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deft wolf Aug 11, 2023, 7:43 PM

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I'm using it right now

sharp geyser Aug 11, 2023, 7:43 PM

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Honestly might try and make detritus2.0 but the shitter version cause I will never reach the level of cakedan

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trollface

grizzled raven Aug 11, 2023, 7:44 PM

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deft wolf I'm using it right now

how does paying for servers and renewals work? it's not really clear and i don't wanna make a mistake

it says the servers are "prepaid" and when buying a server it tells you your duration, this makes me believe you pay for your time upfront and it doesn't renew after the specified duration, but in the tos it's talking about renewals?

rustic nova Aug 11, 2023, 7:45 PM

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You pay for it upfront

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if you decide not to pay again, they'll just yeet your server

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So that means you pay in advance for that month

deft wolf Aug 11, 2023, 7:46 PM

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Yea, after paying for first month you can extend this time

sharp geyser Aug 11, 2023, 7:46 PM

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It’s a method to prevent people from using and leaving before paying I assume

rustic nova Aug 11, 2023, 7:47 PM

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yup

deft wolf Aug 11, 2023, 7:47 PM

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You can also upgrade your server at any time

rustic nova Aug 11, 2023, 7:47 PM

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this also allows you to use stuff like paysafecard or paypal to make one-time payments every month

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which isnt possible on a recurring payment

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so I'm guessing they have some sort of account you can add balance to, and it'll take that to pay for the next month

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~~I must admit though, their dedi pricing is shit~~

deft wolf Aug 11, 2023, 7:48 PM

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Yes but I'm not sure if it's automatic

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I'm always doing it manually

grizzled raven Aug 11, 2023, 7:49 PM

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how long have you had your server @deft wolf

deft wolf Aug 11, 2023, 7:49 PM

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4 days

grizzled raven Aug 11, 2023, 7:49 PM

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oh

grizzled raven Aug 11, 2023, 7:49 PM

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deft wolf Yea, after paying for first month you can extend this time

are you sure mmLol

wheat mesa Aug 11, 2023, 7:50 PM

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sharp geyser Honestly might try and make detritus2.0 *but the shitter version cause I will ne...

do it

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I might try to make a game engine in C++ but with Raylib for rendering because I'm too lazy to learn opengl at an advanced level

deft wolf Aug 11, 2023, 7:50 PM

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grizzled raven are you sure <:mmLol:356831697385422848>

Well

rustic nova Aug 11, 2023, 7:50 PM

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the worst that can happen is they'll remind you about it before it runs out

scarlet raptor Aug 11, 2023, 7:51 PM

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Who plays dbl

deft wolf Aug 11, 2023, 7:51 PM

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I know there is "trafic notification" via e-mail

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Idk about payment

grizzled raven Aug 11, 2023, 7:52 PM

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deft wolf Well

ah okay, i'm assuming your server is €4.95 right, and there's no like extra fee for extending

rustic nova Aug 11, 2023, 7:52 PM

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scarlet raptor Who plays dbl

do you mean dragon ball legends

deft wolf Aug 11, 2023, 7:52 PM

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grizzled raven ah okay, i'm assuming your server is €4.95 right, and there's no like extra fee ...

No, you are paying regular price for server

rustic nova Aug 11, 2023, 7:52 PM

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you're on the wrong server

earnest phoenix Aug 11, 2023, 7:52 PM

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👍

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I like this one

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but I'm searching cheaper I'm broke

deft wolf Aug 11, 2023, 7:53 PM

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It is cheap

earnest phoenix Aug 11, 2023, 7:53 PM

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deft wolf It is cheap

not enought

deft wolf Aug 11, 2023, 7:53 PM

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I have 4 vcpu and 12gb of ram for 5 euro

grizzled raven Aug 11, 2023, 7:53 PM

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which plan did you get

earnest phoenix Aug 11, 2023, 7:54 PM

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Hetzner and DigitalOcean are absolutely the best if you can afford them, Hetzner is quite cheap

deft wolf Aug 11, 2023, 7:54 PM

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This one

earnest phoenix Aug 11, 2023, 7:54 PM

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per month 5€ 💀

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That's cheap

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ok sorry

deft wolf Aug 11, 2023, 7:55 PM

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Yea, that is like 4-5 lays chips packs in Poland XD

earnest phoenix Aug 11, 2023, 7:55 PM

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I'm so broke ahahahah

grizzled raven Aug 11, 2023, 7:55 PM

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earnest phoenix Hetzner and DigitalOcean are absolutely the best if you can afford them, Hetzner...

they have like verification before you can get your server, right

earnest phoenix Aug 11, 2023, 7:56 PM

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What kind of verification do you mean?

grizzled raven Aug 11, 2023, 8:20 PM

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earnest phoenix What kind of verification do you mean?

for hetzner don't you need ID verification?

sharp geyser Aug 11, 2023, 8:21 PM

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wheat mesa do it

Bet I will !!!!

sharp geyser Aug 11, 2023, 8:21 PM

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wheat mesa I might try to make a game engine in C++ but with Raylib for rendering because I...

Also yes do it

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Honestly just go with contabo

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:)

rustic nova Aug 11, 2023, 8:25 PM

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mfw locked myself out of my dedi again

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using rescue to add a crontab that starts wireguard

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KEKW

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because I forgor to autostart wireguard

earnest phoenix Aug 11, 2023, 8:35 PM

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grizzled raven for hetzner don't you need ID verification?

Yeah, it's quite annoying but not that much

spark flint Aug 11, 2023, 8:45 PM

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https://discord.com/developers/embeds

Discord Developer Portal

Discord Developer Portal — API Docs for Bots and Developers

Integrate your service with Discord — whether it's a bot or a game or whatever your wildest imagination can come up with.

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this is cool

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its good 👍

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i have a reseller acc too

grizzled raven Aug 11, 2023, 9:02 PM

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ah, i just asked bc i needed to ask a question about it, thanks

sharp geyser Aug 11, 2023, 9:52 PM

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https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/43c2f6e186af4647bcccb889928d2fb7 @earnest phoenix what you think about my spiffy new Socket smirk

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not done yet but you can at least make a connection to the gateway!

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minus presence

earnest phoenix Aug 11, 2023, 10:20 PM

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sharp geyser https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/43c2f6e186af4647bcccb889928d2fb7 <@4562265777981358...

That's pretty good

sharp geyser Aug 11, 2023, 10:27 PM

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earnest phoenix That's pretty good

tyty

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Any idea on how to effectively mitigate rate limiting on the gateway?

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I was thinking of using a queue system so that way priority requests get sent first

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but idk

wheat mesa Aug 11, 2023, 10:29 PM

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PriorityQueues are fun to use 😉

sharp geyser Aug 11, 2023, 10:29 PM

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wheat mesa PriorityQueues are fun to use 😉

EYES

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this is foreshadowing

wheat mesa Aug 11, 2023, 10:30 PM

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They’re easy

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It’s like a line but it’s sorted by order of importance

sharp geyser Aug 11, 2023, 10:30 PM

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I see

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how do I determine whats important tho

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obviously any reconnect/heartbeat requests are priority

wheat mesa Aug 11, 2023, 10:31 PM

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I’m not sure about js but in Java PriorityQueue determines the sorting arrangement via the compareTo method on the type being stored

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You could assign a different level of importance to each request with a property and sort by that property

sharp geyser Aug 11, 2023, 10:32 PM

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https://stackoverflow.com/questions/42919469/efficient-way-to-implement-priority-queue-in-javascript wtf

Stack Overflow

Efficient way to implement Priority Queue in Javascript?

Priority Queues have a priority value and data, for every entry.

Thus, when adding a new element to the queue, it bubbles up to the surface if it has a higher priority value than elements already ...

wheat mesa Aug 11, 2023, 10:33 PM

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Yes that’s a pretty standard way of implementing things

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Heaps are commonly used in tandem with priorityqueues and are usually implemented on an array to be more memory efficient/cache friendly

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Don’t worry too much about the implementation, it’s more important to know how to use it

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The implementation isn’t too hard once you’ve learned about what a heap is (max/min heap) and how to implement one

sharp geyser Aug 11, 2023, 10:37 PM

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yea

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idk any of that

earnest phoenix Aug 11, 2023, 10:38 PM

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There's also very good implementations that you can already use like https://github.com/luciopaiva/heapify

GitHub

GitHub - luciopaiva/heapify: The fastest JavaScript priority queue ...

The fastest JavaScript priority queue out there. Zero dependencies. - GitHub - luciopaiva/heapify: The fastest JavaScript priority queue out there. Zero dependencies.

wheat mesa Aug 11, 2023, 10:39 PM

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A heap is just a special tree, a max heap is when the greatest element of the tree is the root node, and each parent element is greater than their children

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And a min heap is the opposite, when the smallest element of the tree is the root node, and each parent element is smaller than their children

sharp geyser Aug 11, 2023, 10:40 PM

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queue.push(1, 10);

what df does this mean, I assume one of this is the priority

wheat mesa Aug 11, 2023, 10:41 PM

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However this isn't the same as a binary search tree, since that implies that the nodes are sorted in a particular order where the (usually left) child is less than the parent and the (usually right) other child is greater than the parent

wheat mesa Aug 11, 2023, 10:41 PM

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sharp geyser ``` queue.push(1, 10); ``` what df does this mean, I assume one of this is the p...

?

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It all depends on the implementation

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Oh you're looking at heapify

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anyways, gotta go to work now

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cya misty gl

sharp geyser Aug 11, 2023, 10:47 PM

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wheat mesa cya misty gl

Thanks

sharp geyser Aug 11, 2023, 10:47 PM

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earnest phoenix There's also very good implementations that you can already use like https://git...

Have a moment to talk with me about this?

earnest phoenix Aug 11, 2023, 11:39 PM

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sharp geyser Have a moment to talk with me about this?

Sure

sharp geyser Aug 11, 2023, 11:42 PM

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earnest phoenix Sure

Okay so, when it comes to using a priority queue what would be the best way of setting the priority of requests being sent over the gateway and even if its queued, I still need to make sure its not rate limiting by sending too many requests

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Should I just assign priority numbers to specific requests and when they are being made just load them into the queue and process the queue that way?

earnest phoenix Aug 11, 2023, 11:46 PM

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Yes, that's exactly what you're using the priority queue for

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The requests that are the most important should have the highest priority

sharp geyser Aug 11, 2023, 11:47 PM

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Okay

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I’m wondering how I should do this then cause obviously just doing it how I’m currently doing won’t work with a queue system

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I think I have an idea

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It’s probably not the best though

covert ingot Aug 12, 2023, 12:32 AM

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Question, with box-shadow there is a tiny bit in the corner where, well, it acts like a shadow and isnt shadowd

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any idea how i can replicate this ?

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tiny bit in left corner

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is missing

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need to fill it

lyric mountain Aug 12, 2023, 2:09 AM

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covert ingot Question, with box-shadow there is a tiny bit in the corner where, well, it acts...

Move the offset to the left

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It's not missing, think about the shadow as if it was a paper you're holding next to a light source

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So in the same way there's a tiny gap there, there'll be a tiny excess on the other side

desert verge Aug 12, 2023, 6:18 AM

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Because I have poor explaining (due to autism+ Not English Native), I need a native English to rewrite all my commands description/ Parameters description and success error messages that may not explain everything important

tulip ledge Aug 12, 2023, 6:48 AM

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desert verge Because I have poor explaining (due to autism+ Not English Native), I need a nat...

How does autism make you bad at explaining I have autism and all my friends come to me for help with basically everything because they always understand it if I explain it

tulip ledge Aug 12, 2023, 6:49 AM

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desert verge Because I have poor explaining (due to autism+ Not English Native), I need a nat...

I could do it if you translate all my stuff to french

tulip ledge Aug 12, 2023, 6:56 AM

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desert verge Because I have poor explaining (due to autism+ Not English Native), I need a nat...

Or use gpt

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Also is it possible to translate command descriptions per server?

marsh lark Aug 12, 2023, 6:59 AM

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Not per server (unless you use guild commands which is not recommended if it's a public bot), if you're trying to accomodate for different languages Discord has i18n support

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desert verge Aug 12, 2023, 7:11 AM

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tulip ledge I could do it if you translate all my stuff to french

I can be your French translator

desert verge Aug 12, 2023, 7:14 AM

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tulip ledge Or use gpt

Sooo bad

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Alright I tried to do myself

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 7:21 AM

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hi I'm not able to get topgg webhooks working on AWS

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It used to work when I used to host my bot on railway

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It does not show any errors and I have enabled all ports in aws settings

marsh lark Aug 12, 2023, 7:23 AM

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Can you try going to the webhook url in your browser? (even if its a 404)

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 7:29 AM

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marsh lark Aug 12, 2023, 7:29 AM

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Does your vps have a firewall of any kind? Like iptables

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Apart from the aws one

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 7:29 AM

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marsh lark Does your vps have a firewall of any kind? Like iptables

im not sure

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how do i check

rustic nova Aug 12, 2023, 7:52 AM

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try using iptables or ufw

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ufw status to check if you have any ufw rules set
iptables --list if you have iptables set

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 8:05 AM

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civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 10:30 AM

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Still no clue why it isn't working

rustic nova Aug 12, 2023, 11:29 AM

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then its an issue with your aws instance, can you even visit a normal webserver to begin with?

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such as by just installing apache2 and visiting that

rustic nova Aug 12, 2023, 11:29 AM

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civic bloom hi I'm not able to get topgg webhooks working on AWS

also, what port are you using

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 11:29 AM

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rustic nova also, what port are you using

5000

rustic nova Aug 12, 2023, 11:30 AM

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civic bloom

well then visiting your webserver like that here will obviously not work

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not providing a port defaults to 80

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you need to append :5000 if you're visiting a webserver under that port

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 11:37 AM

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rustic nova you need to append :5000 if you're visiting a webserver under that port

It shows 405: Method Not Allowed

rustic nova Aug 12, 2023, 11:39 AM

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at least you can connect to it, that error means that you're trying to make a get request to your webserver (aka directly visiting it on your browser) and not a post request

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which is intentional

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top.gg makes post requests to it

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 12:33 PM

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rustic nova at least you can connect to it, that error means that you're trying to make a ge...

Hmm

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So it should be working right

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But it's not

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0|bot      | Error handling request
0|bot      | Traceback (most recent call last):
0|bot      |   File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/dist-packages/aiohttp/web_protocol.py", line 332, in data_received
0|bot      |     messages, upgraded, tail = self._request_parser.feed_data(data)0|bot      |   File "aiohttp/_http_parser.pyx", line 557, in aiohttp._http_parser.HttpParser.feed_data
0|bot      | aiohttp.http_exceptions.BadStatusLine: 400, message:
0|bot      |   Bad status line "Invalid method encountered:\n\n  b'\\x02\\x01'\n    ^"
0|bot      | Error handling request
0|bot      | Traceback (most recent call last):
0|bot      |   File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/dist-packages/aiohttp/web_protocol.py", line 332, in data_received
0|bot      |     messages, upgraded, tail = self._request_parser.feed_data(data)0|bot      |   File "aiohttp/_http_parser.pyx", line 557, in aiohttp._http_parser.HttpParser.feed_data
0|bot      | aiohttp.http_exceptions.BadStatusLine: 400, message:
0|bot      |   Bad status line "Invalid method encountered:\n\n  b'\\x16\\x03\\x01'\n    ^"
0|bot      | Error handling request
0|bot      | Traceback (most recent call last):
0|bot      |   File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/dist-packages/aiohttp/web_protocol.py", line 332, in data_received
0|bot      |     messages, upgraded, tail = self._request_parser.feed_data(data)0|bot      |   File "aiohttp/_http_parser.pyx", line 557, in aiohttp._http_parser.HttpParser.feed_data
0|bot      | aiohttp.http_exceptions.BadStatusLine: 400, message:
0|bot      |   Bad status line "Invalid method

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I got this error

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I think it's from viewing from the browser

earnest phoenix Aug 12, 2023, 3:17 PM

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civic bloom ``` 0|bot | Error handling request 0|bot | Traceback (most recent call...

try:
...
except:
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earnest phoenix Aug 12, 2023, 3:17 PM

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earnest phoenix try: ... except: ...

avoiding the problem method

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 3:17 PM

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That's not the problem here

earnest phoenix Aug 12, 2023, 3:18 PM

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i didn't read sorry

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 3:18 PM

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I just want to get the webhook working

lyric mountain Aug 12, 2023, 3:18 PM

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Issue is ur using the wrong method

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Says right there

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 3:18 PM

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Yes understood

lyric mountain Aug 12, 2023, 3:19 PM

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What are u trying to connect to?

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Discord webhook?

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 3:19 PM

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rustic nova which is intentional

It's intentional according to this ^

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 3:19 PM

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lyric mountain Discord webhook?

Top.gg webhook

lyric mountain Aug 12, 2023, 3:20 PM

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Do you get that error if you receive a vote?

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Or only when trying to visit it?

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 3:20 PM

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when I try to visit on browser

lyric mountain Aug 12, 2023, 3:21 PM

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Then simply make a custom error endpoint to handle it

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You shouldn't even log 4xx error to the console

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As those are request issues

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 3:21 PM

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I'm not going to visit it on browser

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I just checked because he asked to

lyric mountain Aug 12, 2023, 3:22 PM

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Yes, but helps sanitizing your log

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 3:22 PM

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He wanted to check if the webserver is working

lyric mountain Aug 12, 2023, 3:22 PM

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Else someone could spam your log with it

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 3:22 PM

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lyric mountain Yes, but helps sanitizing your log

First let me get the webhook working

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I have no clue why it's not working

lyric mountain Aug 12, 2023, 3:23 PM

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Are u trying to test with test button?

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 3:23 PM

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yes

lyric mountain Aug 12, 2023, 3:23 PM

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Did they fix it at all?

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Cuz it wasn't working from what I remember

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 3:23 PM

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really?

lyric mountain Aug 12, 2023, 3:23 PM

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Iirc, yes

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Try voting to your bot to test

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Or use postman to mimic the request

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 3:25 PM

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lyric mountain Try voting to your bot to test

Nop

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Still doesn't work

lyric mountain Aug 12, 2023, 3:25 PM

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Is the port open?

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Nvm, u did access it on the browser

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Do you have any logging inside the endpoint?

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To know if the request is being received

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 3:27 PM

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Yeah I have

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It sends DM to the user who voted and also logs it

lyric mountain Aug 12, 2023, 3:29 PM

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Logs at what moment?

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Like, how far from the start of the function is it?

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 3:30 PM

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lyric mountain Logs at what moment?

When the user votes

lyric mountain Aug 12, 2023, 3:30 PM

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Not what i mean

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 3:30 PM

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lyric mountain Like, how far from the start of the function is it?

wdym

lyric mountain Aug 12, 2023, 3:30 PM

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Do you check anything or do database operations whatever?

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 3:31 PM

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Top.gg sends a post request to the endpoint when someone votes

lyric mountain Aug 12, 2023, 3:31 PM

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Ik

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 3:31 PM

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Nothing is wrong with the code it was working with my other host

lyric mountain Aug 12, 2023, 3:31 PM

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Put a log message at the very first line, before anything else

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 3:32 PM

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wdym

lyric mountain Aug 12, 2023, 3:32 PM

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print("here")

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Right at the first line of your endpoint

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To be extra sure it's not code issue

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 3:38 PM

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I'm sure it's not

lyric mountain Aug 12, 2023, 3:38 PM

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Won't hurt to assert

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 3:39 PM

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lyric mountain Right at the first line of your endpoint

Inside it?

lyric mountain Aug 12, 2023, 3:39 PM

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Programming isn't something you can be sure of anything, little apparently unrelated changes sometimes kill whole sections of code

lyric mountain Aug 12, 2023, 3:39 PM

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civic bloom Inside it?

First line of the function

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 3:50 PM

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lyric mountain First line of the function

Still nothing

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I don't believe it's the code

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might be top.gg issue

lyric mountain Aug 12, 2023, 3:51 PM

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Perhaps, but probably not as I'm receiving votes normally

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Use postman to try to mimic the request sent by topgg

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Also, ur not running the bot locally are you?

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 3:52 PM

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I did tell that I'm running the bot on aws

lyric mountain Aug 12, 2023, 3:53 PM

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I wasn't here before

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Btw, isn't aws too expensive for a 24/7 application?

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 3:54 PM

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should've read what I said from the beginning

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 3:54 PM

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lyric mountain Btw, isn't aws too expensive for a 24/7 application?

free tier

lyric mountain Aug 12, 2023, 3:54 PM

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civic bloom should've read what I said from the beginning

Ooooor I can ask you

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Your last resort is postman, if it fails we have a case

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Else I don't really know what could be happening

lyric mountain Aug 12, 2023, 3:55 PM

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civic bloom free tier

Free tier can't keep it up 24/7 can it?

rustic nova Aug 12, 2023, 3:56 PM

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civic bloom ``` 0|bot | Error handling request 0|bot | Traceback (most recent call...

my very bold claim would be: this error originates when your webserver is only accepting http, but you're trying to visit it with https

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that is why it cannot figure out the status code

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can you post your full url you've set within top.gg

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 3:56 PM

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rustic nova can you post your full url you've set within top.gg

I changed it to http now

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I tried with https too

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Idk I tried many times with and without the ports

rustic nova Aug 12, 2023, 3:57 PM

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well using ports is required

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as your webserver does not run on port 80 or 443

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keep in mind that:

if your webserver is only able to serve http, visiting https://example.com:3000 will not work, as using https will have top.gg assume that your webserver is using ssl

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which will have top.gg initiate a SSL connection to said domain, which your webserver will not understand and will assume its some sort of status code unknown to it

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"Invalid method encountered:\n\n b'\x02\x01'\n ^"

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is an indicator of that

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 3:59 PM

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oh yes

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I visited https on browser and it showed the error again

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But nothing when I change the url on top.gg

rustic nova Aug 12, 2023, 4:00 PM

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what happens if your visit http://example.com:3000 on your browser

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aka with your full url, using http and :3000

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 4:01 PM

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With https it shows ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR

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And with http it shows 405: Method not allowed

rustic nova Aug 12, 2023, 4:01 PM

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then your webserver cannot handle https connections

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using http should work

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yes that works

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method not allowed is again intentional, as your webserver doesn't allow get requests

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put that url on top.gg and see if it works

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 4:02 PM

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yes I did

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doesn't work

rustic nova Aug 12, 2023, 4:02 PM

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post your full url here

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and have you pressed save before testing it

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 4:03 PM

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Yes I have

rustic nova Aug 12, 2023, 4:03 PM

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aka save before using the test button

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 4:03 PM

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rustic nova post your full url here

http://aws.stooby.tech:5000/dblwebhook

rustic nova Aug 12, 2023, 4:07 PM

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are you also providing the authorization to top.gg?

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 4:08 PM

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rustic nova are you also providing the authorization to top.gg?

yes

rustic nova Aug 12, 2023, 4:08 PM

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Whats the authorization so I can test that too

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 4:09 PM

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I'll send in dms?

rustic nova Aug 12, 2023, 4:09 PM

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you can also just change it to something different now or later on

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 4:09 PM

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okay

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||moyai||

lyric mountain Aug 12, 2023, 4:10 PM

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Laughed a little

rustic nova Aug 12, 2023, 4:10 PM

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works fine

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are you sure you have pressed save on top.gg, then used the test vote button

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keep in mind depending on the library you're using, theres separate event listeners for both handling normal votes and handling test votes

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a test vote will not show up on a normal vote

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 4:12 PM

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i got this on logs

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Received a test vote by: None (12345)

rustic nova Aug 12, 2023, 4:12 PM

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And you are 100% sure you have correctly set it on top.gg

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 4:12 PM

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yes

rustic nova Aug 12, 2023, 4:12 PM

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screenshot the webhook section please

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 4:13 PM

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and yes i have saved

earnest phoenix Aug 12, 2023, 4:13 PM

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civic bloom

🗿

rustic nova Aug 12, 2023, 4:15 PM

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did you receive another test vote?

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 4:15 PM

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Nop

rustic nova Aug 12, 2023, 4:15 PM

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cant help then

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shrug

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 4:15 PM

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damn

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so whats exactly wrong

rustic nova Aug 12, 2023, 4:16 PM

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no clue

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 4:18 PM

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Probably an issue from top.gg's side right?

rustic nova Aug 12, 2023, 4:19 PM

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am not able to reproduce the issue on my end

slender steeple Aug 12, 2023, 4:19 PM

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#support check your channel? @rustic nova

rustic nova Aug 12, 2023, 4:19 PM

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wait for someone who is available?

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 4:20 PM

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Is it some DNS issue

rustic nova Aug 12, 2023, 4:20 PM

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I mean you could try testing it again later, possibly the dns is not being propagated yet

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 4:20 PM

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I'll try using the ip address

rustic nova Aug 12, 2023, 4:20 PM

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is your servers ip under that domain?

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yeah try it

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 4:21 PM

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Oh that works

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💀

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 4:22 PM

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rustic nova I mean you could try testing it again later, possibly the dns is not being propa...

How long does that usually take

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Because this has been happening for 2 days

rustic nova Aug 12, 2023, 4:23 PM

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shrug no clue who your dns provider is, if you have just added aws.* to your domain, maybe 24 hours

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I always suggest just using cloudflare instead as your dns provider

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 4:24 PM

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I am using cloudflare DNS

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1.1.1.1

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Probably top.gg isn't

rustic nova Aug 12, 2023, 4:24 PM

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not what I'm referring to

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I am referring to the provider who manages your domain

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aka your stooby.tech domain

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 4:26 PM

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oh

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 4:26 PM

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rustic nova I always suggest just using cloudflare instead as your dns provider

How can I do that

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Transfer the domain?

rustic nova Aug 12, 2023, 4:30 PM

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https://developers.cloudflare.com/fundamentals/get-started/setup/add-site/

Add a site · Cloudflare Fundamentals docs

When you add a site to Cloudflare, you need to create a new domain within Cloudflare and then perform additional steps to activate that domain.

civic bloom Aug 12, 2023, 5:01 PM

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rustic nova https://developers.cloudflare.com/fundamentals/get-started/setup/add-site/

thanks

desert verge Aug 12, 2023, 7:52 PM

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When my bot profile updates on top gg?

deft wolf Aug 12, 2023, 8:02 PM

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When you click "refresh data" and then "edit" and "save"

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If you mean bot name/profile avatar

desert verge Aug 12, 2023, 8:05 PM

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ok thx

oak vector Aug 13, 2023, 7:16 AM

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hoi

covert ingot Aug 13, 2023, 12:26 PM

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im not the best with css, n was wondering how i can put the text to be at the bottom of the image

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.desc {
    background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.5);
    bottom: 0;
    left: 0;
    box-sizing: border-box;
    color: #fff;
    margin: 0;
    margin-left: 2.5%;
    margin-bottom: 5%;
}``` margin botom made it go up, as expected, so i tried margin-top but it didnt work, it just stayed in the same position. Any ideas?

covert ingot Aug 13, 2023, 12:54 PM

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^ fixed

deft wolf Aug 13, 2023, 2:44 PM

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I am sure that everyone who is active on this channel can write a bot

peak drum Aug 13, 2023, 2:44 PM

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So true KEKWDisco

cobalt torrent Aug 13, 2023, 2:45 PM

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Maybe There Are Those Who Can't

peak drum Aug 13, 2023, 2:45 PM

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Yea not in a discord server that is almost all about discord bots KEKWSlide

cobalt torrent Aug 13, 2023, 2:46 PM

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so

peak drum Aug 13, 2023, 2:46 PM

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Maybe you have better luck somewhere else xD

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Maybe top.gg will ask a fee for it KEKWSlide

cobalt torrent Aug 13, 2023, 2:47 PM

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I'm trying my luck everywhere

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xNick Me Turkish bro okah

deft wolf Aug 13, 2023, 2:47 PM

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Cool

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Are you broke?

peak drum Aug 13, 2023, 2:48 PM

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Maybe try some small community’s

cobalt torrent Aug 13, 2023, 2:48 PM

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maybe because it's something like advertising

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Do you think I might have a chance in new communities?

deft wolf Aug 13, 2023, 2:48 PM

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No

cobalt torrent Aug 13, 2023, 2:49 PM

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?

peak drum Aug 13, 2023, 2:49 PM

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I have a free discord bot hosting for your special bot KEKWSlide

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Not for 10$ xD

deft wolf Aug 13, 2023, 2:49 PM

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No one will pay you $10 for a bot

peak drum Aug 13, 2023, 2:49 PM

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Try like 2$ tops

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KEKWSlide

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Well it difference for what type of bot it is

cobalt torrent Aug 13, 2023, 2:50 PM

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I'm Turkish so I don't know much so what are the prices here?

deft wolf Aug 13, 2023, 2:50 PM

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It's literally downloading files from github, typing npm install and you have a bot that has 500+ commands

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That's 10 minutes max

peak drum Aug 13, 2023, 2:50 PM

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Yeah but most of them are outdated

deft wolf Aug 13, 2023, 2:51 PM

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I'd still rather have a bot that is outdated than pay $10

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angeryBOYE

peak drum Aug 13, 2023, 2:51 PM

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Since you have the bot dev role I’m sure you can create one yourself KEKWDisco

cobalt torrent Aug 13, 2023, 2:51 PM

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chahaha so funny @deft wolf

peak drum Aug 13, 2023, 2:52 PM

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But for somebody who what’s a custom bot for their community with a lot of commands and functions 10$ isn’t that bad ig

deft wolf Aug 13, 2023, 2:52 PM

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Yea but you need host it somewhere

cobalt torrent Aug 13, 2023, 2:53 PM

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Maybe I'm selling a very good boat for $10, how do you know?

peak drum Aug 13, 2023, 2:53 PM

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There are a lot of free options and paid ones for like 0,25 cents xD

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I would buy a boat for $10 KEKWSlide

deft wolf Aug 13, 2023, 2:53 PM

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Holy fuck

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10$ for a boat?

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NOWAY

cobalt torrent Aug 13, 2023, 2:54 PM

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@peak drum you devepoler

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??

peak drum Aug 13, 2023, 2:54 PM

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Yea but you spelled bot wrong so now we make fun of you

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poggythumbsup

cobalt torrent Aug 13, 2023, 2:55 PM

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Are you selling Minecraft hosting or something or do you have a server?

peak drum Aug 13, 2023, 2:55 PM

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Yea I sell lots of hostings xD

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I can sell you a discord bot hosting for your special bots KEKWDisco

cobalt torrent Aug 13, 2023, 2:57 PM

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No I don't want to Xd

peak drum Aug 13, 2023, 2:57 PM

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I got a free option too xD

lyric mountain Aug 13, 2023, 2:57 PM

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UwU is this advertising

cobalt torrent Aug 13, 2023, 2:58 PM

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peak drum I got a free option too xD

i have my own dedicated hosting bro

cobalt torrent Aug 13, 2023, 2:58 PM

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lyric mountain UwU is this advertising

no

peak drum Aug 13, 2023, 2:58 PM

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Lol KEKW

cobalt torrent Aug 13, 2023, 2:58 PM

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angeryBOYE

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polent

peak drum Aug 13, 2023, 2:59 PM

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KEKBlem

cobalt torrent Aug 13, 2023, 2:59 PM

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sosiee

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me bots ad declinde

quartz kindle Aug 13, 2023, 3:00 PM

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godzilla had a stroke trying to read that

peak drum Aug 13, 2023, 3:00 PM

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OMEGAKEKW kekwclap

cobalt torrent Aug 13, 2023, 3:01 PM

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m@L

quartz kindle Aug 13, 2023, 3:01 PM

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lmao wat

lyric mountain Aug 13, 2023, 3:02 PM

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Smh my head

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Time to go back to topic

cobalt torrent Aug 13, 2023, 3:02 PM

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Toic?

lyric mountain Aug 13, 2023, 3:03 PM

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No, development

earnest phoenix Aug 13, 2023, 3:04 PM

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quartz kindle godzilla had a stroke trying to read that

and fucking died

peak drum Aug 13, 2023, 3:05 PM

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KEKWSlide

rustic nova Aug 13, 2023, 3:06 PM

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@cobalt torrent keep it sfw

cobalt torrent Aug 13, 2023, 3:08 PM

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I don't know what sfw is dude I don't know much

marsh lark Aug 13, 2023, 3:11 PM

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safe for work

lyric mountain Aug 13, 2023, 3:12 PM

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Aka common sense

sage bobcat Aug 13, 2023, 3:16 PM

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quartz kindle Aug 13, 2023, 3:19 PM

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make a football/sports manager game

lyric mountain Aug 13, 2023, 5:26 PM

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sage bobcat One message removed from a suspended account.

like bio inc lmao

sage bobcat Aug 13, 2023, 5:28 PM

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lyric mountain like bio inc lmao

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hallow lotus Aug 13, 2023, 5:45 PM

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help me

peak drum Aug 13, 2023, 5:46 PM

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If somebody is going to help you they need a bit more context

hallow lotus Aug 13, 2023, 5:47 PM

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i want to show it here on our website

peak drum Aug 13, 2023, 5:49 PM

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Make sure your website allows iframes and you’ve correctly set the property’s of the iframe

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Like the domain

hallow lotus Aug 13, 2023, 5:50 PM

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i did it all right, but it just doesn't happen

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will you help me?

frosty gale Aug 13, 2023, 6:36 PM

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sage bobcat One message removed from a suspended account.

it kinda sounds simple in theory but in practice its complicated

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a lot of probabilities and events

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and stuff you can upgrade

lyric mountain Aug 13, 2023, 6:45 PM

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hallow lotus i did it all right, but it just doesn't happen

press F12

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see on the console why it didn't load

warm surge Aug 13, 2023, 6:47 PM

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lyric mountain press F12

Alt + F4*

frosty gale Aug 13, 2023, 6:53 PM

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i swear this is the first and only website i found that actually respects the browser "privacy opt out" header

peak drum Aug 13, 2023, 7:11 PM

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Lol

frosty gale Aug 13, 2023, 7:56 PM

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gdpr and other countries should make it law having to abide by the header

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it would also help solve the "mandatory cookie notice" annoying problem

wheat mesa Aug 13, 2023, 8:01 PM

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not like it would solve any issues tbh

hallow lotus Aug 13, 2023, 8:01 PM

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lyric mountain see on the console why it didn't load

what

wheat mesa Aug 13, 2023, 8:01 PM

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I feel like most companies would just ignore it

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Unless it's actually heavily enforced

deft wolf Aug 13, 2023, 8:06 PM

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hallow lotus what

lyric mountain Aug 13, 2023, 8:29 PM

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there it is

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oh, btw

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.tk domains are blocked in like 98% of the internet

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and u never actually get to own it

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freenom simply embeds your site in an iframe, and put a bunch of trackers in it

sage bobcat Aug 13, 2023, 8:38 PM

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frosty gale it kinda sounds simple in theory but in practice its complicated

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frosty gale Aug 13, 2023, 8:39 PM

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lyric mountain freenom simply embeds your site in an iframe, and put a bunch of trackers in it

don't think they used to do that

sage bobcat Aug 13, 2023, 8:39 PM

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frosty gale Aug 13, 2023, 8:39 PM

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I remember putting my freenom site on cloudflare

sage bobcat Aug 13, 2023, 8:40 PM

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frosty gale Aug 13, 2023, 8:40 PM

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but yeah basically all freenom free domains are blocked by a lot of services bc it can be abused so easily

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this is why we can't have nice things

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domains should be free or at least some of them

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for personal uses

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but there needs to be restrictions so a person doesn't just acquire a lot of domains and resells them

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and I just realised we've come full circle back to not having nice things

lyric mountain Aug 13, 2023, 8:54 PM

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frosty gale don't think they used to do that

see the structure the page

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basically, you never link domain -> server directly, like other providers

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the domain itself is borrowed to you, but the page is never directly linked to the domain

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also they reserve the right to reclaim the domain at any time

peak drum Aug 13, 2023, 9:20 PM

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Yea once you get an decent amount of traffic they will xD

sage bobcat Aug 13, 2023, 9:20 PM

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peak drum Aug 13, 2023, 9:21 PM

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Last time I wanted to get a free domain freenom didn’t even work xD

sage bobcat Aug 13, 2023, 9:54 PM

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lyric mountain Aug 13, 2023, 9:55 PM

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.site is $2

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I think

sage bobcat Aug 13, 2023, 9:55 PM

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frosty gale Aug 13, 2023, 10:01 PM

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since when does chromium make use of windows's efficiency mode

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i only really see windows programs using it only

sage bobcat Aug 13, 2023, 10:21 PM

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frosty gale since when does chromium make use of windows's efficiency mode

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frosty gale Aug 13, 2023, 10:30 PM

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thats actually a good thing

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w

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it marks certain processes as not requiring as much of a priority or timely execution which improves system speed and responsiveness

slim heart Aug 13, 2023, 10:43 PM

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frosty gale since when does chromium make use of windows's efficiency mode

chrome has done this for years

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frosty gale Aug 13, 2023, 10:43 PM

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thats the first time ive seen it

sharp geyser Aug 13, 2023, 11:07 PM

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Since when did you need a reconnect url to perform a gateway reconnect

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Thonk

sage bobcat Aug 13, 2023, 11:17 PM

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frosty gale thats actually a good thing

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wheat mesa Aug 13, 2023, 11:32 PM

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Imma be real I’ve never used brave but if the product is good who cares about the owner?

sage bobcat Aug 14, 2023, 12:39 AM

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quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 1:07 AM

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sharp geyser Since when did you need a reconnect url to perform a gateway reconnect

since like, 6 months?

radiant kraken Aug 14, 2023, 1:21 AM

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hate the guy, not the browser iara_yawn

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 1:27 AM

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brave is alright, but i like ungoogled chromium better

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its not as polished tho, some things dont work on it

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but it does feel lighter to use

radiant kraken Aug 14, 2023, 1:44 AM

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quartz kindle its not as polished tho, some things dont work on it

what about firefox

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i heard firefox is good

wheat mesa Aug 14, 2023, 1:47 AM

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I use firefox

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It's pretty nice

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It's not exactly light on resources if that's what you're looking for, but it has a good feel to it

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 1:53 AM

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quartz kindle since like, 6 months?

really

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dang

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trollface

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 4:49 AM

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@quartz kindle hey buddy :)

radiant kraken Aug 14, 2023, 5:02 AM

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hey buddy (:

earnest phoenix Aug 14, 2023, 8:40 AM

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sage bobcat One message removed from a suspended account.

8$ a year i found for web

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 9:34 AM

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radiant kraken what about firefox

i use it as a secondary browser, its good but slow and memory hungry xd

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v8 >>> spidermonkey, sad but facts

kind lily Aug 14, 2023, 9:52 AM

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th I do ,_,

frosty gale Aug 14, 2023, 9:53 AM

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spidermonkey is such a goofy name

kind lily Aug 14, 2023, 9:53 AM

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kind lily

I didnt advertise at all can someone help

deft wolf Aug 14, 2023, 9:55 AM

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No one will help you with this, you have to wait until everything calms down

spark flint Aug 14, 2023, 10:28 AM

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peak drum Last time I wanted to get a free domain freenom didn’t even work xD

yes it got shut down

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https://tld-list.com/

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cheapest tlds

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spaceship </3

peak drum Aug 14, 2023, 10:30 AM

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Wtf I paid like 3 euros for a .xyz domain xD

spark flint Aug 14, 2023, 10:30 AM

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lol

marsh lark Aug 14, 2023, 10:42 AM

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Arent their renewals a bit more expensive

eternal osprey Aug 14, 2023, 10:43 AM

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 gibsonChurch() {
    let randomIndex = Math.floor(Math.random() * 2);
    if (randomIndex === 0) {
      return "../.././src/IMG_4744.MOV";
    }
    return "../.././src/IMG_4745.MOV";
  }```
I am trying to access the src from a file in the  listings folder

Schermafbeelding_2023-08-14_om_12.42.46.png

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it returns me undefined as the path is wrong?
I was thinking like this;

../ -> escapes from listings to commands.
../ -> escapes from commands to root.
./src -> from root to src.

marsh lark Aug 14, 2023, 10:44 AM

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You don't need the ./ so just ../../src/file.mov

eternal osprey Aug 14, 2023, 10:45 AM

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but would that be the issue?

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I found that ./ and none just returns the same result.

marsh lark Aug 14, 2023, 10:46 AM

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Well then how are you getting the file

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require()? fs.readFileSync()?

eternal osprey Aug 14, 2023, 10:46 AM

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 const attachment = new AttachmentBuilder(path, {
      name: "church-of-gibson.MOV",
    });```

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where path = "../../src/IMG_4744.MOV"

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still errors

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am i doing sometwhing wrong

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 11:22 AM

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eternal osprey ```js const attachment = new AttachmentBuilder(path, { name: "church-of-g...

nodejs treats file paths differently when used by require and by fs

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if attachmentbuilder uses fs to read the file, it might be interpreting the file path wrong

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or trying to use it from its node_modules location and not your file's location

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so you might need to be more specific and provide an absolute path instead of a relative one

digital swan Aug 14, 2023, 1:19 PM

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anyone know how i can fix this issue? google just doesnt seem to want to index my pages

marsh lark Aug 14, 2023, 1:25 PM

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digital swan anyone know how i can fix this issue? google just doesnt seem to want to index m...

Click on see details

digital swan Aug 14, 2023, 1:25 PM

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that just shows the list of pages

marsh lark Aug 14, 2023, 1:26 PM

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What does learn more point to? Or is it just a generic help page

digital swan Aug 14, 2023, 1:27 PM

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yeah exactly that

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https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/7440203#discovered__unclear_status

Page Indexing report - Search Console Help

See which pages Google can find and index on your site, and learn about any indexing problems encountered.
Open Page Indexing report

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marsh lark Aug 14, 2023, 1:29 PM

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Yeah so I would wait a few days/weeks

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Yeah I think there's no request indexing button on yours so you can't re-request that

digital swan Aug 14, 2023, 1:30 PM

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i can request indexing on specific pages

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but theres over 500

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marsh lark Aug 14, 2023, 1:32 PM

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If your site is correctly linked (i.e. all your pages link to each other) then as long as you re-request indexing on the root page it should appear (slowly, but you shouldn't have to request indexing on 500 pages either)

digital swan Aug 14, 2023, 1:33 PM

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i had to make a sitemap for google to discover the pages

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i can try reducing the amount of pages to see if that helps but i doubt it would

marsh lark Aug 14, 2023, 1:36 PM

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Sitemap works too

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:28 PM

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You dont need to await an async function if you don't care about the using the return value?

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just checking to make sure im remembering correctly

marsh lark Aug 14, 2023, 3:29 PM

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sharp geyser You dont need to await an async function if you don't care about the using the r...

Not exactly. Awaiting simply means "don't execute further code until this line completes", whether you want to get the value or not doesn't affect if the code blocks

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:30 PM

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well yes I know that

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let me rephrase my question then

marsh lark Aug 14, 2023, 3:31 PM

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Oh I see what you're asking

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Yes it'll still run

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:31 PM

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good enough for me then

marsh lark Aug 14, 2023, 3:31 PM

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But if it rejects you can't handle it unless you use .catch()

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:33 PM

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yep

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 3:35 PM

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hey so,i am currently trying to make a ticket system on my bot(discord.js v13)
i want to first do the channel setup command which would setup the channel and then do send panel command

but i am having some issues with db

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    if(!channel.isText) return message.reply(`Please mention a text channel`);
    if(!channel) return message.reply(`Please mention a valid channel`);
    db.set(`ticketPanel_${message.guild.id}_${channel.id}`)
    message.reply(`Successfully setted <#${channel.id}> as ticket ```

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this is how i registered the channel id of the channel setupped of a server

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i am trying to access it in send panel command like this

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 let channel = db.get(`ticketPanel_${message.guild.id}`)```

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can someone tell what am i doing wrong

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:39 PM

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Not without you first telling us what is happening that you aren't expecting, or showing us any errors you're getting

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 3:39 PM

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north cairn ```js let channel = db.get(`ticketPanel_${message.guild.id}`)```

hm so when i am trying to acess this,it just says undefined

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:40 PM

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you're forgetting the channel.id

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 3:40 PM

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well channel cant be defined in send panel command

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:40 PM

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then dont save it using both the guild and channel id?

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 3:40 PM

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i said that i want that user to setup the channel once

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then i register it in database

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:41 PM

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okay but like

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 3:41 PM

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and send panel there

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:41 PM

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you are saving it as ticketPanel_guildid_channelid

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without channelid its going to return undefined

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 3:41 PM

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if(!channel) {
 
      const nochannelembed =  new MessageEmbed()
        .setTitle("Error")
        .setDescription("There is no channel setuped")
      .setFooter("Run the \ `channel` \ command to set a channel!")
      .setTimestamp()
      .setColor("RED")
      message.reply({embeds: [nochannelembed]}) }
    else{
      const pe = new MessageEmbed()
      .setColor(`#303136`)
      .setTitle(`${message.guild.name}'s Ticket Panel`)
      .setThumbnail(client.user.displayAvatarURL({dynamic: true}))
      .setTimestamp()
      .setColor("BLUE") 
      .setFooter("Making Unnecessary Tickets Is Against Our Terms Of Service!")
        message.reply(`Successfully sended panel to <#${channel.id}>`).then(async () => {
     const tsc = await client.channels.cache.get(channel)
          tsc.send(`test msg`)```

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:41 PM

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so figure out a way to not need the channelid or find a way to get thechannelid

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 3:41 PM

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north cairn ```js let channel = message.mentions.channels.first() if(!channel.isText...

is that quick.db?

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 3:41 PM

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quartz kindle is that quick.db?

it is

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 3:42 PM

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sharp geyser so figure out a way to not need the channelid or find a way to get thechannelid

thats the thing idk bro

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 3:42 PM

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doesnt quick.db automatically nest objects for you if you use a dot as a separator?

marsh lark Aug 14, 2023, 3:42 PM

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yes

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 3:42 PM

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so for example

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 3:42 PM

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@earnest phoenix come here

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 3:42 PM

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ticketPanel_${message.guild.id}_${channel.id} this will not work if you use ticketPanel_${message.guild.id}

earnest phoenix Aug 14, 2023, 3:43 PM

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Yes?

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 3:43 PM

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but if you use dots, it should get you an object with all its children

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 3:43 PM

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earnest phoenix Yes?

they explaning so listen

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 3:43 PM

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like this
ticketPanel.${message.guild.id}.${channel.id} and ticketPanel.${message.guild.id}

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 3:43 PM

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quartz kindle but if you use dots, it should get you an object with all its children

hmmmmmm

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lemme try

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 3:43 PM

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idk if quick.db still does that

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but i remember it did that at some point

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 3:43 PM

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it should ig

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:43 PM

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quick.db hardly changes

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 3:43 PM

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sharp geyser quick.db hardly changes

💀

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:44 PM

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I honestly don't know why people even bother using it over conventional methods

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shrug

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 3:44 PM

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well, its quick and easy for beginners

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:44 PM

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fair enough

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but so is mongodb apparently trollface

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 3:44 PM

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even tho its not efficient, most projects where its used are small, so its fine

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 3:44 PM

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oh cmon it isn't

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mongo is way hard than quick db

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:45 PM

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quartz kindle even tho its not efficient, most projects where its used are small, so its fine

Also I started my discord lib again

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trollface

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 3:45 PM

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nice

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:45 PM

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Going horribly rn

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 3:45 PM

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xD

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:45 PM

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Honestly debating on just not even helping the end user mitigate gateway rate limits

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and leave it up to them

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😭

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 3:45 PM

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let channel = db.get(`ticketPanel.${message.guild.id}`)```
so this should work

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:46 PM

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north cairn ```js let channel = db.get(`ticketPanel.${message.guild.id}`)``` so this should ...

tryitandsee

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 3:46 PM

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gateway rate limits are easy tho, rest rate limits are the hard ones

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:46 PM

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I mean

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 3:46 PM

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north cairn ```js let channel = db.get(`ticketPanel.${message.guild.id}`)``` so this should ...

it will not give you a channel tho

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it will give you EVERYTHING that is inside that guild id

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:46 PM

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discord with its gateway/bot endpoint gives me all the data I need

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but I don't know what would be the best way to use it

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quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 3:47 PM

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you mean gateway command rate limts right? the ones that you send via websocket, like request guild members

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:47 PM

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This is what it gives

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 3:47 PM

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those are per-shard, so its easy to implement

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ah you mean the session start limit?

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:47 PM

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yea

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I wanna help them not accidentally login 2000 times ahem glitch.com shenanigans

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 3:48 PM

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session start limit is basically every 5 seconds you can send 1 IDENTIFY request, multiplied by max_concurrency

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:48 PM

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icic

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 3:49 PM

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it also needs to be divided into buckets

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:49 PM

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huh

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 3:49 PM

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moduled by max_concurrency

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:49 PM

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EYES

earnest phoenix Aug 14, 2023, 3:49 PM

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If i saved as this

db.set(`ticketPanel.${message.guild.id}.${channel.id}`)```

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 3:49 PM

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but basically, you will always have max_concurrency = 1 until you have like 150k guilds

earnest phoenix Aug 14, 2023, 3:49 PM

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It should work?

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:49 PM

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So uh, yea lets just not give any fucks like discord.js :)

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 3:49 PM

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then you suddenly get max_concurrency=16

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so when you get max_concurrency=16

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its basically like this

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shard id modulo 16 = 5 seconds cooldown

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for example, shard 1 and shard 2 can login at the same time

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but shard 1 and shart 17 cant

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because they share the same modulo id

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:50 PM

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icic

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 3:50 PM

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1 % 16 === 17 % 16

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so you can send 1 identify per 5 seconds per shard modulo id

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 3:51 PM

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earnest phoenix It should work?

no it only works in get ig

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:51 PM

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So would I just need to save a timestamp of their last identify attempt, and anytime a new attempt is made just compare it to the old timestamp

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or is it more complex than that

earnest phoenix Aug 14, 2023, 3:51 PM

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north cairn no it only works in get ig

Oh

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 3:51 PM

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pretty much yeah

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as long as you're aware of each shard's modulo id

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:51 PM

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I don't even know what that means

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😭

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 3:51 PM

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for example

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if you have 150+ shards

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and you have max_concurrency = 16

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shard 0 and shard 16 and shard 32 and shard 48... all have the same modulo id

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because shard_id % max_concurrency === same number

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0 % 16 = 0
16 % 16 = 0
32 % 16 = 0

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so those shard ids

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you can only login one of them every 5 seconds

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regardless of order

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:53 PM

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Okay so I would have to check the shard(s) that is trying to identify?

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 3:53 PM

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so login shard 0, wait 5 seconds, login shard 16, wait 5 seconds, login shard 32

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but you can also login shard 16 first, then wait 5 seconds, then login shard 0

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for example

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what matters is their modulo id

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:53 PM

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Doesn't matter the order

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Hm

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 3:54 PM

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now shard 1 for example

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1 % 16 = 1, not 0

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its a different modulo value

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:54 PM

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I can login shard 1 and 16 at the same time then no?

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 3:54 PM

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so it doesnt share the same limit as the first set of shards

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it can be done concurrently

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:54 PM

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I see

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 3:55 PM

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so if you have max_concurrency = 16

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you can login 16 shards at the same time

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as long as they are all in different modulos

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:55 PM

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I see

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Okay wait

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So this here is the identify payload that you would send to discord over the websocket

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If there is sharding, you would put the current shard's id there as well as the total number of shards the bot is going to use right?

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 3:57 PM

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ye

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:57 PM

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so each time a shard is spawned the id sent will be different

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 3:57 PM

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yup

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 3:57 PM

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Okay okay

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now let me figure out how to formulate my next question

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okay off topic real quick

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so all shards wouldn't receive the same events?

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 4:01 PM

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each shard only receives events pertaining to the guilds assigned to it

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 4:01 PM

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huh

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 4:01 PM

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except DMs, which are always sent to shard 0

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for example you have 3 shards, with 1k guilds each, total 3k guilds

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events about a guild that is assigned to shard 1, will only be received on shard 1

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never on other shards

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 4:02 PM

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well yea that makes sense

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 4:02 PM

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and if your bot receives a DM, it will always receive it on shard 0, never on other shards

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 4:02 PM

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I thought it meant that certain events wont be received because of the split connection

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 4:02 PM

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nah

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all events work normally

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 4:02 PM

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nvm then

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:p

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 4:02 PM

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just not sent to all shards

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only the relevant shard

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 4:03 PM

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Okay so then should I put shards into queues?

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Cause it seems to me that you want to connect the shards that have different modulo ids first and then connect the next batch but idk

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 4:04 PM

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basically the way i did it on tiny-discord is simple

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const bucket = Array(max_concurrency).fill(0);

// shard login
const shard_bucket = shard_id % max_concurrency;
const previous = bucket[shard_bucket];
const current = Date.now();
if(current - previous < 5000) {
  // wait and try again
} else {
  bucket[shard_bucket] = current;
  login()
}

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 4:10 PM

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Hmm

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So basically you just make an array with the max size of however many shards can be connected within 5s

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wait

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so you're really only storing the time it was connected?

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so the key is the shard connected, value is the time it was connected

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and you're substracting the current time minus the previous shard that was connected and seeing if it has been 5s before logging in

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 4:13 PM

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quartz kindle ```js const bucket = Array(max_concurrency).fill(0); // shard login const shard...

What exactly do you do in the case of if it the time hadn't passed, do you just wait the remainder of the time and say call the function again?

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as I assume i'd put this in a method of a class

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 4:15 PM

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sharp geyser What exactly do you do in the case of if it the time hadn't passed, do you just ...

yeah, call the function again in case some other shard already took it while it was waiting

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so its possible it will need to wait more than once

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 4:16 PM

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icic

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Also

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sorry took so long to respond to my "also" message

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async connect() {
        if (this.sockets > 0) {
            let num = 0;
            while (num < this.sockets) {
                const socket = new Socket(num);

                this.socketStore.set(num, socket);

                num++;
            }

            // once it breaks out of the loop do the bucket thing and connect shards as they are supposed to be
        }

        const socket = new Socket(0);
        await socket.connect();
    }

This is my current plan on connecting shards if they wanna do sharding

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this.sockets will be the number of shards they wanna spawn which will be set in the client options

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I am basically doing a while loop that will create all the shards needed until it reaches the max and then sets them in a socket store. if they don't supply a number of shards they wanna spawn it will default to just one and connect normally

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Do you think this is ideal?

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or should I just treat it as if they are going to spawn multiple shards anyway

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 4:25 PM

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its easier to always treat it like multiple shards, even if you only have 1

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so you dont need to maintain two sets of code for the same thing

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code for single and code for multiple

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 4:27 PM

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sharp geyser <:tryitandsee:1090612861178478703>

not working

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still says undefined

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 4:29 PM

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quartz kindle its easier to always treat it like multiple shards, even if you only have 1

    constructor() {
        super();

        this.sockets = this.client.options.sockets || 0;

        let num = 0;
        while (num < this.sockets) {
            const socket = new Socket(num);

            this.socketStore.set(num, socket);

            num++;
        }
    }

probably a bad idea right trollface

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https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/0b4e0a84935f4ba79fef90146e2f32b4 this is my current idea

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Is it efficient? hell no

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does it work? probably not

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 4:33 PM

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since you know the exact number of shards, its more appropriate to use a for loop

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while loop is more for something irregular or dynamic

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 4:33 PM

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I see

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honestly I haven't even used a programming language in a while

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so ye didn't know that

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ofc you can use a for loop my god im stupid

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 4:34 PM

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 let channel = db.get(`ticketPanel.${message.guild.id}`)```

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it still returning undefined

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can someone say any othe metods

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methods*

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 4:34 PM

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north cairn ```js let channel = db.get(`ticketPanel.${message.guild.id}`)```

then you need to store an object or something

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or use a more complex key

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 4:35 PM

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for (let id = 0; id < this.sockets; id++)
  this.socketStore.set(id, new Socket(id));

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ez :)

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 4:35 PM

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how many ticket channels do you have per guilds? only 1?

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 4:35 PM

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AH

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 4:35 PM

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how many other things do you have in a guild? only a ticket channel, or more things?

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 4:35 PM

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quartz kindle how many ticket channels do you have per guilds? only 1?

yes

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 4:35 PM

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quartz kindle how many other things do you have in a guild? only a ticket channel, or more thi...

that bot only permits ticket

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 4:35 PM

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then you can do something like ticketPanel.{guildID}.channel

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and use .set and .get with the same key

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 4:36 PM

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Okay I think its time to actually make the client

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and see if identifying even works

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trollface

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 4:36 PM

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i think that only works in get?!?

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 4:36 PM

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do you need to store multiple things in that channel id?

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or its only the id

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are there any things like timers, limits, etc

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 4:37 PM

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nah nah
only the server and the channel chosen

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 4:37 PM

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so just use .channel

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 4:37 PM

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bro channel isn't defined in send panel

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 4:38 PM

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// set
db.set(`ticketPanel.${message.guild.id}.channel`, message.channel.id);

// get
 let channel = db.get(`ticketPanel.${message.guild.id}.channel`);

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 4:38 PM

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lemme try hold up

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 4:38 PM

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honestly you dont even need the .channel if you dont store anything else

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you can just do this

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// set
db.set(`ticketPanel.${message.guild.id}`, message.channel.id);

// get
 let channel = db.get(`ticketPanel.${message.guild.id}`);

earnest phoenix Aug 14, 2023, 4:39 PM

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We dont store anything else

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 4:39 PM

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thats what we are doing

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and we are getting undefined

#

anyway lemme try again

earnest phoenix Aug 14, 2023, 4:39 PM

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quartz kindle ```js // set db.set(`ticketPanel.${message.guild.id}`, message.channel.id); // ...

Yeah

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 4:40 PM

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you were doing this js db.set(`ticketPanel.${message.guild.id}.${message.channel.id}`, ...); not this ```js
db.set(ticketPanel.${message.guild.id}, message.channel.id);

earnest phoenix Aug 14, 2023, 4:41 PM

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We tried js db.set(`ticketPanel_${message.guild.id}`, channel.id)

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 4:41 PM

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try again then

earnest phoenix Aug 14, 2023, 4:41 PM

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Ok

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 4:42 PM

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hm diff error

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so when we are doing get thing

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what are we actually deriving?

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 4:43 PM

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hmm?

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show code/error

earnest phoenix Aug 14, 2023, 4:43 PM

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Ah it shows

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 4:43 PM

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let channel = db.get(`ticketPanel.${message.guild.id}`);```

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tell what are we deriving from here

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only the server id??

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 4:43 PM

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you should be getting a channel id

earnest phoenix Aug 14, 2023, 4:43 PM

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Guild.id

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 4:43 PM

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yes

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but

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when i do

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channel.send("some msg")

earnest phoenix Aug 14, 2023, 4:44 PM

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We are getting undefined

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 4:44 PM

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it says its not function

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 4:44 PM

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because its a channel id, not a full channel object

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you need to get the channel object from djs

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client.channels.cache.get(id)

deft wolf Aug 14, 2023, 4:44 PM

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You need to fetch this channel

earnest phoenix Aug 14, 2023, 4:44 PM

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quartz kindle client.channels.cache.get(id)

Ik

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 4:44 PM

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ig i did it before,lemme try again

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there are two things here

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first this

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 const ugay = client.channels.cache.get(chl.id)```

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if we doing that ryt

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and second is that

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 4:47 PM

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north cairn ```js let channel = db.get(`ticketPanel.${message.guild.id}`);```

when we do channel.id ,we get undefined

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 4:48 PM

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if chl is what you get from the db, then chl itself is the id, there is no .id

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const ugay = client.channels.cache.get(chl)

earnest phoenix Aug 14, 2023, 4:49 PM

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Oh

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We getting
ch = object Promise

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 4:52 PM

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is quick.db async now?

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then you have to await all the db.get and db.set

earnest phoenix Aug 14, 2023, 4:53 PM

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quartz kindle is quick.db async now?

Yes

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Will remove async

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Yeah it worked ig

earnest phoenix Aug 14, 2023, 4:55 PM

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quartz kindle is quick.db async now?

Thank you soo muchhh!!!

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 4:55 PM

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👍

north cairn Aug 14, 2023, 4:55 PM

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thanks bro!

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it works!

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🙂

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any thanking system here?

deft wolf Aug 14, 2023, 4:57 PM

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I guess "thanks" is enough

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 5:06 PM

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@quartz kindle you think its worth doing this for every dispatch event

export declare interface Client {
    on(event: 'ready', listener: (client: Client) => void): this;
}

so that way each specific event is intellisensed to what the data will look like when listening to the event

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EYES

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I feel like I could probably do this more effectively by using generics but idk

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 5:11 PM

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sure, you can define types for every single event

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but you can also use the discord types library

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instead of doing everything yourself

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https://discord-api-types.dev/

discord-api-types documentation

discord-api-types - Imagine typings

discord-api-types is a simple Node/Deno module that brings up to date typings for Discord's API

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 5:12 PM

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quartz kindle sure, you can define types for every single event

export declare interface Client {
    on<K extends keyof IClientEvents>(event: K, listener: (...args: IClientEvents[K]) => void): this;
}

ez

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export interface IClientEvents {
    ready: [data: GatewayReadyDispatchData];
}

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rn only ready cause thats the only event im handling rn but shhh

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trollface

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 5:13 PM

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ye

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 5:13 PM

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God this is interesting

#

I am learning quite a bit about ts that I never knew

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So when sending intents to the gateway, discord expects it to be a number which is the sum of all the intents bitfields they wanna send right?

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So say they wanted the Guilds intent as well as GuildBans it would be 5 Guilds = 1, GuildBans = 4

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 5:28 PM

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ye

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 5:28 PM

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gotcha

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and is it faster to use reduce on an array to get the sum of the numbers in it or would it be faster to use standard for loop

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actually doesn't reduce use a loop internally

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wait wait wait, no way I have to emit events like this: this.socketManager.client.emit('debug', () => message);

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nvm

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I did a goof

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forgor to edit the emit override in my declare statement as I copy and pasted the on one

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KEKW

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 5:32 PM

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afaik array reduce is supposed to use a special reduction algorithm, but idk if js actually implements that

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most of the time for loops are faster

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 5:33 PM

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I see

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export function parseIntents(intents: Array<GatewayIntentBits>) {
    return intents.reduce((partialSum, a) => partialSum + a, 0);
}

this looked so clean tho 😔

neon leaf Aug 14, 2023, 5:33 PM

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I mean if it doesnt run very often does it matter?

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 5:34 PM

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Not really

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 5:34 PM

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just keep it

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it doesnt really matter

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 5:34 PM

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k

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 5:34 PM

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even in a hot code, the performance difference is usually negligible

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also

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its better to use the OR operator than a plus sign

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a plus sign will fuck it up if they have duplicate intents

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the OR operator wont

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 5:35 PM

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oh?

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How does || work here?

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 5:36 PM

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bitwise OR operator is a single pipe

#

partialSum | a

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 5:36 PM

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tf

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didn't know that was a thing

neon leaf Aug 14, 2023, 5:37 PM

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did you atleast know & was a thing

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 5:37 PM

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sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 5:37 PM

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I don't know much about the bitwise operators tbh

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never found myself in a situation that needed it, or at least one that I knew would be more efficient to use it

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KEKW

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 5:38 PM

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bitwise is awesome

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 5:38 PM

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I never really understood it

neon leaf Aug 14, 2023, 5:38 PM

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quartz kindle

what does ~ even do

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 5:38 PM

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took a hands off approach

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 5:38 PM

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quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 5:39 PM

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neon leaf what does ~ even do

inverts all bits

neon leaf Aug 14, 2023, 5:39 PM

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ah

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?

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doesnt the example say 10

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 5:39 PM

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lmao

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they fucked it up xD

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js uses signed integers for bitwise

neon leaf Aug 14, 2023, 5:40 PM

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help

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 5:40 PM

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and the NOT operator also flips the sign bit

lyric mountain Aug 14, 2023, 5:40 PM

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ah yes, -110 my favorite binary

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 5:40 PM

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so basically internally js uses 32 bit ints

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so 5 is actually

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00000000000000000000000000000101

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and ~5 becomes
10000000000000000000000000000010

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the first leftmost bit is the sign bit

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defines if the number is positive or negative

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but it could also be represented as
11111111111111111111111111111010

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idk which representation exacly it uses

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there are two different ways of dealing with signed bits, twos complement and signed

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up to the lang/compiler/cpu to decide

neon leaf Aug 14, 2023, 5:44 PM

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I pretty much only ever use & and |

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 5:44 PM

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yeah same

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actually, i also use << and >> a lot

neon leaf Aug 14, 2023, 5:44 PM

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& for checking bitfield permissions, | for creating them

neon leaf Aug 14, 2023, 5:44 PM

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quartz kindle actually, i also use << and >> a lot

for what 🤔

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 5:45 PM

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extracting subsets or binary

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for example you have an 8 bit number: 00000000, and you decide that you want to use 4 bits for one thing, and another 4 for a different thing

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const first = n >> 4;
const second = n & 31;

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and then lets say you want to update the value of first in n

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 5:47 PM

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this all makes no sense

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panicc

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 5:47 PM

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n = (newfirst << 4) | second

neon leaf Aug 14, 2023, 5:47 PM

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quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 5:48 PM

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lmao

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 5:48 PM

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sharp geyser this all makes no sense

think of all numbers as a sequence of bits

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and then decompose the number into sections

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for example the number 88, equals 01011000 in binary

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if you do 88 << somenumberhere, it will move those bits to the left

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for example 88 << 2 will move them all 2 places to the left, resulting in 0101100000

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 5:49 PM

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but how does 88 equal that number in binary

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 5:50 PM

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0 = 0
1 = 1
10 = 2
11 = 3
100 = 4
101 = 5
110 = 6
111 = 7
1000 = 8
.... until you reach 88

neon leaf Aug 14, 2023, 5:50 PM

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oooh, makes sense

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didnt get what they were used for before

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 5:50 PM

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quartz kindle 0 = 0 1 = 1 10 = 2 11 = 3 100 = 4 101 = 5 110 = 6 111 = 7 1000 = 8 .... until yo...

Okay what

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panicc

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 5:51 PM

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sharp geyser Okay what

you know how when you count numbers in decimal

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you go 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 5:51 PM

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yea

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 5:51 PM

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when you reach 10, you cannot represent it as a single digit anymore

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so you have to start using 2 digits

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10 11 12 13 14

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binary is the same, but you cant go up to 2

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everytime you reach 1 and beyond, you have to add another digit and start over

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 5:52 PM

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cause binary is just 0's and 1's no?

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 5:52 PM

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ye

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 5:52 PM

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I see

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 5:52 PM

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so you have 0, you can just write 0

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for 1, you can just write 1

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but for 2, you cant use 2

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so you add a new digit, and go back to 0

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 5:52 PM

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how does it jump from 11 to 100

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 5:52 PM

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it becomes 10

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because after 11, you have to add a new digit

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imagine this

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 5:53 PM

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would itn ot become 110 ?

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 5:53 PM

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like

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binary usually needs a fixed "size" to work

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lets say our number is always 8 bits in size

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00000000 = 0
00000001 = 1
00000010 = 2
00000011 = 3
00000100 = 4
00000101 = 5
00000110 = 6
00000111 = 7
00001000 = 8

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the left side zeroes are always there, to determine the fixed size of the number

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but you can omit them

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wait there was a perfect gif for this, let me find it

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 5:55 PM

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but why does the 1 disappear when going from 3 to 4 if we are adding numbers to the end

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 5:55 PM

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whydoes the 9 disappear when you reach 10?

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because it starts over again

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 5:56 PM

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I see

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I don't quite get it fully but I understand it better now

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 5:56 PM

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let m find that gif

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zELAfmp3fXY

YouTube

Mathmo14159

Binary Counter

Using a wooden binary counter to demonstrate the binary numbers from 0 to 63 (in base 10)

▶ Play video

rustic nova Aug 14, 2023, 5:58 PM

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This video contains content from UMG, who has blocked it from display on this website or application
Watch on YouTube

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 5:58 PM

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it works for me if i watch on youtube

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lmao

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 5:59 PM

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Okay that makes more sense but still confusing to get used to at first

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Ima just keep researching more about it until I understand it fully

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 5:59 PM

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ye

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you can also think about it as an array

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for example, 00000000 > [0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0]

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just that the values in the array can only ever be 0 or 1

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but you can still manipulate them individually

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just the way you use indexes is different

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for example the OR operator: | is literally, change the value at that specific index to 1

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 6:01 PM

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so say a number is 8 bits then the length of the array would be 8 right?

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 6:01 PM

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ye

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 6:01 PM

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can't a number also be more than just 8 bits

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 6:01 PM

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it can ye

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 6:01 PM

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how would that effect things

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 6:01 PM

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you always need to define the size of the number beforehand

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only bigints have no limit

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because they use a special algorithm for that

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otherwise in all languages, all numbers always have a fixed bit size

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in low level languages you can specify the size you want, for example int8, uint32, long, etc

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in js you cant

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js always uses double precision floating point for all its numbers, which is 64 bit in size

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except when doing bitwise because js is stupid

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when using a bitwise operator, js will secretly convert the number to int32

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which is 32 bits

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and convert it back to double precision before giving you the result

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 6:04 PM

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ic

quartz kindle Aug 14, 2023, 6:05 PM

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thats the reason why discord uses bigint permissions and shit

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because there are more than 32 permissions, so it wont fit into a 32 bit number

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doing bitwise on a js number bigger than 32 bits, will simply cut the excess off, causing data loss lol

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 6:08 PM

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ooo data loss dont we love that

rustic nova Aug 14, 2023, 6:12 PM

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same

sharp geyser Aug 14, 2023, 6:36 PM

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quartz kindle thats the reason why discord uses bigint permissions and shit

aha just as I expected

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it doesn't actually identify

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KEKW

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No errors at least!

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Now I just need to find out why

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Ic its not actually creating any shards

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OOO IM DUMB

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why the fuck did I set the default of the amount of sockets to spawn to 0

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no wonder it wasn't working