development

[crisp trout]

if you don't have friends/family who are interested in helping.

gotta dip for a while, working.

[sharp geyser]

Yuh, I hopefully have some people ahah

Audit log page

Still needs some work but it works for now

[pearl trail]

this seems new

[sharp geyser]

I haven’t really paid attention

[crisp trout]

ah we are bringing back the npm security discussion?

xd

[sharp geyser]

How's this lookin chat

I'm trying to make it as transparent as possible

Like I don't want a seller to wonder "Hey, it says 693.xx why am I only getting 600"

[humble gyro]

clean but why so many boxes

[sharp geyser]

Honestly thought it would look better that way but do you think I should make it one card?

[humble gyro]

remove all boxed elements except for payment breakdown

it'll look better trust

[sharp geyser]

So combine the "Buyer" and "Item "?

lemme give it a shot

[humble gyro]

yea

probably keep the padding

[crisp trout]

veld's right

btw as someone who's been in shit industries @sharp geyser , make sure to protect yourself so your platform isn't liable.

[sharp geyser]

This is what i came up with

[sharp geyser]

Ima be so real

this is where I am struggling

Making a TOS, Privacy Policies, and all the other policies related to financial means

I have 0 clue on what's good / good enough

[crisp trout]

where are you based?

[sharp geyser]

United States

[crisp trout]

imo either a company or DBA so you can protect YOURSELF

but maybe there are some experienced people who've done more

[sharp geyser]

Well I am already incorprating as an LLC

[crisp trout]

hm

[sharp geyser]

I'd have some protection

My private assets aren't tied to the company

[crisp trout]

yeah

then LLC is the go to

as it's a seprarate legal entity

[sharp geyser]

Yeah

[crisp trout]

BUT

if you have no income and risk is low

dba

[sharp geyser]

I jsut need to come up with TOS, Privacy Policy, Refund Policy and any other policy that's required to basically at least "cover" my ass

[crisp trout]

is 99.99% the right answer

you know what's that called?hiring a lawyer

[sharp geyser]

Yeahhhh

That's what I fear hiring a lawyer

[wheat mesa]

LLC is good

[sharp geyser]

I don't wanna get screwed in fees and shit 💀

[wheat mesa]

It's basically a sole proprietorship but with protections for personal assets

[crisp trout]

I mean that's the risk of creating something

[wheat mesa]

It is good as a one-person company

[sharp geyser]

Yeah

I am forming an LLC under Mercatus LLC or Mercatus GG LLC whichever one the state accepts

Hopefully its the first one 💀

[crisp trout]

wasn't there a website

or rather a company that do everything for you?

you pay a small fee

[sharp geyser]

Yeah

I mgoing through Northwest

https://www.northwestregisteredagent.com/

[crisp trout]

can't you check for name before registering 😄 ?

[sharp geyser]

Yeah

but US gov is annoying asf

[crisp trout]

Yeah fair enough

[sharp geyser]

and I would not put it past them to deny it solely because they want too

[crisp trout]

I usually do DBA because I'm used to it

but that's because different reasons

[sharp geyser]

I went LLC

I am also funding this project out of pocket

sooo

No seed funding yet

[crisp trout]

as I said for you probbly smarter

[sharp geyser]

I jsut need to find out where I can hire a lawyer to help me with this shit cause I don't want to leave myself areas to be screwed.

Especially when dealing with money 💀

and user data

[sharp edge]

how long does it take to review and make the bot public on there site?

[sharp geyser]

Dang I thought I could use the tags command oh well

Me get experienced role when /j

[frosty gale]

i think you either have to no life this server or when the mods feel like giving you it

[sharp geyser]

yeah I dont have hte time to no life this server anymore

I'm a busy busy man

[neon leaf]

https://github.com/openssh/openssh-portable/blob/master/PROTOCOL#L643

actually a horrible spec

spent 30min until i actually understood wtf its sending and wtf it wants

these descriptions really aint it

[humble gyro]

no remove the box completely from everything but the payment breakdown

[sharp geyser]

gotcha will check in a moment!

[slender wagon]

AI has made programming boring

[sharp geyser]

Yeah

I see what you mean

[humble gyro]

keep the padding

[sharp geyser]

Definitely looks a lot better

[humble gyro]

horizontal padding

[sharp geyser]

on the very top one?

[humble gyro]

your list is no longer aligned

[sharp geyser]

Wait

[sharp geyser]

Like this?

[humble gyro]

header too

but yes its getting there

[sharp geyser]

alr yeah this looks better

I think the massive Confirm Handoff button looks weird right?

[lament rock]

Nah

Thats an important element, so big and bright is ok

[sharp geyser]

Gotcha

[slender wagon]

Yo guys i went for the most minimalist design and reduced the site size to just 35kb
What do you guys think?

https://one-tap.cc

also one question should i verify it before or after adding it to top.gg

[pearl trail]

interesting link

[slender wagon]

Y 😭

[pearl trail]

sorry not trying to be mean, i just rarely see .cc around so i might be more vigilant when seeing one

[slender wagon]

Oh i kinda like .cc

Please don’t make me add another domain to my huge collection

😭

[pearl trail]

xDD sorry, that's totally fine

[slender wagon]

I have over 20 domains sitting and assigned to nothing

Its worse than gambling

[spark flint]

lol

real

[radiant kraken]

as you should 😄 you should always be skeptical of links people post here!

[slender wagon]

Especially if it comes from me

[radiant kraken]

if i wanna be super safe, i just open an incognito tab on my browser and paste it there

it doesnt matter if it comes from you, my friends, or anybody else, people's accounts can be compromised

[digital swan]

i don't think the cookie banner is necessary for just normal uses

[slender wagon]

I added it mostly for my payment gateway verification

They check through the site

I dont want them to miss that part

I can’t use stripe so i gotta go with lemonsqueezy with much higer fees

[rare trail]

y'all like playing snake? 👀
https://sh.veerack.dev
-# open the snake app and start a AI Battle game, lmk how far you can get!

[spark flint]

vibecoded asf

[radiant kraken]

how can you tell so fast?

[spark flint]

look at it

you can tell from the design

like the style screams AI

[radiant kraken]

you can't really just say "you can tell from the design" without getting into specifics 😆

[spark flint]

ai has very specific design patterns

[radiant kraken]

like what?

[rare trail]

a grid box is a specific AI design? i don't get it

yes AI is involved, if you look at the portfolio main page i clearly specify how i use AI anyway

[spark flint]

it always uses a blue/gray gradient (and always tries to use a gradient for some reason), i dont know how to describe it but theres signs on sites that use AI

it tries to mimick shadcn a lot

[radiant kraken]

i love that you're being transparent

[rare trail]

yeah idc, i use AI daily for my projects, but i dont just hey do this for me, i actively debug and design as well

that page design for example was made in figma

[rare trail]

you're right, AI added that gradient when it reproduced the design in the webpage for whatever reason. i ended up liking it

[spark flint]

i don't want to cause an argument or anything, just wanted to point out that AI has these specifics that become really easy to notice the more you use it

unless you feed it exact specs of what you want, it will default to gradients and blue/gray (even if you specify dark mode etc) and these components that are essentially trained off of the most popular components (shadcn rn)

[rare trail]

yeah i know, i've been using AI for the past year or so, i can notice as well but sometimes that gradient effect fits for whatever reason lol

[spark flint]

at least its not purple

[rare trail]

the UI there is still subject to change anyway, i spent an unreasonable amount of time doing the math for snake and other things there

[spark flint]

this is the main vibecoded colour lol

purple and blue gradients are AIs absolute FAV for some reason because its deemed 'modern'

[rare trail]

yeah no i can relate

"create me a website where i can list discord bots"

that's the only prompt you need to get that

[slender wagon]

something that's a dead giveaway for a vibe coded site is emojis

[digital swan]

chatgpt loves emojis it pisses me off

[lament rock]

Made a funny little mod bot that tracks when users send the same message multiple times in a short timeframe and times them out for a week because that's usually the behaviour of scam bots posting like those crypto scams or whatever.

Also detects images using a perceptual hashing algo and a leven distance on that hash to determine similarity. So far, it's gotten an innumerable amount of scam bots as the guild it's mainly active in usually sees like 3 scammers per day trying the exact same thing. And then only like once a week does someone get past.

I know I could have made a honeypot channel, but people are stupid. And outright banning isn't a good solution since a week is when people usually get their account back. If we notice repeat actions, then we can ban. Mod pings from users being so low now is really nice.

url is localhost because I forgot to update it to the public facing url, but it works out since that's on my home network :)

[rare trail]

emojis are the only way ai can express its feelings to you, dont shit on them for that

reddit based comment

[rare trail]

thats my best for the record anyway

[radiant kraken]

my best for arcade atm is 80

the game is good, though sometimes when you press too fast it doesn't register your inputs

[rare trail]

deploying some changes i had locally rn for that, been making some changes to it for the past few days

should feel and look better

[crisp trout]

i think the badge and score give it away lol

[tardy marten]

Insane work, I respect it

[crisp trout]

love it :D, similar thing I've built for my rules thing in the dashboard, just + deleting ghe message.

[wheat mesa]

more gradients please, I could almost read the text

[slender wagon]

there is something going on with discord... i am getting these randomly. Seems like random join events are being triggered?

[knotty night]

lol

[frosty gale]

that looks quite serious (relatively speaking) chances are its probably something up with your bot, log the raw events coming into your bot

[slender wagon]

Those aren’t my bots

Those are 2 different bots

Sent me that message at the same time…

The bots aren’t related to eachother either

I know the owner of appy

This is surely on discord’s end

[viral crest]

If it was from discord's end it must have caused many other bots to dm everyone. So it's not from the discord.

[slender wagon]

2 seperate bots welcoming me at the same time for 2 different servers doesn’t seem very local to me

It could be a very specific action from me that triggered it

[viral crest]

Exactly!

[slender wagon]

Which

Is on discords end

[eternal osprey]

Okay boys i am moving away from frontend. Trying to solely become a backend developer.

What do yall suggest? I got python, ts already on mytoolbelt.

Like a language that will not make me homeless in the future 💀

Frontend gave me a headache. Space is moving too much so i need some more stability

[wheat mesa]

C# is a great backend language especially for web development

It never hurts to know C++, though to get a job in it you have to know it pretty well which can take some time

Java is also a must-have for web dev

[limpid onyx]

+1 on C# for the backend

[warm surge]

lmfao probably your code

it aint happing to me

[slender wagon]

The thing is

There was no code involved

[warm surge]

wdym

[slender wagon]

None of them are my bots

💀

[warm surge]

bruh

probably their code

[slender wagon]

But it was 2 different bots

2 different servers

[warm surge]

I know but people can fuck up on their code and not realizing it and no one has reported the bug

Its not Discord end its Developer

i had same problem until i added a return

really easy fix but most likely if the bug isnt gonna get reported to the developers its not gonna fix itself

[deft wolf]

I mean if it were Discord's fault then it would be reported on ddevs but I can't find anything reported like that today

[warm surge]

its not discord fault

its bot devs fault

cuz the bot doesnt know when to stop until a return is added or something like that

its not discord it's the developers of the bot

[eternal osprey]

Hmmm i see. Are there lots of jobs available for it though?

Been hearing lot about rust too

[stark kestrel]

You'll have more chances in C# than Rust

[rare trail]

assembly

or fortran

👀

[wheat mesa]

C# has a ton of enterprise level jobs available

[frosty gale]

yeah unless you know where to look rust is still very new to the job market

most companies ride microsoft so the natural language for any programming ends up being c# for many companies

[eternal osprey]

I see thanky iu guys!

Always there to help me much love

I will start with expansding on python first

[delicate zephyr]

i've noticed this our end too

not sure why it happens

Oh wait, member onboarding @slender wagon maybe?

[slender wagon]

why would it do it for 2 different servers?

[delicate zephyr]

good question actually

must be discord bug

[tardy marten]

hm

[tired zealot]

What should I add, of remove

[knotty night]

The text seems too stretched

[tired zealot]

Ohh I loved that
I’ll try it out

[tacit kindle]

Does this look to much like sapphire?

and what do we think ?

[humble gyro]

its bold branding, if it fits ur vibe its cool

[radiant kraken]

I agree 😄

i feel like the "free forever" is a bit out of place though

[fierce heath]

Hi

[prisma apex]

yo

[crisp trout]

ai generated yah?

like i can sense it 😂

[ripe river]

No

[crisp trout]

lel

[worldly trail]

[rustic nova]

too squished ui imo

[quartz kindle]

add an arm and remove a leg

[warm canopy]

Decided to build my own reporting system for discord as we run a lil community of servers

Hoping to build out a dashboard with some cool metrics which i find interesting as I'm a nerd.

[tired zealot]

removed it :) thanks

[tired zealot]

well yea its in the same vibe as everything

[humble gyro]

blurs the name but its fully readable

[tired zealot]

all that work

it took me so long to blurr it

i just left a part open so you can see the font

[delicate zephyr]

He meant here

[tired zealot]

OHHH

im sorry!

[lyric mountain]

not only out of place, but a very dangerous statement

[pearl trail]

*free forever, until i decide to not to

[tacit kindle]

alr

[tacit kindle]

cooked idk what i did there

[slender wagon]

How do u guys like my minimalistic design

[whole bloom]

nice blur and 'free' promotion

[slender wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-over-head-gif-19697548

[tired zealot]

U must be the funnies person at a party!

[eternal osprey]

Ugly design ngl

[slender wagon]

I tried keeping it under 35kb

[eternal osprey]

For what reason?

[slender wagon]

Speed

[eternal osprey]

So it could load on an apple pen?

[slender wagon]

Yes

[eternal osprey]

i don’t think a few kb matter that much

[slender wagon]

They do

[eternal osprey]

Especially with the trade off being not attracting to customers

Those kbs will save you loading speed but deter clients away

[slender wagon]

Not necessarily

[wheat mesa]

I'm fine with minimalist

[slender wagon]

Alot of people love minimalism

[wheat mesa]

I'm a bit tired of every website being some flashy mix of gradients and overused animations

[slender wagon]

Or uneeded effects/animations

[wheat mesa]

Seems like every product I see now doesn't even tell you what it does on the home page, you can't tell what half of people are even advertising on their own site

[slender wagon]

!!

Its cuz most devs want to impress people

But forget why they are making the site

[wheat mesa]

AI tends to put gradients on everything because it's easy to impress people

I appreciate a good low-detail & fast site

[slender wagon]

U forgot emojis

[wheat mesa]

Taking a look at your site it's pretty good. Only complaint I'd have is that I don't know the source of your metrics of things like "99.9% detection accuracy" and not sure if I trust the claims of "No personal data is ever stored" given the nature of your bot

[slender wagon]

Yes i was going to correct these.
All the important details about a user are one-way hashed

In the privacy page i mention a bit about it

[wheat mesa]

Not sure if I'd believe that either though, since I'd be wondering how your premium "live feed" works for a given user, since it mentions their username

[slender wagon]

Usernames aren’t

One sec

[wheat mesa]

I wouldn't say it's bad to retain personal data in this case, since I'm assuming you have to maintain some sort of blacklist or track user activity in order to identify it as risky

[slender wagon]

Im not on my pc rn but i showd @acoustic bough examples of ehat i store

[slender wagon]

I compare hashes

[acoustic bough]

hi

[slender wagon]

We are talking about my encryption

[wheat mesa]

I guess it mostly depends on how you're scoring users' risk

In my mind, keeping track of suspected alt accounts would require storing some degree of personal data

But I don't think there's anything wrong with that in this case, just that the claim that no personal data is ever stored I'd be suspect of

[wheat mesa]

I see

Cool stuff then

[slender wagon]

Im scared of db breaches so i said to myself why carry the risk of being fined a good amount of money by EU

It’s relieving hashing the data

[wheat mesa]

Ah okay after reading your privacy policy I understand more now

[slender wagon]

And i envy apps like signal

[wheat mesa]

Interesting bot concept, I like it. Are you using any sort of ML model to "score" users, or is it some formula you've come up with on your own?

[slender wagon]

I’ll show u

I’ll send it in dms

[wheat mesa]

👍

[stark kestrel]

With a salt I suppose?

[slender wagon]

Yessir

https://tenor.com/view/salty-salt-bae-gif-7529894

[lament rock]

you'll love geocities

lets normalize that design language again

[frosty gale]

just some feedback (sorry i didnt get around to your dm) hashing the ip (assuming its ipv4) with sha256 can be easily reversed even if you use a salt because
if you exclude private ranges you only get around 4 billion combinations, and since sha256 is very fast youll crack that in no time
youd be better off using a pepper for that (some kind of secret you store securely that isnt stored in the database)

but honestly me personally i consider ips to be basically public so storing them plaintext isnt usually the end of the world, but totally fair if you want to secure them in some way from data breaches

[slender wagon]

right

i appreciate the feedback!

[frosty gale]

and if youre storing unique identifiers that are sufficiently long and random (referring to the fingerprint/id hash) then you dont need a salt at all!! but i wouldnt touch/change what you are doing already

[quick linden]

Is it good dashboard or just too complex

[spark flint]

that looks so complex

[stark kestrel]

make an acutal dashboard

[quick linden]

Well it will need a website login for dashboard, i wanted users to manage from discord

like no need to login with accounts to webs..

[stark kestrel]

and it results in something unusable and overly complicated

[quick linden]

hmm so you think users would like a website dashboard more

[stark kestrel]

from a user perspective, i see this control panel - i just kick the bot and get another one that has a much simpler way to change those settings via e.g. a web ui

[quick linden]

okok thx

next update is dashboard becz of you

[stark kestrel]

you're free not to do it, just make it less bulky

there's just way too much being shown

[slender wagon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7gJ_UxVnSk can some of u smart guys fact check this

youtube recommended this to me

[quartz kindle]

their benchmar essentially compares spacetimedb vs drizzle

not against any db directly

[slender wagon]

Epic

[frosty gale]

tf is drizzle

[frosty gale]

such bold claims are almost always not true or with huge caveats in databases

only so much you can do to speed up IO and b trees

[quartz kindle]

an orm

also, their benchmark is network based

so they are actually benchmarking the network stack, not the db itself

[quick linden]

Better now i guess

[swift edge]

man it's too much button

[clever tundra]

can you split it into sections w/ dropdowns?

or do it in a modal with the new select components

[swift edge]

you can try like this StringSelectMenuBuilder

[quick linden]

Menu better?

I think choosing between buttons more clear

[swift edge]

ahhh thats too much hochpoch

i would highly recommend moving all buttons into diff menus

[crisp trout]

that's so convoluted

[frosty gale]

i love orms but hate them because they can be incredibly inefficient

[quartz kindle]

i hate them regardless of efficiency

:^)

[frosty gale]

efcore in c# is especially atrocious, the overhead it adds horrifies me
but at least you get a good developer experience

[neon leaf]

drizzle is fine, its quite literally just type-safe sql

no weird on-app joins or whatever

[frosty gale]

https://giphy.com/gifs/instagram-nazoom-half-closed-eyes-yxy69FCE06Ql0Fjk4Z

[slender wagon]

In order to implement my bot you have to.
Manually create the verified role
Manually create the verification channel where the main embed will be sent
Manually remove the permission for the everyone role to see all the channels & categories
And ofc make it so the verified role can access the rest of the channnels
AND on top of that you have to drag the bot role on top of the verified role

I feel this is wayyy too much for the average attentionspan of a gen z

I was thinking of making a semi-automated setup but idk how to properly implement it.
Do you guys have any idea

I do have a dashboard as well btw.

[quartz kindle]

the bot should be able to automatically create the role, the channel and remove the permissions, you just need to give it the proper perms to do that

a /setup command could let the user select between manual and automated setup

and a /status could list the requirements and their statuses/availability

its a lot of work but its totally doable

i did a similar thing in an old captcha bot i made

[crisp trout]

ive automated all that with a single command lol though i do have a massive db and alot of fields auto populate lol

[slender wagon]

Yep ima do that

Is there a way to get the role higher up or does that require manual work

[deft wolf]

This is one of those things that the user has to do manually afaik, otherwise it would be abused

[quartz kindle]

yeah you need to set the bot to require manage roles, so when invited it will autoatically get it, and then an admin needs to place it above the roles it should manage

or the bot itself can create roles below it, but the admin still needs to place them above other relevant roles for them to take effect

[slender wagon]

Okay sounds good

[tight topaz]

Hey everyone ❤️

Quick fun question from me - I saw a few bot pages around that managed to somehow update the look and the icons used on the standard invite and vote buttons on their bot pages.

I only found out recently you could supposedly target them and change them via the long description inline HTML/CSS, but I can't find IDs/classnames to do that specifically, and was wondering if anyone has any advice ?

Thank youu !

[stark kestrel]

Ctrl+Shift+I (Dev Tools) and inspect the elements :)

Then it's just your creativity with CSS, note that some obvious things are not allowed, e.g. lots of flashing effects and such

[tight topaz]

I did exactly that but I'm still not sure how it works

For example the Invite button looks like this

<div class="w-full md:w-auto css-0">
  <a class="!button !button-sm md:!button-lg w-full md:!w-auto button-primary! truncate" href="/bot/1332364544869142538/invite">
    <h2 class="hidden md:block">Invite</h2>
    <h2 class="md:hidden">Invite</h2>
  </a>
</div>

But these don't have IDs and they seem mostly generic classnames that might be used in other places 🤔

For the example above how would I go about adding a custom icon/src ?

Sorry if it's a stupid question I'm genuinely amazed how people figured out you can do that lol

[fallow garnet]

/Balance

@fallow garnet

[deft wolf]

[quartz kindle]

kurwa?

[quartz kindle]

you can use any combination of ids, classes, tags and props in css

the more specific you are, the better

for example for that specific block you could do:

div.w-full.css-0 > a.truncate > h2 {
  ...
}

of course you would need to match it from the beginning, so add its parent, and parents parent, etc... until you have a truly unique sequence that can uniquely identify a specific element

[tight topaz]

hmmm interesting

Thanks for the pointer ! Let's try it out then

[quartz kindle]

you can even do this:

a[href="/bot/1332364544869142538/invite"] {

}

[tight topaz]

this top.gg inline HTML document never ceases to amaze me lol

[quartz kindle]

its just standard css

what topgg does is it takes your long description, and places it inside the existing page html

so the page looks like this:

... existing topgg html
<div> some topgg div
 {longdescription}
</div>
... more topgg html

so whatever you write in it, it will be parsed like real html once its placed inside the page

and this is 100% valid native html+css ```html
<div>
<style>
a[href="/bot/1332364544869142538/invite"] {
color: black;
}
</style>
<p>my bot</p>
</div>

[stark kestrel]

Small tip, right click the element and you can copy the CSS path/selector for that element

[deft wolf]

Huh?

[swift edge]

He need to customise the vote button on his website
I’m asking him to create website using html and css and if he need vote counts he can get it from api

[deft wolf]

No, he's asking about top.gg page of his bot

[swift edge]

My bad

[stark kestrel]

No, asking about customizing

"For the example above how would go about adding a custom icon/src ?"

[deft wolf]

"Huh?" wasn't for you

[stark kestrel]

ah lovely deleted messages

[deft wolf]

I should start using reply function so it would be more obvious

[eternal osprey]

hey, hypothetically speaking,

suppose a wordpress site was hacked. I login, i just check the dashboard etc, is there any chance that any malware is injected into my mac? Using safari browser.

May be a dumb ass question

but i am genuinely interested to know

I know js injetion is a big thing, but aren't browsers hella sandboxed now?

[clever tundra]

my general knowledge: you cant get a virus by just visiting a page. it can download stuff for you, sure, but it cant open it or do anymore

[eternal osprey]

yeah, mac has a strong: "do you want to install ..." ruling though, so i don't think that will go unnoticed.

[clever tundra]

it can do popups and stuff though, which is annoying but nothing bad

[eternal osprey]

i mean js injection.

[clever tundra]

mac is pretty secure anyways so its not a bad thing

[eternal osprey]

but even then browsers are sandboxed. Iiirc all tabs are contained in their onw environment

[clever tundra]

safari has each tab in an environment so yes

unless theres a zero day exploit its impossible

[eternal osprey]

yeah i figured so

i am currently writing a thesis about js injection, skimming specifically

that shit made me paranoid

[wheat mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-meme-buzz-year-copy-meme-gif-4668439001950303425

[radiant kraken]

hai waffle!

how's your engine?

[pastel python]

if you want to pentest your own browser there is a project called beefproject on github you may check it out

[pearl trail]

holy

[pearl trail]

hmm

[pastel python]

that seems legit website

[pearl trail]

seems legit to me too xD

[pastel python]

its on their github linked i just checked

/beefproject/beef on gihub

want help setting it up?

but your gpu spike from just visiting that site idk

[quartz kindle]

well no wonder

its got a fucking full screen canvas animation

with true resolution

[pearl trail]

holy 💀 💀

[quartz kindle]

its literally rendering a 4k video at 60fps

or trying to

[pearl trail]

don't they test it though

i bet most visitors have their browser run on integrated gpu

[quartz kindle]

when you code on beast pcs and dont test on low end laptops

:^)

[pearl trail]

😂

[quartz kindle]

this thing probably uses more power than crypto mining scripts

[pastel python]

i visited that on my current pc this dont have dedicated gpu

my stats stayed fine

[quartz kindle]

whats your screen resolution

[pastel python]

1440

[quartz kindle]

and your browser is full screen?

[pastel python]

im on a minipc

[quartz kindle]

idk, maybe its throttled like crazy

[pearl trail]

what is your integrated

radeon? its 6969 times better than intel

[pastel python]

i7-13700T

[pearl trail]

[pastel python]

i got this for free that cant be beat

[quartz kindle]

the canvas scales to browser width, if the browser is windowed, it wont be as high res

[quartz kindle]

thats a beast igpu

[pastel python]

i have to use gamescope and run games on 720p to ba able to play

[quartz kindle]

heavy games

[pastel python]

cs2 and farlight84 i have been able to run so far

[quartz kindle]

im on an i7-12700H but i only really play league and maplestory

[pastel python]

my cpu is a laptop cpu you can say

[pearl trail]

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/compare.html?productIds=230492,232101 yeah i guess yours is faster than mine

[quartz kindle]

mine literally is a laptop lol

[pastel python]

sorry i didnt check clearly

i used a 2080 super with a xeon before

[sharp geyser]

No wonder the stink permeating off of you was intense, you play league

[quartz kindle]

indeed

[sharp geyser]

How dirty is your keyboard

[quartz kindle]

eh, some dust here and there

[eternal osprey]

heh why did my antivirus mark ngrok as a scam?

it wasn't ngrok, a file installed through ngrok.

this was the file it decoded to.

[stark kestrel]

ngrok is flagged as PUA because it's used a lot for its tunnelling feature maliciously

It marked it as PUA, not scam or virus or something similar

[eternal osprey]

i see

i ddo think that this file is the real deal though not a scam or something

bin.equinox.io is the official ngrok download path.

probably installed it when i used brew install ngrok

[stark kestrel]

yeh

[tired zealot]

BROOOOO DISCORD AUTH is so hard.

[pearl trail]

google is harder

apple hardest yet to me

[neon leaf]

microsoft is worse

20 million different types of auth

all in weird submenus

with multiple api versions that arent documented

[warm surge]

nah it’s easiest

[tired zealot]

I never used it lol I never did something like this

So for me it’s really hard

[stark kestrel]

probably the most basic oauth implementation

[tired zealot]

But hard if you never used it lol

[stark kestrel]

Yeah though the documentation is pretty well written to be fair

[prime cliff]

You realize any lang at this point has a library to use discord oauth so saying it's hard means you really havent googled xD

[neon leaf]

thats 1 of the 20 million types yes

if you search hard enough you can find anything in the microsoft api 'docs'

maybe even a way to auth via pigeon

[frosty gale]

i would like the method with the most vendor lock in please

[neon leaf]

auth via telephone call by sending custom binary protocol in morse code beeps

does that suit your needs?

[tired zealot]

I did Google enough tbh

[pearl trail]

wow the cursor is now animated

[sharp geyser]

I am reminded how much I hate in-app messaging

I wanted to be fancy and shit and add typing indicators and what not, now my messaging gateway takes ages to populate messages so it's not even like it's real-time anymore and typing indicator doesn't even work anyways

💀

[pearl trail]

are you using high tech level messaging system or basic one

[sharp geyser]

Ima be real the frontend for messaging is a jumble of mess I hardly understand

I only know that now it actually works

as far as I know

[deft wolf]

[sharp geyser]

The server gateway makes sense to me

but the client side shit goes over my head

more in regards to the use of tanstack with it since I use it for state

[radiant kraken]

what counts as high tech level?

have you used a high tech level?

[sharp geyser]

I was thinking of using StreamChat

until I saw how expensive it was

💀

Rather struggle and build my own solution

[radiant kraken]

💀

[sharp geyser]

Okay so

I lied

it doesn't really work that well

Messages between users yeah, but I was setting up system messages and uh....yeah that failed

💀

Well that's another version of me problem it was a QOL thing not a necessity

[pearl trail]

i dont even know high tech one xD i was used to implement chat system just like how discord works. event based for everything real time, and fetch during initialization

[radiant kraken]

how did you do it? did you use socket.io?

or some kind of websocket?

[pearl trail]

yeah socket.io, it was implemented on my social media app, which was when i was on high school

[radiant kraken]

yeah i know 😄 i still love your social media app!

making it on high school was truly outstanding, i have no idea why you are not all over the news

they like to make everything viral nowadays

you deserve news coverage frfr

[pearl trail]

noooo 😭 not that pro. there’s still asian kid under my age better than me

[deft wolf]

Wow, that's kinda racist

I like it

[radiant kraken]

the asian kid under my age better than me is takiyo

you are a few months younger than me so that counts

[pearl trail]

xD

[neon leaf]

cursed https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Statements/with

[pearl trail]

looks interesting

debugging & readability gonna be fire

[frosty gale]

which tc39 maintainer thought this was a good idea to add into js in the first place

they add this but they wont add decorators

mfs want to add memory management into js https://github.com/tc39/proposal-explicit-resource-management

[radiant kraken]

now add rust lifetimes to js 😈

function something<'a>(s: &'a string) {
  console.log(s)
}

[covert gale]

true

add borrowing aswell

[radiant kraken]

yes yes

also add multithreaded programming with mutex, rwlock, reference counters, atomic counters, semaphores, and all that 😍

ditch the old event loop 🤢

[frosty gale]

at that point you are just turning js into golang

[jaunty apex]

Plz any one give me gift i lose all my

[deft wolf]

[pastel python]

guys i kinda need help

im kind of new to development so i would like feedback from people

on my bot

[swift edge]

is there any way to have test webhook of vote?

[clever tundra]

yeah theres a send test button

on the page where you set it up

[swift edge]

it sends test one

it doesnt have a body

[clever tundra]

it should do

it does for me

just changes the type from vote to test

[swift edge]

i was using sdk

maybe prob with sdk i will rewrite

[clever tundra]

it sent me the vote message tho, so it must work

[swift edge]

body is undefined

[clever tundra]

weird

I have no clue

bearing in mind I'm using old webhooks so that may be different

need to migrate tbh but I cba

[swift edge]

thanks got it

needed to read docs missed RAWBODY

[frosty gale]

on that note js actually has.. atomics??
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Atomics

this probably means were not too far off from better multithreading support in js

[neon leaf]

did you not know about this?

[frosty gale]

i have indeed not, i thought js was sticking to its usual single thread focus

[neon leaf]

SharedArrayBuffer has been around for ages

[frosty gale]

ah i know about that, but not atomics

now i can ditch golang for js

[neon leaf]

true

or use this https://github.com/sustrik/libdill

ignore literally any link being broken

this is essentialyl the same thing by the same dev with a working site https://libmill.org/

[frosty gale]

that link on their readme lmao

[neon leaf]

ye

prob didnt renew domain

but libdill/libmill are very interesting

[frosty gale]

this looks huge tbh for c codebases

[neon leaf]

It can execute up to 20 million coroutines and 50 million context switches per second.

not sure how that compares to go tbh

[frosty gale]

i can imagine go will probably perform noticeably worse but probably not in a way that you'll notice (or something you cant improve within go) running a web server or something similar

depends how both are written really

[pearl trail]

bro istg i really hate xampp or the mysql, it keeps corrupting because i didn't stop it when i do power cycle

[pastel python]

Lol

Maybe use your own setup using a docker compose file
here is a gemini generated compose file

  # 1. PHP + Apache
  php-apache:
    image: php:8.2-apache
    ports:
      - "8080:80"
    volumes:
      - ./src:/var/www/html
    command: >
      sh -c "apt-get update && apt-get install -y libpq-dev && 
             docker-php-ext-install pdo pdo_pgsql pgsql && 
             apache2-foreground"

  # 2. PostgreSQL (Database)
  db:
    image: postgres:15
    environment:
      POSTGRES_USER: dev_user
      POSTGRES_PASSWORD: dev_password
      POSTGRES_DB: my_app_db
    volumes:
      - pg_data:/var/lib/postgresql/data

  # 3. Adminer (DB Management)
  adminer:
    image: adminer:latest
    ports:
      - "8081:8080"

  # 4. Apache Tomcat (Java Servlet Container)
  tomcat:
    image: tomcat:10.1-jdk17
    ports:
      - "8888:8080"
    volumes:
      - ./webapps:/usr/local/tomcat/webapps
    restart: always

  # 5. SFTP Server (Open-source FileZilla Alternative)
  # This allows you to upload files to your server via SFTP
  sftp:
    image: atmoz/sftp
    ports:
      - "2222:22"
    volumes:
      - ./src:/home/dev_user/upload
    command: dev_user:dev_password:1001

volumes:
  pg_data:

[radiant kraken]

how does that happen??

[frosty gale]

mysql should absolutely not be corrupting itself after a power cycle 😭 mysql is acid compliant which means transactions either fully happen or dont happen at all, there should be no partial state after a power outage unless you messed some setting or OS disk write caching up

[pastel python]

i dont know how well this is gonna go cause i didnt test it

[pearl trail]

i'm not sure, basically i just start mysql through xampp, do my development thing, and i shutdown my laptop when is stop using it. when i start the mysql back, the system database corrupted, i can't login to my created user, every action made has no result on the phpmyadmin, same goes when i try to connect via my app. then i backup the data, spin it up to create new one, and move my only databases and the ibdata, it works again. never happened something similar with postgres for year

[radiant kraken]

nooooo 😭

[frosty gale]

maybe you're using the older myisam engine in mysql? double check you're using innodb but that definitely should not be happening

[pearl trail]

the default is innodb yeah, altho the corrupted table is the internal mysql itself, which uses mix of innodb, aria (the most), and csv

[viscid epoch]

where's the api option for my bot

[warm surge]

you won’t see it until your bot been approved on topgg

[viscid epoch]

so I wait

[warm surge]

yup

[eternal osprey]

Hey i have a question. I have a aervice running on port 3000 on my vps. It is fully locked down. I need a service that exposes only port 3000 to a specific set of ip ranges.

I used ngrok but they are expensive to run now. Hence i was thinking about using cloudflare tunnels

What do you yhink?

[rustic nova]

why not ufw allow 3000

with the ip range needed

[eternal osprey]

How would my external server connect to it then?

With my public ip?

Is that safe? I mean i know which ip ranges connect to it.

So i can maybe set that using ufw?

[rustic nova]

yeah you can do that with ufw

At least from my understanding, using ngrok or cloudflare tunnels (unless cf tunnels has ddos protection) is just kind-of moving your issue further away

for example

sudo ufw allow from 203.0.113.0/24 to any port 443 proto tcp

I have done that before with my own network where I only wanted internal IPs to connect to ssh but allow public connection to other specific ports (chief server / management server -> managed servers)

[rustic nova]

unless public ip in your context is your own router for example

if thats a vps already connected to the internet, i dont see issues with ufw

[eternal osprey]

i see, i will for sure use ufw.

for a security endpoint i used ngrok but they are ridicilous in pricing for a tunneling service. So i figured to just use ip port combinations and limit to a specific ip.

there's a problem though, the external server requires https. I could access ip:443 but the lcaol server runs on port 3000.

[rustic nova]

probably something portforwarding from 3000 to 443 could be possible

will check in a bit

[eternal osprey]

hmm

[rustic nova]

or a reverse proxy or something

[eternal osprey]

yeah that's what i thought of as well, proxying 433 to 3000..

[eternal osprey]

i figured to use caddy

it provides free tls so it forwards any 443 requests to 3000

[rustic nova]

caddy works good for that yeah

[eternal osprey]

and it's easy to setup lol one config file and that's it.

thanks for brainstorming with me Aurel

[rustic nova]

theoretically you've just used ngrok to do all that

[eternal osprey]

i sometimes yap here but that's my way of brainstorming

[rustic nova]

same, just not here too often

[eternal osprey]

yeah butttt this is 144$ cheaper

ngrok is DAMN expensive lately. I remember that they were free.

I mean they still are but with ephemeral domains, no ip control. In prod this is not super safe.

[frosty gale]

chat, going to be doing my first ever dynamic dispatch

ive entered the dark side

[neon leaf]

the bright side

[neon leaf]

does anyone know a site for splitting up images into 2x2 so I can make a fancy big discord emoji out of 4 parts

[rustic nova]

https://ruyili.ca/image-splitter/ is nice

[neon leaf]

nice ty

[eternal osprey]

cloud86 vps prices gotta be criminal

400$ a month for 24gb ram and 200gb.

[frosty gale]

managed vps iirc means youre also partly paying to have their support team on standby to assist you with server tasks you may have, so that price would make sense albeit on the more expensive side

unmanaged is cheaper but youre on your own when it comes to any issues/things you want to do within the vps

[deft wolf]

So "we can't help you unless you pay us" pretty much

Even with the basic stuff?

[frosty gale]

yeah but then again this is industry standard, you usually only ever want to pay for the hardware rather than also for their support (but many offer it as an addon)

im not sure if this is still the case but contabo does occasionally help you free of charge for certain support stuff, but usually only if you claim theres some issue on their end

[slender wagon]

I use proxycheck to check if an ip is actively used in proxy or a vpn.
I was thinking of caching its responses for a day for each ip. But i’m not sure what to use to cache them so the retrieval is fast.
(Users that don’t get verified for the first time try to re-verify multiple times)
I currently use postgres for the db if that matters

[delicate zephyr]

that would immediately flag me tbf

[slender wagon]

How come

[delicate zephyr]

it didnt when i was working cause I didnt have my thing enabled but

[slender wagon]

Well it is ok I’ve noticed many people have their vpns on first time

But most of them turn it off

[delicate zephyr]

I mean

mines my own

so idk if it gets flagged

can send the IP for you to check if you want

[slender wagon]

If its hosted in a vps probably

[delicate zephyr]

dedicated server

[slender wagon]

U can check it in proxycheck by urself

[frosty gale]

i host my vpn on oracle cloud and it comes up as hosting, but not as a vpn

so you can still detect it though

[slender wagon]

https://proxycheck.io/

They have the check ip on their main page

[slender wagon]

Lol

[frosty gale]

yeah same as me

never a fan of vpn detection but if its part of your bots selling point then i guess go ahead

[delicate zephyr]

this is funky

[slender wagon]

I think i have set the risk to 50 or 60

So u might fo through

Im not sure if i should block hosting

[delicate zephyr]

please dont

[slender wagon]

Lol

[frosty gale]

no comment

[slender wagon]

If it becomes a problem i will

But i guess it’s fine for now

[quartz kindle]

well, self-hosted vpn is a legitimate use case

but so is self-hosted botting, and regular vpn

[slender wagon]

I was thinking that

[quartz kindle]

plus if you are blocking regular vpn, then self-hosted vpn shouldnt be an exception

[slender wagon]

Right

[near dew]

hey guys, do you know what the average wait time for intent verification is right now? My bot has been stuck at 100 servers for 3 weeks.

[deft wolf]

It's Discord. It could be even a month

[slender wagon]

Mine got verified automatically

Im guessing cuz i dont need intents

[eternal osprey]

i feel victim to typosquatting
luckily it was a fake package to prevent this
https://pypi.org/project/cryptography-fernet/0.1.0/#description

[clever tundra]

i got my first one in 6 days and second in 11 days
second was longer since it was during christmas

[near dew]

and what intents do you have enabled?

[clever tundra]

message content

painful intent to get

first one was denied

second was approved

[pearl trail]

hell yeah it happens again

2026-03-01 11:47:23 0 [ERROR] mysqld.exe: Index for table '.\mysql\db' is corrupt; try to repair it

***WARNING: .\mysql\db could not be opened: Error: 126
 47% 58% 71% 84% 97% 100% (0.0 seconds); tables to flush: 1 0
 (0.0 seconds); 

😍 😍

[stark kestrel]

xampp says it all

[rustic nova]

i dont even wanna touch xampp for development anymore

just run a docker container

[slender wagon]

Xampp was hate with first sight for me

I just hate it

[crisp trout]

ew xampp

i remember using it when i was 10 lol

[frosty gale]

tbh im clueless, probably some weird setting you have enabled somewhere or somethings weird with the environment youre running it in

havent used xampp personally either

[pearl trail]

well yeah fair my laptop dies due to overheat crash while i was gaming quite often, altho postgres survived all the crashes for months. i’ll try another alternative or find the solution, thanks

[frosty gale]

why are you using mysql anyways? i thought xampp came with mariadb since mysql is a proprietary hellhole

(thanks oracle for ruining a good database)

[pearl trail]

oh, it’s called mysql on the xampp, although the driver/engine it uses is mariadb

sure i can use standalone mariadb but my uni use xampp on everything db related

[rustic nova]

we're forced to use this

when i was in school

glad I dont have to at work

[frosty gale]

tomcat and phpmyadmin is bringing me back at least 10 years

[rustic nova]

oh god

[frosty gale]

at my job we use c#, iis and sql server which i hate but given people are forced to use xampp in 2026 i think i have it good

[frosty gale]

tho sql server is a good database just too bad its proprietary

also im sorry but if youre paying for a university to teach you a 24 year old stack because they couldnt be bothered to update the course then youre being scammed 💀

might as well give you machines running on windows xp as well at that point

[pearl trail]

LMAO yeah 😭

they’re also forcing us to use java 8 on oop course

[radiant kraken]

huh? they don't care which Java version we used for mine 😄

as long as it's Java

[slender wagon]

muehehehe

[radiant kraken]

awesomee!!

i am so proud of you grainger!

[slender wagon]

:D thenk

[frosty gale]

at least make it less obvious youre trying to max lighthouse

https://giphy.com/gifs/troll-teeth-white-GDp7LycxkT3LG

[slender wagon]

wym 💀

lighthousmaxing

[rustic nova]

theres always gonna be someone who goes "this site sucks and is shit"

no lighthouse is gonna keep you from that

[slender wagon]

I mean i’m not trying to change people’s preferences

[quartz kindle]

your site sucks and its shit

:^)

[slender wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/ьь-gif-7670466070438208879

y u say this to mi

[rustic nova]

Tims statement on that reduces -50% of all lighthouse values

[quartz kindle]

timshouse - takes the score from lighthouse and divides by 2

[humble gyro]

I'd end up with nothing :(

[pearl trail]

💀 🙏

[radiant kraken]

[frosty gale]

guess they havent meteor-proofed the datacenters

[radiant kraken]

💀

[frosty gale]

some people on reddit are saying it was a missile

lmao

i am bad at geography so i didnt think UAE would or should be involved in any of the conflicts that are happening right now

[neon leaf]

their airport got hit

so feasible

[stark kestrel]

It very much is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Dhafra_Air_Base

Cyprus as well (RAF) so yeah, doesn't really matter how far or close

[quartz kindle]

afaik even hotels got hit

brazillian news talked about how a group of brazilians got stuck there because their flight got canceled, and heard explosions while on their way back to their hotel

[radiant kraken]

[slender wagon]

they changed the UI

it used to be different fr

[radiant kraken]

omg

[radiant kraken]

today I learned! 😄

[frosty gale]

goated language feature

[radiant kraken]

true

(btw I was referring to the type keyword, not type aliases as a whole.)

[pastel python]

finally my bot got approved thanks jamie

[radiant kraken]

congratulations!!

[pastel python]

thanks

[cinder osprey]

#getting-started #support #development

[deft wolf]

[frosty gale]

chatgpt bugging tf out lmfao

never knew golang devs prefer explanations in chinese

[deft wolf]

Are you logged in btw?

[cinder osprey]

#development

@cinder osprey

[deft wolf]

[frosty gale]

i am and i have no custom instructions so its very confusing

llm quirk im guessing

[lament rock]

deepseek does that to me often

[slender wagon]

This is scary

Its a matter of time before someone links up stuff and makes something big out of this

[frosty gale]

i dont think it actually pulled anything from other users conversations (at least i hope not), i think its just rambling that was included somewhere in its training set

i remember the time a while ago when chatgpt started spitting out a response to other users messages that wasnt mine lmao but that was an unrelated issue

[slender wagon]

Yeah

Its a matter of time before a huge scandal comes up with these chat services

Its so much private info

One fuck up and we are cooked

[lament rock]

Companies have to start being more responsible with user data

[frosty gale]

some people feed these public llms their secrets and medical info and its scary

[pastel python]

i believe that those llms mention that they might use the conversations you have with that in training somewhere

[frosty gale]

good point, for that then yeah buti meant more as in no live access to other conversations

that would make a lot of sense

[pastel python]

you are basically using a single dataset which keeps on increasing when you interact right?

so i guess they are kinda using it live

and i even heard chatgpt starts its thought process even before you actually hit send. its starts from the moment you start writing

[deft wolf]

I'll outsmart AI and start pasting my text instead of typing it

[pastel python]

haha

you are still giving the data in the end

if you are gonna give it anyway you can just write it

there so you get faster response

[frosty gale]

thats both kinda smart and scary, but it seems feasible looking at the network requests, it sends everything you type to openai instantly without you hitting send

[pastel python]

if you want you can remove all the event listners from the input field

[frosty gale]

looking more at their requests every time you refresh they also call this "prepare" endpoint which does some kind of proof of work???

what on earth are they doing behind the scenes

i have never seen an api do this

[pulsar arch]

Interesting it was Chinese specifically, I know a lot of LLMs struggle more with Chinese Vs English due to the word structure

Wonder if they're feeding in more Chinese data to compensate

[frosty gale]

it only seemed to happen once, after retrying the response it didnt respond in chinese again, maybe it just happened to select a chinese token by accident

llms work off probabilities for next tokens so sometimes it can select a token that isnt necessarily the best prediction in an effort to diversify the output/prevent duplicate words

maybe what happened here

[rustic nova]

true

soon

[lyric mountain]

If the product is free, you're the product
-Sun Tzu

[rustic nova]

true

If the product is you, it is free

[slender wagon]

yayy

[bright thorn]

Hey guys i want button in embed how can i not able to locate this in djs.

[deft wolf]

You can't do that in embeds. You can use container component tho

https://discord.builders/ is very useful for playing around with components v2

[pastel python]

i think we should dig into this

and publish our findings

chatgpt website isnt using browser inbuilt input feild or text area they have a div setup and is capturing your keyboard

[rustic nova]

im certain nobody would care

there's a reason why theres no ads

[deft wolf]

We should call the cops tbh

[wheat mesa]

I’m sure this is mostly for improving their products. You agree to the same terms for basically every single product out there to “collect data to improve our services”

They are probably using it to train more models

[frosty gale]

google is definitely doing worse lmao

though on a side note i am surprised that despite google having access to so much data (google search engine, youtube, comments, reviews etc) their LLM models still arent as good as some of the competition like anthropic

[neon leaf]

I prefer Gemini pro over Claude for coding-related tasks

[pastel python]

i just use the version that seems to be sufficient

[wheat mesa]

I prefer Gemini pro for the first 3-5 queries, but Gemini seems to have really bad context windows despite saying that it supports a massive context window. It generally struggles to remember things I’ve given it from 3-5 queries ago, which makes it annoying to work with

It’s pretty great for one-shotting frontend tasks though

[neon leaf]

agreed

I don't do long contexts so I don't notice as much

[wheat mesa]

I usually only use Gemini when I have documents I need to upload or if I am prototyping a frontend from a single prompt

[frosty gale]

i havent tried gemini much though admittedly other than the free model sometimes but since google seems to be running a google one free trial for one month i might give it a go more

[wheat mesa]

I find that ChatGPT has the best long-context experience (at least from my personal experience with it)

[knotty night]

im slowly migrating from chatGPT to gemini

[neon leaf]

https://petergpt.github.io/bullshit-benchmark/viewer/index.v2.html

[wheat mesa]

Though gpt’s web interface is horrendously laggy when you have long conversations, because despite paying every engineer over $1m TC, they still haven’t figured out how to virtualize DOM elements that are out of view

[neon leaf]

I have that issue on gemini with 1-mesage-chats

anytime it responds a large code block

4gb tab mem usage

[wheat mesa]

GPT is even worse. I genuinely have to start new chats because after like 20-30 messages, the typing starts to lag and it’s impossible to get a timely response

Then I have to re-explain the chat/issues I was working on

It’s insane that they still haven’t fixed it. I’d imagine there has to be a reason for it, but I couldn’t possibly think of one

[wheat mesa]

This is actually a pretty cool benchmark

Anthropic has been doing great work with their models in terms of hallucination %

I’m surprised to see that gpt accepts so much bullshit

[frosty gale]

gpt is horrendous in terms of that

you have to double check every second message because it can just be bs a lot of the time

notable mention from yesterday

it corrected itself in the second message but why is it suggesting complete bullshit

claudes numebrs are impressive though

[wheat mesa]

Yeah I’ve noticed that, especially when it switches from the higher models down to the free tier once I run out of the trial credits for the day

[frosty gale]

ive got chatgpt to make a nonsensical question and asked it to itself, gemini 3 pro and claude 3.6
chatgpt just ate it up, gemini pro gave a sort of joking answer but did recognise it makes no sense, claude straight it called it nonsense

gemini 3 pro seems a lot better with this but still fumbles sometimes

although claude did call me out here, maybe anthropic is explicitly training their models to recognise nonsensical questions??

because claude suspiciously performs miles better than the other llms

i wonder how it handles realistic questions that sort of make sense but dont

[quartz kindle]

gpt be like: "ah the classic <insert random string> question/problem"

claude be like "you are absolutely right"

also, i a once again working with the most bullshit api ever invented, that uses GET requests like this:
/basicspacedata/query/class/gp/FIELD1/VALUE1/FIELD2/VALUE2/FIELD3/VALUE3/format/json

[frosty gale]

i would quit

i dont understand why some of these developers want to make their lives hard

[quartz kindle]

thats what happens when developers are primarily scientists and not developers

[slender wagon]

Gpt just be bending itself for u

I hate it

[queen needle]

Wtf what api

[lyric mountain]

what's that even for?

[quartz kindle]

space-track.org

for tracking satellites

[lyric mountain]

should've guessed

[quartz kindle]

luckily they have a yearly zipped data dump so i can avoid using their api for the most part

converting it all into an sqlite db

200+ million rows xd

[frosty gale]

sqlite goated

[lyric mountain]

reminds me of the banana hamster meme

[quartz kindle]

25gb file

0.13ms query time

[high gale]

is there any way of setting up a premium based commands which unlock on voting every 12 hours currently i used the top gg webhook by ports etc ive seen some new setups like the vote tracker and different setups can they work somehow same?

cuz im switching hosting very soon which might have issue with ports and that method for me might not work anymore

[lament rock]

Hosting providers usually have all ports allowed I/O

If not, you can look into the ufw command on unix based systems

[pastel python]

you mean you are using your ports?

for incoming traffic

you should at least get 2-3 ports open

[high gale]

its kinda scuffed for me the hosting i use has ports but a 15% cpu usage and im thinking to change then the other doesnt have any ports says to buy premium

[pastel python]

how much are you willing to pay for your vps and how much resources do you need?

i might know a quite cheap vps provider

[pastel python]

so how much is it? ^

[high gale]

porlly like a 2usd or sum i dont mind paying is just they dont support payment method i use

i dont have a paypal currently so yeah

im so cooked

lmao

[pastel python]

monthly?

[high gale]

yeah\

[pastel python]

then there is a vps for 12/yr

how does that sound

[high gale]

thats good

oh

[pastel python]

its from germany

[high gale]

works tell me in dm might be not allowed here i think promoting nd stuff

[pastel python]

yeah

[pastel python]

not all

[radiant kraken]

okay I think I finally have a thing that makes me despise Java

it has no import aliasing 🤢

its supersets have it but not the main language lol

no wonder people's class names tend to be hyper specific and long

[neon leaf]

https://github.com/mrconter1/rustc-php

[radiant kraken]

wtf

[quartz kindle]

why not

[slender wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/headache-my-head-hurts-headache-cat-gif-14622281057500278312

[lyric mountain]

people's class names are rarely hyper specific and long, that's enterprise or legacy java codebases

[radiant kraken]

i am concerned of my class names colliding with developers that use my library

[lyric mountain]

what's the lib abt?

[radiant kraken]

it's the Top.gg Java SDK

I have so many classes 🙈 I was so concerned that maybe "Webhooks" is too broad so I decided to add "DIscordBotList" prior to it

[lyric mountain]

ppl still use discord4j?

but well, I'd not worry much abt conflict, the chance of it happening is very slim

[lyric mountain]

deadnaming topgg >.>

[covert gale]

you can also just shorten it

so instead of DiscordBotListWebhooks just do DBLWebhooks

[radiant kraken]

that's what I thought too, but the previous version still uses DiscordBotList

thought it'd be way too breaking 🙈 what do u guys think?

[radiant kraken]

the library's name still has DBL on it

[radiant kraken]

i took a peek at libs.advaith.io and it looks pretty alive to me

[covert gale]

if your doing a major version bump then it doesn't really matter if it's breaking

[covert gale]

for the classes above it honestly might make sense to have those in separate jars and use capabilities to pull in the one you want

i can grab an example, give me a second

jarJar(implementation("dev.ithundxr:lotus-codecs:1.0.0-build.8") {
        capabilities {
            requireCapability("dev.ithundxr:lotus-codecs-minecraft-neoforge")
        }
    })

that basically imports a specific module from that library and pulls in the base library aswell

so sorta similar to cargo's features array

[radiant kraken]

yes, that's what i am trying to do

I divided the library into six source sets

[radiant kraken]

don't you think "Webhooks" is a bit too common of a name? 🙈

[covert gale]

yeah that's perfect

[lyric mountain]

a bit yea

oh, ur adding support to rest libs too

[radiant kraken]

mhm! 😄

[radiant kraken]

oops, just realized feature names can't have dashes 🙈 my bad!

i got a bit too used to Rust lol

[covert gale]

🦀

[neon leaf]

@quartz kindle what do I do with this

[covert gale]

you could probably make a pretty nice jellyfin media server with that

[neon leaf]

@knotty night

[knotty night]

thanks

[neon leaf]

weblate MIGHT be the worst open source software ive ever used

[quartz kindle]

what the hell is that

[neon leaf]

im gonna install a working os on a real drive and try running ollama

I am praying my breaker will not kill me

[wheat mesa]

Lmfaoooo

Power supply begging for mercy

[neon leaf]

ies

2x2000W + 1x550W

[wheat mesa]

Is that a blower fan next to it for cooling

[neon leaf]

it could be but no, not enabled