development

[sharp geyser]

yes but tim, im sure you understand asm

[lyric mountain]

Cuz it becomes unreadable after the first line

[quartz kindle]

no really tbh

[sharp geyser]

[lyric mountain]

Also did I mention jsfuck cannot have newlines?

[quartz kindle]

i understand the concept, but i wouldnt know how to read asm

[sharp geyser]

it can if you use js to write jsfuck

const jsfuck = `` 

[quartz kindle]

cant you somehow eval \n?

[sharp geyser]

eval it

[lyric mountain]

Yes, i meant while coding

[sharp geyser]

do not call jsfuck coding

its torture

[lyric mountain]

If u break the line u break the flow

[quartz kindle]

ah ye

js implicitly adds semicolons

[lyric mountain]

Spaces too, they separate the elements

[sharp geyser]

I wish jsfuck never existed

the idea of it

[quartz kindle]

thats like wishing math wouldnt exist

[sharp geyser]

what

[lyric mountain]

Jsfuck is just js' sins coming out to the open

[quartz kindle]

it will always come back, even if its gone

[sharp geyser]

[quartz kindle]

because someone somewhere will invent it again

[sharp geyser]

I swear someone died for those

should of stayed hidden

[sharp geyser]

I'd be happy if its after I die hen I wouldnt have to look at it

(![]+[])[+!+[]]+(![]+[])[!+[]+!+[]]+(!![]+[])[!+[]+!+[]+!+[]]+(!![]+[])[+!+[]]+(!![]+[])[+[]]+([][(![]+[])[+[]]+(![]+[])[!+[]+!+[]]+(![]+[])[+!+[]]+(!![]+[])[+[]]]+[])[+!+[]+[!+[]+!+[]+!+[]]]+[+!+[]]+([+[]]+![]+[][(![]+[])[+[]]+(![]+[])[!+[]+!+[]]+(![]+[])[+!+[]]+(!![]+[])[+[]]])[!+[]+!+[]+[+[]]] cause WTF is this bro

[quartz kindle]

xD

imagine you write a program in jsfuck and compile it with the movfuscator

[lyric mountain]

Ah yes, it was +[] to fuckin transform it to string for some reason

[quartz kindle]

someone tries to decompile it... only movs
hacks your pc steals the source code.... only jsfuck

[lyric mountain]

I confused with +{}

[lyric mountain]

I wonder if u can apply some of those operations on regular coding

Like using +[] to call toString()

[quartz kindle]

you can just call +

[lyric mountain]

let smth = new SomeClass()+[]

[sharp geyser]

@shell tundra run this in your console

😏

[shell tundra]

That looks sussy

[sharp geyser]

its not

trust

[lyric mountain]

No, you see, +[] specifically for some reason calls toString() of whatever is to the left

[pearl trail]

😜

[sharp geyser]

I would never risk getting banned again

[quartz kindle]

people actually do that, weird coercions because its shorter to write

[lyric mountain]

Which is why {}+[] becomes [object Object]

[sharp geyser]

what

why

why does +[] call toString

wtf

my js code fixing to look confusing as fuck with this one

[lyric mountain]

Lmao they actually made protections against jsfuck

[quartz kindle]

its basically coercion abuse, the same as +"123" = 123

[sharp geyser]

im not surprised

jsfuck can get dangerous due to how obscure it is

so you can realistically hide anything in it, and send it to some moron who will run anything given to em

[quartz kindle]

a part of jsfuck only works using eval

and browsers like to block eval

[sharp geyser]

what if its not in the browser

but rather a js file

[quartz kindle]

then it will work

it will also work in a blank page

like about:blank

[sharp geyser]

Hey man install node, run this kthx for your information

[lyric mountain]

And it's pretty hard to revert to js

[quartz kindle]

there are protections in about:blank

[sharp geyser]

@shell tundra

[lyric mountain]

As a matter of fact, I did try to bypass blacklist filters on some bots' eval cmd

It works yeah

[shell tundra]

Zobs' **

[sharp geyser]

no

I call you zob

[shell tundra]

:(

[quartz kindle]

could've*

:^)

[sharp geyser]

should've*

[quartz kindle]

i feel like making a geocoding service based on geonames

idk why

[earnest phoenix]

heyyy guys!!

[rocky wave]

const { Client, GatewayIntentBits, MessageActionRow, MessageButton } = require('discord.js');
const { REST } = require('@discordjs/rest');
const { Routes } = require('discord-api-types/v9');

const clientId = 'x';
const guildId = 'x';

const commands = [
    {
        name: 'test',
        description: 'Open a test modal',
    },
];

const rest = new REST({ version: '9' }).setToken('x');

const client = new Client({
    intents: [
        GatewayIntentBits.Guilds,
        GatewayIntentBits.GuildMessages,
    ],
});

client.once('ready', async () => {
    console.log('Ready!');
    try {
        await rest.put(
            Routes.applicationGuildCommands(clientId, guildId),
            { body: commands },
        );

        console.log('Slash commands registered.');
    } catch (error) {
        console.error(error);
    }
});

client.on('interactionCreate', async interaction => {
    if (!interaction.isCommand()) return;

    const { commandName } = interaction;

    if (commandName === 'test') {
        const row = new MessageActionRow()
            .addComponents(
                new MessageButton()
                    .setCustomId('modal_trigger')
                    .setLabel('Open Modal')
                    .setStyle('PRIMARY'),
            );

        await interaction.reply({ content: 'Click the button to open the modal.', components: [row] });
    }
});

client.on('interactionCreate', async interaction => {
    if (!interaction.isButton()) return;

    if (interaction.customId === 'modal_trigger') {
        await interaction.reply({ content: 'Modal triggered.', ephemeral: true });
        await interaction.channel.send({ content: 'This is a test modal!' });
    }
});

client.login('x');

node:events:497
      throw er; // Unhandled 'error' event
      ^

TypeError: MessageActionRow is not a constructor
    at Client.<anonymous> (/home/reaper/Desktop/test/index.js:44:21)
    at Client.emit (node:events:531:35)


Emitted 'error' event on Client instance at:
    at emitUnhandledRejectionOrErr (node:events:402:10)
    at process.processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:84:21)

Help

[deft wolf]

[rocky wave]

Yea i asked same question everywhere lol you happen to be here too

[pearl trail]

MessageActionRow is only for early(?) discord.js@13 ™️

[sharp geyser]

What discord.js version

[sharp geyser]

I recommend updating to v14

[pearl trail]

seems like they're using djs v14

use this instead ActionRowBuilder

[sharp geyser]

discord.js v13 is still supported, but it wont have many of the new api features

Oh right builders

[pearl trail]

🤢

[sharp geyser]

nasty things

[pearl trail]

Cassandra.ServerErrorException: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: newLimit > capacity: (993079868 > 269) what does this mean? 💀 the error is at line 105

oh also adminlogs is LIST<TEXT>

[sharp geyser]

[sharp geyser]

whatever you are setting adminLogs to exceeds the capacity I think

Im not super experienced with java, but iirc a list has a certain capacity, and if you are adding onto it too much and it exceeds that capacity then it will error (I think, don't take what I say seriously, thats just my speculation)

Someone like @covert gale or @lyric mountain would be better suited to answer this

[pearl trail]

[pearl trail]

ok i got it working, i'm dumb. changed to this UPDATE modlogs SET adminlogs = ? + adminlogs WHERE guildid = ? and new List<string> {myData} instead of just string 😩

[radiant kraken]

what does ? + adminlogs do

[pearl trail]

? is the query to bind, adminlogs is the data from the db itself. so it's like adminlogs + ? is adminlogs.push(?) and then ? + adminlogs is adminlogs.unshift(?)

[radiant kraken]

ohh so it adds at the beginning?

[pale vessel]

is it like python's [1, 2, 3] + [something]

[covert gale]

i don't think so

i'm not sure about this but, you can probably hold atleast 2B entries

[frosty gale]

cassandra is too fat

[sharp geyser]

woah thats not nice

what if they have feelings

[pearl trail]

true true

[lyric mountain]

that's correct, for ArrayList

[lyric mountain]

what db is this?

[pearl trail]

cassandra

[lyric mountain]

no, db

ah nvm

cassandra is actually a db

[pearl trail]

[lyric mountain]

thought it was a c# database tool

[sharp geyser]

Lmao

No

Also they are using Java so that wouldn’t make sense

[lyric mountain]

that's c#

[sharp geyser]

It says a Java error

💀

[pearl trail]

cassandra is java yes. the C# driver just return the error from the server

[lyric mountain]

c# uses the same format lul

[sharp geyser]

I thought it was Java which is why I ponged haku

[sharp geyser]

Let’s be real haku

Idfk what Java code looks like

[lyric mountain]

lmao

java interpolated string prefix is STR

but the pascalcase methods are what gave it away

[sharp geyser]

Ima be real everything looks the same to me at 8am

[chilly hatch]

This is the authorisation check code for my discord.js v14 command;

if (!interaction.member.permissions.has(PermissionFlagsBits.Administrator)) {
        return interaction.reply({
            content: text.yoneticihata,
            ephemeral: true
        });
    }

I want the server founder to use it, how can I do it?

[lyric mountain]

dont check the perm, check if the id is the same as guild's ownerId

there can be many admins, but only 1 owner

[lament rock]

Made my own starboard system. Discord is lame and doesn't allow bots to set the video field of embeds

Its a fake image as a placeholder because just an empty embed is boring

[lyric mountain]

there's an upcoming crosspost feature, perhaps it'll help making starboard

[wild garnet]

why no one is interested to create an auto react bot?

[lyric mountain]

what do you mean by "auto react"?

[wild garnet]

reacting to every message in the channel

[lament rock]

Saw that. Waiting for that to be outside of announcement channels

[lament rock]

forums

[lyric mountain]

because it'd accomplish nothing

aside from destroying the ratelimit

[wild garnet]

what ratelimit will possibly attract in that case?

[lyric mountain]

reaction ratelimit

[wild garnet]

okay

[lament rock]

Reaction rate limit is 5 per 5 seconds

[lyric mountain]

on a moderately active server you could hang the bot simply by setting it to the general channel

[lament rock]

More like just hanging that bucket since I think it's per channel. But at scale, you can very easily hit the global rate limit

[pearl trail]

what permission(s) do a user need to make them as a "moderator"

is it manageGuild ?

[eternal osprey]

hey cuties. Any idea on the design here

these are basically flip cards

they describe keywords and once you flip them you are matched with a product.

[dusky idol]

You could possibly make a custom one, not that hard

[eternal osprey]

i reduced the opacity a little bit more already

which looks a bit better impo

[dusky idol]

What's this about if you don't mind me asking

[eternal osprey]

a site for fireplaces.

it's basically an "inspire me" section where customers can find a product that fits them best given some keywords on the cards

[dusky idol]

What

[dusky idol]

Oh interesting

[pearl trail]

on my bot, how to tell if someone is a "moderator" without them being administrator cause it's too high

like i bet @ moderators don't have administrator perm

[dusky idol]

It's a role?

Just make the bot check if they have the role

Or you could check if the user has x permissions

[pearl trail]

no 💀 i want to check em via permissions

[pearl trail]

yeah this

[dusky idol]

Which permission

[pearl trail]

that's what im asking 💀

[dusky idol]

Moderator isnt smth defined by discord, it's custom

Can be anything depending on the server

[pearl trail]

are they the almighty ban_members kick_members and manage_messages

[dusky idol]

If it's a public bot then I advice you to let admins customize the command and decide who they wanna allow using it

Either with a role or perm

[lyric mountain]

moderator often have those perms, but it's not a 100% case

on my bot I just check kick_members

[pearl trail]

ah

[lyric mountain]

ban sometimes is restricted to admins, cuz it's much more powerful than kick

but kick/timeout/manage msgs are nearly fundamental to moderator roles

since u cant moderate if you cant punish

[pearl trail]

i see i see, that makes sense

thank you!!

[muted bramble]

@dusty solstice

[dusky idol]

Do Views possibly fill up your resources? I was just wondering about it

If I define a view where
view = View(timeout=None)

and add buttons with their callbacks to this view, it's going to be live till the bot shuts down or reloads right. Where is this view getting saved even? In the memory of the bot or smth

If this view is getting stored, the buttons and other components stored inside will stay there too. Incase their callbacks have variables which stores images or other heavy data it could cause trouble or am I tripping

[lyric mountain]

context?

[dusky idol]

Lemme try writing a sample command but I'm on phone

[lyric mountain]

but well, anything held inside callbacks is kept in memory yes, alas why u shouldn't have outside references to it

if your lang doesn't have gc also, you need to make sure to destroy it

and close any streams

[dusky idol]

It's py

[lyric mountain]

also remember that callbacks are like normal functions

[dusky idol]

I doubt the gc would pick up on views or callbacks considering the view doesn't expire

[lyric mountain]

once you leave their scope, it's gone whatever was inside it

unless you reference said things somewhere else

[lyric mountain]

callbacks are literally instantiated functions

[dusky idol]

I see so the variables get redefined once someone clicks the buttons

[lyric mountain]

yes, like in functions

[dusky idol]

hm

[lyric mountain]

it's not that it's reset, it simply never existed within that scope

what happens inside, stays inside

[dusky idol]

Yeh I got you, basically the vars inside said callbacks are dropped after output

[lyric mountain]

yes

the only way to keep the value alive is to reference it in a higher scope

[dusky idol]

@commands.command()
async def sample(self, ctx):
 view = View(timeout=None)
 button = Button(style=disnake.ButtonStyle.green, label="Hi")
 
 async def callback(inter):
    await inter.response.send_message('hi')

 button.callback = callback
 view.add_item(button)
 await ctx.send(view=view)
 

I dunno if it looks alright or no errors as I typed it on phone

[dusky idol]

but eitherway, as the view is kept alive forever as it's timeout is set to None and "button" is added to it, I assume it's kept alive forever too

[lyric mountain]

the callback itself is, the values inside it aren't

[dusky idol]

Even tho the callback function is dropped after everytime someone clicks it

[dusky idol]

yes so the whole function is kept inside the memory as well? Just the values inside it aren't until someone clicks it then they get dropped again like normal function

[lyric mountain]

there's no "whole function"

[dusky idol]

hm

[lyric mountain]

to make it simple, imagine you have a phone

you call someone and have a very long chat

the moment you drop the phone, the chat ceases to exist

it never existed

[dusky idol]

hm

[lyric mountain]

only during your chat it actually had a meaning

[dusky idol]

makes sense

[lyric mountain]

it's also why a project can have several millions of lines code and yet fit in a handful of MBs

because that code doesn't have meaning until it's used

[dusky idol]

If I set the timeout to something for the view is it removed off the memory after its duration is over tho

[lyric mountain]

the callback instance is

[dusky idol]

view = View(timeout=10)

[lyric mountain]

imagine you grab the phone and throw it into a bin

[dusky idol]

After 10 seconds this view should be gone from memory

[lyric mountain]

you didn't destroy the chat, you destroyed the phone itself

[dusky idol]

yes

[lyric mountain]

but also, it's indeed not a good idea to have very long lived events

unless you have a specific need to keep it alive forever

simply because less events means less overhead

[dusky idol]

yes makes sense, I'm planning on making the views inside my code expire after a certain duration just to assure it's not cluttering memory up
If needed people can run the command back after a certain duration eitherway

[lyric mountain]

I release my buttons after 1 minute of inactivity

as long as someone is interacting with it, it'll be kept alive

[dusky idol]

How do you check that

[lyric mountain]

each of my events instantiate a timed action, I just reset its countdown whenever someone presses a button

if the countdown is allowed to reach 0, it removes the event from the handler

since there are no more references to the event, it becomes elligible for GC

[dusky idol]

I see

[surreal sage]

chat

should i invest in server racks and cases

[lyric mountain]

server hacks and csgo cases

[deft wolf]

Gamba

[pine willow]

Depends on your usage

[surreal sage]

im benelux

i cant gamble

i want to gamble

let me gamble

i love gambling

[surreal sage]

my usage: why not!

future proofing!

💯

[pine willow]

Hmmm

[sharp geyser]

Seems legit

[pine willow]

Real

[pine willow]

I wouldnt spend to much if you don't know whats your usage for it

[surreal sage]

unifi router here
a rack there
a few cases over there

[covert gale]

is there a good 100% uptime way of doing load balancing? (which is just switching between 2 urls depending on which one is online)

oh this works https://blog.cloudflare.com/update-response-headers-on-cloudflare-workers

[pearl trail]

C#, what's best to use? or it's up to me

ResponseModel responseModel = new ResponseModel
{
    ResponseType = ResponseType.Embed
};

or

ResponseModel responseModel = new();
responseModel.ResponseType = ResponseType.Embed;

rider recommends me the first one, but i'm asking other's opinion

[pale vessel]

it's just syntactic sugar. i'd use whatever is shorter

the first one is better if you're setting multiple properties since you won't need to repeat responseModel

[pearl trail]

yeah right, only useful for multiple properties. alrighty, imma stick with the 2nd one

thanks

[sharp geyser]

honestly i'd go with one or the other, even if its only for a small number of properties

then again I like consistency

[pearl trail]

[pale vessel]

technically 1st one is shorter but i genuinely hate c#'s bracing style

[pearl trail]

nah shi fr 💀

[sharp geyser]

Its all up to you at the end of the day

neither is bad

[pearl trail]

i see

[scenic kelp]

i literally always use the first one

if there's no builder pattern

[scenic kelp]

:(

newline braces are so clean

stuff gets so crowded when there's no gaps

[pearl trail]

ah, any particular reason?

[scenic kelp]

consistency

[pearl trail]

i see i see

[scenic kelp]

like whenever i see that kind of pattern i know i'm initializing an object

and it also works with other similar syntax like with

as well as anonymous objects

[sharp geyser]

told ya

consistency is key

👍

if you mix too many styles together code becomes ugly imo

[scenic kelp]

especially because C# is quite a feature rich language

there's a lot of different ways to do the same thing

[sharp geyser]

picking one and sticking to it is the best way

unless ofc one way is more performant then the other

[scenic kelp]

even like ```cs
ResponseModel a = new ResponseModel();
ResponseModel b = new();
var c = new ResponseModel();

three different ways

[sharp geyser]

var infers the type in C# right?

[scenic kelp]

your codebase would be a nightmare if you used them all

yes

same with new()

[sharp geyser]

Have not used C# in a good while

[pale vessel]

what if that was the goal all along

[scenic kelp]

don't make me break out the whole global:: bs

[sharp geyser]

thats my que to leave

[pale vessel]

can you prepend that to everything

[scenic kelp]

any fully qualified reference

so like global::System.Console.WriteLine()

[pale vessel]

can you make the most cursed c# hello world you could think of?

[scenic kelp]

gladly

[sharp geyser]

im scared

[scenic kelp]

i loaded dotnetfiddle and this is where i left off

so good start

[pale vessel]

at least it looks short

[pearl trail]

[scenic kelp]

i'm too lazy to make something truly cursed

[sharp geyser]

using global::System;
using global::System.Collections;
using global::System.Collections.Generic;
using global::System.Text;
using global::System.Reflection;

namespace CursedHelloWorld
{
    public class Program
    {
        public static void Main(string[] args)
        {
            global::System.Collections.IList hw = new List<char> { 'H', 'e', 'l', 'l', 'o', ' ', 'W', 'o', 'r', 'l', 'd' };
            global::System.Text.StringBuilder cursedString = new global::System.Text.StringBuilder();
            foreach (char c in hw)
            {
                cursedString.Append(c);
            }

            // Using reflection to get the WriteLine method
            global::System.Reflection.MethodInfo methodInfo = typeof(global::System.Console).GetMethod("WriteLine", new global::System.Type[] { typeof(global::System.String) });
            if (methodInfo != null)
            {
                methodInfo.Invoke(null, new object[] { cursedString.ToString() });
            }

            global::System.Func<string, string> extraSteps = (global::System.Func<string, string>)(str => str + "! Welcome to Cursed Programming.");
            global::System.Console.WriteLine(extraSteps(cursedString.ToString()));
        }
    }
}

[scenic kelp]

that's decent

[sharp geyser]

chatgpt be cooking

[scenic kelp]

chatgpt?

yeah figured

i'd find a way to incorporate spans and unsafe marshal calls

using global::System;
using global::System.Runtime.InteropServices;

public class Program
{
    // Importing WriteConsoleW from kernel32.dll for output
    [DllImport("kernel32.dll", SetLastError = true, CharSet = CharSet.Unicode)]
    private static extern bool WriteConsoleW(
        global::System.IntPtr hConsoleOutput,
        global::System.ReadOnlySpan<global::System.Char> lpBuffer,
        global::System.UInt32 nNumberOfCharsToWrite,
        out global::System.UInt32 lpNumberOfCharsWritten,
        global::System.IntPtr lpReserved);

    // Importing GetStdHandle from kernel32.dll to get the console handle
    [DllImport("kernel32.dll", SetLastError = true)]
    private static extern global::System.IntPtr GetStdHandle(global::System.Int32 nStdHandle);

    private const global::System.Int32 STD_OUTPUT_HANDLE = -11;

    public static void Main()
    {
        // Getting the console handle
        global::System.IntPtr consoleHandle = GetStdHandle(STD_OUTPUT_HANDLE);

        // The message to print
        global::System.ReadOnlySpan<global::System.Char> message = "Hello, World!".AsSpan();

        // Variable to store the number of characters written
        global::System.UInt32 charsWritten;

        // Unsafe block to call the WriteConsoleW function
        unsafe
        {
            // Pin the ReadOnlySpan to get a pointer to the char data
            fixed (global::System.Char* pMessage = message)
            {
                WriteConsoleW(consoleHandle, message, (global::System.UInt32)message.Length, out charsWritten, global::System.IntPtr.Zero);
            }
        }
    }
}
``` that looks promising

[sharp geyser]

using System;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using System.Runtime.InteropServices;
using System.Text;

namespace CursedHelloWorld
{
    class Program
    {
        static void Main(string[] args)
        {
            new Program().Run();
        }

        unsafe void Run()
        {
            // Create a string using a span
            Span<char> helloSpan = stackalloc char[] { 'H', 'e', 'l', 'l', 'o', ' ', 'W', 'o', 'r', 'l', 'd' };
            var cursedString = new StringBuilder();
            foreach (var c in helloSpan)
            {
                cursedString.Append(c);
            }

            // Use unsafe code to print the string
            fixed (char* p = cursedString.ToString())
            {
                IntPtr ptr = new IntPtr(p);
                Marshal.WriteIntPtr(ptr, ptr);
                Console.WriteLine(Marshal.PtrToStringUni(ptr));
            }

            // Use reflection to avoid direct method calls
            var methodInfo = typeof(Console).GetMethod("WriteLine", new Type[] { typeof(string) });
            if (methodInfo != null)
            {
                methodInfo.Invoke(null, new object[] { cursedString.ToString() });
            }

            // Additional unnecessary lambda function
            var extraSteps = (Func<string, string>)(str => str + "! Welcome to Cursed Programming.");
            Console.WriteLine(extraSteps(cursedString.ToString()));
        }
    }
}

yea chatgpt kinda weak sauce

[scenic kelp]

reflection is good

[pale vessel]

[scenic kelp]

it's weird that it originally suggested IntPtr instead of nint

fuck you chatgpt y ou are UNEDUCATED

[sharp geyser]

its chatgpt

its terrible

[pale vessel]

technically you can use WriteConsoleA too right

[scenic kelp]

no idea about windows functions

ideally i never have to touch windows api

i don't feel like feeling miserable

[pale vessel]

should be fine since hello world is ascii

[scenic kelp]

oh one is just unicode

[pearl trail]

@scenic kelpis there any way i can do

return await Context.SendResponse...

instead of

await Context.SendResponse...
return;
```? the type is `Task`

[scenic kelp]

no

[pearl trail]

😩

[scenic kelp]

just leave out the return though

unless you have more below nvm!

[pearl trail]

yeah i do have more below

[scenic kelp]

this is why cool languages use a unit type instead of a void type

switch to F# and you can probably do that!

[sharp geyser]

💀

We bringing out all the music notes with this one

[pearl trail]

lmfao

[scenic kelp]

i will now make the CLASSIC joke of calling it Db and Gb

[sharp geyser]

ngl

what even is F#

[pearl trail]

a language

[sharp geyser]

well I know that

[pearl trail]

https://dotnet.microsoft.com/en-us/languages/fsharp

[sharp geyser]

but I never looked at it

[scenic kelp]

functional ML-family language

[pearl trail]

oh god what is this 💀

;

[sharp geyser]

Felipe my beloved

[scenic kelp]

and it has discriminated unions and C# doesn't

so therefore F# is better

sorry let me put it in a language people here can appreciate

IT'S JUST LIKE RUST ENUMS GUYS 🚀

[pale vessel]

it's already good because they used oxford comma

[scenic kelp]

obviously rust actually invented everything

[scenic kelp]

i was thinking about it earlier it makes me sad to think there's probably people who think that rust actually invented like pattern matching

[sharp geyser]

// 'name' is inferred to be a string based on usage.
let printMessage name =
    printfn $"Hello there, {name}!"

// 'names' is inferred to be a sequence of strings.
let printNames names =
    for name in names do
        printMessage name

let names = [ "Ana"; "Felipe"; "Emillia" ]
printNames names

wtf is this syntax

[scenic kelp]

ML style

[sharp geyser]

internet went out for a few min there

[scenic kelp]

derives from ML -> Caml -> OCaml -> F# basically

[sharp geyser]

did it not?

[scenic kelp]

average discord developer

[sharp geyser]

what is ML

its not machine learning is it

[scenic kelp]

no

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ML_(programming_language)

[sharp geyser]

whats that supposed to mean

its function may be fun but it doesnt look fun

[scenic kelp]

that the average discord developer thinks that rust is the language that invented pattern matching

that is what that means

[sharp geyser]

lol

anyone who thinks that..are indeed special

[scenic kelp]

i have to be rust's biggest hater to counteract all the random love for it

[sharp geyser]

rust isn't that bad lets be real

[scenic kelp]

no but this is a discord bot development server

[sharp geyser]

the dev community are...special but its not the worst language

[scenic kelp]

the language is fine

i like it

[sharp geyser]

when has that ever had to do with anything going on in #development 💀

[scenic kelp]

addresses the shortcomings of C

[sharp geyser]

I cant remember the last time someone was actually struggling with a discord bot in here

its mostly database related

db, web dev

backend apis

[scenic kelp]

not necessarily development but I've definitely seen people talking about rust for their fuckin web server or whatever they're writing

[sharp geyser]

Well yea

[scenic kelp]

something something square hole circle peg

jackhammer and nail

[sharp geyser]

What's wrong with rust for backend?

[scenic kelp]

it's overkill

[sharp geyser]

I disagree

for something small sure

but something of a mass scale, its definitely useful

[scenic kelp]

do you think random discord user 35 is going to be writing a 300k loc web server that needs to handle 1m requests per second

[sharp geyser]

no...but I definitely will be needing to handle that

or at least be prepared to

[scenic kelp]

mhm

[sharp geyser]

Its not for the average discord user no

but it definitely holds merit for backend dev

[scenic kelp]

in general web servers are so stupidly optimized in any language that you'll get more than acceptable performance

[sharp geyser]

except js

[scenic kelp]

including js

[sharp geyser]

nah

[scenic kelp]

express is pretty fucking fast

[sharp geyser]

js stinky

smelly

but nah, I went with rust simply for its syntax, memory management, and its strict type system. Among a few other things but i'd just be preaching to the choir

There's still a lot I dont know about rust

like its lifetimes and I still dont understand the borrow checker that much, nor do I really understand macros but hey im learning

[scenic kelp]

i just do not understand the appeal versus a language like C# when you're just doing backend stuff

[sharp geyser]

Im confident to hold my own though in some cases

[outer crater]

**Didn't worked: **

typedef struct{
  char name[36];
  int age;
  int level;

  struct DOB {
    int day;
    int month;
    int year;
  };

} player;

**Worked: **

struct DOB {
  int day;
  int month;
  int year;
};

typedef struct{
  char name[36];
  int age;
  int level;
  struct DOB dob;
} player;

[sharp geyser]

what the fuck

[scenic kelp]

very true

[sharp geyser]

thats c++ right?

looks like c++

[scenic kelp]

C or C++ idk

[sharp geyser]

C# just wasn't the right fit for me.

I don't really know how to explain it because when it comes to talking about languages I don't know much about the language itself. I just didn't have a need for C#

rust on the other hand I plan on using for more than just backend so it worked out.

[scenic kelp]

i mean ig if you're actually going to be using rust for truly low level stuff

like actual systems programming then it's worth learning

[sharp geyser]

Indeed it is on my list of things to do

Down the road

[outer crater]

can someone explain why...

[scenic kelp]

just I'd advocate 90% of people stick with C# or a JVM lang or smth

they're the perfect balance in my mind of dev speed and maintainability vs performance

C# can genuinely be unfathomably fast

[sharp geyser]

honestly a valid point

I just have no need for C# rn

[scenic kelp]

the code quickly descends into madness but it can be very very optimized

[sharp geyser]

if I focus on too many things at once i'll never get anything done

[scenic kelp]

a lot of the recent language versions have focused on that with Span and stuff etc

[harsh nova]

I too love Microsoft Java

[sharp geyser]

who are you

random

fish

[scenic kelp]

java if it were good

[harsh nova]

True

C# is lovely

[scenic kelp]

add discriminated unions and i will never use another language ever i swear

not even css

[sharp geyser]

pretty sure you cant do a struct inside a struct like that

[harsh nova]

Can write pretty nice stuff with the blazor web framework as well or whatever it is called

[sharp geyser]

I might be wrong but I remmeber not being able to

[outer crater]

we can ;-;

[harsh nova]

Think it compiles to webml

[scenic kelp]

issue with blazor is it uses wasm to basically load a .net runtime

so it has a big initial load

[harsh nova]

wasm yea

[scenic kelp]

I'll stick to svelte for web stuff BUT OTHER THAN THAT I SWEAR

[sharp geyser]

vled said "oh no blazor" when I told him i was trying out c#

💀

Whats wrong with blazor might I ask

[harsh nova]

It's nice to write tho

[scenic kelp]

literally just the big load

imo

[harsh nova]

Perhaps not the fastest but it feels nice

[scenic kelp]

but they are working on native AOT compilation so maybe fingers crossed

[sharp geyser]

what do you use C# for farmer fish

dont say just web dev

💀

[harsh nova]

School, a discord bot, and some other stuff

[sharp geyser]

is threadwatcher made in c#

[harsh nova]

Nah, ts

[sharp geyser]

oh no wonder its bad

[scenic kelp]

TS is honestly pretty cool but it also inherently has all of JS's bullshit

[harsh nova]

Me and the dev of needle have joked about rewriting our bots in c# and for every time we joke about it, it feels less than a joke and more like a plan

[sharp geyser]

just do it at this point

idk who needle is

but he sounds like a nice guy

[scenic kelp]

i have always said that a language that has a very similar type system but not with a JS target would be pretty cool

[sharp geyser]

or girl

or them/they xem/xer idfk anymore

[harsh nova]

"Just do it" requires many hours of work I'm just not ready to handle rn

[sharp geyser]

bah quitter talk

[scenic kelp]

very kind theydy or thentlethem

[sharp geyser]

if you dont take risks there is no reward

[sharp geyser]

I hate that I understood this

[harsh nova]

Got a lot of uni work before I start working full time June and July

[scenic kelp]

my friend said it during a speech one time and now it's burned into my brain

ladies and gentlemen, theydies and thentlethems

[sharp geyser]

I dislike you

for burning it into my brain

[scenic kelp]

tee hee

anyways im going to sleep i want to go on a bike ride tomorrow around noon

[sharp geyser]

I need to learn more about kubernetes

[scenic kelp]

rip my 8h of sleep plan

[sharp geyser]

kubernetes is smth I need to find out more info on

[harsh nova]

My redneck friend did a massive Isak move during rethorics class when we were supposed to write a thanks to the nation speech after being elected as PM. His speech included "lgtb and normals"

[sharp geyser]

I know its like docker on steroids

then again idfk a damn thing about docker either

[sharp geyser]

fucking normies amiright

[pearl trail]

<3

[radiant kraken]

what

[civic scroll]

the ide is trolling you

[pearl trail]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-get-trolled-we-do-a-little-trolling-gif-20266975

[civic scroll]

i'm gaming

[lyric mountain]

it's because of the !

[civic scroll]

hi kuu

[lyric mountain]

tho vscode did in fact enter a loop there

hi sa-yun

[pearl trail]

whoa it is

guess it's my skill issue 😔

[lyric mountain]

nah, it's indeed a valud thing to do if (!list.Any(...))

[pearl trail]

floating keyboard 💀

[pearl trail]

ah

[lyric mountain]

but vscode is stupid, and doesn't notice that c# doesn't have if (list.None(...))

so it suggests u to use All with !=

but it isn't the same as Any will stop iteration if it finds any truey value

[civic scroll]

it's jetbrains rider

[lyric mountain]

while All will go till the end

[civic scroll]

[lyric mountain]

that's rider?

[civic scroll]

guess the language

[civic scroll]

i can tell

[lyric mountain]

then idk how tf that happened

[lyric mountain]

rust?

[civic scroll]

its cousin

[lyric mountain]

cpp?

[civic scroll]

no

rust but less serious

so less serious that you can still run if it fails to compile

[lyric mountain]

idk, js/ts?

[civic scroll]

yes

the ! tripped you right

[lyric mountain]

perhaps, since rust has weird exclamation marks in odd places

[civic scroll]

i abused the non-null assertion !

[lyric mountain]

come to groovy instead

you'll love it

[civic scroll]

i'm in groovy

i use janusgraph shell

but idk groovy

sob

[lyric mountain]

it's easy to learn

https://tenor.com/view/teach-yoda-star-wars-master-teach-you-will-gif-17251592

[surreal sage]

killhumans!()

i like how chatgpt now basically forces you 4o and is significantly slower than 3.5

i like how i have over 2,000 conversations on it

holy fuck i havent looked at the nodejs site since like v18 and holy moly

[pearl trail]

what does that ! do after a function 💀

[surreal sage]

p sure thats how you call a function

[pearl trail]

ig im not that dumb

[surreal sage]

rust being rusty

[wheat mesa]

It’s not rust

[surreal sage]

rfuck

[civic scroll]

! asserts that the expression before it does not result in a null value

[wheat mesa]

It looks exactly like rust but it’s not

[surreal sage]

fuck

[civic scroll]

it's a non-null assertion operator

[pearl trail]

whoa, new thing

i see i see

[wheat mesa]

You can also tell it’s not rust because it’s a function declaration without the fn keyword

(And the ?)

[civic scroll]

eg.

sayuri: Nullable<Sayuri>

sayuri.silly(); // Error: 'sayuri' is possibly 'null'.

sayuri!.silly(); // ok

[pearl trail]

ahh interesting

[surreal sage]

what other ones r there again

ofc the question mark

[civic scroll]

@pearl trail note: the runtime behavior is the same (an error would be thrown if the value ends up being nullish at call site)

[pearl trail]

oh so it's just for ts/intellisense/typings(?) or whatever it called?

[civic scroll]

question mark marks one target as optional (properties / parameters)

[civic scroll]

just ts (compiler, intellisense, etc.)

[pearl trail]

i see, that's expected

[surreal sage]

objectthatmighthaveafunction.thepossiblefunction?()

objectthatmightbenullwithafunction?.functionwow()

does the ! even do anything besides shutting up linters?

[civic scroll]

this would automatically append undefined to its possible types

[pearl trail]

nope, from what sayu said

[civic scroll]

not shutting up, rather to reassure it that it's not null at the point of call

[pearl trail]

the second one

[surreal sage]

basically shutting up..

[civic scroll]

the compiler can't cover everything

after all it's static

[pearl trail]

thepossiblefunction?() this exists?

[civic scroll]

runtime is more dynamic than that

[civic scroll]

syntax error

if you want to optionally call it, use nullish chain

[pearl trail]

ah yeah

[civic scroll]

maybeNull?.();

[pearl trail]

i thought i missed something in js/ts

[pearl trail]

yeah

[civic scroll]

it's rather the first one, i believe

if the object ends up being null, the rest of the chain stops calling

[pearl trail]

sussything?.amogus ?? impostor my beloved

[civic scroll]

though if the method itself is nullable

then you will need an assertion at the end

[civic scroll]

first call is useless

[surreal sage]

calls when exists no?

[civic scroll]

you already typed that the method certainly exists

[surreal sage]

the question mark

[civic scroll]

so ts wouldn't do otherwise when you remove

ag

i was blind, my apologies

[surreal sage]

cant do anything anymre..

[civic scroll]

it's used more common than you think

[civic scroll]

oh you use real name for pc?

[surreal sage]

it was like that

[civic scroll]

ah

[surreal sage]

i did make a syslink and everytihng

[pearl trail]

yeah i use this in like every projects i have

[surreal sage]

but it still shows up as real name

[civic scroll]

skill issue

[surreal sage]

die

[civic scroll]

pro tip: use typescript playground

don't have to run

[surreal sage]

thats web based

i dont like that

get real

[civic scroll]

mfw tsc compiles to js

[surreal sage]

LINTING

IT TYPE CHECKS

[civic scroll]

i use any

get real

[surreal sage]

unknown better

[civic scroll]

unknown throws type errors

[pearl trail]

omw installing discord.js and run my bot to get free hosting here /s https://www.typescriptlang.org/play

[surreal sage]

any throws type errors

the type error battle

[civic scroll]

nah

[surreal sage]

yes

[civic scroll]

any accepts any type

[surreal sage]

actually

[civic scroll]

if it runs

[civic scroll]

any type can be assign to any

and so is any, to any other type

[surreal sage]

dude i could swear eslint said fuck you to any

[civic scroll]

that's eslint

not tsc

though you can disable it

[surreal sage]

eslint built diff

[civic scroll]

typescript would do the same

if you enable strict checks

[surreal sage]

tsc like

only works 10% of the time

just using esbuild/tsup because that's the only thing that works 😭

[harsh nova]

Average I don't lint my code anarchist

[civic scroll]

it works all the time

[surreal sage]

does your code look like

function Get_something ()
{

}```

[pearl trail]

even you do, the lint won't be able to handle your anarchist code

[harsh nova]

How did you get a code snippet from me??? That's private

[surreal sage]

gotta add the poorly capitalized func name

[pearl trail]

nah, before is fine

[surreal sage]

yeah but this is worse

[pearl trail]

add _

increase 50% performance /s

[harsh nova]

Beer coding got me naming variables "beer" "fuckingDoTheTgint" but when I wake up and check the code it runs and is immaculate spare for the names

[civic scroll]

max performance

[surreal sage]

erm wel realistkly speakingdfa
an ekstra underscwore adds 1 extra byte

[civic scroll]

at that point might as well write raw machine code

saves you 2 cycles

[surreal sage]

optimization at its finest

[pearl trail]

nah, this is the real max performance (i shouldn't be proud of this 😭 )

[lament rock]

remove all whitespace

[surreal sage]

dude

[pearl trail]

[surreal sage]

dude

[lament rock]

tsup is pretty good for minifying though stuff like class names are lost so constructor.name calls will be borked

[civic scroll]

SOH?

[civic scroll]

that's C#

[pearl trail]

idk that thing 💀

[civic scroll]

typical visual studio formatting

[surreal sage]

unvisual studio format it

[pearl trail]

rider™️

[civic scroll]

jetbrain is hired by microsoft

[surreal sage]

i wanna try jetbrains but im poor.

[pearl trail]

oh really?

[lament rock]

OTBS isn't really used in C#

[civic scroll]

if you have student email you can sign up

[surreal sage]

"free for students" my school doesnt even have a .edu tld

[pearl trail]

nah

you don't need .edu

wait, does .sch.id count?

[civic scroll]

don't hoard ides 😔

i have regretted

[pearl trail]

android studio my beloved

love em

[surreal sage]

android studio just for the vm

[pearl trail]

fair

[civic scroll]

i use android studio for actual development

[surreal sage]

overrated

[civic scroll]

it got nicer flutter integration

i'd take it

[surreal sage]

bloater integration

idk

[civic scroll]

nah

it's pretty good for what they did

[civic scroll]

AQUA

[pearl trail]

AQUA indeed

[civic scroll]

[pearl trail]

maybe try their fleet app

[surreal sage]

feet app

[pearl trail]

looks great ig?

[civic scroll]

nah

[pearl trail]

💀

[civic scroll]

i would stay in vscode

i don't have a remote codespace anyways

[pearl trail]

hmhm

[surreal sage]

oh my god im gonna complain about how extensions run on the server and not on the client again

[civic scroll]

i need better app names

[surreal sage]

like dude ofc my linting takes 30 seconds after a single change because its an rpi

[pearl trail]

dying grail 💀

there's no rider so it's fine

[civic scroll]

i found the latest one

[mental glen]

https://upload-systems.is-a.fail/6AKCDvcxz.png

how can I make the text stay center but move according to how much text is there?
this is what I got rn: https://pastebin.com/zyaijN5M

[pearl trail]

oh god

[civic scroll]

no rider :)

[surreal sage]

the hardest thing to do ever

i don even know after years on css

[mental glen]

[civic scroll]

you calculate the text's bounding box

then do math

[surreal sage]

jsless

[pearl trail]

isn't that already centered?

[civic scroll]

that's a discord bot embed

[mental glen]

yea but when i add more text its not center

[mental glen]

its my website lol

[civic scroll]

a dynamic image, generated by canvas

[civic scroll]

website?

[mental glen]

yes lol

                    <div class="relative">
                        <DiscordEmbed avatarUrl="/logo.png" username="Green Frog" title="Pepe Sign" imageUrl="/blanksign.png" />
                        <p class="h-[200px] w-[200px] absolute top-24 left-20 text-2xl font-medium text-wrap">I'm in {data.approximate_guild_count} guilds!</p>
                    </div>

[civic scroll]

flex / gridbox

[pearl trail]

what's the actual result from that code? 💀

[civic scroll]

there you go

the fixed dimensions

[pearl trail]

the pepe, the text, the clock, or with the gradient

[civic scroll]

why absolute

wtf

why

[mental glen]

[surreal sage]

absolute only valid as child

[civic scroll]

that's why it's offcentered

also given that fixed box dimensions

how would it fare larger amount of text

[mental glen]

welp

[mental glen]

wym? lol

[pearl trail]

it's hard for me to get which one is the relative div, and the discord embed. is blue box the relative div?

the screenshot looks cropped

[pearl trail]

ah yes

[mental glen]

https://upload-systems.is-a.fail/6AKZfed3y.png

im dumb

lol

finally works

ty lol. i had to use flex

lolololo

[covert gale]

ok so planning time

next js frontend

rust backend

and like

hosted on vercel?

idk what to do for hosting ngl

i could self host but i need to setup auto deploying then

[pearl trail]

replit /s

[eternal osprey]

hey guys

does anyone have an overview of the resource usage of linear regression models vs other models

[frosty gale]

machine learning detected

i mean speaking on linear it should use substantially less resources than other models

[eternal osprey]

yeah i know but i must write a research paper

[frosty gale]

since you dont really have many layers or use any complicated activation functions

[eternal osprey]

so i don't think i can just say that out of the blue lmao

[frosty gale]

its just x = x + y etc

[eternal osprey]

i know

[frosty gale]

as opposed to x = tanh(whatever)

[eternal osprey]

but i need some black on white hard proof to discuss this matter in my paper

though google scholar has like 0 fucking papers about the resourse usage.

[frosty gale]

make your own proof then

[eternal osprey]

whenver i try to search it i get HOW we can do so, but it never talks about performace.

[frosty gale]

setup 2 models one linear and one non linear with complex layers

and measure it

[eternal osprey]

it's a literature review. I must only talk about other ppl's work.

[frosty gale]

thats kinda shit then

[eternal osprey]

this is my actual experiment yeh, but i now need to come up with some charts etc

[surreal sage]

gotta love having to contact ISPs just to see which one is capable of delivering an ip subnet

[wheat mesa]

Might be useful to figure out the algorithmic complexity then?

[frosty gale]

still comes back to having to find existing research that backs this up

[surreal sage]

*** System restart required ***

[civic scroll]

do it then

[radiant kraken]

yes

you're just defining the struct inside a struct

not assigning it to anything

[sharp geyser]

I told you

you can't define a struct inside a struct like that,

you gotta give it a var/prop name

[radiant kraken]

you got it

[frosty gale]

blud thinks the struct will name itself 💀

[surreal sage]

just name em var1 and var2 and etc

[lament rock]

whats after etc?

ftc?

all the way up to utc?

[eternal osprey]

Hey I am trying to create my own file size reducer algo. What I was thinking about is taking the first n bits that fit into a single integer if every bit would be activated. Then transforming it into an integer that represents that bitstring.

Would this work?

[frosty gale]

as ive already mentioned you cant really deal with bits in a compression algorithm

its counter productive youll end up increasing the file size

not to mention the complexity that introduces if you want it to be close to effective

memory and disk doesn't use bits on the interface layer it uses bytes which is the minimum unit you should be targeting

you can't just store 5 bits for example you'd have to store it as a byte which brings it up to 8 bits so you waste 3 bits

[eternal osprey]

hmm i see

what would be an effective way then?

[hidden gorge]

should i remove this command?

[spark flint]

yes

idk why thats a command

[hidden gorge]

its a fail safe to shutdown the api incase of an outage

[spark flint]

why not just open your hosting panel and close it there 👍

just seems bad to have on a bot

[hidden gorge]

everything is on one server...

[spark flint]

[pine willow]

What's the point of a "shutdown" if the API is already offline?

[spark flint]

^

[urban delta]

okay so i know little about Lark language:
#general message

[scenic kelp]

no idea what lark is

[urban delta]

a library that compiles BNF grammars

[scenic kelp]

oh

[urban delta]

and have a machinization that is really different from original Lark

actually

original python

so i don't know how i process it to make a function that respond only once

using lark

[scenic kelp]

shouldn't depend on lark much for that I'd imagine, you can look for duplicates while you're visiting your nodes

[urban delta]

if gives more it erroes

[urban delta]

i see, how do i do it?

[scenic kelp]

depends on how your code is set up can't really help with the specifics

[urban delta]

i have no idea how i can explain about it

but am i allowed to post my code?

[scenic kelp]

yeah

[urban delta]

so you can see it?

oh perfect

[scenic kelp]

out of curiosity why are you using a parsing library for such a trivial parser

[urban delta]

https://hastebin.com/share/igasigexaj.ruby

[scenic kelp]

or is there more to it

[urban delta]

there is more

i made it for macro commands

that allows you to create custom commands

+> for personal commands or -> for server commands

[scenic kelp]

ah

do you have a function for handling formater yet?

basically you would just check for duplicates in there

[urban delta]

nope, not yet

cus i was worried about the repeating thing

first

cus i don't wanna it repeat the responses of black intalic and etc

[scenic kelp]

yeah it's similar to like method modifiers in C# or Java for example

you don't want public private static static

[urban delta]

i see, can i see an example

so i can copy?

[scenic kelp]

example won't help much cause it's basically what you've got but

<method modifiers> ::= <method modifier> | <method modifiers> <method modifier>

<method modifier> ::= public | protected | private | static | abstract | final | synchronized | native```

they obviously handle duplicates when visiting the tree

[urban delta]

like this?

[scenic kelp]

your grammar was fine before

both will parse identically

[urban delta]

oh, so both do the same

[scenic kelp]

p much

[neon leaf]

🔥

[covert gale]

real

i approve of this

[sharp geyser]

fake

wtf is mcvcli

[covert gale]

https://github.com/alvesvaren/mccli

seems like this?

some fork ig

[pine willow]

rookie

[covert gale]

you'd be surprised of mc tooling

https://github.com/ParadigmMC/mcman

[pine willow]

i use 2000% cpu

[covert gale]

mc has single handily taken java into the future

without mc stuff like https://vineflower.org/ wouldn't have been born

[sharp geyser]

ima be real

mc didnt make java better

[pine willow]

how many cores is that?

[scenic kelp]

people say the same shit about unity and C# meanwhile unity is like 4 C# versions behind all the time 😭

[sharp geyser]

unity has fallen into irrelevancy

[scenic kelp]

nope it's very much still relevant

[sharp geyser]

its fallen out of favor in the game dev community

[wheat mesa]

A true gamblers algorithm would be partially sorting it then saying “just one more…” and doing another bogo sort

[scenic kelp]

killing other processes so you can take their resources to bogosort more

[urban delta]

how do i compare if a user if friend with a user?

like, i'm planning to make an input that receives a friend as input by pings

[frosty gale]

if you mean whether a user is friends with someone else on discord bots cant see that

only the users can

[deft wolf]

You could theoretically create your own "friends" system

[frosty gale]

i cant think of a better way of implementing a friend/relationship system other than having a table that stores 2 ids which are the 2 users that have said relationship

but when doing db lookups you need to do "if id1 is person or if id2 is person"

[surreal sage]

visual studio code explorer on right side of window users rise up

[frosty gale]

youre on your own

[urban delta]

well, i realize that copying code from friend is impractical

well, at least there is the show code thing

that i created

so friends can copy it

that for macro

[eternal osprey]

hey guys i am bored

who can recommend me a cool java project?

[urban delta]

maybe Ai GMs for Roleplay servers (thought that would be complicated cus it's not python)

[surreal sage]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/858863596124373002/919233768135479326/20211211_212558.gif

[eternal osprey]

java is great for ai as well, but ehh what are roleplay servers?

and what's a gm

[surreal sage]

general motors

rah

🦅

[eternal osprey]

bro what the fuck is this suggestion

[urban delta]

servers where you interact with your created characters

using tupperbox

and GM is game master

like, how DnD players have Game master for their story

[eternal osprey]

somethign less specific is appreciated guys
And i prefer to move away from games. just any project in general but i cannot come up with something fun tbf

[urban delta]

okay so, is this normal?

[quartz kindle]

apparently image is not a parameter

did you check the docs for the library you're using?

[naive fiber]

im having this error but i dont know how to fix it

it says empty message even tho im sending the poll

[urban delta]

okay so this is strange:

i'm getting this error

but it wasn't suppose to be like that

cus i created a new rule in my grammar and it didn't identified

why?

[sharp geyser]

description is empty most likely

console.log it

[naive fiber]

its logging the description

[quartz kindle]

is your discord.js updated?

only the lastest version 14.15 supports polls

[naive fiber]

oh tysm man! i was at 14.14💀

[urban delta]

i can't even debug it

really complicated

i need to debug

[quartz kindle]

never seen that before, also googling that error returns 0 results

[urban delta]

that's why lark is not easy

[quartz kindle]

ah idk anything about lark

[urban delta]

there was friends mocking me for telling them that lark is difficult by they don't hear it, and just say "lol lark is easy cuz it's programmed 100% in python, and python is ez"

[naive fiber]

does anybody know why it takes so long to update from 14.14 to latest

[quartz kindle]

npm is just slow

and djs is bloated huge

[sharp geyser]

almost wish there was a better option

[quartz kindle]

almost

:^)

[naive fiber]

💀

[pine willow]

rookie

[lament rock]

It's almost like discord.js kinda sucks!

[pine willow]

it does

[sharp geyser]

use oceanic

its 10x better

[lament rock]

I cant tell if you're joking