development

[quartz kindle]

i feel like reading code you didnt write yourself is so much easier to miss something

so you lose confidence in the program/project/commit

[queen needle]

How's trae goin

[quartz kindle]

so far, pretty weird

not used to this kind of stuff

[queen needle]

ah that's fair

I've tried every AI editor except cursor

[quartz kindle]

lots of waiting and lots of wrong stuff, i guess im not good at explaining what i want it to do

it often tries to do things i didnt ask

[queen needle]

Yeah..

I often have to stop it and just reject it all so it can understand me better

[quartz kindle]

i wanted to try augment, but they shut down the free tier lol

[queen needle]

Here is what you gotta do, use chatgpt to make the prompt better then give it to trae

[queen needle]

They all seem to, or limit it a LOT

[quartz kindle]

because AI is not profitable

its expensive af, and they all rush in with billions in investment and offer deals to capture interest

[queen needle]

trae is made by bytedance

[quartz kindle]

and then when they face the actual bill, its all comes crashing down

[queen needle]

so they have money

[quartz kindle]

im testing it with deepseek3.1:free from openrouter now lol

it keeps generating broken files lol

files are either cutoff at the end, or missing huge chunks in the middle for no reason

[neon leaf]

another user stole ur code suggestion !

[quartz kindle]

lol openrouter has a limit for free requests

they are "free" but you cant use them

[swift barn]

I mean you didn’t pay 😂

[frosty gale]

i found cursor to be the best

still quite buggy and dodgy but better than the others from what ive seen

and i get it for free from work

getting paid to vibe code is wild

[quartz kindle]

gemini 2.5 flash:
i will now proceed to do X
I apologize for the repeated mistake
i will now do X
i apologize for the issue
i will now proceed with X
I apologize for the oversight
I have successfully reviewed X
I will now proceed to do X
Task Completed
(did not actually do anything)

[solemn latch]

yeah

I've been noticing that

pro seems to do better ish

[vivid fulcrum]

yeah they often fail at anything that requires expertise in complex technical problems. 🤐 more often than not I'm arguing with LLMs over a system design choice. it's great for writing boilerplate though

[neon leaf]

beautiful

[solemn latch]

I just let an Gemini pro write on its own for like an hour today, it did surprisingly good.

[wheat mesa]

Gemini pro is half decent but their free model with no limits is pretty bad

[solemn latch]

Yeah

It did 4110 lines pretty much unsupervised. Works without issue.

It'll have problems with some stuff I'm working on next, so I'll just do it myself but it was really easy.

[frosty gale]

dont forget about the emojis
✅✅ X is now complete! 🎊🎊🎊🎊🎊
(x is not complete)

the amount of emojis and ticks it always gives me after it said it did a task when it did not drives me up the wall

[quartz kindle]

yesterday deepseek went into a loop trying to fix some "broken encoding" of some chinese character that it put in the file somehow

[frosty gale]

lol you can even see the message markers

think it did something similar to me a few times

then it just starts making random changes, it says it fixed it, i say its not, the loop repeats

[eternal osprey]

(base) apple@Mac ~ % ping discord.com
PING discord.com: 56 data bytes
Request timeout for icmp_seq 0
Request timeout for icmp_seq 1
Request timeout for icmp_seq 2
Request timeout for icmp_seq 3
Request timeout for icmp_seq 4
Request timeout for icmp_seq 5
Request timeout for icmp_seq 6
Request timeout for icmp_seq 7
Request timeout for icmp_seq 8
Request timeout for icmp_seq 9

boys

what the fuck is my mac doing

all of my api fetch requests are failing as well in my ts project.

ong i am being ddosed

okayyy, turns out a fetch was being held alive and blocked my interface.

[frosty gale]

i cant with these robots bro

and that answer is also incorrect on top of that also which is why i insisted on evidence

[quartz kindle]

lmao

[swift barn]

bro is an overthinker

[quartz kindle]

im trying cursor right now, and its so much better so far, it actually manages to do what i want

im still within pro trial though

i first asked it to identify and fix all the issues the other AIs caused, and it did a good job

[frosty gale]

its very good but you have to be relatively granular and specific with it otherwise it starts writing bad code quickly

bad code meaning possibly the worst code youve ever seen in your life that looks like it was written by a beginner js discord bot developer in this channel

[queen needle]

the issue is php

[quartz kindle]

lmao

im using it to create a localization system for a website

right now they have dedicated files for each language

i need to scan all these files, compile a database of localized strings, and create files that access this localization data

this is extremely annoying to do by hand and most AIs i tried end up not correctly detecting the strings and generating completely broken files

[neon leaf]

cant you just write a simple script for that? or am I misunderstanding something

[quartz kindle]

its extremely annoying

strings are all over the place

in html structure, html attributes, php variables, comments, php arrays/objects

[crystal wigeon]

um guys

wtf

It says customId is empty when sending url buttons

but if i add a customId it says customId and url cant be specified

wtf? it breaks everything

Invalid Form Body\\ncomponents[0].components[0].custom_id: Must be between 1 and 100

.components[0].url: A custom id and url cannot both be specified dafuq man?

everything was working fine until today

[prime cliff]

You can't have ids on url buttons

You either have CustomId or Url not both set

[crystal wigeon]

yeah i fixed it. althought before they accepted the property with empty string

but from today morning it looks like you ahve to get rid of the prop

yea

[junior prairie]

Hi

[topaz grove]

Im running into a issue and honestly have no idea how to fix it or what to do - essentially when i split my bot up into clusters / shards theres some button functions that dont work, for example replaying a game (a view that edits itself) in my case the button will freeze sometimes but work most of the time

I registered custom ids and have persistent views but im still unsure what this issue is

[prime cliff]

You could be blocking the interaction event or could be some other library issue or extension you are using, try doing console logs to see what happens.

You also need to respond to interactions within 5 seconds either by using a defer (loading) state or simple message.

[topaz grove]

it always says its calling the replay properly - and yeah its fine with the defer im pretty sure. Whats super weird is its only happening sometimes not all the time and it can be super annoying for players

Still trying to figure it out on my end, ive had alot of discord related bugs but im not quite sure if this is one of them or not

[lament rock]

Another thing that can be happening is depending on how your sharding/clustering is happening and how you're handling button callbacks, you may not be in the same memory space where you handle the callback and where you ack the interaction

Either route the interactions with the necessary info to where they're supposed to go so the origin can handle it or have the ability for any worker to handle button presses

Even if you say you have interactions sent over the ws, DMs are always handled by shard 0. And also don't pipe them over the ws. Discord can kill your connection and ask you to resume and the time it takes to resume is enough for your interactions to expire

[quartz kindle]

you know whats ironic?
the best way handle discord interactions is like this:

1. receive interaction via webhook
2. dont respond to it but keep it open
3. create a new post request to the interaction reply endpoint
4. send reply
5. connection received in step 1 will automatically abort
6. handle response from step 4
7. ???
8. profit

[errant harness]

its not up to my bot to be able to view channels it doesnt have access to right? Viewing my logs, i feel like they kicked bot out because it didnt see channels it wasnt allowed (It technically can view all channels but not access them/see the message history). Idk if its a me thing or not. Like enabling/disabling tracking channels i dont even list the the channel if it doesnt have access.

[lament rock]

If users misconfigure their permissions for bots to be able to see then you are technically not obligated to notify them about potential issues or issues that are "currently" arising. Though if you are, within reason, able to notify them, I think you should. Example being they use an application command which has little to no restrictions involved on the bot end like if you receive an interaction, you are practically guaranteed to be able to respond. That way, you can tell them about doing some other action possibly or is "currently" failing

Though would I go out of my way to try to DM them? Not really

[pearl trail]

ah yes can’t click any button xD

[quartz kindle]

you need to install this
https://www.npmjs.com/package/undefined

[deft wolf]

Crazy

[quartz kindle]

have you guys heard about the everything package?

The everything package and its 3,000+ sub-packages have caused a Denial of Service (DOS) for anyone who installs it. We're talking about storage space running out and system resource exhaustion.

[stark kestrel]

oh yeah lmao

wasn't it taken down by npm?

because it blocked removal of npm packages as they were dependencies of that everything package

[quartz kindle]

idk its still there

unless they did something behind the scenes

https://www.npmjs.com/package/everything

[pearl trail]

thank you, it works /s

[stark kestrel]

yeah but the chunks not iirc

or they may have removed that limitation of not being able to delete a package that is dependent on another

remember talking with one of the authors about it

[frosty gale]

these npm packages are so stupid lol

nodejs developers doing everything they can to keep this meme alive

[quartz kindle]

makes you tempted to create a curated/reviewed registry for js

but that would be so much work its insane

you'd need a wikipedia-scale team

scan all 3 million npm packages, organize them by categories/jobs/tasks, approve only the best/fastest version, bug their devs to implement anything that other worse versions offer that the main one doesnt

thats worse than trying to refactor an entire OS source code

[wheat mesa]

The bloat really is impressive

And yet 300k lines of code worth of node modules for a simple web app is still somehow more reliable than dynamically linking one C++ lib

[frosty gale]

then you get a vulnerability alert from a package youve never heard of that is dependency #29162 which is a sub dependency of something 30 levels down

[neon leaf]

rust cargo is worse

90gb for one project

and not even a big one

[acoustic fern]

cargo clean
     Removed 3959 files, 1.3GiB total

so true

[quartz kindle]

and god knows how many versions of exactly the same functionality you have in there

need to capitalize a string?
32 packages uses str[0].toUpperCase() + str.slice(1)
10 packages use capitalize
83 packages use lodash.capitalize
8 packages use just-capitalize
12 packages use titleize
9 packages use title
2 packages use capitalize-ts
...

not to mention different locked versions of the same lib

[stark kestrel]

write your own function

just like isTrue(someBool)

[wheat mesa]

return areBooleansNotEqual(someBool, false)

[queen needle]

return !areBooleansNotEqual(someBool, false)

both are constants

const true = ...

[quartz kindle]

imagine a powerful AI package manager

that could scan the entire dependency tree and deduplicate common functionality

eliminate redundant dependencies

[stark kestrel]

await client.responses.create({
  model: 'gpt-4o',
  instructions: 'You are a coding assistant',
  input: 'Are these values the same boolean: '+someBool+'/'+false,
});

[queen needle]

it's name, Tim

[queen needle]

this guy gets it

[prime cliff]

Another reason not to use OVH https://x.com/vxdb/status/1976309952236105767

vxdb (@vxdb)

One of the largest DDoS mitigation providers for Minecraft networks, TCPShield, has had its OVHCloud account terminated.

According to TCPShield, they are now working with a major Canadian law firm to pursue legal action against OVH over the termination.

X · Oct 9, 2025, 3:33 PM

[rustic nova]

What does TCPShield use OVH for? Mitigation or for what

[quartz kindle]

jesus

i mean, shouldnt a ddos mitigation company have their own datacenter so they dont hog other datacenters? lmao

or at least some sort of partnership where they have their own reserved hardware and dedicated network stack/bandwidth

[prime cliff]

They would have bought dedicate servers and resources at least

[quartz kindle]

probably some dude at OVH just went:

why is our network usage at 99%?
who are these idiots hogging our network?
"unplugs cable"

[unreal mist]

Banana icons with banana theme

I said I’d do it and finally did

[swift barn]

Bros theme is healthy

[unreal mist]

.py? Nah bananas
.js? Bananas
That random file you don’t remember creating? Bananas!

That yellow theme is so pretty tho so it definitely fits 😂

One of my classmates said I was crazy for the banana icons tho

[deft wolf]

https://tenor.com/bUD0i.gif

[unreal mist]

Hehehehe

Yes!

[swift barn]

😂😂healthy icons man

[unreal mist]

Gotta get 1 of my 5 a day somehow, right? 🤣🤣

[frosty gale]

yeah ive noticed same thing with cargo

rust seems to have a very similar rationale to nodejs where you just install a package to do X

in c/c++ you dont see this as often because there isnt a clear or popular package manager and most lib devs just prefer to have 0 or near 0 dependencies

so ironically rust may be more unsafe because of how many sub dependency libraries may have that have some kind of unsafe vulnerable code

language safety is only one half of the battle

only time i ever install a dep in c++ is for json parsing/writing and simd hashing, and those also have no sub dependencies

[radiant burrow]

@radiant kraken is *** %n in writable segment detected *** a common/normal error for c? I'm not seeing much online about it. It's coming from a certain test (checking that my alloc function returns a pointer that is a multiple of 8, satisfying alignment requests)

[radiant burrow]

nvm! it was from the asert function used in tests

[radiant kraken]

[grizzled sail]

Hello

[hidden gorge]

Hello again everyone,

In testing this line of code works but once i put the code onto the VPS it just hates it...

I'm incredibly confused here

This is it running in testing

[small tangle]

Is your nodejs on your vps too old? Are you running node 18 locally?

[wheat mesa]

Yeah your node version is super old

That’s likely the cause

[hidden gorge]

Lemme check

[neon leaf]

the newest node ver is 24

[hidden gorge]

yeahhhh

baboom

there we go

[radiant kraken]

what are you guys' thoughts on https://github.com/microsoft/edit ?

[swift barn]

VIM >

[small mural]

Looking for client who has project. DM

[neon leaf]

I love it when I make a codebase easy to extend

[hollow raft]

    "type": 1,
    "integration_types": [
      0
    ],
    "contexts": [
      0
    ],
    "description_localizations": {
      "en-GB": "Play / add a new track to the queue.",
      "en-US": "Play / add a new track to the queue.",
      "ru": "Воспроизвести / добавить новый трек в очередь."
    },
    "name": "play",
    "description": "Play / add a new track to the queue.",
    "name_localizations": {
      "en-GB": "play",
      "en-US": "play",
      "ru": "воспроизвести"
    },
    "options": [
      {
        "type": 3,
        "description": "Specify the track name or url.",
        "name": "query",
        "name_localizations": {
          "en-GB": "query",
          "en-US": "query",
          "ru": "запрос"
        },
        "description_localizations": {
          "en-GB": "Specify the track name or url.",
          "en-US": "Specify the track name or url.",
          "ru": "Укажите название трека или url."
        },
        "required": true,
        "autocomplete": true
      },
      {
        "type": 4,
        "description": "Specify the volume at which you want to play the track.",
        "name_localizations": {
          "en-GB": "volume",
          "en-US": "volume",
          "ru": "громкость"
        },
        "description_localizations": {
          "en-GB": "Specify the volume at which you want to play the track.",
          "en-US": "Specify the volume at which you want to play the track.",
          "ru": "Укажите громкость с которой следуют воспроизводить трек."
        },
        "name": "volume",
        "required": false,
        "autocomplete": false
      }
    ]
  }```
why is the slash command not imported?

[young prawn]

Did you send it to the Discord API?

[languid dragon]

is discord.js still the goto for ts devs?

[clever tundra]

What

[hollow raft]

https://top.gg/bot/app_id/dashboard/commands

I tried to add commands to the website

[swift barn]

https://github.com/TermuxHackz/Commands-to-Top.GG

[lament rock]

I think it heavily depends on what the project is for. If it's something really simple, then sure why not. But if you're planning on scaling, I still cannot recommend discord.js or any other class based abstraction layers. The most I'd go for is as close to raw API as possible without it being really stupid, so there's a few options.
For rest, either snowtransfer or @discordjs/rest is alright, but I think @discordjs/rest is a bit too close to just making your own http requests for my tastes.
Then for the gateway, I'd likely only recommend cloudstorm and not even @discordjs/ws just because of the fact that @discordjs/ws puts a dependency on the ws package which doesn't scale all that well on high volumes of messages and is quite slower in general

Please ignore the fact I maintain the packages I recommend. It's because they're good that I maintain them

[languid dragon]

hmm interesting, i'm planning on building something of a vast scale, but also convenience and cache handling of discord.js is a decent plus
just to clarify, snowtransfer is essentially fancy api client bindings for discord's api and cloudstorm for ws connection to discord?

[lament rock]

snowtransfer is for the http end of things so creating messages, etc.
As for caching, I think it makes more sense to extract just the data you need instead of holding onto full payloads especially for extended periods

[languid dragon]

hmm, i appreciate your insight, is there an example of these 2 libraries being used in a project already?

[lament rock]

https://github.com/AmandaDiscord/Amanda

[frosty gale]

@quartz kindle can you tell your homies to stop hacking into my unused microsoft account

this is the second time so finally got the motivation to move everything to passkeys and bitwarden instead of bad passwords

[quartz kindle]

huehuehuehuehue

[topaz grove]

i agree, it might be a hidden issue relating to the sharding/clustering but im not sure how to debug it, been at it for over a week now

[earnest phoenix]

Hey I am currently running my moderation bot of a NAS looking to switch it to online hosting anyone got any recommendations

[craggy pine]

Galaxygate

[earnest phoenix]

Is it expensive?

[stark kestrel]

https://galaxygate.net/hosting/vps/

[acoustic bough]

https://datalix.eu/a/luna -> sales page

been using it for over three years now

it's the cheapest (while also reliable) thing I found over my two years of server jumping

[acoustic bough]

hm?

[stark kestrel]

affiliate links my beloved

[oak cliff]

anyone here possibly know anything about microsoft entra?

[earnest phoenix]

Thank you I will be switching over

[stark kestrel]

depends

[oak cliff]

for my masters degree im making up a fake company that is migrating from on-prem AD to microsoft entra and didnt know if i might be able to pick someones brain with some questions

ive been reading their documentation

seems kinda huge

[stark kestrel]

yah, we didn't do that - mainly doing hybrid

can't help for that 🙏

[oak cliff]

my current company i work for is hybrid

but i dont want to bother lol

[frosty gale]

ive used microsoft entra for about 5 minutes

but from i gather with my limited experience of AD at work is that entra is basically a local AD instance hosted by microsoft.. which you probably already know

you're welcome 🙏

[oak cliff]

Lol thanks

[frosty gale]

this feels like a topic where you need to be a neck beard IT person with 20 years of experience to answer properly

[craggy pine]

@solemn latch

[rotund verge]

can someone tell me why this is not working if the message is to long zhe bot should cut it and send the message but idk why it ain't working..

if len(ai_message) > 1900:
    ai_message = ai_message[:1900] + "...\n\n*(Message truncated due to length)*" ```

[patent bramble]

My app was verified and showing the tick like a week ago, but it keeps glitching and hiding and I don't know why. Anyone else happen to experience this?

[deft wolf]

Shows fine for me, maybe it's cache issue or something. If it doesn't affect how your app behaves, it might just be a visual bug

[patent bramble]

That's the thing though. It's also happening on different accounts/devices, even with relogging/incognito.

Also cache issues after 11 days would be insane. It should only be a few days tops.

[wheat mesa]

Going to need to be a bit more specific than this code here

[rotund verge]

nvm worked js had to remove the last slash

[open olive]

I have a question.
How to use buttons in embed?

[clever tundra]

note the above is in discord.js latest stable version since someone will ask
i was that person, but in another channel

[deft wolf]

Buttons cannot be used in an embed, you have to use components v2 for this, specifically a container that "imitates" the appearance of the embed

[open olive]

I’ve seen it in the Owo bot and some other bots, and I was curious how it’s done.
Could you share an example code?
I couldn’t find it anywhere on the internet.

[deft wolf]

Examples with json code and images

https://discord.com/developers/docs/change-log/2025-04-22-components-v2
https://discord.com/developers/docs/components/reference#container

[hushed patrol]

Anyone know why this happened and how to fix it?

[deft wolf]

You can't, there is a limit of 50 integrations per server

Kick non-used bots maybe, idk

[swift barn]

yeah kick a bot or delete some webhooks

[prime cliff]

Webhooks don't count for that

It just means 50 max apps/bots on your server in general

[hushed patrol]

All fixed, thanks @deft wolf @swift barn @prime cliff

[simple cradle]

Yo guys #discord-news is so cool

ima think what cool stuff you can do with this

[supple hound]

Can I look here for developer to make and manage me a bot?

[frosty gale]

how many bots does bro need 😭 🙏

discord adds this limit but people still manage to hit it

[simple cradle]

I didn’t even knew that there was a limit

[hushed patrol]

Idk tbh😭😭 not my server lol

[open olive]

Thx bro

[patent bramble]

I have my bot sending <:emoji:emoji_id> in a message and it just shows :emoji: instead of the actual emoji and I don't know why. It's in the same server so not any sort of "not in server" or "external emoji" restriction. name/ID are correct.

So I totally forgot to use <a:emoji:emoji_id> for animated but still doesn't explain the other non-animated ones lol

[patent bramble]

fkng hell. The test failed because my test bot isn't in the same guild as the ones with the emojis, so it couldn't send them. The prod failed because it sent automated emojis without <a: (just <:)

Wild double whammy

[lyric mountain]

Uhhhh...I just use emote objects :D

[patent bramble]

Eh I would be interested in using the bot's built in emoji store but it's only for the main server so no real need. Plus that still wouldn't of helped my prod vs dev situation lol

[deft wolf]

Elon Musk scam, no way

[neon leaf]

I hate zstd

[frosty gale]

if i had to write this code to get some compression i would just opt in for no compression at all

[neon leaf]

I mean it technically works without this curse

but on max compression level, it oomd my entire machine

[crystal wigeon]

[crystal wigeon]

I can help

What are you looking for?

Has anyone used AI apis for anything? Like open router

how do i give it more context if there’s a lot of content

I tried chunking

[supple hound]

Check DMs

[crystal wigeon]

yo any mods in here

@solemn latchgot a minute

[lament rock]

?

[chrome arrow]

Hi, @static hornet

[frosty gale]

huh? you mean like the openai api? yes

[surreal sage]

how does one approach this css bug

[unreal mist]

this was the size of my interactionCreate.js file- how many lines do you reckon it has now 👀

[acoustic bough]

70

[unreal mist]

thats actually pretty close

[acoustic bough]

the open buffer is my interactionCreate

[unreal mist]

this is the events/client folder of the live version, obviously production version only needed the bottom 2 hence they arent there

[acoustic bough]

i'd never put multiple things into a single file

I must admit that I have over 250 files but still

[unreal mist]

i had all major events in one, but now its split up into their own files

[proven nymph]

You still going on the same bot?

[unreal mist]

of course :D

[proven nymph]

I can't even get to edit my own bots anymore, I'm full with 5 clients

[unreal mist]

D:

i still havent figured a fix to that issue yet though

[proven nymph]

The missions?

[fresh flume]

Could you potentionally award users with money...?

for being the top of a leaderboard

[proven nymph]

Like an interest in their bank, the higher in the leaderboard?

Or per hour, that much money gets sent, depending on how high you're

[fresh flume]

I mean...

Top leaderboard of month = you get money

as in irl

[proven nymph]

Ah

Let me see

[fresh flume]

is there any api which could do that

or package

would be bitcoin

[proven nymph]

Well, aren't you interesting lol

[fresh flume]

yeah lol

[proven nymph]

Discord TOS: Do not offer real money or any real-world financial equivalent (like gift cards, crypto, or PayPal transfers) for bot leaderboards. Stick to on-platform, virtual-only rewards like roles to stay within Discord's rules.

[fresh flume]

i'm probaly the first

[fresh flume]

ah alright then

[proven nymph]

I guess their is a way around

[frosty gale]

terms of service always boring

[fresh flume]

fr

[fresh flume]

ooo there is...?

[frosty gale]

i was about to make a multi million dollar gambling bot

[proven nymph]

By hosting a giveaway that only depends on the rank in the leaderboard

I mean a giveaway is a giveaway

[fresh flume]

oo yh

true

[proven nymph]

But be carefull with stuff like this

As Discord TOS is really strict

But mentioning it in your bot could possibly still break TOS

[frosty gale]

discord doesnt moderate many things strictly but bots they are very strict on

[proven nymph]

So, like, you need to somehow make it apart, but also not apart, linking to the bot to then be able to host a giveaway

[proven nymph]

Yeah, but I'm just saying, as in I don't encourage any of this

So yeah, I don't encourage this, but obviously, just randomly hosting a giveaway set to a rank role in your Discord server is 0 harm, but I personally suggest using a separate bot

[unreal mist]

nono, i got weekly quests working perfectly, its the issue with mobile playability

[proven nymph]

Oh yeah that part lol

Mate at this point just make an app lol

I got a client asking me to make an app

[unreal mist]

one day

[proven nymph]

Firebase is easy use tool

If you know what that is

https://firebase.google.com/

I use it for Google login, and for attachments when someone posts a picture or anything

Anyway i'm logging off lol

[unreal mist]

ive never heard of it before xD

[sharp saddle]

I use supabase auth for it

you can link Firebase with it

[fresh flume]

yeah i just ended up giving owner only cards

[fresh flume]

yeah honestly ive seen so much like robux giftcards, crypto gws using those verified bots

giveawayBot, giveawayBoat and so on....

[digital cove]

Hi

[prime cliff]

That's not even the developers of those bots doing it that's the end-users doing it though.

[fresh flume]

Yeah I know

I’m just saying how I’ve seen that work around multiple times

[prime cliff]

Invite 4 reward bots too are also just as bad and promotes spam

[fresh flume]

Yeah lol why do they even exist

Well anyways I’m proud of myself

Actually been 5 years always decline so thank you to the reviewer who accepted me

Seems like they been hiring non corrupted reviewers!! Took long enough

[deft wolf]

"Hiring"

[hollow pollen]

hello!!!

[deft wolf]

Thanks for the ping

[hollow pollen]

nice to meet u

[real rose]

interesting

[fresh flume]

What’s the max fields in a modal?

Gonna make a command which builds a command and modal and forwards those information to myself with their user ID and so on

Essentially a bidding system but I wanna make iy more cooler

Never mind I’ve solved it

[sharp geyser]

hello

[forest osprey]

Hi can we talk about coding in this channel or no

[swift barn]

pretty sure you can

[reef coral]

Hi

[frosty gale]

only about development

: troll:

[acoustic bough]

honest opinion for bot logo, I prob gonna go with "diff shape"

[unreal mist]

I like the last one

[acoustic bough]

I plan to edit the pride one more and offer it as well as a customizable

the contrast just kinda sucks for it rn

[unreal mist]

Fair enough

[unreal mist]

Looks cool though!

[humble gyro]

the contrast for a logo is pretty harsh

[acoustic bough]

for which

[hoary cliff]

components v2 is so nice to play around with

actually happy with how this looks

also really fun to play around with separators

[unreal mist]

Oh yeah!

Separators are great, just don’t over use them 😁

[clever tundra]

So this is too many?

[unreal mist]

I-

[clever tundra]

I think it needs more

[hoary cliff]

more

its beautiful

[harsh nova]

Thought that message was very well designed, checked the link in the image, and ofc it was you Your skills are insane

[hoary cliff]

LOLLL appreciate you 🫶

trying to get a strong brand identity for a discord bot going because why not

still figuring out the right wording for some of these changes but making mockups for them is fun

[stark kestrel]

Finally someone making an amazing use for components v2

Looks amazing

[hoary cliff]

thank you thank you :p

[humble gyro]

these are fire ngl

[hoary cliff]

haha thank you

only thing i dislike about forwards is the spam lol oops

[unreal mist]

😭😭😭

[unreal mist]

I love seeing others using cv2

[slender wagon]

any idea why requests are like this? nothing changed on my web app it seems somewhere between 10 oct its just been going like this and as u can see the visitors are also stable

and no no config has been changed

they all seem to come from germany as well?

https://tenor.com/view/confused-confusion-meh-bunny-rabbit-gif-19003098

[wheat mesa]

Could be scrapers

[slender wagon]

there is nothing to scrape on my site

[wheat mesa]

Still possible, some scrapers are stupid

I have 6k requests to my site in the last 30 days, and I know for a fact that my teammates and myself aren’t using the production site that often yet

I get a fair chunk of those requests from Germany, France, the Netherlands, and surprisingly Australia

[slender wagon]

i think it correlates with me enabling a feature on cloudflare

im unsure tho

[wheat mesa]

Maybe

[slender wagon]

but 3.4K visitors and 220K requests is absolutely nuts

the users only need to be in the site for like 3 seconds max

[stark kestrel]

That's what scrapers do

[clever tundra]

me when all the autotranslate bots dont work or are very limited/paid:
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExb201b2liYmh1bmhsZjhwdTBwcmVsaDdqZmJ5eG5xZm53aWl3NXF2dyZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/TFPdmm3rdzeZ0kP3zG/giphy.gif

[clever tundra]

success: bot is finished

[rugged dawn]

yoo this looks fire

[lament rock]

Im part of the cv2 alpha testing Discord so this was done a while back. Need to work on improving my UIs a bit more

Ignore the fact that the leaderboard for the economy is insane

[hoary cliff]

thank you

[hoary cliff]

any news on columns coming back to v2 lol

that alignment could be useful tho, depending on how it renders on mobile

[lament rock]

back? There never was any columns. I made a feature request for built in tablification, but they said they're not considering it

[hoary cliff]

i was talking about inline fields, basically columns

[lament rock]

There was no mention for or against it

But I'd imagine not considering they want to control the horizontal real estate and give us control over the vertical

[hoary cliff]

atm logs look very long because stuff cant be side by side

[lament rock]

I just use separators in containers that used to have inline fields as well

Or I can tablify text manually using a combo of regular spaces and zero width spaces inside of code blocks so that the text doesn't get trimmed and the code block kinda forces the text to be a consistent size

but it doesnt look nearly as nice on mobile

[hoary cliff]

yeahh wish they added that specific functionality since they have it for inline buttons/images

[hoary cliff]

i dislike using modals lol, wish these input fields supported multiline natively so i didnt have to do this goofy workaround

[clever tundra]

Don't they do multiline or am I thinking about smth else

[hoary cliff]

i’m not sure about mobile but on desktop they don’t, shift enter does nothing

[clever tundra]

Are you talking about the textinput modal things?

Or the command input boxes

[hoary cliff]

i'm talking about slash command text input fields, since i don't want to use modals

on mobile newlines do work, on desktop they don't

[clever tundra]

Ah

Yeah I don't think they do that on desktop, unless you used models or a send a message kinda thing there's no other way I think

[hoary cliff]

discord moment

[clever tundra]

Literally

Acrually

[hoary cliff]

but i mean this workaround works pretty well lol so its fine

[clever tundra]

Hold on lemme try smth

Nope, didn't work

I was thinking of whether this thing worked on desktop

[hoary cliff]

when you select that menu on desktop it just transforms into the usual input field command and spamming shift enter does nothing haha

[clever tundra]

Yeah I tested it

Sadge

Discord should really do smth like that

Yeah the new modal components are nice but they need to work on the other stuff

It feels like they're trying to phase them out without phasing them out

Prefix commands they're deffo trying to get rid of

[hoary cliff]

yeahhh theres these tiny inconsistencies that you don't really notice but they're a real pain when you happen to need them to work 😭

[hoary cliff]

they rejected my messages intent so i had to scrap prefix commands entirely

[clever tundra]

I really god damn hope they don't reject mine

Pretty much the main feature relies on it

[hoary cliff]

i'm planning to apply again cuz it was right around the time the leak thingy happened and they never replied to my follow-up

[clever tundra]

I never noticed since if I needed smth like that I just always used models or smth else

[clever tundra]

Ahhh

[hoary cliff]

if you explain that it should be fine tbh

[hoary cliff]

modals have horrible UX on mobile, the keyboard covers the submit button and you can't click anywhere on the modal to get it to disappear

that's why i prefer not using them

[clever tundra]

The main thing is a fully configurable listener to check for codes and fetch info on it all, it relies on message content. That and guild members for the dashboard I think, but I can feel that getting rejected

[hoary cliff]

i think if you explain it thoroughly enough you'll be fine

they sent me my mail to get intents approved at like 85 servers and approved it way past 100 so it's kinda slow

[hushed patrol]

Anyone knows a good free bot host?

[swift barn]

https://bot-hosting.net

its technically "free"

[hushed patrol]

I tried it before and didn't work, I'll give it another one

Thanks

[swift barn]

yeahh the word "good" and "free"
not soo much, gotta pay to get something worth it tbh

[hushed patrol]

True, but still no trynna pay idk how much for a discord bot

1st can't 2nd won't

[hushed patrol]

This is ass, you need coins, and there isn't any capacity left, but pay premium node you will have a capacity

Interesting right?

[swift barn]

theres always a catch to these "free" services innit

[swift barn]

or if u have an old pc or something u can host it on there too

[hushed patrol]

Nope😕

I don't even have a pc

Let alone an old one

[hushed patrol]

Ikr

[swift barn]

ig u better wait until there is enough capacity hahahahah
there are cheaper hosts though, but still youd spend money atleast $3 ish+
i think you can host on https://render.com
i think they have a free hobby plan

[hushed patrol]

Render for some reason banned my repo, "it may be against User Policy"

[swift barn]

give it some random repo name lol that really shouldnt be an issue , never gotten banned from render LOL, only service ik ive been banned from is imgur!!

[frosty gale]

if youre willing to deal with some of the shit oracle throws at you upfront you can get 2x 1gb 1 cpu (slow) virtual servers you can comfortably host a bot on, or you can get their arm ampere virtual servers where you can create multiple (or just one) server totalling 4 cores and 24 gb of ram (its really fast), all completely for free always which is amazing, oracle is very competitive with their always free tier

but, they are very annoying to work with initially, you need a debit card upfront of course and they choose to deny your registration for absolutely no reason sometimes (ive had that happen because they didnt like my network), and after you get an account, you have to upgrade it to pay as you go where you pay a refundable $100 i think (you technically dont have to do this but they are known to terminate and prune accounts on only free tier resources if you dont upgrade, ive had it happen), but after that if youre careful not to go over the paid usage you are basically smooth sailing

theres a lot of lore to this but i think its more than worth it in the end if you have at least 100 buckaroos to spend that will get refunded instantly after

[swift barn]

uhhh im technically not the one who needs the host anyways
As for me i personally don’t use oracle as my cloud provider

[frosty gale]

yes but the recommendation is for anyone really

basically an always free fast host

[hushed patrol]

Repo name is "randomname"

[clever tundra]

Hidencloud

I used them for a bit. Better than bothosting where you need ads or coins to renew, instead you just press a button

Maintenance on their site is annoying since they often screw up and make the servers go offline, but the maintenance is rare

Though I always recommend getting smth like a raspberry pi zero 2w and just self hosting

[hushed patrol]

Can't

[hushed patrol]

I'll try it

Thx

[clever tundra]

Sadge

I've been self hosting for a while on a 3b, it works great. I have 3 bots, dashboard, and ngrok all running off it without any issues

Specs / Stats ^

[hushed patrol]

Deff not free right

[clever tundra]

Other than the pi cost, it runs off usb and just needs a WiFi connection

It's like £30 for the pi

I would very much recommend it over any free host online though

[swift barn]

You tried to contact their support?

[hushed patrol]

Yh

[hushed patrol]

Can't

[hushed patrol]

They said it breaks one of them useless ass User Policy shit

It's aint true

[swift barn]

Yeah that’s cooked
You tried this?

https://www.pella.app

[hushed patrol]

I think once also didn't work

I'll try again

[neon flicker]

Is Top.gg still as active?

[deft wolf]

As active as?

[clever tundra]

[d.py] no idea if anyone can help with this, but im using a webhook to send some components v2 and any media which was in a message.
It makes the webhook and does everything ok but when it tries to send it I get the error:
{"message": "Invalid Form Body", "code": 50035, "errors": {"components": {"3": {"items": {"_errors": [{"code": "BASE_TYPE_REQUIRED", "message": "This field is required"}]}}}}}

any help is appreciated
relevant code:

        payload = {
            "components": [
                {"type": 10, "content": f"{ce.flag(detectedlang)} {message.content}"},
                {"type": 14, "divider": True, "spacing": 1},
                {"type": 10, "content": f"{ce.flag('United Kingdom')} {deeplresult.text}"}
            ] + [
                {"type": 12, "media":{"url":media.url},"description":'null',"spoiler":'false'}
                for media in message.attachments
            ],
            "username": webhook.name,
            "avatar_url": webhook.avatar.url if webhook.avatar else None,
            "flags": 32768
        }

        async with aiohttp.ClientSession() as session:
            async with session.post(
                f"https://discord.com/api/v10/webhooks/%7Bwebhook.id%7D/%7Bwebhook.token%7D?with_components=true",
                json=payload
            ) as resp:
                if resp.status != 204:
                    print(await resp.text())

ive tried a bunch of stuff but cant figure out what it wants lol

[solemn latch]

is it possible media.url is null sometimes?

[clever tundra]

It was when trying this, but it's got the for media in message.attatchments so I assumed that would handle jt

If I try and do SMTh like for media in message.attatchments if message.attatchments else None then that screws it up more

Even then, I've tried with attachments and get the same thing

[solemn latch]

👀 This looks like its improperly formatted actually.

media galleries require an items parameter.

https://discord.com/developers/docs/components/reference#media-gallery

[solemn latch]

{"type": 12, "media":{"url":media.url},"description":'null',"spoiler":'false'}
                for media in message.attachments

Would output something like

[
        {
            "type": 12,
            "media": {
                "url": "https://cdn.example.com/image1.png"
            },
            "description": "null",
            "spoiler": "false"
        },
        {
            "type": 12,
            "media": {
                "url": "https://cdn.example.com/gif2.gif"
            },
            "description": "null",
            "spoiler": "false"
        }
]

Which would be a separate gallery for each image(still improperly formatted)

The docs link above should be helpful

[clever tundra]

hmm interesting

[solemn latch]

Let me know if the docs are not enough.

[clever tundra]

i think i understand it

trying smth now

before and after (images)
code:

        payload = {
            "components": [
                {"type": 10, "content": f"{ce.flag(detectedlang)} {message.content}"},
                {"type": 14, "divider": True, "spacing": 1},
                {"type": 10, "content": f"{ce.flag('United Kingdom')} {deeplresult.text}"}
            ] + [
                {"type": 12, "items": [{"media": {"url": media.url}, "description": "Message Image"} for media in message.attachments]}
            ],
            "username": webhook.name,
            "avatar_url": webhook.avatar.url if webhook.avatar else None,
            "flags": 32768
        }

it worked but image has decided to go kaput

i also found that if there is no image i get error
{"message": "Invalid Form Body", "code": 50035, "errors": {"components": {"3": {"items": {"_errors": [{"code": "BASE_TYPE_BAD_LENGTH", "message": "Must be between 1 and 10 in length."}]}}}}}

[solemn latch]

You should do some basic error every time

or just if else it

[clever tundra]

that cant work tho

or hold on

no no i think i realise how to do it now

i was thinking of if elsing inside the payload but because thats bound to end badly and take ages to figure out i just did if message.attachments: payload = ...... else payload = ....

alright welp everything works

i just had a shitty structure

thank you for your help :3

its not over yet... only for multiple images in a message, on pc they show as just infinitely loading until discord says nuh uh and stops, having the failed to load thing. however, on phone, they load perfectly fine instantly

yeah nevermind this is weird asf, its stopped but not stopped but stopped? idfk

[loud canopy]

guys

https://fixupx.com/nyawtism/status/1982245244792909860

nya (@nyawtism)

and now its a PC mod
︀︀(link below)

Quoting Ekical/ekNine (@Ekically)
︀
actually spent 4 hours coding this into a mod

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FixupX · Oct 26, 2025, 12:37 AM

i made a mistake

i wanted to do it for VScode but someone else did it before me so i said fuck it and i made it for the whole pc xd

[hoary cliff]

heat

[unreal granite]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[swift barn]

[old tiger]

Bring ChatGPT back.

[prime cliff]

We'll replace you with chatgpt then

[acoustic tangle]

[old tiger]

Ok, so show me where the ChatGPT app is?

[old tiger]

Hello?

[solemn latch]

https://chatgpt.com

[old tiger]

Ok?

[solemn latch]

Thats where chatgpt is. I'm not really sure what you're asking for.

[sharp saddle]

I believe they're asking for a chatgpt bot for Discord

[last stratus]

hey guys. im getting my bot verified and i use python to run it but it uses discord.Intents.all() as the expected intents, the article says it doesnt give admin. should my bot still be functioning or will it error?

[deft wolf]

Intents and permissions are two different and completely unrelated things

[last stratus]

ah okay im just a moron

[prime cliff]

You should never give all intents (Uses more network, cpu and ram) especially restricted ones likes message content and members.

Intents is what gateway event you want to recieve such as messages, dms, reactions, bans,ect.

Permissions is what access by default you want to have in servers that invite your bot.
Ideally you should never give bots full admin because it can nuke servers.

[last stratus]

hm okay well its a logging and moderation bot. what should i give it then?

[deft wolf]

Depends what are you logging I guess?

[last stratus]

messages like edits or deletes, possibly moderator actions and reactions

[lament rock]

It'd be a good idea to go through the intents list and see which ones are relevant to you. Like you might not need any of the voice related events

Just not receiving some of the events is huge at scale

[proven nymph]

@minor oasis Hello, can you send me a DM once your bot is back online?

[minor oasis]

Will do

[minor oasis]

There is one command that can not be used by other users its called the maintenance mode enabled and disabled command it only works for me as the bot owner

[proven nymph]

As long as the command is restricted to owner only.

It might be a decline if you got an open owner-only command.

[minor oasis]

can I show you in dms what it do I have pictures of it for that command as it used to for when I need to put it into maintenance mode to fix the bot and like that

[proven nymph]

I mean, is it limited to your owner ID because that's all it needs to pass testing?

[minor oasis]

All the other command for ticket setup is for server owners and me but for the maintenance mode enabled and disabled commands so people cant abuse it But I can add your user id to the script to test it though

[proven nymph]

Alright, I understand your meaning. So, if the correct moment arises, I accept that you disable maintenance mode?

[minor oasis]

I can enable and disable the maintenance mode for both fixes or updates so users cant miss with the system

[proven nymph]

But the owner's command is what I'm saying—the moment it's done, for reviewing, it goes back to your owner ID again, correct?

[minor oasis]

Yes

[proven nymph]

Alright then, it's all fine. Just DM or ping me to get your bot reviewed again.

[minor oasis]

ok

[deft wolf]

@solemn latch support scam

[proven nymph]

@shell tundra I need 911 ⏰

[shell tundra]

ty

[crystal wigeon]

is there a way to override the client.users.fetch function?

if (Client.prototype.users) {
    Client.prototype.users.fetch = async function (userId: string) {
        const discordUser = await this.fetch(userId);
        console.log({ discordUser });
        discordUser.username = sanitizeUsername(discordUser.username);
        return discordUser;
    };
}```
I tried this at startup but at this point users doesnt exist so this never gets replaced

[lament rock]

properties aren't initialized until the new keyword is called. You can only assign properties directly to the prototype. Instead, you will need a reference to the typeof Client.users and assign the prototype on that

[crystal wigeon]

gotcha

[wheat mesa]

Why override the prototype and not extend the class to add a getter?

[crystal wigeon]

how do i do that xd

my brain is roasted, havent coded in a long time

😭

i remember class extends something

[wheat mesa]

Something like this work for you?

class CustomUserManager extends UserManager {
async fetch(userId: string, options?: any) {
const discordUser = await super.fetch(userId, options);
discordUser.username = sanitizeUsername(discordUser.username);
console.log({ discordUser });
return discordUser;
}
}

[crystal wigeon]

thanks

but does this actually override the func from client.users.fetch?

i dont think so right? cause im using client.users.fetch everywhere so

[wheat mesa]

Extend the client too ;p

[crystal wigeon]

that’s why I just done it on the prototype too lazy

[wheat mesa]

I almost never modify prototypes, usually means you’re doing something hacky. I’d rather just define my own functionality in a subclass

[crystal wigeon]

Hmm

[wheat mesa]

Much more extensible too, and is easier to debug when something breaks

[quartz kindle]

afaik djs no longer allows class extensions no?

or is this another lib?

[quartz kindle]

hacky is awesome and fun

const ___fetch = Object.getOwnPropertyDescriptor(window, "fetch");
    Object.defineProperty(window, "fetch", {
        value: function() {
            if(arguments[0].includes("HandRaise")) {
                window.postMessage({ source: 'meet-statistics', type: "send", payload: arguments[1].body }, '*');
            }
            // @ts-ignore
            return ___fetch.value.apply(this, arguments);
        }
    });

:^)

[frosty gale]

still looks better than "hacky" approaches to problems in rust

[quartz kindle]

cant even imagin what hacky looks like in rust

[neon leaf]

beauty

[frosty gale]

since rust has a very annoying ownership and borrowing system (to prevent undefined behaviour), you usually have to choose between accepting an unnecessary copy or write a 200+ line file to work around the problem using some fancy rust compile time shenanigans (ive had this happen to me a few times)

or you can hope there is a crate to solve your problem

or you can also opt into using unsafe but even then in some cases unsafe cant save you

[neon leaf]

ah yes, that too

still not possible to use if let properly for this

[frosty gale]

dont you have to mark the entire function as unsafe if you use a single unsafe within one?

[neon leaf]

no

you need to if calling the function with incorrect parameters causes ub

[frosty gale]

ive had some situation happen where rust wouldnt let me use some unsafe resource inside a safe function without also declaring it unsafe, it involved global variables though

actually i think it was that i needed unsafe to access the global variable

[neon leaf]

you need unsafe to access static muts

but you should be able to always use an unsafe block

[frosty gale]

ive ran into a very annoying problem where i had a global variable which had to be initialized at runtime, but i know it will only be initialized once and code accessing it wont access it before that point, so i had to opt into using LazyLock which checks if the value was initialized on every single access

i tried to solve it with unsafe but figured it was more trouble than it was worth, but i do want to revisit it some day

i also didnt want to make an annoying wrapper function for it just to make it safe for other code but i think i might just have to do that

at least i wont incur the cost of checking if it was initialized unnecessarily since the function will be inlined anyawys

[neon leaf]

realistically that check wont matter, the cpu branch predictor will figure it out pretty quickly

depends on what the var is for

[frosty gale]

yeah thats true also, its a very trivial and easily predicted branch

[neon leaf]

yes, though I do use these in some places

#[inline(always)]
#[cold]
fn cold_path() {}

#[inline(always)]
pub fn likely(b: bool) -> bool {
    if b {
        true
    } else {
        cold_path();
        false
    }
}

#[inline(always)]
pub fn unlikely(b: bool) -> bool {
    if b {
        cold_path();
        true
    } else {
        false
    }
}

famously also used in the hashmap impl for 15% speed improvements or something

https://github.com/rust-lang/hashbrown/pull/631/files

[frosty gale]

that is very surprising, even more surprising that this likely/unlikely implementation works since i would expect the compiler to just optimize it away entirely where it wont make an impact

i see its trying to encourage the compiler to make the likely case the fallthrough path since predictors are more likely to pick it

[neon leaf]

yes

and the compiler fully follows this, even in cases where this would be suboptimal

not sure about unlikely(true) though

i could imagine that being optimized away

[near ether]

how come my users consistently run into this "uh oh" error when visiting my bot's store? it works sometimes and displays the store correctly, but other times it doesnt

[deft wolf]

Sounds like a question for discord support

[steel oxide]

i had this same issue with an old project of mine

the only solution i found to reliably display products

was using the "product" type button components

[near ether]

I actually think I figured it out last night! I had to fiddle around with the bot’s discovery settings and disable -> enable it and now it works perfectly

I used to have direct product type buttons but those disappeared for mobile users so I stuck with links

[steel oxide]

that's great to hear

[steel oxide]

anyway yeah this was super annoying

so i try to use my own payment processors as much as i can 🤣

[near ether]

Yup!! I’m seriously considering doing the same😂

[cosmic ginkgo]

000

[clever tundra]

[stark kestrel]

@solemn latch all channels

[solemn latch]

tyty

[eternal osprey]

hey everyone

do hyperlinks work in embeds?

Aka, ..

[swift barn]

yes mostly in the description field though

[proud galleon]

[frosty gale]

its probably because the negative weight of the cold_path method (marked as cold) somehow propagates onto the condition itself, compilers do some weird stuff when inlining methods and eliminating dead code so it probably has some rules for hints like cold to propagate onto the condition

although it wont be needed anymore since nightly added in std::intrinsics::likely

probably does something similar under the hood but with a guarantee that it will actually always hint instead of potentially breaking in future llvm/rust versions

[neon leaf]

who needs simplicity when you can minimize heap allocations ‼️

[radiant kraken]

am i dumb or what the fuck is going on here

[radiant kraken]

nevermind fixed it (somehow)

[neon leaf]

free actions, github? say no more!

[frosty gale]

i just run gitea and have 2 action runners hosted for free on oracle

ez free action runners

[neon leaf]

well i would if I had proper arm and mac hardware

realistically even with my own hw these builds wouldnt get much faster either

its rust with all optimizations cranked

like literally everything

takes 3min with cached deps on 9900x

[frosty gale]

mines only takes around 39 seconds if the deps and cargo install is cached

but yeah its incredibly annoying getting rust action runners to be fast

i dont have almost as much trouble with c++ and js codebases

[neon leaf]

this is peak slowness

but I need the small bin size

I cant ship 50mb to prod

22mb with this

[neon leaf]

I mean js isnt really compiled is it

[frosty gale]

are you building the binary in action runners?

[frosty gale]

it isnt but meant more like vite projects where i have to build a frontend, though yeah it would be naturally faster anyways

i dont even bother caching the npm installs because its so fast anyways

[neon leaf]

yes

[frosty gale]

though thats for a svelte codebase if it was react id probably be waiting 5 minutes for the npm install to finish

[frosty gale]

ah do you also have them automatically add a release? then that makes sense instead of just running cargo check

[neon leaf]

yea I release every commit

still in development so makes it easier

[barren warren]

Hi

[neon leaf]

thanks rust 1.91.0

[woven sigil]

hey can someone help me set up a vote-tracking system for server? dm me or reply if you can help, thanks

[woven sigil]

Umm anyone?

[shell tundra]

handling in #topgg-api

[clever tundra]

i would like to share this vsc extension as a time saver for making embeds, used to use a web based designer but this is quicker
this is not self promotion or promotion
https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=EthicalProgrammer.discord-embed

[unreal mist]

we now have prefilled icons :D

and yes its the exact same grid from my dashboard 😂

[unreal mist]

i gave it a task bar icon

[unreal mist]

its slowly coming together, buttons only log to console rn!

[unreal mist]

@errant musk it sure is getting there 👀

[errant musk]

Hell yesss dude 🔥🔥 it’s looking good!!

[unreal mist]

font? yes

[unreal mist]

difficulty selector

[unreal mist]

it now generates prefilled based on min/max values for each difficulty (and you can change difficulty!)

can also select a theme, but right now that doesnt do anything

[errant musk]

YESSSS 🔥🔥🔥

[quartz kindle]

nice

[frosty gale]

dokusu

but is it AI Powered™

that phrase makes me sick

[unreal mist]

toastoku desktop app :D

it now generates solveable puzzles

[frosty gale]

i like how the rust people anticipated people accidentally using %s for strings instead of {} so they added a warning

[neon leaf]

they do the same for ternaries

literally parse them just to show u an error

[unreal mist]

heading

i still need to add the ability to play it

[clever tundra]

i think the buttons should be like toastified or smth

or smth should be done to em

[unreal mist]

oh yeah definitely

[clever tundra]

like merging the left and right bits

dropdowns and stuff

[unreal mist]

im planning to work on buttons and the stats at the bottom once its playable

[clever tundra]

[compact condor]

[barren warren]

@steel oxide Hey, have you ever worked with spotify api?

[steel oxide]

unfortunately not sorry

[barren warren]

aw

anyone else here?

[frosty gale]

what do you need

its just an api so should be pretty straight forward

[barren warren]

I'm getting an error every time I use the api, like for instance, I was coding a command to fetch similar artists, but every time I try to run the command, it gives back a 404 error.

[frosty gale]

you have to be a bit more specific like providing the URLs you are trying to fetch, 404 usually means it cant find whatever url you are querying on the spotify api

[barren warren]

Wait. I'll send you the error

Error in similar-artists command: http status: 404, code: -1 - https://api.spotify.com/v1/artists/711MCceyCBcFnzjGY4Q7Un/related-artists:
 Not Found, reason: None```

ping me in your reply (as I'm going offline)

[frosty gale]

was doing some digging and found this https://developer.spotify.com/blog/2024-11-27-changes-to-the-web-api

they removed related artists api route completely

as a sort of workaround you can fetch the artist and get their genres

then you can use the search api to search for one (or more) of those genres and thats how you can sort of get similar artists

[barren warren]

Ooohh, thankkk youu soo much @frosty gale

[lyric mountain]

bread?

[unreal mist]

It’s toast xD

[lyric mountain]

lul

[unreal mist]

I hand drew them

[prime cliff]

💀 github just shoved AI on the homepage
Why is there no feature preview to turn this off

[valid sparrow]

[compact condor]

they moved feed to a seperate thing aswell

[prime cliff]

That's the new home exprience you can turn that off in feature previews

[compact condor]

oh didn't know

[unreal mist]

If it helps Firefox constantly tries pushing ai onto me when I open it

[prime cliff]

I use floorp (firefox fork) so i don't have to deal with that 🙂

[clever tundra]

NOOOOOOO

NOT GITHUB

[clever tundra]

does it

i use firefox as my daily driver and i havent had a hint of ai

[prime cliff]

Looks like you can turn it off but it's worded weirdly https://github.com/settings/copilot/features

[deft wolf]

Time to disable it then

[unreal mist]

Yeah it keeps popping up in the corner saying I can use AI to do xyz

[clever tundra]

weird

i dont have that at all

[unreal mist]

Luckily it’s not really that annoying since it’s like the smallest popup ever 😂

[frosty gale]

it doesnt make it better that github copilot is the more mid ai coding agents

[wooden ember]

tryed using the vc command on my bot for the first time in a while and it doesn't work now? I have changed nothing at all in a couple years now. This is the error I have:

I did install the sodium wrapper as the answer on stack overflow suggested but that has done nothing

[wooden ember]

had to update something and then install soething called dave?

[frosty gale]

if i remember discord recently announced that they are requiring end to end encryption on their voice channels, so looks like that changed is live just recently, so your existing code might not work, that stack overflow answer is probably years old too

did you update discord.js to latest?

[wooden ember]

Yeah i think thats what the DAVE thing was I had to install was. I just updated the voice library cuz I'm guessing if I update the core d.js library i will have to rewrite my code again.

[frosty gale]

rust compiler goes real quiet once i pull out this bad boy

[compact condor]

#[allow(dead_code)] 😭

[neon leaf]

#[allow(clippy::too_many_arguments)] >>>

[quartz kindle]

guys, i need help

im working part time for a small company, and their lead developer just quit, and they need me to inherit his source code temporarily while they figure stuff out

its ASP.net core 8 i think?

no idea how to work with it, how to compile it, how to test it or how to upload it to the webhost lmao

[wheat mesa]

Install Visual Studio and select .NET development with ASP.NET (or whatever the ASP option is)

Open the solution with visual studio

Set the startup project to be whatever project has the Program.cs file in it

[quartz kindle]

visual studio community 2022 right?

[wheat mesa]

Yeah that works

There will be a green “play” button at the top where you can launch after setting the startup project. It might say “IIS Express” or “http” or “https”, it really just depends on their setup

[quartz kindle]

do i need any other optional things from the installation details?

[wheat mesa]

Uhhhhh .NET Framework is really old

[quartz kindle]

gonna remove copilot lmao

[wheat mesa]

Is there a .NET Core option?

Framework is like mid 2000s to early 2010s

[quartz kindle]

this is all there is

[wheat mesa]

Odd, there wasn’t a setup wizard that had icons or anything like that?

[quartz kindle]

this is the visual studio community 2022 install screen

[wheat mesa]

Ah okay that should be fine, the pack should include .net core

You probably already have it installed through some other program, which is fine

Just continue with that installation

[quartz kindle]

alright

they sent me the source code in a zip file, it contains a .sln and a folder, and in the folder a program.cs

[wheat mesa]

You should be able to open the .sln file with visual studio

[quartz kindle]

then for uploading it to the webhost, do i compile it on my pc, and upload the compiled files to the host?

its a plesk panel windows host

[wheat mesa]

Uhhhh it’s going to depend largely on your setup. Personally when I deploy, I use docker containers, but I imagine yours is different

I’ll look it up and see if I can get any info for you

[quartz kindle]

the only thing they gave me was access to this webpanel

i can use files/ftp/etc

[wheat mesa]

You can compile with like dotnet publish “YourProject.csproj” -c Release -o your/output/dir

Which will compile a dll that can be run with dotnet OutputDll.dll

Are you familiar with Docker? I’ll send my usual dockerfile setup here so you can take a look at how it builds in release mode.

(You don’t have to use docker but you can still see the build process)

FROM mcr.microsoft.com/dotnet/aspnet:8.0 AS base
WORKDIR /app
EXPOSE 8080

FROM mcr.microsoft.com/dotnet/sdk:8.0 AS build
WORKDIR /src

COPY ["DisasterAnalysis/DisasterAnalysis.csproj", "DisasterAnalysis/"]
RUN dotnet restore "DisasterAnalysis/DisasterAnalysis.csproj"

COPY . .
WORKDIR "/src/DisasterAnalysis"
RUN dotnet build "DisasterAnalysis.csproj" -c Release -o /app/build

FROM build AS publish
RUN dotnet publish "DisasterAnalysis.csproj" -c Release -o /app/publish

FROM base AS final
WORKDIR /app
COPY --from=publish /app/publish .
ENTRYPOINT ["dotnet", "DisasterAnalysis.dll"]

It might differ a little bit based on your setup. The way .NET projects work is that there is usually a "Solution", which contains many "Projects". This dockerfile setup is just compiling one project, since I only have one project for my actual API for this case, and one project for my tests (which aren't included in this process since I'm not running tests on deployment, that's a job for CI)

[quartz kindle]

they dont use docker afaik

its just a windows shared hosting

[wheat mesa]

Yeah I figured

[quartz kindle]

i dont see any settings for starting/stopping the asp.net server, i'll need to test if uploading new files would trigger some kind of auto-restart

[wheat mesa]

If you upload new files, you have to recompile

[quartz kindle]

i have to recompile in my pc, then upload the compiled dlls

[wheat mesa]

Yeah, or you could rebuild on the host if that’s more convenient to use something like a private git repo

[quartz kindle]

this is what i have access to

[wheat mesa]

Oh I’ve never used that before

[quartz kindle]

its a basic shared webhost lol

[wheat mesa]

Google is saying that you can use that dotnet publish command I suggested earlier, zip up the output files, upload it to Plesk, extract it into the “httpdocs” folder (idk what that is), and configure the application settings on Plesk:

Application root: Specify the directory where your application’s files reside
Document Root: Static content (wwwroot for asp.net core)
Application Startup File: YourApp.dll

All of that sounds about right

[quartz kindle]

the application settings are in place i believe, but i dont see any way to run a publish command

[wheat mesa]

You’d run it in the terminal on your pc to compile it

dotnet publish “YourProject.csproj” -c Release -o /your/output/dir

This generates the DLL and any other files you need

Then you’d zip that output up, transfer it to Plesk, unzip in the right place (whatever your configuration points to), and voila

[quartz kindle]

alright ill give it a go

i was just confused if the server would auto restart on file change, but it seems it does

[wheat mesa]

I think there’s a way to do this in Visual Studio itself but I’m just more familiar with the cmd line for this process

[quartz kindle]

more specifically, it seems that modifying web.config will cause an auto-restart

AI to the rescue lol

[wheat mesa]

Yeah it’s pretty useful for deployment

Especially since a lot of these smaller companies have janky non-standard configurations

[prime cliff]

Silly Waffle it's called .NET now not .NET Core

[wheat mesa]

Man they change it every 3 years

I can’t keep track anymore

[quartz kindle]

lmao

[frosty gale]

it used to be that .net framework was windows only with stuff like windows api and windows forms and core was cross platform but they merged it all into one now

[wheat mesa]

If you’re ever working on a .net framework app then I pity you

Been there and done that

[quartz kindle]

alright i opened the project in VS, now i need to figure out how to fix the bug they asked me to

xD

[prime cliff]

You can use the FTP to publish using visual studio

[wheat mesa]

Is it a web api or is it a full MVC app?

[prime cliff]

There is also the Web Deploy Config?

[wheat mesa]

Honestly I started off my asp.net journey on an MVC app running on .NET 6. Even though the code was garbage, I fell in love with asp.net as a whole. Really awesome framework

[prime cliff]

Yea MVC is still nice and useful but i've switched to fully using blazor

[wheat mesa]

I absolutely despise razor pages, haven’t tried blazor though. Asp is great when you use it with an SPA

[quartz kindle]

full mvc app

[prime cliff]

Tim you should see a build publish option, create a FTP profile with the settings, then publish using that

[quartz kindle]

this just downloads a .appsettings file

ok i fixed the bug and running an IIS test server now

[wheat mesa]

Dang, must’ve been an easy bug lol

[quartz kindle]

welp

[quartz kindle]

yeah the previous dev did an incorrect rounding of a certain value, used Math.round with 3 digits instead of 2

[prime cliff]

Looks like your configuration has some things in appsettings.json or appsetings.Development.json that is causing that network path

[wheat mesa]

^^

Configuration is a dictionary that is typically read from an appsettings.json file or appsettings.[ENVIRONMENT].json file

[quartz kindle]

hmm i think its looking for the mysql database locally

not sure if the database runs alongside the project

or if i would need to run it separately

[wheat mesa]

Separately usually

Do you have a connection string in the appsettings? Also, I think that exception you showed is the result of it not finding an appsettings file, not just a mysql db

[quartz kindle]

yeah there is a connection string in appsettings

im gonna copy the string from the production appsettings

[wheat mesa]

Uhh

Probably not a good idea

I’d imagine that your prod db and development db should be different

[quartz kindle]

probably, but its just for testing

or i can just "test in production" :^)

i mean, realistically what could happen just from changing a single int and then recompiling?

[wheat mesa]

You might have bootstrapping processes that do something on startup like creating an admin account with a default username and password

[quartz kindle]

hmm

[wheat mesa]

For one of my projects, my prod db is not directly accessible (since it’s running inside a docker container network), so I can’t create an admin account manually. Therefore, I have a section of my appsettings that specifies the admin account info and it’ll create the user if it doesn’t exist on startup

Not a super common configuration but it’s def possible

[quartz kindle]

all i was tasked to do was to open the source files, fix the issue with the rounding error and update the website
i already fixed the issue in the source code, now to apply it to the website is where im at, i dont want to accidentally screw something up

[wheat mesa]

I mean it’s possible that they don’t have a dev database. Does the connection string look for something locally running or is it an actual host somewhere?

Use your own judgement, I doubt it would be an issue but just warning of the dangers :p

I’ve had times at my work where I use the prod db

Just depends on your setup

[quartz kindle]

the development connection string looks like this

Server=WK-HTS0380;Database=StarSeeds2;Trusted_Connection=True;MultipleActiveResultSets=true;TrustServerCertificate=true

[prime cliff]

Me when i SSH and route my ports from server to local so i can access them 🙂

[wheat mesa]

Yeah I can still access my prod db through that, but it’s just a hassle

[quartz kindle]

ok i generated the publish folder, now im gonna try uploading it to the host

gonna made a full backup of the old files first

[frosty gale]

at my job we have a dev database but its almost never used we usually just use the live db

we have to justify that overpriced veeam backup cost somehow

[neon leaf]

hearing veeam gives me ptsd

monitoring like 200 windows servers is my current nightmare

[quartz kindle]

jesus

how is this project nearly 200mb zipped lol

[wheat mesa]

that's massive

[quartz kindle]

oh this is why

[wheat mesa]

my entire docker image for my backend is 90mb lol

[quartz kindle]

lol

[neon leaf]

big

[quartz kindle]

is this why it is generating all those runtimes?

[frosty gale]

ah did you enable the self contained option?

that will bundle the runtime in the final build

[frosty gale]

yes i think so

set it to your target (probably windows 64) and disable self contained if its checked

[quartz kindle]

its set to framework-dependent

target framework net8.0

[wheat mesa]

big as in "good" or big as in "that's too big of a size"

[frosty gale]

that should use your system .net then

[neon leaf]

well I think 90mb is still barely fine

I try to keep mine under 30mb

[wheat mesa]

Yeah you shouldn't be using self contained since the host already has the runtime installed (I'm assuming)

[wheat mesa]

Not much more I can do to get it under. Needs the .net runtime, it's not native code

[neon leaf]

yea

[quartz kindle]

according to the asp.net settings in the plesk panel, the framework version is 4.8.0

[neon leaf]

though I did end up causing this

to be fair the bin does include tons of images

[wheat mesa]

Maybe you DO need self contained lol

[quartz kindle]

idk, lmao

[frosty gale]

just keep it on then it just means the builds are fat

[quartz kindle]

idk because on the plan page it says
.Net Core 9.0,8.x, 7.x, 6.x
ASP.NET Frameworks 4.x, 3.x & 2.x

so maybe 4.8.0 refers to asp.net and visual studio is refering to net core 8.0?

is a webdeploy .publishsettings file something i can add to visual studio to automate uploading the files?

[prime cliff]

4.8.0 is the old .net framework

Followed by .NET Core 1 - 3 which then got changed to just .NET 5+

[quartz kindle]

this is what i have in the plesk panel

[frosty gale]

oh right thats asp net

thats almost the latest version then

asp net is the web framework library sorta like express but on sterioids

[quartz kindle]

so it has nothing to do with net8.0 that is set in visual studio

[frosty gale]

no thats just the library so youre all up to date

[quartz kindle]

im testing different build options in visual studio just to get a feel for it

i didnt try uploading the actual files yet

[prime cliff]

Why would it even show that though it's very confusing

[quartz kindle]

is single file executable worth it?

[frosty gale]

it leads to longer builds but its your choice, if its an app youre distributing to people you should probably go for single file, otherwise go for regular where it dumps all dll's in a directory with the exe

[quartz kindle]

what about ready2run?

[frosty gale]

never used it tbh but reading on it it basically precompiles some of your code so the net runtime doesnt have to do it while JIT compiling

you can but apparently it will increase your final build size by a lot

the JIT will probably do a good enough job anyways caching bytecode so its probably unnecessary here

some of it physically cant be precompiled so it most likely wont even precompile the entire program

[quartz kindle]

and trim unused code? the logs show some trim warnings when i enable this

[frosty gale]

what warning?

[neon leaf]

peak code

class Request(_data) {
    let _head = string#slice(_data, 0, string#index_of(_data, "\n"))

    let _method = string#slice(_head, 0, string#index_of(_head, " "))
    let _method_len = string#len(_method)
    _method_len++

    let _end_slice = string#len(_head)
    _end_slice -= 10

    let _path = string#slice(_head, _method_len, _end_slice)
    let _path_query = string#index_of(_path, "?")
    _path_query++
    let _query = ""
    if (_path_query <= string#len(_path)) {
        _query = string#slice(_path, _path_query, string#len(_path))
        _path_query--
        _path = string#slice(_path, 0, _path_query)
    }

    let _headers = []
    let lines = string#split(_data, "\n")

    let i = 1
    let header = []
    loop {
        let line = array#get(lines, i)
        if not (string#trim(line)) {
            break
        }

        let key = string#slice(line, 0, string#index_of(line, ":"))
        let key_len = string#len(key)
        key_len += 2
        let value = string#slice(line, key_len, string#len(line))

        let header = array#clone([])
        array#set(header, 0, key)
        array#set(header, 1, value)
        array#push(_headers, header)

        i++
    }

    fn method(self) {
        return _method
    }

    fn headers_get(self, key, default) {
        let result = default
        let i = 0

        loop {
            let header = array#get(_headers, i)
            if not (header) {
                break
            }

            let _key = array#get(header, 0)
            if (_key === key) {
                result = array#get(header, 1)
                break
            }

            i++
        }

        return result
    }

    fn path(self) {
        return _path
    }

    fn query(self) {
        return _query
    }
}

[quartz kindle]

idk im building without it rn. it was something like "trim() generated warnings, check <something> for more info"

[stark kestrel]

what atrocity language is that

[neon leaf]

https://github.com/0x7d8/bad-lang-2

the name explains itself

its beautiful

[stark kestrel]

[quartz kindle]

get one step ahead of other languages and make string#slice accept string parameters that automatically call index_of behind the scenes

string#slice(_data, 0, "\n");
``` why dont other languages support this

[neon leaf]

i mean it kills readability doesnt it

(in general, not here for um obvious reasons)

also u can do this peak

[frosty gale]

i was about to also ask wtf is this language

[frosty gale]

but not in a bad way so i think that bodes well for you

[neon leaf]

good

[frosty gale]

my first impression was a mix of js and rust

if they had a baby

[quartz kindle]

nice xD

[neon leaf]

that is what it was meant to be inspired from

it wasnt a good birth

[lyric mountain]

spaces in method names became a taboo after the nasa catastrophe, back in fortran days

[neon leaf]

this too

[quartz kindle]

welp

[lyric mountain]

https://martinsteffen.github.io/compilerconstruction/lexicalfortran/

[lyric mountain]

for the catastrophe thing

[quartz kindle]

ah, apparently this was turned on lol

[quartz kindle]

i get a ton of these when i enable trim unused code

Warning IL2104: Assembly 'Microsoft.EntityFrameworkCore.Relational' produced trim warnings. For more information see https://aka.ms/dotnet-illink/libraries

anyway trim unused only shows up if i set it to self-contained, im gonna try framework-dependent and see if it works

[frosty gale]

im not a .net guru but i can assume that in some cases the runtime/bytecode generator cant know for sure if a library function is actually unused or not so it could mistakenly get rid of functions that are actually used which will break your program

you can prob disable it if youre unsure

ive never ran into these before so im not sure what crack your jobs codebase is on

[quartz kindle]

neither do i

setting it to frame-work dependent make it 80mb instead of 120mb+

lets see if this works

this plesk file manager is abysmally slow though

it takes like 2min to delete files and replace them with the new ones

apparently its working fine for now

reduced project size from 200mb to 80mb lol

[frosty gale]

sounds worse than ftp

[quartz kindle]

it definitely is

and its not even transferring anything

i upload the zip, i unzip the zip