development

[drifting wedge]

ah okay

why though>

[thin echo]

i will try

[drifting wedge]

why is it blocking?

[slender thistle]

See, the catch here is that you delete the guild data in background

Because yes

[drifting wedge]

wdym?

i run another process?

another thread even

but what difference will it make?

it makes sense its blocking

but i dont get why

[slender thistle]

Don't ask me about synchronous shit, I just know it's blocking but not the 'how' 🤣

[drifting wedge]

lmfao

any ideas though?

or just like you know it is?

    @tasks.loop(hours=1)
    async def delete_guild_data(self):
        guild = self.gcollection.find({"in_guild":False})```

so like this?

    @tasks.loop(hours=1)
    async def delete_guild_data(self):
        gcollection.insert_one(self.gcollection.find({"in_guild":False}))```

i am pro coderman

also i want to use find right?

not find one?

cuz i want it to replace ALL

[slender thistle]

Why the insert_one

[drifting wedge]

look shivaco you cant expect me to write good code okay

thats not cool

its like wanting a fish to climb a tree

after the fish had 3 years of tree climbing practice

[thin echo]

didn't work

[dusky sundial]

In what way didn't it work?

[thin echo]

It didn't send the gif, or link

[slender thistle]

Hmm. That looks good. So the general idea is:

@tasks.loop(hours=1)
async def delete_guild_data(self):
    guilds = self.gcollection.find({"in_guild":False})
    for guild in guilds:
        if guild['expires_at'] >= datetime.datetime.utcnow():  # under the circumstances that the `expires_at` is the datetime object of when the data will actually be deleted
            self.gcollection.delete_one(guild)

[thin echo]

Okay so I did it

but the gif just loads

[thin echo]

It worked, the gif just loads

[slender thistle]

wdym just loads

Are you sure your URLs are correct

[thin echo]

Yeah

See it just loads

is there a way to fix this or no

[slender thistle]

What are the URLs you use?

[dusky sundial]

Are they local files, or webpages?

[thin echo]

by webpages do you mean websites?

[dusky sundial]

Mhm

[thin echo]

yeah webpages

[dusky sundial]

Give us an example of a url you use

[thin echo]

https://tenor.com/view/yuri-on-ice-hug-gif-7192427

this is an example

[dusky sundial]

Try rightclicking the gif and "copy image address" instead

[thin echo]

ok

[earnest phoenix]

hi

[thin echo]

ok

Testing it

IT WORKED

tysm

[compact lotus]

how do i get sub bots ?

[slender thistle]

You don't

[balmy root]

hi

[placid meadow]

u guys ever seen a bot chart stats like this before?

[balmy root]

no

nioce

[placid meadow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/795136039538262087/827380592311926794/top10.png?width=1285&height=241

[balmy root]

just saying must be fake

[placid meadow]

oh trust me, this aint fake 😉

hard work and lots of coding

[balmy root]

😛

[verbal fable]

you can do it with canvas

[slender thistle]

If it's called fake, it must be either too good or too bad for its own kind that people think it's impossible

[placid meadow]

i use GDI+ (dotnet core)

@verbal fable

[balmy root]

[placid meadow]

the bot runs of Unix, so i had to come up with self made modules

[balmy root]

wats unix

[placid meadow]

Linux OS

[verbal fable]

but ithink pepole didnt like hard work
pepole like bad bots 😆 and love it

[placid meadow]

lol

ppl love fancy colorful stats 😛

i rekon

[slender thistle]

If it looks fancy

[balmy root]

[epic color]

+status
-are cool

[placid meadow]

what language u guys code in?

[late rover]

fortran

[slender thistle]

Python, sometimes love to play around in Pascal.NET

[placid meadow]

fortran?

damn...thats an oldy

[misty sigil]

js

[late rover]

im just kidding lol

[slender thistle]

😂

[placid meadow]

lol

[misty sigil]

fortran lmao

[late rover]

python and js for me

[placid meadow]

@late rover why not cobolt while ur at it 😛

hehe

[late rover]

lol

[placid meadow]

😛

[slender thistle]

Damn

[balmy root]

holy mf

[placid meadow]

i dont think my bot review will come back as "clone of ..."

[balmy root]

OOOOOOOOOOOOF

[late rover]

nice

[slender thistle]

[balmy root]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-suicide-flip-jump-crash-gif-5140737

[drifting wedge]

how do i delete a document in mongo?

[placid meadow]

monogdb ?

[drifting wedge]

yes

pymongo

[slender thistle]

collection.delete_one

[placid meadow]

shiva in the rescue

[drifting wedge]

k ty

[placid meadow]

i wend with a different db, google's prot-buff

[drifting wedge]

bro shiv made like 99% of my bot kek

[placid meadow]

awesome

[slender thistle]

🤣

[placid meadow]

what langs did u do shiva?

[slender thistle]

I usually use Python, but we went recently over 8086 Assembly in college and I remember Pascal.NET from school. On top of that I can write basic C# stuff

[placid meadow]

pascal , now theres something u dont see every day

[slender thistle]

The superior programming language is HTML.

😛

[placid meadow]

i do dotnet core (vb)

little c# on the side

[slender thistle]

Yoo, neat. Don't see VB around here often enough to assume people even use it

[placid meadow]

i do

[slender thistle]

VBA gang myself

[drifting wedge]

    @tasks.loop(hours=1)
    async def delete_guild_data(self):
        guild = self.gcollection.find({"in_guild":False})
        for i in guild:
            if float(i["delete_timer"]) >= time():
                self.gcollection.delete_one(i)```

thisis wat i have

[verbal fable]

hmm guys i have aproblem with graphQl

[drifting wedge]

it doesnt make sense

[placid meadow]

i get a alot of flak for it , but as u can see. u can do alot with it

[drifting wedge]

and i dont understand it

but theyres like a 50% chance of it workinh

any aparent errors?

[slender thistle]

What does the delete_timer key contain?

[slender thistle]

Indeed 😂

How much time did all that take you?

[drifting wedge]

its a epoch time

[placid meadow]

if u work with async, deleting resource (assuming its a db) u gotta watch for deadlocks @drifting wedge

[drifting wedge]

time bot leaves the guild

• 72 hours

so if bot isnt re added within 72 hours, data gets deleted

@placid meadow i dont need to care abt that stuff

i use cloud db

also wtf is a deadlock?

[placid meadow]

u dont know?

interesting ^^

[slender thistle]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadlock

[placid meadow]

it happens if multiple threads (async) read/write resource at the same time, it creates a run which can result that one of the threads locks up (freezes)

[drifting wedge]

how would a deadlock occur?

[slender thistle]

I'm not familiar with cases like that in Python, especially simple scripts like Exe's

[placid meadow]

if u dont take it into account, undocumented behavior might occour

[placid meadow]

is there such a thing as sync lock or mutex mechanics in ur language ?

[drifting wedge]

how tf am i supposed to know

[slender thistle]

https://www.tutorialspoint.com/synchronizing-threads-in-python#:~:text=The threading module provided with,force threads to run synchronously.

[drifting wedge]

bro shiv is my brain

im just the typer

[placid meadow]

@drifting wedge no need to get nasty 😛

[verbal fable]

ReferenceError: getMutualGuilds is not defined
    at resolve (D:\courses\dashboard\dashboard-backend\graphql\index.js:81:26)
    at processTicksAndRejections (internal/process/task_queues.js:93:5)
    at async Promise.all (index 1)
    at async graphqlMiddleware (D:\courses\dashboard\dashboard-backend\node_modules\express-graphql\index.js:166:18)

[drifting wedge]

wdym nasty?

[verbal fable]

why giving me this error?

[placid meadow]

im sure @slender thistle knows this 😛

[verbal fable]

can some one help?

[drifting wedge]

oh of course

shiv is python expert

[verbal fable]

👀

[placid meadow]

@verbal fable seems ur instance object is not made

declared

[slender thistle]

Nah, I never worked with threading directly. I skipped that part in my learning process 🤣

[drifting wedge]

so it should work?

same

[verbal fable]

but its

[placid meadow]

@slender thistle i hope ur joking 😛

[drifting wedge]

i skipped the entire learning process

im one of those people who made a discord bot to learn python

before knowing what python even is

and to tell you what, it worked!

[slender thistle]

I wish I was. I learned Python by getting into discord.py directly and never had to deal with deadlocks or mutex mechanisms yet?

[drifting wedge]

so i dont know wtf yall on about "learn python"

learning python is for nerds

[slender thistle]

🤣

[drifting wedge]

i learnt what was "await ctx.send("")" before knowing print()

im a pro

[slender thistle]

I should dedicate a week for myself to work with threading in Python, tbh

[placid meadow]

@slender thistle well if u ever wanna touch on it, let me know 😉

multithreading is useful 😛

i know my bot uses it

[slender thistle]

😁 I can be an annoying ass, so you better hope I decide to figure it out on my own instead

[placid meadow]

arent we all 😛

[drifting wedge]

uhh since yall have actual brains

is there a way to setup a webserver

in a cog?

[slim umbra]

imagine using a language where threading isnt as trivial as tokio::task::spawn()

[placid meadow]

whats cog?

[slender thistle]

Sure

[drifting wedge]

still running the bot?

[sage bobcat]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[slim umbra]

non rust nerds

[drifting wedge]

i tried using flask/quart ipc, aiohttp, flask, quart

[slender thistle]

discord.py has classes in its own extension system

[drifting wedge]

ive done everything i could think of

[placid meadow]

i see

[slender thistle]

Those classes are cogs

[sage bobcat]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[drifting wedge]

so what can i do?

[slender thistle]

How have you tried connecting them together?

[drifting wedge]

which time?

because what happens i think is that the webserver never stops

its like the bot

you cant put code under bot.run

if you want it to run while the bot is running

its like one or the other

ive tried making a normal webserver with aiohttp

and it had same issue

ipc works but is annoying

bc if u restart bot or dashboard

you have to restart both

AND only 1 process

so clustering wouldnt work

flask / quart same aiohtttp issue

[placid meadow]

@slender thistle https://pastebin.com/8kXhVWH4

😉

[slender thistle]

Tried taking a look at how I run the webserver in dblpy?

[drifting wedge]

when i try to not plarize

i get told to

noice

[slender thistle]

Eh I mean

[drifting wedge]

im joking lmfao

[slender thistle]

The general practice I follow is initialize the webserver in cog init, then call run_until_complete on a method that sets up the webserver and runs it

[drifting wedge]

@slender thistle https://github.com/shivaco/DBL-python-webhook/blob/master/listener.py isnt even a cog

[slender thistle]

Nah not that

https://github.com/top-gg/python-sdk/blob/master/topgg/webhook.py this thing

run method

[drifting wedge]

i do not understand this witchcraft

[slender thistle]

Oh, really? Just under 100 lines such a feature? You must be joking 🤣

Give me a second, I'll try to put up a small script

[drifting wedge]

ty

[placid meadow]

i was trying to make a activity monitor , that charts whos active during what hours, days, months

but the db/io setup is such a pain in the ass

had some tests, works but..pff maintenance wise a nightmare

[slender thistle]

🤣

[placid meadow]

the google's serializer , protof-buf proofs to be useful, it has almost 200 users in less then 175kb

i use it as db method

self contained

[slender thistle]

Damn

[placid meadow]

it generates graphs under the 300~ms thats acceptable

i wish i could test it in a mega discord server, see how it perfoms

[slender thistle]

You'll have plenty of time to get famous, don't worry

[placid meadow]

hope so 😉

[drifting wedge]

@slender thistle u already doing the script?

[placid meadow]

gimme credits tho 😛

[drifting wedge]

im tierd and gonna sleep

[placid meadow]

thats fair

[drifting wedge]

so have a good night

[placid meadow]

gn

[slender thistle]

Give my poor laptop some time to open PyCharm

[drifting wedge]

gn barret

nah no worries

[slender thistle]

I'll DM you the general idea tomorrow, goodnight

[placid meadow]

no u where going?

im confused

[drifting wedge]

sure thanks

gn

[placid meadow]

lol

[slender thistle]

Nah mate you did a great job

That's quite a unique feature out of hundreds/thousands of bots

[placid meadow]

i dunnow, is it ?

O_o

[slender thistle]

Unique enough, at the very least

Haven't seen many bots do stuff like you did though

well, "many"

Can't recall a single one, more like

[placid meadow]

well if you drop in my hang out, who knows what i might share 😉

[slender thistle]

I have quite plenty of things to worry about already so I'll leave you to it with the surprises 😛

[placid meadow]

no doubt

was an open invitation

[earnest phoenix]

Help

[placid meadow]

ask away

[earnest phoenix]

How to add image

[placid meadow]

in embed ?

or what ?

[earnest phoenix]

In top.gg

[placid meadow]

oh i dunnow

[earnest phoenix]

:|

Ok

[placid meadow]

perhaps #support is there for ya

[earnest phoenix]

someone plays league of legends

does api.getVotes() show users who voted for that api? did not quite understand

[placid meadow]

there is no docs on it?

[earnest phoenix]

I didn't understand that question very well

[placid meadow]

im sure the API has some sort of documented usage

[earnest phoenix]

never mind i was kind of dumb here

I understand now

sorry about that

[placid meadow]

dont sweat it:P

[earnest phoenix]

have a good night :p

[placid meadow]

u too

[earnest phoenix]

.addField("Server owner" , `${guild.owner.user.username}`)
                                                ^
TypeError: Cannot read property 'user' of null

[hushed plank]

just write only guild.owner

[old cliff]

the guild owner must not be in cache

[hushed plank]

805788996579885097
report this bot please -_-

[slender bear]

What bot

[hushed plank]

DM advertising

[slender bear]

Oh

I get those a lot

[hushed plank]

Yup, it's still verified -_-

[slender bear]

I’m waiting for mine to get verified

That gives me hope

[hushed plank]

Hope 😄

it'll be verified

[slender bear]

I mean if that bot can get verified my bot that just says quotes definitely will

[hushed plank]

sorry didn't get it

[earnest phoenix]

It's returning null

Value

[restive lily]

discord.py rewrite Question: Is it possible for a command to send feedback of every server the bot is in with the server name, how many members, and who owns it? (I want this for my personal bot that has no public access, I just have no clue which servers I have put it in)
Please ping or ping reply if you could answer this.

[slender thistle]

Refer to <Client>.guilds, a list consisting of Guild objects

Make sure you set the intents for guilds in your client though

[hushed plank]

${guild.owner}

use pastbin

[slender bear]

Hmm

[hushed plank]

what's the command 🤯

[earnest phoenix]

@hushed plank same

Using but returning null

[hushed plank]

:hmm:

pastebin!

[sacred aurora]

@earnest phoenix can you read this

u have to fetch it since the owner is not in the cache

[placid meadow]

@slender thistle found the culprit 😛 of that exception

[slender thistle]

Are you sure you are setting the guilds intent for your client @earnest phoenix

[slender thistle]

Spill the beans 👀

[placid meadow]

its a out of bound error, the gdi lib doesnt like when you draw something out of the bitmap region , in windows it just silently draws it anyway, but on the unix lib, that wont fly

[keen thicket]

how do i get the bot dev role?

[placid meadow]

[Processor][4/2/2021 7:54:28 AM] -> Task Command from 'Barret', Queue 1
--------------[OUT OF BOUNDS]---------------------
BOX REF      : 0 0 400 300
COORDS REF   : X1 319.94922 Y1 146.5098 X2 331.94415 Y2 146.16077
BOX REF      : Right 65 Left 335
--------------------------------------------------
[Command][4/2/2021 7:54:28 AM] <- Task Command finished in 00:00:00.1392074

[frigid mountain]

const Discord = require('discord.js')

module.exports = {
    name: 'grole',
    run: async (message, args)  => { 
if (!message.member.permissions.has("MANAGE_ROLES")) return message.reply("You don't have the manage_roles perms")
    const role = message.mentions.roles.first() 
    const member = message.mentions.members.first()
    member.roles.add(role).catch(error)
    
    const embed1 = new Discord.MessageEmbed()
    .setTitle("Give role+")
    .setDescription("The role" + message.mentions.roles.first() + "has been given to" `${user.username}`)
    .addField("Moderator Command", "please if you not a moderator pls don't try to use this command♡", true)
    .setColor("#FF005B")
    .setTimestamp()
    .setFooter("role has been given")
    
      message.channel.send(embed1)
    }
}

Can some help me in the embed .addField section cause it seems that is does not work!

[placid meadow]

u dont use await?

[slender thistle]

Own an approved bot on top.gg

[placid meadow]

anyway, ive add a Try block on that part, the code will not draw that portion (almost not see it anyway) but will always show the stats

its a hack but works

[slender thistle]

Oh dear

[frigid mountain]

?

[placid meadow]

those methods are async 😛

Nathi

does js have await @slender thistle ?

i dunnow actually

[frigid mountain]

Should I change it to run: async (message, args) => {

[slender thistle]

Don't ask me, I have zero clue about how JS works

[placid meadow]

well the whole discord API is pretty much await's

but thats not ur issue

lol

[slender thistle]

I'd rather leave this to someone who is proficient in JS

[dusk nebula]

What?

[frigid mountain]

The embed does not show

[dusk nebula]

You didn't define user

[slender thistle]

user is not defined

[vivid fulcrum]

stop gluing together copypasted code

[dusk nebula]

at .setDescription()

That's why

[frigid mountain]

Yes how do I fix that?

[vivid fulcrum]

wrong

ol

lol

don't spoonfeed

and especially don't spoonfeed wrong code

[dusk nebula]

Oofies

I am on phone

I'll just del it ._.

[dusk nebula]

define user

const user = //define user

[keen thicket]

how are you a bot dev

[vivid fulcrum]

js isn't the only language in the world

[keen thicket]

im aware

[dusk nebula]

I don't think it was wrong

[vivid fulcrum]

yes it was

[dusk nebula]

I mean, he didn't define user

[vivid fulcrum]

member objects have no username property

🙄

[dusk nebula]

that's why

${}

member.user.username

[vivid fulcrum]

dude

[dusk nebula]

user has a username property

[vivid fulcrum]

you were calling username on a member

not on a user

do you have dementia

[slender thistle]

I own an approved bot on top.gg

[keen thicket]

oh ok

[dusk nebula]

yes it does

[restive furnace]

promises

[placid meadow]

i see

multi threading, awaiters , always a bit confusing

[restive furnace]

almost every language today haves async/await syntax (known as corountines also)

[dusk nebula]

Just define user

[opal plank]

why is this returning a 403 even though im in the server?

[placid meadow]

403 is usually a forbidden error , is it not ?

or was that 401 ?

[opal plank]

missing access, but im 100% there

[dusk nebula]

It is

[placid meadow]

id say that boils down to permission prolly, Erwin

[opal plank]

it shouldnt need perms to fetch channels

nor the guild

[frigid mountain]

const user = message.guild.users.cache.find(user => user.username === args[0]); // Keep in mind, 'user' is just a variable I've defined. It could also be 'monke => monke.username' if you wish.

[placid meadow]

is it case sensitive ?

also most discords api's have a limited cache

might want to increase the backlog

[cinder patio]

That comments tells me that you copied this code

[placid meadow]

thats not relative ...is it ?

[restive furnace]

unless he is a random person who saw that question and actually commented that code, who knows

[placid meadow]

😛

[cinder patio]

He's the one with the question

[dusk nebula]

Ok..

[frigid mountain]

Idk anything?

[dusk nebula]

why do you have professional coder in js in ur status if you dk how to define a variable

[frigid mountain]

Lol cause I was boreddddde

[placid meadow]

comn guys, dont flame on ppl who ask for help

its pointless

[dusk nebula]

const user = message.mentions.users.first()
or
const user = message.mentions.users.first() || message.guild.members.cache.get(args[0]).user

[dusk nebula]

No no am not saying anything lol

[dusk nebula]

Just use either of those

for ur user variable

[frigid mountain]

I thought I was about to get rosted lol

[dusk nebula]

variable/constant

however you declare it

[placid meadow]

funny that js allows for dynamic constants...kinda defeats its purpose 😛

[cinder patio]

Flaming actually helps the person more than just spoonfeeding them, because they obviously don't know the language they're working with, it's better to go learn the basics

[dusky sundial]

There's a difference between asking a question and refusing to learn :)

[cinder patio]

in this case at least

[placid meadow]

well whatever he knows the language or not, if u help him he might learn something from you, share experience and knowledge is a virtue

[dusk nebula]

But learning the basics is of much more importance.. am I right?

[dusky sundial]

A lot of people will expect you to know the basics of programming before getting into making a bot, but some people learn by doing, so it's really up to them in the end

[dusk nebula]

I don't necessarily roast anyone but when I give them code I try to explain how it works so they can understand it better

[placid meadow]

not everyone knows the best route for coding, some are not that fast or whatever the case might be.

[dusk nebula]

Anyways

[placid meadow]

they see something they really want, might be steep jump most cases, but thats how it is, sometimes u just gotta jump into it. but i agree knowing ur basics does help90% of the time

[cinder patio]

The difference is that they come here with an error that can be resolved with the base knowledge of the language... x is not defined

[placid meadow]

comes down to understand what their reading

i guess

and one only see's what he knows

so if he doesnt, he cant

[frigid mountain]

I changed it to

.setDescription(`The role ${role} has been given to ${member}`)

And it worked!

[dusk nebula]

@frigid mountain
So message.mentions.users.first() checks for the first person who is pinged in the msg
And message.guild.members.cache.get(args[0]).user gets a user in the second argument in the message

ie. if you use ID instead of pinging

[dusk nebula]

Aight nice

[frigid mountain]

Thx for the help

[placid meadow]

nathi

[frigid mountain]

Yes?

[dusk nebula]

True but whatever xD

[placid meadow]

the message 'please if you not a...' is sort of over saturated

is it not ?

the command on itself wont fire unless they are?

or is that just cosmetic nicefy 😛

[coral stirrup]

otherwise there would be a "small" security issue :D

[placid meadow]

lol

[frigid mountain]

Lol

[placid meadow]

i see often beginners try to use the js Eval() in their bots, i always tell them, its a bad idea

now that is a sizable security risk

[opal plank]

evals are the perfect way to teach them they should be using vm's to host their bots

or to secure their shit properly

[dusky sundial]

Bots with open eval commands won't be approved anyways

[opal plank]

watch me

[placid meadow]

u could inject some malicious code there, escalate the account, oof... the trouble that generates

[dusky sundial]

[placid meadow]

good rule

all they want is some sort of calulcator of sorts

and its rly easy to write ur own lexical analyzer

tokenize the expression, built ur abstract tree, evaluate in full control

[opal plank]

imma put it inside 2 vm and a sandbox

good luck escaping that

[placid meadow]

vm's can be broken 😛

[opal plank]

2 vms and a sandbox

[placid meadow]

altho hard, it is possible

[opal plank]

good luck

[placid meadow]

u cant have 2 vms like that 😛 physically not possible

[opal plank]

watch me

[placid meadow]

ur cpu would need VM flags in depth ? that be a first

virtualization*

[cinder patio]

Or you can just analyze the javascript for potential security issues... detecting whether require, eval, .prototype is used, while loops, etc.

[opal plank]

imagine not knowing what nested virtualization is

[placid meadow]

nested virt? rly?

i have yet to see that

[opal plank]

look up nested virtualization

[placid meadow]

@cinder patio i wrote my own expression evaluator its rly not that hard

[opal plank]

its handy sometimes when you need to emulate different hardware specs

say, i like linux

im using a vm there

[cinder patio]

I know

[placid meadow]

❤️ erwin , debian all the way

[opal plank]

now, i want to bypass some tool that uses free trial and hardware locks it

so i have to each month make another hardware vm

[placid meadow]

my bot runs on linux too, best platform

[opal plank]

thats a good example of why you'd have 2 vms inside one another

one vm simulating a hardware so you can bypass check

and the second is your main os that you use

in my case, linux

and the main os is windows, cuz compatibility

actual main, not vm

[placid meadow]

stable af 😉

[opal plank]

windows(main work) => linux vm (vm for work/study) => hardware vm(a vm simply with random hardware specs so i can bypass trials)

[neat heron]

Looks good 🙂

[opal plank]

bask in its glory

[placid meadow]

oh snap, that is sexy dude

[opal plank]

htop pog

[placid meadow]

i run mine on a HPE server, its own backup PSU and ddos/syn firewall with Coreo Smartwall,

had to leas an ipv4 but thats fine

not that expensive

[wind hill]

Need
Create Tipbot on Discord
Who can help me
I can the fee with TRX

[neat heron]

what are they trying to do on my vps 😄

[placid meadow]

@opal plank those load avg are not so ideal tho 😛

0.50 would a threshold for me

[opal plank]

well this is a full on prod server

[placid meadow]

ah ok

[opal plank]

its not only running my bot

[placid meadow]

how much clients does that box run?

[opal plank]

there are a couple hundread process there running

[wind hill]

Need
Create Tipbot on Discord
Who can help me
I can the fee with TRX

[opal plank]

its only for us

@wind hill not the place

[placid meadow]

alright

[opal plank]

go somewhere else

one sec

[cinder patio]

Go to fiverr or upwork

[opal plank]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725234999770742825/746960319150293212/unknown.png

@placid meadow ^^

[placid meadow]

dear god 😮

i want that

[opal plank]

so

funfact

[neat heron]

@opal plank how is your bot called?

[opal plank]

click me

oh shit

[placid meadow]

@opal plank

[opal plank]

it went down

ffs

[placid meadow]

my lil server ^^

[opal plank]

1 sec

[earnest phoenix]

h

h

h

h

h

[opal plank]

oho

selfbots?

[earnest phoenix]

h

h

h

[opal plank]

a

[placid meadow]

andy ??

[opal plank]

sounds like selbots

[earnest phoenix]

h

h

[opal plank]

the more we talk

the more it replies

[earnest phoenix]

h

[opal plank]

keke

[earnest phoenix]

h

[opal plank]

amazing

[wind hill]

Link plaese

[placid meadow]

thats annoying ...

-.-

[opal plank]

@ripe prairie free ban ^^

[slender thistle]

@ripe prairie stinky

[cinder patio]

Literally google search it

first link

[opal plank]

ah

right

[earnest phoenix]

h

[opal plank]

as i was saying barret

[earnest phoenix]

h

h

[opal plank]

@placid meadow did it live too

zorotic and some people here saw me completely wreck twitch on a global scale

[neat heron]

Fast response

[placid meadow]

damn

[ripe prairie]

-m @earnest phoenix

[gilded plank]

🤐 Muted !ANDY!#0001 (@ebon zenith)

[opal plank]

i was re-routing 95%+ of their global traffic

[placid meadow]

i had an attack month ago on my server

[ripe prairie]

sorry im playing league right now

xD

[placid meadow]

was brutal -.-

[opal plank]

imagine not banning selfbots

[ripe prairie]

imagine telling me what to do?

[opal plank]

twas an ez ban too

wew

[ripe prairie]

i dont say that to be a dick

i say that because we have procedure

[opal plank]

im aware

but i was just playing around

[frigid mountain]

How do I make a user-info command like these cause I want to check which roles do people have

[neat heron]

What is better usage PreSql or MySql

[opal plank]

postgres

[placid meadow]

mongo ?

[neat heron]

using mongodb rn

[fathom meteor]

{

      // Check for attachment image
      

      let image = '';
      const attachment = (message.attachments).array()[0];
      if (attachment && attachment.url) {
        const extension = attachment.url.split('.').pop();
        if (/(jpg|jpeg|png|gif)/gi.test(extension)) image = attachment.url;
      }```


err; 
`` UnhandledPromiseRejectionWarning: TypeError: Cannot read property 'attachments' of undefined``
help?

[placid meadow]

i believe u need to pass the file stream to it

dunnow if it helps ya,

this is how i load up an image into an embed

      Public Shared Async Sub Show(processor As Processor, sm As SocketMessage, args() As String)
            Dim attachment As FileInfo
            Dim eb As New EmbedBuilder With {.Title = "Clock"}
            eb.WithFooter(TimeZoneInfo.Local.StandardName)
            attachment = New FileInfo(Clock.Draw(200, 200))
            eb.ImageUrl = String.Format("attachment://{0}", attachment.Name)
            Using fs As FileStream = File.Open(attachment.FullName, FileMode.Open)
                Await sm.Channel.SendFileAsync(fs, attachment.Name, "", False, eb.Build)
            End Using
        End Sub

[cinder patio]

Is that VB?

[placid meadow]

yeah

[cinder patio]

why are you torturing yourself

[earnest phoenix]

How can we make bot to Play in stage channels 🙄

[placid meadow]

i love vb, its my choice of lang

i can do wonderful things with it

[neat heron]

quite didnt figured that out

[placid meadow]

well u tell the embed attachment the filename, right

and then u pass the stream in the sendFileasync

anyway im off for a bit

take care peeps 😉

[neat heron]

Have a good day 🙂

[vagrant tundra]

Hi

[frigid mountain]

const Discord = require('discord.js')

module.exports = {
    name: 'userinfo',
    run: async (message, args) => { 
    const embed = new Discord.MessageEmbed()
    
    .setTitle("User-info command")
    .setDescription(`Information about ${member}`)
    .setColor("#FF005B")
    .addField("Roles", user.roles.cache.map(role => role.toString()).join(" ,"), true)
    .setTimestamp()
    .setFooter("user info")
    
        message.channel.send(embed)
    }
}

How do I define member do I

const member = `${member}`

Or what?

[cinder patio]

You should really read up on core programming concepts

Does

const member = `${member}`

make any sense to you?

Okay but still

[frigid mountain]

Been waiting for help for over 30 minutes lol

[ancient gulch]

Hello, so, im trying to do a backup system on Discord, with NodeJS, and my problem is, when i save the collection with all roles, when i modify a role on the server it also change the collection, that's weird. There is my code.

// My index

const { Collection, Client } = require('discord.js');
const client = new Client();

client.backup = new Collection();




// My command to set the collection

client.backup.set(message.guild.id, Array.from(message.guild.roles.cache.values()));




// My command to get the collection

const backup = client.backup.get(message.guild.id)

console.log(backup)

Okay so everything work fine, my command return the collection, but.. When i modify a role and i'm making again the command "to get" the collection and not to "set" it update the collection, and i don't know why.

Everytime i make

client.backup.get(message.guild.id)

The collection update if i have modified something on the server, and i don't want that.

[rocky dagger]

i heard that you could use message.author.dmChannel.awaitMessages to await messages in dms but i get an error saying TypeError: Cannot read property 'awaitMessages' of null

is there another way to do it?

[ancient gulch]

https://discord.js.org/#/docs/main/stable/class/User

You can use the message event to do it, why do you want to await messages in dm? @rocky dagger

[rocky dagger]

i am continuing a command in dms so it doesnt fill the public chat

[ancient gulch]

You can use that to get dm's message, there is no way to await messages in dm

if(!message.guild) {
console.log(message.content)
}

[rocky dagger]

ohh ok, ill try that

[ancient gulch]

But if you really want to await a message, refer to this https://discordjs.guide/popular-topics/collectors.html#basic-message-collector

[cinder patio]

I'm pretty sure you can await messages in DM

you have to fetch the DM channel beforehand though

[rocky dagger]

do you know how to do that?

[lunar patio]

how do i make code like 'if cmd send then bot replies after 1 min'

[naive sequoia]

What language are u using?

[lunar patio]

.js

[cinder patio]

https://discord.js.org/#/docs/main/stable/class/User?scrollTo=createDM

[naive sequoia]

oh oof

Then idk.

[lunar patio]

@naive sequoia about .py

?

[naive sequoia]

I'm using Discord.py

[rocky dagger]

cant you just use sleep()

[naive sequoia]

It will just stop your bot.

await asyncio.sleep()```

This will stop command execution for time you type.

If you use time.sleep() it will stop your bot at all for some time.

Idk how discord.js works so...

[frigid mountain]

const Discord = require('discord.js')

module.exports = {
    name: 'userinfo',
    run: async (message, args) => { 
    const user = message.mentions.members.first()
    const embed = new Discord.MessageEmbed()
    
    .setTitle("User-info command")
    .setDescription("Information about ${member}`")
    .setColor("#FF005B")
    .addField("Username", `${user.username}`, true)
    .addField("Roles", user.roles.cache.map(role => role.toString()).join(" ,"), true)
    .setTimestamp()
    .setFooter("user info")
    
        message.channel.send(embed)
    }
}

Does not show the Username

[marble juniper]

you can't lol

even sending a normal api request to create a stage channel gives an error

so not yet

[lusty quest]

you have a string inside a string. if you want to pass a value into a string use ` for defining a string and not "

`my string ${value}`

[cinder patio]

Also you haven't defined member

[lusty quest]

its possible saw a screenshot of groovy playing music in one

[silver lintel]

how do i fix this?

[cinder patio]

It's in the error mesxsage

[summer torrent]

just read the error

[earnest phoenix]

he did how to fix it

not what is it

[silver lintel]

I've tried both npm rebus and npm install tho

[cinder patio]

Delete your npm modules folder and do npm i again

[opal plank]

Absolutely bullshit, i coded my bot to do that

[marble juniper]

lol

[opal plank]

You can if u still need help

[marble juniper]

I thought you couldn't

smh

[opal plank]

double check before then

while you can do it, its not recommened to play with stage channels yet, things are going to change a LOT

its still WIP

but to create a channel, its pretty simple

so simple, in fact, that you just need to set the type of channel to 13

thats literally it

[frigid mountain]

const Discord = require('discord.js')

module.exports = {
    name: 'userinfo',
    run: async (message, args) => { 
    const user = message.mentions.members.first()
    const embed = new Discord.MessageEmbed()
    
    .setTitle("User-info command")
    .setDescription("Information ")
    .setColor("#FF005B")
    .addField("Username", user.username, true)
    .addField("Roles", user.roles.cache.map(role => role.toString()).join(" ,"), true)
    .setTimestamp()
    .setFooter("user info")
    
        message.channel.send(embed)
    }
}

Why does it not show the username

[cinder patio]

members don't have usernames

users do

[marble juniper]

there is a difference between member and user objects

smh

member objects have data related to the server

and user objects have data related to the account itself

and not the server

[frigid mountain]

So what should I do?

[marble juniper]

do user.user.username

lol

[frigid mountain]

Thx

[grave kestrel]

how to get token top.gg

[opal plank]

edit your bot, and go to the webhook section

[grave kestrel]

ty

[earnest phoenix]

client is not defined

[tulip ledge]

Then define client lol

[marble juniper]

show ur code

[solemn quartz]

Hello, i'm creating the help command, i'm trying to make it so that if the user allows DMs from the server, it sends the DM, if it doesn't, send it in the channel

if (message.content.toLowerCase() == prefix + "help") {
let help = new Discord.MessageEmbed()
.setColor(colore)
.setTitle('Help')
.setDescription('For a list of basic moderation commands, \n use the `?help moderation` command. \n \n For a list of automod releated commands, \n use the `?help automod` command. \n \n To view more information about a single command,\n  use the `?help <command name>` command.')
try {
  message.author.send(help)
} catch (err) {
  help.setFooter('I could not DM you this message, so i sent it here.')
  message.channel.send(help)
}
}

This is the error
UnhandledPromiseRejectionWarning: DiscordAPIError: Cannot send messages to this user

[frigid mountain]

How do I make it so that in the account created section it also shows the time the account was created

user.user.createdAt.toLocaleDateString("en-us")

[solemn quartz]

can someone help me?

[umbral zealot]

Promise errors must be caught using .catch() unless you're using async/await. try/catch doesn't work on promises you don't await.

https://js.evie.dev/promises#catching-errors

[solemn quartz]

Oh thank you

i just needed to add await in there

ty

[frigid mountain]

Pls help :( ?

[umbral zealot]

You can use a date formatting module like dayjs or date-fns to format dates however you want

[solemn quartz]

ah yes, professional javascript coder, my favourite

[frigid mountain]

Lol

This person has problems with me just because I did not let him become a developer for my bot

[solemn quartz]

nope

just saying that you cant call yourself a professional javascript coder

[frigid mountain]

Yes I have all the messages screen shorted

[solemn quartz]

before of that you had "professional grapichs designer"

like wtf

[frigid mountain]

Still am

Just like changing my status once in a while

Just because I rejected your request doesn't mean you have to fight with me so for the sake of God keep quiet

[earnest phoenix]

hii

[umbral zealot]

That's rude and condescending. There was no need to point that out.

[pale vessel]

like user.createdAt.toString()?

Fri Apr 02 2021 11:15:32 GMT+0000 (Coordinated Universal Time)

OR toISOString()
2021-04-02T11:16:34.135Z

[frigid mountain]

I want it to show the time Like this

[umbral zealot]

Ah then you definitely need to use dayjs or date-fns

Especially for the "x time ago" feature

[pale vessel]

or use toISOString()

[pale vessel]

oh

[frigid mountain]

So I should replace that

user.user.createdAt.toLocaleDateString("en-us")

With these

user.user.createdAt.toISOString()

[pale vessel]

remove "en-us"

[frigid mountain]

Like that

[pale vessel]

Yeah

[earnest phoenix]

can u help me

[pale vessel]

But for #development message you'd need external libraries

[earnest phoenix]

someone pl

[earnest phoenix]

Yes you can help it's welcome

[frigid mountain]

Thank you kind woman :)

[opal plank]

you need to request to become a speaker after you join the channel

you need 2 requests

1 topic

2 request to speak

[earnest phoenix]

Any guide

For DJ's

please tell me which 1 i need to host 24/7

❓

i wanna run my bot 24/7

[umbral zealot]

I don't think any of those options are correct

you need a nodejs vps

[earnest phoenix]

can u send a link

?

[umbral zealot]

IBM cloud computing is more enterprise level things

there are resources in the pins, information and examples

[winged linden]

Just buy a linux vps u can host it on it

[frigid mountain]

If I want to send a message to the mentioned channel do I use

const channel = message.mentions.channels.first() 

[umbral zealot]

yes.

[frigid mountain]

I finally figured something out on my first try yeay

[umbral zealot]

Yes you did!

[frigid mountain]

Help it does not want to work

const Discord = require('discord.js')

module.exports = {
    name: 'mod updates'
    run: async (message, args) => {
    const sayMessage = args.join(" ")
    const channel = message.mentions.channels.first() 
    const embed = new Discord.Message.Embed()
  
    .setTitle("Mod updates")
    .setDescription("These are very important messages for moderators")
    .setColor("#FF005B")
    .addField("Mod updates", `${sayMessage}`, true)
        
          message.channel.send(embed)  
     }
}

[vivid fulcrum]

what does not want to work

[umbral zealot]

yeah I Got the same question

and why are you trying to send to messsage.channel

instead of channel

[earnest phoenix]

Maybe its because of the name since if they're splitting their args by spaces, it would usually be "mod"

[umbral zealot]

Discord.Message.Embed

[opal plank]

anyone good with css?

need a bit of help

[umbral zealot]

You know how this works, Erwin. ask the question first 😛

[opal plank]

kek its quite an annoying one

but here we go

using ONLY css, trying to modify a subreddit widget

but apparently i cant modify its html

however

[frigid mountain]

M

[opal plank]

a[href=""] i did see you can do stuff like this

with css

i was wondering if you can actually modify html elements with css or add atributes/elements

https://www.reddit.com/r/INDYCAR/

[pale vessel]

but isn't it an iframe

[frigid mountain]

I changed it and it's still not working I also changed the name

[opal plank]

check that for example

its making this picture clickable

in html its quite simple

[umbral zealot]

show current code

[opal plank]

<img> and <href>

2 lines

but apparently we cant figure out a way to get it to work

[umbral zealot]

I don't even know if you can make an image clickable as a link just in CSS

[frigid mountain]

const Discord = require('discord.js')

module.exports = {
    name: 'updates'
    run: async (message, args) => {
    const sayMessage = args.join(" ")
    const channel = message.mentions.channels.first() 
    const embed = new Discord.Message.Embed()
  
    .setTitle("Mod updates")
    .setDescription("These are very important messages for moderators")
    .setColor("#FF005B")
    .addField("Mod updates", `${sayMessage}`, true)
        
          channel.send(embed)  
     }
}

[umbral zealot]

new Discord.Message.Embed()

where did you get the idea this was valid

[opal plank]

im not sure either, but we are trying to follow some of the guide, but theya re old and apprently also deprecated

or we doing something wrong

but its quite hard to fuck up something that bad following 3 different guides xD

[umbral zealot]

I'm... like pretty confident what you want to do isn't possible

[opal plank]

well

they did it

how, thats the question

[umbral zealot]

You can't insert HTML using pure CSS without JavaScript

[frigid mountain]

I changed it

const embed = new Discord.MessageEmbed()

[umbral zealot]

Ok great! Now what? Doies it work?

[opal plank]

yeah thats what i assume too, thats why im in a bind

[frigid mountain]

Code still now working

[opal plank]

there are quite a few subreddits that use it https://www.reddit.com/r/INDYCAR/

[umbral zealot]

still not working you mean?

if so, describe the problem

[umbral zealot]

ok and what am I looking for here

[opal plank]

check some of the side widgets

clickable images

[frigid mountain]

When I go to my terminal to start the code it does not even work :(

[umbral zealot]

does it error out?

[opal plank]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/272764566411149314/827514942164697088/unknown.png

[pale vessel]

they use a tags

[umbral zealot]

ironically that image is not clickable for me

[pale vessel]

this is unclickable

[opal plank]

well yeah, but how the heck do i add that

its clickable

[pale vessel]

it's not

[frigid mountain]

No error

[umbral zealot]

Then that code is not running at all.

[umbral zealot]

It isn't in MS Edge latest.

[opal plank]

well, the bottom one is

[umbral zealot]

right that's a different image

[frigid mountain]

Yea

[umbral zealot]

I do'nt see that image

[opal plank]

its ads

my bad

let me get an actual example

1 sec

[umbral zealot]

The only image I see that's clickable is this one

[opal plank]

what we are trying to accomplish is get a discord badge with a href

we know its possible

[umbral zealot]

doesn't sidebar things support markdown?

[opal plank]

i think so

monster might be able to do it

[umbral zealot]

so... use a markdown link? lol

[opal plank]

but i dont think you can do it with images

[umbral zealot]

Or, https://www.reddit.com/r/modhelp/comments/18456y/how_to_add_image_in_sidebar/

[pale vessel]

you can

[opal plank]

literally every single reddit post you see about this we tried

[umbral zealot]

of course you can add a link to images in markdown

[opal plank]

its 3 yo+

doesnt seem to work anymore

[umbral zealot]

It would be super useful if reddit actually had any fucking docs tbh

[opal plank]

this ^^

[umbral zealot]

why not just ask on https://www.reddit.com/r/modhelp/ ?

Because tbh this is a reddit question not a CSS one

[opal plank]

already did, taking a while to reply

[umbral zealot]

they're the best people to help though, really

[opal plank]

the thread owner that im helpijng is quite big, they already asked around

[earnest phoenix]

where can i see my top.gg token

[umbral zealot]

in your bot's edit page

[earnest phoenix]

i dont see it

[umbral zealot]

"Webhooks" section

[earnest phoenix]

there's no webhooks

oh wait

do i use the old design?

nvm

[umbral zealot]

if you do'nt see that... uhm....

well that's a bug.

[earnest phoenix]

i have no webhooks

[umbral zealot]

try to manually replace /edit with /webhooks ?

[earnest phoenix]

works

ok ty

also, i tapped on "Test" and there's nothing sending

on the webhook

oh nvm

not approved

when i try to save it, i get this

ill do it after i get approved .-.

thanks Hindsight for help

[umbral zealot]

[earnest phoenix]

Why do i get this when i try to use the Api constructor

[umbral zealot]

because you can`t use the top.gg api without an approved bot.

[earnest phoenix]

oh

everything is based on approved

ok

[umbral zealot]

yep

[earnest phoenix]

ill wait a month or so

[umbral zealot]

1-2 weeks.

[earnest phoenix]

it's the same

[umbral zealot]

It's less than half, so no, not the same.

[earnest phoenix]

ok so

[stark abyss]

str.replace(/ abcd..z/g, "_");
how do I replace any letters with something in js

[misty sigil]

/a-z/g should work

[pale vessel]

/[a-zA-Z]/g

or a-z and gi

[misty sigil]

thanks flaz

[stark abyss]

ah okay

[opal plank]

i figured it out

im smort

i did with css

[earnest phoenix]

Hello, in Linux, was it’s the command for view internet speed please?

[vivid fulcrum]

there's no built in shell command for this

find some script or something on google

[summer torrent]

https://speedtest.net/apps/cli

[sacred juniper]

How can ı use rich presence

[lament rock]

If you're talking about in a bot, you can't. For users, look into RPC

[thin echo]

How do I mention the user that used the command, right now it works, but it mentions the users id

Python

[solemn latch]

Put the id in <@id>

[vivid fulcrum]

just a heads up, rpc is deprecated, should use game sdk instead

[lament rock]

oh. When was it deprecated

[vivid fulcrum]

since 2019-ish

[lunar patio]

need help guys

[lament rock]

bruh

I've been way out of the loop

[frigid mountain]

const Discord = require('discord.js')

module.exports = {
    name: 'userinfo',
    run: async (message, args) => { 
    const user = message.mentions.members.first()
    const embed = new Discord.MessageEmbed()
    
    .setTitle("User-info command")
    .setDescription("Information ")
    .setAuthor(`${user.username} $user.displayAvatarURL({dynamic: true})`)
    .setColor("#FF005B")
    .addField("Username:", user.user.username, true)
    .addField("Discriminator:", user.user.discriminator, true)
    .addField("Status:", user.user.presence.status, true)
    .addField("Roles:", user.roles.cache.map(role => role.toString()).join(" ,"), true)
    .addField("Account Created On:", user.user.createdAt.toLocaleDateString("en-us"), true)
    .addField("Joined On:", user.joinedAt.toLocaleDateString("en-us"), true)
    .setTimestamp()
    .setFooter("user info")
    
        message.channel.send(embed)
    }
}

In the .setAuthor section it was suppose to show the users avatar in the top left corner of the embed

[placid vault]

Could someone please explain why, according to this channel's pins, the free trials for GCP and AWS are considered bad?

[lament rock]

Low specifications

[placid meadow]

sup ppls 😉

[umbral zealot]

sup, can we help you?

[earnest phoenix]

anyone know a good way to make a leveling system without ids?

[umbral zealot]

What do you mean by "without IDs"

[placid meadow]

nah no help 😉 im just hanging out

[umbral zealot]

ok well you can go hang out in #general if you just want to chat bruh

[earnest phoenix]

in many tutorials and examples online they use specific user and server ids im trying to find a good way to code a leveling system for all users and servers

[umbral zealot]

don't use the server ID then

use only the user ID

ezpz

[earnest phoenix]

but than it would still be user specific and others can't use it

[umbral zealot]

well how the hell else are you going to attribute points?

who would get points if they're not going towards a user?

[lunar patio]

any one helping me

😩

[umbral zealot]

no one can help before you ask a question. so go ahead and ask your question.

[earnest phoenix]

im just trying to find some code like mee6 or amariBot

[pale vessel]

no

code it yourself

4head

[umbral zealot]

ok but your question makes no sense

Points have to go towards something

usually, a user

in order to attribute points to a user, you need to ahve some structure that saves points

For each user

and how do you identify them? Through their ID!

[lunar patio]

how do i make script like if cmd send then bot replies after 1 min.

[umbral zealot]

so you add a point to the user, by ID

[earnest phoenix]

nvm

[umbral zealot]

Aight give up instead of seeing the problem through if that's easier for you then

[umbral zealot]

what programming language?

[lunar patio]

.js

[umbral zealot]

use setTimeout

[tardy hornet]

i forgot about the guild count thing, its guild. something, anyone have the Documentation for that?

[marble juniper]

setTimeout(() => {
// Code executed after delay
}, delay in milliseconds)

lol

[earnest phoenix]

how do i do backend stuff in next without a custom server

[marble juniper]

client.guilds.cache.size
you mean?

at least for discord.js

lol

[earnest phoenix]

lol

[earnest phoenix]

docs: https://discord.js.org/#/docs/main/stable/class/Guild#members

[tardy hornet]

yes ty

[tardy hornet]

ty

[earnest phoenix]

yw

[lunar patio]

will it work on if the cmd is !cd then bot replies [ Alright , {user} I'll remind you in 1 min.]

after 1 min' [ <@> , your cooldown is over.]

[umbral zealot]

yes it will work

if you code it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[marble juniper]

yeah

lol

[earnest phoenix]

ahem https://tryitands.ee

[marble juniper]

just put the settimeout after the first message

lol

[earnest phoenix]

lol

[marble juniper]

lol

[earnest phoenix]

🤣 lolololol

[marble juniper]

it says

missing permissions

means

[earnest phoenix]

try reading the error again, but slowly

[marble juniper]

it has missing permissions

[earnest phoenix]

It have all perms 🙄

Read already

[marble juniper]

maybe not in other servers

[umbral zealot]

Then you're trying to affect a member with a higher or equal role

[earnest phoenix]

what are you doing anyways

[marble juniper]

lol

[earnest phoenix]

lol

[marble juniper]

the error says missing permissions

so it has missing permissions

[earnest phoenix]

Uhmm

[marble juniper]

cuz the error says missing permissions

[umbral zealot]

"missing permission" can also happen if you're trying to add a nickname to someone with a higher role I think

[marble juniper]

yeah

[earnest phoenix]

yep

lol

[marble juniper]

can also happen with role hierachy

lol