made a bunch of servers?
#development
spiral crag
he thought he was supporting my bot
fathom slate
Why didn't anyone help me: <
spiral crag
by adding it to new servers
umbral zealot
Well let him know he's not!
smoky herald
hmmm, if one of my shards crashes on like an undefined variable or whatever, it just autorestarts, it doesn't really feel right to keep the app running with an error in there ๐
gilded olive
if that's the case you can edit the file, save it and then restart that shard manually?
smoky herald
not sure who is misunderstanding ๐ the problem is, if the error gets to the real bot even through testing on dev version and a crash appears, it basically keeps running with that error still in code, not shutting down
gilded olive
tho undefined variable sounds like that would be global scale
if you have a real bot in prod any testing should be done on a clone
tho I don't understand "it basically keeps running with that error still in code, not shutting down"
cinder patio
you could detect when the error occurs and shut down the process (process.exit())
crimson vapor
so does it stop working?
it seems to me like instead of shutting down, it just logs the error
smoky herald
tho I don't understand "it basically keeps running with that error still in code...
nah, I just had a piece of commented code from past which was prepared for the future but unmodified for the principle, what I'm trying to get to know by that is how I should handle it
discordjs sharding manager makes it autorestart and keeps running it with that error, canceling all collectors in progress, if it would be a frequent error, I don't think restarting each 5 minutes would be good for users ๐
the testing is done on dev version, but what if the error gets in the prod version
crimson vapor
which is what is supposed to happen to stop the bot from restarting 100 times
crimson vapor
and you want it to not?
smoky herald
doesn't crash the whole app nor the specific shard
crimson vapor
stop
smoky herald
I think I should not right? restarting the shard shuts all the active collectors for all users
crimson vapor
you just said it reboots the shard
smoky herald
I'd rather deal with few hours blackout ig
crimson vapor
now you say it doesn't crash nor reboot
you can catch all errors or unhanded rejections
fathom slate
If I send a message containing 'name', can the bot reply 'You name Seku' ???
crimson vapor
if message.includes('name') message.channel.send('Your name is' + message.author.username)
gilded olive
yea you shouldn't restart the shard on every error
crimson vapor
depends on what type of error
earnest phoenix
!bid
fathom slate
if message.includes('name') message.channel.send('Your name is' + message.author...
ohh thank very much
crimson vapor
if its the ws dying, might want to restart
smoky herald
now you say it doesn't crash nor reboot
I guess I formatted that incorrectly, it throws the error and reboots the shard
I think I should rather crash the whole app when that occurs, right?
my sharding manager has CLI --unhandled-rejections=warn, but undefined variable isn't a rejection, right?
crimson vapor
assuming you don't have a reconnection ws
crimson vapor
I guess I formatted that incorrectly, it throws the error and reboots the shard
...
there are 2 ways, you can catch in an area to prevent an error ex. try/catch blocks or .catch() on promises
you could also do process.on('unhandledException', console.error) and it would error but not crash
they may have unexpected side-effects though
smoky herald
so I could do like
process.on('unhandledException', process.exit())
to shut the whole app (all shards) when an error like that occurs?
as said, I don't wanna keep it running when an error other than rejection occurs
cinder patio
send a message to the master process, which then sends a message to all shards, and when a shard receives said message, process.exit() is called
crimson vapor
so I could do like
```
process.on('unhandledException', process.exit())
```
to s...
that should only restart the one shard I think, im not familiar with djs sharding
cinder patio
yes only the shard in which the error occured
cinder patio
send a message to the master process, which then sends a message to all shards, ...
^ to close all shards
smoky herald
alright, I'll give it a try, thank you ๐
snow urchin
why is an empty array being logged?
shy turret
let container = docker.getContainer(id);
container.exec({
AttachStdin: true,
AttachStdout: true,
AttachStderr: false,
Cmd: ["-it", "echo", command]
}).then(exec => {
exec.start( { hijack: true, stdin: true } );
});
I've been playing with dockerode, but I can't seem to find a way to execute a (Minecraft server) command using it.
Is there any way to send (Minecraft server) commands using dockerode?
command is "stop"
There's no errors, but it doesn't work.
I could start/stop/kill/view the console/list all servers with dockerode though.
earnest phoenix
the owner isn't granted to be in cache
earnest phoenix
fetch the owner using the owner id
earnest phoenix
my internet's taking a shit so i can't browse the docs
spiral crag
how do i do that
agile lance
see fetching owner doesnt work half the time fir me
message.guild.owner returns undefined as well lol
spiral crag
how do i fetch someone with their id
crimson vapor
you need to format it
earnest phoenix
how do i fetch someone with their id
dusky sundial
message.guild.owner returns undefined as well lol
Maybe you need intents? How big is your bot?
agile lance
Maybe you need intents? How big is your bot?
246+ servers, verified with the server member intent
quartz kindle
await guild.members.fetch(guild.ownerID)
agile lance
but without the server member intent (on my next bot being released) I can fetch guild owner np
fathom slate
you need to format it
can you give me the full code or documentation about this?
fathom slate
crimson vapor
so you would have to understand what you were doing
fathom slate
yes
agile lance
Ok so think of it like this in java
if (this happens) { this happens }
Read it as: If ( I do this) then this happened
earnest phoenix
reading the docs will give you more clarification
agile lance
Its kinda like when doing math equations you need to put ( and ) at the start and end of the statement
say for like
dusky sundial
I do recommend learning proper syntax and some basic coding before delving into making a discord bot though
agile lance
Date.now() - 100, You would put it like (Date.now() - 100), same thing with if statements you have to put it in parentheses
agile lance
I do recommend learning proper syntax and some basic coding before delving into ...
Agreed
earnest phoenix
Date.now() - 100, You would put it like (Date.now() - 100), same thing with if s...
๐ this is not quite correct
the latter part is
but you don't need parenthesis in the former example
agile lance
parentheses are recommended when doing the math
Because, Without the parentheses I get NaN alot
earnest phoenix
sure
fathom slate
earnest phoenix
for complicated operations
agile lance
for complicated operations
Well I wouldnโt call the message timestamp being subtracted from Date.now() complicated
earnest phoenix
exactly
ergo parenthesis are obsolete in that example
I need some opinions.
So currently, i'm in the process of coding another bot named GameCord.
It will include an economy... Since there's nothing huge to it, in my opinion, I believe that a local SQLite file will be fine for storing the data.
Since users will only earn cash when using commands and not chatting, I don't believe concurrency should be an issue.
I don't want to have to use MongoDB or any other database since it's not really worth the effort when all I store is wallet balance and bank balance.
Can I get some opinions on this?
pale vessel
Sounds good
earnest phoenix
So it should be fine?
earnest phoenix
Okay, thank you.
pure lion
Especially for discord bots ^^
pure lion
Big databases, SQL or nosql based, are generally way overkill for discord bots
It's realistic to store as little as possible too
earnest phoenix
Oh, well SQLite is super easy to implement, but tbh so is mongo, but mongo isn't really worth it
That's the only two db's I know how to use atm ๐
Should I also make regular backups of the SQLite file?
pure lion
Where do you host?
quartz kindle
im using sqlite as well
pure lion
Yeah
pure lion
Nah but it's not like the file will just disappear
quartz kindle
i back it up daily
pure lion
It's not a JSON database, it won't corrupt as often
quartz kindle
and delete backups older than 5 days
earnest phoenix
Tbh, i'd rather back the SQLite file itself rather than everything
pure lion
I auto backup 3 times a day because I bash 8)
quartz kindle
sqlite has a built in backup function
pure lion
Kinda redundant for nosql but who cares
quartz kindle
once per day
pure lion
Doesn't really matter
earnest phoenix
Do you manually do it or do you have a script?
quartz kindle
i use the built in function, with extra code to delete past backups
pure lion
earnest phoenix
lmao
pure lion
The timgineer
earnest phoenix
lmao
quartz kindle
quartz kindle
sure
earnest phoenix
legend, thank you
quartz kindle
which npm module are you using for sqlite?
earnest phoenix
sqlite3
quartz kindle
use better-sqlite3
pure lion
"it's just better"
quartz kindle
^
earnest phoenix
Is it the same format or is it different?
quartz kindle
idk, never used sqlite3
the api should be different because better-sqlite3 is synchronous
no callbacks
quartz kindle
enmap keeps a copy of everything in memory
old cliff
use josh then
earnest phoenix
evie.codes fan lol
pure lion
why use a wrapper when you can get skillz
old cliff
it saves time
pure lion
get realโข๏ธ
earnest phoenix
innitโข๏ธ
old cliff
sometimes you should be lazy
pure lion
no u
quartz kindle
sqlite is super easy to use tho
old cliff
and use packages available
earnest phoenix
It really is lmao
just setup a simple CRUD operation and ur sorted
ran from expressjs
How many operations can sqlite handle at one given time, any idea?
queries*
earnest phoenix
So a bot which is in like 10,000 would be fine?
If it only gets the user from the database when they use a command
And not when a message is sent
earnest phoenix
Oh damn, that's smart
quartz kindle
i have a db with about 27k rows
earnest phoenix
Whats your bot?
quartz kindle
the file is about 15mb
bot's name is "Astrobot"
with lowercase b, there is another bot with the same name but uppercase B on top.gg
lol
earnest phoenix
yes
can anyone help
me wiht my bot
ew
what a nerd, copying bot names
me learning java currenly
hello
Learn JS, not Java ๐
pale vessel
no
earnest phoenix
java in 2021 is only useful for minecraft modding 
pale vessel
how about neither
earnest phoenix
java in 2021 is only useful for minecraft modding <:KEKW:727825308404940800>
tru dat
quartz kindle
@earnest phoenix running a non-indexed LIKE %% query that matched 7k rows took 50-200ms
earnest phoenix
oh wow
quartz kindle
running count(*) takes 0.3ms - 1ms
glacial pagoda
name: 'memberinfo',
description: "COMMANDS!",
execute(message, args, Discord) {
const usernamemention = messagearg.username;
const avatarmention = messagearg.avatarURL({ dynamic:true });
const idmention = messagearg.id;
const tagmention = messagearg.tag;
const lastmessagemention = messagearg.lastMessage;
const Statusmessagemention = messagearg.presence.status;
const messagearg = message.mentions.members.first();
if(messagearg){
const infoembed = new Discord.MessageEmbed()
.setColor('RANDOM')
.setTitle(`**${usernamemention}'s Information**`)
.setAuthor(`${usernamemention}`, `${avatarmention}`, `${avatarmention}`)
.setDescription(`Every Bit Of Detail About ${messagearg}!`)
.setThumbnail(`${avatarmention}`)
.addFields(
{name: '**Username:**', value: `**${usernamemention}**`, inline: true},
{name: '**User Tag:**', value: `**${tagmention}**`, inline: true},
{name: '**User Id:**', value: `**${idmention}**`, inline: true},
{name: '**Status:**', value: `**${Statusmessagemention}**`, inline: true},
{name: '**Last Message:**', value: `**${lastmessagemention}**`, inline: true},
)
.setImage(`.avatarmention}`)
.setTimestamp()
.setFooter('I Told You, Every Detail...', `${avatarmention}`);
message.channel.send(infoembed);
}
}
}```Help
I Want The Bot To Take The First Person Mentioned After Command And Put It In The Embed
I got This Error Doe
quartz kindle
glacial pagoda
Yeah
Im trying To Put The person There And The String To Get The personed mention's usename
quartz kindle
if you did not understand what im pointing out
you're trying to use messagearg before you create it, when it still doesnt exist
the order of variables matters
quartz kindle
yes
quartz kindle
the only place where it doesnt matter is when creating functions using the function keyword
for everything else it matters
quartz kindle
message.mentions.members.first() returns a member
members do not have .avatarURL()
only users have
glacial pagoda
oh
quartz kindle
you can convert a member to a user using member.user
glacial pagoda
ok
crimson vapor
Tim do you know some ts?
I am trying to export an enum or something similar as part of a class
glacial pagoda
soconst messagearg2 = message.mentions.user.first();
const avatarmention = messagearg2.avatarURL({ dynamic:true });
That Tim?
quartz kindle
also possible yes
crimson vapor
ex. Class.x would be the enum so I can do Class.x.TRUE and get 1
glacial pagoda
Ok
crimson vapor
how should I do that @quartz kindle
glacial pagoda
ok
crimson vapor
I don't exactly have any cod
cinder patio
I am trying to export an enum or something similar as part of a class
No point really. There is a way, but the enum cannot be a const one
cinder patio
You should just put the enum in the same file the class is in and export it
crimson vapor
I need to export it as part of the classs
quartz kindle
something like this should work no? ```js
enum bla {
...
}
export class abc {
static x: bla
}
I could do js this.x = { "TRUE": true, "FALSE": false } in the constructor but then its not typed
I would prefer to keep everything part of the main class
I don't think I can do that Tim
lemme try
cinder patio
then.. you'd do this:
enum Smth {
A,
B,
C
}
class A {
x: typeof Smth
constructor() {
this.x = Smth;
}
}
ye but he wants it as a static prop
not on the instance
i think
you want to access MyClass.x? or a = new MyClass(); a.x?
crimson vapor
new
cinder patio
Then
enum Smth {
A,
B,
C
}
class A {
static x = Smth;
}
its already an instance
quartz kindle
ah then do google's first answer
crimson vapor
I think yours actually will work GoogleFeud
cinder patio
both of mine will work cause I tested them
but I just find it super unnecessary
just export the enum and make it const
100% more efficient, slightly different code
frigid warren
is there anyone who knows the pass array argument to the broadCastEval in discord.js
feral aspen
// server.mutedRole = Mute Role ID
const muterole = message.guild.roles.cache.get(server.mutedRole);
if(mutee.roles.cache.has(muterole)) {
embedError.setDescription(`${mutee.user.username} is already muted!`);
return message.channel.send(embedError);
};
Not returning...
grizzled raven
@quartz kindle solve this :)
mellow kelp
probably p was undefined by the time you assigned it to e
wait that doesn't make sense either
grizzled raven
no
mellow kelp
oh shit
lyric mountain
man, I wish this was possible
grizzled raven
if i press up arrow, await p and const e = await p isnt present in history
mellow kelp
whoa
lyric mountain
unfortunately I didn't find a way to load a text from another site and apply styles to it
all I can do is iframe it
which looks shit
mellow kelp
kekw
quartz kindle
if it isnt present in history it means it rever returned, it awaiting forever
quartz kindle
therefore the const e also never took place
earnest phoenix
life is a simulation
mellow kelp
can you use await in the console?
it didn't seem to output errors but like
it doesn't halt the console
quartz kindle
the console runs with top-level async enabled
quartz kindle
something node has been promising to do for a while but never did lul
mellow kelp
kek
grizzled raven
den though there's deno
mellow kelp
ah yes, deno
mellow kelp
ah yes, deno
'node'.split('').sort().join('')
earnest phoenix
something node has been promising to do for a while but never did lul
doesn't node 15 have top level async?
mellow kelp
node 15 isn't stable yet anyways
mellow kelp
latest stable version is 14.x.x
earnest phoenix
it's fairly stable
mellow kelp
hmm
mellow kelp
can we make a bot in java
yes you can
earnest phoenix
ok
mellow kelp
use the JDA library
earnest phoenix
are you also making a bto
no
it's an AI to conquer the world
humanity will cease to exist
quartz kindle
also doesnt work in a file
earnest phoenix
ok
quartz kindle
fluid crown
earnest phoenix
it does support html
mellow kelp
html is supported
earnest phoenix
where you making the bot @quartz kindle
fluid crown
Not for servers 
earnest phoenix
oh
well
markdown is an easy to use alternative to html so you can't really use css in markdown
i hate typing on mobile
fluid crown
Fair enough; Markdown just doesn't seem to support what I'm trying to achieve. This is what it looks like:
The top image is a slideshow of various background images with the logo on top; there's buttons and whatnot for nav.
I don't think markdown supports this, but I could be super wrong.
grizzled raven
there seems to be something i need to do in order for it to resolve
OH WAIT
there we go
im so pro
quartz kindle
interesting
fierce ether
canvas dosent work with node v14?
quartz kindle
it does
fierce ether
Error: The specified module could not be found.
\\?\C:\Users\J\Desktop\Commissions\valor\node_modules\canvas\build\Release\canvas.node
at Object.Module._extensions..node (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:1122:18)
at Module.load (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:928:32)
at Function.Module._load (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:769:14)
at Module.require (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:952:19)
at require (internal/modules/cjs/helpers.js:88:18)
at Object.<anonymous> (C:\Users\J\Desktop\Commissions\valor\node_modules\canvas\lib\bindings.js:3:18)
at Module._compile (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:1063:30)
at Object.Module._extensions..js (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:1092:10)
at Module.load (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:928:32)
at Function.Module._load (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:769:14)
at Module.require (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:952:19)
at require (internal/modules/cjs/helpers.js:88:18)
at Object.<anonymous> (C:\Users\J\Desktop\Commissions\valor\node_modules\canvas\lib\canvas.js:9:18)
at Module._compile (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:1063:30)
at Object.Module._extensions..js (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:1092:10)
at Module.load (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:928:32)```did you recently change node version?
quartz kindle
did you copy/paste the node_modules folder?
quartz kindle
and you just run npm install canvas?
quartz kindle
when you installed discord-canvas did it show any logs about canvas?
also why the fuck does discord-canvas require fortnite
fierce ether
nope i even tried npm i canvacord same thing
quartz kindle
both of them use canvas
and canvas is a native module
requires compiling
run npm rebuild canvas
fierce ether
oh may of worked
kind kayak
I need help
como hago esto
const dato1 = args[1];
const dato2= args[2];
const datos1 = ["perro","gato"];
if (dato1 no existe o no es igual a datos1 )
pale vessel
si si
kind kayak
how I do this
const data1 = args [1];
const data2 = args [2];
const datas1 = ["dog", "cat"];
if (data1 does not exist or is not equal to datas1)
kind kayak
Now
kind kayak
I edit now
kind kayak
Reedit
tawdry yarrow
Ah okay
tawdry yarrow
if(!data1 || data1 !== datas1)
kind kayak
Ok i test
tawdry yarrow
Alright
kind kayak
Wait
tawdry yarrow
?
quartz kindle
you want to check if data1 exists and is perro or gato?
if(["perro","gato"].includes(data1.toLowerCase()))
tawdry yarrow
I think he just wants to see if it is not equal to datas1
quartz kindle
datas1 is an array
tawdry yarrow
Ik
quartz kindle
a string cannot be equal an array
tawdry yarrow
True
Maybe he didn't word it very well
But we should make sure he clarifies before confusing him
kind kayak
const nick = args[0];
const edad = args[1];
const sexo = args[2];
const generos = ['masculino', 'femenino'];
if(!nick) {
message.channel.send("Uso de Registro : \n //reg nickname edad sexo")
} else if(!edad) {message.channel.send(" โ | Olvidaste poner tu edad \n Debes escribir: Nick Edad Sexo \n en orden")}
else if(!sexo || sexo !== generos) {message.channel.send(" โ | ese genero no existe \n Debes escribir: femenino o masculino ")}
else {
message.channel.send(**Nickname: **${nick} \n **Edad: **${edad} \n **Sexo: **${sexo})
Help me where are the error?
fierce ether
if im correct user dosent have a roles property?
const roles = ['Testing', 'Tester One']
if(user.roles.indexOf(roles)) return```its not reaction.message.member tho?
mellow kelp
not sure
kind kayak
const nick = args[0];
const edad = args[1];
const sexo = args[2];
const generos ...
Helpme
kind kayak
I use js
mellow kelp
ik i was just saying something
pale vessel
Isn't it just REST though
quartz kindle
feral aspen
// server.mutedRole = Mute Role ID
const muterole = message.guild.roles.cache.get(server.mutedRole);
if(mutee.roles.cache.has(muterole)) {
embedError.setDescription(`${mutee.user.username} is already muted!`);
return message.channel.send(embedError);
};
``` Anyone knows why it's not returning?https://gyazo.com/663f2b2fbe1ef2e13456cdc4730b172a hi i have a problem, i cannot display the exact number of members on my bot (i am using lib discordjs v12)
lyric mountain
are you retrieving from cache?
feral aspen
are you retrieving from cache?
What do you mean?
lyric mountain
if you are getting the count from the cache
feral aspen
Ah
earnest phoenix
feral aspen
But about my question, do you know anything about it?
feral aspen
?
earnest phoenix
sorry I didn't read what you were saying
earnest phoenix
yes
lyric mountain
or iterating over each guild and storing the count in a variable?
oh, nvm, I thought it was hamood's question lul
feral aspen
Ah
agile lance
How can I get the server count of my bot to show? client.guilds.cache.size returns "Cannot read property of โcacheโ of undefined"
earnest phoenix
so how do i get the exact total?
lyric mountain
But about my question, do you know anything about it?
if you console.log inside that if-clause, does it write something?
feral aspen
I will write.
lyric mountain
so how do i get the exact total?
iterate over each guild retrieving the total count
agile lance
When I log 'client' it does have a guilds property
dusky sundial
When I log 'client' it does have a guilds property
python or js?
earnest phoenix
except that it is not the guild total but the user total
agile lance
python or js?
js
lyric mountain
except that it is not the guild total but the user total
you're writing "a!help | X users"
lyric mountain
if you want guilds it's easier then
agile lance
Never used js, but I'm assuming just client.guilds.size doesn't work?
yep. neither of them work
earnest phoenix
you're writing "a!help | X users"
yes i want the total members
not the total guild
lyric mountain
iterate over the guilds, retrieving total member count
agile lance
but when logging client it does look like it goes like this client => guilds => cache then I can use client.guilds.cache with a .size to get the amount
earnest phoenix
k
feral aspen
if you console.log inside that if-clause, does it write something?
Unfortunately not.
agile lance
It returns undefined but it still has the property
lyric mountain
if you console.log "mutee.roles.cache" what does it output?
feral aspen
Instead the if statement or outside?
agile lance
How is mutee defined?
feral aspen
let mutee = message.guild.member(message.mentions.members.first() || message.guild.members.cache.get(args[0]));
feral aspen
Sure.
agile lance
Thats how I have defined it in the past and it worked np
feral aspen
nevermind, it didn't console log anything inside the if statement.
if(mutee.roles.cache.has(muterole)) { ... }
This doesn't work.
lyric mountain
use muterole.id
or just server.mutedRole
feral aspen
const muterole = message.guild.roles.cache.get(server.mutedRole);
/// server.mutedRole = The Muted Role ID
remove server.mutedrole
redefine muterole
as
message.guild.roles.cache.get("ROLE ID")
pale vessel
do you even need mutedrole
feral aspen
Yes.
pale vessel
for?
lyric mountain
ig mutedRole is a saved config
feral aspen
Yes.
pale vessel
sorry muterole
feral aspen
MutedRole is the Muted role ID.
lyric mountain
use it then
pale vessel
Yes
feral aspen
server.mutedRole is considered as an ID
pale vessel
I meant muterole
lyric mountain
.has(server.mutedRole)
agile lance
see instead of server.mutedrole I wouldve done let mutedRole; mutedRole = database fetching code
and then it can be changed at any time with a command
pale vessel
hmm
feral aspen
Uh
lyric mountain
kudos to flaze
fierce ether
if(['Level One', 'Level Two'].some(role => member.roles.includes(role))) return```what am i doing wrong?
pale vessel
hmm
lyric mountain
I have several questions
fierce ether
reaction.message.member
sudden geyser
Does Visual Studio Code randomly open sometimes for anyone?
pale vessel
then use array.some(name => member.roles.cache.find(role => role.name === name)) ig
lyric mountain
Does Visual Studio Code randomly open sometimes for anyone?
ctrl + shift + esc -> statup
see if vscode is there
or check if you didn't link vscode to text files
sudden geyser
I don't use Windows so I basically opened the equivalent. Visual Studio Code isn't running, but a process named "Code Helper (Renderer)" is ๐ค
Which has some open files/ports pointing to VSC
lyric mountain
idk, never seem that
fierce ether
if(roles.some(name => member.roles.cache.find(role => role.name === name))) return user.send(user, noRole)``` keeps returning even if they have the rolehow do i send videos in discord py
embed
you can't
you can only upload video files
๐ฆ
looks like proxy time
uncut kernel
Looking for testers for my discord bot! They need to test my bot and give me feedback! Dm if interested!
Is it legal to post that here?
@lyric mountain
lyric mountain
no
lyric mountain
mods will tell u to check for fiverr or freelancer
lyric mountain
find some friends to help u test
uncut kernel
Cuz i might have missed some bugs
uncut kernel
find some friends to help u test
Wish i had some ๐ฅฒ
lyric mountain
dot dot dot
long marsh
I wonder if Tim is around ๐ค
uncut kernel
Tim?
long marsh
Yeah, he usually helps out in here. I just wanted to thank him for something ๐
uncut kernel
Ok lol
@long marsh can you help me test my bot if it has any bugs
I already tested
long marsh
<@608120740100964372> can you help me test my bot if it has any bugs
Negative on that ๐ - I'm fixing my own bot's problems atm ๐
uncut kernel
But i might have missed some bugs
long marsh
What's your bot?
uncut kernel
Its a multipurpose bot
earnest phoenix
I want to start with coding and figured I'd start with a discord bot. I did some research and found out about discord.py for Python, should I start with Python? Or other languages?
earnest phoenix
Sorry for disturbing the convo 
long marsh
I want to start with coding and figured I'd start with a discord bot. I did some...
Start with any language you feel the most comfortable with. Python is easy to learn since it practically reads like english. Discord.js for JavaScript is also great for its extensive guide.
lyric mountain
I want to start with coding and figured I'd start with a discord bot. I did some...
don't
uncut kernel
No problem lmao
lyric mountain
but bots just make it worse
uncut kernel
Starting with anything is hard ๐
long marsh
I learn best from throwing myself in the deepend and climbing my way out, haha
My bot just hit 1.5k servers ๐
๐ ๐ ๐
uncut kernel
My bot just hit 1.5k servers ๐
WHAT
earnest phoenix
I started learning the basics of Python, I could share the video i learned from. I don't really know how to make use of it though 
uncut kernel
1.5k
lyric mountain
just note that python LOOKS easier, but it's a double-edge dagger
long marsh
Agreed
earnest phoenix
My bot just hit 1.5k servers ๐
Congrats! 
uncut kernel
@earnest phoenix anyways can i ask you a favor?
earnest phoenix
Of course
lyric mountain
python is a siren that charms you and take you to the bottom of the ocean
earnest phoenix
python is a siren that charms you and take you to the bottom of the ocean
O.O
lyric mountain
when you notice you're floating lifeless on a pile of code
long marsh
It's really easy to lose yourself in Python code ... ie. spaghetti
But, I guess, that's really the same for any language.
Python just makes it easier ๐
lyric mountain
the issue with python is that it's so abstracted that it charms new coders
there's a quote for that:
"easy, cheap, fast - choose 2"
python would be easy and cheap
earnest phoenix
I see
long marsh
Python can be fast if optimized correctly. Most new learners wouldn't know that though.
lyric mountain
the major bottleneck of python is that it's an interpreted lang
and doesn't have threads at all
python is good for small tasks
like automation, routine scripts, etc
long marsh
It's 'fake' multithreading ๐
lyric mountain
which is why it was made
long marsh
For example, we use it at my day job for automating CI scripts and build plans ๐
lyric mountain
yeah, CI scripts are really easy with python
lyric mountain
I use python to retrieve sound name for my stream
long marsh
Honestly, I've fallen in love with Javascript. I used to hate it. Once I switched from Python to it ... haven't really gone back.
lyric mountain
since IO with it is dirty simple
I can't get used to JS, like, I use it for sites and whatever but I don't really like debugging it
earnest phoenix
lyric mountain
idk, I'm just not made for interp langs
earnest phoenix
No problem
lyric mountain
What are interp langs?
interpreted languages
langs that aren't compiled, just run directly
the runtime "interprets" what you're trying to do
like
let a = 30;
a = "aaa";
console.log(a);
will output aaa
meanwhile in compiled langs it'd output
Cannot convert type String to int
Oh
mellow kelp
ts 
earnest phoenix
I think i get it
lyric mountain
pros:
- less vars, less code
- easier (is it?)
cons:
- slower
- howthehelldoIdebugthis
earnest phoenix
Lol
earnest phoenix
Scale? 
lyric mountain
yeah, code size
mellow kelp
project size
lyric mountain
actually, complexity size
mellow kelp
o
earnest phoenix
Ohh
So basically
Interpreted languages for smaller projects
Non-interpreted languages (?) for bigger projects
earnest phoenix
Do bots contain much code or rather less as for the size?
lyric mountain
depends
more code not necessarily means more complexity
some bots are really simple
while others have a whole cobweb regarding methods
the most barebones as possible bot would have about 15-20 lines
quartz kindle
it depends on the project, you cant really use an interpreted language for an arduino device no matter how small the project, neither can you use a compiled language for a huge project if the project is a web app
i mean, technically you can, but you will end up complicating everything to accomplish it
mellow kelp
java is like, 80% compiled and 20% interpreted right?
it compiles to bytecode, which is interpreted by the jvm
tired panther
A question to the reload things, since the commands a saved in a map, theoretically I could overwrite them with same function, which I use to load commands, Is this possible? @Tim#2373
quartz kindle
lua has luajit, python has pypy
lyric mountain
pypy lul
mellow kelp
pp for abbreviation 
lyric mountain
idk how noone made yet a lib named papaya for python
mellow kelp
hm yes
quartz kindle
A question to the reload things, since the commands a saved in a map, theoretica...
yes, you can do client.commands.set(name, newRequiredFile)
mellow kelp
quartz kindle
it will replace the existing
tired panther
yes, you can do client.commands.set(name, newRequiredFile)
perfect Thx again 
lyric mountain
p-py py
quartz kindle
depends, what are your goals?
mellow kelp
lyric mountain
I recommend java, but really depends on your goals
I'm a bit biased towards java tho
earnest phoenix
That's a good question i should've thought about what i even want to achieve
quartz kindle
js and python are probably easier for beginners and they have by far the biggest communities out there, which means lots of resources to learn from
c# is rapidly growing as one of the best balanced languages
tired panther
That's a good question i should've thought about what i even want to achieve
use C 
best for beginners ,jk , js is good, c++ or py
quartz kindle
java has been around from decades and has multiple ways of using it
mellow kelp
use binary like a real programmer
lyric mountain
newbies don't need ptsd
mellow kelp
im learning rust and it's been a blast so far
tired panther
use binary like a real programmer
000101000100100101001001001001 here xD
quartz kindle
lua is commonly used in videogame scripting
mellow kelp
roblox
lyric mountain
^ and mouse scripting
earnest phoenix
How about a bot
quartz kindle
ruby is also popular for server development, and afaik for rpgmaker
lyric mountain
ain't rpgmaker java?
quartz kindle
last time i used it, it had ruby scripts
earnest phoenix
Many languages i haven't heard of, I'll have to do some more research 
quartz kindle
to build the actual content, not the engine logic
tired panther
How about a bot
when you ask me , I would begin with javascript. Its easy and a powerful language
quartz kindle
How about a bot
if it gives you an idea, 90% of bots out there are either js, java, python or c#
with js being like 80% of those
lmao
earnest phoenix
I see
slim umbra
rust 
tired panther
with js being like 80% of those
ah, someone should use discord.js-light , 1 user + 
lyric mountain
with js being like 80% of those
what if you filter-out turk/copypaste bots?
mellow kelp
im gonna try making a bot with rust later on
quartz kindle
what if you filter-out turk/copypaste bots? <:KEKW:727825308404940800>
probably still the same
mellow kelp
wonder how it will turn out 
quartz kindle
js is currently the most popular language in the world afaik
mellow kelp
wasn't it python or something
lyric mountain
make sure to take anti-tetanus shot
earnest phoenix
I heard Python is also used in data-management or so? Please correct if it's not true 
lyric mountain
objective task
earnest phoenix
Uhh programming is really complex
tired panther
When you can not decide:
make a python to js parser 
lyric mountain
not at all once you get the hang to it
tired panther
Uhh programming is really complex
nah, its easy
quartz kindle
python used to be extremely popular for creating small scripts like reminders, automating excel files or download/upload/move files and folders, etc
but these days js can do the same with node
earnest phoenix
What'd be a good kind of project to get started? You know get the hang of it and so on. Or should i just study as a start?
cinder patio
js is also categorized as a scripting language
tired panther
@earnest phoenix js has the advantage, you can run it on nearly any browser
tired panther
js is also categorized as a scripting language
java _script
earnest phoenix
but these days js can do the same with node
Node?
cinder patio
That's not why but okฤซ
quartz kindle
js has always been a scripting language, but before node it was confined to browsers
with node, now js can run everywhere
glacial pagoda
Help, Code -> https://pastebin.com/Nruxcynj
cinder patio
node.js is a javascript runtime*
earnest phoenix
Hmm
quartz kindle
for example, before you could code a python file, similarly to how you would do a complext bat or shell file
and then just run python file.py
and it would work
back then no other language could do that
earnest phoenix
So
quartz kindle
now you can do node file.js
lyric mountain
What'd be a good kind of project to get started? You know get the hang of it and...
calculator
tired panther
DIscord bot 
lyric mountain
actually, start with a "Hello World" project
mellow kelp
like a simple sum calculator
lyric mountain
DIscord bot <a:dboatsSiren:588687943640678410>
don't
tired panther
avoid starting at discord bots
lol I started xD
opal plank
discord bots are advanced projects, dont start with that
earnest phoenix
Node is kind of a tool to even be able to program certain things in javascript?
opal plank
properly learn before doing something advanced
lyric mountain
if you want to have sucess, start with a "Hello World"
all good devs start with it
quartz kindle
node is a program that interprets and executes javascript code in real time
tired panther
if you want to have sucess, start with a "Hello World"
console.log("hello World")
tired panther
node is a program that interprets and executes javascript code in real time
I thought they do it on runtime
mellow kelp
Welcome to the calculator!
Type a number:
6
Type another number:
12
Result: 18
lol wanted to tell
lyric mountain
console.log("hello World")
it's a must, else the programming gods will be angry
earnest phoenix
node is a program that interprets and executes javascript code in real time
And without it javascript can't by itself?
lyric mountain
and bugs will haunt your code
glacial pagoda
Help, Code -> https://pastebin.com/Nruxcynj
help please
tired panther
```
Welcome to the calculator!
Type a number:
6
Type another number:
12
Result: ...
thats a one second project, cmon
quartz kindle
javascript needs an engine to run on, node is one engine, browsers contain another javascript engine as well
tired panther
do it then
made one in c xD
quartz kindle
there are many engines that run javascript, but the most popular one is called v8 which is used in node and in google chrome
lyric mountain
calculator despite being simple help learning basics
earnest phoenix
and then you have monstrosities such as chromium built on top of v8
lyric mountain
it's easy now, but I bet you couldn't do it that fast when you started
earnest phoenix
I did some "Hello World" and other things such as lists and uhh dunno how you call it but for example (Age: ___, you type it in and then the output is: "You are <input> years old") on Python
quartz kindle
so if you already have some experience with python, you can stick with it
earnest phoenix
javascript needs an engine to run on, node is one engine, browsers contain anoth...
I see, thanks
tired panther
there are many engines that run javascript, but the most popular one is called v...
this probably interests @earnest phoenix to 0% rather confusing them. GO on lets squeeze out everything you know 
quartz kindle
unless you want to move into web development
web is javascript land
python has no business there
lyric mountain
I did some "Hello World" and other things such as lists and uhh dunno how you ca...
do some simple programs, there are a bunch that we do to practice when starting a new lang
earnest phoenix
And what do you mean by running in Chrome or any browser?
mellow kelp
flask is used a ton
that's backend
slim umbra
backend is part of web dev skid
lyric mountain
making a snake game is also a good exercise
tired panther
And what do you mean by running in Chrome or any browser? <:thonkku:356833797804...
Google 
lyric mountain
it's kinda simple but involve a lot of knowledge
mellow kelp
people just wanna disagree with everyone
quartz kindle
And what do you mean by running in Chrome or any browser? <:thonkku:356833797804...
press F12 in your browser, and go to the "console" tab
earnest phoenix
do some simple programs, there are a bunch that we do to practice when starting ...
Sounds good, I think I'll start with Python or Javascript
quartz kindle
the console is a real time javascript engine
you can literally type js code in there and it will work in real time
tired panther
Sounds good, I think I'll start with Python or Javascript
I can give 100% discord dm support when you use js lol
earnest phoenix
I pressed f12 and turned on airplane mode
quartz kindle
wtf
tired panther
I pressed f12 and turned on airplane mode <:KEKW:727825308404940800>
lol
then you are on the laptop probably
glacial pagoda
Help, Code -> https://pastebin.com/Nruxcynj
Can Someone Help me With This error
earnest phoenix
then you are on the laptop probably
I am
quartz kindle
if your laptop has FN keys on
earnest phoenix
Yup
quartz kindle
then you need to press fn+f12
tired panther
ctrl + shift + j or this
quartz kindle
yup
earnest phoenix
And when i go to console i can type if i want
lyric mountain
then you need to press fn+f12
except if you have function keys reversed in byos
some laps have it on by default
quartz kindle
And when i go to console i can type if i want
for example, type ```js
for(let i = 0; i < 10; i++) {
console.log(i)
}
and you will see the code running
tired panther
interesting 
earnest phoenix
I typer it in
lyric mountain
just remember that F5 will clear ur runtime
earnest phoenix
I see numbers in a list and it says "undefined" at the bottom
quartz kindle
yup, thats the result of the code
quartz kindle
the code means "count up to 10, and each time you count, output the current number"
earnest phoenix
You basically said that i = 0 and to count from i to 10
quartz kindle
yup
earnest phoenix
And that was js?
quartz kindle
yup
quartz kindle
although something basic like a for loop exists in almost all languages
weak basin
One of the features on my bot is a counting channel. You can set the counting channel and then in that channel it will change the message you send into a webhook (Just the same message basically but has bot next to it) and if it isn't a number it will give a warning message and delete it etc. Would my bot get rate limited if say it was being used actively in 10 guilds and each one was counting 10-20 numbers a minute? It would then be deleting 100-200 messages a min and sending that many webhooks. Should I change it so instead all it does is delete the message if it is not a number? (This is still a test feature not public yet don't yeet my bot from top.gg pls ty)
weak basin
Me?
lyric mountain
yep
weak basin
Mb
earnest phoenix
Python seemed a little easier, but there's not much of a difference probably
lyric mountain
that one absolute wall-of-text
glacial pagoda
Help, Code -> https://pastebin.com/Nruxcynj
;-; Am I Invisible
I ned help
I keep getting this error
quartz kindle
Python seemed a little easier, but there's not much of a difference probably
yes for some things python might be simpler, for others js may be simpler
lyric mountain
your variable is undefined
weak basin
that one absolute wall-of-text
But do you know if that could get it rate limited?
glacial pagoda
How do i defin it?
earnest phoenix
I would've shared what I have learned on Python yet but a few months ago i gave up and deleted it -_-
lyric mountain
But do you know if that could get it rate limited?
you will definitely get ratelimited
and webhooks are one-way only
there's really no way to make a realtime counting message
weak basin
you will definitely get ratelimited
I see, so I just change it so it will only delete the message if it is not a number n ditch the webhooks then ig
quartz kindle
I would've shared what I have learned on Python yet but a few months ago i gave ...
the cool thing about programming is that 90% of programming concepts apply to multiple languages, so if you know how to do X in one language, doing the same in another language is usually very similar
because the concept is the same, just the syntax is different
lyric mountain
What Do i Put?
earnest phoenix
Ohh
lyric mountain
this is very prone to error
earnest phoenix
That's great
cloud warren
giving role to the top is working but this is not working I can't give role to bot
lyric mountain
<@!350836145921327115>
no, you need to check if a member was mentioned at all
quartz kindle
for example this is js js mylist = [1,2,3,4,5] for(number of mylist) { console.log(number * 2) } and this is python ```py
mylist = [1,2,3,4,5]
for number in mylist
print(number * 2)
Thats Why There is a if statement
lyric mountain
for example this is js ```js
mylist = [1,2,3,4,5]
for(number of mylist) {
cons...
and this is java```java
List.of(1,2,3,4,5).stream().peek(System::println)
lul
quartz kindle
xD
cloud warren
const Discord = require('discord.js');
const ayarlar = require("../ayarlar.json");
exports.run = function(client, message, args) {
if (!message.member.roles.has("806260410957299773")) return message.channel.send(`**:warning: ใป Bu komutu kullanmnฤฑz iรงin yetkiniz yetmiyor.**`);
let sahip = args[0]
let pawyon = args[1]
let prefix = args[2]
let sahip1 = message.guild.members.get(args[0]);
let sahip2 = message.guild.members.get(args[1]);
let kanal = "806247959083352145" // bot onaylama reddetme kanalฤฑ
let furkan = "806259279036153897" // bot durum log kanalฤฑ
let botsahipkanal = "806259279036153897" // bot sahiplerinin gรถsterileceฤi kanal
let developer1 = ayarlar.developer;
let botlist1 = ayarlar.botlistt;
if (message.channel.id !== kanal) return message.channel.send(`**โน ใป Baลvuruda bulunulmuล bir botu yalnฤฑzca <#${kanal}> kanalฤฑnda onaylayabilirsin.**`).then(msg => msg.delete(5000))
if (!pawyon) return message.channel.send(`**:exclamation: ใป Botun idsini yazmalฤฑsฤฑn.**`).then(msg => msg.delete(5000))
if (!sahip) return message.channel.send(`**:exclamation: ใป Botun sahibinin idsini yazmalฤฑsฤฑn.**.`).then(msg => msg.delete(5000))
if (!prefix) return message.channel.send(`**:exclamation: ใป Botun prefixini yazmalฤฑsฤฑn.**.`).then(msg => msg.delete(5000))
message.delete()
sahip1.addRole(developer1);
sahip2.addRole(botlist1);
let embedd = new Discord.RichEmbed().setDescription(`**:white_check_mark: ใป<@${pawyon}> Adlฤฑ Baลarฤฑyla botu onayladฤฑnฤฑz.**`);
sahip.send(embedd);
let embed2 = new Discord.RichEmbed()
.setColor("#5fbf00")
.setDescription(`<@${sahip}> **adlฤฑ geliลtiricinin; <@${pawyon}> adlฤฑ, __${pawyon}__ idli botu onaylandฤฑ.** \n \n __**Botu Onaylayan Yetkili :**__ ${message.author} - **${message.author.tag}**`);
client.channels.get(furkan).send(embed2);
};
```and this is wall of text
cloud warren
pls help not work
lyric mountain
Thats Why There is a if statement
an if statement AFTER getting the username is useless
earnest phoenix
So from what I've picked up Python and Javascript are great to start with, after i learned some basics i could make simple projects to learn the language even better. If i take js or python depends on what i want to achieve later
cloud warren
not give a role a bot
lyric mountain
you need to check if there's a mention before you start getting the attributes
quartz kindle
So from what I've picked up Python and Javascript are great to start with, after...
mostly yes
glacial pagoda
Of So Add The const in the if statement?
lyric mountain
no
glacial pagoda
Im confused
quartz kindle
but dont fret too much about the choice because once you learn one, moving to another is not hard
earnest phoenix
Okay
lyric mountain
the check must be between those two lines
glacial pagoda
Do i Put The if statement between that
earnest phoenix
@quartz kindle May I ask which langs you code in mostly?
lyric mountain
dot dot dot
glacial pagoda
wat
glacial pagoda
ok
glacial pagoda
in between the two lines
lyric mountain
yes
earnest phoenix
In terms of difficulty Python and js are the same hmm
I think I'll get started with js then
lyric mountain
ah, one last tip I have
lyric mountain
Never, ever think about pressing Ctrl + C and Ctrl + V
earnest phoenix
:O
lyric mountain
idk, but people like to borrow code from the internet
worthy bear
Hello
lyric mountain
which results in catastrophic codes
also, it's good to write code by hand instead of copying, even if it's your own
learn how to code with ctrl + space
lyric mountain
its the most wonderful combination ever
lyric mountain
also, it's good to write code by hand instead of copying, even if it's your own
copying my own code
earnest phoenix
What does it do?
lyric mountain
Never heard of that combination
some call it intellisense, some call it godhand
mellow kelp
in vscode it shows auto completions
lyric mountain
it's basically auto-completion
lyric mountain
if using intellij, alt + enter is also your friend
lyric mountain
It suggest what you want to type?
yep
quartz kindle
<@180112943612952577> May I ask which langs you code in mostly?
i use mostly js
and my mostly i mean almost exclusively lmao
floral gate
hi
earnest phoenix
Alr, thanks
mellow kelp
so yesterday i was making fun of python ternary operators
and today im learning rust
let thing = if condition { something } else { somethingElse };
solemn latch
python ternary operators are backwards to js right?
mellow kelp
oof
mellow kelp
python ternary operators are backwards to js right?
yea
thing = something if condition else somethingElse
https://pastebin.com/PMr1hLih I need help With The .lastMessage.id Part. I Keep Getting A Error
solemn latch
yeah, kinda weird. but its probably just because i learned js first
mellow kelp
at least the rust one isn't inverted or anything
solemn latch
whats lastMessage a property of?
glacial pagoda
Wdym
const messagearg2 = message.mentions.users.first(); -> const lastmessagemention = messagearg2.lastMessage.id;
solemn latch
whats messagearg2 defined as ๐
solemn latch
ohoh
umbral zealot
lastMessage can be null
solemn latch
i dont think users have lastmessage properties too
umbral zealot
it only works if the user has sent a message since the bot turned on
glacial pagoda
So member?
glacial pagoda
Oh
glacial pagoda
it only works if the user has sent a message since the bot turned on
Ok
rugged cobalt
If anyone has experience with MongoDB, how come when I update a document it updates the updatedAt as well as the createdAt
should the createdAt not remain the same or is there something I have to do
solemn latch
are you using updateOne or update?
rugged cobalt
findOneAndUpdate
solemn latch
this is a mongoose answer, but seems to be the same issue. https://github.com/Automattic/mongoose/issues/8954
It seems this is actually intended, if you want to have a createdAt(which actually maintains the original date) it seems the correct solution is to add your own rather than letting mongodb handle it.
rugged cobalt
this is a mongoose answer, but seems to be the same issue. <https://github.com/A...
That's pretty stupid that they auto update the created date but thanks
solemn latch
gotta love weird undocumented quirks