development

[young flame]

that was my question million

[crimson vapor]

you aren't using a command handler doe

so you don't "make" a command

[mellow kelp]

how do you want to make a command without a command handler

that's not how making a command works

[young flame]

fuck it then ill use a cmd handler

[crimson vapor]

obvously there is confusion

[young flame]

obviously*

[icy skiff]

Wait i think i knoa what u r talking about but the pic wont send

xd

[crimson vapor]

moon, normally people who don't use a command handler just use switch/case

[young flame]

you ubnderstand what im asking right

[crimson vapor]

if statements are inefficient and how else do you plan to check the command

[icy skiff]

is this what u want

[mellow kelp]

ew

[crimson vapor]

switch/case should be used there

[young flame]

thanks

thats all i asked for

[icy skiff]

ye this is disgusting but i think its what he wants

[young flame]

i dont fucking need it now

[mellow kelp]

you have successfully spoonfed someone on top.gg

[icy skiff]

im not a javascript fan so my first and only attempt to make a discord js bot i did it that way

[mellow kelp]

congratulations

[young flame]

i already started coding my own cmd handler

[icy skiff]

python all the way

[crimson vapor]

its fine it just looks shit

[young flame]

so it isnt spoon feeding

it's pain

[icy skiff]

agreed

[young flame]

bruh i told you why though

and then you said makes since

[icy skiff]

why tho

[young flame]

cause

[slender thistle]

sense not since

[young flame]

i tried and failed and once i failed i realized that i was just to stupid to understand it

so i never tried again

[crimson vapor]

thats a shit reason imo but you do you

[young flame]

but i did code my own cmd handler and use that

[young flame]

how

thats like

[crimson vapor]

its been a while since you started

[young flame]

learning lua after using rust for 5 years

i lasttried 3 months ago

[crimson vapor]

you're using js, no?

[young flame]

wym been awhile

yeah i hadn't used js in awhile so i wanted to try again

[icy skiff]

i mean trying a lot and not managing to make it work is not a really good excuse to do it in a shitty way

[young flame]

i really only forgot cause i was coding a lib

well am

[crimson vapor]

yeah, command handler is basically make a map for commands then read a directory, requiring every command, then add it to the map with the corresponding name

then you have the function on the message event do all the shit

like tests

[young flame]

yes

i dont want to do all that shit

seems pointless

[crimson vapor]

alr

[young flame]

all your doing is keeping one file under 50 lines

[slender thistle]

Preferences in nutshell

[crimson vapor]

it saves me 50 lines PER command tho

[young flame]

and im not even using one file or everything

[crimson vapor]

because I do perms checks and shit

[young flame]

i code my own way so i don't like people calling my way of thinking stupid

i use multiple files i only wanted to know how to do it that way sine im obviously not used to coding in js

if i wanted to use a command handler i would have coded one myself

thanks anyway though.

[latent heron]

I think instead of you guys going "ew cringe" and "disgusting code you do you"

You should provide more constructive criticism into why it's better to program one way than to opt to insults

This is how you begin forming programming arrogance and it's never a good thing.

[placid iron]

but then how would i show that i hate javascript?

[mellow kelp]

lmfao

[latent heron]

Here's a secret

Nobody in the software industry cares what you hate and like about a language

[placid iron]

shhh dont say it, it is a secret

[latent heron]

Either you're hired or you're not.

@crimson vapor for example, instead of going "you should use switch/case" without reason and calling their code blasphemous, actually provide a reason why, ie. better organized structure, easier to read code, or code maintainability reasons.

[placid iron]

oh my the whole switch case thing

[latent heron]

I hate that argument

A lot

Lol

[young flame]

@latent heron thanks

❤️

[latent heron]

Like I've been in moonies shoes before

This shit super annoying

Lmao

[placid iron]

that one video where a dude said that yandere dev should use switch case because it is better (he even said he isnt even sure if it is) and then everyone just started splurting out that too

[young flame]

makes me want to leave ngl

[solemn latch]

Honestly I dont like switch cases

[latent heron]

I feel that

Because it doesn't feel like constructive criticism

It feels like toxicity

You feel like when you ask for code help

[young flame]

if you gave a valid argument i probs would have agreed and tried it

[latent heron]

People will spend more time picking away your code than actually helping solve the issue you're having

[young flame]

i've already dmed ken about it though so i don't think it matters much

[latent heron]

I think as long as you got the help you needed then that's what matters

But this inflation of ego I see in many programmers saying that is the right and wrong way to use code practices without explaining why irritate me

[latent heron]

Its nothing more than a more organized approach

Literally a +/- 2 microsecond difference if you run it in C++

Thats how miniscule the practice is

[solemn latch]

Yeah, to me its just switch cases are harder to read than a chain of if statements for me personally.

[latent heron]

I just want to say that I'm not calling anyone out

I think people just need to be on the right page on things like that

It's good that code is being critiqued, it's bad that you're not giving a sensible explanation of why.

[earnest phoenix]

switch case is effective at a large scale

where you need it to jump instead of evaluating comparisons

[placid iron]

if you dont even do ```js
switch thing:
case True:
do true things
case False:
pass

who are you

[latent heron]

Honestly its a choice

Seen codebases use else ifs so much

[placid iron]

ima be honest i dont even understand how switch cases work btu they need to do comparisons too right

like to check if it si the right thing to jump to

[solemn latch]

Its good to understand them
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Statements/switch

[earnest phoenix]

using if else for command handling is generally an antipattern because commands (usually) have arguments and should be approached atomically

[tulip ledge]

app.get("/users/:userId", async(req, res) => {
  let user = await client.db.get(`user-${req.params.userId}`)
  if (user) return res.send(user);
  else return res.send("Test")
});

Why does it not send anything when user is undefined?

[latent heron]

I'm cool with debating the practical implementations of which to use

I just wish people gave a valid reason instead of opting to insulting others code.

[mellow kelp]

what is user?

[tulip ledge]

an object

[mellow kelp]

you probably wanna use res.json(user)

[placid iron]

so like reading it

[tulip ledge]

no no

that works

but

[placid iron]

it seems like its just an if else chain but cleaner

[tulip ledge]

if user is not defined it doesn't return anything

I'm making an API

[latent heron]

Yup

[mellow kelp]

o

[placid iron]

but with an optional break

[tulip ledge]

and I need to make it so when the id doesn't exist

[latent heron]

Thats the only main difference

[mellow kelp]

what does the database return if the user is not found?

you could console.log the user and check what value it has

[latent heron]

And the best part is all the beginner coders or skidders on the internet think that its superior in every way to else ifs

[placid iron]

yeah

[tulip ledge]

it returns undefined

[mellow kelp]

did you console.log it?

that should also make sure that the request handler is actually running too

[tulip ledge]

yes

[mellow kelp]

o

no idea then tbh

[tulip ledge]

FetchError: invalid json response body at http://127.0.0.1:3000/users/259776081316282368 reason: Unexpected token N in JSON at position 0 I don't get what this error means tho cause if I go into the browser it shows "Test"

[solemn latch]

"Test" isn't valid json

[earnest phoenix]

you should follow RESTful design for your APIs

it's a standard

[crimson vapor]

#development message

[vale juniper]

Hi,
I made a bot and I want to request all users with a specific role, but it doesn't show all of the users which have the role.
I looks like it only shows the users, which recently sent messages.

[latent heron]

Ah

Lines debate

[mellow kelp]

you need to enable the guild members intent @vale juniper

[latent heron]

My favorite

[young flame]

{
}

[latent heron]

Removing lines of code =/= memory allocation

[young flame]

thats json

[latent heron]

I think instead of saying It saves lines of code

Say it gives the code a more cleaner approach

[cinder patio]

Not really, under the hood most compilers use a table, which makes switch statements faster, of course it only becomes noticable when there are a ton of cases

[crimson vapor]

sorry

[young flame]

how are you getting the users

[latent heron]

All good

[crimson vapor]

saves duplicating code

[latent heron]

Yeah thats valid

[crimson vapor]

which is a big issue

one function breaks

[latent heron]

Especially when debugging

[crimson vapor]

not a big deal

[young flame]

what code gets dupliated?

lol

[latent heron]

Command structures

[young flame]

oh

[crimson vapor]

any permissions checks or cooldowns or shit that makes command handlers actually pog

[young flame]

aso assuming i use one file didn't help

assuming*

[latent heron]

Depends i think

[young flame]

i just don't use command handlers

[latent heron]

People usually do separate files to organize it

Command handlers are nice imo

[mellow kelp]

they are

[latent heron]

They make formatting commands really easy

[young flame]

i do separate my files

just

not with command handlers

[icy skiff]

Imagine you have ur code ready, then u find a bug after a couple of weeks without making significant changes on ur code, its really stressfull to find the issue on a messy code

[young flame]

don't they have like

[icy skiff]

But tbh

[young flame]

issue at line

[latent heron]

Hmmm

[icy skiff]

Just do whatever u feel most comfortable with

[young flame]

this line at this part

[crimson vapor]

the main reason command handlers are used is to increase performance (maps are faster than if/elseif), stop duplicating code, making shit very scalable, ex

[latent heron]

That argument is a little varying

Because the error is dependent

[young flame]

thanks

[crimson vapor]

yea

[young flame]

that's all i wanted to hear form you tbh

not its fine but its still shit

[icy skiff]

If it works it works

xd

[latent heron]

Tbh could care less if someone is coding their stuff in an impractical way or not. That person is gonna learn how to do better ways in the future

Its not like we all learned somewhere and that should be respected

[cinder patio]

There's nothing wrong with pointing out what can be done better, though

[icy skiff]

Criticism is always welcome yes

[latent heron]

The mutual sentiment I've seen from many programmers is as long as you give validity and provide reasoning through critical thinking as to why, then yeah

[icy skiff]

But sometimes it honestly does not matter

[latent heron]

Despite me using classes and cogs in d.py

I can still write messy code

Using organized methods won't make you an organized programmer

[icy skiff]

"Being organized" is subjective

[vale juniper]

message.guild.roles.cache.get(roleID).members.map((m) => m.user.id);

[cinder patio]

discord.js doesn't cache all members

You have to fetch all members in the guild in order to get all members which have a specific role afaik

(fetching all members is not a great idea)

[old cliff]

message.guild.members.cache.filter(m => m.roles.cache.has(roleID))```
try this

[cinder patio]

spoonfeeding much

[old cliff]

thats how people learn

editing complex code

to make it work

[cinder patio]

The code they gave already works, all they have to do is fetch all members

[old cliff]

wait... its correct ?

[young flame]

instad of get

use like

fetch

get is cache only i think

[old cliff]

yes

[young flame]

@vale juniper try fetch

if you get a fn.bind() error tell me

[old cliff]

I forgot role#members was a thing

[cinder patio]

Their problem isn't with the role, it's with the members. Fetching the role won't do anything, although it is a good practice to fetch it

[old cliff]

instead of fetching all members just set it so they are always in cache this way =>

const client = new Discord.client({fetchAllMembers: true})

[young flame]

lol

[old cliff]

although its not recommended

[vale juniper]

Okay, thank you I will try that

[young flame]

thats not good tho

[old cliff]

uses a lot of ram

[young flame]

it'll eay your ram

eat*

lol

[old cliff]

yeah

but I do it xD

cause I am too lazy to fetch all members

everytime

[mellow kelp]

i can practically hear the jet engine sound from your cpu

[old cliff]

also I store all guild invites

so it needs all members cached

to calculate who invited whom

[mellow kelp]

dammit vscode just crashed

[old cliff]

but I do this to reduce ram usage

so it balances out

[quartz kindle]

fetchAllMembers will be removed in v13

already removed from master

[cinder patio]

nice

[dire obsidian]

so

i was installing quick db

and this shows in npm

npm ERR! gyp ERR! stack Error: Cannot find module 'psl'

[old cliff]

whats the alternative ?

[quartz kindle]

fetching them yourself

[old cliff]

the error explains itself

[dire obsidian]

so

im dumb but

[old cliff]

but why is it being removed ?

[dire obsidian]

npm i psl?

[old cliff]

psl doesn't exist

[dire obsidian]

so

[old cliff]

so do npm i psl

[dire obsidian]

yes

[quartz kindle]

it was already not recommended, so i guess they dont want to support it. besides, their implementation is flawed, it doesnt respect gateway rate limits correctly

[old cliff]

nice...so that means I should just add fetch members to my loop which each 10 minutes fetches other stuff too?

[quartz kindle]

if you need to fetch all members just put it in the ready event

loop over guilds and fetch them for each guild

[old cliff]

yeah that is what i do

in ready event

after each 15 minutes

[quartz kindle]

you shouldnt need to fetch every 10 minutes, once for each guild should be enough

[old cliff]

what if the bot is added in another guild ?

[quartz kindle]

fetch on guildCreate

[old cliff]

that makes sense

time to edit code

[lyric mountain]

Yeah, like, just store member count somewhere then add or subtract it everytime someone joins or leaves

[quartz kindle]

good luck with ram usage tho :^)

[old cliff]

my bot needs that data to properly do invite tracking

[lyric mountain]

^

Just have a map of guild-members count

[solemn latch]

Is there actually any case which you 100% need every user cached?

[lyric mountain]

It'll be as precise as you can get

[young flame]

this

also hi sans

hi tim!

[quartz kindle]

i guess if you rely on memberUpdate a lot

[icy skiff]

Hey Tim

[mellow kelp]

hey tim

[icy skiff]

Any idea how to stablish a webhook that requires SSL?

[umbral zealot]

webhooks don't care about SSL, your web server does

[earnest phoenix]

a webhook is nothing more than just a HTTP request

^^

[lyric mountain]

Just check the address

If it's https then it's ssl mostly

[quartz kindle]

make your webserver support ssl, then change the url to https

[old cliff]

like clearing values in a database for all users in a guild

[solemn latch]

Track the users guilds

In the database itself

[icy skiff]

Im using Python's Flask trying to create a webhook with Patreon and it asks for https, ive already created a self signed SSL but Patreon says its an invalid certificate :/

[lyric mountain]

Self signed...

[earnest phoenix]

use certbot

[umbral zealot]

self-signed SSL certificates aren't valid

look at letsencrypt

free certs are easy

[old cliff]

I could implement that... nice idea

[icy skiff]

Ill take a look at that, thx

[opal plank]

erm, yes

[young flame]

aye you said yes, it must be true then

[latent heron]

this is an unpopular opinion

but i really hate discord bots that rely on you to vote as their way to rate limit their commands

that really gets me

[mellow kelp]

rate limit?

[latent heron]

yeah so like

imagine only getting to use a command once every 2 minutes or something

[mellow kelp]

o

[latent heron]

but if you vote for my bot, you get unlimited!!

like

that's dumb

no

[young flame]

lol

[latent heron]

if people like your service, they'll actually vote for your bot

it's not the other way around

[young flame]

true

[icy skiff]

Unfortunately, most people won't vote without getting something in return, even If they like ur bot

"too much work" u know

[latent heron]

i thought about it for my bot

my bot relies on an API that costs money so i thought

"i can present two options: 1. those who help donate money for my API fees get more perks,

or 2. if they vote once every 24 hours they get perks for that day"

but it feels so cheap

[mellow kelp]

i just kinda give some bot currency to people who vote

simple and works

[latent heron]

that's what i was thinking

maybe instead of limiting the potential use of it

maybe actually grant them new things to use for that limited time frame

[lyric mountain]

Streak system is the secret

[mellow kelp]

i also send them a dm saying that they got money

[icy skiff]

Ye my bot has a rolling system and I just give extra rolls for those who vote

[latent heron]

that will encourage them to go "shit i should keep voting for these perks i otherwise have to pay for"

[icy skiff]

Rate-limiting is kinda wack

[latent heron]

that's my current idea

[mellow kelp]

oh yeah streaks

[latent heron]

a streak system?

how would that work?

[mellow kelp]

i remember playing mobile games every day as a kid just because of the daily rewards

[lyric mountain]

Yeah, like

My bot is all about trading cards

[icy skiff]

Every vote in a roll gives more rewards?

[lyric mountain]

You need money to buy spawned cards

So the more you vote, the more you get per vote

[latent heron]

ohh so like

it multiplies per vote?

[modest maple]

ooh yeah

[lyric mountain]

Once you reach 7 day streak, you can redeem a gem

[latent heron]

shittt

[modest maple]

the stacking up vote stuff

[latent heron]

that's really smart

[modest maple]

is big stonks

[latent heron]

big stonk

[modest maple]

people have this anally retentive side of them that once they get a streak going they dont wanna loose it more than what the rewards are

[latent heron]

your idea is unironically good

[lyric mountain]

Which can be used to reroll your cards, make them foil, buy gif profile or buy an extra deck storage capacity

[modest maple]

its not really a new idea

[latent heron]

my thing is i need a motive to get people to vote

it's not about forcing at hand that i like

[modest maple]

its the idea behind almost every afk game

or every mobile game that has time limited progression

[lyric mountain]

Also, I periodically make raffles with each vote being a ticket

So people tend to be regulars on top.gg

[latent heron]

hmm

So my bot is a translation bot that uses DeepL API

[lyric mountain]

Nonetheless, ratelimiting commands with votes is dumb af

[latent heron]

By default a normal user can use 200 characters per message

There's no limit on a "daily character quota"

I intentionally did that to let users experiment with exploiting my limit on purpose

If you donate $1 on patreon you get 300 extra characters

but what if every vote I grant 50 extra characters?

[lyric mountain]

Well, first of all you must note that votes give u no money

[latent heron]

I know

[icy skiff]

Sorry to ask you that but how exactly did u do that patreon integration

[lyric mountain]

So you need a sustainable way to get income

[latent heron]

but the tradeoff is that voting gives reputability

which is what i need for ultimately any donations

[lyric mountain]

They have websockets

And apis

[latent heron]

don't get me started on it

the patreon api is so ass

[icy skiff]

Ik

[modest maple]

patron api sucks big time

[latent heron]

all you need to know is that it works for me 😂

[icy skiff]

That's why Ive been struggling with it

[modest maple]

thats why im writing a different system 😎

only issue is time 😔

[latent heron]

my bot's crux is character limits

because my API charges per character set

[lyric mountain]

Sorry but, more users won't mean more donations

[mellow kelp]

Why tho

[modest maple]

true

[lyric mountain]

You REALLY need to give them a very good reason to pledge

[latent heron]

if i let people at hand translate super huge messages i can lose money quickly

Yeah

[modest maple]

I help for a bot with 5k servers and it makes more than @robust trellis

[latent heron]

my problem is finding a good motive for pledging as a patron

[icy skiff]

The easiest way i thought about was using the patreon bot to give roles on the support server for patrons, and then giving the rewards for those who have the role

[latent heron]

i'm still trying to find ideas on that

[icy skiff]

It works but websockets should be better

[latent heron]

my method is that the patreon api auto-writes you into my bot DB for the new character limits and if you join the support server, you get autorole'd.

[lyric mountain]

I never really managed to implement a patreon integration with my bot

Like

Do they REALLY need to send the whole page's info on each request?

[icy skiff]

That's what i wanted to do but i Just cant integrate my bot with Patreon

[latent heron]

it's really hard

[lyric mountain]

A simple id-value-blablabla json would suffice

[latent heron]

patreon API is one of the hardest i've yet worked with

idk why they made it so difficult to make work

[opal plank]

did i hear shit yet complicated api?

[latent heron]

i use tinydb for exactly that

yup

patreon api in a nutshell

[lyric mountain]

Erwin, no, please

[opal plank]

heheheh time to break it

brb

[lyric mountain]

Don't talk about twitch

[latent heron]

NO

[lyric mountain]

Nooooooo

[latent heron]

TWITCH

[lyric mountain]

Too late, he'll talk about it

[opal plank]

look, im trying to find a competitor for the spot of worst big fucking api, ever. period.

[latent heron]

you know it's really bad when YouTube's video feed API is better than Twitch's overall API

[icy skiff]

Would u mind giving me a brief help in the dms with that integration? :/ Just like, How to get started bc i dont even know where to start

[latent heron]

Google Drive API is pretty bad

[modest maple]

I mean nothing beats google's

[opal plank]

nono

i've worked with both

twitch is worse

[modest maple]

nahh

[latent heron]

twitch api gives me anxiety

[lyric mountain]

What did I say?

[modest maple]

Google shitter than twitch

[opal plank]

ive spend around 5h using gmail integrations

twitch was a good 2 days of constant work

[lyric mountain]

Just no, twitch api is so gross that it's not actually an api but what we brazillian call "gambiarra"

[opal plank]

between the shitty docs and the wrong snippets without the proper necessary means to do requests, google was a lot better

[icy skiff]

Opa

[latent heron]

The DeepL API is surprisingly nice tho ngl

it's majorly HTTP request based but it's intuitive

https://github.com/vapourlabs/Transword/blob/main/cogs/api/DeepLAPI.py

[modest maple]

its very rare that you need WS for most api's

[latent heron]

this is the one i wrote

[modest maple]

only really for receiving events

[opal plank]

gambiarra is okay ish, this feels like os cara do barraco tem coisa mais bem feita type of deal

[latent heron]

that's true

websocks are pretty rare in APIs now

it's all about async http

[opal plank]

look, websockets are nice n shit

[modest maple]

i mean they've always been pretty rare

[opal plank]

but when your docs are straight up wrong

you get 403's a lot

half of their api is dependant on the older version

[modest maple]

they're awful to scale compared to regular HTTP

[opal plank]

which is deprecated

they didnt port half of the shit to the new lib

its insanely messy

currently at the n 1 spot of shittiest api's ive worked with

[lyric mountain]

Is there any other option with api than patreon or donatebot?

[latent heron]

i feel bad for twitch api wrapper devs

[opal plank]

not that i know of kuuhaku

[latent heron]

who try to do that for twitch bot stuff

that's torture

[modest maple]

Tabaxi™️ payment paltform™️ for bot devs™️

[opal plank]

yeah i wonder who would be stupid to create twitch bots

👀

[modest maple]

2022™️

[crimson vapor]

this

[modest maple]

[latent heron]

i feel like if twitch bots used the new twitch chat reply feature

they'd be so much cleaner and efficient

[lyric mountain]

Plot twist: twitch supports no bots at all, it's just regular user accounts

[opal plank]

getting hot here init?

[modest maple]

github intensifies

[opal plank]

idk if that was sarcastic, but in case it wasnt, thats a thing btw

twitch doesnt differentiate bots and user accounts

[latent heron]

also

synchronous requests for APIs aren't too bad

[crimson vapor]

Selfbot bro

[lyric mountain]

Ik

[latent heron]

unless you need multiple iterations being ran at the same time

then you fucked lmao

[lyric mountain]

Twitch is all about selfbotting

[modest maple]

twas you know the HTTP/1 protocol is synchronous

[crimson vapor]

discord isn’t

[opal plank]

though in fairness they varified my bot for special ratelimits within 4 days

so, that was nice

[latent heron]

i kinda wish twitch had something similar to discord's support for bots tbh

like the UI badge and shit

[opal plank]

already tried sirius

[latent heron]

it kind of does

[opal plank]

not happening

[latent heron]

yeah

[opal plank]

its been on hold for over a year

[latent heron]

twitch's method sucks ass

[opal plank]

i spoke to some twitch devs

like, internal staff

[lyric mountain]

Do you know what I wanted? Proper message control

[latent heron]

i mean what should we expect

[opal plank]

its not coming

[lyric mountain]

Like, delete 'n edit stuff

[latent heron]

we're dealing with people from a company that banned the word simp

[opal plank]

there is delete n stuff kuuhaku

its IRC based

[crimson vapor]

They banned simp?

why

[opal plank]

indeed

[latent heron]

simp, incel and virgin

all got banned

[crimson vapor]

that’s stupid

[latent heron]

if a big-time streamer says it then uhh

[modest maple]

cuz those 8 year olds dont want a toxic chat

[latent heron]

"toxicity of feminine streamers"

[opal plank]

not like we know the demographics is 99% horny teens, and not kids

[latent heron]

i made

good for female streamers that simps exist

[crimson vapor]

Yeah have you seen just chatting kekw

[latent heron]

but own up to it at least?

like anime weebs being called degenerates

just accept it lmao

[opal plank]

funny how simp is banned but calling someone a retard isnt

[lyric mountain]

Imagine streaming a gameplay of simpsons

****sons

[modest maple]

banned for nsfw name

[opal plank]

simpons? imagine south park gameplay

[crimson vapor]

What in the actual fuck

[latent heron]

Discord bans the word retard for partnered and higher servers.

but Twitch can't

[earnest phoenix]

whole lotta dev chat going on here

[crimson vapor]

yes

[opal plank]

indeed

[modest maple]

Boo!

[crimson vapor]

Want to join?

[opal plank]

we talking about twitch bots

[latent heron]

how can we develop a strap-on

[modest maple]

well

[latent heron]

so i can fuck twitch's ass sideways over?

[crimson vapor]

LOL

[modest maple]

stap-on wise

they differ so much

also there is so much engineering going into them

[latent heron]

are you owning up to pegging someone/being pegged CF?

[modest maple]

i did some work experience with a manufacture of them

[latent heron]

which one

was it the domination or being dominated

[modest maple]

Neither

[latent heron]

fuck

lucky

[placid iron]

[modest maple]

i was in design not testing

though the place i went didnt test them there

[latent heron]

being pegged is a confusing and rather painful experience

[modest maple]

😅 luckily for me

[latent heron]

anyhow

i hate twitch api a lot

[lyric mountain]

fuck is just luck but with arms and looking down

[latent heron]

thanks i hate it

now i cant unsee the imagination of the letter f fucking uck

[lyric mountain]

Wait until you discover resident evil 6

[latent heron]

I also am looking for code jockeys voluntary programmers who can help me with my project

but that won't ever happen

[old cliff]

if your code is not a mess.... its not code

[crimson vapor]

Nah

[west pine]

Plz help me making a ping command

@old cliff u asked me to come here plz help

[crimson vapor]

Long

[west pine]

I am very new

[crimson vapor]

Ling

[west pine]

I just started today

[misty sigil]

dont make a bot as a first porject

[odd stratus]

Did you learn the basics of that programming language before diving into a Discord library to make a bot

[west pine]

No I made a python programmer and a fractal code

This is a bot,so I am pretty new

[crimson vapor]

Are you the first trial?

[west pine]

This is the bot

[odd stratus]

I think so 🤔

[west pine]

Help me plz

[misty sigil]

with what bro

[west pine]

How to make ping command

In py

[crimson vapor]

Congrats

[odd stratus]

Read the documentation on how to get the bots latency?

[odd stratus]

Thanks 😊

[west pine]

I don't know where to find the docs

Do u mind sending the links

[west pine]

Ok

[icy skiff]

client.latency

But ye read the docs

[west pine]

@icy skiff ok,can u say if my code is good or not?

[icy skiff]

I mean i guess

[icy skiff]

Oh lord

Ok

Dont check for commands with the on_message

[west pine]

Then

[icy skiff]

Python makes command handling really easy

[west pine]

I followed a tut and now I am experimenting what I lesrnt

[thorny flume]

help

Shard 0's process exited before its Client became ready.

[icy skiff]

Just do
@commands.command()
async def(ctx):
// Ur command goes here

[west pine]

I did

I got an error

[icy skiff]

I highly suggest looking for another tut

[west pine]

Yea

But there not that many

I found 1 series

[icy skiff]

Ill send u the one i learnt discord.py then

Ill dm u them

[west pine]

Ok

Thnx

[earnest phoenix]

agree to dissagree

[spare portal]

when my bot joins a server it sends a welcome message like its supposed to, but if i kick it and add it back it doesnt say the message

is that supposed to happen?

[crimson vapor]

No.

[opal plank]

no

[crimson vapor]

@opal plank please inform them of the issue ty

All of them

[opal plank]

already did tell them the issue

its nothing related to development tho

[crimson vapor]

then they are lost

[odd stratus]

Make sure to fix whatever is crashing your bot otherwise your shard can't start

[opal plank]

being stubborn is the issue, not the code

[earnest phoenix]

whelp im prob not gonna change so.

[crimson vapor]

Just use mongoose it’s the exact same as json but safe and non-blocking

[opal plank]

shouldnt be asking for help if you arent willing to listen then

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[crimson vapor]

yo Erwin, you up for supplying me with some constructive criticism

[opal plank]

not rn, i gotta ditch in just a couple seconds

[quartz kindle]

yes erwin, criticize the shit out of him

:^)

[crimson vapor]

Alr

[opal plank]

be more than happy to trash all over your code later

prob ask @quartz kindle meanwhile

[crimson vapor]

Tim doesn’t know ts too well

Well not do I

[opal plank]

@quartz kindle learn ts and teach em'

all that while im gone

[crimson vapor]

Yes that would be pog

[mellow kelp]

tim the ts teacher

tttt

[quartz kindle]

i mean

i've never used ts, but i've learned a ton of it just from doing typings and watching people talk about it

[crimson vapor]

You up for reading my code?

[quartz kindle]

if you're up for some bashing, sure

:^)

[crimson vapor]

Always bro

https://github.com/Million900o/terano-rose

The big thing is the structure cuz idk how to structure code well ngl

[cinder patio]

No Readme

[latent heron]

readme is overrated

mine just points you to a website

[quartz kindle]

any specific part you want reviewing?

[latent heron]

oh shit

[quartz kindle]

lots of files in there

[latent heron]

@cinder patio you made a programming lang?

[quartz kindle]

google made google

:^)

[latent heron]

well no

because

[cinder patio]

yeah, mafiascript, it's kinda shit tho

[latent heron]

i've done the same thing too

[crimson vapor]

File structure is the big thing but also anything in the bot/src/lib

[latent heron]

i made my own lang to see how it would work out

https://github.com/goverfl0w/Diamond

[quartz kindle]

you mean src/bot/lib? xd

[cinder patio]

nice

[crimson vapor]

Shit yes

xD

[latent heron]

my code is worse lmao

[cinder patio]

Mine's not statically-typed

[crimson vapor]

saw nothing ok?

[latent heron]

but it had a working lexer, feeder, and error

ahh i see

[cinder patio]

and it's also written in c++

[earnest phoenix]

Using slappey where do I edit code in the files to add commands?

[latent heron]

i have more works but they're mainly gists

[cinder patio]

the first time I really used c++ for a serious project

[thorny flume]

@odd stratus I don't know what's wrong with the code

[earnest phoenix]

i asked for help with a diffrent thing smh

Is it under commands ;-;

[cinder patio]

I also got lazy with the parser so I just used bison and yacc

[latent heron]

@hushed berry i hope this gives you anxiety https://gist.github.com/goverfl0w/6fe47c4c8676f650d7675296ced771f8

I found my PHP database script you were talking about

[quartz kindle]

@crimson vapor this could make use of fs.promises and also withFileTypes is your friend

[thorny flume]

const { ShardingManager } = require('discord.js');

const manager = new ShardingManager('./index.js', {

  totalShards: 'auto', 

  token: process.env.TOKEN
});

manager.spawn({ time: 180000 });

manager.on('shardCreate', (shard) => console.log(`Shard ${shard.id} launched`));

[earnest phoenix]

screw you tim ||im joking if you need a spoiler on that||

[quartz kindle]

xD

[odd stratus]

You should get a full error telling what is causing a crash

[hushed berry]

go away 😡

[latent heron]

: )

pls dont block me nik

[thorny flume]

@odd stratus

const { ShardingManager } = require('discord.js');

const manager = new ShardingManager('./index.js', {

  totalShards: 'auto', 

  token: process.env.TOKEN
});

manager.spawn({ time: 180000 });

manager.on('shardCreate', (shard) => console.log(`Shard ${shard.id} launched`));

[crimson vapor]

Ah right I heard about that once but idk much about it

[quartz kindle]

require("fs/promises") or require("fs").promises

then await readdir(folder, { withFileTypes: true })

withFileTypes gives you DirEnt objects instead of file names

Dirent contains a method isFolder()

so no need to use stats to see if they are folders or not

[crimson vapor]

Ah

[odd stratus]

Just tried your version and it gives an error like "The amount of shards option must be a number". Try something like this instead:

[crimson vapor]

Tim if you say anything else link the message in dms cuz my phone is almost dead

[earnest phoenix]

that moment when you know nothing about JS but know java so you just go in guessing. I mean just looking at the code it seems easy to read so, easy language???

[thorny flume]

ok @odd stratus

[odd stratus]

Ehh depends on what you're trying to make imo and how much you know

Hmm I should try making a bot in TypeScript

[modest maple]

Knowing one language well makes learning every language after that alot easier

[earnest phoenix]

basically, any rule java has, you can throw it out of the window, welcome to the crack of programming

hey tim seriously tho why isnt this logging?
#development message

seems like you would know

[earnest phoenix]

yea i came from java

js seems like a breath of fresh air

[odd stratus]

Definitely ⬆️

[crimson vapor]

Are you ok?

THATS FUKCING SYNC

not a callback

[earnest phoenix]

no errors hollering at me every time i space something wierd

[modest maple]

Man you gotta have gone through some shit to say that lmao

[earnest phoenix]

I know the basics

[latent heron]

if it makes you guys feel better

i spent a majority of my programming career knowing only PHP

[earnest phoenix]

I just wrote a new command to speak. Is using Slappey a good idea?

[latent heron]

and learned every other lang off of my PHP knowledge

[earnest phoenix]

then again i learned java in my school robotics program witch i quit cuz i couldnt take the demanded detication so...

[modest maple]

I generally would pick rust over c#, c# over java and java over js

[latent heron]

i've been in hell's programming language

to know the pain of it 😂

[earnest phoenix]

ok so how do i do it proper

g-code is something i never want to see in my life again

[crimson vapor]

g-code?

[crimson vapor]

Docs

[earnest phoenix]

geometric code

widely used for operating cnc machines

[spare portal]

how do you get the thumbnail to appear in an embed? im using a direct imgur link

[earnest phoenix]

discord or imgur have been having issues so the images don't show for whatever reason

[crimson vapor]

Ah

[spare portal]

oh okay

[earnest phoenix]

try using another image hoster

[earnest phoenix]

that code is pretty much what i got from the docs lmao

[spare portal]

would it work if i used my own custom url?

[earnest phoenix]

don't know

So me being a idiot and doesnt know what hes doing wrote this.....and it doesnt work🤣

Im a certified idiot

cause what do I do 😦

lmao i have no idea

im a certified idiot too

[thorny flume]

@odd stratus I use repl.it and this host has the index.js folder already generated and cannot be deleted or renamed. I put the fragment code in the index.js file to be started first and then I extracted the code that runs my bot, it didn't give an error, but it only gave the console (fragment 0 released)

[earnest phoenix]

but i do diffrently

Yeah im using slappey lol

And the test command works so I copied it 2 times, first by typing, then by ctrl C and V

and it doesnt work

See certified idiot

nvm

i am a real idiot

XD

You know how you trn your computer on and off again, i forgot to save! Sorry for wasting time

=[

[odd stratus]

So did the new code work or no

[earnest phoenix]

i put my bot on a new server and it takes like 3-5 seconds for it to send a message back

[thorny flume]

yes @odd stratus

@odd stratus I think the error was not in the code, but in the way I put in the files the shards have to start first that the client

[earnest phoenix]

i put my bot on a new server and it takes like 3-5 seconds for it to send a message back

[thorny flume]

thank you so much for your help helped me a lot

[quartz kindle]

writeFileSync does not have callbacks, its a synchronous function

it either returns, or it throws an error

[restive furnace]

corrupted heap errors be my bae

[sand salmon]

how i do to get user by id, but user is not on a guild
discord.js

[stark abyss]

setTimeout(reset, midnightTime())
 function reset(){
    setInterval(function(){ 
      var d = new Date();
      var today = d.getDay();
      if(today == 6){
        //weekly reset here
      }
      //daily reset here
    }, 86400000);
}
function midnightTime() {
  var midnight = new Date();
  midnight.setHours( 24 );
  midnight.setMinutes( 0 );
  midnight.setSeconds( 0);
  midnight.setMilliseconds( 0 );
  return (midnight.getTime() - new Date().getTime());
}

This is what I have right now, but the problem is that setInterval function runs after that milliseconds so it will skip the first time the function is called I don't know how to fix this

[stark abyss]

<client>.users.fetch(user id)

[restive furnace]

put that reset function inside setTimeout

[sand salmon]

thanks bro

[stark abyss]

probably wanna await it

[stark abyss]

okay

[earnest phoenix]

that isn't going to fix the issue though

it's still going to run after the interval hits that amount of ms

make the callback of setTimeout its own function

call the function outside of the setTimeout

then pass the function to setTimeout

[stark abyss]

if I call the function outside of the timeout it won't be consistently at midnight no?

[earnest phoenix]

i'm confused as to what your goal is

execute it at exactly midnight?

[stark abyss]

I am trying to have it do something once every day at midnight, and once a week at midnight as well

yeah

[earnest phoenix]

you need to calculate the time until midnight, put that in a setTimeout

[stark abyss]

yeah that's what the midnightTime() is

[stark abyss]

yeah I think I am doing this

the reset function gets executed midnight, but because of setInterval the code inside waits 24 hours more to be executed

I don't want that, I want it to be executed immediately when the reset function is called but I also want it to repeat everyday

[earnest phoenix]

//pseudo
//copypasting this won't work

function intervalfunc() {
  return "pp";
}

function reset() {
  setTimeout(() => {
    intervalFunc();
    setInterval(intervalFunc, that big ass number);
  }, midnightTime());
}

in this context, reset should only be called once

[stark abyss]

oh

that's what you meant

okay that looks good thank you

[young scroll]

helo how could i do one !givemoney bot?

[earnest phoenix]

pray to discord gods

[pale vessel]

pp

[earnest phoenix]

oh i thought i had done the async version smh

whelp thanks for pointing out my stupid

[quaint wasp]

guys

And yall kept telling me dont do sharding till I get like 1k servers or so

And I only had 11

welp..

look at this:

[restive furnace]

callback version*

async != callback != sync

if you'd want the async version: js const fs = require("fs/promises"); //... use fs like here normally except await it, but why though if you're not processing files in P A R A R E L L

[cinder patio]

You can shard anytime, but you get no benefit from it, even worse - you have multiple websocket clients, which use way more resources

[quartz kindle]

technically the callback version is async

everything that is not sync is async

promises are just a form of async

[quaint wasp]

oh

[restive furnace]

but if you use lots of callbacks, it's c a l l b a c k h e l l then

[earnest phoenix]

thats where i was going lol

[solemn latch]

#commands

[earnest phoenix]

what is it even saying is wrong

too high a vocab

[earnest phoenix]

lmao i have just under 100 servers and i only pentalize from single threaded at the very start when it sorts data and prob async would fix that some

hence why im rewriting

[cinder patio]

You cannot use let/const in a let statement without a code block

for example:

if (expression) let a = 50;

Is wrong, because a will never be accessible

[earnest phoenix]

hmmm ok ty

[sudden geyser]

An example would be using a let statement after an if block without the braces. Without the braces, a block like that will only accept 1 statement.

[earnest phoenix]

if(!fs.readdirSync(this.dir).some(d => d == "data.json")){
            let  data = {
                "joinMessage": "[user.ping] has joined, using invite [invite], created by [inviter.ping] who has [inviter.total] invites.",
                "leaveMessage": "`[user.tag]` has left, [inviter.ping] now has [inviter.total] invites.",
                "banMessage": "[user.name] was dumb and got themselves the big ban hammer. [inviter.ping] now has [inviter.invites] invites.",
                "embed": false,
                "joinchannel": null,
                "leavechannel": null
            }
            fs.writeFile(this.dataDir, JSON.stringify(data, null, 2), (err) => { 
                if (err) throw err;
                console.log('Saved file to' + this.dataDir);
            })
        }```

so i have code

[cinder patio]

aaaand?

[earnest phoenix]

shouldnt that make the code valid

[cinder patio]

try it, looks good to me

[earnest phoenix]

thats the code thats erroring tho

[cinder patio]

that code looks correct, are you sure it's coming from there?

[earnest phoenix]

positive

it says line 28 in that file

that is line 28

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/272764566411149314/812774342588235835/zx.png

[cinder patio]

That's really odd

[earnest phoenix]

thats me

i get the wierdest errors

my discord bot is delayed by atleast 5 seconds

any recommendations

i have a good enough server\

it could be the code

or something

idk

@earnest phoenix if you have a lot of startup items it will take a moment

mine almost takes a minute and its running on a 9700k

[solemn latch]

sounds like its commands taking 5 seconds

[earnest phoenix]

^^

@cinder patio figured it out. i had a double space between let and data

[solemn latch]

ratelimited?

[earnest phoenix]

bot is delayed a bit

could be

i have no idea why

[cinder patio]

That can't be the problem

you probably forgot to save or something, because there's no way the error is coming from there. The error only occurs if you have the following:

if (...) let ...
for (...) let ...

And I highly doubt an empty space would cause such an error

[earnest phoenix]

i removed the space and it worked

and yes it was saved

hmmm yes exe not sus at all

huh

[earnest phoenix]

send the exe out here in public

why you keep del.eting

i gotrchu

in a rar

this isnt that exe

@earnest phoenix send the executable file

tha you uploaded in my dms

there dm it to me

[cinder patio]

[earnest phoenix]

yea idfk

[rustic nova]

@earnest phoenix Don't share things here that could potentially be malicious. This is your only warning.

Even if it wasn't malicious, just don't do it

[earnest phoenix]

(node:3304) UnhandledPromiseRejectionWarning: Error: ENOENT: no such file or directory, open './db/data/guilds/731342408293285928/members/627660958499864586.json'

i dont understand my life

[cinder patio]

json database moment

[earnest phoenix]

can you link the attachment to me

i'm interested in what it is lol

[earnest phoenix]

he deleted it

damn

i got hxd and IDA ready lmfao

[sage bobcat]

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[earnest phoenix]

shoot it

[modest maple]

[sage bobcat]

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[earnest phoenix]

hi guys

[sage bobcat]

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[earnest phoenix]

1.a - well this is kind of invalid because you cannot assign a static class to a variable
1.b - no, you should avoid the static pattern in the first place, it defeats the point of OOP and creates god classes. you should have something like ```cs
public class Facts
{

private YourDeserializer _deserializer;

public Facts()
{
//fill the data here
//i.e
_deserializer = new Deserializer();
}
}

//in another file
internal class Deserializer
{
//you get the point
}

//in end user's code
var facts = new Facts();
facts.GetRandomFact();

1.c - use json if you're having dynamic content, otherwise just fill the array manually
2 - yes, the less dependencies the better, the only excuse is that the system.text.json is garbage in some cases so you could use newtonsoft's json package

Error [ERR_HTTP_HEADERS_SENT]: Cannot set headers after they are sent to the client

why i get this error?

did you read it

yea?

so, what do you not understand about it

how could i fix it?

🤷‍♂️

that error is worth dogshit when you don't provide your code

[sage bobcat]

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[mellow kelp]

you're probably sending a response after already having sent another one

[sage bobcat]

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[earnest phoenix]

do public class, not static

[sage bobcat]

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[earnest phoenix]

this also allows super easy integration with DI

[sage bobcat]

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[earnest phoenix]

yes

[sage bobcat]

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[slender wagon]

 for (const warning of results.warnings) {
          const { author, timestamp, reason } = warning
          reply += `By ${author} for "${reason}". ${timestamp}\n\n` 
        }


        message.reply(reply)
        const embed = new MessageEmbed()
        .setAuthor(`Warnings for ${target.username}#${target.discriminator}`)
        .setThumbnail(message.guild.iconURL())
        .setTitle(`Warnings`)
        .setColor(`YELLOW`)
        .addField(`${reply}`, 'hi')
        .setFooter(`Boop!`)
    
         message.channel.send(embed);

This is a command that lists the warnings for a certain user. But embed field seems to be limited at 256 chars, is there a way i could get through this?

[sage bobcat]

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[earnest phoenix]

for context

//an example
var services = new ServiceCollection();

services.AddSingleton<ASuperCoolService>
        .AddSingleton<Facts>();

this is an example of a proper pattern

[sage bobcat]

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[slender wagon]

yeah i see but like what could i do to send the warning lists

[sage bobcat]

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[slender wagon]

to list it on descritpion?

[sage bobcat]

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[slender wagon]

i should list the warnings on the desc?

[sage bobcat]

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[slender wagon]

alright i'll try that real quick ty

[sage bobcat]

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[slender wagon]

yeah i can set a limit on the warnings displayed or something

[sage bobcat]

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[slender wagon]

aightys ty

[earnest phoenix]

the method would exist in the class

//example
public class Facts
{
  private Random _random;

  public Facts()
  {
    //...
  }

  public Fact GetRandomFact()
    => _facts[_random...];
  
}

[sage bobcat]

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[lyric mountain]

errr no

[slender wagon]

ikr i'll set a max of warns a user can have for sure, i am not gonna fill my db with warnings

[sage bobcat]

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[lyric mountain]

embed body can go up to 2048 chars, fields up to 1024

[sage bobcat]

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[lyric mountain]

hard limit is somewhere near 4k iirc

[earnest phoenix]

6k

[sage bobcat]

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[earnest phoenix]

you then don't need it

[sage bobcat]

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[earnest phoenix]

it was just an example of how you should structure your class fields

[sage bobcat]

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[earnest phoenix]

thx bro :>

i checked the code

and i had

if(test1){
  res.render('tst')
}
if(test2){
  res.render('tst')
}

or something like that

and both relations was true so yea

thank you for idea

:}

[slender wagon]

that did the job properly ty!

[earnest phoenix]

How to I setup the bank part of a bot?

[summer torrent]

bank part?

[earnest phoenix]

Like how ZeroTwo tracks your coins and gives them to you for doing ZT! Work?

[lime current]

node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:926
throw err;
^

Error: Cannot find module 'discord.js'
Require stack:

• C:\Users\Admin\bot\index.js
  ←[90m at Function.Module._resolveFilename (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:923:15)←[39m
  ←[90m at Function.Module._load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:768:27)←[39m
  ←[90m at Module.require (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:995:19)←[39m
  ←[90m at require (node:internal/modules/cjs/helpers:92:18)←[39m
  at Object.<anonymous> (C:\Users\Admin\bot\index.js:1:17)
  ←[90m at Module._compile (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1091:14)←[39m
  ←[90m at Object.Module._extensions..js (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1120:10)←[39m
  ←[90m at Module.load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:971:32)←[39m
  ←[90m at Function.Module._load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:812:14)←[39m
  ←[90m at Function.executeUserEntryPoint [as runMain] (node:internal/modules/run_main:76:12)←[39m {
  code: ←[32m'MODULE_NOT_FOUND'←[39m,
  requireStack: [ ←[32m'C:\Users\Admin\bot\index.js'←[39m ]
  }

help

[earnest phoenix]

Is that starting the bot?

[lime current]

yes

I added new options and then went back and the bot broke

[earnest phoenix]

I had to redo my entire bot to fix it

I think you might have messed up something in the slappey files but idk

[lime current]

ok

[earnest phoenix]

I got the same problem with loader.js. Still didn't fix it.

Super annoying

[lime current]

yes