im sorry
#development
sharp geyser
eternal osprey
your punchline shit asf
quartz kindle
while(true){}
neon leaf
should I replace every if in my code with a while that has a break at the end
so if i return early my program explodes
pearl trail
sure
quartz kindle
:^)
pearl trail
you forgot the >> /mnt/public/update
pearl trail
pearl trail
o7
sharp geyser
Do I need to use ssl on my desktop app
Im not exactly sure how electron or tauri works, but they are essentially just bundled web browsers that open a single website no?
quartz kindle
pretty much
you dont need ssl
its the same as opening a local html file with the browser
sharp geyser
hm
then how does it securely talk to external apis
Like how does discord function "securely"
earnest phoenix
Good that you added quotes :)
quartz kindle
then how does it securely talk to external apis
you dont need ssl on the client side to request pages via https
your computer already has all the certificates it needs for a client
pearl trail
electron is basically Google chrome but can only open specified page
you can do fetch just like in browser
quartz kindle
yeah its dumb to bundle a whole browser for a desktop app
sharp geyser
tauri is better
but has 1 downside
It uses the native web view bundled with the OS
but if the OS pushes an update that breaks that webview then your app also breaks
💀
quartz kindle
im very interested in tauri, never tried it, but will probably give it a try when their android/ios support is better
sharp geyser
yea
I think they are mainly focusing on the desktop aspect
Especially since cross compliation is a WIP
You can still use github actions to cross compile for windows, linux and macos
but they want to offer a built in tool at some point
pearl trail
how different is tauri from electron?
sharp geyser
very
In terms of how its used
Electron is basically pure html, js and css
tauri is html, js and css, but you use rust as the "backend" of the desktop app
pearl trail
oh damn
sharp geyser
any expensive calculations or calls you want to do, do it in rust and your frontend can just "invoke" it
sharp geyser
Can you use anything besides js/ts?
sharp geyser
Right
tauri differs
it is arguable that js wont be any slower than rust
but since rust is lower level and has more control over the memory it uses it is arguably better to use than js for the "backend" of a desktop app
that could be making constant expensive function calls
At least in my opinion
pearl trail
but we can't use it directly? idk maybe it can by using the .node or what file is it I forgor
sharp geyser
doesnt electron technically have a c++ backend?
I think so but its not ready to use
as tauri is
quartz kindle
another project i had my eye on was ultralight, but its been very slow development and the main dev is weird
ultralight uses a custom webrenderer with a c++ backend, so it doesnt use any browser/webview
but the dev went ahead and released a pro licence for 3000 usd, half of the code is proprietary, and it still doesnt support most web features like fetch or canvas lol
pearl trail
💀
sharp geyser
but the dev went ahead and released a pro licence for 3000 usd, half of the code...
wtf
Damn my small business that makes 49 million a year
sharp geyser
yup
pearl trail
I see
sharp geyser
but the dev went ahead and released a pro licence for 3000 usd, half of the code...
this looks like shit ngl
Cool in concept
but like anyone offering a pro license for 3k usd
Wouldn't bother using it
Tauri is free no matter what
quartz kindle
yeah, the whole project is going in a weird direction
but it has potential
imagine a desktop app written in html+js+css that only uses 10mb ram
sharp geyser
that'd be virtually impossible to begin with
and even if it was the case
its not worth 3000
radiant kraken
tauri is better
I tried Tauri and i hated it
sharp geyser
why
radiant kraken
tried running the app and it said "error unable to access 127.0.0.1"
sharp geyser
not a tauri issue
radiant kraken
i was like fuck it and rewrote everything in C++ with raw windows API and directx
pearl trail
pro
pearl trail
and now it takes me several days to even get a simple UI to work properly
you don't use html css, do you?
on the app
sharp geyser
radiant kraken
you don't use html css, do you?
no lmfao
i had to write my own multithreaded renderer
pearl trail
ah yeah that's the thing lmao
sharp geyser
Tauri > *
sharp geyser
you only say that because of the amount of time you put into it
radiant kraken
well yea lmfao
sharp geyser
I bet you, if you had to you wouldn't do it over again
radiant kraken
time goes fast when you code in C++
sharp geyser
yea because by the end of it you've suffered so much you dont notice time passing
radiant kraken
😭
sharp geyser
Me: 5am
Me: Holy fuck how is it 12pm already
pearl trail
what encoder you'll use for the screen recorder?
latent yew
hello
radiant kraken
what encoder you'll use for the screen recorder?
encoders builtin to windows
vivid fulcrum
yeah, the whole project is going in a weird direction
the progress is super slow in ultralight, current state is messy. tbf I think it's a solo dev so it makes sense
pearl trail
encoders builtin to windows
hm
sharp geyser
even as a solo dev, expecting 3000 for a thing thats not even well developed
is absurd
pearl trail
does it depend on the "graphics settings"? 
radiant kraken
nope
sharp geyser
to market it off as ready to use for a small business is crazy
radiant kraken
it just requires windows 10 1803 or 19-something or newer
which im sure most people nowadays have
pearl trail
yeah uh I mean
vivid fulcrum
even as a solo dev, expecting 3000 for a thing thats not even well developed
i think it's aimed more at enterprise. i remember taking a glimpse in the UL discord and there being talk about a big game company using ultralight
radiant kraken
ew no
pearl trail
like, software x264, nvenc, or wat
sharp geyser
i think it's aimed more at enterprise. i remember taking a glimpse in the UL dis...
Right, but the thing is, as tim has pointed out it has no basic functionality a desktop app would require
Already releasing a license for it is absurd
pearl trail
well as long as it works then ig... sure
pearl trail
it's actually not only on obs, afaik
sharp geyser
Also, electron imo is still a better option even for entirprises
sharp geyser
while electron bogs down memory, its still better in hingsight due to it being battle tested and having a large community behind it
radiant kraken
nah
pearl trail
while electron bogs down memory, its still better in hingsight due to it being b...
millions (ig) of people use discord with electron, so ig no one cares about memory thingy
radiant kraken
not really
sharp geyser
millions (ig) of people use discord with electron, so ig no one cares about memo...
Not just discord
spotify uses electron
radiant kraken
im copying other people's screen recorder and changing the code a bit lol
im not that smart
sharp geyser
ic
pearl trail
spotify uses electron
ah yeah that app, true
sharp geyser
A lot of apps use electron
it just makes more sense to use electron then making an in house solution
Electron is already well developed and tested
radiant kraken
pro
sharp geyser
dont ask me why I wanted to but now i am
pearl trail
Im making an rcon client
what does it do?
sharp geyser
Rcon stuff
pearl trail
I found rcon in Minecraft server
sharp geyser
Allows you to communicate to a server that supports rcon remotely
pearl trail
ooooo
sharp geyser
Meaning you dont have to physically be in the server
radiant kraken
fancy
sharp geyser
My client only supports rust rn, but I plan on supporting other games eventually
radiant kraken
also @pearl trail why are u still awake smh
go to sleep u have uni tmr
wait not tmr
in a few hours
pearl trail
idk maann I'm too nervous
radiant kraken
samee
sharp geyser
both of you need to sleep wtf
radiant kraken
its only... 2am
pearl trail
also my water gallon made a noise suddenly 💀
sharp geyser
only is crazy
radiant kraken
also my water gallon made a noise suddenly 💀
water gallon jumpscare
pearl trail
yeah I can't sleep now 💀 I need to wake in 4 hours
frosty gale
lets gamble try merging?
eternal osprey
ngl i think i made a hundred contributions purely by adding prepared statements to sql based code bro
a lot of them are opensource operating projects as well
so you can see the whole db structure, so you can easily go to the online app and inject some sql 😭
are ppl retard3d
real rose
are ppl retard3d
wild that this still flagged
eternal osprey
yeah dik why it is falgged tbf it's a normal word
ppl need to grow some fucking backbone
eternal osprey
https://github.com/mcjars/versions-worker/blob/2bc7c0a6aac05ad57440347a1a82559fc...
what the actual fuck
eternal osprey
that ain't it chief 😭
eternal osprey
function execute(query, params = []) {
return new Promise((resolve, reject) => {
db.all(query, params, function (err, rows) {
if (err) {
reject(err);
} else {
resolve(rows);
}
});
});
}```
this is all i do to parameterize my sql lmaofreaky
neon leaf
yes
neon leaf
eternal osprey
neon leaf
neon leaf
WITH spec_build AS (
SELECT builds.*
FROM ${hashType
? sql`buildHashes INNER JOIN builds ON builds.id = buildHashes.build_id WHERE ${sql.identifier(hashType)} = ${req.params.build}`
: sql`builds WHERE id = ${int}`
} LIMIT 1
)
, filtered_builds AS (
SELECT b.*
FROM builds b
INNER JOIN spec_build sb
ON sb.id = b.id
OR (COALESCE(sb.version_id, sb.project_version_id) = COALESCE(b.version_id, b.project_version_id) AND sb.type = b.type)
WHERE b.type != 'ARCLIGHT' OR (
(sb.project_version_id LIKE '%-fabric' AND b.project_version_id LIKE '%-fabric')
OR (sb.project_version_id LIKE '%-forge' AND b.project_version_id LIKE '%-forge')
OR (sb.project_version_id LIKE '%-neoforge' AND b.project_version_id LIKE '%-neoforge')
OR (sb.project_version_id NOT LIKE '%-fabric' AND sb.project_version_id NOT LIKE '%-forge' AND sb.project_version_id NOT LIKE '%-neoforge')
)
)
SELECT *, 0 AS build_count, '' AS _version_id, '' AS version_type, 0 AS version_supported, 0 AS version_java, 0 AS version_created
FROM spec_build
UNION ALL
SELECT x.*, mv.*
FROM (
SELECT *
FROM (
SELECT b.*, count(1) OVER () AS build_count
FROM filtered_builds b
ORDER BY b.id DESC
) LIMIT 1
) x
LEFT JOIN minecraftVersions mv ON mv.id = x.version_id;```this is also pretty cursed but its the more sane version
eternal osprey
what is this for
neon leaf
a minecraft version api
neon leaf
you would if you are getting paid
(I am)
@lyric mountain do you have a way to sponsor you using paypal btw
lyric mountain
wdym?
like, u can receive payments via paypal yeah, but it doesnt have tiers like patreon
neon leaf
I mean do you have a platform like kofi where i can pay on
I got banned off of patreon twice 💀
lyric mountain
only ones I know are kofi and chargebee
lyric mountain
I got banned off of patreon twice 💀
how?
neon leaf
only ones I know are kofi and chargebee
are you on any of those
lyric mountain
oh wait you mean ME literally?
lyric mountain
I dont use any platform atm, trying to find one that accepts both discord and brazillian real
kofi accepts real, but no discord. chargebee has discord but no real
but well, I do have a paypal account, if you're really willing to
lyric mountain
remember to MATERIALIZED VIEW any slow query that's not required to be realtime
lyric mountain
it's a "compiled" query basically
you know what a view is right? basically an alias for a big query
materialized view executes the query and then stores the resultset
any posterior call will retrieve that resultset instead of executing the query again
to refresh the set you run REFRESH MATERIALIZED VIEW name_of_the_view
neon leaf
so its basically a cache?
pearl oriole
Bot sending message does not working?
lyric mountain
kinda, but permanent
I mean, probably permanent I never tried restarting postgres to see if it persists
neon leaf
Whether SQLite supports materialized views is a bit controversial. According to the SQLite official document, SQLite supports 'Materializations Of Views And Subqueries' by storing the subquery results in a temporary table. However, the temporary tables are automatically deleted at the conclusion of the query.26.06.2022
watr
lyric mountain
if you have something that's fine to be refreshed ever so often then mat views can help since the execution time is always O(1)
that's talking abt temp tables
neon leaf
sir, dont forget im using sqlite
lyric mountain
ah, I forgor
neon leaf
.,.
lyric mountain
but well there's this https://sqlite.org/lang_with.html#materialization_hints
tho it only works for current connection apparently
neon leaf
well yeah that wont help on serverless then
still shocked that this is like <100ms on all of these scuffed endpoints https://github.com/mcjars/versions-worker/blob/770434c33c0415ac6a35b062ffc5e10196f87c86/src/api/v2/requests.ts#L164
lyric mountain
what's that for btw? are u making a launcher of some sort?
neon leaf
lyric mountain
ah
eternal osprey
how do i do this
neon leaf
look at your tsconfig
neon leaf
...what
eternal osprey
okay nvm i created one
earlier but i didn't see it
but how do i use it? Is it done automatically?
runic prism
h
quartz kindle
but how do i use it? Is it done automatically?
how does your tsconfig look like?
surreal sage
is there a better way to do configs like this?
currently hardcoded into source
something more open source friendly
neon leaf
you could put them in the db
surreal sage
note: using dockerfile
neon leaf
you could make a roles.json
quartz kindle
if you want to release it for public use, a json config file would be the simplest way
surreal sage
json config in root dir?
quartz kindle
yeah
quartz kindle
if the project is going to be cloned from github, i'd put it in root
if the project is going to be installed as a lib, then i'd make it a config object passed into some function or constructor
surreal sage
glad coolify has this
crystal wigeon
Has anyone used godot here?
past field
my game was stolen 🥲
pearl trail
I feel sorry for your lost
wheat mesa
Has anyone used godot here?
A few times
earnest phoenix
my game was stolen 🥲
how can a game be stolen
crystal wigeon
A few times
For some odd reason I can’t get godot-rust to hotreload
On windows
I downloaded their example and it works
earnest phoenix
I feel sorry for your lost
arent you supposed to be sleeping
wheat mesa
Never used Godot rust before, sorry :c
crystal wigeon
I made a copy of the folder and changed project name and it doesn’t work
earnest phoenix
For some odd reason I can’t get godot-rust to hotreload
why rust on everything
crystal wigeon
fr I’m thinking of just using cpp
sage bobcat
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crystal wigeon
why rust on everything
Cause I’m learning rust and wanted to build something so I thought best to build a game
sage bobcat
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crystal wigeon
Well I wanted to learn game dev too so XD
wheat mesa
Cause I’m learning rust and wanted to build something so I thought best to build...
Use bevy if you want a rust engine
sage bobcat
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crystal wigeon
Use bevy if you want a rust engine
Hmm
earnest phoenix
Cause I’m learning rust and wanted to build something so I thought best to build...
then make a game just by using rust and not a game engine
crystal wigeon
Just use C# or GDScript
For some reason I don’t like c# and gdscript isn’t type safe so I don’t wanna use it
earnest phoenix
its the language designed for godot
its the best language for godot
also so what if its not type safe
wheat mesa
For some reason I don’t like c# and gdscript isn’t type safe so I don’t wanna us...
Rust with Godot will be a struggle. Use bevy if you insist on an engine, or even better you can craft your own engine and just steal bevy’s ECS
crystal wigeon
gotcha,
i'll try cpp with godot, they have better support for cpp
i take that back, i will try c#
i just hate dot net for no reason 
sage bobcat
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sage bobcat
i just hate dot net for no reason <:kekcry:909299794252537877>
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pearl trail
arent you supposed to be sleeping
nah I'm in uni rn
pearl trail
ooooo
sharp geyser
Rust with Godot will be a struggle. Use bevy if you insist on an engine, or even...
Or anything bevy really
frosty gale
@quartz kindle i was constructing some nodejs code and i wondered to myself
say you have 2 streams, stream.pipe lets you pipe the data from one stream directly to another stream
how much faster is it compared to doing something like:
stream1.pipe(stream2);
// vs
stream1.on("data", data => {
stream2.write(data);
});
the thing i have to make i have to capture the data coming from stream1, log it somewhere and write the data to stream2
essentially, proxy the data coming from stream1 into stream2 while capturing the data for another purpose
so i wonder if its faster to use a combo of:
stream1.pipe(stream2);
stream1.on("data", data => {
// do some extra processing with the intercepted data
});
// vs
stream1.on("data", data => {
stream2.write(data);
// do some extra processing with the intercepted data
});
i'd guess the pipe one. wait tim for the real ans
frosty gale
i could do a benchmark but considering this is dealing with async stuff and i havent slept yet i wont be able to come up with a proper benchmark for this rn
but i would assume the pipe one too since the data would be piped natively instead of being done with slow javascript code in between
pearl trail
but i would assume the pipe one too since the data would be piped natively inste...
yeah that's what i think
scenic kelp
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?
it's C++ is it not
factorio has been in development since before rust was stable
oh i did not read far enoug hdown
i rescind my question mark
quartz kindle
how much faster is it compared to doing something like:
```js
stream1.pipe(strea...
i never tested this, but from what i understand, piping will handle backpressure for you, the data event doesnt
for example, using the data event, if the data comes in faster than the writing goes out, the data will start filling up the write buffer
but with piping, if the write buffer fills up too fast, the reader would be throttled accordingly
if you want the best performance, using the readable event is better, it gives you even more manual control
solemn latch
👀 I cleaned up all my node_modules.
Went from 800,000 files to 110,000 files in my dev folder.
Ezpz
surreal sage
What's the 'best' way to handle responses in Discord.js?
I prefer not to use interaction.reply 6 different times where only the content is different each call
I just don't know what approach is best
wheat mesa
Just use a variable called “responseMessage” and set it there, then you only need to do interaction.reply once
sharp geyser
any subsequent ones would be editReply
quartz kindle
👀 I cleaned up all my node_modules.
Went from 800,000 files to 110,000 files in...
still way too much xDD
quartz kindle
mine has 2.9k files and most of that is dev deps like typescript/eslint/etc
sharp geyser
mhm sure
quartz kindle
neon leaf
quartz kindle
ah yes, the schreibgeschutzt files
sharp geyser
💀
quartz kindle
deutsch ist ein kvaliteten sprahe (?)
neon leaf
???????????????
neon leaf
deutsch ist eine qualitative sprache
sage bobcat
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quartz kindle
romaji pls
sage bobcat
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quartz kindle
nanii
neon leaf
im the only one on my family who doesnt speak fluent german
smh
frosty gale
instead you can speak javascriptanese
neon leaf
so i finally figured out why my custom bundle program was bundling files from 3 months ago when the files on disk were clearly different
it checked for the first file ending in .blueprint
and there was a file called .blueprint
nothing else
just .blueprint
so it wasnt shown and was always used
smh
neon leaf
oh I have actually
but for some reason it still didnt show
could be because its on an smb share
lyric mountain
instead you can speak javascriptanese
javasucuripto
quartz kindle
sucuri
wait
would javasucuript be similar to python? (sucuri is basically the same as anaconda, one of many words for big ass snake in portuguese)
:^)
lyric mountain
jararacasucuript then
sharp geyser
Im not crazy
This is INSANELY overpriced right?
Those cpus are SHIT at multithreading performance
any cpu intensive tasks out the door
the ram won't even save it, and thats IF its even fast enough ram
neon leaf
yes its like 2.5x what you usually pay
sharp geyser
Okay, good I just wanted to make sure im not smoking
because a 5600x is fucking garbage for 250$
you could find smth much better for that price
median moss
How can I use @mention as the bot's "prefix"? I've heard that doesn't require privileged message intent (discord.js)
earnest phoenix
not like a vps but an actual computer
sharp geyser
They are dedicated servers
earnest phoenix
bro 💀
mfs using literal computers as servers
and making it way too overpriced
who tf is this
sharp geyser
earnest phoenix
who would even buy there
dont tell me those prices are monthly
you can literally get the same hardware for that price bro 💀
sharp geyser
Apparently a lot of people
this one guy literally on their dick bro
White knighting the fuck outta them
quartz kindle
How can I use @mention as the bot's "prefix"? I've heard that doesn't require pr...
same way as always
if the bot is mentioned, the message will have a .content property
if the bot is not mentioned (and you dont have the intent), then the .content will be empty
compact pier
What is this operator called in javascript?
{
...object
}
I can't find a way to google it
quartz kindle
What is this operator called in javascript?
```js
{
...object
}
```
spread operator
compact pier
Thank you
median moss
if the bot is mentioned, the message will have a `.content` property
So I can basically do message.content.startsWith("<@botid") and it should work?
quartz kindle
So I can basically do `message.content.startsWith("<@botid")` and it should work...
yes
quartz kindle
btw, im not sure if that is still a thing, but discord used to have both <@id and <@!id
no idea if that still exists
median moss
btw, im not sure if that is still a thing, but discord used to have both `<@id` ...
What is the difference?
sharp geyser
one was for roles the other mentions of a user
quartz kindle
i've never seen a concrete explanation, but i think it was related to the mobile app
no, both were for the same user
quartz kindle
ah i remembered, one was for when the user had a nickname set in the server
sharp geyser
Discord has a lot of formatting stuff
median moss
So if I use just <@id> it should work then?
sharp geyser
Should work fine
quartz kindle
it seems the exclamation thing is deprecated, so yeah discord should not be sending that ever again
earnest phoenix
is it monthly
sharp geyser
I know someone thats offering better parts, roughly same amount of ram for cheaper price
sharp geyser
is it monthly
yuh
earnest phoenix
bro
you can literally build the same spec pc
for the same price
like why tf would you even buy a dedi at that point
if its a home pc
anyways
dont you love it when
sharp geyser
Wtf is that
earnest phoenix
vercel analytics
sharp geyser
earnest phoenix
russians invaded my site
quartz kindle
like why tf would you even buy a dedi at that point
you buy those for the network, unless you have 1gbps fiber at home
earnest phoenix
i wanna use an open source alternative to vercel analytics but i need a domain for HTTPS
earnest phoenix
you buy those for the network, unless you have 1gbps fiber at home
well at that point get a VPS
way cheaper & better
quartz kindle
most likely yeah, but for some stuff you might prefer having an entire machine for yourself
earnest phoenix
well not a 3rd gen desktop ryzen cpu
earnest phoenix
russians invaded my site
i mean it literally
seems like yt is now blocked in russia but my project cant really fix that lol
quartz kindle
quartz kindle
Im not crazy
sharp geyser
Yea
Like
a 7401P is better than that shit
I mean if you are running a rust server or any game that requires good single core performance then yes a 5600x is good
earnest phoenix
damn the most bandwith consuming thing on my site is a literal json file that the tv requests for some funny ui thing 💀
sharp geyser
but a rust server quite honestly unless you are managing hundreds of players
you dont need a dedi
a vps is fine
quartz kindle
this hetzner auction thing is pretty cool
you could buy a nice machine for a good price there and make your own vps hosting business
sharp geyser
tbh
if I need an EU server, probably would go through hetzner
sucks that they dont have any good us servers and that i'd have to buy from multiple sources
but 
EU just have better prices for their servers
spark flint
you could buy a nice machine for a good price there and make your own vps hostin...
thats what people do :)
quartz kindle
thats what people do :)
yeah
quartz kindle
all those small hosts and pterodactyl panels and "bot" hosting, they all do that
sharp geyser
yk
As many times as I have setup pterodactyl
I am sure I can do so professionally now
💀
spark flint
its horrible and clunky
sharp geyser
Oh trust me, fucking hate it
quartz kindle
its a very lucrative business, but you need to hold it for a while with your own money until you get enough clients to cover the costs
sharp geyser
pterodactyl is the worst fucking thing to exist
I've had to set it up 2 times and both times were a pain in the ass
Its really not rocket science, anyone can do it. Its just a pain when the person you are setting it up for is as slow as paint drying
neon leaf
pterodactyl is the worst fucking thing to exist
not for me
I am the one who sells addons to summerhosts
sharp geyser
I mean its cool for having an interactive panel between multiple servers
but mfs out here set it up on the server that the node also exists on
No real point anymore
lyric mountain
tools are born innocent, the society corrupts them (by using for a completely unrelated task)
sharp geyser
yea nah
pterodactyl as a product is fine
how people use it is fucking stupid and the worst thing to use
lyric mountain
it's like noodles, they're completely fine
but people use them to fuckin repair walls
carmine chasm
quartz kindle
holy shit dedi prices in brazil are insane
150 usd per month for intel E3 and 32gb ram
rose warren
Hetzner ❤️
sharp geyser
150 usd per month for intel E3 and 32gb ram
Time to make the cheapest host in the US 
sharp geyser
From who
eternal osprey
holy shit dedi prices in brazil are insane
i smell a business opportunity
sharp geyser
Makes sense
quartz kindle
this lookos pretty good for cheap vps
eternal osprey
research and development? ❌
Starting a war with pricing? ✅
rose warren
I also have a free 100GB backup storage bucket in Finland
sharp geyser
this lookos pretty good for cheap vps
Whos this
rose warren
As part of my Hetzner plan
eternal osprey
this lookos pretty good for cheap vps
damn
but is it one of those restricted vps's where you can't even download canvas
quartz kindle
sharp geyser
I want to setup my own video distribution thing, but I cant even tell where to begin
eternal osprey
ughh guhh sparkedhost, heroku
neon leaf
this lookos pretty good for cheap vps
still pretty expensive
especially the 12 months part
quartz kindle
still pretty expensive
i've never seen anyone offer 2 cpu cores for less than 5$
eternal osprey
i pay 8$ a month for 4gb ram, 30gb of disk, 4 cores
quartz kindle
except ARM
neon leaf
rose warren
Check out pulseheberg too Tim
eternal osprey
ddr3 💀
eternal osprey
ig like 2.40?
quartz kindle
2.55
eternal osprey
close
neon leaf
wtf is path.net btw
shitty anti ddos
sharp geyser
I know a lot of servers use it
quartz kindle
its cheaper than galaxygate with double the cores
sharp geyser
https://tempest.net being one of em
quartz kindle
why do i still pay for galaxygate even, gonna cancel that shit
sharp geyser
https://datalix.de makes me want to move to germany
eternal osprey
yeah true, idk i might need to switch away from galaxygate
sharp geyser
no way shits that cheap
eternal osprey
twinningg
neon leaf
german hosting has always been this cheap
eternal osprey
me personanly, i live next to germany so thanks for the links
sharp geyser
german hosting has always been this cheap
yea and im jealous
quartz kindle
Check out pulseheberg too Tim
holy shit they have benchmark scores
sharp geyser
datalix is also insanely good
spark flint
<https://www.eugamehost.com/sales>
they ar egood
eternal osprey
no way
spark flint
can confirm
neon leaf
datalix is also insanely good
I mean thats why 60% of vps resellers in germany/eu resell datalix
eternal osprey
this shit is fucking cheap
rose warren
holy shit they have benchmark scores
They're good. I used them for like 3 years until I outgrew their shared VPS plans and needed a dedi
sharp geyser
tbh, if you have a cdn a eu server means nothing
unless you are hosting smth that cant use a cdn
then it starts to matter
eternal osprey
i just have like 15 processes running on the galaxygate vps you know
rose warren
unless you are hosting smth that cant use a cdn
How to uncompress bottum?
eternal osprey
so i don't want to gothrough the pain of getting all the processes started up again on the other vps
neon leaf
you know the best thing about datalix is you can just dm the owner and get support in like 2min
or do a website ticket and get support in like 5min
well downside being the owner is not very excellent at english
eternal osprey
this is a vps right lol
neon leaf
this is a vps right lol
yes
sharp geyser
@quartz kindle btw no idea where they get those benchmarks for
but they seem inaccurate
eternal osprey
fuck i need to download all the folders and upload it again
sharp geyser
Seems like they get them from Geekbench, but even geekbench reports a different score than what they display
rose warren
https://datalix.de makes me want to move to germany
Hetzner is still cheaper for dedis
quartz kindle
<@180112943612952577> btw no idea where they get those benchmarks for
benchmark scores depend on which benchmarking script you use, you cant compare scores created by two different scripts
neon leaf
Hetzner is still cheaper for dedis
yeah, impossible to beat hetzner in dedis
quartz kindle
this is a vps right lol
buy it and run a benchmark on it yourself
sharp geyser
benchmark scores depend on which benchmarking script you use, you cant compare s...
I mean fair enough, but they should not be that drastic
otherwise you are doing smth wrong
Their site reports 36k, another site reports 17k, and another reports 11k
eternal osprey
i gotta wait till 7 september, then i will transfer my shit and buy a new vps from datalix.
Are you sure that vps allows to open multiple network ports for smtp servers, api's etc
sharp geyser
It also depends on what they were doing to benchmark them
neon leaf
have been for 1.5years
sharp geyser
I mean thats why 60% of vps resellers in germany/eu resell datalix
Yea, and datalix even gives them a reseller ui
neon leaf
and a subreseller ui lol
neon leaf
I mean thats how he can afford to have only one other staff
sharp geyser
If I ever run a german rust server, def using datalix as my provider
neon leaf
just make all the resellers do the work
sharp geyser
ong
At that point, your customers are a mix of people
A. Actually using your servers
B. People actually using them, but offloading the resources to other people
Very neat selling model
either way you make money
On a different note
can someone tell me what the point is of making multiple webviews/windows in a desktop application
I notice electron & tauri have the option to define window & create them at runtime as needed
Whats the practical use
frosty gale
its cheaper than galaxygate with double the cores
you do need to take things holistically into account
first thing i see is datalix has a limit on bandwidth per month
that capacity can be exhausted quickly by accident or through malicious means
galaxygate doesnt as far as i know
neon leaf
that capacity can be exhausted quickly by accident or through malicious means
you can reset bandwidth on attacks
and you can reset it if you do a mistake
frosty gale
but the additional ddos protection they provide does look nice
quartz kindle
first thing i see is datalix has a limit on bandwidth per month
i dont see myself using 10tb in a month
hetzner also isnt unlimited afaik
neon leaf
well its fairuse 50tb afaik
quartz kindle
also, "unlimited" doesnt really exist, everyone has a "fair use" clause in their terms and can terminate you if you exceed some arbitrary volume
frosty gale
im more or less fine with that as long as the fair use policy accepts reasonable use
if you consistently use tbs per month then that might be an issue
i am taking a look at galaxygates tos because im curious though
otherwise they cant really enforce fair use clauses in good faith
would be tricky to prove your use wasnt fair use
only thing i can really see is this catch all clause at the bottom
if you use so much network that it disrupts the infrastructure there could be problems
neon leaf
that cpu thing is horrible tf
quartz kindle
just logged into my galaxygate for the first time in a while
abandoned stuff still running lmao
my galaxygate bandwidth usage lmao
frosty gale
secrets manager is the most important resource on this list
sage bobcat
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real rose
secrets manager
sage bobcat
One message removed from a suspended account.
proven lantern
I could put my secrets in dynamodb
frosty gale
dont come crying back to amazon after your secrets get leaked because of not using secrets manager
proven lantern
i dont think aws has anyone for me to cry to
sharp geyser
Cause the ydont give any fucks
sage bobcat
manages your secrets
One message removed from a suspended account.
green kestrel
Cause the ydont give any fucks
$fucks->setCount(0);
slender wagon
How much did they charge
Or is it static
I had to move to aws secret manager refently
Since github only lets u store 100 secrets
eternal osprey
Uncaught Error Error: getaddrinfo ENOTFOUND discord.com
this just occured
out of nowhere
what the fuck can i do to fix it
slender wagon
what the fuck can i do to fix it
Contact discord
earnest phoenix
dns flush?
eternal osprey
i did
idk i can search discord.com fine
but i can't run my discord bots all of a sudden
Started refreshing 0 application (/) commands.
Error: getaddrinfo ENOTFOUND discord.com
at GetAddrInfoReqWrap.onlookupall [as oncomplete] (node:dns:120:26) {
errno: -3008,
code: 'ENOTFOUND',
syscall: 'getaddrinfo',
hostname: 'discord.com'
}
node:internal/process/promises:391
triggerUncaughtException(err, true /* fromPromise */);
^
Error: getaddrinfo ENOTFOUND discord.com
at GetAddrInfoReqWrap.onlookupall [as oncomplete] (node:dns:120:26) {
errno: -3008,
code: 'ENOTFOUND',
syscall: 'getaddrinfo',
hostname: 'discord.com'
}
Node.js v20.15.0
(base) apple@MacBook-Air newListing kopie % ```it doesn't want to work all of a sudden
pearl trail
based
eternal osprey
i am serious this is a big fucking problem
it's just on vsc
i can do node . on terminal though
pearl trail
it sounds stupid but you sure it's your local terminal?
pearl trail
what is this newListing kopie
eternal osprey
it's a folder
pearl trail
try ping discord.com ?
quartz kindle
How much did they charge
paying 33/year on galaxygate, but im gonna cancel
frosty gale
dns usage skill issue
north turtle
Hello, I am using my personal workstation as a server and the server OS is Ubuntu 22.04 LTS.
But just now, all ports suddenly became unreachable.
The error message was "connection refused".
Since the ssh port (22) and web port (80, 443) are all causing errors, I assume all ports are blocked.
However, the bot works normally. I wonder what is happening to my server. help
(sry for poor eng)
lyric mountain
Hello, I am using my personal workstation as a server and the server OS is Ubunt...
you locked yourself out through ufw
happens if you clear ufw settings and forget to ufw allow ssh
if you're still connected, dont logout
do ufw status
north turtle
but I didn't clear the settings and ufw is inactive
north turtle
yes
lyric mountain
where are you trying to connect from?
north turtle
I'm trying to connect to the server via ssh from a different location.
I can't control anything.. includes mouse and keyboard
north turtle
ah sorry except the mouse
terminal
And of course, i will go and fix the server asap but
I'm worried that my server has been hacked.
lyric mountain
hm, are you trying with your public ip?
north turtle
yes, port forwarding and public ip
lyric mountain
well, there's a log of connections to your pc if you ever need to see if anyone else accessed it, there's not much reason for port 22 not work
only ufw would make sense
north turtle
hmm.. Is it possible that someone has ssh access and has ufw enabled?
lyric mountain
maybe, it all depends on how easy your pc password is
and if u have root access enabled
north turtle
I regret not adding eval or exec to the bot commands for this moments
I only use root account for my server.. I think this was reason.
Anyway.. i will take care of it asap. thanks
lyric mountain
always disable root asap, make an account for you
north turtle
okay
north turtle
always disable root asap, make an account for you
Hi I'm again and it was hacking. I'm going to fix my server tomorrow. tyvm
north turtle
yes i will
lyric mountain
Hi I'm again and it was hacking. I'm going to fix my server tomorrow. tyvm
btw, shut it down until you're ready to work on it
better limit potential damage
north turtle
uhh I want to do so but i can't because
no ssh, no keyboard, no rdp...
lyric mountain
you dont have physical access to it?
north turtle
yes..
lyric mountain
how did u get that ufw image
north turtle
nmap from windows pc
lyric mountain
ah, right
lyric mountain
yes..
"yes I have" or "yes I don't"?
if it's a vps you can use the backdoor to access it
north turtle
I don't have physical thing
lyric mountain
all providers have one for when you lock yourself out
lyric mountain
I don't have physical thing
what provider is it?
north turtle
At my home, self-hosting
north turtle
I have two houses and I forgot to tell that I'm in another house
low orbit
// tailwind.config.ts
keyframes: {
"loading-pin": {
"0%, 40%, 100%": { height: "0.5em", "background-color": "#282336" },
"20%": { height: "1em", "background-color": "white" },
},
swing: {
'0%, 100%': { transform: 'translateY(0)' },
'50%': { transform: 'translateY(-100px)' },
}
},```
Can anyone explain to me as to why 'loading-pin' is being compiled but 'swing' isn't
north turtle
sorry
lyric mountain
ah, nvm then
lyric mountain
```ts
// tailwind.config.ts
keyframes: {
"loading-pin": {
"0%, 40%, 100%":...
remove quotes from transforms
they're not strings, they're operations
also from the %
oh wait that's not css, that's tailwind
nvm then
low orbit
yup
i mean I can put it in my global.css as css but im unsure why it's not working by utilising the extend object of the tailwind config
lyric mountain
if you go to the file where swing is declared it'll tell you the issue
in the browser I mean
timber hatch
i'm making an emoji index site and was wondering what would be the best way of tracking impressions to UGC web pages in a mongo db while tracking time of impression to allow for sorting within a date range.
the use case is wanting to be able to display analytics to emoji publishers within a timeframe.
obviously i could have an impressions array on the document and then push timestamps to that array but was wondering if there's better ways? of even ways of doing it externally using a micro service?
quartz kindle
i'm making an emoji index site and was wondering what would be the best way of t...
that sort of thing is better done with a time-series database
i think mongo itself also has a special time-series collection you can try using
eternal osprey
i have a problem, i continously get the addr not found when running a discord bot, but in terminal i can without any problems.
while i am running vsc, it opens this node exec as well for some reason
might that be the problem?
lyric mountain
what is it running in it?
lyric mountain
maybe, worth a try
make sure to remove everything related to it
cache usually is left behind
eternal osprey
as soon as i run something on vsc it is unable to connect to discord and also has this node exec popping up
it happened when i was running puppeteer and i got a popup asking if google chrome could open something crazy
so i said no
since then i am fucked
sharp geyser
as soon as i run something on vsc it is unable to connect to discord and also ha...
Right, so you are on macos, so you have to remember: Apple = annoying as fuck to do anything related to an external network
You have to approve it doing such actions
Its a "security" concern
eternal osprey
yeah
sharp geyser
Apple will literally block it from doing ANYTHING if its not trusted
sharp geyser
Buy a mac, get mac problems
quartz kindle
:^)
eternal osprey
okay i understand
i might be behind a proxy by accident
as i used puppeteer.authenticate while i was running on my own ip and port..
how the fuck would i disable that then>
it was a mac security notification
anyone that knows how to fix that lol
sharp geyser
you cant
Its built into mac
They quite literally wont let you disable any security features like that afaik
If you wanted something insecure you should of gone windows
lyric mountain
honestly most things are equally stupid to disable on windows as win update will revert them everytime
just go straight to linux 
sharp geyser
pretty much
eternal osprey
it's only secpific for vsc
i can run the discord bot in my terminal using node .
just vsc has no internet connection
lyric mountain
install a linux vm and code from there
sharp geyser
running it in the terminal, apple expects you to know what you are doing
Its more lax
running stuff inside an application on the other hand is not so lax
Applications can be ran on launch
eternal osprey
that's so strange
it was working so well until i clicked fucking no
strange thing is, i used: tccutil reset All com.microsoft.VSCode
this should reset all the permission settings for VSCode and it still doesn't work
digital swan
if you didnt give it permission on a popup thing im sure therell be a setting somewhere to allow it
maybe try going settings -> network and temporarily disabling firewall and see if it works
frosty gale
you locked yourself out through ufw
somehow i gave great effort not to lock myself out of SSH through UFW and explicitly whitelisted the SSH port but I STILL got locked out 🤦♂️
sharp geyser
I can check again
eternal osprey
yes please
i instead just allowed vsc
and it worked
i directly deleted google chrome as well lmao
oh my days
it works
sharp geyser
It seems to be part of google chrome's testing suite
eternal osprey
listen max let me kiss you bro @digital swan
sharp geyser
Remember: Mac = wont let you do shit unless you let me
It wont even allow you to run some apps you download because it will think its malware
you will have to go to the "Security" tab in the system preferences to allow it and let it bypass the filter
digital swan
i think i actually preferred system preferences to the new iphone like settings app
it seemed to work better
sharp geyser
I think mac as it is, generally is fine
but there are some questionable choices imo
Developing anything dealing with networks on mac is painful
You have to use self signed certs for literally everything
eternal osprey
you will have to go to the "Security" tab in the system preferences to allow it ...
yeah i know that thingy though
annoying as hell but better safe than sorry
sharp geyser
Want to send an email using your own mail server? Need a cert for that
Want to connect to any external api ? Cert
eternal osprey
Developing anything dealing with networks on mac is painful
yeah i had to build a network of 2 switches and 8 devices for my end project
i couldn't run it at all as my switch for some reason didn't get on the net of my pc
sharp geyser
Anything that deals with an end-to-end connection apple wants you to have a cert for it, which is understandable
but im developing stuff locally buddy please stop
eternal osprey
apple goated for that though
i used to have 9 million bazillion viruses on windows ngl
sharp geyser
I would assume if im developing something I am smart enough not to do it wrong and connect to the wrong server
eternal osprey
how do i scan my mac for viruses?
digital swan
i think malwarebytes has one
vivid fulcrum
Developing anything dealing with networks on mac is painful
building and publishing apps for mac is such a pain in the ass, I completely dropped macOS support for all of my projects lol
sharp geyser
I mean
I have a mac
might as well build for it
It wont be signed because im not paying 100$ a year
but still I at least have support
limber ravine
Protection bots
sharp geyser
Fuck u
earnest phoenix
no thank you
sharp geyser
in fact he impedes help
earnest phoenix
youre currently yapping
sharp geyser
thats mean
deft wolf
Least toxic conversation on #development 
frosty gale
just use websockets? if your desktop server is going to be js then might as well (assuming)
for your use case it doesnt make much sense to use anything else
sharp geyser
I figured
but Im not exactly sure how I can have control over the server itself
like not the server as in the vps / dedi
but the game server
Especially if its locked behind a pterodactyl panel aka dockerized
earnest phoenix
thats mean
man
sage bobcat
Least toxic conversation on <#272764566411149314> <:notlikenoot:5858843880013168...
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rare merlin
what the best way to track impressions / clicks on a fairly popular website?
i have a serverless nextjs app which currently makes api requests to my bot running an express server whenever it needs data from the db or discord.
making potentially more than 1 request every second to my api seems highly unefficient and im wondering if theres a better solution. (im trying to gather analytics for communities so they can see their forum page analytics )
past field
is there a way to set up a button on an embed to allow people to upload attachments from their photo galleries in their phone?
quartz kindle
what the best way to track impressions / clicks on a fairly popular website?
i h...
cant you use dedicated analytcs tools like cloudflare analytics or google analytics thing?
rare merlin
cant you use dedicated analytcs tools like cloudflare analytics or google analyt...
i haven't look into them but i presume they'd have strict limitations and definitely paywalls behind them
i was just wondering if would be better for me to handle impressions myself, if so, should I use my discord bot api or should i setup an entirely separate api to handle impressions or if resulting to a dedicated analytics tool would be my best shot? i ideally don't want an analytics tool which requires cookie consent and i want to be able to retrieve analytics for forum owners, i suppose like top.gg's way of handling impressions for auctions
neon leaf
you could selfhost plausible
quartz kindle
is there a way to set up a button on an embed to allow people to upload attachme...
not sure you can do it with a button, but you can with a slash command
rare merlin
you could selfhost plausible
i was looking at plausible and saw it had a 600 req per hour limitation which drove me away from them, but i didn't know it was open source ?
rare merlin
ill definitely look into this, do you think it would be resource intensive?
quartz kindle
assuming they are backed by a time-series database/storage plus eventual consistency
should be very effeicient
past field
not sure you can do it with a button, but you can with a slash command
ok i thought so
i’m working on a “smash or pass” game lol
oh by the way tim you’ll be proud of me!
rare merlin
https://github.com/plausible/analytics
is there an easy way to restrict this to only me being able to access / create an account on the selfhosted version or is this something i would have to implement myself?
rare merlin
oh cool, thanks a lot!
quartz kindle
congrats
earnest phoenix
https://github.com/plausible/analytics
its pretty good btw, installed for my site yesterday and i like it lol
frosty gale
the rabbit hole only gets deeper from here
deft wolf
I didn't know that they still send these messages about the bot being on 75 servers after these changes with verification
earnest phoenix
prob to notify
bitter granite
I didn't know that they still send these messages about the bot being on 75 serv...
Prob they just kept the code for that
And never delated/remove it
surreal sage
pearl trail
yes
surreal sage
it doesnt want to exist 💔
neon leaf
y
radiant kraken
its pretty good btw, installed for my site yesterday and i like it lol
nerd
pearl trail
nerd
earnest phoenix
analytics is a nerd thing
no
pearl trail
even yt agrees
lyric mountain
powershell and its dumb policies