development

[eternal osprey]

hey guys i am trying to create an image classification model.
It's a model that basically should classify images into a few categories:

1. Adults, 2. Children, 3. All, 4. Inappropriate
   What do you guys suggest, shall i create it from scratch? This will need a hella big dataset... and well there's gonna be some sketchy ahh images in there as well to test the innapropriate label.

May there instead be a pre-defined model that i could download and use online?

[lament rock]

Flagging explicit material is still very much an ongoing battle because of how diverse it all is. I would very highly suggest against trying to do it yourself and to not rely on any service that does it too much as there will always be stuff that slips past

[eternal osprey]

mmhmm yeah exactly thats true.

i don't necessarily need anything that's gonna be 100% accurate

The thing i need is also very specific, so i dont even think i can use pre-built models

as well, they are all trained for a specific set of labels.

so i MIGHT have to do it myself anyways..

[next storm]

how to get started with creating a custom RPC with 2 buttons using js?

[warm surge]

@next storm

oh i miss read it

[warm surge]

this is my old code for RPC (pulled out of my friend dm) ```const RPC = require('discord-rpc'); // npm i discord-rpc
const rpc = new RPC.Client({ transport: 'ipc' });

rpc.on('ready', () => {

    rpc.setActivity({
        details: '',
        state: ``,
        largeImageKey: '',
        largeImageText: 'Invite Virsa',
        buttons: [
            {
                label: `Invite`, url: ''
            },
            {
              label: `Support`, url: ''
          }
            ] // you can remove buttons, yes but you cant add more than two
    })
console.log('Authed for user', rpc.user.username);

});

rpc.login({clientId: '' })
.catch((err) => {
console.error("An error has occurred:", err);
})```

if you got a API with your bot here

just change stuff

[next storm]

it shows this:

An error has occurred: Error: Could not connect
    at Socket.onerror (D:\dr\node_modules\discord-rpc\src\transports\ipc.js:32:16)
    at Object.onceWrapper (node:events:634:26)
    at Socket.emit (node:events:519:28)
    at emitErrorNT (node:internal/streams/destroy:169:8)
    at emitErrorCloseNT (node:internal/streams/destroy:128:3)
    at process.processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:82:21)```

ah damn, working now, didn't use desktop version smh

btw, how to make this automated? @warm surge

[warm surge]

wdym

[next storm]

like if I want to use this then I've to always run this code so that the Rich Presence is visible'

can't this be automated

[warm surge]

yes

[next storm]

can it be?

[warm surge]

use pm2

https://pm2.keymetrics.io/

[next storm]

if I restart my pc then

again I've to run

;-;

[warm surge]

yes

or even restarting discord

[next storm]

what do you use personally?

for the RPC

[warm surge]

like code or?

[next storm]

not code, for automation

[warm surge]

i dont, you have to start it when you want use it but use pm2 so you dont have keep vscode running in the background

[next storm]

umm okay

[next storm]

this is my start.bat inside the folder where index.js is present. Is it correct?:

@echo off
cd /d %~dp0
pm2 start index.js```

like what happening is that on opening the bat file, it opens the command prompt, and closes it instantly, though the RPC works, but the problem is it gets stuck in a loop where it opens and closes command prompt continuously

[warm surge]

You don’t need start.bat

open your cmd

Cd whatever you have it at

and type

pm2 start index.js

[next storm]

@warm surge this is happening

Idk why a separate terminal is opening and closing in a loop

[warm surge]

pm2 log 0

[next storm]

ah wait

@warm surge

[warm surge]

its working

[next storm]

yeah but why the terminal is behaving like that

[warm surge]

idk

[next storm]

;-;

any fix for that?

[warm surge]

it doesnt do that with me so idk

[next storm]

like is it because of any config of pm2 or something

[warm surge]

nope

[next storm]

ugh

[delicate zephyr]

pm2 logs --raw

if you want raw logs with out the 0/index |

[next storm]

no no that's not the issue, once check this video #development message

I want to fix that opening and closing loop of terminal

[delicate zephyr]

thats powershell and pm2

maximize it then going into logs

[next storm]

what

[warm surge]

maximize your cmd and log it

[delicate zephyr]

^

[next storm]

you want to me to maximize the command prompt, and then run the above cmd?

[delicate zephyr]

yes

wait, are you trying to build a rich presence that stays on all the time for your discord?

[next storm]

yes

[delicate zephyr]

you know that you're reinventing the wheel right

[next storm]

wdym

[delicate zephyr]

https://www.customrp.xyz/

this literally exists

[next storm]

is it safe?

[delicate zephyr]

it's open source and used by plenty of people, scan it with your anti-virus and slam it in virus total if you're that worried

[warm surge]

oh yea

probably on window safe mode

[delicate zephyr]

nah they just havent signed the exe

[warm surge]

ik

[next storm]

ah damn, my code was ready lol

nvm

will use this app instead

[feral aspen]

Can anyone sign a .exe although (supposedly) it's a virus?

[split owl]

guys how do I fix 429 rate limit error
discord.errors.HTTPException: 429 Too Many Requests (error code: 0)

i've changed my code like adding timeouts on commands and cooldowns between api requests but this error still keeps popping up

edit: i have a vps and dont host it on a common IP so the error shouldnt be because of that

on the most recent error it literally rate limited my bot because of my /help command that has 0 api requests

[harsh nova]

Yes but it'd still be untrusted as the cert is not from a trusted upstream certification company

I think there's some program where you pay windows to be listed as a trusted certifier but the process is likely involved and they have ur legal name

[feral aspen]

Can anyone get the certificate from said company or is there a process to receive it in the end?

[feral aspen]

Aha, fair enough 😂

[harsh nova]

99% sure there's a process with guards against viruses

[raven nexus]

how could i make it work? it still like this i want to add it everything

[quartz kindle]

the error is coming from src/distube.js line 12

is this the file you are showing?

[raven nexus]

i try to combine every thing into index

[quartz kindle]

in the file you showed, you have require("./distube"); so distube.js is still being used

if you dont need it anymore, remove that line

[raven nexus]

ok

i want to know is distube run by lavalink

or no?

[quartz kindle]

i dont know, you can check their npm page or github page

[raven nexus]

after i restart i keep getting this

[lyric mountain]

you shouldn't, this will make the bot nigh unmaintainable in the long run

index is supposed to be just the entrypoint, alas why it's called index

[thorn torrent]

Hello, I have a question. How can I have a reward for voting like the rest of the bots?

[digital swan]

Use the webhook

[crystal wigeon]

anyone here build microservices?

[solemn latch]

I've microserviced one thing to make it easier to do high availability.
Still never deployed it, still finalizing stuff.

[crystal wigeon]

ohw, nice.

wait are you the same woo who got married

[solemn latch]

No, unless I married maggie and didn't know

[crystal wigeon]

lmao nvm it was another guy

[wheat mesa]

confusing the W’s

[crystal wigeon]

yess

it was waffle

lol

[solemn latch]

You're married waffle?

[crystal wigeon]

anyway @wheat mesa last we spoke you were working on your own startup no? just wondering, what are all the services you are building

yea recently

[solemn latch]

Why wasn't I invited

[crystal wigeon]

so i been working on this idea - marketplace for microservices. where you could find production ready backend services that you could plug-n-play. It helps people ship their products faster.
You also own the code so its fully customizable.

And for devs you can build your own service and sell it on the marketplace

[wheat mesa]

Yessirrr

[wheat mesa]

Don’t worry you’ll be invited to the wedding ❤️

[crystal wigeon]

i wanted some feedback and tryna figure out what backend stuff people usually re-build. so i can offer it to them saving a lotta time. like oauth servcie for example

and payments

[wheat mesa]

Haven’t worked on it a lot yet, been super busy

Payments are something you outsource to another company

If you tried to handle transactions by yourself that’s already a startup in itself

[crystal wigeon]

yeah but like if you were to integrate with paypal,. or stripe

you build a backend

no no, its a backend service with all the integrations basically

that gets you setup quick so you can focus on business logic

[wheat mesa]

Personally I have never made a microservice. I have not done a lot of deployment or anything like that, still have a lot to learn there

[crystal wigeon]

so you dont waste time setting the usual things. like oauth, payments, file management. code deployment

mhm

but you get the idea no? you have everything tailored and ready to use.

And if you are a dev you can build and sell your backend service that many people would use. if its robust enough

[wheat mesa]

I get the idea but this really sounds more like a software contracting company

[crystal wigeon]

its more like rapid api

but here you get full access to code. and can customize

you own everything

like a boilerplate

once we have a landing page ready it might shed more clarity. but yeah. tryna see what services people are using in their projects. some might be useful to others as well

[solemn latch]

I like the idea, I just don't know how valuable it is for most people.

I feel like some polls on public forums to figure out of there's an audience for it may help. Make a poll on a few reddit forums and twitter.

[crystal wigeon]

right, can you share your email with me, so i can get you on the waitlist?

i mean people have bought ship fast boilerplate

which is not secure at all

so im sure people would use it to help them build faster

but yea. do you have any reddit channel recommendations?

dropped you a dm

sent you both a dm

[crystal wigeon]

what kinda backend service would you like to see btw?

dont htink too hard, just throw what comes to mind 😂

[solemn latch]

One of the things that takes me awhile is secure internal database API calls.

IE, have a microservice that has an API that has the sole purpose of doing database calls.

I just have a boilerplate that I use these days.

[crystal wigeon]

can you elaborate? wouldn't that depend on where you host it? like if you use GCP sql and you use cloud run, you dont have to expose the DB they will internally map everything

A backend service for secure internal DB calls. hmm not sure how that works

btw its also not just limited to js

[solemn latch]

Mines written in GO these days, yeah.

[solemn latch]

With microservices all of them will be deployment type specific.

Assuming you want this to be a marketplace you'll want tags for different deployment enviorments.

[crystal wigeon]

mhm

[crystal wigeon]

can you share your boilerplate with me so i get an idea?

the deployment im writing will like support different platforms like gcp, aws, flyio

[tidal pendant]

Can someone explain to me what the decorators in python actually are ?

[solemn latch]

https://realpython.com/primer-on-python-decorators/

Seems like a complex topic

[tidal pendant]

Thanks 😊👍

[solemn latch]

Looks like at the most simple level, its a function in a function.

[tidal pendant]

Oh

[sharp geyser]

All decorators are technically just functions that return a function afaik

Functions basically the same in typescript as well

the outer function takes in arguments, the inner one is supposed to modify what its used on while having access to these outer arguments

[solemn latch]

It seems really useful for debugging

https://realpython.com/primer-on-python-decorators/#debugging-code

A simple @debug just adds debug code to any function.

[sharp geyser]

yuh

decorators if used properly are very handy

that debug decorator is a bit more on the complex side

[eternal osprey]

hmmmm???

[cobalt tinsel]

bro

how to get our bot online 24 hours?

[deft wolf]

Rent a VPS and host your bot there

[earnest phoenix]

welcome to sequoia

[frosty gale]

move to trash and install rust

[quasi hinge]

My bot was declined for not having features or commands... But it does. Who can I talk to?

[small tangle]

Or use a raspberry pi to host it

[deft wolf]

Send a DM to the person who checked your bot

[bitter granite]

prob me

[earnest phoenix]

https://github.com/dockur/windows

lmao

[primal fog]

Hey fellow developers. Do you think a discord bot can still be profitable in 2024?
I am not building another moderation, all-in-one, AI or anime bot so I believe its sort of unique

Question is do bots make money nowadays

[bitter granite]

there is alot more way that is eazyer to learn money then making a discord bot

[wheat mesa]

A job will make you more money than a discord bot will

[warm surge]

indeed

i got no job beside school paying me

[sage bobcat]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[warm surge]

^

[deft wolf]

Discord bot is more like a hobby, in 99% of cases you just pay extra for it or you are even

[sage bobcat]

One message removed from a suspended account.

One message removed from a suspended account.

[warm surge]

plus

discord payments rates are shit

[bitter granite]

agree, you are only hoping for donos

[deft wolf]

https://tenor.com/br7HH.gif

[warm surge]

not even then

[bitter granite]

and you have to deal with dumb support

[warm surge]

discord takes half or even more of money you earned

[primal fog]

I am a swe myself I just thinking on doing it on the side for fun

[bitter granite]

thats why you are hoping for dono

[primal fog]

But I guess 2021 covid was the time to do it

[warm surge]

nah

[bitter granite]

worse

[warm surge]

thats would be worse

[bitter granite]

would be better precovid

[primal fog]

I thought that everyone being at home would increase discord traffic no?

[bitter granite]

yes but the ammouint of bot also is

[primal fog]

True

[bitter granite]

the thing is from me reviewing bot

i rarely see bot being online after like 2month of testing

[primal fog]

well in case you review mine let me know

[real rose]

real

[primal fog]

I am gonna submit it try it out for lie 4-5 months and see what I can do

Hetzner vps is cheap anyways

[deft wolf]

Mine will be online for the second year next month

[bitter granite]

i use a hosting provoder that only cost 1usd

[primal fog]

Congrats. How many servers did ou manage to hit?

[primal fog]

Where are you hosting?

[deft wolf]

I don't even know

[primal fog]

Sometimes real sometimes I wish a farmer

[deft wolf]

3k

[primal fog]

what's the name?

[bitter granite]

Spark (its on my bio)

[deft wolf]

[bitter granite]

congrats

[digital swan]

$47 😢

[primal fog]

Well thats 512mb of ram

So I guess fair

[bitter granite]

i mean you are just running discord bot

[real rose]

vps > shared

[bitter granite]

agree

[primal fog]

Depends what the bot does

[real rose]

more access to stuff

[bitter granite]

even in this provider
i use vps

[real rose]

hetz starts at like 4eur for 4gb anyway

[warm surge]

agreed

novonode vps are the goat

[bitter granite]

but i dont think there is a donation place that automaticly become credits

[real rose]

wym

donation place

[bitter granite]

From the dono credits alone, i can run my vps for years

[real rose]

oh

affiliate

you mean

yeah hetz doesnt iirc

[bitter granite]

Yeah in my provider
peeps can donate to me (and it become creddits)

[warm surge]

yea i got this added

[bitter granite]

not that

[warm surge]

https://oliverbot.xyz/novonode

[real rose]

cringe

[warm surge]

eh

[real rose]

[warm surge]

[bitter granite]

public pay basicly

i have it on my wa bot as a cmd e!donation

[warm surge]

but if you do start making bank by creating a discord bot, do not end up like mee6

[primal fog]

Nah whatever is moneized day 1

will be all

[digital swan]

kinda cool but why not take payment yourself and then you have the money instead of it being as credits

[primal fog]

And its a mini-game not a moderation bot so no weird paywalls

[warm surge]

share that with me

[digital swan]

but you cant withdraw that

[bitter granite]

i rather have it right that

[warm surge]

pleaseee

[bitter granite]

since i wont need to deal with payment

[warm surge]

i need pay my rent i already paid for like week ago

[bitter granite]

also you can (just make a ticket for it)

[digital swan]

fr?

[primal fog]

Does oliver break even or are you in a loss?

[bitter granite]

onlu 5$ fee
minimum 30 i think

[digital swan]

still a fee though

just seems better to use kofi and receive the money yourself

[bitter granite]

yes but you could

[warm surge]

nah im not making money off of oliver because discord rates

my school pays me more anyways

but is monthly

[primal fog]

tbh it takes courage to builda moderation bot

into the existing ones

[bitter granite]

kofi takes 5%

[primal fog]

like dyno mee6 etc

[digital swan]

kofi doesnt take anything, they use stripe

[primal fog]

Problem is you cant do that anymore

[warm surge]

its faster than both of those bots you named

[digital swan]

im sure you can if its a donation like hsr is doing it

[primal fog]

THey chaned the policy. Whatever you sell on a 3rd party (coffee, ko-fi, patreon, pernsonal-site) must be on discord as well

[digital swan]

if youre not selling any bonus and its just a donation

[bitter granite]

directly stated from the site

[primal fog]

Good luck getting a donation on a discord bot

[digital swan]

0-5%

[primal fog]

Without any benefits

[bitter granite]

like 10% of my dono is from discord thou

[primal fog]

Well good for you counter argument would be the size (low servers -> faster app)

Good luck scaling nonetheless

[bitter granite]

my bot is in low ammount of server
but the server quality is good

[warm surge]

nah Blame novonode with good vps

[bitter granite]

i dont use novonode for a reason

[primal fog]

Quick question regarding top.gg q3 picks

if i submit now am i still eligible?

or you guys already voted

[bitter granite]

i mean..... no since its now q4

[primal fog]

Wait last post mentioned Q2 picks and thought q3 was coming up

[bitter granite]

oh wait you are right

my brain isnt working

[bitter granite]

but this you prob need to be in q4 batch

[primal fog]

okay so i better wrap up development then

and call it

[bitter granite]

@warm surge am i in the correct site?

[warm surge]

lmaoooo

novocode

noice

[raven nexus]

anyone know php well?
i want to know how to make it allign same line

[digital swan]

I’m not sure that’s php specific but could you not just use grid?

[proven lantern]

what are discord quests going to be?
https://discord.com/developers/docs/events/webhook-events#quest-user-enrollment

[raven nexus]

how could i do it?

this is my first time

[digital swan]

Just look up css grid

[earnest phoenix]

me when windows slow

[pearl trail]

chat is this real

[quartz kindle]

you just have to use using use

[harsh nova]

Very much

[surreal sage]

real ngl

[coarse turtle]

why does my server count say 123?

[lyric mountain]

u probably sent that value to topgg

[coarse turtle]

idk my bot is in 1k server it shouldnt be doing 123 of all numbers

[lyric mountain]

Well, topgg only shows what you give them

[wheat mesa]

CORS is going to be the death of me god

[lyric mountain]

You probably left some debug code to upload that specific number

[lyric mountain]

Well, what'd be webdev without cors adding some friction

At this point it's basically an initiation rite

[wheat mesa]

Does anyone know why my ASP.NET backend is having issues with CORS? I'm trying to make a POST request from a Vue SPA running on http://localhost:5173 to my ASP.NET backend running on http://localhost:5063 with a CORS policy like so:

      builder.Services.AddCors(options =>
        {
            options.AddPolicy("AllowSpecificOrigin", policy =>
            {
                policy.WithOrigins("http://localhost:5173")
                    .AllowAnyHeader()
                    .AllowAnyMethod()
                    .AllowCredentials();
            });
        });
      // ...
      var app = builder.Build();
        
      app.UseCors("AllowSpecificOrigin");
``` and a request that looks like this: ```ts
const res = await fetch("http://localhost:5063/api/auth/callback", {
    method: 'POST',
    headers: {
        'Content-Type': 'application/json',
    },
    body: JSON.stringify({
        code: authCode
    })
});

It seems my browser is making a preflight request that fails, but it won't tell me any errors since it is not available to scripts, so I don't specifically know what's wrong

[lyric mountain]

Did you try 127 instead of localhost?

[wheat mesa]

I have not but I don't think it would make a difference

[lyric mountain]

Oh also, in port might not be the same as out port

Check if the calling address is 5173

[wheat mesa]

Wdym

The network request?

[lyric mountain]

Hm, actually nvm, it'd be the same as it's a site

Well, first of all try to allow * just to check if the setup is right

[wheat mesa]

Here's the headers for the preflight req btw

OPTIONS /api/auth/callback undefined
Host: localhost:5063
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:132.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/132.0
Accept: */*
Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate, br, zstd
Access-Control-Request-Method: POST
Access-Control-Request-Headers: content-type
Referer: http://localhost:5173/
Origin: http://localhost:5173
Connection: keep-alive
Sec-Fetch-Dest: empty
Sec-Fetch-Mode: cors
Sec-Fetch-Site: same-site

[lyric mountain]

If it allows passing then you can narrow down to the specific address

Try with 127 to check

Some things refuse to work with localhost alias for some reason

[wheat mesa]

Still fails with .AllowAnyOrigins()

[lyric mountain]

Then the api part is wrong, not the address specifically

[wheat mesa]

Still fails using 127 address too

[lyric mountain]

If * failed then it's not an address issue

Idk how asp works tbh, but the issue is in how you're setting the policy

It's annoying to get right always

[wheat mesa]

agh

I gtg for now but I asked in the C# server too, hopefully they know what's wrong

ASP is finicky sometimes

[lyric mountain]

gl

[wheat mesa]

Yeah no it turned out I'm a moron and I mistyped one number in the port

[sharp geyser]

[raven nexus]

ok

[civic scroll]

is this cursed

[small tangle]

i smell apache spark

[solemn latch]

does the identify scope provide email addresses?

I purged my database, logged in with just the identify scope and it still provided an email address.

Odd

NVM, its caching somewhere that I'm unaware of

Oh, its actually inside of authorized apps. Since I authorized email once it always provides my email. Weird.

[civic scroll]

that's just pandas

there is no data stream 😔

[sharp geyser]

no

email is only provided with the email scope when doing oauth2

Assuming you mean discord

[green kestrel]

anyone whos got any laravel websites, update asap

https://github.com/advisories/GHSA-gv7v-rgg6-548h

[earnest phoenix]

@harsh nova is interested

[harsh nova]

-b 1305163978854498364 crypto scam

[gilded plank]

jerry002009#0 was successfully banned.

[bitter granite]

welp he indeed send it to every possible channel

[bitter granite]

#general message might wanna del

[harsh nova]

Uhhhh and I bot banned him so I gotta delete manually

[bitter granite]

all location is there

[harsh nova]

Luca sucks so bad

[harsh nova]

Thanks!

[bitter granite]

#commands message
#auctions-general message

got 2 more

and this

[earnest phoenix]

read to massage them?

[harsh nova]

Sure wish Luca had a nuke command

[harsh nova]

Yes

[bitter granite]

Manual ban has it

[deft wolf]

Kinda sus

[harsh nova]

Yes but then I gotta manually set a ban log message

Always forget to use in app ban

[bitter granite]

Atleast its inst like 10+ message spam per channel

[dusky idol]

How good of an idea it is to host multiple MongoDB clusters for one single high traffic Discord Bot in order reduce lag/delay in commands?

Would love to hear pros and cons of it

[lyric mountain]

mongo was already supposed to be used in high traffic environments

if you're feeling a delay then something is wrong with your flow

but well, the pro is that you scale horizontally, so you can have 2 medium specs servers instead of 1 top spec

the con is that you double the resource consumption

[dusky idol]

I don't know why its screwing me up, during high traffic hours, the latency hits about 300-1000 even.
I see the thread count going up in the bot, but the speed decrease is over time. Like after the bot runs for x amount of hours, it becomes a bit slow. If I restart the bot, it's fixed for another x hours

[lyric mountain]

sounds like a leak

what language are we talking about btw?

[dusky idol]

Python

[lyric mountain]

those threads that you see going up, are they being properly disposed of?

afaik python doesn't have threads, it uses sub processes to mimic them

[dusky idol]

For some additional information, I'm self hosting the bot through my other device as I found it more reliable method to resort to

[lyric mountain]

shouldn't matter much

just take note if the threads are piling up, and keep an eye on htop for high cpu usage

[dusky idol]

I don't know but I'd say they're not. The count builds up over time till the limit, right now it's set to 100 I think? But after that it'll become slow

[lyric mountain]

what is your bot about?

wait you're using windows to host?

but well, from what I see your bot is goin into swap memory, which will be much slower than phys memory

your websocket latency is also very high, so it might be compounding into the delay you're feeling, perhaps your bandwidth isn't enough for the demand

[dusky idol]

It's a gatcha game bot, around anime card collection

[lyric mountain]

and at last, if your threads are separate processes and not virtual threads (threads that are created within the runtime not OS) then you might be suffocating your cpu

[dusky idol]

Popular genre

[dusky idol]

That is regional I believe

[lyric mountain]

yes, but high latency will affect all requests

every transaction made with discord will have that latency added into it

[dusky idol]

I had a conversation with a dude facing similar problem, he said that it was the case for him too but he switched from mongodb to sql and it fixed, now I'm sure there must be a better way than just switching database

[lyric mountain]

also for a gacha bot you could disable message cache, unless you're fetching messages very frequently

[lyric mountain]

there's also another factor that's how your data is structured, and where the database server is

mongo excels at being thrown random stuff to later fetch by id

[dusky idol]

I self host the mongodb too on my machine so the latency is minimal

[lyric mountain]

while sql excels at data organized into tables and relationships

also another thing to note is that mongo will take as much memory it's allowed to

sql databases usually refrain from taking memory preemptively

[lyric mountain]

how many cores does your cpu have?

[lyric mountain]

and do you know which type you're using?

[dusky idol]

I think 8 cores? It's r7 6800h

[dusky idol]

Sadly not, I'm just an excellent configurator who knows what to make in a game to make it enjoyable for players with basic knowledge of how to code it in

[lyric mountain]

if those are 56 physical threads then yeah it's being suffocated

that'd be 7 threads per core, the recommended is around 2

[dusky idol]

I see, is there a possible way to handle those threads? I did reduce the count of max pool size to 100 when someone offered that fix but it only helped a small bunch

[lyric mountain]

I'm back

[lyric mountain]

you can fetch the OS' cpu core count and multiply it by desired threads per core

in my bot I use cores - 2 for my pool

the leftover 2 cores I leave free for the OS to use, my bot is quite cpu intensive so I dont want to starve the system itself

and then I have an unbounded virtual thread pool for the commands themselves, those are created and managed akin to JS promises (created and managed by the runtime)

but a way to check if this might be the issue is to look at your CPU usage

if it's maxed nearly all time then it's suffocated

also reduce your maximum allowed mongo cache to about 40% of your total physical memory, so it doesn't push your bot into swap zone

fine tune that percentage based on your taste, the more cache you give to it the faster the database will perform, but the less physical memory your bot will be allowed to use

[stark abyss]

[sage bobcat]

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[proven lantern]

are discord quests going to be like steam achievements?

https://discord.com/developers/docs/events/webhook-events#quest-user-enrollment

This event cannot be received by apps at this time. It's documented because it appears on the Webhooks settings page.
QUEST_USER_ENROLLMENT is sent when a user is added to a Quest on Discord.```

[bitter granite]

if so i bet someone will like pay thousands of dollars go get to like lv 1000

[earnest phoenix]

absolutely, it made the news a few months ago - https://www.wired.com/story/snowflake-breach-advanced-auto-parts-lendingtree/

[quartz kindle]

lmfao

[frosty gale]

big companies try not to pretend that a massive data breach has never happened to them challenge (impossible)

[pine willow]

idk if I should make that a public bot or not

[digital swan]

could get expensive

those flames are definitely not coming out the exhaust

[sage bobcat]

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[pine willow]

Its a custom AI

Running on h100 GPUs

• low-performance

[pine willow]

yea its bugged a bit

[spark flint]

thats not bugged thats just AI being AI

lol

[sage bobcat]

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[deft wolf]

https://tenor.com/bMTmaNE8fC3.gif

[pine willow]

it still looks buggy lol

[lyric mountain]

Nah it looks sedan

[sage bobcat]

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[pine willow]

not always

[pearl trail]

95% it does

[eternal osprey]

hey guys

these are basic input spinners

for the input type number, but it only shows on pc. It does not show on the mobile interface, while i actually need that

[raven nexus]

is there a way to do a command that required to /vote before able to run the command?

[lyric mountain]

I dont think mobile has native spinners

also why is that input so big

[eternal osprey]

nooooo

are you fr

oh my days

i ned that fucking spinner as i am using step increment type shit

[warm surge]

Ye

[reef relic]

What do I do?

[digital swan]

Type something

[reef relic]

Doesn’t work

Well I can type

[digital swan]

Then it could possibly be broken

[reef relic]

Nvm

I did it

Thanks for helping me

[proven lantern]

i have the initial work done for my private wow server bot. does this break any Top.gg rules?

these are the two commands. they dont enter a password or username

[pine willow]

Its creating Accounts on a non Offical Server right?

I don't see a Problem tbh

Because these aren't real information?

[proven lantern]

yes, it's a private server

the username and password work when their WoW client points to my private server

[pine willow]

Shouldnt be a Problem tbh

But I can be wrong lol

Why do you make it a Public bot?

[proven lantern]

i want to get more players on the server

[crystal wigeon]

Kuu, Chitty

remember the idea i told you guys last time?

@quartz kindle @lyric mountain @eternal osprey about the marketplace for microservices

we just launched our landing page. can you guys give some feedback?

this will maybe also help you understand better what i was talking about

dont ban me im just asking for feedback. https://tryamnesia.com/

[reef relic]

import discord
from discord.ext import commands, tasks
import datetime
import asyncio

intents = discord.Intents.default()
intents.members = True # Enable member-related events
intents.message_content = True # For reading messages

client = commands.Bot(command_prefix="!", intents=intents)

List to track suspicious accounts

suspicious_users = set()

Configuration

ACCOUNT_AGE_LIMIT = 60 # Minimum age of account in days to join (can be adjusted)
RAID_THRESHOLD = 5 # Number of messages sent in a short period for it to be considered a raid
MESSAGE_THRESHOLD_TIME = 5 # Time window in seconds to consider raid

Function to check account age

def check_account_age(user):
account_creation = user.created_at
age_in_days = (datetime.datetime.utcnow() - account_creation).days
return age_in_days >= ACCOUNT_AGE_LIMIT

Anti-Alt Account: Check account age when a user joins

@client.event
async def on_member_join(member):
if not check_account_age(member):
suspicious_users.add(member.id)
await member.kick(reason="Account too new.")
await member.send(f"Your account is too new to join the server. Please create an account that's at least {ACCOUNT_AGE_LIMIT} days old.")
print(f"Kicked {member.name} for having a new account.")
else:
print(f"{member.name} joined. Account age is valid.")

[bitter granite]

is it python?

[reef relic]

Yes

Anti-Raid: Track message activity to detect raids

recent_messages = []

@client.event
async def on_message(message):
if message.author.bot:
return

# Record the time and user of the message
recent_messages.append((message.author.id, message.created_at))

# Remove messages older than the threshold time window
recent_messages[:] = [(user_id, timestamp) for user_id, timestamp in recent_messages if (datetime.datetime.utcnow() - timestamp).seconds <= MESSAGE_THRESHOLD_TIME]

Check if there's a raid

user_message_count = sum(1 for user_id, _ in recent_messages if user_id == message.author.id)

if user_message_count >= RAID_THRESHOLD:
    # Possible raid detected, take action
    await message.delete()  # Delete the message
    await message.author.ban(reason="Detected raiding behavior.")
    print(f"Banned {message.author.name} for potential raid.")
    await message.channel.send(f"User {message.author.name} was banned for raiding behavior.")
await client.process_commands(message)

Anti-Nuke: Monitor and react to mass message deletions or role changes

@client.event
async def on_guild_role_update(before, after):
# Check for any significant changes in roles that could indicate an attempt to nuke the server
if len(before.permissions) != len(after.permissions):
# Log the event, possibly alert staff
print(f"Role change detected: {before.name} -> {after.name}")
@client.event
async def on_guild_member_update(before, after):
# If user role changes significantly or if user becomes an admin unexpectedly
if "admin" in [role.name.lower() for role in before.roles] and "admin" not in [role.name.lower() for role in after.roles]:
print(f"Suspicious role removal detected for {after.name}")

@client.event
async def on_message_delete(message):
# If a large number of messages are deleted within a short time, it's a raid attempt
print(f"Message deleted in {message.channel.name} by {message.author.name}: {message.content}")

Command for bot owner to check suspicious users manually

@client.command()
async def check_suspicious(ctx):
if suspicious_users: {', '.join([str(user) for user in suspicious_users])}")
else:
await ctx.send("No suspicious users detected.")

Command to start the bot

@client.command()
async def start(ctx):
await ctx.send("Bot is now monitoring for raids and suspicious accounts!")

Run the bot with your token

client.run('YOUR_BOT_TOKEN')

[deft wolf]

But why

[bitter granite]

idk how to dev bot on python so i sadly cant help

[bitter granite]

bro cant figire out why his bot wont go online

Also no need to send all the file
you prob just need to fix the main(or other starting file) to get it to be able to connect

[reef relic]

It’s to long to send whole thing at once

[reef relic]

I sent it all

[bitter granite]

I could not help on python since idk how to dev py bot
best case is to wait for someone who know

[reef relic]

What can you dev with?

[bitter granite]

like i said idk how to make python bot

[reef relic]

What bot can you make?

[bitter granite]

mostly bot on another platform

[reef relic]

Do you know anyone who can dev with python

[bitter granite]

You can wait untill someone does

[reef relic]

Do you know anyone who can?

[bitter granite]

like i said You can wait untill someone does

[reef relic]

So you don’t

[mortal ginkgo]

Hey, when u starting the robot what the error in console?

[sage bobcat]

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[bitter granite]

[mortal ginkgo]

[bitter granite]

i do know alot of pydev but i wont annoy them

[mortal ginkgo]

Error?

[bitter granite]

Thats not bot token

[mortal ginkgo]

Thats not your bot token

[bitter granite]

thats bot id

[mortal ginkgo]

And dont share the real one

[reef relic]

Ok

[sage bobcat]

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[mortal ginkgo]

The token u can get in discord developer portal

I think is the main problem? U dont put the real one token, thats why the bot not go on

Because if u share bot token anyone can connect with them

[bitter granite]

Bot id: 1135642607956009101 (publicy known)
Token: rahioocidwawdDWWD (do not share)

just an example, id would be just number, if token there is a mix also longer

ops wrong reply

[mortal ginkgo]

Thats okey

[lyric mountain]

What's the point of an anti nuke feature?

If a bot is able to nuke then you won't be able to stop it cuz it has higher perms than u

Also things will happen way too fast for people to remove the bot in time

[pearl trail]

1st function: what if an admin wanted to change role permission
2nd function: what if owner want to demote admin
3rd function: it just logs all deleted message

[lyric mountain]

Yeah, it's basically just taking the role of audit log

[bitter granite]

I just relized there is alot of print

[crystal wigeon]

[sage bobcat]

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[lyric mountain]

There's a broken comment there

[sage bobcat]

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[lyric mountain]

Yeah, that's why it's not running most likely

A bunch of comments are just freeform text

No prefix

[sage bobcat]

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[bitter granite]

Anti-Raid: Track message activity to detect raids
recent_messages = []

@client.event
async def on_message(message):
    if message.author.bot:
        return

    # Record the time and user of the message
    recent_messages.append((message.author.id, message.created_at))

    # Remove messages older than the threshold time window
    recent_messages[:] = [(user_id, timestamp) for user_id, timestamp in recent_messages if (datetime.datetime.utcnow() - timestamp).seconds <= MESSAGE_THRESHOLD_TIME]
# Check if there's a raid
    usermessage_count = sum(1 for user_id,  in recent_messages if user_id == message.author.id)

    if user_message_count >= RAID_THRESHOLD:
        # Possible raid detected, take action
        await message.delete()  # Delete the message
        await message.author.ban(reason="Detected raiding behavior.")
        print(f"Banned {message.author.name} for potential raid.")
        await message.channel.send(f"User {message.author.name} was banned for raiding behavior.")
    await client.process_commands(message)
# Anti-Nuke: Monitor and react to mass message deletions or role changes
@client.event
async def on_guild_role_update(before, after):
    # Check for any significant changes in roles that could indicate an attempt to nuke the server
    if len(before.permissions) != len(after.permissions):
        # Log the event, possibly alert staff
        print(f"Role change detected: {before.name} -> {after.name}")
@client.event
async def on_guild_member_update(before, after):
    # If user role changes significantly or if user becomes an admin unexpectedly
   if "admin" in [role.name.lower() for role in before.roles] and "admin" not in [role.name.lower() for role in after.roles]:
        print(f"Suspicious role removal detected for {after.name}")

@client.event
async def on_message_delete(message):
    # If a large number of messages are deleted within a short time, it's a raid attempt
    print(f"Message deleted in {message.channel.name} by {message.author.name}: {message.content}")

# Command for bot owner to check suspicious users manually
@client.command()
async def check_suspicious(ctx):
    if suspicious_users: {', '.join([str(user) for user in suspicious_users])})
    else:
        await ctx.send("No suspicious users detected.")

#Command to start the bot
@client.command()
  async def start(ctx):
     await ctx.send("Bot is now monitoring for raids and suspicious accounts!")

#Run the bot with your token
client.run('YOUR_BOT_TOKEN') ```

had to fix the broken comment

wierd why is there "

[bitter granite]

There is a bit of missing ' and "
maybe thats why it no run

[pearl trail]

the reason i say python hard is wth is this 💀 if "admin" in [role.name.lower() for role in before.roles] and "admin" not in [role.name.lower() for role in after.roles]

[bitter granite]

Wait did the bot only check admin role? What if the admin role is called Admin? Or Server Manager? Or like any other name then admin

Wouldnt it be better to just check the roles perms

Or am i just dumb

[pearl trail]

wont work

i mean its AI code

never meant to have 0 issue

[lyric mountain]

mfw you need to write a full english sentence in an if clause

[random kettle]

python is one of the easier languages to learn imo

[lyric mountain]

it is, but the low entry barrier also makes larger complex codebases nigh unreadable if not taken into account way earlier at project design

[random kettle]

both python and javascript make a lot of good coding habits "optional" with how flexible they are

[lament rock]

now isnt it just lovely eslint exists

[warm surge]

question how to get accurate rating with cpu and ram usages on node.js with process?

[pearl trail]

process.memoryUsage / 1024 / 1024

[warm surge]

e

process.memoryUsage().heapUsed / 1024 / 1024

@pearl trail

[pearl trail]

yes thats just bare code

you do that on each property

[warm surge]

@pearl trail is discord breaking for you

??

nvm

https://cdn.itzwebster.xyz/u/wzPnoy.png

[pearl trail]

ye

[crystal wigeon]

Yeah apparently discord had hiccups this morning

[frosty gale]

rookie mistake trying to divide a function

[warm surge]

I already did that

[quartz kindle]

btw thats just js memory not full node memory

[quartz kindle]

Math.sqrt / 0

[warm surge]

@quartz kindle

[warm surge]

I want the process memory

For each process

[quartz kindle]

process.memoryUsage.rss()

unless your system swaps it out (windows mostly), thats gonna be the more accurate number, including the node process itself and whatever else it reserves

also, for cpu you cant really use it like that, its more complicated

cpu usage is calculated by measuring time of cpu activity

so you need to measure it over time

here:
https://github.com/timotejroiko/useful-snippets/blob/master/snippets/node-cpu-usage.js

[warm surge]

thanks tim @quartz kindle

[frosty gale]

its extremely annoying to get because it depends on what you define as process memory

do you want what the process has physically allocated, do you want to know how much virtual memory it has, do you want to include shared memory, do you want to include swap memory as well, etc etc

[deft wolf]

I need Discord but better

[spark flint]

@solemn latch might be interested

:^)

[solemn latch]

@hollow blade no ads please

[dapper quarry]

Rate my organization skills.........

[spark flint]

horrible

imo move the commands into a diff folder

move dbs out of that folder

sort nicer

[lyric mountain]

Why...why are there so many dbs?

[civic scroll]

2 things

• organize by extension
• organize by file roles (what does that file do)

[earnest phoenix]

And just have one bot db with all the tables you need

[muted harness]

It's certainly better than my one file 1200 line main.py

[warm surge]

And that’s deal breaker

[bitter granite]

Atleast it works

[small tangle]

sheer loc isnt bad

[dapper quarry]

Yeah there’s something broken in it, it’s my first python project, so I get to figure out what happened and organize a bit better. Thanks for the advice

[civic scroll]

[sharp geyser]

@prime cliff when it comes to state management with blazor, what is the recommended way? I know there is several methods for it, and I have tried out one such method which is to use dependency injection, the problem with that method seems to be it does not differentiate between the client, so two people can end up seeing the same state.

[prime cliff]

So you want 2 people to view the same state i guess?

[sharp geyser]

No not at all

Thats the exact opposite

That's what is currently happening

State is being shared globally, when in fact it shouldn't be

Right now im trying to do it so that the state is user dependent

[prime cliff]

That depends on how you inject using the specific type there is Singleton

Here this explains it better https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/aspnet/core/blazor/fundamentals/dependency-injection?view=aspnetcore-9.0

Singleton is basically shared between everyone so you can inject a shared service or you can do a scoped type which will create an instance for that user so like a scoped database service connection for each user

[sharp geyser]

hm

but scoped acts like singleton with blazor no?

[prime cliff]

No you need to register it first like builder.Services.AddSingleton<IDataAccess, DataAccess>();

Then in your components/pages you can do @inject DataAccess Data

You can also do a session state component instead of dependency inject

[sharp geyser]

Well I know about how to use DI in blazor, my problem is using Singleton it is accessible to everyone, so everyone would see the same state data

I am trying to keep user specific information in state, so it persists across sessions

I think I found what I need though

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/aspnet/core/blazor/state-management?view=aspnetcore-9.0&pivots=server

[prime cliff]

I do something a little more customized

@if (Ready)
{
    @switch (SessionError)
    {
        case SessionErrorType.AuthenticationError:
            {
<MudText Typo="Typo.h6">Authentication Error</MudText>
            }
            break;
        default:
            {
                    <CascadingValue Value="@this">
                        @ChildContent
                    </CascadingValue>
            }
            break;
    }
}

protected override async Task OnInitializedAsync()
    {
        State = await AuthenticationStateProvider.GetAuthenticationStateAsync();
        UserDateOffset = await JS.InvokeAsync<int>("GetUserTimezoneOffset");


        if (State == null)
        {
            Console.WriteLine("Auth Error");
            SessionError = SessionErrorType.AuthenticationError;
        }
        else if (!State.User.Identity.IsAuthenticated)
        {
            Console.WriteLine("Auth Required");
            SessionError = SessionErrorType.AuthenticationRequired;
        }
        else
        {
            Console.WriteLine("Trigger Ready");

        }
        Ready = true;
}```

This is for blazor server-side though

It basically creates a session component for that user as the main component and then loads the pages after it with CascadingValue.

Then any component/pages you want to use it in can be referenced with

[CascadingParameter]
private SessionProvider Session { get; set; }```

This way i can use the Session.UserDateOffset value to show date/time for that user 🙂 like what Discord does

[sharp geyser]

Interesting

For now ima just do something stupidly simple

I can always make it better later

[neat mauve]

loool mine looks similar because I'm just lazy and am totally fine with my structure, which i dev by myself only xd so no one to bother with

Although I haven't got so many databases... wtf? I got postgresql database on a second server of mine, so traffic goes over the internet. but one Database for all data with tables there, that reference each other (Although I only got two tables yet and the player table is made in a horrible, but for me nice/easy to work/change/extend stuff on).

[lyric mountain]

Nope, you're doing it correctly, even with a bunch of tables you really want to keep it all in a single db

One for the cache, two for the optimization

And ofc relationships, which is the main thing about sql

[neat mauve]

Nah... I mean ... lol wait.

        CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS user_data (
            user_id BIGINT PRIMARY KEY,
            data JSONB NOT NULL
        );

😂 But don't tell my users about it 🤫

[neat mauve]

wdym one db for cache and two for optimization?

I keep a copy of recent user data in ram as objects to omite a database connection over the network to my other server; Also regularly cleaning that data if not used for (currently) 5 minutes, then I just go through it quickly and save it in a cache list, which i then save; so all other threads potentially waiting can proceed as soon as possible.

[lyric mountain]

Point one, point two

Not db one db two

• for the cache
• for the optimization

Bullet points

[neat mauve]

thats a listing. for cache and optimization you need a single db. thats what u wanted to say? Instead of 'one' and 'two' just reworking it so there will be an 'and' between the two listings, like this:

One for the cache, two for the optimization -- reworkd-->For cache and for optimization.

[lyric mountain]

Lmao, I don't think you get what I meant

Ok ill reword

You should have a single db for two reasons - one for the cache, two for the optimization

[neat mauve]

Yeah, sorry. I am not a native english speaker, so i may have deficites there :X

[small tangle]

Benefit 1) Cache
Benefit 2) Optimization

[lyric mountain]

That

[neat mauve]

Thats what i wanted to express here: #development message
':D

Though the use of 'one' and 'two' feels unintuitively for me. maybe using 'firstly' and 'secondly' would have helped me understand it better 🙂

[lyric mountain]

Fair

[earnest phoenix]

@harsh nova is interested

[bitter granite]

welp

[earnest phoenix]

@radiant kraken what's some more common usage?

println!("{}{}", indent, node);

or

println!("{indent}{node}");

[sharp geyser]

Depends

2nd one if its a raw value / not something with nested properties

1st one if you want to access a nested property

main difference between the two is you can't do

println!("{indent.something}");```

[earnest phoenix]

indent is just a string and node implements fmt::Display, so doesn't matter that much

But I feel like being consistent and always use the "{}", stuff format everywhere, even when you can "{stuff}", is one good way of going, especially to keep consistency

[surreal sage]

question mark

"malware" (file ends in .infected, no shit)

and a lot of google chrome user data

pups

[radiant kraken]

i prefer always doing the second one if possible, just keeps em clean

[bitter granite]

Pro

[radiant kraken]

says u with your pro camera gear

[bitter granite]

How does that even remomotely help in coding

[radiant kraken]

pro is still pro smh

[hollow blade]

Okay

[surreal sage]

holy fucking shit dependabot just keeps throwing prs at me

[sage bobcat]

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[neat mauve]

whats a prs?

[earnest phoenix]

https://docs.github.com/en/pull-requests/collaborating-with-pull-requests/proposing-changes-to-your-work-with-pull-requests/about-pull-requests

[neat mauve]

prs shall be the short form for pullrequests or is that unrelated?

[earnest phoenix]

not only should, it is

[quartz kindle]

pr = pull request
prs = pull requests

:^)

[neon leaf]

@quartz kindle switched back from worker to nodejs again btw

[quartz kindle]

you mean from worker_thread to child_process?

[neon leaf]

No, cloudflare workers

[quartz kindle]

ah

[neon leaf]

The performance has been getting worse and worse

[quartz kindle]

like proper vps hosted nodejs?

[neon leaf]

Now it's on 4 ha vms with 2 load balancers

Ye

Like 2400% faster on some endpoints

[quartz kindle]

xD

cf workers have the whole on-demand thingy, with cold starts and shit

[neon leaf]

That isn't even the main problem, workers are pretty fast themselves

However the included database, D1 is incredibly slow

300ms for a select * for 10 rows

[quartz kindle]

rip

[neon leaf]

Like the entire table is 16 rows

[quartz kindle]

thats basically the same for any remote database i guess

[neon leaf]

Could be

But I'm happy to be on postgres again

[quartz kindle]

its incredibly hard to do edge computing and centralized db at the same time

[neon leaf]

Yeah

D1 being a single sqlite file ran by a nodejs process may also be the reason

[quartz kindle]

somewhere in the world

and simultaneously attempting to replicate itself across the edge

[neon leaf]

Afaik they don't do replication

[quartz kindle]

their cache thingy does right?

i dont remember

[neon leaf]

Nope

[quartz kindle]

oh its now a separate thingy

https://developers.cloudflare.com/hyperdrive/

[prime cliff]

🙂 fully working now

[pale geyser]

Hi

Hi

[eternal osprey]

Hey, anyone any insights on how to create my own mail server?

[sharp geyser]

don't

[hearty cargo]

hello all, where can i get Yoshimia commads list?

[agile belfry]

how can I know which server is I'm using my botv

[sage bobcat]

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[warm surge]

Or guildCreate event

@agile belfry

[agile belfry]

yeah I meant the list of servers that are using my bot

@sage bobcat

[agile belfry]

oh

[bitter granite]

Just a reminder to keep the cmd lock to devs

[sage bobcat]

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[sharp geyser]

@prime cliff I was messing about with that component lib you recommneded, and stuck on the first step.
InvalidOperationException: A component of type 'Radzen.Blazor.RadzenTheme' has render mode 'InteractiveAutoRenderMode', but the required endpoints are not mapped on the server.

Not entirely sure what this means, as I am calling both AddRazorComponents and MapRazorComponents

[prime cliff]

Did you see the install guide on how to setup the service and also add the main components?

https://blazor.radzen.com/get-started?theme=standard-dark

[sharp geyser]

Im following the .Net 8/9

[prime cliff]

Are you using render mode auto or server too

[sharp geyser]

No idea what any of this stuff does tbf

My exact Program.cs file

[prime cliff]

Ah there server render mode

In your MainLayout file you should have added <RadzenComponents @rendermode="InteractiveServer" />

[sharp geyser]

That worked ty

This blazor stuff is insane man, learning a new thing

[prime cliff]

Basically the render mode is either webassembly, serverside render or the new auto mode which is hybrid client and serverside

[sharp geyser]

hm

Clicking a button and listening to the event seems to do nothing

[prime cliff]

Yea blazor is quite insane with interactivity and hooking up a bunch of stuff to C# took time to learn and still learning new things

You need to set the event like so

<RadzenButton Click="@Submit"

@code {
   async Task Submit()
   {
   }
}```

[sharp geyser]

Yea I did that

<RadzenLayout>
    <RadzenHeader>
        <RadzenStack Orientation="Orientation.Horizontal" AlignItems="AlignItems.Center" Gap="0">
            <RadzenSidebarToggle Click="@(() => _sidebarExpanded = !_sidebarExpanded)" />
            <RadzenLabel Text="Mercatus" />
        </RadzenStack>
    </RadzenHeader>
    <RadzenSidebar @bind-Expanded="@_sidebarExpanded">
        <RadzenPanelMenu>
            <RadzenPanelMenuItem Text="About" Path="/about" />
        </RadzenPanelMenu>
    </RadzenSidebar>
    <RadzenBody>
        <div>
            @Body
        </div>
    </RadzenBody>
</RadzenLayout>

@code
{
    bool _sidebarExpanded;
}

[prime cliff]

Radzen components uses Click="" as a custom name but other html elements use @onclick=""

[sharp geyser]

So should I use @onclick ?

Because it seems the event isnt firing

[prime cliff]

Really no errors on terminal console or browser console?

[sharp geyser]

Some but they seem to be related to an extension

[prime cliff]

Wait are you testing local http or https

[sharp geyser]

local

[prime cliff]

With http?

[sharp geyser]

yea

[prime cliff]

The http to https might be breaking it then, this is more for production usage

[sharp geyser]

I just removed that and same issue

Event isnt firing and or, its doing nothing

[prime cliff]

Does the browser network tab show websocket working?

[sharp geyser]

Status 101

[prime cliff]

In your App.razor you should have <RadzenTheme Theme="standard-dark" @rendermode next your css links

[sharp geyser]

<!DOCTYPE html>
<html lang="en">

<head>
    <meta charset="utf-8"/>
    <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0"/>
    <base href="/"/>
    <link rel="stylesheet" href="@Assets["lib/bootstrap/dist/css/bootstrap.min.css"]"/>
    <link rel="stylesheet" href="@Assets["app.css"]"/>
    <link rel="stylesheet" href="@Assets["MercatusWeb.styles.css"]"/>
    <ImportMap/>
    <link rel="icon" type="image/png" href="favicon.png"/>
    <HeadOutlet/>
    <RadzenTheme Theme="material-dark" @rendermode="InteractiveServer" />
</head>

<body>
<Routes/>
<script src="_framework/blazor.web.js"></script>
<script src="_content/Radzen.Blazor/Radzen.Blazor.js?v=@(typeof(Radzen.Colors).Assembly.GetName().Version)"></script>
</body>

</html>

[prime cliff]

Hmm something weird is happening but i can't really tell

[sharp geyser]

Seems like they dont work in layouts

Events at least

[prime cliff]

It should work fine i have it too

[sharp geyser]

Seems like its an issue with buttons specifically

At least from the 2 or so posts I saw

[prime cliff]

You could maybe zip archive the project folder and DM me i can take a look

[sharp geyser]

Sure

[prime cliff]

@sharp geyser found the issue for some reason the main blazor render mode itself is being confused with no warnings either never seen that before.

Fix it in App.razor with <Routes @rendermode="InteractiveServer"/>

You'll see the sidebar works too now

[sharp geyser]

Interesting

Thanks a lot for that aha

[prime cliff]

That really should not be happening either because by default it's interactive server and the other modes throw an exception

[sharp geyser]

I always run into the weird

Maybe its cuz im using .net 9

it might be a bug with it

[wheat mesa]

I’d highly recommend a SPA with ASP.NET instead of using razor, I fucking hate razor

It’s what I have to use at work and the amount of times I wish we used Vue is insane

I find that razor gets really messy because you’ll have a ViewModel with an ever-expanding amount of properties

[sharp geyser]

Eh, blazor to me just seems the most ideal

Since I can re-use code to turn that web app into a mobile app, or even other platforms

my biggest selling point is having everything essentially on the same code base

[prime cliff]

I mean you only hate it because you don't really have much understanding of how it works and it's not that easy to just pickup and use because asp.net itself is very complex.

But once you understand the basics it's actually amazing for dashboard style applications.

[prime cliff]

Erm razor isnt ViewModels btw

That's old asp.net mvc controllers

Blazor is the new stuff that combines html and C# code together with C# events, asp.net mvc is the older one that dosen't let you have interactivity or complex component views and code.

[wheat mesa]

Ah, I’ve been using MVC then

Still not a fan of the blazor syntax in general though

[prime cliff]

I mean it's a straight up upgrade from mvc and you can layout a bunch of components to reuse in multiple pages and also have a session state with a lot more functionality

There's also a lot of open source development for it on awesome-blazor github with components, themes, markdown integration, WYSIWYG editor and a bunch of examples

It also lets you bind component variables two-way for back and forward usage and events (including regular javascript events) like on click and on hover straight to C# code for whatever you need

[wheat mesa]

I still prefer to completely de-couple my frontend and backend with an SPA and separate ASP.NET backend

(Plus if I have to write javascript, I’d rather just make my entire frontend in a javascript-based frontend)

[prime cliff]

Fair that depends on how you want to work with it

[surreal sage]

new Promise()
  .then(() => new Promise((resolveTimeout) => {
    setTimeout(resolveTimeout, 1_000)
  })
  .catch(() => {
    // will this error block catch the initial promise's error, or the resolveTimeout's?
  })
  .finally(() => {
    // will this final block run after the resolveTimeout?
  })```

or should I instead get rid of the finally {} block of the initial promise and wrap the contents of then and catch in a try {} finally {}

[wheat mesa]

Finally will run after the promise either resolves or rejects

[surreal sage]

which promise

[wheat mesa]

The first one

[wheat mesa]

Afaik at least

[surreal sage]

if it errors, catch and finally

otherwise it just logs gambling

not finally

sigh

[surreal sage]

yeah ill do it like this

wait

[pearl trail]

yes it'll wait for the setTimeout inside .then

[surreal sage]

.then will start a new promise chain

and the .catch after would be apart of the .then

instead of the first promise

[pearl trail]

won't it be for both promises?

hmm

yes the catch will catch errors from either promise

[surreal sage]

aaa unreadable one liner im going blind!!!

[pearl trail]

[surreal sage]

.then doesnt run unless you call resolve

kinda weird ngl

[pearl trail]

ye

imo it's not weird tbh

otherwise, why would you need to create a Promise in the first place

[neat mauve]

Hello there! I got an important question:
Will user_id's stay valid under any circumstances? or can it happen that a user_id changes for a certain user?

[earnest phoenix]

discord user ids?

Because "user_id" is pretty generic in a dev channel

[lyric mountain]

if you mean discord user ids then yes, they're permanent and exclusive

it's the only thing you can use to link to a specific user

[surreal sage]

note to self, make the callbacks async

promises are truthy

(i got hit with a 24h ratelimit ban)

[earnest phoenix]

horrible async

[surreal sage]

i think

no idea actually

i forgot to remove something else

maybe that was it

im schizo

[surreal sage]

h

[earnest phoenix]

also what is up with the requirement to add "use client"; at the top of every file to be able to use useState()

literally every file now the first line is that

[neat mauve]

mhhm. Okay, then my code has some flaws... even though the user id's look correct. They the same length like other user ids...

But i happen to have had 3 different user id's.

They look like chat messages ngl... So maybe I got some wrong word somewhere and taking the wrong id and saving it 😭

😭 🔫

[pine willow]

Hello! I added user installs a few hours ago and suddently my bot stopped working on my Servers, but when I start it on my PC it works?
Its just stuck in "thinking..." forever

:(

[earnest phoenix]

look through your logs

[pine willow]

There is no error logs

Everything is running fine

It randomly stopped working

after 1 hour or so

[earnest phoenix]

then we can't help

[pine willow]

uh ok

[pine willow]

https://discordstatus.com/incidents/lbpysdqch672

Wasnt a Issue on my end

[earnest phoenix]

some bot interactions

[pine willow]

yes

but thats the exact Issue I have

[earnest phoenix]

it was on buttons only, message update and when including a components field in the new data

it failed with error 500 and threw "Interaction failed"

and not the "is thinking" state

[earnest phoenix]

best comment so far

[sharp geyser]

Must be a discord snippet

[warm surge]

Im blaming this on Discord Staffs

[pearl trail]

wait wha we can do this in js??

[lyric mountain]

unicode value be like

[pearl trail]

sorry, i meant the “races” “sorted_races” without const let var etc

[neon leaf]

yes, its called global variables

[sharp geyser]

💀

[sage bobcat]

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[pearl trail]

isoke

[surreal sage]

what's our opinion on an api ratelimit banning you for (sum) 24 hours after it responds with 429 for 20 requests

[earnest phoenix]

fair enough

[sage bobcat]

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[lyric mountain]

better yet, ban if too many 4xx statuses are returned

[quaint yarrow]

await guildModel.aggregate({ $match: { public: true, banned: false } });

does anyone know why this mongoose query is taking 26s? (using console.time)
theres only 2.1k documents in the collection

i've also tried using find instead of aggregate which took 27 seconds, however i need to perform operations which i removed from the query to see if they were causing the significant query times which evidently not

[spark flint]

try countDocuments

await guildModel.countDocuments({ public: true, banned: false});

wait does that return results or the count

might be ```js
await guildModel.find({ public: true, banned: false}).toArray()

oh wait i just read what you said

are you using mongo cloud?

[quaint yarrow]

im using atlas, not sure if thats the same

[spark flint]

yeah thats the same

make sure the db is in the same region as you

or a close region

[quaint yarrow]

its in the same

[spark flint]

ah

[quaint yarrow]

it's only just started overnight

[lyric mountain]

atlas free tier?

[quaint yarrow]

yes

[lyric mountain]

I'm pretty sure it has low performance, tho not low enough to make a query take 27 seconds

all in all if you have a remote database you need to consider getting a local cache of some sort

it also depends on how much data you have

[quaint yarrow]

i've started caching the result however thats not really a fix right now as it only caches after a query is made meaning the user would have to re-search again afterwards

[quaint yarrow]

literally only 2.1k documents

my other bot has a collection with 46k documents and it takes less than 20 seconds

[lyric mountain]

you should cache the data, not the results

like, when you fetch document A keep it in cache (with an expiration criteria), then when attempting to fetch it again first check if it's already cached

[lyric mountain]

that's still way too high

[quaint yarrow]

for context, this is the collection for the guilds

[lyric mountain]

a properly optimized db shouldn't take much more than 2-3 seconds for the worst cases

[quaint yarrow]

right now caching shouldn't be in the picture because it shouldn't take longer than 2 seconds, im not sure why it is

[lyric mountain]

does mongo have anything akin to EXPLAIN from sql?

[quaint yarrow]

it has explain, but thats for find

[queen needle]

I would cache when I had like 5 documents..

[lyric mountain]

nosql somehow manages to be more complicated than sql

EXPLAIN would be able to give detailed metrics for query performance that'd help solve this much faster

[lyric mountain]

well, does find take 20s too?

[quaint yarrow]

okay this is weird:

console.time('FindAll')

console.log(await guildModel.find({
    public: true,
    banned: false
}).explain())

console.timeEnd('FindAll') // FindAll: 37.597ms


console.time('getAllGuilds');

const guilds = await getAllGuilds({ sort: parsedSort === 'most_relevant' ? undefined : parsedSort });

console.timeEnd('getAllGuilds'); // getAllGuilds: 26.529s


export async function getAllGuilds(options: { sort?: SortBy }) {
    console.log(options);
    return guildModel.find/*<GuildQuery<'averageRating' | 'monthVotes'>>*/({
        public: true,
        banned: false
    });
}```

[lyric mountain]

run explain on that find

to see if it's a database issue or latency issue

[quaint yarrow]

im doing it on the top one

[lyric mountain]

ah

well, what's the result of it?

oh wait, nvm

it's likely a network issue then, too much data being transferred

try to limit the getAllGuilds return to 1

to check

[quaint yarrow]

how could that be possible when i have a db with 46k documents (returning html transcripts) in a single go

[lyric mountain]

is your guildModel a fat document?

like, many fields or large fields

[quaint yarrow]

avg document size: 1.51kb

[lyric mountain]

I meant structure

[quaint yarrow]

34 properties
1 property which has a long value (2k chars), the rest is either booleans, numbers, or object id's

[lyric mountain]

well, I cant say much for mongo cuz I never worked with it, but this would be the only explanation

check the return of that explain, to see if any action takes too much time to complete compared to the rest

if you have too many booleans it'd be better to compress into an int field btw

[quaint yarrow]

though that shouldn't matter, this is my other db used on my other bot and it returns an entire HTML document for all 33k documents and it does it in a couple seconds

[lyric mountain]

sometimes large amounts of fields take longer to assemble than a single large field

[quaint yarrow]

33k at 11kb whereas the one in question is 2.1k at 1.5kb

[lyric mountain]

dont measure by storage size

[quaint yarrow]

im trying .select('id') so it only returns the guild id for each document

okay, that took 1 second

however when using aggregate i use $project which should only return 14 properties

[lyric mountain]

cant help much on the internals of how those ops work sadly

what did your explain say on the log btw?

it should contain data on every operation done

[lyric mountain]

hm, 2s so indeed not an issue on database's side

I'm clueless on this case, could be throttling on atlas' side

guess you'll need someone more experienced to help on this

[quaint yarrow]

okay i've figured out why explain wouldn't work on aggregate (the actual request i make in a prod environment)
the explain took roughly 260ms but getting the data (after this request) took 17.852s

[lament rock]

If you don't use an initializer like var, let or const, the variable is assigned to global. Initializers are for block scoping :)

[pearl trail]

oh, interesting

thanks for the explanation

[lyric mountain]

the hoops js will jump through to avoid throwing errors

[frosty gale]

js users wondering why their app full of .catch(err => null) and try {} catch {} isnt working

[solemn latch]

😄

The usual

[warm surge]

I got it has .catch(error => {})

[wheat mesa]

Genius

Promise rejection roulette

[harsh nova]

i feel called out

[lament rock]

Some linters will complain about some .catch(...) calls, so I just do .catch(e => void e)

Some complaints involve not using the callback param, or that an expression was expected. Luckily void is an expression statement and using the variable works

[earnest phoenix]

god i love html

return (
    <div className="container">
      <div className="row">
        <div className="col col--12">
          <div className="row">
            <div className="col col--3">Label:</div>
            <div className="col col--9">{label}</div>
          </div>
        </div>
        <div className="col col--12">
          <div className="row">
            <div className="col col--3">Expired:</div>
            <div className="col col--9">{expired}</div>
          </div>
        </div>
        <div className="col col--12">
          <div className="row">
            <div className="col col--3">Recent:</div>
            <div className="col col--9">{recent}</div>
          </div>
        </div>
      </div>
    </div>
  );

div everywhere