development

[quartz kindle]

lmfao

playing aroudn with this

[lyric mountain]

the total class complexity is 190

[quartz kindle]

lmfao

[lyric mountain]

not much I can do about it lul, I've dried as much as I could already but lots of ifs are unavoidable

[quartz kindle]

it just wants to force us to split the code into more smaller functions

thats how you get better scores

[neon leaf]

🔥

780 lines of function def

[lyric mountain]

one of my coworkers follows the "up to 20 lines per function" rule to the point

it's...not a pleasant sight

I'd rather have my monolithic functions than jump around in the source to find what's doing what

[quartz kindle]

lmao

[late crest]

anyone tried hosting lavalink server on datalix?

[frosty gale]

i would assume the experience is the same as hosting it anywhere else

[late crest]

probably, I just wanted to know how many resources it usually consume

[civic scroll]

you sound like my dad

[late crest]

I think about hosting bot + lavalink on a same vps

[lyric mountain]

I did it before (hosting both on same vps), it consumes a lot

unless your bot is music-focused, it's seldom advised not to add it

most of your resources will go to streaming the music

[frosty gale]

really? starting to sound like lavalink is the problem

[lyric mountain]

not really, it's fairly well optimized but music in general takes a lot of resources

at least when you start scalling

[frosty gale]

what about this blazingly fast™️ implementation of lavalink in Rust©️ https://github.com/Hearth-Industries/Hearth

of course it was abandoned

[lyric mountain]

it rusted away*

[frosty gale]

thats one problem i found with rust

people write wrappers or some additional features around another crate/package and dont update them

which makes the other package not work because of version conflicts

theyre so eager to write the next blazingly fast solution that they forgot they probably have to maintain it too

[radiant kraken]

lifecycle of every rust project:

• project
• project2
• project3
• project4
• project-new
• project-next
• project-but-maintained
• project-maintained-for-life-i-swear

[quartz kindle]

project that is a fork of abandoned project-maintained-for-life-i-swear that is a fork of project-but-maintained that is a fork of project-next that is an updated fork of project4 that is an improved version of project3 that is a remake of project2 with new rust features

[late crest]

is anyone hosting a good lavalink server 24/7? with uptime mostly 90%+
or maybe know a good one

[sharp geyser]

no

[frosty gale]

yes ill run a server specifically for you for free pookie

on my aws account with a linked credit card and no limit

[deft wolf]

Really? 😳

[sage bobcat]

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[quartz violet]

Does anyone know how to use Application Emojis?
If so can you explain to me how to use them?

[proven lantern]

what's a good domain registrar that has wildcard email forwarding?

[pearl trail]

any domain registrar with cloudflare™️

[proven lantern]

i didn't think cloudflare© ℗ ⓒ™ had wildcard email forwarding

[pearl trail]

idk if that's what you meant

[proven lantern]

niiiiiice

yeah

[pearl trail]

they just added that recently yeah, quite new

[proven lantern]

that explains why this website doesn't tell you about it

inflation is no fun

does cloudflare really force you to use their nameservers? i dont think that will be an issue for me. i'm just pointing to vercel hosting using A records. i dont use google workspace or anything like that

[sharp geyser]

well

how do you expect to use cloudflare if you aren't using their nameservers?

in terms of using it as a DNS you 100% need to

anything else not sure about

[proven lantern]

AI says this. cloudflare is doing more stuff than other providers

Most domain registrars and web hosting providers allow you to use any nameservers you choose, giving you the flexibility to use third-party DNS services or manage your own DNS if you prefer.```

yeah

i just need a registrar and not a full DNS right? but it doesn't really hurt either

[pearl trail]

I love cloudflare

[proven lantern]

Adding Cloudflare introduces another layer of complexity
It may slightly increase response times due to the extra hop```

i should just get a registrar

idk

i cant decide

[proven lantern]

when in doubt, choose freedom

has anyone used spaceship?

[proven lantern]

wow, i like their CEO

"We believe deeply in a free and open Internet. Spaceship is the first step toward a giant leap forward in Internet freedom", said Richard Kirkendall, Spaceship CEO. "In a world of closed ecosystems and platforms with limited flexibility, our goal with Spaceship is to bring together many products and services and empower them to work seamlessly together. The focus of our entire business is user choice and ease of use, placing full ownership and power in the hands of our customers."

[lament rock]

The problem with a lot of software systems is that people have different ideas on how something should be

[proven lantern]

i could still choose to use cloudflare dns nameservers and all the services too

while having the domains registered at spaceship

[proven lantern]

Ah, das rite! Ze problem with software systems is zat everyone has zeir own ideas. But really, zey should all just do zee same thing, ja? Make everything nice and uniform—much less chaos zat way!

[sharp geyser]

Why did you start speaking that way

[proven lantern]

sorry

flashback

[sharp geyser]

[proven lantern]

so spaceship should work for me

[hidden gorge]

Is there a better way I could do this?

            const query = `
                INSERT INTO guilds (guild_id, owner_id, name, settings) 
                VALUES (?, ?, ?, ?)
            `;
            const values = [
                guild.id,                      // guild_id
                guild.ownerId || 'Unknown',    // owner_id
                guild.name,                    // name
                JSON.stringify({               // settings
                    ChatBot: {
                        Enabled :false,
                        Channel :null
                    },
                    AutoRole: {
                        Enabled :false,
                        Roles :{}
                    },
                    Welcoming: {
                        Enabled :false,
                        Channel :null
                    }
                })
            ];

            await client.db.query(query, values);

[sharp geyser]

you are inserting into the db

I am confused on what your issue is

[hidden gorge]

Just wondering if i could format settings better

[sharp geyser]

There's no other way you would do that, unless you set the default values somewhere as a constant so you aren't creating the object each time you insert

but other than that its fine

[hidden gorge]

ok

[eternal osprey]

i've been using datalix for a few days now and i regret my choice

22|DDC  | 200
22|DDC  | Error sending email: Error: Connection timeout
22|DDC  |     at SMTPConnection._formatError (/root/DDC/node_modules/nodemailer/lib/smtp-connection/index.js:798:19)
22|DDC  |     at SMTPConnection._onError (/root/DDC/node_modules/nodemailer/lib/smtp-connection/index.js:784:20)
22|DDC  |     at Timeout.<anonymous> (/root/DDC/node_modules/nodemailer/lib/smtp-connection/index.js:237:22)
22|DDC  |     at listOnTimeout (node:internal/timers:581:17)
22|DDC  |     at process.processTimers (node:internal/timers:519:7) {
22|DDC  |   code: 'ETIMEDOUT',
22|DDC  |   command: 'CONN'```
i deadass can't connect with nodemailer.

Stay with me now, one folder WORKS. The nodemailer in that folder sends the data perfectly fine.
However, my other folder now just does not work at all...
On my other vps it DOES.

i curse the ppl in this chat that were saying that datalix is good 😭

[deft wolf]

That's why I always write that I only host a bot and database

[eternal osprey]

nah but deadass what can be the problem

[pearl trail]

I was giving my opinion, and it works for me

[deft wolf]

Isn't there any information that email ports are disabled by default?

[pearl trail]

yes there is

literally on the first page on the server panel

[eternal osprey]

how is one folder working and the other not lmao

i got 2 email bots running

[deft wolf]

I have no idea, but I guess that's what support is for

[eternal osprey]

how would i enable ports/change the firewall rules?

[pearl trail]

contact support

it's literally on the message

[eternal osprey]

you talk about on the message

i don't see anything bro

[pearl trail]

!!??!!!??!!!!

[eternal osprey]

oops

[pearl trail]

thanks for cursing us

[eternal osprey]

😭

[eternal osprey]

but that doesn't change the fact that one emailing server does work and the other doesn't though

[pearl trail]

well you can't jump into conclusion if you haven't enabled the "mail ports"

if it's disabled by default from them, then they're expecting mail servers won't work, and you can't expect it to work properly

they are preventing mail abuse that's hosted under their company

[jovial palm]

can someone help me i dont understand why the bot cannot find the path?

[deft wolf]

It looks like the asset folder is inside the src folder and the error shows that the src folder is missing in the path

So I think changing the path to ./src/asset/fonts/NerkoOne-Regular.ttf should work

[surreal sage]

???

😭

boolean ❌
false | true ✅

so dumb

[pearl trail]

💀

at least we know it is either false or true

[civic scroll]

you can also do

fn updateCullingState(hideVehicle = false, hideChassis = false)

is this for beamng

[surreal sage]

no!!!!

[civic scroll]

the types would automatically be inferred as boolean? as derived from default parameter values

[surreal sage]

this is for custom culling system written in ts transpiled to lua 😋

[civic scroll]

what

[surreal sage]

game culling

render culling

[civic scroll]

beamng culling

[radiant kraken]

i see fn i see rust

[civic scroll]

yes

[jovial palm]

ok trying

[deft wolf]

[sage bobcat]

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[restive trail]

anyone know how to handle nodejs code discord when I attempt to timout the bot it seem the bot didn't response but Yes so how to handle ?

[lyric mountain]

uh...what?

[sage bobcat]

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[lyric mountain]

I imagine you actually tried to say "how to prevent the interaction from saying the app didnt respond when it actually did"

if so, deferReply()

[quartz kindle]

best english

[restive trail]

uh i use prefix

[quartz kindle]

show code, show error

[past field]

how can i get some roles here? 👀

[deft wolf]

Hell nah

[warm surge]

Ghost ping alert

[deft wolf]

More like support scam alert

[late crest]

or become a discord bot developer and get it verified on top.gg

other ways idk

[deft wolf]

These are the easiest

[past field]

this is the one i really want to get 😩

[late crest]

yup

[late crest]

then go for it

[warm surge]

make a bot and don’t use github

[late crest]

it is not that hard

[late crest]

true

[warm surge]

create your own stuff

[sage bobcat]

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[past field]

i have a bot

3 actually

[sage bobcat]

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[past field]

but only have 1 public bot. it’s in 95 servers rn

[sage bobcat]

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[warm surge]

https://top.gg/bot/add

[past field]

why?

[sage bobcat]

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[late crest]

read this before adding bot to top.gg:
https://support.top.gg/support/solutions/articles/73000502502-bot-guidelines

[past field]

i can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or not lol

@sage bobcat

[sage bobcat]

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[past field]

looks like i meet all of these 👀

my bots not verified yet tho. so it’ll be locked soon until i decide to verify it

[past field]

what’s wrong with github?

[late crest]

many people like to fork a code and just submit it as a custom made bot

you can check there are many in #mod-logs

[past field]

ahh okay i see, i got ya.

[frosty gale]

im thinking of self hosting my own gitlab instance or something similar and hosting my code there

that way i can also configure my own self hosted pipelines and stuff

also get the added benefit of microsoft not using my code to train their models

i used gitlab at my old company and its very very very similar to github

[dusky idol]

Apologies I fell asleep yesterday xD.
I use the Motor library for mongo, and it's hosted on Atlas services indeed

[quartz kindle]

could you show some of your code? like a command that uses mongodb

[surreal sage]

aint no way

the installer for my latest version of an app i made

the checksums match

with malware from 3 years ago

gg

[quartz kindle]

many times the installers themselves are flagged

[dusky idol]

    @commands.command()
    async def pay(self, ctx, member:disnake.Member, amount):
        economyDB = await self.bot.db.economy.find_one({"_id": ctx.author.id})
        if not economyDB:await self.create_account(ctx.author)
        economyDB = await self.bot.db.economy.find_one({"_id": ctx.author.id})
  
        MemberEconomyDB = await self.bot.db.economy.find_one({"_id": member.id})
        if not MemberEconomyDB:await self.create_account(member)
        MemberEconomyDB = await self.bot.db.economy.find_one({"_id": member.id})
  
        economyDB["coins"] -= amount
        MemberEconomyDB["coins"] += amount
  
        await self.bot.db.economy.replace_one({"_id": ctx.author.id}, economyDB)
        await self.bot.db.economy.replace_one({"_id": member.id}, MemberEconomyDB)

Just wrote this simple command for better understanding, there are some differences in main code but it's mostly done this way

[quartz kindle]

like if you use a certain installer software/system that is often used for malware, the installer itself will be flagged, including all the legit software that uses the same installer

[surreal sage]

tauri is just false positives all over

i think the actual exe is like 16/72 detections

[quartz kindle]

ripperino

[quartz kindle]

can you show where you create the motor instance?

[dusky idol]

there's a file called db in utility folder which is defined this way
and in main file it's loaded like this

jishaku shows 121 threads and it becomes a lot laggier, usually it's on under 50 threads normally

[quartz kindle]

where is your bot hosted?

[dusky idol]

Currently I'm hosting on my computer, but that's not really an issue as I tried vps which did give the same problem

Do you think it could be because of Atlas and not really due to mongo

[quartz kindle]

how manny cpus does your pc have?

cores/threads

[dusky idol]

Ah it's Ryzen 6800hx and 3060 gpu, I don't know exactly how many threads it comes with

16 threads

well there

[quartz kindle]

so heres a thing you could try

Motor uses the Python standard library’s ThreadPoolExecutor to defer network operations to threads. By default, the executor uses at most five threads per CPU core on your system; to override the default set the environment variable MOTOR_MAX_WORKERS.

5*24 = 120 threads max

[dusky idol]

well mine usually goes till 120~ and that's when it becomes laggy, but the problem is that it never comes down from 120 once it hits it as far as I know
I showed the problem to a different person earlier and they said a bot shouldn't ideally go above 50 threads

I think the reason why it goes 120 threads is due to the math you just did

[quartz kindle]

so try setting MOTOR_MAX_WORKERS=1

and see how it goes

not sure if thats global max or max per cpu, or max per process

is your bot sharded?

[dusky idol]

it gets to 120

[dusky idol]

yeh it's autosharded tho

class MyBot(commands.AutoShardedBot):

that way

[quartz kindle]

how many shards rn?

[lyric mountain]

27 shards for 27k guilds?

[quartz kindle]

ah 27

[dusky idol]

that

28* actually

[quartz kindle]

im not sure how sharding works on python, if each shard has a separate db connection or not

but try setting the MOTOR_MAX_WORKERS variable

[lyric mountain]

considering python isn't multithreaded, I'd imagine each shard is a subprocess

[dusky idol]

where do I set it to be precise in the files I just showed you

[dusky idol]

makes sense

[quartz kindle]

its an env variable, you set it when starting the process

MOTOR_MAX_WORKERS=1 python myfile.py

you can also set it using os i think

os.environ['MOTOR_MAX_WORKERS'] = '1'

has to be right at the start of the file, before motor is imported

[dusky idol]

client = AsyncIOMotorClient('mongodb://localhost:27017', maxPoolSize=10)

Shouldn't this be fine or?

lemme try it out

[quartz kindle]

i dont see that option in the latest docs, might have been a thing that was removed

[dusky idol]

Alright so should I put it in the utility.db file or in the main.py where bot is hosted

[quartz kindle]

i checked the code, the variable is accessed on Motor's __init blocks, so its safe to put it anywhere as long as it is before the motor client is created

so yeah you can put it in utility db

[quartz kindle]

it seems the option was changed to options={pool_options={max_pool_size}}

or something like that

here's what it says

property max_pool_size: float
The maximum allowable number of concurrent connections to each connected server. Requests to a server will block if there are maxPoolSize outstanding connections to the requested server. Defaults to 100. Cannot be 0.

When a server’s pool has reached max_pool_size, operations for that server block waiting for a socket to be returned to the pool. If waitQueueTimeoutMS is set, a blocked operation will raise ConnectionFailure after a timeout. By default waitQueueTimeoutMS is not set.

[quartz kindle]

wait actually this should work

docs are so confusing

but still pool size and thread size are two different things, so tyr setting both and see what happens

[dusky idol]

Alright I'm trying with the env method first

[quartz kindle]

alright let me know how it goes

[green kestrel]

anyone else here using the new application emojis yet

[sullen rose]

Yea

[past field]

do #mod-logs only show the declined apps?

[deft wolf]

And bans/mutes

#logs show accepted and edited apps

[past field]

ahh ok i see

[dusky idol]

I set it to 1 first and the database commands became really really slow, I believe it's because ofc it's gonna take a lot longer to update data on db now
But the threads did get limit to 40.
I've now changed it from poolsize of 1 to poolsize of 50, I'm just gonna play with numbers and see where I get a set amount of threads which can run the bot smoothly without taking away from performance maybe
or other approach I've planned is to catche up data more properly

[past field]

i have to apply for intents and if discord accepts i can verify my bot 🎉 idk why im so scared to verify it though.

kinda scared to apply to be top.gg. verified too.

idk y.

[quartz kindle]

yeah find a balance between pool size and threads

as for code improvements, you can cache more and reduce the number of queries

see if you can find queries that can be merged together

for example the pay command could both take money from the user and give money to the other user in a single query

[green kestrel]

how many you got on it

I just started moving mine over to it for one bot today

[dusky idol]

Everyone's a bit nervous when they do it for the first time, always worth it in the end. Top.gg will help you out a lot if you plan properly

[green kestrel]

got 480 emojis in there

[dusky idol]

You're correct, I should work on the code-side optimizations

[quartz kindle]

if your bot gets really really big, you can also switch to an eventual consistency model between db and local caches

[warm surge]

question

does client.channels.fetch can send a message to different channel from another shard?

[digital swan]

Just do the broadcasteval thing you don’t wanna fetch a channel on the wrong shard

I did it once and it started replying to commands twice cause it received events on both clusters

[warm surge]

ahh

[lament rock]

If you're using a rest client without caching the result then yes. Theoretically, you don't even need to fetch a channel to send a message to it if using a proper rest client

any channel ID is valid to send messages to except for category and stage channels

Also, events are never sent to shards for guilds they weren't meant to cover

Thats literally a Discord gateway thing

[prime cliff]

Almost got a stable version of my project ready just need to test the setup page and automatic database setup

[slender wagon]

Hey guys, so i want a very light AI to implement in my bot. What it will essentially do is process certain messages and flag them if they match certain criteria. Are you guys aware of any cheap one i could implement. Again not heavy at all

[fossil trench]

I believe that now we can implement chat gpt with our bot but I don't know how to do it

[earnest phoenix]

wit.ai is free

[surreal sage]

any tips on improving large classes in js?

and it's not a class that gets used once just saying xd

[neon leaf]

What is it for

[surreal sage]

12 methods, 200 lines

bit meh

[surreal sage]

vehicle render culling for game

should i just create files under "utils" and make methods that just invoke those?

[neon leaf]

200 lines is not a lot

Just keep it as is

[surreal sage]

okayyy

[proven lantern]

how's this look for a vote tracking leaderboard page to get people to go to top.gg and vote for my bot?

[slender wagon]

and something else is the bot might get big as it will be a public one

[lyric mountain]

line count rarely matters, your class might be 5000 lines but lighter and faster than a class with 20

[lyric mountain]

make sure you state somewhere that they'll be publicly shown

[proven lantern]

that'll be tricky. maybe i need to add a register command or something

or i could update my top.gg bot description page saying that upvotes will be public

i'm also going to show last months leaderboard once i have that data. it'll be Last Month's Champions

[quartz kindle]

that makes no sense wat

[past field]

do png's have to be a specific size to be in an embed?

[digital swan]

Yeah confused me too but I removed that bit and it started working normally again

Using hybrid sharding so idk if that would make a difference for it

[digital swan]

I don’t believe so

[lyric mountain]

no, it'll be resized down to fit

[past field]

thank you! i got it

i have 3 different versions of my game and i wanted them to be easily distinguished so i just added thumbnails

[past field]

whatcha think?

[deft wolf]

I think that emojis in buttons would be better than just text

[past field]

you might be right, let me see 🤔

[lyric mountain]

Text is a bit cramped too

Also the developed by is a bit unnecessary, aren't u the dev of the bot?

[past field]

yes

just a server promo tactic

@pine willow i accepted your app to own my server by the way

[lyric mountain]

Wouldn't work anyway, they'd see "Developed by @unknown-user"

[pine willow]

which?

ah yea

this one

[past field]

yeahh I'm in every server that the bot is in so I'm leaving it there and gonna take it off before I verify it

It's not verified and I join every server it's in

[civic scroll]

just open source the bot 🧌

put a kofi link there instead

[past field]

i've never looked into open sourcing the bot.. isn't that basically publishing the code for everyone to see?

[civic scroll]

mmm yes

there are a few upsides as well

[lyric mountain]

I don't fear people stealing my bot, not because of license but because I'd be impressed if someone got it working without instructions

[civic scroll]

with that it's undeniable that you made it

[civic scroll]

you underestimated sayuri deep learning framework

watch as i install gradle and rage quit

[past field]

but what are the perks of open sourcing it though?

[lyric mountain]

Deep forgetting framework when

[past field]

someone actually did steal my game lol

they asked for my bot, played it so many times that they re-coded it, kicked my bot out then banned me from their server and renamed it "tap war"

[lyric mountain]

Some tools have free license for OS devs

[civic scroll]

1: it's transparent about about it does
2: people can help improve your bot

[lyric mountain]

And that too

[civic scroll]

my short term memory already does it

[lyric mountain]

Also yes, when u open source the project you'll have a proof of ownership if you ever need to prove

As you'll have the date of when you published

Anyone who contests will have to prove their project existed before yours

[past field]

so i should probably do that asap for top.gg verification sake

and what's the best way to do this?

github?

[lyric mountain]

Github yes

[pine willow]

yes

[civic scroll]

also, license is important too

[pine willow]

gimme your code nom nom nom

https://tenor.com/view/cookie-monster-om-nom-omnomnom-sesame-gif-10644609

[civic scroll]

it has svg

would you take it?

[lyric mountain]

Don't forget a .gitignore btw

Lest you upload your whole node_modules

[past field]

this is all new to me

so i'll need to look into it and learn the steps

[civic scroll]

[lyric mountain]

Do you use anything for versioning?

As in, where is your project saved?

[past field]

ermm, just on my desktop rn

in it's project folder

[wheat mesa]

I highly recommend a visual git software of some kind, whether it be GitHub desktop, SourceTree, GitKraken, etc

[past field]

I've seen github before so I think i'm gonna go with github

[lyric mountain]

Coding without a remote repository is begging for windows to do funny things with your files

[past field]

okay so i just logged into githun

so i should make a public repository?

[wheat mesa]

The software I mentioned all works with GitHub

The things I was talking about is just a way to visualize your repository

[lyric mountain]

Just use git, github has webpage anyway

[wheat mesa]

It’s much easier to get started with than the command line git stuff

SourceTree is free and so is GitHub desktop

I believe there’s also a built in feature for GitHub on visual studio code if you use that

That’ll work just fine

[past field]

yes i use vsc

[wheat mesa]

The wonders of Microsoft’s monopoly over the programming world 💕

[past field]

lol ok so the recommendations are to open source my bot and save my project in another place like git

and license the bot?

[wheat mesa]

That’s what git is meant for, version control

Basically what GitHub does is provides a cloud server for your code pretty much

[past field]

ohhhh

[wheat mesa]

And makes it available to the internet

[civic scroll]

github did my indentation dirty

[wheat mesa]

Git is a software that tracks files on your local system

[past field]

so on git i'd be open sourcing and version controlling

[wheat mesa]

Git tracks your files locally, then you can “commit” those files to a remote location, such as GitHub

[lyric mountain]

Github is a hub for gits, like uhhh...phub is a hub for p

[wheat mesa]

Git does not open source by default. You can have open source and closed source projects being tracked with git

[quartz kindle]

:^)

[wheat mesa]

Git is yeah

Like that

[quartz kindle]

also, licensing is basically just chosing a license type, and adding it to your package.json, optionally also creating a LICENSE.md file with the license terms

if a project does not have any license defined, its assumed to be unlicensed, which means nobody is allowed to do anything with it until you give permission

[quartz kindle]

once you add a license, then you state which things users can and cannot do with your project

[wheat mesa]

Keep in mind that this does not stop anyone from copying your code. In fact, it makes it a lot easier to copy your code. However, you are the owner and it’s easy to prove since it’s there for everyone to see

[quartz kindle]

ofc whether people follow the license correctly or not is up to them, but it does give you legal precedent if you ever need/want to pursue legal action

[wheat mesa]

Most people are really not going to copy your code

It’s rare that you’ll have an issue with that

[quartz kindle]

say that to all the bot clones out there

[wheat mesa]

Eh, I meant having a problem with someone that can genuinely compete with your bot

[solemn latch]

most of those people waant their bot to be cloned imo

[quartz kindle]

tbf people stealing ideas is worse than stealing code most times

especially if they can develop your idea faster than you

[wheat mesa]

Yeah, I’ll admit that I steal code all the time

[solemn latch]

I want someone to steal my ideas, that way I can move onto something else ;p

[quartz kindle]

xD

nobody wants to steal my ideas, they are too complicated

:^)

[solemn latch]

please someone steal my bot description builder idea. that way I can never finish it

[quartz kindle]

xD

[eternal osprey]

Hey guys, i created a turing machine simulator in js but theres one problem, i rather have it compiled to an exe file instead of a website. How would i do so? I waa thinking about electronjs

[quartz kindle]

does it have an UI?

[lyric mountain]

electron alone will triple the resource usage

[quartz kindle]

if not, node has an experimental executable compiler/packager i believe

otherwise pick your poison: electron, nwjs, tauri, ultralight, and dozens of other alternatives

some use webview, some use chromium/other browsers, some use GTK, some use custom engines, some use QT, etc...

[pine willow]

I just created a Bot that removes hoisted names

So when i have the name ! Sky to be at the top. It would change it to Sky

[quartz kindle]

xD

[eternal osprey]

yeah

[eternal osprey]

😭 poison

this automaton shit is fun that i created. only problem is that when we have a loop in the tape it fills your whole ram. So i need to use some detector to detect when there's an infinite loop on the tape

[quartz kindle]

set some sort of loop counter and throw if it exceeds a certain number

[eternal osprey]

it's a bit harder than that.

I don't even think it's a solved problem yet

called the halting problem.

Instead i want to use another turing machine that keeps track of the output of the fiest turing machine and based on that detects whether we have loops.

[quartz kindle]

well cant help with that xD

[eternal osprey]

@solemn latch might be able to help? Right?? Rightt???

[wheat mesa]

It is a solved problem

The solution is that Alan Turing formally proved it was impossible

[quartz kindle]

isnt one of the solutions to reduce/limit the problem?

[wheat mesa]

Maybe, idk that much about it

I just remember having to go over the formal proof that it was fundamentally impossible to solve

[sharp geyser]

Waffle

ur aspnetboilerplate sucks when trying to swap to a diff ef core provider

migrations don't get recognized when they are made

[quartz kindle]

for a second i thought you were speaking german

[wheat mesa]

yeah I’ve been told that the ABP framework is dogshit now

[quartz kindle]

aspnetboilerplate

[wheat mesa]

:c

[sharp geyser]

yea

[wheat mesa]

It’s still useful but it’s apparently very deprecated

[sharp geyser]

and not to mention the only actual information is for https://abp.io which is the successor to aspnetboilerplate

and it is a price gouge

💀

I'd rather just learn how to use aspnet from scratch than that shite

[sage bobcat]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[prime cliff]

@wheat mesa @sharp geyser You don't really need a boilerplate at all, asp.net identity is a free framework made by microsoft for authentication with accounts and database, you can search for any component library using either js/jquery/etc or you can use mvc page or blazor with blazor components

There's a lot of guides and info online for free if you're willing to read and learn 🙂

Then you can make something nice like this (blazor) with built-in accounts and oauth support using asp.net identity

[sharp geyser]

Indeed I know of it

aspnetboilerplate basically just did all you said, but meshed it together for you so you didn't have to bother setting it all up yourself

I definitely think if the boilerplate worked, it'd be good for quick prototyping

Any actual implementation i'd likely do it all myself anyway just because I don't like working with an unfamiliar codebase

[eternal osprey]

No, it is the same as trying to reduce infinity.

Reducing infinity still remains infinity

[jovial palm]

is there any recommand module for chatbot ?

[quartz kindle]

i mean

you dont reduce infinity to infinity

you reduce it into a fixed set / upper bound

like a while(true) that increments and breaks if i > 1000

regardless of program state

its not a real solution to the problem

its a bandaid solution for specific configurations

[prime cliff]

My setup page works fully now with automatic db setup, email system and admin account creation

[civic scroll]

pog

btw you can put those inline

[eternal osprey]

in that case, what if the language that this specific turning machine describes has 150000 loops, and then ends in a final state?

it's a very bold assumption to limit loops

[proven lantern]

just limit it to 150001 loops. that way it's fixed forever and there could never be a problem

[quartz kindle]

:^)

[prime cliff]

It already is inline though 🙃

It's an option menu that's in disable state

[civic scroll]

i meant the option being inline with the label

it didn't hit me right when the options gets plenty of spacing but none better said options vs. the label

[prime cliff]

Eh no really that would also be bad for mobile it really only needs some bottom padding

[civic scroll]

you can make it flex-wrap, if you wish for mobile compat

or grid with 2 columns

[frosty gale]

flex-wap

[quartz kindle]

flex your waps

[frosty gale]

wireless access points?

[quartz kindle]

wealth aquisition potions

[neon leaf]

should I cool my server with a 600m³/h turbine

[rare merlin]

anybody know a good email server i can easily self-host which is lightweight and i can use my own custom domains on?
I have a domain ([e-mail]) which myself and one other should be able to view all emails being sent to this mailbox. i also have another email ([e-mail]) which will only be used to programmatically dispatch emails

[frosty gale]

great.

i hate this server more every day

[frosty gale]

ive tried https://github.com/docker-mailserver/docker-mailserver and its very good and lightweight (assuming you disable the intensive features like virus scanning)

[deft wolf]

All hyperlinks are blocked

[frosty gale]

it also includes an IMAP server for syncing emails

maintainer is also very active

[rare merlin]

i dont know much about email servers, however, we will eventually want to expand into something like support.discord.com, how easy would it be to integrated this email server with something like zendesk or alternatives?
also, does it allow me to have specific emails accessible by multiple users?
and lastly, is it possible to restrict registration so only certain people can make an account?

[frosty gale]

other people wouldnt be able to make a new account anyways unless you install some kind of dashboard, you create the users and mailboxes manually on the server so thats not a problem
as for support, i believe stuff like zendesk allow you to use a custom domain, but the emails are actually routed to their own servers so your server wouldnt receive the tickets, unless you choose to use an open source zendesk alternative that lets you have a ticket system on your own server

since docker mailserver uses postfix which is very common for sending/receiving emails, youd have no problem integrating some kind of open source ticket system with it

[lyric mountain]

may I warn you, prepare for a lot of headache regarding sending emails

[frosty gale]

indeed there is a bit of setup involved to make it work properly

and not get sent to spam immediately

[lyric mountain]

hotmail/gmail will send you to spam on sight without questions asked

[frosty gale]

but if you configure everything correctly you shouldnt have any issues, i have my own custom mailserver and domain and my emails dont get sent to spam, even by gmail

at the beginning they did though until gmail and other providers starts trusting your emails

[rare merlin]

do you have any good setup articles you would recommend (other than docs)

im using ubuntu too for context

[frosty gale]

the best place is probably the setup documentation https://docker-mailserver.github.io/docker-mailserver/v10.1/examples/tutorials/basic-installation/

there is quite a bit of mail server jargon to understand so if you dont know much about mail signing techniques or how mail servers work read this https://docker-mailserver.github.io/docker-mailserver/latest/introduction/

otherwise you risk not understanding everything

[rare merlin]

when i run this, it gives me 2024-08-30 19:25:50+00:00 WARN open-dkim: No entries found, no keys to make. not quite sure why?
im not familiar with dkim and i tried googling this but cant see anything

[frosty gale]

did you get a key file? you probably havent copied it in the right place

[deft wolf]

My bot is officially doomed. Two weeks ago someone made a post on Reddit that they were looking for a bot similar to mine because they won't add mine due to the offensive name

-1 server I guess

[warm surge]

RIP

send me the reddit url

[lyric mountain]

you'll never recover from this

[earnest phoenix]

which is (the name)

[green kestrel]

anyone here use mongodb in their bot?

if so, have you read their "open source" (lol) license recently

[pine willow]

me

i use it all the time

[green kestrel]

apparently if you use it, and you use it in a service (this includes BOTS) you have to make ALL the following open source

[pine willow]

nuh uh

[green kestrel]

 Corresponding Source for the Program or the modified version, and the Corresponding Source for all programs that you use to make the Program or modified version available as a service, including, without limitation, management software, user interfaces, application program interfaces, automation software, monitoring software, backup software, storage software and hosting software, all such that a user could run an instance of the service using the Service Source Code you make available.

so

[pine willow]

switching to MySQL lul

[green kestrel]

you have to make open your backups, databases, user interfaces, automations, monitoring softeware, backups, backup software, hosting software

[pine willow]

The fuck

[green kestrel]

i dont use mongo, but just learned about this from a yt video

and if you think im gaslighting, https://www.mongodb.com/legal/licensing/server-side-public-license

section 13

their "foss" license is bullshit

[pine willow]

I wont make my shit open source

should they go cry or smth

[green kestrel]

and youre responsible for making it ALL downloadable on YOUR servers lol

right down to linux source

[frosty gale]

redditard lol

[green kestrel]

the kernel and everything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v72pNaincM

[frosty gale]

they probably wont bother going after small services though it would only become a problem once youre big or just dont like you then they can go "youre breaking our license"

[green kestrel]

but still

do you want to deal with their bullshit?

and its not just mongo doing this, check the vid

OSI has basically spoken out about some of these and said theyre nothing but a booby trap to hit projects with once they become a success

[frosty gale]

but yeah it isnt charming whatsoever

[green kestrel]

redis is another obvious one

[frosty gale]

redis honestly isnt anything too impressive when it comes to its software

in a nut shell a cache server, definitely many alternatives or forks of it

memcached is good i heard

[green kestrel]

i use a memory table in mysql

[frosty gale]

yeah anything will work really

technically they dont say theyre open source

only that the source is available

who would wanna use mongo for anything serious anyways

[warm surge]

question

how you ssl mongodb

[frosty gale]

aside from using their atlas service, where they deal with the performance implications of their database, i dont see anyone seriously self hosting mongodb for a business

way too clunky

this is for people that mostly dont know how to design traditional relational databases

[neon flicker]

Too bad, your karma will never recover ever again

[green kestrel]

no idea, i dont use it

[quartz kindle]

you put it behind a reverse proxy like nginx, or behind a service like cloudflare

mongo itself probably does have ssl config somewhere, but it would be safer to proxy it i guess

[warm surge]

ahhh

[proven lantern]

Yeah, self-hosing a database is not what serious companies do.

[pearl trail]

what serious companies do

[prime cliff]

What do you need remote database access for anyway? Just for development/testing or cross-vps access?

[proven lantern]

Yeah, just develop everything on one machine and only grow vertically.

[prime cliff]

No what i was getting at xD

More of you can use a few SSH clients to setup a tunnel from your computer to the server to access localhost resources instead of configuring and exposing stuff (if you don't have a firewall setup)

That's if you don't need cross-vps access

[proven lantern]

run the webserver on the arbiter node and bot as a cluster on the replica nodes

couple everything together

[warm surge]

i was wondering because it kept saying enable ssl and tsl

somthing like that

[prime cliff]

But do you need it for development on your computer or cross-vps access?

[lament rock]

What's up with redis?

[warm surge]

nah i was just wondering

[rose warren]

You could use this API? €9/month for 10k words per day
https://www.neutrinoapi.com/api/bad-word-filter/

Or just build some good regex filters

[lament rock]

regex likely isnt the way to go

You need to have some pre processing to convert unicode characters to the A-Z range which is an exhaustive list then you can walk the words list. Even then, bad words are contextual like a common one being the name of a country is very close to a slur

[neon flicker]

Do you think AI will somehow someday replace programmers? As a young programmer, this question has always been in my mind, and I always overthink about it and it sometimes makes me feel really uncomfortable

[deft wolf]

AI will never replace me, there is no way AI will become so fucked up

[earnest phoenix]

no

[neon flicker]

What makes you think in this way?

[lament rock]

Possibly eventually, but a future to that may be a distance away. A lot of stuff that Ai just cannot handle right now is how interactions between unknown/new libs are in their code bases and topics that just haven't really been talked about. A lot of stuff can be "hallucinated" leading to errors. A lot of code is also made for addressing human issues and these issues may be horribly nuanced which would require human intervention through multiple steps or a prompt be incredibly specific.

[earnest phoenix]

ai is literally just LLM, it doesnt really "think"

its all numbers

[neon flicker]

For now, though

[earnest phoenix]

and its based on your code

[earnest phoenix]

yea ive seen copilot say random stuff that doesnt exist

[neon flicker]

Well, I also think it will eventually be possible, however it's really hard to predict the future due to how fast technology improves

[earnest phoenix]

also the ai trend is slowly but surely dying

[lament rock]

The thing that people need to start worrying about is AGi (Artificial General Intelligence). We currently have ANi (Artificial Narrow Intelligence) where, as reis said, most Ais today are really just LLMs at their core.

[neon flicker]

It is, as it's turning into such a normal thing in daily life

People either use it a lot while doing their daily work or they just haven't ever heard of AI

[lament rock]

But one that's really able to experience the world and be devout towards self improvement in all or specific fields will be troublesome. So long as they have the tools to actually do that. The logic behind such a thing is also very hard to picture

The limiting factor right now is data. They don't experience the world like we do

[proven lantern]

cheapest way i can think of is to convert a profanity filter list into a map. Then split the text input by spaces and iterate over each word and do a map lookup to see if any of the words are in the list.
https://huggingface.co/datasets/shawarmas/profanity-filter/blob/main/list.txt

[slender wagon]

Yo this is great! Gotta contact them cuz imagine a bot in a few thousands servers and imagine the cost 💀

[slender wagon]

thank you!

[earnest phoenix]

Alternatively, https://help.openai.com/en/articles/4936833-is-the-moderation-endpoint-free-to-use

[neon leaf]

🔥

[sharp geyser]

wtf is happening

its causing this

[frosty gale]

nginx misconfiguration type shi

[real rose]

just open the link

not that hard fr

[strong kindle]

@earnest phoenix @earnest phoenix @earnest phoenix ong

[earnest phoenix]

what

[surreal sage]

is this a trap

[sharp geyser]

forgot ssl

I provided keys

but didn't tell nginx to actually use ssl

[frosty gale]

webassembly users realising javascript is still faster for web related stuff

[surreal sage]

3 hours

34 minutes

[prime cliff]

Yea because people choose web assembly because it's totally faster /s

Web assembly is more used for actual client side apps and experience in your own languages without being restricted by javascript even if it has inital downloading and loading times

Also the only reason why web assembly has these issues is because browsers and big companies like Google don't want to invest into it

[civic scroll]

another problem is security

what happens when you allow wasm to do the same capabilities of javascript?

[prime cliff]

Javascript is already sandboxed

[civic scroll]

question is, can one implement a sandbox for wasm in the same way that works for js

but that would be a separate team, i think

and isn't v8 very beeg

[quartz kindle]

i believe wasm already has its own sandbox no?

[late crest]

Hey, are there any expert in wavelink?

[frosty gale]

expert has a very broad meaning

[late crest]

Okay, someone who is familiar with wavelink/lavalink and knows/understands what he/she/* is doing.

[earnest phoenix]

why not just ask your question

[digital swan]

Is the reward an ice cream

[proven lantern]

It does. That's why rust is a bad idea for wasm and zig is great.

[warm surge]

no

@clear plinth this one 2 and there one in general somewhere

[bitter granite]

No

[void storm]

Is this the place for bot stuff?

[pine willow]

yes

[void storm]

Ok so i'm trying to make a bot.

[pine willow]

yea?

[void storm]

IDK how to.

[proven lantern]

@pine willow knows how to. They will help you

[pine willow]

wha

who said that

[void storm]

But the concept around the bot is simple.

Well the character of the bot.

[pine willow]

Do you know a programming language?

js or py?

[void storm]

I know nothing.

[pine willow]

or any other

[proven lantern]

Just use AI to code it for you

[pine willow]

No.

DO NOT do that.

[proven lantern]

Sky will help then

[foggy jewel]

lol

[void storm]

Well um the character of the bot is a female Tiger Shark from the game "Changed".

[pine willow]

And what should the bot do???

[proven lantern]

AI made this.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/385837258768515083/1279783283034427402/fractal.gif?ex=66d5b28f&is=66d4610f&hm=31d83398ea2b11e526e3306a4c0d847d836fded5902aea09d472e780e8d437e6&

[void storm]

Be silly, chat, act like the character.

[void storm]

My goodness.

[pine willow]

You can use shapes.inc for that... Its a Ai chatbot service for discord bots

[void storm]

Can you DM me the link?

[pine willow]

https://shapes.inc/

[void storm]

THat will work.

Thx.

[pine willow]

Login/sign up. Give the bot a personality and yea

The bad thing is. When the bot joins a server it will write some text

[void storm]

Yeah, ik, have many bots.

Just not chatty ones.

[foggy jewel]

i have my own ai bot many more

[pliant beacon]

hello, yesterday i added the server count to my bot top.gg page and im checking it rn but it's not being updated
(in the logs it's saying Successfully updated server count on Top.gg but it still say 160)

[spark flint]

its cached quite heavily on top.gg's side

try going to https://top.gg/bot/1213495446035628072/edit, add a random space in the description and then save

that will refresh cache

[pliant beacon]

ok thank you, let me try that

now it worked

[pliant beacon]

also i need to do that every day?
(in my code i have it to update every 60 minutes)

[spark flint]

nope

you dont need to worry about having an accurate up to date count

it will refresh cache every few hours

[pliant beacon]

you mean i don't need to have it to update every 60 minutes in my bot code?

[spark flint]

thats up to you

the server count is just a metric shown on the site and doesn't really mean anything else

[pliant beacon]

ok got it, thank you

[pine willow]

Your username just reminded me to work on my bot

[foggy jewel]

why

lol

[pine willow]

I created a Anti hoisting bot.

! Sky would be changed to Sky

automatic

[foggy jewel]

how?

[pine willow]

Nicknames??

[foggy jewel]

hm

[neon leaf]

just switch to #

[pine willow]

My bot has more then !

....

Makes sense?

[neon leaf]

what about 0

[foggy jewel]

wow nice bro

[neon leaf]

problem is that you can always hoist

no matter what chars you block

[pine willow]

All chars that are used for hoisting

[pine willow]

Why

[neon leaf]

000000000000000000 Myname and you are at the top

like im also third in the list right now with just my normal name

since it has a 0 at the start

[foggy jewel]

do you wanna see my bot ?

[pine willow]

???

[neon leaf]

yeah but people will just go one char down

one 0 is enough

if you block that they use 1

and so on

forever

[pine willow]

sure

[pine willow]

I will find a way to prevent hoisting completly

at some point

[neon leaf]

its not really possible

[pine willow]

Never seen someone trying it

[foggy jewel]

svr link on my bio plz join bot Name VIson

[neon leaf]

yeah because its not possible

[pine willow]

if you say so

[sage bobcat]

One message removed from a suspended account.

One message removed from a suspended account.

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[neon leaf]

yeah

[sage bobcat]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[neon leaf]

its a cat and mouse game

[sage bobcat]

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[neon leaf]

just make every username

[earnest phoenix]

just enforce starting the username with an ascii character fr

[neon leaf]

0000 Im_Cool frfr

[earnest phoenix]

oh wait 0 is also ascii

so are other numbers

and i can still advertise when my name starts with A too

[neon leaf]

yep

thats my point

its impossible

[earnest phoenix]

fr

also its not that really useful

[pearl trail]

it's not like 100% of the people that see it are interested anyways

not even half, idk that's my own stats

[eternal osprey]

in discord how do i change the channel name to something like:

👤 | Test

this person did it

[deft wolf]

You need special symbol

[eternal osprey]

empty ascii symbol i assume?

[deft wolf]

Try this one ︱

[eternal osprey]

seems to be escaping the spaces

[deft wolf]

That's mobile no?

[eternal osprey]

nope

[surreal sage]

real ones see the problem

[earnest phoenix]

correct, using ts

[surreal sage]

incorrect

require() in esm

[neon leaf]

I guess i need to retry fleet

maybe its gotten better

[harsh nova]

Sometimes you can't escape it tho Had to use old require for my command manager

[earnest phoenix]

you cant use require in esm tho iirc

[raven nexus]

Hi, i have this bug i do have change it beteween the defereply and editreply it show show error

const { ApplicationCommandType, EmbedBuilder, ApplicationCommandOptionType } = require('discord.js');
const axios = require('axios');

module.exports = {
    name: 'lookup',
    description: "Look up a Minecraft player's online status and last login time",
    type: ApplicationCommandType.ChatInput,
    cooldown: 10000, // Cooldown of 10 seconds
    options: [
        {
            name: 'player',
            description: 'Minecraft player username',
            type: ApplicationCommandOptionType.String,
            required: true // The player option is required
        }
    ],
    run: async (client, interaction) => {
        const playerName = interaction.options.getString('player');

        try {
            // Send an initial response to acknowledge the interaction
            await interaction.reply({ content: '🔄 Fetching player data, please wait...', ephemeral: true });

            // Define the API URL and your Hypixel API key (replace with your actual key)
            const apiKey = process.env.APIKEY;
            const url = `https://api.hypixel.net/player?key=${apiKey}&name=${playerName}`;

            // Fetch the player's data from the Hypixel API
            const response = await axios.get(url);
            const playerData = response.data;

            if (!playerData.success) {
                // If fetching player data fails
                return await interaction.editReply({ content: '❌ Failed to fetch player data. Please check the username and try again.', ephemeral: true });
            }

            // Extract the necessary information
            const { lastLogin, online } = playerData.player;
            const lastLoginDate = new Date(lastLogin).toLocaleString();
            const onlineStatus = online ? 'Online' : 'Offline';

            // Create an embed to display the player's status
            const embed = new EmbedBuilder()
                .setTitle(`Minecraft Player Lookup: ${playerName}`)
                .setColor(online ? '#00FF00' : '#FF0000') // Green for online, Red for offline
                .addFields(
                    { name: 'Status', value: onlineStatus, inline: true },
                    { name: 'Last Login', value: lastLoginDate, inline: true }
                )
                .setFooter({ text: `Requested by ${interaction.user.tag}`, iconURL: interaction.user.displayAvatarURL({ dynamic: true }) })
                .setTimestamp();

            // Edit the initial response with the final result
            await interaction.editReply({ content: ' ', embeds: [embed] });

        } catch (error) {
            console.error('Error fetching player data:', error.message);
            // Handle errors and send a final message
            await interaction.editReply({ content: '❌ An error occurred while fetching player data. Please try again later.', ephemeral: true });
        }
    }
};

What should i do?
Error [InteractionNotReplied]: The reply to this interaction has not been sent or deferred.

[raven nexus]

like this?

[quartz kindle]

where is the error coming from? can you show the full error stack trace?

[quartz kindle]

can i see index.js around line 214?

[raven nexus]

// Handle slash commands
client.on('interactionCreate', async interaction => {
    if (!interaction.isCommand()) return;

    const { commandName } = interaction;
    const command = client.commands.get(commandName);

    if (!command) return;

    try {
        if (command.userPerms || command.botPerms) {
            if (!interaction.memberPermissions.has(PermissionsBitField.resolve(command.userPerms || []))) 
                return interaction.reply({ content: `You don't have \`${command.userPerms}\` permissions.`, ephemeral: true });
            if (!interaction.guild.members.cache.get(client.user.id).permissions.has(PermissionsBitField.resolve(command.botPerms || []))) 
                return interaction.reply({ content: `I don't have \`${command.botPerms}\` permissions.`, ephemeral: true });
        }
        await command.run(client, interaction);
    } catch (error) {
        console.error('Error handling command:', error);
        await interaction.reply({ content: 'There was an error while executing this command!', ephemeral: true });
    }
});```

[quartz kindle]

which line exactly is 214?

[raven nexus]

        await interaction.reply({ content: 'There was an error while executing this command!', ephemeral: true })```

[quartz kindle]

alright i see whats going on

await command.run(client, interaction); may cause an error before or after a defer/reply. if the error happens after a defer/reply, the error block cannot use reply on the same interaction

you can check whether the interaction has already been replied to or not

if yes, use editReply or followup

if no, then you can use reply

you can test whether a reply was already sent or not using if(interaction.replied)

also, to avoid unhandled error event, you need to add a .catch() to it inside the catch block

as well as inside the permission checks (or add await to them there)

[raven nexus]

ok

[quartz kindle]

for example:

            if (!interaction.memberPermissions.has(PermissionsBitField.resolve(command.userPerms || []))) {
                await interaction.reply({ content: `You don't have \`${command.userPerms}\` permissions.`, ephemeral: true });
                return;
            }
            if (!interaction.guild.members.cache.get(client.user.id).permissions.has(PermissionsBitField.resolve(command.botPerms || []))) {
                await interaction.reply({ content: `I don't have \`${command.botPerms}\` permissions.`, ephemeral: true });
                return;
            }

    } catch (error) {
        console.error('Error handling command:', error);
        if(interaction.replied) {
            interaction.editReply({ content: 'There was an error while executing this command!', ephemeral: true })
            .catch(e => console.error("an error occured trying to send an error message"));
        } else {
            interaction.reply({ content: 'There was an error while executing this command!', ephemeral: true })
            .catch(e => console.error("an error occured trying to send an error message"));
        }
    }

or you can add another try {} catch {} with await in there

[raven nexus]

okay

i am confuse abit with above

const { Collection, PermissionsBitField } = require('discord.js');
const ms = require('ms');

const cooldowns = new Collection();

module.exports = (client) => {
    client.on('interactionCreate', async interaction => {
        if (interaction.type === 4 && interaction.commandName) {
            const command = client.commands.get(interaction.commandName);
            if (command && command.autocomplete) {
                const choices = [];
                await command.autocomplete(interaction, choices);
                return;
            }
        }

        if (interaction.type !== 2) return;

        const command = client.commands.get(interaction.commandName);
        if (!command) {
            client.commands.delete(interaction.commandName);
            return;
        }

        try {
            // Check for cooldown
            if (command.cooldown) {
                const key = `${command.name}-${interaction.user.id}`;
                if (cooldowns.has(key)) {
                    const remaining = ms(cooldowns.get(key) - Date.now(), { long: true });
                    return interaction.reply({ content: `Please wait ${remaining} before reusing this command.`, ephemeral: true });
                }

                cooldowns.set(key, Date.now() + command.cooldown);
                setTimeout(() => cooldowns.delete(key), command.cooldown);
            }

            // Permission checks
            if (command.userPerms || command.botPerms) {
                if (command.userPerms && !interaction.memberPermissions.has(PermissionsBitField.resolve(command.userPerms))) {
                    return interaction.reply({ content: `You don't have \`${command.userPerms.join(', ')}\` permissions.`, ephemeral: true });
                }
                if (command.botPerms && !interaction.guild.members.cache.get(client.user.id).permissions.has(PermissionsBitField.resolve(command.botPerms))) {
                    return interaction.reply({ content: `I don't have \`${command.botPerms.join(', ')}\` permissions.`, ephemeral: true });
                }
            }

            // Run the command
            await command.run(client, interaction);

        } catch (error) {
            console.error('Error handling command:', error);
            if (interaction.replied || interaction.deferred) {
                await interaction.editReply({ content: 'There was an error while executing this command!', ephemeral: true }).catch(console.error);
            } else {
                await interaction.reply({ content: 'There was an error while executing this command!', ephemeral: true }).catch(console.error);
            }
        }
    });
};

[quartz kindle]

looks like this is a command error, lookup.js

[raven nexus]

possible i could make if the console has error make it send to the reply of bot

[quartz kindle]

can you show lookup.js?

[quartz kindle]

hmmm

from what i can see, axios throws an error on non-2xx status codes

so if you get an error in const response = await axios.get(url);, it will go directly to the catch() {} block, whichi explains the Error fetching player data: in your logs

but i dont know where unknown message is coming from

its being caused by guildMessageManager.edit()

but i dont see any message.edit() or initialReply.edit() in that code

is there any more code in there?

[raven nexus]

i try change to

[quartz kindle]

what is different?

[raven nexus]

the interaction.XXX

[quartz kindle]

looks the same to me

[raven nexus]

what should i change then or it cant do anything?

[quartz kindle]

for the unknown message error, i think you already changed it because i dont see where in the code it can be from

would need to test and see if a new error comes up

if you want the try catch from the interactionCreate.js to catch errors inside commands, then you need to either throw an error or let an error bubble up from inside the commands

[raven nexus]

so i just need to put console.log(error)?

now it work but it showing this

*Only you can see this

[quartz kindle]

if the first reply is ephemeral, then all other edits will also be ephemeral i think

i dont know if you can change ephemeral type after intial response

if first reply is ephemeral, then all are ephemeral
if first reply is not ephemeral, then all are not ephemeral

only a followup can be different, an editreply cannot

[raven nexus]

[outer hull]

I'm a competent and enthusiastic 3D artist who specializes in character and game model design. I am proficient in reference / idea creation, sculpting, texturing, rigging, and animation, and I can bring any character to life with my expertise. I have a strong understanding of game platforms and can develop characters that are suitable for a variety of games applications. I am a collaborative and deadline-oriented professional who is committed to delivering high-quality models that meet the needs of clients and developers and I was wondering if anyone have any commission request as my commission is currently open for different services relating to mod, 3D models both nsfw, furry, humaniod and non humaniod avatars, i also do edit to existing models…

[wheat mesa]

Not the place for that

[raven nexus]

not here

[prime cliff]

They left probably a scam too

[sharp geyser]

Seems like a steal

[void storm]

Hello?

It's me again.

I was here a lot earlier today.

I have a quesition.

See i have 2 bots and i want them to keep talking to each other without me sending anything in the chat for them to continue chatting.

I'm using Shapes, Inc if that helps.

So is there like a toggle or a switch or something that i need to turn or to fix this or something else?

Is anyone going to help me?

I spent all day working on these 2 bots.

I don't want it to go to waste. (T_T)

[quartz kindle]

with slash commands its impossible

with text/prefix commands is possible, but you have to ask if shapes allows it

because those pre-build systems like shapes often ignore messages from other bots by default

[void storm]

I changed the first letter from upper case to lower case i even went into perfered name to be called i even went to converational example

I even used @s

In text.

Their name in the same chat .

with @s

[quartz kindle]

well, your issue is specifically about the shapes' system, so you will have to ask them

[void storm]

Imma keep on trying to see if i can find somethin'.

[quartz kindle]

with regular code it would be fairly easy to do

[void storm]

Code?

[quartz kindle]

but systems like shapes are often limited in what they offer

[void storm]

What code?

[quartz kindle]

coding/programming

like javascript, python, etc

[warm surge]

tim are you a robot?

[void storm]

Do they work with discord bots?

[quartz kindle]

perchance

[warm surge]

👀

[quartz kindle]

yes, most people make bots using a real programming language, not premade systems

[void storm]

Can you send me a link to one?

[quartz kindle]

have you ever coded before?

[void storm]

Nope, i have no experince in code stuff before.

[quartz kindle]

then you would need to learn some basics first

[warm surge]

^ i use javascript to create oliver for emaple (spelling went out the window)

[void storm]

.......

[quartz kindle]

pick a programming language, for example some good to start with languages are javascript, python, C#, java

[warm surge]

i started off taking classes during school hours

[quartz kindle]

and look for some guides, or courses

[warm surge]

or watch youtube

first time coding a discord bot i used youtube start off with discord api

[quartz kindle]

after you chose a language, you will chose a discord library/package for that specific language. most languages have multiple options to chose from

for example javascript has discord.js, eris, oceanic, detritus, and more

[warm surge]

im thinking trying oceanic as client

[void storm]

Thx for the help.

[foggy jewel]

hi

[late crest]

hi

[harsh aspen]

hi

[lyric mountain]

buddy try to get active members instead

[lament rock]

The voices in your head are telling you that managed libraries suck and you should just use the raw API or rather low level wrappers around the raw API like snowtransfer and cloudstorm

Anyways, there's my weekly not really ad but kinda ad

You can immediately or almost immediately support new Discord features and have full control over caching and fetching objects which puts the memory footprint in your control. Not immediately jumping to > 100MB just by importing a module is also really cool. The CPU overhead of a lot of these modules are also insane. When I switched from Discord.js to raw api, my bot had huge problems with message create eating up the most process tick time to almost or > 1 second per command and just switching and the conversion no added optimizations brought the performance inline

[harsh nova]

You also don't have to rewrite your bot every time d.js decides to change the methods required to create an embed footer for the 4th time that week

[proven lantern]

you dont even need a server

[frosty gale]

lol repl.it is basically paid now and they banned pinging

theyve gone full corporate https://replit.com/

[neon leaf]

3 public repos for free smh

It was nice to use for testing projects

[deft wolf]

[lyric mountain]

it was banned quite a long ago

I suppose waving a banner saying "We haz bot host free, glitch bad" didn't work well

[prime cliff]

No way hosting costs money totally a corporate move

[frosty gale]

not in that sense, in the sense they now look like every other corporate page

[neon leaf]

yeah it all went downhill after they added ai

[frosty gale]

obnoxious landing page animations ✅
pricing page in header ✅
learn more button in every section while scrolling ✅
slogan on top of landing page ✅
get a demo button ✅

verdict = corporate page

[quartz kindle]

help me design a saas website that doesnt look corporate then

i need features, pricing and demo (working demo without login, not sign up to receive a demo)

[radiant sinew]

Hey it's not for support related to top.gg, but I wanted to ask, which service you use for website video ads, because google adsense it's not up for video ads on website.. but only mobile. And we want to integrate ads on our service

[lyric mountain]

video ads on websites dont really work unless you're planning to actually play it in-between video content (like youtube)

reason being you cannot have autoplay audio, and nobody is going to press play on an ad

[naive pulsar]

      <DropdownMenu  aria-label="Example with disabled actions" disabledKeys={["edit", "delete"]}>
      {languages.map(({ code, name, flag }) => (
        <DropdownItem onPress={() => router.push(`/${code}`)} endContent={<Image src={flag} sizes='sm'/>} key={code}>
        {name}
        </DropdownItem>
      ))}
      </DropdownMenu>

i'm using i18n next router to my multi lang website but when i use router push not change a lang for inknown reason

here a vid for more understand

[summer mortar]

https://github.com/code30x58/reality-s-lost-ice/issues/4#issue-2501825908

[deft wolf]

This link doesn't work, at least for me.

[prime cliff]

r/hmmmm

[pseudo grotto]

guys whats the purpose of sending logs through webhooks instead of directly via the bot. does it help with rate limits or smth? im talking about big bots like Dyno... i think it could be causing my rate-limit problem which requires me to shard into 4 right now even though im only at 1200 servers... i can only think of logging as causing the problems that rate-limit my bot for an hour on startup unless i shard it into 4. everything else only activates and runs after an user executes a command so it doesnt make sense...

im talking about like member update, role update, etc. logs

[green kelp]

Why wouldn’t I be able to add the Minecraft server status bot to my discord

[small tangle]

Read the red text

[deft wolf]

He has already received help on #support. He couldn't find the support server to contact the owner

[pearl trail]

webhook on channel's limit is 30 sent webhooks (msgs)/minute

[pseudo grotto]

so its seperate from my bot's rate limit?

and if someone has a lot of logs coming in, it could be help to counter rate limits on my bot for sending too many messsages?

[frosty gale]

yeah

but in general it depends on preference

personally id keep general logs off-platform while maybe having the more serious logs like errors be logged on a webhook as well

[naive pulsar]

It's a long story

[quartz kindle]

sharding doesnt really affect rest api limits (unless you're abusing gateway requests), so your issue might be originating elsewhere

[rare merlin]

how does top.gg build their dynamic site map, creating "paginated" sitemaps for bots? I would like to achieve something similar for my blog / forums website
https://top.gg/dynamic-sitemap.xml

[solemn latch]

Top.gg uses nextjs, and likely uses their dynamic sitemap generation.

https://nextjs.org/learn-pages-router/seo/crawling-and-indexing/xml-sitemaps

[frosty gale]

I have a bit of a unique request, I have an authentication server and I want to put some apps behind it so it will only proxy requests through to the app if the user is authenticated with that gateway, but I'm not sure if I could do something like this with Nginx where all requests first hit my authentication server endpoint, and if the server responds positively to Nginx it will proxy the request to the app in question with some additional headers, is this possible or would I have to do the second proxy to the app through the authentication server?

[lyric mountain]

you can pass cookies around no?

[frosty gale]

yeah why?

[lyric mountain]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/26128412/how-to-extract-some-value-from-cookie-in-nginx

have the auth endpoint set a cookie, then read from nginx

[frosty gale]

thing is I want clients to not be able to touch the app at all until the authentication server authorizes them
what i sort of envision is that the authentication server will first intercept any request directed towards a specific app, sort of like cloudflare under attack mode but without the DNS part, so it will appear on the same domain and path and not under another endpoint

[lyric mountain]

yes, you can control the redirects right from nginx

have it redirect to auth endpoint everytime the cookie isn't present/invalid

[frosty gale]

how would this look like with nginx config? can I just redirect to another internal url?

[lyric mountain]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/29278910/nginx-redirect-a-user-based-on-cookie-for-a-specific-url-only

I cant really explain much cuz I'm not too far into nginx-fu, I just know it's possible

[naive pulsar]

how i can change a lang for i18n next router i used

router.push("/de")

and not working its still goes to /en not /de

[quartz kindle]

you want the app to not require any auth validation at all?

or does the app validate as well?

[lyric mountain]

she wants a "gatekeeper" basically

dont allow any access without going through it

[frosty gale]

i think i can do this with an nginx module

its called auth_request and does exactly what i want to do

https://nginx.org/en/docs/http/ngx_http_auth_request_module.html

it also lets me set headers from a result of the first request

[quartz kindle]

oh i completely forgot that existed

actually im gonna use that myself tbh

[frosty gale]

looks like people usually use it for active directory

but my server isnt cursed with microsoft yet so i just have my own auth server

[quartz kindle]

xD

[frosty gale]

how do i even configure nginx to add this module though

ive never had to add a module to nginx before

i installed it through apt so its running under systemctl

[neon leaf]

its implemented in 1.5.4+

no need to add it

[frosty gale]

what about this

This module is not built by default, it should be enabled with the --with-http_auth_request_module configuration parameter.

[neon leaf]

nginx -V

its there

the message is just for when you are compiling from scratch

[frosty gale]

oh shit

so it is

diabolical using O2 optimization

real programmers live on the edge and use OFast

[rare merlin]

im using nextjs but im using app directory rather than pages. do you know how i could do it using app?

[solemn latch]

https://nextjs.org/docs/app/api-reference/file-conventions/metadata/sitemap#generating-a-sitemap-using-code-js-ts

[rare merlin]

i was looking at this, but the part I don't understand is this:

export async function generateSitemaps() {
  // Fetch the total number of products and calculate the number of sitemaps needed
  return [{ id: 0 }, { id: 1 }, { id: 2 }, { id: 3 }]
}```

say if I had 10,000 posts, would I have an array of 10,000 objects?

[solemn latch]

Yep

[rare merlin]

and that would create 10,000 sitemaps with 1 url each correct?

[solemn latch]

If you wanted to go that route you can.

[rare merlin]

i ideally want to fetch all posts then split them into sitemaps of 50k urls

[solemn latch]

I haven't worked with large sitemaps before, so when you want multiple that's beyond my knowledge

[rare merlin]

yeah:

oh i misread

[solemn latch]

Yeah, so if you have 10,000 you just want one sitemap

[rare merlin]

10,000 was just an example number, it's more like a million plus and indefinitely scalable

[solemn latch]

👀 Google won't index all of them unless you have a ton of traffic

You may hurt your SEO by dumping an insanely large sitemap onto Google

The last time I had a larger sitemap(a few thousand pages) Google took quite awhile to index it all just because it was all low traffic content

[rare merlin]

this is my first time working with SEO / sitemaps etc so I'm just trying to get used to it, I assume if theres too many google would just 'give up'? if this is the case, should i sort my data by most relevant

[solemn latch]

There's priority and stuff if you need it.

But my preferred way is just to index less at first and focus on SEO on priority pages.
Then add more as I go.

Just so you establish yourself first

[rare merlin]

alright. the only reason i want to include all posts is because i want them to be indexed depending on the content of that post i suppose, e.g. whenever you google for an article, for example how to include multiple sitemaps then it would show up (however this is just an example)

@solemn latch would have 2 different sitemaps be a better approach?

/app/sitemap.ts -> base urls
/app/posts/sitemap.ts -> posts

[foggy jewel]

@bitter granite

[quartz kindle]

Your bot has a command -warn which requires Manage message. Please make sure your bot only requires permissions it truly needs.

[foggy jewel]

oh thanks

[pearl trail]

chat, is there really any difference between == and === ?

[neon leaf]

yes

20 == "20" // true

[deft wolf]

I think A

[neon leaf]

20 === "20" // false

[pearl trail]

oh

thank you guys!

[winged linden]

Question, Can i monetize my app if i am outside the supported countires but i have a global bank (wise for example)?

(Asking for the ones who tested it, and i am speaking about built in discord monetization)

[sharp geyser]

From what I recall in the new terms, that are not taking effect until October, is that yes you can.

If you have other means to collect payment, and cannot use the built in monetization feature, they allow you to do so elsewhere

[void storm]

Ok i got a question.

What model should i have my shape/BOT use? I'm using Shapes, Inc.

Hello?

[quartz kindle]

to do what?

[void storm]

To be good?

Better.

[quartz kindle]

well, in either case it wont be accepted in top.gg if you try to add it

[void storm]

No it, shows an AI model panel that i can have it use.

I'll screen shot it.

[quartz kindle]

sure, give it try, im just saying you wont be able to get it listed in the top.gg bot list if you go public

[quartz kindle]

but its fine for a personal bot