development

[vernal rivet]

Dead

[lyric mountain]

It's already rotting

[crimson vapor]

lmao

[lyric mountain]

Almost becoming petrol

[crimson vapor]

my science work is still in flash

[hollow sedge]

My friends tell me that coding in flash is mainly graphical

[crimson vapor]

im not sure

never done it

still in my powerpoint class

[hollow sedge]

Powerpoint class??

[crimson vapor]

IT program in my school

[vernal rivet]

Computer application class, f

[crimson vapor]

so powerpoint

[hollow sedge]

Who uses powerpoint

This is so sad

[crimson vapor]

actually

[outer zenith]

well i am in college

[crimson vapor]

powerpoint is so much fucking better than that fucking shit called google slides

not even in the same league

[outer zenith]

and its a bit fucky

[vernal rivet]

I mean powerpoint > Google's bs

[lyric mountain]

PowerPoint is one of the mainstream presentation apps actually

[outer zenith]

that we have to learn cpp

[crimson vapor]

yeah

[outer zenith]

in school

rather than java

cpp shit

[crimson vapor]

I want to learn cpp and c#

but

no time

[outer zenith]

all the weird syntax compared to other languages

[vernal rivet]

C# is fairly easy ngl

[hollow sedge]

nah it can get very complicated imo

[vernal rivet]

C# > java anyday of the week except Mondays, because that's my sleep in day

[hollow sedge]

true

[sage bobcat]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[vernal rivet]

PascelCase is superior lmao

[hollow sedge]

nah

snake_case will always have a special place in my heart

[vernal rivet]

Rust is pretty lit ngl

But what's better. SCREAMING_SNAKE_CASE

[lyric mountain]

TORGUE_CASE

[hollow sedge]

global variables use that

(in python)

[vernal rivet]

Yert

Nah

Env uses it

[hollow sedge]

sorry yeah thats what i meant

[vernal rivet]

System environment variables are in that

[lyric mountain]

Do you know what I hate? _variablename

[vernal rivet]

Ew

[lyric mountain]

Why underline before names?

[hollow sedge]

i think those are for methods that are only used within the module

[vernal rivet]

That's disgusting, at least use camelCase with it lmao

[hollow sedge]

and not supposed to be used by like the people who import that module

[vernal rivet]

They are private variables

[hollow sedge]

ye

[lyric mountain]

Ah, yeah, hiding the uglies

[hollow sedge]

always hide the uglies

[vernal rivet]

Yes, aka py

[outer zenith]

lmao

i can code python in my sleep

[vernal rivet]

.NET 5 is so powerful

[outer zenith]

and java is versitlie

[lyric mountain]

Java is love

[vernal rivet]

I don't like py. Fucking whitespace syntax

[outer zenith]

camelcase > underscore

[hollow sedge]

anyone can code in their sleep, but will it work?

[outer zenith]

easy

just do print("Hello world")

a working program

[outer zenith]

i mean i code like that with java and c++ too

[hollow sedge]

just do console.log("Hello world")

[outer zenith]

so...

[hollow sedge]

a working program

[outer zenith]

cause whitespace is better for readibility

[hollow sedge]

just do Console.WriteLine("Hello World")

a working program

[vernal rivet]

Just do Console.WriteLine("Hello World");

[hollow sedge]

oh i forgot the semicolon 😭

[vernal rivet]

Lmao

[hollow sedge]

i apologize

[outer zenith]

but thats more characters lol

[hollow sedge]

its only more characters because of the method names though

lol

[lyric mountain]

Intellij be like: sout -> enter -> "Hello world"

[vernal rivet]

Syntax fucking Error, where is my semicolon that I asked for

[hollow sedge]

and it's built into python as a function

[vernal rivet]

But c# is lit, and should be taught instead of java ngl

[lyric mountain]

Nah

[hollow sedge]

^^ i agree

[outer zenith]

nah

java >

[hollow sedge]

yeah

.NET is incredibly powerful

[vernal rivet]

Nah c# > java.

[outer zenith]

while im not good at using external libraries in java

java is still the most solid language

[vernal rivet]

Yea have you see the run time for .NET 5

[lyric mountain]

No lang wars

[hollow sedge]

dude if you cant use external libraries you havent used the language

[outer zenith]

no i can

like not many tho

like i haven't done webscrapign

and lot of applicationss of codign

outside of python

[hollow sedge]

ah

[vernal rivet]

Java is solid, but c# is more fun, and is much much more versatile than java sadly

[hollow sedge]

yeah python is just so intuitive

[outer zenith]

^

if u want fun

python

easy

verrsatile and fun

[vernal rivet]

I hated py when I had to use it for school

[outer zenith]

lmao

prob because u had to use it for school

[vernal rivet]

I only use it if I need to build something that requires me to use py to do that. But that's all

Nah I hated whitespace syntax

[lyric mountain]

C# more versatile, laughs

[vernal rivet]

I get that it's for structure, but my structure is not what py wants, and basically ruins my style.

[lyric mountain]

But anyway

[vernal rivet]

C# is a go fyi

Gp*

[lyric mountain]

Gp?

[outer zenith]

the thing is

[vernal rivet]

General Purpose

[outer zenith]

no matter the language

i use whitespace format

even when its not necessary

[vernal rivet]

I prefer dealing with braces over whitespace

[outer zenith]

lmao

braces are just another unecessary addition

[vernal rivet]

Not really

Teaches what scopes are, and are easier for newer people to understand. Also helps with seeing what is in scope.

[vivid wigeon]

Laughs in C# developer

[vernal rivet]

[outer zenith]

i mean

thats what indents do too

[vernal rivet]

They laugh, but don't understand that their weak language's runtime is much much slower than .NET 5's runtime. Not even py could compete against it.

[lyric mountain]

Like, while I'd really want to argue about that (you must not consider only windows), I don't want to be yeeted by some mod

Also, py is slow af, nothing against

[hollow sedge]

who cares

[lyric mountain]

But interp langs are always slower

[vernal rivet]

I mean you still have .NET Core 3.1 should be universal

.NET Framework is windows only from what I remember

[outer zenith]

i mean i personally don't care if its slow

[hollow sedge]

yeah it is

[outer zenith]

like what am i

a corporate

no

[hollow sedge]

honestly its not that slow that it cant be used by any company anyway

it has its use cases

[vernal rivet]

^^^

[outer zenith]

especially AI

which is another reason why i like py

[vernal rivet]

Being slow can be good, but in runtimes, .NET 5 is powerful, that it can run stuff faster. That's all it means. But you still have to deal with it's build step and stuff.

I mean almost any language can deal with so. Just some better at it. Both py and c# can do so pretty well

[hollow sedge]

i dont think being slow can necessarily be good

but it can be okay in some situations

[vernal rivet]

but in the end. C# is good. Py is ok, some may think it's god tier, but I mean that's saying too much. I will say it's good, and that Glass is god tier. Fight me

[hollow sedge]

👊

[vernal rivet]

You can't deny that glass is god tier.

[hollow sedge]

idek what glass is

[vernal rivet]

Look up glass esolang

[hollow sedge]

unless you're talking about the object

"It combines an unintuitive postfix notation with heavy object-orientation" yeah no thank you

[vernal rivet]

Tell me that isnt god tier shit right there lol

[hollow sedge]

why does esolangs look exactly like wikipedia

oh its powered by mediawiki

[vernal rivet]

Because it is. Esolang is esoteric language. They are legit jokes. They have english as well lol

[hollow sedge]

oh lol

[vernal rivet]

Glass is a joke. It's not meant to be use, but I joke about it, because that syntax is god tier 👌

[hollow sedge]

nah fam

that looks like a nightmare

[vernal rivet]

That's a joke

Lmao

[hollow sedge]

i get that its a joke

but how messed up do you have to be to make this

[vernal rivet]

Lmao idk, I mean someone thought it would be ok to make lolcode

[hollow sedge]

fair

[vernal rivet]

Lol

[hollow sedge]

i mean i could see this being used for code golf

[vernal rivet]

Yert

[young flame]

hhidkk

@hollow sedge meme commands or roleplay commands

[hollow sedge]

no comprendo

[lyric mountain]

Ever searched about JSFuck?

Hello World is almost 10 lines of code

[outer zenith]

what is ur bot supposed to do

like what is ur bot

ur bot is what

[gilded olive]

a bot

[hollow sedge]

😭

[gilded olive]

Oh yea JSFuck is ....

[lyric mountain]

Imagine working with JSFON

Most secure data interchange ever

[outer zenith]

and what do u mean role play commandd

[lyric mountain]

Probably kiss, hug, laugh, etc

[gilded olive]

ez

Pull gifs from like tenor or giphy

[hollow sedge]

yeah ^

[drifting wedge]

i think the issue is the java file isnt even running

[outer zenith]

roleplay

obv

[outer zenith]

download ecliose

eclipse

pretty simple

[lyric mountain]

No, download intellij

[hollow sedge]

intellij is the best IDE

[outer zenith]

eclipse >

[hollow sedge]

• for java

[lyric mountain]

Eclipse is a mess when it comes to libs

Or vcs

Or project management

[drifting wedge]

i wanna use vsc

[hollow sedge]

thats version control

[drifting wedge]

eclispe is poopy

[hollow sedge]

not vs code

wait you did mean version control right

[lyric mountain]

Me? Yes

[hollow sedge]

yeah ok

[vernal rivet]

Vsc does a very poor job when it comes to java

[lyric mountain]

Like, vscode is too barebones to be useable for java

[vernal rivet]

^^^

[lyric mountain]

I mean, it's just a fancy text editor

[hollow sedge]

this is why you dont use java

[drifting wedge]

ok

well what can i use for java?

[vernal rivet]

Yes you can use vscode for java, but doesn't mean it's efficient

[lyric mountain]

Intellij

[drifting wedge]

with vsc i cant even run it

java scratch?

[vernal rivet]

Intellij

[lyric mountain]

It has community version

[vernal rivet]

Mhm

[lyric mountain]

Also, I highly recommend some package manager like maven or gradle

[vernal rivet]

I personally like Gradle but both work. Just different formats

[lyric mountain]

Gradle is more readable I think

[vernal rivet]

Maven uses xml

Gradle uses it's own format I think

[lyric mountain]

Yep

Maven is better for libs because it's lightweight af

[vernal rivet]

Mhm

[young flame]

is this good for default?

autoplay on and 50% volume

or should i do 100% volume and autoplay off

[vernal rivet]

50/100, or 5/10?

[young flame]

50/100

[vernal rivet]

Maybe, what library?

[young flame]

djs

well mainly anyways

i have html for oauth2

[vernal rivet]

Yea

50/100 is fine

[young flame]

alr

[vernal rivet]

You could do 70/100 maybe

[young flame]

softly vibes

[vernal rivet]

100/100 for djs from what I remember is like 300% if it's default. Idk if that's fixed

[young flame]

i broke autoplay lol

it changes the song

but there is no sound

but im to tired to fix iT

[hollow sedge]

it might be easier to code if you dont use 4 databases...but that's just me

[lyric mountain]

Fix it ralph

[young flame]

i rmeoved all of the dbs

and i had to recode everything smhhh

[hollow sedge]

which one did you pick

[young flame]

moonsql

[hollow sedge]

also you literally did it in an hour

somehow

can you tell me why i should use moonsql

can you show me what moonsql is

[young flame]

my programmings hands type faster then i can think

[hollow sedge]

does it have a github repo

[young flame]

thats why im always miss spelling words

[hollow sedge]

its still wrong but ok

[young flame]

its le private

[hollow sedge]

why

[earnest phoenix]

I shake when I code because I'm scared I might make a shitty syntax error.

[young flame]

idk

just never made it public

[hollow sedge]

why not

[young flame]

maybe next month ill make a npm for it

[earnest phoenix]

https://github.com/Alissonfelipe1234/MoonSQL aint it this

[young flame]

nah

im copyrighting him to smh

[hollow sedge]

lol hold up

why cant you make it public on github tho i dont understand

[young flame]

its alll lower cases first

[young flame]

cause its my db

i can choose if i want it public or not smh

i dont want it public rn

[hollow sedge]

im saying why not whose db is it

[young flame]

what

[hollow sedge]

listen

[earnest phoenix]

listening

[hollow sedge]

if i made a db, i would want people to use it

so i would make it public

thanks auric

[earnest phoenix]

np

[young flame]

you would

not me smh

[hollow sedge]

can you stop using smh 😭 it makes me sad

[earnest phoenix]

it seems like Reign wants to make his own decisions tbh

so let's respect that

[quartz kindle]

What does it run on?

[young flame]

ty auric

[earnest phoenix]

np

[hollow sedge]

how am i not respecting that

[young flame]

its a sqlite3/json db

[hollow sedge]

i literally cant make any decisions for you im just asking why

[young flame]

you can choose which one you want

[hollow sedge]

wait what

[earnest phoenix]

never said that u didn't

[hollow sedge]

ok so regardless of whether i can use it or not

why would i use it (what's the use case)

over other databases

[young flame]

database.storing('format', json)
```this

or sqlite

[earnest phoenix]

json tf

[lyric mountain]

Lul

[young flame]

smhh

[hollow sedge]

format is a string but json isnt

[lyric mountain]

Wouldn't it be better to make a pseudo-orm using sqlite?

[earnest phoenix]

na im joking

[hollow sedge]

ez

[lyric mountain]

Like, using json in text fields

[young flame]

format is choosing an formatting option for string stuff in the db

[lyric mountain]

Ah

[young flame]

json choose how it stores it

[hollow sedge]

whats the use case for moonsql though

over plain sqlite

[young flame]

its like mongo db but without the website

and way easier to use

[lyric mountain]

So, redis?

[hollow sedge]

how would it be easier than mongodb

so like quick.db but for mongodb?

[young flame]

var options = {
    // db_name: The name of the file that will save in the folder to hold all user warning data.
    db_name: "Ikigai"
}

options.format(config.format)

[hollow sedge]

but actually using sql

[young flame]

kinda like that

[hollow sedge]

😕

[vernal rivet]

Quick.db is dogshit. I mean what??? What are we complaining about?

[young flame]

config.format is the code frm before

[young flame]

.

[hollow sedge]

mongodb is pretty easy to use

[lyric mountain]

I mean, isn't sql purpose being using actual queries to reduce local-side processing?

[young flame]

lmao

[earnest phoenix]

you're not lying are u?

[young flame]

i like the keys

@lyric mountain idk what i want to do with it doe

[hollow sedge]

who doesnt like keys

[vernal rivet]

Maybe maybe not no one will know

[young flame]

like have a folder called /(cusotm storing name)/ and then like the db

or something

like how i did my backups using moonsql

each time someone backs up there server it ends up here

[vernal rivet]

If you want local, then quick.db is your best option, or if you want a more advanced option, then enmap exist

[young flame]

${message.guild.id}.json

or something like that

[lyric mountain]

Oh no

Json-based guild storage

[young flame]

enmap was made by evie and i wont let her win

[vernal rivet]

Don't use json for heavy data

[young flame]

its optionaL

[vernal rivet]

Json is made for lightweight data, like configs

[hollow sedge]

It's a waste of time to make it though

[vernal rivet]

Yea

[lyric mountain]

You could use redis

[young flame]

.___.

[lyric mountain]

Almost like normal json

Fast

And lightweight

[vernal rivet]

Quick.db as well

[young flame]

eh ill think about making it redis or something

[lyric mountain]

Idk quick.db

[young flame]

json, sqlite and redis eh?

[vernal rivet]

Doesn't like quick.db, smart

[lyric mountain]

No, not that

I'm a sql user

[vernal rivet]

Lol

[young flame]

same

[lyric mountain]

Postgres + sqlite for cache

[vernal rivet]

[hollow sedge]

I recently started using postgres after using mongo and I got to say, I love the query language

[young flame]

idk im pretty happy with how moonsql turned out

might change the name doe

[lyric mountain]

Postgres's sql is lovely

Meanwhile, firebird is shit

[hollow sedge]

Designing databases is more fun that I thought lol

[young flame]

whats firebird

facts

i like a good challenge

that being said coding a appp in coffeescript is

[lyric mountain]

A stone age databse that 99.9% enterprises here in brazil use

[young flame]

horrible

[mellow kelp]

oh no

[young flame]

i tried it

[lyric mountain]

It's slow af, hard af, buggy af and af in general

[young flame]

i cried so many times

[mellow kelp]

one does not simply code in coffeescript

[young flame]

AND IT ONLY WORKED FOR ONE THING SMH

i coded the app right

took 5 months

i run it

and the only thing that works

is the fucking start button

[lyric mountain]

And most importantly: firebird lags A HELL LOT if you make many transactions

[hollow sedge]

Imagine spending more than a week on something

[young flame]

[lyric mountain]

Maybe 500 transactions per second AT MOST

[young flame]

i spent 2 months on the bot im coding now

mainly because im lazy

and take 4 week breaks

[hollow sedge]

Do you guys think it's worth it to have a denormalized table for like a medium-sized application

[earnest phoenix]

I spent 2 years of coding my bot, since it's just the same code from applications.

[lyric mountain]

Denormalized?

[hollow sedge]

By medium I mean like thousands of users

[young flame]

nice

https://ikigai.xyz

[earnest phoenix]

2 weeks on making the dashboard tho since reactjs is easy

[young flame]

i wanna buuy it

but idkk

[vernal rivet]

Are we talking shit about stuff now?

[hollow sedge]

Basically like storing all information about a certain thing in one table rather than logically separating them to improve performance

[young flame]

its 2k its gonna take weeks to get 2 k again smhh

[vernal rivet]

Cause Google's apis are shit

[lyric mountain]

Oh, no, keep stuff separate

Create one database for each user if you must (if your db has schemas)

[hollow sedge]

But performance :(

I realize that

I mean have a separate version AND a denormalized one

[lyric mountain]

Big fat tables are sometimes slower than smaller relative tables

Also, it allows u to specifically get one info if you need

[hollow sedge]

Possibly, but the rows would be fat

Not necessarily the table

[lyric mountain]

Fat rows? How much?

Like, are u storing whole jsons in a row?

[hollow sedge]

I'm not explaining it well

But it's a concept that is supposed to improve performance

[zenith terrace]

anyone know why this message.guild.members.cache.filter(m => m.user.bot).size works sometimes and doesn't at the same. For one of my bots it doesn't say all the amount of bots in the server, but on another server the code works and says the correct amount of bots in a server

[hollow sedge]

For example instead of querying multiple tables for a ton of info, you would only go to a couple

[mellow kelp]

its cuz you're just using the cache

[lyric mountain]

Remember that sql is already optimized to handle many tables at once

Sometimes it's a O(1) operation

[hollow sedge]

Eh that's true

[mellow kelp]

to get the exact amount you'd have to use message.guilds.members.fetch().then(members => {...})

[lyric mountain]

Having primary keys, the time will probably be constant

[zenith terrace]

ee ok

[hollow sedge]

Hm probably

I think the benefit of doing that scales with the amount of data

[lyric mountain]

Like, I've seem both worlds

The place where I work use big fat "yo mamma" tables, and it's painful to maintain

My bot uses a lot of tables with relationships everywhere, and never had issues regarding time

[hollow sedge]

Lol yeah I see that

[lyric mountain]

Not to say, they store xmls in table rows 😆

[oak cliff]

@earnest phoenix dont be asking people to vote for your bot, thank you.

[lyric mountain]

Wut, where?

[oak cliff]

i deleted it.

[earnest phoenix]

who is the fucking snitch here

[oak cliff]

no one

I read it

[hollow sedge]

bruh

[earnest phoenix]

sure

[oak cliff]

cause its my job

[hollow sedge]

wouldnt be a problem if someone did anyway

[oak cliff]

now dont do it again

[earnest phoenix]

@Cloudfox#6783

it will

[hollow sedge]

dude just leave

stop

[earnest phoenix]

no

i hate snitches

[lyric mountain]

It'll not, it's in the rules

[oak cliff]

cool, we dont care

[hollow sedge]

ok well i hate you

[earnest phoenix]

@oak cliff

shut up

[hollow sedge]

we dont always get what we want

[earnest phoenix]

don't be

[lyric mountain]

Oh my

[oak cliff]

cloud, dont escalate things.

[earnest phoenix]

so bad boy

[oak cliff]

-m 371024183531929614

[gilded plank]

🤐 Muted !Xabi#0001 (@iron bear)

[hollow sedge]

lol

[hollow sedge]

sorry

[lyric mountain]

I don't understand such people, like, everyone's anxious about getting their bot approved then suddenly people like that appear out of nowhere

[young flame]

tf you saying sorry for smh

[young flame]

you good homie

[hollow sedge]

lol i think so, but sometimes you just dont realize that you're going too far🤷

[young flame]

stating your opinion isnt something to say sorry to

its collective criticism

@lyric mountain wanna watch ngnl together?

👉 👈

[lyric mountain]

Nah, don't want to have season 2 anxiety again

[young flame]

aww oki

[lyric mountain]

Still dreaming about a sequel

If only manga had gone further, same with overlord

[drifting wedge]

how can i run java files?

eclipse is shit

and vsc doesnt even wanna run the file

[mellow kelp]

intellij gang

[drifting wedge]

same issue

[lyric mountain]

Just click the green arrow

Like, there's no trick

[drifting wedge]

ant run file not found

[lyric mountain]

Ant, why?

Did u create or open the project?

[drifting wedge]

yes

[lyric mountain]

If you created, you're not supposed to select anything at the first screen

At the second u select "command line application"

Then set ur project and package name

[drifting wedge]

why cant i use vsc for java?

eclipse sucks lmao

@lyric mountain

[lyric mountain]

Vsc is a text editor

It's too weak to be used for java

Eclipse indeed sucks

That's why we recommended intellij

[drifting wedge]

i tried too

lemme give u error

[lyric mountain]

If you had Ant errors, u didn't try it the right way

Ant is a package manager

U probably created an Ant project

[outer perch]

my friend is asked to use it while in his Computer Engineering course

[lyric mountain]

Everyone is

[outer perch]

sadly, I just finished 12th grade

[lyric mountain]

But eclipse is so bad

[outer perch]

didn't get in any course

[lyric mountain]

Like, it had everything to be one of the big IDEs

[drifting wedge]

i want my code in main.java right?

[lyric mountain]

No

You want a main method, not a main class

[lyric mountain]

You can name it Main tho

No imgs, sorry, I've disabled them to use data

[drifting wedge]

FILE

[lyric mountain]

All u need is a public static main method

[drifting wedge]

idea

out
src

uhh i only need 1 file right?

[lyric mountain]

Yes, but you also need such folders

[drifting wedge]

MY BRAIN HURTSS

[lyric mountain]

What's inside src folder?

Nothing?

[drifting wedge]

Main.java

[lyric mountain]

Ok

[drifting wedge]

and something.iml

[lyric mountain]

Inside that class , whats inside?

Wait

Iml inside src?

Anyway, Main class should be like this:

[drifting wedge]

  public static void main(String[] args){
    System.out.println("Hello World");
  }
}```

main.java

[lyric mountain]

Yeah, that

When you run it, does it give any error?

[drifting wedge]

wait wtf

this is main.java

[lyric mountain]

Damn, 1% battery

[drifting wedge]

import javafx.applicationf.Application;
import javafx.fxml.FXMLLoader;
import javafx.scene.Parent;
import javafx.scene.Scene;
import javafx.stage.Stage;

public class Main extends Application {

    @Override
    public void start(Stage primaryStage) throws Exception{
        Parent root = FXMLLoader.load(getClass().getResource("sample.fxml"));
        primaryStage.setTitle("Hello World");
        primaryStage.setScene(new Scene(root, 300, 275));
        primaryStage.show();
    }


    public static void main(String[] args) {
        launch(args);
    }
}

[lyric mountain]

Ok, wtf

You've created a javafx project

[drifting wedge]

can i just have a java file?

no projects?

[lyric mountain]

You can

Actually, there are no projects unless you're using package managers

All intellij do is organize the files in folders

[drifting wedge]

new java class file?

[lyric mountain]

No

You can't use that project

It's a javafx project

[drifting wedge]

uhh i right click folder

create file

says: java class

[lyric mountain]

Download intellij, then do this:

• Create project
• Java
• Don't check any option
• Use template -> command line project
• Rename project and package names
• Finish

It'll give u the barebones of java program

[cerulean ingot]

should i re-code my advanced suggestion bot or should i make an advanced member counter bot (like a vc count)?

[lyric mountain]

Now I gotta go, my battery won't handle it anymore

Just remember: use intellij, eclipse is harder

[drifting wedge]

alr

ty

[lyric mountain]

Ok, got the charger

[drifting wedge]

ok plez help lmao

intellij doesnt even wanna run it

@lyric mountain

[twilit geode]

I cant figure out how to collect custom emoji reactions in a filter

const filter = (reaction, user) => {
                return ['check', 'xMark'].includes(reaction.emoji.name) && user.id === message.author.id;
            };

[twilit geode]

eclipse is easyyy

as long as you have 90 years experience 0-0

[sudden geyser]

IntelliJ's UI

[drifting wedge]

i gave up on java already lmao

cznt even run it

cant*

[sudden geyser]

try harder

[twilit geode]

have you tried eclipse?

[drifting wedge]

its very shit

[twilit geode]

well yes

but actually no

[mellow kelp]

i tried eclipse

didn't like it that much but ig it works for other people

[sudden geyser]

@drifting wedge see if this is useful https://www.jetbrains.com/help/idea/creating-and-running-your-first-java-application.html#get-started

[drifting wedge]

i made it

i jusr cant run it

button is grayed out

[twilit geode]

oop

did you save...

[sudden geyser]

it shows how to run it

[drifting wedge]

ill check out tmr

ty

[twilit geode]

        message.channel.send(embed).then(sentMessage => {
            sentMessage.react(emotes.check).then(() => sentMessage.react(emotes.xMark));
        
            const filter = (reaction, user) => {
                return ['check', 'xMark'].includes(reaction.emoji.name) && user.id === message.author.id;
            };
            // yes or no to setup
            sentMessage.awaitReactions(filter, { max: 1, time: 60000, errors: ['time'] })
                .then(collected => {
                    const reaction = collected.first();

                    if (reaction.emoji.name === emotes.check) {
                        embed.setDescription("Do you want me to set up roles - :diamond_shape_with_a_dot_inside:, channels - , or both?")
                        sentMessage.edit(embed)
                    } 
                    if (reaction.emoji.name === emotes.xMark) {
                        message.reply('Action Aborted.');
                    }
                })
                .catch(collected => {
                    message.reply('You timed out, please run =setup again.');
                });

its not collecting the emotes

[sudden geyser]

If it's grayed out you probably don't have any run configurations set

[twilit geode]

in the filter

[drifting wedge]

that's it

i cant find java

[sudden geyser]

Typically you can just open your main java file and press the green arrow next to it

[undone solar]

Good evening everyone,
i would like the bot to change the channel visibility permissions for evryone to off

[drifting wedge]

i made my own file

its legit java.java

    public static void main(String[] args){
        System.out.println("Hello World");
    }
  }

[sudden geyser]

The name of the file needs to be the same as the class name

So it should be called Main.java

[drifting wedge]

oh

lmao

[sudden geyser]

and show your directory tree pls

[drifting wedge]

entire file

[lyric mountain]

Im back

[lyric mountain]

You gotta select what file u want to run

When u wrote the public static void main methody, a gree arrow should've appeared on its side in intellij

Press it

[drifting wedge]

these r configs

[lyric mountain]

No images

You need no config

[drifting wedge]

class name is Main

file name is Main

[lyric mountain]

Yes

Both class and filename must be the same

[drifting wedge]

arrow now shoqwing

its gray

[lyric mountain]

Just press the green arrow on the left side

Near the line numbers

[drifting wedge]

mem

WORKEEED

ur all poggers

:poggers bro

[lyric mountain]

Like, when you first create a project you won't have the starting file setted

[drifting wedge]

o ok

welp, cya when i make the next google!

jk

[lyric mountain]

You need to press that arrow once, then the header arrow should light up

[drifting wedge]

uhh what is java used for?

[lyric mountain]

What isn't java used for is the real question

You can do pretty much anything

Well, maybe except microship coding

[drifting wedge]

ik but what do people use it for?

[lyric mountain]

Anything u want

[drifting wedge]

mhm

r there libraries?

[lyric mountain]

I use it for bots, server, custom apps, etc

[lyric mountain]

Yes

[drifting wedge]

alr

pog

nice

[lyric mountain]

But I recommend using a package manager for libraries

[drifting wedge]

mhm

[lyric mountain]

Handling .jar files can get messy

[drifting wedge]

honestly imma try to finish up python and js before lmao

[lyric mountain]

Learn how to use vanilla java, then start learning how to use gradle

Vanilla java already has a ton of useful stuff

Play a bit with it

Btw, what java did u install?

Version I mean

[twilit geode]

does anyone have a solution to my issue?

[drifting wedge]

Goal is, finish up python, and learn js, Cpp and Java

[lyric mountain]

Any error on the console?

[drifting wedge]

Prob by mid 2021 wanna know like how to make simple programs

[twilit geode]

nope

it just doesnt collect them

[lyric mountain]

I suggest you use jdk 11 and above

[drifting wedge]

Wat Lang @twilit geode

[twilit geode]

It works with unicode emotes, but i just copy pasted them

[twilit geode]

js

[drifting wedge]

Im using 13

[lyric mountain]

Ah, you're safe then

You'll be able to taste lambdas

Maybe text blocks too

[drifting wedge]

Uhh js is useful right?

[twilit geode]

yes?

[lyric mountain]

His code is a up there

[drifting wedge]

Wait what backend frameworks for Java are there?

[lyric mountain]

Yes

[twilit geode]

java... is backend...

[drifting wedge]

?

[lyric mountain]

Java is fullstack actually

[drifting wedge]

Web backend

[lyric mountain]

You choose it

There are many frameworks

[drifting wedge]

What options?

[twilit geode]

a p p l e t

[lyric mountain]

Easiest and, imho, best one is springboot

[twilit geode]

tehe

[lyric mountain]

One-line webserver setup

All you need is a couple annotations above your server handler class

[twilit geode]

technically all java code can be one-line

[crimson vapor]

hmmm

same for js then

[lyric mountain]

Technically anything can be a one-liner if you're brave enough

[twilit geode]

but f other devs amir

[earnest phoenix]

a

[crimson vapor]

f for yourself trying to read

[twilit geode]

yes and no, if you use commas and simicolons like a good boy, yes, if you dont, hell no

[crimson vapor]

lol

[distant bramble]

Lol

[crimson vapor]

I use semicolons

for my js code

[twilit geode]

i dont teehee

[lyric mountain]

Semicolons are essential

[crimson vapor]

https://million.is-a.computer/files/VB2xSrE5UvhxDBs.png

[twilit geode]

#maxiumlazy

[lyric mountain]

They are the cherry of any code

[crimson vapor]

and I have autoformat on

[twilit geode]

I have mine turned off xD

[crimson vapor]

I think it makes it look nicer

[twilit geode]

i mean yea

[crimson vapor]

yio

[twilit geode]

but like

lazy

[crimson vapor]

should I rewrite my shit in 1 commit?

[twilit geode]

also

[crimson vapor]

like 3k lines in one commit

[twilit geode]

CaN sOmEoNe HelP

        message.channel.send(embed).then(sentMessage => {
            sentMessage.react(emotes.check).then(() => sentMessage.react(emotes.xMark));
        
            const filter = (reaction, user) => {
                return ['check', 'xMark'].includes(reaction.emoji.name) && user.id === message.author.id;
            };
            // yes or no to setup
            sentMessage.awaitReactions(filter, { max: 1, time: 60000, errors: ['time'] })
                .then(collected => {
                    const reaction = collected.first();

                    if (reaction.emoji.name === emotes.check) {
                        embed.setDescription("Do you want me to set up roles - :diamond_shape_with_a_dot_inside:, channels - , or both?")
                        sentMessage.edit(embed)
                    } 
                    if (reaction.emoji.name === emotes.xMark) {
                        message.reply('Action Aborted.');
                    }
                })
                .catch(collected => {
                    message.reply('You timed out, please run =setup again.');
                });

it no go brr

[crimson vapor]

go('brrrr')

there

[twilit geode]

damn

[crimson vapor]

idk im tired and can't think

and this code is in like 200 different places rn

working on middleware and routes and api at the same time

[twilit geode]

have fun!

[crimson vapor]

https://million.is-a.computer/files/hJHWK3PLxgn3mCB.png

fun!

[twilit geode]

c o d i n g i s f u nhell

[crimson vapor]

nah I enjoy it

tbh

unlike writing it actually makes sense

its like a game

how far can you get without throwing an error and taking a break

[twilit geode]

godzilla had a stroke trying to read this

NVMD

big dumb

[crimson vapor]

how loud can you make your music before you need to pause it to think

little game I like to play with myself

[lyric mountain]

Until your dog start asking u to turn it down ig

[crimson vapor]

that too

const { Router } = require('express');
const router = Router();

router.use(async (req, res, next) => {
  if (req.session.userData) {
    next();
    return;
  } else res.redirect('/login?r=' + req.url);
});

module.exports = router;
``` best fucking authentication middleware

[distant bramble]

Lol

[crimson vapor]

reee I need to start writing user management routes

[twilit geode]

=setup

oop

[crimson vapor]

wrong channel

[cerulean ingot]

what bot should i make? server template bot, server maker bot, re-code my advanced suggestion bot, or make a guess the number bot

[crimson vapor]

don't make a bot

make a web server or smth

an api

anything

[hollow sedge]

Yea

[crimson vapor]

smh I accidentally used callbacks instead of async/await

[mellow kelp]

bruh moment

[crimson vapor]

whatever ill just fix it later

[sudden geyser]

If it's public, look at what people want and see if you want to make that. If it's private, make whatever you want that's useful.

[crimson vapor]

I cba to recode this

[lyric mountain]

Oh, I have an innovative bot idea

Make a...

CORONA BOT

[sudden geyser]

For example, mod mail was something I always saw people made exclusively for a server. Then someone made a public bot and that was immediately popular, but then again, the person who made it already had a popular bot so I don't know if they promoted it there

[mellow kelp]

EPIC

Who would have thought about that

[sudden geyser]

the web is boring!

[hollow sedge]

Make a spanish flu bot

[crimson vapor]

its not imo

so much shit you can do

[hollow sedge]

Yeah it's not

[crimson vapor]

im rewriting my file storage server thing

sharex server

cdn

[mellow kelp]

͇̓͠w̳ͧ̀h̨̫̽a̧͈͊t͕̊́ ̵̓ͅd̨̙͗i̢̙͗d͖̃͞ ͍̈͟y̤ͧ͟o̢̯ͨu̧̕͝ ̟͊͏j̛̟̃u̷̮ͨs̴̘̽t̡̗̊ ̸̹́s̯ͪ͡a̡͚͞y

[crimson vapor]

whatever you wanna call it

[cerulean ingot]

public, im asking here for that reason

what bot would you use/like more? server template bot, server maker bot, re-code my advanced suggestion bot, or make a guess the number bot

[hollow sedge]

None of those

[sudden geyser]

none of those really

[hollow sedge]

They all already exist

[crimson vapor]

https://million.is-a.computer/files/bUtLxThJs3xVr7G.png long boi

[lyric mountain]

Make a role-playing gif api, I'd be forever grateful lul

Many people look for one

[crimson vapor]

explain

[sudden geyser]

Discord already has templates, your suggestions bot is yours, guessing numbers is easy

[lyric mountain]

Kiss, hug, punch, slap, etc etc

[cerulean ingot]

they all do?!

[lyric mountain]

Weeb stuff

[crimson vapor]

oh

[cerulean ingot]

damn that sucks

[crimson vapor]

fucking weeb shit

[mellow kelp]

yes

weeb gang rise

[crimson vapor]

nah

[sudden geyser]

it isn't a bot if it doesn't have a userinfo serverinfo and basic action commands

[crimson vapor]

no weebs here

bad

[mellow kelp]

im actually vibin to konosuba ost rn

[crimson vapor]

wow

weeb

[sudden geyser]

Listen to the Made in Abyss soundtrack

infinitely better

[hollow sedge]

You need a really creative idea to create a unique bot

[lyric mountain]

Nah, crossing fields all the way

[mellow kelp]

pog

[sudden geyser]

You need to ✨ think different ✨

[cerulean ingot]

yeah i just cant think of one :(

[lyric mountain]

(choir plays in the background)

[lyric mountain]

Make a DIY bot

Like, try to make a modular bot

[mellow kelp]

how about a simple bot maker

like an electron app or something

[hollow sedge]

No bot makers :(

[cerulean ingot]

wdym

[mellow kelp]

dang

y?

[lyric mountain]

No, I mean, make a bot that allows server owners to create modules/commands

Then enable them only to that server

[hollow sedge]

People just spam out bots that suck

[mellow kelp]

yea true

[earnest phoenix]

me looking at chat for source codes (/j, i know there wont be one)

[mellow kelp]

looks menacingly at botghost

[cerulean ingot]

create modules?

[hollow sedge]

Lol

[cerulean ingot]

wdym

[lyric mountain]

Like

Make a barebones bot

With a single command

A command to create a custom-written command

Then save such command exclusively to that server

Literally a DIY bot

[cerulean ingot]

what if they cant code

[lyric mountain]

Although you'd need to make it easy af

[lyric mountain]

Make it not look like coding

Idk, like, make it as straightforward as possible

[cerulean ingot]

hmm idk

[lyric mountain]

With handrails everywhere

[crimson vapor]

https://million.is-a.computer/files/GkQfMsT4kgPkI29.png

password changing works

[cerulean ingot]

any other ideas?

what?

[lyric mountain]

Wut

password changing works

[twilit geode]

are their ways to add objects to json things

[cerulean ingot]

fuck

[crimson vapor]

password

[lyric mountain]

Hey hey hey

[cerulean ingot]

ok yeah

[twilit geode]

or do I just need to make a class

[cerulean ingot]

self bot

[crimson vapor]

word

ass

[cerulean ingot]

fuck

shit

self bot

[crimson vapor]

@earnest phoenix

[mellow kelp]

bruh

[lyric mountain]

@ember atlas selfbot here

[crimson vapor]

discord js go brrrrr

[cerulean ingot]

ew

[twilit geode]

boss is ofline

[distant bramble]

Lol

[cerulean ingot]

python go brrrrrrr

[ember atlas]

where at

[twilit geode]

err dnd

[cerulean ingot]

look

fuck

fuck

[ember atlas]

dick

[lyric mountain]

Here

[ember atlas]

fuck

[twilit geode]

that

lol

[cerulean ingot]

pussy

[hollow sedge]

Lol

[mellow kelp]

bruh a self bot

[crimson vapor]

ass

[cerulean ingot]

ass

[lyric mountain]

E X P O S E D . E X E

[ember atlas]

[twilit geode]

eat my succulent ass

[crimson vapor]

delete their bot

[cerulean ingot]

yay

[twilit geode]

yay

[lyric mountain]

Sink their boat

[cerulean ingot]

idk what to make for my bot

[crimson vapor]

shit my bad

[cerulean ingot]

that diy bot

idk

[crimson vapor]

sink their boat!

[twilit geode]

so is there a way to add objects to json... things...

[ember atlas]

Ok and back to development chats only

[cerulean ingot]

ive thought of a lot but its all used apparently

[crimson vapor]

you can add an object to json

[lyric mountain]

I mean, it'd innovative af

[twilit geode]

like i could have emote.id and emote.escaped

at the same time

[crimson vapor]

yea

[lyric mountain]

And would maybe teach people programming logic basics

[crimson vapor]

lol

[twilit geode]

an example would be wonderful

[twilit geode]

shush

[crimson vapor]

programing logic is literally fucking if then else

like how hard is it

[hollow sedge]

It's hard when you start

[crimson vapor]

not really

the docs are the hardest

[hollow sedge]

Ok genius

[lyric mountain]

Anything is hard if you're brave enough

[cerulean ingot]

cus u code in js lol

[crimson vapor]

hmmm

js good

js easy

[cerulean ingot]

not imo

[crimson vapor]

js poggers

[twilit geode]

j is better

[crimson vapor]

what lang you use? py?

[mellow kelp]

ts for scaling

[twilit geode]

butttt

yk

[cerulean ingot]

python

[crimson vapor]

what the fuck is py

like

whitespace

ewwww

[lyric mountain]

About the diy bot, you'd need to create a custom lang

[cerulean ingot]

yeah

[lyric mountain]

Maybe something really abstract

[cerulean ingot]

that would be cool

[lyric mountain]

Like scratch

[cerulean ingot]

but i cant make a website for it bc idk how to

[mellow kelp]

the big three boys

html

css

js

[hollow sedge]

html
sass
js

[cerulean ingot]

@bot.command()
async def pythonisbetter(ctx):
    await ctx.send("python go brrr")```

[lyric mountain]

I don't mean an actual scratch

[crimson vapor]

its nice doing my code all in the same languages

[mellow kelp]

html

sass

jsx

angular

[lyric mountain]

Maybe some instruction-based coding

[mellow kelp]

ts

react

vue

[hollow sedge]

Ok but why html

react
node js

[mellow kelp]

why not

[crimson vapor]

function fuckWhitespace() { return "Fuck whitespace, all my homies use single lines of code." }; fuckWhitespace()```

[sudden geyser]

liar

you have whitespace in there

[crimson vapor]

spaces !== whitespace

[lyric mountain]

Actually, he meant line break

[sudden geyser]

pretty sure they're still whitespace

yes kuu

[mellow kelp]

function fuckWhitespace(){return'Fuck_whitespace,_all_my_homies_use_single_lines_of_code.'};fuckWhitespace();

[crimson vapor]

when I mean whitespace I mean required tabs and spaces

[mellow kelp]

whitespace is also

[crimson vapor]

yeah but thats required for every sintax

[mellow kelp]

why do you think regex uses \s as any whitespace

minified code gang

[lyric mountain]

Linebreaks include a carriage return in most systems, which is almost a whitespace

[mellow kelp]

bruh imagine coding in minified

[crimson vapor]

brb I smell food

[sudden geyser]

This is power! js fuckwhitespace=()=>"fuckwhitespace,allmyhomiesusesinglelinesofcode.";fuckwhitespace()

[mellow kelp]

haha es6 go brr

[lyric mountain]

Anything is food if...nvm

[sudden geyser]

if it can fit in your mouth

[cerulean ingot]

im not going to do the diy bot

i would have to make a command to exc code too

[lyric mountain]

Idk then, that's the only unique thing I've not seem here on disc

[hollow sedge]

you dont need a command to execute code

you could just import modules

[cerulean ingot]

idk

im going to think of another idea sorry

but thank you

[hollow sedge]

yeah i dont think thats really a good idea anyway

[cerulean ingot]

^^