development

[lyric mountain]

I see the pun there

[vivid fulcrum]

it's just so they don't have to reimplements algorithms that discord is asking for

reimplement*

[rocky hearth]

Im extending the Guild like this and....

cant typecast it

[earnest phoenix]

Maybe TS being drunk there? Try ignoring it with @ts-ignore and see if it works

[rocky hearth]

it does work, but ts is being stupid here.
ignoring it, would make guild of any type

[autumn rampart]

anyone good with distube

const Discord = require('discord.js');

module.exports = {
    name: 'resume',
    aliases: ['r'],
    description: 'pauses a song/nasheed',

    async execute (client, message, args) {
        if(!message.member.voice.channel)  return message.reply('Pleases be in a vc to use this command.');
        
        await client.distube.resume(message)
        await message.channel.send("**Resumed Playing!**") 
    }
}

the resume command does not work

[rocky hearth]

distube??

[autumn rampart]

https://distube.js.org

[lament rock]

ytdl-core-discord gets opus streams by default and for streams which are not opus, it passes them through ffmpeg iirc

since not all yt vids return opus streams

but most do

[rocky hearth]

so using ytdl-core-discord is better than ytdl-core, right?

[long crow]

I'd say same,

[autumn rampart]

any idea how would i fix it\

[earnest phoenix]

yea

[lament rock]

if you're passing them straight into a voice lib, I would use ytdl-core-discord, but if you plan to pass it through ffmpeg anyways for filter support, you should use ytdl-core

[long crow]

last time I used it, always get slapped with the error ECONNRESET both package.

https://www.npmjs.com/package/youtube-dl-exec using this now

[lament rock]

I'd rather just use a web server like LavaLink to handle everything for me (which is what I do currently, but I'm working on re-implementing LavaLink's protocols into a remake of LavaLink in node.js)

[earnest phoenix]

yea, that's the best way to go

[lament rock]

Horizontally scale your apps

[vivid fulcrum]

lavalink is absolute garbage

[lament rock]

It's concept isn't. It's implementation leaves quite a bit of performance on the table.

Dealing with 1GB in prod with < 10 players

[earnest phoenix]

The current implemention is not really the best but rewriting the whole lib would be a good way to go

[lament rock]

which is why I'm remaking it

3s to boot LL and 0.1s to boot mine

[long crow]

Got this too on WIP https://github.com/discordjs/voicelink/pull/1 ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[long crow]

not sure how it'll be

[earnest phoenix]

After rewriting it name it MagmaLink

[lament rock]

[earnest phoenix]

Not sure about the VoiceLink lib thats being developed by the d.js team but it might be good

[lament rock]

I'm competing with d.js team in most aspects it seems. Reimplemented d.js' protocols in a cacheless lib, making my own discord api typings module and now it seems like they wanna make a LavaLink 2: Electic Boogaloo

[pale vessel]

making my own discord api typings module
I'm interested 👀

[lament rock]

https://github.com/AmandaDiscord/DiscordTypings

I need to update it since it hasn't been updated in a bit of time

[earnest phoenix]

Budget LavaLink

[lament rock]

fr

I'm going through the pain of making a ThreadPool

Promise based

[pale vessel]

What happened here?

[lament rock]

Yes

I'm lazy

also, I don't think StageChannels actually have much different data from VoiceChannels

other than type 13

[earnest phoenix]

[modest maple]

Fancy some unsafe in your life ```rust
let success = match layout {
PixelLayout::RGB => {
let stride = width * 3;
WebPPictureImportRGB(picture_ptr, image.as_ptr(), stride)
}
PixelLayout::RGBA => {
let stride = width * 4;
WebPPictureImportRGBA(picture_ptr, image.as_ptr(), stride)
}
};

if success != 0 {
    panic!("fuck, memory error.")
}```

[sudden geyser]

yuck too similar

[lament rock]

rs

[hidden nacelle]

can i make someone unable to use my bot?

[lament rock]

check if the id of the user interacting with your bot is in a blacklist

[hidden nacelle]

there's this guy i hate a lot and he's in a server i'm making a bot for

so i want to blacklist him from using the bot

[tranquil coral]

انا عربي

[digital ibex]

hi so,

anything i can use to like

make the code better?

cuz uh, i have:

rn :/

[tranquil coral]

#ping

!ping

-ping

[pliant gorge]

Pong!

[digital ibex]

#commands

[tranquil coral]

!pong

K

where do you life @digital ibex

[digital ibex]

what?

[tranquil coral]

where you life

[digital ibex]

why

[tranquil coral]

from *

Where you from

[digital ibex]

it doesnt matter

?

[earnest phoenix]

This is a development channel, #general or #general-int for off-topic conversation

[tranquil coral]

I don't speek English

[digital ibex]

btw can anyone help me with #development message

[solemn latch]

use switch cases

[digital ibex]

oh yeah

thank

[earnest phoenix]

Switch cases wouldn't make that any better

[digital ibex]

what would ?

[lament rock]

A lot of the code seems duplicated. Where you use firstNames.*, you can use a ternary for values based on boolean values

Example:

gender === "male" ? firstNames.male : gender === "female" ? firstNames.female : any
// ...rest of code

[digital ibex]

ye looks more clean

will do

u kno what i can with the hundred if statements

?

[limber mica]

case statement / switch Depends on how you name it

[earnest phoenix]

For all of those if statements to see which variables to concatenate into the template string and return, you could basically use the logical OR operator in a template string to make it all a lot cleaner and easier, example:

return `${x || ''} ${y || ''} ${z || ''}`;

[sudden geyser]

yuck

[digital ibex]

yeah alr thank

will do

👍

[lament rock]

Hot take: switch cases don't make code look better

[vivid fulcrum]

just make js functional

🧠

[true ravine]

I agree

[vivid fulcrum]

x.or(y) and make or a global prototype

you should totally do this

[sudden geyser]

(or x y)

[true ravine]

Might sound like a dumb question but if you don't have the guild members intent do you just not get sent any of the guild member related packets (for events like guildMemberAdd)

[vivid fulcrum]

yup

[true ravine]

Epic thanks

[vivid fulcrum]

if you'd like to read more into it, here's the doc link https://discord.com/developers/docs/topics/gateway#list-of-intents

[lament rock]

Object.prototype.or = (value: any) => {
  if (Boolean(this)) return this;
  else return value;
}

get your app flagged as Prototype pollution

[earnest phoenix]

Just open a TC39 proposal for it like a gigachad

[earnest phoenix]

So I made this embed gif on my Discord bot, heres the code:

async def video(ctx):
  embed = discord.Embed(color = discord.Colour.red())

  embed.set_image(url = "https://tenor.com/view/wall-talking-talking-to-self-alone-lonely-gif-5869985")
  await ctx.send(embed=embed)

However for some reason the video is simply loading and loading without actually playing anything, would anyone be able to help?

[vivid fulcrum]

you need to provide the direct url to the image

not the url to the website

[earnest phoenix]

ohhh

alright yeah it works now

[native tinsel]

I need help with something, i made a webhook that sends a command for a discord bot, but that command doesn't work for the webhook bot itself, tho it works for me. How do i fix this? (Discord.py)

[modest maple]

you shouldnt have a bot responding to another bot

webhooks are classed as a bot

so discord.py will ignore them in it's command handler

[native tinsel]

Any way to fix it?

like, i dont want it to ignore

[modest maple]

why do you want it in the first place

[native tinsel]

Its a specific thing , its not like a main bot im developing to become famous

can u help with the problem?

@modest maple

[modest maple]

Tldr no you cant

Come up with a diffrent system

[native tinsel]

Im sure theres a solution

Someone suggested get_command and call it, but how could i do that with the webhook

[solemn latch]

generally speaking this is a bad idea.

if you need two programs to talk to each other why not just do that through traditional methods?

or, if you goal is to make it look like two bots are talking to each other/responding to each other I would recommend doing it through those traditional methods.

[latent heron]

if let 0001..9999 != port { panic!("Port is improper."); }

this is why I feel like nobody should trust me with rust code

[modest maple]

Especially when your port ranges are incorrect

[latent heron]

its certainly a really shitty way of checking if my port is within boundaries

but the webserver is also not planning to extend past 9999, so

[modest maple]

Why dont... You just only accept a u16 size

Instead of usize or other type

[latent heron]

I did that as a really quick and dirty way to check

[modest maple]

Or even check the bit length of the integer

[boreal iron]

@latent heron Could you solve ur issue?

[latent heron]

yeah

[boreal iron]

Alright solved my issue, too
Came back after a break with a damn easy solution I didn’t even think of when I was stuck before

[west spoke]

Is it possible to modify/get user banners for bot accounts?

[boreal iron]

You mean an avatar?

[west spoke]

No

For example, this

https://neko.is-inside.me/jTx3K5jY.png

[latent heron]

No

[west spoke]

Aww

[boreal iron]

Huh wtf is that

Not even aware of this exists

[lyric mountain]

no

bots dont have nitro

[west spoke]

Shame

[solemn latch]

Remember when bots had all nitro features?

[west spoke]

Yes

[boreal iron]

lmao another stupid reason to spend ur money for

[sudden geyser]

It would be cool if bots could set banners

@solemn latch !!!

[boreal iron]

most important thing ever

[sudden geyser]

The !!! was for some scammer post

[earnest phoenix]

bots used to have nitro? huh never knew

[limber mica]

Is there a way to create an invite from a server in the bot.on('guildCreate') function?

[lyric mountain]

Ye, that was actually a hacky way for discord to allow bots to use emotes from anywhere

Then it got greedy

[bright thorn]

am making new esports bot anyone can give me a name for my bot any suggestions

[sudden geyser]

Esports Bot

[bright thorn]

Some thing different

[sudden geyser]

EsBot

[bright thorn]

Last name bot not good

[quartz kindle]

brontosaurus

[sudden geyser]

EsDock

[bright thorn]

yeah

thats good

[sudden geyser]

Dock is a play on port since a port is also known as a harbor (which is a dock)

[pale vessel]

EsFileExplorer

[sudden geyser]

EsFE

[bright thorn]

means esports dock

[sudden geyser]

don't know what that is

[bright thorn]

your library ?

[sudden geyser]

confuzzled

[bright thorn]

what is your coding language

[sudden geyser]

I use a variety.

[placid iron]

wtf

thats all

cya

[limber mica]

Is there any way to create an invite to a server when the bot joins it?

[bright thorn]

yeah

but why ?

[limber mica]

Because i want the invite to be one thing instead of it being generated again and again once ;invite is fired

So i can read it from the database and its only 1 invite all the time for that server

[limber mica]

Thays why

I need to know the function for it

[bright thorn]

you cant do for particular guild

you do for each guild

i am using for each guild

[limber mica]

So in a bot.on(guildcreate) statement i cant do it?

[limber mica]

How would i go about that

[bright thorn]

not guild create

you can make a loop for a command

for each guild

for system channel

[limber mica]

So ‘for each (client.guild) {}’

[opal plank]

@limber mica@bright thorn btoh of you, would highly recommend NOT use forEach

[limber mica]

So HOW then?

[opal plank]

and use for ... of

or for...in

depending what you doing

[limber mica]

Im creating an invite to a guild upon joining

[bright thorn]

 await guild.channels.cache
        .filter(channel => channel.type === "text") //added this line, should work like a charm
        .first()
        .createInvite()
        .then((invite) => embed.addField("Invite link", invite.url, true))
        .catch(() => embed.addField("Invite link", "Missing permissions", true));

[opal plank]

https://phoenix35.js.org/good-practices.html#no-more-foreach

[bright thorn]

you can use this

for each may be dangerous

my bot in 5 guild so i did for each

👀

[opal plank]

dont

thats a bad thing to do

why do u need an invite in the first place?

[bright thorn]

if any error

we got

[opal plank]

you shouldnt need an invite at all

[bright thorn]

in console we can ask to owners

[opal plank]

that'd be breach of privacy

[limber mica]

So when a user does an invite command it fetches it from the database to prevent multiple invite creations

[opal plank]

use the bot to ask the owner or a mod if u can join

why not just fecthInvites?

[sudden geyser]

forEach is mostly used for side effects, but most things in JS are side effects

It's not as bad as people say it is

[limber mica]

Nani?!?!

[opal plank]

idk how they do in d.js, but u can fetch all invites existing from a guild

[bright thorn]

my bot is in 5 guild so i did for each

[opal plank]

something like that i suppose

[opal plank]

second time u say this

its a bad practice altogether

[limber mica]

What language is this?

[opal plank]

javascript/typescript

[bright thorn]

when my7 bot join a server then bot can create a link i can

[opal plank]

WHY do u need server invite

[limber mica]

FOR AN INVITE COMMAND

[opal plank]

and does your bot SAY, EXPLICITLY, it will make an invite for you?

fetch the invites rather than make one

just make one if theres none

[earnest phoenix]

can’t you create one when they acc want one

[bright thorn]

how?

[limber mica]

Ok, i will do that

[opal plank]

let me get the docs rq

[limber mica]

Way it creates it will create a lot if they use invite command alot

[opal plank]

https://discord.js.org/#/docs/main/stable/class/Guild?scrollTo=fetchInvites

@limber mica same for u

check if the size is 0

if it is, fallback to making one

otherwise just grab whichever comes

[earnest phoenix]

smh

[bright thorn]

oh

i got it

[lyric mountain]

Remember to explicitly ask for permission before handling invites tho

[opal plank]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

this

and make sure its noted on ur bot

[limber mica]

So i need to ask the user to fetch invites?

[opal plank]

not necessarily

mention that it does it on ur bots page

so whoever adds your bot are clearly aware of it

[lyric mountain]

Invites fall under sensitive data

[opal plank]

^^

[limber mica]

I log basic stuff such as the owner, name, member count and the owner id for blacklist reasons

[opal plank]

thats why i wask asking both you and puk why you both needed invites

cuz grabbing guilds's invites with a bot for you/other to join is a break of policy

[lyric mountain]

As well as messages, hidden channels, mutual guilds, guilds bot is in, etc

[opal plank]

you should not share/exploit sensitive data from private guilds

[lyric mountain]

Ids, command usage, channel count, etc are fine to log

[limber mica]

I store none of those

[opal plank]

there are loopholes, but i wont mention them

[limber mica]

Only i have access to the data

[opal plank]

if u using it for developing purposes, should be fine

[lyric mountain]

As the owner of the bot you already have access to all that info, you just can't leak them

[opal plank]

anyone on ur "team"(if u have one) should be fine too

just dont use it without explicit permission

[lyric mountain]

Think of it as a NDA

[limber mica]

Im solo ;-;

[lyric mountain]

You CAN use that data, but it must remain secret at all times

[opal plank]

then no need to pay attention to what i said

[limber mica]

I only get publicly viewable data

[limber mica]

Sharing it is not good to do

I dont do that

I dont make those crappy trojan bots

[lyric mountain]

So you're fine

[opal plank]

yeah

just be careful with some minor things

like for example you joining the server for debugging purposes. always ask for permission first via the bot

its not because the bot is there that you have been given permission to join

[limber mica]

Now im going to make a command just for me that does that, thank you for the idea XD

[opal plank]

thats fine

just ASK first

if they say its fine, join

otherwise avoid it

[lyric mountain]

On-site support request command is quite handy if the other end isn't used to discord

[distant cobalt]

setTimeout(function(){ 
    console.log('hi')           
}, 5000);``` for some reason this isn't working. I put this in a while loop and the while loop works but the settimeout isn't. it's not printing `hi`

[opal plank]

wow

[limber mica]

Lol

[opal plank]

while() loop?

[limber mica]

That hurts me

[opal plank]

[limber mica]

[opal plank]

while() can be dangerous

[distant cobalt]

huh

[opal plank]

anyway

u should use fat arrow

since you technically calling an anon function

or, trying to, at least

[distant cobalt]

like this? =>

[opal plank]

yeah

[boreal iron]

I would say JavaScript is dangerous not the loop but hey…

[opal plank]

() => {console.log()}

[lament rock]

@earnest phoenix it begins

[limber mica]

Hey erwin, how do i calculate usr count? Do i just send the calculations across all the shards and just go from there?

[opal plank]

not technically wrong

[opal plank]

that you'd have to check in the docs

[distant cobalt]

ok

[opal plank]

broadcastEval i think?

i use a different lib(which is a lot better than djs)

so for me, i just loop through the shards

[limber mica]

What is it…

[earnest phoenix]

[distant cobalt]

i did this js setTimeout(function() => { everything had red lines

[limber mica]

Close the function???

[opal plank]

for me its this simple

[distant cobalt]

i did

that's just one line

[opal plank]

detritus.js

users is memberCount
_users is just all the users CACHED

[limber mica]

What nakes it better?

[opal plank]

literally everything

[lament rock]

Trying to decode a stream to get a length is painful as fuck. The lib I'm using is able to decode this info VERY quickly for mp3 and mp4, but vorbis kinda causes it to wait for the stream to end which takes a long time and wastes bandwidth.

[opal plank]

@limber mica #development message read that

[lyric mountain]

Using semicolon even when optional, good boy/girl

[distant cobalt]

the red line on the => and it says js '{' expected.

[opal plank]

who wouldnt

told you not to use that tho

just fat arrow

[lament rock]

I need to investigate if a single frame of a chunk supplies enough metadata

[lyric mountain]

The only lang I don't use semis is groovy

Because it yells at me when I use em

[earnest phoenix]

Damn, if it actually waits until the stream ends; its kinda unpog

[lament rock]

Very. More research required

I need to make this as efficient as possible

[opal plank]

function(){} is just a nameless function, which is basically an anon function, but its declared
() => {} is also a nameless function, but it does not get declared and cant be called again(unless assigned to a variable)

basically , use-case

if u need a function multiple times, use function

if u need it once, use fat arrow

there ARE execptions for this rule

such as using this

but thats not something you'll likely use for a while

[limber mica]

Dammit @opal plank why did’nt you tell me this existed earlier

[opal plank]

i literally say this every 5 minutes

see @earnest phoenix ?

i should say it MORE often

[earnest phoenix]

Good luck on finding a way to get the info without waiting for the stream to end, gotta use another lib I guess

[opal plank]

so people see it

[lyric mountain]

Chances are you'll never use this unless going into oop

[opal plank]

[earnest phoenix]

[lyric mountain]

So if you find yourself having to use it you're in the right path

[lament rock]

Nah. Could probably route the input stream into another readable and limit how many chunks are piped to the readable

[opal plank]

i have some links if u interested

[earnest phoenix]

that might work actually

[lament rock]

Time to test

[limber mica]

Send em please

[opal plank]

sure, sec

[distant cobalt]

TypeError [INVALID_TYPE]: Supplied data.type is not a valid MessageComponentType.```
what does this mean?

[opal plank]

• docs http://detritusjs.com/
• cake's good bot code https://github.com/cakedan/notsobot.ts/tree/master/
• erwin's basic bot https://github.com/erwin1234777/detritus-example
• server invite https://discord.gg/gAv6TYuR
• theres also millions's slash command bot https://github.com/Million900o/slash-command-bot

[opal plank]

you probably trying dropdowns, arent u?

looks like you trying to send them in a lib that doesnt have support for them yet

[distant cobalt]

wdym

[opal plank]

MessageComponentType

[distant cobalt]

you mean the masked link?

[opal plank]

this implies you trying to use dropdowns or buttons

what?

[distant cobalt]

no

[errant flax]

what r dropdowns

[opal plank]

Message's now have Components

[errant flax]

never heard of it

[opal plank]

which have types

[distant cobalt]

i already know how to do it

[opal plank]

@errant flax ^^

[errant flax]

oh select menus

[distant cobalt]

ohh

[opal plank]

technically they are dropdowns, but yeah

the actual name is Select Menus

technically

[opal plank]

but yeah, either u or someone is sending a dropdown message, most likely

you havent given the rest of the trace

so i cant tell

[limber mica]

How the hell, and how do you do slash commands?

[opal plank]

theres a whole slashClient which has its commandHandler for slashcommands

[errant flax]

that isnt slash commands

[opal plank]

ik it isnt

im talçking to infinity dev

[limber mica]

Is this the npm package https://www.npmjs.com/package/discord-slash-commands-client

[opal plank]

ew

no

just detritus-client

npm i detritus-client@beta

thats all u need

[limber mica]

Im talking for slash commands

[opal plank]

look at my screenshot

[limber mica]

Im built on disc.js

[opal plank]

those ARE slash commands

like i said, i dont know how to do them in dsicord.js, i use detritus

which has a command handler built in for it

both for normal commands and slash commands

[opal plank]

this pic shows one example of it

[limber mica]

I will figure it out

Or not use it :)

[opal plank]

or you could switch libs while ur app is small

[errant flax]

imagine switching libs on a big app

[limber mica]

Its not that small…

[opal plank]

wouldnt be that problematic tbh

probably about a day or two of work

[limber mica]

Major issues

[opal plank]

most methods are the same

same structure too

[errant flax]

imagine switching languages on a big app

[opal plank]

<client>.guilds.cache
<client>.channels.cache
<client>.users.cache
<message>.reply()
<.message>.author
<message>.member

all that stuff u normally use is there

[limber mica]

Is deterius type script?

[opal plank]

most you'd have to do is switch <channel>.send() to <channel>.createMessage()
and thats about it

it is, but can be used in js just fine

so you can abuse the typescript if u want

everything is typed

[limber mica]

Im too lazy to switch

Discord.js works just fine for me :)

[lyric mountain]

Did it in the last 3 days lul

[limber mica]

Look who is here

Million

[lyric mountain]

Switched the script engine for my tcg

From beanshell to groovy

[crimson vapor]

aaaaaaa
https://github.com/Million900o/slash-command-bot
I kinda fucked with the structure to not copy and paste code but it still is an example

[errant flax]

imagine deleting ur app

[limber mica]

Good choice

[opal plank]

look at this shit

getting feedback as you type

[lyric mountain]

"only" 485 effects rewritten

[opal plank]

[lyric mountain]

Erwin don't be horni for intellisense

[opal plank]

i do be horni for intellisense

[limber mica]

Lol

[opal plank]

and u cant stop me nor my horniness

[limber mica]

IntelliJ go brr

Ima ho to bed now

Ight night

[opal plank]

enjoy non-coding time

[limber mica]

Finally sweet release from caffeine for 2-4 hours

[opal plank]

switch to detritus or be forever stuck with the nodepad level devs

[limber mica]

Never

[opal plank]

now we run before voltrex and company comes screeching at me for advertising it

[limber mica]

Lol

No sleep development is ehat puts infinity in my name

It never ends

😢

Help me

[lyric mountain]

Everyone gangsta until you meet context auto-complete and javadocs

[opal plank]

who needs docs anyway

intellisense ftw

[limber mica]

Docs are for nerds

And newbies

[opal plank]

detritus do need to up its docs/examples games tho. But its good that cake is focused on bringing out new features and improving the lib instead

for those who use it(me included), its much better a dev that works on actually getting shit done than a bunch of devs that do whatever the fuck this is

||the bait has been set, now we run||

[clear marlin]

they put a hella lot of effort on the discord.js documentation

[crimson vapor]

true

[opal plank]

and almost none on the lib

[crimson vapor]

looks like shit now tho

[opal plank]

^^

[clear marlin]

nah, I tend to like it

but still Erwin, however good detritus maybe, discord.js will always remain on the top

[opal plank]

as "top" i hope you mean in userbase, not as in quality

[prime mist]

I'm all for it. Being on top means supporting Javascript beginners lol.

[opal plank]

thats my selling point a lot of times

ts helps begginers

js is too flexible

and detritus offers command handler out of the gate

its greatly reduces ur struggles in actually making a bot

focusing on the functionality of ur bot rather than the structure

worst case scenario you have people doing a massive chain of
<client>.add(command)
instead of
else/if command === 'command';

but that still has its gains since the library would handle ratelimits, cooldowns, all that jaz already

how many times have u seen people do <client>.cooldowns coming here saying with an error that cooldowns is undefined or something of the sort. At its core, ts is just another helping tool to catch bugs as you write code, rather than waiting for that error to pop up

this is more of a TS/detritus combo than just detritus tbh

typescript, while annoying a lot of the times, is a good long term investment for devs

[drifting shell]

Is erwin advertising detritus to everyone again

[opal plank]

specially if they plan to switch to strong typed langs in the future

[opal plank]

always

[drifting shell]

Time to bonk erwin

[clear marlin]

Well, tbh userbase does play an important role in software. Discord.js has a large userbase, leading to people making guides or example bots etc. This helps new end users, to create a bot in discord.js, by referring to all of those guides and the extensive documentation discord.js has.

[opal plank]

in terms of documentation, you right, but documentation doesnt necessarily correlate to userbase

specially cuz most of the userbase abuses from it, and doesnt contribute

say, for example, detritus would have the same layout and examples as discord.js

now what?

which of the libs is "better" ?

discord.js cuz it has more users?

or detritus because it has more quality?

by quality i mean both QoL and optimizations

[clear marlin]

detritus is better, in terms of quality.

[opal plank]

mst of the stuff in guides is already covered internally by detritus

take for example, music bots, slash commands, command handling, that sort of thing

[limber mica]

I may switch to detritus, but what makes it complicated is my event handler and all that

[opal plank]

that'd generally be the most

[clear marlin]

But if we talk about beginners, people who want to try out the discord api for the first time. Discord.js always reigns first.

[opal plank]

ontop of it, you'd have wrappers n stuff

[opal plank]

this is where i'd like to argue

in a perfect world, where both detritus and d.js have the same docs quality

why would discordjs be better

not with guides

just purely docs

[clear marlin]

As I said, detritus is as good.

[prime mist]

Beginners will use whatever pops up first on Google.

[clear marlin]

but discord.js just has an ample amount of guides, examples and articles on the internet

just what tim said

[opal plank]

also, dont take this wrongly, trying to gather data so we can possibly improve what we got so far

not arguing for the sake of it(though i am)

[clear marlin]

nah, its fine.

[opal plank]

it just doesnt fit in my mind that, if detritus would have docs(with examples, n stuff), that it would be worse for begginers

both in the short term, and longterm, i think detritus/ts would be best

and i exaplained well the ts part

with the strong typed langs in case you plan on branching out, also gives a good understanding of how objects work

as far as detritus, it would take, i'd say, a good 40% of the docs/guides out there

since most of those guides are meant for begginers

[clear marlin]

The next big thing about discord.js is the amount of frameworks it can adapt to. Like akairo, klasa

sapphire

[opal plank]

the others 60% i would assume would be stuff specific to databases, functions, music, that sort of thing

but those were built FOR discord.js, no?

when they were built, it had it in mind

if thats the case, im bunching them with the 60% of the "rest" i suggested, into functions/packages

packages would be a good argument too

for discord.js, i mean

with a big userbase, you'll have plenty of packages to chose frmo if u dont want to code it yourself

which can be both good and bad, but if you're a user willing to get something out, it'd be worth it

[clear marlin]

that's what I mean. Userbase plays an important role, not in quality but usage

[opal plank]

thats indeed a good point

[clear marlin]

and since you're making software you need people to use it

[opal plank]

thats also true

in fairness its not as unused as it seems

[clear marlin]

people will target the first thing they find, which in most cases would be discord.js

[opal plank]

but its not even a fraction of discord.js's

[clear marlin]

and discord.js bot making is like all over the internet

[opal plank]

393 vs 214k

its clear detritus does not have a chance in userbase

[clear marlin]

yeah

[opal plank]

but you've made ur point

packages and an ecosystem do play a big role around a lib

[earnest phoenix]

the next big thing for detritus is a new awesome lib to depend on it

[opal plank]

just get groovy to use it

or some big botum

ggez

even tho notSoBot is using it

nothing to sneer at

[drifting shell]

Didnt notsobot get blacklsited on topgg?

[opal plank]

indeed

i cant recall why

[clear marlin]

good idea, create detritus guides

and maybe youtube tutorials

[lament rock]

similar reasons as to why it as well as it's owner got banned from Discord most likely

[earnest phoenix]

im still waiting for that deno port of detritus

[opal plank]

evie was working on one, but she's taking a break for a while now

[earnest phoenix]

It uses native node apis so esm.sh cant bundle it

[opal plank]

for not having a help command

[clear marlin]

anidiot's guide on detritus

that cool

[drifting shell]

I swear it did something dodgy ages ago that it got removed for

[opal plank]

she started it, but she got some info wrong, and she told me she'd be on a break. someone else needs to pick it up

[lament rock]

something about racism

[earnest phoenix]

literally anidiotsguide

[clear marlin]

if that happens tho detritus could gain userbase

[opal plank]

https://evie.gitbook.io/trash-guide/usage/the-simplest-of-bots

theres some misinformation there, like i said

[clear marlin]

oo

[opal plank]

she took a break, so its not fixed

[drifting shell]

Yeah that was it

This episode of Erwin is sponsored by Detritus

[opal plank]

Welcome to ym TED talk

[earnest phoenix]

detritus seems kinda cool

[opal plank]

it is, it just doesnt have docs, basically

luckily me and million are bringing out some commented example/repos

not a guide, but at least some examples on how to do things

[earnest phoenix]

what about a code playground?

[opal plank]

wdym?

[earnest phoenix]

people can test detritus in the browser

[drifting shell]

Million

You mean

THE million

[opal plank]

im not sure that'd be doable tbh

[drifting shell]

Jk millions not famous

[opal plank]

websockets n such

[earnest phoenix]

It can be

[opal plank]

ive never seen it

so its new territory for me

[drifting shell]

Yeah

Its perfectly doable

Its just a question of whether its worth it

Lol

[earnest phoenix]

send the detritus code and your bot token over HTTPS to your server, let it execute the code in a sandbox then pipe the errors to the client

[opal plank]

so, an eval command

im not fucking with that again

[earnest phoenix]

yeah

[opal plank]

not risking it lol

[earnest phoenix]

use a seperate server

[opal plank]

it'd have to be a docker, inside a vm, inside a sandbox level of shit

[earnest phoenix]

why would you need docker for that?

[opal plank]

docker has an amazing sandbox does it not?

[clear marlin]

woah that's a big brain

[earnest phoenix]

[opal plank]

https://docs.docker.com/engine/security/trust/trust_sandbox/

it do tho

[earnest phoenix]

Pog

[clear marlin]

@opal plank detritus sandbox

[opal plank]

u du it

eval client.token

ggez

[earnest phoenix]

Or better, use the server to webpack detritus with the bot code then the client runs the code

or you can just make a codesandbox template

[wheat mesa]

Honestly I would use detritus and learn ts for it, I just prefer djs for the docs

[opal plank]

big brain

i'd say its worth using detritus, specially u are active in development/new features

[earnest phoenix]

i would rather jump off a cliff than use typescript

[opal plank]

but thats only my biased opinion

[earnest phoenix]

tried and failed a lot of times trying to use it

[opal plank]

sounds like a u problem

not a ts/detritus one

u know u can always ask lmao

[earnest phoenix]

can you use detritus in normal js

[opal plank]

havent seen u ask ts questions here

u can yeah

[opal plank]

literally evie's guide is in js

[earnest phoenix]

[opal plank]

also are the docs

shit u not

https://detritusjs.com/

the docs, even though its a "pure ts lib" is in js

the docs themselves are ts tho

[wheat mesa]

Meh, the one bot I made is mainly just for fun and custom stuff for friends’ servers, but I’m always down to learn other stuff, which is why I’ve been looking into swapping to detritus

[earnest phoenix]

ty

but i dont write bots

[opal plank]

i'd say its the opposite tbh

[clear marlin]

you would always use discord.js

for one reason

guides and tutorials

[wheat mesa]

Yes

[earnest phoenix]

detritusjs.guide when

[opal plank]

detritus handles commandHandling, new features AND ram optimization greatly. If u need any of the previously stated, use it. Otherwise you'll just end up learning typescript, and thats pretty much it

[earnest phoenix]

ram optimization is necessary for replit
Replit keeps killing my nextjs processes for too much ram

[opal plank]

if u want a bot, for 4 servers, with a ping command, i'd argue either of them will work just fine

[clear marlin]

lmao, yk what Erwin. I'll do a detritus guide on our blog

[opal plank]

poggers

[wheat mesa]

I don’t have any great ideas for bots quite really, so I wouldn’t need any of the optimization of resources as likely nothing I make would be popular

[opal plank]

i'd recommend asking me quite a bit about any questions. or any of the helpers in the server. Evie accidently got a few things wrong while writting it

[lament rock]

The way to get popular seems to be shameless ads and vote locking. Just make a 100% vote locked bot

[earnest phoenix]

also where are you going to host it
98% of servers use linux

[clear marlin]

and I'm sure there'll be a good amount of people seeing it. We over 40k reads a month

[opal plank]

then the most you'll gain from it would be typescript

[opal plank]

[wheat mesa]

Not necessarily a bad thing!

[opal plank]

indeed, you right

learning strong typed language is always a good thing

and ts in general, for me at least, is an invaluable tool for coding in js

THOUGH, im warning, you'll fight with it quite a bit in the beggining

[wheat mesa]

been learning c# off and on for a little while, haven't really taken it seriously though

[earnest phoenix]

The catch errors before runtime thing is awesome but the type system is very weird

[opal plank]

there are very, very, very rare quirks of it. Most of the time, if something isnt working, its because you're doing it wrong

[clear marlin]

strong typed, easy language === "golang" always

[opal plank]

indeed

[opal plank]

is basically telling a shape of a thing, at its core

thats about it

HOW you do, thats what changes

[earnest phoenix]

i wonder how esbuild is written in golang but can be run through require("esbuild")

[inner fulcrum]

@umbral canyon there a ping command lmao

client.on('message', message => {
  if (message.content === '!ping') {
    message.channel.send("pong")
  }
});

[clear marlin]

golang -> C, nodejs -> C. Can easily be compiled

[opal plank]

for example, lets take this as example

[inner fulcrum]

;-;

wat

[clear marlin]

so its basically
golang -> C -> nodejs

[opal plank]

let prefix = "!";
CommandClient.add({
  name: 'ping',
  run({message}) {
    message.channel.createMessage('pong')
  }
})

@wheat mesa this should be a good example

[opal plank]

just converting this good person's code

to detritus

[earnest phoenix]

let for prefix nice

[opal plank]

same thing, right?

[inner fulcrum]

lmao

[opal plank]

now here is where things come in handy with detritus

[clear marlin]

why not bind message and some other objects into ctx

[inner fulcrum]

let prefix = "!"
client.on('message', message => {
  if (message.content === `${prefix}` + 'ping') {
    message.channel.send("pong")
  }
});

u saying this?

[earnest phoenix]

i would stop using detritus if it has dpy like names

[opal plank]

let prefix = "!";
CommandClient.add({
  name: 'ping',
  ratelimits: [{limit:5, type:'channel', timeout: 5000}],
  run({message}) {
    message.channel.createMessage('pong')
  }
})

and now u got ratelimits based on a channel, so only 5 commands can be used every 5 seconds

[clear marlin]

that's discord.js

[clear marlin]

how would that be bad??

[inner fulcrum]

i know

discord.js epic

[earnest phoenix]

i despise python

[opal plank]

let prefix = "!";
CommandClient.add({
  name: 'ping',
  aliases: ['pong'],
  ratelimits: [{limit:5, type:'channel', timeout: 5000}],
  run({message}) {
    message.channel.createMessage('pong')
  }
})

and now u got aliases

[inner fulcrum]

eh py is good but js is also good

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[earnest phoenix]

the forced intendation

[opal plank]

having it built in completely removes the need for having to write all that unecessary code they teach u with cooldowns, alieases, all that

[earnest phoenix]

:(

[opal plank]

it is bind already

[earnest phoenix]

is that why theres braces around message

[opal plank]

`

this is what we actually get from the parameters

i just descrutured it

[clear marlin]

ruby has force indentation too, but its far more better than python

[opal plank]

so it matches the example they sent

[earnest phoenix]

How can message be falsy?

[opal plank]

good question, thats on me, not on the lib

shit code

[prime mist]

Na ruby can be indented however you like. As it has end everywhere lol.

[clear marlin]

why does rubocop fuck me then

[opal plank]

its never null| undefined

[earnest phoenix]

Also if youre using optional chaining for cc then if it is undefined the message should be undefined too right?

[opal plank]

ignore the bad code lmao

[clear marlin]

that's like everytime, I code. " You had 4 spaces( needed 2)."

[opal plank]

otherwise i'll go to the other repo which actually has decent code

[tulip heart]

-bots

[gilded plank]

Kayla Liu Shi Jiu#2084

Bots

@copper tinsel

[opal plank]

but yeah, its redudant to check that

[prime mist]

rubocop is pretty anal about everything.

[clear marlin]

lmao

[earnest phoenix]

is dart worth learning

[clear marlin]

n

o

you know nodejs?

[prime mist]

flutter is good 🙂

[clear marlin]

just use react native

or ionic

or cordova

ALTERNATIVES TO FLUTTER/DART

[earnest phoenix]

not necessarily for flutter/ui

[prime mist]

dart isn't too bad, has a small learning curve. The recent sound null safety changes are nice.

[earnest phoenix]

side note: trying to use dart is the reason i fucked up my linux

[clear marlin]

dart, is a bit expert friendly tho

[inner fulcrum]

the fact that monke

[opal plank]

oh, almost forgot

@clear marlin https://discord.gg/gAv6TYuR

if im not online, ask there

[tame kestrel]

oh thanks for the invite

lets goo

[clear marlin]

alright

[opal plank]

cake and evan are massive brain devs, should be absolutely fine with any non-ts questions u have

ts they are good, but i wouldnt rely too much on that

like, 7/10 expertise

specially cake

[clear marlin]

ookk

[opal plank]

im prob a 5.5/10

i can struggle my way thru typescript

[earnest phoenix]

nice rules i can spam there

[wheat mesa]

built in command handler 🤤

[earnest phoenix]

commando

[earnest phoenix]

THIS IS A JOKE PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY

[opal plank]

yes

[opal plank]

I WILL KISS UR DOG IF U KEEP THIS UP, U LIL PUNK

screeches in detritus

[earnest phoenix]

I dont have a dog
I had 7 pigeons tho

[opal plank]

i'll kiss each one of them then

[earnest phoenix]

They flew away tho

[opal plank]

i'll fly with them

and watch as you regret ever recommending commando

[prime mist]

Hmm, who are these people using my discord client? I thought I was the only one using it lol.

[lament rock]

@earnest phoenix I was able to make it work instantly. Apparently, you can pipe a very small amount of chunks into a stream and it'll still contain that metadata.
I limited 4 chunks into a class I made which I aptly named a LimitedReadWriteStream which is just an extension of stream.Transform.

class LimitedReadWriteStream extends stream.Transform {
    public limit: number | undefined;
    public chunkAmount = 0;

    public constructor(chunkLimit?: number) {
        super();
        this.limit = chunkLimit;
    }

    public _transform(chunk: any, encoding: BufferEncoding, done: stream.TransformCallback) {
        if (!this.limit || this.chunkAmount < this.limit) this.push(chunk, encoding);
        if (this.limit && this.chunkAmount >= this.limit) this.end();
        this.chunkAmount++;
        done();
    }
}

implementation:

// message is an instance of http.IncomingMessage
const readwrite = new LimitedReadWriteStream(4);
message.pipe(readwrite);
const parsed = await metadata.parseStream(readwrite, { mimeType: message.headers["content-type"], size: message.headers["content-length"] ? Number(message.headers["content-length"]) : undefined }, { duration: false, skipCovers: true, skipPostHeaders: true, includeChapters: false });
message.destroy();

[earnest phoenix]

Only two of em were females so

🏳️‍🌈:rainbow_flag:🏳️‍🌈

[lament rock]

I also learned that chunk sizes are by default 16KB

[opal plank]

shinobu emotes

[earnest phoenix]

You know you can just put an || after Number(stuff) instead of using ternary

[lament rock]

I need to pass either a number or undefined to that option or else it produces unintended side effects. I know what I'm doing.

[earnest phoenix]

That's an interesting implementation

[lament rock]

[earnest phoenix]

[lament rock]

might try 1 chunk for shits and giggles

Nah. Didn't work too well. It ended up saying that the song was -80ms long

[clear marlin]

Voltrex

[earnest phoenix]

What to expect from a single chunk

[alpine star]

Ñ

[earnest phoenix]

Zordy

[clear marlin]

woah that's actually awesome!!

[earnest phoenix]

God damn, using RxJS like a chad

[prime mist]

rxjs ❤️

[clear marlin]

@earnest phoenix my last article went fire lmao

[earnest phoenix]

[clear marlin]

out of the 1.6k only 966 read it

[earnest phoenix]

I mean, 966 readers is still not bad

Yall should make a detritus medium

For blogs and stuff

[clear marlin]

I mean I've got more than that before

but

[earnest phoenix]

Shrug

[long crow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/794713212229910548/860283603568558080/image0.png

Noice

[earnest phoenix]

10 embeds + 4096 character limit in each description

[errant flax]

such a random limit tbh

[earnest phoenix]

[errant flax]

so how many characters total can fit in an embed

[earnest phoenix]

8,048 characters in each embed

[errant flax]

dam

thats a lot + 10 embeds in a single message

[earnest phoenix]

I can already see mobile users (including myself) scared from this

[errant flax]

i am mobile

what r the limits for embeds btw

i wanna crash discord

[earnest phoenix]

Limit for what of embeds

[errant flax]

titles description footer etc

[errant flax]

not in a spammy way

[prime mist]

🕶️

import { Embed } from "./types";

const zzz = (count: number) => [...Array(count).keys()].map(() => "z").join("");

const embed: Embed = {
  title: zzz(256),
  description: zzz(4096),
};

[earnest phoenix]

Was that kind of a joke or did you not know String.prototype.repeat() existed

[prime mist]

Oh nice. Didn't know that one 🙂

Is there a way to make ranges that I didn't know about? Because I actually care about that hah.

[errant flax]

Math.floor(Math.random()*5)
chooses between 1-5

@prime mist

[wheat mesa]

I believe... that... he knows that...

Just saying 😛

[prime mist]

By ranges, I mean a list of numbers of x size. Most languages have this kind of syntax 0..5 etc.

[errant flax]

so u mean like
its chooses to
5-10 etc etc?

[prime mist]

range(0, 5) -> [0, 1, 2, 3, 4]

[errant flax]

oh u can do that with for loops ig then push the numbers? like

arr=[]
for (let i = 0;i<length;i++){
arr.push(0)
}

[prime mist]

Hah yep. Nice.

I'll stick with [...Array(count).keys()] for the time being.

[earnest phoenix]

or just
Array(count).fill().map(_ => "z");

what kind probleam happen here

Read the first word on line 26

yes

return stops the function

wht i do so

remove the return???

where

brother

[earnest phoenix]

...

[craggy pine]

???

[earnest phoenix]

oh

ok

[prime mist]

Oh nice. fill looks good.

[earnest phoenix]

@prime mist the for loop fill method for the range is better than your [...Array(number).keys()] method

now it wotk

@earnest phoenix see up image

good

is error work

also visual studio should have told you that the return stops the function

[earnest phoenix]

hm

    const connection = await channel.join();
    queueConstruct.connection = connection;
    play(queueConstruct.songs[0]);
  } catch (error) {
    console.error(`I could not join the voice channel: ${error}`);
    message.client.queue.delete(message.guild.id);
    await channel.leave();
    return sendError(`I could not join the voice channel: ${error}`, message.channel);
  }```

is this work

for config error

[prime mist]

Fill looks pretty good though. If you only care about the length (fill makes everything undefined).

[earnest phoenix]

@earnest phoenix https://tryitands.ee

[earnest phoenix]

ok

[earnest phoenix]

Array.prototype.fill() doesn't make a range (example: [0, 1, 2, 3, 4]), I was talking about this

[earnest phoenix]

it work

As you were talking about ranges earlier

[earnest phoenix]

Array(rangeEnd).fill().map((x,i) => i + rangeStart);

That's slower than what I showed

[earnest phoenix]

Refer to this

[earnest phoenix]

    at Object.run (/home/container/commands/connect.js:18:5)
    at module.exports (/home/container/events/message.js:29:13)
    at Client.emit (events.js:376:20)
    at MessageCreateAction.handle (/home/container/node_modules/discord.js/src/client/actions/MessageCreate.js:31:14)
    at Object.module.exports [as MESSAGE_CREATE] (/home/container/node_modules/discord.js/src/client/websocket/handlers/MESSAGE_CREATE.js:4:32)
    at WebSocketManager.handlePacket (/home/container/node_modules/discord.js/src/client/websocket/WebSocketManager.js:384:31)
    at WebSocketShard.onPacket (/home/container/node_modules/discord.js/src/client/websocket/WebSocketShard.js:444:22)
    at WebSocketShard.onMessage (/home/container/node_modules/discord.js/src/client/websocket/WebSocketShard.js:301:10)
    at WebSocket.onMessage (/home/container/node_modules/discord.js/node_modules/ws/lib/event-target.js:132:16)
    at WebSocket.emit (events.js:376:20)
(Use `node --trace-warnings ...` to show where the warning was created)
(node:62) UnhandledPromiseRejectionWarning: Unhandled promise rejection. This error originated either by throwing inside of an async function without a catch block, or by rejecting a promise which was not handled with .catch(). To terminate the node process on unhandled promise rejection, use the CLI flag `--unhandled-rejections=strict` (see https://nodejs.org/api/cli.html#cli_unhandled_rejections_mode). (rejection id: 1)
(node:62) [DEP0018] DeprecationWarning: Unhandled promise rejections are deprecated. In the future, promise rejections that are not handled will terminate the Node.js process with a non-zero exit code.```

DUDE

Try reading your errors instead of spam pinging me

bot cnt send message

but termianl comes

with this

i make permission handler message

whe user cnt give permission to bot

send message

read the error

error is undefined

my english is not good

bro

i am from assam

error is not defined

hmm

how can fix it pls help me 1 time coder bro

😭

define error

if you're making a discord bot it is assumed that you know simple javascript

[wheat mesa]

Learn js before making a bot! Makes life a lot easier.

[earnest phoenix]

Both for you and the people trying to help you

[prime mist]

Lol funny that. Learn to code before coding?

[wheat mesa]

^^

[earnest phoenix]

Lol funny that. Learn to write before writing?

[earnest phoenix]

ok

[earnest phoenix]

muja samj nhi a raha kasa define kara ap indian ha to ise liya apsa pucha

ya british nhi bata

kuch

us liya ak last time help kar do na

muja define nhi ho raha ha ma kar raha red mark a raha ha

[wheat mesa]

uh

@earnest phoenix ask for help here rather than in DMs with me please.

[earnest phoenix]

ok

[wheat mesa]

You need to define error in your code

The error is clear on what's wrong

[earnest phoenix]

[earnest phoenix]

    at Object.run (/home/container/commands/connect.js:18:5)
    at module.exports (/home/container/events/message.js:29:13)
    at Client.emit (events.js:376:20)
    at MessageCreateAction.handle (/home/container/node_modules/discord.js/src/client/actions/MessageCreate.js:31:14)
    at Object.module.exports [as MESSAGE_CREATE] (/home/container/node_modules/discord.js/src/client/websocket/handlers/MESSAGE_CREATE.js:4:32)
    at WebSocketManager.handlePacket (/home/container/node_modules/discord.js/src/client/websocket/WebSocketManager.js:384:31)
    at WebSocketShard.onPacket (/home/container/node_modules/discord.js/src/client/websocket/WebSocketShard.js:444:22)
    at WebSocketShard.onMessage (/home/container/node_modules/discord.js/src/client/websocket/WebSocketShard.js:301:10)
    at WebSocket.onMessage (/home/container/node_modules/discord.js/node_modules/ws/lib/event-target.js:132:16)
    at WebSocket.emit (events.js:376:20)
(Use `node --trace-warnings ...` to show where the warning was created)
(node:62) UnhandledPromiseRejectionWarning: Unhandled promise rejection. This error originated either by throwing inside of an async function without a catch block, or by rejecting a promise which was not handled with .catch(). To terminate the node process on unhandled promise rejection, use the CLI flag `--unhandled-rejections=strict` (see https://nodejs.org/api/cli.html#cli_unhandled_rejections_mode). (rejection id: 1)
(node:62) [DEP0018] DeprecationWarning: Unhandled promise rejections are deprecated. In the future, promise rejections that are not handled will terminate the Node.js process with a non-zero exit code.

[wheat mesa]

Sending the same error over and over doesn't give me any more information than I already had

[earnest phoenix]

  const channel = message.member.voice.channel;
  if (!channel)
    return message.channel.send(
      "**You must Join a voice channel before using this command!**"
    );

  if (!channel.permissionsFor(message.client.user).has("CONNECT"))
    return error("**I don't have permission to join the voice channel**");

  if (!channel.permissionsFor(message.client.user).has("SPEAK"))
    return error("**I don't have permission to speak in the voice channel**");

  await channel.join();

    message.channel.send(
    new MessageEmbed()
      .setDescription("👍 **Joined the voice channel **")
      .setColor("#ffb700")
  );
  try {
    const connection = await channel.join();
    queueConstruct.connection = connection;
    play(queueConstruct.songs[0]);
  } catch (error) {
    console.error(``);
    message.client.queue.delete(message.guild.id);
    await channel.leave();
    return message.channel.send(`**:Animated_Cross448: I cannot have any kind of permission to join voice channel**`, message.channel);
  }



},

};```

main codes

of join

[wheat mesa]

This is your connect.js file, right?

[earnest phoenix]

    const connection = await channel.join();
    queueConstruct.connection = connection;
    play(queueConstruct.songs[0]);
  } catch (error) {
    console.error(``);
    message.client.queue.delete(message.guild.id);
    await channel.leave();
    return message.channel.send(`**:Animated_Cross448: I cannot have any kind of permission to join voice channel**`, message.channel);
  }```

[earnest phoenix]

yes

[earnest phoenix]

i add this new

for catch error

[lusty quest]

how did you define Error? for your returns?

[earnest phoenix]

He didn't that's why

[lusty quest]

well, i would replace error by message.reply or message.channel.send

[wheat mesa]

^^

[earnest phoenix]

also why would someone send the error object instead of error.message

[earnest phoenix]

[wheat mesa]

That is a very basic error. You should learn JS before making a bot, as if you knew JS there, that would be very simple to fix yourself.

[earnest phoenix]

He says he's from India that's why he doesn't understand english

huge insult

:(

[wheat mesa]

It's not

[wheat mesa]

Precisely

[earnest phoenix]

error is called as a method

Yeah

😔 all think i dum

wtf

ungrateful

[wheat mesa]

We didn't say that

Everyone starts somewhere in programming

[earnest phoenix]

channel.permissionsFor is also called with a user object

you should use message.guild.me inside that

[wheat mesa]

However, making discord bots is probably not the best way to start out

[earnest phoenix]

your first project should be an html document with a button event listener that outputs hello world on click

[tame kestrel]

There's a difference between intelligence and knowledge.

The people here may be pushy with wanting people to be knowledgeable about programming, but none of them think you are dumb.

[wheat mesa]

I learned a great deal about JS from making bots, and as you said, it's a big jump from the basics.

It can be very overwhelming if you're not sure about at least the basics

[rose warren]

Depends if you like being thrown in on the deep end

But there's nothing wrong with starting out on a Discord bot imo

[earnest phoenix]

petition to put a This guide assumes you have prior knowledge about javascript. Trying to make a bot without knowing the basics is possible but *very hard*. banner above every discordjs.guide page

mami sahi khati thi dunai ma apno koi nhi hota

[earnest phoenix]

translation: aunt used to say the correct thing, there are no good people in the world

welcome back to my blocklist

[earnest phoenix]

not good

you cnt denfine right

[rose warren]

#general guys this is getting off topic

[earnest phoenix]

right

lets get back to coding

[rose warren]

This channel is for development

[wheat mesa]

I am having a sudden impulse to swap to detritus because I'm bored

[earnest phoenix]

im making a custom newtab extension for chrome and im making a clock. What should be the interval in which it rechecks the time and displays it?

[lusty quest]

the docs are not good, but you get usually features Day1

also it does stuff like Sharding differently

[earnest phoenix]

I have a 1 second interval calling setState with the new time

[wheat mesa]

Yeah

[earnest phoenix]

bawfa ha tu bhie

????

[long crow]

Kids

[earnest phoenix]

what are you trying to do

It's probably matching the start of the string

Try using anchors

[wheat mesa]

To save yourself some time on testing that- https://regex101.com

[earnest phoenix]

At the end too