#development
boreal iron
Nobody experienced with rewrite rules? 
Source https://test.com/xyz?key=123
Target /index.php?value=xyz&key=123
Where xyz can be anything (even an URL)
Got an issue with the query string transforming the first argument (starting with a ? to a &)
latent heron
are you working with PHP?
the target should be able to use $_SERVER["QUERY_STRING"] although all ? keys will be replaced with &, so you could just do:
$uri = $_SERVER["QUERY_STRING"];
print_r(explode("&", $uri));
if value is always at the first fragment of the query-string, then [0] will easily access it for you. @boreal iron
boreal iron
are you working with PHP?
Doing it in PHP isn’t the issue.
The rewrite rules are an issue as they are supposed to redirect the request not PHP.
latent heron
where specifically lies the issue with the rewrite?
boreal iron
It seems impossible to append the query string (stating by an ? of course)
opal plank
@solemn latch ts const fetch = require('node-fetch'); fetch('https://755600276941176913.discordsays.com/api/authenticate', { headers: { 'accept': '*/*', 'accept-language': 'pt-BR', 'content-type': 'application/json', 'sec-fetch-dest': 'empty', 'sec-fetch-mode': 'cors', 'sec-fetch-site': 'same-origin', }, referrer: 'https://755600276941176913.discordsays.com/', referrerPolicy: 'no-referrer-when-downgrade', body: '{"code":"FKNvSQG1VHKlNrGC8zJs6u2BpMpvPf"}', method: 'POST', mode: 'cors', }).then(async (e: any) => console.log(await e.json()));
thats what i was using i think
latent heron
so you're saying the ?value=xyz is already instantiated but you're having issues already adding onto it?
uhh i mean you could just do like
boreal iron
so you're saying the `?value=xyz` is already instantiated but you're having issu...
/value?key=123
/index.php?id=value&key=123
opal plank
the url must be made specifically for that
boreal iron
With rewrite rules, not PHP
latent heron
that's proper though
boreal iron
Quite a complicated rewrite rule if its even possible
latent heron
are you trying to take the query-string from /value and bring it to /index.php?
i'm super lost
i mean i get you're trying to rewrite
opal plank
@solemn latch and to top it off, im not sure i was even suppose to send that, cuz that was pre-release method of doing it
solemn latch
Whoops
latent heron
but it should be possible
opal plank
i had the idea of using the bot to queue in videos
but it was annoying to reverse engineer it
boreal iron
are you trying to take the query-string from `/value` and bring it to `/index.ph...
In this example value is NO query string but ?key=… is
opal plank
it was using some sketchy shit to replicate
latent heron
alright, that much i get
boreal iron
I wanna rewrite the “fake path” plus the query string
latent heron
and by rewrite you quite literally mean copy off of it, correct?
boreal iron
In my case the fake path can be any value even an URL
Err huh?
If that’s the right term for rewriting URLs then yes 
latent heron
well rewrite is generally a term for either refactoring something or dealing with an HTTP server
but if im guessing your definition of this, you're trying to copy the URL value and the query-string
boreal iron
Almost played around for 2 hours with rewrite rules and conditions and couldn’t get it to work
Rewriting the URL if the query string starts with an & works of course
latent heron
ohh
christ i know what you're talking about
you're talking about constructing the URL path into a query string right
?
That's the only other thing I can imagine this as
boreal iron
Since the target (index.php?lookup) has a valid query string behind already
latent heron
you want to literally rewrite the whole URL path into a query-string?
is that what you mean?
for example
from: localhost/endpoint/12345/keyval
to: localhost/endpoint?key=12345&key=keyval
Yes with the issue appending the already existing query string to the new rewritten variant
Source https://test.com/xyz?key=123
Target /index.php?value=xyz&key=123
Where xyz can be anything (even an URL)
latent heron
and you're trying to determine if the ? exists
boreal iron
That’s the example
Doesn’t matter if key exists or not
If not it will not be appended to the target
latent heron
gotcha
can you give me an example of the source you're trying to rewrite then?
because this example differs
there's 2 approaches i know to what i believe you're trying to do
boreal iron
Sure gimme 1 minute
RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} index\.php [NC,OR]
RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} lookup [NC]
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ /$1 [R=401,L]
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ /index.php?lookup=$1 [PT,L]
Requesting the URL including index.php… will end in a 404
This example does append any query things but not if it starts with a ?
boreal iron
Yeah will have a look at home later if I’m back at home
uneven estuary
hello, im trying to use tenor to send gifs in an embed but it doesnt seem to work, if it was send as a normal msg then it works fine,
i read a while ago that tenor had some issues with sending gifs in embed, i wanna know if its still a problem? ive been trying to look it up but couldnt find anything ( using v12 )
pale vessel
You need to use the direct GIF URL
Discord embeds it for you if you send it but you can't do that on embeds
uneven estuary
so the only option i have is to use arrays not auto generated, or is there a way to make it get the url instead?
latent heron
How exactly does one return a JSON response for an endpoint in PHP? Would this be proper?
$endpoint = "https://test.com/api/endpoint";
$json = json_encode(file_get_contents("to_send.json"));
header(implode("\r\n", ["Content-Type: application/json", "Location: $endpoint"]));
echo $json;
It should be a string
and you tell the API that you're sending a JSON response/text (The content-type header does that)
latent heron
well right, I am making the API for that
pale vessel
So remove that json_encode
latent heron
don't you need to encode the JSON before sending a header request for it though?
because i need to actually return the JSON itself
pale vessel
What's that location header for?
latent heron
for the actual endpoint
just like how top.gg has https://top.gg/api/bots
imagine bots for endpoint here
im trying to write the JSON content to that specific location
what should realistically be happening with my PHP is that the endpoints are regularly updated on a timed interval (because what I'm trying to accomplish is randomly-generated JSON for a specific endpoint)
and all it does is forcibly writes it to that location
slender thistle
Does file_get_contents return an array? Seems like json_encode requires an array https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4064444/returning-json-from-a-php-script
pale vessel
Wait aren't you encoding a string?
latent heron
yeah, i was looking ironically at that Stack post specifically on this
slender thistle
What's preventing you from echoing that string?
latent heron
yes but it encapsulates b"" onto it
because of HTTP formatting
that's why I can't just directly echo the string itself
I essentially have to serialize the JSON content when I am returning it with the content-type header
which iirc is handled under the serialize_production: int parameter
lofty cedar
how can i send files in discord_buttons_plugin with ctx.reply? And how can I do that buttons could be pressed only by the command sender and how make buttons disabled after clicked
slender thistle
latent heron
isn't discord.Attachment the object that handles that automatically for you
slender thistle
Is it Attachment and not Component?
latent heron
for files, it's attachment
IDK a lot about the discord_buttons_plugin library
but I can give you help for the discord-interactions library
pale vessel
I don't know why you're encoding the string, it'll look like this
latent heron
that's proper
pale vessel
It's not
crimson vapor
"{"success":true}"
latent heron
the \ is just avoiding breaking the "" syntax
pale vessel
What
latent heron
yes
lofty cedar
but I can give you help for the discord-interactions library
Does it implement buttons?
latent heron
if you're trying to use " in a ""-existent PHP string you employ the backslash to avoid formatting break
latent heron
Does it implement buttons?
yea we have buttons in our library
this server is where you can get the help for it
pale vessel
That's not what I meant
latent heron
wdym then?
it's not going to affect the way the JSON appears directly on the page
well, it should, it should type the JSON in the literal form it exists as, so it does but not with any presumptive flaws
pale vessel
It's just redundant
latent heron
i'm not keen to write a for loop to do it for me
pale vessel
It also makes the response ugly, but I digress
latent heron
that's also because you're printing out the format in an IDE
so ofc the response will look ugly 😅
my problem is, i'm trying to use the Location: header
but when you do a header like that esp. in PHP, it forces the location to change before the PHP echo is executed
because theoretically, the echo is going to display the JSON contents in your .php script before the location is executed
and i have no actual idea how to work around that
proven lantern
I don't know why you're encoding the string, it'll look like this
you'll need to JSON.parse that to turn it into JSON. That's a string
pale vessel
you'll need to JSON.parse that to turn it into JSON. That's a string
It works without encoding it (it's already a string)
pale vessel
You're turning a string of JSON to a string that contains a string of JSON
latent heron
aight ill drop the encoding then
proven lantern
you'd use content-type:text/plain for the stringified version of the JSON. content-type:application/json for JSON
latent heron
Content type is not my problem
Its the location
Because the echo will likely execute before the location is changed
Refer to what I wrote above
modest maple
reading through this im confused
now i may not know php
but im pretty sure there is some fairly serious miss information being given around here
modest maple
you'd use `content-type:text/plain` for the stringified version of the JSON. `co...
Mostly in this line 
because unless there's some special thing im missing. In the world of HTTP everything is serialised, you cannot just essentially just print the json straight to text and mark it as json content type, the JSON must be properly serialised to a string / bytes.
The content-type: application/json is what tells the server / client what it should do with the content, e.g. if it's json content type it knows it has to deserialize the content from a string / bytes back to the object.
what you dont do is mark serialised JSON as text/plain because technically that will lead to alot of clients and servers miss handling the request /response
boreal iron
Because the echo will likely execute before the location is changed
What’s the issue?
You can’t send headers because they got sent already?
proven lantern
are you echoing out the HTTP headers?
stiff lynx
I want to do a website foto my discord bot, with express, but if I host the bot on a vps how can I see the Pages or access the website?
latent heron
Mostly in this line <:KannaWhat:698272364261015604> because unless there's some ...
Right, so I figured I need to serialize it first before sending
modest maple
you do
latent heron
Sending serialized information as plain is bad
modest maple
and you should
modest maple
If they're telling you not to, ignore them, they're committing war crimes against http
modest maple
if you're sending JSON data it should be fully serialised and escaped
latent heron
Won't the echo be executed before the location changes?
How can I actually include the JSON with the headers ?
lyric mountain
who told u not to serialize before sending through http?
modest maple
Idk php so idk it's behaviour like that
latent heron
Uh I don't think they said not to
modest maple
latent heron
They just assumed since its a string there was no need to
boreal iron
How can I actually include the JSON with the headers ?
Why would you do this?
lyric mountain
technically strings are already serialized
latent heron
I'm trying to define endpoints
I dont.. think they understand how strings have bit shifting values in php 😅
modest maple
yeah welcome to my hell
latent heron
More importantly
lyric mountain
wtf
lyric mountain
because you're not sending text
modest maple
miss information is why we went up with web servers returning html content types for JSON encoded data
lyric mountain
like
latent heron
You always should use the correct content type
lyric mountain
imagine if I was selling a car
and published it as "big chunk of metal with wheels"
modest maple
and how we end up with people not escaping the strings correctly and leading to all kinds of foolery
lyric mountain
is it technically right? yes
should u use that way? hell no
latent heron
This is why I ask from people who actually use PHP in correspondence with the content type 
latent heron
I try to study how HTTP responses work for a reason
lyric mountain
also, some browsers interpret the result differently depending on content type
boreal iron
This is why I ask from people who actually use PHP in correspondence with the co...
You always set the correct content type.
latent heron
My highest role involves me making interactions with an API which is important for that
I have to use the correct headers
latent heron
Oh my
boreal iron
You expect the response being in the right format not just weird text
lyric mountain
it's the best lookup documentation for content types
latent heron
Can we stop talking about the content type and talk about the location header instead LMAO
That's my problem
limber mica
So when trying to shard, how do i get a user ID and dm them whilw doing it across all the shards?
latent heron
Ignore the fixation about the type right now
I actually need the content to be on the specified location
latent heron
okay let me repeat it for the 3rd time then
Im currently specifying 2 headers, one for the content type as json and the location header so it redirects the contents to a page
but naturally, when you use Location: url you have url with an actual existent page
what im doing here is specifying the url as /api/endpoint which is what you should do
lyric mountain
inb4, you need to pass redirect status if u plan on using location
latent heron
but im using echo to display the JSON contents on the page before the Location: url is executed
so my issue is
My JSON contents are actually being displayed on the .php page itself
instead of the specified location
because it's not a proper URL type and instead an endpoint
boreal iron
hmmm, now I'm confused
Not only you
lyric mountain
location only specifies where the browser should take the user to (when status is of redirect type)
boreal iron
Looks like he wanna send the result to a different endpoint
proven lantern
screen share time
pale vessel
You can't mimic a fake location with the content you gave, if that's what you're trying to do
latent heron
precisely the issue.
lyric mountain
you can, however, make the api send a request to another url
like, the client calls the api -> the api calls another api
latent heron
that's a simple way of oversighting what i've essentially said haha
lyric mountain
but that's server side
boreal iron
Using curl for example
latent heron
why would i do that
lyric mountain
idk, that's what I understood
latent heron
hold on i'm mocking the example right now
latent heron
yes
that's why
i'm writing it
yeah, i can't figure out a proper way to do this
Location: url has to have the url have an existing page for a specified directory, regardless
So even if I made subdirectories /api/endpoint it's going to register it as a source that requires an existing page
boreal iron
You wanna do the redirects via. PHP
Use the webserver instead and process the request at the location it’s supposed to be
latent heron
it won't be an actual /endpoint, then it'll be /endpoint/
and i'm not trying to turn it into an existing subdirectory
lofty cedar
how can I do that buttons could be pressed only by the command sender in discord_buttons_plugin? and how to make buttons disabled after clicked?
boreal iron
it won't be an actual `/endpoint`, then it'll be `/endpoint/`
That’s exactly the issue mentioned before
lyric mountain
ohhhh wait
earnest phoenix
php wont transform the url from endpoint to folder
What exactly was it again discord is planning to release with its api. I think you said it was menus right?
lyric mountain
I think I'm gettin it
lyric mountain
What exactly was it again discord is planning to release with its api. I think y...
yes, and they will
dropdown is in the next corner already
earnest phoenix
Oh really?
lyric mountain
it won't be an actual `/endpoint`, then it'll be `/endpoint/`
basically you want to redirect to /folder/ instead of /endpoint, right?
latent heron
no, other way around
lyric mountain
then just don't add trailing /
lyric mountain
the issue is that you can't have it that way
lyric mountain
you're not serving content, you're redirecting
latent heron
i'm trying to serve the content
lyric mountain
then don't use Location
latent heron
so, how am i actually supposed to create the endpoint then..?
lyric mountain
you basically trying to breathe and swallow at the same time
boreal iron
Why don’t you use the webserver to redirect the request for main.php to endpoint?
boreal iron
No that won’t work with PHP
lyric mountain
what do you use for the webserver? nginx or apache?
latent heron
apache
latent heron
please point me in the right direction then to establish the endpoint lmao
because im trying to get a PHP file to write content for an endpoint to display
exactly what i'm wanting to do here
lyric mountain
basically, what you need is to have the engine send the client to the right endpoint in the webserver
idk how to do it in apache, but I'll show u an example in nginx
latent heron
yeah i have everything else i need for my API to work coded out and functional
except getting the endpoint to display my content
boreal iron
because im trying to get a PHP file to write content for an endpoint to display
That’s how I build my API, too
But with the exception the request URL is an imaginary folder redirecting to a file
lyric mountain
wait
forgot to remove urls
so
the part I want to show is the highlighted in green
boreal iron
But I actually do a pass through not a redirect which will not change the URL in the browser
latent heron
right, not trying to do that
the endpoint should be inferring on a file to read off of anyhow
using ports would create the same dilemma im having
lyric mountain
basically, that's going to: if url is https://mydomain.tld/reaction, it'll send the request to http://localhost:8079 and append /reaction to it
which is the port my webserver is listening to
it'll receive the request, check for /reaction endpoint and, if it exists, process and return a response
latent heron
i see
boreal iron
the endpoint should be inferring on a file to read off of anyhow
Yes so you gonna need two RewriteRules
One redirecting you from main.php to /endpoint
And the second redirecting /endpoint to /endpoint/file.php
(only needed if it’s not an index.php)
boreal iron
In the virtual host
boreal iron
If I wouldn’t drive I could send you an example
Yeah no problem
First redirect to /endpoint then pass through to index.php
boreal iron
Pass through means index.php won’t be written down in the URL
latent heron
could i just do /endpoint to /endpoint/ then?
since it'll automatically then registering it to index
boreal iron
You can also define an own DirectoryIndex
For example process.php as index
Whatever you won’t just for that folder
Or simply index.php
My endpoint mentioned in my example from before doesn’t show the index.php too it should acts as pass through
latent heron
gotcha
boreal iron
Brb
latent heron
will i need to define the apache http for /api or each specific endpoint though?
earnest phoenix
@lyric mountain Thanks
lyric mountain
will i need to define the apache http for `/api` or each specific endpoint thoug...
depends, normally you only need to define multiple endpoints if you have multiple ports
else u can just use wildcard to match anything
latent heron
well since apache is .htaccess based on defining, i can just put it in each endpoint
and then make it simply redirect to the index.php
which then i'll have no issues at all with displaying the json content once i pass the content type header
and realistically would solve my problem, the downside being I have a bunch of rewrites in separate fucking paths 
lyric mountain
or just use wildcard
also you can append headers from the engine
if all your endpoints will serve the same kind of content
earnest phoenix
Didn't know threads were out as well
slender thistle
@rustic nova scam
opal plank
@rustic nova gives us freedom
slender thistle
Slow yeah
drifting wedge
if im getting user input and sending it to backend should i use request params?
boreal iron
I would put the rewrite rules into the virtual host as the htaccess refers to the directory it is in
Even defining the RewriteBase will not fix that
Which matters only if the files are in different folders (under the same host) to prevent creating multiple htaccess files
digital ibex
Quick question
Is me adding endpoints which updates the data in my db in my api more efficient than directly updating the db?
like bc it would take a bit of time for it to render and stuff if u get what I mean and for frontend frameworks it does make it simpler and faster
so I’m not sure if it like makes it faster overall or just a bit slower it’s taking that bit longer to get to the data if u get what I mean
earnest phoenix
That is essentially what a rest api is
sudden geyser
@digital ibex I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to compare. Do you have an API and deciding whether to make two separate endpoints—one for the public user request and one for the private database update? Or do you have a process and want to separate the database updates to the API?
If you're requesting the former, it really depends on your implementation. For the most part, it's not faster. You may be interested in the structure of your project and where you'll be making API requests as an alternative.
lofty cedar
Anyone knows why it doesn't change the var 'turn' ?
(in place command)
lyric mountain
Is me adding endpoints which updates the data in my db in my api more efficient ...
it's better not to directly manipulate the db anywhere
instead have a centralized manager
sudden geyser
What makes it "better"?
proven lantern
it's better not to directly manipulate the db anywhere
no
lyric mountain
less places to update code, easier to debug, probably more safety since you can focus all security in one spot instead of having it splattered all around
also you can profile performance easier since it'll not be affected by unrelated code
proven lantern
databases already have an api, why build another?
lyric mountain
not that
bronze gulch
Hello World!
sudden geyser
Goodbye, World!
bronze gulch
proven lantern
maybe like a graphql api that connects everything
sudden geyser
Yeah well if you manipulate the database in a GraphQL field you're just shooting yourself in the foot
lofty cedar
Anyone knows why it doesn't change the var 'turn' ?
(in place command)
anyone knows?
proven lantern
but it's still easier to just directly use the database
proven lantern
graphql makes a rest api
GraphQL follows the same set of constraints as REST APIs, but it organizes data into a graph using one interface...
sudden geyser
Yes, but that's just for the single endpoint and if the developer felt like using some REST primitives rather than just sticking to what GraphQL gives you, like query, mutation, subscription vs. GET/POST/whatever
proven lantern
those (query, mutation, subscription) are part of the body of a post request
sudden geyser
Same when I used it once
But I like that it's structured (allows code generation), makes versioning easier, only gives me what I need, etc.
earnest phoenix
I plan on using graphql when I next use nestjs
proven lantern
nextjs?
sudden geyser
Some react framework I think
I'm not so sure about implementing a GraphQL API though.
I had some difficulties
proven lantern
it's not worth it
sudden geyser
Specifically resolving the N+1 problem.
proven lantern
recursion?
sudden geyser
It was because of the structure of fields.
Since there's no fixed order to how a user declares their query unlike REST, you may end up making too many backend requests for resources.
e.g. a books field with a titles field under it holding an array of strings
Which may make 1 SQL query for the book, and 10 SQL queries for each title.
I used Facebook's Dataloader to resolve this
proven lantern
that doesn't sound efficient
sudden geyser
Dataloader solves that issue by basically batching the queries (e.g. for each book you call .load(id)) and makes a single query with an array of the IDs
proven lantern
shouldn;t it be called the 1+n problem
sudden geyser
both work either way
But when I needed to model my queries with more details (e.g. when approaching pagination), it got difficult to model
proven lantern
if order of operations mattered for addition it wouldn't work both ways
sudden geyser
but this ain't division
proven lantern
but the 1 would be the initial call to get data and the + n part would be the part the fetch all the supplemental data
lyric mountain
But a centralized manager is an API
I mean, yes but not in that sense
if you splatter database access everywhere you'll have many code to update let a bug happen
sudden geyser
but the 1 would be the initial call to get data and the + n part would be the pa...
It could be 1+N, but people chose to call it N+1.
lyric mountain
I'm not saying to make a full lib for database transactions, but keep everything centralized
or at least CRUD ops
sudden geyser
if you splatter database access everywhere you'll have many code to update let a...
I can't think of an easy way to model a centralized manager without resulting in an ORM design. SQL databases, for example, are already high-level, declarative abstractions. Though an example may help.
What I've done in my project is store the query in a separate file (which can be reused) and make the database query in the API call.
earnest phoenix
Just use an orm 
sudden geyser
I don't like ORMs.
lyric mountain
still, it'll become unbearable to debug or refactor once your code becomes big enough
earnest phoenix
I use am orm cause it makes my life easier in the long run
sudden geyser
It may actually do the opposite
earnest phoenix
How
I'd rather not risk sql injections where something like typeorm can help prevent that
Also makes it easier to query
Way easier to debug the situation
proven lantern
No nestjs
don't use that framework. they use annotations which were rejected from ecmaacript for good reason
that framework uses an invalid version of javascript
into the trash
earnest phoenix
What
proven lantern
earnest phoenix
Those are called Decorators hun
proven lantern
those are not valid in javascript
sudden geyser
They're using TypeScript.
earnest phoenix
Nestjs is primarily used in typescript
proven lantern
Decorators are a type of annotation
earnest phoenix
You aren't the sharpest tool in the shed are ya
earnest phoenix
That is a decorator, typescript uses decorators, when the code is compiled it looks nothing like that it gets compiled down into valid javascript
So what you are saying is rather useless when you don't know what typescript even is
proven lantern
garbage script
ecmascript chose to reject annotations for a reason
ts people dont like reasons
earnest phoenix
What
sudden geyser
How
I'd rather not risk sql injections where something like typeorm can help prevent that
Also makes it easier to query
Way easier to debug the situation
The issue I have with ORMs is what I was explaining above: SQL is already a high-level, declarative abstraction for communicating with a database. Although its syntax is unmodern, it's still invaluable.
What ORMs often try and do is further abstract SQL to make it convenient and modern to use in programming languages. At the same time, that abstraction often results in loss of capabilities. As a result, ORMs give you an escape hole so you can execute a raw SQL query.
For me, I don't like ORMs because of that. Plus, they make me less productive, so I choose to use SQL. It's always happened that as I get further using an ORM, I grow irritated with its limitations and go back to SQL.
SQL injection is not a problem since you can usually prepare your queries or your language may have it built in (e.g. Postgres $1). I won't disagree that debugging ORMs can be easier, but they can also be difficult since they include a lot of stuff not related to your issue at hand and more about the ORM.
proven lantern
why cant typescript follow the rules?
sudden geyser
Abstraction is a wonderful yet ruthless weapon.
proven lantern
international standards exist for a reason
sudden geyser
I kind of agree with you, but at the same time, TypeScript is a programming language that doesn't need to follow the rules just because the people behind the standard rejected it.
proven lantern
they like their caveman stick
stick good
you can poke thing with stick
make thing ouch
sudden geyser
May I interest you in some ClojureScript
sudden geyser
oh no
proven lantern
brain size doesn't matter
i write ts, js, and java all day and i use js when i need to solve something tricky
some scala too, but it's been awhile
a bit of kotlin
limber mica
Yo anyone know how to get a user ID and send them a DM while using sharding? Im trying to get it from the first ping so message.author.send wont work
im using discord.js
latent heron
annotations are existent in a lot of languages
proven lantern
const member = await msg.guild.members.fetch({user:userId})
const dmChannel = await member.createDM()
there's nothing wrong with TS using them
limber mica
Im so damn confused
how do i do it
client.users.cache.get(member) works fine but only in that one shard
wait
wait wait wait
im so stupid
latent heron
d.js caching horrifies me
earnest phoenix
Why wouldn't message.author.send not work
limber mica
Why wouldn't message.author.send not work
im getting the ID from the first mention
earnest phoenix
On any shard the author of the message should still be the same no?
proven lantern
i use tim's djs library
limber mica
On any shard the author of the message should still be the same no?
Also what if the user who sent the message was not registered on the shard the code was running on
earnest phoenix
Then how would the message be valid without an author
limber mica
So say I have 3 shards, user sends a message on shard 1 but the code runs on shard 2, how on earth is shard 2 going to know who sent the message?
limber mica
Then how would the message be valid without an author
But im not getting the author, im sending the message to who I ping first
latent heron
^
limber mica
fetch them
how?
latent heron
replying on the cache is a bad idea
earnest phoenix
But fetching them from the api directly is a better option since the cache for whatever reason doesn't always get filled
proven lantern
latent heron
because cache is not reliable in the event the user event updates
earnest phoenix
fetch works as if its in the cache it will get it from there
else it wil lfetch directly from the api
latent heron
pretty sure its the latter route you take
latent heron
you should only be using cache imo for things that you are trying to check doesn't change
earnest phoenix
limber mica
how do i send a DM in the dmChannel that is created?
proven lantern
i cache the custom prefixes for bot commands so i dont kill my db
earnest phoenix
When you create the dm channel just use it to send a message
latent heron
that's just a boolean parameter asking if you want to cache it
proven lantern
dmChannel.send("")
limber mica
dmChannel.send("")
that is what i thoughht
earnest phoenix
that's just a boolean parameter asking if you *want* to cache it
I am talking about its description
latent heron
i know, just extending on the definition so Infinity knows
latent heron
that is what i thoughht
did you try it..?
earnest phoenix
Obtains a user from Discord, or the user cache if its already available
proven lantern
put that in try/catch so that it doesn't crash
earnest phoenix
It tries to fetch from the cache first if it doesn't exist it fetches from the api
proven lantern
discordjs thinks it's a good idea to throw an error when it cant fetch a user
latent heron
earnest phoenix
and yes
earnest phoenix
discordjs thinks it's a good idea to throw an error when it cant fetch a user
That is exactly what it should do tf
proven lantern
i'd be happy with no results when there is no member in the guild and having only having an error if it cant reach the api
earnest phoenix
latent heron
then make the exception state there are no results..?
that's why you also have finally
or well, don't know if you can use that with d.js
earnest phoenix
I forget finally is even a thing
latent heron
because my except is supposed to catch what isn't there and fix it for me
finally runs regardless of if try and catch are triggered
earnest phoenix
Ah
latent heron
it's like the "final" state of an operation as the name suggests
earnest phoenix
Gotcha
proven lantern
i dont like having to write code in the catch block that is normal code
limber mica
did you try it..?
its erroring
proven lantern
forces you into two different scopes
latent heron
show us your traceback stack
limber mica
Error: Value for argument "documentPath" is not a valid resource path. Path must be a non-empty string.
is that the whole error traceback?
limber mica
throw new Error(`${validate_1.invalidArgumentMessage(arg, 'resource path')} Path must be a non-empty string.`);
^
Error: Value for argument "documentPath" is not a valid resource path. Path must be a non-empty string.
at Object.validateResourcePath (N:\Desktop\ColdRP bot\node_modules\@google-cloud\firestore\build\src\path.js:414:15)
at CollectionReference.doc (N:\Desktop\ColdRP bot\node_modules\@google-cloud\firestore\build\src\reference.js:1938:20)
at Object.execute (N:\Desktop\ColdRP bot\commands\patremove.js:20:50)
at processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:94:5)
[STATUS] : Bot is online
ah thank you, that's more specific
proven lantern
how are you liking firestore?
limber mica
How can I remove something from a database if it does not exist :)
limber mica
how are you liking firestore?
I like it alot
Its easier and faster
Better than mongo
;)
earnest phoenix
Firestore is bleh
limber mica
6/10
earnest phoenix
Most of googles products are a bit bleh
limber mica
True
earnest phoenix
Right
limber mica
i used it once
latent heron
because mongo was made for lightweight database management
proven lantern
mongo is too expensive
earnest phoenix
Postgres + prisma or typeorm is pog
latent heron
and mongo is also fucking stupid
latent heron
you see
limber mica
API calls are significantly easier to remember
latent heron
i prefer nosql database packages
proven lantern
mongo is if you dont want to think about how to store your data
latent heron
because anything with SQL makes my head retract inside my neck
earnest phoenix
fl0w what db do you use
latent heron
for my projects?
limber mica
wait, yall are forgetting about JSON
earnest phoenix
Yea
latent heron
TinyDB
limber mica
the god of storage
earnest phoenix
TinyDB?
latent heron
its a JSON NoSQL DB library for Python
earnest phoenix
Oh right
earnest phoenix
you are mainly a python user no?
latent heron
i'm mainly a PHP user
proven lantern
dynamodb is a nosql database that tries to be as annoying as rds databases
latent heron
My stack is PHP, Python, JS and C#
proven lantern
but it's free
earnest phoenix
I thought it interesting but a good bit of people convinced me not to learn it
sudden geyser
So like 2 people?
latent heron
if you learn PHP, learn PHP 8
earnest phoenix
My stack is Kotlin, TS, JS, and C#
latent heron
Kotlin's a pretty nice language
sudden geyser
What's a "stack" in this context
latent heron
a set of languages you commonly work with
limber mica
now to apply it 5000 more times
earnest phoenix
I don't work with C# as much anymore
But I work a lot with Kotlin, TS and sometimes JS
The heck happened to top.gg for me
It went unavailable ahaha
latent heron
well anyhow
I'm brushing up on my C# skills right now because I'm trying to apply for a job that involves writing backend for it
👀 hoping I can get my foot in the door with at least a phone call
earnest phoenix
I was going to look for a job for the summer
but I don't know
I hate writing resumes
latent heron
also small flex but
sudden geyser
If you're in school, see if your school has options
sudden geyser
I'm working for the IT department at my school
latent heron
oh cool you're the guy who helped me with some Rust stuff
limber mica
hey fl0w how do i get guild members but NOT from the cache
earnest phoenix
fetch
latent heron
fetch
limber mica
im working on it
earnest phoenix
use partials + fetch
latent heron
always fetch directly for something not from the cache
limber mica
ok
latent heron
don't let the elites tell you otherwise
earnest phoenix
partials + fetch pog
latent heron
fetch is the based way
earnest phoenix
the elites tell you to fetch
At least that is what everyone from the d.js told me to do
latent heron
nah
earnest phoenix
use partials + fetch
latent heron
seen some d.js coders go
earnest phoenix
its the only way
latent heron
LMAO
sudden geyser
Discord.js isn't that bad
earnest phoenix
It is and it isn't
latent heron
I like to view these languages in this order:
JDA - this is an Electric Shaver
discord.py - this is a razor
discord.js - this is a bowling pin
Now I like to try and get the best shave possible when I'm in the bathroom, but I always ask people: have you ever shaved with a bowling pin?
proven lantern
tim's verison isn't that bad
proven lantern
java is pretty bad
earnest phoenix
Agree
latent heron
how?
earnest phoenix
Kotlin is way better
latent heron
Java is still pretty good
earnest phoenix
Java is alright
proven lantern
kotlin is trying, but java is just so bad
latent heron
the only sucky thing is compiling with JVM
earnest phoenix
but kotlin is better
proven lantern
it's a lost cause
latent heron
plenty of companies still deploy it as their backend language
but Rust is slowly replacing Java
sudden geyser
No it's not.
earnest phoenix
You simplistic minded fool
proven lantern
Ben you think everything that isn't js is a lost cause
that was decided in 1995
latent heron
it is
sudden geyser
Rust and Java have separate objectives.
latent heron
there are a lot of companies using Rust now for backend
no Rust is just really fucking good at trying to make things work without errors
because stupid mozilla developers couldn't handle their shit
latent heron
ofc they have separate objectives, they're intentionally designed differently on the fundamental aspect
sudden geyser
Rust is popular and growing (I use it often), but Rust is not the reason Java is losing popularity all of a sudden.
latent heron
it's a good contributor to it though
latent heron
I never said Rust was the only language replacing Java
some JS frameworks are contributing to that as well
limber mica
i hate js right now
sudden geyser
It's really an ecosystem of tools and technologies I'm trying to say
but even with that
sudden geyser
I doubt Java is losing all that much popularity.
earnest phoenix
Oh java will run until the end of time its just that kind of lang
proven lantern
remember when Java tried to replace JavaScript in the browser and failed horribly
latent heron
i don't really think there are any specific technologies, but more so languages leading to Java's downfall
earnest phoenix
I think java will not die out completely for years to come
latent heron
it won't
sudden geyser
It'll take a long time before Java dies out.
latent heron
Java is on the same page with that as PHP is
both languages are going to take a long time to die
proven lantern
they are dead to me
sudden geyser
Plus, with languages like Kotlin and Scala running on the JVM, they're bundled with that Java ecosystem
latent heron
PHP is probably closer to dying right now than Java is
and they're still long shots away from that
lyric mountain
remember when Java tried to replace JavaScript in the browser and failed horribl...
Actually it was the inverse
proven lantern
Plus, with languages like Kotlin and Scala running on the JVM, they're bundled w...
Kotlin and Scala are just to give Java developers a taste of some absolutely needed features.
sudden geyser
And, in return, they enter Java's science experiment and further contribute to the ecosystem
lyric mountain
Javascript came as a client side script to be the middleman between browser and Java
sudden geyser
Though, if you guys really want to measure languages, you should check out Stackoverflow's annual surveys (https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2020#technology-most-loved-dreaded-and-wanted-languages-wanted)
sudden geyser
I could also write AI in C but no one would do that except for Google maybe
lyric mountain
You can write ai in any lang
Python is overrated tbf
All it has is very easy IO operations
limber mica
message.guild.channels.fetch is not a function how do i fix this
lyric mountain
And is very high level
sudden geyser
any language is really the point. Sadly too many people try to dismiss tools and technologies just because of what it's associated with
sudden geyser
message.guild.channels.fetch is not a function how do i fix this
You shouldn't need to fetch a channel.
proven lantern
ai is awesome
proven lantern
just not really programming
limber mica
dont change
lyric mountain
just not really programming
Ai is programming
Even making a web page is programming
lyric mountain
Someone has to find tune the ai
lyric mountain
And someone has to develop it
sudden geyser
It's probably up there because their employers won't move to modern approaches or can't bother
lyric mountain
Perl is too new
proven lantern
Perl likes to use all the symbols on the keyboard and have them all mean different things in different scopes
lyric mountain
That's the issue
lyric mountain
Well, relatively
lyric mountain
I might be mistaking langs then
latent heron
the newest language that came out is TS
proven lantern
microsoft messed up on that one
earnest phoenix
I am kinda wondering what I should be working on rn
sudden geyser
learn clojure
earnest phoenix
No thanks
sudden geyser
sadge
lyric mountain
Learn groovy
earnest phoenix
My brain can't handle learning anything else
I am wondering if I should do something different with my bot.
Moderation is just too common
sudden geyser
how about trying something other than a bot
earnest phoenix
I could yea
but what
I had plans on making a social media platform I could do that again, but doing that alone is just broing
sudden geyser
A CLI? A web server (backend and frontened)?
lyric mountain
What lang u used for your bot?
earnest phoenix
Typescript
latent heron
CLI is just some sysadmin shit
and i cant be assed to bother learning different CLIs
sudden geyser
"learning"?
proven lantern
microsoft made typescript for internet explorer 7
lyric mountain
Hm, what about making a text-to-jsfuck converter?
earnest phoenix
Hm, what about making a text-to-jsfuck converter?
That doesn't sound interesting at all
I wanna do something fun
earnest phoenix
a cli is cool
lyric mountain
![]+[] = "false"
latent heron
no, I criticize people who are making CLIs for very small-scaled development
earnest phoenix
![]+[] = "false"
Doesn't seem worthwhile
latent heron
because it's a weight to me to personally use different CLIs for numerous purposes
earnest phoenix
I wanna do something that will be fun and useful
sudden geyser
It's usually for learning/convenience. Just like writing a bot.
latent heron
grep is widespread in use though
I understand the convenience in making those that are used on a large level
but personally making one for really small stuff bothers me a little
sudden geyser
It really depends on the target user
latent heron
i'd be the perfect candidate of who to not look for when working in an office
sudden geyser
For example, I like anime -> I use AniList (site for tracking anime & manga) -> site has API -> I'm bored -> I'll make a CLI to interact with the site for fun
latent heron
there's a difference between making something for understanding why it works and understanding its fundamentals over doing it purely for small tasks
sudden geyser
there's a difference between making something for understanding why it works and...
As long as the CLI is of use to a target market, it shouldn't matter if it's for completing "small tasks".
orchid sail
does anyone know how to create a website on a .tk domain? or .mu
lyric mountain
You can't really own a tk domain
boreal iron
.tk is just a free TLD nothing else
You can create and host your website somewhere and redirect the .tk domain to it
That’s it
orchid sail
I didn't ask for information if I own or not I just want to know how to create a website
lyric mountain
.tk is just a free TLD nothing else
You can create and host your website somewhe...
Won't work for most dynamic webs, not for tk
boreal iron
I didn't ask for information if I own or not I just want to know how to create a...
Best source is to google how to create a website
lyric mountain
You can't set a dns for freenom domains, only mask urls, which they achieve by embedding the whole website in an iframe
Which effectively breaks most sites with external connections since they blacklist freenom
waxen fog
yo so im trying to do an iframe as my bots long description on top.gg
some of its getting cut off as seen in the picture above is there anything that i can do?
im doing
<iframe height="1250px" width="100%" src="URL">
</iframe>```
boreal iron
You can't set a dns for freenom domains, only mask urls, which they achieve by e...
Hosting somewhere doesn’t automatically result in a dynamic IP
There are tons of free web space hosters
Combined with the free TLD …
lyric mountain
How does the Ip Logeter works?
They work by not making one since that's against discord tos
lyric mountain
Hosting somewhere doesn’t automatically result in a dynamic IP
There are tons of...
I don't mean that
Like, idk how to explain
lyric mountain
Oh
lyric mountain
But really, freenom is very shitty
orchid sail
I just came to know how to make that type <body> test </body> appear on the site.
lyric mountain
Hmmm, you mean the base html structure
orchid sail
Wtf
boreal iron
I just came to know how to make that type <body> test </body> appear on the site...
If you just came here to get to know that you should think about actually ask exactly what ur looking for
lyric mountain
<html>
<head>
preload stuff
</head>
<body>
visible stuff
</body>
</html>
lyric mountain
Well, he said he just learnt how to show a text on body
boreal iron
Yeah
gaunt ermine
Hey is there a way to get the top voted users in an html leaderboard
earnest phoenix
<rejected> Error [VOICE_JOIN_CHANNEL]: You do not have permission to join this voice channel.
at /src/user/app/node_modules/discord.js/src/client/voice/ClientVoiceManager.js:78:15
at new Promise (<anonymous>)
at ClientVoiceManager.joinChannel (/src/user/app/node_modules/discord.js/src/client/voice/ClientVoiceManager.js:76:12)
at VoiceChannel.join (/src/user/app/node_modules/discord.js/src/structures/VoiceChannel.js:134:30)
at Object.run (/src/user/app/commands/connect.js:23:17)
at module.exports (/src/user/app/events/message.js:36:13)
at Client.emit (events.js:375:28)
at MessageCreateAction.handle (/src/user/app/node_modules/discord.js/src/client/actions/MessageCreate.js:31:14)
at Object.module.exports [as MESSAGE_CREATE] (/src/user/app/node_modules/discord.js/src/client/websocket/handlers/MESSAGE_CREATE.js:4:32)
at WebSocketManager.handlePacket (/src/user/app/node_modules/discord.js/src/client/websocket/WebSocketManager.js:384:31) {
[Symbol(code)]: 'VOICE_JOIN_CHANNEL'
}```how setup probleam of this error
cn any one pls help
earnest phoenix
```Unhandled Rejection at: Promise {
<rejected> Error [VOICE_JOIN_CHANNEL]: Y...
how make message that bot send message in discord server when this happen
pls any one help
plain talon
Catch the error using a try catch statement
earnest phoenix
Catch the error using a try catch statement
i mean
how make a message
when user cnt give
permission
oblique minnow
Hii
plain talon
Yes, catch the error and send a message
earnest phoenix
so bot reply
earnest phoenix
Yes, catch the error and send a message
yup
ok wait
i send one thing
it is work
i make it now
is it work
i just make i t
is it right
plain talon
Only way to find out is to try it
earnest phoenix
Only way to find out is to try it
no
error comes
can you come in dms @plain talon pls
long crow
earnest phoenix
<https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Guide/Using_promises>
at Object.run (/home/container/commands/connect.js:18:5)
at module.exports (/home/container/events/message.js:29:13)
at Client.emit (events.js:376:20)
at MessageCreateAction.handle (/home/container/node_modules/discord.js/src/client/actions/MessageCreate.js:31:14)
at Object.module.exports [as MESSAGE_CREATE] (/home/container/node_modules/discord.js/src/client/websocket/handlers/MESSAGE_CREATE.js:4:32)
at WebSocketManager.handlePacket (/home/container/node_modules/discord.js/src/client/websocket/WebSocketManager.js:384:31)
at WebSocketShard.onPacket (/home/container/node_modules/discord.js/src/client/websocket/WebSocketShard.js:444:22)
at WebSocketShard.onMessage (/home/container/node_modules/discord.js/src/client/websocket/WebSocketShard.js:301:10)
at WebSocket.onMessage (/home/container/node_modules/discord.js/node_modules/ws/lib/event-target.js:132:16)
at WebSocket.emit (events.js:376:20)
(Use `node --trace-warnings ...` to show where the warning was created)
(node:58) UnhandledPromiseRejectionWarning: Unhandled promise rejection. This error originated either by throwing inside of an async function without a catch block, or by rejecting a promise which was not handled with .catch(). To terminate the node process on unhandled promise rejection, use the CLI flag `--unhandled-rejections=strict` (see https://nodejs.org/api/cli.html#cli_unhandled_rejections_mode). (rejection id: 1)
(node:58) [DEP0018] DeprecationWarning: Unhandled promise rejections are deprecated. In the future, promise rejections that are not handled will terminate the Node.js process with a non-zero exit code.
@plain talon what happen here
plain talon
Read your errors and they may tell you
long crow
(/home/container/commands/connect.js:18:5) Go look at this line
plain talon
I don’t develop in discord js so I can’t help you other than basic language common sense
long crow
Somewhere on that line you're not defining error
earnest phoenix
Somewhere on that line you're not defining `error`
you know djs
long crow
tbh, it not really djs error, it is basic js error
long crow
Thing is I'm not confident enough to look at others code. I look at my own, I understand. If you can't event understand your own, I cannot help you
earnest phoenix
Thing is I'm not confident enough to look at others code. I look at my own, I un...
just comes in dms
dude
accept request
long crow
NO
BIG NO
earnest phoenix
i need show some thing
errant flax
long crow
I disabled dm on any server I join mostly, wih all the ads and scams and well...
earnest phoenix
I disabled dms on all servers
Then friend requested some mods
Bryh
I want to evaporate from my bed after reading that
lucid prawn
???
gaunt ermine
Hey is there a way to get the top voted users in an html leaderboard
Anyone
earnest phoenix
Why is the role name some random shit
lucid prawn
earnest phoenix
Try adding role id
earnest phoenix
Hey is there a way to get the top voted users in an html leaderboard
Try having an iframe on your page that points to a page on your server and your server will send the raw html
gaunt ermine
Try having an iframe on your page that points to a page on your server and your ...
Wdym
lucid prawn
Try adding role id
how can I grab the id on every server like 134 guilds use it
earnest phoenix
Oh
gaunt ermine
I am actually finding this on yt and google but could not find anything
earnest phoenix
@gaunt ermine is the leaderboard on the bot description?
gaunt ermine
No
earnest phoenix
or are you using it somewhere else
oh
This method might work on the bot page too:
gaunt ermine
Ok...
lucid prawn
can someone help me?
earnest phoenix
Boot description
<iframe src="myserver.pog/leaderboard"></iframe>
Server
when you get a request
fetch the leaderboard data
and send it over in an html format
i really didnt understand what your question was
you said why it's adding a role to you when you run member.roles.add
gaunt ermine
```
Boot description
<iframe src="myserver.pog/leaderboard"></iframe>
Server
wh...
Still did not understand
tight trail
lucid prawn
i really didnt understand what your question was
I'm trying to give a member the mute role I did milmute @/user test it gave it to me
earnest phoenix
Time for a quick lesson on SSR or Server Side Rendering
Basically your server designs and sends the raw html instead of reading from an html file
It is safer if you need to do database calls or stuff
gaunt ermine
Still did not understand
@earnest phoenix
earnest phoenix
In your leaderboard you need to setup an http server that sends the leaderboard data
earnest phoenix
Start the server:
const express = require("express");
const app = express();
Exactly
gaunt ermine
So but how do i get votes and set them in a leaderboard
earnest phoenix
All that stuff happens on the server
gaunt ermine
How
earnest phoenix
ummm
gaunt ermine
```
Start the server:
const express = require("express");
const app = express();...
Can u show like this
lucid prawn
so are you trying to put it on a bot?
earnest phoenix
anyways after you figure it out you should listen to a route ("/some/stuff/after/.com") and respond with the html