development

[solemn latch]

Thats the permission discord says to give

[wary totem]

i have it

i'm really embarrassed

[solemn latch]

I'll goof around with it for a bit, I've not played around with discord bots in awhile so I cant remember exactly what permission it is

[wary totem]

good luck...

[wary totem]

ping me when you find something !

[lyric mountain]

just as a tip, u can set the perm on discord for the bot role and use "view server as role" to see what the bot'll be able to do

flip switches till you can manage channel permissions through it

[wary totem]

😮

[lyric mountain]

this way u dont need to reinvite the bot everytime to test what perm u need

[wary totem]

okkkkk, my bot can manage role in the server, but can't manage permissions in the channels

[lyric mountain]

yes, view server as role and flip the perms till you can

the last perm u flip will be the one you need

[solemn latch]

It shouldnt be admin, admin essentially means 'all other perms'

[lyric mountain]

all other perms + ignore overrides

[wary totem]

i think it's admin...

[solemn latch]

I've been a mod here for 3 and a half years and have never seen a bot need admin

[wary totem]

cause with all perms my bot hasn't this perm

[solemn latch]

Which role does your bot have? 👀

[wary totem]

"werewolf"

his own role

the managed

[solemn latch]

and test is the one its modifying?

[wary totem]

no

it's me

[solemn latch]

are you the owner of the server?

[wary totem]

yes

the video

where i test

you see, the bot needs admin

[solemn latch]

So you want to set other users to edit permissions of the channel via the bot?

In your code you're not setting that option at all

[wary totem]

no, the bot should simply ban the channel to everyone and create exemptions for players with the specific role in the channel

[real rose]

"will have every permission" - All Admin does is enable all the discord permissions

So you just need a combination of the permissions

you need to find the right combo

[wary totem]

it doesn't work when my bot has all permissions except admin

please

[solemn latch]

It looks like you can edit those permissions at 33 seconds right, the one you hover over is just to allow other users to change permissions of the channel.

[wary totem]

i can't create a channel if i set permissions in my create method from djs, so it won't change anything

[solemn latch]

Figured one way to do it.
When you create the channel you can edit all these permissions freely

  const channel = await guild.channels.create({
    name: "test",
    permissionOverwrites: [
      {
        id: User Or Role ID,
        allow: [
          PermissionsBitField.Flags.ViewChannel,
          PermissionsBitField.Flags.SendMessages,
         PermissionsBitField.Flags.ReadMessageHistory,
        ],
      },
      {
        id: User Or Role ID,
        deny: [
          PermissionsBitField.Flags.ViewChannel,
          PermissionsBitField.Flags.SendMessages,
          PermissionsBitField.Flags.ReadMessageHistory,
        ],
      },
    ],
  });

[wary totem]

no, i have a missing permissions error

[solemn latch]

intresting, my bot only has manage channels and it works fine.

[wary totem]

do you want a video ?

[solemn latch]

Did you try setting the permissions when you create the channel?

[wary totem]

yeah

in the CreateOptions

[solemn latch]

And you're setting the roles permissions, not the users permission?

[wary totem]

both

[solemn latch]

both?

[wary totem]

i tried the both

[solemn latch]

I'm not sure how to help then.

This code worked, with just these permissions

I didnt try it without manage roles, but it does work.

Sadly I'm out of time today to help 😦

[wary totem]

the bot can't create permissions !

[pine willow]

Whats the code?

[solemn latch]

This

[urban delta]

okay so, i got an idea for what i do with implementing languages in my macros language, and i'm planning to have a init folder to get the package

get the package in a function

and have a file with their names in, so i can get the transformer and the neutral class

https://mystb.in/6948b2d32de6d0ac80

have no idea how to load the modules

but i need to load them twice

like the non transformer version

and the transformer version

altogether

[lyric mountain]

you have a channel override blocking the manage roles perm

the ONLY explanation for admin working and all perms not, is that you have an override

as that's the only thing admin has over all perms

[urban delta]

what did i didn't imported from Macro class?

[lyric mountain]

pass self to it

self=whatever

no idea what it's supposed to be tho

[wheat mesa]

I think your issue is that a static function shouldn’t need a self parameter, that’s the point

Either that or you’re trying to use a member function in a static context, which is also wrong

[lyric mountain]

can a static function even have a "self"?

like, there's no instance to be called a self

ah nvm, misread ur comments

[frosty gale]

it can technically but it wouldnt make sense

since the whole point of static is to not have a class instance associated with it anyways

the equivalent of lying to the compiler lol

[eternal osprey]

PM2            | App [OfferteApi:22] exited with code [1] via signal [SIGINT]
PM2            | App [OfferteApi:22] starting in -fork mode-
PM2            | App [OfferteApi:22] online
22|OfferteApi  | Error: listen EADDRINUSE: address already in use :::8443
22|OfferteApi  |     at Server.setupListenHandle [as _listen2] (node:net:1751:16)
22|OfferteApi  |     at listenInCluster (node:net:1799:12)
22|OfferteApi  |     at Server.listen (node:net:1887:7)
22|OfferteApi  |     at Object.<anonymous> (/root/site/offerte.js:286:13)
22|OfferteApi  |     at Module._compile (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1256:14)
22|OfferteApi  |     at Module._extensions..js (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1310:10)
22|OfferteApi  |     at Module.load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1119:32)
22|OfferteApi  |     at Module._load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:960:12)
22|OfferteApi  |     at Object.<anonymous> (/usr/lib/node_modules/pm2/lib/ProcessContainerFork.js:33:23)
22|OfferteApi  |     at Module._compile (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1256:14) {
22|OfferteApi  |   code: 'EADDRINUSE',
22|OfferteApi  |   errno: -98,
22|OfferteApi  |   syscall: 'listen',
22|OfferteApi  |   address: '::',
22|OfferteApi  |   port: 8443```

hey guys how the fuck do i fix this

[frosty gale]

an older instance of your app is probably still running or keeping the port reserved

try kill the app running on that port and try again

[eternal osprey]

yah i know, i killed it like a minute ago

but it still returns the same error

[lyric mountain]

always attach to ports with REUSEADDR flag

[eternal osprey]

I see

But ehh how can I fix it now

[lyric mountain]

else there are some cases when a process dies but still somehow hold the port's lock

[lyric mountain]

kill by port

kill -9 $(lsof -t -i:port)

[eternal osprey]

i did

but i am still waiting with the same error

eventhough it's 100% dead

[urban delta]

it's because i forgot the () in the class parsing

okay so, i need to know how to access the classes

have no idea how to do it

[lyric mountain]

well, restart the server

and use reuseaddr from now on

[frosty gale]

usually happens because the kernel keeps the port reserved because it still thinks it's in use because you haven't gracefully released that port or stopped that program

it shouldn't happen but it does

kernel should figure out after a bit of time the port is free though

but no one has time for that

there's usually a lot of complex dependencies and reliances in place so kernel can't just go "if program exited, free port"

[earnest phoenix]

i am senior full stack & blockchain & AI developer.
I have enough experience of developing website, dApps and AI project.
Is there anyone looking for a dev?

[eternal osprey]

a senior full stack dev wouldn't try to find jobs through dc

apply for a fucking job bro what you doing

[spark flint]

It’s web3

No web3 jobs is going to use a real job site

because most are scams and rugpulls

[pearl trail]

blockchain?

[eternal osprey]

they scared of working for a honeypot company

[wary totem]

fixed !

[spark flint]

does anyone know any good js sandboxes

i'm trying to make a feature that lets people code their own plugins, but i only want them to be able to access the context given to them

[sharp geyser]

I know null made a sandbox package

not sure if it will work for you

[spark flint]

i was trying to find it

i forgo

[sharp geyser]

https://www.npmjs.com/package/tio.js

[spark flint]

either that or i use dockeer

ah nice

or cloudflare workers as a service

[sharp geyser]

whatever works best for ya

[spark flint]

tbh not sure

the code will run remotely on a vps that has no access to any other data at all

just to be safe

[sharp geyser]

use docker then

docker can be made to be completely isolated from the system iirc

[spark flint]

yes

[sharp geyser]

you could even use kubernetes and spawn small servers /joke

[spark flint]

hm i'll have a play around

lol

it can access filesystem apparently

[sharp geyser]

run that in docker

😏

Also wait

@radiant kraken its a sandbox

why can it access the filesystem

[spark flint]

can't get users anyways

[sharp geyser]

kinda strange it can access teh fs tho

its supposed to be sandboxed

Oh

[sharp geyser]

I guess tio allows you to access the fs its running on

[spark flint]

would make sense

[spark flint]

welp got a working example

you define the post handler and do whatever you want

and you can get the full post object with .toJSON()

not working with Tio tho

hm doesn't support ?.

removed and it worked

[sharp geyser]

can I see the full source code if you dont mind

cause I want to try it myself

that ?. should work

[spark flint]

import tio from 'tio.js'

const evalCode = async () => {
    const response = await tio(`
class Post {
    constructor(obj) {
        this.postObj = {
            id: obj.id || '',
            title: obj.title || '',
            content: obj.content || '',
            tags: obj.tags || [],
            files: obj.files || [],
            user: obj.user || {},
            createdAt: obj.createdAt || '',
            updatedAt: obj.updatedAt || '',
            commentCount: obj.commentCount || 0,
            upvotes: obj.upvotes || 0,
            comments: obj.comments || []
        }
    }

    getId() {
        return this.postObj.id;
    }

    getTitle() {
        return this.postObj.title;
    }

    getContent() {
        return this.postObj.content;
    }

    getTags() {
        return this.postObj.tags;
    }

    getFiles() {
        return this.postObj.files;
    }

    getUser() {
        return this.postObj.user;
    }
    
    getCreationDate() {
        return this.postObj.createdAt;
    }

    getUpvotes() {
        return this.postObj.upvotes;
    }

    getComments() {
        return this.postObj.comments;
    }

    toJSON() {
        return this.postObj;
    }
}

const post = new Post({
    "id": "67b8cc16-4525-4278-a93b-f2d1ee0e6008",
    "title": "testtest",
    "content": "est",
    "tags": [],
    "files": [
        {
        "name": "Background (9).png",
        "hash": "7391c6c4239fbf5c947e0611b4bf46b859282100c0f19cc51020c109c68083be",
        "cdnPath": "posts/67b8cc16-4525-4278-a93b-f2d1ee0e6008/7391c6c4239fbf5c947e0611b4bf46b859282100c0f19cc51020c109c68083be.png",
        "mimetype": "image/png"
        }
    ],
    "user": {
        "id": "5f97a041-0daf-4042-871b-dc6bac3e9892",
        "username": "big.bun",
        "avatar": "https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/471409054594498561/a_58afbdbbc758eedfcf5ce227fdc0349c.png"
    },
    "createdAt": "2024-05-22T10:56:50.177Z",
    "updatedAt": "2024-05-22T10:56:50.177Z",
    "commentCount": 1,
    "upvotes": 0,
    "comments": [
        {
        "id": "9d25d749-dbde-4157-bd2a-ebd3e3703dce",
        "content": "test",
        "user": {
            "id": "5f97a041-0daf-4042-871b-dc6bac3e9892",
            "username": "big.bun",
            "avatar": "https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/471409054594498561/a_58afbdbbc758eedfcf5ce227fdc0349c.png"
        },
        "createdAt": "2024-05-22T12:15:44.690Z",
        "updatedAt": null
        }
    ]
})

async function postHandler(ctx) {
    console.log(\`Post ID: \${ctx.getId()}\`);
    console.log(\`Post Title: \${ctx.getTitle()}\`);
    console.log(\`Post Content: \${ctx.getContent()}\`);
}

const handlePost = async () => {
    await postHandler(post)
}

handlePost()
    `);

    console.log(response?.output || "No output?!?!")
}

evalCode()```

[sharp geyser]

works for me

[spark flint]

that doesn't have ?. tho

import tio from 'tio.js'

const evalCode = async () => {
    const response = await tio(`
class Post {
    constructor(obj) {
        this.postObj = {
            id: obj?.id || '',
            title: obj?.title || '',
            content: obj?.content || '',
            tags: obj?.tags || [],
            files: obj?.files || [],
            user: obj?.user || {},
            createdAt: obj?.createdAt || '',
            updatedAt: obj?.updatedAt || '',
            commentCount: obj?.commentCount || 0,
            upvotes: obj?.upvotes || 0,
            comments: obj?.comments || []
        }
    }

    getId() {
        return this.postObj.id;
    }

    getTitle() {
        return this.postObj.title;
    }

    getContent() {
        return this.postObj.content;
    }

    getTags() {
        return this.postObj.tags;
    }

    getFiles() {
        return this.postObj.files;
    }

    getUser() {
        return this.postObj.user;
    }
    
    getCreationDate() {
        return this.postObj.createdAt;
    }

    getUpvotes() {
        return this.postObj.upvotes;
    }

    getComments() {
        return this.postObj.comments;
    }

    toJSON() {
        return this.postObj;
    }
}

const post = new Post({
    "id": "67b8cc16-4525-4278-a93b-f2d1ee0e6008",
    "title": "testtest",
    "content": "est",
    "tags": [],
    "files": [
        {
        "name": "Background (9).png",
        "hash": "7391c6c4239fbf5c947e0611b4bf46b859282100c0f19cc51020c109c68083be",
        "cdnPath": "posts/67b8cc16-4525-4278-a93b-f2d1ee0e6008/7391c6c4239fbf5c947e0611b4bf46b859282100c0f19cc51020c109c68083be.png",
        "mimetype": "image/png"
        }
    ],
    "user": {
        "id": "5f97a041-0daf-4042-871b-dc6bac3e9892",
        "username": "big.bun",
        "avatar": "https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/471409054594498561/a_58afbdbbc758eedfcf5ce227fdc0349c.png"
    },
    "createdAt": "2024-05-22T10:56:50.177Z",
    "updatedAt": "2024-05-22T10:56:50.177Z",
    "commentCount": 1,
    "upvotes": 0,
    "comments": [
        {
        "id": "9d25d749-dbde-4157-bd2a-ebd3e3703dce",
        "content": "test",
        "user": {
            "id": "5f97a041-0daf-4042-871b-dc6bac3e9892",
            "username": "big.bun",
            "avatar": "https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/471409054594498561/a_58afbdbbc758eedfcf5ce227fdc0349c.png"
        },
        "createdAt": "2024-05-22T12:15:44.690Z",
        "updatedAt": null
        }
    ]
})

async function postHandler(ctx) {
    console.log(\`Post ID: \${ctx.getId()}\`);
    console.log(\`Post Title: \${ctx.getTitle()}\`);
    console.log(\`Post Content: \${ctx.getContent()}\`);
}

const handlePost = async () => {
    await postHandler(post)
}

handlePost()
    `);

    console.log(response?.output || "No output?!?!")
}

evalCode()```

thats with ?.

[sharp geyser]

yea

same exact code

oh wait

one sec

weird

[sharp geyser]

It is using the wrong langauge setting

[spark flint]

i set it to javascript-node

[sharp geyser]

yea

huh

Oh

I see why

💀

[sharp geyser]

tio uses v11 nodejs

?. was not added until v14

[spark flint]

ah…

[sharp geyser]

no idea why its so outdated tbh

[frosty gale]

I would not trust these sandbox code running modules

the amount of vulnerabilities they tend to be riddled with

[spark flint]

might just use workers as a service then

[frosty gale]

which sometimes don't even get fixed bc the author abandoned the package

[spark flint]

runs in the cloud, easy to setup, etc

[sharp geyser]

just make your own sandbox

bro sharky get out of development

you dont belong here

[frosty gale]

I mean if you're not relying on any user input its probably fine but at that point I'd just use eval

or run the code directly like a normal person

but that library does run in some sandbox anyways so its fine

I thought it was just another one of those libraries that runs js code in some local sandbox

[radiant kraken]

it runs in the tio servers, it's basically an API wrapper lmao

every eval is an HTTP request

[radiant kraken]

heyyy i made it smh smh

[urban delta]

okay so... i feel like i'm gonna repeat this

like, for when i cross things like

message -> { bi message }

how do i use json to gather pattern again?

so i don't need to create a spagetti code

more than what i'm doing

since my lack of knowledge forces me making a spagetti code

[quartz kindle]

cenverting

[urban delta]

my plan is to be able to stack up to biuls

like

||Hello world||

[lyric mountain]

é só vc usar regex rapaz

quer dizer, mais regex

junta td em um negocio só

[urban delta]

entendi

só tacar regex no phoda-se

[lyric mountain]

mas enfim, n sei oq re.sub faz, mas vc tbm pode usar um mapa e iterar ele pra comparar os patterns

melhor doq repetir a msm coisa 5 vezes

[urban delta]

re.sub é pra substituir coisas

com base no regex

[lyric mountain]

alias italico é tanto _assim_ qnt *assim*

[urban delta]

teste

não sabia

[urban delta]

o problema é seu saber como usar mapa

para iterar

tem como me ensinar a usar mapa

pois nunca usei ele

[lyric mountain]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3294889/iterating-over-dictionaries-using-for-loops

mapa, dictionary, json, td a msm coisa praticamente

[surreal sage]

https://bitwarden.com/products/secrets-manager

[lyric mountain]

uhhh...ok?

[wise sand]

mods are asleep, signal as spam

[harsh nova]

If you spam links in all channels again I'll ban you to have it removed the messages for me

[frosty gale]

https://tenor.com/view/shake-it-shake-kundalini-crazy-lady-energetic-gif-17007506

[deft wolf]

[surreal sage]

https://bitwarden.com/help/manage-your-secrets-org/#self-hosting

idk

[frosty gale]

https://github.com/bitwarden/

[pine willow]

https://files.sky.h4ck.me/files/YxwsgU.png

Holy shit so well coded

[surreal sage]

thats a lotta ram

[pine willow]

ikr

somehow cpu isnt showing...

https://files.sky.h4ck.me/files/W2gpv8.png

WTF

i have to recode that lmfao

[frosty gale]

i beg you to use less points in the graphs and use graph smoothening functions

[pine willow]

sure

[sharp geyser]

no

[pine willow]

huh?

https://files.sky.h4ck.me/files/Ykk4cw.png

WHY IS CPU EMPTY

my servers dont have a cpu

[eternal osprey]

how do i get such format

such that i can actually copy etc

[marsh lark]

they're just codeblocks
```abc```
gets turned into
abc

[eternal osprey]

oowh bruh

arigato sensei

[frosty gale]

blocked

[eternal osprey]

💀

i got too late into my anime era

usually it hits you at like 16-17

mine hit at 21

[proven lantern]

is there anyway to log certain commands to discord's audit log?

[eternal osprey]

Hey guys, how can a universal turing machine be used for the halting problem, with other words: How can a universal machine simulate another machine that may or may not halt given an input string.
Like, i asked chatgpt and searched the internet but unfortunately nothing. They had proofs, like the blank tape proof and halting proof, but i am more focused on a practical framework.

what's fucking my mind is, that if a normal turing machine won't halt, then the universal won't either? Even if we added a timeout or loop iteration, we can never be sure it definitely hit an infitine loop. It could be its normal behavior

[wheat mesa]

The halting problem isn’t saying that Turing machines don’t halt, it’s saying that it’s not possible to make a general proof to tell if a machine will halt or not

Oh I think I see what you’re saying now

Nvm then what I said doesn’t answer your question

[eternal osprey]

i appreciate the effort tho!

[past field]

how can i get my bot to create a separate channel in a game? i’m using djsv13 and im having trouble finding the documentation

[sharp geyser]

in a game?

[pine willow]

Game?

Wdym

[pine willow]

Almost done

[sharp geyser]

<GuildChannelManager>.create

The only way to my knowledge is to access the channel manager on a guild

[stark abyss]

I hate the entire field of cs

As a matter of fact I hate the entire “being valuable part of society” part

[sharp geyser]

then dont do it

[pine willow]

[sharp geyser]

with that mindset this is impossible

Never going to be a multi millionare if you have a mindset like that

unless you want to be a miserable one

💀

[pearl trail]

💀

[pine willow]

Chill maybe he is elon Musk

[quartz kindle]

does his family own a diamond mine in south africa?

[stark abyss]

I m gOnNa cOmMit FrAUd

[sharp geyser]

Not yet

but I soon will

[mighty scroll]

Maybe i do something wrong, but what can i do to prevent this error?
I increased the timeout from 3 second to 15 second/20/30 and even 1 min with retry but still it happend

    at RedirectableRequest.handleRequestTimeout (/root/DiscordMusicGiveawayBotNew/node_modules/axios/dist/node/axios.cjs:3124:16)
    at RedirectableRequest.emit (node:events:514:28)
    at Timeout.<anonymous> (/root/DiscordMusicGiveawayBotNew/node_modules/follow-redirects/index.js:210:12)
    at listOnTimeout (node:internal/timers:573:17)
    at process.processTimers (node:internal/timers:514:7)
    at Axios.request (/root/DiscordMusicGiveawayBotNew/node_modules/axios/dist/node/axios.cjs:3877:41)
    at runNextTicks (node:internal/process/task_queues:60:5)
    at listOnTimeout (node:internal/timers:540:9)
    at process.processTimers (node:internal/timers:514:7)
    at async leaderboardJob (/root/DiscordMusicGiveawayBotNew/SiennaNation.js:238:7) {
  code: 'ECONNABORTED',

The servers are up 24/7 with 100% uptime, but i don't understand why axios is not able to keep the connection or crash the connection

[pearl trail]

have you tried using other than axios?

[mighty scroll]

Hmm, not actually. Is there something much more popular then axios?

I just saw now a lot of people call axios dead 😂😂

[quartz kindle]

i mean

node has fetch built in since v18

[pearl trail]

or probably undici

[sharp geyser]

node's fetch is undici

iirc they incorporated undici natively

[past field]

and is it really possible to have a channel that doesn’t show the “ <member> is typing….” status at the bottom?

[sharp geyser]

You can't stop that

you can only stop your bot from showing it

[civic scroll]

it is
program your own chat server, that way you can control everything

[lament rock]

someone I work with made a revamp of the matrix bridge and no typing indicator

switch to element (formerly matrix) and bridge to discord with bot backed webhooks

[frosty gale]

undici doesnt support http 2 which sucks

it achieves better throughput than http 1

binary frames and everything instead of decoding utf8 and finding boundaries like losers

[tired prawn]

Hy, node js bot. Bot not edit own message and Delete:/ permission set: manage message :/ My Own Discord Server succes edit another not. Missing permission?

Error log:

DiscordAPIError: Unknown Message
at RequestHandler.execute (/home/sajat/bot-disc/uj/node/node_modules/discord.js/sr$
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[sharp geyser]

you are editing a message that no longer exists

[neon leaf]

Is it possible, using pure client side js to get an md5, sha1, sha224, sha256, sha384 or sha512 hash of a file input

[quartz kindle]

should be possible yes

[neon leaf]

How sir

[frosty gale]

the crypto api is stupidly limited

first you need to be using a secure connection (https) to access it

and i dont think it supports many hashing algorithms

youd have to use a library for it

[neon leaf]

I mean I just need one of those

[sharp geyser]

make your own

:)

[frosty gale]

yeah looks like it supports it now finally https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/SubtleCrypto/digest

[sharp geyser]

SHA-1?

[tired prawn]

Yes, I understand this part :/ but it exists. That's why the error is strange to me.

[sharp geyser]

Obviously not

Either that or its ephemeral

ephemeral messages cannot be edited afaik

[tired prawn]

??

[sharp geyser]

?

[frosty gale]

confusion ception

[neon leaf]

@sharp geyser my name is Mike Ross will U hire me

[sharp geyser]

No

you smoke too much pot

[pine willow]

i know that error because people are deleting the gameboard message from my bot 💀

[civic scroll]

[eternal osprey]

hey guys i am lost about networking

i jsut have a rough time understanding the difference between network and transport layers

suppose we have host a that needs to go through host b, c, d to reach host e.
then the transport layer would only come into play at the begin of host a (where it assigned port number to the process using the internet and doing a certain action) and host e right (to deliver the packet to the right process).
Because in between, we just have a host-host communication and network layer provides the play there so no ports are needed, or is this wrong?

i might just be right. Or i am paranoid. Or i am stupid but right. Or i could not be right but partially right. Or i could be totally wrong.

[sharp geyser]

Option D you’re neither right nor wrong

Hope that helps kthxbai

[eternal osprey]

😭 whts the right and whats the wrong part

don't leave me in shambles here

[sharp geyser]

Oh I have no idea

[eternal osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cry-cat-kitty-tears-gif-24106422

[sharp geyser]

thats for someone smarter than me to figure out

[lyric mountain]

you see now what I mean

[sharp geyser]

oh look

someone smarter than me has arrived

[lyric mountain]

double and pass to next

[sharp geyser]

haku

you know about networking right

[eternal osprey]

Kuu gotta help me out here

[lyric mountain]

^

no idea about that lmao

[sharp geyser]

[eternal osprey]

[sharp geyser]

well

time to summon tim

if he doesnt know it

no one does

[eternal osprey]

it's over

[sharp geyser]

oh tim is offline

I wont ping him

[sharp geyser]

hey haku

what are triggers

[lyric mountain]

they're stuff that happen when stuff happen

cause and effect basically

[sharp geyser]

😭

that doesnt help me much

[lyric mountain]

you insert a row -> AFTER INSERT trigger happens

[sharp geyser]

I dont get how the work

yea but people can make their own triggers right?

[lyric mountain]

on a database?

[sharp geyser]

yea

[lyric mountain]

only those who can create tables can create triggers

[eternal osprey]

only ppl with perms can iirc

[sharp geyser]

well yea

I know that

[lyric mountain]

imagine you have a ball

[sharp geyser]

I mean

you can make your own triggers

[lyric mountain]

yes

lets use the ball example

[sharp geyser]

How do you call these triggers

ok

[eternal osprey]

ball triggers

[lyric mountain]

you prepare to throw the ball, this is when BEFORE THROW (imagine throw is an operation)

whatever u declare on that trigger will happen now

the ball gets thrown (operation is done)

then the AFTER THROW trigger happens

imagine gravity is declared here

so inside this trigger, ball.fall()

[sharp geyser]

now we getting into physics

[lyric mountain]

it's literally this, you add actions to happen before, during and after operations

[sharp geyser]

ic

[lyric mountain]

during would be the query itself

[sharp geyser]

So I can make a trigger that happens before a select?

[lyric mountain]

no, only for write operations

[sharp geyser]

Then why were people earlier talking about triggers making checks redundant in code

[lyric mountain]

triggers can be used to validate input

[eternal osprey]

chatgpt clutched up yall

[pine willow]

https://files.sky.h4ck.me/files/ZeVZub.png

Bruh i'm installing a ptero panel+wings in a ptero instance

[lyric mountain]

or manipulate data in a way

imagine you have a child table, and you want to insert a row in parent table if it doesn't exist (to prevent contraint error)

you'd do in a trigger

CREATE TRIGGER make_parent
    BEFORE INSERT -- Should run before inserting child
    ON child_table -- Where to listen for actions
    FOR EACH ROW -- Execute for individual rows, not whole operation
BEGIN -- Just an example, actual trigger DDL is different

    -- Check if a parent with parent_id exists
    IF (NOT exists(SELECT 1 FROM parent_table pt WHERE pt.id = NEW.parent_id)) THEN

      -- If not, insert a parent
      INSERT INTO parent_table (id, smth) VALUES (NEW.parent_id, 'mogus');

    END IF;

END;
``` basically

[sharp geyser]

huh

what is that black magic

Also what is the point of that

a child should always have a parent

[lyric mountain]

there, added commments

[sharp geyser]

you shouldnt insert into a child if there is no parent

[lyric mountain]

yes, but you could

[sharp geyser]

I guess

but it doesn't logically make sense

[lyric mountain]

this trigger would generate a parent if one doesnt exist

[sharp geyser]

ic

[lyric mountain]

in a code example, triggers work like this:

void insertRows(Rows[] rows) {
  for (Row row : rows) {
    beforeInsert(row);
    insert(row);
    afterInsert(row);
  }
}

or if not using FOR EACH ROW, it'd be like this ```java
void insertRows(Rows[] rows) {
beforeInsert();

for (Row row : rows) {
insert(row);
}

afterInsert();
}

[sharp geyser]

java man

I cant read java

can you do it in lua

😏

jokes aside, thanks haku I understand a bit more

[eternal osprey]

@lyric mountain you are good with java right?
How much overhead in kb/mb idk do class serialization add?

Cuz suppose you want to create a seperate class instance for 500 rows, for let's say hadoop parallel processing. then they all need to be in a java class but it means that it will add a class overhead to the already existing data.

[sharp geyser]

what the fuck is hoolahoop parallel processing

[lyric mountain]

it's...complicated

Class overhead is 14 bytes iirc

but it's really hard to get a precise formula as it's implementation detail

your best option is to use some agent like JOL or JAMM

[eternal osprey]

hadoop, a way to process one big dataset using a distributed set of servers

[eternal osprey]

i see, what do they do?

[lyric mountain]

they measure

[sharp geyser]

this is all becoming too big brain for me

so ima dip

[eternal osprey]

hmm i see

[lyric mountain]

tho u did mention "class serialization", what kind?

json?

[eternal osprey]

in hadoop, we can serialize a certain row of data into java classes.
We then create classes for reducers and mappers as well.

It's really strange, hadoop uses java classes for some reason

let me give you a code snippet

[lyric mountain]

anyway, the only way to measure objects is through agents

give JOL a try, it aint hard to setup

[eternal osprey]

private static class MyMapper
extends Mapper<LongWritable, Text, Text, IntWritable> {
private final static IntWritable ONE = new IntWritable(1);
private final static Text WORD = new Text();
@Override
public void map(LongWritable key, Text value, Context context)
throws IOException, InterruptedException {
String line = ((Text) value).toString();
StringTokenizer itr = new StringTokenizer(line);
while (itr.hasMoreTokens()) {
WORD.set(itr.nextToken());
context.write(WORD, ONE);
}
}
}

[eternal osprey]

alrighty, i'll have a look.

[lyric mountain]

https://github.com/openjdk/jol

the readme only mentions cmdline commands, but u can use it from code too

[eternal osprey]

i see i'll set it up and let you know if something happens. Thanks!

[lyric mountain]

yw

[hybrid rover]

what do i do if i have to change a bot’s oauth2 invite permissions (to make lock command work) on top.gg but it’s already been invited by some pepole with the current permissions on discord.py?

[deft wolf]

I don't know if you can do anything except add some information (embed) when executing the command that the bot lacks permission

Personally, I would make an announcement on my support server and those who follow the announcements would notice and possibly give the bot appropriate (new) permissions and the rest, unfortunately, remains unaware

[tulip plume]

Add a check on the command and tell the users if permission not found, to give bot new perm

you should have checks on the commands anyways if it uses some permission that normal bots dont need

otherwise you just get members who are confused on why it doesnt work

[frosty gale]

unrelated

is sql turing complete

[lyric mountain]

Sql no, plpgsql is

In fact if you included postgres http extensions, you could probably write a bot on it

And it has native support to json

[neon leaf]

sounds like a 3am project

[frosty gale]

ive never used postgres yet but its sounding better day by day

[neon leaf]

its superior

[frosty gale]

ive only ever used sqlite3 and for servers mysql/mariadb

turns out ive been missing out

can i write a trigger in js

i see python is on the trigger language list

[lyric mountain]

TIL plpython is a thing

https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/PL_Matrix

IT HAS RUST WTF

holy hell pljava ftw

????

even shell lmao

[neon leaf]

lmao

[lyric mountain]

guess the fuckin what

there's also javascript

honestly I didn't even consider there were other langs for postgres procedures

[surreal sage]

https://x.com/coolermaster/status/1793733708823834978

Cooler Master (@CoolerMaster) on X

Twitter · May 23, 2024, 8:00 PM

[frosty gale]

of course the rust people had to slide their pesky fingers into the postgres language list

[neon leaf]

does someone know how to improve my prisma sql query performance,
this is the current code

const versions = await ctr.useCache(`versions::builds::${type}`, async() => Object.fromEntries(await Promise.all((await ctr["@"].database.minecraftVersion.findMany({
                        where: {
                            builds: {
                                some: {
                                    type
                                }
                            }
                        }, select: {
                            id: true,
                            type: true,
                            supported: true,
                            created: true
                        }, orderBy: {
                            created: 'asc'
                        }
                    })).map(async(version) => [
                        version.id,
                        {
                            type: version.type,
                            supported: version.supported,
                            created: version.created,
                            builds: await ctr["@"].database.minecraftServerBuild.count({
                                where: {
                                    type,
                                    versionId: version.id
                                }
                            }), latest: await ctr["@"].database.minecraftServerBuild.findFirst({
                                where: {
                                    type,
                                    versionId: version.id
                                }, orderBy: {
                                    id: 'desc'
                                }, select: ctr["@"].database.commons.build(false)
                            })
                        }
                    ]))), (t) => t(2).m())```

for each version it finds, it does 2 extra queries in promise.all, problem is this is insanely slow when you have 650 versions (5+ sec),
I already tried putting the resulting 1300 queries into one single transaction but that made it even slower

[lyric mountain]

that's...sql?

[neon leaf]

well

it uses sql

and I can use raw sql if needed

[lyric mountain]

raw sql would very likely be easier to optimize

just show the UML of the tables and say what u want to get

[neon leaf]

i want all minecraft versions where theres a build with type = xxx

and then for every version I want the count of builds and the latest on the same version (latest = highest id)

[lyric mountain]

what's the name of the first table

[neon leaf]

minecraftServerBuilds

[lyric mountain]

u said "the count of builds", but where's that data?

[neon leaf]

i just count rows in minecraftServerBuilds where versionId = xxxx

and type = xxx

[lyric mountain]

so the first table is child of the second?

[neon leaf]

technically yes

[lyric mountain]

then that's actually a pretty short query

SELECT mv.id
     , count(msb.id) AS builds
     , max(msb.id) AS latest
FROM minecraftVersions mv
INNER JOIN minecraftServerBuilds msb ON msb.versionId = mv.id
WHERE mv.type = :TYPE
GROUP BY mv.id

ok ok, what?

atomics are just regular properties with get/set, the diff being they're updated across threads

that is, it exists as a single value

I still dont think I get what you mean exactly

got any example?

[neon leaf]

is there a way to directly select fields from latest?

[lyric mountain]

yes, simply remove the group by and make count/max run on a window

actually, dont

make a select from the resultset

SELECT *
FROM (
    SELECT mv.id
         , count(msb.id) AS builds
         , max(msb.id) AS latest
    FROM minecraftVersions mv
    INNER JOIN minecraftServerBuilds msb ON msb.versionId = mv.id
    WHERE mv.type = :TYPE
    GROUP BY mv.id
) x
INNER JOIN minecraftServerBuilds msb ON msb.id = x.latest

[neon leaf]

wow

[lyric mountain]

can't you just put a reference of the block renderer on a variable in block entity?

[neon leaf]

I thank you so much

this work amazing

[lyric mountain]

why not?

[lyric mountain]

I suggest trying to learn sql, most queries are rather simple to make and MUCH more optimized than any library could ever generate

if you want to make sure not to hold references from the GC, use WeakReference

just make sure to check whether it wasn't already collected before using the value

[neon leaf]

@lyric mountain from 7sec down to 60ms lol

[lyric mountain]

nice

btw, try to specify what fields you want instead of *

[neon leaf]

it has exactly all i need now

[lyric mountain]

ah ok

[neon leaf]

except latest but im not gonna type everything out for one field

[lyric mountain]

it does include latest no?

as * will pull values from x too

[lyric mountain]

4th field

[neon leaf]

ye

ok well I am having one last issue

I cant figure out where to put my sort by

[lyric mountain]

it should be at the topmost query

where u put it in the image u showed is correct

[neon leaf]

I guess x.id just does not exist then

uhh wait

ignore the missing desc

[lyric mountain]

it's not sort

it's order

[neon leaf]

ohhhh

thanks again lol

[lyric mountain]

also ordering by latest wont do anything

as all latest are the same value

[neon leaf]

i mean it works

[lyric mountain]

yes, but it doesn't change the order at all

[neon leaf]

it does sir

[lyric mountain]

huh?

it shouldn't

[neon leaf]

I mean it was random before so yeah

[lyric mountain]

ah, there's an issue there

[neon leaf]

wdym

[lyric mountain]

you cannot do this

filtering HAS to be in WHERE clause

the order by is working because ur not filtering at all

[neon leaf]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[lyric mountain]

and it's likely duplicating results

[neon leaf]

well duplicating no

689 versions is expected

and its what i get

[lyric mountain]

the reason it shouldn't sort is because ur filtering by version id

if all builds are under the same version id, then all builds will have the same latest value

it's like sorting by "most delicious oranges" and also getting bananas and pears

[nova ridge]

Hi

Can this sarwar provide me free bot

[lyric mountain]

no, but you can search for pre-existing ones

[nova ridge]

Can you help me

[hybrid rover]

do i just tell them “Try reinviting me at (link here)” when the bot doesn’t have perms?

[tulip plume]

No, you tell them which perm the bot needs, so they can update the role or give bot a new role with higher perms

you can ofc tell em to reinvite

[hybrid rover]

oh ok

[tulip plume]

but why not just say what perm it needs

[hybrid rover]

cuz i think it’s simpler to just reinvite

[tulip plume]

well, anways you should have a check regardless.

Like

            return channel.permissions_for(guild.me).send_messages```

or whatever your bot needs

[hybrid rover]

except discord.Forbidden:
    await interaction.response.send_message("I don't have permission to lock this channel, try reinviting me at (i will put the link here)", ephemeral=True) ```
i tried making this, is it ok?

[tulip plume]

its fine, but i would run the check before your the main function, so you can return early instead of have to rely on try except

[hybrid rover]

wdym by running the check

like

do i replace the send_message perm with manage_roles then what do i do

[tulip plume]

Do you know that discord.py offers a check decorator? Which also supports custom checks

This check will run before your main function.
You then can have a error handle file, which where you can handle it

[hybrid rover]

yes i knew that discord.py had a check decorator but i don’t understand how to implement it

[tulip plume]

you make a decorator like:
It needs to return true or false

def func():
    async def predicate(interaction: discord.Interaction) -> bool:
        ... 
    return app_commands.check(predicate)```

and then you just add 
@func to your command

and then you can handle errors on

async def on_app_command_error(self,interaction: Interaction, error: AppCommandError):
... 
        if isinstance(error, discord.app_commands.errors.MissingAnyRole):
          ...

and so on

[frosty gale]

even discord.js doesnt have this advanced functionality

[wheat mesa]

This is very similar to what I did in my little mini framework I use for my bots

[lyric mountain]

I also do something similar lmao

[wheat mesa]

It’s also what detritus did/does

I have a couple of dedicated functions for different parts of the command running process

All optional ofc

[lyric mountain]

you can actually make your dev life 1000% better if you invest in making helpers and automated checks

which is why I spent 2 months writing my framework before even starting to write the commands

now writing anything is effortless

[eternal osprey]

yuppp

i made like a folder with reusable helpers for different purposes

and code templates

[lyric mountain]

sharpen your knife now so you don't have to cut beef with a blunt edge later

[eternal osprey]

i don't think that's a valid saying but i feel you kuu 🗣️

[lyric mountain]

it is now

[eternal osprey]

let string = "testtest"
function checkDuplicates(){
  let leftPointer = 0;
  let rightPointer = string.length / 2;
  let duplicates = false;
  while(true){
    if(leftPointer == string.length / 2 && rightPointer == string.length){
      duplicates = true;
      break; 
  }
  else if(!string[leftPointer] || !string[rightPointer]){
    break;
  }
  else if(string[leftPointer] != string[rightPointer]){
    break;
  }else{
    leftPointer += 1;
    rightPointer += 1
  }
  }
  return duplicates;
}
console.log(checkDuplicates())```

does anyone know how wheter the code can be more optimized?

I didn't use a double for loop on purpose as i need this function to run on pretty big textx

[sharp geyser]

What the fuck

[eternal osprey]

??

[sharp geyser]

where's the indentation

😭

[eternal osprey]

man fuck the identation

[sharp geyser]

fair enough

gotta keep it optimized

[eternal osprey]

i fixed it

i love the 2 pointer method

[pine willow]

went a bit wrong

[sharp geyser]

bro gave himself a virus on his own website

your page is infected sir

[pine willow]

its just js and html

[sharp geyser]

ik

[proven lantern]

is there a library that would create these index.js files automatically? should i just write something to do it myself?

[pine willow]

HELP MY PC LAGS SO HARD

I CANT CLOSE IT

ALT f4 DOESNT WORK

bruh task manager crashed

[proven lantern]

would i need to build the index.js files during the build or should i create them right before they are accessed?

[pine willow]

HOW TF

[proven lantern]

f12
ctrl + shift + p
"Disable JavaScript"

[pine willow]

not needed edge crashed

time to make the site more powerful

https://files.sky.h4ck.me/files/8gUUzy.png

i think its 502 bad gateway

[proven lantern]

have you tried using windows key + shift + s?

[pine willow]

mhm?

[proven lantern]

here you go

const pause = ms => new Promise(resolve => setTimeout(() => resolve(), ms));
const makeSound = async ()=> {
    const context = new AudioContext();
    const oscillator = context.createOscillator();
    oscillator.type = "sawtooth";
    oscillator.frequency.value = 1200;
    oscillator.connect(context.destination);
    oscillator.start();
    await pause(100);
    oscillator.stop();
}
makeSound();```

[lament rock]

This would be really simple to do yourself. Read fs dir excluding index.js, append to a string +=
const ${fileNameHere} = require(\./${fileNameHere}`);\n`

loop again at the end inside of a module.exports and just declare the variable.

[proven lantern]

what about something like this?

const fs = require('fs');

const requirer = modulePath => {
    
    // make sure index.js has been created in the module folder
    const module = fs.existsSync(`./${modulePath}/index.js`);

    // create the index.js file if it doesn't exist
    if (!module) {
        
        // todo: create the index.js file
        const indexjs = '';
        fs.writeFileSync(`./${modulePath}/index.js`, indexjs);
    }
    return require(`./${modulePath}/index.js`);
}```

oh wait

[willow stream]

How do you make a bot

[proven lantern]

need to try

[proven lantern]

go to https://discord.com/developers/applications

[willow stream]

Ok thanks

[proven lantern]

const fs = require('fs');

const requirer = modulePath => {

    // make sure index.js has been created in the module folder
    const indexExists = fs.existsSync(`./${modulePath}/index.js`);

    // create the index.js file if it doesn't exist
    if (indexExists === false) {

        // get the name of every file in the module folder
        const files = fs.readdirSync(`./${modulePath}`);

        // create the index.js file with the require statements
        const requireStatements = files.map(file => {
            const fileName = file.split('.')[0];
            return `const ${fileName} = require('./${fileName}');`;
        }).join('\n');

        // create the module.exports statement
        const moduleExports = files.map(file => {
            const fileName = file.split('.')[0];
            return `${fileName},`;
        }).join('\n');

        // create the index.js file
        const indexjs = `${requireStatements}\n\nmodule.exports = {\n${moduleExports}\n};`;
        fs.writeFileSync(`./${modulePath}/index.js`, indexjs);
    }
    return require(`./${modulePath}/index.js`);
}```

[willow stream]

Okay I made it

1243396666506215494

How do I make it trade and upload it to Top.gg

[proven lantern]

you need to write a program that uses the bot api key to do what you want it to do

[willow stream]

What website do I do it on

[proven lantern]

any cloud provider can host it

[sharp geyser]

First you need to learn how to program

[proven lantern]

just ask chat gpt and it'll write it for you

[sharp geyser]

Please do not ever recommend that to someone

[proven lantern]

you like co-pilot better?

[sharp geyser]

I don't use any ai assistance

But telling someone to just use chatgpt is wrong

[proven lantern]

try out GitHub Copilot

[sharp geyser]

No

Im good

[proven lantern]

i want to try out the JetBrains AI, but they are pushing it too hard

JetBrains broke the copilot plugin when they introduced their AI

[willow stream]

What do you use

[proven lantern]

i use AWS but that's pretty tricky

and you need to setup a credit card

[sharp geyser]

Im sorry for your bank account

[sharp geyser]

Dont even worry about a hosting provider

First get your bot working locally

[proven lantern]

i agree with this. get it working locally

[sharp geyser]

You can figure that all out later

[proven lantern]

use ngrok

[willow stream]

Can I give one of you my bot

[sharp geyser]

no

[proven lantern]

no thanks

[willow stream]

K

[pine willow]

Well i can host your bots

[sharp geyser]

💀

[pine willow]

but not for free

with panel access etc

[pine willow]

problem?

[proven lantern]

how dare you engage in enterprise

[pine willow]

Huh?

[proven lantern]

just kidding

[proven lantern]

i shouldn't do it this way

[pine willow]

Anything wrong?

[sharp geyser]

?

[pine willow]

Why do you react with a Skull when i Said that i can host the bots

[sharp geyser]

cause I wanted to

[pine willow]

Alr.

[lyric mountain]

@sharp geyser this is funny

[sharp geyser]

what the fuck

is that rust

i cant tell bro

😭

[lyric mountain]

lmao me doing rust?

[sharp geyser]

idk

[lyric mountain]

no, that's groovy

[sharp geyser]

idk any other language that uses ::

other than c++

[lyric mountain]

that's passing the method as a reference

instead of calling it

I could also use .& but I prefer the dots

[frosty gale]

rust doesnt have switch cases

they made a glorified version of them called matches

[sharp geyser]

oh right

bro im tired

also

why are you making a meth endpoint

[lyric mountain]

lul, doing a self-finding endpoint registrer

then found out I can simply return the methods on a switch and calling it after to avoid repeating the same thing again and again

[sharp geyser]

ah

so meth = method

💀

thought bro was cooking

and not in a good way

[lyric mountain]

[proven lantern]

i wrote this and made an npm script to run it. then i manually check in the index.js files. this should work

const fs = require('fs');
const path = require('path');

const rootPath = path.resolve(process.cwd(), 'interaction-handler/common');
const folders = fs.readdirSync(rootPath);
for (const folder of folders) {
    // make sure folder is a directory
    if (!fs.lstatSync(path.resolve(rootPath, folder)).isDirectory()) {
        continue;
    }

    const folderPath = path.resolve(rootPath, folder);
    const files = fs.readdirSync(folderPath)
        // filter out index.js
        .filter(file => file !== 'index.js');

    const requireStatements = files.map(file => {
        const fileName = file.split('.')[0];
        return `const ${fileName} = require('./${fileName}');`;
    }).join('\n');
    const moduleExports = files.map(file => {
        const fileName = file.split('.')[0];
        return `    ${fileName},`;
    }).join('\n');
    const indexjs = `${requireStatements}\n\nmodule.exports = {\n${moduleExports}\n};`;
    fs.writeFileSync(path.resolve(folderPath, 'index.js'), indexjs);
}

[sharp geyser]

What problem were you trying to solve

[proven lantern]

manually creating these files

[sharp geyser]

uh

well the idea behind barrel files is you add onto them as you go

not at the very end

💀

[proven lantern]

i wanted something like Project Lombok but for JS

[proven lantern]

im refactoring all the stuff out of the utility folder. it got too big

[quartz kindle]

i just do that at runtime

like my index.js file is basically your script

[proven lantern]

im actually starting to think about not doing it at all.

i wont be able to use intellij refactoring once i make the change

i just want to clean up my imports so they aren't taking up so many lines

[wheat mesa]

Java & rust

iirc php also uses it

[pearl trail]

and some of C#

using config = System.Configuration;
...
var value = config::ConfigurationManager.AppSettings["Somthing"];
```  ![Troll](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/929942223716499496.webp?size=128 "Troll")

[sharp geyser]

yuh

[radiant kraken]

what is :: in C# for

[wheat mesa]

extern perhaps

[civic scroll]

namespace member access, static method access

[wheat mesa]

(I think null meant C#)

[civic scroll]

oh

[radiant kraken]

oh wait i meant C#

i just woke up

[radiant kraken]

extern?

[pearl trail]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/language-reference/operators/namespace-alias-qualifier

[radiant kraken]

ohhh icic thanks :)

[frosty gale]

c++ also

[frosty gale]

i think time has come to design my own file system

goal is for it to be comparable to ext4

unlike ntfs which just dumps data anywhere it can fit it on the drive which kills hard drive performance

[lament rock]

you wont always be able to put stuff in contiguous blocks so the amount of usable space drops dramatically. How often a user will have to defragment or you run a defrag operation could be frequent which is a very costly and lengthy operation

more so than just using free space

[neon leaf]

make ext5

[lyric mountain]

Well, it surely kills hdd performance, not so much ssd performance

[urban delta]

i have a question

do in lark there is the spanish punctuation

like inverted exclamation

and interrogation?

[lament rock]

most languages are based on English, so unlikely

[urban delta]

i see i need to convert into something that it can interpret

also how do i open a traceback object?

here it's suppose to be print exec:

not traceback object

i have no idea why this didn't defected cid as cidilhja

*cidilha

that is ç character when transforming

wait

now i realize i'm being stupid

[urban delta]

okay so, goota get the special characters from spanish

so my ASCII is finished

[quartz kindle]

can any math dude confirm whether x - (a - b) is always equal to b - (a - x)?

[solemn latch]

feels like a marco question

[quartz kindle]

its a genuine math question, like mathematically is that formula equal or not

like how do you prove mathematically that one formula equals another formula?

[frosty gale]

ive thrown it into desmos and it would appear so, with the exception that the resulting coordinates are flipped

[quartz kindle]

no idea what that means, but i guess the answer is true

if so, i've been bamboozled by IEEE 754

[frosty gale]

ah nevermind yeah they seem to be identical

[wheat mesa]

It’s always equal

[quartz kindle]

believe it or not, my program literally crashed because of this

[wheat mesa]

You can work out the algebra but you get x - a + b = x - a + b

[quartz kindle]

text version if you wanna try it out

360 - (357.2459354891127 - 18.56128351829587)```

[frosty gale]

probably some rounding error because of the order of operation

does it really matter though

[quartz kindle]

my program crashed

because of it

lmao

return a === planet || (angleDistance(planet, a) < d && angleDistance(planet, b) < d);
``` this is why it crashed

[frosty gale]

floats shouldnt really be relied on for precise calculations because they suck

even if you have infinite precision because it will still eventually screw up

[quartz kindle]

bamboozled by IEEE 754

[wheat mesa]

I don’t see why this would crash it

[quartz kindle]

i mean, the line doesnt crash, but it caused an index not found situation, which leads to cant read X of Y

[wheat mesa]

IEEE754 isn’t fully accurate but iirc it uses a rounding error for checking equality

Actually maybe I’m wrong

There’s something called the epsilon value you might want to look into if you’re comparing floats

[neon leaf]

or use a library like decimaljs

[quartz kindle]

what happened was:
i have 3 points in a circle, and need to find out if point A is after point B and before point C
so i check if point A equals point B, or if distance from A to B and distance from A to C are both smaller than distance from B to C

but due to that rounding error, A was not equal to B, but the distance from A to C was equal as the distance from B to C

biggest LMAO moment ever in my JS career

[frosty gale]

the reason why tim decided to retire from js

[quartz kindle]

my code literally did the equivalent of X !== A && (X - B === A - B)

never trust float math, always use <= and >=

[lament rock]

Need a Math.approx

[frosty gale]

i wonder if theres a bank that stores balance as a float

if so thats the easiest money glitch

[lament rock]

I'm working on a library that does Math on strings

ofc, it will only do it if all characters are a digit or it has one . for floats

[civic scroll]

i just truncate, exponent them up, then recast

😔

[lament rock]

Man. Why do all C programmers talk about STDs? I'm scared my computer will give me one if I start on a clang

[frosty gale]

theres many different std versions too

but you dont have to use the stds if you dont want to

[proven lantern]

is there any IDE that can refactor imports using barrel files? For instance if i wanted to move bar into group2 is that possible with refactoring tools?

[proven lantern]

DEC64 would have fixed this

[lyric mountain]

Intellij/webstorm can no?

[proven lantern]

nope, nothing that i've seen. i asked in their forums

[lyric mountain]

Then it's likely unfeasible/not doable

Perhaps it's due to the imports being relative, not full paths

In which case it'd not be possible to locate all references

[proven lantern]

I haven't heard back yet. Just asked, but I don't think it exists.

[lyric mountain]

Try transforming the imports into full paths

[proven lantern]

It's possible, it would just need to parse the left side of the import.

[lyric mountain]

And seeing if the refractor applies

[proven lantern]

There are some linters that will do that I think

https://www.npmjs.com/package/eslint-plugin-no-barrel-files
https://github.com/gajus/eslint-plugin-canonical#no-barrel-import

[limber wigeon]

Hello, where can i ask about my bot commit from a month ago ?

[deft wolf]

This one? #mod-logs message

[limber wigeon]

ahahah no way, it has millions of help commands

it's even written in the bot description

fair 😄

[deft wolf]

If you have any questions, you can write to the person who checked your bot

[limber wigeon]

I described the help command 15 times , surely it will be enough

🙏

[limber wigeon]

Thank you

[deft wolf]

[tall talon]

its wrong

[deft wolf]

Write a private message to the person who checked your bot. You can discuss with them whether the rejection is correct or not

[limber wigeon]

I am going to lose my mind

@bitter granite hello 😇

[bitter granite]

yes i am in the middle of the dms

[pine willow]

lol

[limber wigeon]

@bitter granite did you create a channel that starts with avalon- as described and used the command aqh (= help) ?

The manual and comments describe what one should :
1/ run the command « asetup »
2/ run the command « aqh » to see the help

I described this very extensively in the notes for mods

[pine willow]

is it really a bot coded by you?

[limber wigeon]

Of course it is

Why do you ask

[tall talon]

i did and he reply

[tall talon]

thank you

[pine willow]

ok...

[limber wigeon]

I already have 2 bots on here

[limber wigeon]

What seems to be the issue ?

I’m the sole dev and I poured my soul into that one for the last 4 months.

[pine willow]

k cool

[pine willow]

send me a bot invite via dm

[limber wigeon]

It’s in my profile description

Im on my phone , I’ll try to manage a copy paste but I’m not sure Discord mobile will let me

[pine willow]

i found it

[limber wigeon]

asetup
Aqh on the created channel

[pine willow]

prefix?

[limber wigeon]

it’s all in the chat like karuta

but the letter a is always the first letter

you don’t need the /

Just aqh

[lyric mountain]

Why enforce a specific channel name?

[limber wigeon]

It’s enforced as a good practice for servers who want to use it. Otherwise commands and spam of commands could be inadvertently triggered on any channel on the server. It also helps the privacy side of things as the bot only reads channels dedicated to the game from this practice. It doesn’t read the other channels on the server.

[tender ermine]

So what happens if I type a sentence that begins with a?

[lyric mountain]

Couldn't u use a white-list for that?

[limber wigeon]

Only actual commands will trigger a response

[lyric mountain]

I say this cuz I know a plenty of servers that like to stylize their channels, with unicode stuff and all

[limber wigeon]

Can you expand on what you mean with a whitelist ?

I whitelist channels and keywords

[lyric mountain]

/allow #channel for example

Then only that channel will be checked for cmands

[limber wigeon]

I could add this but that is just another way of looking at step 1

I create the channel for them in one command

[lyric mountain]

Yes, but the name would be allowed to be anything

[limber wigeon]

As explained , it only does something if its an actual command

[limber wigeon]

Is that a request so the bot can be validated ?

[lyric mountain]

Not really

Just a tip to avoid people discarding the bot cuz naming rules

For example one of the servers my bot is in

[limber wigeon]

I see

[lyric mountain]

People like to make naming patterns

Some don't even use normal characters

But those "cool" characters

[limber wigeon]

How did you manage to persist the « allow » without a db call ?

Disc flag ?

[torn tartan]

what do you guys recommend for dashboard, do i have to make it myself from the ground up

[frosty gale]

theres a million different ways to make one and it gets pretty annoying

you can make a custom one if you want to but a lot of people opt in for using some managed service that handles the UI part of it and you just code the functionality

or use a dashboard template and edit it to work with you

[torn tartan]

ye thats what i want, i dont really have much experience making websites, and when ive searched up how to make a dashboard for your discord bot for example, the only "good" ones ive found just make them from the ground up

and it looks real ugly

dont wanna learn html, css, and js

[limber wigeon]

My reply a little bit up

[frosty gale]

yeah just wanna say its not easy, i was in your position a few years ago

i ended up making an extremely simple one with the help of https://getbootstrap.com/

which helps you out with aspects of ui

[lyric mountain]

Db call

[frosty gale]

was wondering where he got without a db from

[lyric mountain]

They didn't, they're using a fixed-name rule

But well, to further answer you, I have a settings table that has a bunch of customizable settings for servers, which I retrieve for every command, so I always have it at hand anyway

[limber wigeon]

Calling the db on each command ?

[lyric mountain]

Well, in my case it's for every message lul

[limber wigeon]

Oh my g..

I’m not doing that

[wheat mesa]

Databases are able to handle lots of calls

[lyric mountain]

You can do for every command without issue

I do it for every message somply because prefix is customizable

[wheat mesa]

These things are meant to handle hundreds of queries per second

[lyric mountain]

Also for some other stuff like xp buffs and whatnot

Do note tho, in my case I cache unmodified entities

[bitter granite]

I just saw this
for help cmd
it needs to work without external permision (https://bit.ly/botperms)
and work in any channel without special channel name

[bitter granite]

^ @limber wigeon

[lyric mountain]

^ also another reason why u should have a whitelist command if u want to restrict commands

Not everyone gives bots moderation perms

[deft wolf]

Db call every time someone uses a command in your bot is nothing, I save, read and update information in the database at the time of each new reddit post on several thousand subreddits

[lyric mountain]

Lmao

[deft wolf]

If my database can handle it, so can yours

[bitter granite]

I now wanna know how many read do you get per month

[deft wolf]

Someday I will have to create a system to analyze e.g. the number of posts in a month or something like that, but for now I don't feel like doing it

[bitter granite]

Update me if you did

[lyric mountain]

The only database I ever found that struggled with constant transactions is firebird

[bitter granite]

i wish i understand database thou

(My data base exams score is 20)

[frosty gale]

i'd still put things like that in a small local cache but sure

but in these use cases it really doesnt matter

[surreal sage]

how can i bundle an entire js/ts project with dependencies

ive tried esbuild and some other things

but i kept getting Error: Dynamic require of "fs" is not supported

[frosty gale]

looks related https://github.com/evanw/esbuild/issues/1921

looks iffy though did you try other things

depends on your use case though

[limber wigeon]

Thank you for your reply. I appreciate it. I will allow the aqh command to work on any channel.

[deft wolf]

Is it 22 million queries?

data from about 15 days because I restarted my VPS

[sharp geyser]

I guess so

If that’s data for tracking db operations

[deft wolf]

Yep

[frosty gale]

LongNumber

[deft wolf]

NumberLong

[gusty linden]

after a long day finally got my bots advertisement system too work properly now i get to rest and look at my masterpiece oonce i add a cooldown system too it

[pale vessel]

i haven't heard pocketmine in a while

was like 9 messing around with it for an mcpe server

[gusty linden]

its not my actual server i run its someone elses that im partnered with but the goal of the bot is to provide a useful multiutil mc discord bot

[deft wolf]

Isn't Pocketmine dead because java players can't connect? I think I heard about an engine that allows both platforms to connect

[gusty linden]

yeah there was an engine and no pocketmine is still kinda alive

[gusty linden]

also how did you get the experienced role?

[deft wolf]

If I knew, I would tell you

I just sit here and help and answer questions and stuff. There is no strict requirement to get it

[frosty gale]

not sure why this system wasnt implemented sooner

[limber wigeon]

My understanding is that other bots similar to mine count on the fact that the admins of the server are going to limit the bot "read" right to the channels they want the bot to be used on

[gusty linden]

it was in like pckt mine 2 and 3

but not available in 4 nor 5

[limber wigeon]

But giving full responsibility to admins has shown to be a very poor idea in the past

And that whole idea of having to run 1 sql request for every command to check if that channel on that server is allowed gives me nightmares of shame and despair

[gusty linden]

?

[limber wigeon]

So I think i'll just do as other massively popular bots do and do nothing

[deft wolf]

I have made 22 million queries in the last 15 days, really 1 query per command is nothing that terrible and the database is unfortunately a must have in my opinion

[limber wigeon]

Help me process that feeling because just reading this make me want to cry

Has technology advanced enough that we can call a database non stop or

[deft wolf]

That's the problem, databases were created for this purpose - to be able to process thousands of requests per second

[limber wigeon]

It reminds me of how perfectly great games were 4Mb 20 years ago and are now 400Gb

like , What are we doing

[gusty linden]

welp ngl my bot saves random msg content for it automod system and refuses to delete them after a certain period as my bot forgets things in like 20 secs

[frosty gale]

just add a cache, its not a big deal, if the settings are not in the cache for that specific server, ask the database for it and store it in cache for future commands

that way you only have 1 database call for each server

[limber wigeon]

caching will still cost a lot on reboots

[frosty gale]

it wont

only cache the servers that use the commands

that way you only cache the things that are in use and on the go

[gusty linden]

wait you pay to host your bot?

[limber wigeon]

And put everything in a collection that is used to check allowed channels, yep, that's what i had in mind but still, if i get 50000+ servers, it might take a while

[frosty gale]

you dont have to do that

thats not a good idea regardless

[limber wigeon]

1€ / sql request yes (just kidding)

[gusty linden]

my bot uses sql for free lol

[limber wigeon]

I use mariadb on an EC2 but it's not the point

[gusty linden]

but either way everything thing in my bot is hosted for free incl database but mine is limited to the storage i have in my server

you just need to find a way around issues

if you cant get it to work or fix it work around that issue and you may find the solution later on