development

[crimson vapor]

8 different things

[gilded olive]

Yep there is a lot

[long marsh]

Are you using SQL?

[gilded olive]

Yes

Postgres with an ORM

[long marsh]

I'm sure you know what you're doing; however, 8 just seems a little unnecessary

[quartz kindle]

those 8 things, whatever they are, could still be made into a transaction, if not further combined using JOINs

[long marsh]

OH

You're using an ORM, lol

[long marsh]

I was going to say this.

ORMs can be limited with their transaction / join abilities though.

[crimson vapor]

lmao I feel uneducated when I see these database terms

[gilded olive]

I mean the bot has to check if every message is either an automod config

Ofc we have put checks in place if the automod is off we return None

[long marsh]

Sounds like a join operation 🤔

[quartz kindle]

always cache hot data

[earnest phoenix]

orm is basically never seeing an sql statement ever again

[long marsh]

☝️ that too

Haha, that's the hope ... sometimes it doesn't pan out.

[gilded olive]

Yea one our devs implementing redis since we kinda need it

[long marsh]

100000%

[gilded olive]

ok ive got to go cya guys

[quartz kindle]

im happy with my sqlite xD

[long marsh]

Later!

lol

I remember you telling me about that 😄

[quartz kindle]

hahah

[long marsh]

Is there an FAQ for badges, here?

"Certified Developer" sounds interesting lol

Roles I should say, I guess.

[quartz kindle]

the certified program is currently not available

[long marsh]

GG

Glad you were able to get it, haha

[crimson vapor]

for caching things in memory, without redis, would you cache as a global or how would you make sure you can access it everywhere

[quartz kindle]

not sure it if was removed completely or if they plan to bring it back at some point

i got it like 2 years ago

[quartz kindle]

either as a global, or attached to a class instance you use everywhere

[long marsh]

I leverage a sdk named keyv. It can be used as a caching engine in-memory (globally, as you say), or used with a plugin for other mediums (redis, memcache, etc)

[earnest phoenix]

i'd follow OOP conventions, create a class that acts as a service and the class contains a dictionary/map as a cache

[long marsh]

Cache, in this case, would probably be a singleton.

[earnest phoenix]

yup

[quartz kindle]

i usually attach my caches to the main class that runs the entire program

[long marsh]

Exactly, a singleton.

Just 1 instantiation of the object for cache that the entire program consumes?

[quartz kindle]

ye, also contains all methods

[long marsh]

Sweet.

[quartz kindle]

and access to subclasses

[long marsh]

I feel like that's the best way, imo.

[quartz kindle]

i do it like client.app = new MyClass() then client.app.getUser(id) for example

[long marsh]

If you guys haven't used Docker, I would highly recommend it. It makes for destroying/updating/coupling with cache really easy.

[crimson vapor]

Lmao for the program I plan to work on caching for I don’t use classes

[long marsh]

Yeah, that's a singleton - lol

Basically

[quartz kindle]

im not planning on dockerizing anytime soon

[long marsh]

It's definitely not a requirement.

Just makes things easier, for me personally.

I work a DevOps position currently, and I use it all day anyways 😄

[quartz kindle]

nice

[earnest phoenix]

i'd definitely recommend following oop when you can, i feel like it's way more organized and it has a better logic flow

[long marsh]

If you would have asked me that 4 years ago, I would have agreed.

[crimson vapor]

How would you implement that for an express app?

[quartz kindle]

app.cache = new MyCache()
app.get("/", (req,res) => { app.cache.get(req.data) })

[long marsh]

I will say this cry, implementing OOP for the sake of OOP is counter intuitive. Abstraction for the sake of abstraction can be confusing to read and hard to manage. Sometimes, plain ole' imperative paradigm is good enough.

[earnest phoenix]

true

[long marsh]

But, I'm not disagreeing.

[earnest phoenix]

i'm way more used to using oop since i always work with dotnet

[long marsh]

Just saying, OOP isn't the 1-all-by-all

.NET forces you to use OOP - doesn't it?

[earnest phoenix]

yup

[long marsh]

Like Java?

Yeah

[crimson vapor]

I mean my routes are i different files than my main app, to make it easier to understand

But I get what you mean Tim

[quartz kindle]

you should be able to access app everywhere

if not, req and res should have a shortcut to it, no?

like djs has message.client shortcuts

[crimson vapor]

it does?

Ik of message.client but not req.app

[long marsh]

lol

[crimson vapor]

Oh that’s nice

[long marsh]

Leave it to Tim to drop some knowledge

[quartz kindle]

when in doubt, open the docs

[long marsh]

What's a doc?

😄

Oh! You're talking about StackExchange, right?

😄

Kidding, kidding.

[quartz kindle]

lmao

im talking about doctors

:^)

circular dependencies are kinda one of the basic things about OOP, if your classes cant access their parent classes, you're doing it wrong

[crimson vapor]

how would you implement caching? app.cache = { data: [], otherData: {} };? and I can just add and remove data from it

[long marsh]

That's the naive implementation, yep

[quartz kindle]

btw, never use this when using proxified objects or classes

[long marsh]

You can also optimize it as well

And, MILLION, I say naive in a non-offensive manner here 😄

I'm not calling you naive, of course - haha

Wait, maybe not use a data: []

Instead, it really just acts as one large map.

[crimson vapor]

I assumed you meant it as in not knowing anything about it

[long marsh]

Nope

I meant it as 'a super simplistic way of doing it'

What language, Million?

[crimson vapor]

Oh ok

node js

[long marsh]

Check out keyv

[crimson vapor]

could you send the link

[quartz kindle]

thats my bot lul

[long marsh]

Yeah, that works too lol

I don't use maps within maps though.

I'll prepend data:

Key = user.items
Val = (from database) user.items

[quartz kindle]

ye thats another way of doing it

[long marsh]

Yeah, there's really no right or wrong answer here ... as long as you're accomplishing the goal 😄

[long marsh]

https://www.npmjs.com/package/keyv

I'm just using the in-memory version of it. Once my bot scales, I'll plugin a redis cluster too it; however, I will know, in the back of my mind, that it can always integrate with it whenever I want.

So, essentially, it'll be plug-in-play when I scale.

All cache is ... is just one giant map. If you look at the src, it's basically what you showed above.

Of course, with a lot more to it 😄

[quartz kindle]

i made a small lib that stores data in a huge string

xD

[crimson vapor]

// For caching
app.cache = require('./util/cache.json')```
```json
{ //cache.json
    "files": [],
    "urls": []
}``` so this is not a bad way of doing cache right

[quartz kindle]

not a bad way no, but kinda useless doing it like that, when you can simply hard code it

[crimson vapor]

true

[long marsh]

Data in a string - yikes. I don't know about all of that lol

Keep in mind, @crimson vapor , you're storing information in an array with that Cache.

[crimson vapor]

yes

[long marsh]

Why?

What are you storing?

[crimson vapor]

one second lemme grab the data object

[long marsh]

Obviously, I see files and urls

[dark axle]

[crimson vapor]

{
  originalName: String,
  name: String,
  path: String,
  views: Number,
  uploader: String,
  UploadedAt: String,
  lock: {
    active: Boolean,
    password: String,
  },
}```

file

[pseudo yew]

[dark axle]

@crimson vapor The password boi

[long marsh]

If you place your files into a list, they won't be easy to retrieve unless you iterate through the list.

[dark axle]

You better be encrypting that

Sensitive data

[crimson vapor]

its not even implemented yet

[dark axle]

https://tenor.com/view/major-payne-sensitive-gif-6261088

@crimson vapor Wait what are you making?

[crimson vapor]

what do you think would be a better way to do this? set cache.files to a map and cache.files.set(filename, fileObject)?

[pseudo yew]

Ok back to suffering to find a way on how to get my captcha bot up-

[crimson vapor]

I am adding caching to an express server that just returns images/files

[dark axle]

@pseudo yew Aren't you hosting the bot?

[quartz kindle]

for the purpose it was designed for, its actually good af

[long marsh]

An alternative approach to your caching could be a map:

{ //cache.json
    "files": {
        "fileId": {
            "attr": "val",
            "attr2": "val2"
        }
    },
    "urls": {}
}

[earnest phoenix]

okay so i use discordjs nodejs
my brain aint working anymore
k so. imagine if someone says *unscramble <text>
how to turn <text> into a var or a const or string

[long marsh]

That way @crimson vapor , you could have an O(1) access (big o notation) ... just 1 json pull.

[dark axle]

You just get the message that is sent and make it be a variable @earnest phoenix

[crimson vapor]

versus iterating through an array would be O(n)? idk big o notation

[earnest phoenix]

i said how

[dark axle]

How are you receiving the content @earnest phoenix

[earnest phoenix]

wdym with that

[crimson vapor]

let content = message.content

[dark axle]

^^

[earnest phoenix]

does it also ignore the *unscramble then?

[hollow sedge]

that doesnt only get the text part guys, i think you're looking for .split()

[dark axle]

Could you be more specific and make a more descriptive exmaple on how the content you reiecive looks like and how you get it.

@earnest phoenix

[earnest phoenix]

i see

[long marsh]

Yes!

[crimson vapor]

alright

another question, what would be the difference from setting cache.files to a new Map() vs an object and doing it the way you said?

[long marsh]

1 for loop = O(n)
nested for loop for: for = O(n^2)

[quartz kindle]

need help with people who ask for help without explaining the problem

[dark axle]

[quartz kindle]

xD

[sudden geyser]

convenience

[crimson vapor]

would there be any cpu or memory usage difference

[long marsh]

Honestly, I'm brand new to NodeJs. I couldn't tell you the difference between a map vs an object.

[dark axle]

Math.floor

@earnest phoenix

[quartz kindle]

.toFixed(number of decimals) in js

[crimson vapor]

alright this is a Tim question then

[long marsh]

Prob

[hollow sedge]

what do you normally use

[dark axle]

Math.floor(9.3434) would be => 9

Yep

[quartz kindle]

Objects and Maps are generally the same thing, but Maps support all kinds of data types as keys, while Objects only support numbers and strings as keys

Objects are a bit more memory efficient as well

[dark axle]

You need to parse it as an inte

Int*

[crimson vapor]

alright I will be using Objects

[long marsh]

I use several different languages: bash, python, nodejs, typescript (well, really a superset ... not a language by itself), and occasionally Golang

[crimson vapor]

ty Tim

[sterile lantern]

say I have errors.json

in there it has a message.send embed function, would that work

[crimson vapor]

and Thomas

[dark axle]

@earnest phoenix Do this
${Math.floor(parseInt(si.currentLoad().currentload))}

[sterile lantern]

so in a cmd I’d do const error1 = require errors.json

then

[long marsh]

NodeJS is so frivolous with its rules - I'm not confident about anything in it 😄

[hollow sedge]

bash 👀, that's awesome though

[sterile lantern]

if there’s an error it does return error1

would dat work

[crimson vapor]

node js doesn't respect basic math rules sadly though

[long marsh]

Haha, bash is the worse. It's necessary for linux-based workflows at my job. I'm a developer by day

NodeJS doesn't respect anything.

[sterile lantern]

I don’t think it would work in a json file tho

[crimson vapor]

I don't mean the bugs with converting to binary

[quartz kindle]

the bad thing about Objects is that there is no built in way to iterate over them, you need to use Object.keys and Object.values, while Maps have .keys() and .values() as dedicated iterators, which might make it a tiny bit faster to iterate over them if you ever need to

[long marsh]

It doesn't even respect itself 😄

[dark axle]

@long marsh Typescript is Typed Javascript

[hollow sedge]

oh that makes sense

[long marsh]

I know

TypeScript is more clear on its definitions / practices (imo) than JavaScript; however ES6 changes some of that.

[sterile lantern]

errors.json:
message.channel.send // error embed here

// cmd file
const error5 = require(errors.json) // this is an example dw
if(!haspermission)
return error5

[hollow sedge]

you know it's bad when someone who works with python says NodeJS is too flexible

[quartz kindle]

wdym js doesnt respect math lmao

[sterile lantern]

would that work;-;

${error5} maybe

[dark axle]

Is the type of "si.currentLoad().currentload"?

[long marsh]

Python is flexible, but you can't just go:

a = 10;
a.pizza = 5;

in it 😄

[quartz kindle]

you cant in js either xD

[hollow sedge]

lol

[crimson vapor]

[] == 0 // true
0 == "0" // true
"0" !== [] // false```

[long marsh]

👀

What do you mean?

[sterile lantern]

can some1 see my inquiry above

[long marsh]

I thought you could, lol

[quartz kindle]

you can with many things, but not with numbers

[sterile lantern]

this 1

[long marsh]

Ah, good call out.

[dark axle]

@earnest phoenix https://gyazo.com/47b06b65139bb8e37cb69dbd282f72fa

[long marsh]

But, the point still stands 😄

[quartz kindle]

xD

[long marsh]

Interesting.

No errors though, how about dat

Python would raise a value error so quick 😄

[quartz kindle]

you cant with strings either

[hollow sedge]

yeah

[crimson vapor]

objects are cool though

[dark axle]

@earnest phoenix Can you console log si.currentLoad().currentload

[crimson vapor]

a.b = 1
a { b: 1 }
a.b 1```

nice

[dark axle]

And see what it returns

[quartz kindle]

you can do this tho :^)

[dark axle]

Yep that's why

[long marsh]

Because that makes sense

[crimson vapor]

is that because a is a Number instance and b is a property

the Number has a value of 5 but a property b of 10

[dark axle]

Make sure you're getting the correct value @earnest phoenix

[long marsh]

But, assigning a brand new property to an object outside of its original instantiation basically breaks the laws of physics coming from an OOP language 😄

[dark axle]

Check on how you did it on the embed.

[sterile lantern]

if I have fsreadDir on command folder, if I add sub folders in it will it still read those folders

[long marsh]

Objects are just so closely related to maps in JavaScript (imo) ... in other languages .. that's not the case at all.

In fact, really, any other language 😄

[dark axle]

You probably misspelt something or did not implement it correctly @earnest phoenix

[quartz kindle]

js has classes for everything, but literal definitions such as numbers, strings, objects and arrays, have special rules in them that dont allow you to access their underlying instances, however you can still do new Number, new String, new Object or new Array, and it will work the same way, but this time give you full access

[crimson vapor]

how do you delete the property of an object

[quartz kindle]

delete obj.prop

[crimson vapor]

oh

[long marsh]

'literal definitions' -> primitive types 😄

[quartz kindle]

ye

[dark axle]

@earnest phoenix Can I see how you do it on the embed.

[long marsh]

Sorry, I'm sure you knew that - just reiterating for anyone else that's curious.

[crimson vapor]

#development message this is correct right

[dark axle]

Send a snippet of the code or a screenshot

[crimson vapor]

ok sad no response

nice and groovy error

[quartz kindle]

i said literal as in, you literally write them in your code instead of instantiating a class for it

[long marsh]

Ahhhh

[long marsh]

My fault

[quartz kindle]

a = [];
b = new Array();

[long marsh]

Yep yep

[hollow sedge]

million-are-you-a-computer?

[quartz kindle]

they are the exact same thing but follow slightly different rules

[crimson vapor]

well I am supposed to be

[dark axle]

@quartz kindle Lmfao

[hollow sedge]

lol

[long marsh]

Are they the exact same thing, Tim?

[crimson vapor]

but app is not defined ig

[long marsh]

I trust your judgement; however, they seem different 🤔

[quartz kindle]

they are, or at least they are supposed to be

[long marsh]

One seems like a primitive while the other is an Object representation of the primitive.

[dark axle]

@crimson vapor Define app.

[long marsh]

But, that's just me eye-ballin' it

And I don't know shit about NodeJS 😄

[crimson vapor]

I typed app instead of req.app

[long marsh]

Are we certain that's valid? Is there inheritance at play here?

what if a == b?

well, I guess not

They'd be two different memory addresses 🤔

[quartz kindle]

(await s1.currentLoad()).currentload.toFixed(2)

for 2 decimals

[long marsh]

Idk - Javascript comparisons confuse me

[quartz kindle]

ye

[dark axle]

@earnest phoenix Make a Variable named Auslastung and make it equal to the awaited currentload Then try to console log it
I think you just need to await it

[long marsh]

"When in doubt, triple equals"

[pseudo yew]

Hi guys I'm new to djs and I made my own starter code is it ok if you guys correct it? Or do I test it first?

[crimson vapor]

how would I get the amount of values in an object

Object.values(object).length?

[quartz kindle]

ye

[dark axle]

There you go

[pseudo yew]

?

[quartz kindle]

test it first, if it errors, read the errors, try to fix it, read docs, if you still cant manage on your own, ask here

[crimson vapor]

realistically Object.values().length is the same as Object.keys().length correct?

[quartz kindle]

yes

[crimson vapor]

ok

[quartz kindle]

Object.keys() would kinda be semantically more correct i think? who knows

[earnest phoenix]

,

oops

[long marsh]

Agreed.

[earnest phoenix]

i'd assume it would be faster

The moment when objects don't have a length property so you gotta cast them to an array, pepega

[crimson vapor]

is an array not just a fancy object?

[dark axle]

@earnest phoenix Lmfao

[long marsh]

Not technically

An array is an object.

[quartz kindle]

an object is a fancy array xD

[crimson vapor]

o

[quartz kindle]

and both are fancy hashmaps

[earnest phoenix]

Array is an object data type, not everything in JS has a unique type

js
types
proceed to laugh

[] == []

[long marsh]

You know, more on that, is an array an object 🤔

[earnest phoenix]

false

[long marsh]

Or is it a primitive?

[quartz kindle]

an array is an object

[crimson vapor]

I assumed an array was just an object where "0" was the first value and "1" was the next

[quartz kindle]

there are a few diffences between arrays an objects in v8 tho

[earnest phoenix]

The moment when both arrays and object has the type of object but has different constructors

[long marsh]

Constructor overloading, eh

[quartz kindle]

under the hood, most objects are c++ hashmaps in v8
however arrays are not

[long marsh]

It really depends on the language ,tbh

[quartz kindle]

arrays have different c++ constructions depending on length and data size

[long marsh]

I believe Java's primitive types are objects themselves.

At the base of all data structures are objects.

[earnest phoenix]

Java should have just been renamed to just object

[long marsh]

LOL

Kinda true, though.

[quartz kindle]

jobject

[long marsh]

job

Just call it jOB

[quartz kindle]

jon

java object notation

[long marsh]

lol

Screw it, going back to C

No.

Assembly.

No.

Bytecode

[earnest phoenix]

Nah mate

[queen needle]

woah woah woah

[quartz kindle]

this is how arrays work in v8

[earnest phoenix]

We going back to binary

[long marsh]

Is bytecode not the same thing 🤔

HOLEY DOUBLE ELEMENTS!

lmao

[earnest phoenix]

I'm not sure if there's a difference between them

[quartz kindle]

xD

[long marsh]

The elements of which are the holiest of holes.

[queen needle]

when i see tim voltrex thomas or cry talking in here and im in here its the same thing has a kid sitting at the adult table

[earnest phoenix]

Holy double elements, quite interesting

[quartz kindle]

a holey double element is used when you create an array with floating point numbers and empty holes, like this: [34.252,,,234.235235]

[long marsh]

OH

That makes sense, though.

Would the empty 'holes' be filled?

Abstractly, I mean

[quartz kindle]

pretty sure it stays the same

even if you eventually fill the holes, the underlying data structure will still be a sparse array

[long marsh]

Ah, interesting.

[crimson vapor]

Okay I have fixed the bug and now my caches are maps

[dark axle]

Just get a shovel

[long marsh]

Lol - we're all children

Well, I can't speak for voltrex or tim or cry .. I guess

[crimson vapor]

and the stats json I made says there is 1 cached file https://million.is-a.computer/api/stats

[quartz kindle]

im the kid thats always sitting in weird ways at the table

[earnest phoenix]

Bruv

[queen needle]

i mean that in a way that i understand the gist of what yall are saying but i dont understand anything pass that

[sharp thicket]

No?

[long marsh]

I'm the kid that is trying their hardest to fit in with the others kids; however, due to my own paranoia, I end up not saying anything and inadvertently being marketed as a 'weird' kid.

facts

[quartz kindle]

who needs to fit in, just be proud of your own uniqueness :3

[dark axle]

Im the kid that is not on the list

[sharp thicket]

Can you move to a general chst

Chat*

[long marsh]

You right.

[earnest phoenix]

Imagine if tim was the kid that's sitting behind the class then when he gets angry and this shit appears in real life, you know shit is serious

[crimson vapor]

who needs to fit in, just get more than 50 stars on a gh repo and you are now popular so people will start copying you to be normal

change the normal

[sharp thicket]

@quartz kindle why eo you spend so muxh time helping ppl here?i rlly think they should make you like a helper role 🤣

[quartz kindle]

lmao

[sharp thicket]

Do*

[crimson vapor]

Tim should get a Tim role

[sterile lantern]

?

[crimson vapor]

anyone that is very knowledgeable and respectful should get a Tim role

[quartz kindle]

because it makes me feel better about myself :^)

[earnest phoenix]

Petition to give tim, Certified developer but tim role

[queen needle]

tim should get a top.gg role because without him this would die and we all know it

[sharp thicket]

Yes i wanna sign that

Gimmie

[quartz kindle]

lmao

[earnest phoenix]

Yo wtf

Loggers

[quartz kindle]

can i trade the role for donators and patreons?

[rustic nova]

agreed

[sharp thicket]

Can we stoo breaking rules tho

Let move to general

Lets

[crimson vapor]

Tim is #development and we are talking about Tim

therefore its fine

[sharp thicket]

Lol

Ok

[earnest phoenix]

That's a 5head move

[sharp thicket]

Yes

[earnest phoenix]

Lemme say this

Change #development to #Tim

[queen needle]

lol

[crimson vapor]

yes

or

#ask-tim

[quartz kindle]

i mean, at that point why not just join my server lmao

[crimson vapor]

you have a server?

[queen needle]

each question costs one patreon

[earnest phoenix]

Wait you got a server?

[quartz kindle]

yes lol, the support server for my bot and my libs

[earnest phoenix]

Give link

[crimson vapor]

yes

either send here or dm

[solid tide]

can yall dm me please

[crimson vapor]

by the way, if someone asks for a link to something, is it considered self promo if you send it?

[earnest phoenix]

First we decancer your username

[quartz kindle]

BpeedKh

[crimson vapor]

ty

[earnest phoenix]

The entire DBL heading to join tim's server

May lord help us

[sharp thicket]

Lol

[solid tide]

can yall dm me please

[sharp thicket]

Why

[quartz kindle]

why do you want a dm?

[solid tide]

i need a friend

[sharp thicket]

Sure

[quartz kindle]

this is not the place for that lol

[sharp thicket]

Tim whats ur bots name

[crimson vapor]

well it is if you contribute to the conversations in a helpful way

what are the chances that he is trying to grab the ip from the db?

[sharp thicket]

-bots @tim

[gilded plank]

User not found

[weary ore]

Hey guys, how would a economy bot work with mongo dB/quickmongo
any reference guides

[hollow sedge]

What is quickmongo

[sharp thicket]

Tf

[crimson vapor]

Is there a way for a js library to tell if someone is using a user token?

[weary ore]

a api wrapper for mongoose

[crimson vapor]

oh

you can make schemas

[earnest phoenix]

Wrapper for a wrapper?

[crimson vapor]

LOL

[weary ore]

idk

lol

[hollow sedge]

Yeah what

Its a beginners MongoDB thing

[weary ore]

probaly

like how would a buy n sell command work with mongodb

[crimson vapor]

well a buy command would decrease a variable and a sell command would decrease a variable

[sharp thicket]

Save money for a user then change it whenever u need to

[hollow sedge]

It calls itself a MongoDB wrapper but one of its dependencies is mongoose LOL

[crimson vapor]

so all you need to do is create schemas with the id as the user's id

and add a balance property

[weary ore]

i have a profile schema

[crimson vapor]

so add a balance property

and there should be a way to update it

im not quite sure since I only use basic features of mongoose

[weary ore]

lol thats why im asking

[lapis forge]

Hi, i have my bot that can post to mongodb for prefixes and im not sure how to read from the database or to read it from just the API. Im not that great with mongo and to get it from the API i need to get the guild id from client.guild.id. Im using DJS commands too

[sharp thicket]

schemaName.findOne()

If ur using mongoose that is

Idk any other libs

[crimson vapor]

same

and I use updateOne() with the same input

[sharp thicket]

I dont think thats a good idea

[weary ore]

i have a way to update the balance $inc

[slim umbra]

<ClientUser>.bot

in djs

[sharp thicket]

Check if anything is there first

[slim umbra]

dont use mongoose

its supersuper slow

[crimson vapor]

if false djs should just destroy the client

[slim umbra]

bc mongo is not a relational db

so dont use a lib that attempts to make it one

[sharp thicket]

Yea

[slim umbra]

afaik it does

eris doesnt tho

[sharp thicket]

If ur hosting ur bot locally u can just remove that part??

[slim umbra]

well why

[crimson vapor]

what

why would anyone want to remove that

[slim umbra]

yeah

[sharp thicket]

Self bots

[crimson vapor]

it should be obfuscated

[slim umbra]

unless u think ur funny making some shitty selfbot

[slim umbra]

[sharp thicket]

Yea

[slim umbra]

obfuscating a oss lib thats on gh

[weary ore]

so when a person buys it adds it to the user profile right?

[slim umbra]

thats some stupid shit

[crimson vapor]

they should obfuscate a whole chunk of code

to prevent breaking discord tos

[slim umbra]

its very easy to bypass lol

obfuscating it would be stupid

[crimson vapor]

!==

right?

[earnest phoenix]

Doesn't matter

[crimson vapor]

oh

nvm

[earnest phoenix]

undefinded

Spell error

[crimson vapor]

that too

why not

[slim umbra]

oh my

[crimson vapor]

thumbnail.source || "link"?

well

[slim umbra]

thumbnail.source ?? "https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/77/Wikipedia_svg_logo.svg/1024px-Wikipedia_svg_logo.svg.png"

[crimson vapor]

you're right it would be a string

???

[slim umbra]

thumbnail?.source ?? "https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/77/Wikipedia_svg_logo.svg/1024px-Wikipedia_svg_logo.svg.png"

yes lol

valid js

[crimson vapor]

I mean whats it

ik its valid

[slim umbra]

nullish coalescing

[crimson vapor]

node not the right version?

[queen needle]

isnt that node 14 syntax

[earnest phoenix]

Those are only available in Node.js v14+

[slim umbra]

yeah

yeah upgrade to 14

its the latest lts

[earnest phoenix]

Use n or nvm

[crimson vapor]

what does ?? do?

[slim umbra]

i showed u

[crimson vapor]

I mean

[slim umbra]

#commands message

[crimson vapor]

in english

I saw you use it

but im not quite sure

[slim umbra]

nullish coalescing

so

if

a in a ?? b

is !a = true

a ?? b = b

[crimson vapor]

ok

do we say yes or no?

[earnest phoenix]

You shouldn't go for the latest

[crimson vapor]

since its not wrong but its not right

[earnest phoenix]

Use LTS

[slim umbra]

yeah 15 has been annoying for me

[quartz kindle]

how so?

because of npm v7?

[slim umbra]

yeah it was doing weird stuff in package-lock

and on other versions of node npm got confused

[crimson vapor]

what is package-lock even?

[slim umbra]

yes i use npm i apologize in advance

[misty sigil]

so do I

[quartz kindle]

well i use npm as well lol

[earnest phoenix]

Well it's because of the yarn stuff support or whatever

The package-lock formats were changed

[sterile lantern]

so say u generate a premium code
db.set(premium, code)

but what if I run the generate again

[quartz kindle]

package-lock is like, "this program has been tested and developed with these exact package versions"

[sterile lantern]

it will replace the existing premium code

[crimson vapor]

oh

[slim umbra]

oh my r u using quick.db

[sterile lantern]

yes

y

[slim umbra]

u didnt install node 14 my friend

u installed 15

[sterile lantern]

wdym?

oh

not me nvm

[slim umbra]

okay

[crimson vapor]

npm i canvas

[quartz kindle]

so you can use package-lock to make sure the exact same versions are installed elsewhere and ensure everything works, instead of installing the latest versions

[crimson vapor]

iirc

[slim umbra]

npm rebuild

[crimson vapor]

oh

[slim umbra]

dont use quick.db tho

its kinda terrible

[quartz kindle]

npm rebuild

[queen needle]

then why not db.set(premium_${code}, code) or something

[slim umbra]

why the fuck

[weary ore]

if i create a structure file would that be better for a economy bot

[earnest phoenix]

Ah yes, we're iterating through many errors

[slim umbra]

uh u didnt install node properly

[queen needle]

yeah you should use mongo or sql

[quartz kindle]

node node index.js

[slim umbra]

lmfao

[quartz kindle]

wat

[slim umbra]

mongo or sql

oh

i didnt catch that lmfao

[earnest phoenix]

lol

node.org

[slim umbra]

nvmnvm

[quartz kindle]

for(let error in errors) {
  Tim.plsFix(error)
}

[slim umbra]

ignore that

[earnest phoenix]

This guy tried to make his process 2 times faster by doing node node <file>

[queen needle]

node node node

[slim umbra]

the one thing he didnt realize is

that hes using node so it only goes slwoer

[quartz kindle]

if you have 32 bit windows, just install it twice so you get 64 bit

[crimson vapor]

voltrex its not 2 times faster, its ^2 times faster

[earnest phoenix]

https://nodejs.org/en/download/

[crimson vapor]

because its not 2 node its node * node

[sonic lodge]

node index.js not node node index.js

[earnest phoenix]

I don't speak math

[crimson vapor]

I do

a little

[queen needle]

voltrex speaks javascript

[earnest phoenix]

I speak Node.js

[crimson vapor]

doesnt know math

[earnest phoenix]

[crimson vapor]

knows code

:bigbrain:

[slim umbra]

u must speak slowly

[quartz kindle]

i only know math until 7th grade

[crimson vapor]

oof

[earnest phoenix]

🗿 At least faster than others

[sterile lantern]

does quick.db have a insertOne function

[queen needle]

no

[slim umbra]

dont use quick.db

[sterile lantern]

oof

[slim umbra]

thats my answer

[earnest phoenix]

Those are mongodb methods

[queen needle]

use mongo

[sterile lantern]

y it’s easy to use

[queen needle]

so is mongo

[slim umbra]

its also slow

[sterile lantern]

mongo is

complicated

[quartz kindle]

npm cannot install node lol

[earnest phoenix]

npm i n -g

n <node version>

[slim umbra]

literally every database is easy to use depending on ur dedication to read documentation

[solemn latch]

quickdb is easy until you need some real features

[summer torrent]

npm is node's package manager lmao

[sterile lantern]

So if I generated a code

It’s set to “premium_code, code”

But if I generated another code

[sudden geyser]

forgot to filter dms

[sterile lantern]

It overrides the existing code

[queen needle]

it would be a different thing in database

[quartz kindle]

it doesnt matter if you use 14 or 15, dont fret over it lol

[sterile lantern]

oh really??

bruh that’s epic

[crimson vapor]

json db is the best

[sterile lantern]

JSON??

LOL

[crimson vapor]

yes

[queen needle]

no it would be thing1_code1 thing2_code2

[slim umbra]

oh my top.gg dev chat just makes me

[earnest phoenix]

Imagine not using file database system

[sterile lantern]

aight thanks

[crimson vapor]

fs.readFile('db.json', (data, err) => {})

best code for db

[sterile lantern]

also does better sqlite 3

have a

web system?

[queen needle]

nah the best db is this.var

[earnest phoenix]

Sarcasm level here is off the charts

[quartz kindle]

web system?

[sterile lantern]

so you can view your DB on a website

[quartz kindle]

no

you have to code that yourself

[sterile lantern]

oof rip

[slim umbra]

braincells are like below the charts here

[queen needle]

wait brain cells exist here?

[slim umbra]

reload webstorm terminal

[quartz kindle]

lol

[earnest phoenix]

🗿 There is no, "brain cells"

[slim umbra]

needs the latest bash or zsh source

(assuming ur not epic enuf to use fish)

[quartz kindle]

i need to wash my brain cells in the shower now

[crimson vapor]

are you sure?

I will code you guys the best db code you have ever seen

[earnest phoenix]

for (let brainCell of Tim.brainCells) {
await brainCell.wash(3); // Be sure to clean it 3 times
}```

[sterile lantern]

what other DBs are similar to quick.db

and actually use a website

[queen needle]

this.544676649510371328_bal = 50```

[sterile lantern]

to store stuff

[slim umbra]

i use scylla in prod and its pretty great

[solemn latch]

quick db doesnt use a website does it 🤔

[sterile lantern]

no

that’s why I’m asking

if there’s anything similar to quick db but uses a website

[queen needle]

cant you see your database with mongo?

[slim umbra]

but i dont think u have enuf braincells to comprehend cql or scylla as a whole

[solemn latch]

well, if you want it to use a website, like an api? i would build something myself 🤔

[sterile lantern]

hm

k

[quartz kindle]

no database uses a website lol. there are programs out there that read the database and build a webserver where you can read and interact with it. the same can be done with any database whatsoever, just that some popular ones already a few written for them

if you just google "web dashboard for XYZ database" you will likely find many options

[sterile lantern]

ya that’s what I mean

hm

[crimson vapor]

rethinkdb

[sterile lantern]

kk

[quartz kindle]

keep in mind that quick.db is not a database, its a database wrapper, so you wont find anything if you search for "dashboards for quick.db"

[sterile lantern]

how does rethink db work

[slim umbra]

thumbnail?.source

oh wait

[quartz kindle]

thumbnail?.source should work then

[slim umbra]

that url doesnt seem to exist lol

just tested and

its not parsing as json

so thats ur problem

[quartz kindle]

it works for me

so what is the problem?

[crimson vapor]

const fs = require('fs');

const DB_PATH = 'data.json'

function readDB() {
  try {
    return JSON.parse(fs.readFileSync(DB_PATH));
  } catch (err) {
    throw "An error occured when reading from the DB.";
  }
}

function writeDB(data) {
  try {
    data = JSON.stringify(data);
    fs.writeFileSync(DB_PATH, data);
    return true;
  } catch (err) {
    throw "An error occured when writing to the DB.";
  }
}

function saveDataToDB(type, key, value) {
  let data = readDB();
  data[type][key] = value;
  writeDB(data);
  return true;
}```

rate my code

[quartz kindle]

a solid 5/7

[crimson vapor]

why 5?

why not 8

[boreal iron]

Because you don’t know which args he puts behind (args.join()...)

[slim umbra]

kinda shit bc functional code node oop

[keen drift]

Hey, anyone provisioned Flannel, Calico, Canal or Weave networking plane before for a cluster?

[quartz kindle]

both me and doge told you what to do

thumbnail?.source || "fallback url"

[slim umbra]

i mean we've said it tons of times now

fucking read or get out

[crimson vapor]

unless thumbnail.source is a string "undefined"

[earnest phoenix]

A solid ineffienct/efficient

[crimson vapor]

how would you improve my code?

[quartz kindle]

google "5/7 meme"

[crimson vapor]

oh

a meme

[slim umbra]

just like ur code

[quartz kindle]

want a json db competition?

lmao

[slim umbra]

yesyes

[earnest phoenix]

No tim, don't make me eval

[slim umbra]

need to see the pinnacle in speed

[queen needle]

voltrex has entered the chat

[crimson vapor]

oh

so perfect?

[sterile lantern]

how would I make it so the bot checks if a premium code is in the DB and not claimed

[slim umbra]

oh god

sigh

[queen needle]

object with a boolean or something

[slim umbra]

hes using quick.db

[queen needle]

you can still set objects

[crimson vapor]

make premium codes an object and add code: boolean default to false

set to true when used

[sterile lantern]

o

[slim umbra]

quick.db does objs

wut

[crimson vapor]

or just remove

[sterile lantern]

isee

[crimson vapor]

does it not?

WHAT

[sterile lantern]

u can do db.set(code, false)

[earnest phoenix]

🗿

[sterile lantern]

oh ik what to do

[slim umbra]

it does

[crimson vapor]

ok good

[slim umbra]

atleast use this if ur gonna use quick.db https://github.com/plexidev/quick.db-rs

[queen needle]

let premobj = {
code: "bleh",
claimed: false
}
db.set(`prem_${premobj.code}`, premobj)```

[crimson vapor]

@quartz kindle what else should I add to my db code?

sorry if you were typing

[sterile lantern]

let pcode = db.fetch(code)
if(pcode === claimed) return msg.send(already claimed)

[crimson vapor]

and need to stop your thought

[sterile lantern]

that’s a horrible piece of code but just an example

[crimson vapor]

yea

[earnest phoenix]

Well not a strict equally comparison, just access the property

[sterile lantern]

hm so if someone entered the code as args 1, would I just do db.set args 1, claimed ?

example once again

if it’s a valid code ofc

[queen needle]

if you use something like i sent you could do js if(db.fetch(`prem_${args[0]}`).claimed === true) return <message>.channel.send("no")

[earnest phoenix]

You want to overwrite the previous document?

=== true is redundant

[queen needle]

no u

[earnest phoenix]

[crimson vapor]

yeah

[slim umbra]

[crimson vapor]

especially if it was set to a string for some reason

[earnest phoenix]

Tim is writing the entire bible in 3 different ugandan languages

[queen needle]

his code will fix every problem ever

[quartz kindle]

const fs = require('fs');

class JSONDB {
  constructor(file) {
    this._file = file;
    try {
      this._data = JSON.parse(fs.readFileSync(file, "utf8"));
    } catch(e) {
      this._data = {}
      fs.writeFileSync(file, "{}", "utf8");
    }
  }
  get(key) {
    return this._data[key];
  }
  set(key, value) {
    this._data[key] = value;
    try {
      fs.writeFileSync(this._file + "-temp", JSON.stringify(this._data), "utf8");
      fs.renameSync(this._file + "-temp", this._file);
    } catch(e) {
      throw "An error occured when writing to the DB: " + e;
    }
  }
}

lmao

[slim umbra]

i hate my life https://i-love.helper.wtf/f5aTqkn.png

thank god atleast its oop lmao

[queen needle]

what is oop?

[quartz kindle]

object oriented programming

[opal plank]

old outdated programming

[quartz kindle]

out of poo

[opal plank]

fuck, cant beat that one

you win

gg

oily oil poo

[stoic moon]

How do i get it to show nsfw servers?

[earnest phoenix]

[opal plank]

what now?

[stoic moon]

the website

[opal plank]

define it

[crimson vapor]

oop based json db

[slim umbra]

wrong channel my friend

[crimson vapor]

hmm

[slim umbra]

wrong website too probs

[quartz kindle]

what website?

[stoic moon]

top gg

[opal plank]

u cant show nsfw in top,.gg

[stoic moon]

sort by most users

[earnest phoenix]

My man really wrote a class

[opal plank]

its against the rules iirc

[crimson vapor]

Tim you should add different collections

[stoic moon]

https://top.gg/servers/list/top?sort=members

this website

[crimson vapor]

then upload it to github

we can have a json db competition

[opal plank]

ask in #support

[crimson vapor]

best json db gets a vote for their bot

[earnest phoenix]

Well tim never lost a competition so there's no point

[opal plank]

import jsondb from 'jsondb'```

done

[sudden geyser]

JSONDB => JsonDB

[opal plank]

actually i can top it up

import pg from 'pg';

cuz postgreSQL, if you using any other database, you doing it wrong

[quartz kindle]

i mean, what would the criteria be?

performance?

being less bad than others?

[slim umbra]

dont use pg use pg-native

[crimson vapor]

how quickly the db corrupts

more points the more writes

[slim umbra]

well thats easy then

just write atomically

and ur safe

[opal plank]

pg > pg-native

[quartz kindle]

which is basically what i did

[crimson vapor]

yes

[slim umbra]

oh what basis lmfao

[opal plank]

every

[crimson vapor]

so anyway

[slim umbra]

the fact that pg-native is faster?

[opal plank]

their libis better

[crimson vapor]

we should still have the competition

anyone else want to make a json db

[slim umbra]

how so?

[quartz kindle]

i already killed my json db when i moved to sqlite, so not really lmao

[crimson vapor]

ok

[opal plank]

they actually have properly written types than the garbage attrocity they did in postgres

interface PromiseReturns {
[key:string]:any

}```

fucking lazy pricks

i remember they did this shit 3 or 4 times

[slim umbra]

ah well ur a genius whose using ts 🤯

[opal plank]

its a hell to write interfaces when they do this garbage

[quartz kindle]

btw how would you add jsdoc to a native library?

[slim umbra]

u dont lmao

[opal plank]

it should be able to import jsdocs

[quartz kindle]

i can write a typings file

but idk how to jsdoc it xd

[opal plank]

https://www.typescriptlang.org/docs/handbook/jsdoc-supported-types.html

[quartz kindle]

unless you can put the jsdoc in the typings?

[slim umbra]

u probs can just put it in the types yeah

[opal plank]

it should import them just fine tim

lemme double check

it looks like the usual imports

either import at top of your code or simply
index.dt.ts

[quartz kindle]

i'll look into it later then, i didnt even publish the lib yet

[opal plank]

tim 100% making a nsfw bot

[earnest phoenix]

Wait, what lib

[opal plank]

d.js 2

[quartz kindle]

nothing much, just a remake of an existing native lib but using N-API instead of NAN

[opal plank]

nhentie api, man of culture

[quartz kindle]

lmao

[opal plank]

[earnest phoenix]

🗿

[opal plank]

[quartz kindle]

i've been using the existing native lib for a few years now, and it works well, but it has some weird bugs

mine works perfectly

[opal plank]

thats what i say about the main library for twitch

though i cant say mine works perfectly as its possibly a flag trigger for internal twitch spam

[quartz kindle]

xD

i contributed a lot to the existing one, but icba anymore

i basically PRed all the latest major updates by myself

[opal plank]

tim needs to colab with me

just saying

ts vs js mashup

[quartz kindle]

lmao

[crimson vapor]

wait does data corrupt with writeFileSync?

[opal plank]

reading? no

[quartz kindle]

i'll make the js libs, you turn them into ts

[opal plank]

writing is issue

sounds like a deal

[earnest phoenix]

Collaboration with tim, loggers moment

[quartz kindle]

data corrupts when the writing operation is interrupted, for example by a program crash or forced exit

[opal plank]

its not like to turn them into ts its as simple as changing the extension and adding types, cuz all the transpilation is done with ts

[crimson vapor]

so realistically your way of making a tmp file prevents that right

[quartz kindle]

yes

[crimson vapor]

ok time to make a git repo

[quartz kindle]

because a rename operation is Atomic

[opal plank]

boom

[quartz kindle]

its fully done by the operating system, and not by the node process

[earnest phoenix]

I wonder where tim finds these logics from

Pretty interesting

[quartz kindle]

i read a lot of random stuff on the internet

xD

[earnest phoenix]

Tim's search history must be interesting

[opal plank]

@quartz kindle

you write lib, i port it to ts, deal

[quartz kindle]

lmao

[slim umbra]

is tht default vsc theme

ew

[opal plank]

is that some skid complaining about my code while they dont even know async properly?

[earnest phoenix]

Changes extension
Woah wtf, magic

[opal plank]

[quartz kindle]

eh not much

[opal plank]

is that leaking guild ids?

bean, reported

[crimson vapor]

but its like

a user not a bot

[quartz kindle]

its this guild

lmao

[opal plank]

oh

[crimson vapor]

anyway how do you make npm modules?

[opal plank]

rip lmao

[earnest phoenix]

Mods would get banned if they try to ban tim

[crimson vapor]

yeah

Tim is too powerful

[earnest phoenix]

That's how life works

[opal plank]

irl too

[quartz kindle]

use npm publish or a third party library like np

[crimson vapor]

no I mean how do I make it so I can require my code in another place

sorry I didn't say what I meant

[quartz kindle]

you module.exports it from your main file

[crimson vapor]

o

[opal plank]

then simply require()

or import and use es6 modules if you fancy and need an extra monocle

🧐

[quartz kindle]

damn englishman

[opal plank]

shits so fancy i need 2 monocles

named exports

aliases

[earnest phoenix]

Life changes when you discover JS module exports

[opal plank]

[quartz kindle]

my life changed when i understood js prototypes

[crimson vapor]

what do you mean

your life changed

[civic relic]

hello

[crimson vapor]

aren't prototypes what every instance has access to

[quartz kindle]

ye, and once you understand them, you can essentially hack anything in js

[opal plank]

now not only tim's code is spaguetti, but all the other libs he hacks with protorypes too

[crimson vapor]

oh

[opal plank]

no

not THAT hack

its not as cool as you think

you just add methods and change functions

[crimson vapor]

lol

[earnest phoenix]

Prototype pollution

[opal plank]

and other extras bits, like hacking NASA and the FBI, but those are less important

[crimson vapor]

^

[quartz kindle]

lmao

the entire djslight lib is prototype pollution

[earnest phoenix]

Spaghetti

Yum

Where's the lamb sauce

[quartz kindle]

i drank it

[opal plank]

i dont like that comma in there nor that comment, .prototype. the fuck out of it

[crimson vapor]

is there any way for me to set a constant in a package without using classes

[quartz kindle]

wat

[crimson vapor]

english hard when I just add words, you know

[opal plank]

why am i listening to Phao while talking here?

[slender thistle]

My life changed when I knew JS existed

[opal plank]

to worse?

[slender thistle]

Yup

[opal plank]

saw that coming from a mile away lmao

[crimson vapor]

so I have a constant DB_PATH how would I change that normally without using classes?

[opal plank]

Ts is the promised land shiv, im telling you

[slender thistle]

I did want to finish that message with "for the worse" but couldn't be assed to

[opal plank]

its py without the nuinsences

[slender thistle]

I need to learn TS

[opal plank]

you do

[sudden geyser]

your medicine is venom

[crimson vapor]

String.prototype.reset = function() { return this = "" }

best code

[opal plank]

tim

[slender thistle]

My medicine is Python and I'm high

[earnest phoenix]

Woah getting naughty there

[quartz kindle]

strings are immutable tho xD

[crimson vapor]

o