development

[opal plank]

its basically a map

[violet haven]

i don't understand the ref thing

[opal plank]

probably got a reference

[violet haven]

how do i access?

[opal plank]

do <Collection>.get('🟢')

or

if thats ur first

<Collection>.first()

i think d.js implements first()

[lament rock]

It does

[opal plank]

then perfect

[violet haven]

first? the first part of the map?

[opal plank]

not part of Map

but part of Collection

[violet haven]

it's like the first react?

[lament rock]

Collection<K, V>.first(): V

[opal plank]

should, yes

[lament rock]

gets the first entry in the Collection

in this case 🟢

[violet haven]

@opal plank @lament rock thx it works well

[empty pond]

How to do that if someone votes my bot i would get a message in a channel

[opal plank]

use webhooks, check the topic of #topgg-api

[empty pond]

what is package for that

means what to write npm i ?

[lament rock]

If you present a toast for someone to vote for your bot, you would have to store a user ID and a message ID and a channel ID in memory or in a database which can be accessed at a later time and get the channel by ID and get the message by ID

[feral aspen]

Hi.

https://discord.js.org/#/docs/main/stable/class/MessageEmbed?scrollTo=addField

In the value argument, can I make a loop inside it? 👀

[lament rock]

loop to do what

[feral aspen]

Loop through an object.

[crimson vapor]

hi @opal plank

[lament rock]

depends what you want to do with the Object. You can use methods on ArrayLike which return an acceptable value for MessageEmbed.addField value like Array.map or Array.reduce which iterate over the Array and return a value

Object.values(obj).map

[feral aspen]

Oh, forgot about that!

Thanks.

[drifting wedge]

how do i import a file from a folder above?

add.py
-> calculator.py```

and i want to import function from add.py

in the calculator.py file>

[slender thistle]

Can't you do from ..add import function

[pale vessel]

shouldn't it be a package?

[slender thistle]

Package as in?

Don't see how that applies here

[pale vessel]

hmm ok

[opal plank]

[lament rock]

btw @opal plank, can you link me detritus gh? Need to rewrite a bot

Heap too chomk

[opal plank]

sure

[onyx hare]

im testing this cooldown, i have this it kinda works for one person just doesn't trigger like it should after the message is sent the first time that sends with it then ill try n figure out how to convert it to be a guild cooldown

    if (message !== null && timeout - (Date.now() - message) > 0) {
        let time = ms(timeout - (Date.now() - message));
         message.channel.send(":x: There Already Was An Explosion. " + `Try Again In**${time.minutes} Minutes**`);  
    }

my english broke in that sentence

[opal plank]

https://detritusjs.com/ website/docs
https://www.npmjs.com/package/detritus-client npm
https://github.com/detritusjs/client gh
https://discord.gg/NEq6wws support server
https://github.com/cakedan/notsobot.ts/tree/master/src example of a good bot

[lament rock]

PogYou. Gracias

[opal plank]

No problemo manito

[steep drum]

You're subtracting a message from a date? What's that supposed to do?

[lament rock]

I know instanceof Message can be coerced to a string which can be coerced to a number, but I don't think JS takes that route ever unless explicitly written.

Not the answer tho xd

[drifting wedge]

attempted relative import beyond top-level package

@slender thistle

[zenith terrace]

Erwin probably has all the detritus links open on chrome or something waiting for someone to ask about it

[steep drum]

I thought Erwin was a bot made in detritus?

[pale vessel]

selfbot?

[lament rock]

Possibly. Natural language isn't impossible

[steep drum]

It's a vicious cycle

[slender thistle]

Interesting

[drifting wedge]

from ....client.userprofile import createUser

more exact but same idea

[pale vessel]

does it have an init file

[drifting wedge]

no but its not a package?

[slender thistle]

It doesn't need to be, technically

sec

[drifting wedge]

its just a file with a single function?

[pale vessel]

really?

i read that it needed to be a package

[onyx hare]

idk, im not used to cooldowns, its to prevent the command being abused really as it mass pings 10 random ppl lmao

[pale vessel]

hence why i asked

[drifting wedge]

yeah but its a file

not a package

so thats my issue

i alwats struggle with importing functions

from other files

[slender thistle]

Sec

[fervent goblet]

How do i get the permissions set for a specific role in a channel? discord.js

[pale vessel]

https://discord.js.org/#/docs/main/stable/class/Role?scrollTo=permissionsIn total perms
<#development message> overwrites

[fervent goblet]

i have only found the final permissions but i need to get the permissions for only that role

even if its unset

[steep drum]

Then you should subtract the time you received the message and the last time the command was invoked

[slender thistle]

or well

[steep drum]

You shouldn't subtract 2 different types of objects just because

[lament rock]

GuildChannel.permissionOverrides: Collection<string, PermissionOverwrites>

you can get the PermissionOverwrites by ID since it's keyed by either member IDs or Role IDs

[earnest phoenix]

How to make a dj only Command

[lament rock]

check if a member has a role

[unreal estuary]

has anyone used discordphp here

[slender thistle]

@drifting wedge

# cogs/fun.py
from bot import TestCog

print(TestCog)

# main.py
class TestCog:
    pass

Works

Don't ask me how or why, but it does

[drifting wedge]

wait wtf

i treat class as a func/

???

i need params...

[slender thistle]

wdym class as a func

[drifting wedge]

idk

[slender thistle]

that's just my example

[drifting wedge]

so the class

testcog.functiom()?

[slender thistle]

seems so

[drifting wedge]

ty

[slender thistle]

# cogs/fun.py
from bot import test

test()

# main.py
def test():
    print("w")

so yeah

you get the gist

[unreal estuary]

has anyone used discord php

[drifting wedge]

wait wot

dont u need the class?

[pale vessel]

just ask your question

[slender thistle]

Which class?

I'm rather curious what you're trying to do

[unreal estuary]

how do i send a message im gonna cry

with discord php

[drifting wedge]

lemme explain exactly

so basically

i have a user profile data structure

for user data

[pale vessel]

if you only need to send a message, why not use curl?

[drifting wedge]

but if i edit it, i dont want to edit it in all the cogs

[unreal estuary]

i cant figure out how to im looking through the docs

[drifting wedge]

so i have the cogs import this one function that has the user profile]

so o i only edit it there

[unreal estuary]

i sound rlly dumb

[slender thistle]

Sounds interesting. Does the function cache anything, or like... how does it work?

And, also, does it work?

That question bothers me more than anything rn since my head hurts

[drifting wedge]

it does

but i need to import it in the cogs

async def createUser(id):
    user_info = {
        "_id": id,

        "account_info": {
            "premium": False,
            "bought": None,
            "ends": None,
        },

        "quests": {
            "level":0,
            "xp":0,
            "active_quest_ids":None,
            "quest_timer":None
        },

        "currency": 
            {
                "on_message_multiplier": 1,
                "bank_limit": 2500,
                "bank": 0,
                "type" : "multiplayer",
                "coins" : 0,
                "tokens" : 0,
                "tickets": 0,
                "pets": None
            },
        "lootboxes": None,
        "levels": {
            "level":None,
            "xp":None,
        },

        "pet": {
            "alive": True,
            "name": None,
            "training": {
                "level":None,
                "xp":None
            },
            "age":None,
            "id":None
        },
        
        "profile": {
            "bio":"No Bio Set",
            "title":None,
            "badges_active":None,
            "badges_owned":None,
        },

        "guilds": {
            "in_guild":None,
            "guildname":None,
        },

        "daily_rewards": {
            "day":1,
            "date":None,
        },

        "daily_quests": {
            "level": None,
            "xp": None,
            "current_quests": {
                "today_quests": None,
                "today_quests_complete": None,
            }
        },

        }

    collection.insert_one(user_info)```

sorry for spam

[slender thistle]

That's the function that you want to import?

[drifting wedge]

yes

[modest maple]

why...

[slender thistle]

camel case in Python reeee

[modest maple]

why is that async

and why is that hardcoded

and why is that even in a function scope

[drifting wedge]

because its in a discord bot

and i dont want to make it wait

?

[modest maple]

and that changes what exacly?

thats not how async works

[modest maple]

just because it's a coroutine function doesnt mean it wont block

[slender thistle]

It doesn't magically become asynchronous anyways so the async is redundant

[modest maple]

it just means if it wants to yield to a future it can

hence why time.sleep in a coroutine still blocks

[drifting wedge]

it gets called in another async func

[slender thistle]

That doesn't matter really

[drifting wedge]

:p

[slender thistle]

It's still just redundant

[drifting wedge]

alr

but when how do i make it not blocking?

or would it already not be>

[slender thistle]

The execution time with pymongo isn't noticeable so I wouldn't worry about that

[drifting wedge]

ehh i mean i want to make it as fast as possible

[earnest phoenix]

It's always a good idea to switch to async driver in this case nonetheless

Making something async doesn't necessarily mean making it faster

[drifting wedge]

so i was right>

see im a good programmer man

oh 😦

[slender thistle]

Motor is deprecated, isn't it?

[earnest phoenix]

I'm not saying that, your async def is superfluous no matter what

[modest maple]

motor's deprecated?

[earnest phoenix]

No clue, haven't used mongo actually

[slender thistle]

Haven't seen it updated a few months ago when I looked at it

Oh, 4 days ago last commit

[modest maple]

doesnt look deprecated to me

they deprecated py 2

if thats what you mean

[slender thistle]

Yeah I'm not sure what the fuck made me think it's deprecated

[drifting wedge]

pymongo works fine?

[slender thistle]

Could probably go with Motor

since that seems to be async

[drifting wedge]

ill make a note of it

not intrested in switching now though

[crimson vapor]

nice you responded

[drifting wedge]

wait maybe...

what do i need for it?

[slender thistle]

a?

[drifting wedge]

wait so shiv, what do i need to do for the importing of the function again?

[slender thistle]

Is it a method or a file-level function?

[drifting wedge]

uhhh....

its a function

😆

[slender thistle]

Then yeah, from cog import createUser I guess

[drifting wedge]

yeah thw issue is the relative import beyond top-level package

@slender thistle

attempted relative import beyond top-level package

sorry for the ping lmfao

and thanks for the help

[slender thistle]

import cog; cog.createUser

[drifting wedge]

oh ok

and i want to make it a class?

[slender thistle]

wdym a class

[drifting wedge]

in the function file

because its not an actual cog

its jsut a file

[slender thistle]

Can you show what the file looks like?

[drifting wedge]

fullhttps://paste.pythondiscord.com/jovexiyoje.py

full file ^

[slender thistle]

Why is it in a class?

You could just have it as a function in a file

[drifting wedge]

YOU TOLD ME TO

[slender thistle]

errr

[drifting wedge]

ok removed class

rest it good?

?

[slender thistle]

Ya no need for the class

Try it

[drifting wedge]

well i cant lmfao

im on mac cuz travelling

and it cant run discord bots lol

so im just winging it all lmfao

[slender thistle]

Oh dear

repl time

[drifting wedge]

lol

might vps it

but idk

ill be travelling for lie 4 months lmfao

when i get back

[slender thistle]

wew

[drifting wedge]

oh dear lol

bugfixing time

[slender thistle]

I mean, it should be good

[drifting wedge]

me telling my team we need to rewrite some stuff

current code: if 'false' == funtoggled:

[slender thistle]

lmfao

[fervent goblet]

how do i check if a bitfield contains SEND_MESSAGES ?

[slender thistle]

The bit is 0x800

[earnest phoenix]

(<YourBitfield> & <SEND_MESSAGES bitfield>) === <SEND_MESSAGES bitfield>

[drifting wedge]

@slender thistle i know im hella annoying but last one: attempted relative import beyond top-level package

from ...userprofile import createUser

[fervent goblet]

I am trying to specifically check if the @ everyone role is allowed to send messages or is neutral

in a channel

[slender thistle]

import userprofile

[earnest phoenix]

What lib

[fervent goblet]

discord.js

[drifting wedge]

no worky

package not found

its not a package

[earnest phoenix]

https://discord.js.org/#/docs/main/stable/class/GuildChannel?scrollTo=permissionsFor

[fervent goblet]

permissionsFor adds all the overwrites

i need it before

[earnest phoenix]

wut

[fervent goblet]

so permissionsFor accounts for every other overwrite

like other roles

[earnest phoenix]

<GuildChannel>.permissionsFor() gets the overwrite for that specific user or role and checks if it has those permissions

Not every other overwrite

[inland lake]

how can I check when my bot is going to be looked at?

[quartz kindle]

you cant

[slender thistle]

You up for fucking around with sys.path? 😛

[earnest phoenix]

Shivaco i don't about shards and what is sharding.Can you explain me?

[drifting wedge]

no

well its fine ig

because i can just set it up for vps

but like i would like to make it relative

but if its for absolute then i got it

but i really dont want to

[winged linden]

If your bot isnt in above 1.5k servers u dont even need to worry about it

[drifting wedge]

ooooh shiv i have an idea

rememebrt that api i (you) made?

with aiohtt?

i can do it via there

[slender thistle]

As in?

[drifting wedge]

make a route for it that makes the user profie

[slender thistle]

ehhh

[earnest phoenix]

No but i need to know what is sharding.So that it can help me in future

[drifting wedge]

no fucking with functions / path required

but it would be like 5-10 requests / sec

so idk if itll survive

i could do it in my flask server then?

its supposed to be beffier

beefier

[slender thistle]

Absolute imports are reasonable here imo

[drifting wedge]

maybe

but it would be for vps only

because i dont even know how to fucking open my files on mac

[slender thistle]

import sys, os

sys.path.insert(0, os.path.dirname(".."))

import main

print(main.mystr)

This is so dumb

yet it works

[earnest phoenix]

@earnest phoenix
Sharding is a method to split portions of bots into separate processes. This is an enforced strategy by Discord once a bot reaches a certain number of guilds (2500). Once this number is reached, a bot must be sharded in a way that only 2500 guilds maximum may be allocated per shard.

[slender thistle]

You could go with websockets for this if you were to have a local API doing it for you

[drifting wedge]

alr ty shiv

[earnest phoenix]

Oh i see.Tysm❤️

[slender thistle]

But yeah

Python imports are fun

[earnest phoenix]

What if i don't shard after reaching 2.5k guilds?

[slender thistle]

Then you can't log into the bot account

[earnest phoenix]

Oj

Oh*

[earnest phoenix]

Every shard can only contain 2.5k guilds

Oh

So you would receive an error from discord's gateway

Can i shard now? Actually it's in 74 guilds as of now

[slender thistle]

You always can

[earnest phoenix]

Oh

Ok

You can shard whenever you want

[slender thistle]

It's just pointless until a certain point

[earnest phoenix]

Oh

Thanks to both of you shivaco and voltrex for the info ❤️

But it is recommended to shard after 2.5k guilds, since the bot has to handle more than a single process, and also your bot is already sharded by default

[drifting wedge]

wait i dont get it

how do i import it?

thats the issue

[earnest phoenix]

Every bot runs on at least one shard called shard 0

[earnest phoenix]

oh ok ty

[slender thistle]

Well...

[earnest phoenix]

Oh

[slender thistle]

What's your file structure?

[drifting wedge]

oh its a mess

[slender thistle]

... so long as it's readable

[drifting wedge]

it is i just dont know how ur thingy works

[pallid garden]

How i make a bot in tt gg website

[slender thistle]

It adds the level above the file to sys.path and then imports the file

hence the ..

[pallid garden]

?

[drifting wedge]

WAT MY BRAIN IS MELTING

[slender thistle]

See my file structure here

[pallid garden]

Oh i using android

Dont have pc

[drifting wedge]

wtf is going on

MY BRAIINNN

[slender thistle]

You first create a bot by coding it, then make sure you can afford running it 24/7

[pallid garden]

Its free make one?

[slender thistle]

After all that is done, only then should you submit it on top.gg

It's free to make one unless you somehow end up using services that force you to pay for it

[pallid garden]

Hate paying lol

[slender thistle]

Which part are you confused about?

[pallid garden]

I like make bot free

[slender thistle]

    @commands.command()
    async def say(self, ctx, *, msg):
        """Make the bot say something."""
        await ctx.send(
            msg.replace("@everyone", "@\u200beveryone").replace("@here", "@\u200bhere"))  # NO @EVERYONE PINGS FOR YA.

I struggle to see my own code from 2019

[pallid garden]

👀

[pallid garden]

That how they make poketwo bot

?

[slender thistle]

I highly doubt Poketwo is written in Python

[pallid garden]

Poketwo have lots views

Also copyright

Not from nintendo though

[drifting wedge]

mee6 is lmfoa

[pallid garden]

Because nintendo hate Copyright fan

[slender thistle]

** member is sent when the command is invoked in a guild, and user is sent when invoked in a DM

... This is fun

[drifting wedge]

shiv the absolute approach wont work

[pallid garden]

[drifting wedge]

not for me on mac

:p

[slender thistle]

...?????

[drifting wedge]

so either: webserver or try to import it

im not good with mac, its too weird

[pallid garden]

What bot you make?

[slender thistle]

Can you print what os.path.dirname("..") returns?

[drifting wedge]

i cant deal with figuring this out rn

my brain is melting

[slender thistle]

None. I only own one that's used by top.gg library developers

Take a break, yeah

[pallid garden]

Gotta be carefull random people make illegal bot.

[slender thistle]

[pallid garden]

Yeah tsk tsk

People do make legal bot as long is legal

[cosmic forum]

Anyone know how I can connect via ssh on Visual Studio Code using an ssh key file? (ssh_key.key)

[pallid garden]

Question what prefix means

[drifting wedge]

immma take a break because im fucking dying rn

but the sys thing wont work

but ill try something else

bye

i will sleep

and not melt my brain

[slender thistle]

Have a good nap

[drifting wedge]

ah fuck im still in school

AHHHH

typo

ok bye

[slender thistle]

Oof

[pallid garden]

School you should do school work not on discord tsk tsk children these days.

[drifting wedge]

leave me alone dude

go learn how to code or whatever

[pallid garden]

?

@slender thistle what his problem?

[slender thistle]

Give him a break, he's tired

[pallid garden]

Probably he grumpty yeah.

[drifting wedge]

yeah sorry if i was rude

cya

[pallid garden]

@slender thistle should i make random ID?

[slender thistle]

ID?

[pallid garden]

Yeah in add new bot

[slender thistle]

Well, yeah, you do need a bot account

[pallid garden]

I make randomly?

[slender thistle]

IDs are generated randomly by Discord

[pallid garden]

Oh

Gonna make a legal.bot no illegal bot lol

Do i have a github?

[cinder patio]

you should be able to answer that question

[pallid garden]

Courage :D

@cinder patio remember that show cockaroach say good good

[drifting wedge]

@pallid garden what language do you want to make it in?

[pallid garden]

What???

[steep drum]

you're not ready to make a bot, learn a programming language first

[drifting wedge]

eh

i learnt how to make a bot before learning a lang lol

prob why im not such a good programmer lmfao

[lyric mountain]

it's like cooking for the first time without watching videos

some people can make a nice steak on the first try

[steep drum]

wait, how did you program a bot before learning a programming language?

[lyric mountain]

but some people will set the kitchen on fire

[boreal iron]

[lyric mountain]

he meant "I learnt as I made a bot"

[solemn latch]

lots of copy pasting and hoping it works 😄

[pallid garden]

@solemn latch i wanna make a bot for pokemon

[solemn latch]

its generally much much faster to start by learning first. but some people decide to go the long route because it seems faster.

pokemons a fun one

[pallid garden]

Yes

Only legal bot not illegal

[solemn latch]

luckily a lot of the datasets you need are readily available through various wiki's

[lyric mountain]

you need to learn how to handle APIs and databases

[pallid garden]

I saw one in website for pokemon shield and sword genned hex code

Tsk tsk

In top gg

[lyric mountain]

what?

[pallid garden]

Yeah

I stay away from it

[lyric mountain]

no, like, what did you say?

[pallid garden]

Its a copyright

[lyric mountain]

don't think anyone will bother to sue a minor discord bot

not even pokecord got sued

[pallid garden]

So the bot will dm you link trade in pokemon shield and sword game

I try it once i kick bot out

I did release it in the wild

[solemn latch]

sounds interesting.

[pallid garden]

Yeah that illegal to make

Funny how bot trade you a pokemon in shield and sword game

[lyric mountain]

not sure what you're talking about but I'd say it's not illegal at all unless it was some kind of hack or something

[pallid garden]

Yeah hack

They use a code make discord bot from it

Its call miku bot

I saw one

I recommend stay way from it

[lyric mountain]

no don't think it's illegal

since there are official sites mentioning such codes

guess you're confusing stuff but whatever

[solemn latch]

I actually wonder how DMCA works with API's like that.
If I use an API, which doesn't have the license to use images, and I use that API, can I realistically be dmca'ed since I don't have any of the photos myself.

[steep drum]

fan sites use those assets though? i think it straddles the line on fair use

[lyric mountain]

yeah, unless you're selling the photos it's ok

[steep drum]

as long as you're not trying to make money off it?

[lyric mountain]

pokemon wouldn't be as big as it is without fan stuff

[solemn latch]

I didnt think fair use accounted for if your making money.

licenses can, but i dont think thats fair use is it?

[lyric mountain]

you're not selling the photos, you're making money out of ads or stuff like that

so your income from the images is 0

[opal plank]

im fairly certain the definition of "fair use" is that you somehow have to modify the contents of the overall piece, as in, the asset you are taking is only being used to supplement your theory/content, not be the main focus of it

(also im here cuz the dorks are bullying me in #general )

[solemn latch]

yeah thats what i thought too erwin

[opal plank]

i dont think money/selling has anything to do with it, legally speaking

that would be part of licensing

[solemn latch]

what do you think of this erwin?

I actually wonder how DMCA works with API's like that.
If I use an API, which doesn't have the license to use images, and I use that API, can I realistically be dmca'ed since I don't have any of the photos myself.

[opal plank]

where you would pay someone to acquire rights to distribute it or use it as you wish

[crimson vapor]

what the fuck Erwin you left general for development

wow

[opal plank]

im not a lawyer, so i can only do speculation, not give legal advice, but based off what youtube does, the platform isnt responsible for the content users provide

assuming the content you have in the api is user-based

and you have a way to allow the owners of the copyright material to remove it

i think you can avoid legal issues to an extent

thats literally what youtube does

[opal plank]

#development message

that would hold true for imgur or any hosting service, for example

[crimson vapor]

man

[lyric mountain]

torrent sites be like

[solemn latch]

well, in this context we are talking about pokemon photo's being in an api, and a seperate dev using those images.
the api owners dont have legal right to those images, would the seperate dev be in any way responsible.

[crimson vapor]

we weren't bullying you

[steep drum]

this is just wikipedia so take it with a grain of salt

The first factor is "the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes."

[pallid garden]

@solemn latch yeah i did contact email

[lyric mountain]

api user isn't responsible

[opal plank]

if you are the owner of that content, you can always request it to be taken down

[lyric mountain]

so like, the only one to blame is the service owner

[opal plank]

though like i said, it would go into fair-use grounds

[solemn latch]

nice.

[pallid garden]

Yep

[opal plank]

is what they do around the image?

or does the image supplement their content?

theres a lot of caveats for fair use

best to talk with a lawyer about it tbh

[pallid garden]

Usally nintendo hate fans copyrights

[lyric mountain]

they don't

[pallid garden]

Like pokecord and poketwo

They do lol

[lyric mountain]

pokecord/poketwo are free advertising for them

popular pokemon bots = more people interested in pokemon

[opal plank]

nintendo went as far as copyright claiming videos on youtube from people playing their games

[pallid garden]

Like in roblox nintendo banned pokemon in roblox games.

[lyric mountain]

that's dumb af

[opal plank]

nintendo is WELL known for going overboard on copyrighted content

[solemn latch]

I guess my question is less about fair use, and more about if there was copyright infringement and there's two parties(api owner, separate dev)
can both of them be realistically charged(wrong word for this, but im blanking) separately.

[opal plank]

https://www.mcvuk.com/business-news/nintendo-issues-hundreds-of-copyright-strikes-against-youtube-creators-sharing-nintendo-music/

[pallid garden]

Like they did with pokemon bronze bricks game

They remove it

[lyric mountain]

lol wtf are the CEOs thinking

[solemn latch]

they do a lot of silly things.

[opal plank]

Nintendo™️

[solemn latch]

have for years

[pallid garden]

Yeah

[opal plank]

im fairl certain what harry said is true

they did have a dispute with nitendo regarding a minecraft pokemon mod

[pallid garden]

Reason why nintendo dont like fans copyrights

Minecraft in nintendo switch

Its not kinda like copyright

[opal plank]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/222sep/the_pixelmon_mod_how_was_this_ever_legal/

[pallid garden]

Hmm

[vivid fulcrum]

literally every industry became like this

including the music industry too

[opal plank]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsLEM-zsKP0&ab_channel=Logdotzip

[pallid garden]

People they never learn tsk tsk

[vivid fulcrum]

greedy capitalists stripping away creative freedom just to ooze more money out of you

[opal plank]

nintendo goes literally overboard on anything they can claim

he said the word "nintendo" in his video, copyright em'

said "nintendo" in a discord server, get em'

[pallid garden]

Yeah copyright illegal

[lyric mountain]

you use the word "copyright" a lot don't u?

[pallid garden]

Sometime yeah remind people lol

But they don't care

[lyric mountain]

basically the best mod for minecraft when it appeared

[opal plank]

i give that to zr's modloader and the mobs from the old days, but sure

[lyric mountain]

copyright = not illegal, it means that someone hold all rights over something

[pallid garden]

Only nintendo and pokemon own it

[lyric mountain]

only nintendo owns it

[pallid garden]

Yeah both

[lyric mountain]

no

pokemon is a copyrighted thing of nintendo

[solemn latch]

pokemon isnt a company afaik.

its like saying my shoe owns my shoe :p

[pallid garden]

lol

I email nintendo before emualtor and roms illegal

[opal plank]

isnt it something freak?

GameFreak or something

or is that the publisher?

[pallid garden]

They say yeah its illegal

[lyric mountain]

obv roms are illegal

[opal plank]

i always remember seeing that name in the old versions

[pallid garden]

Well nintendo say to me emulator illegal as well

[lyric mountain]

it is

[pallid garden]

Yep

[last tapir]

welp

[pallid garden]

Some people say is not illegal lol

[last tapir]

let a = 8, b = 6;
// Only change code below this line
//6,8     6, 8
console.log(a, b)
[a, b] = [b, a];

console.log(a, b)
```**
Console:**
8 6
TypeError: Cannot set property '6' of undefined

[earnest phoenix]

what

[opal plank]

thats not how js works

[last tapir]

idk, i think that is how destructuring array works

[pallid garden]

I think coding hard for me their anyway with no coding?

[opal plank]

not even close

[earnest phoenix]

dbd.js for discord bots

[opal plank]

destructuring arrays are [...]

[pallid garden]

?

[lyric mountain]

dbd is not an option

[earnest phoenix]

that is for noobs

[opal plank]

let a = [1, 2, 3];
let b = [...a, 4];
console.log(b) // [1,2,3,4]

[pallid garden]

Yeah if people cant code they use different option

[opal plank]

thats destructuring arrays @last tapir

[solemn latch]

hiring a dev is a good option for people who cant code but need code.

[lyric mountain]

dbd is like this

[earnest phoenix]

Learn Js since it is really easy to learn.Js is best documentated my MDN

[lyric mountain]

a box of cooked potato

and it's expensive af

[crimson vapor]

true

[solemn latch]

yum.

[pallid garden]

👀

[lyric mountain]

it's just. cooked. potatos

like

who can't cook potatos?

[earnest phoenix]

true

[solemn latch]

who cant change oil? 👀

still, nearly everyone gets their oil changed professionally

[lyric mountain]

[pallid garden]

lol gotta go talk you later.

Doing some house work.

[opal plank]

everyone can cook potatoes, but very few of them dont accidently burn it
and even less people make it edible
and even less make it taste good

How to Chef

[lyric mountain]

how do you burn a cooked potato?

[crimson vapor]

its potatoes

just boil them

ezpz

[opal plank]

look, i know people who legit burn cup noodles

[pallid garden]

@opal plank youtube cooking video helps

[opal plank]

dont doubt poeople's ignorance

[lyric mountain]

lol wtf

[earnest phoenix]

[crimson vapor]

how

what the fuck

Erwin

you gotta get away from those people

might spread to you

[lyric mountain]

well, I mean, internet is full of those stuff

like that cow on top of a water tower

[opal plank]

when the sprite doesnt load in time

cries is slow pc

[lyric mountain]

ah, yes, this one

[opal plank]

funfact

[earnest phoenix]

What are the max slash commands a bot can have?

[opal plank]

cows ACTUALLY cant walk downstairs

[lyric mountain]

and pigs can't look up in the sky

[opal plank]

and discord devs cant dev

[cinder patio]

50?

I think

afaik

[opal plank]

thats rather small ngl

[earnest phoenix]

oh :C no custom slash commands

[cinder patio]

actually 100

[opal plank]

i might try slash commands

[vivid fulcrum]

slash commands are garbage

[opal plank]

[cinder patio]

100 global and then 100 per guild

[opal plank]

havent seen more than a handful of people use it tbh

[cinder patio]

I think they can be useful for certain type of bots

[lament rock]

would be very situation

a lot of bots that do implement them that I've seen do so in such an unproductive manner

[opal plank]

if i were to do it, it'd probably be an extension of normal commands

so you could use both

[cinder patio]

that's kinda pointless tbh

[opal plank]

was about to say that tbh

[steep drum]

you're missing semicolons after the console.log

[cinder patio]

Slash commands are good for when you want to make it look like the bot is integrated with discord, there was a gif of a translation bot recently that used slash commands - definitely better than using regular commands

[zinc marlin]

How make splash commands 👀

[opal plank]

throw water at it

[crimson vapor]

yeah fl0w's bot

[opal plank]

splash commands

[zinc marlin]

🤡

😂

[lyric mountain]

is plash

[crimson vapor]

I kinda want to try slash commands but idk seems like there is no point

[opal plank]

@zinc marlin https://discord.com/developers/docs/interactions/slash-commands

[lyric mountain]

slash commands are superfluous

[crimson vapor]

would be nice if it was implemented well into libs

cough @slim heart cough

[cinder patio]

A big pro is being able to send client-only messages, so only the person can see the command can see em

[lyric mountain]

it'd be a great thing IF they added it together with the bot api

[opal plank]

the ONLY good thing i take from them is arguments, but in all honesty, theres not much there

[lyric mountain]

but now?

they're too late

[slim heart]

fucking

leave me be u stinky boitch

[opal plank]

since it explains visually what arguments are required

[lyric mountain]

yes, that

[crimson vapor]

lmao

[cinder patio]

yeah arguments are great too

[opal plank]

but i already have catches and error parsing in the bot normally

[slim heart]

if someone is gonna use slash commands with rose, their bot is gonna be big, so they should be making their own http thing instead of the gateway

[opal plank]

so, theres that too

[crimson vapor]

true

but that seems like justification of being lazy

imo

[opal plank]

i THINK i might be able to adapt detritus command handler with it

[slim heart]

thats exactly what it is

[crimson vapor]

imagine weather bot with fucking slash commands

that would be so cool

[opal plank]

so the same function from the handler can be executed for the interactions

let me ask cake rq

[lament rock]

argument type parsing and required/optional args are great

[opal plank]

there are a LOT of caveats though

but i think its possible to emit a payload containing all info that a normal payload would have

[earnest phoenix]

That's right, Pico from Newgrounds

[near igloo]

alright why this happens, but running this line of code:js Object.keys(require.cache).forEach(key => delete require.cache[key]) makes js message.author.send("test")return (node:12056) UnhandledPromiseRejectionWarning: DiscordAPIError: Unknown Channelidk why

[slim heart]

@crimson vapor with cache optimization yt uses only 2.9GB B)

[crimson vapor]

pog

6gb before?

[slim heart]

4

[crimson vapor]

ah

so down a gb

pog

[slim heart]

2

well

yeah]

1.1

[lament rock]

You're dropping EVERY required file from the cache which can cause data to be swept which can include data important to Discord.js

Do not drop everything in the require.cache. Only what you actually need to drop and re-require. You cannot reload Discord.js live since your client instance is still bound to a stale require of Discord.js and the data that reaches the root will not be swept

[near igloo]

im trying to reload a self made module file

[earnest phoenix]

is it possible to send a "ping" from html script tag to node js server to run a function?

question mark

[lament rock]

require.cache is keyed by absolute paths to files. You can drop that specifically and then re-require. If it has sub-module requires, you can also drop those since require.cache is an Object.<string, Module> and Module has a sub module property on it. I forget it's exact name. You'd basically recursively go through modules and their children and drop them then re-require the entry point

https://github.com/AmandaDiscord/Reloader/blob/5b4b308b9f258571846fef5f60a16d780e8b5673/src/index.ts#L128

This is actually a good reference I wrote

[slim heart]

@crimson vapor dont tell erwin but i just tested it and detritus has a 300MB overhead above rose with the same settings

[crimson vapor]

the way its built means that it has a higher overhead

also im like 60% sure with some cache disabled, commands don't work

[slim heart]

idk

[lyric mountain]

explain that better

what do you mean by "ping"?

[vivid fulcrum]

it isn't anyway

[slim heart]

i had channels roles guilds on

[vivid fulcrum]

html is incapable of doing anything

[lyric mountain]

script tag

[crimson vapor]

ok

[slim heart]

and the same "cache control"

[vivid fulcrum]

oh

[lyric mountain]

so ig js

[vivid fulcrum]

im blind

[crimson vapor]

I forget which ones didn't work for me when I was doing basic testing

[earnest phoenix]

idk

a scipt tag with an click event

that can activate a function

from node.js

[steep drum]

use ajax

[earnest phoenix]

is it possible

?

[lament rock]

you can also abuse img tags to force a GET

[lyric mountain]

you can use fetch to call some serverside endpoint

there are a myriad of options actually

[vocal trellis]

If i restart my bot and a user react nothing happends. If the user types something in a channel and tries it then again it works
Do you know how to fix this?
i already use partials

[lyric mountain]

depends on how dirty you're willing to get

[near igloo]

tysm ill look into that

[lyric mountain]

could u reword that?

[vocal trellis]

ow lol

sorry

[lyric mountain]

like, you want reaction events to work?

[vocal trellis]

yes

[lyric mountain]

show current code

[vocal trellis]

if i restart my bot and a user reacts my bots embed it doesnt work and if the user types a message and then reacts the event works

[lyric mountain]

show current code

[opal plank]

wew

how many calls you doing PER command?

[vocal trellis]

calls?

what do you mean with calls

[opal plank]

i see 6 calls PER command

either db calls

or fetch calls

[vivid fulcrum]

are you sure those are db calls

they just seem like unnecessary awaiters on a getter

[crimson vapor]

what lib is that?

[vivid fulcrum]

aka "i have no idea how async works so lets just put await on everything"

[opal plank]

it looks like mongodb

or some other document based db

[crimson vapor]

nah thats not mongodb

well I doubt it is

[earnest phoenix]

I see both MongoDB and enmap based calls

[slim umbra]

looks a little like typeorm

[opal plank]

updateOne() is definitively mongo

[slim umbra]

but na

[opal plank]

thats what gave it away for me

[crimson vapor]

await

[opal plank]

mongoose uses that no?

[slim umbra]

wtf is that editor

[crimson vapor]

it does

thats vsc

[slim umbra]

https://my-cool.tech/oxukwDd.png

or font*

[earnest phoenix]

Putting await keyword before every type of operation moment

[crimson vapor]

its just low quality ss

[slim umbra]

get eslint @ whoever wrote that

or grow eyes

[crimson vapor]

nah

standardjs

[opal plank]

heres another good part

you can have reactionAdd on channelDM's

which wont have guild with it

[lament rock]

get accessors can return a Promise btw

[slim umbra]

this is arguably worse https://my-cool.tech/AELk57D.png

just a wasted api call

[crimson vapor]

its really uncommon tho

[slim umbra]

no use

[opal plank]

not only that

those are all executed on any reaction it seems

[slim umbra]

yeah

as if https://my-cool.tech/bgUESMi.png .replaceAll isnt a thing

[lyric mountain]

what do you mean by "low quality"?

[opal plank]

@vocal trellis well, we already gave you plenty of feedback it seems, i'd recommend checking what we all said

[crimson vapor]

bro your internet ok?

[earnest phoenix]

Node.js v15 moment

[crimson vapor]

mine was decent

[opal plank]

its clearly good quality dude

[crimson vapor]

get better internet brazilians

smh

[earnest phoenix]

Code Minecraft edition

[slim umbra]

ngl replaceall was like the only good thing added to node 15

[earnest phoenix]

I see no point in String.prototype.replaceAll(), since you can use regex in String.prototype.replace() with the global flag

[opal plank]

i mean, it looks fine to me

you sure its not your internet?

[lyric mountain]

yes

[crimson vapor]

yeah it should look like this, not #development message

[sudden geyser]

It looks correct

[opal plank]

i actually use replace() instead of replaceAll() cuz literally every fucking instance i've tried using it on, hasnt worked

[vivid fulcrum]

i can see everything just fine

[slim umbra]

lmao wut

[lyric mountain]

because you used this

[slim umbra]

r u sure u werent using it wrong

[opal plank]

yeah, i told @crimson vapor , but he says its probably my internet

[lyric mountain]

also, barely anyone can type that word without some specialized keyboard

[earnest phoenix]

The only good thing added in Node.js v15 was private properties and methods in classes

[opal plank]

conditional chaining

[vocal trellis]

wow

[opal plank]

thats best feature node added

ever

period

[vocal trellis]

big hate on my code 😂

[opal plank]

no discussion

[vocal trellis]

first of all

[earnest phoenix]

TC39 lazy decisions moment

[vocal trellis]

i use mongodb

[vivid fulcrum]

uncatched promises crashing the process

[opal plank]

CALLED IT

WHO SAID IT WASNT?

@crimson vapor @slim umbra git rekt

both of ya

[earnest phoenix]

That was on Node.js v14 moment

[opal plank]

ik

but best feature

[vivid fulcrum]

node 14 <= literally says that uncatched promises will result in a process termination in the future

[earnest phoenix]

yes

[vivid fulcrum]

✨ the future is now ✨

[opal plank]

best node 15 feature is crashing on any unhandler rejection

cant wait to see how many devs will quit after that

discord.js updates to node 15 on v13, we gonna have a 50% increase in people here

MY BOT DIED, WHY

[earnest phoenix]

Node.js v15 be like, lets change warn to throw on every exception

But it is nice

[vivid fulcrum]

it's a good change

[opal plank]

indeed

[vocal trellis]

but guys

[opal plank]

well

[vocal trellis]

i didnt got an answer

[opal plank]

yes and no

[regal saddle]

well

[vivid fulcrum]

makes incompetent devs less incompetent

[vocal trellis]

on my probleù

[opal plank]

they'll do this

[vocal trellis]

what is with that

[opal plank]

well, but i guess thats technically handling exceptions

[vivid fulcrum]

your entire snippet you posted is a dumpster fire

[opal plank]

^^

[vocal trellis]

Okay

Challenge for you @vivid fulcrum

Rewrite it

[vivid fulcrum]

pay me

[vocal trellis]

Lmao you are the one having problems with the code

[opal plank]

most of us here would, but we arent allowed to spoonfed

[vivid fulcrum]

??

[vocal trellis]

Rewrite my snippet

[vivid fulcrum]

i could not care less about your code lol gtfo

[vocal trellis]

lol

[opal plank]

almost everything you wrote there we have it here

[lyric mountain]

"What? why can't I have 498017247 syntax and logical errors in my code and don't have it running normally?"
----- any lazy JS bot dev ever

[vivid fulcrum]

i just commented that it's garbage

you clearly don't know what you're doing

[vocal trellis]

okay rewrite the snippet

[vivid fulcrum]

and your question is an xyproblem

[vocal trellis]

good

[vivid fulcrum]

pay me

[vocal trellis]

and maybe ill pay you

[vivid fulcrum]

maybe is not good enough

[vocal trellis]

okay

then not

[vivid fulcrum]

stonks

[earnest phoenix]

Development channel moment?

[opal plank]

always

well, either way @vocal trellis , we arent just calling your code shit, we are calling your code shit and explaining why thats the case. As harsh as it is, its constructive criticism

[lyric mountain]

yes but I don't have enough mana to cast "clairvoyance"

so I can't know the question

[opal plank]

imagine not owning a crystal ball

everyone knows you can use clairvoyance for free with it

with no mana cost

noob

[lyric mountain]

mine broke yesterday damn

[opal plank]

oh i se

[lyric mountain]

rolled 1 on dexterity check

[opal plank]

i know a mage in the favelas of rio that would get you one for a nice price

[vivid fulcrum]

i sold mine to health workers in order to help fight covid :(

[earnest phoenix]

anyone here use the discord.js-collector library?

Oh god, not another bloated npm package

[vivid fulcrum]

why is there a library for everything in node

[opal plank]

cuz js devs

[vivid fulcrum]

can't you people just do something yourselves for once

[opal plank]

^^^^^^^^^^^^

[earnest phoenix]

it makes life easier

[lyric mountain]

that's why maven requires a shitton of steps to publish packages to central

[crimson vapor]

honestly most people just don't have the experience and understanding to do it themselvers

[opal plank]

thats why i recommend people typescript, the majority of ts users have at least 3 functioning braincells since you need to write a lot of stuff yourself, specially interfaces and types

[earnest phoenix]

What happens if it crashes your applications or its not maintained anymore after some things change that depend on it

It has 750 weekly downloads

[vivid fulcrum]

*slaps any on everything*

[opal plank]

[earnest phoenix]

Makes life harder doesn't it

[earnest phoenix]

well discord.js is gonna change anyways

[opal plank]

sssshhh we dont talk about that here

[crimson vapor]

I got bullied for using any

[lyric mountain]

the issue is that JS is too compliant

[crimson vapor]

it was sad

[earnest phoenix]

Because it is always maintained by hundreds of people

[lyric mountain]

it accepts anything

[earnest phoenix]

The package you said isn't

[opal plank]

deserved imo

[crimson vapor]

well yeah, it was you

[craggy pine]

I would like you to roll initiative

[opal plank]

you welcome

[lyric mountain]

so people don't Smart Think™️ when doing js

[past dove]

Is there any way to join a server whis is using my bot ?

[vivid fulcrum]

no

[opal plank]

dont

[crimson vapor]

nope

[lyric mountain]

noooo

[earnest phoenix]

It's a pretty popular package

ToS inb4

[lament rock]

Do people even think when doing JS

[opal plank]

"popular package"

you wanna see popular stuff?

fine

[crimson vapor]

800 a week is not popular

[opal plank]

let me give you a piece of mind my dude

[crimson vapor]

at all

[vivid fulcrum]

just because something is popular doesn't justify it being good

[earnest phoenix]

750 weekly downloads isn't popular

For that

for an "extension" to discord.js

[vivid fulcrum]

it's a bloated package

djs already has a collector built in

[earnest phoenix]

ok

[vocal trellis]

okay i am still learning ofcourse!

[opal plank]

@earnest phoenix https://www.npmjs.com/package/is-undefined the "its good cuz its popular"

[vocal trellis]

i get better every day

[crimson vapor]

no

[vocal trellis]

and learn more every day

[opal plank]

hence why we pointed out your wrong diongs

[crimson vapor]

not this Erwin

can we not

[earnest phoenix]

The package could be deprecated at any moment, if stuff changes and and the package doesn't get updated

What do you do

I update it myself

or rewrite the entire code for my bot

[vivid fulcrum]

the fact that actual huge libraries have stupid packages like is-undefined and is-thirtheen as their deps like what??

[earnest phoenix]

ok

[lament rock]

I want to know what "popular" packages unironically depend on meme packages like that

[earnest phoenix]

If you know how to update it then why not write one yourself instead of using an npm package that implements it?

[lament rock]

proprietary software is poggers

[lyric mountain]

is-thirteen is better

[opal plank]

we pointed out WHY its bad idea to do what you're doing, not blindly calling out "HuH DUH shIT cODE GiT BEttER", if theres anything specific from what we said that you dont understand WHY its not good, please ask

[vocal trellis]

how to get total member count of bot without presence intent

[lyric mountain]

can't live without it

who knows when it's thirteen

[opal plank]

you can get memberCount with the guild payload

though thats not always accurate

[earnest phoenix]

npm registry is filled with shit ton of bloated npm packages

[vocal trellis]

but it is possible

[opal plank]

since it updates every couple hours iirc

[earnest phoenix]

tbh the only reason I thought to use it was because I thought it could could see the reactions made after bot downtime

[opal plank]

correct

[lament rock]

only GUILD_CREATE returns member_count

[opal plank]

<guild>.memberCount

[quartz kindle]

what if someone makes npm2

[opal plank]

i second that

[vocal trellis]

i mean like total

[opal plank]

yes

member COUNT

[lament rock]

Tim. Make npm2

[earnest phoenix]

npm2 i *

[vocal trellis]

would this work

[opal plank]

total amount

[quartz kindle]

memberCunt

[vocal trellis]

would this work without

[earnest phoenix]

ok

[vocal trellis]

intents

[opal plank]

that would work

dont need intents

[vocal trellis]

okay ❤️ thanks

[crimson vapor]

yea but it would be a bit off

[opal plank]

memberCount comes with it

[crimson vapor]

the overlap of members in servers

[lament rock]

You need the GUILDS intent of course

[opal plank]

#development message

[crimson vapor]

shh

[earnest phoenix]

Wait, doesn't <Guild>.memberCount not update without the guild members intents?

[opal plank]

no

[lament rock]

You might be thinking of invite.approximate_member_count, Erwin

[opal plank]

i think you only receieve it once

when you connect via gateway

you get guilds objects

[lament rock]

#development message

[vivid fulcrum]

approximate_member_count is rest only

[opal plank]

after that you would get them only with payloads that include guild

[vivid fulcrum]

member_count or memberCount in djs is gw only

[opal plank]

guild_create/guild_delete, etc

back of my head i dont remember other events that emit a guild object

[lament rock]

Guild.member_count is always accurate since events are replayed to the client if it has GUILD_MEMBER intents

[opal plank]

unavailable too

[earnest phoenix]

Yep as I said