development

[exotic hull]

So which one should I install

[lyric mountain]

but it should be under Help -> Check for updates

[lyric mountain]

doesn't matter much

if u have educational version then keep it, shouldn't matter

[exotic hull]

Which one should i select

[lyric mountain]

enable "Add open folder as project", for convenience

the rest doesn't matter

oh wait, judging by the icon u downloaded the ultimate version

[exotic hull]

😭

[lyric mountain]

u need a license to use ultimate, else it's a 30-day trial

use community edition

[exotic hull]

Okay

Downloding

Doesn't it work on vscode?

[lyric mountain]

vscode is a code editor, intellij is an ide (editor with integrated dev tools)

[exotic hull]

Yeah ikik but will i be only using intellij

[lyric mountain]

yes

[exotic hull]

Ok

[lyric mountain]

did you install git already?

[exotic hull]

Yeah i did

I did next next and set it up

[exotic hull]

Still same thing

[lyric mountain]

press install

that's just to select where you want to put intellij on the start menu

[exotic hull]

okok

i did

now?

[lyric mountain]

now launch it

[exotic hull]

done

[lyric mountain]

it'll prompt you to customize some things, chose your flavor

[exotic hull]

new project

umm nothing

[lyric mountain]

click new project

select empty project

type a name for your project

then click create

oh and tick "Create Git repository"

[exotic hull]

add sample code?

[lyric mountain]

no

wait ur in the wrong menu

it's "Empty project"

not "New project"

new project will create a managed project, which is too much for you to deal with for now

[exotic hull]

:)

[lyric mountain]

hmm, ur missing a folder there somehow

[exotic hull]

what should i do

[lyric mountain]

well no matter, right click on the empty space below scratches and consoles

hm wait, no, it wont show an option

odd, yours dont have the project folder above External Libraries

[exotic hull]

should i re install?

[lyric mountain]

no

go to your user folder, there should be a folder called IdeaProjects

[exotic hull]

yeah

empty

[lyric mountain]

close intellij first, go inside your project folder

right click, then press Open as project or smth

[exotic hull]

it has main folder now

[lyric mountain]

ok, good

[exotic hull]

workspace.xml

?

[lyric mountain]

no, not inside .idea folder

call the new folder "src"

dont touch the .idea folder, that's where project settings are stored

[exotic hull]

ok

[lyric mountain]

inside src create a folder called java

[exotic hull]

why isnt it showing empty project

[exotic hull]

sorry

what should i name it

[lyric mountain]

anything u want

[exotic hull]

i created src

[lyric mountain]

show how you current project looks like

[exotic hull]

re-installing worked

[lyric mountain]

ok, right click it and create a new folder called main

[lyric mountain]

dont ask again and add

[exotic hull]

done

[lyric mountain]

inside that folder, create yet another folder called java

so it'll look like src/main/java

[exotic hull]

i created main file

i didnt get option to add folder

[lyric mountain]

you created a file then, delete it

[exotic hull]

done

[lyric mountain]

actually, tbh we can ignore that specific structure

you have only the src folder right?

[exotic hull]

yeah

[lyric mountain]

right click on it and select "Mark Directory As"

then select sources root

[exotic hull]

done

[lyric mountain]

now everything inside that folder will be treated as actual code

right click on it, click new and create a new package

now, do you already have a github account?

[exotic hull]

done

[exotic hull]

yeah

[lyric mountain]

the naming is fairly important

[exotic hull]

main

ok?

[lyric mountain]

delete it, let's use the proper naming standard

[exotic hull]

ok

[lyric mountain]

it should be called com.github.username

replace username with your github account display name

[exotic hull]

inside src?

[lyric mountain]

yes

[exotic hull]

done now?

[lyric mountain]

now we start creating the actual code files

[exotic hull]

okay

[lyric mountain]

right click on the newly created folder and create a java class

[exotic hull]

java class?

[lyric mountain]

you can call it whatever, naming stardard is TitleCase

[exotic hull]

name?

[lyric mountain]

yes

call it Main for example

or Application

[exotic hull]

main file inside that github folder?

[lyric mountain]

no

oh wait, yes

[lyric mountain]

yes

titlecase names, remember this

[exotic hull]

wdym?

[lyric mountain]

Main, not main

[exotic hull]

ohhhh

fixed

[lyric mountain]

the standard naming rule in java (and javascript) are

• TitleCase classes
• camelCase methods and variables
• SCREAMING_SNAKE for constants and enums

[exotic hull]

okay

noted

[lyric mountain]

did you rename the class or created another?

[exotic hull]

deleted and created another

[lyric mountain]

ok

now lets make it write something for the sake of starting

lemme first explain the class structure

[exotic hull]

ok

[lyric mountain]

package is where in the tree your class is located, you shouldn't need to worry abt this on intellij or any decent editor, but it's a thing to know

[exotic hull]

ok

[lyric mountain]

public means the class is visible outside that file, there are also private which is the opposite

if you dont put either, it'll be a package-private class, only visible to classes in the same folder

class means it's a class

Main is the name of it

then inside { } is where your implementation (the code) will be

you must ALWAYS close braces

intellij will warn you if you forget to do it and the code wont run until you fix it

[exotic hull]

similar to c++ till now

[lyric mountain]

oh you already know c++, good

that'll skip the introduction then

the syntax will be 99% similar to c++

[exotic hull]

ive studied python in 1st sem and im studying c++ now in 2nd sem

so ik bit basic stuff

[lyric mountain]

ok inside the class, write ```java
public static void main(String[] args) {

}
``` or if you're a civilized 21st century developer that doesn't want to just rant about java, type psvm and press enter

this will be the entry point, similar to c++

inside it, let's write something to console

System.out.println("Hello world!");
``` or just `sout` -> enter

[exotic hull]

psvm will do what?

[lyric mountain]

yes

psvm is the shortcut to add the entrypoint in intellij

some other editors might have it different

[exotic hull]

so itll write public void...

[lyric mountain]

yes

when the popup appear, if you press Ctrl + Q it'll show you a description of it

[exotic hull]

M should be captial or small?

[lyric mountain]

small, exactly as psvm generated it

methods are camelCase in java, like in c++

in general use the same naming rules as you learned in c++, they'll be pretty much equal

[exotic hull]

ok

[exotic hull]

methods like?

[lyric mountain]

ah right, methods are what you call functions

we call it method when it's part of a class

[exotic hull]

you said that class thing so M should be capital there?

[lyric mountain]

only classes are TitleCase

methods are camelCase

note the lowercase initial

[exotic hull]

main should be TitleCase or camelCase

[lyric mountain]

camel

[exotic hull]

ok

[lyric mountain]

click the green arrow on the left

this should run the code

[exotic hull]

where

[lyric mountain]

and hello world will appear on the embedded console below

[wheat mesa]

Java uses camelCase for almost everything except class/enum names and enum members

[wheat mesa]

(Another other notable exceptions)

[lyric mountain]

ah, click on Setup JDK

[wheat mesa]

You also don’t have a main class going

[wheat mesa]

Although they might’ve gotten rid of the need for that in more recent JDKs

[lyric mountain]

yes, select that

[exotic hull]

misconfigured

[lyric mountain]

also write the Main class as waffle said, this is a very recent change that's not to be relied upon for now

[lyric mountain]

hm

then click download jdk

[wheat mesa]

Go to download JDK then and select openjdk

[lyric mountain]

get version 21

[exotic hull]

not 22?

[wheat mesa]

Yeah 21 is LTS I think right

[lyric mountain]

22 is too recent, and not LTS

[exotic hull]

like?

[wheat mesa]

Either that or 20 is LTS something like that

[lyric mountain]

you'll get a lot of nice features yes, but you rarely will use them in a realistic setting

[lyric mountain]

all class files must have a class declaration

I gtg for a while now, I'll leave it to waffle for a bit

[vivid fulcrum]

my team was tasked with getting rid of tech debt which meant migrating from JDK8 to JDK21, god damn is JDK21 a pleasure to work with

[lyric mountain]

https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java I recommend following this course btw

[vivid fulcrum]

still no elvis operator though :(

[lyric mountain]

codecademy has a ton of free courses for java, and that one explains it pretty well for a complete beginner

[radiant kraken]

wtf is elvis operator

[lyric mountain]

?:

see the wig

[radiant kraken]

what is that for

[vivid fulcrum]

shorthand for a null ternary

[lyric mountain]

var abc = someNullable ?: otherwise

[wheat mesa]

Even just changing if (a instanceof Type) { Type newA = (Type)a; } to if(a instanceof Type newA) is a blessing

[radiant kraken]

so its like ?? or ||

[lyric mountain]

equivalent to ?? yes

[radiant kraken]

why not just use ??

[wheat mesa]

Java is quirky like that

[vivid fulcrum]

does not exist in java

[wheat mesa]

They also use -> for lambdas instead of the usual =>

[exotic hull]

it ran

[wheat mesa]

Just design decisions

Although nothing can be worse than C++ lambda syntax even though python is a close 2nd

[exotic hull]

gtg dinner

[radiant kraken]

i mean, Rust uses |arg| -> ReturnType { body }

[wheat mesa]

Yes but that makes sense and isn’t convoluted like C++’s

[radiant kraken]

me when [&](const int &&thing, const *int *otherthing) -> std::unique_ptr<std::optional<uint69_t>> {}

[wheat mesa]

Yeah that’s a certified C++ moment

[radiant kraken]

chad C for not having lambdas

just throw in function pointers

[lyric mountain]

Back, but currently taking lunch

And yay, my IJ bug report was moved from backlog to in development

[lyric mountain]

Wait till you find out interpolated strings are in incubation phase

Also switches now work with pattern matching, like the instanceof thing waffle mentioned

[surreal sage]

should i learn java instead of rust chat

rust bein speed, right?

[radiant kraken]

yes

if you're going for something compiled while also not willing to sacrifice your sanity, go for Rust

[surreal sage]

looking at rust makes my sanity disappear already

[lyric mountain]

ok, back

[eternal osprey]

hey guys

(x+1) + 5 / (x+1), in such a formula, do we basically remove the whole (x+1), or do we substitue it by 1?
so do we either get 6/1 or just 5 as we removed the x+1?

Math in CS problems

[lyric mountain]

well, in that specific formula you're dividing 5 by x+1

and no, you cant remove even if u were dividing the whole thing

you'd only be able to if it was ((x+1) * 5) / (x+1)

which would be 5

as for why it works this way, it's because you're dividing both sides by (x+1), so it becomes ((x+1) / (x+1) * 5) / ((x+1) / (x+1))

which becomes then (1 * 5) / 1

[eternal osprey]

i meant this

[eternal osprey]

huhh really?

[lyric mountain]

yes, see my explanation above

division counteracts multiplication

addition counteracts subtraction

and only if they are in the same scope

[eternal osprey]

owh goddayum i see

so if it were to be:

(1+5) * 5 / (1+5) you can remove it

but not if it's + or -

[lyric mountain]

when writing formulas, use parentheses to specify order of operation

you wrote it again as dividing the 5 alone

[deft wolf]

Interesting

[neon leaf]

dam im stupid

I just realized I can just use my openapi docs to generate my sdks

[spark flint]

It’s new from today

Click it, it shows a message now

[deft wolf]

Yea, I had to reset Discord and it suddenly changed

[sharp geyser]

rust is the goat

Also, comparing rust and java is not a fair comparison either way

Both do their own things and one is good at one thing then the other

[real rose]

would love to learn rust when i get time

people raving about it daily in here

[sharp geyser]

I always advise against it unless its just for fun

Going into rust learning it to try and use it productively without knowing why or for what you want to use it is a bad idea

same goes for a lot of languages

[sharp geyser]

people rave about it, but never ask for help

😭

rust users silently suffer or ask in the rust discord

I want to find more rust programmers I can exploit hire

:)

It is

I need more rust programmers tbh

😭

[real rose]

[lyric mountain]

and groovy

[sharp geyser]

again comparing java and rust is stupid

😭

[real rose]

i used a lot of groovy in my internship

unfortunately

[sharp geyser]

lol

[lyric mountain]

groovy is awesome, especially to use as dynamic scripting

tho now I'm genuinely interested, what did you find bad about groovy?

with intellij?

weird, was it long ago?

cuz jetbrains support for groovy is pretty fleshed out

[real rose]

the ide support is awful

granted I used vsc moreso

but still

[lyric mountain]

perhaps what you're talking about is the lack of references in build.gradle, which is because there's indeed no source at your end so it can't lookup methods or variables

I used groovy for actual codebase, felt as integrated as java on intellij

also use it for my cards' script, which I code from within database manager on ij

[tawny lava]

reqwest

[faint coral]

Hello. I have a problem. So I currently have “reaction roles” assign a “member” role to new users when they react to roles, I have “mee6” add a verified role to that user once they have clicked the verification button.. users now have full access to the discord but also have both roles attached. Ideally once they have verified and become a verified member, I need the “member” role to be removed.. how do I best approach this without manually editing each members roles..

My second query.. I notice some discords have “events” show at the top of the discord when an event is live.. is there a bot that will do something similar but show active bounties?

[lyric mountain]

I think it'd be better to ask on those specific bots' support server instead

/\/$/ replace with empty string

[faint coral]

Unable to find discord links for them. I’ll keep trying. Thanks for your reply.

[lyric mountain]

for mee6 it's discord.gg/mee6

for reaction roles idk

I could never do rust, the syntax causes me physical pain

[sharp geyser]

What in the fuck

are you doing

😭

how do you use this

show me an example

I don't see the issue you are facing for this to have the need to make this

[lyric mountain]

appending endpoint likely

it might get double slashes if the base url has it

[sharp geyser]

rocket handles this

it won't allow double slashses

yea, i've tested the same thing you are talking about and the request works fine for me

Just to prove it

even if your post or get has a slash at the beginning

it ignores it since there is already one at the top level

I don't see why it would

Unless the url is malformed

and you aren't pointing to the right endpoint

no

wait

yea no

rocket ignores any double slashes

Still a 200

Now would I intentionally do double slashes? no

If you can prevent it do so

cause it could theorectically cause issues depending on how your endpoints are setup

[eternal osprey]

Hey guys, each MAC address is unique right? I came up with an idea but not sure if it's smart to do. I wante to create an encryption and decryption system that uses the mac address of the host to decrypt and encrypt

but to be fair, in protocol calls like ARP etc, the mac address is shared across the whle communication channel so it might also just be really stupid

i am bored so i tried to come up with some cool stuuf

[pale vessel]

nope

there's a crate for that but i recommend against it

it just feels unnecessary imo

[sharp geyser]

bro got banned from Mee6

[lyric mountain]

the hell did u do?

[deft wolf]

What war crimes do you have to do to get banned from the support server?

[lyric mountain]

ayo even u has experienced role

[warm surge]

give me sec

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1002959724049858671/1115699942644781176/IMG_0247.png?ex=6631300b&is=661ebb0b&hm=28d850fa44b5fba1d850ad22116167c0909dd193822c3d7bd733e7079aee038a&

that was a year ago

womp womp

[deft wolf]

Yes, we even had a short discussion about this yesterday

[spark flint]

I’m banned because I mocked NFTs

[warm surge]

fucken nfts

[pale vessel]

why would you even talk there though

apart from support

[spark flint]

I don’t

Didn’t

It was in their nft server

The bans link between all servers of theirs

[pale vessel]

they have a separate server for that?

[spark flint]

This was 2021 tho

At the time yeah

[warm surge]

message link?

[spark flint]

discord.gg/mee6nft

[warm surge]

lmao

haha

@spark flint i got you

[sharp geyser]

Probably said Mee6 sucked

[warm surge]

https://discord.com/invite/FRszKjMJeJ

that

[spark flint]

Yes it got renamed

[warm surge]

mee6 the shitbox

i wonder if im banned from web3

NOPE

[deft wolf]

You can start reading from here #development message

[deft wolf]

At that exact moment, I think Tim got the role

[sharp geyser]

I keep mee6 blocked 24/7

[warm surge]

agree

oooo

we should ask veld to remove mee6

[pale vessel]

you're not banned there?

[warm surge]

i guess not

[pale vessel]

i thought it was linked

[warm surge]

no

how the fuck discord servers "linked" to each other

[pale vessel]

through their bot, i mean

[warm surge]

nah

[sharp geyser]

Of course not

mee6 despite being a terrible bot is doing nothing wrong

[warm surge]

damn

[warm surge]

[eternal osprey]

yo tf

i just witnessed all discord bot tags switch to app

[warm surge]

we know

[eternal osprey]

okay?

how do i add an image to my rich presence?

client.user.setPresence({
      activities: [
        { name: `Spreading Positivity`, type: ActivityType.Playing },
      ],
      status: "dnd",
      largeImageKey: "4443538961_04500644e7_b",
      largeImageText: "Spreading Love and Positivity",
      smallImageKey: "4443538961_04500644e7_b",
      smallImageText: "Spreading Love and Positivity",
    });

doesn't seem to work

[warm surge]

on the bot or the user

[warm surge]

Cuz on the bot you can’t

[deft wolf]

Unfortunately

Although since Discord added animated avatars for bots and banners, there may be a slight chance

[warm surge]

@eternal osprey not for self promo its a example like this is for only for users at the moment

or even

[deft wolf]

🥚

[lament rock]

Bots cannot have rich presences

[warm surge]

already been told

[lament rock]

Your language was indirect. Hearing it from multiple people is good

[warm surge]

hm

[dusky idol]

https://prnt.sc/B6IOnFcUPnHy Why can't I reply to the comments on my bot's page? I give replies and they just don't work or go through, I reload the page and they are gone. First I don't understand why people even raise questions on the top.gg page of the bot instead of joining support server, and second why doesn't the website allow me to answer the comments?

[harsh aspen]

i

[sharp geyser]

Do I need to generate ssl keys with like letsencrypt if I am using cloudflare origin certs? ( not sure what the difference between the two is as they are generated under the ssl tab :^) )

[quartz kindle]

i forgot what they call it, but they have two modes

i think its flex and strict?

one lets you use any ssl, then cf adds their own ssl on top

[sharp geyser]

yea flex I think you can bring in letsencrypt right?

[quartz kindle]

and the other forces you to use cf's own ssl only

[sharp geyser]

flex iirc is for only client side ssl

and you have to use letsencrypt for server ssl

strict handles both

I think

[quartz kindle]

the client-side only is a third mode i think

ah its full and full-strict

actually you might be able to use letsencrypt in the full strict mode

[sharp geyser]

I dont want to use letsencyrpt tbh

[quartz kindle]

it says it accepts anything that comes from a trusted origin

[sharp geyser]

you have to renew those eveyr 60 days pain

cloudflare has 15 year certs

[quartz kindle]

i mean, it renews automatically

[quartz kindle]

lmao really

[sharp geyser]

yea

[quartz kindle]

the free ones?

[sharp geyser]

yup

[quartz kindle]

dafuq

[sharp geyser]

Origin CA certs are 15 years

[quartz kindle]

i thought they were like 1 year max

[sharp geyser]

Nope

15

[quartz kindle]

ima get one for me too then

lmao

[sharp geyser]

its covers wildcards too

[sharp geyser]

well fuck

I did something wrong

😭

[quartz kindle]

lmao

[sharp geyser]

bro

what are these logs

💀

What am I doing wrong

[sharp geyser]

do you have any idea on how to help me

like where do I even start looking

😭

This is for the most part the same exact setup as I had on my last vps, except my dns was slightly different

[lament rock]

I have a script that auto-renews letsencrypt. Dont have to deal with it

No I wont share :(

[harsh aspen]

no one asked

[sharp geyser]

cool

I will use origin ca certs

that I dont have to renew for 15 years

💀

[lament rock]

#development message 🤓

[sharp geyser]

btw

while you are here

help

please

😭

[lament rock]

I have no experience with cf otherwise I would

[sharp geyser]

maybe its not even cf

[lament rock]

Thought about getting into it for interaction load balancing

[sharp geyser]

idk where the issue actually is

[lament rock]

It says host error and not like a gateway timeout or anything so

Might want to monitor traffic from your app

[sharp geyser]

yea but the thing is everything looks good on my end

I don't notice any issues

[lament rock]

Does cf give you any logs

[sharp geyser]

server {
  listen 80 default_server;
  listen [::]:80 default_server;
  server_name mail.collegecrafts.io autodiscover.* autoconfig.*;
  return 301 https://$host$request_uri;
}


server {
    listen 443 ssl http2;
    listen [::]:443 ssl http2;
    server_name mail.collegecrafts.io autodiscover.* autoconfig.*;

    ssl_certificate /etc/ssl/certs/mail.collegecrafts.io.pem;
    ssl_certificate_key /etc/ssl/private/mail.collegecrafts.io.key;
    ssl_session_timeout 1d;
    ssl_session_cache shared:SSL:50m;
    ssl_session_tickets off;


    ssl_client_verify on
    ssl_client_certificate /etc/ssl/certs/cloduflare.crt

    ssl_protocols TLSv1.2;
    ssl_ciphers HIGH:!aNULL:!MD5:!SHA1:!kRSA;
    ssl_prefer_server_ciphers off;

    location /Microsoft-Server-ActiveSync {
        proxy_pass http://127.0.0.1:8080/Microsoft-Server-ActiveSync;
        proxy_set_header Host $http_host;
        proxy_set_header X-Real-IP $remote_addr;
        proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-For $proxy_add_x_forwarded_for;
        proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-Proto https;
        proxy_connect_timeout 75;
        proxy_send_timeout 3650;
        proxy_read_timeout 3650;
        proxy_buffers 64 512k;
        client_body_buffer_size 512k;
        client_max_body_size 0;
    }
    location / {
        proxy_pass http://127.0.0.1:8080/;
        proxy_set_header Host $http_host;
        proxy_set_header X-Real-IP $remote_addr;
        proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-For $proxy_add_x_forwarded_for;
        proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-Proto https;
        proxy_buffer_size 128k;
        proxy_buffers 64 512k;
        proxy_busy_buffers_size 512k;
    }
}```

like nginx looks fine

unless I am blind

[sharp geyser]

No idea, I yet to see anything

[lament rock]

Looks a little different from how I setup nginx

But im on mobile so cant check

[harsh aspen]

your nginx is wrong

[sharp geyser]

How?

[harsh aspen]

idk but this is too long

server {
    listen 80;
     listen [::]:80;
    server_name domain.com;
    root /root/(project path);

    location / {
         proxy_pass http://127.0.0.1:3600;
         proxy_read_timeout     60;
         proxy_connect_timeout  60;
         proxy_redirect         off;

         # Allow the use of websockets
         proxy_http_version 1.1;
         proxy_set_header Upgrade $http_upgrade;
         proxy_set_header Connection 'upgrade';
         proxy_set_header Host $host;
         proxy_cache_bypass $http_upgrade;
    }
}

mine is just like that

[sharp geyser]

💀

yea please don't respond

ever

[harsh aspen]

ok

mine works

yours not

[sharp geyser]

@clear plinth this is several cases where this guy has responded in this channel with either A. chatgpt responses or B. spewing bullshit

please at this point do something about it

[harsh aspen]

bruh

this time I was actually trying to help

[sharp geyser]

yea nah

you said "idk yours is too long"

if you don't know, then don't respond

[harsh aspen]

I haven't said that

[warm surge]

Lmaoo mine simple

server {
    listen 80 default_server;
    listen [::]:80 default_server;

    listen 443 ssl default_server;
    listen [::]:443 ssl default_server;

    ssl_certificate /etc/nginx/ssl/origin-certificate.pem;
    ssl_certificate_key /etc/nginx/ssl/oliverbot.xyz-private-key.key;

    root /home/website;

    index index.html index.htm index.nginx-debian.html;

    server_name oliverbot.xyz www.oliverbot.xyz;

    location / {
        try_files $uri $uri/ =404;
    }

    location /api/ {
        proxy_redirect          http://localhost:5484  https://oliverboy.xyz/api/; #<-- change
        proxy_pass_header       Server;
        proxy_set_header        X-Real-IP $remote_addr;
        proxy_set_header        X-Forwarded-For $proxy_add_x_forwarded_for;
        proxy_set_header        X-Scheme $scheme;
        proxy_set_header        Host $http_host;
        proxy_set_header        X-NginX-Proxy true;
        proxy_connect_timeout   5;
        proxy_read_timeout      240;
        proxy_intercept_errors  on;

        proxy_pass              http://127.0.0.1:5484;
    }
}

[lament rock]

This is my config for https://amanda.moe

server {
    listen 80 default_server; # [6]
    listen 127.0.0.1:80 default_server; # [6]
    server_name amanda.moe; # [1]
    return 301 https://$host$request_uri;
}

server {
    listen 443 ssl http2 default_server; # [6]
    listen 127.0.0.1:443 ssl http2 default_server; # [6]
    server_name amanda.moe; # [1]
    ssl_certificate /etc/letsencrypt/live/amanda.moe-0001/fullchain.pem; # [3]
    ssl_certificate_key /etc/letsencrypt/live/amanda.moe-0001/privkey.pem; # [3]
    ssl_session_timeout 1d; # [2]
    ssl_session_cache shared:MozSSL:10m; # [2]
    ssl_session_tickets off; # [2]
    ssl_dhparam /etc/nginx/ssl/dhparam.pem; # [2] [5]
    ssl_ciphers ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:ECDHE-ECDSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305:ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305:DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; # [2]
    ssl_prefer_server_ciphers off; # [2]
    client_max_body_size 5M;
    proxy_set_header Host $host;
    proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-For $remote_addr;
    location / {
        proxy_set_header X-Forwarded-For $remote_addr; # [4]
        proxy_pass http://127.0.0.1:10400;
        proxy_http_version 1.1;
        proxy_set_header Upgrade $http_upgrade;
        proxy_set_header Connection "upgrade";
    }
}

redirects http requests to the https port

[sharp geyser]

Okay but you guys have to understand

I am doing a mail server configuration

💀

[lament rock]

Ah I see

[sharp geyser]

It has some extra stuff that not everyone needs

[lament rock]

I unfortunately wont be of much help then

[sharp geyser]

fair enough thanks for trying :)

[warm surge]

i use cloudflare bs

[sharp geyser]

that Microsoft stuff is literally just so it can support logging in to other clients like outlook, gmail, etc

@lyric mountain if I remember correctly didn't you help me with mailcow last time (sorry for ping Im desperate)

[lyric mountain]

Wasn't me

Was one of the mods iirc

[sharp geyser]

I looked back in logs you helped me with a similar issue

[lyric mountain]

Not related to email I'm sure, never dealt with anything related

[sharp geyser]

it was the nginx stuff for it

cause I think nginx was the reason it was causing 500 errors

[lyric mountain]

What code is it? 500?

[sharp geyser]

521

[lyric mountain]

https://http.cat/521

Hm, is the webserver running?

[sharp geyser]

Yea

nginx is up

no errors from nginx -t

[lyric mountain]

What are you trying to access?

[sharp geyser]

this is my current conf

mail.collegecrafts.io

[lyric mountain]

Is the mail server up?

[sharp geyser]

I have the same exact setup as last time

according to docker compose yea

the logs for the mailserver seem clean as well

I see no issues

[lyric mountain]

Check nginx log

/var/nginx iirc

But I never remember the path

[sharp geyser]

nothing about my mail stuff

actually looking through the mailcow docker logs it does show some errors relating to the dockerapi component but it seems to have eventually started

https://pastes.dev/jjkktWzmSl
This is one of the errros I found

[eternal osprey]

Uncaught CombinedPropertyError Error: Received one or more errors```

how the fuck can i solve this

like it doesn't even tell me what error it has

it even happens after i use a try catch

[frosty gale]

where is this error coming from

[frosty gale]

looks like for whatever reason it cant resolve your domain for whatever youre trying to connect to

socket.gaierror: [Errno -2] Name does not resolve

doubt your dns is fucked so i would double check the domain its trying to resolve

[proven cove]

ive been fighting with this bot for hours now trying to get it to see my server for DayZ, it still cant find it, i need help

[frosty gale]

you need to be more specific

what bot? if its a bot someone made youd be better off contacting the developer or server of it

[proven cove]

thats as specific as it gets, ss9 bot isnt picking up my dayz server

[frosty gale]

you should probably join their support server here https://top.gg/bot/744547656843526226

they can help more than we can

[eternal osprey]

hey guys i need to do a research on computing and sustainability. Would a research on more substainable training methods for convulational methods be a good topic?

[wheat mesa]

I would say that training large AIs (LLMs mostly) as well as using them is very unsustainable right now due to their high energy costs, perhaps doing research on that would be good

[eternal osprey]

damn that sounds good

I once had to train a large image generator AI which took so fucking much power to do. It was running at an almost 100% cpu rate for like 4-5 days.

Might take the resource usage and discuss it in this research

[earnest phoenix]

should i be using text-wrap in css?

[sharp geyser]

depends on the situation

Most of the time it’s fine though

[frosty gale]

well yeah the cpu isnt optimised for machine learning tasks which often involves running mathematical functions many times a second on every single neuron in the layer

gpus are great for that because they can do that in parallel very fast

but even for machine learning they arent great

google made their own inhouse chip which performs better than the top of the range gpu apparently at less of the cost

tensor processing unit or whatever

but you cant buy it youd have to use it through google cloud

[eternal osprey]

Damnnn thank you so much for the intel

[eternal osprey]

Idk if you are familiar with these fra@works but it’s essentially the same as Hadoop vs spark

Spark is hella good at parallel computing while Hadoop is optimized for sequential things making it bad for machine learning or iterative algorithms

[surreal sage]

play break in irl

[sharp geyser]

Im sure with enough money you can get one yourself

[lament rock]

it probably wouldnt be economic

[frosty gale]

google no no wanna

with a contract then maybe

for example a data center having a contract with google then maybe theyd consider it

but unlikely given their have their own cloud

its probably not even that impressive just like how google hyped their bard up during a presentation

power efficient maybe

[sharp geyser]

lol yea

[round cove]

This happens all the time now that my bot is a little bit bigger. Does this happen to anyone else in the 25k server range?

[earnest phoenix]

I don't know how to make a bot... I really need someone to help me 💀

[craggy pine]

Start with a coding language, learn the basics of said coding language of your choice, and use a library that uses Discord's API to create a bot with it. For example: Javascript has Discord.js and other stuff, Java has JDA, ect ect.

[earnest phoenix]

oh alright.

[chrome quest]

Use ChatGPT for learning

Don’t use it long term tho

[craggy pine]

I'd defenitly suggest against that because it will promote bad habbits of having chat gpt just write code for you so you realistically wont learn anything.

[rose warren]

Do you cluster at all or only use internal sharding?

I don't remember exactly but I think around 25k is when I started clustering for performance gains. I use d.js though so it might depend on your library I'm not sure. I'm no expert How many guilds do you have per shard?

[round cove]

Haven't done clustering, not even sure what that would be in terms of Discord bots.

I also use Djs, I just use its sharding.

Djs likes to put 1k servers per shard.

I don't have performance issues. I self host the bot on a server at home though.

[rose warren]

You should probably look at clustering anyway. Discord bots don't scale well beyond a certain point and 25k is around when I clustering mine. I'd recommend this package. Requires minimal changes to your existing code and it's what most people use.

https://www.npmjs.com/package/discord-hybrid-sharding

I definitely had shard disconnect issues before I started clustering though. I remember restarting my bot to try and fix them.

[round cove]

Black magic

I'll look into it. Seems easy enough to add at least.

[frosty gale]

the junior devs nowadays are spoiled

they have llms are their disposal that can write code

back in my day you had to beg people to help

[radiant kraken]

i've never touched chatgpt

[neon leaf]

I really like llms for writing annoying code, the rest is almost always shit output

[frosty gale]

sharding as much in a single process as you can is the key

ideally you should fit as many shards in a single process as you can until you start getting issues like slow responses or high cpu on a single core

otherwise youre really wasting resources because spawning an identical process that does the same thing is expensive especially for node

@quartz kindle cant you spawn clusters as worker threads perhaps

threads are also distributed amongst cores and you have the advantage of keeping everything under one process and reducing communication between cluster delays

@green kestrel does your library do something like this?

actually nodes worker threads suck as well because you cant directly access another threads memory

[neon leaf]

technically you can using SharedArrayBuffer

its a very weird api though

[green kestrel]

not like that

in dpp, a shard has a native thread and a cluster is just a collection of shards in an object

you can if you wish decide to put each of those clusters in a process, or you can put them in an array and run them all in one process, we dont restrict that choice

in triviabot, i run one cluster per process with 8 shards per cluster, 18 clusters total

in seven spells and sporks, its just two and four shards in one cluster process

discord.js doesnt do sharding in a very efficient way as far as i can see

also dpp clusters dont communicate unless you add something outside the lib to make them communicate, they dont generally need to, or to share cache

[quartz kindle]

worker threads have been proven to fail time and time again when handling heavy loads

the way node handles and allocates resources for them is weird, they often crash due to memory issues despite the parent process still having memory available, or sometimes they crash the parent process as well

[green kestrel]

sounds like a node problem

[quartz kindle]

yup

[frosty gale]

sounds good I'd keep them in separate threads too

[quartz kindle]

thats why using child processes is recommended

[frosty gale]

better concurrency as well

I mean in c++ you don't really have an event loop so you'd have to anyways unless you wanna implement one with async or whatever modern c++ comes with

[frosty gale]

yeah they sound crap no wonder no one uses them

there's so much potential with it though surprised they aren't really focused on them

if they can figure out a way to easily and safely share memory between threads and make them stable it's a game changer

[quartz kindle]

its hard because v8 is not designed for that, they need to keep hacking and modding v8 to even implement basic stuff like that

found this in the ndoe github issues

out-of-memory errors are not recoverable so ☝️is not a reasonable expectation. It's a V8 limitation that is not under node's control.
Node does try to terminate workers when it detects almost-out-of-memory conditions but that's a best effort attempt, it's not 100% reliable.

[frosty gale]

whats the point adding worker threads then

if theyre so unstable its pointless using them in production

they could instead add something similar but more fit for purpose such as for i/o or cpu purposes

if only voltrex wasnt banned for some arbitrary reason we could be pressing him rn

he always has an answer for anything v8 or node related surprisingly

[quartz kindle]

they are good for cpu-heavy workloads

not for long-running memory-heavy workloads

[green kestrel]

I keep getting the urge to integrate dpp and libduktape

to have a hybrid c++/js emca platform designed for extreme efficiency discord apps

you wouldn't use Discordjs in it, but js mappings for dpp, and dpp cache and native functions

basically instead of "node index.js" you'd do "dppjs index.js" and it would have a binary

the difficulty is automating creation of a duktape wrapper for dpp

[eternal osprey]

Hey guys is this true about dns resolving?

uppose I want to search for google.co.uk
we first of all with our dns resolver request for google.co.uk to the root dns server. it returns us the address of the first TLD .uk.
Our dns resolver then requests for google.co in the TLD server, which searches in the autorative servers of .uk tld.
it returns us now the tld .co ip address.
our dns resolver then again queries tld .co for google. This tld will again then return us the authorative server ip addresses of this tld.
we then again with our dns resolver, try to find google from each authoartive server.
this time it returns the ip address of google.

so i think that it follows structure:
-> root -> tld -> authorative server -> ip of name mapping
where each -> represents one request by our dns resolver.

[eternal osprey]

in the green erros where it says name server for .edu for example, does it return an authrative nameservers of that tld?

that we then again need to query for googleplex for example

because the tld's only save mappings to authorative nameservers, which itself map tld's and other domain names to actual ip addresses.

or does querying the tld automaticlly query it's own authoartiveservers?

[hidden gorge]

is there anything im doing wrong here?

client.on(Events.GuildMemberUpdate, (OM, NM) => {
  const OBS = OM.premiumSince !== null
  const NBS = NM.premiumSince !== null

  if (OBS !== NBS) {
    if (NBS && NM.guild.id === config.StaffGuildID) {
      const Channel = client.channels.cache.get("1202078134539649075")

      if (Channel) {
        try {
          console.log("Boost Event Ran")

          const NewBoostEmbed = new EmbedBuilder()
            .setTitle("🎉 New Boost! 🎉")
            .setDescription(`Thank you ${NM.user.username} for Boosting RoSearcher Support!`)
            .setColor("LuminousVividPink")

          Channel.send({ embeds: [NewBoostEmbed] })

        } catch (e) {
          console.log(`Boost Event Error: ${e}`)
        }
      } else {
        console.log("Boost Channel does not exist")
      }
    }
  }
})

[eternal osprey]

idk what the issue is. but const OBS = OM.premiumSince !== null
const NBS = NM.premiumSince !== null is not needed. You can simply check OM.premiumSince !== NM.premiumSince.

[hidden gorge]

I'll try this and let you know if it fixes it

[wheat mesa]

cache and not fetch

also you should really start using camelCase or some sort of standard cus you've got everything all over the place

[radiant kraken]

time to start playing around with DPP

why

i literally did ```cpp
void ping(qp::Bot* bot, const dpp::slashcommand_t& event) {
event.reply("Pong!");
}

just like https://dpp.dev/slashcommands.html

@green kestrel @wheat mesa

[green kestrel]

what is qp::Bot?

Read loop ended means an exception was caught by dpp inside an event handler

thrown by your event handler

@radiant kraken take a look at how the example registers commands, you definitely dont want to do it on EVERY on_ready

[radiant kraken]

my custom bot class, inheriting dpp::cluster

[radiant kraken]

oh right i forgot about the once thing

[green kestrel]

your way of iterating a vector is awful, theres a nice way:

for (const auto & item : container) {
}

[radiant kraken]

thanks! i haven't touched C++ in 3 years

[green kestrel]

people havent been directly accessing iterators like that since like C++14

[radiant kraken]

lmao

[green kestrel]

when you do command->callback how does that work, what does it do

if youre passing it in by reference or pointer, then spawning a thread, or anything, remember that dpp events occur in a thread, you have to be careful of ownership and lifetime

coming from rust, it enforces this for you, C++ doesnt care

[radiant kraken]

typedef struct {
    const char* name;
    const char* description;
    std::initializer_list<command_option_t> options;
    std::function<void(qp::Bot* bot, const dpp::slashcommand_t& event)> callback;
} command_t;

[green kestrel]

interesting

not sure what in your code is throwing the invalid function call exception

looks like std::runtime_error

ah no i know

your std::function doesnt point to a valid function, its not set yet

thats what is thrown if you do command->callback, but callback isnt yet set to a pointer

its a safety check against *(null)(lol)

[radiant kraken]

really? well...

[green kestrel]

idk, it seems pretty over engineered

[radiant kraken]

wait really? lmao

[green kestrel]

yeah

[radiant kraken]

isn't like

every C++ project this way

[green kestrel]

no

https://github.com/brainboxdotcc/command_example

this is the simplest multiple command discord bot in dpp that we could come up with

there are hundreds of ways to do the same, the way seven spells works is somewhat like what youre trying to do, not the simple example above

[radiant kraken]

aight

any idea on what struct register_bot_commands is?

[green kestrel]

the example above just makes a function for each command

rather than building complex classes

[green kestrel]

its a struct that isnt defined

do you want the reason? 😄

[radiant kraken]

yes

[green kestrel]

ok

so

if you define a template in C++, it decides if its unique based on what you template it to

so template<class X> is unique compared to template<class Y>

we use this to make a unique static boolean, used to determine if that block has ran yet or not

by defining some random class/struct name in the template it gives it the uniqueness

even if you never define that struct

[radiant kraken]

WHAT

[green kestrel]

so, whenever you use run_once, if you put a different struct name in there... it will treat it as a unique section

[radiant kraken]

that's insane

[green kestrel]

yeah i know lol

[radiant kraken]

i can just put struct adjdjsfdsfidsjfdf

[green kestrel]

but kinda cool

sure

struct cpp_why_you_so_fucked_up

this is how ssod commands are defined:

https://github.com/brainboxdotcc/ssod/blob/main/include/ssod/commands/help.h
https://github.com/brainboxdotcc/ssod/blob/main/src/commands/help.cpp

feel free to steal the files from this if you want to use it

some real useful stuff in there like a mysql db wrapper

youd need include/ssod/command.h and src/command.cpp

commands are registered in listeners.cpp: https://github.com/brainboxdotcc/ssod/blob/main/src/listeners.cpp#L170

i really dont recommend looking at how triviabot does commands

theres SO much stuff in there you probably dont need

[radiant kraken]

why

then you've clearly overengineered it

[green kestrel]

like accepting commands from four sources: slashcommands, messages, dashboard code and cron jobs

i need that there, do you?

😄

[radiant kraken]

i dont think so

[green kestrel]

triviabot command handler actually converts slash commands internally to message commands

because that was less rewriting

and passes a state object in, to determine where to route the reply back to

not if youre on a deadline

with slash commands we were all on a deadline

[radiant kraken]

i feel that

[green kestrel]

oh, and triviabot command handler can externalise a command

basically, spawn a thread, where an external php script executed, and the stdout captured as json and sent back to discord via event.reply

[radiant kraken]

insane

[green kestrel]

this was used a lot more in previous versions, now only /globalrank and /localrank use it (try them over on #commands)

[radiant kraken]

anyway maybe it's because of std::function? what if i turn it to a function pointer

[green kestrel]

you can try it and see

but if it really isnt initialised youre replacing a thrown exception with a null pointer dereference

[radiant kraken]

using a function pointer somewhat fixed it at least now i know it's pointing... somewhere (and the function gets called, but the same error still shows up) ```cpp
std::cout << "WOOHOOO RUNNING!" << (std::size_t)(command.callback) << '\n';
return command.callback(this, event);

@green kestrel IT WORKED! i literally just added a std::cout to the reply callback ```cpp
event.reply("Pong!", [](auto _) {
std::cout << "it works!\n";
});

how

[green kestrel]

no idea

usually odd behaviour like this is the result of:

https://dpp.dev/lambdas-and-locals.html

[frosty gale]

last time i had something like this happen was because of undefined behaviour

[green kestrel]

accessing stuff that's outside of lifetime is UB

[radiant kraken]

the lambda function was empty lmao

[frozen isle]

Can Anyone Share Me A Script For Showing How To Show Server stats In Top.gg In Python

[sharp geyser]

no

cause there is an example on the docs page

[warm surge]

I literally said same thing in api channel

[sharp geyser]

[warm surge]

[lament rock]

I have every channel hidden except this chat

[radiant kraken]

very tim move

[lament rock]

things kinda fell off ever since 3rd party bots werent allowed in the server, though it was at the behest of Discord so

hbd btw

[radiant kraken]

thanks!! ❤️

[quartz kindle]

@radiant kraken happy bird day!

[radiant kraken]

tysm experienced! 🫶

[quartz kindle]

the bird is the law

[timber hatch]

does anyone know any good stripe connect tutorials to build marketplaces?

[sharp geyser]

The api docs

[timber hatch]

yeah no fax, but it’s much easier to learn from implementation first then reference the docs for any issues or specifics based on my use case

[sharp geyser]

It has guides on how to implement

[frosty gale]

tbf yea its a tiny bit dead without the bots

its what made the server special

but nothing they couldve done really discord put a limit on bots in a server

[sharp geyser]

I also think that they got tired of people using the help command and spamming chat lol

[lament rock]

!help mfs

[frosty gale]

that was the funniest shit

!help and the entire channel got spammed and someone ended up being muted

[coarse vapor]

How to install a text translator .. ~

[frosty gale]

then some shit turkish bot responds to the help command 2 minutes later

[sharp geyser]

Yup

[real rose]

literally

[quartz kindle]

if(
    (((pdiff > 0 && ndiff > 0) || (pdiff < 0 && ndiff < 0)) && ((apdiff < target && andiff > target) || (apdiff > target && andiff < target))) ||
    (apdiff < target && andiff < target && target - apdiff < target / 2 && target - andiff < target / 2) ||
    (apdiff > target && andiff > target && apdiff - target < target / 2 && andiff - target < target / 2)
) {}
``` i have no idea what im doing, nor if this even works @_@

[frosty gale]

do i wanna know what youre trying to do

that looks like some collision detection if anything

[wheat mesa]

most readable control flow

(Imagine what this shit looks like if it was compiled down to asm)

[quartz kindle]

im so tired of this crap, i spend weeks thinking about this but have 0 motivation to work on it because i have no clear idea of how to proceed

[lyric mountain]

make a isBetween func, does wonders to make code easier to bugfix

[frosty gale]

tim_cursed_conditions:
        sub     rsp, 24
        mov     r9d, ecx
        mov     rax, QWORD PTR fs:40
        mov     QWORD PTR [rsp+8], rax
        xor     eax, eax
        test    edi, edi
        jle     .L11
        test    esi, esi
        jle     .L11
.L2:
        cmp     edx, r8d
        setl    al
        cmp     r8d, r9d
        setl    cl
        and     al, cl
        je      .L17
.L1:
        mov     rdx, QWORD PTR [rsp+8]
        sub     rdx, QWORD PTR fs:40
        jne     .L18
        add     rsp, 24
        ret
.L11:
        test    edi, esi
        js      .L2
.L4:
        cmp     edx, r9d
        mov     eax, r9d
        cmovge  eax, edx
        cmp     r8d, eax
        jle     .L6
        mov     ecx, r8d
        mov     eax, r8d
        shr     ecx, 31
        sub     eax, edx
        add     ecx, r8d
        sar     ecx
        cmp     eax, ecx
        jge     .L6
        mov     esi, r8d
        mov     eax, 1
        sub     esi, r9d
        cmp     ecx, esi
        jg      .L1
.L6:
        cmp     edx, r9d
        mov     ecx, r9d
        cmovle  ecx, edx
        xor     eax, eax
        cmp     r8d, ecx
        jge     .L1
        mov     ecx, r8d
        sub     edx, r8d
        shr     ecx, 31
        add     ecx, r8d
        sar     ecx
        cmp     edx, ecx
        jge     .L1
        mov     eax, r9d
        sub     eax, r8d
        cmp     ecx, eax
        setg    al
        jmp     .L1
.L17:
        cmp     edx, r8d
        setg    al
        cmp     r8d, r9d
        setg    cl
        and     al, cl
        jne     .L1
        jmp     .L4
.L18:
        call    __stack_chk_fail

[lament rock]

Math is really hard and complex logic quickly becomes unreadable and unmaintainable. I find it helps if you write down what it is you want to achieve and break it down similar to what Kuu said. I also sometimes write logic in plain english if I'm really stumped

[frosty gale]

youre welcome

[lament rock]

Thanks I hate it

[frosty gale]

thats O2 optimized as well

its a lot shorter than i thought so i think some of the checks in your condition are redundant and can be simplified

[sage bobcat]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[frosty gale]

thats tame in assembly terms

[lyric mountain]

((pdiff > 0 && ndiff > 0) || (pdiff < 0 && ndiff < 0)) can be replaced by Math.sign(pdiff) == Math.sign(ndiff)

tho the apdiff/andiff stuff I cant think of a way to be shortened

[quartz kindle]

honestly i should jsut go the long way around it

isolate more conditions and contexts and make the math simpler for each context

instead of trying to reduce code by designing catch-all conditions

[lament rock]

You can expand it once you figure it all out I feel like

Reduced code per context can also help spot potential optimizations

[sage bobcat]

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[frosty gale]

ive seen bigger

[radiant kraken]

that's what she said

[frosty gale]

i said what i said

[cosmic orbit]

Hey is there a way in python where I can give rewards based on if a person has voted or not?
API/ Documentation in Python
or something

[quartz kindle]

https://docs.top.gg/docs/Libraries/python

[sharp geyser]

[wheat mesa]

Afaik no

There is always reflection though

This sounds like an XY problem because you should almost never need to “modify bytecode”

…why?

I’m pretty sure that if a method isn’t called by anything the compiler will try it’s best to strip it out anyways

well then I think you’ll shoot yourself in the foot even attempting anything close to that

[frosty gale]

java is quite inflexible in that regard i would imagine

[lyric mountain]

you "can"

note the quotes

I say this because I know frameworks that use this

dont ask me HOW to do it tho

I also suggest against removing things from the bytecode, JIT will take care of them the best way possible

like lombok?

well, you can modify bytecode the same way lombok does it, but it does use reflection

i could also technically use a annotation processor
also this is technically reflection too

[wheat mesa]

Again there’s probably a billion better ways to do what you want to do

Java isn’t a fun language to mess with in that regard, I’d say C# is probably the easiest to mess with

[lyric mountain]

gradle has access to the generated bytecode, and as such you can manipulate it with groovy/kotlin

but it'll require a lot of documentation reading

https://www.javassist.org/ and https://asm.ow2.io/ are your best bets if you can access the classloader

the latter is how gradle does gradle stuff

but do you really need to remove it? like, isn't there any other way?

[eternal osprey]

can i get your vsc theme?

sbit looks hella kawaii cute

wait is that intellj?

thankss

[lyric mountain]

do you really need to remove it?

you could also just put those dev-only mixins in a folder and exclude it on gradle

[frosty gale]

what are mixins? im very inclined to say use macros to fix this situation but im guessing java doesnt support them

[lyric mountain]

mixins are injectable code

[frosty gale]

whats the use case

[lyric mountain]

when you want to inject code

like, when extending is not enough and you want to change stuff in a built-in class

akin to js prototype, if you will

cant you just put those injectors in another class and exclude it when in production?

if you need to access properties or call methods then extend the mixin and make them protected

messing with bytecode is messier tbf

if you used groovy you could just append/overwrite the original method

as it has a prototype-like way of doing it

[past field]

how can i get time stamps generated in my giveaway command?

[real rose]

<t:1713821460:R>

like these ones?

[eternal osprey]

what can i do with this little white strip at the bottom?

lke any ideas

[real rose]

Put them into the format <t: :> - I personally use this website; https://hammertime.cyou/en-GB

if thats what you mean

[frosty gale]

<t:1713821520:R>

woah

[past field]

but like, if i put “5 minutes” into my parameter, how can i get the bot the generate that code in that format in the embed with that website?

do i need to npm install anything? or is there a module that does it already? api?

[eternal osprey]

just calculate the next timestamp you need, put it in the <t:....:R> format

that's it

[real rose]

calculate the unix timestamp for that time.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/70357452/how-to-add-x-days-to-unix-timestamp

This SO article gives the easiest way to do it (:

[past field]

you guys are literally the best ever!!! ok i’ll read over this, thank you!!

[real rose]

Because the epoch timestamp is basically just how many ms have happened since a certain date (unsure what date it is), so it's as simple as adding X amount of ms to the current date

Good overview (from https://www.epochconverter.com/)

[eternal osprey]

wasn't it 1970

that's when the first unix based system emerged iirc

[real rose]

as shown in the screenshot, yeah it is

[eternal osprey]

and they used that as a timestamp

[real rose]

1 jan 1970

[eternal osprey]

oowh didn't see that

[real rose]

i couldnt remmbver

but did come across it before

but you right

[eternal osprey]

Rcently had a lecture about it

so it still haunted me

[dense berry]

yo anyone know a really good discord bot hosting site that allows a bulk-upload of ~ 1GB? My bot also converts typescript to javascript so I was wondering if any site exists so that I can run these specific commands to do so? (Specifically pnpm)

[lament rock]

Your own vps

[lyric mountain]

1gb of code is an impressive size

[dense berry]

most of it is pnpm packages lol

[sharp geyser]

Thanks :)

[lyric mountain]

Yk ur not supposed to upload the packages right?

[dense berry]

... uhhhhhh no. So I just ignore the node_modules stuff?

[lyric mountain]

Yes

As long as you have the packages.json file, all dependencies will be downloaded before running

[dense berry]

oh damn, sweet

[lyric mountain]

As for the host, there are very few free hosts remaining, only one I know about is oracle

But oracle being oracle, your service might be terminated at moment's notice, so there's always a risk

[dense berry]

Ah yeah ok, I'm just using Pebble for now

@lyric mountain For some reason it's not finding the package

[pale vessel]

have you run npm i prior to running the script?

[sharp geyser]

He’s using pnpm

[lament rock]

I'm sane. So sane, it's in. In sane

Going through my Unity project and refactoring from getters and setters to functions to get and set private properties because getters and setter values dont update at runtime in my Unity version

C# interfaces don't allow non getter-setter properties anyways. Why did I choose to go with interfaces? Multi inheritance. Each aspect of a weapon is optional in my game and the goal is to allow mods eventually, so just having some uber script that implements everything my way limits developer freedom

[lyric mountain]

U could've used property get/set

[lament rock]

Link?

[lyric mountain]

public bool Something { get; set; }

[lament rock]

That's what I did before

and the setter wasnt updating the internal value

[lyric mountain]

Are u sure? Also, did you implement them on the classes?

[lament rock]

I did

I am very sure

[lyric mountain]

Asking cuz I do use this on godot c#

[lament rock]

It might just be a Unity bug

Since it's first converted to IL

[lyric mountain]

Btw, an interface isn't the proper thing to use here

[lament rock]

Do tell

[lyric mountain]

Use an abstract superclass instead

[lament rock]

You cannot multi inherit from classes

[lyric mountain]

Yes, but all weapons will have those properties, you can put the rest as interfaces

[lament rock]

Perhaps for just the BaseWeapon interface sure and have people derive from that and add optional interfaces from that, but each interface extends IBaseWeapon anyways

Since the static classes that use the optional interfaces also reference properties from IBaseWeapon

[lyric mountain]

The idea is not having to implement all those methods on every subclass you write

Interfaces aren't exactly for this type of thing

[lyric mountain]

Also regarding this, did you follow the debugger to see if it was reaching the implementation?

[lament rock]

I did!

[smoky nexus]

Is there a thread somewhere where cou can ask and give feedback about bots?

[frosty gale]

yes its on your computer called /dev/null

you send your feedback there

but you would join the bots support server probably to give them feedback or leave a review on their topgg page

[radiant kraken]

/dev/@radiant kraken

[smoky nexus]

I was asking for a Dev2Dev thread/channel and did not request data from /dev/random

[lyric mountain]

mount /dev/null /home

[radiant kraken]

me

[frosty gale]

the closest thing is probably this channel then

[surreal sage]

this is NOT mongodb

"copy them but dont be subtle"

[sharp geyser]

I don’t see the issue

[surreal sage]

they copied^@Q#%!@!!!@!@#!@

[sharp geyser]

I mean it looks slightly similar

But then again so do a lot of sites

💀

[lyric mountain]

yeah, both are fairly different to be called copies

big image + large text is a common frontpage layout

[real rose]

dont forget the buttons

[wheat mesa]

Yeah I think you’re overestimating the creativity of people

This is a massively common format

[sharp geyser]

It’s also hard to do much creativity on the internet in terms of web design

You can’t make it overly complex or no one will view it, you also can’t make it too simple (2000 style) or again no one will view it

So you find a format that works and use it, which a lot of sites follow the same format because well it works

[lament rock]

I went for a neocities style for https://amanda.moe

Everyone should bring back 90s looks

[sharp geyser]

Its not a bad style

if done properly

[silver jackal]

@sharp saddle

[sharp saddle]

just ask here

people would help you

i'm busy rn

[silver jackal]

so guys im trying to find bot hosting

[lament rock]

What's your budget and how powerful does it have to be

[silver jackal]

uh budget i dont like talking about that

basically not that expensive

[lament rock]

How much would you be willing to pay per month is what I'm getting at

[silver jackal]

oh

[lone plinth]

What specs are ur needs?

[silver jackal]

uh how much is bot hosting?

[lone plinth]

You can get a vps

[lament rock]

It all depends on what you need and how tolerable you are to hosting provider issues

[quartz kindle]

hetzner and datalix have good offers

[lone plinth]

Yeah

[silver jackal]

i just want host for one server

[quartz kindle]

around 3-5 usd/month

[silver jackal]

my budget $10

[lone plinth]

Hetzer, contabo

[lone plinth]

How big is your bot and what kind of bot is it?

[quartz kindle]

google has a free forever vps plan as well, where you only pay for excess bandwidth

[lament rock]

I personally use GalaxyGate for my bot, but it's $20/m for what I'm getting. Contabo is a decent budget option, but their support team is non existent basically

[silver jackal]

its private for one server

[lone plinth]

So cheap one will work

2$

[quartz kindle]

or the google's free one

[lone plinth]

Yeah

[lone plinth]

This will be fine

[lament rock]

You can also host off your own network with something like a raspberry pi. I have one for small projects I develop and one of them is a private bot

[silver jackal]

i dont know how vps work