development

[gaunt ermine]

U talking to me?

[lucid prawn]

yes

[gaunt ermine]

Ok so yes

I am

Can u help

[lucid prawn]

umm

[earnest phoenix]

app.get("/route", (req, res) => {
// Calculate leaderboard data
// After you're done send the data:
res.set("Content-Type", "text/html");
res.send(`
<div>
Leaderboard data
</div>
`);
});

[gaunt ermine]

Ok....? Did not get it yet

[earnest phoenix]

sorry but i cannot explain better

[gaunt ermine]

Ok np

[lucid prawn]

Why not do a db like when the user votes fetch the user then add a point then fetch the highest to lowest vote like 10 people each page

[gaunt ermine]

Is there anything on yt?

[earnest phoenix]

@lucid prawn that is exactly what he's doing but anyone can steal api keys on the website so the server should do it

[gaunt ermine]

Cuz this is like

[earnest phoenix]

yt tutorials suck unless it's a video made by fireship.io

[tight trail]

is it possible to give a bot a custom tag?

[earnest phoenix]

nope

[gaunt ermine]

Still

[tight trail]

or like a about me section

[earnest phoenix]

not sure about that tho

[tight trail]

ok

that would be nice

displaying the invite link and a discord link

[lucid prawn]

so you trying to hide the api keys what host he using

[gaunt ermine]

Replit

[lucid prawn]

oh

[gaunt ermine]

Yes

[earnest phoenix]

The server that sends your bot website can also be the one calculating the leaderboard data

[gaunt ermine]

Ok leave the api key

[lucid prawn]

then use import

[gaunt ermine]

I will hide it

[earnest phoenix]

Please

Dont put api keys in javascript that the user can see

[gaunt ermine]

What

[lucid prawn]

or use this

System environment varia

[gaunt ermine]

Ok

Can u pls help with the code

Pls

[near stratus]

forget DDOSing top.gg we'll ddos his bot page

[lucid prawn]

it's builded in replit

[earnest phoenix]

How is server side rendering so hard?

[gaunt ermine]

No mot that

Not*

[near stratus]

umm ?
use react and split the api somewhere else

[lucid prawn]

do you see a lock

[earnest phoenix]

Exactly what i said

[lucid prawn]

on replit

[gaunt ermine]

For this

[gaunt ermine]

I have already used that

[earnest phoenix]

But he's not using react

afaik

[near stratus]

well with plain html and js it'll be hard af and will end up coding like hell

[gaunt ermine]

Can someone help me withthe code for this

[hushed adder]

So I've never made a bot before and I'm trying to learn for a friend. He wants me to make a bot for his discord server so when he streams a game we all can play it. Like if I type "up" in his channel, it will send that input to his pc and emulator. Namely we want to do this so we can play pokemon together. But like all on his device when he streams it. Is this something that's even possible?

[wary flame]

It's possible

But hard

[earnest phoenix]

Not possible with bots but it's possible with the game sdk

[lucid prawn]

I can't I'm trying to make something like a dashboard for my bot It's hard af

[wary flame]

It is possible with bots

[hushed adder]

sdk? Isn't that only for android games?

[wary flame]

Nodejs is able to send system input

[near stratus]

- create a webhook
- save data on vote in a db
- make an api to send top 10 with queries or something
- Render it in html in client side

[wary flame]

might want to look into this @hushed adder https://robotjs.io/

[gaunt ermine]

Is there some thing better

[near stratus]

Dosen't that mean he'll have to run the bot on everyone's pc which dosen't make any sense

[near stratus]

use react

[gaunt ermine]

Cuz i told u that i am new

[wary flame]

If I understood correctly he wanted to be able to use chat commands to send basic input to his friends emulator

[near stratus]

oh I thought they all wanted to play together so like
someone sends "up" and the game pops up on everyone's pc

[lucid prawn]

can someone help me

[near stratus]

help

how ?

[lucid prawn]

^

[gaunt ermine]

If i am correct then react is a package right?

[lucid prawn]

do you need a host?

[gaunt ermine]

No

[wary flame]

You need to use member.roles.add(role) not message.member.roles.add(role) since you're assigning the first mentioned server member to let member wich does not change the member property of message

[lucid prawn]

I tried that I got a add error

[wary flame]

what error

[near stratus]

does both 'role' and 'member' exist ?
like try

if(!member){ return false }
if(!role){ return false }

[gaunt ermine]

@wary flame Hi can u help me also

[wary flame]

@gaunt ermine Don't ping people asking for help

Just send your problem and see if someone helps you

[near stratus]

React is a framework (or maybe a library I don't know the difference) which is built for Client side development

[wary flame]

It's a framework iirc

[lucid prawn]

(node:25) UnhandledPromiseRejectionWarning: TypeError: Cannot read property 'add' of undefined

[gaunt ermine]

Some one already tried

[gaunt ermine]

Sorry

[wary flame]

that means member.roles is undefined

[gaunt ermine]

With this

[wary flame]

Try checking if message.mentions.members.first() exists before trying to add roles

[near stratus]

@lucid prawn

[austere laurel]

hello i have a question

do you know where to get these

[near stratus]

https://dontasktoask.com

[austere laurel]

SUPER_PROPS, AUTHORIZATION, USER_AGENT, REFERER, COOKIE, CHANNEL ID

[pale vessel]

Your member is most likely a user

[wary flame]

@near stratus you were faster then me lol

[pale vessel]

Change from users.first() to members.first()

[near stratus]

....

[wary flame]

ehm

[near stratus]

like in what context ?

[gaunt ermine]

Helloooo

[near stratus]

Also I don't like SAO
bad anime

[austere laurel]

i just want know where to get all of the above info

[austere laurel]

ya

[wary flame]

like the definition for the terms?

[near stratus]

For what ?
a discord bot ?
a website ?
a webhook ?
React ?

[near stratus]

I already told you how to
so stfu

[gaunt ermine]

And i told you that i dont know becuz i am nee

[austere laurel]

a discord bot

[gaunt ermine]

New

[lucid prawn]

thxs message.mentions.members.first() fixed it

[wary flame]

That you're new doesn't mean your incapable of googling basic issues or being able to follow simple steps

[earnest phoenix]

They cant understand the spoonfeeded express code too

[near stratus]

Authorization is a header you send in request
for bots it's in this format Bot BOT_TOKEN
User_Agent: Also a header. Defines what agent the user is using (Mozila, Edge, Chrome etc)
Referer Cookie: If someone refers you and forwards a cookie (Mostly Google)
Channel Id: The id of the channel eg: 16376359301726535378

[gaunt ermine]

Ok last thing is there a yt tut on it

[austere laurel]

thank you

[earnest phoenix]

You wont understand the yt tutorial cuz youre new

[near stratus]

[gaunt ermine]

I will

[earnest phoenix]

So 69 year old yt tutorials are better than us?

[solid tide]

Idk css or html

[near stratus]

he'll just copy the code if I'm not wrong

[gaunt ermine]

No

I won't

[near stratus]

Write in md then

[gaunt ermine]

OK do you have it or no ?

[solid tide]

Alright thanks

[near stratus]

Or in plain with nothing else
and use <br> when breaking lines

[earnest phoenix]

No

[near stratus]

Use the search bar in yt and Google
If you find it you find it
Otherwise no

[gaunt ermine]

OK

[earnest phoenix]

Beware security problems from yt tutorials

[vital void]

guys anyone help ? how to increase the MaxListerner limit in node.js ?

[lucid prawn]

require('events').EventEmitter.defaultMaxListeners = 100;
process.setMaxListeners(100);

[vital void]

ty

[lucid prawn]

How do I store that member roles I removed

[solemn jolt]

Who tag me in every channel's 😒

[manic valve]

Has anyone had their bot be disabled by Discord before without any explanation? And a note saying that you should contact support to figure out why?

This is the second time it has happened to me, and they (Discord support) are very slow with responding

It's been a week since I filed a ticket but haven't had a word on what my bot is doing wrong

Previous time they took two weeks and then my bot magically got enabled again, and they didn't bother telling me what it did wrong aside from saying that it violated the terms

[quaint wasp]

I got this:

        let muteRole = message.guild.roles.cache.find(x => x.name === "Muted");
    ```
But it gives me error saying it cant read property of 'roles' or undefined, meaning it doesnt know what guild means...

(Ping if helping.)

[lusty quest]

did you by any chance spammed the API by accident?

[manic valve]

I think I might've hit the cloudflare limit yeah

Might need to keep track of the amount of requests I'm doing to make sure I'm not going over

My bot is in 7000-ish servers and sends messages to many of them if a specific event occurs. I thought I put in an artificial delay anyway but I probably didn't

[lusty quest]

i suggest to add cooldowns to stuff like commands, and start caching frequently used stuff

so you will lower the amount of requests that go to the API

[manic valve]

Yeah. Just realized that if 1% of servers does a command then I'm already reaching the global rate limit

[earnest phoenix]

There is no guild i.e. the message is in a dm

[tulip heart]

hmm

[rugged condor]

;s

[feral aspen]

Hello!!

const work = { jobs: [ { points: 2 }, { points: 5 }, { points: 3 } ] };

console.log(work.jobs.map((x, total) => total += x.points))

Did I do this wrong?

I'm trying to add all values of points.

.. or am I supposed to use a for loop?

[pale vessel]

+= doesn't return the object

You have to return the object back after incrementing the points

[feral aspen]

I want it to return a number which is the total of all the points:

[pale vessel]

Also, total is the index

You meant to use reduce?

[feral aspen]

I think reduce would work..

[pale vessel]

Yes

[feral aspen]

.. but is really hard to understand.

I barely understood it. 😐

Every time I use it, I have 10k questions in my mind on why this and that is needed.

[pale vessel]

array.reduce(
    (
        accumulatedValue, // The accumulated value, you'll define this as 0 and it will increase as it traverses the array
        currentValue // The current value, which is the current element or object from the array
    ) => accumulatedValue += currentValue.points, // Add current value (the object)'s points to accumulatedValue. variable += number already returns the sum so you don't need to return accumulatedValue again
    0 // Starting value for accuumulated value
);```

[feral aspen]

I've copy pasted your response for my understanding as well.

Alright.. I tried this multiple times...

It works.

[earnest phoenix]

Bots can send stickers now?

Or i need to wait

[pale vessel]

God that profile picture

[quaint wasp]

whats ie

[pale vessel]

Id est

Which means "that is", "which is"

[deft lotus]

how to team mambers in Creator

[clear marlin]

?

[deft lotus]

how to add team mambers in Creator

[clear marlin]

#support

[deft lotus]

ok sir

[lofty cedar]

?

[austere laurel]

how to get super props

[quartz kindle]

what super props?

[feral aspen]

Heyo.

work.points += jobs.find((val) => val.id.toLowerCase() === jobToWork).pointsSallary;
work.cooldown = Date.now();

work.jobs.find((val) => val.id.toLowerCase() === jobToWork).points += 1;
work.jobs.find((val) => val.id.toLowerCase() === jobToWork).coins += 500;
work.jobs.find((val) => val.id.toLowerCase() === jobToWork).hours += 1;

work.save().catch(err => console.log(err));
Work.findOneAndUpdate({
    userID: message.author.id
}, work);

I'm having this code of me saving values in an object. I'll show you how the object looks like.

Somehow.. points and cooldown are changed in the main object but the values inside the object inside the array are not being changed.. 😐

I did work.save() to save the points: and cooldown:, but the properties inside the array of objects aren't changing saving.

[main mist]

Hey everyone?

[pale vessel]

Did you log work and made sure that everything inside the array changed?

[feral aspen]

It's not even changing.

Let me check

I'll log it before saving, right?

[pale vessel]

Sure

[feral aspen]

I've logged it, it changes.

.. it looks like it's not saving.

[feral aspen]

.. edited.

[pale vessel]

The cooldown doesn't seem to have changed either?

[feral aspen]

It does.. but this is a picture before any of the code above takes place.

Here is the updated document.

Logged to console before saving..

{
  jobs: [ { id: 'member', points: 1, coins: 500, hours: 1 } ],
  _id: 60dd892628262830d8143090,
  userID: '528256079101034506',
  job: 'member',
  points: 1,
  cooldown: 1625134468382,
  changeCooldown: 0,
  __v: 1
}

[pale vessel]

Try providing everything directly ```js
work.jobs.find().points += 1;
...

Work.updateOne({
points: work.points + ...,
cooldown: Date.now(),
jobs: work.jobs
});```

[feral aspen]

What's updateOne?

I never use that, I use findOneAndUpdate

[pale vessel]

fineOneAndUpdate() returns the previous document

You don't need that if you're not assigning it to anything

Both works ig

[feral aspen]

I usually use that when updating objects in a document.

.. not sure why it doesn't work when it's an array of objects, instead.

[pale vessel]

Array of objects?

You need to use updateMany() instead

[feral aspen]

No.

For example...

[feral aspen]

suppose a property in this was:

lmao: { x: 0 }

.. and I wanted to update x, I would use findOneAndUpdate.

.. but

lmao: [ lmao2: { x: 0 } ]

.. findOneAndUpdate, doesn't work in this case, idk why.

[pale vessel]

updateOne(filter, { "lmao.$.lmao2.x": newValue }) should work iirc

[feral aspen]

That's gonna suck.

Let me try.

[pale vessel]

Hmm, naw

[feral aspen]

.. but how am I supposed to update the values that are inside the array of objects. This won't work.

[pale vessel]

You can do that

[frozen topaz]

anyone here use botghost? just wondering...

[feral aspen]

Not really dude, sorry.

[spare badger]

There are plenty of people who use botghost @frozen topaz

[pale vessel]

updateOne({ "lmao.lmao2.x": 0 }, { "lmao.$.lmao2.x": newValue })
You'd have to know the value

[feral aspen]

ohh.

[frozen topaz]

k as far as I can tell the general consensus is that its ok but could be better...?

[pale vessel]

lmao is the array and lmao2 is an object inside

[spare badger]

I don't have any experience with it myself, but I think it's an easy way for you to build your own bot if you don't have any technical skills.

[pale vessel]

lmao.$ refers to the index of object inside lmao

[feral aspen]

Could you show me an example if I would want to change the coins but applying the find() method to find the object that has an id of "member"

Example.

find((val) => val.id.toLowerCase() === "member")

[pale vessel]

I've got no clue how your structure looks like, but this is how I did it for my tags

[slender thistle]

Rust, egui
What's the optimal way to add an Area widget to my screen? If I add it in the update function, my area acts in an eerie manner whenever I move the mouse around. https://puu.sh/HT5Tm/8ca399e81f.mp4

Is this behavior an issue with egui or the way I implemented it?

Attached is my entire app.rs that I use in my main.rs.

[frozen topaz]

yeah makes sense

[pale vessel]

With queries or just by modifying the original object and updating it using updateOne/findOneAndUpdate?

[feral aspen]

.. to be honest dude, I just want to modify them using the original way like in the code I wrote then use findOneAndUpdate, but it's not working.

.. save(), won't work, since we are modifying objects, not properties only.

[copper cradle]

that looks cursed af

[feral aspen]

.. updateOne, I can use this, but I'm trying to figure out how to use the find method as well.

[pale vessel]

Did you try this?

[feral aspen]

.. how is it going to know which object to modify if there are multiple objects inside the array?

Could you show me an example on how to add the find method?

Example.

work.jobs.find((val) => val.id.toLowerCase() === jobToWork).points += 1;
work.jobs.find((val) => val.id.toLowerCase() === jobToWork).coins += 500;
work.jobs.find((val) => val.id.toLowerCase() === jobToWork).hours += 1;

[pale vessel]

You weren't supposed to copy paste that. My point is provide everything to the update field instead of modifying the original object (except for jobs)

Instead ofjs obj.points = 10; updateOne(filter, obj);Dojs updateOne(filter, { points: 10 })

Except for work.jobs. You use your find methods to modify the array and provide it as js updateOne(filter, { jobs: work.jobs });

[sacred aurora]

you forgot the $set

[pale vessel]

OR you can use replaceOne() instead. That replaces the whole document

[feral aspen]

.. wait, we're not trying to modify all the documents, aren't we?

[pale vessel]

Only one?

[feral aspen]

updateOne does it for all.

Wait

Sorry

[pale vessel]

No, that's updateMany.

[feral aspen]

My bad.

[pale vessel]

Okay try this

This should be easier. Simply change findOneAndUpdate to replaceOne

That replaces the whole document. You already have the complete object so you only need to modify it and replace the old one with the new one

updateOne/findOneAndUpdate() in mongoose uses $set internally

[sacred aurora]

oh i thought it was the original mongodb driver

[pale vessel]

Well we're only trying this since updateOne doesn't work with arrays (for some reason)

So try to replace the whole document instead

Forget about #development message for now

[feral aspen]

Alright? .. no replacing though.. since I should increment values.

[boreal iron]

@latent heron Just another example of, leave the PC, take a break and come get back later if you're stuck.

RewriteEngine On
RewriteRule ^/?(.*) /index.php?lookup=$1 [PT,QSA]

Instead of doing things complicated I'm just appending the query string to the request URI with QSA
Which solved the issue...

[pale vessel]

You can keep this code #development message

Just change findOneAndUpdate to replaceOne

work is already the full object so you don't have to worry about missing properties

[boreal iron]

If you're still stuck with your RewriteRule just let me know.

[feral aspen]

I'll try.

Didn't work yet...

I'm not trying to replace but update.

[pale vessel]

work is the object returned by findOne() right?

[pale vessel]

Hmm, all right then. Did the document change in any way or no?

[feral aspen]

Nope.

[pale vessel]

The problem right now is that it just doesn't want to update the jobs array even if you modified the original document

[feral aspen]

Yes.

[feral aspen]

Yes.. .save() works to save the other parts but the only problem is trying to find a way to update the jobs array meaning modify it.

No replacing, but updating, just like incrementing, and such.

[pale vessel]

Let's try #development message again. Your code should look something like this ```js
work.points += jobs.find((val) => val.id.toLowerCase() === jobToWork).pointsSallary;
work.cooldown = Date.now();

work.jobs.find((val) => val.id.toLowerCase() === jobToWork).points += 1;
work.jobs.find((val) => val.id.toLowerCase() === jobToWork).coins += 500;
work.jobs.find((val) => val.id.toLowerCase() === jobToWork).hours += 1;

Work.findOneAndUpdate({
userID: message.author.id
}, { points: work.points, cooldown: Date.now(), jobs: work.jobs });```

[slender thistle]

it works... kinda

[pale vessel]

Notice how it's { points: work.points, cooldown: Date.now(), jobs: work.jobs } instead of work

and save() isn't needed since you already have findOneAndUpdate. That updates the properties already

[feral aspen]

I'll try.

[pale vessel]

If this doesn't work, then I'm not sure what's wrong

[feral aspen]

Still replacing, so didn't work. 😐

I appreciate your help dude. 🙏

I'm reading the docs as well.

[pale vessel]

It's not replacing

Ah, you mean jobs?

I asked if you wanted to use queries but you said no and you wanted to use array.find() instead

[feral aspen]

Yes..

[pale vessel]

You could try something like this js Work.updateOne({ userID: message.author.id, "jobs.id": jobToWork }, { points: work.points + jobs.find((val) => val.id.toLowerCase() === jobToWork).pointsSallary, cooldown: Date.now(), $inc: { "jobs.$.points": 1, "jobs.$.coins": 500, "jobs.$.hours": 1, } });

That doesn't need array.find() or any modification to the document you got from findOne()

[feral aspen]

I'll be trying that, I'll stop for a bit and update you once I'm back.

[boreal iron]

@rustic nova

[rustic nova]

welp

rip a bot dev

[boreal iron]

god thanks

we got too much

[sudden geyser]

Why are you banning them though?

Aren't their accounts getting hacked?

[boreal iron]

Imagine sharing .ru URLS as trustful

[vivid fulcrum]

you can't really hack accounts anymore

brute forcing will get you ip banned instantly

they're just dumb and click random links

and sign into fake discord replicas

[boreal iron]

don't abuse my name

[sudden geyser]

Ah, understandable.

[tight trail]

How could I make a command that is for users that are in a discord server only?

[vivid fulcrum]

in which library

[pale vessel]

My school library

[tight trail]

discord.js

[pale vessel]

https://discord.js.org/#/docs/main/stable/class/GuildMember?scrollTo=guild

Check the guild ID of the member

[vivid fulcrum]

well

[tight trail]

ok

[pale vessel]

If you want it to work for other servers, access cache

[vivid fulcrum]

check if Message#member is defined

because if the command is in a dm, member won't be defined

accessing the guild id will throw

but same idea

[pale vessel]

Oh I thought they meant if the member is in a specific discord server

Yeah check the channel type or if message.guild is null

[tight trail]

so i want to make is so only people can use some other commands if they are in the main discord server

[pale vessel]

Main discord server?

[tight trail]

yea

like a support server

[pale vessel]

Check the guild where the message was sent

I assumed you wanted that (or #development message)

[tight trail]

for example

the bot idleminer

you can do the command ;supporter

if you are in their server

[pale vessel]

Yeah

message has the guild property

Make sure message.guild exists and compare message.guild.id with your support server ID

If it matches, allow the command usage, else don't

[tight trail]

ok

ty

let guildA = client.guilds.cache.get("GUILD ID");

let requiredRole = guildA.roles.cache.get("ROLE ID");

let member = guildA.members.cache.get(message.author.id);

if (member.roles.cache.has(requiredRole.id)) {
message.channel.send("You have the required role.");
} else {
message.channel.send("You do not have the required role");
};

so what that sort of thing work

and ill give my member a member role

[brittle spire]

const EventEmitter = require('events')

EventEmitter.defaultMaxListeners = 20

i added this but i still get the error

MaxListenersExceededWarning: Possible EventEmitter memory leak detected. 21 message

[opal plank]

you dont modify the original

thats now how it works

you need to modify the eventEmitter instance thats throwing the error

[brittle spire]

ooh

[limber mica]

Bruh my message handler is too damn long

Does anyone know of a way to check if a category exists?

[mild agate]

Yes.

[tulip ledge]

yo dude, there's an IP in there

[drowsy epoch]

there is

@rustic nova delete that image it has an ip

[drowsy matrix]

👍

[lethal trout]

https://sourceb.in/KqE9VSBnbA
it is not editing the embed, when i tried from a another bot it worked perfectly fine but now when i use in my public bot it is not working.
everything is perfectly working when i tried in another bot, but when i used the same code in my bot it is not working
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/821972674380038166/860141082251624458/unknown.png
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/821972674380038166/860141168322543626/unknown.png

no errs

[vivid fulcrum]

what the fuck is that handler

and why are you copypasting so much code

[lethal trout]

i did copy some code, but changed almost everything

[solemn latch]

👀

if (!message.member.hasPermission('MANAGE_MESSAGES')) return message.channel.send(`**You missing required permisison __ADMINISTRATOR__**`)

checking for manage messages, asking for admin

[inner fulcrum]

why does my meme commadn takes years to send

[vivid fulcrum]

it's your code, you tell us

[inner fulcrum]

const https = require('https');
const Discord = require('discord.js');
const url = 'https://www.reddit.com/r/meme/hot/.json?limit=100'

module.exports = {
    name: 'meme',
    description: 'sends meme',
    execute(message, args) {
        https.get(url, (result) => {
            var body = ''
            result.on('data', (chunk) => {
                body += chunk
            })
            result.on('end', () => {
                var response = JSON.parse(body)
                var index = response.data.children[Math.floor(Math.random() * 99) + 1].data
                var image = index.preview.images[0].source.url.replace('&', '&')
                var title = index.title

                const imageembed = new Discord.MessageEmbed()
                    .setTitle(`${title}`)
                    .setImage(image)
                    .setColor(000000)
                message.channel.send(imageembed)
           
            }).on('error', function (e) {
                console.log('Got an error: ', e)
            })
        })
    },
}

is there something extra in this

or my bot is just dum

no errors but its

monke

[lethal trout]

can someone help me with this?

[summer torrent]

imagine using https lib

[inner fulcrum]

shhh

anyways

help me

im dum

[cinder patio]

Did you get the code from this SO post https://stackoverflow.com/questions/61350023/discord-js-meme-command-with-meme-subreddit-returns-image-as-403-forbidden 😬

[earnest phoenix]

Does Button get supported by discord mobile?

[inner fulcrum]

i got it from a friend then i reduced the long code so that i can understand i didnt knew that he took it from stackoverflow

can u tell what is the problem ;-;

[wooden kindle]

ima add some more commands

any1 got suggestions

[clear marlin]

nope

[wooden kindle]

u think its good

[clear marlin]

why is your embeds so messy

just make em one full embed

rather than stacks

[wooden kindle]

1 sec

ill show u

its like this with the help

i just sent all of them to show commands

yk

[lusty quest]

API ratelimits go brrrt

[clear marlin]

the api aside, it actually looks very messy

like one embed or maybe a button menu

could work

[wooden kindle]

yea im working on that next week

gonna add buttons

[lethal trout]

....................

[solemn latch]

honestly, your code is such a mess its very hard to read, so its hard to help.

[latent heron]

hate to be rude but i'm gonna have to agree with Woo

it's really messy

I can't really distinguish what's going on here

[solemn latch]

like, what is going on here?

let first = args[1];

                let user = db.get(`1suggest_${first}_user`)
                let ededembed = new Discord.MessageEmbed()
                    .setAuthor(client.users.cache.get(user).username, client.users.cache.get(user).displayAvatarURL())

you are getting a user from an arg, to get it from a database, to get it from cache, to get its username? the user may not even be cached, since it doesnt seem to be a mention

[woeful pike]

index.preview.images[0].source.url.replace('&', '&')

The code you're looking for is

decodeURIComponent(index.preview.images[0].source.url)

[inner fulcrum]

ah\

[woeful pike]

wait actually no, that's an html entity not an encoded uri char

[signal estuary]

Does anyone know how I can loop trough all users in a guild?

    await msg.guild.members.fetch().then(users => {
        users.forEach(user =>{
            console.log(user.username)
        })
    })

This does not work

[subtle fern]

Hi

[solemn latch]

Member#username doesnt exist

not sure about the fetch stuff, but your current loop will log a bunch of undefined's assuming it fetches them like that

[signal estuary]

yes got it. Nicknames is null too.

[solemn latch]

nickname can be null

not all users have nicknames

[signal estuary]

But username does exist

[solemn latch]

hmm, weird

https://discord.js.org/#/docs/main/stable/class/GuildMember

[signal estuary]

But when I am loggig. user.username it returns undefined

[solemn latch]

ah, i assume here you where logging a users properties?

because in your code, your logging a members username, which doesnt exist.

you just named a member object as a user

[signal estuary]

When I am logging just "user" instead of "user.username" I can see the username property in the console

[solemn latch]

how are you getting that user?

[signal estuary]

await msg.guild.members.fetch().then(users => {}

    await msg.guild.members.fetch().then(users => {
        users.forEach(user =>{
            console.log(user)
        })
    })

[solemn latch]

ok, try changing
console.log(user.username)
to
console.log(user.user.username)

i think you may just be reading the user properties inside of the member object.

[signal estuary]

thx thats it

[solemn latch]

i think my point was just being missed 👀

[signal estuary]

because username is a property of user

[solemn latch]

yeah

[signal estuary]

Does anybody know how I can track errors better. I am logging erros into a database so I can look into this later. But the error doesnt show the line of code where it is caused so idk how to find it

Thats how I log the error:

Does anybody know how I can track errors better. I am logging erros into a database so I can look into this later. But the error doesnt show the line of code where it is caused so idk how to find it
Thats how I log the message:

module.exports.logError = function logError(e) {
    try {
        const mysql = require('mysql')
        let con = mysql.createConnection({
            host: "hoist",
            database: "bot",
            user: "bot",
            password: "wefwwf"

            charset: 'utf8mb4'
        })
        console.log("Error: " + e.message + "\nPath: " +  e.path + "\nStack: " + e.stack)
        con.query('INSERT into exceptions ( message, stack, path, httpstatuscode) VALUES(?,?,?,?)', [e.message, e.stack, e.path, e.httpstatuscode])
        con.end();
    } catch (e) {
        console.log(e);
    }
}

[summer torrent]

https://twitter.com/lydiahallie/status/1410321569113649152?s=20

Lydia Hallie ✨ (@lydiahallie)

Github Copilot has spoken! 🙌

Retweets

1116

Likes

7995

Twitter · Jun 30, 2021, 7:37 PM

[earnest phoenix]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/714045415707770900/860204699688370228/unknown.png

do i have a typo here?

[sly sierra]

to ../commands/${dir}/${file}

on line 19

[earnest phoenix]

that wont work

[sly sierra]

just add ../ for all your readdir lmao

[lusty quest]

if you run prod and you want some top notch error logging look into sentry.io

[quaint wasp]

Why doesn't this shorten the link?

[modest maple]

because you did that backwards

[sly sierra]

cause its Click me

[vivid fulcrum]

hyperlinks only work in field values and descriptions

also that

[quaint wasp]

oh

[sudden geyser]

function getWorstJSLibrary() {
  // return "*"
}

[last tapir]

hello

i've recently modified an object that is inside an array in mongoose.
i've modified that object, but .save() isn't working

[tulip ledge]

anyone knows why my visual studio code isn't autocompleting brackets anymore?
Example I used to be able to type ( and it'd become () but now it just doesn't work anymore

[last tapir]

i cant seem to save that object that is inside the array

[feral aspen]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/51308647/autocomplete-not-working-well-in-visual-studio-code

[tulip ledge]

it sais ctrl +

but that zooms in

and doesn't open the settings

[feral aspen]

https://www.google.com/search?q=visual+studio+code+not+autocompleting&safe=strict&sxsrf=ALeKk02qJT8zas_ltStYItpi2uB6EGE2ow%3A1625160541409&source=hp&ei=XfvdYNbDFo_CgQbOp4yYDQ&iflsig=AINFCbYAAAAAYN4JbUq0D6wTaiEl0SJgcNzZbwRpb8sN&oq=Visual+Studio+Code+Not+Auto&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMYADICCAAyAggAMgIIADICCAAyBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB46BAgjECc6BQgAEJECOgUIABCxAzoOCC4QsQMQgwEQxwEQowI6CAgAELEDEIMBOgsILhCxAxDHARCjAjoECAAQQzoKCAAQsQMQgwEQQzoHCAAQsQMQQzoICAAQsQMQyQM6BwgAEIcCEBQ6CQgAEBYQHhCLAzoICAAQFhAKEB5QyQRY6SNgkShoA3AAeACAAcACiAH4MJIBCDAuMjEuNi4zmAEAoAEBqgEHZ3dzLXdpergBAg&sclient=gws-wiz

[tulip ledge]

enabled this

still doesn't close

[feral aspen]

I'm not sure..

[sudden geyser]

Are you using an extension?

[tulip ledge]

I have a bracket colorizer extension

this one

[feral aspen]

Try removing that...

[tulip ledge]

idk it happened after I installed github copilot

[tulip ledge]

still not working

ok

I managed to fix it

github copilot turned this to never

    "[javascript]": {
        

        "editor.autoClosingBrackets": "always"
    }

[quaint wasp]

still doesnt work

[tulip ledge]

its

text

[quaint wasp]

didnt work here either

oh wait wait

[tulip ledge]

@quaint wasp

[quaint wasp]

text first..

ok

[modest maple]

[feral aspen]

Ladies and gentlemen.
I present to you the idiot who forgot to add await to his method who finally wasted a fuking 12 hours of his day trying to figure out why.

Me.

[modest maple]

[zinc wharf]

Visual studio code is now a dating platform for developers

[quaint wasp]

mm

interesting

[modest maple]

if you run into that issue and dont get a bunch of errors or warnings screaming at you with what ever language you're using, you're concurrency structure is shit and should probably be redesigned and / or stop silencing your errors and warnings

[west spoke]

[quaint wasp]

what the heck..

[sudden geyser]

other way around

[quaint wasp]

doesnt work.

I tried it

[opal plank]

and this is why we use typescript and detritus

[sudden geyser]

[text](url), not (text)[url]

[lyric mountain]

[] = text

[quaint wasp]

o right

[lyric mountain]

() = link

[modest maple]

man

[lusty quest]

or just learn how to use the stupid debugger

[quaint wasp]

the only option i didnt try

[opal plank]

that too

imma work now on the collector for u btw @lusty quest

shouldnt take long

[feral aspen]

Bro.

.findOneAndUpdate()

await .findOneAndUpdate()

.. i had to do the second one.

. I made SO MUCH RESEARCH.

I FORGOT THE AWAIT

[opal plank]

typescript

cough cough

[last tapir]

damn dude, that solved my issue as well, thanks 😂

[feral aspen]

😂

[last tapir]

..

[feral aspen]

Lmfao.

[quaint wasp]

yo the heck is this

it just send an embed when joining a new guild in one of its firsts channels.

[latent heron]

error says exactly what it means

[opal plank]

^^

[latent heron]

you're trying to access discord before the initialization point

[feral aspen]

Don't use Discord. before the const Discord = ...

[opal plank]

and if you read whats AFTER, it should show u exatcly the line too

[quaint wasp]

ya but the discord const is my 4 line and embed is my 59th.

[lyric mountain]

are you by chance using var?

[proven lantern]

hoisting

the best feature of old js

[craggy pine]

Kuu bout to have a stroke is yes.

[quaint wasp]

no i am not

[quaint wasp]

I just simply do const Discord = require('discord.js')

[lyric mountain]

for the embed I mean

[quaint wasp]

no

[proven lantern]

hoister is hoisting the var

[quaint wasp]

ye

no

I am not even sure waht hoister is

[lyric mountain]

doesn't the error contain the line?

[craggy pine]

Probably should share the code so were not guessing

[quaint wasp]

its just that I think veld randomly gave me the nick when i got on his stream channel and started streaming

[quaint wasp]

ok

[proven lantern]

Veld gave me my name too

[quaint wasp]

client.on("guildCreate", guild => {
  console.log(`New guild joined: ${guild.name} (id: ${guild.id}). \n This guild has ${guild.memberCount} members!`);

      const introOnJoinE = new Discord.MessageEmbed()
      .setTitle('Hey, thanks for adding me!')
      .setDescription('If you need any support, please run ++support command!')
      .setColor('BLUE')
      .addField('Prefix', prefix)
      .addField('Bugs', 'The bot is always in development, so new features are added all the time, very often. If you find any bugs, please use ++report (bug) and then after the bug list as much info on how you caused it.')
      .addField('Your my..', `${client.guilds.cache.size}th server!`)
      .addField('Help and list of commands', 'To get that you will need to run ++help. You will get that, and most likly answer your question. If you still have it, please tell us about it in our support server.')
    const channels = guild.channels.cache.filter(channel => channel.type == "text");
  

    channels.first().send(introOnJoinE).catch(e => console.log(e));

  const newC = config.newC
  
  const Discord = require('discord.js')
  const newE = new Discord.MessageEmbed()
    .setColor('#27FF00')
    .setTitle('NEW SERVER JOINED')
    .addField('MEMBERS', guild.memberCount)
    .addField('NAME', guild.name)
    .addField(`ID:`, guild.id)
    .addField(`GUILD OWNER:`, guild.owner)
    .setFooter('Time joined', client.user.displayAvatarURL())
    .setTimestamp();
    client.channels.cache.get(newC).send(newE)
});

my const Discord is wayyy up

[craggy pine]

You made the embed way before the const discord thing

[earnest phoenix]

yep discord definetely defined on line 4

totally not redefined above newE

[proven lantern]

hoist this const Discord = require('discord.js')

[craggy pine]

Introjoin embed is like 100000 lines above const discord require discord

[quaint wasp]

oh wait lol

that kinda there for some reason...

[opal plank]

bruh what IDE are u using

it shoul'dve told u

wtf

[proven lantern]

atom?

[quaint wasp]

uhh

[opal plank]

doubt atom wouldnt catch that

either you really overlooked it, or atom is not setup for js coding

[earnest phoenix]

Atom doesn't have built in typescript

[quaint wasp]

ya i am not home so I cant really use VSC... so I use pebblehost code editor as my code editor..

[opal plank]

big yikes

any decent editor would've told you that

for CODING, at least

[earnest phoenix]

And the community one it has always crashes my ubuntu

[opal plank]

notepad wouldnt

[quaint wasp]

wait should const discord even be there or should I get rid of it?

or put it somewhere up

like above the intro message embed

[opal plank]

u have 2 Discord from what i can see

but they are shadowed

[earnest phoenix]

i love my pc's error handling
try { shit } catch() { Object.freeze(process) }

[opal plank]

cuz u use it twice

so it wont pull from the first one

it'll try from the second cuz its inside the function

[earnest phoenix]

Put it right at the start

Nothing other than command files should be imported anywhere other than the top

[opal plank]

@quaint wasp

[proven lantern]

put all require stuff at the top

[opal plank]

a, as you can see, should be highlighted

[quaint wasp]

?

oh

[opal plank]

like i said, any IDE should've given u that error before u event ran ur bot

i'd recommend switching if whatever u using isnt doing at the very least, this

[quaint wasp]

ye..

[proven lantern]

if you have a student email you can get a free version of intellij ultimate

[opal plank]

just get vsc

popular, works, light, and has a shitton of extensions

[limber mica]

Pass in “a” to the function :)

[opal plank]

i really hope that was sarcastic

like, really hope

[limber mica]

It was

[opal plank]

good

[limber mica]

Lol

[opal plank]

gotta make sure, some people here do that

[proven lantern]

reassigning variables is a code smell

[opal plank]

scope blocked variable declaration is the term i think

or shadowing a variable

cuz it makes it inacessible

you'll never be able to acces the first "a" from inside the function

[limber mica]

But erwin why are you reassigning the variable like 10000 times

[proven lantern]

mutation in general is a code smell

[opal plank]

imma bonk u

[proven lantern]

https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2017/08/code-smells-mutation/

[earnest phoenix]

teenage mutant ninja turtles
more like
teenage immutable scoped variables

[proven lantern]

they didn't know about all the issue around "mutantation" back then

[limber mica]

Best. Post. Ever.

[earnest phoenix]

javascript (mocha at the time) was made in 1996

[proven lantern]

there were some real FP languages before that so i guess they knew already, but didn't care

[modest maple]

[quartz kindle]

[opal plank]

@lusty quest i got good news and bad news

good news is that i managed to do what i wanted

bad news is that i cannot find a way to implement it in ts

intellisence, at least

the moment i extend and re-declare it, it doesnt like it

but the usage is still there

it just doesnt like the way im extending it

[proven lantern]

oop much?

[opal plank]

and implements keyword fucks up the declaration

cant seem to merge it

[proven lantern]

composition over inheritance

[opal plank]

what?

[proven lantern]

dont build inheritance structures

[opal plank]

y not?

[proven lantern]

less flexible

[opal plank]

thats exactly what i need

[proven lantern]

less flexibility?

[opal plank]

i need something that works

it compiles fine

its just on IDE that its screeching

[proven lantern]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composition_over_inheritance

[opal plank]

not even ts-ignore gets rid of that

im not doing that tho

lib exports a class.
i redeclare it so everywhere else u have the new types
however i need to modify its prototypes to add the actual logic/function

thats it

i already do that quite a bit tbh

[proven lantern]

that's tricky

[opal plank]

but this case is a bit finicky

[proven lantern]

like programming on quicksand

[sudden geyser]

basically value interfaces and abstractions over inheritance

[opal plank]

i need inheritence

im not the dev of the lib

i'd like to avoid modifying other people's stuff

[sudden geyser]

you probably don't

[opal plank]

im extending it

thats it

both in the declarations and its logic

[sudden geyser]

but inheritance and composition are just two different ways of modeling

so pick either one

[opal plank]

im still confused tbh

[lyric mountain]

inheritance is fine in some cases

[proven lantern]

here's a youtube video about it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfMtDGfHWpA

[opal plank]

//lib code//
declare class Message extends Base{
  a:number;
}


//my code
<Message>.b = 2;

thats literally what i need

without casting it everytime

i already do that

but i need to modify the constructor itself

not only add a property in it

so everytime the native constructor is called, it has what i need

aka b

//index.ts

export class customMessage extends Message {
  clap() {
    console.log('clap');
  }
}

function mixin(target: any) {
  const parent = Reflect.getPrototypeOf(target);
  for (const key of Reflect.ownKeys(target.prototype).slice(1)) {
    //@ts-ignore
    parent.prototype[key] = target.prototype[key];
  }
}

mixin(customMessage);

//overrides.d.ts
declare module 'detritus-client/lib/structures' {
  interface Message {
    clap: () => void;
  }
}


//usage command.ts
message.clap(); 

if i choose not to use extends, and instead use implements, the declaration wont properly work

[proven lantern]

just use maps and arrays. no classes

ez

[lyric mountain]

sometimes you just need to add logic to classes' methods, that's where inheritance comes in

[opal plank]

thats the thing, its on the contructor

i cant modify it without adding its proptypes

[lyric mountain]

like, I have a list where a value gets assigned to every object added to it

[opal plank]

best i could do is call super() and implement my own, but thats janky as fuck

[lyric mountain]

all I had to do was extend the ArrayList class and modify add methods

[opal plank]

ah fuck it, im adding a helper rather than doing this shit

import the helper and use it instead

[proven lantern]

why are you making your own classes?

[opal plank]

why would i not make my own classes?

[lyric mountain]

can't u?

[opal plank]

thats what the extension is for

i dont think so

[proven lantern]

no benefit and it makes the code less flexible

[opal plank]

we still going on the "less flexible" route, but im looking for a solution here

not improvements

[proven lantern]

use a helper class

[opal plank]

,

[lyric mountain]

export class Custom extends OtherClass {
  let customParam;

  constructor(a, b, c, custom) {
    super(a, b, c);
    customParam = custom;
  }
}

[proven lantern]

but the helper class should have no member functions

[lyric mountain]

doesn't js have something like this?

[proven lantern]

only real functions

[opal plank]

also what i said

[opal plank]

,

it'd be best to actually change the original constructor

[lyric mountain]

just do the super way

it basically overwrites constructor

[opal plank]

kinda afraid fo fucking that tbh

yolo, doing my way with a helper outside this whole mess

too much shit in this already

[proven lantern]

the mess of oop

[opal plank]

its just a ts thing

like i said, it compiles fine

cuz it imports the ref

[lyric mountain]

nah, oop is very clean

[proven lantern]

dont use the bad parts of ts

[opal plank]

this does the trick for me on transpile

cuz it pulls the Message

its just on the IDE side that u get an error

but it compiles just fine

but that annoyance is bothering me too much

[proven lantern]

oop is a mess. you can call the same function twice and get different results. that's confusing

[lyric mountain]

not really

[opal plank]

shit code exists everywhere

[lyric mountain]

if you call a function twice you'll get the same result twice UNLESS you're modifying variables

[proven lantern]

if you make an object and then set the state of that object and then call a function on that object that depends on the state then you messed up

[lyric mountain]

well, that's how real objects work

if you make a hole in a hardwood plank it'll still have a hole if you try again

[proven lantern]

why reuse the hardwood? just get a new piece and do the same operation

then you get the same answer always

[lyric mountain]

what if you want to fill the hole with epoxy?

[proven lantern]

const holeFilled = fillHole(woodWithHole)```

[lyric mountain]

const plankWithResin = makeHole(woodWithoutHole).fillHole();

[proven lantern]

vs

fillHole(woodWithoutHole)```

fillHole(woodWithoutHole) at this point woodWithoutHole actually has a hole

[lyric mountain]

yes

[proven lantern]

broken

[cinder patio]

So you're suggesting to basically make everything immutable and change values by cloning

[lyric mountain]

why have twice the variables when you could make sequential modifications?

like, imagine building a car

[proven lantern]

functional programming rules for 99% of the code

[lyric mountain]

but you buy a new piece for every operation

[proven lantern]

then the imperative shell can mutate stuff

[proven lantern]

yeah

that's fine

[lyric mountain]

it'd result in a huge code with a shitton of variables

each holding a reference until gc runs

[cinder patio]

Even worse, wouldn't it create a bigger memory footprint

especially in langs which aren't optimized for this

[proven lantern]

you can do this too const woodWithHoleFilled = fillHole(makeHole(woodWithoutHole));

[lyric mountain]

that's...what I said

[lyric mountain]

then you have a huge chain of internal method calls

[lyric mountain]

compare with this

[proven lantern]

they can run on multiple processors since they dont share state

easier to run in parallel

or concurrently

[sudden geyser]

I think the issue here is you're trying to fight against the language's native paradigms. You probably wouldn't be writing software utilizing concurrency in JavaScript in the first place.

[proven lantern]

the main thing is that it make code easier to reason about

[lyric mountain]

now, let's step up a bit: ```js
const hardWoodTable = makeHole(woodWithoutHole)
.setColor("Royal blue")
.fillHole()
.addLegs(4)
.paint();

[sudden geyser]

The builder pattern sucks anyway

[proven lantern]

does paint() rely on there being legs added first?

[lyric mountain]

yes

[proven lantern]

broken again

have fun making a change to that

[lyric mountain]

now, let's step up a bit: ```js
const hardWoodTable = makeHole(woodWithoutHole);
hardWoodTable.setColor("Royal blue");
hardWoodTable.fillHole();
hardWoodTable.addLegs(4);
hardWoodTable.paint();

non-builder pattern

[lyric mountain]

just...remove the legs?

or use methods to modify the state

[sudden geyser]

That's the same problem with the builder pattern I have.

[cinder patio]

that's still the builder pattern tho

[proven lantern]

and update the paint method to forget about the legs

[latent heron]

Type interference languages

[lyric mountain]

isnt

I'm not building anything there

I'm just modifying the state with ops

[proven lantern]

hardWoodTable.convertToMetalTable()

[sudden geyser]

Too many builders imo have required fields that they don't require you to set when initializing the builder.

[proven lantern]

now hardWoodTable is actually a metal table

[sudden geyser]

So when you call .build() you instead get an error

plus it's imperative

[lyric mountain]

that's a bad thing

builders are nice for many optional configs

[proven lantern]

imperative bad, declarative good

[sudden geyser]

In that case yeah

[lyric mountain]

yes, what about it?

[sudden geyser]

You can still be declarative while using a "builder" design.

e.g. SwiftUI & Jetpack Compose

[proven lantern]

that's the problem with mutations. you start off with something and then change it a bunch. the order in which you change it matters so it ends up being really confusing to reason about

[cinder patio]

You can still use imperative programming and avoid that problem though.

I don't really get what the issue is

[lyric mountain]

that's not really an issue regarding OOP but logic

[proven lantern]

logic doesn't have that issue

[lament rock]

Why does writing a thread pool implementation suck

[sudden geyser]

because you're using threads

[proven lantern]

logic is math and math follows the rules of FP

f(x) = x

[sudden geyser]

identity!

[lament rock]

threads aren't that bad. Not needing the threads to send arbitrary ops to the parent or vice versa is good and easy to implement

[proven lantern]

you cant do f(x) = x and then say actually f(x) = z now

[lyric mountain]

I mean, if you went the way you were saying, you'd have:```js
const woodWithHole = makeHole(woodWithoutHole);
const WoodWithColoredHole = setColor(woodWithHole, "Royal blue");
const woodWithBlueHole = fillHole(coloredWoodWithHole );
const woodWithLegs = addLegs(woodWithBlueHole , 4);
const hardWoodTable = paint(woodWithLegs );

that screams spaghetti

[proven lantern]

put that in a function in it's own file. rule of thumb to not have the line numbers go past 150-200

[lyric mountain]

logic is also "if you kick a dog, dog will bite"

you still have a shitton of variables

one for each mutation

[lament rock]

logic is quite arbitrary

[proven lantern]

i'm talking about set and logic

the one that follows the rules of math

[lyric mountain]

I'm talking about coding logic

[proven lantern]

that's sets and logic

[lament rock]

pseudo-random number generation somewhat breaks set and logic since you theoretically can predict the logic, but it's not guaranteed to follow a shallow expectation

coding logic isn't exactly set and logic. Plus, protocols change

[proven lantern]

a fp random number generator takes a seed value to work off of. it'll always produce the same random numbers with the same seed

[lament rock]

that's why I was saying you could predict the output, but I'm sure no one bothers to try to predict it

[proven lantern]

hackers do

bad random number generators can make a vulnerability in the system

[lament rock]

their methods don't exactly follow prediction, but brute forcing

[proven lantern]

they observe the patterns after gathering enough of the output

computers are not good at actually being random

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_number_generator_attack

[lyric mountain]

actually, true random doesn't exist

[proven lantern]

perhaps

[sudden geyser]

Not perhaps.

[lyric mountain]

no, it really doesnt

[sudden geyser]

It's fact.

[lyric mountain]

everything is reversable

[frozen topaz]

depends on the source of randomness

[sudden geyser]

There is no such thing as true randomness.

[frozen topaz]

and the general guessability of a number

[lyric mountain]

say a source that is truly random

[frozen topaz]

the important metric isn't really "randomness" but more "guessability"

[lament rock]

of course pseudo-random generators follow specific logic which can be "static", that doesn't mean logic has to be described as static because variance still occurs.
By your logic, we cannot be random because our environment as well as our hormones affect our behaviors.

[proven lantern]

entropy?

[lyric mountain]

entropy is reversable

like, not necessarily possible to achieve

but is reversable

[frozen topaz]

once again, randomness isn't really the metric here...its guessability

[proven lantern]

like after all energy has been used it'll collapse and then to another big bang?

[frozen topaz]

"how hard would it be for [xx malicious party] to guess this number?"

thats really all that matters, not randomness...those things happen to be very similar but the difference is that hard-to-guess-ability is achievable, randomness....well its a lot harder

[lyric mountain]

no, like, if you reverse time entropy will go backwards

since it is time-dependant

[proven lantern]

but going back in time is not a thing

[lyric mountain]

also entropy goes backward on negative kelvins

[lyric mountain]

that's what I said

[lament rock]

I think this is getting a bit de-railed from "development"

[lyric mountain]

it IS reversable, just not achievable

[sudden geyser]

It's still development-related, but better discussions could take place

[frozen topaz]

random number generation is pretty reasonable of a discussion to have for development

as are the security implications of improper number generation

[lament rock]

it seems to no longer be such

[proven lantern]

doesn't that mean it's not reversable?

[lyric mountain]

not being achievable doesn't make something impossible

[proven lantern]

what the difference?

[lyric mountain]

former implies that it's not possible to do something with current technology/knowledge

[proven lantern]

after something hasn't happened it's impossible for that thing to have happened because it didn't happen

[frozen topaz]

not achievable - we currently can't do it but eventually we might be able to (ex a quantum computer in your pocket)
impossible - laws of the universe, etc. (ex surpassing speed of light)

[proven lantern]

it's only possible before the time passes

[lyric mountain]

quantum tunneling as data transfer is an example of non-achievable but possible thing

[proven lantern]

doing that yesterday is impossible

unless it did happen

[frozen topaz]

i'd say that currently, truly random numbers are not achievable...but the alternative (the randomness apis built into your OS) is good enough for anything that anyone in a discord bot development server would be making

[opal plank]

laughs in threads

[sudden geyser]

os threads or discord threads

[frozen topaz]

it seems that the universe has sources of randomness (positions of parts of certain particles can appear/disperse rapidly and in random positions that show no short or long term patterns and can't (as far as we can tell) be influenced by outside sources....but that won't be built into your phone anytime soon

[frozen topaz]

discord threads

they're pretty good

going to be a massive pain in the ass but ya know, pretty cool

[opal plank]

need a thread bot here tbh. When something is getting too heated, just do !thread, if 5x people do it within x time, open a thread for them to clean chat off their shit.

(i want royalties if u stealing this idea)

[frozen topaz]

also going to kill basically all ticket bots lol

[sudden geyser]

yeah they would be nice

[lyric mountain]

that's reversable by time manipulation too

[sudden geyser]

I plan on using them in a server of mine for spoiler-oriented discussions so chat won't look like a classified CIA document

[lyric mountain]

a true random thing would have to be something that isn't influenced by anything other than itself

[frozen topaz]

discord will release this in like a month with proper ui and not some garbage solution...we've waited 5 years or whatever, we can wait another 2 months

[lyric mountain]

not even time (as in, if you reverse time that "thing" wouldn't be there anymore even at the same moment it appeared before)

[opal plank]

threads require permissions to be opened. i had threads for almost 2 months now

hence the need for a bot, otherwise people would just spam open them

[frozen topaz]

yes for encryption applications this is 100% true

[lyric mountain]

sadly, time does influence it

[frozen topaz]

threads have only been available for like 4 days...

[lament rock]

Threads have been available in select guilds previously

[opal plank]

for you, perhaps

[frozen topaz]

yes

[frozen topaz]

no, for the entire platform...

[modest maple]

no...

[frozen topaz]

https://discordapp.com/channels/613425648685547541/697138785317814292/859161826168406036

[modest maple]

they've only be fully available for anyone to opt in in the last 4 days

[frozen topaz]

sure they released for their special beta guilds a while back, but not platform-wide

[modest maple]

in the same way select buttons have been around for about a month and have only just released them to the public

[frozen topaz]

the opt-in thing is now platform-wide for those of us who can't manipulate random number generation lmao

[lament rock]

it wasn't even just for official guilds

[opal plank]

#general message

i was in whitelist way before they were out my dude

they released them for libdevs

and big bot devs

[frozen topaz]

cool

[opal plank]

[frozen topaz]

good for you?

[lyric mountain]

thanos beta...again

[opal plank]

so dont call me out then

[opal plank]

,

[frozen topaz]

yeah, for the public

you are 1 person with early access

the public has had it for 4 days or whatever (I think its more like 2)

[opal plank]

what does publicity have to do with what i said?

[frozen topaz]

maybe there were 100 people with early access, i'm assuming all the big lib devs got it

[modest maple]

man, i would just give in and admit you were incorrect at trying to call him out on it lol

[frozen topaz]

everything? a feature being public or private literally defines its existence/availability

[lament rock]

?

[opal plank]

i said u need permission to open a thread, so instead of giving everyone permission, just use a bot when its out

it ahs nothing to do with how it works

being public or not

it requires permissions

period

[lyric mountain]

normally discord does the so called "thanos beta" where half the ids get it and half doesn't

[opal plank]

i never even stated the fact that it was public or not

[frozen topaz]

what do you want me to say? sorry I didn't know about some niche early access program where a tiny select group of people had access to it?

[opal plank]

that does not change the fact of what i said

[lyric mountain]

plus some special individuals like famous streamers and big devs

threads are already a thing since official docs were released

[frozen topaz]

yes

[lament rock]

the docs for threads have been out for a long time

[frozen topaz]

I was unaware anyone had access to them since the docs dropped

[opal plank]

then what does it ebing public or not change the fact that it requires a permission?

[lyric mountain]

no, like, the final docs

[frozen topaz]

I figured they were putting the docs out in advance before they had a final-ish UI out

[modest maple]

Man has been under a rock for a while

[proven lantern]

🧵 so not achievable is just currently not achievable, but maybe someday or maybe not someday

[frozen topaz]

it doesn't and I said nothing of the sort

[lyric mountain]

yes

[frozen topaz]

or maybe I just don't care

[modest maple]

[opal plank]

#development message u did tho

[proven lantern]

i can agree with that

[frozen topaz]

I was responding to the second section of that message, after the period

[opal plank]

i was commenting on the fact a bot could be used to prevent having to add @ everyone with permissions to open threads. then out of nowhere u implied that it wasnt out. like it changes what i said tho

[frozen topaz]

I could care less about the permissions lol

[modest maple]

thats grammatically incorrect

im sorry but grammar trigger right there

[opal plank]

how does that change the fact tho?

[modest maple]

it's couldn't* care less

[opal plank]

i added dropdowns an hour after it was out

[frozen topaz]

yes but thats also the saying so I won't change it

but yeah I agree very annoying

i've learned to just accept it 😛

[lyric mountain]

that technically means he cares so much that he's at the ceiling of caring

[frozen topaz]

it doesn't...?

[opal plank]

then?

[frozen topaz]

exactly, very stupid expression...really should be "couldn't care less" being at the "floor" of caring

[frozen topaz]

you should stop dragging out this pissing contest?

[opal plank]

you could've stopped anytime

[frozen topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/reverse-card-uno-uno-cards-gif-13032597

[opal plank]

and then goes on to post that

[fresh verge]

What is this?

[limber mica]

Is there a way to check if a channel exists at all?

[earnest phoenix]

You tried making a request to a URL but it wasn't found

[earnest phoenix]

yes, what lib are you using?

[limber mica]

disc.js

[earnest phoenix]

Use <Collection>.has() on <Client>.channels.cache

[fresh verge]

The only request think should be the autoposter sooo.

[earnest phoenix]

May you show us the full error message? That doesn't seem to be coming from @top-gg/autoposter or anything

[limber mica]

So something like message.guild.channels.exists(<CHANNEL ID>)

[earnest phoenix]

<Guild>.channels.cache.has(<Channel ID>)

[rocky hearth]

for music bots, ytdl-core is good or ytdl-core-discord?

[earnest phoenix]

Going for ytdl-core should be fine, the other one is just a wrapper for it and its bloated

[earnest phoenix]

Not sure, are you using the top.gg's autoposter? If so what version of it are you using?

[rocky hearth]

but that says, ytdl-core-discord will improve perfomance greatly

[earnest phoenix]

It won't

[rocky hearth]

does ytdl-core, takes opus streams by default? from youtube?

[earnest phoenix]

yes, basically just takes a YouTube URL and downloads it and converts it to a readable stream

I mean you could use ytdl-core-discord if you want as its made by the owner of discord.js, but not sure if it actually improves performance

You could compare their efficiency and performance by trying both I guess

[limber mica]

Now im having even more errors, so if a user does NOT ping a channel it just crashes because how can you find the id of undefined?

So can i check if the user actually pinged a channel

[fresh verge]

Idk, but it doesn’t happen often. Like 1 in every 1000 posts it gives the error while the other 999 are successful.

[earnest phoenix]

Then use <Message>.mentions.channels.first() and check if its not undefined with an if statement

[limber mica]

durr

[earnest phoenix]

const channel = ...;

if (!channel) { ... }

...

[limber mica]

yep

[rocky hearth]

also can u tell me, what sodium is used for?

[limber mica]

thats it

[lyric mountain]

when mixed with chloride it makes salt

[limber mica]

When mixed with bleach it makes mustard gass

[earnest phoenix]

Then nothing much you can really do about that, its a common error

[rocky hearth]

Oops, i mean in discord bots

[limber mica]

I know, just messin with ya

[lyric mountain]

hmm interesting

[earnest phoenix]

Lib sodium aka the black-box, its used in discord.js to create random bytes and stuff like that
https://github.com/jedisct1/libsodium

[lyric mountain]

ah, like salt (as in "salting the hash")