development

[neon leaf]

seems like the query is taking its good time to run

id | location | type | format | uuid
----+----------+------+--------+------
(0 rows)

dam

[frosty gale]

i would ban them ngl

no half hearted messags on my watch

[slender wagon]

Sorry im not a captialist yet

when i get there sure

orrr the corporate special, leave the min wage employee take all the fire

[frosty gale]

wanted to share this IT ticket we just received, typical IT experience

[deft wolf]

How is that even possible to do

[slender wagon]

💀 i wouldn't wanna work with u

is that ur response at the end

[frosty gale]

no thats a colleague lmao

[slender wagon]

oh

[frosty gale]

they also send it in to a helpdesk email so they mustve just set the subject and sent an empty body lmao

IT isnt my primary job role but its always a gem having access to it

[delicate zephyr]

We've had people open tickets just to get the support phone number

the phone number is literally above the submit button

you can really make this shit up lmao

[neon leaf]

guys I have fallen into the trap

I have written my first microservice

[frosty gale]

too bad stoning went out of fashion

jk(?)

[neon leaf]

I really just needed a small microservice for my ancient typescript codebase to speed up a specific process 💔

too much work to rewrite the entire thing and too urgent to do something else

[wheat mesa]

Honestly microservices aren’t evil until it becomes a mentality of “EVERY FUNCTION MUST BE A MICROSERVICE!!!”

Good for scalability compared to monoliths

It also keeps DevOps employed

[lyric mountain]

nothing, but having a window allows aggregates to be calculated in a separate context

the idea for that query was to grab the first and the last values for build_id to later use as a join condition (to get only those builds)

WITH builds AS (
  SELECT *
       , first_value(bc.build_id) OVER w AS first_build
       , last_value(bc.build_id) OVER w AS last_build
  FROM config_values cv
  INNER JOIN build_configs bc ON bc.config_id = cv.config_id
  WINDOW w AS (ORDER BY bc.build_id)
)
SELECT c.*
FROM configs c
INNER JOIN builds b ON b.uuid = c.uuid AND b.build_id IN (b.first_build, b.last_build)
ORDER BY b.build_id
``` try with a cte instead

[neon leaf]

been running for 6min so far

[lyric mountain]

ugh

hm, aight there's a way to reduce it a bit

WITH builds AS (
  SELECT bc.config_id
       , bc.build_id
       , first_value(bc.build_id) OVER w AS first_build
       , last_value(bc.build_id) OVER w AS last_build
  FROM build_configs bc
  WINDOW w AS (PARTITION BY bc.config_id ORDER BY bc.build_id)
)
SELECT c.*
FROM configs c
INNER JOIN config_values cv ON cv.uuid = c.uuid
INNER JOIN builds b ON cv.config_id = b.config_id
WHERE b.build_id IN (b.first_build, b.last_build)
ORDER BY b.build_id

[neon leaf]

i replaced b.uuid = c.uuid with b.build_id = c.id and got the following:

[lyric mountain]

oh wait, right hold on

there

forgot to replace the conditions

[neon leaf]

now its 0 rows

[lyric mountain]

meh

[neon leaf]

18ms atleast

[lyric mountain]

show what the cte select returns

maybe I'm misunderstanding the data involved

[lyric mountain]

ok, yeah i am

actually, just a window issue

aight a bit verbose

WITH builds AS (
  SELECT bc.config_id
       , bc.build_id
       , first_value(bc.build_id) OVER w AS first_build
       , last_value(bc.build_id) OVER w AS last_build
  FROM build_configs bc
  WINDOW w AS (PARTITION BY bc.config_id ORDER BY bc.build_id ROWS BETWEEN UNBOUNDED PRECEDING AND UNBOUNDED FOLLOWING)
)
SELECT c.*
FROM configs c
INNER JOIN config_values cv ON cv.uuid = c.uuid
INNER JOIN builds b ON cv.config_id = b.config_id
WHERE b.build_id IN (b.first_build, b.last_build)
ORDER BY b.build_id

ooooor optionally

[neon leaf]

0 rows

[lyric mountain]

nvm

if u remove the where clause does it return anything?

[neon leaf]

nope

[lyric mountain]

inner join issue then

ok, for a test, remove INNER JOIN builds b line and the where clause

[neon leaf]

0 rows ✨

[lyric mountain]

what's the relation between configs and config_values?

are u able to generate a uml of those 3 tables?

[lyric mountain]

umm, u dont use foreign keys?

[neon leaf]

i do, i am using dbeaver for the first time no clue how to make it display it properly

[lyric mountain]

ok so, build_configs is actually the n<>n table?

thought configs joined to config_values

[neon leaf]

build_configs joins a build with some config values, the config_id on it is purely for a unique index of build_id,config_id

[lyric mountain]

but is configs.id = build_configs.config_id and config_values.id = build_configs.config_value_id?

[neon leaf]

yes

[lyric mountain]

aight, can work with that then

btw, might want to make PRIMARY KEY (build_id, config_id, config_value_id)

[neon leaf]

close enough

[lyric mountain]

WITH builds AS (
  SELECT bc.config_id
       , bc.config_value_id
       , bc.build_id
       , first_value(bc.build_id) OVER w AS first_build
       , last_value(bc.build_id) OVER w AS last_build
  FROM build_configs bc
  WINDOW w AS (PARTITION BY bc.config_id ORDER BY bc.build_id ROWS BETWEEN UNBOUNDED PRECEDING AND UNBOUNDED FOLLOWING)
)
SELECT c.*
FROM configs c
INNER JOIN builds b ON b.config_id = c.id
INNER JOIN config_values cv ON cv.id = b.config_value_id
WHERE b.build_id IN (b.first_build, b.last_build)
ORDER BY b.build_id

or just make the cte return a * instead of each field individually

[neon leaf]

SQL-Fehler [42P01]: ERROR: missing FROM-clause entry for table "cv"

[lyric mountain]

oh lmao, it's c.id

[neon leaf]

hmm, 58 rows

definitely too little but lemme see

ok so, ig this is every combination of location + type now

nvm some are doubled

i dont know what this is

[lyric mountain]

that's because we're not distincting by uuid

the doubled ones are builds where both first_build and last_build are the same

[neon leaf]

ahh

uh

that shouldnt be the case with this data tho

theres no config_value thats the same on first ever and last ever type its on

[lyric mountain]

might be an issue on PARTITION BY bc.config_id

I assumed it'd be grouped by config_id, but if this isn't the case you need to replace the field there

[civic sundial]

Nooooooo i mean like its showing commands on the bot

[deft wolf]

Yes it does and you can't really control that

Only known requirements are: your bot being verified and discord having enough usage data of your bot's commands

Don't ask how much is enough, no one can answer this question afaik

[unreal mist]

Would anyone with experience in 3NF mind taking a quick look at the tables I've made based on an ERD I did for an earlier assignment when you have a chance? I'm not sure if I've correctly turned it entirely 3NF ready to turn into a functional DB, any feedback is appreciated ❤️

[meager forge]

Anyone know a way I can test raid protection features on my bot.

I don’t quite know raid methods that people use. I know one where they mention everyone and link an nsfw server. Which I have made a protection feature for this. But I don’t know any other raid methods to be on a lookout for

[bleak nimbus]

Mass pings, spam, a bunch of joins at the same time (could be bots)

Just examples

[neon leaf]

does anyone know whether its possible to kill all connections (not sessions) of a user in mongodb?

[neon leaf]

nevermind i was skill issuing, you have to enable auth in the mongod config for basically anything to work

[supple goblet]

hello @topaz island

[prime cliff]

Good everyone ping

[craggy pine]

Poor everywhere getting pinged. What he do to you 😠 lol

[lyric mountain]

oooo miyu, long time no see

[craggy pine]

Indeed long time no see 🙂 I still lerk in this chat. I enjoy looking at the code blocks

[vivid fulcrum]

I would last about one ticket reply at that job before getting fired 😁

[upbeat dust]

how long is the review process now? its been a while since i’ve used top.gg

[vivid fulcrum]

🤷‍♂️ last I've read it's about 2 weeks

no set timespan

[scenic adder]

It varies by how many request are in at the moment sometimes it can take from 1 to 3 weeks. Similar to what cry has stated. Sometimes they work faster depending on how many reviewers are active.

[civic sundial]

why dont my bot have commands like this on its profile

[languid mica]

gotta find the commands id and then put it in there, iirc you do it how you @ a user with an ID but feel free to correct me

[civic sundial]

put where in bot about ?

[languid mica]

yup

on your dev portal

[civic sundial]

how do i get command id 🤔

[languid mica]

i cant exactly remember, though a little googling will probably tell you

[civic sundial]

na ah bro it says right click and copy id but i dont have that option ( i have dev mode on already )

[fierce orbit]

On web/desktop, you do your slash command in a chat and right click the darken box to get "Copy command id"

[lament rock]

Love how confidently incorrect everyone is

[fierce orbit]

Ngl I only read like a part of the convo so only answering how to get the ID

[deft wolf]

Kinda deserved for ignoring the answers to your questions

[warm surge]

discord will automatically do that but it’s unknown when they will post it

it’s most used commands bs

[warm surge]

^

[warm surge]

indeed

[ancient sage]

How would I set up a ai bat man voice chat robot?

[lament rock]

If you're asking that question here, you REALLY should not be trying to do that. Something simpler like music bots are already a nightmare. A lot of the voice libs I've worked with as well are just really weird

Consider easier projects until you're confident in asking more targeted questions like what platforms others use for voice synthesis or if self hosting something for that is even feasible

[civic sundial]

the darker box i thought its the one where you type like if its /ban command then where you mention user its that thanks tho really helpful

[civic sundial]

one more thing how do i do this on my bot

[stark kestrel]

once your bot is verified, it comes automatically

once discord has enough data about your bot's usage and what the most used commands of your bot are

it has nothing to do with commands id or whatever

commands id are used for when you want your bot to send a message where it mentions a command and people can just click on it

e.g. </airhorn:816437322781949972>

[deft wolf]

He asked this 3 times already and at least 2 times ignored the correct answer

I wonder if he's gonna ignore your answer too

[civic sundial]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh thats what webster told me then some guy said it is if you mention bot command like we mention user with @ and its id he said thats how its done so i was like maybe there are 2 ways or smth

[civic sundial]

when did i ignore it 😭😭😭

idkk mate

[stark kestrel]

yeah they probably didn't look at the picture properly

[civic sundial]

ty ty sir also ummm i been trying to get message content intent cuz my bot have chat level system it wont work till i have msg content intent sooo any tips cuz i been rejected once for just idk he said wait there Unfortunately, I am denying your Privileged Intent request. This is because we are unable to access your attachments for download. Feel free to reapply and make sure the images and videos are accessible without requiring files to be downloaded locally.

[stark kestrel]

Do what they said

Provide the proper images

[civic sundial]

idk how cuz it just gave me option to attach links and i did copied it from like how you send image in discord server or dm then copy the link i did that and pasted it

[deft wolf]

Use some image sharing website like imgur because discord links expire after 24h

[robust garnet]

do bots usually take more than a week to get reviewed

[deft wolf]

It's 1-2 weeks

So it could take even 2 weeks and sometimes even more

Depending on the queue size for example

[robust garnet]

fair enough

i should update the page since i made new commands

[prime cliff]

Dont use imgur btw its blocked in uk

[deft wolf]

That's new to me but who would've guessed that

[hard zenith]

I’ve collected all of the special eggs! 🥚
Would like some more volunteers to color to add but tis going well
#development message

[hazy heron]

thats cool

[frosty gale]

is it just me or has chatgpt recently become unbearably argumentative and refuses to accept anything you say

i feel like they're trying to match claude's hallucination/blind agreement rate but they're doing it too aggressively in a way that impacts quality

claude has a good balance between accepting its wrong and hallucinating answers

[mossy apex]

what is Claude?

💀
I'm not joining that server

[deft wolf]

AI

[mossy apex]

ohh

[neon leaf]

@delicate zephyr @knotty night

[digital swan]

i've not been using chatgpt for ages, the way it formats its answers pisses me off

[eternal schooner]

fr chatgbt is soo bad

and dumb one time i told him to makee me a dog he made me a cat in a spaceship eating sushi

[deft wolf]

Next time be more specific

[eternal schooner]

i am being specific

[shut widget]

Omg guys is someone here who is good in html like fr really good? Need help for my bot top gg site

[stark kestrel]

html isn't rocket science

a few <...> and with some content as per docs

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Reference/Elements

when css comes in, the pain comes as well :D

[deft wolf]

Ugh, frontend

[queen needle]

wooo frontend

[deft wolf]

Woo is no longer among us :(

[frosty gale]

chatgpt ragebaiting fr

leaked openai system prompt:
"try to ragebait the user as much as you can without telling them"

[hard zenith]

Better than the rest imo

[digital swan]

Ikr I tell it to stfu and keep things simple and then it comes out with

✅ 100% LEGIT FULLY WORKING FINAL VERSION COMPLETE

[frosty gale]

"👉👉 Here's why it works ✅" (it doesn't)

[clever tundra]

"If you want, I can update the code I just gave you with the real working code?"

[bleak nimbus]

So, I'm working on adding more keys to my bot for functionality and I was curious if anyone had any ideas? It's not a typical bot and not easy to understand unless you have some form of coding knowledge (which, this is a bot channel so I'd hope thatd be the case). Anyone got any recommendations?

It cant join VCs yet but I do plan to add a way to make this possible.

[deft wolf]

Crazy thing to wake up to

[eager trail]

ragebait chatgpt instead

[sharp geyser]

definitely didnt tell it to respond like that beforehand

[eager trail]

definitely

[bleak nimbus]

This how you do it

[frosty gale]

how tf do you even get chatgpt to speak like a gooner

[bleak nimbus]

You should've seen the shit I got it to say last year. I was instigating some horrendous activity

[frosty gale]

ai needs to be stopped

[stark kestrel]

LLMs changes bringing github down

thanks microslop

[neon leaf]

nice work gemini

[harsh nova]

It's interesting seeing how lobotomized AI-agents, in my case mistral AI agents, are in the consumer chat version versus when consumed directly thru the API. Implemented some AI features for my bot and played around with what I could get it to say. It very very easily became quite horrible so had to lobotomize it myself thru the system prompts. Figured there'd be more safeguards directly on the model itself

[eternal osprey]

Boys i talked about golf clubs with my friends

Like irl

And i got a tiktok ad about golf clubs

How

I swear i searched nothing prior to this convo, during or after related to golfing

[frosty gale]

tbh usually at this point i go to defend the conglomerate and say that its probably a coincidence but at this point it happens so often that i think something is being sussy and listening to us

[lament rock]

It happens with me and my wife as well that we're talking about stuff or watching videos together and the other one gets recommended content on their account

Like... All the time

[frosty gale]

me when police come to my house because i talked to myself about killing forked children in ipc and google assistant heard it

[queen needle]

https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/open-lawsuit-settlements/135m-google-android-data-transfer-class-action-settlement/

I just saw this earlier and came in here and saw your message lol

[frosty gale]

android literally sends a signal to google every time you open and close an app

idek how to disable it

[lament rock]

block google's ip :)

[frosty gale]

if there was grapheneos for samsung i wouldve got it :(

but then i also like google wallet and i lose that with graphene sadly

[lament rock]

Wonder if there's any system modifications you can make

Then again, I have no idea how stuff like root works in relation to something like iOS jailbreaking as they had an app where you could just install tweaks from a centralized platform, but add sources

[frosty gale]

similar with android root but you have a few options, usually not all in the same place though

for system/kernel level patches you'd use lsposed (xposed replacement), for root apps you can prob just use fdroid or download them directly

[neon leaf]

i root my phones mainly so I can do full snapshots

but yeah its trivial to nuke telemetry

cant get google wallet working anyway so

@delicate zephyr

https://github.com/LaurieWired/tailslayer interesting

[eternal osprey]

I use iphone tho

But i swear it happens to me as well

I am so close to buying one of those old flip phones again

I swear this happens a lot to me. Golf clubs, vacuums, even cookies. All gave me targeted tiktok and google ads which is crazy

[upbeat vigil]

Hi

[civic sundial]

how can i promote my bot 🤔

[hard zenith]

https://discord.com/channels/264445053596991498/921136635733762058
auctions are a good start!

[civic sundial]

whats the minimum it cost

[hard zenith]

I personally don’t use but you can read up on their guides. https://support.top.gg/hc/en-us/articles/23146173577372-How-Do-I-Use-Auctions

[civic sundial]

hb smth else ?

[hard zenith]

Well there are other servers out there that might could help you progress other than auctions. Unfortunately, I cannot recommend another way. Apologies

[civic sundial]

Nw

[robust garnet]

any free websites where i can host my discord bot 24/7 which will also have persistent storage...

🥹

[deft wolf]

You are asking for too much for free discord bot hosting

[robust garnet]

💔

[deft wolf]

There are free vps trials but you need to give them your cc info

[robust garnet]

should i host it on replit then host the database on supabase

[deft wolf]

Replit is not really a discord bot hosting

Unless you pay them

[robust garnet]

aw man

what should i do

[deft wolf]

Either find a cheap vps or go with a free trials but you need to give them cc info because that how anti abuse works for most of them

[robust garnet]

fair enough

[lament rock]

Buy a raspberry pi

or convert some craptop you dont use anymore to a server

[robust garnet]

i got pinged and thought my bot got reviewed

🥹

[lament rock]

Denied >:(

Jk

[robust garnet]

💔

[robust garnet]

like run it locally 24/7

[lament rock]

Thats the method

[robust garnet]

clean that dust psl

pls

💔

[lament rock]

Nah

[deft wolf]

There is no reason if it's not overheating I guess

[robust garnet]

YEAH BUT

UGHHHHHH

i hate seeing dust idk

[frosty gale]

its really cool but i feel meh about it

looks very situational and hardware dependent

as is usually the case with undocumented quirks

you know someone is a performance nerd when they use always inline everywhere

[eternal osprey]

i finally was able to make chatgpt swear

i sent him a crazy ass regex and said why doesn't this work

it told me, ah this is a gotcha that fucks everyone

lmao

[fierce orbit]

I have been able to make ChatGPT say some crazy things

It’s really special circumstances and a lot of convincing but it worked

[deft wolf]

crazy things

[deft wolf]

I ain't reading allat

[frosty gale]

damn these ai thingies are starting to become weird

[clever tundra]

#discord-news message
thank god i have that intent

[slender wagon]

Doesn’t sam own anthropic tho

Nvm

[slender wagon]

Isn't it scary how the entire world is dependent on just a few services...
cloudflare, aws etc etc

[midnight merlin]

true ngl

i remember when couldflare went down for a while

the chaos it caused

google, chatgpt, etc
all were down

[deft wolf]

Not entire world but most of it

I would call it monopoly

[slender wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/shark-great-white-shark-gif-1382775562057208206

[lyric mountain]

100 years of human technology VS a silly blahaj

[frosty gale]

kinda not surprised to see fireship in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoibAbdQf58

he's felt off for a while now

also did fireship delete his discord? i swear i was in it before but cant find it anymore

[deft wolf]

What if they banned you from it

[frosty gale]

i never spoke there lmao

i see some others asking the same q as well

[sage bobcat]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[lament rock]

Cant tell if satire

if not, youtuber

[slender wagon]

bound to happen but ugly nonetheless

[frosty gale]

if any of you call yourselves a developer and dont know fireship then dont speak to me ❤️

[slender wagon]

Fireslop

[neon leaf]

I love react ref abuse ❤️

pure component? never heard of it

[slender wagon]

I have been rocking astro and solidjs lately

[neon leaf]

still need to try astro

have never used anything outside of react world besides raw dom manipulation

[frosty gale]

whenever i use ref i go "that kinda defeats the point but fine"

[neon leaf]

refs have improved rendering on one page i touched from 1.2s to 100ms

this is on a 9900x

dont even imagine on an average cpu

[slender wagon]

So erm guys. My bot is growing right. It’s all in a dedi in hetzner and so is the db
What’s the best way of handling backups

[neon leaf]

sql dump and upload it to r2 via restic

[frosty gale]

you can use hetzner automatic backups which is most likely good enough for your use case, but i just take manual snapshots since theyre cheaper (you can also automate the snapshots to act like backups but cheaper)

[neon leaf]

is what i do

[slender wagon]

Hmm

[frosty gale]

speaking of manual snapshots i forgot to do my weekly cheapskate backup

[slender wagon]

Thank you!

Can i have ur snapshots

[frosty gale]

tf

you NEVER ask for another persons snapshots

[slender wagon]

That was supposed to be rizz

[deft wolf]

Instead of asking for snapchat you are asking for snapchot?

[slender wagon]

I love waking up to these notifs but then i remember they take 6% cut

[slender wagon]

Yeah it was a snapchat joke lol

Really wish stripe was available for my country. Or anything close to it

[neon leaf]

does anyone else use the typescript native preview language server?

its been getting less and less stable for me

like how even

[frosty gale]

mine crashes all the time too

intellisense just randomly stops working

[neon leaf]

my friend has it using 40GB RAM+ constantly

for me it just crashes all the time

[pearl trail]

the table has turned it seems

[neon leaf]

https://github.com/microsoft/typescript-go/issues/2780

[frosty gale]

having your email publically listed on github does attract some weird aahh emails

[neon leaf]

atleast the effort is there

[deft wolf]

ps is wild

[slender wagon]

my email only attracts invoices

[robust garnet]

hi i have a question about discord bot owner identity verification

is this the right channel

okay it is i think

well my issue is that whenever i submit pics of my government id it shows this then goes back to normal. Should i wait or did it just not work

[stark kestrel]

https://dis.gd/support

[stark kestrel]

(also make sure your id is a supported document)

[robust garnet]

okay fair thank you

[stark kestrel]

https://docs.stripe.com/acceptable-verification-documents

[pearl trail]

ipv8 gonna be fire

cant wait to have 10.0.0.0.0.0.0.5/56

hope it can be truncated to 10::5/56

[frosty gale]

getting roasted on hackernews lmao https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47788857

EvanZhouDev

Internet Protocol Version 8 (IPv8)

Hacker News · Apr 16, 2026, 5:07 AM

who even thought of this

I'm working on my IPv9 proposal as we speak. It has an LLM validating the contents of every packet. Gotta stay ahead of the curve.

[pearl trail]

LMAO i haven’t read it yet

Every manageable element in an IPv8 network is authorised via OAuth2 JWT tokens served from a local cache. Every service a device requires is delivered in a single DHCP8 lease response
xDD

[neon leaf]

@delicate zephyr

[slender wagon]

they have updated the script to say "bro" now

it usually was just the 4 images

[mossy apex]

[slender wagon]

i see how they manage to afford all these bots... scamming each person out of 80 dollars

lmao

[mossy apex]

nah

can you make a money from that?

[slender wagon]

it's what scammers do... but don't get any ideas.

[mossy apex]

okay

[slender wagon]

what's that status man

[mossy apex]

?

[clever tundra]

When you give 80 it keeps asking for more, ntts made a video on it

[slender wagon]

thats crazy

this doesn't answer the hijacked accounts tho

im guessing these guys buy them and use them to promote their scam

[clever tundra]

hmm

i assumed it would be a like discord phising email thing or smth

when you sign up

[slender wagon]

i put a random email it didn't even check if it was legit

it just let me in

so im guessing they log that?

but that's not a reliable method

im pretty sure these guys use like cracked software to gain access to most of these accounts

[clever tundra]

in the typical one, the deposits go on for so long you end up losing roughly $4k

[clever tundra]

game cheats

typical hacks

[hazy tangle]

Heyooo

[clever tundra]

Hi

[copper bobcat]

Hello

How can I get a project creator rol

[neon leaf]

@delicate zephyr 1469209915145977888

[delicate zephyr]

@quiet lynx please dont advertise, thank you

[charred nest]

you get the role by having an approved project listed on the website

[copper bobcat]

Oh I just uploaded one of my bots on top.gg

Hoe long is it gonna take to take a look at it for the top.gg team

[charred nest]

if you just submitted it, its likely in queue, which is then reviewed by reviewers our timeline is 1-2 weeks, but it can take less or more time

[copper bobcat]

Oh yea my friend said it will take 2 to 3 months

[charred nest]

definitely not months just a few weeks !

[eternal osprey]

I have a pretty big crypto bot on telegram. Looking to make a discord bot for it as well. Are crypto-related risk analysis bots allowed? My bot has a free plan but a paid one as well where payments will go through discord (through crypto wallets). Is this allowed by topgg?

[stark kestrel]

since when does discord support crypto

for the topgg guidelines it's fine though, as long as not everything (or most of it) is behind the paywall

[slender wagon]

is it ok to implement javascript to make lighthouse score 100 artificially

[fierce orbit]

💀

[slender wagon]

i was wondering if it's allowed to accept crypto for payments on discord tho

[eternal osprey]

I use privy for solana wallet transactions.

I generate a private wallet per users, they can pay the amount to it and get access to the content

But the bot has a very big free section so i don’t think that is a problem

Unless discord prohibits this way of payment

[stark kestrel]

Discord wants you to use their monetization platform/offering

[deft wolf]

Unless you can't for some reason (like it's not available in your country for example)

[slender wagon]

That monetisation isn’t even available in my country

[stark kestrel]

Yeah, quite some countries it is now

[deft wolf]

But as soon as it is, then you have to migrate

[slender wagon]

Really?

Or what

[stark kestrel]

at least no new ones, but iirc whole EU, US and some others are

And once it's in your country, you have to use it as per ToS yeah

[slender wagon]

Wtf

Dont they take a huge cut

[deft wolf]

Indeed

[stark kestrel]

That's the whole point as to why they made it lmao

[deft wolf]

XD

[stark kestrel]

They saw how bots add paid offering

They made that feature

[slender wagon]

For legal reasons that’s a joke

[deft wolf]

Nah, you are fine here

[slender wagon]

I mean there has to be a way

[deft wolf]

Tim rules here

[slender wagon]

Like a loophole of buying credits

Instead of subscriptions

We need a lawyer here

[deft wolf]

Even if you find a loophole discord can just patch it and you are forced to use their monetisation method

[slender wagon]

Oh so you can keep both options and your already existing customers dont have to migrate

[stark kestrel]

Plus I'm pretty sure they looked for those with their lawyers before releasing it

[slender wagon]

But you have to match the pricing

Jason Citron the ceo of discord on action:

https://youtu.be/T4Upf_B9RLQ

[stark kestrel]

ex* CEO

[slender wagon]

I really wonder how discord would look like now if microslop purchased it in 2021

[eternal osprey]

Lol on to making a web platform instead

Not worth it if discord takes a huge cut

10k users and growing tho

[lament rock]

some sites probably already do because lord knows their shit be slow af

[frosty gale]

he's got the company into the IPO stage, got his 🤑 💰 💸 then dipped before discord goes to complete and entire shit

[craggy pine]

@knotty night

[spark flint]

@oak cliff

[prime cliff]

Oof https://x.com/theo/status/2045870216555499636

Theo - t3.gg (@theo)

Vercel got pwn’d. Here’s what I’ve managed to get from my sources:

1. Primary victim here is Vercel. Things like their Linear and GitHub got hit with majority of it
2. Env vars marked as sensitive are safe. Ones NOT marked as sensitive should be rolled out of precaution
3. The

X · Apr 19, 2026, 2:20 PM

[wet dove]

holy

[buoyant sleet]

Question: Do they let you know when they'r testing your bot? dont want to shut it down on them to add something while they are testing it

[lament rock]

No they don't. If you're worried about downtime for maintenance and they decline during the maintenance, you can DM the person who reviewed for a re-review as soon as they can. If you mean just general uptime, your bot should always be online except for maintenance. If it can't be, then that's a bit of a problem

[buoyant sleet]

Yeah just for making some changes. That'd be the luck I have. Take it down for a minute or two and thats when itd get reviewed lol

[lament rock]

What language do you use?

[buoyant sleet]

Python

[lament rock]

Python has ways to reload files at runtime

Dont ask me how though because idk those details. I think dpy has docs on reloadable cogs

[buoyant sleet]

I may look into it thanks

[neon leaf]

does anyone know why I keep getting Missing Permissions from the discord api when trying to time out a user? my bot has administrator perms for testing so shouldnt be because of that

    UnsuccessfulRequest(
        ErrorResponse {
            method: PATCH,
            status_code: 403,
            url: "https://discord.com/api/v10/guilds/1429911351777824892/members/745619551865012274",
            error: DiscordJsonError {
                code: JsonErrorCode(
                    50013,
                ),
                message: "Missing Permissions",
                errors: [],
            },
        },
    ),

[stoic bough]

Discord has a thing that enforces how a bot moderates based on role hierarchy. A bot can not moderate a user whos highest role is equal or higher than the bots highest role

Regardless of if it has admin perms or not

[neon leaf]

yeah, I moved the bots role to the very top and tried moderating on a user without any roles

[stoic bough]

Did that work?

[neon leaf]

nope

[stoic bough]

What're you setting the communicationDisabledUntil field

It caps at 28 days max

[neon leaf]

current unix time + 60 seconds

[stoic bough]

So if you go higher than that it'll throw a 50013

Hmmm

[neon leaf]

yes that is me too

[stoic bough]

The bot isn't trying to time itself out by any chance is it

[neon leaf]

i may be stupid

you are almost correct

yeah, it works now, oops

It timed out me instead of the other user

[stoic bough]

Well

I can see why that would fail

[neon leaf]

its getting ridiculous @frosty gale

[bleak nimbus]

Anyone know good premium features i could add to Echo? It can already do what other bots make you pay for for free, like... Mee6 making you pay for a greeting message is actually insane but thats besides the point. I currently have it to allow conditional statements and API requests, but I feel like theres just... More I could do

[neon leaf]

@delicate zephyr 1416411772574765141

dam

[pearl trail]

do you expect explanation or uuid from it?

[neon leaf]

this is the full chat

"7dbbbb63-1734-48c4-a1de-d1a65f62cada
turn this uuidv4 into a reserved uuid"

[pearl trail]

oow

[neon leaf]

got it too or did it work for you?

[pearl trail]

https://g.co/gemini/share/8dc70d586efe

got it too

maybe false detection?

i use thinking, not pro not fast

[neon leaf]

hm, I use Pro

[pearl trail]

damn

[neon leaf]

but your share link works for me

[pearl trail]

xD

[neon leaf]

well no clue

[frosty gale]

the word spam is probably tipping it over the edge

i think they also do an LLM run before answering your question which determines whether your request is "appropriate" or not

safety filter not flagging bullshit tier list
claude > deepseek > chatgpt > gemini

at least gemini gives you a predetermined message when it refuses something, chatgpt just generates a condescending response that has a superpower of pissing anyone off

[modest ore]

@steel oxide what

Your bot promotes or operates a service that competes with top.gg on your bot page.

[steel oxide]

#staff-tickets if you want to talk about that please, thanks!

[eternal osprey]

hey guys

i need a small dataset of like 100 samples of regular checkout js code?

Something like:
extract credit card ddata or whatever, then send it over the network.

Does anyone know any sources to get this from?

[stark kestrel]

https://x.com/i/status/2046295065388363828

Zack Korman (@ZackKorman)

Lovable right now

X · Apr 20, 2026, 6:28 PM

[deft wolf]

https://tenor.com/br7HH.gif

[wheat mesa]

might be worth generating with an LLM

might not be guaranteed to be correct but I feel like the most capable models could get you something functional

[eternal osprey]

LLM doesn't want to

chatgpt, gemini

[wheat mesa]

wdym

[eternal osprey]

they're telling me they can't extract credit card info and that's against the rules nad bla bla

[wheat mesa]

What are you prompting them with

[eternal osprey]

that i need to generat ebenign scripts that retrieve credit card info from the dom, for machine learning pruposes.

tbf i alreayd hae like 2k benign scripts, i could take 200 from them and insert random payment retrieval keywords lol.

[pearl saffron]

You can't really depend on chatgpt or Gemini tbh but there is a way to have it help you make what your trying to make you have to word it a different way

[neon flicker]

Is bot development actually still an active field?

[deft wolf]

People still make bots, yes

[lyric mountain]

Bot dev will exist as long as discord does

[deft wolf]

Unless they decide to hide the API behind a paywall

[stark kestrel]

cough Spotify cough

cough Twitter cough

[pearl trail]

i wonder what are behind them to make it so big

does it log all the errors since 2023

[slender wagon]

That would just get rid of garbage bots
|| def not ragebait ||

[slender wagon]

lol

[small tangle]

2023 BCE

[stark kestrel]

https://x.com/i/status/2046627207926178296

Proton (@ProtonPrivacy)

On April 15, Ursula von der Leyen declared the EU's new age verification app "technically ready" and built to "the highest privacy standards."

On April 16, a security researcher bypassed it in under two minutes.

X · Apr 21, 2026, 4:28 PM

🤣

[deft wolf]

Classic

[lament rock]

Its all vibe coded probably

Clearly they know what they are doing

[deft wolf]

I googled her name and she's 67 years old

I thought it's a good fun fact

[hard zenith]

Made a personal bot to provide me hosted image links

[swift barn]

[crisp trout]

god It's been ages since I've visited back here xd

[neon leaf]

@knotty night 783293506117828618

[slender wagon]

They changed check to ch3ck in my server

[neon leaf]

@knotty night 706168035509141504

im always sending the user id because I think some have started deleting their msgs if anyone replies

[knotty night]

Luke got em

[deft wolf]

bro

[pine willow]

🙏

Why did discord start 8 shards for my discord bot with 750 servers

[sharp geyser]

Cause yo uasked for it

[lament rock]

Fun fact. Discord has an "auto" shard feature

[sharp geyser]

I know

[proud sky]

My bot has 64 guilds, I'm wondering how many shards discord will create for mine

[deft wolf]

1?

[neon leaf]

-1?

[pine willow]

Its set to auto???

[pine willow]

None if you don't use sharding

[proud sky]

Good point 💀

[scenic adder]

I have 2 shards personally

But i only have my app in 30 some servers but I'd assume some are slightly larger

Cuz it shows my app is profiling over 3k people for leveling rn

🥹

[warm surge]

personally you don’t need 2 shards for 30 servers

you need only 1

[stoic bough]

are you hosting your bot anywhere on a platform or something?

[pine willow]

At my hosting service, yes

[stoic bough]

are shards env vard by pterodactyl themselves?

thats pretty typical for a lot of hosting services

[pine willow]

Nah

[pine willow]

Well mine ain't like that

Lol

[stoic bough]

well whatever the case, discord would only give you 1 shard for 750 servers on auto. so something on your end is giving you 8 shards.

[scenic adder]

Ik

Lol

Its there though

Ig

[pine willow]

fixed it

[quartz kindle]

1 shard per server = best configuration :^)

[pine willow]

it was indeed a wrong config file

[pine willow]

if you got the ram

why not

lol

no one is stopping you

https://imgur.com/jnQu1ow

[quartz kindle]

ram is not really an issue, the nuber of connections is, it will bork your entire network stack xD

plus most systems have a limit on concurent tcp connections

[pine willow]

you can just increase that no?

[quartz kindle]

yeah depending on the config, its manageable

Because every WebSocket connection is treated as an open file by the system, you will hit these OS-level caps first:

Per-Process File Limit (ulimit -n): The most common bottleneck. By default, most Linux distributions limit a single process (like your web server) to 1,024 open files. This means your server can typically only handle ~1,000 concurrent WebSockets out of the box.

System-Wide File Limit (fs.file-max): This is the total number of files all processes combined can open. On modern systems, this is dynamically calculated based on your RAM—often around 10% of available memory (roughly 1k per file).

Local Port Range: If your server is making outbound connections, it is limited by the ephemeral port range (default is often 32,768 to 60,999), providing roughly 28,232 available ports.

[stoic bough]

And Discord simply won't let you have 1 shard per server. It's not rally a RAM or TCP issue. Discord's identify rate limit is like 1 per 5 seconds so 750 shards would take an hour to start. And you get 1000 identifies in total a day so restarting twice would lock you out

[lament rock]

If someone is smart then they'd just resume their session after a restart

[modest pine]

@knotty night can you tell me how to make a bot dashboard please

[stark kestrel]

🤣

[knotty night]

No

[neon leaf]

step 1. do not ping staff for asking how to make a dashboard
step 2. repeat step 1

[knotty night]

Don’t use that language you can ask but I am not teaching you unfortunately

[stark kestrel]

Lots of times you can resume though

No need to re-identify

So you'd only re-identify really broken shards

[stark kestrel]

Discord doesn't have an "auto" mode, it's Discord giving you a number of recommended shards and the library you use names that "auto" as it's based on the recommendation of Discord

Still interesting that it recommend that many

[lament rock]

Nobody is raw dogging the api. Libs abstract away from recommendation to connect as you need to call /gateway/bot either way

[stark kestrel]

Saying discord has an auto mode is wrong

It simply doesn't have that

It's also not Discord starting the shards, it's you

[neon leaf]

can I make discord start my car

[deft wolf]

Probably

[stark kestrel]

very likely

[neon leaf]

good to know

[lament rock]

Correct that it's a recommendation, but I disagree on your semantics of not calling it an auto mode

[stark kestrel]

It's an auto mode for the API wrapper

It's not a Discord (API) auto mode

It's a Discord recommendation, the API wrapper abstracts it and calls it auto mode as you don't need to pass in the number yourself

A better name would be a recommended mode

Though they call it "auto" very likely because the logic behind sharding is not needed to be made by yourself

[frosty gale]

jarvis, discord auto mode on

[stark kestrel]

So Discord definitely has no auto mode regarding sharding

[stoic bough]

I auto shard when I drink milk

Sharding all over the place

[stark kestrel]

iirc the docs also mention that sharding decisions is entirely on the client to decide

[neon leaf]

doesnt it force you at a point?

[stark kestrel]

they just force you for 2500 (per shard)

but you can also have one shard per guild

completely pointless, but it's the client's choice

[lament rock]

Im not really tryna argue this right after waking up, but I write my own Discord api wrappers and I'll call it what I want and you can call it whatever you want :)

[stark kestrel]

Sure, as said API wrappers have a so-called auto mode. Just don't say discord itself has an auto sharded mode, it factually doesn't

That would be just giving wrong information ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lament rock]

Lord

[stark kestrel]

or just give it out

[modest pine]

Who here uses BDFD?

[stark kestrel]

na

[modest pine]

You don’t?

[deft wolf]

We don't

[stark kestrel]

yes

[modest pine]

So you do?

[stark kestrel]

na

[frosty gale]

isnt there sort of an "auto" shard mode? discord api returns a recommended amount of shards here

unless i misunderstood the discussion

[stark kestrel]

As said, it's a recommendation of number of shards

Not an auto mode or whatever

Libraries call their class or whatever with auto as it handles the sharding for you

And uses by default the recommend number of shards

Discord has no auto mode, Discord just recommends you a nunber of shards and doesn't care what you do with it

They enforce max 2500 guild/shard

The sharding itself still needs to be solved by the API wrapper

API wrappers tend to have a so-called "auto" (or managed) mode that creates the number of recommended shards and handles the connection - Discord has no so-called "auto" mode; it merely wants you to shards at 2500 guilds/shard max

[neon leaf]

I really hate how rust did cross-os compat

I wish there was just a proper unified way of doing most os-specific things that just return Results instead of needing fucking traits

[frosty gale]

I really hate how rust did cross-os compat

[neon leaf]

this has to be ragebait

[stark kestrel]

W

[frosty gale]

me and my homies hate dynamic lookups

[neon leaf]

cannot live without them so will withold my comment on that

atp my vtable may be bigger than actual code

[frosty gale]

tbh they are an amazing abstraction for non performance critical code like http

[neon leaf]

well yes id never use them in stuff that barely does syscalls

[frosty gale]

or places where the alternative is a bunch of if else branches

[neon leaf]

otherwise it doesnt matter much

[frosty gale]

a lot of them become zero cost anyways assuming they are predictable

only poopoo thing is that they cannot be inlined :(

[neon leaf]

🔥

  45.5%  34.7Mi  45.3%  34.7Mi    .text
  44.5%  34.0Mi  44.3%  34.0Mi    .rodata
   3.4%  2.61Mi   3.4%  2.61Mi    .eh_frame
   2.2%  1.69Mi   2.2%  1.69Mi    .rela.dyn
   2.1%  1.60Mi   2.1%  1.60Mi    .gcc_except_table
   1.7%  1.27Mi   1.7%  1.27Mi    .data.rel.ro
   0.5%   421Ki   0.5%   421Ki    .eh_frame_hdr

[eternal osprey]

i have created a process on port 3000 on my vps. It's completely locked down, only my personal ip is allowed to enter it.

i have used cloudflare tunnels to expose the port 3000 for post only requests.

Although, now i am a bit scared about that cloudflare tells me that my configuration is insecure regarding tls encryption. I have setup a tunnel, so why would i need to encrypt my vps? I have just pointed the cloudflared tunnel to http://localhost:3000 tbf.

should i change it by adding tls encrption? If so, how would i ever go on with that.. never did this on a vps.

[deep oasis]

yargh

[stoic bough]

Technically, cloudflare's warning is correct in a sense. but the risk is minimal. The traffic never actually leaves the VPS's network stack. The only way an attacker could intercept that is if they have root access to the VPS already, and by then they have bigger things to snoop around in

[eternal osprey]

i see, but the data between post requests -> cloudflared is encrypted though?

And then cloudflared just forwards it through the tunnel over http.

[stoic bough]

yeah the only unencrypted portion that cloudflare is warning about is a memory-to-memory copy on your own machine.

cloudflare cant tell from its side whether your origin is loopback, same, or across the internet so it just warns all unecrypted origins by default

[eternal osprey]

ah honestly no need to enable tls there.. thanks for helping me understand everything better!

[eternal osprey]

i see i see!

[stoic bough]

If you do want to get rid of the warning anyway you can do something like a self-signed cert. have your app serve HTTPS locally with it, point the tunnel to 3000 and toggle No TLS Verify on the tunnel's config

you can serve it on any port. ports are labels realistically. HTTPS just uses 443 by default because that's what browsers default to when you go to an https url

[eternal osprey]

yeah i figured dumb question

hahaha thanks!

[stoic bough]

No worries! :> Happy to help.

I've been learning more about cloudflare myself here in the last few months

so imparting knowledge is always a must

[eternal osprey]

that's awesome, i love cloudflare so much. Been using it for all of my sites

but honestly, first time deploying it on a vps

[prime cliff]

I don't really like using self signed certs because they have to be frequently renewed

[eternal osprey]

trying to setup a post-only webhook, so figured that cloudflare tunnels would be the best. Used to handle it with ngrok, but i paid 26$ a month..

[stoic bough]

I did see you mentioned you whitelisted your own IP to your vps. as the only access. If your IP is dynamic you might lose admin access to your VPS when it rotates

you can use a Cloudflare Access policy over SSH. I use it myself

I think it's more reliable and durable than a baked in firewall ip list

[eternal osprey]

i always have access to the vps through novcn.

[stoic bough]

oh

nevermind then

cloudflare access policies are still neat tho

[eternal osprey]

I did indeed get locked out, especially as my vps requires 2fa each time you use sudo or login. Actually, it requires you to:

• enter your password
• have a ssh key
• enter 2fa

[stoic bough]

thats quite a layer

[eternal osprey]

yeah i heard people talk about them but figured to pass due to time constraints haha

[eternal osprey]

yeah facts maybe overkill but trying to secure my vps the best i can.

[stoic bough]

mines no root access, ssh key only with cloudflare access policy

[eternal osprey]

very nice! Maybe i will have a look into access policies.

[stoic bough]

oh that reminds me

I need to set up an SSH key on my windows computer

[eternal osprey]

i know this is controversial, but i installed a few tools as well and have them log bi-weekly:
aide, clamav, chrootkit, custom yara rules, lynis.

idk the recent news of hacks really put me on edge.

that axios shit was brutal

[stoic bough]

I seen that one about the xz hack

[eternal osprey]

xz?

xinferrence?

[stoic bough]

lossless data compression tools

[eternal osprey]

oh shit

another package hacked?

can we go back to sticks and stones please

[stoic bough]

well, the long story short of it

[eternal osprey]

I saw you type a novel

delete it

and rewrite it again

[stoic bough]

yeah it was a long story

[eternal osprey]

https://giphy.com/gifs/mbG6891BV7QMo

you got me trembling like this for over 10m

[stoic bough]

so basically someone spent 2 years building trust as a maintainer of the xz utils library which is a compression library used basically everywhere on Linux. Then, they slipped a backdoor into the release tarballs that would silently overtake sshd on affected systems. It was caught days before it would've hit stable Debian and Ubuntu releases.

It almost ended up millions of production servers

[eternal osprey]

lmaoo hahahhaha

that's so funny

man i hate hackers

[stoic bough]

and it was caught by accident too

some microsoft engineer was working on Postgres completely unrelated to security and noticed his SSH logins were taking some odd 500ms longer than normal and using noticeable CPU. he was doing benchmarks on something else and the differences in variation annoyed him

[safe rapids]

yo, im new here. building & in queue for review. I was wondering what are some of the must have server owner controls for a bot who is available to anyone to @ by default. so server owner, admin, managechannels+ to control things like allowed channels, etc? I hadn't done as much in this department yet so figured I'd ask here 🙂

[scenic adder]

Hey there! Welcome to the dev community. Since you're building a bot that's open to mention by default, you'll definitely want to give owners the following controls.

• Channel Whitelisting/Blacklisting
• Permission Overrides
• Toggleable Mentions
• Ignored Role
• Rate Limiting per user/ per channel.

Once you get these covered you will have a much easier time getting through review. Good luck!!

😄

Ensure that your bot uses the permissions it needs and does not include the administrator permission.

[safe rapids]

thanks great starting point, yeah no admin.

[scenic adder]

👍

[prime cliff]

@safe rapids the most reasonable option would be to atleast block everyone or role mentions unless said user has mention everyone permissions, things like ratelimits and per-channel are more quality of life which shouldn't effect bot approval

[safe rapids]

thanks, ill def do per channel, going to explore most of the others (less so rate limits as ive got some internal guards similar to RL), but more granularity in these areas for sure.

[stark kestrel]

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/typescript/announcing-typescript-7-0-beta/

We got TypeScript in Go

Was waiting for that one

[queen needle]

hell yeah

[pearl trail]

hell yeah

[sharp geyser]

Having a little fun making plugins in C# for Rust, making an economy plugin :p

Unity UI kinda yucky to work with programatically tbh

[deft wolf]

Holy scammers

[frosty gale]

see this is the problem with society

everyone assumes the worst in people

he could simply be a humble travelling guide

looking to forward the betterment of society on his own expense

[pallid umbra]

Hi, gm/ga/ge ☕

Does anyone know how I can make the ‘inline code’ text within embeds have a grayish-blue background instead of charcoal black?

[stark kestrel]

https://x.com/i/status/2047284647202009378

beware

mpgn (@mpgn_x64)

Looks like the npm package bitwarden cli was compromised, you can see version 2026.4.0 was not published from a trusted publisher (green checkmark) 😬

https://t.co/UEI42DAtK9

X · Apr 23, 2026, 12:01 PM

[stark kestrel]

can't

[bleak nimbus]

Yall think this database editor looks a bit too chaotic? I swear it looks better on desktop but for a mobile view, cant really tell. (Desktop site version and regular mobile version)

Damn that 2nd image is awful, jesus

My fault

[deft wolf]

What percentage of this is vibecoded?

[pine willow]

all of it

the frontend looks like it is 100% vibecoded

[lyric mountain]

why is

the text

-# varying

so much

in size?

[bleak nimbus]

Uhmmm

Fair point

Looks better on pc

[lyric mountain]

honestly make the smallest text almost 5 times as big on mobile

so u dont need to zoom in to read

[bleak nimbus]

The left is just using the website version on mobile

The right is the actual size but I kinda did the scroll thing for screenshots

[lyric mountain]

oh goodness I hadnt clicked it yet lmao

[bleak nimbus]

So it looks long as hell

Yeah

The right will actually look like uh

One sec

Like that

[lyric mountain]

looks better yeah, tho u could shave some padding to gain extra space

[deft wolf]

The fact that topbar is detached is annoying me

[lyric mountain]

especially for db tools u rlly want to be compact yet not cramped

[bleak nimbus]

If you understood how much scrolling there is, you'd understand

Especially in the docs

[lyric mountain]

I think nynu means the big floating menu

it uh, feels ominous

[bleak nimbus]

Yeah. There's a lot of scrolling and I'd hate to have to scroll to the top everytime I wanna switch tabs. It's a lot, I'm not really a designer tho

I just did what I could fr

[languid mica]

they mean this

[bleak nimbus]

But when I remake the website, it'll look 10x better

[deft wolf]

It's not centered either

[lyric mountain]

squash it a bit and attach to the top

you'd gain a lot of vertical space

[bleak nimbus]

Oh you just mean the gap

I see

[lyric mountain]

to make it follow the scrolling, make it position: fixed

[bleak nimbus]

Hell yeah, I appreciate it

[frosty gale]

not another one

FUCK

[bleak nimbus]

Better?

[lyric mountain]

looks better yeah, but is that bottom padding on the menu necessary?

[bleak nimbus]

Could shorten that more

hold on

[safe rapids]

new bot im working on, custom agentic ai harness inside a bot - told it to make a little hangman game, host protocol instructions, and files to manage player records and it created and let me play right then. art is a bit rough lol but an interesting proof of concept. basically in that channel any user can now @ bot /hangman to spin up the game from an agent skill/memory with instructions on the tools it build to host it.

[lyric mountain]

yeah much better

(tho it doesnt need a menu in the landing page )

[bleak nimbus]

It's throughout all pages considering... It's the directory

Kinda need the menu to travel through all the others

[bleak nimbus]

Okay I just completely rewrote the whole thing since it was bothering me

Obviously on a subdomain and not actually published yet because im tweakin out on making it work on PC

[stark kestrel]

Sounds heavy

Scrolling on mobile is slow compared to the older one

[bleak nimbus]

what

[stark kestrel]

yup

[bleak nimbus]

no like

what

idk what youre talking ab

[stark kestrel]

your website lmao

your new one

[bleak nimbus]

Its not published

[stark kestrel]

it is

[bleak nimbus]

Well technically it is but it's under a subdomain, not echo3.gg

That's the old one

[stark kestrel]

yeah, as said

the old one is smoother when scrolling

[bleak nimbus]

So how are you using the new one if the subdomain was never said

[stark kestrel]

to see the changes

[bleak nimbus]

But... I never said the subdomain nor is it shown

So you cant test the new one if you don't even know what it is

[stark kestrel]

and..? not allowed to be interested?

it's not like subomains are private

[bleak nimbus]

Not saying they are but you commented that 3 minutes after I posted the photos with no clue of what the url is

[stark kestrel]

certificate transparency logs exist

once you issue a certificate for e.g. a subdomain, it's on a public listing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certificate_Transparency

so the staging subdomain was on that public listing

but sure, I won't give feedback on new websites again, thankiies

[bleak nimbus]

Naw I just find it weird that you're like, stalking my website to test it and saying it's slower than the old one when in fact it's the opposite after numerous times of me testing it myself

Like that's weird man

Idk

[stark kestrel]

sure as said, won't give feedback anymore

[deft wolf]

Poor Krypton

[eternal osprey]

This is such a crazy thing to say lmao

You published a site to the public. Subdomains are not private. Deal with it.

Want to have it private? Lock access to the subdomain.

Furthermore you come here asking for feedback, expect more feedback than you initially asked for.

Krypton is a nice guy dont do him like that

[frosty gale]

bro went forensics on bros domain 😭

[pine willow]

Don't share your website or your project if you can't handle feedback

[bleak nimbus]

Feedback is one thing, but going out of their way to find a website I have not publicly announced anywhere at all for testing to begin with on a site that isnt even remotely close to being done and saying "its slower than the old one" when not even that much is true either is not how you give feedback

If anything thats straight up weird lmao

[bleak nimbus]

Yeah. Feedback on a screenshot. Not for the dude to go finding subdomains i never even announced to anyone on an unfinished website

The fact yall tryna defend that makes you weird too

[pine willow]

You showed the url

You made it Public

[bleak nimbus]

The url points to my PUBLISHED site. He went to one that WASNT posted

If you actually read you'd know that

[pine willow]

I mean Subdomains are Public Info..

Just test on local webservers

Then you don't have the problem

[bleak nimbus]

Again, stalking my website to find one I never posted to test and give "feedback" on (which wasnt even done, and he went through a whole lookup in 3 minutes to find it?)

Thats straight up weird

And by no means do I even know a lot about websites to begin with. I dont know all this fancy stuff, I just know HTML and TypeScript. Just figuring out how to use CertBot took me an eternity

[stark kestrel]

just move on, i already apologized. the weird person will make sure to not talk again.

[bleak nimbus]

I moved on. Didnt expect to wake up to 2 pings tho

Not only that, I'm not saying YOU are weird, I just think what you did was a little weird. I get you had good intentions to provide feedback but if I wanted someone to find the development website to test for feedback, I wouldve said that. I sent screenshots for that reason. Regardless, like I said, I get you had good intentions

[neon leaf]

please 🙏

[frosty gale]

blud is ragebaiting at this point 😭 🙏

y'all need to get ragebait trained this is discord

[bleak nimbus]

Who's ragebaiting?

[neon leaf]

everyone

[bleak nimbus]

Interesting

[neon leaf]

you, me, chloe, sky, the entirety of discord is a giant ragebait

[bleak nimbus]

Thats valid

[deft wolf]

https://tenor.com/o4pGB29jS42.gif

[frosty gale]

ive become a bit of a ragebait expert

tiktok folks i especially found the easiest to ragebait

[neon leaf]

ur not wrong

i hate opening comments

[slender wagon]

i make apps stupid proof cuz im stupid

[neon leaf]

???

why does gemini have 2 loaders now

[lyric mountain]

I think they were supposed to be stacked on top of eachother maybe

[scenic adder]

The top one is a visual glitch

I use gemini pro and notice it a lot

Lol

[eternal osprey]

I will keep scanning your site for all of the public domain recorfs

[eternal osprey]

Lmao

He is 100% ragebaiting

The fact i fell for it i feel like a loser

[bleak nimbus]

Nobody ragebaiting tho

[deft wolf]

It has to be a ragebait

[bleak nimbus]

No ragebait here

[pine willow]

https://tenor.com/view/is-this-ragebait-ragebait-isthisragebair-gif-11742088613823098929

[crystal wigeon]

hey hey long time bois

hows everyone

hows the AI job taking over treating you

[slender wagon]

Hi

[neon leaf]

clickhouse is truly magic

[vivid fulcrum]

that isn't happening anywhere, for now 😁
what is happening is companies firing people "in the name of AI" and then rehiring at a lower salary

[deft wolf]

For sure!

Holy, I was too slow

[slender wagon]

What’s the best usecase for clickhouse

[slender wagon]

Latest video of NTTS made it to my feed.
How is his main still in discord?
He is literally running exploits for views

[neon leaf]

analytics

[deft wolf]

If Discord decided to ban him he would create a new account and make a video claiming that Discord is trying to silence him or something. Not really worth

[neon leaf]

@frosty gale this has to be ragebait

[frosty gale]

did you ask it why? i found gemini does tell you eventually

[neon leaf]

asked it to redo the response with "safe terminology" and it worked

[frosty gale]

😵‍💫

i hope youre not paying for this

[neon leaf]

no its just the stuff included in my google one sub

I usually use claude

though the answer is now horrible

[stoic bough]

I only use Gemini for deep research

[lament rock]

host your own gemma 4 instance tbh

[prime cliff]

Alt accounts monkas

[finite lake]

Can someone build me a bot

[grave peak]

they must've set the safety filter to high because rarely do I encounter a safety block via api. the safety filter has 4 configurable levels I think

[buoyant sleet]

what is the best way to mange payments for a discord bot?

[pearl trail]

why your ai loves to not answer due to security reasons 😭

did you have anything weird in the memory

[slender wagon]

Almost an entire month has passed discord has yet to respond to my intent request

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-wth-confused-gif-12539686

[lament rock]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-team-fortress2-team-fortress-heavy-heavy-tf2-gif-24947362

Time to walk up to Discord HQ like

[slender wagon]

Its so annoying

Its holding back features of mine which hold back other features

I dont wanna ship out a half assed version

[lament rock]

What even are you developing out?

[slender wagon]

I need the server members intent for 2-3 new features

Which are very important on people actually keeping the bot

And verification rates with ping on join

Maybe they dont like me cuz my region doesn’t support their 30% cut on all profits

[deft wolf]

From what people wrote on ddevs waiting over a month is the norm right now

[slender wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-gulp-nervous-glup-nervous-cat-cat-nervous-cat-gulp-gif-17492267992575590303

I was banned from that server in 2019-2020

For having my bot on my bio

does anyone know if they have like some way of appealing

or am i not missing out on anything

[deft wolf]

They do, but you have to send it through support portal

[slender wagon]

how long will that take 3-5 years?

[deft wolf]

I have no idea, I was never banned there nor I know someone who sent the appeal

[neon flicker]

Is there still the requirement of having the bot in 75 servers before getting it verified?

[thorn mica]

you mean verified on discord or in topgg?

i mean doesnt matter, mine got verified on both and its in like 10 servers only lol

[lament rock]

The 75 server number is how many servers Discord waits before sending you a System message from the @urban karma (643945264868098049) account. If your bot is using a privileged intent like MESSAGE_CONTENT, GUILD_MEMBERS, etc then you must get your app verified otherwise your app will be stuck once it reaches 100 guilds and cannot be added further

(if it says unknown-user just trust me it's real. You can even API fetch it or ban it from your Discord servers)

[lime vigil]

hmm

[pine willow]

Indeed

[remote halo]

My bot is growing faster than I thought. Due to this, I need a way to apply early to the Discord intent permissions. Is this possible?

[lament rock]

Not afaik. You need to hit 75 servers for it to unlock

[remote halo]

That reallyyyyy sucks... Because doesn't the application take like over a month at current rates??

Is there anything against ToS that lets me spin up multiple shards of my own to overcome this limit temporarily and then migrate people to our main bot once intent application has gone through?

[lament rock]

If you mean under the same bot token, that wont work. Under different ones, that could work, but honestly too much work. The applications are only necessary if you use any privileged intents that need approval like MESSAGE_CONTENT, etc. If your bot doesn't use any of those, verification is practically instant now

[remote halo]

I have a whitelabel system setup that lets us just provide a bot token, then it deploys automatically on our infrastructure, all synced through our centralised gateway; So spinning up extra bots is no headache for us.

Unfortunately, we do need intents to work properly (at least for some features)... Guess I'll just bite the bullet when it comes to it

[lament rock]

I'm scared to ask if you use rabbitmq

[remote halo]

No clue what that even is, so no

Everything we've built is all self-made

[prime cliff]

Sharding is for bots at 2000-2500 servers what are you on about

Also you can individually spin up shards based on a guilds id

[remote halo]

We have our own system built in from the off-set for this

[frosty gale]

@neon leaf i got bored at work so i downloaded an atera installer exe from their site and put it into virus total for shits and giggles and now their sandbox keeps trying to run the exe and its sending the entire team an OTP email for the install to commence lmao

one of them got in touch with atera and they say their logs dont say who it was so im just going to quietly forget this ever happened

[neon leaf]

lmao

[neon flicker]

Why has Discord made it kind of free to have our bots verified?

[deft wolf]

Why not?

Verification doesn't mean anything anyways

[neon flicker]

Like as far as I remember, it required a minimum of 75 servers and a detailed explanation of the intents

[neon flicker]

Honestly that's what I've asked myself for long as well, they finally seem to have that fixed

[deft wolf]

It still does if you enable intents

[neon flicker]

Oh, so has the verification phase already been like this?

So the intent and bot verification are different phases of verification

[deft wolf]

Indeed, verification is automatic and instant when intents requests are manually checked by discord support

[neon flicker]

But has it always worked in this way?

[deft wolf]

No, back in the days verification was also manually

[neon flicker]

Was it actually when it meant something to have our bots verified?

Like it feels very pointless now

[deft wolf]

It was always pointless because check mark on discord doesn't mean the bot is safe

[neon flicker]

Yup, that's honestly very fair

But there seems to be a significantly less amount of active developers on Discord especially now that Glitch isn't a free host

Honestly those who only used Glitch weren't really developers

[deft wolf]

I don't think it's because glitch, it's because discord removed the active developer badge so there is no point of being "developer" for most people

[neon flicker]

Honestly yes, I do think they should bring back some sort of a badge in order to make bot development more doable for most of the people

Because bot development has always been a massive industry on Discord for long

But obviously, it should be a less-abusable method as most of the people just used a few slash commands to make their profiles eligible of claiming the badge instead of actually developing a bot

[lament rock]

There are certain things with verified bots like not being able to change the name when an attacker gains access to the token to do things like impersonation

[prime cliff]

Technical not free since you have to pay for hosting :p and putting in effort to actually create/maintain your bot, submitting id for verification and other stuff xD

And platforms are better with an open dev scene and api helps Discord too (free advertisement to use discord)

[frosty gale]

its always free if you host it on someone else's server without telling them

https://giphy.com/gifs/troll-face-trollge-UY3tY8CCGuRnHH6H69

[neon flicker]

Is this an investment recommendation?

[deft wolf]

Real botnet right here

[neon flicker]

Yup I will take it seriously

It looks like such a valid way to keep the payment off myself

[prime cliff]

Ok go spend your money on doge coin /s

[neon flicker]

Oh my God another genius

[knotty night]

or auctions.top.gg

hit it up

[neon flicker]

LOL

How long do bot verifications take on Top.gg in the present day?

[knotty night]

1-2 weeks