]

so what should I do? any solutions

[quartz kindle]

new Client()

[near grotto]

can u gimme an example code?

[quartz kindle]

you are trying to download something that doesnt exist

[quartz kindle]

its already in your code

intents are required in v13

[near grotto]

like where and how to require intents

[high crown]

yea some external files.....wait...that means someting is wrong with the path?

[quartz kindle]

show where you create your client

[near grotto]

ok

[high crown]

d should be capital

[quartz kindle]

no lol

[high crown]

in my code it is

[quartz kindle]

that code is not for v13, thats old code

[quartz kindle]

because thats how you defined discord

doesnt mean he did

[high crown]

oh

[near grotto]

what code should I write then?

[quartz kindle]

https://discordjs.guide/additional-info/changes-in-v13.html#before-you-start

[near grotto]

ok

[quartz kindle]

https://discordjs.guide/popular-topics/intents.html#gateway-intents

[near grotto]

thx

[earnest phoenix]

Do they really make you do that long ass definition of intents now

Or can you still just use strings to define the intents

[quartz kindle]

you can still use array of strings

or the entire bitfield and a number

[earnest phoenix]

Oh thank God

[earnest phoenix]

I'll pretend like I know what this means

[high crown]

can't we simply write
const { CommandoClient } = require('discord.js-commando');

isn't that ez?

[earnest phoenix]

If you're using commando ig

[high crown]

or I'm stupid

[high crown]

yea

I use commando

[lone creek]

Any help

[earnest phoenix]

You can destructrue yes

[quartz kindle]

const client = new Discord.Client({
    intents: 515,
    shards: "auto"
})

[earnest phoenix]

Okay

I understand it completely now

I assume that number represents the intents bitfields added up?

[quartz kindle]

ye

[earnest phoenix]

Makes sense

I'ma do it that way from now on so no one understands my code

[near grotto]

it's still showing that fuckin error

[quartz kindle]

show code

[high crown]

hey hey

u know what

[earnest phoenix]

Hey Tim how's your raw lib coming along?

[high crown]

that error vanished when i restared the code

[quartz kindle]

your error says it requires the VOICE_STATES intent

so add it

[near grotto]

how?

[earnest phoenix]

Bro

[quartz kindle]

you added GUILDS

[near grotto]

ohh

yes

[quartz kindle]

add more

you can add as many as you want

its an array

separated by comas

[high crown]

yea

[a, b, c] like that

[near grotto]

it works @quartz kindle thank you 👍

[earnest phoenix]

Just note the guild members and presence intent requires it to be enabled in the dev portal

[rigid maple]

no matter what i do it looks like this

[high crown]

its blur on my pc

[quartz kindle]

struggling with creating a cache, so im mostly writing docs now for the parts that are done

[earnest phoenix]

Ah I see well I'm sure you'll figure it out

[quartz kindle]

decisions decisions

the best memory efficiency is achieved with arrays

but then you cant access caches by id

[high crown]

hey u can't leave space when you are using let

[quartz kindle]

and thats kinda needed in most cases

[earnest phoenix]

Can't you take a page out of djs books

[high crown]

we can

print it out

lmao

[rigid maple]

Hey Tim, if you remember I solved this problem because of you. but now i faced a problem like this

[earnest phoenix]

You could make a collection system like djs has no?

Or just use djs collections

Or is that not what you mean by caching

[quartz kindle]

you changed the font size to 36

you have to change the height to be equal as well

the height is still 30

[rigid maple]

wow

worked

thanks

[quartz kindle]

not exactly

its how you put everything together

[earnest phoenix]

Ah I see

[quartz kindle]

for example djs puts channels both outside and inside guilds

and uses a lot of nested collections

guilds have a collection of channels, which have a collection of messages, which have a collection of mentions, etc

that quickly ramps up to millions of instances of collections, which is extremely inefficient

[steep reef]

Hi I'm new discord user

[quartz kindle]

if you put things inside arrays instead of collections, for example a guild having an array of channels instead of a collection of channels

it would make a huge difference in memory usage

but then you lose access by id

you have to use array.find for everything, which wastes cpu

im trying to go for an intermediate solution inspired by sql tables

but theres a lot of work involved to keep the relationships together

[near grotto]

how to print 'hello world' in python

[earnest phoenix]

Did you really just ask that

[quartz kindle]

print("hello world")

lol

[near grotto]

jk

[earnest phoenix]

Yea sure

[pale vessel]

"How do I console.log "hello world" in JS?"

[earnest phoenix]

Well Tim I hope you figure it out my brain not big enough to help

Lawl

[lone creek]

guys why i got this error every month lol

[quartz kindle]

i put it on hold for now, since its not that important

people can simply create their own caches anyway

[earnest phoenix]

Ew effort

[quartz kindle]

lel

[earnest phoenix]

I'd just use a map and call it a day

[quartz kindle]

i am using maps

and an extended map i call doublemap

[earnest phoenix]

Doublemap

It's a map with twice the power

[quartz kindle]

lel

its a map with 2 ids

for guildmembers for example

[earnest phoenix]

Wait wha

[quartz kindle]

members.get([guild_id, user_id])

[earnest phoenix]

Well okay that makes sense

Wait

Couldn't you just bind members to guild and neglect the need to provide a guild id yourself or?

[quartz kindle]

thats the issue

if you put a map inside a guild, or create a separate map for each guild, with 1000 guilds you have 1000 maps

[earnest phoenix]

Mmm true

[quartz kindle]

1 map for combined guild id and user id, plus an array of member ids inside guilds is more memory efficient

[earnest phoenix]

Yea

It's not a big deal really tbh

Providing the id yourself is nothing

[quartz kindle]

you can easily have methods on a guild object that does it for you if you want

[earnest phoenix]

True but I don't see the point

Alot easier just passing the guild id and user id yourself

[high crown]

hey

when I try to play a specific song on my music bot, it shows status code 410 and when I play other songs, it plays them well

[earnest phoenix]

Hi all

[near stratus]

player.play is not a function

[high crown]

glitch

[near grotto]

how to fix?

[earnest phoenix]

I have a feeling this is copy pasta

[high crown]

it happended with me a lot of times

[near stratus]

GitHub.com/someusernameIforgot/Musicbot

[earnest phoenix]

Yep

[high crown]

juts make a false file in your code, delete it, restart the website and again run the code

[earnest phoenix]

From v11

[quartz kindle]

thats not enough information, you have an uncaught promise somewhere, catch your promises. the error doesnt really help

[near stratus]

Zeriodev/Music-bot (now I remember)

[quartz kindle]

lol

they say in their readme to use another repo

[high crown]

lol

[quartz kindle]

the other one seems to be up to date tho

[high crown]

[quartz kindle]

Androz2091/discord-music-bot

[near stratus]

like they have time to read the README

[quartz kindle]

or effort

[earnest phoenix]

or knowledge

[quartz kindle]

or wisdom

[earnest phoenix]

Or tim

[near stratus]

they have Tim tho

[quartz kindle]

Lol

[earnest phoenix]

No

Tim is gone

Tim should have a special role with how much he's in development

Homie only has a little less than 20k messages outside of the dev channel

75k/93k

[near stratus]

@earnest phoenix there's a package.json code in #topgg-api check it

nvm removed

[earnest phoenix]

Vote Tim for Guardian of Development

[dense spire]

can @slash.slash be put above/with @bot.command so that the command will be added to both slash and prefix commands.

this is for python

[slender thistle]

Try it

[tawdry oracle]

how can i split the message content to two messages when the content is too big?

automaticly

[tulip ledge]

split the string, then check the left if it exceeds a certain number slice it into equal chunks and put it all back together

[tawdry oracle]

how?

[tulip ledge]

I told you how

[shrewd hazel]

Broadcast bot

24H.

Insert lore innit

[jovial nexus]

How can i make a variable for each 5 objects inside an array

[lyric mountain]

you mean extract variables from object?

if so, let {a, b, c, d} = obj

[jovial nexus]

No, i have an array of, for example 70 strings, and i want to make a variable for each 5 of them containing the 5 strings

[lyric mountain]

like chunking?

[jovial nexus]

idk i guess

[lyric mountain]

for example, split 20 entities into 4 arrays of 5

this?

[jovial nexus]

YES

[split hazel]

very enthusiastic yes

[lyric mountain]

there's a way of doing it with reduce, but idk how it works exactly

the way I do is by iterating over the array and creating sub arrays

[dense spire]

Does anyone know where i can find the documentation of the line of code to recieve button responses? Or just a basic tutorial on buttons for python? The button documentation tells me how to make them but not what to do after sending them.

[jovial nexus]

mhmmm

i dont know how that the thing

[lyric mountain]

I can show how I do it, but it'll be java code

[jovial nexus]

i know a little bit of java, maybe i can transale it to ts, but first i need to know how its done

[lyric mountain]

actually

public static <T> List<List<T>> chunkify(List<T> list, int chunkSize) {
    int overflow = list.size() % chunkSize;
    List<List<T>> chunks = new ArrayList<>();

    for (int i = 0; i < (list.size() - overflow) / chunkSize; i++) {
        chunks.add(list.subList(i * chunkSize, (i * chunkSize) + chunkSize));
    }

    if (overflow > 0)
        chunks.add(list.subList(list.size() - overflow, list.size()));

    return chunks;
}

here, better

[jovial nexus]

thank you!

[near stratus]

const limit = 1000
const texts = []
if(message.content.length <= limit){
  for(let a = 0; a < Math.celi(message.content.length / limit); a++){
    let tmp;
    if(a === 0){
      tmp = message.content.slice(0, limit)
    } else {
      tmp = message.content.slice((a*limit), (limit * (a + 1)))
    }
    texts.push(tmp)
  }
} else {
  texts.push(message.content)
}

There's a 420% chance this code won't work but still. It'll automatically create as many arrays needed

[lyric mountain]

but it's really just looping over the master array breaking into mini arrays

then creating a final array containing the leftover elements

[signal estuary]

if (!msg.guild.me.permissions.has("SEND_MESSAGES")) return

He still throws an error that he cant send messages

@modern sable

id 668861966147911700

[lyric mountain]

marco?

[signal estuary]

idk he was on the top on the list and und that there were bots, so I thought there arent moderators on the server 🥴

if (!msg.channel.permissionsFor(msg.guild.me.permissions.has("SEND_MESSAGES"))) return

Now he always returns no matter if he has the permission or not

[lyric mountain]

I don't really know how to explain how wrong that is

but basically, remove msg.channel.permissionsFor

[errant flax]

how to calculate ram in nodejs

[quartz kindle]

lmao

[quartz kindle]

process.memoryUsage.rss()

[errant flax]

thx

why is the number so big

[quartz kindle]

its in bytes

[errant flax]

how do i convert it into mega bytes?

[quartz kindle]

mb or mib?

1 mega byte is 1 million bytes, so just divide by 1 million

[smoky kelp]

Hi! I have an easy question (i think) about javascript:

// INPUT
let array = {};

array["color"].push("blue")
array["color"].push("red")

array["place"].push("italy")
array["place"].push("argentina")

console.log(array["color"])
console.log(array["place"])

// OUTPUT
["blue" , "red"]
["italy" , "argentina"]

I want to do this; use .push in an array but, in a specific argument. Can I do that?

PD: the code that I show you, doesnt work

[lyric mountain]

what you want isn't an array but an object

and yes, you can

howeber you need to instantiate the array before attempting to push else it'll fail

[dense spire]

Does anyone know how to use buttons well in python?

This is my loop for button detection but it simply says that "This interaction failed" when either of the buttons are pressed. I am not sure why.

while True:
    try:
      interaction = await wait_for_component(bot, components=action_row, timeout=30)

      if interaction.component.custom_id == "2":
        cur_index += 1
        if cur_index >= len(embedList):
          cur_index = 0
        await interaction.edit_origin(embed=embedList[cur_index])

      elif interaction.component.custom_id == "1":
        cur_index -= 1
        if cur_index < 0:
          cur_index = len(embedList)-1
        await interaction.edit_origin(embed=embedList[cur_index])
    except asyncio.TimeoutError:
        break

im not getting errors in my console for it either

[lyric mountain]

you need to acknowledge the interaction asap

and a loop? why?

[dense spire]

so the buttons stay active for the time frame and the users can press them as much as they want to navigate

[earnest phoenix]

event emitter internet explorer style

[dense spire]

Im transfering over from using reactions

so I just kept it. Would there be a better way?

[lyric mountain]

buttons have their own event, just listen there

not even reactions required a loop to work

[dense spire]

but then how would i keep track of the index

[round cove]

Give them actual IDs lol

[lyric mountain]

store the pagination object somewhere so you can track its state

[wanton flicker]

how do you ping a role?

[wary flame]

<&id>

[wanton flicker]

oh ok

[dense spire]

then id have to store the data class to hold the max, min and index into a dict with the identifier being the actual pagination object :/
Also how would I allow for time out? So I don't have to permanently store the pagination objects and delete them upon a certain time frame of in-activeness and also remove the buttons while im at it.

the whole point of using the loop was so that I could infinitely have it whilst also allowing for timeout

[round cove]

<@&ID>*

[tulip ledge]

let array: number[] = [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6];
let chunk = 2;
let output: number[] = [];
for (let i = 0; i < array.length; i+=chunk) {
  output.push(array.slice(i, i+chunk));
}
console.log(output) // [ [1, 2], [3, 4], [5, 6] ]

Or with reduce:

let array: number[] = [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6];
let itemsPerChunk = 2;

let chunks = array.reduce((chunks: number[][], item: number, index: number) => {
  const chunk = Math.floor(index / chunk);
  chunks[chunk] = ([] as number[]).concat(chunks[chunk] || [], item);
  return chunks;
}, []);
console.log(chunks) // [ [1, 2], [3, 4], [5, 6] ]

Not 100% sure that last one works tho haven't tested it

[lyric mountain]

either use timestamps or self-expiring maps

like this https://pypi.org/project/expiringdict/

[tulip ledge]

There, now the reduce one should work

[jovial nexus]

<3333

[earnest phoenix]

python makes me jealous

[lyric mountain]

that exists for pretty much any lang afaik

I use it on java

actually, every cache lib will have a self-expiring map

[earnest phoenix]

Can Java scripts run in the browser?

[lyric mountain]

probably, using scriptlets

[earnest phoenix]

weebassembly

[lyric mountain]

while you can embed java into browser it'll result in a relatively big file

that's why javascript was created

[earnest phoenix]

The creation of JavaScheme, colorised

[wheat jolt]

https://i.tusinean.ro/M7W7Rqx.gif does anyone know why v16 doesn't throw the address already in use error?
I've also tried the error event but it isn't fired

[lyric mountain]

try-catch it

[wheat jolt]

it would catch nothing

because nothing is thrown

[lyric mountain]

it does throw, else it'd not say "Uncaught error"

[modest maple]

he's saying why does it work on v16

and not v14

[wheat jolt]

^^

[modest maple]

v16 doesnt raise any errors, it binds twice with SO_REUSEADDR

[lyric mountain]

reuseaddr is the right way to do if you wish to reuse the port

else it'll stay alive for some time after shutting down the process

[wheat jolt]

doesn't v14 use SO_REUSEADDR too?

https://i.tusinean.ro/CLZK34z.png

I'm confused

[modest maple]

Im assuming they're refering to Unix

which you appear to be on windows

[wheat jolt]

ah I get it now

[modest maple]

Linux and windows behave pretty diffrently with how they handle it

im surprised they actually enabled it for windows tbh

[wheat jolt]

the reuseaddr?

[wheat jolt]

this is actually wsl. The v16 is a linux build and the v14 is a windows build, you can see the .exe extension

makes sense now

anyways, now I'm wondering how I can disable SO_REUSEADDR

I just don't wanna reuse the port and get an error when the port is bound

[brave garnet]

can i ask smth now or channel busy?

[sudden geyser]

You can always ask a question.

[brave garnet]

k, thk

from this thingy:

l = []
scam = requests.get("https://script.googleusercontent.com/macros/echo?user_content_key=V1VRkcLy79NqRzGszzki5IwoqgfiRS0CPnpSth1jVdX0Z88w39o7tC71MMkAARMFYXSZIe5ysMkkTdp_V8q-gLFNUefAtxy5m5_BxDlH2jW0nuo2oDemN9CCS2h10ox_1xSncGQajx_ryfhECjZEnA1zRMJcOWhp5p8-TrasYiLfc8s82yHYvncMdEYM4VMzrAWyr3_vgWcPkd2qwPRs1bz0TAVXLS4Dleb--x_lwbJ0QrOacq8a_9z9Jw9Md8uu&lib=Mvhguv8KrjGlroshaZkuz2rjldAiTUHuJ")
Data = scam.json()
for i in Data:
   for key in i:
       l.append(i["put here stean scam: ↓↓↓"])


@bot.listen("on_message")
async def scam(ctx):
    global l 
    for thing in l:
      if thing in ctx.content():
        ctx.delete()

i got this error:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/opt/virtualenvs/python3/lib/python3.8/site-packages/discord/client.py", line 343, in _run_event
    await coro(*args, **kwargs)
  File "main.py", line 37, in scam
    if thing in ctx.content():
TypeError: 'str' object is not callable

is it possible to fix?
PS: friend was helping me so some bugs might be made by him =p

[rose warren]

Looks like you're sharing an API key there 👀

[brave garnet]

its not api key but a database. public ofc

[rose warren]

Ok

[brave garnet]

if ya want - enter there. but it contains mal links to filter

[wheat jolt]

stean scam

[brave garnet]

indeed

so someone know how to fix bug?

or nope?

[sudden geyser]

The error is coming from line 37

but I feel like ctx.content() is not correct

[earnest phoenix]

Does Context even has content attribute doe. Well, regardless, ctx.content seems to be a str object which doesn't implement __call__ method. So, the fix is just don't call it lawl

[brave garnet]

this is correct but this bug is between list, string and word

[sudden geyser]

It's not

[brave garnet]

if != for

[sudden geyser]

ctx is really a Message

[brave garnet]

this type content. ctx is correct

[earnest phoenix]

Ah, lawl, I didn't even realize it's on_message

[brave garnet]

and line 37 at me is if thing in ctx.content():

[earnest phoenix]

Thought it's a command, mb. Yeah, it's a str, you're not supposed to call it

FWIW https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/#names-to-avoid

[brave garnet]

so how to get from db?

[sudden geyser]

Even in the example it's a Message (https://discordpy.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ext/commands/api.html?highlight=listen#discord.ext.commands.Bot.listen)

[earnest phoenix]

It's not the problem with that

[sudden geyser]

and .content is a property—not a method

[brave garnet]

i know this ye? i just want to know how to do it. this one works. now i only have a smol problem with similar with db
this what works alr:

with open("bad-words.txt", 'r') as f:
    global badwords
    words = f.read()
    badwords = words.splitlines()

@bot.listen("on_message")
async def swears(ctx):
    msg = ctx.content.lower()
    for word in badwords:
        if word in msg:
            await ctx.delete()

[earnest phoenix]

Because you don't call the str object

[brave garnet]

?

[earnest phoenix]

You can't do ""()

[brave garnet]

so why this work?

[earnest phoenix]

Because str objects are not callable

Because you don't call the str object

Say ctx.content were an empty string, you're doing "".lower() which is valid

[brave garnet]

anyways - here is a messup i see - im gonna ask somewhere aelse

[earnest phoenix]

They're gonna tell you the same thing though

[brave garnet]

what if i dont want only lower but all chars (caps and not? and numbers?)

[earnest phoenix]

Just don't lower it

Can't you see the obvious difference?

[brave garnet]

yep. in one is lower and in second isnt

and i dont want lower this time

[earnest phoenix]

Well, pretend .lower() doesn't exist

[tulip ledge]

if you dont want lower just do ctx.content()?

[earnest phoenix]

No, don't call a str object

[brave garnet]

isnt that done same as u say virgin?

[tulip ledge]

well I don't code in py as u showed in the example above u did call it

[earnest phoenix]

It's their code...

[tulip ledge]

ohhh

it content a property?

or a method

[earnest phoenix]

Yes, a property

[tulip ledge]

then just do ctx.content

[brave garnet]

without () ?

[tulip ledge]

yes its a property

[brave garnet]

kay... gonna try

gimme a moment

[earnest phoenix]

Literally what Klay and I have been telling ya

[brave garnet]

kay. now works (and i also forgot bout await. like always)

[latent heron]

.content is a property

[brave garnet]

I DIDNT SAID ALREADY THAT AT ME IS DONE?! STAHP TALKIN BOUT DIS !!!

[fleet ibex]

Help my starting my bot

[wheat mesa]

Provide context about your problem instead of saying something vague please

[jovial nexus]

How is the new form of joining a voice channel?
channel.join() does not exist now

[tulip ledge]

You will have to look into the docs of your library

[jovial nexus]

it doesnt exist

im using djs v13

on v12 you could do .join()

[tulip ledge]

https://discordjs.guide/additional-info/changes-in-v13.html#before-you-start

this link shows all the changes

[jovial nexus]

well fuck

now its a external module

[earnest phoenix]

can we clear cache in discord.py while the bot is running

[lyric mountain]

probably

[earnest phoenix]

how

[lyric mountain]

you just need to find out how to access it

[earnest phoenix]

I do know how to access it

[lyric mountain]

and tbf, you can ONLY clear the cache while the bot is running

[earnest phoenix]

wait actually idk

[earnest phoenix]

hm

[lyric mountain]

once you find out how to access the cache, just clear the collection

[earnest phoenix]

with the .clear()

method

[lyric mountain]

yes I guess

[earnest phoenix]

well okay so

first thing how do I access it

like

is it like a dict or sum

[lyric mountain]

you need to find that out yourself

or ask someone with more experience with d.py

[earnest phoenix]

mm

alrightt

thanks tho

[latent heron]

have you considered looking at the d.py source code

it is open sourced

[earnest phoenix]

I did try to find but I couldn't

[digital ibex]

go to docs, look for a github icon in the navbar

[latent heron]

which cache are you looking for

d.py stores all cached information into object classes

you need to be way more specific

and what are you trying to do?

[digital ibex]

(https://github.com/Rapptz/discord.py)

[earnest phoenix]

lemme read that first

[latent heron]

jfc

[zealous trellis]

thank you I'll try it out later today

[earnest phoenix]

well you know the messages cache

how do I clear that

[latent heron]

okay

let me try and explain how it actually works lol

there's a on_socket_response event in the gateway, that occurs when there's a new detected event that is dispatched by the websocket connection

[near stratus]

just kill the process and restart the bot

[latent heron]

when that happens, it dispatches it to an internal class method to call for the right object to have its class data set

the "cached" data changes because of every new event dispatch

you can't really clear the cache if you want the simple answer.

[earnest phoenix]

hm

I see

[latent heron]

the term "cache" is really referring to class instances being set with values from the last declared event dispatch

it's not as you're seeing it

if you want to "clear" cache you can do del ctx.message to completely erase it

but it will then no longer work, and you should only delete for globals.

[earnest phoenix]

hmmm

[latent heron]

it helps if you actually read the source code to understand this that the cache cannot be cleared through conventional methods

[earnest phoenix]

alright I'll read the source

thankss

[latent heron]

have fun

there's about 30 files stringed together to the gateway

@round cove

also

i can't really think of a reason of why you'd really need to clear specific parts of the objects d.py provides

[modest maple]

what are you trying to do

also the gateway handling is in more like 1 - 2 files

[earnest phoenix]

Calling del will only dereference it, though. The object itself will still be cached, no?

[modest maple]

with another file for the HTTP / session handling

[modest maple]

if you want to clear it just dont set it at all

[earnest phoenix]

wait we can set the limit

how do I do that

I wanna set it to 100

[latent heron]

theoretically yes

[modest maple]

the limit is already 1000 why do you want it lower?

[latent heron]

the object class itself will still have been given set values, you're only removing the identifier that points to it

[earnest phoenix]

There's max_messages parameter afaik

[latent heron]

hence why there's no actual "clear caching" solution

[earnest phoenix]

Here's where the container is https://github.com/Rapptz/discord.py/blob/master/discord/state.py#L265-L268

[latent heron]

oh he's using deque that's smart

[modest maple]

You'll find that alot of the libs that arent discord.js tend to be pretty well developed

[latent heron]

alright smarty pants

wait

okay nvm, that's just an odd name

"none()" made me go what

[earnest phoenix]

I have a question

how the fuck does discord calculate intents and what the heck is << >> | &

[latent heron]

<< and >> are bitshift operators

<< doubles IIRC and >> halves

| is an operator to conjoin/combine intflags, & removes?

which is a little funny because in my mind they should be the other way around

iirc d.py does something like default = GUILD_MEMBERS | MEMBER_PRESENCES

but that should be an anti intflag if done right

[modest maple]

they're called bitflags

if you want to learn more

and they are incredibly useful

[latent heron]

mb, used to calling them intflags ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[modest maple]

basically:

FOO = 1 << 0 
BAR = 1 << 1
ALL = FOO | BAR

permissions = 0

if permissions & BAR != 0:  # user has this permission
  ...

[latent heron]

i wonder how d.js coded partials though

[lyric mountain]

<< just shifts the bits to the left

[latent heron]

yes

[lyric mountain]

0110 << 1 becomes 1100

[latent heron]

im sure that means it would double

yeah so it doubles lmao

because that's registering a higher value

[lyric mountain]

saying it just moves the bits to the left/right makes more sense, helps understanding why it exists

[latent heron]

"shift" is in the name for that

class Intents(IntFlag):
    GUILDS = 1 << 0
    GUILD_MEMBERS = 1 << 1
    GUILD_BANS = 1 << 2
    GUILD_EMOJIS_AND_STICKERS = 1 << 3
    GUILD_INTEGRATIONS = 1 << 4
    GUILD_WEBHOOKS = 1 << 5
    GUILD_INVITES = 1 << 6
    GUILD_VOICE_STATES = 1 << 7
    GUILD_PRESENCES = 1 << 8
    GUILD_MESSAGES = 1 << 9
    GUILD_MESSAGE_REACTIONS = 1 << 10
    GUILD_MESSAGE_TYPING = 1 << 11
    DIRECT_MESSAGES = 1 << 12
    DIRECT_MESSAGE_REACTIONS = 1 << 13
    DIRECT_MESSAGE_TYPING = 1 << 14

this is how i wrote mine atm

but im really curious as to how d.js implemented partials for specific intents

[lyric mountain]

you mean like GUILDS_MEMBERS | GUILD_BANS?

[latent heron]

i can't remember

but thinking about it i'm pretty sure that's how they're most likely doing it

[lyric mountain]

they probably just use the bitflags to define what should be retrieved into the partial

[digital ibex]

im still having the formdata issue, does anyone know why its not like getting the form data?

const form = document.getElementById('changeData');
const formData = new FormData(form);```

and formData is just an empty object

am i doing something stupid or?

changeData is a form

[near grotto]

the error is coming when I'm trying to test a webhook using my bot

[lyric mountain]

you're trying to send a request with the wrong method

like using GET on a POST endpoint

[near grotto]

how to send message through a webhook using a bot command

like I added a command to my bot which sends message through a webhook

[lyric mountain]

https://discordjs.guide/popular-topics/webhooks.html#creating-webhooks-with-discord-js

[near grotto]

thx

[boreal iron]

Well watching the MDN docs the compatibility of formdata is a mess. Lot's of listed browser do not support it or got marked as ? which isn't a good flag either.

[digital ibex]

then whats the better option to not manually send data

[quartz kindle]

just because it shows up as an empty object doesnt mean its empty

afaik formdata contents are kinda hidden

you have to use formdata methods to access them

[boreal iron]

Not sure how you defined changeData before but try to use this:

const formData = new FormData(document.querySelector('changeData'));

[digital ibex]

how am i supposed to do that in my backend?

[boreal iron]

wtf did I just copied

[brave garnet]

E.
why this:

@bot.event
async def on_command_error(error, ctx):
    if isinstance(error, commands.CommandNotFound):
        await ctx.send("What was that ?!")
    else:
      raise error

gives me this in terminal instead of message ?!

TypeError: exceptions must derive from BaseException

[earnest phoenix]

It's ctx, error, not the other way around

[quartz kindle]

you're using formdata in your backend?

[brave garnet]

ah, ok, found on stackoverflow. u know

[quartz kindle]

that code was front end no?

[digital ibex]

? nah

[modest maple]

[digital ibex]

but im receiving an empty object

[quartz kindle]

ah

i thought it was empty when like console logging in the browser or something

[digital ibex]

oh na

[quartz kindle]

what server do you run?

express?

[digital ibex]

ye

[quartz kindle]

with multer?

[digital ibex]

is that a middleware?

[quartz kindle]

yes

[digital ibex]

if it is im not

yea im not

[quartz kindle]

then you need it for formdata

[digital ibex]

kk

thank

[quartz kindle]

np

[digital ibex]

wait it says "NOTE: Multer will not process any form which is not multipart (multipart/form-data)."

i jus got bakc to my pc and went on the npm page

[quartz kindle]

is your form not using multipart?

[digital ibex]

nope, application/json

its not for files

[quartz kindle]

oh

can the FormData class even use json?

[latent heron]

i think it can accept json but as raw string

[digital ibex]

idk what u mean, in the body i have that then i have a callback which makes it json

[digital ibex]

not makes the formdata json but response

[quartz kindle]

formdata is specifically made for multipart

[digital ibex]

oh

i thought thats how ur supposed to like

not manually send data

how am i supposed to not manually send data if that makes sense

[quartz kindle]

just do form.submit()

[digital ibex]

:/

okay thanks

im so dumb

[quartz kindle]

form submit will use urlencoded

but thats not much different from json

and express should be able to handle it natively

[digital ibex]

how am i supposed to do it? is it something like js fetch('url', { method: 'post', body: form.submit() .... } ? or something

[quartz kindle]

no

fetch is a manual request

form.submit can be used without fetch at all

[thorn pumice]

guys

[quartz kindle]

document.getElementById("myForm").submit();

[digital ibex]

yeah now im confused on how it sends to the correct endpoint

[thorn pumice]

i need project replit slash command

[digital ibex]

oh in the form tag i use action?

[quartz kindle]

you specify it in the form tag yes

[digital ibex]

action="url" ?

ah alrighty

[quartz kindle]

<form action="/action" method="POST">

for example

[digital ibex]

thank

this is so annoying man

now the preventDefault it not working

document.getElementById('save-btn').addEventListener('click', (event) => {
       event.preventDefault();
       form.submit();
 });```

[sage bobcat]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[lyric mountain]

once you go jetbrains you cant go back

[sage bobcat]

One message removed from a suspended account.

One message removed from a suspended account.

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[lyric mountain]

🚣‍♂️

[sage bobcat]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[digital ibex]

anyone kno how to fix my issue lol

[sage bobcat]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[boreal iron]

Didn't it work yesterday after removing the arrow expression?

I remember you said you replaced the code with the previous version and it doesn't use arrow functions... if I remember correctly.

[lyric mountain]

you forgor 💀

[boreal iron]

nope he also posted a code snipped

[digital ibex]

nope

[boreal iron]

[digital ibex]

oh, yeah it was workin fine

i misread

but i thought i had to use formdata, and formdata would not send any data

its still not reloading the page, and i change it to form.submit and now it sends the data everything updates and everything

but it reloads the page

dub

[quartz kindle]

you have to add a submit event to the form

and preventDefault there

[digital ibex]

wdym

[quartz kindle]

form.addEventListener("submit", event => event.preventDefault())

[digital ibex]

kk

[quartz kindle]

actually

[digital ibex]

doesnt change anything

[quartz kindle]

that will also prevent the form from being sent lol

which means you have to use fetch one way or another

[lyric mountain]

oh, yeah there's that too

preventDefault basically invalidates the event

[digital ibex]

im confused

[quartz kindle]

i forgot that submitting forms makes the browser change pages

so you have to go back to using fetch and manually sending the data

[digital ibex]

?

i dont get it

[quartz kindle]

what dont you get?

[digital ibex]

i fixed it

i just added the preventDefault in the save button

[earnest phoenix]

Hello

[digital ibex]

cuz u said i dont have to use fetch and i didnt understand

[earnest phoenix]

How can i vote for probot

?

[digital ibex]

https://top.gg/bot/probotid/vote

[earnest phoenix]

Thx

[digital ibex]

yw

[earnest phoenix]

What's that?

[digital ibex]

change "probotid" to pro bots id

if u need more help go to #support btw

[earnest phoenix]

Okay

[tulip ledge]

Question, if I make a method on typescript like this:

class Something {
  private onFinish: any;

  constructor() {}

  public start() {
    return new Promise((res) => {
      this.onFinish = res;
    });
  }

  private end() {
    this.onFinish(true);
  }
}

What type would onFinish be and what type would start return?

[lyric mountain]

don't u have to declare method return type?

end() would be void for sure since it has no return

[tulip ledge]

Yes

But start and the private property onFinish

Start would return a promise but with what type?

[lyric mountain]

any

it's a promise of any as it seems

wait

nono, it's a promise of void

no return at all

[tulip ledge]

So Promise<void>?

[lyric mountain]

I guess so

like, you didn't return anything inside it

[sudden geyser]

Start would return a promise resolving to nothing (Promise<void>). onFinish would be a function taking a boolean as a single argument and returning nothing ((bool: boolean) => void?).

[zealous trellis]

hey is it possible to make slash commands that only certain users can access? like developer / admin commands that only show up for specific IDs or Roles

[lyric mountain]

no but you can check which user used the command before executing it

[zealous trellis]

I know, I just... dont want my debug or admin-only commands showing up when users /

[earnest phoenix]

That feature was already planned in the Discord API docs API discussion (https://github.com/discord/discord-api-docs/discussions/3581), so it's not possible yet, the only thing you can currently do is to either wait until the feature is rolled out, or just compare IDs and bailout if it doesn't match

[zealous trellis]

dammmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnit

[digital ibex]

^ i have not fixed it, turns out it wasnt even making the api request at all

[boreal iron]

Registering slash commands for guilds (not global) is a way to limit them to your server only, for example to test them.
A permission system (user/channel/server whitelist) shouldn't be complicated to integrate into your slash command handler.
Returning messages for members without privileges to run that slash command can be ephemeral which means they don't spam any channel, tho.

Even if these options are available in the future I still prefer handling it using your own command handler since editing the global commands a lot of times sometimes brings issues with it.

[quartz kindle]

@earnest phoenixscam?

lol

reset your password

[rose warren]

@earnest phoenix please don't share those links

[torpid tapir]

ive dmed you, mind replying back?

[rose warren]

@earnest phoenix change your password and activate 2FA

[boreal iron]

How can somebody take ur account by clicking on a link?
It’s not like you’re revealing your login data…

[quartz kindle]

the link they posted literally asks you to type your login and password

[boreal iron]

🤦‍♂️

[civic scroll]

@zealous trellis did you use discord v12 with wrapper?

[zealous trellis]

no.

its a fresh new bot

djs 13

[civic scroll]

what ds ver is it

then it must have

[civic scroll]

oh, they can fish alot of data, especially if the connection is direct

[quartz kindle]

how are you running your bot?

and where is it hosted?

[wary swan]

i want to make a O(n) intersection of array function how can i do it in js but i also want to make sure there are not duplicates for example : there is a array of [1,1,1,4,5] then a array of [1,1,2,3,4] i want to make the output [1,1,4] not [1,1,1,4] or something

[civic scroll]

tip: inspect the interaction object if you are in debug mode

[zealous trellis]

Modern browsers are really idiotic at autofill and such utilities. They can phish for a helluvalot of data from you just clicking a link

[zealous trellis]

Its a valid interaction...

[torpid tapir]

replit

depression

[civic scroll]

i said inspevt it

[civic scroll]

just do it

[zealous trellis]

No clue, dont think VSCode can do that

I can console log oit

thats about it

[civic scroll]

VSCode can debug

[lyric mountain]

check if element exists, then delete from the lookup array

[civic scroll]

if you run native js

[zealous trellis]

this is a discord bot

not a website..

[lyric mountain]

oh wait, O(n)

[civic scroll]

...

man

does your bot run on Node?

if it is then it's js

[zealous trellis]

-.-

naw dip sherlock

[quartz kindle]

show your package.json

[torpid tapir]

okay

[civic scroll]

running JavaScript doesn't mean the environment is a browser

lmao

[quartz kindle]

also, do you have a .replit or .sh file? if so show those too

[civic scroll]

you literally are using a runtime to run your bot

[torpid tapir]

ill dm u the json

[wary swan]

yes i was using this but this has problems

[torpid tapir]

mhm .replit

[civic scroll]

@zealous trellis

it's typescript but whatever

still same as js

you can debug it

[zealous trellis]

I dont see why I need to debug the interaction, I can just log it

[civic scroll]

check if said method is available in interaction object

[quartz kindle]

you are literally running the script that intentionally throws an error

[civic scroll]

can you afford to type console.log a thousand times and scroll up the console?

[zealous trellis]

yes?

Ive been doing that for years

works fine..

.-.

[civic scroll]

step up your game

also in debug
you can modify values live

[zealous trellis]

damn kids these days with your fancy debug inspectors, ive been manually logging data for years

and it works

[civic scroll]

"kids"

[zealous trellis]

lol

[civic scroll]

that's a tool

[torpid tapir]

alright ill change it

[civic scroll]

it's really important if you ask me

imagine big data set

keep scrolling forever

but that outta way

by any means, inspect the interaction object

[quartz kindle]

your replit run file should be "node index.js" to explicitly run your index file, or "node ." to run the "main" file from your package.json

[civic scroll]

and check if said method exists

[torpid tapir]

yeah ive did "node index.js" but it sends

internal/fs/utils.js:269
    throw err;
    ^

Error: ENOENT: no such file or directory, scandir './commands/mod/'
    at readdirSync (fs.js:955:3)
    at load (/home/runner/topgames/handler/command.js:7:26)
    at /home/runner/topgames/handler/command.js:14:41
    at Array.forEach (<anonymous>)
    at module.exports (/home/runner/topgames/handler/command.js:14:28)
    at /home/runner/topgames/index.js:30:71
    at Array.forEach (<anonymous>)
    at Object.<anonymous> (/home/runner/topgames/index.js:30:33)
    at Module._compile (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:999:30)
    at Object.Module._extensions..js (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:1027:10) {
  errno: -2,
  syscall: 'scandir',
  code: 'ENOENT',
  path: './commands/mod/'
}
npm ERR! code ELIFECYCLE
npm ERR! errno 1
npm ERR! topgames@1.0.0 start: `node index.js`
npm ERR! Exit status 1
npm ERR! 
npm ERR! Failed at the topgames@1.0.0 start script.
npm ERR! This is probably not a problem with npm. There is likely additional logging output above.

npm ERR! A complete log of this run can be found in:
npm ERR!     /home/runner/.npm/_logs/2021-08-24T20_00_00_464Z-debug.log

very bad

[quartz kindle]

thats not bad

[zealous trellis]

it does not

[civic scroll]

...

path error

[civic scroll]

what's the type of the interaction?

[quartz kindle]

i mean, its an error yes, but at least now you now your files are actually running

[zealous trellis]

slash command..

[quartz kindle]

before your file was not even running in the first place

[civic scroll]

aka. the first few words before {

[quartz kindle]

now you have to fix your issues

[zealous trellis]

CommandInteraction

:P

[civic scroll]

about to go mad

alrd wait

[zealous trellis]

Programming do be like that

[boreal iron]

Use __dirname and not the relative path for filesync calls

[zealous trellis]

makes ya wanna rip out your hair sometimes

or punch a wall

[civic scroll]

okay so <CommandInteraction>.reply()@zealous trellis

[zealous trellis]

yeah?

it works

Im already using it

[civic scroll]

good grief

for the love of god you need to understand inspection

also console.log is a bad practice, leave it

[zealous trellis]

since when

[civic scroll]

since debuggers exist

one click of a mouse

and that's it

[lyric mountain]

2 actually

[zealous trellis]

if console.log was bad practice, consoles wouldnt have a reason for existing

since literally every bash utility logs data to the console

[civic scroll]

1

[lyric mountain]

how tf you would set a breakpoint then?

[civic scroll]

consoles exist for printing messages

not for inspecting

[boreal iron]

Reporting issues to the console also let clients the chance to report them isn’t a bad practice

[civic scroll]

not inspect-friendly

[zealous trellis]

thats literally what Im doing

youre just dragging semantics into it for no reason

.-.

[lyric mountain]

no, you're console logging

[civic scroll]

on the left of line numbers

moment

[lyric mountain]

breakpoints are debug-exclusive

[civic scroll]

[lyric mountain]

another mouse click

[zealous trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/you-dont-say-nicolas-cage-wow-really-no-kidding-gif-5343842

[lyric mountain]

🥔

breakpoint -> debugger -> stops code there and allows u to view where and how it goes
console.log -> logs

[zealous trellis]

I know how breakpoints work... Ive been using VS since 2015

.-.

[pale vessel]

console.log

[civic scroll]

me since 2020 and like

[lyric mountain]

just see me set a breakpoint in this punch card

[zealous trellis]

I just prefer logging something

[civic scroll]

it's easy if you are running native javascript on node

for ts you need deno
or ts-node compiled code with sourcemap enabled

[zealous trellis]

I dont need a TS debugging tutorial

[civic scroll]

huh....

[zealous trellis]

my original problem was that I wanted to cancel an interaction

idk how the hell we went this far off on a tangent

[civic scroll]

my extended problem is that you used it for 5 years and still don't use the debugger

[zealous trellis]

again, I just prefer logging data

dont see the problem

[civic scroll]

fun fact: debugger has logging

[boreal iron]

I’m coding for 14 years and don’t use debuggers so calm

Just because n++ doesn’t have a native one lmao