#development | Top.gg | Page 1537

earnest phoenix Jan 19, 2021, 11:06 PM

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sturdy flower Jan 19, 2021, 11:06 PM

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How can i get bot developer role?

opal plank Jan 19, 2021, 11:06 PM

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sturdy flower How can i get bot developer role?

get a bot approved

sturdy flower Jan 19, 2021, 11:06 PM

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Ok thanks

earnest phoenix Jan 19, 2021, 11:07 PM

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earnest phoenix

Help me plz ^^

opal plank Jan 19, 2021, 11:07 PM

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earnest phoenix Help me plz ^^

help with what?

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html* ?

earnest phoenix Jan 19, 2021, 11:08 PM

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you can't use relative paths for images

earnest phoenix Jan 19, 2021, 11:08 PM

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opal plank help with what?

Image does not load

opal plank Jan 19, 2021, 11:09 PM

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earnest phoenix Image does not load

what cry said

earnest phoenix Jan 19, 2021, 11:10 PM

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opal plank what cry said

Look at my 2 screens and my script

opal plank Jan 19, 2021, 11:11 PM

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earnest phoenix Look at my 2 screens and my script

once again, read what cry sent

opal plank Jan 19, 2021, 11:11 PM

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earnest phoenix you can't use relative paths for images

this

earnest phoenix Jan 19, 2021, 11:11 PM

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opal plank once again, read what cry sent

cry ?

shut spear Jan 19, 2021, 11:12 PM

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does anyone know what the rate limit for fetching is

modern sable Jan 19, 2021, 11:12 PM

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fetching what

earnest phoenix Jan 19, 2021, 11:12 PM

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what

shut spear Jan 19, 2021, 11:12 PM

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fetch() like message.fetch(user.id)

opal plank Jan 19, 2021, 11:12 PM

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so, fetching messages

earnest phoenix Jan 19, 2021, 11:13 PM

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ratelimits are dynamic

opal plank Jan 19, 2021, 11:13 PM

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reminder that ratelimits are dynamic

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check request headers

shut spear Jan 19, 2021, 11:13 PM

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discord.js 😦

earnest phoenix Jan 19, 2021, 11:13 PM

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why do you need that information anyways

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djs should handle ratelimits for you

shut spear Jan 19, 2021, 11:13 PM

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was wondering, anyway, thanks

earnest phoenix Jan 19, 2021, 11:14 PM

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almost all discord ratelimits are dynamic

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an example of why not to hard code them is that a fuckton of bots got api banned when the ratelimit for changing channel names switched to a much more restrictive ratelimit

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discord can change and adjust them anytime without notifying you

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i think they even warn you not to hardcode it in the docs

opal plank Jan 19, 2021, 11:21 PM

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earnest phoenix i think they even warn you not to hardcode it in the docs

they do iirc

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https://discord.com/developers/docs/topics/rate-limits

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hallow grove Jan 19, 2021, 11:43 PM

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104 105

earnest phoenix Jan 19, 2021, 11:43 PM

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Is it bad to use sqlite3 for a public discord bot in around 50,000 servers.
The sole purpose of the database is to allow for a simple economy, such as storing balance and bank balance?

solemn latch Jan 19, 2021, 11:44 PM

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this is top.gg support, try #development for dev help

earnest phoenix Jan 19, 2021, 11:44 PM

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Mb mb

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Wait

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...

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We’re in #development

neat hearth Jan 19, 2021, 11:44 PM

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this is #development

earnest phoenix Jan 19, 2021, 11:44 PM

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Lmao

opal plank Jan 19, 2021, 11:45 PM

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@hallow grove what do you want?

earnest phoenix Jan 19, 2021, 11:45 PM

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yes it's bad

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Why

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sqlite is usable up until a 100 guilds

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because it's a single file embedded database

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it isn't powerful

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Concurrency issues?

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it isn't meant to handle so many connections

neat hearth Jan 19, 2021, 11:45 PM

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json is da best

earnest phoenix Jan 19, 2021, 11:45 PM

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no it is not

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Lol

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Alright ty

neat hearth Jan 19, 2021, 11:45 PM

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simple and easy to use

earnest phoenix Jan 19, 2021, 11:45 PM

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easy to corrupt

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no data protection

neat hearth Jan 19, 2021, 11:46 PM

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thats true

earnest phoenix Jan 19, 2021, 11:46 PM

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Was just wondering since I read that a website will be fine when using SQLite if it has around 200k views per day, that’s the threshold

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and access time compared to a normal db is super slow

hallow grove Jan 19, 2021, 11:46 PM

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@hallow grove what do you want?
@opal plank

Why

earnest phoenix Jan 19, 2021, 11:46 PM

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earnest phoenix Was just wondering since I read that a website will be fine when using SQLite if...

basically if you're going large scale, use postgres

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Nu

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Mongo

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🙂

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ew

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but sure whatever floats your boat

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What’s bad about mongo eh? 😂

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nosql is nasty to me

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I keep getting an error tho

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Saying topology is closed please reconnect

opal plank Jan 19, 2021, 11:47 PM

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hallow grove > <@!601622162339528704> what do you want? <@188836645670223872> Why

why you sending me friend requests? wanna talk to me or simply too impatient to wait for replies here?

hallow grove Jan 19, 2021, 11:48 PM

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I may have something to tell you in private

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👀

neat hearth Jan 19, 2021, 11:48 PM

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what about me

hallow grove Jan 19, 2021, 11:48 PM

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I tend to be curious hmm

earnest phoenix Jan 19, 2021, 11:48 PM

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go to #general , curious

hallow grove Jan 19, 2021, 11:48 PM

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I sent a bunch of you a friend request I await your acceptance

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😌

earnest phoenix Jan 19, 2021, 11:49 PM

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Dm ads most likely 🙂

hallow grove Jan 19, 2021, 11:49 PM

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No

earnest phoenix Jan 19, 2021, 11:49 PM

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Yup

hallow grove Jan 19, 2021, 11:50 PM

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I'm not an idiot I don't send dm ads to developers

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😑

earnest phoenix Jan 19, 2021, 11:50 PM

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Yessir

hallow grove Jan 19, 2021, 11:50 PM

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Hmm

earnest phoenix Jan 19, 2021, 11:50 PM

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Ofccccc

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Jk

hallow grove Jan 19, 2021, 11:50 PM

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Don't be annoying now

earnest phoenix Jan 19, 2021, 11:50 PM

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Anyways imma dip, this Warzone game ain’t gonna play itself

hallow grove Jan 19, 2021, 11:50 PM

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Hmm

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Have fun

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👀

earnest phoenix Jan 19, 2021, 11:51 PM

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Tyvm

fierce ether Jan 19, 2021, 11:53 PM

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if(message?.author.id === client.user.id) return

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dont understand?

earnest phoenix Jan 19, 2021, 11:53 PM

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you're using optional chaining in the wrong place

fierce ether Jan 19, 2021, 11:53 PM

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wdym?

earnest phoenix Jan 19, 2021, 11:53 PM

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nvm

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i just noticed it's a messageDelete event

fierce ether Jan 19, 2021, 11:54 PM

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yeh

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is there a better way to not logs the bots events?

solemn latch Jan 19, 2021, 11:55 PM

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not log?

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just dont log it

fierce ether Jan 19, 2021, 11:57 PM

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wdym?

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its logging all message delete? using ids it would not return if the author is the client

compact olive Jan 20, 2021, 12:03 AM

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hello

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i need help

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I would like my bot to send a message to the channel of id 272764566411149314 when it joins a server

solemn latch Jan 20, 2021, 12:05 AM

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theres no need to ping random users.

compact olive Jan 20, 2021, 12:05 AM

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@opal plank

solemn latch Jan 20, 2021, 12:05 AM

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please stop pinging people

compact olive Jan 20, 2021, 12:05 AM

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you are

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developper

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 12:05 AM

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compact olive <@!188836645670223872>

can you not ping people?

compact olive Jan 20, 2021, 12:05 AM

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so i ping developper

solemn latch Jan 20, 2021, 12:05 AM

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please dont

compact olive Jan 20, 2021, 12:05 AM

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because i need help

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pls

mellow kelp Jan 20, 2021, 12:05 AM

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wtf

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 12:05 AM

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read channel topic

solemn latch Jan 20, 2021, 12:05 AM

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you are not entitled to help

compact olive Jan 20, 2021, 12:05 AM

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sorry

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ok ok

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 12:05 AM

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Channel for chatting about (bot) development. If you have questions, ask the questions and wait for someone who can answer to help you. Do not ask to ask. Provide all possible information so people know what's up. Just saying "I get an error" doesn't give us enough information on your problem. Do not @mention people randomly.

compact olive Jan 20, 2021, 12:05 AM

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ok sorry

odd stratus Jan 20, 2021, 12:06 AM

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if(message.author.bot) return; @fierce ether

compact olive Jan 20, 2021, 12:06 AM

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Good evening, is someone available to help me?

odd stratus Jan 20, 2021, 12:06 AM

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?

compact olive Jan 20, 2021, 12:06 AM

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I would like my bot to send a message to the channel of id 272764566411149314 when it joins a server

odd stratus Jan 20, 2021, 12:06 AM

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What lib

compact olive Jan 20, 2021, 12:06 AM

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but I can not

odd stratus Jan 20, 2021, 12:07 AM

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How can you not

fierce ether Jan 20, 2021, 12:07 AM

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@odd stratus that rlly dosent help lol

compact olive Jan 20, 2021, 12:07 AM

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 const { Discord, MessageEmbed } = require('discord.js');
 const joinEmbed = new Discord.MessageEmbed()
 joinEmbed.title('Je viens de rejoindre un serveur !')
 joinEmbed.description(`\`\`\`Nom du serveur : ${guild.name}\`\`\`\n\`\`\`ID du serveur : ${guild.id}\`\`\`\n\`\`\`Propriétaire : ${guild.owners.tag}\`\`\``)
 client.channels.cache.get("800523782673661953").send(joinEmbed);
        
});```

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he don't work

earnest phoenix Jan 20, 2021, 12:07 AM

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how does discord determine the channel ID to assign to a channel?

odd stratus Jan 20, 2021, 12:07 AM

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You asked how to not make it log bot stuff, so I gave you the answer

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Wdym

mellow kelp Jan 20, 2021, 12:07 AM

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compact olive ```client.on("guildCreate", function(guild){ const { Discord, MessageEmbed } = ...

the channel isn't in the cache probably

compact olive Jan 20, 2021, 12:08 AM

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well I write it in the code

mellow kelp Jan 20, 2021, 12:08 AM

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also

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your require function is invalid

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actually i think that's the problem

fierce ether Jan 20, 2021, 12:08 AM

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@odd stratus ik how to not log bots events, if you read the error you would not reply with if(message.author.bot) return;

compact olive Jan 20, 2021, 12:09 AM

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How should I do

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@mellow kelp

odd stratus Jan 20, 2021, 12:09 AM

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I did read the error

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Would if(message.author.bot) return; not do the job

mellow kelp Jan 20, 2021, 12:09 AM

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compact olive How should I do

just require the whole discord module

fierce ether Jan 20, 2021, 12:09 AM

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if the id is null explain how message.author is going to work without optimal chaining?

mellow kelp Jan 20, 2021, 12:09 AM

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don't use destructuring

compact olive Jan 20, 2021, 12:09 AM

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which module?

odd stratus Jan 20, 2021, 12:10 AM

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@compact olive It should not be like that

mellow kelp Jan 20, 2021, 12:10 AM

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just use const Discord = require('discord.js')

compact olive Jan 20, 2021, 12:10 AM

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how then ? @odd stratus

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@mellow kelp

mellow kelp Jan 20, 2021, 12:10 AM

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i just told you

compact olive Jan 20, 2021, 12:10 AM

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mellow kelp Jan 20, 2021, 12:10 AM

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don't ping me

compact olive Jan 20, 2021, 12:10 AM

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oh ok

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sorry

odd stratus Jan 20, 2021, 12:10 AM

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It's under a guildCreate event, and you put guild as a parameter

Try guild.channels.cache.get("channel ID");

mellow kelp Jan 20, 2021, 12:10 AM

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you're destructuring discord.js

compact olive Jan 20, 2021, 12:10 AM

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why

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ok thx Muhimur

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i try

odd stratus Jan 20, 2021, 12:11 AM

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fierce ether if the id is null explain how `message.author` is going to work without optimal ...

I don't know why its null? Send the code in a SourceBin here instead

fierce ether Jan 20, 2021, 12:12 AM

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its trying to fetch old messages, which would return no author

odd stratus Jan 20, 2021, 12:12 AM

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fierce ether `if(message?.author.id === client.user.id) return`

What's the question mark for though

mellow kelp Jan 20, 2021, 12:12 AM

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aight ima head out

fierce ether Jan 20, 2021, 12:12 AM

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optimal chaining?

mellow kelp Jan 20, 2021, 12:13 AM

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there's no need for optional chaining there

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the message itself is always defined

fierce ether Jan 20, 2021, 12:13 AM

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optional chaining

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no message isnt always going to be defined tho? otherwise it wouldnt return null?

mellow kelp Jan 20, 2021, 12:13 AM

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what?

fierce ether Jan 20, 2021, 12:14 AM

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message is returning null

mellow kelp Jan 20, 2021, 12:14 AM

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you mean the message is null?

fierce ether Jan 20, 2021, 12:14 AM

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deleted messages cant be fetched, its trying to grab the deleted message

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idk why

mellow kelp Jan 20, 2021, 12:14 AM

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yea well deleted messages can't be fetched because they don't exist

fierce ether Jan 20, 2021, 12:15 AM

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u can fetch ids thats it

mellow kelp Jan 20, 2021, 12:15 AM

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yeah the only thing you get is the message id

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unless the message was in the cache, but that might not always be the case

formal vine Jan 20, 2021, 12:16 AM

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So I'm barely learning how to code discord bots, and I had one up and running for a good amount of time (hosted off of my PC) and all of a sudden its not working anymore. The bot appears to be online in discord, but commands don't work. It shouldn't be online as I have closed the CMD prompt. But its online, with no responses to commands...

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Any fixes?

mellow kelp Jan 20, 2021, 12:17 AM

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did you close the terminal just a few moments ago?

formal vine Jan 20, 2021, 12:17 AM

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It's been closed all day

mellow kelp Jan 20, 2021, 12:17 AM

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o

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panik

formal vine Jan 20, 2021, 12:18 AM

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I'm assuming its open in some background somewhere

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but Its no where in task manager

mellow kelp Jan 20, 2021, 12:18 AM

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regenerate the token slick

formal vine Jan 20, 2021, 12:19 AM

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I'll try that lol, thanks!

mellow kelp Jan 20, 2021, 12:20 AM

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np

formal vine Jan 20, 2021, 12:29 AM

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can someone explain this, It was fine yesterday but this is what is messing everything up

mellow kelp Jan 20, 2021, 12:30 AM

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a package.json name needs to be lowercase

formal vine Jan 20, 2021, 12:30 AM

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lmfaoo is that all it was?!

mellow kelp Jan 20, 2021, 12:30 AM

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there are other rules but that one's the problem here

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yea KEKW

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you probably wanna use something like philosophy-bot

formal vine Jan 20, 2021, 12:30 AM

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would that stop the entire thing from working?

mellow kelp Jan 20, 2021, 12:30 AM

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nope

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its just a display name

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but it's better to have it match the regex

formal vine Jan 20, 2021, 12:31 AM

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now its just not going online lmfaoo

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Idk if something updated or what

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but now I run it and nothing happens

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no error just nothign

mellow kelp Jan 20, 2021, 12:31 AM

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well

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did you use your package.json name somewhere?

formal vine Jan 20, 2021, 12:32 AM

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not that I see

mellow kelp Jan 20, 2021, 12:32 AM

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hm

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no idea

formal vine Jan 20, 2021, 12:32 AM

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alrighty lmfao

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thanks again ❤️

mellow kelp Jan 20, 2021, 12:32 AM

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np

earnest phoenix Jan 20, 2021, 12:52 AM

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Would a simple economy SQLITE3 database be fine for a private discord server with 5000 members?
Will just store balance and bank balance

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Should be fine right?

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Ping with response, ty

odd stratus Jan 20, 2021, 12:56 AM

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earnest phoenix Would a simple economy SQLITE3 database be fine for a private discord server wit...

Yes it's fine

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If you have a big bot with shards then sqlite probably isn't a good choice

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But for private servers ye

earnest phoenix Jan 20, 2021, 1:02 AM

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it isn't fine on that big of a scale 👁️👄👁️

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it's going to struggle

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i mean

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it depends on the amount of concurrent issues

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but it's going to struggle

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:04 AM

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it will be more than fine

earnest phoenix Jan 20, 2021, 1:05 AM

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are you sure? i worked on a kind of a big guild and migrated their bot from sqlite to postgres because people started experiencing bigger delays than usual

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:05 AM

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disable synchroniztion, enable WAL mode

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im getting average 0.3ms per query

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sqlite can easily do 1k+ queries per second

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 1:09 AM

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so i'm using djs.

let time = args[1]```
i made sure that `time` endswith d, h, m, s. Then i want to multiply the number included but before that, i gotta take away d, h, m,s from the args

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like 1d

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then take away the d

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and make it just 1

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:10 AM

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.slice(-1)

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 1:10 AM

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ok

hoary crown Jan 20, 2021, 1:11 AM

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ye can someone help me

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distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 1:11 AM

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hoary crown Jan 20, 2021, 1:11 AM

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I don't know why i'm getting undefined servers

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 1:11 AM

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........

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hmmmm

hoary crown Jan 20, 2021, 1:11 AM

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lol

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 1:11 AM

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code?

ebon kelp Jan 20, 2021, 1:11 AM

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well because it's undefined

hoary crown Jan 20, 2021, 1:12 AM

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bot.on('ready', () => {
    console.log(`${bot.user.username} has started`);
    bot.user.setActivity(`!help -- on ${bot.guilds.size} servers`, { type: "WATCHING" }); // Set Bot Status & Presence
});

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:12 AM

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.cache.size

ebon kelp Jan 20, 2021, 1:12 AM

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bot.guilds.cache.size

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yes

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 1:13 AM

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uhh halp

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quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:13 AM

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reaction doesnt exist

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 1:14 AM

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wdym?

earnest phoenix Jan 20, 2021, 1:14 AM

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odd stratus Yes it's fine

Alright, good, tyvm

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:14 AM

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the message does not have that reaction

misty sigil Jan 20, 2021, 1:14 AM

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you cannot get a property of undefined

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 1:14 AM

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it does

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giveawayMsg.react('🎉')```

odd stratus Jan 20, 2021, 1:14 AM

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earnest phoenix it isn't fine on that big of a scale 👁️👄👁️

I have a levels system in a partnered server with over 160k members and its pretty fast with sqlite

misty sigil Jan 20, 2021, 1:14 AM

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its like doing undefined.count

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:14 AM

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did you await it?

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 1:15 AM

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uhh await the reaction?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:15 AM

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yes

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 1:15 AM

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no

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i just put

giveawayMsg.react('🎉')```

earnest phoenix Jan 20, 2021, 1:15 AM

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Might include levels for that too then

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 1:15 AM

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await giveawayMsg.react('🎉')``` how about this?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:15 AM

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then you're trying to get the reaction before its added

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you have to await it yes

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 1:15 AM

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okay

odd stratus Jan 20, 2021, 1:16 AM

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Make sure you have async mmulu

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:16 AM

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make sure you have brains :^)

odd stratus Jan 20, 2021, 1:16 AM

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mikebruh

ebon kelp Jan 20, 2021, 1:16 AM

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oof

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 1:17 AM

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Uhh, right when i did the command it sent this

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i use set timeout

ebon kelp Jan 20, 2021, 1:17 AM

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ppBlind

odd stratus Jan 20, 2021, 1:17 AM

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thinking_2

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Bro my eyes

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 1:17 AM

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if (giveawayMsg.reactions.cache.get("🎉").count <= 1) {
    return channel.send('**There is not enough people to end the giveaway! Cancelling...**')
}```

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 1:17 AM

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odd stratus Bro my eyes

lol

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:18 AM

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show more code

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 1:18 AM

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ok

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setTimeout(() => {
  if (giveawayMsg.reactions.cache.get("🎉").count <= 1) {
    return channel.send('**There is not enough people to end the giveaway! Cancelling...**')
  }

  else{
    let winner = giveawayMsg.reactions.cache.get("🎉").users.cache.filter((u) => !u.bot).random();
    channel.send(`**Congratulations ${winner.toString()}! You won ${prize}!**`)
  }
}, time)```

ebon kelp Jan 20, 2021, 1:19 AM

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yikesJam

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:20 AM

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how is time defined

ebon kelp Jan 20, 2021, 1:20 AM

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time should be in ms

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 1:20 AM

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quartz kindle how is time defined

let time = args[1]```

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:20 AM

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@_@

ebon kelp Jan 20, 2021, 1:20 AM

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multiple it by 1000

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 1:20 AM

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time.slice(-1)

            if(time.endsWith('d')){
                time = time*86400000
            }

            else if(time.endsWith('h')){
                time = time*3600000
            }

            else if(time.endsWith('m')){
                time = time*60000
            }

            else if(time.endsWith('s')){
                time = time*1000
            }```

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 1:20 AM

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ebon kelp multiple it by 1000

I did

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:20 AM

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slice does not modify the original

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also, you're checking if it ends with the letter, then multiplying it without removing the letter

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so it becomes NaN

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 1:22 AM

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quartz kindle slice does not modify the original

how do i fix that

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:22 AM

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why you multiplying and slicing?

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keep consistency

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 1:22 AM

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wdym

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:22 AM

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you got a number

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in once case you're slicing it

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rather that multiplying/dividing it

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and the second you're multplying

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why ?

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 1:23 AM

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...

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im confused

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:23 AM

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you know what slice does, right?

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 1:23 AM

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yeah

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:23 AM

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okay, so what is slice doing there?

ebon kelp Jan 20, 2021, 1:23 AM

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"hello!".slice(-1) => "!"

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 1:24 AM

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opal plank okay, so what is slice doing there?

to take away the letters at the end

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 1:24 AM

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ebon kelp "hello!".slice(-1) => "!"

hm

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:24 AM

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slice(0, thing.length - 1)

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:25 AM

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slice(0, -1)

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:25 AM

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does that work?

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 1:25 AM

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what does 0 mean?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:25 AM

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ye

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:25 AM

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onteresting

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might upgrade to that

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less chars

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:25 AM

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one of the improvements that slice made over substring and substr are negative indexes

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they basically wrap around

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 1:26 AM

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time.slice(0, -1)``` what about this?

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:26 AM

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quartz kindle slice does not modify the original

this

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:26 AM

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slice does not modify the original

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do you understand what that means?

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:26 AM

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quartz kindle slice does not modify the original

3fast5me

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 1:26 AM

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So, can i do js const time2 = time.slice(0, -1)

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:26 AM

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yes

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 1:26 AM

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k

ebon kelp Jan 20, 2021, 1:26 AM

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clap

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:27 AM

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whispers softly in ears : variables can be reassigned

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:27 AM

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damn i want js to add pattern matching expressions asap

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this is a perfect use case for them

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:27 AM

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it does?

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matchAll()

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:27 AM

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not that

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:28 AM

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then?

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timmy furiously typing

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 1:29 AM

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Thanks @quartz kindle @opal plank , it worked! happyblob

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:29 AM

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new thing in php ```php
$result = match(a) {
"h" => time * 3600000,
"m" => time * 60000,
"s" => time * 1000
}

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:29 AM

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no preblomo

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:29 AM

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pattern matching expression

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aka match expression

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aka better switch

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:29 AM

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hmmmm

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i see what you mean but thats basically a match() + a switch and a for, no?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:30 AM

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it exists in rust, scala and F#

lyric mountain Jan 20, 2021, 1:30 AM

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And java

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:30 AM

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and java

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there is a proposal for c++

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and a very early one for js with ugly af syntax

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which i hope it doesnt pass

lyric mountain Jan 20, 2021, 1:30 AM

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Lul

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:30 AM

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im not keeping up with upcoming changes tbh

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nor proposals

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though what i am trying to keep uo with is sharding

lyric mountain Jan 20, 2021, 1:31 AM

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Although it'd be be better than some chained ifs I see here

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:31 AM

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but im probably gonna cry with it

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:31 AM

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me neither, but i looked into php8 and saw that and though it was cool af

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:31 AM

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im gonna have to somehow prevent racing against other shards

lyric mountain Jan 20, 2021, 1:31 AM

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opal plank im gonna have to somehow prevent racing against other shards

You could use queues

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:31 AM

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opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:31 AM

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thought about it, but they are REALLY slow

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like, signigicantly

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grammar is hard sometimes

lyric mountain Jan 20, 2021, 1:32 AM

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What about using locks then?

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Like mutex

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:32 AM

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thats an option, but i need to first check if its a necessity first

misty sigil Jan 20, 2021, 1:32 AM

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php lol

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:32 AM

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this might be a rare case of race

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all this is beacuse d.js sucks

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:33 AM

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what are you racing against?

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:33 AM

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shards presences

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why not to literally like mine or all other libs and just reemit everything into a single client?

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but no, lets have them have their own instances

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cuz fuck you

lyric mountain Jan 20, 2021, 1:34 AM

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I think mutex will be the only way to do it without sacrificing speed

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:34 AM

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what is the issue?

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:34 AM

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presence triggers

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shards may emit same presence if users are on different shards

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:34 AM

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ah

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:34 AM

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and them running simultaniously might trigger events twice in a race

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in some VERY rare cases

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i have checks

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but my concern is that they run before the variable is set

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and locks it

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:35 AM

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never tested that, but im pretty sure it would happen also with internal sharding

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where are you setting the variable?

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:35 AM

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well, i got user object(not d.js's)

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which has 2 keys

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well, improtant to this matter at least

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reminded and playing

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reminded is a bool

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if user is playing x game, it runs a reminder function and then sets that reminded as true

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though, if they are run in pararell, shit might happen

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and the reminder is ran twice before the reminded is set to true

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:36 AM

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so the variable is set in memory in process?

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:36 AM

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correct

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:36 AM

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y not a db

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:37 AM

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cuz that'd add even more latency and allow for even more stuff to pass by

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await shouldnt stop the thread, and possibly add even more gap for another race promise to fulfill

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:37 AM

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are you using worker threads or child processes?

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:37 AM

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currently, neither

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im still thinking of the logic behind it

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wondering if i should use d.js sharder

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or not

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or make my own, for that matter

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:38 AM

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you can use worker threads with a sharedArrayBuffer and implement it as a circular buffer

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:38 AM

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did not understand half of what you said

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:38 AM

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worker threads

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:38 AM

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i know those

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:38 AM

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sharedArrayBuffer

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:38 AM

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sharedArrayBuffer and circular buffer

lyric mountain Jan 20, 2021, 1:39 AM

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Let's say I have guild A on shard 1 and guild B on shard 2, both shards on separate VPSs.

Can I retrieve guild A inside shard 2?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:39 AM

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sharedArrayBuffer = ArrayBuffer that is shared across worker threads

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:39 AM

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okay that makes sense

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:39 AM

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aka thread 1 changes first byte to 1, thread 2 reads first byte and sees 1

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all writes on sharedArrayBuffer are atomic

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:40 AM

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alright

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what about circular buffer?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:40 AM

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sharedArrayBuffer has a constraint that its limited to a fixed size

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you cannot resize it once you create it

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:40 AM

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quartz kindle you cannot resize it once you create it

this seems like a major block for me

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:40 AM

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so a circular buffer is a way to implement a sort of an infinite data stream

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:40 AM

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since there are thousands of users

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:41 AM

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you write until the end of the buffer, then you continue writing from the beginnign again

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:41 AM

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and they are added removed dynamically

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:41 AM

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and you use two pointers to control boundaries

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:41 AM

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that sounds more complicated than doing my own sharder to be completely honest

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specially when i already have my twitch framework

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:42 AM

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well, your only other option is a db, redis, or lockfile or mutex

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or a central process with ipc

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:42 AM

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wouldnt a db or redis still imply the same issue and allow race between calls?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:42 AM

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no because they are atomic

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:43 AM

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hmmmm deadlocks might trigger though

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:43 AM

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well, the process thats accessing the db would need to queue it to ensure atomicity

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so that would be a problem

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:44 AM

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hmmm, this is all theorical btw, i havent ACTUALLY tested if i'll be getting double output

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for simplicity sake i might run with queue

lyric mountain Jan 20, 2021, 1:44 AM

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lyric mountain Let's say I have guild A on shard 1 and guild B on shard 2, both shards on separ...

I need to know if I'll need to rework my matchmaking system

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:44 AM

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the database needs to have a conditional write operation

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:44 AM

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and see how that performs

lyric mountain Jan 20, 2021, 1:45 AM

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Like, I'm still at 1k servers, but I'm near a total rework of the code

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Just waiting discord's menus

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:45 AM

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lyric mountain I need to know if I'll need to rework my matchmaking system

you can fetch the guild from the rest api

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and you can send requests to the api

lyric mountain Jan 20, 2021, 1:45 AM

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Ok, I'm safe then

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I thought guilds were locked to their shards

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:45 AM

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only gateway commands

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not rest

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:46 AM

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soon enough i'll have to worry about sharding, its growing faster by the day

📎 unknown.png

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but for now i got a lot of lee way

lyric mountain Jan 20, 2021, 1:46 AM

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Maximum I'd need to do is retrieve channel and send message

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:46 AM

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you dont need the guild to get a channel

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in fact if you have the channel id, you dont even need to retrieve the channel

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:47 AM

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POST

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:47 AM

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you can just post directly to it and handle the error

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:47 AM

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channel_id/messages iirc

lyric mountain Jan 20, 2021, 1:47 AM

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Nice

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:47 AM

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client.api.channels(id).messages().post({uvuvwevwevwe})

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actually sending messages is PUT no?

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:48 AM

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TYPE ERROR: API IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE INSIDE CLIENT CLASS

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mmulu

lyric mountain Jan 20, 2021, 1:48 AM

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I was afraid because I rely on message mirroring

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:48 AM

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let me check docs

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:48 AM

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opal plank ```TYPE ERROR: API IS ONLY ACCESSIBLE INSIDE CLIENT CLASS```

wut

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:48 AM

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client.api is private

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not public

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:48 AM

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dont use ts then

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:49 AM

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TS will screech at u

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mmulu

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📎 unknown.png

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nope, i think i was right

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:49 AM

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ah

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:49 AM

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https://discord.com/developers/docs/resources/channel#create-message

Discord Developer Portal

Discord Developer Portal — API Docs for Bots and Developers

Integrate your service with Discord — whether it's a bot or a game or whatever your wildest imagination can come up with.

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:49 AM

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anyways

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for your issue

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:50 AM

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throw salt and lemon in eyes, gotcha

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:50 AM

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the sharedArrayBuffer method would offer the best possible performance

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the second best performance would be to have one of your worker processes keep the data, and have the other workers send messages to it

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:50 AM

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the only reason why im bringing up that is because its presence realted

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like

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its a LOT

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:51 AM

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ye

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:51 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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that comes to show how much more data you receieve with presnces

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in 7 days uptime

📎 unknown.png

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234 mil presences parsed

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:51 AM

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nice

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:51 AM

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its too much

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thats why im worried about performance in this case

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:52 AM

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go for the worker thing then

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have 1 worker keep the data

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:52 AM

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IPC i assume?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:52 AM

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yes

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ipc between worker processes is very efficient

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and can send js objects without stringifying

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:52 AM

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how does that fix the issue though?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:52 AM

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and functions and classes and shit

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:52 AM

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cuz i already have a bool

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i'd still need to queue it, no?

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cuz the object containing the reminded bool is also the same thing, correct?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:53 AM

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yes, but you queue it in one process

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:53 AM

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i just dont see how the worker solves the issue

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they both try to change the bool, the issue is when they race it

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and run while the bool is set

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:54 AM

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they both change -> both send to worker -> worker changes 1, ignores the other, and returns responses -> worker who gets the successful response runs the function, the other does nothing

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:54 AM

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thats not the issue though

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actually

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hmmm

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lemme get my head straight

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okay, yeah, no, i think im right on this one

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so, the issue comes with whats happening WHILE the bool hasnt been set and its waiting

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for example

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actually, why am i giving example?

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let me just dump code

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see that for loop or await add new user?

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those are my issues

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while that await is running, user.playing might pass

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twice before its been updated

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its this code but ran twice

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 1:57 AM

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if everything is inside the same process, this is not hard to solve

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but if you have multiple process, then you literally cant solve it. you have to send everything to a single process to be executed synchronously and sequentially

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 1:58 AM

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after presence is found i could just yoink into the queue, thats 100% a solution as it would, at the very least, massively reduce the queue, since it'd only be passed with that

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rather than queuing every presence, i could run that check to find a specific presence(which i should be running by game id, not by name) and queue it

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that MIGHT not prove too impactful

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:00 AM

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this is how i would solve something like this:

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:00 AM

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it boils down a lot to try and error, im not even sure a race would occur here at all, this is all assumptions

earnest phoenix Jan 20, 2021, 2:02 AM

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just brought a vps for my bot lol

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i hosted in on my laptop

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:03 AM

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// shard 1 and shard 2
client.on("presenceUpdate", bla => {
  let(a of bla.activities) {
    if(a.name === "yes") {
      worker.postMessage(bla)
      return;
    }
  }
});

// worker
let users = {};
process.on("message", async etc => {
  if(!users[etc.user.id]) {
    await addNewUser(...)
  }
})

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:03 AM

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wouldnt runnig it async completely fuck ti up though?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:04 AM

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nope

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:04 AM

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hmmm it seems i dont quite understand how js async works internally

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sometimes i get the idea that it doesnt halt the code, but sometimes it does

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the rest keeps on going, which is kinda odd

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:05 AM

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js is 100% synchronous, everything is blocking

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:05 AM

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that specific script halts while the await is runing until its fullfilled

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:05 AM

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even if you make an async function, the code is still sync

misty sigil Jan 20, 2021, 2:05 AM

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javascript is confusing and stupid at times

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:05 AM

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well yeah, thats where the confusion comes

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that allows for other scripts to be ran meanwhile

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which could be annoying when they are touching the same things

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like this where it might create a rare race condition

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:05 AM

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what it does is that if you make a function async, you "prepare" it for a possible async operation

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and the code only stops being sync then the actual async operation begins

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the actual async operation begins the moment there is no more sync code to execute

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for example a callback

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or an I/O request

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:06 AM

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so if i run a 2 functions

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one async and one sync

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when the async one hits an await

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the sync one (pararell) should still be going, no?

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until the await finishes

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then it continues on the one that was halted(awaited)

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did i get it right?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:07 AM

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if the sync one starts after the async one, the sync one only starts when the async one hits an async code

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await does not guarantee its actual async code

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because you can still await sync stuff for some reason

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also

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:08 AM

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in the case of a promise though

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:08 AM

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when you await an async function, like a promise

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:08 AM

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actually i might be able to try this real time

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:08 AM

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its still sync code until the code inside the promise hits something it cant continue

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async function bla() {
  // sync
  return new Promise(r => {
    // still sync
    doSomething(() => {
      // async starts here, js cannot execute this without waiting
      r(10)
    });
    // this is still sync
    console.log(20)
  })
}

console.log(await bla()) // 20, 10

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:11 AM

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async function a() {
console.log('start')
console.log(await db.get('something'));
console.log('end')
}
function b() {

for(let i, i < 1000, i++) console.log(i);
}

My probably flunked logic states that, if ran simultaneously, the async functions will run first with start, then function b will spam console log, i'll get the returned value of the await and end, and then the rest of the console log i's will end

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am i correct to say that?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:12 AM

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correct

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but if db.get() has a console.log inside it before the actual db call, that console.log is executed before function b

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:12 AM

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so its kinda like blocking? where it'll run async until it hits a block, then i'll run the rest until the promise is fullfiled, which then it gets back to the async, and once it finishes, comes back to the sync code?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:13 AM

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yes

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under the hood this is all done with timers

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the same as setTimeout

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:13 AM

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interesting

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:13 AM

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when the js code hits an await, it sets a timer and continues the rest of the code

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:14 AM

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default is 15 or 30 seconds to auto reject promise, no?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:14 AM

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the only difference is that the timer is based on signalling instead of time counting

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:14 AM

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maybe thats axios i think

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:14 AM

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promises dont auto reject

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:14 AM

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i thought promises had a maximum life ebfore they were rejected

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:14 AM

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not afaik

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:15 AM

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hmmmm

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i see

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okay that makes a lot more sense now

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:18 AM

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in the case of the worker receiving messages, or any event emitter

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js cannot ever handle two messages or two events simultaneously, it will always process them sequentially

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so before the second message has a chance to be processed, the first message already checks if the user exists in the object, and if it doesnt exist, it creates it, before proceeding with the async call

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so while the async call is waiting, and the second message comes, the user is already in the object so it does not proceed anymore (which i actually forgot to add in the previous examples)

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let users = {};
process.on("message", async etc => {
  if(!users[etc.user.id]) {
    users[etc.user.id] = true
    await addNewUser(...)
  }
})

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:25 AM

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quartz kindle so while the async call is waiting, and the second message comes, the user is al...

well, in a single process, sure, but what happens when we add sharding onto the mix?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:25 AM

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thats the idea behind using the worker process

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:25 AM

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where we have two processes handling two events simultaniously(and likely echoed)

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:26 AM

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have all shards redirect the events to the same worker to be processed sequentially

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like a funnel

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:26 AM

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which is what i began whining about

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:26 AM

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well

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its more efficient than a database and more efficient than a lock file

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just less efficient than sharedArrayBuffer

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:27 AM

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opal plank why not to literally like mine or all other libs and just reemit everything into...

this

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:27 AM

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you dont need to emit everything, only that specific thing

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:27 AM

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well yeah

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could queue it, which should do almost the same thing

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no?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:28 AM

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you have to queue it in the same process

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:28 AM

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hmmm, IPC it is then

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:28 AM

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another option is using a database that can do conditional updates

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something like db.setIfNotExists

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:28 AM

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does d.js spawner allow me to bind each shard ?

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i would assume its all used by process.send()

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:29 AM

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if you're using djs, just use broadcastEval

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but yes you can use process.send() if you set it to worker mode

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:29 AM

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confuseddog

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oh

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how would broadcastEval be used here? that would just eval something on all shards, no?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:30 AM

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process.send() with the sharding manager in worker mode will basically send a message to the sharding manager

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:30 AM

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and return them

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002_think

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:30 AM

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opal plank how would broadcastEval be used here? that would just eval something on all shar...

well yeah, i was actually thinking about something else, idk why i said broadcastEval

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:31 AM

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using an emitter would be the proper way no? that way i dont have to run setInterval

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cuz otherwise i risk losing positions

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hmmmm

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:31 AM

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djs has client.shard.send()

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:31 AM

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and i assume i can easily access sharding manager and re-emit that to my main code no?

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shard => process.send('presence', presence)

manager.on('presence') => client.emit('event', presence)

client.on('event', presence => stuff and things)

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that SHOULD work i assume?

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while the client part isnt teoretically necessary, i like to keep client related stuff binded there

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:33 AM

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sure

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but yeah its not necessary

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do you have a client in the sharding manager?

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:33 AM

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its just for consistency, shouldnt add to much strain to just re-emit it

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:33 AM

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or a pseudo client

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:34 AM

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im not sure

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like i said, i ahvent even started with sharding

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so im not sure how it works

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:34 AM

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the sharding manager doesnt have a client

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:34 AM

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i'd probably need a pseudo then

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actually

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ACTUALLY

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can i not do the same that i did with my library then?

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confusedcat

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and just do EXACTLY what i did but with EVERY incoming event?

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and emit it to the manager, and re-emit to client?

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that would literally require no update on the code whatsoever, no? just adding the sharder

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//shard 1
client.on('message', process.send('message', (message)));

//shard 2
client.on('message', process.send('message', (message)));


//index
manager.on('message', message => client.emit('message', message));


client.on('message', (message) => {/*actual code here*/})

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for every event?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:38 AM

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i mean

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:38 AM

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thats literally what i did to my twitch lib, but i needed the manager because there were custom events there that were internal and shouldnt be exposed to the end user, like Promises between the IPC pipes for connections and sync events, so only the events that the client originally had were re-emitted

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:38 AM

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you can

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but that will that client be?

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surely not a discord.js client

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:38 AM

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i can make a super shit client

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should i not initiate a new client?

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for each shard?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:38 AM

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you can instantiate it, but not login with it

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in the manager i mean

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:38 AM

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002_think

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not sure i get it

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:39 AM

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you're sending all events to the manager

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:39 AM

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correct

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:39 AM

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then process them with a client in the manager?

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:39 AM

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but the client in the shard cant login?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:39 AM

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in the shard yes

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but not the one in the manager

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:39 AM

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well, yes

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then whats the issue?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:39 AM

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nothing, just weird

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i wouldnt do it like that tho, at least not without some basic filtering

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:40 AM

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//shard 1
const Discord = new require('Discord').Client(require('./config.json').token);
client.login();
client.on('message', process.send('message', (message)));

//shard 2
const Discord = new require('Discord').Client(require('./config.json').token);
client.login();
client.on('message', process.send('message', (message)));


//index
const Discord = new require('Discord').Client(require('./config.json').token);
client.login();
manager.on('message', message => client.emit('message', message));
client.on('message', (message) => {/*actual code here*/})

Is this not valid?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:41 AM

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no because 1: the client in the manager will error with sharding required

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2: the client in the manager will basically spawn duplicated shards

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:41 AM

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hmmm manager uses its own client i assume?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:42 AM

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you have 2k guilds, shard 1 has 1k, shard 2 has another 1k

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what would the manager have?

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:42 AM

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or, rather, manager IS the client?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:42 AM

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the manager is not a client

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the manager is just a process spawner

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and ipc bridge

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:42 AM

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hmmm so you are suggesting the manager doesnt exclude the initial client?

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002_think

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i would assume you could pass the client to the manager and it would shard it

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:43 AM

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im suggesting that if you are gonna redirect all events to the manager, you are gonna have to process them with your own code, without a discord.js client

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:43 AM

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but i need to login in order to recieve events no?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:43 AM

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you're receiving them in the shards

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not in the manager

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:44 AM

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im confused, how are they being recieved in the shards then?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:44 AM

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each shard has a discord.js client

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it logs in

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receives events

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:44 AM

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how to you access events inside the shard?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:44 AM

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then if you send all events to a different process

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this different process has no client

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:45 AM

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hmmm i think i see what you mean

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HMMMMM

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:45 AM

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HMMMMM

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:46 AM

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that would give a ton of troubles for me though

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specially with caching]

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d.'js cache, for that matter

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:46 AM

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thats another issue

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where do you want the cache to be?

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:46 AM

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my main client wouldnt have all guilds cache

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:46 AM

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in the shards or in the manager?

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:46 AM

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the other cache is fine

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manager would be best to have everything cetralized, the idea was to simply spawn shards to basically be event slaves

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where they would recieve and re-emit to main

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:46 AM

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yes

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then you need to build your own handler and your own cache

summer torrent Jan 20, 2021, 2:47 AM

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anyone here using datadog

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:47 AM

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the moment you redirect the event to another process, discord.js no longer has control over it

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:47 AM

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couldnt i sync it?

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i did syncs in my lib too

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:47 AM

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yes but it can be really wonky

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:47 AM

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every 30 seconds i would run an eval on every slave and return all cache

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im not using message or anything of the sort

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:48 AM

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thats basically gonna double your ram

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:48 AM

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hmmm, theres that too

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:48 AM

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i mean

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:48 AM

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wait

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:48 AM

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im pretty sure those uber big bots with millions of servers do that

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a farm of slave shards

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:48 AM

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actually

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:49 AM

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but then again, they dont use discod.js

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:49 AM

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what if i do it cacheless?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:49 AM

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thats even better

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:49 AM

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not that way

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cachefull but cacheless

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:49 AM

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wat

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lmao

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basically your own cache?

misty sigil Jan 20, 2021, 2:49 AM

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quartz kindle a farm of slave shards

out of context this is weird lmao

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:49 AM

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lmao

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:49 AM

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each shard is cacheless, on recieving events i'd mimic the same that would happen when discord.js recieves an even nateively directly from discord, where it constructs the message, the guilds, all that

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pass it to main and construct it there. Cache in the main client

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:50 AM

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yes

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:50 AM

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can i not mimic a sent even from the slave to my main client as it was coming from discord directly, so it handles the cache as normal?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:50 AM

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you probably dont wanna use discord.js for that tho

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but you can

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:51 AM

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okays thats at least a lot of options, but lets hear your best one, since im worried about performance

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all those are DOABLE but probably shit

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what do you have in mind?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:51 AM

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if i were to make a giant bot

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it probably do something like this

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lets say 1 million guilds

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 2:52 AM

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Uhh so i made a drop command, but i need the bot to know when the first user adds a reaction

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how do i do that?

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:53 AM

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10 processes, in a 10 core vps
each process has 100 shards, using a raw websocket lib
each process receives raw events from 100 shards, and filters them based on some predefined criteria, like commands, prefixes, etc
once an event passes the criteria, it can be sent via IPC to a master process
the master process then does caching, handling, database, etc, and responds directly to the discord rest api

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 2:54 AM

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....

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:54 AM

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quartz kindle 10 processes, in a 10 core vps each process has 100 shards, using a raw websocke...

this is roughly the idea i had with the slaves i sent above

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:54 AM

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yes

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:55 AM

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let the spawner deal with the sharding by itself, it should be fine, but then re-emit everything into master, where the main client is, and simply have the client handle it like it would normally

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like, for example

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:55 AM

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you can trick discord.js into doing what you want

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 2:55 AM

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distant cobalt Uhh so i made a drop command, but i need the bot to know when the first user add...

anybody?

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sad_kuromi

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:56 AM

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quartz kindle you can trick discord.js into doing what you want

i could construct it and save it as new Message() no? there are constructors

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though i could simply just attach it to the corresponding maps d.js has

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:56 AM

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shard.on("message", (event, ...data) => {
  client.ws.emit(event, ...data)
})

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:56 AM

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i dont think i can access a websocket connection to mess with that

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thats the idea i was going for

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use the websocket in a 3 way

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:57 AM

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you will need to listen to the raw event in the shards

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:57 AM

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and use the data recieved from the shard and emit into d.js's main client as a websocket event

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:57 AM

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and forward the raw data

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:57 AM

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yeah, that

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the ONLY purpose of the slaves is to re-emit stuff

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:57 AM

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then emit it in the websocketManager to trick discord into thinking it received it from ws

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the thing is

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:58 AM

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that seems, to me at least, the most efficient and less tricky solution, as it would mean i dont need to update my old code at all

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:58 AM

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if the slaves dont do anything other than reemit

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:58 AM

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oh shit

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yeah

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:58 AM

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then you will have a stupidly huge influx of events in a single process

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:58 AM

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sending mesages

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and that

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:58 AM

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thats why the shards need to do some basic filtering

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and hopefully drop at least 90% of irrelevant events

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:59 AM

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the majority of it is used though

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i would assume

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 2:59 AM

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distant cobalt Uhh so i made a drop command, but i need the bot to know when the first user add...

someone help me here sad

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 2:59 AM

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but i could filter them IN the shard

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beefore reemitting

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:59 AM

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distant cobalt someone help me here <a:sad:585885410257928194>

code

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 2:59 AM

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opal plank but i could filter them IN the shard

yes

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 3:00 AM

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reactionadd/remove/presences/memberupdates/messages, the rest i dont hink i perticurlaly need

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so voice stuff

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 3:00 AM

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quartz kindle code

const embed = new Discord.MessageEmbed()
  .setTitle('🎊 DROP')
  .setDescription(`**Instructions:**\nBe the first to           react!\n\n**Host:**\n${message.author.tag}\n\n**Prize:**\n${dropPrize}`)
  .setColor('BLUE')
 let dropMsg = channel.send(embed)
dropMsg.react('🎉') ```

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 3:00 AM

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and all that garbage could be voided

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 3:00 AM

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for example

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ignore all precences that do not include genshin

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and if you need to listen for when a user stops playing it

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keep a small cache of presences in the shards

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containing only the ones currently playing

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 3:01 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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📎 unknown.png

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those are the ones i need

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which im fairly certain i could just remove intents for the ones i dont need

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 3:02 AM

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distant cobalt ```js const embed = new Discord.MessageEmbed() .setTitle('🎊 DROP') .setDesc...

you need to await channel.send()

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else you're reacting to nothing

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 3:02 AM

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quartz kindle you need to await channel.send()

ok

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how do you have the bot say something when a user reacts

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 3:03 AM

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quartz kindle ignore all precences that do not include genshin

this also would mow down a TON of stuff

distant cobalt Jan 20, 2021, 3:04 AM

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btw, @quartz kindle you can dm me the solution, i gtg

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cya

misty sigil Jan 20, 2021, 3:04 AM

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this is big serious dev stuff

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source: my brain

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 3:05 AM

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distant cobalt how do you have the bot say something when a user reacts

if you're waiting for a single reaction, like an answer to a question, use message.awaitReactions()
if you're waiting for several users to reach for a period of time, use message.awaitReactions()
if you're waiting for users to react and want to do something for each reaction while waiting, use message.createReactionCollector()
if you want to do something everytime someone reacts, use messageReactionAdd event

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its 3am

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 3:05 AM

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chats like these are usualkly said in DAPI, its quite hard to find people here who can keep up with what discord does internally

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 3:05 AM

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i need sleep

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 3:05 AM

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all good tim

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go sleep

misty sigil Jan 20, 2021, 3:05 AM

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its 3am and same

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 3:05 AM

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ty a ton for the insight

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i'll make sure to bother you tomorrow, so wait for my wake up call

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mmulu

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 3:06 AM

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lmao

misty sigil Jan 20, 2021, 3:06 AM

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whats your wake up call

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 3:06 AM

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jk, but for real, ty for the info

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 3:06 AM

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misty sigil whats your wake up call

rise and shine

quartz kindle Jan 20, 2021, 3:06 AM

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a rooster

misty sigil Jan 20, 2021, 3:06 AM

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hehe

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 3:06 AM

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me neighbors dog

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RazorSigh

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fucker starts barking at 5am starving for food

earnest phoenix Jan 20, 2021, 3:07 AM

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my intro with extra bass

zealous dew Jan 20, 2021, 3:07 AM

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Hi tim

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Can I ask you some question relate to shard and discord.js-light

gilded olive Jan 20, 2021, 3:07 AM

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What are features noobie devs come looking to make

misty sigil Jan 20, 2021, 3:08 AM

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zealous dew Can I ask you some question relate to shard and discord.js-light

ask

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i can prob help

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 3:11 AM

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zealous dew Can I ask you some question relate to shard and discord.js-light

tim literally just said he went to sleep

opal plank Jan 20, 2021, 3:11 AM

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quartz kindle i need sleep

,

zealous dew Jan 20, 2021, 3:13 AM

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    manager.broadcastEval(
        `this.users.fetch('188242504670380033').send('Thanks for voting')`,
        0
    );

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why this is not working

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TypeError: this.users.fetch(...).send is not a function

misty sigil Jan 20, 2021, 3:13 AM

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you need to await the fetch

zealous dew Jan 20, 2021, 3:17 AM

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misty sigil you need to await the fetch

(await this.users.fetch('188242504670380033')).send('Thanks for voting') this not working too

misty sigil Jan 20, 2021, 3:17 AM

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whats erroring

zealous dew Jan 20, 2021, 3:17 AM

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UnhandledPromiseRejectionWarning: SyntaxError: Unexpected token 'this'

misty sigil Jan 20, 2021, 3:17 AM

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needs to be an async func.

zealous dew Jan 20, 2021, 3:18 AM

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don't get your point

misty sigil Jan 20, 2021, 3:18 AM

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...

zealous dew Jan 20, 2021, 3:19 AM

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can you give me more details

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    manager.broadcastEval(
        `async () => {
            const userInfo = await this.users.fetch('188242504670380033');
            userInfo.send('Thanks for voting')
        }()`,
        0
    );

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like this ?

misty sigil Jan 20, 2021, 3:21 AM

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i think that'll work

zealous dew Jan 20, 2021, 3:21 AM

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yeah it working

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thanks you

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Can I mix discord.js-light and discord.js together

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Init client with discord.js-light

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and using other remain discord.js

misty sigil Jan 20, 2021, 3:23 AM

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not really

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sometimes stuff just dies

zealous dew Jan 20, 2021, 3:23 AM

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So how can I switch from using discord.js into discord.js-light completely in fastest way

misty sigil Jan 20, 2021, 3:24 AM

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most shit is the same really

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if you have MessageEmbed, Collection, etc.

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thats the same

zealous dew Jan 20, 2021, 3:25 AM

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const { ShardingManager } = require('discord.js');

misty sigil Jan 20, 2021, 3:25 AM

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sharding manager is fine

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that can stay

zealous dew Jan 20, 2021, 3:25 AM

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like this I have to change all require('discord.js') -> require('discord.js-light')

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right ?

misty sigil Jan 20, 2021, 3:26 AM

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yep.

zealous dew Jan 20, 2021, 3:28 AM

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and all .cache.get will move into using .fetch

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and in .fetch(id,cache) there always option cache

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So I want to make cache fetch on default without pass param is it possible

zealous dew Jan 20, 2021, 4:06 AM

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    manager.broadcastEval(
        `(async () => {
            const userInfo = await this.users.fetch('188242504670380033');
            userInfo.send('Thanks for voting')
        })()`,
        0
    );

why this emit shardCreate event and it have no shards.is but it value is

{
  _eval: '(async () => {\n' +
    "\t\t\tconst userInfo = await this.users.fetch('188242504670380033');\n" +
    "\t\t\tuserInfo.send('Thanks for voting')\n" +
    '\t\t})()'
}

crystal wigeon Jan 20, 2021, 4:18 AM

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          (u) => u.id == id
        )```

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returns undefined

misty sigil Jan 20, 2021, 4:21 AM

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please dont

mellow kelp Jan 20, 2021, 4:21 AM

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you should just use client.users.cache.get('id')

misty sigil Jan 20, 2021, 4:21 AM

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^ that

restive furnace Jan 20, 2021, 5:19 AM

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actually, ur should be using client.users.fetch('id')

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there's absolutely no point using fetch, since it checks cache BEFORE requesting

cinder patio Jan 20, 2021, 6:15 AM

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Pros do const user =new Discord.User(client, {id: "id"}) if you need the user object only for sending a message to them

solemn latch Jan 20, 2021, 6:16 AM

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🤔

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that actually works?

slender thistle Jan 20, 2021, 6:20 AM

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I mean, you're just creating a fake user object that the library gets .id of

shut notch Jan 20, 2021, 6:53 AM

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Help

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I’m trying to make a bot that counts from a !start command to a !stop command?

crystal wigeon Jan 20, 2021, 7:00 AM

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ok so quick question, since i've sharded and the guilds get split, what if i have a setTimeout func that executes are a function finishes, something like refilling 8 mana every 3 mins, but because of shards it doubles the refill time refilling 9 mana every 3 mins.. im sure if i use shard.ids[0] === 0 it'll only work for the first shard and wont work for the second shard

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@umbral zealot

timber fractal Jan 20, 2021, 7:33 AM

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hey if u still need that command i have a solution but im not sure if its your package https://sourceb.in/3yKjP4n2yC wait i will dm it since much people are gonna type over this message

rocky hearth Jan 20, 2021, 7:34 AM

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function isThisPossible(a, b = a) {
  return a + b;
}
isThisPossible(2, 8); // 10
isThisPossible(2);    // 4

I want to hv the 2nd parameter defaults to the value of first parameter. Is it even possible?

cinder patio Jan 20, 2021, 7:35 AM

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yes it is

cinder patio Jan 20, 2021, 7:51 AM

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bruh the code CuriousBesant sent is correct

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there's nothing wrong with it

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then why..

rocky hearth Jan 20, 2021, 7:54 AM

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If that is correct, then I wont check for b to be undefined. That is already good and clean

vapid girder Jan 20, 2021, 7:54 AM

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raise MaxRetryError(_pool, url, error or ResponseError(cause))
urllib3.exceptions.MaxRetryError: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='https', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: //top.gg/api/bots/697463492457922571/stats (Caused by NewConnectionError('<urllib3.connection.HTTPSConnection object at 0x0000017FB7E6AC40>: Failed to establish a new connection: [Errno 11001] getaddrinfo failed'))```

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Getting this error

rocky hearth Jan 20, 2021, 7:56 AM

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That is in python, I guess?

vapid girder Jan 20, 2021, 7:56 AM

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Yes

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How to fix this error ?

slender thistle Jan 20, 2021, 8:12 AM

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Show your code

tired panther Jan 20, 2021, 8:17 AM

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I saw mee6/arcane ... bot and they have a custom avatar and custom status for servers which have premium. After my knowledge they create a second shard for the guild and then they can change the status. But how do they spawn the shard that should contain the premium guild?

tired panther Jan 20, 2021, 8:18 AM

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crystal wigeon ok so quick question, since i've sharded and the guilds get split, what if i hav...

.includes

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if(client.shard.ids.includes(0)) return console.log("hello");

crystal wigeon Jan 20, 2021, 8:21 AM

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tired panther if(client.shard.ids.includes(0)) return console.log("hello");

will it not start executing multiple times?

tired panther Jan 20, 2021, 8:22 AM

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no when its shard 0 then yes

crystal wigeon Jan 20, 2021, 8:23 AM

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tf?

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if i have a timeout func which does something it should be doubling that

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includes(0) will execute this twice if there is shard 0 and shard 1

tired panther Jan 20, 2021, 8:24 AM

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crystal wigeon includes(0) will execute this twice if there is shard 0 and shard 1

no just on shard 0

crystal wigeon Jan 20, 2021, 8:24 AM

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so what will shards.ids[0] === 0 do?

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same thing right

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if shard is 0

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only then

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but what about the guilds in shard 1? it wont even work for that?

zealous dew Jan 20, 2021, 8:25 AM

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anyone using akairo here ?

crystal wigeon Jan 20, 2021, 8:25 AM

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@tired panther

earnest phoenix Jan 20, 2021, 8:26 AM

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i have a question

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can anyone help me?

crystal wigeon Jan 20, 2021, 8:26 AM

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depends on your question

earnest phoenix Jan 20, 2021, 8:26 AM

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alright so

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if i go to my server in top,gg there are all my server but the deleted ones stays aswell how can i get that deleted?

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because its to many now

crystal wigeon Jan 20, 2021, 8:27 AM

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idk about that, maybe wait a while or something

earnest phoenix Jan 20, 2021, 8:28 AM

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i already did.

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📎 Desktop_Screenshot_2021.01.20_-_09.28.02.02.png

tired panther Jan 20, 2021, 8:28 AM

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crystal wigeon but what about the guilds in shard 1? it wont even work for that?

yes

green kestrel Jan 20, 2021, 8:33 AM

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hmm, all my shards are at 82% capacity, time to add more soon ig

cinder patio Jan 20, 2021, 8:34 AM

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flex

tired panther Jan 20, 2021, 8:35 AM

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green kestrel hmm, all my shards are at 82% capacity, time to add more soon ig

use auto mode on shard manager

green kestrel Jan 20, 2021, 8:35 AM

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💪

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doesnt work like that @tired panther

tired panther Jan 20, 2021, 8:35 AM

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green kestrel hmm, all my shards are at 82% capacity, time to add more soon ig

my shards take 1 minute to start 😭

tired panther Jan 20, 2021, 8:36 AM

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green kestrel doesnt work like that <@!691288534375596062>

u use a another libary?

green kestrel Jan 20, 2021, 8:36 AM

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adding more shards means restarting all the clusters

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and i dont do that without manual intervention

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disrupting that many servers would piss them off 😄

tired panther Jan 20, 2021, 8:36 AM

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green kestrel adding more shards means restarting all the clusters

oh, u have a bigger bot more than 25k?

green kestrel Jan 20, 2021, 8:36 AM

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65.6

tired panther Jan 20, 2021, 8:37 AM

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is this the trivia bot?

queen crane Jan 20, 2021, 8:37 AM

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lol sharding isn't that simple

green kestrel Jan 20, 2021, 8:37 AM

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yeah

tired panther Jan 20, 2021, 8:37 AM

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no its easy, use discord.js-light

green kestrel Jan 20, 2021, 8:37 AM

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not light enough for me thanks

tired panther Jan 20, 2021, 8:38 AM

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does discord-js light have cluster?

green kestrel Jan 20, 2021, 8:38 AM

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no idea

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but i know it would take a ton more ram than i do atm

dreamy trout Jan 20, 2021, 8:38 AM

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do you know how to fix dbm

cinder patio Jan 20, 2021, 8:38 AM

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discord.js-light just removes the caching mechanism of discord.js, nothing more

green kestrel Jan 20, 2021, 8:38 AM

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fix it? why, is it broken @dreamy trout ?

queen crane Jan 20, 2021, 8:38 AM

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tired panther no its easy, use discord.js-light

if your mindset is just to use a library for everything good luck maintaining a big bot lol

tired panther Jan 20, 2021, 8:38 AM

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green kestrel not light enough for me thanks

and where do u host your idea? , my hosting is ending 😭 and i do not have any money more. 4k bot bruh

dreamy trout Jan 20, 2021, 8:38 AM

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green kestrel fix it? why, is it broken <@!575625240588320798> ?

I type command and it's not working

cinder patio Jan 20, 2021, 8:39 AM

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their bot isn't written in javascript

green kestrel Jan 20, 2021, 8:39 AM

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i host at ovh on a dedicated server, bare metal

tired panther Jan 20, 2021, 8:39 AM

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cinder patio their bot isn't written in javascript

ik

cinder patio Jan 20, 2021, 8:39 AM

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then why are you recommending discord.js-light

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a node.js library

green kestrel Jan 20, 2021, 8:39 AM

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@dreamy trout unfortunately you cant really troubleshoot, DBM does everything for you, to the point of having no facilities to debug it. if you want to figure out whats going off, you need to learn to code your own bot really

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@cinder patio i could turn off caching on aegis, and each cluster would use like 10mb... im actually tempted, but it would mean a ton more db queries

dreamy trout Jan 20, 2021, 8:40 AM

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green kestrel <@!575625240588320798> unfortunately you cant really troubleshoot, DBM does ever...

no I mean dbm does everything for me I power on bot but when it's online commands doesn't work either

cinder patio Jan 20, 2021, 8:41 AM

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Brain, what do you cache? I'd imagine you don't need to cache a ton of stuff for a trivia bot

green kestrel Jan 20, 2021, 8:42 AM

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users, guilds, roles and role memberships, channels

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most of it is then written to sql for dashboard use when a user issues a command or successfully answers a question

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if i turned off caching i'd have to write that data for dashboard use at the point where i see it, which means a HUGE number of INSERT INTO ON DUPLICATE KEY UPDATE for roles when a cluster boots

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like literally millions

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booting a cluster would go from 20 secs to minutes

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the cache is small enough that i'd sooner sacrifice a bit of ram for the cache, than to do that and hammer mysql to death

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each cluster is an independent native compiled process that manages 4 shards

dreamy trout Jan 20, 2021, 8:48 AM

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now it works but why it doesn't send any emojis

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zenith terrace Jan 20, 2021, 8:55 AM

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you need the ID of the custom emoji

dreamy trout Jan 20, 2021, 8:56 AM

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oh how to get it

sacred aurora Jan 20, 2021, 8:57 AM

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try sending the emoji with \ before the emoji

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u should get <:name:id>

dreamy trout Jan 20, 2021, 8:57 AM

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thx

sacred aurora Jan 20, 2021, 8:57 AM

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sacred aurora try sending the emoji with `\` before the emoji

this is for u okay

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not the bot

dreamy trout Jan 20, 2021, 8:58 AM

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Ik

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I need to be nitro to do this

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sacred aurora Jan 20, 2021, 8:58 AM

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oof

dreamy trout Jan 20, 2021, 8:59 AM

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I think I need to login from discord bot client

sacred aurora Jan 20, 2021, 8:59 AM

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nah

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can u get a emoji from the bot cache?

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i never do that

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so i don't know exactly how

dreamy trout Jan 20, 2021, 9:00 AM

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now I've got it

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thx

sacred aurora Jan 20, 2021, 9:01 AM

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noice

dreamy trout Jan 20, 2021, 9:02 AM

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now it does send emojis

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zealous dew Jan 20, 2021, 9:04 AM

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I am using akairo and want to using all framework function
Example:
?cf h 3000
?cf 3000 h
my currently args
js args: [ { id: 'face', type: 'string', }, { id: 'betMoney', type: 'number', }, ],
it's working in case one but in second it swap position make anything messy so I there anyway we can do it working in both way without check it in exec() Anyone can help me?

dreamy trout Jan 20, 2021, 9:12 AM

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sorry I can't help u I'm not using akiro

zealous dew Jan 20, 2021, 9:19 AM

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it ok

fair axle Jan 20, 2021, 9:30 AM

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I have a problem. I don't know how to say it but I'll try.
I am making a twitch stream notification system for my bot on discord.js. I have problem about thumbnails. The question isn't about twitch. I am sending an embed with stream thumbnail image. But the original image and embed's image is different.

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For example. this is an embed and when I click open original

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images are different but same link

wintry pier Jan 20, 2021, 9:32 AM

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!b invite

fair axle Jan 20, 2021, 9:33 AM

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When I make it .setThumbnail the problem solves but I want it to be .setImage

earnest phoenix Jan 20, 2021, 9:39 AM

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