ok
#development
lyric mountain
hm
unreal estuary
ok
lyric mountain
try putting inside a div
unreal estuary
the footer? ok
lyric mountain
no, everything
nvm
forget that, am forgetting body is treated as a div too
hm
set the footer's bg color to be red
remove the body red color
earnest phoenix
does anybody know how to make for loops faster in python
quartz kindle
why are they slow?
earnest phoenix
because im pulling and adding to my database
quartz kindle
then the problem is not the loop its what you're doing inside the loop
earnest phoenix
for a in range(amt):
cash(ctx.author.id, "wallet", item_info["sell_value"])
info = await database.find_one({"id":ctx.author.id})
ritem(ctx.author.id, item, info["inv"])
im adding cash, getting whats in the database again, then removing an item
tired panther
how important is a tos for bots?
earnest phoenix
but in remove item its another loop
def ritem(id, ite, inv):
c = -1
for a in inv:
if a == ite:
c += 1
database.update_one({"id": id}, {"$pull": {"inv": ite}})
for a in range(c):
database.update_one({"id": id}, {"$push": {"inv": ite}})
is there a better way to pull items?
earnest phoenix
yeah
quartz kindle
if you need to make multiple database operations, always try to make as many as possible in a single query
earnest phoenix
ive searched the entire mongo docs but i cant find any better way to pull 1 item at once
because the inventory array is like ['item', 'item', 'item', 'item', 'item', 'item', 'item', 'item', 'item', 'item', 'item', 'item', 'item', 'item', 'item', 'item', 'item', 'item', 'item', 'item2', 'item2', 'item2', 'item2', 'item2', 'item2', 'item2', 'item2', 'item2', 'item2', 'item2', 'item2', ]
earnest phoenix
wanna know why it didnt work
did you use !important or padding=0?
unreal estuary
no
its even worse
the footer was a div with the id "footer"
in the css i just put footer not #footer
earnest phoenix
in the css i just put footer not #footer
use this
body, html{
margin:0;
padding:0;
}
i fixed it already but thanks
earnest phoenix
i fixed it already but thanks
okay nP
I need help with mongo db
so if the entire array was ['item1', 'item1', 'item1', 'item1']
i want it to become ['item1', 'item1', 'item1']
but "$pull":{"array":"item1"} makes it []
quartz kindle
are those items exactly equal to each other?
earnest phoenix
yeah
quartz kindle
then why not use an object with a count?
then you can just increment/decrement the count
earnest phoenix
using an array is easier
ember wedge
can't you just slice the end off?
earnest phoenix
because theres 20+ items
ember wedge
or reduce the array
earnest phoenix
and adding that to the db would fill it up like crazy
earnest phoenix
or reduce the array
idk how to do it properly
ember wedge
quartz kindle
using an object would be much easier and would not fill it like crazy
ember wedge
isn't the whole point of mongo that you use objects?
quartz kindle
instead of [item1,item1,item1,item1,item2,item2,item2,item2,item2] you have [{item:item1,count:4},{item:item2,count:5}]
which one is easier?
ember wedge
more importantly which is smaller
quartz kindle
or even better {item1:{count:4},item2:{count:5}}
ember wedge
you could even have the items array inside the object and count it after
but it would be better to not do that
quartz kindle
or even {item1:4,item2:5}
earnest phoenix
nvm
ember wedge
indeed
earnest phoenix
all i would do is
list = info['array']
list.remove(item)
await database.update_one({"id":id}, {"$set":{"array":list}})
thats a way ig
cinder patio
Listen to Tim
Using arrays will take a ton of space later on, plus deletion is slow
just have a counter
for each item
and increment/decrement it when needed be
and if you still want to use arrays, use pop to remove the last element
lyric mountain
or even {item1:4,item2:5}
or even {i1:4,i2:5}
quartz kindle
well yeah but hes probably using "item1" as the full name/id of the item
unless he has a map/dict for it
cinder patio
those are placeholders most likely
lyric mountain
ik, just joking on how you went compressing the json like 7zip when seein a text file
cinder patio
If you want to go even further
exotic lotus
Any pending questions related to discord.js? 
Im bored so came here to timepass
quartz kindle
sure
cinder patio
in a buffer
quartz kindle
if you're sure no number or id will ever exceed 16 bit
queen timber
hey guys
cinder patio
nice
quartz kindle
some datatypes have overhead tho
strings have a 16bit unit reserved for its length
same for bigints and buffers
cinder patio
makes sense, my custom bytecode interpreter works exactly the same
16bit for array length too
only 8bit for args though
unsigned ofc
cinder patio
my interpreter turns objects into arrays
honestly a serializer can pull that off too ^
cinder patio
No need I know how to make it better 😉
placid meadow
@cinder patio mine was made to do 2d charts from equations
cinder patio
Mine's a programming language
placid meadow
earnest phoenix
What if I only know some properties of an object and i dont know the rest of the object shape. What type would i use for a parameter like that in typescript?
cinder patio
Everything was going well until I started writing the parser / compiler
then I gave up
I didn't like the architecture the project so I'm starting over
placid meadow
well you know where to find me 😉
earnest phoenix
my computer is having such a stroke
quartz kindle
honestly a serializer can pull that off too ^
ye its basically what i do too
cinder patio
What if I only know some properties of an object and i dont know the rest of the...
interface Obj {
[key: string]: unknown,
key: ...
}
object keys are a sequence of strings identified by an index
then object values have a data type and the index identifier in their overhead
earnest phoenix
owo what's unknown
quartz kindle
unknown is unknown
placid meadow
unknown data type ? 😛
earnest phoenix
can i do that
earnest phoenix
because deno lint is yelling at me for any
cinder patio
yeah use unknown
earnest phoenix
thx
also ive been solving 37 problems with my lib today from deno linter even though i saw them way before
dont ask why i didnt fix
ember wedge
anyone ever generated clients from .xsd files?
cinder patio
then object values have a data type and the index identifier in their overhead
I was thinking more like, get rid of the object keys and let the receiver define them based on the order, so for example:
{a: 1, b: 2, c: 3} turns to 0x0 0x3 0x1 0x2 0x3 and let's say the receiver is using a lib to make it easier, they would deserialize it like so: data.deserialize("a", "b", "c") for exmaple
earnest phoenix
should i use erlpack instead of json for the websocket
cinder patio
but that requires both sides knowing the object structure
cinder patio
should i use erlpack instead of json for the websocket
you should at least make it optional
cinder patio
copy from d.js lol
cinder patio
I'm a wizard
earnest phoenix
thanks ts
TS2571 [ERROR]: Object is of type 'unknown'.
`https://discord.com/api/v8/interactions/${d.id}/${d.token}/callback`;
^
at file:///home/aatif/Desktop/programming/SlashDeno/test.ts:36:56
fervent goblet
How long can a message go until it can't be edited?
austere zealot
@client.command()
async def disable(ctx):
async with asqlite3.connect(db_path) as db:
async with db.cursor() as cursor:
await cursor.execute("SELECT enabled FROM welcome WHERE guild_id = ?", (ctx.guild.id, ))
result = await cursor.fetchone()
command = client.get_command("welcome")
print (result)
if result == ('1',):
await cursor.execute("UPDATE welcome SET enabled = False WHERE ?", (ctx.guild.id, ))
await db.commit()
command.update(enabled=False)
await ctx.reply("Welcome Message disabled!")
elif result == ('0',):
await ctx.reply("The welcome Message is already disabled")
else:
await cursor.execute("INSERT INTO welcome(enabled, guild_id) VALUES(?,?)", (False, ctx.guild.id))
await db.commit()
await ctx.reply("Welcome Message disabled!")
how do i make this command per server?
earnest phoenix
How long can a message go until it can't be edited?
forever
earnest phoenix
forever in the sense until the heat death of the entire fucking universe
quartz kindle
I was thinking more like, get rid of the object keys and let the receiver define...
im making the object structure shareable similarly to how zlib streaming works
earnest phoenix
I give up
ember wedge
```py
@client.command()
async def disable(ctx):
async with asqlite3.connect(...
just query the db if that command is true for that guild_id and retrurn if it isn't
earnest phoenix
time to make another interface
cinder patio
I don't know how zlib streaming works
austere zealot
just query the db if that command is true for that guild_id and retrurn if it is...
isnt it coded like that tho
cinder patio
interface Obj {
[key: string]: unknown,
token: string
}
the lookup table is sent in the payload so that both compressor and decompressor know the structure
ember wedge
isnt it coded like that tho
isn't it just disabling it in the db atm?
earnest phoenix
time to make another interface
._ _
ember wedge
oh here await cursor.execute("SELECT enabled FROM welcome WHERE guild_id = ?", (ctx.guild.id, ))
just repeat that in ur welcome command
austere zealot
ok
ember wedge
and if it's 0 return the function
austere zealot
oh here await cursor.execute("SELECT enabled FROM welcome WHERE guild_id = ?",...
nope didnt work
ember wedge
and it's disabled in the db?
austere zealot
no its enabled
ember wedge
what is the result this gives?
await cursor.execute("SELECT enabled FROM welcome WHERE guild_id = ?", (ctx.guild.id, ))
result = await cursor.fetchone()
austere zealot
('1',)
ember wedge
doesn't that mean the command is enabled?
austere zealot
it does
ember wedge
so then it should run the command
if it's not that just return;
and the command won't run any further?
austere zealot
lmao now its not working
queen timber
you messed it up
earnest phoenix
do i need to learn how to use default exports
import { Snowflake } from "../typedefs/Snowflake.ts";
import { Token } from "../typedefs/Token.ts";
import { Member } from "./Member.ts";
import { User } from "./User.ts";
yes i would if i was you
earnest phoenix
well i sometimes have multiple related interfaces and types in the same file so ill need to remember to use default export in one file and {} in the other
and i have a heckload of typedefs to write so
queen timber
ok
earnest phoenix
all of these plus moar
austere zealot
can you use enabled=True for per server commands?
austere zealot
you messed it up
yea lmao
austere zealot
i already fixed it lul
earnest phoenix
do not use long variable nam-
discord:
queen timber
i already fixed it lul
nice
queen timber
do not use long variable nam-
discord:
why
queen timber
ok i did not use long variables
earnest phoenix
@queen timber i found an even longer name
ApplicationCommandInteractionDataResolved
queen timber
lol
queen timber
hey
hallow raptor
What's ur bot can do
queen timber
it can level up members in your server
earnest phoenix
this channel is not for chatting about bots
queen timber
i will dm you
earnest phoenix
nor is it for begging people to join your server
hallow raptor
nor is it for begging people to join your server
K sorry
queen timber
he asks like he is mod
queen timber
lol
snow urchin
how could I use regexp to replace only ;, () and []
so far I have ([^a-zA-Z0-9 ])+, but that stops when it reaches a letter
I want for example lala (olol);[] to change to lala olol
earnest phoenix
how could I use regexp to replace only `;`, `()` and `[]`
umm
/[\;\(\)\[\]]/
?
snow urchin
that stops once it hits a letter
earnest phoenix
huh
snow urchin
earnest phoenix
bro
you should use g flag instead of +
add the flag after the closing / like so: /g
pale vessel
so far I have `([^a-zA-Z0-9 ])+`, but that stops when it reaches a letter
I want...
this already works, you just need to use the global modifier
boreal mantle
Hello,
I currently can't start my bot (no ready event emitted), is there someone with the same problem ?
lament rock
shouldn't the + also go in the capture group since it would capture 1 letter only and there would be a ton of capture groups if the global flag is enabled
earnest phoenix
How I can do a img to svg? 
pale vessel
why?
lament rock
I don't think there is a clean way to convert an image to svg since svgs consist of geometric objects. Your image would lose a considerable amount of quality if it's detailed
umbral zealot
There's some tools from Adobe that can do that though
lyric mountain
also inkscape
zenith terrace
anyone know why VSC is showing this, it was working fine yesterday but now it doesn't wanna work
ember wedge
looks like nodejs isn't installed
or it's not configured in your path
try typing node -v in a terminal
zenith terrace
see you didnt read what I said, it was working fine yesterday but today it isnt, which indicates nodejs is installed but today I cannot use node
cerulean wharf
Hello! do you guys have a tutorial on how do i make people react with an emoji and then a role is assigned? a role like age, sex, etc.
it's something i can make with a bot?
ember wedge
see you didnt read what I said, it was working fine yesterday but today it isnt,...
for all i know it was removed
ember wedge
Hello! do you guys have a tutorial on how do i make people react with an emoji a...
You can make this with a bot
earnest phoenix
see you didnt read what I said, it was working fine yesterday but today it isnt,...
Try uninstalling and reinstalling it idk
lost wadi
Hello, can you help me?
How do I get the last image sent on the channel?
cerulean wharf
You can make this with a bot
Yay! is there a bot you recommend me?
ember wedge
I think carlbot does it?
ember wedge
same
cerulean wharf
that's fancy, one day i'll make it to dev bots. Thank you guys
opal plank
well fuck
this is not what you wanna see in logs
@quartz kindle do you perhaps know a way to check if the thread is getting clogged or something that might be causing misses in acks?
dunno if theres a profiler for that
best i can think of is try to run a while() loop for a couple dozen minutes and check if theres latency
quartz kindle
looks like normal reconnects?
quartz kindle
every shard will reconnect at least once every 4 hours
opal plank
nono
let me give you a bigger scope
@quartz kindle
these are just READY events
shards going brrr
quartz kindle
idk then could be discord having issues
opal plank
are you having that?
craggy pine
I don't think our bot is having a stroke atm with that. 
opal plank
quartz kindle
let me check
crimson vapor
is this logs or a csv?
opal plank
i assume i probably left some very amazingly good code there that might be clogging it enough to miss some acks
opal plank
is this logs or a csv?
its my terminal
opal plank
oh, thats postgres
opal plank
im really not sure they should be reconnecting that often
thats once every 30m on urs tim
this is 30 every 30 minutes
quartz kindle
well idk
crimson vapor
yikes your bot ok?
opal plank
clearly not
opal plank
recieved a couple reports yesterday about it being offline on some guilds
did a bit of digging and found that out
having logs does make everything easy to monitor
i really dont think its a connection issue
im willing to bet its my pristine code
lament rock
Might not be heartbeating correctly
quartz kindle
does detritus log heartbeats?
opal plank
i think it might
quartz kindle
someone else was having an issue like that today
opal plank
it re-emits all events
quartz kindle
not receiving heartbeat acks
opal plank
i think theres a ack event emitter
let me check rq
that would be under shard i assume
crimson vapor
erwin what format do you use for your date for the logs?
lament rock
If you fail to receive an ack, then you may not be sending one in the first place since Discord's ws will still send an ack in a service outage.
Although, there is the rare case ws connections become zombified and acks won't appear even if sending heartbeats. In which case, the socket should be closed and reconnected immediately
for it to appear this many times seems very sus
I had this issue before and it was a pain
Turns out, was a logical error on my end with my gateway lib
opal plank
cake did patch something i found accidently yesterday
and i just updated it to the beta branch with the patch
but he's not having any issues on his bot either
99.99999999% sure its something on my code
lament rock
could also be sending an invalid payload tbh. I think that also immediately closes your socket connection
crimson vapor
detritus moment
quartz kindle
how are these values separated?
crimson vapor
How do i get the highest value (an integer) in a text file?
how is the file formatted
lament rock
read the file and encode it to UTF-8, then split the string contents using a regex with the global and multi-line flags which captures \d+ then sort that Array normally and return the first result
Might have to map the string Array and call the NumberConstructor on each entry though
eternal osprey
how are these values separated?
just normal divided with \n and a snowflake before it
like this
so i already have parted the file so it only takes the 2nd part of the lines (the values)
just need to get the highest integer
lament rock
my way wouldn't work out too well then, I suppose since it would capture IDs
quartz kindle
read file -> split by new line -> sort by second word converted to number
opal plank
aight i got it to log
its likely gonna spam the living shit out of my console
but fuck it
craggy pine
console go brr
eternal osprey
read file -> split by new line -> sort by second word converted to number
I already parted the file so it only takes the 2nd part of the lines
so it only gets the values. That is already done
quartz kindle
so you dont need the id that belongs to that value?
opal plank
though i havent seen anything get logged yet
eternal osprey
so you dont need the id that belongs to that value?
i need that for something else, but forget about that
pale vessel
Probably array.map(Number).sort()?
eternal osprey
i can access the 2nd values of each line using m[1]
quartz kindle
every 40 seconds or so
opal plank
hmmm something is off then
crimson vapor
is it only some shards or all shards?
opal plank
all of them reconnect at some point, but its been specifically shard 1 being borked
crimson vapor
I mean I get my bot on 1 shard reconnecting every once in a while
so thats normal
ig
but not all the time
which is your issue
eternal osprey
Okay wait i am actually a bit confused right now
crimson vapor
do you not log disconnects?
opal plank
in my terminal i just log when shards are ready
crimson vapor
ah
opal plank
its my terminal, yes
crimson vapor
ok makes sense
eternal osprey
this is what the text file contains of. How can i get the max value of the second part only (so the values, not the snowflakes)?
eternal osprey
yeah it is
quartz kindle
that way you can use sort
quartz kindle
array.sort((a,b) => Number(a[1]) - Number(b[1]))
you can also use reduce yes
if you only want one value
crimson vapor
the max would only be ne tho
eternal osprey
const array1 = [1, 30, 4, 21, 100000];
array1.sort();
console.log(array1);
// expected output: Array [1, 100000, 21, 30, 4]
``` I don't quite get why the sort is returning these values in this specific order.sort weith a > function
crimson vapor
is sorted by char code?
opal plank
sort(a,b => b > a)
crimson vapor
sort((a, b) => b > a)
quartz kindle
the sort function expects a number return no?
crimson vapor
hmm
umbral zealot
yes it does
umbral zealot
arr.sort( (a, b) => b - a) works
crimson vapor
using npm, what would make a package have its own node_modules folder
im having an issue where the imports are different and therefore typescript is erroring
opal plank
wot?
crimson vapor
src/bot/worker.ts:17:109 - error TS2345: Argument of type 'import("/home/million/discord/terano-rose/node_modules/discord-rose/node_modules/discord-api-types/v8/payloads/user").APIUser' is not assignable to parameter of type 'import("/home/million/discord/terano-rose/node_modules/discord-api-types/payloads/v8/user").APIUser'.```the issue from what I can see is that the latest version isnt installed there, causing an inconsistency with the types
quartz kindle
a package has its own node_modules folder when it has dependencies
umbral zealot
lololol typescript 😛
crimson vapor
lololol typescript 😛
@opal plank
crimson vapor
is there a reason why some required packages would be in the main node_modules while others are in another package's node_modules?
vivid fulcrum
dev dependencies ig
crimson vapor
its put in as a regular dependency tho
opal plank
you're a regular dependency
quartz kindle
probably if the same dependency is not used anywhere it will be in the base folder
if the same dependency is used more than once, then it will be inside their modules if the versions are different
vivid fulcrum
and this is why yarn is superior
quartz kindle
yarn v2 can go fuk itself
quartz kindle
looks great on paper but breaks literally everything
i lost intellisense
and could not even build native modules anymore
crimson vapor
you're a regular dependency
😉
quartz kindle
nah hes an irregular dependency
pine quarry
(node:2243) UnhandledPromiseRejectionWarning: Error [TOKEN_INVALID]: An invalid token was provided.
?
umbral zealot
Your bot token was invalid.
umbral zealot
... ok well clearly you deleted something you shouldn't have, and your token is not loading, then
crimson vapor
you know what has docs? discord-rose
pine quarry
I renewed my token but the error continues
opal plank
also last time i check that barely passed as "docs"
just letting you know @crimson vapor
it was legit 3 pages
crimson vapor
pine quarry
@umbral zealot
umbral zealot
I renewed my token but the error continues
show your code
pine quarry
okey
opal plank
WEW
umbral zealot
your index.js specifically
crimson vapor
bro
opal plank
you really taking that as docs?
crimson vapor
they work
pine quarry
crimson vapor
lol
opal plank
i mean ACTUALLY WRITTEN docs you dork
opal plank
d.js does
crimson vapor
its all done with jsdoc
opal plank
crimson vapor
tho
quartz kindle
hey i write docs
opal plank
"docs"
crimson vapor
Tim you're amazing tho
opal plank
more like bibbles
quartz kindle
yes
pine quarry
what should I do
opal plank
those types are insanely big
quartz kindle
its not the ts
opal plank
imagine not using ts to generate it for you
quartz kindle
its the doc
crimson vapor
yea
opal plank
crimson vapor
so just use ts
umbral zealot
what should I do
show your whole index.js.
quartz kindle
its the jsdoc thats big
i'd have to write it regardless
even if i used ts
i do have some stupidly large types, but 80% of the bulk is jsdoc
ts cant generate those for me
pine quarry
show your whole index.js.
all?
opal plank
ts is super good but its not omnipotent yet*
umbral zealot
yes. all. the whole thing.
pine quarry
too long
umbral zealot
no it's not.
pine quarry
just made a problem today 30 minutes ago
crimson vapor
I am the problem
umbral zealot
just made a problem today 30 minutes ago
Would you like for our help, or would you like to keep debating about it?
quartz kindle
ts is super good but its not omnipotent yet*
yes it cant read minds
crimson vapor
lol
umbral zealot
If you knew where the error was you wouldn't need to ask us about it now would you? 😉
pine quarry
Would you like for our help, or would you like to keep debating about it?
all index.js
?
umbral zealot
For the 3rd time YES
pine quarry
okey 1 min i send the document
umbral zealot
christ it's not even that hard to just CTRL+A CTRL+C then just CTRL+V here. smh
opal plank
was hoping for token, disspointed
umbral zealot
client.login(process.env.token); <---- so this is your login, right? In your file called exactly .env do you have a line that says ```
process=YOURTOKENHERE
???or does it say PROCESS= maybe?
umbral zealot
trick question, it shouldn't say process
are you actually reading my questions correctly?
What does the .env file say? Show it, except for your actual token
opal plank
so
umbral zealot
is that heroku
umbral zealot
doesn't matter, they're partial so it's fine
pine quarry
what should I do
umbral zealot
is that heroku
pine quarry
no
umbral zealot
well either that's not saved, or the system isn't injecting the env values correctly, because this should all work
pine quarry
It started causing problems just 30 minutes ago
When I delete modules, it still gives an error
umbral zealot
are you sure you're copying the BOT TOKEN and not, like, the client secret?
pine quarry
yes
umbral zealot
¯_(ツ)_/¯
opal plank
have you tried a small bot?
umbral zealot
try reducing the code to just a core, basic example bot code and going from there
afaict all is correct, so...
maybe talk to your hosting support
vivid fulcrum
make a request manually with the token
if it doesn't work, then your token is incorrect
earnest phoenix
hello, How do you remove a user’s access to a folder on debian 10?
earnest phoenix
For those who cannot open the file
opal plank
const client = new (require('discord.js').Client)();
client.on('ready', => console.log('ready'));
client.on('debug',console.log);
client.login(process.env.token);
or try that ^^
pine quarry
FetchError: request to https://top.gg/api//bots/stats failed, reason: Client network socket disconnected before secure TLS connection was established
why
:(((((
sage bobcat
One message removed from a suspended account.
One message removed from a suspended account.
vivid fulcrum
yup
sage bobcat
One message removed from a suspended account.
vivid fulcrum
i requested it
sage bobcat
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vivid fulcrum
since i lost access to it
sage bobcat
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opal plank
so they can delete the account knowing you're the owner, but cannot restore your access
sage bobcat
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opal plank
you know what?
fuck it
im dumpign everything in console
EVERYTHING
tired of this hide and seek shit with bugs
green kestrel
if (command == ".voicetest") {
dpp::snowflake channel_id;
ss >> channel_id;
bot.log(dpp::ll_info, fmt::format("Starting voice test! Channel: {} Guild: {}", channel_id, event.msg->guild_id));
if (channel_id) {
dpp::DiscordClient* dc = bot.get_shard(0);
dc->ConnectVoice(event.msg->guild_id, channel_id);
}
}
if (command == ".noise") {
/* This assumes that there is one shard and the voice channel's guild is is on it.
* Only for testing purposes, DO NOT make this assumption in the real world!
*/
dpp::DiscordClient* dc = bot.get_shard(0);
dpp::voiceconn* v = dc->GetVoice(event.msg->guild_id);
if (v && v->voiceclient && v->voiceclient->IsReady()) {
v->voiceclient->SendAudio((uint16_t*)noise, noise_size);
}
silly question... how understandable is this to non c++ devs? just wondering how easy it's going to be to convert people over :laughing:
vivid fulcrum
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i was making hotdogs :p anyway, generally not really
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vivid fulcrum
oh
sage bobcat
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vivid fulcrum
you'll have to hardcode them, otherwise how would you check for them
sage bobcat
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umbral zealot
```cpp
if (command == ".voicetest") {
dpp::snowflake channel_id;
ss >> c...
that's like 90% understandable to JS devs.
sage bobcat
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umbral zealot
in fact it looks like normal JS except all the random extra pointless syntax
What is this, haskell?
sage bobcat
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umbral zealot
What's with languages having syntax that looks like the authors rolled their face on the keyboard when they wrote their parser?
sage bobcat
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umbral zealot
:: >> -> * ?
sage bobcat
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umbral zealot
not really
but dpp::voiceconn* v = dc->GetVoice(event.msg->guild_id); just looks like js with extra shit syntax to it tbh
green kestrel
What's with languages having syntax that looks like the authors rolled their fac...
hey, js isn't much better
umbral zealot
I know I'm speaking from the position of a JS dev that's never done real programming, but still
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dusky sundial
cpp looks scary until you learn it
quartz kindle
well php also uses -> for class properties and methods
green kestrel
the older languages have cleaner syntax because they're simpler, look at basic, COBOL, Fortran
dusky sundial
- is used for pointers
umbral zealot
yeah and I hate php too lol
quartz kindle
xD
cinder patio
What does `dpp:voicecon * v` do
Pointer of that type
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umbral zealot
like this is, what, const voicecon = msg.guild.voiceConnection; ?
green kestrel
What does `dpp:voicecon * v` do
pointer to a voiceconn object... kinda like a reference on crack
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quartz kindle
pointers... references on crack
that was a good one
umbral zealot
const voicecon = msg.guild.voiceConnection;
dpp::voiceconn* v = dc->GetVoice(event.msg->guild_id);
like I said, from my point of view, it looks like programming with a lot of extra random syntax characters
green kestrel
that code gets the current voice client for a guild and sends audio to it
umbral zealot
hold SHIFT, hit a bunch of numbered keys, there's your syntax. But this isn't a CPP thing, haskell is even worse in that regards
and I think Rust too but I'm not sure.
quartz kindle
well they're all low level langs
cinder patio
:: is getting a type from a namespace, -> is to access properties through pointers
green kestrel
so yes it's exactly like the js above it
umbral zealot
haskell be like ```hs
eventHandler :: Event -> DiscordHandler ()
eventHandler event = case event of
MessageCreate m -> when (not (fromBot m) && isPing (messageText m)) $ do
_ <- restCall (R.CreateReaction (messageChannel m, messageId m) "eyes")
threadDelay (4 * 10^6)
_ <- restCall (R.CreateMessage (messageChannel m) "Pong!")
pure ()
_ -> pure ()
what does <- do
umbral zealot
I have absolutely no idea
green kestrel
that doesn't look so ugly to me
quartz kindle
lmao
umbral zealot
why is there _ <- and _ -> ?
cinder patio
That's why I dislike purely functional langa
opal plank
js is fun cuz its human redable
umbral zealot
like I don't get it
cinder patio
Cause of this
green kestrel
method call by the look of it
opal plank
its not a shitton of operators cuz you have no idea what they do
dusky sundial
RAPID is a fun programming language, you just need a $40k robot to use it
quartz kindle
try brainfuck
green kestrel
the arrow is pointing at the object it acts on
umbral zealot
js is fun cuz its human redable
Yes. Exactly. That's precisely why I stick with JS, not because it's easier, but because it's simpler to read and parse as a human being
opal plank
^^
green kestrel
I don't like how js builds objects
its more like a functional programming language than an object oriented one
you basically put a lambda in a dict lol
green kestrel
can end up with some very unreadable structures
quartz kindle
i like it because its super hackable
green kestrel
I like js for web front-end
quartz kindle
i hate front-end
green kestrel
where it belongs lol
opal plank
can we speak about ts?
quartz kindle
no
opal plank
green kestrel
to me, node is like one day someone woke up and thought
"today I'm going to take that tractor engine and put it in my Ferrari. and then use it as a generator to power my washing machine using a million hacky little dependencies made and maintained by strangers..."
quartz kindle
if its stupid but it works then its not stupid
vivid fulcrum
node is really only powerful in the UI department
i'll take node for UI apps over any other language anytime
for anything else, it's a nono
green kestrel
three words: npm is-even module.
umbral zealot
JS is more starting with a tractor then slowly adding more power, nitro, redoing the body, redesigining the transmission, and then eventually after a decade, you have something closer to a ferrari than your starter tractor, Brain. 😛
cinder patio
node.js is just V8 out of the browser
green kestrel
npm is ass
quartz kindle
three words: npm is-even module.
is-thirteen > is-even
green kestrel
node I can accept as an idea that works
but npm is just full of junk
like PHP composer is
cinder patio
I mean you don't have to use the trashy packages
green kestrel
you don't know if you are though
import one and it depends on a billion more under the hood
vivid fulcrum
and the reason why dependencies of your dependencies of its dependencies install their dependencies
cinder patio
Generally downloads and github stars are a pretty good indicator
green kestrel
that then depend on more still
quartz kindle
most of the time i end up building my own modules rather than using stuff from npm
except basic things like websockets and http
earnest phoenix
One moment @green kestrel, u are the developer of triviabot
quartz kindle
yes he is
earnest phoenix
Wow, I am quite new to this
I'm developing my first bot and let's see what happens
quartz kindle
good luck ;)
earnest phoenix
Ty
cinder patio
Okay so do you guys think... js would work without a gc... imagine js with manual memory management
vivid fulcrum
your average node dev doesn't know how to spell their own name
there wouldn't even be memory to manage 
cinder patio
true
quartz kindle
i think js could work well with manual memory
vivid fulcrum
considering it's really running on cpp
quartz kindle
its already a super simplified language, it could use some mechanism to create super simplified memory management
vivid fulcrum
if they just exposed the apis
it could be very useful
for people who actually know what they're doing
quartz kindle
well technically you already have buffers
green kestrel
except basic things like websockets and http
isn't this built in to v8
quartz kindle
which is kinda the same as malloc
cinder patio
Yeah but I don't think having both a gc and manual memory is a good idea
quartz kindle
isn't this built in to v8
yes but not the standards
cinder patio
How would that work
quartz kindle
node has tcp but not websocket according to rfc etc
so i rather use the ws package from npm
because icba making rfc stuff
cinder patio
Buffers still get gc-ed
green kestrel
i think js could work well with manual memory
I've seen someone on #osdev on IRC who made a js os, manual memory management and all the basic stuff trimmed out
cinder patio
but I guess you can allocate memory via them so that's kinda low-level
quartz kindle
i think ive seen something like that
buffers are garbage collected if you lose the reference to them
but if you create global buffers then no
green kestrel
@quartz kindle having spent 36 hours making voice I'm sick of looking at RFCs lol
cinder patio
well yea isn't that the case for all objects
green kestrel
I've had to delve into opus, RTP, and all sorts
quartz kindle
ye
rfc overcomplicates everything
because of compatibility constraints
simple js memory management: ```js
global.bufferCount = 0;
global.buffers = {};
function malloc(size) {
const buff = Buffer.alloc(size);
global.buffers[global.bufferCount++] = buff;
return buff;
}
function free(i) {
delete global.buffers[i];
}
xD
earnest phoenix
a simple question, how much ram is it advisable to have for a discord bot?
earnest phoenix
Shit
earnest phoenix
Hmm now 10 but i want more so
opal plank
i'd say 2gb, 4gb to be safe with a LOT of room for breathing
i dont think it'll hit 1gb anytime soon
so 2 would be your "good spot"
im recommending double so you dont have downtimes in case you need to increase
opal plank
on a reference for you
@earnest phoenix
2gb ram on detritus.js with 740K users and 5.5k guilds
thats why i asked if it was shit code/lib
earnest phoenix
Ok, tysm
green kestrel
<@456226577798135808>
grafana?
green kestrel
2gb is good going
opal plank
in fairness
green kestrel
for js
opal plank
theres a LOT of stuff here
green kestrel
especially with caching
opal plank
you have to multiply some of the stuff there
i got a lot of useless shit
image buffers stored
2 different entries for each user
so a user may end up having 3 different objects
one for my cache
one for detritus(for discord)
and one for genshin
green kestrel
you know,.I'd be curious to know how much ram a cached user takes up in discord.js
at the ram level natively
opal plank
if you were to build a bot on this scale with detritus, you'd be looking at around a gig prob
green kestrel
because you got a dict/map for an object with many more inside it
opal plank
i could make it a bit lighter by merging it all into a single map
instead of 3 different maps for each user-metadata
green kestrel
Chrome shows the size of each individual empty array as 32 bytes and the size of each empty object as 56 bytes. hmm @quartz kindle you think v8 is using STL maps and vectors? those sizes sure look like it
opal plank
i
fucking
aaarg
okay
hear me out
the request is sent in buffer format
now
hear me out
without manually copying this like a retard
and idk where this is coming from, otherwise i'd be able to add a proper capture block there
is there SOMETHING i can do to convert that body into a string?
once again, i've already copied 300 numbers before and converted it
green kestrel
copy it outta the buffer?
umbral zealot
well js has .toString() on Buffer objects...
opal plank
dont wanna do it again
umbral zealot
lol
opal plank
and its tilting me cuz its a promise that i clearly missed
umbral zealot
literally thing.request.body.toString() should do the trick, no?
opal plank
if i were to convert the buffer i'd get the content which would tell me
in code
yes
i only got this in console
green kestrel
its like an array you have to manage yourself that your access to is marshalled beyond usefulness isn't it
green kestrel
haha
quartz kindle
dafuq
quartz kindle
oh
opal plank
help me out here
quartz kindle
lmao
crimson vapor
what the fuck is this
opal plank
any digit, greedy, until :
quartz kindle
.split("\n").map(x => Number(x.split(";")[1]))
quartz kindle
why
ember wedge
nono
opal plank
imma use vsc to replaceall
ember wedge
split
quartz kindle
oh
ember wedge
oh
ember wedge
(\d*:)(\d*)\n
opal plank
just need to remove that
quartz kindle
try \n\d;
quartz kindle
just add the :
ember wedge
all roads lead to rome
quartz kindle
all romes lead to road
modest maple
all romes lead to romans
ember wedge
ember wedge
romes === sex
quartz kindle
wut
opal plank
ember wedge
\n\d*:
opal plank
ur regex didnt catch more than 1 digit
sour flame
...
opal plank
ey pog
okay
so
for future reference
you can only copy stuff from the debug console that you see on screen
so, if you scroll up, everything that dissapears below wont be copied
therefore i pressed ctrl + - a couple dozen times where i could fit everything on the screen
quartz kindle
lmao
blissful coral
Are you able to get a form element in js and call a submit function on it
Don't really know if thats a thing
modest maple
just give it an id and get the element
blissful coral
I know that part
modest maple
if you want to make a submit button either use the linking submit tag or just a seperate button that know's what form it's refering to
blissful coral
I got the document.getElementById() part
blissful coral
if you want to make a submit button either use the linking submit tag or just a ...
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https://extreme.is-a.computer/files/Dl0i08jDzjjarJGM.png
https://extreme.is-a.computer/files/OdAOIvGERAQMqBNe.png this doesn't seem to work
@modest maple Any idea why this wouldn't click?
quartz kindle
.submit()
blissful coral
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blissful coral
If I have 10000 servers and 10 shards, whats a good amount of clusters to have?
drifting wedge
1
blissful coral
only 1?
blissful coral
When should it be upscaled to 2
drifting wedge
But you shouldn't be 1k / shards
blissful coral
well how many shards per cluster is optimal?
drifting wedge
2.5k guilds / shard is the perfect amount, but it's the max
So like maybe around 2k / shard
I would say, around like 14-18ish shards
Split in 2
blissful coral
kk
drifting wedge
But that's already a little overkill
You won't need to cluster more
For a while
blissful coral
weird djs shardingmanager is taking discords recommended shard counts and is putting us at 10
for 10k servers
silk turtle
Wtf is this
drifting wedge
Really!?
drifting wedge
@rustic nova
blissful coral
@rustic nova
crimson vapor
@rustic nova
blissful coral
LOL
rustic nova
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Banned urmomsunderwear#2954 (@silk turtle)
quartz kindle
Lol
drifting wedge
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