development

[crimson vapor]

hi Luke

[rustic nova]

Sus

one sec

[crimson vapor]

[rustic nova]

@earnest phoenix please don't advertise here

[lyric mountain]

plus the documentation is written with Comic Sans-like font

[crimson vapor]

pog

[cinder patio]

the functionality's probably very limited tho

[green kestrel]

when we were at college doing computing, as a complete beginner exercise for those who had never programmed they asked them to write some instructions to an alien who'd never been to earth before how to make a cheese sandwich

cue rabbit warren of realising that you have to define what bread is, what a knife is, how to hold it, where to get bread....

[crimson vapor]

how many years ago was this?

[green kestrel]

hmm, 23?

[crimson vapor]

lmao

boomer

[pale vessel]

god damn

[green kestrel]

it still applies though! think about it

[crimson vapor]

yeah it really does

[lyric mountain]

yeah, now imagine:

[green kestrel]

its showing how you cant expect a computer to assume anything, it takes everything literally

so where someone in their thing puts "put butter on bread", the lecturer acts out what the alien would do, takes the literal box of butter and places the BOX on the loaf

🤣

[crimson vapor]

lmao

[green kestrel]

we all already know how to code, so this is captain obvious moment to us

but if youre explaining programming to your grandma... well this is where i'd start

[pale vessel]

by the way Brain did you take a break from moderating or?

[green kestrel]

no im no longer a moderator

[crimson vapor]

ah

[pale vessel]

I see

[crimson vapor]

working more on the bot?

[green kestrel]

i didnt have time to fit it in alongside family, job and triviabot, i stopped doing queue

[lyric mountain]

instructions unclear, loaf is not defined
my dict tells loafs are a thing cats do

assuming loaf is a cat

[crimson vapor]

yeah I assumed it was a time thing

[green kestrel]

eventually they decided enough was enough and took my access away, but tbh i dont miss reviewing endless stream of turkbots at all

i found it demoralising and demotivating

[crimson vapor]

yeah it just seems like pain

[green kestrel]

i can actually make reasonable money developing triviabot in my free time now

and thats fun 😄

[crimson vapor]

triviabot has a patreon or something?

[cinder patio]

you go girl

[green kestrel]

it has premium

[crimson vapor]

ah

how much is premium?

[green kestrel]

basic month premium is £3, charged through stripe/chargebee
in jan i made £750, because 5 people all bought lifetime all at once

[crimson vapor]

wow

[pale vessel]

pog

[green kestrel]

it averages about 350 a month atm

[crimson vapor]

thats pog

especially if it contiunes to grow

[green kestrel]

it may sound a lot but most of this is repaying the thousands i sunk into ads lol

i loaned myself big money

[lyric mountain]

£350 is R$ 1900 here

you receive a minimum wage

[crimson vapor]

yeah I remember you talking about how its not really worth it

[green kestrel]

its not worth it to do as a day job no

i have a day job, so its additional income

[crimson vapor]

a fun project with benefits basically?

[green kestrel]

yup

the aim was to get it to pay for its own hosting

i didnt even expect to get that far, because no other project ive ever done has

i sunk years of my life and a couple of thousand £ into developing and releasing a game on steam

that never made its money back

[crimson vapor]

yikes

was it at least a fun project? or was it just painful

[green kestrel]

tbh for releasing a quality game, £2000 is nothing. people spend millions

i refused to spend any money on ads/marketing

it was very much fun

[crimson vapor]

well thats good

[green kestrel]

and i was nominated as finalist at an indie games competition

[crimson vapor]

oh thats cool

[green kestrel]

won an all expenses paid trip to london, vip pass, afterparties, and exhibited the game at an expo

it was awesome

[crimson vapor]

pog

[green kestrel]

a thing thatll prob never happen again

[crimson vapor]

how many years ago was this?

[green kestrel]

2019

[crimson vapor]

oh so the game is still current

[green kestrel]

yup

[pale vessel]

what's it called?

[green kestrel]

search steam for 'mr boom's firework factory'

[modest maple]

tl;dr is a puzzle game

its pretty cool

[green kestrel]

its a really really hard puzzle game, like the dark souls of puzzle games with a dark storyline

it makes people want to throw their gamepad at the screen

and do this

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[crimson vapor]

game engine or from scratch?

[green kestrel]

game engine

ue4

[crimson vapor]

ah

[green kestrel]

i did two previous versions from scratch and abandoned them

part of the reason it took so long

a large portion of the £2000 cost was graphical assets, and the voice over for the main character

mr boom's voice was done by a guy called matt howell who did the voice over for the world of tanks ad on US TV during the superbowl one year

[sage bobcat]

One message removed from a suspended account.

One message removed from a suspended account.

[crimson vapor]

oh that makes sense

[green kestrel]

when i went to that expo, i networked with a bunch of people and one of them put me in touch with really nice voice talent

i think his voiceover cost me £300

[small meteor]

Sooo my bot isn't responding to ANY commands out of the blue

I changed nothing

[solemn latch]

any errors?

[small meteor]

Nope

[green kestrel]

steam listing itself cost me £70

[small meteor]

Nothing

[solemn latch]

are you catching every error 👀

[green kestrel]

discord listing £25

basically lots of little costs to release

[small meteor]

And my bot is being reviewed today or tmmrw so this is kind of sad

Yea, out of NOWHERE this happened.

It was working fine last night then now nothing

[sterile lantern]

if(!answer4.first().content.toLowerCase() === "partner") {
  return message.author.send("That was not a valid program. Please re-run the command and enter a valid program next time.")
}
if(!answer4.first().content.toLowerCase() === "notable group") {
 return message.author.send("That was not a valid program. Please re-run the command and enter a valid program next time.")
}```

confusion

if i say partner

it returns that message

[solemn latch]

does your bot do stuff which might cause it to get ratelimited?

[green kestrel]

@small meteor you didnt host it in france at ovh did you?

[sterile lantern]

but i want it to say that message if the content is not partner or notable group

[solemn latch]

lol brain

[small meteor]

No, its CA OVH @green kestrel

[lyric mountain]

ovh...

[crimson vapor]

LMAO

[small meteor]

And no

[green kestrel]

[small meteor]

@solemn latch

[lyric mountain]

this bot's on fireeeeeeee

[green kestrel]

im on OVH Poland

[crimson vapor]

learn the and operator

[sterile lantern]

i tried and

[solemn latch]

have you tried restarting the bot?

[crimson vapor]

@green kestrel im on OVH Virginia

[sterile lantern]

i thought that was the issue

but then i seperated

still doesnt work

[crimson vapor]

thats even more of an issue

[green kestrel]

i need to review my backup policy tbh, reading about what happened to france DC scared me

[small meteor]

Yea I did

[crimson vapor]

DC?

[green kestrel]

makes me wonder what corners they may be cutting at my DC

datacentre

[lyric mountain]

data center

[crimson vapor]

ah

[small meteor]

Can someone take a look with me in a VC?

[solemn latch]

are you using try/catch everywhere so that errors dont log? 👀

[sterile lantern]

if(!answer4.first().content.toLowerCase() === "partner" || !answer4.first().content.toLowerCase() === "notable group") {```

[small meteor]

yea

[green kestrel]

unfortunately i cant. my work uses discord, i spend 9 hours a day in their VC

[crimson vapor]

no because that will always be called

[solemn latch]

thats a bad thing, you wont know what errors are happening if you never log them

[small meteor]

@solemn latch There is nothing wrong with the Code..... everything in the Code is fine, the bot just doesn't trigger commands

Dashboard runs fine

[crimson vapor]

@green kestrel bro get discord canary and stable so you can have 2 vc connections

[sterile lantern]

wym

well when i say partner

it sends error msg

thats what i dont want

[lyric mountain]

negate both

!(condition1 || condition2)

[sterile lantern]

o

didnt i do that tho

[lyric mountain]

instead of !condition1 || !condition2

[sterile lantern]

ih

oh*

[crimson vapor]

this is basic logic

lmao

[lyric mountain]

the former will run if either of those is true

the later will run if either of those isn't true

[small meteor]

I even restarted my VPS

[solemn latch]

that is an issue with code though 👀
if the bots online, and its not doing what its supposed to, 99% of the time its a code issue.

[small meteor]

I cant see how that is possible lol

[sterile lantern]

do you do any requests with your bot

web requests

in your main bot file

bc that can be the cause of ur bot not responding

[small meteor]

It works now... I found the problem

[sterile lantern]

what was it?

[small meteor]

@sterile lantern thank you for that idea, I had the handle incorrect

[sterile lantern]

oof

rip

np

[small meteor]

I must have typed something there on accident bc on one of my lines it said thank you LOL

Welp

[solemn latch]

one of the things that can help with these types of accidents is using git. once you update something, you can see all changes from that point to find those kinds of mistakes.
it can save a lot of time

[green kestrel]

use git, love git.

git is life

https://tenor.com/view/git-merge-gitmerge-gif-18010083

[lyric mountain]

git gud

[misty sigil]

me merging my 17 commits across 2 machines

[green kestrel]

the best bit is that one final guy

who trips over the guy getting up

[lyric mountain]

those two untracked files

[earnest phoenix]

https://pastebin.com/Cju6Xux6

So it's showing permissions that the user doesn't have anyone know what I did wrong?

[lyric mountain]

you again...

why are you still making those if comparations?

[earnest phoenix]

Because

idk

[earnest phoenix]

[solemn latch]

<Permissions>.toArray(); will give you the permissions as an array

no need to if each permission

[earnest phoenix]

yes but

Why is it listing the permissions when the user doesn't have them

[solemn latch]

no idea tbh, im too hungry to think 👀

but you could get rid of 99% of the code, for a 100% working method

[lament rock]

Is Permissions what the user has or what's modified? isn't there an allow | deny property

[earnest phoenix]

It should list the permissions that the user has

but the permissions that should be listed that the user has are listed

and not like a permission view channel

[solemn latch]

https://discord.js.org/#/docs/main/stable/class/GuildMember?scrollTo=permissions

[earnest phoenix]

I don't understand that

lol

[solemn latch]

👀

The overall set of permissions for this member, taking only roles into account

[earnest phoenix]

I am less intelligent

but

how do I use it

just like uh

[solemn latch]

i explained a working method above

<Permissions>.toArray(); will give you the permissions as an array

[earnest phoenix]

so just put

.permissions.toArray();

and it works?

[solemn latch]

member.permissions.toArray();
instead of all those if statements should give you the permissions the user has as an array.

[earnest phoenix]

let me get this straight

.addField(`Permissions: member.permissions.toArray()`, true)

[misty sigil]

What the fuck no

[solemn latch]

the only thing your doing is replacing the if statements

and instead setting your permissions variable to the array

this part, can stay the same. ```
.addField(Permissions: ${permissions.length ? permissions.join(', ') : 'None'}, true)

[earnest phoenix]

I'm confused

What do I remove and what. do I add

[misty sigil]

don’t you need another value

[solemn latch]

didnt i just say exactly that 👀

[misty sigil]

Fields need 2 values

title and value

.addField(title, value, inline)

[drifting wedge]

how can i read a dict in py?

like do i index it?

[solemn latch]

oh heck yeah that too

[slender thistle]

index how

[drifting wedge]

how do they work

like how can i read a dict

[slender thistle]

They're not sorted/indexed

[earnest phoenix]

Isn't that there

[slender thistle]

You read a dictionary by a key

[drifting wedge]

how can i read one then?

[earnest phoenix]

the title, value and inline is there

[misty sigil]

no

It’s not

[drifting wedge]

i do dict["key"]?

[slender thistle]

yes

[drifting wedge]

ohhh

makes sense

alr ty shiv

as always

[slender thistle]

[drifting wedge]

who the fuck needs google when u have shiv lol

[slender thistle]

Tim is the StackOverflow here

[tired panther]

lol

[restive willow]

does anyone here run a bot in a lot of servers? having some issues with lag and wondering if anyone else has experienced & fixed similar issues

[slender thistle]

Usually has something to do with resource-heavy processing

[restive willow]

im nto really doing anything intensive, most it does is upload emojis

[slender thistle]

Is that all it does?

Could be an issue with caching

[restive willow]

thats the most intensive thing i can think of it, most of the other commands are sending embeds with stuff in them

wym by caching

[slender thistle]

Member/user/presence caching

[restive willow]

I haven't touched that, would i need to disable aynthing

[slender thistle]

Well, it's suggested to only cache what you really need, so go through what the bot needs to cache and apply appropriate intents to your client on connection

Apart from that, make sure the machine the bot runs on doesn't get overwhelmed along with its network

[lament rock]

What exactly do you mean by lag. How much memory is it using? Is it downloading large images and then re-sending them? What language are you using?

[restive willow]

lag as in sometimes commands take a while to respond, even simple ones like >help

let me pull up the vps dashboard

and ill get back to you

[misty sigil]

100% cpu usage

[lament rock]

python seems like. Might possibly be asyncio wait blocking the thread.

What you should do is use non blocking methods or multithread your application

[restive willow]

https://prnt.sc/10j0gfx
https://prnt.sc/10j0gjl

[restive willow]

isnt that the idea of async functions? to be non blocking?

[lament rock]

186MB free is also not great. You shouldn't be depending on swap too much. Might possibly be the garbage collector blocking the thread

[solemn latch]

What's with the big cpu increase? New feature?

[restive willow]

it was offline

[restive willow]

thats true - but dont want to upgrade my vps and then find out it doesnt help at all

[lament rock]

The issue just might be that you have a memory leak or that you should look into intents. I know discord.py isn't all that great when it comes to cache management, so I'm not too sure what you can do in that regard. I don't code in python, so I wouldn't know what your best course of action could be other than to possibly cut back on intents you don't need such as presences. Practicing efficient memory management is good

[earnest phoenix]

Is there any way to have a module like in npm but private .Since i want to update it across folders.

[misty sigil]

Actually there’s 2.4g available

Linux is using 2.5G for a disk cache

it’ll reallocate it as needed tho

[cinder patio]

You can have private modules in npm, you have to pay though

[lament rock]

The disk may be a hdd and trying to sweep from an hdd will lock the process while it sweeps

[misty sigil]

See this https://www.linuxatemyram.com

[lament rock]

avoid swap at all costs

[green kestrel]

how many is a lot

[restive willow]

mine started struggling around 15k so somewhere around there

[earnest phoenix]

but i am searching a way without paying

[green kestrel]

that's a sizeable amount yes

[earnest phoenix]

with module i mean a folder which can i update via command

[misty sigil]

usb flash drive

:p

[lament rock]

:/

[earnest phoenix]

lol.That is the same if i copy and paste.I am searching for a efficient way

[solemn latch]

As in updating from like github?

[lament rock]

github private repos can serve as private npm packages

npm also has private packages, but I haven't personally seen this

[earnest phoenix]

no you have to pay for it

[lament rock]

no you don't

[solemn latch]

for private repos?

[lament rock]

github private repos are free

[earnest phoenix]

there is github submodule

[earnest phoenix]

no i mean npm

[solemn latch]

does it have to be npm?

whats the requirement that means it absolutly needs to be npm?

[earnest phoenix]

no

[lament rock]

if you're installing something as a dep, github works. npm works

[misty sigil]

Just pull from gh?

[lament rock]

npm install AmandaDiscord/Reloader
github repo

[vivid fulcrum]

don't you need the git+ prefix

or does it automagically recognize it's a gh repo

[lament rock]

if it's in the package.json, you need git:User/Repo

[earnest phoenix]

i will use submodule.If there is no other opinion

[cinder patio]

but the repo has to be public, no?

[earnest phoenix]

no

[lament rock]

I think you can auth in npm

[earnest phoenix]

where the frick do I add a , AAAA

nvm got it

im dumb

xd

[misty sigil]

what thE FUCK is that indentation

[earnest phoenix]

lol my repo

[earnest phoenix]

LOL I find it easier

[solemn latch]

what if you indent things, but like only once

[earnest phoenix]

nO

[small tangle]

channel.sendMessage("Calculating ping...").queue((msg) -> {
    final long ping = ChronoUnit.MILLIS.between(message.getTimeCreated(), msg.getTimeCreated());

    msg.editMessage("You reached the alpacafarm in **" + ping + "**ms").queue();
});

Am i calculating the ping correct? because im getting a 700/800 ms result or is just my latency so high

[quaint wasp]

I get this error..

        message.winner.send(`**Hey ${message.author}! You just won a giveaway for ${prize}, in server named ${guild.name}!`)
                       ^

TypeError: Cannot read property 'send' of undefined```

And what I am executing from index is thiS:

[misty sigil]

message.winner?

[unreal estuary]

my eyes

cri

[quaint wasp]

ya, the winner is the user who won a giveaway..

I definded it like so:

[unreal estuary]

where is it defined

[misty sigil]

It’s just winner

you NEVER define message.winner

[unreal estuary]

margarine

[quaint wasp]

..

[unreal estuary]

eat some to clear ur mind

[quaint wasp]

alr, I guess I dont realy need that part..

[unreal estuary]

yeah

just winner.

send

[misty sigil]

no

[quaint wasp]

winner.send("xdfsgadfgsdthsdfgv")?

[unreal estuary]

[zenith terrace]

yes

[misty sigil]

yes

[quaint wasp]

[unreal estuary]

yes

if winner is correct

[quaint wasp]

alr. Thanks

wait

how do I define guild?

is it possable?

[earnest phoenix]

İm how give a bit developer?

Bot

[quaint wasp]

I think its already defined..

[solemn latch]

you know the answer to that

[unreal estuary]

what guild r u doing it in

[solemn latch]

you must have an approved bot on the site.

[misty sigil]

m.guild?!

[quaint wasp]

Nothing. Im just doing guild.name

[unreal estuary]

message.guild yes

[misty sigil]

think about it

no it’s m.guild

[unreal estuary]

if ur doing the guild of the giveaway message?

[quaint wasp]

yes..

[misty sigil]

message might be entirely different

[unreal estuary]

ok

[earnest phoenix]

I'm create a bot

[quaint wasp]

I*

[solemn latch]

youve asked this question several times before smug, and gotten the answer several times before

[quaint wasp]

alr. Code it @earnest phoenix

[earnest phoenix]

Wait

[quaint wasp]

Right....

[misty sigil]

Is this the dude who didn’t know how to create an object

I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised

it is

[zenith terrace]

yea..

[misty sigil]

😅

[solemn latch]

if your having trouble remembering solutions to a problem, maybe try writing down issues you have in a journal(or file on your computer) and looking at that when you have an issue.

[quaint wasp]

no

[misty sigil]

yes it is

[solemn latch]

i always find writing down my development issues helps.

[quaint wasp]

oh..

[misty sigil]

#development message

[quaint wasp]

ok

[earnest phoenix]

Hard hard hard hard hard hard hard hard hard hard hard hard hard hard

[quaint wasp]

..

?

go to the Discord.js guid

its really helpful..

[umbral zealot]

D.js Official? helpful? Have they changed so much that they've become suddenly helpful in the last year?

[earnest phoenix]

.setFooter(`Uptime: ${uptime}`);

How do I set the bot icon in the footer iconURL

[quaint wasp]

.setFooter(`Uptime:`, uptime, client.user.displayAvatarURL());

I think its something like that.

[solemn latch]

footers only have two parameters.

https://discord.js.org/#/docs/main/stable/class/MessageEmbed?scrollTo=setFooter

[quaint wasp]

oh

dang it I forgot that

[jade saddle]

lol yep

[vestal stirrup]

can someone help me solve this problem?

The code:

.addFields (
  {name: 'Difficulty:', value: {
  im: s.Aim,
  Rating: s.Rating,
}, inline: true},
)```

the problem:

[umbral zealot]

The value should be a string not an object

[vivid fulcrum]

please why does everyone have fucked up indentation

[vestal stirrup]

but is it possible to put objects in the string?

[umbral zealot]

... no you need to give value a string

[restive furnace]

because it's not python

[umbral zealot]

value will not accept anything else

[vestal stirrup]

I got it, thanks

[jade saddle]

makes it easier to read tho...

hmm

I have a minesweeper bot with this code

        for (c = 0; c < board.length; c++) {
            if (board[b][c] > 8) {
                try {
                    if (b - 1 < 0 || c - 1 < 0) {} else {
                        board[b-1][c-1]++
                    }
                } catch (error) {};
                try {
                    if (b - 1 < 0) {} else {
                        board[b-1][c]++
                    }
                } catch (error) {};
                try {
                    if (b - 1 < 0 || c + 1 < 0) {} else {
                        board[b-1][c+1]++
                    }
                } catch (error) {};
                try {
                    if (c - 1 < 0) {} else {
                        board[b][c-1]++
                    }
                } catch (error) {};
                try {
                    if (b < 0 || c + 1 < 0) {} else {
                        board[b][c+1]++
                    }
                } catch (error) {};
                try {
                    if (b + 1 < 0 || c - 1 < 0) {} else {
                        board[b+1][c-1]++
                    }
                } catch (error) {};
                try {
                    if (b + 1 < 0 || c < 0) {} else {
                        board[b+1][c]++
                    }
                } catch (error) {};
                try {
                    if (b + 1 < 0 || c + 1 < 0) {} else {
                        board[b+1][c+1]++
                    }
                } catch (error) {};
            }
        }
    }```I wanna find a way to make it more efficient

[umbral zealot]

why in heavens is that not a global try/catch, first of all?

[jade saddle]

Explanation: loops through the whole board, finds which squares that are bombs, and adding 1 to all of the squares around it

[umbral zealot]

Also... do you not know how to invert conditions?

this code hurts my brain and my heart all at once

[jade saddle]

if you think about a grid:
💣⬜
⬜⬜

[vestal stirrup]

@umbral zealot I managed to solve the problem

[jade saddle]

it will catch on the -1

[jade saddle]

because I don't want list index -1

but then it will skip over the other squares

[umbral zealot]

ok but try/catch is to catch errors, oyu shouldn't be purposefully introducing errors in your code

make sure your conditions are correct and don't cause errors

[jade saddle]

what happens if I have list index out of range then

[umbral zealot]

uh make sure it's not?

You create the grid, you know the size of that grid, how would you ever get an index out of bounds?

that would be a sign of bad programming

[tired panther]

I have a command folder and how do I delete the whole cache of the command folder (to reload it)?

Ik its delete require.cache , but does it work for it?

[jade saddle]

so something like this? for (b = 0; b < board.length; b++) { for (c = 0; c < board.length; c++) { if (board[b][c] > 8) { if (b - 1 < 0 || c - 1 < 0) {} else { board[b-1][c-1]++ } if (b - 1 < 0) {} else { board[b-1][c]++ } if (b - 1 < 0 || c + 1 > 0) {} else { board[b-1][c+1]++ } if (c - 1 < 0) {} else { board[b][c-1]++ } if (c + 1 > 0) {} else { board[b][c+1]++ } if (b + 1 > 0 || c - 1 < 0) {} else { board[b+1][c-1]++ } if (b + 1 > 0) {} else { board[b+1][c]++ } if (b + 1 > 0 || c + 1 > 0) {} else { board[b+1][c+1]++ } } } }

wait no

[umbral zealot]

Also... ```js
if (b - 1 < 0) {} else {
board[b-1][c]++
}

easily simplified with ```js
                if (b - 1 > 0) { board[b-1][c]++ }

[tired panther]

easily simplied with if (b - 1 > 0) board[b-1][c]++

[umbral zealot]

invert the condition and suddenly you don't need the else part anymore

[umbral zealot]

removing the braces is... not always recommended.

[tired panther]

hmm...are there any cases, it is not recommanded?

thats a easy operation

[umbral zealot]

When you respect proper recommended linter setups

[tired panther]

lol, my question got lost 😦

[tired panther]

ah okay, interesting fact

[jade saddle]

                if (b - 1 > 0 && c - 1 > 0) {board[b-1][c-1]++}
                if (b - 1 > 0) {board[b-1][c]++}
                if (b - 1 > 0 && c + 1 < boardSize-1) {board[b-1][c+1]++}
                if (c - 1 > 0) {board[b][c-1]++}
                if (c + 1 < boardSize-1) {board[b][c+1]+}
                if (b + 1 < boardSize-1 && c - 1 > 0) {board[b+1][c-1]++}
                if (b + 1 < boardSize-1) {board[b+1][c]++}
                if (b + 1 < boardSize-1 && c + 1 < boardSize-1) {board[b+1][c+1]++}```
something like this should work right?

[tired panther]

    const resolveFolder = folderName => path.resolve(__dirname, "..", "..", folderName);
        const commandsFolder = resolveFolder("commands");
        fs.readdirSync(commandsFolder).map(async(dir) => {
            if (dir.endsWith(".txt")) return;
            fs.readdirSync(path.join(commandsFolder, dir)).map((cmd) => {
                const pull = require(path.join(commandsFolder, dir, cmd));
                delete require.cache[pull];
                client.commands.delete(pull.name);
                client.commands.set(pull.name, pull);
                if (pull.aliases) {
                    pull.aliases.map((p) => client.aliases.delete(p));
                    pull.aliases.map((p) => client.aliases.set(p, pull));
                }
            });
        });
``` Does not work, It does not reload the commands

[quaint wasp]

guys

my bot is like..

EXTREAMLY slow..

It takes it like 10 seconds to reply..

and its only in 17 or so servers..

😐

[tired panther]

You did something wrong in your code

[jade saddle]

or internet broke

[quaint wasp]

And idk if I should make sharding..

nah.. its pretty good

[tired panther]

no, does not help

[quaint wasp]

Im litilary next to modem.

[quaint wasp]

I checked it and I found nothing wrong..

[jade saddle]

no like, modem to internet, not computer to modem

[quaint wasp]

ya

I got internet..

Wify

[earnest phoenix]

every guild by me uses 2mb ram

[quaint wasp]

wify

[umbral zealot]

wifi isn't internet. wifi is your local home connection

[jade saddle]

do an internet speed test

[quaint wasp]

ho

w

[jade saddle]

https://www.speedtest.net/

[quaint wasp]

@jade saddle its arround 230s.

[jade saddle]

230s what

230ms?

[earnest phoenix]

Random question but, is there a length limit for vanity url?

[jade saddle]

idk

[quaint wasp]

I think there is..

[quaint wasp]

what its showing.

[earnest phoenix]

lel

[quaint wasp]

oh

MPBS

wow..

[jade saddle]

can you like screenshot the result screen

[quaint wasp]

my ping is 10.

[earnest phoenix]

MPBS is not mb/s :c

[umbral zealot]

Speed looks great, so definitely not a problem with your internet then

Sounds like a code issue - 10 seconds is simply way too long even for a show internet

What sort of command are you running?

[quaint wasp]

any

like stats command

[tired panther]

1000X awaits lol, probably they are waiting for something

[quaint wasp]

help command

[jade saddle]

👍 1ms ping

[tired panther]

are the all in a file?

[tired panther]

you edited it lol

[earnest phoenix]

hmm edited it?

[jade saddle]

nope

absolutely real

[quaint wasp]

no

like wtf

[umbral zealot]

Is every command slow or just those ones?

[quaint wasp]

I got a command handler

[quaint wasp]

portland OR.

[jade saddle]

also sometimes my bot has -1000ms ping

idk

but my ping command may be broken

[tired panther]

protip: Inline is deafult on false

[quaint wasp]

o

[jade saddle]

wait

is the embed defined every time?

[deft lark]

hi

[jade saddle]

might be a bit more efficient to define the embed when you first start the bot

[quaint wasp]

Ya...

wait

what

?

[jade saddle]

so like

[crimson vapor]

ping is stupid

[quaint wasp]

const (embedname) = new Discord.Messageembed?

[crimson vapor]

don't ever compare it

[quaint wasp]

ya..

[jade saddle]

const help = new Discord.MessageEmbed()
.setTitle("Minesweeper Bot")
.setColor("#E6E7E8")
.addField("ms/small [difficulty(1-3)]", "Generate small game (6x6)", false)
.addField("ms/medium [difficulty(1-3)]", "Generate medium game (8x8)", false)
.addField("ms/large [difficulty(1-3)]", "Generate large game (10x10)", false)``` put that at the beginning of your code

[crimson vapor]

ping is quite literally how far you are from the server

[jade saddle]

and just call "help" every time you run the command

[crimson vapor]

it really only matters when its super high

[crimson vapor]

ping for a bot matters

because thats bot -> discord

a speedtest tho

thats internet -> the random server

[smoky herald]

hello, I made a new update for my bot which was running completely fine in the test environment, but when I ran it on the standart version it seemed to loop in this error

[crimson vapor]

therefore if you do it at some Uni, its gonna be low. Even when you could be miles away from discord servers

[quaint wasp]

now its like this

[smoky herald]

I read that Discord Client extends the node emitter or smth, could I have too many shards that I need to increase the emitter limit mb?

can't even run the index.js file anymore

[quaint wasp]

lol

[opal plank]

cuz it does

[quaint wasp]

I got this:

[opal plank]

it extends emitter

[quaint wasp]

module.exports = {
  name: 'ban',
  execute: async (client, message, args) => {
    if (!message.member.hasPermission('BAN_MEMBERS')) return message.channel.send("You can't use that!");
    if (!message.guild.me.hasPermission('BAN_MEMBERS'))
      return message.channel.send("I don't have the right permissions.");

    const member = message.mentions.members.first() || message.guild.members.cache.get(args[0]);

    if (!args[0]) return message.channel.send('Please specify a user');

    if (!member) return message.channel.send("Can't seem to find this user. Sorry 'bout that :/");
    if (!member.bannable)
      return message.channel.send(
        "This user can't be banned. It is either because they are a mod/admin, or their highest role is higher than mine",
      );

    if (member.id === message.author.id) return message.channel.send("Bruh, you can't ban yourself!");
    let reason = args.slice(1).join(' ');

    if (!reason) reason = 'Unspecified';

    member.ban(`${reason}`).catch(err => {
      message.channel.send('Something went wrong');
      console.log(err);
    });
    const Discord = require('discord.js')
    const banEmbed = new Discord.MessageEmbed()
      .setColor('#FF0000')
      .setTitle('Member Banned')
      .setThumbnail(member.user.displayAvatarURL())
      .addField('User Banned', member)
      .addField('Kicked by', message.author)
      .addField('Reason', reason)
      .setFooter('Time banned', client.user.displayAvatarURL())

    message.channel.send(banEmbed);
    console.log("Ban command had been ran..")
  },
};```

[opal plank]

which you likely use already

[quaint wasp]

But..

it says invalid body form.

[opal plank]

client.on('message')```

you likely have that in code

[quaint wasp]

DiscordAPIError: Invalid Form Body

[quaint wasp]

ya I do..

[opal plank]

the reason you can use .on() and .emit() is because its constructd with super() with the event emitter

aka its extending

smug, not you

[quaint wasp]

oh

[opal plank]

@smoky herald referring to this person

[smoky herald]

[opal plank]

as far as too many shards, realisitically its completely up to your processor/threads

theres no "hard limit" on shards

[tired panther]

I made a cool npm module, with all moderation commands and db. But I wont publish it. Bc it doesnt fullfill the standards of @Not Erwin#8753 lol

[opal plank]

though you'll hit the maximum your processor/threads can handle depending on how many you'll be spawning

[opal plank]

good, keeping NPM a friendly and clean place

[opal plank]

you should be stringifying or checking some stuff

i assume the issue is
.addField('User Banned', member)
.addField('Kicked by', message.author)
either one of those

[smoky herald]

sooo, each client.on in shard counts as the emitter, meaning the more shards the more emitters, meaning the "possible leak" isn't really correct and increasing the emitter limit is sufficient?

I'm currently at 13-14 shards with 13.8k servers and the hosting machine is 2 virtual cores I believe

[opal plank]

while they SHOULD turn into string called with toString(), tehcnically you passing an object to where it should be a string

[quaint wasp]

I.... dont understand.

[opal plank]

discord.js should have a sharder for it, you shouldnt need a client.on(*) any

[opal plank]

fields: [{
name: string,
value: string,
inline: boolean
}]
this is the shape your fields must have

as per discord api documentation

[tired panther]

 require.cache[require.resolve(`./dev/eval.js`)];
``` why doesnt this work lol, 
```errror
cannot find module './dev/eval.js'
``` I want to reload a command in a category

[opal plank]

member is an object

same for author

you should be passing a string

not an object

this is one of the downsides of not using ts, typescript would warn you about that

@quaint wasp

typescript would tell you about this error before you even ran the code

[tired panther]

it works with ./eval.js , but when I want to reload a other command in a other category. It causes the error

[opal plank]

as for you, that usually means you got too many, you realisitically dont need that with internal sharding, though if you're using a sharder, thats a different story

what do you have rn in terms of code?

internal or cluster sharding?

[smoky herald]

I'm using the inbuild discord.js sharding manager

[opal plank]

hmmm i havent used d.js sharding, you might need to ask someone who knows more

i know about sharding, since i use it myself, but not in d.js

even though i know a bunch, im not going to give input on something im not sure of myself

[tired panther]

nvm , fixed itmyself

[opal plank]

i use a better lib

[quaint wasp]

o.

[smoky herald]

so I just have this in the index.js that I'm running and the client.on() "ready" and "message" in the app.js file

[tired panther]

detritus clan

[tired panther]

whats your problem?, I am good at sharding lol

[quaint wasp]

so it should be.. ''?

[opal plank]

what?

[quaint wasp]

the stuff surrounding the message?

[smoky herald]

I restarted my bot with a new update which was running just fine on the test bot, but I started getting this error
#development message

[quaint wasp]

👀

[opal plank]

that might be the cause then

[tired panther]

Flash emojis are not allowed 😦

[opal plank]

that has nothing to do with it, i explained, you're passing an object, its expecting a string

[opal plank]

[crimson vapor]

shit too flashy

[smoky herald]

dang

[crimson vapor]

📸

[opal plank]

thats what she said

[crimson vapor]

is it?

[opal plank]

yeah, it glows in the dark

[crimson vapor]

ah

I see now

[tired panther]

read the error lol, it says to append the max event listner

[tired panther]

thats a bot probably, which just take action on gif emojis

[crimson vapor]

huh

[tired panther]

and your code pls

[smoky herald]

well it directs to memory leaks, would be increasing listeners a solution in the case something is looping in the code? I don't even properly know how to append the max event listeners tbh, first time I read that term

[opal plank]

client.setMaxListeners(<number>) should work

[tired panther]

I had this error a while ago, when I was doing some tests. How much memory does your device have?

[opal plank]

i had to set my listeners dynamically for my other project

i should've added that to the cursed code i've created

[tired panther]

lol

[smoky herald]

aight, Ill give it a try

[smoky herald]

it has 4gigs, it didn't go above 2.2 of usage before this restart

[quartz kindle]

thats not a solution lol, thats hiding the error

[opal plank]

i dont think you quite understand how bad practice what i did is

the issue is that i knew what i was doing

[quartz kindle]

you're adding data and error listeners to the same emitter, not different emitters

[opal plank]

any half baked dev would tell you how critically dangerous what im doing is for a coding evnironment

actually

while tim is here

@quartz kindle let them know how good this is

[tired panther]

[vestal stirrup]

I want to create another line in the fields, I tried to use the comma but it didn't work

code:

{name: 'PP', value: "raw: \ " + pp.raw, inline: false}

[tired panther]

when your code has an error or something is wrong with the maxSlaves. It will explode lol

[opal plank]

i handled all rejections properly, so it wouldnt cause issues.

the reason thats there is so node 15 doesnt crash

most stuff i have is shielded inside catch blocks

[quartz kindle]

why do you need so many listeners lol

[opal plank]

me?

[quartz kindle]

ye

[opal plank]

for this

[tired panther]

a npm package for letting exploding your code with maxEventlisteners

[opal plank]

since theres multiple processes, i need to create/remove them as needed

[crimson vapor]

yikes

[tired panther]

a question, what are the "__", how are they called?

[opal plank]

underscore?

[tired panther]

a 💡

[opal plank]

usually you append _ for stuff thats used internally

since the lib im using already has stuff internally, im adding my own internal

so i stacked 2

[vestal stirrup]

...

[opal plank]

some events have a generated id too

[tired panther]

Wait, dont you need a package for underscore? or does node.js has it on default?

[opal plank]

probably a really shitty design, but since it was already super complicated i went for adding/removing listeners on the go

[opal plank]

huh?

usually people use _ for lodash

[tired panther]

wait not what, my typos 😔

[opal plank]

but not, apart from global theres nothing js provides out the gate for you

[earnest phoenix]

hello

[opal plank]

and process

i think theres 2 other things

but i cant remember what they were

[quartz kindle]

well, you could easily increase/decrease max listeners instead of setting a global max

[earnest phoenix]

any good free service to host 24/7?

[quartz kindle]

increase when adding, decrease when removing

[jade saddle]

your computer

[tired panther]

and you load the require on the dash xD 💡

[opal plank]

that would work, but i went for 50 simultaneous messages/events per shard(slave)

[tired panther]

repl.it hacker plan

[earnest phoenix]

yeah funny

free service

hacker plan is not free

[opal plank]

@earnest phoenix werent you asking about that a couple days ago?

[earnest phoenix]

yea but turns out

[opal plank]

well, regardless

do you have credit card?

[tired panther]

you get it 6 months free, when you are a student

[earnest phoenix]

heroku only has 20 days a month and I need to add a credit card for that extra 10 days smh

[opal plank]

do you have a credit card or nah?

[earnest phoenix]

no

[opal plank]

then heroku/repl/glitch are your only options

not even repl

fuck that

[earnest phoenix]

[opal plank]

glitch or heroku

[jade saddle]

or just get a separate rig like I have

[slender thistle]

Repl is fine

[earnest phoenix]

heroku only 20 days a month

[opal plank]

i heard some token leaks from rpl

[jade saddle]

and run that 24/7

[cinder patio]

repl is better than glitch

[earnest phoenix]

glitch is shit

[opal plank]

who was it that was mentioning it?

@crimson vapor was it u?

[crimson vapor]

what

ive never used repl

kekw

[opal plank]

i recall someone mentioning having their tokens stolen from repl

[tired panther]

from repl? token leaks?

[opal plank]

yeah

i dont recall who was it

green name, thats all i remember

[jade saddle]

the safest option is obv just local host it

but if you can't

[tired panther]

lol

[slender thistle]

token leaks you mean from .json files or .env

[opal plank]

i assumed that too

but they showed it wasnt posted

and after they changed, it got leaked again

[slender thistle]

[opal plank]

i really dont recall who it was

[slender thistle]

Sounds like just dumbassery to me

[opal plank]

i assumed too, but i kept it in mind

[tired panther]

repl is a big company, I dont think that they leaks token

Assuming their server did not get hacked

[earnest phoenix]

I hate heroku, 20 days free hosting but need to add a credit card for that extra 10 days

[tired panther]

[earnest phoenix]

but before it was 1000 hours free without credit card

that's kinda shet

[smoky herald]

I can't literally start the bot

[tired panther]

after you putted in not Erwin setmaxEvent.... ?

[jade saddle]

there was this really weird bug with linux and discord.js

[opal plank]

this has nothing to do with maxEventLIsteners

[jade saddle]

it was using .flat and apparently javascript on linux doesn't have that

[opal plank]

what?

[misty sigil]

It does

??

[opal plank]

that makes no sense whatsoever

its node

your node version prob outdated af

[jade saddle]

or node on linux

[crimson vapor]

yeah make sure you update

[opal plank]

i use node on linux

[crimson vapor]

lol

[opal plank]

absolutely bs

[jade saddle]

i just removed the lines it was on

[opal plank]

im using ubuntu

[jade saddle]

and it worked fine

[crimson vapor]

you are probably on node 11

[opal plank]

^^

[umbral zealot]

array.flat() was introduced on node.js 12.0

[opal plank]

update your node my dude

[jade saddle]

hmmm

[smoky herald]

it didn't occur after I added that line, once I got the leaks message and terminated the process, I couldn't run it again

[jade saddle]

ok

[quartz kindle]

you're likely using the outdated linux node

[smoky herald]

that's pretty possible, but would it just making trouble now?

[quartz kindle]

you have to install node directly from the node website, or using node installers/managers

the linux repos for node are always outdated

[opal plank]

no but remember node 15 crashes on ANY unhandled/uncaught rejection

so unless you're coding your bot properly(which i can see you arent), dont update to anything beyond 15

[tired panther]

Node 14 is good or should I update to 15?

[tired panther]

oh lol, thx

[smoky herald]

ahh

15.2.1

[tired panther]

downgrade it to 14.x

[smoky herald]

okok

[jade saddle]

uhhhhh

[jade saddle]

so sudo apt-get install nodejs won't work?

I followed the directions on the website

[quartz kindle]

no

that will always be outdated

[jade saddle]

how should I do it then?

[quartz kindle]

you can try this https://github.com/nodesource/distributions/blob/master/README.md

or install nvm from github

[crimson vapor]

@opal plank could you pr buckets (limits) into this? https://github.com/discord-rose/cooldown-middleware

[vestal stirrup]

I finally got it

[opal plank]

hell nah

[crimson vapor]

pog

[misty sigil]

lmao

[opal plank]

im working, and i got 4 massive projects to work on

[crimson vapor]

lmao

[vivid fulcrum]

same, but not same for the im working part

[quartz kindle]

^

lmao

[vestal stirrup]

lmao

[vivid fulcrum]

i literally just stare at my code for a few hours instead of... working on it

[quartz kindle]

same

[slim heart]

now i have to do it

weary

[quartz kindle]

i dont even stare at it actually

[slim heart]

tim u do it

ez

[quartz kindle]

i just think about it 24/7

[slim heart]

its not in ts

B)

[quartz kindle]

but never do it

[misty sigil]

staring at code is boring

just think about working on it but never do it

[quartz kindle]

i code in my imagination and in my dreams

[misty sigil]

your dream says:
syntax error on line 34

[quartz kindle]

line 42*

[misty sigil]

plot twist: they’re the same line

how?

no idea

[vivid fulcrum]

i've had moments where i'm very tired and i have a problem in my life and i find out the solution in my head to that problem with programming... then i remember that you can't do that

[latent heron]



[quartz kindle]

hahah

[tired panther]

I want to this too

[jade saddle]

thats what I did

and I followed what it said

[proven lantern]

is there ever a case where a bot can reply to a message in a text channel using msg.reply, but cant use msg.channel.send?

[slim heart]

should i separate my rest code to a different package

e

[misty sigil]

no you need it

[jade saddle]

idk, normally if the bot has send permissions both should work

actually, reply is basically sending a message while mentioning the user

so prob not

[quartz kindle]

and which version did it install? do node -v

[jade saddle]

version 10

[latent heron]



[quartz kindle]

ye thats old

[proven lantern]

thanks, that's what i'm thinking too

[misty sigil]

o h god

[latent heron]



[slim heart]

yeah so then i'd use the package in the internals as well

[quartz kindle]

use this then https://github.com/nvm-sh/nvm

[misty sigil]

use what hen, tim

[jade saddle]

o wait

[slim heart]

just like ez import { RestManager } from '@disord-rose/rest' or something

[jade saddle]

for the curl command

[opal plank]

i still think [ object Object ] should have custom cake role

[cinder patio]

I didn't know some people's birthdays lasted 2 days

[misty sigil]

look Tim’s like the queen

[opal plank]

ez, birthday on feb 29

[misty sigil]

has 2 birthdays

and those are just ones we know of

[opal plank]

he's gonna have cake role for the next 4 years

[slim heart]

<@&330168063729074177> bonk

[opal plank]

i would actually laugh my ass if he kept it

[slim heart]

ez tim ping

[solemn latch]

his birthday is clearly several days long

👀

[misty sigil]

Tim does not consent to having his cake role taken away

[opal plank]

fuck

@quartz kindle not this year

[graceful shore]

can someone help me message.guild.members.cache.random(); is returning undefined

[misty sigil]

no members cached

[opal plank]

2024 tim gets cake role for the next 4 years

is .random() even a thing in collections?

[slim heart]

yes

[misty sigil]

yep

[stable nimbus]

Even though I only call for one message to be send, why is my bot going back over and sending a second message? Basically doubling down, only one node processes by the way I already checked that.

[graceful shore]

yes

[opal plank]

onteoresting

[graceful shore]

so is there a way to fix it?

[slim heart]

very onteoresting

[slim heart]

cache members

[graceful shore]

how

[slim heart]

do u have the members intent

[stable nimbus]

await message.channel.send(`Okay ${message.member.displayName}, this will take you about 15 seconds! (I will give you your results)`);

                    setTimeout(function() {
                        if(x <= 20) {
                            return message.channel.send(`No damage to the cuffs when you tried to pick them, but you're stuck still.`)
                        }

Why would this be sending two messages?

[graceful shore]

yes

[tired panther]

lol, when it took 2 days to born you 🤣

[graceful shore]

i do

[quartz kindle]

lmao

[graceful shore]

so um, how do i fix?

i have it

[tired panther]

go do Discord Dev portal and enable the toggle for member intents

[slim heart]

idk how djs works anymore ask in their support server

[graceful shore]

its toggled on

[tired panther]

add it in clientoptions in ws

[graceful shore]

ws?

[tired panther]

ws: {intents:["GUILDS","GUILD_MESSAGES", "GUILD_MESSAGE_REACTIONS", "GUILD_MEMBERS" ]}
})```

[graceful shore]

ah

[tired panther]

wait check now

[graceful shore]

still undefined

[tired panther]

show me how you fetch the members

[opal plank]

wait what

[graceful shore]

message.guild.members.cache.random()

[opal plank]

intents is a number

[misty sigil]

It takes an array

[tired panther]

what should it do?

[graceful shore]

get a random member

[opal plank]

@misty sigil it dont

[misty sigil]

it takes an array too

on djs

[opal plank]

read the first line

[graceful shore]

oh yeah i probably should have said im using discord.js

[opal plank]

@misty sigil client: Client = new Discord.Client({

[misty sigil]

ah

[opal plank]

it would be idiotic of me to call detritus Discord

[misty sigil]

type script

[tired panther]

works fine for me, can you log out message.guild.members.cache.size?

[graceful shore]

it works

(im using
if(message.content) { console.log(message.guild.members.cache.size); } to log)

@tired panther

[tired panther]

now replace .size with .random()

[graceful shore]

its logging this

ah if i do .tag is undefined

which is what i was using

[daring prawn]

which bot has the best css in top.gg?

[opal plank]

mine

confidence is everything nowadays

erm

nani

[graceful shore]

how do i fix it

so i can use it like user.tag

[opal plank]

someone broke my presence

oh there we go

[tired panther]

random().user.tag yes

[opal plank]

bad

[daring prawn]

send ur bot link

lol

[opal plank]

random()?.user.tag

[tired panther]

[opal plank]

https://top.gg/bot/773585165317570610

[daring prawn]

wait got it

[tired panther]

just supported on node 14

[opal plank]

sssshhh

details

[daring prawn]

so leviathan?

[opal plank]

properly check if random() returned something

[opal plank]

no, genshinUtils

[tired panther]

advertise moment lol

[opal plank]

leviathan is my twitch/discord bridge bot

[opal plank]

dunno wutchu talking bout

[daring prawn]

ur css is pretty easy i can do, but how to change vote buttons,report button, with like colors and stuff like before

[tired panther]

[opal plank]

wdym?

[earnest phoenix]

Because you hover to ALL which is indeed number no? What if you hover the intents parameter, docs say it is IntentsResolvable which is including but not limited to number or I'm just too sleepy

[graceful shore]

discord just did big lag

[opal plank]

types says number, im going with it

[daring prawn]

like

[opal plank]

oh that

dunno

prob color:

[daring prawn]

adding like animation etc

[opal plank]

or background-color:

you need to learn css to do fancy stuff

[daring prawn]

no but top.gg removed the one i had before in the recent update

[opal plank]

one thing i've learned is

css breaks

easy

REALLY easy

copy pasting small things work

[daring prawn]

lol

[opal plank]

but the moment you try to adjust it to all platforms and window size it fucks up

REAL good time

[daring prawn]

i can make this
https://top.gg/bot/724847752449753140

but i wanted to change vote buttons etc but top.gg removed it in the latest update

that bot is in 5kservers

or having custom commands feature

bruh

[opal plank]

it still there tho

[daring prawn]

my bot is all in one and only 100servers

[opal plank]

mine is in 3.3k

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[daring prawn]

i ecently made my bot

recently*

[opal plank]

live updates too

[daring prawn]

wait

how

can u tell me

[daring prawn]

how

bruh thats crazy

[opal plank]

SDK

[daring prawn]

huh?

oh

top.gg sdk?

[opal plank]

@daring prawn https://discord.com/developers/docs/game-sdk/sdk-starter-guide

[daring prawn]

ohh

oh

[tired panther]

thats a bad bot, it just has give, take role and small stuffs

[daring prawn]

i know right but 5k servers

my bot is all in one and i recently released it but only 100servers

[tired panther]

dumb ppll invite it, like the npm package is-thirteen

[daring prawn]

@opal plank i learned a way to copy css from other bots in top.gg

using inspect

[opal plank]

i got my first 100 servers within the 5 days i made my bot

[vivid fulcrum]

i learned from watching my cousin steal other people's myspace designs

[opal plank]

kinda blew up

[daring prawn]

idk for me almost 2 weeks cuz when i made my bot it had only 1 feature that is chatbot
and 1 command but now it has 100+commands